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geoff_diamond
June 17th, 2005, 04:00 AM
Well, it's tomorrow!!!

ThirdCoast312
June 17th, 2005, 06:03 AM
perhaps Butler,Jeanne, and Mark are out late

BVictor1
June 17th, 2005, 06:37 AM
Okay, well I went to the Studio/Gang Architects offices today. First, and I can't believe that I'm actually saying this, but I must thank Mr. Lowenberg, because he's the one who picked Studio Gang, they didn't approach him.

I got a chance to look at the project, and it was explaind to me by one of the architects. Unfortunately, I can not tell you all of the details that this time. I was asked to keep the design on the DL, and I told them that I would keep my mouth shut about the design. I will tell you thought that you will be extremely pleased. The design is quite promising. It will be tall, I already told you that it would be about 80-stories, but I can't give you the exact height yet, but i'm sure that you all know how to guestimate. The tower will be north of BCBS.

You all won't have to wait that long for more information. This is the next building that will be released. I was told that I would be kept up-to-date on the building. They also said, that they wouldn't mind going a bit taller. Also they might set up an interview between myself and James Lowenberg, that should be interesting..... I'll let you know more about that, if and when it happens, so that I can get some imput.

Other than that, as I said, you will, I think, like the design, but that's all that I can say at the moment. When I get permission to leak more information, I will.

Latoso
June 17th, 2005, 06:55 AM
Thanks BVictor. You're our own personal Deep Throat! lol

BVictor1
June 17th, 2005, 07:32 AM
Thanks BVictor. You're our own personal Deep Throat! lol

Oh-My-God, that's exactly what my former professor said. I take it all in stride, I'm having a blast doing all of this stuff.

Chi_Coruscant
June 17th, 2005, 12:45 PM
You all won't have to wait that long for more information.

When will it be?

BVictor1
June 17th, 2005, 01:46 PM
When will it be?


Couple of months. They're still in the design stages. There is no rendering available yet.

Chi_Coruscant
June 17th, 2005, 03:48 PM
Couple of months? *groan*

I have to wait for the renderings of Calatrava, Mandarin Oriental, and this Gang.

I don't think I have few more months to live. :jk:

BTW, you never cease to amaze me with your sleuth works. Keep it up.

The Urban Politician
June 17th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Damn, BV--you upped the ante again.

I wish I did what I loved for a living, like you apparantly do :)

kayosthery
June 18th, 2005, 04:08 AM
If the rumors are true around the job sites, McHugh (construction company) will be building the 80 storey building BVic is referring to. Although it is still being called a 76-77 storey around here.

Chi_Coruscant
June 18th, 2005, 06:18 AM
I am wondering if the 80-story tower starts at upper street level or pit level? The height from pit level to upper street level is 100 ft. For instance, BCBSIL building lists at 511ft at the pit level and 411 ft at the upper Randolph level.
If that is a case, we are looking at the tower's height which starts at pit level including mechanical floor and/or tower headcrown at potentially 925 ft tall. Of course, the spire is not included.

The Urban Politician
June 18th, 2005, 07:29 PM
June 17, 2005
Chandler opens in Lakeshore East
The developers of Lakeshore East opened sales for the Chandler – the fifth new highrise to be announced in the $4 billion mixed-use community – just as the first tower to be completed there reached the 98 percent sold mark.

Magellan Development Group and NNP Residential & Development have begun selling condos at the planned 286-unit tower with residences priced from the $190s for a 582-square-foot studio to $1.7 million for a 3,215-square-foot three-bedroom.

The centerpiece of the 35-story Chandler is the Shore Club, which features a fitness facility with an indoor rooftop pool, two landscaped rooftop decks, a private party room and a media room. The building also will have 10,000 square feet of retail space and indoor parking.

The Chandler is scheduled for completion in 2007, while construction on the nearly sold-out Lancaster was completed in December of 2004.

The massive new community sits between Randolph and Wacker west of Lake Shore Drive, on 28 acres of Illinois Center land. Eventually, Lakeshore East will include nearly 5,000 homes as well as a new elementary school, 770,000 square feet of retail space and 1,500 hotel rooms in what’s being billed by development partners Magellan Development Group and Near North Properties as a “village within the city.” The six-acre park at the center of the development was recently completed and has wireless Internet access.

The four remaining Lancaster units include one- and two-bedroom floor plans and a duplex penthouse, priced from the $430s to the $900s. The building has 24-hour door staff, indoor parking, a fitness center, a rooftop sun deck and a party room.

Other current Lakeshore East projects include the Regatta, a 44-story condominium tower slated for completion in mid-2006; the Shoreham, a 550-unit apartment tower that will be completed in April 2005; and 340 on the Park, a 348-unit condominium building developed by LR Development in a joint venture with Magellan Development Group and NNP Residential & Development.

Benefiting from interest in other towers and the new community in general, the Chandler already has strong momentum, according to Joel Carlins, president of Magellan Development Group.

“The market’s response to the Lakeshore East community has been overwhelming,” Carlins said. “Our waiting list for The Chandler reached 400 before we even began marketing.”

Loewenberg & Associates is the managing architectural firm, with building design by DeStefano & Partners and interior design by Robert Pope Associates. In keeping with the modern look of the Lancaster, the Chandler
will feature a glass-heavy façade with a graceful curve and a segmented design that breaks up the building’s scale.

The Parkhomes, low-rise housing surrounding the central park, are expected to be announced soon at Lakeshore East, www.LakeshoreEast.com.

geoff_diamond
June 19th, 2005, 03:06 AM
the Shoreham, a 550-unit apartment tower that will be completed in April 2005

Not sure why they're referring to April as if it were the future, given that this articule is, supposedly, from yesterday. At any rate, if April was their target, they missed it pretty badly. I was just at the site yesterday and they're still not complete with the southwest corner of the building (it lacks any type of glass or facade treatment for about half of the vertical rise).

BVictor1
June 19th, 2005, 05:58 AM
Speaking of The Chandler and Lakeshore East, I took a stroll into the sales center today, and I got confirmation that the school has been removed from the park. It will be placed in the nook between The Shoreham and The Lancaster. The Chandler is already 70% sold


I am wondering if the 80-story tower starts at upper street level or pit level? The height from pit level to upper street level is 100 ft. For instance, BCBSIL building lists at 511ft at the pit level and 411 ft at the upper Randolph level.
If that is a case, we are looking at the tower's height which starts at pit level including mechanical floor and/or tower headcrown at potentially 925 ft tall. Of course, the spire is not included.

The floor count starts from upper Columbus and that's where the measured height that counts is taken from.

2PRUROCKS!
June 19th, 2005, 06:53 AM
"If that is a case, we are looking at the tower's height which starts at pit level including mechanical floor and/or tower headcrown at potentially 925 ft tall. Of course, the spire is not included."


Chi_Coruscant,

Where did you get this height figure and spire idea? BVictor hasn't told us anything yet.

Chi_Coruscant
June 19th, 2005, 07:10 AM
BVictor: 70% sold at the Chandler? Amazing! Hope the construction starts this year.

2PRUROCKS: I was just doing the numbers game on the height of Gang design. For instance, 100ft (pit level to upper street level) plus 800 ft (80 storys *10ft/story) plus 25 ft (mechanical floors and/or headcrown). That's how I come up as 925 ft tall. Of course, I could be wrong.

geoff_diamond
June 19th, 2005, 07:50 AM
I think it's a pretty reasonable way to guesstimate.

Frumie
June 19th, 2005, 04:56 PM
Speaking of The Chandler and Lakeshore East, I took a stroll into the sales center today, and I got confirmation that the school has been removed from the park. It will be placed in the nook between The Shoreham and The Lancaster.
The school placement should add to the overall streetscape integrity while leaving the park and site "uncluttered." Cool move.

BVictor1
June 20th, 2005, 10:00 AM
Here is what the model for The Chandler looks like. I took these photos Saturday afternoon.

The northern facade.
http://img298.echo.cx/img298/6450/p10004950rn.jpg

Looking west.
http://img298.echo.cx/img298/4350/p10004968qd.jpg

Looking northwest. I hadn't noticed it before, but it looks as if there will be a secondary small park between the eastern set of buildings.
http://img298.echo.cx/img298/6396/p10004974bu.jpg

The southern facade.
http://img298.echo.cx/img298/2628/p10004984ky.jpg

There is a 35th floor amenities level that has a swimming pool. Also the height for this building is going to be quite wierd, because it's going to be measured from the upper levels, so while visually it will seem to be shorter than The Shoreham, technically it might be taller, because The Shoreham is measured from the park level.

Chi_Coruscant
June 20th, 2005, 12:34 PM
Great shots of the Chandler, BVictor! I notice, in 3rd pix which is "looking northwest", there is a row of townhouse. Is that the Parkhomes? Looks like they are the next items after the Chandler.

geoff_diamond
June 22nd, 2005, 08:23 AM
Is that the Regatta in the background of the third pic? If so, it's a helluva lot taller than I thought it'd be!

BVictor1
June 22nd, 2005, 12:35 PM
Great shots of the Chandler, BVictor! I notice, in 3rd pix which is "looking northwest", there is a row of townhouse. Is that the Parkhomes? Looks like they are the next items after the Chandler.

Yes, the those townhouses are the parkhomes, they've been taken off of the market for now though, the interiors are being redesigned, or so I was told. I think that the exteriors will remain unchanged.

Is that the Regatta in the background of the third pic? If so, it's a helluva lot taller than I thought it'd be!

Yeah, that's The Regatta.

Chi_Coruscant
July 8th, 2005, 03:07 AM
(www.lakeshoreeast.com)
For Immediate Release
July 5, 2005

For More Information
Tricia Van Horn, 312/943-2100
Sharon Kotas, 312/943-2100
Larry Schaffel, 2312/642-8869


MAYOR DALEY TO HEAD DELEGATION AT JULY 16
DEDICATION OF PARK AT LAKESHORE EAST

Mayor Richard M. Daley will head a delegation of city officials and community leaders formally dedicating the celebrated park at Lakeshore East Saturday morning, July 16.

Joining Mayor Daley on the podium will be Alderman Burton F. Natarus and Timothy J. Mitchell, superintendent and CEO of the Chicago Park District.

The public is invited to the 10 a.m. ceremony, which will be followed by a variety of activities including plant and herbal demonstrations, yoga and tai chi performances and tours of the multi-faceted park conducted by Master Gardeners of the University of Chicago.

The only public park ever developed by private enterprise in Chicago, the 6-acre park was recently added to the Office of Special Events’ 2005 list of Great Chicago Places and Spaces.

The park, designed by distinguished landscape architect James Burnett in collaboration with Ernie Wong and Chicago-based Site Design Group, is the centerpiece of the 28-acre Lakeshore East and was conceived as the front yard for the thousands of people who will be living and working in a neighborhood that is fast becoming one of the city’s crown jewels.

The largest of multiple planned landscaped areas with strong connections to the neighborhood's waterfront environment at the juncture of Lake Michigan and the Chicago River, the park features a colorful, enclosed children’s playground, a fenced dog park, numerous cascading fountains, and extensive seating. The nautical theme created by Lakeshore East co-developers Magellan Development Group and NNP Residential & Development also pays tribute to the fact that the site of the community once was actually a thriving port in the city’s evolution.

