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Henry Chinaski September 3rd, 2004, 12:42 PM Marseille - France
Marseille celebrated its 2600th birthday before the year 2000. It is therefore the oldest town in France. The legend surrounding the origins of the town go back to 600 B.C. Greek sailors coming from Phocaea (Asia Minor) chose to focus their activity in the Lacydon creek - the present location of the Vieux Port. The day they arrived, the leader of the Greeks, Protis made a visit to the Ligure tribe, which had settled there. It just so happened that on that very day, Gyptis, daughter of King Naan was to be married. Gyptis chose Protis as her husband above a number of other suitors - he had also fallen head over heels for her - and thus, Massalia was founded.
Massalia quickly became a successful city thanks to the commercial talent of the Greeks. Trading posts were set up all along the Mediterranean coast, in particular at Agde, Arles and Le Brusc. Massalia's history is one of turbulence and uncertainty. Initially the city went into decline when it was taken over by Rome. Her fleet, treasure and trading posts became the property of Caesar. After the invasions she became a port which was favourable to commercial activity. In the eleventh century, the city began to expand. A vast boatyard came under construction but Marseille quickly fell under the control of Charles d'Anjou. The town also opposed Louis XIV, and was conquered once again. The Fort Saint Nicolas and the Fort Saint Jean were both built. At that time, Massalia was under the control of Colbert who developed the city's infrastructure. Business prospered om an international scale.
Periods of prosperity alternate with times of crisis, and just when Massalia had become a truly international port it was hit by a plague. The Great Plague was a major event during the eighteenth century. The origins of the epidemic were a ship ' Le Grand Saint Antoine. Quarantine was not sufficient, and the plague swept through the town. In May 1720 Marseille was cut off from the rest of Provence. The parliament in Aix forbade any communication with Marseille ' upon pain of death. However the plague continued to spread all the same ' to Aix, Apt, Arles, Toulon, and soon the whole of France was touched by it. The city was not completely wiped out, but it had lost half its population. The revolution was eagerly received. It was in 1792 that the war song, sung by the army of the Rhine and composed by Rouget de Lisle - known as La Marseillaise - became an anthem. Marseille then rebelled against the 'Convention'. As a result she became 'the town with no name' for a few months.
The town was also involved in World War II. At the time she was under the jurisdiction of the central power and districts such as Panier were destroyed. Once the war was over, the port became an important thoroughfare, and the city built hospitals and the metropolitan network.
Today excavations which have been carried out in the Vieux Port area and in the Centre Bourse, have revealed many vestiges of the past. They reveal that this city is a place with an extremely rich and varied history.
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Justme September 3rd, 2004, 01:38 PM More photo's please ;)
This town has such a bad reputation, yet it never looks too bad in photo's.
Still, it seems to lack trees, and for the life of me, I can never tell where the city center is. Does it have a vibrant downtown - one suitable for a city of it's size?
It's public transit is also very limited for a European city of this size.
Why are there so few photo's of this town?
Henry Chinaski September 3rd, 2004, 02:18 PM http://vdelcour.free.fr/images/MArseille%20-%20vieux%20port%20nuit.jpg
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cellete September 3rd, 2004, 02:26 PM 8.5/10
Nice! It reminds me a bit to Barcelona.
Matthieu September 3rd, 2004, 06:50 PM Marseille - France
Marseille celebrated its 2600th birthday before the year 2000. It is therefore the oldest town in France. The legend surrounding the origins of the town go back to 600 B.C.
Nonsense, the city of Toulouse is older and was founded by the first Aquitanian people (related to the Basques and and Etruscans, it is said they were the first settlers in Europe but it's not confirmed and little thing survived from the Aquitanians and Etruscans civilizations) in the 8th century BC. Therefore it's older than Marseille. And soon will reach it's 3000 years (yet we don't know when it was first built so it will be hard to mark it's birthday, I assume Marseille is the oldest city of France and where we have a precise time of its creation).
Aside of this I vote 8.
gun57 September 3rd, 2004, 11:04 PM good idea to open a thread about Marseille and thank you Henry Chinaski for all those photos :)
Euromediterranée, Marseille
One of the largest construction programs in any major European city, with new construction totaling 1.2 million square meters (12.8 million sq. ft) of floor space to be built. This includes :
600,000 sq. m (6,402,000 sq. ft) office space
400,000 sq. m (4,268,000 sq. ft) residential property
200,000 sq. m (1,067,000 sq. ft) retail and leisure space
Euroméditerranée's business district is built around the new high speed train station on Marseille's waterfront. The area has the highest concentration of telecommunications networks in Southern France.
