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Azmat January 28th, 2011, 09:47 PM Our army isn't destabilized.
Obama just said that they might stop the military aid and Mubarak was the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces. That means that we don't have one atm.
romano89 January 28th, 2011, 09:47 PM as an italian, i'd like to express my solidarity to all egyptian people that are fighting for freedom. it's very important that we all stand together against oppressors, and I hope italians will take example from your country
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 09:49 PM BRUSSELS If Mubarak were to actually move to Belgium, our country might not be the final destination of the Egyptian leader.
Depending on the model and claims against the regime of Tunisian President Ben Ali, protests against the Mubarak regime in Egypt continues.
Speculation about a start-a-leak instead of the Egyptian president is going well. Simple desire of activists or real possibility? Rumors are in any case around the web this morning. And among these, the information that the President put on the spot, would go to Zaventem.
This rumor was supported by postings on the social networking site Facebook. One of these messages, he even picked up by CNN, said that a plane from Luxor, was chartered. But CNN said he had no confirmation of information.
Another question persists, however. If Mubarak were to actually move to Belgium, our country might not be the final destination of the Egyptian leader. Other destinations are mentioned, including Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 09:49 PM Doha today :D
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xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 09:50 PM azmat that not even 1% of the army.
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 09:53 PM Egyptian army is the strongest in the middle east.
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM Doha today :D
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Very nice!!
Lots of extra tanks rolling in, watch it live now:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM wait let compare egypt with tunisia, france was supporting ben ali and so the us but then they stop while he planned to flee, also the army started shotting people, they didnt give up and the army supported them.
The Rev Paul Whicker January 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM Who cares what Hilary Clinton has to say?She is only saying what is in America's own interest.Its got nothing to do with them apart from the fact that they are the ones supplying the Egyptian police with the plastic bullets and guns.
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 09:55 PM Egyptian army is the strongest in the middle east.
I know all that but I mean we don't have a Supreme Commander right now.
ifif07 January 28th, 2011, 09:59 PM Where is Mubarak???
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 10:01 PM Unconfirmed news about preparations in Riyadh military airport to receive Mubarak (via @essamz) #Jan25
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 10:01 PM dude you dont understand how the army runs try and read, the army is about teams like you and your friends a team and the leader with in each have there view if one with the people and the other with the regime they might attack each other that how scary it is.
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 10:03 PM we love italians but your gov is stupied they said they support mubarak.
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 10:03 PM Al Jazeera: businessmen and powerful personalties are leaving Egypt on private jet ! (with gold? cash? ??) #egypt #cairo #jan25
Simfan34 January 28th, 2011, 10:03 PM Lots of extra tanks rolling in, watch it live now:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Are they cheering?
EDIT: OMG IN SUEZ THE RIOT POLICE HAVE JOINED THE PROTESTORS!!!
romano89 January 28th, 2011, 10:04 PM Nothing is wrong with Italy XD especially Roma <3 Roma Bella :D
oh, i'd like to say you're right...but italy and rome expecially are in a very bad situation...and people are starting to get tired of this, there's no money and we speak about our president only because of the sex scandals...
Swede January 28th, 2011, 10:05 PM Two very short videos I took at the Stockholm protest right outside the Egyptian embassy. This was at about 17:20 CET
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Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 10:06 PM Confirmed by Aljazeera Al Jazeera: businessmen and powerful personalties are leaving Egypt on private jet ! (with gold? cash? ??) #egypt #cairo #jan25
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 10:07 PM Thanks so much Swede! We appreciate your support a lot! :)
romano89 January 28th, 2011, 10:07 PM we love italians but your gov is stupied they said they support mubarak.
I completely agree with you, they obviously have some interests...
peppe.pa January 28th, 2011, 10:15 PM we love italians but your gov is stupied they said they support mubarak.
You' re right, but try to see the situation by our side.
What's happening in Egypt (as it was in Tunisia) is something never happened before. You're fighting for your rights and (I hope) to get a REAL demoracy. But what's going to happen after?
If Mubarak falls, the whole North Africa will. You're the most important country of the region! And then? Democracy? Islamic extremist regime?
You are a 80 million people country with a well equipped army! And who is going to lead you? You're not even sure!
That's what our governments are thinking now. It's the so-called "Realpolitik".
Of course everyone here, even our govt, hopes MHM to flee and a DEMOCRACY to establish. And Egypt to be free!
Good Luck my Egyptian friends! :)
Simfan34 January 28th, 2011, 10:15 PM Unconfirmed news about preparations in Riyadh military airport to receive Mubarak (via @essamz) #Jan25
I've heard this from an increasing amount of sources. Army has joined protestors at the Nat'l Museum!
MASRI January 28th, 2011, 10:17 PM The Army - in full force - in Cairo, Alexandria, and Suez.
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:18 PM Two very short videos I took at the Stockholm protest right outside the Egyptian embassy. This was at about 17:20 CET
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I had no idea that there were so many Egyptians in Sweden. I've only seen one Egyptian in Sweden in my entire life.
Thank you.
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 10:20 PM Something huge to be announced by our popular executive in a few!!!!
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 10:21 PM you learn new stuff everyday.
Italians I undestand but I'm just saying.
peppe.pa January 28th, 2011, 10:21 PM Something huge to be announced by our popular executive in a few!!!!
What??
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:22 PM Something huge to be announced by our popular executive in a few!!!!
Please explain.
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 10:23 PM ANNOUCEMENT OF MOBARAK GONE TO BE DONE IN A FEWWWWWWWW
NEW PRESIDENT CALLED
romano89 January 28th, 2011, 10:23 PM BTW I live in Roma Near Termini :D
nice! i live in ostia, by the sea :)
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:24 PM ANNOUCEMENT OF MOBARAK GONE TO BE DONE IN A FEWWWWWWWW
NEW PRESIDENT CALLED
LINK?!?
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 10:24 PM Egyptian ambassador in Saudi Arabia is now accompanied with Saudi security men at Jeddah's king Khalid airport: Confirmed
But according to this Newspaper:
NDP headquarters on fire, Mubarak to address nation
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/ndp-headquarters-fire-mubarak-address-nation
http://media.almasryalyoum.me/sites/default/files/imagecache/highslide_zoom/photo/2011/01/28/33/cairo_071_edit.jpg
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 10:25 PM LINK?!?
aljazeera report
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:27 PM aljazeera report
I didn't hear that, I've had it on for almost 7-9 hours now. :/
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:28 PM I see it now!
Mubarak yet to adress... etc.
Parliament bla bla bla
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 10:29 PM guys I beg leave your computer for a sec and pray (2d3ow) for your country!
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:30 PM You're right, I'm going to go pray.
MASRI January 28th, 2011, 10:32 PM Fathy Soror, speaker of the Egyptian People's Assembly will make an important announcment "soon" according to State TV, and Al Jazeera.
