Name: Hawei Training Center

Project Owner: Hauwei Technologies Co. Ltd (China)

Location: Place du 30 Juin (ex-Place de la gare) /Gombe / Kinshasa

Consisting of : Training Center and Corporate Offices


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cool , what will the training be for ? huawei is a communications company i assume it's something in that field

It is a Shenzhen-based high-tech company which specializes in research and development, production and marketing of communications equipment; second world’s largest (behind Ericsson) supplier of global mobile network gear.

Nice. Hopefully we got to see Mobile phones Manufacturing in the country and supply the rest of the continent.

Nice. Hopefully we got to see Mobile phones Manufacturing in the country and supply the rest of the continent.

makes sense the drc has a huge potential in the telecommunications sector especially in the mobile market exciting times

La Place du 30 juin is getting upgraded. :okay: But i like SOZACOM Building, Onatra building is the ugly one and got to go. The ones i dislike the most are where Belgian Embassy is located.

makes sense the drc has a huge potential in the telecommunications sector especially in the mobile market exciting times

Yes, not just market wise, but manufacturing wise especially since we have 80% of the world's Coltan minerals.

CCT (Congo-China Telecom ) company is Mobile operator owned by both countries 51-49 shares.

La Place du 30 juin is getting upgraded. :okay: But i like SOZACOM Building, Onatra building is the ugly one and got to go. The ones i dislike the most are where Belgian Embassy is located.

I would disagree on Onatra: both Sozacom and Onatra buildings, even the galleries présidentielles towers (near the Belgian embassy) are architectural landmarks of Kinshasa. They are unique in their design. The only problem they face, as do all state-owned high-rise structures, is the lack of maintenance. The modernization of Kinshasa will not make any sense if these buildings are not upgraded. The following buildings must be upgraded as a matter of priority:
Sozacom, Onatra, Forescom, the RTNC Tower, the CCIC tower, the Galleries présidentielles towers and Regideso. If this is done, Kinshasa will once again deserve its nickname: “Kin la Belle”. If not, then, well..."Kin poubelle"...

This is great News, But I really don't like short buildings in the CBD centre. Gare centrale is alright at 32 storeys but the council should restrict on building taller buildings to accommodate the ever growing need of office space and giving the city an organised skyline.



Maybe "La cite du fleuve" will compromise, since it will consists of a planned and organised skyline with tall office towers

I would disagree on Onatra: both Sozacom and Onatra buildings, even the galleries présidentielles towers (near the Belgian embassy) are architectural landmarks of Kinshasa. They are unique in their design. The only problem they face, as do all state-owned high-rise structures, is the lack of maintenance. The modernization of Kinshasa will not make any sense if these buildings are not upgraded. The following buildings must be upgraded as a matter of priority:
Sozacom, Onatra, Forescom, the RTNC Tower, the CCIC tower, the Galleries présidentielles towers and Regideso. If this is done, Kinshasa will once again deserve its nickname: “Kin la Belle”. If not, then, well..."Kin poubelle"...

Preserving some buildings makes sense, i'm for it.
However ; Forestcom is done, so Rotten. that building even has trees growing on the building.:ohno:. I would rather sleep outside than in a building that would collapse any given moment.

The Marche Central has to be moved from there as well. It should be moved to Makala or Selembao Commune. Than make that area a nice Square public place.

Anywho. I think we must build a new Capital in the center of the country. with a max of 5 levels for all Federal depertments/ministries.

A city that can hold 500,000 people. This could be done within 5 years frametime. Providing jobs to national profesionals and 10s of 1000s of employements.

Kinshasa got to be unclogged.

Preserving some buildings makes sense, i'm for it.
However ; Forestcom is done, so Rotten. that building even has trees growing on the building.:ohno:. I would rather sleep outside than in a building that would collapse any given moment.

The Marche Central has to be moved from there as well. It should be moved to Makala or Selembao Commune. Than make that area a nice Square public place.

Anywho. I think we must build a new Capital in the center of the country. with a max of 5 levels for all Federal depertments/ministries.

A city that can hold 500,000 people. This could be done within 5 years frametime. Providing jobs to national profesionals and 10s of 1000s of employements.

Kinshasa got to be unclogged.



A new Capital in the Center of the Country makes sense . To be honest it would suit the country better. The new Capital should not have more than 3 million people. Brazil did this some years ago. They build Brazila , right in the center of the country . To me Kinshasa should be a turned into the manufacture city.(Chinese style). That provided the blue collor jobs and also provide the country with the farming labour.

This is great News, But I really don't like short buildings in the CBD centre. Gare centrale is alright at 32 storeys but the council should restrict on building taller buildings to accommodate the ever growing need of office space and giving the city an organised skyline.

What council? perhaps if a super miracle happens.

Personally i don't like too many tall scrapers. For Kinshasa i would just like to see no more than 10 skyscrapers ( 30+ storeys high).

What i like would like to see in Gombe will be Glass and Steel only buildings.

Maybe "La cite du fleuve" will compromise, since it will consists of a planned and organised skyline with tall office towers

10,000 Office spaces. With Congo Towers. will be sweet stuff.

Preserving some buildings makes sense, i'm for it.
However ; Forestcom is done, so Rotten. that building even has trees growing on the building.:ohno:. I would rather sleep outside than in a building that would collapse any given moment.

The Marche Central has to be moved from there as well. It should be moved to Makala or Selembao Commune. Than make that area a nice Square public place.

Anywho. I think we must build a new Capital in the center of the country. with a max of 5 levels for all Federal depertments/ministries.

A city that can hold 500,000 people. This could be done within 5 years frametime. Providing jobs to national profesionals and 10s of 1000s of employements.

Kinshasa got to be unclogged.