Euroméditerranée will favor the emergence of a major metropolitan area within a Mediterranean region committed to shared prosperity. The free-trade area (EU + Northern Africa) to result in 2010 will have a combined population of 500 million.
the distric
http://www.cosmostreet.fr/mag/ph/img/c2_ph_p132A_G.jpg
some projected buildings
http://www.euromediterranee.fr/medias/dynamique/operations/D3.jpg
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Saint-Charles TGV Station
http://www.euromediterranee.fr/medias/dynamique/operations/pole_multimodal_v.hugo.jpg
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Marseille tramway
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maritime station
http://www.euromediterranee.fr/medias/dynamique/operations/Vueblvd.jpg
Esplanade de la Major
http://www.euromediterranee.fr/medias/dynamique/operations/vue_aerienne.jpg
http://www.euromediterranee.fr/medias/dynamique/operations/vue_de_nuit.jpg
the new waterfront
http://www.euromediterranee.fr/medias/dynamique/operations/persp_J4.jpg
Marseille is becoming a modern mediterranean metropolis
Matthieu September 3rd, 2004, 11:07 PM I love the face the south France is taking. Hope it will continue :) after Sofia Antipolis, now Euromediteranée, what will the next?
pawsum September 4th, 2004, 12:05 AM From the aerial shots, it looks more Greek than French. Either way, it looks very vibrant and intriguing. I agree with cellete in that it does indeed bear striking similarities to Barcelona from some angles. How can that be bad?!!!
Nick in Atlanta September 8th, 2004, 01:14 AM The collection of pictures is very strange! Some look like post cards, there is a satellite photo thrown in for good measure and even a map. The city, from what I can tell is not that attractive, especially for France and especially for being on the Mediterannean.
That idea of a EU-North African free trade zone sounds bad. Besides Libyan oil, what exactly is there to trade with the Maghreb countries.
PS: I vote 4/10.
therock September 9th, 2004, 07:42 PM And the skyline?
4/10!
SeeMacau September 12th, 2004, 05:00 AM Nice city indeed but where is the skyline ?? 5/10
Henry Chinaski September 12th, 2004, 02:26 PM You don't need skyscrapers to have a skyline.
In many threads church towers or other landmarks are even more beautiful skylines
Even if the tall buildings are not grouped, every city has a skyline !
ROYU September 12th, 2004, 03:22 PM is good but I think it is a littled boring. 7.5
Henry Chinaski September 12th, 2004, 03:32 PM http://aix-marseille.wireless-fr.org/images/panorama1_web.jpg
http://aix-marseille.wireless-fr.org/images/panorama2_web.jpg
Marseille-3D-http://www.marseillenet.com/
B@dGuYoM December 6th, 2004, 01:46 PM Good
SoboleuS April 8th, 2005, 01:35 PM The city looks good, but its skyline isn't impressive. 6/10
MattSal April 8th, 2005, 01:48 PM A bad skyline for a city of its size. I give it a 6/10. :(
james2390 April 8th, 2005, 08:28 PM You don't need skyscrapers to have a skyline.
In many threads church towers or other landmarks are even more beautiful skylines
Even if the tall buildings are not grouped, every city has a skyline
Well, chances are, if you come to a skyscraper forum, people are going to want skyscrapers.:|
The skyline is quite boring, but it has potential.
Ning April 8th, 2005, 09:32 PM Even if it's the 3rd largest city of France, I really hate Marseille. It's ugly, it doesn't look french at all, it looks as if it was a poor and dirty north african city. Nothing seems to be modern there. I prefere Nice or Menton in the french riviera. The Euromediterranée business district project might change my mind though in the next years if it's sucessful.
marpa October 30th, 2005, 11:43 PM Marseilles bewitches ... skyline however it presents average
7,5 / 10
El_Greco October 31st, 2005, 03:44 AM 8/10
Blue_Sky November 2nd, 2005, 04:44 AM 6.0/10
ChiLooper November 2nd, 2005, 02:32 PM 6.5/10
Harkeb November 18th, 2005, 04:02 AM 1.5. It looks so OLD. An ancient city. Definitely not Paris!
forvine March 22nd, 2006, 07:42 PM 6/10
Sinjin P. May 29th, 2006, 12:16 PM 6/10
alejoaoa August 15th, 2006, 03:48 AM 8/10
Æsahættr August 15th, 2006, 05:58 AM 5/10
It is very quaint though.. it was also featured in Taxi 3
LMCA1990 August 15th, 2006, 07:34 AM 8/10- nice density and it looks abit like athens. it needs a few talls though.
cffuny August 16th, 2006, 02:50 AM 6/10 TAXI!!:):)
Nouvellecosse August 16th, 2006, 03:28 AM Looks like a wonderful - and extremely dense - city, but not much of a (highrise) skyline. 3.5
Skoulikimou August 16th, 2006, 04:16 AM lovely city
7/10 ;)
Medo August 16th, 2006, 04:17 AM 7.5/10
Pelha September 1st, 2006, 04:35 AM 7/10
ZZ-II June 28th, 2007, 10:33 PM 8.5/10, great city
Brad October 29th, 2007, 03:19 PM i like the city
7
Skyman October 31st, 2007, 07:35 AM Good city 7/10
Kailyas January 11th, 2008, 05:05 AM 7/10
arno-13 July 17th, 2008, 08:00 PM Some picks of Marseilles with the some part of her skyline
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Filipe_Teixeira July 18th, 2008, 01:37 PM 4/10
Miguel_Prat July 20th, 2008, 01:18 AM 8/10
Brisbaner21 July 20th, 2008, 02:07 AM 7/10. Those new renderings going to happen?