Montrealers January 28th, 2011, 10:35 PM Fathy Soror, speaker of the Egyptian People's Assembly will make an important announcment "soon" according to State TV, and Al Jazeera.
As i was saying
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:39 PM I'm really eager to hear what he's going to say.
AdnanK January 28th, 2011, 10:41 PM Incredibly brave of the egyptians to rise up against the regime. Even if Mubarak survives this his era is basically over. How old is he anyway? 84? Considering what happened in Tunisia the egyptians should be vigilant over member of the Mubarak regime staying in power.
And oh, I almost forgot, don´t trust the army.
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 10:42 PM going to cry and beg to kiss our legs for forgiveness and let him depart safely and we refuse :smug:
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:44 PM going to cry and beg to kiss our legs for forgiveness and let him depart safely and we refuse :smug:
After this week I want him dead I want to personally slice up his throat with a dirty dagger that I bought from the souk in Morocco.
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 10:44 PM Clashes continue in Tahrir amid growing chaos
http://media.almasryalyoum.me/sites/default/files/imagecache/highslide_zoom/photo/2011/01/28/12833/cairo_night.jpg
Despite apparent emptiness on the streets around Garden City and the Kasr al-Nil bridge leading to Zamalek, Cairo's downtown Tahrir Square remains volatile with clashes between security forces and protesters, and smoke bellowing from buildings in the vicinity.
Army tanks and armored troop transports moved toward Tahrir Square as unidentified individuals held long knives, chasing unarmed protesters, and clearing the way for the army. State security was observed as being unorganized as they haphazardly responded to oncoming protesters.
Clashes can be heard in the city's center as three fires were blazed, one of which is threateningly close to the Mogammaa, a key government building and downtown landmark, and another of which is close to the Ramses Hilton, an upscale Cairo hotel. White tear gas mixed with black smoke as fires raged. Security forces used rubber bullets against protesters attempting to enter the Mogammaa.
There were reports of clashes in Mounira and Giza districts.
The Corniche street along the Nile river was almost entirely void of vehicles except for burned out police vehicles scattered on the road. Occasional passing cars traveled in the wrong direction in the one way avenue or circled, as drivers seized the opportunity to revel in the absence of police presence.
Civilians were observed stealing a police car and driving it along the Corniche
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/clashes-continue-tahrir-amid-growing-chaos
Egypt hospitals report 860 injured as EgyptAir cancels flights
Egyptian hospitals in Cairo report that 860 people have been injured during Friday's protests in Cairo, as reported by the BBC.
In other news, Egypt's national airlines Egyptair announced the suspension of outbound flights from Egypt in reaction to curfews in force since 6PM.
In wide defiance of the curfew, however, protests continue as people fill the streets in what some observers describe as a carnival atmosphere.
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/egypt-hospitals-report-860-injured-egyptair-cancels-flights
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:47 PM They don't trust them, they're just relieved that they're not shooting their asses.
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 10:51 PM 3xWiBCIxjIk&feature=player_embedded
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 10:54 PM soror speach ended and was waste of time.
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 10:57 PM ^^ what did he say!
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Azmat January 28th, 2011, 10:59 PM soror speach ended and was waste of time.
I missed it what did he say?
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 11:03 PM the guy begged let stop and not let the media talk bad about us also he said I want to clarifiy something the ndp is only 5% of egyptians we didnt go down the street. Before they said ndp have 3mill people.
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 11:04 PM Um, Fathi Sorour has not spoken yet as you claim xAbdoo.
He's about to speak soon, Al Jazeera will broadcast it soon:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 11:06 PM the guy begged let stop and not let the media talk bad about us also he said I want to clarifiy something the ndp is only 5% of egyptians we didnt go down the street. Before they said ndp have 3mill people.
Al Jazeera says that he hasn't spoken yet. :S
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 11:07 PM dude if you open the esc its still on the news. Maybe that not the speech he was talking about but he said that just mins ago.
josemi January 28th, 2011, 11:10 PM ThvBJMzmSZI
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:11 PM Mubarak will speak soon: AlJazeera
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:14 PM مبارك: فهمتكم ايييه ... فهمت الجميييييع
:lol::ohno:
CologneOujda January 28th, 2011, 11:15 PM مبارك: فهمتكم ايييه ... فهمت الجميييييع
:lol::lol::lol:
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:16 PM HE IS ON NOW !!
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 11:17 PM That bitch is talking now!!!!!!!
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 11:17 PM MUBARAK IS SPEAKING!
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 11:17 PM mhm on tv now!
Alex Roney January 28th, 2011, 11:19 PM Listening to the Mubarak speech, he is such an idiot. He sounds like a dictator in need of overthrow. He's been in power for 30 years!
MASRI January 28th, 2011, 11:20 PM He is obviously not stepping down.
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:20 PM WTF is he on about ?? BLAH BLAH BLAH WE KNOW ALL THAT ALREADY !!
CologneOujda January 28th, 2011, 11:21 PM His Speech is Useless, nothing New
مبارك مازال مافهمش ههههههههههههههههه
Same thing what i was thinking.
3ad faq men n3ass. majayeb khbar.
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 11:21 PM Fuck is he talking about? Just resign already, my heart can't take anymore!
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:22 PM واضح ان مبارك لم ينم منذ ال 24 من يناير الى يومنا هذا
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no he just looks like that...
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 11:22 PM He's just saying a bunch of bullshit basically. Rambling about absolutely nothing.
Nothing significant at all. Apart from the fact that it looks like he won't be stepping up down anytime soon.
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 11:23 PM he said I will staying power and wont go.
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:23 PM Democracy blah blah blah freedom blah blah blah I feel you blah blah blah economy blah blah blah health blah blah blah education blah blah blah employment blah blah blah nation blah blah blah
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 11:24 PM Democracy blah blah blah freedom blah blah blah I feel you blah blah blah economy blah blah blah health blah blah blah education blah blah blah employment blah blah blah nation blah blah blah
This.
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:24 PM Nop he looks tired
Natural look :lol:
DaZed and DiZzy January 28th, 2011, 11:25 PM I think he is looking for a nother "sadat"
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:26 PM Okay as a NON-EGYPTIAN I have had enough of him numerous times !! People should start saying death to Mubarak instead of calling him to step down.
CologneOujda January 28th, 2011, 11:26 PM WTF? What was he smoking all day?
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:27 PM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:27 PM New government ?!
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 11:28 PM gov resign.
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 11:28 PM :eek2:
HE IS ELECTING A NEW GOVERNMENT! CURRENT GOVERNMENT IS STEPPING DOWN!
STILL NOT ENOUGH, MUBARAK STILL HAS TO GO, AND DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS NEED TO BE RESCHEDULED!
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:28 PM Is that really good enough though ???
CologneOujda January 28th, 2011, 11:28 PM Egyptian Chicha With The Moroccan Hachich :lol:
No Moroccan Hashish makes you think straight. This guy has lost all his brain sells.