A botanical garden showcases more than 100 species of annual and perennial plants as well as 500 trees of 20 varieties. Visitors to the dedication ceremony will receive botanical guides that identify the gallery of plant life.

Though it won't be evident during the event, at night meticulously designed illumination highlights the park's winding pathways and impressive grand staircase entry from Randolph Street with backlighting that adds a mystical glow to the waters flowing
through what ultimately serves as a peaceful urban oasis.

Ideally situated steps from Michigan Avenue, Lakeshore East is believed to be the largest parcel of downtown land under development in a major U.S. city. This $4 billion mixed-use development in the rapidly growing New East Side incorporates all the elements of a traditional city neighborhood, including homes, retail, recreational opportunities and community amenities such as a planned public elementary school just north of the city’s acclaimed new Millennium Park.

With completion still eight to 10 years away, Lakeshore East already has received several awards, including a National Honor Award for excellence in urban design from the American Institute of Architects (AIA) for its master plan.

Prior to its transformation to the most vibrant new community in Chicago, the Lakeshore East site has served as a transshipment port serving Chicago’s growing economy in the mid 19th century, an Illinois Central railroad freight yard and terminus and, most recently, a par-3, nine-hole urban golf course.

The Lakeshore East plan allows for the construction of up to 4,950 residences, a magnificent 6-acre public park, 2.2 million gross square feet of commercial space, 1,500 hotel rooms, 770,000 square feet of retail space and a proposed 400-student public school. Phase I — which includes construction of roadways, utilities, infrastructure and initial residential buildings — is nearing completion. The developers will maintain ownership and design influence of all 28 acres to ensure a unified vision as Lakeshore East unfolds.
Residential developments at Lakeshore East currently include The Lancaster, the community's first completed condominium building, a 29-story building now substantially occupied; The Shoreham, a 46-story apartment tower nearing completion and partially occupied; The Regatta, a 44-story condominium building, also under construction; and 340 On The Park, a 62-story condominium tower under construction.

Pre-construction sales are now under way for The Chandler; a 35-story condominium building that will provide 286 more condominium homes. And the much-anticipated Parkhomes at Lakeshore East, bordering the new public park, are expected to be brought to market soon. All are experiencing an outstanding market response, reports the developer.

The entry to the park is from upper Randolph Street at Field Blvd., two stop signs east of Michigan Avenue. For additional information, about the park dedication, please telephone 312-943-2100, ext. 405, or visit the Web site, www.Lakeshoreeast.com.

Chi_Coruscant
July 8th, 2005, 03:09 AM
The Markets at Lakeshore East - Sunday, July 17, 2005
Join Alderman Burton F. Natarus as he commemorates the new Markets at Lakeshore East, located on Park Drive, in the Southwest Corner
of the Park at Lakeshore East.

And join us every Sunday from 8:00 am -1:00 pm throughout the summer. Come show your support and keep this exciting outdoor marketplace open all summer long!

For more information call 312.440.8500 ext. 380

(www.lakeshoreeast.com)

Chad
July 8th, 2005, 03:12 AM
Damn!, The Regatta looks way taller than it looks like in the rendition!

BVictor1
July 8th, 2005, 01:41 PM
(www.lakeshoreeast.com)
For Immediate Release
July 5, 2005

For More Information
Tricia Van Horn, 312/943-2100
Sharon Kotas, 312/943-2100
Larry Schaffel, 2312/642-8869


MAYOR DALEY TO HEAD DELEGATION AT JULY 16
DEDICATION OF PARK AT LAKESHORE EAST

Mayor Richard M. Daley will head a delegation of city officials and community leaders formally dedicating the celebrated park at Lakeshore East Saturday morning, July 16.

Joining Mayor Daley on the podium will be Alderman Burton F. Natarus and Timothy J. Mitchell, superintendent and CEO of the Chicago Park District.

The public is invited to the 10 a.m. ceremony, which will be followed by a variety of activities including plant and herbal demonstrations, yoga and tai chi performances and tours of the multi-faceted park conducted by Master Gardeners of the University of Chicago.

The only public park ever developed by private enterprise in Chicago, the 6-acre park was recently added to the Office of Special Events’ 2005 list of Great Chicago Places and Spaces.

The park, designed by distinguished landscape architect James Burnett in collaboration with Ernie Wong and Chicago-based Site Design Group, is the centerpiece of the 28-acre Lakeshore East and was conceived as the front yard for the thousands of people who will be living and working in a neighborhood that is fast becoming one of the city’s crown jewels.

The largest of multiple planned landscaped areas with strong connections to the neighborhood's waterfront environment at the juncture of Lake Michigan and the Chicago River, the park features a colorful, enclosed children’s playground, a fenced dog park, numerous cascading fountains, and extensive seating. The nautical theme created by Lakeshore East co-developers Magellan Development Group and NNP Residential & Development also pays tribute to the fact that the site of the community once was actually a thriving port in the city’s evolution.

A botanical garden showcases more than 100 species of annual and perennial plants as well as 500 trees of 20 varieties. Visitors to the dedication ceremony will receive botanical guides that identify the gallery of plant life.

Though it won't be evident during the event, at night meticulously designed illumination highlights the park's winding pathways and impressive grand staircase entry from Randolph Street with backlighting that adds a mystical glow to the waters flowing
through what ultimately serves as a peaceful urban oasis.

Ideally situated steps from Michigan Avenue, Lakeshore East is believed to be the largest parcel of downtown land under development in a major U.S. city. This $4 billion mixed-use development in the rapidly growing New East Side incorporates all the elements of a traditional city neighborhood, including homes, retail, recreational opportunities and community amenities such as a planned public elementary school just north of the city’s acclaimed new Millennium Park.

With completion still eight to 10 years away, Lakeshore East already has received several awards, including a National Honor Award for excellence in urban design from the American Institute of Architects (AIA) for its master plan.

Prior to its transformation to the most vibrant new community in Chicago, the Lakeshore East site has served as a transshipment port serving Chicago’s growing economy in the mid 19th century, an Illinois Central railroad freight yard and terminus and, most recently, a par-3, nine-hole urban golf course.

The Lakeshore East plan allows for the construction of up to 4,950 residences, a magnificent 6-acre public park, 2.2 million gross square feet of commercial space, 1,500 hotel rooms, 770,000 square feet of retail space and a proposed 400-student public school. Phase I — which includes construction of roadways, utilities, infrastructure and initial residential buildings — is nearing completion. The developers will maintain ownership and design influence of all 28 acres to ensure a unified vision as Lakeshore East unfolds.
Residential developments at Lakeshore East currently include The Lancaster, the community's first completed condominium building, a 29-story building now substantially occupied; The Shoreham, a 46-story apartment tower nearing completion and partially occupied; The Regatta, a 44-story condominium building, also under construction; and 340 On The Park, a 62-story condominium tower under construction.

Pre-construction sales are now under way for The Chandler; a 35-story condominium building that will provide 286 more condominium homes. And the much-anticipated Parkhomes at Lakeshore East, bordering the new public park, are expected to be brought to market soon. All are experiencing an outstanding market response, reports the developer.

The entry to the park is from upper Randolph Street at Field Blvd., two stop signs east of Michigan Avenue. For additional information, about the park dedication, please telephone 312-943-2100, ext. 405, or visit the Web site, www.Lakeshoreeast.com.


So basically this dedication is one year to the day of the dedication of Millennium Park...

The core of 340 on the Park should be popping up over upper Randolph within the next couple of weeks.

ChicagoLover
July 8th, 2005, 02:50 PM
I can't seem to find any good pictures of this park. Also, is it true that the "Market" is opening soon? I thought that wasn't yet online... And how in the world are they going to justify the surely neotraditional style of the parkhomes in this setting? Man I wish they would be creative with the parkhomes.

BVictor1
July 8th, 2005, 05:39 PM
I can't seem to find any good pictures of this park. Also, is it true that the "Market" is opening soon? I thought that wasn't yet online... And how in the world are they going to justify the surely neotraditional style of the parkhomes in this setting? Man I wish they would be creative with the parkhomes.

There's nothing wrong with the design of the Parkhomes.
http://www.lakeshoreeast.com/images/images_res-parkhomes.jpg

BVictor1
July 10th, 2005, 05:37 AM
I took these photos of the park a little more than a month ago.

Looking up the Grand Staircase.
http://img30.echo.cx/img30/1336/p10002261qf.jpg

http://img30.echo.cx/img30/9743/p10002277ox.jpg

Looking east across one of the water features.
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4923/p10002285nu.jpg

When you got to go, you got to go...
http://img36.echo.cx/img36/4992/p10002298ht.jpg

http://img36.echo.cx/img36/4651/p10002308wm.jpg

The one of the waterfeatures.
http://img36.echo.cx/img36/1108/p10002317cr.jpg

Looking southwest across the park from between The Lancaster and The Shoreham.
http://img172.echo.cx/img172/893/p10002348lb.jpg

A scattering of evergreens located throughout the park.
http://img172.echo.cx/img172/9847/p10002359ot.jpg

BVictor1
July 10th, 2005, 01:06 PM
APARTMENT HUNT
A brand-new tower in a growing enclave

By Annemarie Mannion
Special to the Tribune
Published July 10, 2005

Have you ever wanted to reap the benefits of being a pioneer in an emerging neighborhood? Try Lakeshore East.

Though you certainly won't find the rock-bottom prices that risk-takers did in Lincoln Park 30 to 40 years ago, you won't have to worry about tearing out walls and rehabbing, either.

Further, you can test the waters without buying because the second building to open there is the Shoreham at Lakeshore East, a 548-unit apartment tower. Though it's scheduled to be completed in September, it already has 100 tenants, according to management.

The 46-story building with a cream-colored concrete facade is among a number of residential buildings, most of them condominiums, planned or under construction in the 28-acre development that's bounded by East Wacker Drive, Randolph Street, Columbus Drive and Lake Shore Drive. Plans for the area also include houses and townhouses.

It appears that the only struggle pioneering residents may have is getting to a supermarket, though the Treasure Island at 680 N. Lake Shore Drive, Fox & Obel at 401 E. Illinois St., and a Jewel at State Street and Grand Avenue are less than a mile away. Retail is planned later for Lakeshore East.

The building is next to a condominium tower under construction. Both overlook a 6-acre park being dedicated to the city this month.

Seen from the Shoreham, the park has emerald green spaces in the shape of the sails, reflecting its proximity to Lake Michigan.

The water and beach theme extends to the apartment building, whose wood-paneled lobby has comfortable, aqua-colored chairs, and an aqua and marine blue rug.

The 16th-floor club level offers an outdoor pool and deck, two whirlpool tubs, a fitness center, business/conference center and a game room. The pool and fitness center are completed, and finishing touches are being put on the other facilities.

If you'd rather stay in your apartment, rent for all units includes high-speed Internet access and satellite television.

The one-bedroom apartment we visited is on the 12th floor. Floor-to-ceiling windows and a sliding glass door offer a view.