Concerning Forescom, I was thinking exactly like you until I saw the rotten-to-the-bones school rehabilitated by Moise Katumbi in Lubumbashi. This building is a national monument: the first high-rise building built in the Congo. I am sure that some experts in property development can save it; no stone should be left unturned for that purpose. It is our national heritage after all.

As for Marché central, I would agree with you: it should be moved to the outskirts, or to a less central commune; the botanical garden should be extended to the vacated area.
However, Moving the capital to the central part of the country is not necessary for several reasons:

1. Kinshasa is not clogged; it is just victim of bad governance (lack of urban planning). Kinshasa is one the biggest capital cities in the world in terms of surface area (9,980km²) and certainly the one with the most unevenly distributed population. Indeed, over 7,000 km² of Kinshasa’s surface area (commune de Maluku) is practically uninhabited. 10 million souls live in just 2,500 km². Several satellite cities can be built in Maluku, which would “unclog” Kinshasa.

2. As it is, Kinshasa is “almost” not landlocked (400 km from the Atlantic coast) and enjoys a big strategic depth (the distance separating it from potential enemies of the state). Why should all these advantages be given up?

3. The cost. Who will foot the bill resulting from the building a new capital city?

Concerning Forescom, I was thinking exactly like you until I saw the rotten-to-the-bones school rehabilitated by Moise Katumbi in Lubumbashi. This building is a national monument: the first high-rise building built in the Congo. I am sure that some experts in property development can save it; no stone should be left unturned for that purpose. It is our national heritage after all.
My god. You remember the building in Lubumbashi :lol::lol: I change my mind.

As for Marché central, I would agree with you: it should be moved to the outskirts, or to a less central commune; the botanical garden should be extended to the vacated area.

Ecatly my thought.


However, Moving the capital to the central part of the country is not necessary for several reasons:

1. Kinshasa is not clogged; it is just victim of bad governance (lack of urban planning). Kinshasa is one the biggest capital cities in the world in terms of surface area (9,980km²) and certainly the one with the most unevenly distributed population. Indeed, over 7,000 km² of Kinshasa’s surface area (commune de Maluku) is practically uninhabited. 10 million souls live in just 2,500 km². Several satellite cities can be built in Maluku, which would “unclog” Kinshasa.

Maluku; As i always said it ahould the industrial disctrict of Kinshasa state. of course building a satelite city there of about 1 million people.

N'Sele also should be Industrial as well.
2. As it is, Kinshasa is “almost” not landlocked (400 km from the Atlantic coast) and enjoys a big strategic depth (the distance separating it from potential enemies of the state). Why should all these advantages be given up?

Kinshasa to me view should be left as the Industrial and Commercial city.

Having the capital in the center of the country is being closer to the enemies?

Kinshasa will not loose it value as the Industrial , Commercial and Financial capital.


3. The cost. Who will foot the bill resulting from the building a new capital city?

It wont be a Pharaonic task:lol:. It can be done , to build a Capital of 300,000 people at the max.

The country will pay the bill.

Having the capital in the center of the country is being closer to the enemies?
Recent events proved that this is the case. The further from the eastern border the better.

Anyway, speaking of industrialization, the fact that such a big multinational company as Huawei Technologies has chosen to establish its training center in Kinshasa is an encouraging sign of improving business climate in the DRC. Many companies have hitherto practiced savage capitalism which consisted in realizing a maximum profit in the shortest of time and transferring the proceeds abroad. No long term investments (e.g. property acquisition) were made. Many companies were using private villas as HQs. If the political instability due to the war (1996-2003) and the transition period (2003-2006) could justify such practices, they are unacceptable today. Fortunately, they are coming to a close and the Chinese are leading the way.

Recent events proved that this is the case. The further from the eastern border the better.
What happens in the east is Central Government's responsibility. A failure thats unforgivable and intolerable.
Angola could easily do damages. what they have been doing to Congolese is another Intolerable and unforgivable failure by this gournment.

Sad that people are scared of those little chicken countries.

Anyway, speaking of industrialization, the fact that such a big multinational company as Huawei Technologies has chosen to establish its training center in Kinshasa is an encouraging sign of improving business climate in the DRC. Many companies have hitherto practiced savage capitalism which consisted in realizing a maximum profit in the shortest of time and transferring the proceeds abroad. No long term investments (e.g. property acquisition) were made. Many companies were using private villas as HQs. If the political instability due to the war (1996-2003) and the transition period (2003-2006) could justify such practices, they are unacceptable today. Fortunately, they are coming to a close and the Chinese are leading the way.

Balancing investors. (The West and the East all invest in the country).

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The Marche Central has to be moved from there as

Anywho. I think we must build a new Capital in the center of the country. with a max of 5 levels for all Federal depertments/ministries.

A city that can hold 500,000 people. This could be done within 5 years frametime. Providing jobs to national profesionals and 10s of 1000s of employements.

Kinshasa got to be unclogged.


Agree. This market should get out of the downtown area. At the same time this will reduce the massive number of people going that direction every morning. The land could be used for another infrastructure project or public facilities (parc...).

You and I know very well that we're not going to see anything like that happen any time soon with the current leadership even we all believe it is more than necessary. We will unfortunately have to hope for an alternative. When you can't organize a CAN competition, don't even dream pf a project like this.

Agree. This market should get out of the downtown area. At the same time this will reduce the massive number of people going that direction every morning.

Yes, unclogging the huge traffic that that heads to Gombe.

I was actually thinking if that market was moved to west part of Kinshasa where the errosions have devastated . Building a far bigger commercial center there. since its less populated there and the erosion sites would be covered.