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 11:29 PM FUCK NO, AFTER ALL THIS I'M NOT GOING TO SETTLE WITH THIS FUCKING CRAP!
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:29 PM No Moroccan Hashish makes you think straight. This guy has lost all his brain sells.
Must be Afghani then ;)
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:30 PM FUCK NO, AFTER ALL THIS I'M NOT GOING TO SETTLE WITH THIS FUCKING CRAP!
+1
One more step is needed, A NEW PRESIDENT.
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 11:32 PM dude new gov dosent mean new parliament.
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:32 PM The symbol of the ruling regime must go
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 11:35 PM :eek2:
HE IS ELECTING A NEW GOVERNMENT! CURRENT GOVERNMENT IS STEPPING DOWN!
STILL NOT ENOUGH, MUBARAK STILL HAS TO GO, AND DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS NEED TO BE RESCHEDULED!
What he basically said "Not my fault, so I'm staying, but I'm choosing a whole new government tomorrow".
Egyptians are still not satisfied, and we're all still going to keep on fighting! This is definitely not good enough!
:doh:
costa January 28th, 2011, 11:35 PM What are the chances, if Mubarak goes, to Egypt get a islamic government?
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:38 PM Maybe he delayed his migration to Jeddah because he didnt find a suitable accommodation yet, lets wait till tomorrow :)
Alrayyan January 28th, 2011, 11:40 PM r.n.n | شبكة رصد المصريون يرفضون استقالة الحكومة ثمنا للدماء الشهداء .... و سيكملون المسيرة
costa January 28th, 2011, 11:42 PM Islamic or Not Islamic, They have the right to choose their President in a democratic Process :ohno:
Yes, they have, but remember that choice will be watched very closely from the other side of Mediterranean and Atlantic.
Same for Tunisia.
costa January 28th, 2011, 11:48 PM I know it doesn't, but Mubarak and Ben Ali are 100x times better for western interests than islamics governments on their places.
Azmat January 28th, 2011, 11:49 PM I know it doesn't, but Mubarak and Ben Ali are 100x times better for western interests than islamics governments on their places.
And why should we care about the West? The people will choose what they want not what the West wants.
xAbd0o January 28th, 2011, 11:52 PM We dont care about the west nor usa, we care about ourselves first. Stop for a sec dont you think that you are extremly selfish and paranoid?
DaZed and DiZzy January 28th, 2011, 11:53 PM the western governments need pets
it will be nice to see a pull push relationship instead of a one way relationship
costa January 28th, 2011, 11:53 PM And why should we care about the West? The people will choose what they want not what the West wants.
I'm not speaking particulary about Egypt, but more about Maghreb. Radical islamics regimes in this part of the world, could easily/certainly finish in a World war.
Then you would care about that. ;)
UAE_isthebest January 28th, 2011, 11:54 PM WOOOW!.. Mubarak said a lot of BULLCRAP! Well one thing we know... The Egyptians won't stop till he leaves or dies!! Yalla Ya Masry people!
egypt69 January 28th, 2011, 11:58 PM http://i.imgur.com/57qRu.jpg
Simfan34 January 29th, 2011, 12:24 AM guys I beg leave your computer for a sec and pray (2d3ow) for your country!
I have prayed for Egypt.
Simfan34 January 29th, 2011, 12:25 AM http://www.aminarts.com/29_JAN_2011%20copy.jpg
UAE_isthebest January 29th, 2011, 01:01 AM Same bullshit... Not Obama not Mubarak... Not one president is caring about the poor, dead, wounded, abuses Egyptians... F*ck them all.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 01:03 AM if you guys have a channel called al mostakela watch it now egyptians talking live from egypt and someone just confirmed protest are still on ismailya and people are realy angry by the speech.
Men el 2a5er keda ya mubarak lem 3zalek we bara man3'er matrod ana zehe2t we 2reft.
DaZed and DiZzy January 29th, 2011, 01:04 AM Obama warned mubarek but mubarek won't listen
americas position was bring in a new face
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 01:10 AM Collection of Pics of this historic day:
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Then the police were defeated.
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MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 01:15 AM if you guys have a channel called al mostakela watch it now egyptians talking live from egypt and someone just confirmed protest are still on ismailya and people are realy angry by the speech.
Men el 2a5er keda ya mubarak lem 3zalek we bara man3'er matrod ana zehe2t we 2reft.
The government is not the problem , we had how many governments during Mubarak's rule , nothing was done . Mubark=ak is the problem , nothing is done unless he orders it .
The speech , in my opinion , will anger people more , he would have better shut up .
and the proposals in the speech leads me to say only one thing : Mubarak , with all respects , enta ragel remmah .
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 01:23 AM I have that feeling that if mubarak is infront of me I'll ... Arghhhh ... Just bring him in front of me and enjoy watching his skin pealed of and meat riped out.
DaZed and DiZzy January 29th, 2011, 01:35 AM just watch for any suspicious activity in the central bank ;)
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 01:55 AM http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs886.ash1/179459_105295079547610_103622369714881_29033_7999756_n.jpg
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 02:08 AM Protesters return to Cairo square after speech
Protesters streamed back into Cairo's central Tahrir square in their hundreds in the early hours of Saturday after President Hosni Mubarak announced he was sacking Egypt's government, despite a heavy military presence.
Protesters who had earlier been forced into nearby side streets by the military could be heard chanting "People want to change the regime" immediately after Mubarak's broadcast to the nation finished, a Reuters witness said.
She said a small fire had been set at the Mogama building, housing several government offices in the square, which was shrouded by plumes of smoke and teargas.
Shortly before Mubarak's speech was broadcast, it appeared the army had retaken control of the square, from where thousands of demonstrators had tried to surge toward parliament before being blocked by riot police firing teargas and rubber bullets.
The army sent some 20 military vehicles in to blanket the area.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/29/us-egypt-square-idUSTRE70R8J820110129?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter
Simfan34 January 29th, 2011, 02:20 AM Protesters return to Cairo square after speech
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/29/us-egypt-square-idUSTRE70R8J820110129?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter
:applause: :applause:
What's this with the plane?
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 02:21 AM Al Jazeera reports that it's getting neutral but some still on the streets.
the fact Egypt is disconnected now make it every hard to communicate with them and they communicate with each others.
I hope just like today after Jumm'a pray tomorrow after Saturday church is it Sunday?
anyway
g4SVNoWWo08
listen to the lyrics.
Azmat January 29th, 2011, 02:21 AM Is the army trying to disperse the protests a or are they just standing by?
Vucko January 29th, 2011, 02:22 AM Bravo Egyptians!!! Take down that dictator and his corrupt goverment!
Freedom is a human right for everybody!
By the way,my father served in Gaza in 1960 in the UN emergency force,he was from Yugoslavia. He told me countless times how the Egyptian people made a good impression on him,and that they are so goodhearted,modest and nice like no other people he has met in his whole life!