W!CKED July 26th, 2008, 12:01 AM 9/|0
pierretoulouse August 2nd, 2008, 09:19 AM Great pics not a great skyline for the moment but getting better with new constructions.
Brisbaner21, Yes they are normaly going to happen and the tallest tower on the left is in construction and already over 30 floors. :)
Kaiser August 2nd, 2008, 10:40 AM Nothing special like Paris.
christos-greece August 2nd, 2008, 11:27 AM 7/10 :)
rübenzahn August 3rd, 2008, 03:14 PM 8/10 I like it, density and nice old architecture.
fantasia59 October 15th, 2008, 03:31 PM marveless !!!!
very very nice city
9,5/10
like san francisco, or barcelona
sieradzanin1 October 15th, 2008, 04:01 PM 8/10
Boribel October 15th, 2008, 04:01 PM In France Marseille is considered as one of the worst city to live. There is a lot of unemployment, and the city is now full of north african people.
I put 5/10, because it looks more like a city from the third world. And it is.
Nout October 15th, 2008, 10:32 PM Very nice pictures. Good density. No scrapers, but i m impressed. 6/10
Kawasaki KG December 9th, 2008, 11:04 AM 4/10
Kawasaki KG December 9th, 2008, 11:07 AM http://i36.tinypic.com/346vssz.jpg
arno-13 December 9th, 2008, 09:57 PM The people who said that marseilles is like third world city are just ignorants and retarded .
Marseilles is the place where a lot of world's organisations have their HQ. Marseille is the HQ of the CMA/CGM the third shipping compagny in the world.
Marseilles is a major city in the domain of the health with an important level of research in cardiology or for the AIDS.
The next generation of nuclear reactors experimentation will be installed next to the city (ITER program) ETC.
After , say that a city is a third world city because , it doesn't have (yet) impressive skyline (exept two/three buildings) show the stupidity of some people (but you can rate 3/10 for the skyline it's different , that's juste your opinion). Anyway , this point is gonna change
Marseilles is a multiculutral city because it's the port where a lot of immigrants used to come from magreb on the 60'S when the city needed to be rebuilt. So there is a lot diversity and I don't see what's the problem with it . So maybe the city has a bigger part of poor population than other cities , but that's not huge compared to other cities.
And Marseille is not the best looking city in the world , but it's stay had a lot of charm , beauty ,and life , it's a vibrant city.
To finish Marseille is the Européan capital's city of the culture for 2013
Hope people will stop to judge wihout had seen , hope to see you in marseilles soon ! :lol:
romanito December 9th, 2008, 10:26 PM 6/10
thoju75 December 10th, 2008, 03:21 PM In France Marseille is considered as one of the worst city to live. There is a lot of unemployment, and the city is now full of north african people.
I put 5/10, because it looks more like a city from the third world. And it is.
:weird: Qu'est qu'il faut pas entendre comme c***** parfois....
If the 3rd world was like Marseille, the world would have less problem I think...
Amuse2000 December 10th, 2008, 03:28 PM marseille looks great, 7/10
DidacXavier December 21st, 2008, 02:55 PM 2/10
What a ugly city, without skyline.
tonyssa May 16th, 2009, 10:03 PM 6/10
Srdjan Adamovic May 17th, 2009, 01:38 PM 4/10
henry hill July 6th, 2009, 04:28 PM 6/10
c6josh August 15th, 2009, 02:31 PM 7/10 architecture though is great
Jan Del Castillo October 28th, 2009, 09:49 AM 8. Good. Regards.
Heroico October 29th, 2009, 03:48 AM 7.5/10
KAZAN RESIDENT October 29th, 2009, 08:56 AM 8/10
nenad_kgdc October 29th, 2009, 12:06 PM 8/10
samuelsamario October 29th, 2009, 07:19 PM 8/10
Geocarlos December 6th, 2010, 06:31 PM 7/10
South Central December 6th, 2010, 06:52 PM http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7445/51353200.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3387/44508335.jpg
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South Central December 6th, 2010, 06:53 PM >>>
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2639/49566853.jpg
Axelferis December 6th, 2010, 07:21 PM i love the new tower
6.5/10
Nikkodemo December 7th, 2010, 06:08 PM 7/10
èđđeůx December 8th, 2010, 05:07 AM Height: 3
Architecture: 8
density: 8.5
Final score: 6.5
RokasLT December 25th, 2010, 03:02 PM for one taller then 100 m building u giving 8 points are u nuts?!
khoojyh December 31st, 2010, 07:03 PM 8/10
RokasLT January 1st, 2011, 03:48 PM yhea :D
mossimoh April 26th, 2011, 10:09 PM 5/10
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