The land could be used for another infrastructure project or public facilities (parc...).
Along with Camp Kokolo (Into a Green Park) and Ndolo Airport into another highrise modern buildings (Offices, Condo and Museums, massive convention center area ), Kinshasa would be transformed into a city in it own league among meggapolitan African cities. (But thats just another another wishful thinking :( )


You and I know very well that we're not going to see anything like that happen any time soon with the current leadership even we all believe it is more than necessary. We will unfortunately have to hope for an alternative. When you can't organize a CAN competition, don't even dream pf a project like this.
You know, its just my wishful thinking.:lol:

April 2011 Update

While Rakeen, just across from Place de la Gare, is struggling to build one floor on top of the other, the Chinese project is going full steam ahead. One of the two (three?) buildings has already been topped out.

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Rather than two; 11 floor and 6 floor twin buildings.


I would have liked it more if it were, just one 17 floor building.




Short buildings in the CBD do not look good.


I approve of the Rakaeen 32 floor building and I wish all the buildings in the CBD central were of at least 20 floors

Rather than two; 11 floor and 6 floor twin buildings.


I would have liked it more if it were, just one 17 floor building.




Short buildings in the CBD do not look good.


I approve of the Rakaeen 32 floor building and I wish all the buildings in the CBD central were of at least 20 floors

As much as we would like it to be otherwise, the policy of allowing only the construction of high-rise buildings in the CBD is unworkable in Kinshasa. First of all, most of the construction plots are in private hands and the owners can deal with them at will. Secondly, for understandable economic reasons, the city needs all investors it can get to fill its coffers. It is they who decide which kind of buildings they want to construct to meet their economic objectives. Picking and choosing investors according to their building projects will keep them away from the city.

This policy can be implemented in a purpose-built city like Cité du Fleuve or Eko Atlantic City in Lagos/Nigeria, not in a historic city like Kinshasa. The future of Kinshasa’s CBD will be a mixture of low and high-rise buildings like in European cities.

As much as we would like it to be otherwise, the policy of allowing only the construction of high-rise buildings in the CBD is unworkable in Kinshasa. First of all, most of the construction plots are in private hands and the owners can deal with them at will. Secondly, for understandable economic reasons, the city needs all investors it can get to fill its coffers. It is they who decide which kind of buildings they want to construct to meet their economic objectives. Picking and choosing investors according to their building projects will keep them away from the city.

This policy can be implemented in a purpose-built city like Cité du Fleuve or Eko Atlantic City in Lagos/Nigeria, not in a historic city like Kinshasa. The future of Kinshasa’s CBD will be a mixture of low and high-rise buildings like in European cities.


+100.

We can't afford to scare away investors. Let them just build.

I am in favor of removing the old rugged central train station's yellow building and replacing it by a huge "Hilton" 5-star hotel and 2 to 4 additional skyscrapers, for the gare centrale plazza to become the unchallenged modern Kinshasa's "living room"!
What a dream!

I am in favor of removing the old rugged central train station's yellow building and replacing it by a huge "Hilton" 5-star hotel and 2 to 4 additional skyscrapers, for the gare centrale plazza to become the unchallenged modern Kinshasa's "living room"!
What a dream!

Good . But i want an Ultra Modern Train Station instead of a Hotel.

What needs to be done in all Gome. is to tear down some rotten building to make room for updated Ultra modern buildings and rehabilitate some Historical ones.

The old train station building can actually be removed literally by uprooting it from the ground to carry it on a the back of a special semi-trailer truck to a more appropriate place. I agree, modern Kinshasa deserves a modern central train station but I wouldn't tear down any building in a city that barely have a dozen multi-storey buildings.
I think rotten old buildings like Hotel Regina (next to Onatra HQ), Forescom...should be upgraded as Pius put it so nicely in one of his postings. From my perspective, it would be a big mistake to destroy high-rises in any part of Kinshasa for any reason bcse they're not too many to begin with.

I agreed with Pius that Buildings like Forescom, and Hotel Regina can be remodeled. But there are some buildings that must be torn down because they are too old and a public safety hazard . We don't want to start tearing down rotten buildings after people have died in some others that have collapsed.


The land where some were torn down can be sold cheaply to developers, it could easily be bought and newer modern buildings will spring up to fill the spaces with safer, modern buildings.

I understand that old and hazardous buildings should be torn down for the sake of public safety but to my knowledge, there's no high-rise aged more than hundred years in downtown Kinshasa. Belgian Congo was born in 1908 (103 years ago) and had its first multi-storey building Forescom maybe ten years later. Congo under the belgian King Leopold 2 had no high-rise so that part of history is discounted. But the truth is that years of neglect by an obvious lack of maintenance policies have inflicted a heavy toll on Onatra building, Regina Hotel, Forescom and other Kinshasa's high-rises, giving them their current shabby, rugged and owful appearence. But, they can be redeemed. It's not too late. Memling Hotel is an exception. It has been renovated a number of time over the past 50 years and looks good.
The Forescom square would be an ideal plazza.

...I meant "awful" appearence..

I got you already. But what i'm saying is. Some building must be torn down to make way for newer buildings.

Buildings like FORESTCOM, SOZACOM, ONATRA, GALLERIE PRESIDENTIEL, HOTEL REGINA Etc...


But things buildings that are not even worth rehabilitating . There is lack of space in Gombe. Newer building could come up if there are spaces.

We're saying the same exact thing: hazardous buildings should be torn down. However none of the buildings you allude to deserve destruction! I personally eyewitnessed constructions of Sozacom and Galeries Presidentielles buildings in the mid- and end of the 70's, respectively. They are fairly new. What is lacking is maintenance. Tearing down buildings to rebuild another instead, doesn't teach us the culture of maintenance. Brussels' Grand Place has 16th and 17th buildings that are still in pretty good shapes and in use (restorants, hotels...)....Rome and many other european cities still use their medieval buildings they renovate over and over to keep them in shape both from the standpoint of safety and beauty. That's exactly what Congo needs to learn. Onatra, Regina, Forescom, Sozacom, Gal. Presidentielles...need only to be upgraded.