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 02:26 AM ^^ thank you :hug:
and azmat nothing is clear, there numbers are insignificant anyway.
Vucko January 29th, 2011, 02:41 AM I know that all media reporting is propaganda,i was mostly angered when i saw russia today calling this a revolution that was made by the CIA ,and that is a lie.
I am watching al jazeera,do you suggest any other station which shows the protests in the more objective way?
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 02:48 AM at this very moment I personally don't recommend believing anything that's not live TV! even thought they might just write live and it's not so I really would wait until the internet to be unblocked that way we know the stuff from right of the heart of the streets.
but other stuff like The guardian isn't bad at all, check my signature for details.
Vucko January 29th, 2011, 02:53 AM Thank you,i will follow your advice.
So,when/if mubarak goes,the main party in the new goverment will be the muslim brotherhood if I am not mistaken?
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 02:57 AM no problem ;)
no, the Muslim brotherhood said that they don't want to lead they only want to be part of this, so they're not interested.
The ruling parties I'd imagine Al Wafd and Al Gad to make it and possibly Ayman nour, el baradei maybe amr mouse other choices we have too as presidents.
as you can see the choices are varied and alot but they must go first then we can talk about who should get it.
If you're talking about the new gov mubrak is talking about it's just he's going to kick one or two ministers and put new once from the NDP that if he actually did what he say.
and those ministers seems to be that they already fled and he's covering up by this.
manrush January 29th, 2011, 03:04 AM I know that all media reporting is propaganda,i was mostly angered when i saw russia today calling this a revolution that was made by the CIA ,and that is a lie.
I am watching al jazeera,do you suggest any other station which shows the protests in the more objective way?
I thought RT was being criticised for not reporting on the Islamic Brotherhood.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA is meddling to make sure that the Mubarak regime stays in power. Such as placing paid thugs within the crowds to make the demostrators out to be violent hoodlums.
The other politicial parties are either social liberal or democratic socialist.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 03:30 AM Protest in London Friday 28th
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Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 04:08 AM I'm back guys, did i miss something?
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 04:31 AM CNN reports: Mubarak missing. #Jan25 #Egypt
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 04:33 AM Great news: Al Jazeera "Thousands of Egyptians form human-chain around Egypt Museum to protect it from looting" #Jan25
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 04:35 AM Unlike Ben Ali, Mubarak said today I didn't understand you, can you say it again. Tomorrow we'll just have 2 repeat everything #Jan25 #egypt
mwinyi January 29th, 2011, 04:39 AM Al Jazeera English: Live Stream
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
the best of them all
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 04:43 AM Dude i only see asians lol...
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 04:55 AM edit:Ok never mind false alarm.
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 05:03 AM Hosny Mobarak in my own opinion left Egypt, heavy measure in airport were taken 6 hour before the proof is here: why did he pre-record the conference?
ifif07 January 29th, 2011, 05:39 AM I also find it surprsing that his speach was not live, that it took him so long to react, that he only talked about a change of gove nothing else. Does nt he see whats happening? Maybe his internet is blocked as well so he cant see whats going on
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 06:32 AM Dawn is breaking in Cairo, 7:30 am...NDP Headquarters is STILL ablaze:
Live footage: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Ras Siyan January 29th, 2011, 08:18 AM Mubarak had nothing new to say! Egyptians, don't let them fool ya! He gotta go!! Continue the protests!!!
I prayed for you guys, keep faith and keep fighting! Allah is on the side of justice, not oppression!
maasai1 January 29th, 2011, 09:17 AM I admire the 'keyboard' warriors of this revolution. You have contributed immensely to this struggle. History will not forget you. Let all pray for a better tommorow.
Alrayyan January 29th, 2011, 09:28 AM As far as i Know this is not over yet ! there are still people in the streets at this time protesting around Egypt (its 10:30AM in Egypt...)
the_egyptian January 29th, 2011, 09:36 AM Friday was a looooooooong day, really historic.
News for now :
1-Big protests right now in Cairo and Alexandria, demanding MHM going away. (Saturday 29)
2-Army is controlling the main strategic locations in governates. Not stopping protests.
3-MHM got rid of the government. Rashid Mohammad Rashid (you know him) was called by MHM from Davos, this implies that he is going to be the next PM. We are waiting for the next gov being declared today.
4-Chaos was the title of Friday's night. Stealing and vandalism to private ownership was very popular. Sad part of this wonderful move by Egyptians.
5-You seem to miss this. Al Wafd head (Sayyed Al-Badawi) spoke yesterday demanding a transitional gov and a new parliament. The biggest surprise was literally urging MHM to resign on live TV !!
6-NDP headquarters, Alexandria government building (a huge building), Al-Montaza Police station, Police Stations of Azbakiya, 7elwan, 3ain shams, Suez, and many other gov building was burnt.
7-National TV denies Baradie being held.
8-Unlike all other countries, Egyptians respect and love the army, so people are happy about the army in the streets of Cairo. (Cars of the army has yasqout Mubarak written on them)
9-All rumours about MHM leaving the country are not right (:lol: security at Saudi Airport, Ezz (my biggest enemy) leaving the country)
10-Ezz companies were not vandalized. What happened was intruders getting into NDP building before burning it and getting some documents about Ezz companies.
11-Mobile service partially back in Egypt.
The main demand of Saturday protests is MHM going away, Although the new gov calmed people a tiny bit. THIS IS HISTORY !!!!
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:02 PM BREAKING: 30 members of the police were trying to loot the National Museum, were stopped by the army via AlJazeera @25Egypt #jan25 #Egypt
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:03 PM elbaradei on al-jazeera calls for new constitution #egypt #jan25
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10.42am:30 bodies were taken 2 El Damardash hospital in central Cairo between 1pm& 11pm yesterday, a hospital source told Reuters #jan25
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Live ammunition has been used as protesters clash with police in Alexandria. Reuters #jan25 #egypt #egipto
ifif07 January 29th, 2011, 12:14 PM Rumours has it that Mubarak will appoint Rashid Mohamed Rashid as PM
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:23 PM Salt-miners in #Suez declare open protest until #Mubarak steps down #jan25
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:24 PM 50 thousand protesters are downtown Cairo are chanting: People Want Regime Change #egypt #cairo #jan25
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:25 PM Egypt latest: I'm hearing rumours the military could take over tonight. #jan25 #c4news
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:27 PM I'm reading Arabic blogs: speculation that Egypt's military chief of staff Lt. Gen. Sami Hafez Anan may assume power intermittently. #Jan25
Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:30 PM Aljazeera : 50 thousand protester in Tahreer Square downtown Cairo #Egypt #Cairo #jan25 #jan28
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Montrealers January 29th, 2011, 12:31 PM New curfew in #egypt from 4pm - 8am. Which ofcourse no one abides by #jan25
Mister79 January 29th, 2011, 12:35 PM According to a source, the Egyptian army has commited a silence coup. Mubarak will leave if the rest returns in Egypt..