The front door opens into a beige-carpeted entry hallway with two closets. The one on the left contains a full-size, stacked washer and dryer, while at right is a coat closet. Both have almond-colored doors with brushed nickel pulls.

The hallway leads past the kitchen into the 13-by-13-foot living/dining room, where a sliding glass door fills one wall and provides the pioneering view of the park with glimpses of boats in the harbor and the Adler Planetarium in the distance.

Other units have views of the Chicago River and the lake.

Beyond the glass slider is a balcony large enough to contain a couple of chairs and a small table.

The living/dining room is separated from the kitchen by a maple island topped by a black granite counter with shades of green and gray. The floor is a taupe ceramic tile.

Other apartments have kitchens with a maple island, a white granite countertop with tones of black and gray and a gray ceramic tile floor. The color schemes alternate by floor. Kitchens have ivory-colored appliances, including a dishwasher.

The dining area, though not delineated, could be set up traditionally with a small table and chairs or, to maximize space, a couple of stools at the counter.

A short hallway leads to the bedroom on the left, a large walk-in closet on the right and ends at the bathroom.

The bedroom is about 12 feet square, has a double closet and a floor-to-ceiling window with views similar to the living room's.

The bathroom has a taupe ceramic tile floor, a maple vanity with a white, cultured marble counter, a tri-door mirrored medicine chest, a linen closet and a white tub/shower.

Rents, which include high-speed Internet access, are:

$1,082 to 1,245 for a studio;

$1,317 to $1,538 for convertibles;

$1,466 to $1,845 for a one-bedrooms with one bath;

$1,718 to $2,170 for a one-bedroom with 1 1/2 baths; and

$2,350 to $2,608 for two-bedroom, two-bath units.

Shoreham residents can apply up to 25 percent of their rent toward up to 2 1/2 percent of the purchase price of a condo at participating developments at Lakeshore East.

One of the planned condo buildings, the Lancaster, is nearly sold out and buyers are moving in.

Another condo tower, the Chandler, is being marketed, priced from $192,000 for a 582-square-foot studio to $1.7 million for a 3,215-square-foot three-bedroom.

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The vital stats

Address: The Shoreham at Lakeshore East (left in photo), 400 E. South Water St. Chicago

Size: One bedroom, one bath

Rent: $1,512

Security deposit: None. There is a $400 non-refundable move-in fee, but the building is offering a discount to $200.

Utilities: Resident pays electricity, including heat and air conditioning.

Parking: Space in an attached garage is $200 a month.

Pets: A $500 non-refundable fee for dogs up to 25 pounds; a $250 non-refundable fee for up to two cats.

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For rental information, call 312-540-0400.

BVictor1
July 17th, 2005, 01:36 PM
Life by the shore

July 17, 2005

BY CELESTE BUSK Real Estate Reporter


Wireless access in the nearby park and clubroom, air-conditioning and satellite TV costs included in the rent were several of the bottom-line lures for Sheer Eisner, who recently moved into to her new apartment at the Shoreham, a 46-story skyscraper in Chicago's new Lakeshore East neighborhood.

For the last four years, Eisner has been dreaming of moving to a metropolitan city.

"I've always wanted to live in a big city," said the 27-year-old from Coral Springs, Fla. "So, I've been searching for a place to live on the Internet."

What Eisner ended up discovering online was the 548-unit Shoreham, part of Lakeshore East, a sprawling community rising where the Chicago River meets Lake Michigan. The 28-acre development -- bounded roughly by Lake Shore Drive, the Chicago River (Wacker) and Randolph -- is expected to bring as many as 4,950 new residences to the downtown lakefront location over the next eight to 10 years.

Developed by the Magellan Development Group Ltd. and NNP Residential & Development, Lakeshore East is one of the largest central-city urban developments being built in any major city the nation. In addition to the Shoreham, plans also include several condominium towers: the Lancaster, a 29-story building and the Regatta, a 44-story property (under construction). Plans are also under way by the team for the Chandler, a 35-story tower. Also included is a 62-story condominium building, 340 on the Park, being built by LR Development.

Phase I, which includes construction of roadways, utilities, infrastructure and initial residential buildings, is nearing completion. Co-developers Magellan and NNP will maintain ownership and design influence of all 28 acres to ensure a unified vision as Lakeshore East unfolds.

Additional plans at Lakeshore East include: 2.2 million square feet of commercial space; 1,500 hotel rooms; 770,000 square feet of retail; a proposed 400-student public elementary school, and the Parkhomes, a subdivision of single-family homes.

"I wanted to live in Chicago," said Eisner. She works in retail sales in Chicago and recently moved into a convertible apartment with 590 square feet of space at the Shoreham.

"New York City wasn't for me. Chicago is a good place with lots of good things about it," she said.

"I like the development's location because it's in the middle of everything. It has the feeling of big city life. But, when I come home it's very quiet, yet there's hustle and bustle at Michigan Avenue just five minutes away," she said. "It's the best of both worlds."

Eisner said one of her favorite attractions at the Shoreham is the six-acre park smack in the middle of Lakeshore East.

"It's beautiful. You can just sit there and enjoy it, or you can hook up to the Internet because the park has a wireless connection," she said. "There's also a wireless connection in the 16th-floor garden area. It's an indoor landscaped area where you can read magazines and get complimentary coffee. I also enjoy sitting on my apartment's balcony. It has a great view."

Renters at the Shoreham have a plethora of posh amenities. Residents have free access to the Shore Club, a private floor featuring a Sky Garden Lounge, the Home Office business center, a party suite with catering kitchen, a billiards room and a cafe.

Also on the 16th floor, a spa provides residents with a fitness center, two whirlpools, sauna and steam rooms, massage area, an outdoor pool and a landscaped terrace including a poolside deck and barbecue area.

Along with the building amenities, Eisner said it was the host of benefits packed into the rental price that convinced her about a lease at the Shoreham.

"You get free satellite television with eight HBO movie channels, six Showtime movie channels and 120 other channels," Eisner said. "I also get free Internet hookup in my apartment, free air-conditioning and heat, free water, and I have my own washer and dryer. It's great."

Another benefit is the help at the Shoreham.

"We have a 24-hour maintenance staff that will do just about anything you can think of," she said. "For example, I wanted to take a shelf down in my kitchen. I called and they were there in less than five minutes. The 24-hour door staff are very helpful, too. They're knowledgeable and nice."

The Shoreham offers apartments ranging from studios and convertibles to 1- and 2-bedrooms of up to 1,300 square feet. Monthly rents range from $1,082 to $2,600. Apartments include an in-unit laundry with a full-size washer and dryer, General Electric appliances and granite kitchen islands with a choice of finishes.

"The rents are not expensive if you think of all the free benefits you get," Eisner said.

Since marketing began in mid-April, the building is already 60 percent rented.

"It's the fastest lease up we've ever seen," said Christina Gaylor, sales and marketing manager for NNP Residential & Development, the management and co-development firm. "We're blown away. Last week, alone we leased 25 apartments. It's crazy.

"We think it's a few things. First, we have a rent/buy program. People can invest 25 percent of their monthly rent to earn a credit to purchase one of the condos in the Lakeshore East Development. They can earn up to a 2.5 percent credit toward the purchase price. There is no catch. It's just a benefit we offer to renters in the Shoreham,"

"The other attraction is Lakeshore East's six-acre park in the middle of the development," she said. "It's unusual for a rental building to have such a big park. It's one of the most popular views in the building.

"And finally, people are attracted to all the free amenities included in the rent," she said. "They only have to pay for their telephone and electricity, minus air-conditioning costs. And, the electric bills are affordable. For a 1-bedroom apartment, the monthly electric bill is about $20 to $30, depending how much they use their washer and dryer.

"Renters here know what their monthly living expenses are going to be. So, they know right away what they can afford."

The Lakeshore East mixed-use community received the 2002 National Honor Award for excellence in urban design from the American Institute of Architects.

SKYSCAPES

WHAT: The Shoreham, a 548-unit rental skyscraper at 400 E. South Water.

DEVELOPER: Magellan Development Group Ltd. and NNP Residential & Development.

MANAGEMENT: NNP Residential & Development.

ARCHITECT: Loewenberg Architects.

RENTS: $1,082 to $1,235 for studios; $1,256 to $1,540 for convertibles; $1,404 to $2,160 for 1-bedrooms and $2,350 to $2,600 for 2-bedrooms.

APARTMENT AMENITIES: In-unit full-size washer and dryer, free air-conditioning and satellite television, and kitchen with General Electric appliances and granite islands with a choice of finishes.

AMENITIES: The club area features a garden with lounge, business center and a party suite with kitchen, billiards and game boards and plasma TVs. The spa has a fitness center, two whirlpools, sauna and steam rooms, massage area, outdoor pool and a landscaped terrace including a poolside deck and barbecue area.

INFORMATION: Call (312) 540-0400; www.TheShoreham.com.

HowardL
July 17th, 2005, 08:36 PM
So, I walked over and had lunch in the park a couple of times this week and I have to say that I am extremely impressed with how it's turning out. Up until this point, I had only watched construction from above, either Upper Wacker or the BCBS plaza. This was my first time venturing down to the actual park.

It is going to be a terrific little park, I think. It does a really great job of interweaving some really intimate spaces into the overall design. I think once the buildings have sprouted all the way around, it will really start coming into its own.

It has huge potential as it matures, but already it's a class act.

kayosthery
July 17th, 2005, 08:56 PM
The superintendent I'm working for at 345 E. Ohio is the guy who built the Shoreham. He told me he is scheduled to go back to Lakeshore East and start building another highrise there in about 90 days. I'm curious if any of you know what building might be getting under way in 90 days or so? He says it will be similar to Shoreham, in which case I'm disappointed. I was hoping we'd get one of the taller ones.

Chi_Coruscant
July 17th, 2005, 09:08 PM
^It must've been the Chandler.

The Urban Politician
August 8th, 2005, 10:09 PM
Quick question.

Will the road going around the Lakewhore East park connect to Wacker Dr? Will this be the case or will it just connect to Randolph?

Chi_Coruscant
August 8th, 2005, 10:54 PM
Another quick question:

What's the latest on Gang design?

Steely Dan
August 9th, 2005, 12:00 AM
Lakewhore East park

lakewhore east? do you really hate this project that much, or is that just a funny typo?

Latoso
August 9th, 2005, 12:48 AM
I think we should all start lovingly calling it Lakewhore East! :rofl:

The Urban Politician
August 9th, 2005, 02:30 AM
lakewhore east? do you really hate this project that much, or is that just a funny typo?

:lol:

Actually, Lakewhore East is my favorite development in Chicago. That's my pet name for it

BVictor1
August 9th, 2005, 03:26 AM
The superintendent I'm working for at 345 E. Ohio is the guy who built the Shoreham. He told me he is scheduled to go back to Lakeshore East and start building another highrise there in about 90 days. I'm curious if any of you know what building might be getting under way in 90 days or so? He says it will be similar to Shoreham, in which case I'm disappointed. I was hoping we'd get one of the taller ones.