We're on the same page. :okay:

The Government's luck of maintenance goes hand in hand with their incompetence in everything. They don't even know the geography of this country.

View from the top:


Here the twin buildings are seen there on the left covered in green mesh. Looks like the 6 floor shorter building is already topped-out.

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This picture made my day...

Please continue....:):):):):):):):):)

View from the top:


Here the twin buildings are seen there on the left covered in green mesh. Looks like the 6 floor shorter building is already topped-out.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5223/5677588787_bd5bd6fc40_b.jpg

We greatly appreciate your contribution! Splendid pic. Sozacom is so elegant that Regina across the street looks more decrepit. If Rakeen were chinese gare centrale twin-towers would be standing topped-out by now.

Very nice pix ! Thanks Screenshotartist!!

quelle belle photo!!!!!

pourquoi on ne parle pas en francais? ce sera mieux pour nous francophone

pourquoi on ne parle pas en francais? ce sera mieux pour nous francophone

La plus par des nos compatriots ( Mois meme inclus) sont plus confortable en Anglais.

pourquoi on ne parle pas en francais? ce sera mieux pour nous francophone

Comment Butembo l'a dis la plupart est comfortable avec l'anglais mais tu peux toujour parler en Francais.

People are reluctant or afraid to make grammatical faults in french, it is sort of uncomfortable, if you know what I mean :) ... But take it easy mate, we all speak french.

Petite parenthese:
Il est interessant de noter que c'est un site internet cree par des anglo-americains assez hostile a la langue francaise... D'ou la predominance de la langue anglaise sur tout les titres...

People are reluctant or afraid to make grammatical faults in french, it is sort of uncomfortable, if you know what I mean :) ... But take it easy mate, we all speak french.
You really got there.:lol::lol:


Petite parenthese:
Il est interessant de noter que c'est un site internet cree par des anglo-americains assez hostile a la langue francaise... D'ou la predominance de la langue anglaise sur tout les titres...

Pas vrais.

View from the top:


Here the twin buildings are seen there on the left covered in green mesh. Looks like the 6 floor shorter building is already topped-out.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5223/5677588787_bd5bd6fc40_b.jpg


No update on the Huawei Tower?
By now the taller 11-storey building should be topped-out.

Update July 2011

After a spectacular start, this project has stalled. There has not been any significant activity at the site for the last three months.

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Update July 2011

After a spectacular start, this project has stalled. There has not been any significant activity at the site for the last three months.

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/raakeen-00004a.jpg?t=1311332357


I hope they are not inspired or contaminated by Rakeen next door!

Update 14.08.2011

Obviously, Huawei has changed the initial design and reduced the floor numbers to 6+8. These two workers are clearly standing on the rooftop.


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thanks pius

Update 22.12.2011

The project is nearing completion

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oh la!!! ouaous!!! avancée significative!! merci pius pour cette belle photo!!
où en sommes nous avec l'immeuble rakeen? les travaux ont ils repris?

oh la!!! ouaous!!! avancée significative!! merci pius pour cette belle photo!!
où en sommes nous avec l'immeuble rakeen? les travaux ont ils repris?

Pas encore. Depuis l’incident du mois d’octobre où les ingénieurs avaient été révoqués, les travaux sont à l’arrêt. Tout porte à croire qu’ils reprendront bientôt (ce mois-ci) avec une nouvelle équipe.

This is Bad.

We are now in 2012 and the CBD is still being filled with short low rise buildings. Then in a couple of decades when the city attracts investors and developers the owners of current short small buildings raise property prices so high, therefore slowing down the development of massive towers that can accommodate more offices and provide more corporate offices in the Central Business District.

Kinshasa is already a mega city with a population nearing 10 million, but at this pace it will take a millennium before Kinshasa becomes a metropolis.


On the good side; it is good to see the Chinese have completed their project. Unlike Rakeen which was such a great prospect but realisation turned out to be, but a dream.

i like how kin is getting these quality offices buildings but it will be superb if other cities of the country received the same treatment as everyone seems to be going to kin everything built in kin guess what happens? everyone comes to kin and it becomes overpopulated lol. Congo should have cities as in the US so far progress is only seen in Kin but nevertheless some progress is being made

i like how kin is getting these quality offices buildings but it will be superb if other cities of the country received the same treatment as everyone seems to be going to kin everything built in kin guess what happens? everyone comes to kin and it becomes overpopulated lol. Congo should have cities as in the US so far progress is only seen in Kin but nevertheless some progress is being made


Kin is one of the few if not the only urban planned CBD. You cannot build office buildings in a random non-urbanised city, where cars will have no easy access to the building, no major international airport, public transport system, and most importatntly; people to rent the offices.

Even though the above features in Kinshasa are in poor condition, but at least Kin has the above and that is why the Chinese investors and other investors will set their eyes on Kinshasa unless adequate infrastructure and urban planning is put in place by the state authority in other cities across the country.

Lubumbashi seems to be the only legit candidate after Kinshasa.

Another vantage point

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Another vantage point

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Pius, happy new year! Let's be caught up all in the "revolution de modernisation" endeavor and hope that this will also trigger a revolution of congolese's mentality.

Nice pictures.

I feel chinese can handle perfectly well the Gare Centrale Project and carry it out to the end without changes.

Pius, happy new year! Let's be caught up all in the "revolution de modernisation" endeavor and hope that this will also trigger a revolution of congolese's mentality.

Nice pictures.

I feel chinese can handle perfectly well the Gare Centrale Project and carry it out to the end without changes.

Happy new year to you too, Epaphras. Let’s hope that the world economic crisis that is looming on the horizon will not affect us adversely and that this time around, the right people will be put in the right place within the administration, starting with Kin City Council. As for Rakeen, I hope this year will bring about a final decision as to the future of the project.