Because Mubarak doesn't want to leave the country like a loser...
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 12:37 PM Open Al Jazeera (Arabic or English) 50,000 marching in Tahrir Square! Beautiful.
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Al Jazeera breaking: Disagreement emerges between army & Presidency on how to deal with protesters
Alrayyan January 29th, 2011, 01:23 PM Ya Mubarak Ya Mubarak ... Fondo8 Jeddah Binti6'arak
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 01:35 PM Open Al Jazeera (Arabic or English) 50,000 marching in Tahrir Square! Beautiful.
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Al Jazeera breaking: Disagreement emerges between army & Presidency on how to deal with protesters
Ma sha2 Allah , rabena yonsorhom 3ala la vache qui rit .
bidonv January 29th, 2011, 01:45 PM I hate Randa Abou Elazm of El-Arabiya channel.
The-Script January 29th, 2011, 02:32 PM Lavachequirit means Moubarak?
Ya Mubarak Ya Mubarak ... Fondo8 Jeddah Binti6'arak
:lol:
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 02:57 PM Lavachequirit means Moubarak?
:lol:
That is what Egyptians called him since day one of his presidency , this nickname became so popular that they stopped airing this ad on the Egyptian television .:)
The-Script January 29th, 2011, 03:00 PM ^^ Hahah thnx, never heard that one before.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:00 PM Aljazeera : about 1000 people are trying to invade the ministry of interior and police are firing back .
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:02 PM قبول استقالة أحمد عز من الأمانة العامة للحزب الوطني القرضاوي يدعو المصريين إلى الاستمرار في انتفاضتهم ضد النظام
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:07 PM لقرضاوي | ارحل يامبارك إذا كنت تملك في قلبك رحمة أو في قلبك ذرة فكر
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:11 PM The curfew is in effect , tens of thousands of protesters are ignoring it and still chanting : al sha3b yoreed iskat al nizam " the people want to bring this regime down"
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 03:13 PM ahmed ezz resign from the ndp, other ministers resigned to.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:15 PM ahmed ezz resign from the ndp, other ministers resigned to.
Good but that's not enough , they should be prosecuted along with la vache qui rit .
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 03:16 PM ahmed ezz resign from the ndp, other ministers resigned to.
Another pointless and desperate attempt by Mubarak.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 03:17 PM omg they showed comments live from egypt, I never saw egyptian like that before. My heart is breaking I wanna cry.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:18 PM a protest in front of the Egyptian Embassy in Beirut/Lebanon , waving the Egyptian and the Tunisian flags demanding Mubarak to step down and chanting Egypt is an Arabic country not an American state .
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 03:22 PM mubarak will give up soon isA as his dogs leaving him alone he wont be able to handle it.
solent January 29th, 2011, 03:29 PM Egyptian President sacks his entire cabinet as 35 are killed in violent protests
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Running battles take place in Cairo, Suez, Alexandria and Port Said
More than 1,000 people injured in violent clashes with security forces
President Obama urges Egyptian government to enact reforms
Mobile phone system is partially restored after two days' of blackout
Passenger airline diverted to Athens after bomb threat
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak sacked his entire Cabinet today after violent protests saw at least 35 people killed and more than a thousand injured.
Protesters ignored an internet blackout and disruption of mobile phone services to stage mass demonstrations in Cairo, Suez and Alexandria.
Running battles were still taking place this morning despite a curfew and extra security forces and army personnel have been deployed to prevent looting.
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Clashes: Smoke billows from a burning building after violent clashes in Cairo overnight
Anger: 26 people have been killed in four days of protests in Egyptian cities over unemployment, poverty and rising prices
Outcry: President Hosni Mubarak today sacked his entire Cabinet and promised reforms after the violent protests
In a televised address, President Mubarak made vague promises of social reform but did not offer to step down himself.
He also defended his security forces - further enraging protesters already angry over a spate of fatal shootings by the police.
He said: 'It is not by setting fire and by attacking private and public property that we achieve the aspirations of Egypt and its sons, but they will be achieved through dialogue, awareness and effort.'
Calling the anti-government protests 'part of a bigger plot to shake the stability and destroy the legitimacy of Egypt's political system', he added: 'We aspire for more democracy, more effort to combat unemployment and poverty and combat corruption.'
His words are likely to be seen as an attempt to cling to power, rather than a pledge to tackle Egypt's problems - including poverty, unemployment and rising food prices.
Crackdown: An Egyptian soldier stands guard next to an armoured personnel carrier in Tahrir Square, Cairo
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Pledge: President Mubarak made a TV address in which he called for dialogue to prevent further protests. Right, U.S. President Barack Obama urged him to take steps to improve the rights of Egyptian people
Casualties: A man shows the injuries he sustained during clashes with security forces in Cairo
Furious crowds torched the headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party and threw rocks and petrol bombs at police.
More than half of the dead were reported in Suez, where the clashes have been most violent over the last four days.
The government response has drawn harsh criticism, notably from the U.S. which has threatened to reduce a $1.5billion foreign aid programme if the use of force escalates.
President Barack Obama said he called Mr Mubarak immediately after his TV address and urged the Egyptian leader to take 'concrete steps that advance the rights of the Egyptian people'.
He added: 'The U.S. will continue to stand up for the rights of the Egyptian people and work with their government in pursuit of a future that is more just, more free and more hopeful.'
Gathering: Hundreds of demonstrators climb on top of armoured vehicles in Tahrir Square. The government had shut down the internet and mobile phone system to prevent protests
Torched: The headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party was badly burned
Defiant: A protester stands in front of riot police and a water cannon outside a mosque
Mr Mubarak, 82, has been a close ally of Washington and a beneficiary of U.S. aid for decades.
The protests were triggered by the overthrow of Tunisian President Zine al-Abidine Ben Al Ben Ali. Street protests in Tunis focused on similar issues, including poverty and political repression.
Demonstrations have also flared in Yemen, Algeria, Sudan and Jordan in recent weeks.
Mr Mubarak said: 'There will be new steps towards democracy and freedoms and new steps to face unemployment and increase the standard of living and services, and there will be new steps to help the poor and those with limited income.
'There is a fine line between freedom and chaos and I lean towards freedom for the people in expressing their opinions as much as I hold on to the need to maintain Egypt's safety and stability.'
Mass unrest: Protests have broken out in Suez, Cairo, Port Said and Alexandria and in 11 states in Egypt
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Damage: A burnt out car stands in front of a torched police station in Garden City, Cairo
Nobel Peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei, a leading pro-democracy advocate who returned to the country from Vienna on Thursday, has been placed under house arrest.
Egypt's national airline suspended flights for at least 12 hours and a Cairo Airport official said some international airlines had cancelled flights to the capital overnight.
But there were reports that a limited mobile phone service had been restored in the country.