It will be The Chandler dude!!! How can they posibally start on one of the taller towers when nothing else is being marketed? When I stopped by the sales center last Thursday, they told me that The Chandler si about 85% sold, and that construction would start in the 4th quarter. Well 90 days is 3 months so, say sometime in November things should get going. They do about 1 building a year. 340Otp is a seperate developer, so it doesnt count. The Regatta started construction at the end of "04".

I haven't spoken with my old professor from SG about the Columbus Drive building that they are doing. I will contact him and see what the progress is. I was told in the sales center, that they would probably start marketing the next building in 6-8 months, and from what I understand, that's the SG building.

Here's what The Chandler looks like.
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/07/381448.jpg

It looks nothing like The Shoreham, though they are similar in height.

Chi_Coruscant
August 9th, 2005, 06:37 AM
Target Targets The Loop
Big Box Retailer Slated for New Eastside

(Monday 01 August 2005 @ 00:52) - As the Lakeshore East development grows by leaps and bounds, the question keeps being asked: What's next for Chicago's New Eastside? The answer could be a Target store.

It's already pretty well known in construction and real estate circles that two massive towers are planned for the west side of the Lakeshore East development in Chicago's New Eastside. One tower is expected to be in the neighborhood of 70-stories tall; the other 80ish. Everyone expects one of the towers will have a hotel, but the brand is uncertain as all of the major hotel chains are already well represented in the city. But what many are not expecting is a new Target store opening in the other tower.

To those who don't live in the Loop the idea may seem preposterous. But fortunately large American corporations aren't similarly beset with the notion that people can only work in cities and live in suburbs. Companies like Target, Wal-Mart and Home Depot having bled the suburbs dry have all discovered great success opening outlets in downtowns from New York to Atlanta to Minneapolis. Target, particularly, is aware of the real-world applications of the Hollywood notion "If you build it, they will come." Its store in downtown Minneapolis not only serves those who are rebuilding that city's urban core by living in its lofts, apartments, and condos, it has also become something of a tourist attraction for people from Minnesota's prairies, farms, and suburbs who marvel at the concept of a multistory Target and its escalator contraption for moving shopping carts between floors. (One of these can be seen in Chicago at the Target on Addison west of Western.)

Further, let's face facts: Target is not Wal-Mart. There are Target shoppers who wouldn't be caught dead inside a Wal-Mart. As luck would have it, the demographics of those people pretty closely match the kind of people paying a premium to live in the city's New Eastside these days. The neighborhood, the Loop, and the Near North Side are desperate for some basic retail facilities, and this world be a match made in latte-sipping, Dave Matthews-listening heaven.
=====================================================
Plan for New Eastside Skyscraper Hints At Things To Come
The Shoreham Two Creates a Gateway to Greenspace

(Monday 01 August 2005 @ 00:50) - According to people in the know, the next building to be erected at Lakeshore East will be the Shoreham II. The 46-story tower will be a mirror image of the current Shoreham at the corner of East South Water Street and Field Boulevard. The new building will be across Field Boulevard, creating a skyscraper gateway. The reason for creating such a thing at that location remains a mystery. As it is planned now, it world only be a gateway to the Central Auto Pound. But if the city ever gives up the location beneath East Wacker Drive, it would create a pedestrian and greenspace link from the Chicago River's south riverwalk through The Park at Lakeshore East, and into Millennium and Grant Parks. What are the chances of that happening? Well, that's anyone's guess. But considering that the developers of Lakeshore East put together the best park in the Chicago and then sold it to the city for more than $20 million, Mayor Daley has more than a passing interest in the area. Moreover, Daley himself attended the ceremony at the park in July 2005 where responsibility for the park was transferred. He would have to be blind or mired in scandals to miss the potential all around him.

kayosthery
August 9th, 2005, 07:43 AM
Uhhhhh....???? "The Shoreham Two". How unimaginative and dull?

:rant: Love working for Walsh.... :bash: .... "Hey, we'll only build the ones with the huge profit margins. We'll leave the great architecture with groundbreaking and breathtaking ideas and concepts to companies like Mc*$%^ and Adjus#&#(*......

This sucks, guess I'll hold by breath for TFS. :righton:

The Urban Politician
August 9th, 2005, 07:43 AM
Wow--great find.

Chandler II--now that's just music to my ears at 1:40 am! Good night, all

spyguy
August 9th, 2005, 07:56 AM
When I saw that thing for Shoreham II a few days ago I was ashamed. Such utter crap. Why would anyone want to live there?

ChicagoLover
August 9th, 2005, 08:40 AM
This business about another Shoreham is a joke right? I don't think the tower is bad -- especially not for Low-as-you-can-go-enberg, but 2? Please someone tell me they're joking.

Chi_Coruscant
August 9th, 2005, 01:26 PM
I am feeling afraid that the Lakeshore East plan is starting to be numbingly boring a la Lowenberg. :ohno:

lazar22b
August 9th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I am very disappointed with the idea of a Shoreham II. This project was going so well up to now.

By the way, isn't the Shoreham the building they are having most problems selling?? If so, who would even think of building a second one. :bash:

The Urban Politician
August 9th, 2005, 05:27 PM
I am very disappointed with the idea of a Shoreham II. This project was going so well up to now.

By the way, isn't the Shoreham the building they are having most problems selling?? If so, who would even think of building a second one. :bash:

^Where've you been? Shoreham is an apartment building

I don't know what they're thinking. Alone, the Shoreham isn't too bad--but 2 of them is definitely a bit weird. At least it doesn't look like Grand Plaza. Either way, Lowenburg's fuckin it up again!

Let's hope Jeanne Gang's building adds some spice to the area

Mahalo26
August 9th, 2005, 07:39 PM
Let's not hastily react to the news - a bit premature and possibly unwarranted. It would take a lot to turn Lakeshore East into a "bad" or "poorly developed" area.

BVictor1
August 9th, 2005, 08:06 PM
I just called Magellan Development and NNP who are the developers and they were pretty clueless about things. I am going to try and contact the sales center to see if I can find out anything else.

lazar22b
August 9th, 2005, 08:49 PM
^Where've you been? Shoreham is an apartment building

???

I know its an apartment building.

Chicago3rd
August 10th, 2005, 04:04 AM
???

I know its an apartment building.

Condos are sold apartments are rented.

lazar22b
August 10th, 2005, 05:46 PM
^^ Oh, I see what he was talking about.

I meant, doesn't the Shorham have the highest vacancy rate of all the projects? The point is that it is not having the same success as the other projects, therefore why would they build a second with the same design?

BVictor1
August 11th, 2005, 01:10 AM
Well, I just came from the LakeshoreEast sales center, and the article above about a mirror to the Shoreham seems to be true, unfortunately:( I don't know if it's going to be "exactly" the same. I was told at the sales center, that they would be aapling for the construction permit within the next 30-60 days.

The somewhat good news is that the arch seems to still be apart of the project, though not in its original incarnation. I have no idea what it's going to look like.

lazar22b
August 11th, 2005, 02:02 AM
Does anyone know the price range of condos in the Chandler?

ChicagoLover
August 11th, 2005, 03:10 AM
I hate to wish so much ill on ol' Jimmy Loewenberg (or do I) but I wish someone would do a hatchet piece on him. It would be great -- "The Most Prolific Bad Architect in the City of Architecture." They could debate: is it pure avarice? Does he really have the ability to design, but out of sheer greed, he has decided to pull out cheap crap to penny pinch as much as possible? Does he see himself as a businessman and not an architect? Is he the Hetty Green of architecture? Or is he just REALLY bad at design, and greedy? I wish someone could dig out his portfolio from architecture school, if he indeed did graduate from an architecture program, and didn't just take a correspondence course. I can imagine his presentation, as he bragged to the teacher how much money the project would save.


I mean, he's been around for ever -- wasn't his father an architect too, from whom he took over the practice? I can only imagine him in his office, thinking of all the ways he can save money -- "oh I'll put two of the same design there... h a ha ha hah a, excellent! " The guy probably spends more time checking his investment portfolio than he does actually at work designing anything.

Tom in Chicago
August 11th, 2005, 08:16 AM
Does anyone know the price range of condos in the Chandler?

The cheapest units in the building (studio) were in the $180,000.00 range. . . they required $10,000.00 down at contract. . . I told them they were crazy. . .

lazar22b
August 11th, 2005, 07:23 PM
^^10,000? Shit. I'm gonna go to the sales center today, im trying to get something decent, but $10,000 down for a studio kinda of scares me.

Tom in Chicago
August 12th, 2005, 11:39 PM
I might look into getting something at the Chandler. . . right now a lot of speculatory stuff is happening. . . when the bubble burst I'll have my say in what I want. . . and price hopefully. . .

lazar22b
August 13th, 2005, 07:48 PM
^^ I was at the sales center the other day, they told me they were all out of studios and single bedrooms. I think whatever they had left started in the mid 300s.

The Urban Politician
August 17th, 2005, 07:35 PM
The LSE website now has a new message for the townhomes. Looks like these are going to get started pretty soon:

Design plans are in the final completion stages for The Parkhomes that will border Lakeshore East's magnificent 6-acre park. Reservations are now being accepted for these charming, distinctively styled homes. Please call us at (312) 540-9891 for more information

LA1
September 7th, 2005, 04:12 AM
I visited the new park a few days ago. I have to say it is one of the nicer urban parks I have seen. Alot of famalies, young people etc.

Krzycho
September 8th, 2005, 03:36 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/PC280077.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/PC280076.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/PC280074.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/PC280072.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/PC280073.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/PC280069.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/PC280070.jpg

colemonkee
September 9th, 2005, 02:01 AM
Nice pics, man!

spyguy
September 18th, 2005, 03:44 AM
Any new news on this one? The Gang building? What's happening with the school? Is the beautiful arch still going to be there?

BVictor1
September 22nd, 2005, 02:36 AM
Any new news on this one? The Gang building? What's happening with the school? Is the beautiful arch still going to be there?


You know if there was news on the Gang building that it would have been posted here. The school will be built eventually, currently there's not enough money for it, and it will go between The Lancaster and The Shoreham. The arch is still a possibility, but it might be a bit different, there is no definite information on the arch at this time.


I have some updated images of The Regatta.


Workers installing duct work within the building 2005-9-6
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/09/397233.jpg

Brick being installed on the low-rise portion of The Regatta - 2005-9-13
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/09/397885.jpg

Decorative brickwork being placed at the base of The Regatta along Wacker Drive - 2005-9-13
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/09/397873.jpg

A view to the southwest from lower Lake Shore Drive - 2005-9-20
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/09/398928.jpg

Windows being installed on the first level - 2005-9-20
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/09/398929.jpg


Also, yesterday I noticed that there was a soil drilling rig on the land directly west of The Shoreham. I'm sure that they are drilling for the unfortunate ShorehamII
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/9805/p10102311lg.jpg

spyguy
September 22nd, 2005, 03:12 AM
Cool. Great updates (except about #2...ugh). I'm happy that the possibility of an arch still exists. Also, I sent you a PM about a week or two ago.

BVictor1
September 24th, 2005, 03:24 AM
From the September edition of Midwest Construction

Building News - September 2005

Work Starts on 35-Story Condo

Fifth Tower to Rise in Lakeshore Development
$146M Chandler tower part of Chicago's Lakeshore East development
(09/01/2005)


Ground was recently broken for the $146 million The Chandler condominium, the fifth high rise in the Lakeshore East development in Chicago.