Kin is one of the few if not the only urban planned CBD. You cannot build office buildings in a random non-urbanised city, where cars will have no easy access to the building, no major international airport, public transport system, and most importatntly; people to rent the offices.

Even though the above features in Kinshasa are in poor condition, but at least Kin has the above and that is why the Chinese investors and other investors will set their eyes on Kinshasa unless adequate infrastructure and urban planning is put in place by the state authority in other cities across the country.

Lubumbashi seems to be the only legit candidate after Kinshasa.

You do have a point on what you're saying my point wasnt so much directed at investors but that things shouldn't just be happening in kinshasa even the "cinq chantiers" seems to only happen there thus only kin is largely benefiting. But lubumbashi like you said is another city where projects like this can be b uilt but i dnt think the same couldn't be done in matadi or kananga or kisangani

Even though the above features in Kinshasa are in poor condition, but at least Kin has the above and that is why the Chinese investors and other investors will set their eyes on Kinshasa unless adequate infrastructure and urban planning is put in place by the state authority in other cities across the country.
Kinshasa is really huge and honestly Kinshasa is really a big trash bin as a city. It is up to the authorities to work on modernizing Kinshasa and the whole DRC not the little nonsense propoganda they have been polluting us with; I fail to see who are those leaders who are ready to make huge radical decisions to modernize the city;
Lubumbashi seems to be the only legit candidate after Kinshasa.
Lubumbashi is still bad. The city is overpollutated unfortunatly, the way things are looking, the city's urbanization and its roads of the coloniazation time will be still up for the next 20 years unless we really have a leader, a true leader who can take the mining money and put it into the real modernization of the city.

I fail to see who are those leaders who are ready to make huge radical decisions to modernize the city;
Kin back on it feets in just 5 years if there is a leader.

Kin is one of the few if not the only urban planned CBD. You cannot build office buildings in a random non-urbanised city, where cars will have no easy access to the building, no major international airport, public transport system, and most importatntly; people to rent the offices.

Even though the above features in Kinshasa are in poor condition, but at least Kin has the above and that is why the Chinese investors and other investors will set their eyes on Kinshasa unless adequate infrastructure and urban planning is put in place by the state authority in other cities across the country.

Lubumbashi seems to be the only legit candidate after Kinshasa.

You forgot Butembo as the only Post-Colonial big Town thats well planned. It considered Downtown area is very well planned.

Kin back on it feets in just 5 years if there is a leader.


Kin will thrive in the next five years because anybody at the helm, even a chimp, will do better than Kimbuta.

Kin will thrive in the next five years because anybody at the helm, even a chimp, will do better than Kimbuta.

:lol:

I totally agree!

Anyways: What's the news on BLVD Lumumba?

:lol:

Anyways: What's the news on BLVD Lumumba?

Work on Boulevard Lumumba ( Echangeur – Airport) is coming along well. However, what I do not understand and resent is the fact that they are dragging their feet to complete the first section (Blvd Sendwe – Echangeur): pedestrian bridges, traffic and street lights and landscaping are still missing.

Work on Boulevard Lumumba ( Echangeur – Airport) is coming along well.
Thanks a lot.
However, what I do not understand and resent is the fact that they are dragging their feet to complete the first section (Blvd Sendwe – Echangeur): pedestrian bridges, traffic and street lights and landscaping are still missing.

Obviously. Not surprised. The innocent Roger Busimwa used to come up with technical explaination of whats going on, word by word. But it looks like working better is a bad thing for this government. This new guy Ilunga is just another Kimbuta.

Obviously. Not surprised. The innocent Roger Busimwa used to come up with technical explaination of whats going on, word by word. But it looks like working better is a bad thing for this government. This new guy Ilunga is just another Kimbuta.

That's true. I miss Roger Busimwa; he was a competent and responsible head of ACGT. When it comes to communication skills, Ilunga reminds me of Kimbuta as well.

First building is completed

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Niiice!!!!!. Always thanks.

Outdated architecture but still better than nothing or those rotting buildings in Gombe.



Thank you Pius. Your Picture updates are a great asset to the forum.

Outdated architecture but still better than nothing or those rotting buildings in Gombe.



Thank you Pius. Your Picture updates are a great asset to the forum.

+100

Thank you Pius. Your Picture updates are a great asset to the forum.
Pius really helps us. When I get back to Joburg I will upload some pictures of Lubumbashi.

Mission accomplished: the Huawei Training Center, also known as Huawei Technical University, is completed.


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:applause: well done Mr on time.

Should i change tittle to Completed?


[ also known as Huawei Technical University, is completed.

Technical University???

:applause: well done Mr on time.

Should i change tittle to Completed?

Technical University???

Definitely, the status must be changed to “completed”. Yes, that is how it is called. But I still need to inquire whether it will function as an institution of higher education or a technical training center.

I still need to inquire whether it will function as an institution of higher education or a technical training center.

I made a little research on it and they just completed another building in Luanda, Angola as of this January. They are also present in Kenya, Uganda, TZ, Nigeria, Tunisia, Egypt , South Africa. Its indeed a Technical Training Center for Tech Transfer.

Nice buildings ! Thanks Pius !

I made a little research on it and they just completed another building in Luanda, Angola as of this January. They are also present in Kenya, Uganda, TZ, Nigeria, Tunisia, Egypt , South Africa. Its indeed a Technical Training Center for Tech Transfer.
I will search it.

I will search it.

http://www.huawei.com/africa/en/catalog.do?id=521

http://www.huawei.com/africa/en/catalog.do?id=521
Thanx, I would like to see their building in SA.

Mission accomplished: the Huawei Training Center, also known as Huawei Technical University, is completed.