It comes after an EgyptAir passenger flight had to be diverted to Athens after a bomb threat.
A note containing the threat was apparently found on board the flight from London Heathrow, and the pilot requested the diversion.
All 251 passengers, including around 50 Britons, were put up in hotels in the Greek capital as investigators searched the plane. No traces of explosives were found.
Out in force: The Egyptian government deployed the Army and special forces at key locations in Egypt
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Message: The headquarters of President Mubarak's party was torched last night
Anthony Skinner, associate director of political risk consultancy Maplecroft, said the president's conduct was reminiscent of Mr Ben Ali in his final days in power.
'Mubarak is showing he is still there for now and he is trying to deflect some of the force of the process away from himself by sacking the Cabinet,' he said.
'We will have to see how people react but I don't think it will be enough at all. I wouldn't want to put a number on his chances of survival - we really are in uncharted territory.'
Elections were due to be held in September and until now few had doubted that Mubarak would remain in control or install his son Gamal, 47, as his successor.
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MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:30 PM حرق مبنى مباحث أمن الدولة بالإسماعيلية
رجال الداخلية يتوجهون الى مدينة الرحاب والاهالى تتكلم عن مجازر بحقهم
حرق قسم الويلي والمساجين يخرجون السنج والمطاوي ويبدأون في التحرك في الشوارع
السويس : إضراب تام للعمال فى مصنع سيراميك كيلوباترا بالسويس
السويس : إضراب تام للعمال فى مصنع سيراميك كيلوباترا بالسويس
DaZed and DiZzy January 29th, 2011, 03:31 PM that is the difference in tunisia when ben ali proposed to fire all of his ministers his ministers turned on him (better him then us)
I don't see that in Eygpt
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 03:37 PM the whole gov resigned!
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:40 PM اللصوص والبلطجية يهربون من اقسام الشرطة ويقوموا بالتعدي علي الممتلكات ويرجح الشارع المصري انهم تابعيين للامن المصري لوقف المظاهرات والقيام بالتخريب
recent History repeats itself , that is exactly what zayn al harebeen has done after he left .
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 03:42 PM ليكن الهتاف الشعب يريد اعدام النظام
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 03:47 PM egyptians are teaming up to protect egyptians houses and othes stuff like banks and musumes.
rdj January 29th, 2011, 03:55 PM Go Egypt!!!!
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 04:02 PM Thanks for the avatar and support rdj. :)
So I just got into a car accident, im okay though, waiting for police to arrive...on my phone so can anyone update me on what happened today?
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 04:05 PM a women from al mohandesen is crying on tv and saying organised group is down there stopping people from even opening there windows.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 04:05 PM i hope you're okay egypt69.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 04:14 PM millions down the street at least 20k going to the interor ministry I cant express the numbers the army is calm even though even they were asked to stop people.
I'm seeing egyptians taking down fire near the musume!
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 04:15 PM Doonntt worry, im fine! :) just keep the updates please, I'm not gonna be home for a while.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 04:18 PM Omar Solayman has been appointed as vice president
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 04:19 PM Doonntt worry, im fine! :) just keep the updates please, I'm not gonna be home for a while.
salamtak egypt69
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 04:20 PM right now theives are in maddi, al mohandesen and al re7ab.
Mubarak is in a meeting with important people and "mubarak yo3len 2an 3omar soliman na2eb al ra2es al masry! "
Mickey January 29th, 2011, 04:21 PM Go on! Democracy is the final goal, and removing Mubarak is the first step towards it.
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 04:24 PM Omar Sulieman has been sworn in as Vice President.
nomarandlee January 29th, 2011, 04:25 PM http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Global-Viewpoint/2011/0128/Will-democratic-movements-in-Tunisia-and-Egypt-heed-lessons-of-Iran-s-revolution
Will democratic movements in Tunisia and Egypt heed lessons of Iran's revolution?
An exiled former president of Iran explains that an open future for the Arab world could mean the flowering of democracy – or resurgent dictatorship. To keep a new strongman from taking over, certain conditions must be met.
By Abolhassan Bani-Sadr / January 28, 2011
Paris
By removing a despot who was the main obstacle to democracy, the Tunisian revolt has immense importance for the Arab and Islamic world. Above all, it has opened up a future which, due to the iron grip of an authoritarian political system backed by European and Arab governments, had been considered closed.
As we see already from the burgeoning demonstrations in Egypt, it is not lost on others in the region that ousting corrupt autocrats is no longer just an impossible dream. Tunisia’s message to others in the region is that despotism is not a lot in life to which they must submit. That message is spreading fast because the Tunisian democratic movement is legitimately homegrown and not tied to a Western sponsor, as was the case with the US invasion of Iraq.
As I well know from personal experience, however, an open future includes not only the possibility of democracy, but the possibility of resurgent dictatorship in one form or another.
In order to achieve democracy and diminish the prospect of a new strongman taking over, certain conditions have to be fulfilled.
Distance from old regimes and elites
First, the movement has to distance itself from the old regime and its elites. Revolutions only happen when the system is thoroughly dismantled and rebuilt. For now, the political and neo-liberal economic structures which supported Ben Ali’s dictatorship, although shaken and fragile, are to a large extent still intact. The same elites are still in charge.
From this perspective, it was a mistake for the movement to enter into negotiations to form a coalition government with the old elites. They can be trusted only when they voluntarily resign and allow themselves to be replaced by others elected by the people.
Second, the entire structure of the despotic regime – the executive, judiciary and legislative branches – should be revolutionized. It would be a mistake to limit the objectives of the movement to simply changing personalities.
The lack of experience on the part of ordinary people should not lead the movement to import elites from the former regime into the new government. My experience of the 1979 Iranian revolution taught me that in any department and ministry there are enough patriotic experts who are not tarnished by their association with the former regime and who are willing to play a constructive role in rebuilding the country. The fact that the existing elites have the lion’s share of the seats in government indicates that there is a serious shortcoming here. This gap has to be filled as soon as possible; otherwise, the elites of the ancien regime will reconstitute their power.
The people in the streets who toppled the regime should not think for a moment that their work is done, and that they can retire to their homes now and leave the rest to political organizations. On the contrary, they must make their presence felt in every corner of the country and at every layer of government, perhaps through the formation of local revolutionary councils.
People should stop looking for leaders to take over, and recognize that everyone can develop leadership skills in practice through taking responsibilities, engaging in debate and working with others in the movement.
Public space belongs to the people
In democracies, public space belongs to the people. Whenever they feel there are issues to be addressed, they must return to the streets. If people abandon the political space, it will inevitably be filled with power-oriented political organizations that will ultimately re-impose repressive practices.
Despite their many differences from secular to Islamist, political organizations should develop a common commitment to democratic values and the rights of individuals.
Any violation of these principles by the state, against even a single person or group, should be resisted by all.