The 35-story high-rise offers 286 luxury residences priced from $192,000 for a 582-sq.-ft. studio to $1.7 million for a 3,215-sq.-ft. three-bedroom unit.

The tower - designed by Chicago-based DeStefano + Partners, with interiors by Chicago-based Loewenberg Architects - will feature The Shore Club, including a fitness facility with an indoor rooftop pool, two landscaped rooftop decks, private party room and media room. Concierge services will be provided. Retail space totaling 10,000 sq. ft. and a private parking facility will round out the property.

Chicago-based James McHugh Construction Co. is serving as the general contractor.

The $4 billion mixed-use Lakeshore East development is expected to reach completion in about 10 years

Chi_Coruscant
September 24th, 2005, 05:31 AM
After Chandler, the Parkhomes townhouses, followed by *retching* Shoreham II

The Urban Politician
September 24th, 2005, 05:29 PM
Ah, so does that mean we have 3 new buildings u/c:

50 E Chestnut
600 N LSD
The Chandler

My weekend has just been made.

Where are you getting these articles, Butler?

BVictor1
September 24th, 2005, 06:59 PM
Ah, so does that mean we have 3 new buildings u/c:

50 E Chestnut
600 N LSD
The Chandler

My weekend has just been made.

Where are you getting these articles, Butler?

No, only 2. They have only potholed the site, but no caissons have been started yet. I don't forsee The Chandler starting for another couple of weeks.

Chi_Coruscant
September 24th, 2005, 07:12 PM
- edit

spyguy
September 24th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Yeah, this was reported a while back. Disappointing news really. And is Lakeshore East $2.5 or 4 billion? You always see the first number, but the last number seems more correct to me.

Chi_Coruscant
October 15th, 2005, 06:46 PM
From ChicagoBusiness Home webpage:

Oct. 15, 2005


As Crain's goes to press . . .

80-story tower eyed for Chicago River site
Developers plan an 80-story tower for the $4-billion Lake-shore East development on Lake Shore Drive south of the Chicago River. The high-rise, to be on Columbus Drive across from the Fairmont Hotel, is being designed by Chicago architect Jeanne Gang. Plans include about 500 apartments, nearly 300 condos and possibly a hotel with 195 units, says Joel Carlins, CEO of Magellan Development, which is developing Lakeshore East with Near North Properties. The Chicago-based firms are in talks with hotel operators and aim to market the condo units next year, Mr. Carlins says. [Alby Gallun]

spyguy
October 15th, 2005, 06:48 PM
I was JUST about to post that.

Chi_Coruscant
October 15th, 2005, 06:49 PM
^so sorry. Need a good new to offset the depressing new (on MoMo). :)

spyguy
October 15th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Hehe, no problem. And yeah, I agree, this makes MoMo's delay (I'm calling it that for right now) a little less painful. Let's hope both get constructed.

lazar22b
October 15th, 2005, 06:58 PM
This is great news! Especially after the Momo news. Can't wait to see how it will look.

With all these beauties coming into Chicago right now, anybody else really glad to be alive at the moment?

The Urban Politician
October 16th, 2005, 04:04 AM
I don't know if this has been brought up, but Shawn had mentioned this to me (and I saw this while visiting the sales center):

Some of the townhomes, esp the ones south of Lancaster, will actually be 7 stories tall. Three or 4 stories will face the inner park drive and the 3 stories stacked on top of them will face the outer drive.

It really looks cool in the sales center, you guys should drop by and check it out (and the sales reps are great--so CHARMED by Victor and Shawn!)

ChicagoLover
October 16th, 2005, 06:38 AM
I wish I could go to that sales center. Is the neighborhood map from the Lakeshore East website still accurate as to where the "parkhomes" are situated? They are only in that one southeast corner? Or will there be more? I'm unclear as to where these things are going, and the topography of the land, so I'm unclear about how they will be 7 stories on one side and 3 on the other.

BVictor1
October 17th, 2005, 10:39 PM
From ChicagoBusiness Home webpage:

Oct. 15, 2005


As Crain's goes to press . . .

80-story tower eyed for Chicago River site
Developers plan an 80-story tower for the $4-billion Lake-shore East development on Lake Shore Drive south of the Chicago River. The high-rise, to be on Columbus Drive across from the Fairmont Hotel, is being designed by Chicago architect Jeanne Gang. Plans include about 500 apartments, nearly 300 condos and possibly a hotel with 195 units, says Joel Carlins, CEO of Magellan Development, which is developing Lakeshore East with Near North Properties. The Chicago-based firms are in talks with hotel operators and aim to market the condo units next year, Mr. Carlins says. [Alby Gallun]

From what I understand, this building will be between 850'-900'

Exact figures will be provided at a later date.

spyguy
October 17th, 2005, 10:43 PM
Oh man! You can definitely see that a new central core is finally emerging in Chicago after decades of the bookends (Sears and JHC) with Aon in the center.

Now Aon is finally getting the respect it deserves. Aon + 2 Pru + Lakeshore East + Mandarin Oriental + Fordham Spire (and if viewed from far away, Trump + Waterview).

Only in Chicago? Maybe Dubai too :)

BVictor1
October 26th, 2005, 10:54 PM
Controversial architect changes his approach

October 26, 2005

BY DAVID ROEDER SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Another "Loewenberg building'' is coming to downtown, and that news used to set off alarms in the city's vast army of architecture and design critics. Buildings in River North associated with architect Jim Loewenberg were widely reviled for heavy use of painted concrete.

But Loewenberg has changed his approach with his work for the Lakeshore East project north of Grant Park, where he is a development partner with Joel Carlins. Loewenberg's first work at the site, a 29-story building called the Lancaster, was handsome and a hit in the marketplace. He followed that with the 46-story Shoreham, an apartment building now nearly built and 90 percent leased.

His next effort will be called the Tides at Lakeshore East, a 607-unit building at 360 E. South Water that'll be the development's second rental property. Its reflective glass and varied treatment of balconies picks up on the design cues of its neighbors.

With Lakeshore East, has the architect responded to his critics? "I don't get too involved in that. I'm too old and cranky,'' Loewenberg said. Don't believe him about the cranky part. He's one of the more cheerful men in real estate.

Chi_Coruscant
October 27th, 2005, 04:00 AM
I bring you The Tides.
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/6686/tides7dg.jpg

spyguy
October 27th, 2005, 04:07 AM
O.......k......................
Nice job on the scan though. At least we now know what it looks like generally.

lazar22b
October 27th, 2005, 06:28 AM
hmm.... maybe slightly more impressive then the shorham?

Frumie
October 27th, 2005, 09:20 PM
The building makes the same impact as Lake Michigan's tides.

The Urban Politician
October 27th, 2005, 11:10 PM
I don't get it.

That picture doesn't tell us much.

So it's essentially a replica of the Shoreham, as we all feared.

Man, Loewenberg is starting to make me cranky

ChicagoLover
October 27th, 2005, 11:40 PM
Seeing as how we may be getting an identical twin of Shoreham II. (OK, maybe the buildings aren't identical, but not all identical twins end up looking exactly the same either. Maybe 'clone' is a better word since they weren't born at the same time.) What do people think of the way Shoreham turned out? I agree with David Roeder of the Sun-Times. I think its a decent looking building. Certainly no show stopper, but I have to say its a lot better looking than a few of the older towers fronting the north side of Grant Park. Lynn Becker thinks it stinks.

Has LowEndBerg actually managed to clean up his act as Roeder says?

spyguy
October 27th, 2005, 11:42 PM
No he has not. Hopefully he can hire other firms like Studio Gang to clean up his mess.

Chi_Coruscant
October 27th, 2005, 11:43 PM
Has LowEndBerg actually managed to clean up his act as Roeder says?
He is afraid of Mayor Daley. And us at SSC and SSP :)

geoff_diamond
October 28th, 2005, 02:02 AM
Looks like shit from here.

Frumie
October 28th, 2005, 02:16 AM
Looks like shit from here.
Could be Shinola. :)

BVictor1
October 29th, 2005, 03:34 PM
THE TIDES
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/10/411523.jpg

I'm getting a little tired of all of the blue glass.

spyguy
October 29th, 2005, 03:42 PM
I feel the same way. I suppose it is an "improvement" over the Shoreham but still....
The skyline is going to be so blue in a few years. Maybe I'll have a change of heart for projects like 4th Presbyterian by then.

Chi_Coruscant
October 29th, 2005, 04:16 PM
It looks better than Shoreham; hopefully Lowenberg leaves it alone this time.

Is it another phase of townhouses on the left of the Tides?
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9012/tides0sf.jpg

geoff_diamond
October 29th, 2005, 04:33 PM
This building is head and shoulders above the Shoreham in terms of aesthetic quality. The problem is this: the massing appears to be identical (right down the small cancerous growth of an annexed building to the east). So, now we have to ask... how fucking rediculous is it going to look to have two identical buildings that are simply skinned differently? I think this is a bigger mistake then just building an identical twin to the first piece of shit.

The Urban Politician
October 29th, 2005, 06:11 PM
This building is head and shoulders above the Shoreham in terms of aesthetic quality. The problem is this: the massing appears to be identical (right down the small cancerous growth of an annexed building to the east). So, now we have to ask... how fucking rediculous is it going to look to have two identical buildings that are simply skinned differently? I think this is a bigger mistake then just building an identical twin to the first piece of shit.

^I don't know. From the picture, it appears that the Tides will be taller than the Whoreham

geoff_diamond
October 30th, 2005, 07:42 AM
Well, hopefully you're right... but, I would venture to guess that's a result of the perspective in the rendering.

BVictor1
November 10th, 2005, 12:16 AM
The Chandler will probably begin construction tomorrow. I just came from the site, and Case Foundation are assymbling there cranes. There is already other material like rebar on the site and there's also casson tops and drill bits. I will go past the site again tomorrow.

spyguy
November 10th, 2005, 12:19 AM
That is good news. Now let's hope for the 80 story building to be unveiled soon.

Chi_Coruscant
November 10th, 2005, 12:53 AM
From Sun-Times' David Roeder's tidbit:
OFFICE PERCH: In a case of developers moving closer to their progeny, Magellan Development Group Ltd. and Near North Properties Inc. are relocating to 25,000 square feet at 303 E. Wacker. The new spot gives them clear sight of their $4 billion Lakeshore East project under way north of Grant Park, so those subcontractors better look sharp. The allied firms, controlled by Joel Carlins and Jim Loewenberg, respectively, signed a five-year lease in a move from 1 W. Superior.

ChicagoLover
November 10th, 2005, 03:05 AM
I would think Lowendberg (that mutated, yet apt moniker is copyright BVictor, I believe) would want his views to be far from the buildings he designs. I believe he lives on East Lake Shore. This is one architect who would never live in a building he designed.