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It's beautiful! Hopefully it will be maintained appropriately. By the way, it's not congolese, thank God!

By the way, it's not congolese, thank God!

:lol:I would say, its not Government.

It's beautiful! Hopefully it will be maintained appropriately. By the way, it's not congolese, thank God!
What is wrong with us Congolese? I'm confused are you supporting foreigner investors than local Congolese investors?

congrats !! that is what we need in our african countries technical trainings, new technologies for developing our motherlands!!

Mission accomplished: the Huawei Training Center, also known as Huawei Technical University, is completed.

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What is wrong with congolese? R U kiddin?

What is wrong with us Congolese? I'm confused are you supporting foreigner investors than local Congolese investors?

R U kiddn? Can Congolese broom his own house?

What is wrong with us Congolese? I'm confused are you supporting foreigner investors than local Congolese investors?

you misunderstood.


We have to thank god it is not Congolese State owned, otherwise the building will rot to death due to lack of maintenance like all the filthy un-refurbished state owned buildings.


We all support private Congolese Investors, but a huge wall of pessimism blocks the view when it comes to state owned property due the solid reputation of poor maintenance the state has created in terms of maintaining property.

you misunderstood.


We have to thank god it is not Congolese State owned, otherwise the building will rot to death due to lack of maintenance like all the filthy un-refurbished state owned buildings.


We all support private Congolese Investors, but a huge wall of pessimism blocks the view when it comes to state owned property due the solid reputation of poor maintenance the state has created in terms of maintaining property.

I couldn't say it better! Many thanks, Screenshortartist!
Congolese need to grow up, intellectuals and peasans alike until they are freed from the culture of irresponsibility and lazy minds that has taken hold of them for centuries. They have no idea how to repair a bike, clean their own homes or streets yet they are eager to build towers they can't maintain. It's pitiful to see how they manage their cities even after 50 years of independence and lived in Europe. They love to blame foreigners for their own misery!

you misunderstood.


We have to thank god it is not Congolese State owned, otherwise the building will rot to death due to lack of maintenance like all the filthy un-refurbished state owned buildings.


We all support private Congolese Investors, but a huge wall of pessimism blocks the view when it comes to state owned property due the solid reputation of poor maintenance the state has created in terms of maintaining property.
I didn't MISUNDERSTAND

I agree with anything that has to go with the government or any state-owned shall rise any form of pessimism due to the well-known factors. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be optimistic about the Congolese investors or we should insult and generalize all Congolese as incompetents. Here again, we can come here on the forum and expecting changes, where will changes come? if we are not optimistic about us, Congolese being responsible about investing in the DRC and maintaining our investment. What does that say about oneself, Congolese? It is simple say that you do not have any interest in investing in the DRC since you are generalizing all the Congolese to be incompetent in maintenance of their investment.

There is a big difference between the Congolese STATE (Government) and Congolese PRIVATE.

I agree with what he said. Thankfully, its not a Congolese Government thats heads that project.

I didn't MISUNDERSTAND

I agree with anything that has to go with the government or any state-owned shall rise any form of pessimism due to the well-known factors. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be optimistic about the Congolese investors or we should insult and generalize all Congolese as incompetents. Here again, we can come here on the forum and expecting changes, where will changes come? if we are not optimistic about us, Congolese being responsible about investing in the DRC and maintaining our investment. What does that say about oneself, Congolese? It is simple say that you do not have any interest in investing in the DRC since you are generalizing all the Congolese to be incompetent in maintenance of their investment.

You are speaking in terms generalising Congolese investors and maintaining Congolese investments :ohno:

What everyone is referring to is not the Private Congolese investments which we all admire and encourage but rather the government and state owned complexes which with almost certainty degrade and fall apart due to lack of maintenance and care.

You are speaking in terms generalising Congolese investors and maintaining Congolese investments :ohno:

What everyone is referring to is not the Private Congolese investments which we all admire and encourage but rather the government and state owned complexes which with almost certainty degrade and fall apart due to lack of maintenance and care.
Epaphras is generalizing, read his intervention. Hopefully he reads us and see there is no need to generalize.

Epaphras is generalizing, read his intervention. Hopefully he reads us and see there is no need to generalize.
You either didn't understand him. or he doesn't know what Congolese private sector is capable of.

Inauguration prevue ce Jeudi 25 Mai par JOKA in person...

Le chinois Huawei installe un important centre de formation francophone à Kinshasa

Gratien / mai 20, 2012 / Pas de commentaire

Une vue des nouvelles installations de Huawei à Kinshasa

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Son inauguration intervient dans les tout prochains jours. Il s’agit du premier centre de formation de l’équipementier chinois Huawei ayant comme aire de couverture l’ensemble des pays francophones d’Afrique. C’est un grand complexe ultramoderne sis place de la Gare au centre-ville de Kinshasa. Un important investissement qui a coûté 45 millions de dollars américains.

Il comporte des bureaux, des salles de formation et d’exposition et des logements pour son personnel expatrié. Un complexe truffé d’équipements hi-tech comme cette salle de contrôle équipée de moniteurs pour la dizaine de caméras de surveillance qui couvrent tout le site. Comme aussi cette salle de vidéoconférence dotée de trois immenses écrans plats.

A partir de ce site, Huawei mettra à la disposition des Congolais ses équipements dans le secteur des télécommunications et NTIC. Pour rappel, cette société est, depuis 2010, le deuxième fournisseur mondial en réseaux télécommunications, derrière Ericsson et devant Nokia Siemens Networks, Alcatel-Lucent, Cisco Systems et ZTE.