The unfortunate lesson of the Iranian revolution was that most political organizations did not commit themselves to democracy. Lacking the unity of a democratic front, one by one they became targets of power-seeking clergy in the form of the Islamic Republic Party, and were pushed aside.
In this first peaceful revolt of the 21st century in an Islamic country, Islamic intellectuals have an important role in identifying, developing, and introducing an Islamic discourse of freedom instead of power so that human dignity and rights are respected and defended for all regardless of religion or gender.
After the Iranian revolution, I protested against the show trials and executions of members of the former regime, arguing that those seeking power begin by violating the rights of those who have committed various crimes, but will ultimately violate the rights of the innocent.
The defense of the rights of all citizens must thus include the members of the old regime who are accused of crime and corruption. If the rights of these people are respected, then one can be sure that the rights of others will as well.
As we have seen (and may see further), those in power will resort to violence in order to impose themselves on society. They do so because they believe that people might compromise freedom in exchange for security, and thus become easy prey for a strong dictator or party.
Don't let revolutionary guards form
In order to neutralize the violence of such groups, any new government must resist the temptation to create its own revolutionary guard. If contemporary Iran is any indication, such organizations can all too easily morph into an econo-military mafia that becomes part and parcel of the new elite. The solution is rather to reorganize the existing forces of security so they are subject to civilian democracy and the rule of law.
The experience of Tunisia has shown that a revolution can succeed in overthrowing despotism without relying on a power-oriented Khomeini. When a social movement is spontaneous and horizontal, it has a far greater chance of achieving its goals.
But social revolution is an experiment, the path of which is strewn with obstacles at every turn. As such, it will require persistent struggle over many years, not just for a few weeks.
How 5 revolutions got their names
Now there is no turning back. That struggle will bring true democracy if those who made the revolution persist. If they fall back, strongmen are waiting in the wings to seize power out of the vacuum. Then, as in Iran, the people will have to start all over again to regain their freedom.
Abolhassan Bani-Sadr was the first president of Iran after the Iranian revolution overthrew the Shah in 1979. He lives in exile outside Paris.
© 2011 Global Viewpoint Network/Tribune Media Services. Hosted online by The Christian Science Monitor.
A fascinating read from someone who knows about how to throw a revolution and its pitfalls.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 04:25 PM It looks like the regime wants to secure that the next president will be from the regime circle that would allow Mubarak and his family to leave without being arrested and at the same time Omar Solaiman is accepted by the US and the West . That is not good , people want the whole regime to be brought down including Solaiman himself .
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 04:26 PM Omar Solayman has been appointed as vice president
Not good :ohno:
salamtak egypt69
Allay salimik, I'm totally fine ya gama3a, no worries.
Help me stay updated on Egypt though!
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 04:27 PM عمر سليمان إختيار أمريكي رائع فهو اكبر ضامن لحماية مصالح امريكا واسرائيل في المنطقة
أوامر شخصية من مبارك بقتل قيادات الاخوان فى السجون
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 04:30 PM Sami Anan might be appointed as a 2nd Vice president as well.
Azmat January 29th, 2011, 04:30 PM Thanks for the avatar and support rdj. :)
So I just got into a car accident, im okay though, waiting for police to arrive...on my phone so can anyone update me on what happened today?
Salamtak, was it a big accident?
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 04:35 PM Salamtak, was it a big accident?
No it wasnt :). But guys forget about me, Egypt only please!
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 04:36 PM Gamal wa 3ala2 Mubarak and their families fled to London/England...Aljazeera
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 04:36 PM Al Jazeera CONFIRMS Alaa and Gamal Mubarak and their families are in London.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 04:36 PM omar suliman was on tv infront of mubarak a sec ago swearing to kiss mubarak's a** now!
Ras Siyan January 29th, 2011, 04:37 PM The curfew had taken effect right? Are they firing at the protesters yet? How is the situation?
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 04:41 PM http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs258.snc6/180661_1280831677225_1723074630_524127_4096734_n.jpg
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 04:42 PM the army is not applying the curfew
People down the street saying we are here from the first day and will not go any where and there voice is fading!
midani January 29th, 2011, 04:55 PM matsoumouch wteftarou 3ala basala, omar soulayman is appointed by usa, you will win inshallah, you are very close to a big victory.:cheers:
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 04:58 PM ahmed shafek the new PM who the hell is that?
jerseyboi January 29th, 2011, 05:00 PM http://i51.tinypic.com/15ow03q.jpg
bring back monarchy - as constitutional monarchy like Spain did.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 05:03 PM Ahmad Shafik appointed to form a new government
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 05:04 PM ahmed shafek the new PM who the hell is that?
He is the minister of civil aviation
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 05:05 PM What a mess :doh:
Simfan34 January 29th, 2011, 05:07 PM http://i51..com/15
bring back monarchy - as constitutional monarchy like Spain did.
Ain't going to happen, but +1 anyways. Make sure the king isn't a fat hedonistic slob this time.
DaZed and DiZzy January 29th, 2011, 05:08 PM don't bring back the monarchy
make sure the vp brings reforms in his own time or continue protesting
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 05:10 PM People are chanting against appointing Solayman as vice president
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 05:12 PM don't bring back the monarchy
make sure the vp brings reforms in his own time or continue protesting
Mubarak is not considered by Egyptians anymore as a legitimate president , his decisions don't make any difference at all to the people ...ma boneya 3ala battel fa howa battel .
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 05:29 PM Ahmad Shafik..
Wow the regime is officially messed up. President, Vice President, and Prime Minsiter: All over 70 years in age.
Sami Anan needs to overthrow Mubarak (and Tantawi) through a Coup.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 05:32 PM OMG, numbers are in thousands in london police is increasing with helicopters!
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 05:42 PM If the Egyptian regime falls , it would be followed immediately by the Plestinian Authorities of Abbas .a
Azmat January 29th, 2011, 05:42 PM DAMN, the museum has been looted. Those idiots have destroyed several artifacts. :ohno:
Cosmin January 29th, 2011, 05:45 PM It saddens me to see some people gave everything for this, but I'm genuinely happy to see corrupt and abusive governments getting their asses handed over to them.:applause:
I wish all the best to the Egyptian people trying to make a difference and hope they succeed. In fact, I hope more countries in the region wake up and I also hope that, as the article posted by nomarandlee mentions, Egyptians, Tunisians and others are mindful of what happened during the Iranian Revolution and this time they'll go all the way.:okay:
It's a bit hard to comprehend the whole situation, but I'm curios what's the army doing? Are they idle? Are they clamping down on protesters or have they switched sides?
G.O.E.T.I.A January 29th, 2011, 05:46 PM DAMN, the museum has been looted. Those idiots have destroyed several artifacts. :ohno:
:ohno:
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 05:47 PM omg open the bbc now live from London students left there protests and joining egypt I'm shocked!