BVictor1
November 11th, 2005, 12:15 AM
The Chandler is now officially under construction. I just came back from the site, and caisson drilling is currently going on...

spyguy
November 11th, 2005, 12:25 AM
Yay

Chi_Coruscant
November 11th, 2005, 12:32 AM
:applause:

BVictor1
November 11th, 2005, 12:50 AM
**Wrong Thread**

Chi_Coruscant
November 16th, 2005, 02:25 PM
From the Inside Commercial Real Estate section in 11/16 Tribune's Business:
(Thomas A. Corfman):
Treasure Island signed 15-year lease for 27,000 sq ft in a proposed three-story, 85,000sq ft retail building. To be completed in the 3rd quarter of 2006, the retail center will be located just north of 340 N. Randolph.

LA1
November 16th, 2005, 03:09 PM
^
Most important part of LSE, if you ask me. I was afraid they wouldn't get a grocery store within walking distance of all of those towers. I hope more retail is one the way, outside of this retail building. Isn't Target coming here?
Actually, a new Target would be awesome on Michigan, between Randolph and Wacker.

ChicagoLover
November 16th, 2005, 07:24 PM
^ I am nervous that such a store wouldn't be well-integrated into the urban fabric.

LA1
November 16th, 2005, 07:46 PM
I agree, but it can be done. All they have to do is look at Crate/Barrell or North Bridge facing Michigan.

The Urban Politician
November 16th, 2005, 07:56 PM
^
Most important part of LSE, if you ask me. I was afraid they wouldn't get a grocery store within walking distance of all of those towers. I hope more retail is one the way, outside of this retail building. Isn't Target coming here?
Actually, a new Target would be awesome on Michigan, between Randolph and Wacker.

^ No offense, but a Target in that particular location would be outright ridiculous, if you ask me.

I would laugh my ass off and then cry

dvidler
November 16th, 2005, 07:59 PM
^
Isn't Target coming here?
Actually, a new Target would be awesome on Michigan, between Randolph and Wacker.

Am I wrong or would that be impossible? On Michigan Ave between Randolph & Wacker?

I do know they have had talks for Congress & Stetson

LA1
November 16th, 2005, 09:00 PM
I don't mean a new building. I was thinking a developer could buy a few of those old, smaller buildings, and maybe somehow combined the space. Its not like smaller tenants of these buildings are doing well anyway.

ThirdCoast312
November 17th, 2005, 12:55 AM
How about putting Target in the Marshall Field's buidling. I'd rather have them there than New York's stupid Macy's. Macy's is a dying breed anyways.

nomarandlee
November 17th, 2005, 12:56 AM
^ No offense, but a Target in that particular location would be outright ridiculous, if you ask me.

I would laugh my ass off and then cry


I agree. Target doesn't stray from its facade and architectural style very much and they would have to make MAJOR philosophical and architectural concessions for it to even be presentable for such an area (so much that I don't know if there bottom price approach to construction would warrent). Any place that can't even build farking street level windows shouldn't have commercial license anywhere of any value in the city.
If they wanted to build an industrial/warhouse loft type style maybe it would work but I wouldn't trust them to do it right. Treasure Island is about as big box retail as it should get for such a prominet location.
Has Target even ever built on a location where there was not a major street level parking lot to go along with it?

spyguy
November 17th, 2005, 12:58 AM
*Harrod's

They know what to do with the place.

Also, looks like they have some windows up on 340OTP now.

Adam186
November 17th, 2005, 02:13 AM
I got these from www.340owners.com (I believe SpyGuy mentioned this on SP?)

http://340owners.com/photos/images_c/c229.jpg
http://340owners.com/photos/images_c/c230.jpg
http://340owners.com/photos/images_c/c231.jpg
http://340owners.com/photos/images_c/c232.jpg

colemonkee
November 17th, 2005, 02:40 AM
Has Target even ever built on a location where there was not a major street level parking lot to go along with it?

This one in LA (West Hollywood, to be exact) is a retail complex with Target and Best Buy as anchor tenants, and several other tenants (restaurants, Cingular stores, BevMo, etc. fronting two major streets and a courtyard.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1787/whgatewayfulllabreaelev8ws.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8250/whgatewayfullcourtyardground2l.jpg

There are also two other Target stores in the LA area (both in the Valley, of all places) that vary from Targets architectural "style" AND have no surface parking (one is below grade and the other is on top of the store. So Target can pull off an urban design for their stores.

edsg25
November 17th, 2005, 02:51 AM
Treasure Island is a fine store with a gourmet quality and certainly belongs on the site far more than Jewel or Dominick's. However, I would have rather seen another choice: Sunset Foods. I don't know how many of you are familiar with it, but sunset does a helluva business with a helluva reputation on the North Shore (Nbk, HP, LF, Lib'vil). It is a full service market with top quality, an unbelievable deli, service that can't be beat and a marvelous variety of foods. On the North Shore, it is almost legandary....and a lot of North Shore folks are the ones who have moved downtown to all those new condos.

Sunset could have done even better with the site than TI and would have been more of an asset for the development, as well.

Steely Dan
November 17th, 2005, 03:03 AM
On the North Shore, it is almost legandary....
well, having grown up on the north shore and never hearing of this sunset foods place, you're claim that it is "almost legendary" seems a bit dubious to me. but from what you've said, i'm sure its a fine place.

ChicagoLover
November 17th, 2005, 04:03 AM
^ That LA Target looks GREAT. We should keep in mind that Target's flagship store below their headquarters in downtown Minneapolis is extremely urban. I had forgotten about this until I saw the pictures of the LA Target. I am hopeful that a Target will be at the base of a tower, or some such thing, not its own building. But whatever it is, given Target's familiarity with urban locations, and the city's tougher standards these days, I'm not too worried.

spyguy
November 17th, 2005, 04:14 AM
Target is supposed to be in the 80 story Gang tower, isn't it?

Chi_Coruscant
November 17th, 2005, 05:42 AM
^No. Target, assuming it would join, will be at the retail center, north of 340TP along with Treasure Island.

geoff_diamond
November 17th, 2005, 06:04 AM
If you want to really know where Target should go just take a look at the ailing Sears flagship on State. I can't think of a better location for the big T :)

Chicago3rd
November 17th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Was the Target in West Hollywood where they filmed "40 year old virgin?" Looks familiar.

Seattle's Northgate Target:
http://wilthe3rd.smugmug.com/photos/44888159-L.jpg


Target in LSE will only work if access is only given by Columbus Middle and Lower Drive. It would be a disaster if it opened onto the park area.

Sears downtown is my best guess as a great place for Target.




http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1787/whgatewayfulllabreaelev8ws.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8250/whgatewayfullcourtyardground2l.jpg

The Urban Politician
November 17th, 2005, 11:32 PM
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1787/whgatewayfulllabreaelev8ws.jpg

^ Notice that there are absolutely no pedestrians here

You can put make-up on her, but she's still ugly

Chi_Coruscant
November 17th, 2005, 11:37 PM
You're right, TUP! If I guess correctly, it looks like 7pm-ish on summertime. Is that "density" the few LA forumers openly bragged about?

Anyway, I don't like the design. It looks suburban.

colemonkee
November 18th, 2005, 02:24 AM
No one's bragging about LA density here. I merely posted these pics to illustrate that Target can design a store without a giant surface parking lot, which was a claim earlier in this thread. Many people were concerned that Target would have to make - and I quote - "MAJOR philosophical and architectural concessions" to have an urban store. I was merely posting to address those concerns.

I'll agree with you, the design itself is suburban in nature with all of the stucco and curves, but that's a product of the developer, and of LA still not being comfortable getting entirely out of it's suburban skin just yet.

As for no pedestrians around, I don't know why it is that way in those pics, but I've been to this complex about 10 times, and there's always significant foot traffic on both La Brea (the street shown) and Santa Monica. And that even with the surrounding areas being VERY unpedestrian (the five blocks directly west of this complex host the blank wall of the old Warner Bros. Hollywood backlot).

But this isn't a thread about a Target in LA, so this discussion is someone moot here.

LA1
November 18th, 2005, 03:22 AM
That Target is located close to walkable commercial streets of LA, believe me. Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood is LA's Boystown, and very vibrant.

pottebaum
November 18th, 2005, 03:44 AM
The retail center in LSE, what's it supposed to be like? Mixed us, multi story'd?

I think it'd be awesome to see Target in the current Sears, too, but what are the odds of that happening..

edsg25
November 18th, 2005, 04:17 AM
well, having grown up on the north shore and never hearing of this sunset foods place, you're claim that it is "almost legendary" seems a bit dubious to me. but from what you've said, i'm sure its a fine place.

Dan, I don't know how much business gets from the lower end of the North Shore (Evanston, Wilmette, etc.), but certainly around Highland Park, Northbrook, etc., it is considered a big deal.

UrbanSophist
November 18th, 2005, 04:20 AM
^ I think Sunset Foods is big with the Jewish community.

Chi_Coruscant
November 18th, 2005, 06:18 AM
This afternoon, I saw a very tall red crane set up on the 340OTP foundation.

wickedestcity
November 18th, 2005, 06:37 AM
^ I think Sunset Foods is big with the Jewish community.
not that im aware of

nomarandlee
November 18th, 2005, 07:35 AM
Dan, I don't know how much business gets from the lower end of the North Shore (Evanston, Wilmette, etc.), but certainly around Highland Park, Northbrook, etc., it is considered a big deal.


Edg25 is pretty right. In the communties it is in it is considered very professional and upper tier and well respected. It was kind of the Whole Foods before there was a Whole Foods (it does not have the the eco edge to it to the degree Whole Foods does though). I think there is one in Lake Forest as well if I am not mistaken. Sunset Foods at least in Northbrook is in the more WASP east area so the whole Jewish angle is not that true.
Treasure Island is not all that bad itself though and is more identifeid with the city though so either way you couldn't go wrong.

ThirdCoast312
November 18th, 2005, 08:01 AM
I found this map and thought it was pretty damn cool and also pretty damn complicated. Is this the street plan for Lake Shore East in detail???

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Chicago_top_down_view.png/615px-Chicago_top_down_view.png

wickedestcity
November 18th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Edg25 is pretty right. In the communties it is in it is considered very professional and upper tier and well respected. It was kind of the Whole Foods before there was a Whole Foods (it does not have the the eco edge to it to the degree Whole Foods does though). I think there is one in Lake Forest as well if I am not mistaken. Sunset Foods at least in Northbrook is in the more WASP east area so the whole Jewish angle is not that true.
Treasure Island is not all that bad itself though and is more identifeid with the city though so either way you couldn't go wrong.

accualy Jewel is far more geared tward jews! both the one in highland park and the one on howard and kedzie have kosher deli's and the one on howard has a kosher fish market,kosher bakery, a few compleatly exclusively kosher isles ,and a kosher chines take out to top it off. even dominics is more jewish geared than that place. the one that moved from kedzei and pratt to lincolinwood on prat and mccormick has a kosher isle

Chi_Coruscant
November 18th, 2005, 06:03 PM
accualy Jewel is far more geared tward jews! both the one in highland park and the one on howard and kedzie have kosher deli's and the one on howard has a kosher fish market,kosher bakery, a few compleatly exclusively kosher isles ,and a kosher chines take out to top it off. even dominics is more jewish geared than that place. the one that moved from kedzei and pratt to lincolinwood on prat and mccormick has a kosher isle

I live nearby that area. I am not jewish, though. It makes sense that Lincolnwood and Skokies have large jewish population present there.