Le ministre Kin-Kiey Mulumba entouré des responsables de Huawei RDC
Les étudiants (notamment ceux de la faculté de Polytechnique de l’UNIKIN) et les experts congolais et originaires des pays francophones d’Afrique bénéficieront aussi dans ce centre de formation d’un transfert de connaissances et de technologies. Une perspective qui a beaucoup intéressé le ministre congolais des Postes, Téléphone et NTIC, Tryphon Kin-Kiey Mulumba en visite sur les lieux ce dimanche 20 mai 2012. « J’ai été impressionné par la qualité du travail qu’effectuent nos amis chinois ici. Ce complexe va booster tout ce qui se fait jusqu’à présent dans notre pays en matière de télécommunication. Il s’agit d’une contribution remarquable à la réalisation de la révolution de la modernité initiée par le Chef de l’Etat », a reconnu Kin-Kiey Mulumba visiblement satisfait.

Selon l’administrateur de Huawei RDC, ce complexe est l’expression de la volonté de son entreprise de s’installer durablement en RDC. Sur le continent, cinq autres pays abritent des complexes du major chinois des télécommunications. Il s’agit de l’Egypte, du Nigeria, de l’Afrique du Sud, de la Tunisie et de l’Angola.

http://www.mediatic-rdc.net/2012/05/le-chinois-huawei-installe-un-important-centre-de-formation-francophone-a-kinshasa.html

c'est une tres belle initiative!! je crois que si le gouvernement matata fait du climat des affaires une des ses priorités, la rdc connaitra bcp d'investissement de la sorte.
j'aime ce batiment ^^

Cet investissement tranche avec la politique des autres investisseurs du secteur qui consiste à acheter ou louer des villas privées qu’ils convertissent en « sièges sociaux », histoire de maximiser le profit en évitant d’en faire bénéficier le pays hôte. Je trouve les installations de Vodacom scandaleuses quand on sait combien cette compagnie a déjà gagné en RDC depuis la dizaine d’années de présence dans ce pays.

Cet investissement tranche avec la politique des autres investisseurs du secteur qui consiste à acheter ou louer des villas privées qu’ils convertissent en « sièges sociaux », histoire de maximiser le profit en évitant d’en faire bénéficier le pays hôte. Je trouve les installations de Vodacom scandaleuses quand on sait combien cette compagnie a déjà gagné en RDC depuis la dizaine d’années de présence dans ce pays.

Comment sont declarés ces revenus? Du jour au lendemain une villa d'habitation devient un bureau, comment est fait le suivi?

Bravo! This is what is needed, transfer of knowledge. The benefits will be reaped on the long term

inauguration par joka du centre, ce 25 mai

Ce centre sera en mesure de mettre à la disposition des autorités congolaises des infrastructures adéquates pour le recensement de la population, la fabrication des cartes d’identité et le fichier électoral de prochains scrutins.

La coopération bilatérale RDC-Chine se renforce davantage avec l’ouverture à Kinshasa par l’équipementier chinois Huawei du centre régional de formation des experts en télécommunications et Nouvelles technologies de l’information et de la communication (NTIC). Son aire de couverture est l’ensemble des pays francophones d’Afrique.

Le chef de l’Etat, Joseph Kabila Kabange, a coupé, hier vendredi 25 mai à La Place du 30 Juin à Kinshasa/Gombe, le ruban symbolique du Centre régional de formation des experts de la République démocratique du Congo et des pays d’Afrique francophone en télécommunications et NTIC ouvert par la société chinoise Huawei.

Le vice-président supérieur de ce major chinois des télécommunications, Guo Tianmin, a indiqué, dans son discours, que le centre a une capacité d’accueil de 2 000 stagiaires par an.

Huawei, qui a investi 45 millions USD dans ce projet, s’est installé en RDC en 2004, fourni du matériel technologique à 45 opérateurs internationaux dans plus de 140 pays et possède 37 centres de formation dans le monde dont 5 en Afrique (Egypte, Nigeria, Afrique du Sud, Tunisie et Angola).

Sa société est en mesure de mettre à la disposition des autorités congolaises des infrastructures adéquates pour le recensement de la population, la fabrication des cartes d’identité et le fichier électoral de prochains scrutins, a-t-il assuré.

Guo Tianmin a aussi annoncé que les étudiants de l’Université de Kinshasa, particulièrement ceux de la faculté de Polytechnique, et les experts des pays francophones d’Afrique bénéficieront dans ce centre d’ « un transfert de connaissances et de technologies ». Enfin, il a exprimé le souhait de voir ce centre être « l’expression de la volonté de son entreprise de s’installer durablement en RDC ».

Depuis 2010, Huawei est le deuxième fournisseur mondial en réseaux télécommunications, derrière Ericsson et devant Nokia Siemens Networks, Alcatel-Lucent, Cisco Systems et ZTE.

Pour sa part, l’ambassadeur de la République populaire de Chine, Wang Yingwu, a salué «un moment important» et appelé les partenaires extérieurs à la « compréhension » ainsi qu’au « soutien » à la révolution de la modernité de la RDC. Il a souhaité un «bel avenir» à la RDC, en soulignant que «les entreprises chinoises sont disposées à oeuvrer» pour un environnement des affaires convenable.

Interconnexion des services publics

Pour combler le « déficit de communication» tel que «ce qui est fait en RDC n’est pas connu à l’extérieur », le gouvernement congolais a levé l’option d’une « interconnexion de tous les services publics » et décidé de mettre les autoroutes de la communication à la portée de l’ensemble de la population.

L’objectif prioritaire est de déployer le premier tronçon de la fibre optique sur 650 km, a dit dans son discours le ministre des Postes, Télécommunications et NTIC, Tryphon Kin-Kiey Mulumba.

« Ce complexe va booster tout ce qui se fait jusqu’à présent dans notre pays en matière de télécommunication », a-t-il déclaré en substance, en soulignant que c’est « une contribution remarquable à la réalisation de la révolution de la modernité initiée par le chef de l’Etat ».