Ras Siyan January 29th, 2011, 05:49 PM DAMN, the museum has been looted. Those idiots have destroyed several artifacts. :ohno:
OMG no!!! :bash:
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 05:50 PM ahmed shafiq life on tv
Azmat January 29th, 2011, 05:55 PM What is he saying?
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 05:56 PM ahmed shafiq life on tv
Which channel?
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 05:57 PM you don't want to know BS!
He asked egyptians to cooperate.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 05:59 PM Which channel?
I was watching bbc arabic and they showed him in the egyptian channel.
Cosmin January 29th, 2011, 06:01 PM you don't want to know BS!
He asked egyptians to cooperate.
But they are! :D
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM people say there is no police in the streets I say they ordered the police to wear normal cloth and do all that but don't worry guys egyptians took stuff from the museums and locked them at near by ,mosques!
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 06:32 PM راصد الإسكندرية : الحمله الشعبيه بالاسكندريه بدأت الان بالفعل القبض علي البلطجيه وتم تسليمهم لرجال الجيش
الامان بدأ يعود الي الاسكندريه
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 06:35 PM see its either police or them that proves my point.
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 06:39 PM el baradei on tv now, aje
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 06:39 PM I am SO SO worried. My grandparents are at risk :ohno: The government thugs are combing through upper class neighborhoods, raiding houses, looting them, vandalising them.
I have 2 pairs of grandparents, both are 85 years old and over, sick and weak. They can hear the gunshots from their houses. It is lawless now. Lawless. I am worried sick.
Alas, the people/protesters have formed groups to protect each others neighborhoods, and they are beginning to subdue the thugs, and hand them over to the army.
The army is sending buses of soldiers to different neighborhoods to maintain order.
The human shield protecting the Egyptian Museum:
http://a.yfrog.com/img619/3962/h2fw.jpg
Libidito January 29th, 2011, 06:39 PM I'm following the protest by CNN, I hope everything can be finish en good terms.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 06:42 PM see its either police or them that proves my point.
Absolutely , everybody beleives these baltageyya are either police forces themselves or supported by police forces .
I read that the security forces in Egypt including Amn al Dawla , amn MARKAZEE....ETC totals 2 Million people , can you beleive this ??? Just to put thing into perspective , the Egyptian Army totals only 350.000 .
So when we say a Police state...We mean it .
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 06:45 PM army is 1,000,000 half them active and the other half is inactive.
jonio January 29th, 2011, 06:46 PM A big greeting to all the Egyptian people, who can free themselves from tyranny and the terrible atrocities committed in these days, and can finally land of freedom and democracy.
Come on, we are close!
egypt69 January 29th, 2011, 06:47 PM Call armed forces hotline to report looting- 19614 - Call your families and friends in Egypt (home)...
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 06:50 PM el baradei say Mubarak go today before tomorrow
ifif07 January 29th, 2011, 06:51 PM burglars are now starting to attack residential appartments. This is very worrying
ifif07 January 29th, 2011, 06:51 PM I cannot beleive what happened to the Egyptian Museum. This is a nightmare
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 06:52 PM I am SO SO worried. My grandparents are at risk :ohno: The government thugs are combing through upper class neighborhoods, raiding houses, looting them, vandalising them.
I have 2 pairs of grandparents, both are 85 years old and over, sick and weak. They can hear the gunshots from their houses. It is lawless now. Lawless. I am worried sick.
Alas, the people/protesters have formed groups to protect each others neighborhoods, and they are beginning to subdue the thugs, and hand them over to the army.
The army is sending buses of soldiers to different neighborhoods to maintain order.
The human shield protecting the Egyptian Museum:
http://a.yfrog.com/img619/3962/h2fw.jpg
Rabbena ye7meehom isa , Allah yekhreb beit elle kan el sabab .
maasai1 January 29th, 2011, 07:00 PM some crazy americans are now calling their president muBARAK OBAMA. LOL!
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 07:04 PM read the title down in aje they proved my point they caught those thieves and said they are from the police!
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 07:10 PM ahmed zewiel on tv now!
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 07:10 PM BBC|الإخوان المسلمون وكل القوى الوطنية والسياسية يشكلون لجنة لحماية المنشآت العامة والخاصة ويفتحون مقرات نواب مجلس الشعب السابق ومقرات الأحزاب في القاهرة والمحافظات لتقديم المساعدات وإدارة عمليات الحفاظ على ممتلكات مصر
متظاهرو الإسكندريه يقبضون على مسلحين حاولا السطو على بنك تبين أنهما من الشرطه
راصد الإسكندرية | نصف مليون سكندري الان يجتمعون عند كورنيش الاسكندريه ويهتفون كلنا لجان شعبيه
UAE_isthebest January 29th, 2011, 07:11 PM WATCH: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
The situation looks totally out of control! I'm quite worried guys..
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 07:11 PM G.Mubarak will resign tomorrow at most people confirms.
UAE_isthebest January 29th, 2011, 07:12 PM @monaeltahawy FAMILY UNDER ATTACK IN MAADI! 19614 DISCONNECTED! WHO TO CALL.. FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS IN THE STREET TRYING TO PROTECT HOUSES!
Who the hell is destroying Residential houses!!!??
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 07:13 PM Ahmed Zewail on Al Arabiya. Listen if you can.
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 07:13 PM دعا رئيس الاتحاد العالمي لعلماء المسلمين الشيخ يوسف القرضاوي الرئيس المصري حسني مبارك إلى الرحيل على رجليه مختارا قبل أن يرحل اضطرارا، وليكن له في الرئيس التونسي زين العابدين بن علي عبرة. واصفا النظام المصري بأنه لا يعي ولا يعقل فهو أعمى لا يبصر وأصم
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 07:14 PM @monaeltahawy FAMILY UNDER ATTACK IN MAADI! 19614 DISCONNECTED! WHO TO CALL.. FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS IN THE STREET TRYING TO PROTECT HOUSES!
Who the hell is destroying Residential houses!!!??
Police forces under cover .
DepressedAli January 29th, 2011, 07:15 PM Made in USA!
http://i.imgur.com/NwLWb.png
DaZed and DiZzy January 29th, 2011, 07:19 PM at least they put on the bottle what you should do if it gets into your eyes ;)
UAE_isthebest January 29th, 2011, 07:20 PM Police forces under cover .
OMG! ;o! :ohno::bash:
MASRI January 29th, 2011, 07:21 PM Unconfirmed:
New Defense minister:
Sami Anan
New Interior Minister:
Hassan Abdel Rahman
MSYYZ January 29th, 2011, 07:21 PM The families of Israeli diplomats leave Egypt .
xAbd0o January 29th, 2011, 07:28 PM just calling egypt and people are down the streets protecting houses in egypt, gun shots are heard everywhere the atmosphere is totally black! That's in alexandria.
DepressedAli January 29th, 2011, 07:29 PM at least they put on the bottle what you should do if it gets into your eyes ;)
That won't help you much when you are hit square on the head with it!
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