NWside
November 18th, 2005, 11:07 PM
Well obviously a Jewels is going to cater kosher foods in a Jewish neighborhood, don't expect to find those items in a Little Village Jewelsss....

wickedestcity
November 18th, 2005, 11:17 PM
^my point was that Sunset Foods is not realy big in the jewish communities like urbansophist thinks

edsg25
November 19th, 2005, 03:18 AM
^ I think Sunset Foods is big with the Jewish community.

trust me. you don't want to try to shop there during the days leading up to Rosh Hanshona and Passover!

edsg25
November 19th, 2005, 03:21 AM
accualy Jewel is far more geared tward jews! both the one in highland park and the one on howard and kedzie have kosher deli's and the one on howard has a kosher fish market,kosher bakery, a few compleatly exclusively kosher isles ,and a kosher chines take out to top it off. even dominics is more jewish geared than that place. the one that moved from kedzei and pratt to lincolinwood on prat and mccormick has a kosher isle

wicked, no argument....and I'm well aware of how big the kosher business is on the Deerfield Road store. But Sunset's appeal to more secular Jews is undeniable....particularly in HP and Nbk; and its effect on the business is more than enormous. Obvioiusly the orientation isn't the same in their LF and Libertyville stores.

HowardL
November 23rd, 2005, 05:06 PM
Here's a short quote from David Roeder's Sun-Times column:

" . . . . The Lakeshore East development downtown has signed the Treasure Island supermarket to anchor a retail center planned near Randolph and Columbus Drive. . . . "

spyguy
November 23rd, 2005, 11:27 PM
Yeah, that was posted a little bit above.

BVictor1
November 27th, 2005, 12:28 AM
I just came from the LSE sales center, and they told me that there are only about 5 units remaining to be sold in The Regata, and that The Chandler is 84% sold (contracts signed).

One of the reps also told me that she saw a rough, birds-eye rendering of the Studio Gang tower. She said that it looked wierd! She said that it had a wavy texture. When she said that it was wierd, I got pretty excited:) I don't know when the rendering will be released, but I will continue to work on it. I can't get it until the developers officially release it.

spyguy
November 27th, 2005, 12:43 AM
I just came from the LSE sales center, and they told me that there are only about 5 units remaining to be sold in The Regata, and that The Chandler is 84% sold (contracts signed).

One of the reps also told me that she saw a rough, birds-eye rendering of the Studio Gang tower. She said that it looked wierd! She said that it had a wavy texture. When she said that it was wierd, I got pretty excited:) I don't know when the rendering will be released, but I will continue to work on it. I can't get it until the developers officially release it.

You delivered the goods. From news of good sales to the first description of what will be one awesome building. I'm even more excited about it looking weird and wavy. Hopefully other developers will see Gang's bold design and try and out-do each other.

pottebaum
November 27th, 2005, 12:45 AM
Wavy?! Wierd?! Yes! :D

Chi_Coruscant
November 28th, 2005, 12:59 AM
http://www.theslatinreport.com/pictures/millenparkpix%20002.jpg
Given the location of Gang tower in fronting the upper Columbus Drive, north of BCBSIL building, I am wondering if it is just only one huge tower or just a half of a two-towers site as indicated in the original rendering. Is it sticking to the original plan or was it revised? Any idea?

spyguy
November 28th, 2005, 01:05 AM
I thought it was just one of two massive towers. Not sure who's designing the second one though. Hopefully they'll outsource the work to another firm. I'm seeing a pattern developing here. Everytime they give a project to a firm other than Mr. L, it comes out great, like 340 or this tower.

BVictor1
November 28th, 2005, 10:33 PM
There will still be two towers that front Columbus. I believe that the Gang tower is the northern most of the two.

BVictor1
November 29th, 2005, 12:20 AM
A few shots of The Regatta-
View to the southwest from lower level Lake Shore Drive - 2005-11-18
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/11/418920.jpg

View to the east from Columbus Drive - 2005-11-26
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/11/418921.jpg

Layers of construction: Brick, foam-board insulation and concrete block - 2005-11-26
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/11/418925.jpg


The Chandler-
View to the northeast - 2005-11-26
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/11/418918.jpg

Chi_Coruscant
November 29th, 2005, 12:34 AM
Whoever bought the units facing northeast at Regatta are the lucky owners. Imagine having the view of Lake Michigan intersecting with the Chicago River, watching firework shooting up above Navy Pier, and a fantastic view of two 2,000 ft tall structures (if happened).

I envy them.

spyguy
November 29th, 2005, 12:34 AM
Thanks for the update.

lazar22b
December 12th, 2005, 03:05 AM
something i noticed on emporis about the Tides is that it is 498 ft tall with 51 floors compared to the 450 ft, 48 floor shoreham. We may be disapointed with a more or less repeat design, but it is slightly taller!

geoff_diamond
January 9th, 2006, 06:20 AM
Quickie...
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4291/regatta02.jpg

Just like the Streeter... I can now see the Regatta peeking out as well :)
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3795/regatta01.jpg

Everyman
January 22nd, 2006, 12:09 AM
Okay, here are a few pics from the other day of the Regatta.
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/8990/dscf05728ub.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4968/dscf05718fo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

geoff_diamond
January 22nd, 2006, 03:15 AM
Awesome! Thanks for the pics man :)

geoff_diamond
January 29th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Taken earlier this week.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4007/regatta010vl.jpg

spyguy
January 29th, 2006, 08:07 PM
That's an awesome view.

geoff_diamond
January 30th, 2006, 05:27 AM
Yeah, the density is fantastic... I just wish it wasn't washed out. The damn windows on the Hancock were filthy :(

cubsfan
February 1st, 2006, 09:40 PM
What the hell is going on with Studio Gangs tower? She must of broke both her arms and can't finish a friggin' rendering.

Chi_Coruscant
February 3rd, 2006, 03:08 AM
My first attempt from my Sidekick II. So sorry that pix is at low resolution.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1397/photo832vm.jpg
Anyway, this is a current top portion of 340OTP. I think it is the 18th floor they are working on, based from the window of 21st floor of a prominent building.

I will try to capture any picture in the morning where the construction activity tends to be exciting than late afternoon. Hope you like it, I think.

ChgoLvr83
February 3rd, 2006, 03:38 AM
^ When I counted the floors on 340owners.com, I counted 23/24 floors and framing for the next floor.

As of Feb 1st. Courtesy of 340owners.com:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/Chgo83/340-Construction.jpg

edsg25
February 3rd, 2006, 04:21 PM
along with the quality development going on there (and its admirable and generous use of public space), is it safe to say that Lakeshore East is unquestionably the most prime and dramatic piece of developable land anywhere in urban America?

river, lake, downtown, and being in a city like Chicago....I personally can't think of any piece of real estate subject to development that can compare.

forumly_chgoman
February 3rd, 2006, 05:22 PM
^^^Yeah and w/ 3 under constructiuon, 1 more approved, and 10 more building between nearly 300 ft and 700ft ( I think the gang tower is around 700?????) it is going to be one of the densest neighborhoods in the city......the whole "east" side from streeterville to lakeshoreeast is going to really help transform downtown to more and more of a bustling reidential area.....I can't wait

spyguy
February 4th, 2006, 12:06 AM
B37 (?) and Ground Zero? Maybe Wolf Point someday.

BVictor1
February 4th, 2006, 12:12 AM
The last email that I got from a contact of mine is that the Gang Tower tops out at 942'-6" CCD. Now, I don't know if that measurement comes from the park level or Columbus Drive. If the measurement is taken from park level subtract about 50'. Either way, it's tall.

spyguy
February 4th, 2006, 12:17 AM
WOW. That's crazy. I'm even more excited about this. 900, 950 - who cares? It's going to be awesome either way. Thank you again :)

Adam186
February 4th, 2006, 12:22 AM
the Gang Tower tops out at 942'-6" CCD

Holy shit that is tall. Thanks Vic! I'm begining to grow impatient for the rendering. I don't know about you guys, but has itn't been awhile since they said it should be released in the next couple of weeks? Or is it sometime this month? I'm going crazy and can't wait any longer :bash:

Chi_Coruscant
February 4th, 2006, 12:47 AM
942'-6"
:omg: Thanks for the update, BVictor!!!!
Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

forumly_chgoman
February 4th, 2006, 02:30 AM
Holy shit that is tall. Thanks Vic! I'm begining to grow impatient for the rendering. I don't know about you guys, but has itn't been awhile since they said it should be released in the next couple of weeks? Or is it sometime this month? I'm going crazy and can't wait any longer :bash:
942! that is amazing......wasn't it originally set for soenthing close to 700 so an increase of over 250ft....I wish this happened to more towers.....

.....any possibility of the remaining towers also seeing a height increase I wonder?:):)

BVictor1
February 4th, 2006, 02:31 AM
I just came from the sales center, and they said no information would be available until probably April, but this doesn't mean a rendering won't be released sooner. We'll just have to wait.

ChgoLvr83
February 4th, 2006, 06:27 AM
Cool news on the height. Question: I know this has been asked before but what is the next project after the Chandler? The Tides? And after that because they dont have to sell anything in the Tides to start construction. It seems to switch from the Parkhomes to the Gang Tower. And since April is a ways away, Im just curious on what on the agenda. Im just ready to see some interesting architecture come out of LSE.

Anna22
February 4th, 2006, 08:07 PM
A little birdie who would know has told me the Columbus building (Gang) will be 85 stories, top 1/2 condos and its to be called Aqua.

spyguy
February 4th, 2006, 08:43 PM
^^Now who would you be? :D Thanks for the heads up

So I assume the Fairmont is taking the bottom half for hotel-condos?

Anna22
February 4th, 2006, 09:02 PM
My understanding is the first few floors will be retail, including a high end health club and then residental rental, then hotel condos and then condos. But, as we all know, this is subject to change! And, yes, the involved hotel is the Fairmont, from what I've been told. Lastly, per my little bird friend, the building is stunning.

Anna22
February 4th, 2006, 09:03 PM
One last thing. Last I heard, and I haven't heard this has changed, the retail/rental/hotel entrance will be on Columbus but the condos will have a private entrance fronting the park.

spyguy
February 4th, 2006, 09:05 PM
You are invaluable. I hope you stick around this little forum.

Anna22
February 4th, 2006, 09:08 PM
I will. And, I'll let you know when I hear or see anything interesting. One thing I just noticed is that they've marked off with flags and such the area for the Tides and I have heard that should break ground in the next month or so. And, after that, it will be the Gang building, not the Parkhomes. They also expect Treasure Island to be in sometime in early 2007, maybe late this year.

And (I keep thinking of things) I was also told that the Gang building will be so unique that unlike normal buildings where the floorplans are fairly standard for 1, 2, 3 bedroom models, this one will have numerous floorplans for each size condo, so many that their selling plans are affected. Also, the condos will be heavy on the 1, 1+den and 2 bedroom plans rather than huge penthouses and 3/4 bedroom plans like in the Chandler.