En effet, le gouvernement congolais est d’avis que le potentiel du secteur des télécommunications et technologies de l’information et de la communication, « au regard de l’étendue du marché et des besoins présents et à venir des entreprises congolaises, reste encore sous-exploité ».

Pour accroître la contribution de ce secteur à la croissance, à l’emploi et au budget de l’Etat, il a prévu dans son programme de «porter, d’ici 2016, la télédensité à 40 lignes de téléphone fixe ou mobile pour 100 habitants ; poser, d’ici 2016, 5000 km de câble de fibre optique sur l’étendue du territoire national (réseau national de fibre optique ou back bone) ; connecter, d’ici 2016, environ 30 millions de lignes fixes et mobiles (réseau métropolitain) ; informatiser l’administration publique et les services spécialisés de l’Etat, ainsi que les postes frontaliers ».

En s’adressant dans son mot de bienvenue au président Joseph Kabila et aux membres du gouvernement conduits par le Premier ministre Augustin Matata Ponyo, le gouverneur de Kinshasa, André Kimbuta, s’est réjoui du fait que «les investisseurs répondent présent à la Révolution de la modernité du président de la République », par la création des emplois.

Le Centre régional de formation des experts de la RDC et des pays d’Afrique francophone en télécommunications et NTIC comprend des bureaux, des salles de formation et d’exposition avec des équipements hi-tech (moniteurs pour la dizaine de caméras de surveillance qui couvrent tout le site, trois immenses écrans plats) ainsi que des logements pour son personnel expatrié.
source: digitalcongo.net

Pour accroître la contribution de ce secteur à la croissance, à l’emploi et au budget de l’Etat, il a prévu dans son programme de «porter, d’ici 2016, la télédensité à 40 lignes de téléphone fixe ou mobile pour 100 habitants ; poser, d’ici 2016, 5000 km de câble de fibre optique sur l’étendue du territoire national (réseau national de fibre optique ou back bone) ; connecter, d’ici 2016, environ 30 millions de lignes fixes et mobiles (réseau métropolitain) ; informatiser l’administration publique et les services spécialisés de l’Etat, ainsi que les postes frontaliers ».

M. Kin-Key en fait des promesses…Si son ministère parvient à réaliser ne fût-ce que la moitié de ce programme, la RDC aura fait un grand bond en avant vers la modernisation. Cependant, à en juger par les péripéties autour de la connexion du pays au réseau international de la fibre optique, on peut dire que le combat n’est pas gagné d’avance. Bon courage malgré tout.

^^^
I think the River will be used to transport the Fiber cable from Kinshasa to Kindu and from Kinshasa to Ilebo (through Bandundu province) and from those locations to others territories and cities through underground. Thats the fastest way to do it.

What you think?

Here is an example.

Blue = By River.

Light Green = By underground.


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^^^
I think the River will be used to transport the Fiber cable from Kinshasa to Kindu and from Kinshasa to Ilebo (through Bandundu province) and from those locations to others territories and cities through underground. Thats the fastest way to do it.

What you think?

I rather think that the next connection (after Muanda and Kinshasa) will be Kinshasa – Ndola (Zambia) through Kikwit, Lubumbashi and Kasumbalesa. This is the so-called “Axe2”.

I rather think that the next connection (after Muanda and Kinshasa) will be Kinshasa – Ndola (Zambia) through Kikwit, Lubumbashi and Kasumbalesa. This is the so-called “Axe2”.

True. I remember that one. However; there is another program to connect all provinces capitals. which according to previous articles ( will try to find it) .

True. I remember that one. However; there is another program to connect all provinces capitals. which according to previous articles ( will try to find it) .

The Congolese information highway is structured as follows:

Axe 1

Muanda – Kinshasa; Kinshasa – Brazzaville – Pointe Noire (Republic of Congo); Muanda – Songololo – Mbanza kongo – Luanda (Angola)

Axe 2

Kinshasa – Bandundu – Mbandaka – Zongo – Bangui (CAR); Kinshasa – Kikwit – Lubumbashi – Kasumbalesa – Ndola (Zambia)

Axe 3

Lubumbashi – Kalemie – Tanzania (under Tanganyika lake) - Kindu – Bukavu – Goma –
Gyseni (Rwanda)

Axe 4
Goma – Kisangani – Sudan; Kisangani - Mbandaka

inauguration en image

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Impatiente de voir le premier téléphone made in Congo. Le pays du Colombite tantalite se doit de le faire....

Impatiente de voir le premier téléphone made in Congo. Le pays du Colombite tantalite se doit de le faire....

Telephone de quelle compagnie?

Telephone de quelle compagnie?

En acquérant la technologie, la RDC devrait être capable de fabriquer des téléphones portables.

En acquérant la technologie, la RDC devrait être capable de fabriquer des téléphones portables.

Ah, d'accord.

Impatiente de voir le premier téléphone made in Congo. Le pays du Colombite tantalite se doit de le faire....

Cela pose le problème de l’industrialisation du pays. Avec un effort accru dans l’amélioration du climat des affaires, nous devrions être capables de rattraper le Nigeria dans une dizaine d’années. Mais aussi longtemps que nos banques resteront faiblement capitalisées et appliqueront une politique de crédit prédatrice, le génie créateur des Congolais restera étouffé. La seule chance de parvenir à résultat satisfaisant en matière d’industrialisation reste la coentreprise. C’est pourquoi, j’estime que la présence d’un géant comme Huawei au Congo est une opportunité que l’Etat et les investisseurs locaux devraient saisir pour matérialiser certaines idées en matière d’industrialisation. Et pourquoi pas lancer le premier téléphone portable congolais ?

J'espère vivement que la RDC puisse adopter le vote électronique, et grâce au centre Hua Wei si les gouvernement le veut, c'est possible.

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