The Urban Politician
February 4th, 2006, 09:30 PM
I will. And, I'll let you know when I hear or see anything interesting. One thing I just noticed is that they've marked off with flags and such the area for the Tides and I have heard that should break ground in the next month or so. And, after that, it will be the Gang building, not the Parkhomes. They also expect Treasure Island to be in sometime in early 2007, maybe late this year.

And (I keep thinking of things) I was also told that the Gang building will be so unique that unlike normal buildings where the floorplans are fairly standard for 1, 2, 3 bedroom models, this one will have numerous floorplans for each size condo, so many that their selling plans are affected. Also, the condos will be heavy on the 1, 1+den and 2 bedroom plans rather than huge penthouses and 3/4 bedroom plans like in the Chandler.

^ Wow, you have been a delightful addition to this forum. Welcome to SSC and we all hope you stick around for a VERY long time! :)

But seriously, you are either highly involved in Lakeshore East or perhaps you are Jeanne Gang herself! ;)

rgolch
February 4th, 2006, 09:34 PM
I will. And, I'll let you know when I hear or see anything interesting. One thing I just noticed is that they've marked off with flags and such the area for the Tides and I have heard that should break ground in the next month or so. And, after that, it will be the Gang building, not the Parkhomes. They also expect Treasure Island to be in sometime in early 2007, maybe late this year.

And (I keep thinking of things) I was also told that the Gang building will be so unique that unlike normal buildings where the floorplans are fairly standard for 1, 2, 3 bedroom models, this one will have numerous floorplans for each size condo, so many that their selling plans are affected. Also, the condos will be heavy on the 1, 1+den and 2 bedroom plans rather than huge penthouses and 3/4 bedroom plans like in the Chandler.

Wow, just walks into the forum, and earns immediate open arms acceptance. I think I speak for everyone when I say "Welcome Aboard." As you can guess, we are all junkies of this website, so we love anyone who can give us a fix.

Anna22
February 4th, 2006, 09:37 PM
^ Wow, you have been a delightful addition to this forum. Welcome to SSC and we all hope you stick around for a VERY long time! :)

But seriously, you are either highly involved in Lakeshore East or perhaps you are Jeanne Gang herself! ;)

LOL!!! No, I am not Jeanne Gang, though I hear she is a very interesting woman and highly talented nor do I work for LSE. I do however know quite a few who do and through a combination of those people, do hear certain things pretty early on. The project is going even better than expected and the Regatta is quite ahead of schedule.

I'm in that area quite a bit so I'll take some photos as the Chandler and the Tides go up and post.

Anna22
February 4th, 2006, 09:41 PM
Last for today. Yes there will be a 2nd tower south of the Gang tower on Columbus but those plans are in the future. And, there are three more buildings planned in the area of the Chandler.

Frankly, everyone involved with this project are quite excited and enthusiastic. Many of those working for LSE and its rental management company live in the development and many of their friends have and are buying into the condo buildings. To me, that says a lot about their faith in it. One day soon I will be living there also. I'm looking forward to it, to say the least!

Chi_Coruscant
February 4th, 2006, 11:25 PM
Anna22, your info are amazing and insightful! Thanks so much! Please stick around with us. We are thrilled to have you onboard.

One question: Anything's going on the front of Upper Wacker Drive? There were arches connecting 2 or 3 buildings which we all saw at the oriignal LSE master plan. Any idea about them?

Anna22
February 5th, 2006, 12:30 AM
I haven't heard about an 'arch' per se but someone did mention that when the Tides is built, it will connect with the Shoreham and then will connect with Upper Wacker, so maybe that has something to do with the arch concept. I'll keep my ears open and see what I can find out.

ChicagoLover
February 5th, 2006, 04:34 AM
Wow, an insider! I am trying to restrain myself. That said, what will the LSE developers do (if anything) to cover up the 3-level viaduct making up Wacker Drive that is now exposed?

nomarandlee
February 5th, 2006, 04:46 AM
I dunno ChicagoLove but it has to be dealt with eventually. Hopefully someone has a plan for it, ANYTHING!!

The Urban Politician
February 5th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Wow, an insider! I am trying to restrain myself. That said, what will the LSE developers do (if anything) to cover up the 3-level viaduct making up Wacker Drive that is now exposed?

^ Well, the site plan for LSE clearly shows that there will be another "layer" of buildings north of the Shoreham and Tides, lining up along Wacker. I really don't think any connection between Shoreham and Tides will serve as that "gateway arch" the we have all seen depicted in the early renderings.

I am pretty confident that when all is done, the Wacker drive 3 level roadway will be covered up. Seems like a rather simple and silly thing for the developers to overlook

PrintersRowBoiler
February 5th, 2006, 09:51 PM
I just came from the sales trailer, and it was just announced this week that the building will be called AQUA.
It will be 80 stories tall. The first 40 stories will be a mix of retail, rental, and an extension to the Fairmont Hotel (Not sure if they will be hotel condos or just hotel rooms).
The building will be "contemporary and young" with a lot of glass.
It is expected to be completed in 2009 and it will sit at the NW corner of the site on Columbus.

spyguy
February 5th, 2006, 10:31 PM
Anna beat you to the punch my friend. I'm interested in this retail business. Since this is a continuation of the award winning Fairmont, I'm assuming it'll be something classy.

geoff_diamond
February 6th, 2006, 04:10 AM
Does the inclusion of Treasure Island mean that Target is officiall a no-go at this point?

geoff_diamond
February 6th, 2006, 04:16 AM
Oh, btw - for those who are interested. The Regatta should be topped at some point in the next two weeks (just my educated guess). Based on visual comparisons between it and the Shoreham (as well as The Parkshore) I would guess that what we're watching is the last floor. I haven't been over there in a few weeks to actually count, but, if someone could verify this, that would be great.

spyguy
February 6th, 2006, 05:30 AM
Does the inclusion of Treasure Island mean that Target is officiall a no-go at this point?

Might be a setback. Maybe we don't need a Super Target with a full service grocery store, but then again food is only a 1/3 or 1/4 of what Target sells. The rest is affordable clothing, furniture, some office supplies, and toys/electronics.

kingofdurians
February 18th, 2006, 01:19 AM
Lakeshore East Developers Carlins and Loewenberg Officially Merge


Last updated: February 16, 2006 11:04am

CHICAGO-Following years of collaboration, Magellan Development Group and NNP Residential & Development are forming a new corporate partnership under the Magellan name. The merged company and its affiliates are operating from their new headquarters at Three Illinois Center, 303 E. Wacker Dr.

Joel Carlins, president of Magellan, and James Loewenberg, head of NNP Residential & Development, will serve as co-chairmen of the new Magellan Development Group; David Carlins will assume the role of president. Magellan will continue to steer development activity, while the NNP Residential division of the new company will focus on property management and apartment marketing services. All Magellan and NNP Residential affiliates, including Loewenberg Architects, established by James Loewenberg's father and uncle in 1919, will continue to operate autonomously.

The partnership between Carlins and Loewenberg peaked with the development of Lakeshore East. The $4 billion, 28-acre mixed-use community is rising where the Chicago River meets Lake Michigan. Formerly an Illinois Central rail yard and shipping port, the site was briefly a nine-hole urban golf course. The Lakeshore East development plan allows for 10 million sf of properties, including up to 4,950 residences, a 6-acre public park, 2.2 million gross sf of commercial space, 1,500 hotel rooms, 770,000 sf of retail and a proposed elementary school.

Magellan's portfolio of condominium developments includes 21 West Chestnut Place; the Park Newberry; 630 North State Parkway; the Farallon; 600 North State Street; Admiral's Pointe; the Caravel; and the Park Alexandria. NNP's portfolio of condominium and apartment developments during the past 25 years includes State Place Condominiums; 2555 North Clark Street; Gold Coast Galleria; Landmark on the Lake in Milwaukee; One East Delaware Place; 1212 North LaSalle Street; and Ontario Place. Together, the two companies developed the Grand Plaza, Park Millennium; One Superior Place; and Dearborn Place rental communities.

Neither Carlins nor Loewenberg could be reached for comment by press time.

The Urban Politician
February 18th, 2006, 07:52 PM
Might be a setback. Maybe we don't need a Super Target with a full service grocery store, but then again food is only a 1/3 or 1/4 of what Target sells. The rest is affordable clothing, furniture, some office supplies, and toys/electronics.

^ I was always hoping for more boutique stores there anyhow. I mean seriously, does every neighborhood have to have a Target and Home Depot?

Frankie
February 20th, 2006, 11:54 AM
Lakeshore East Update: AQUA

I found this on one of the chicago architecture websites that look at occassionally. Its not much, and unfourtanetly there is no rendering as of yet but its still better than nothing.

Designed by: Studio/Gang/Architects
Construction Start: 2006
Construction Completed: 2009
Type: Skyscraper
Stories: 80
Maximum Height: 943 feet / 287 meters
(including spires, antennae, etc...)
Location: Columbus Drive at East South Water Street
Area: The Loop
Post Code: 60601
City: Chicago
Country: Illinois

>The details of this building are still being worked out. It is expected to be between 80 and 85 stories.

> This building is expected to have a Fairmont Hotel occupying the first 40 floors. It remains to be seen if it will be linked to the existing Fairmont Hotel across the street. The nearby Hyatt hotel spans several blocks this way, so it is a possibility that one large hotel will be formed, instead of two separate hotels or the Fairmont simply moving across the street.

Source: www.chicagoarchitecture.info/

I hope i cited the source correctly, i'm still very new to this

Chi_Coruscant
February 20th, 2006, 08:38 PM
^^Thanks, Frankie, and welcome aboard.

According to BVictor1 (a main sleuth for Chicago forumers), more info on Aqua may be released in April. We must be patience, though April is somewhat far away.

kingofdurians
February 22nd, 2006, 01:55 AM
I have pics of Aqua preliminary model by Gang, but I don't know how to post them, been trying for a while now but nothing seems to work.

Appreciate if anyone can provide detailed instructions.

forumly_chgoman
February 22nd, 2006, 02:11 AM
I have pics of Aqua preliminary model by Gang, but I don't know how to post them, been trying for a while now but nothing seems to work.

Appreciate if anyone can provide detailed instructions.

go to imageshack http://imageshack.us/

upload your pic --- itll take a couple of secs

then you will be provided w/ a few url to the pic -- i usually use the forth option

place it inside ---path to file ---

Chi_Coruscant
February 22nd, 2006, 02:36 AM
I have pics of Aqua preliminary model by Gang, but I don't know how to post them, been trying for a while now but nothing seems to work.

Appreciate if anyone can provide detailed instructions.

HURRY UP! btw, how in the world did you get an exclusive on Aqua?

spyguy
February 22nd, 2006, 04:18 AM
I have pics of Aqua preliminary model by Gang, but I don't know how to post them, been trying for a while now but nothing seems to work.

Appreciate if anyone can provide detailed instructions.


I hope this isn't a tease :D

www.imageshack.us !
Upload it then hit the "Host" button

Wait

Copy the URL they give you next to "Direct Link"

Paste that inside of the image tags PASTE URL HERE

Post message

:cheers: I hope you're online soon

Adam186
February 22nd, 2006, 04:45 AM
I can host it for you. Just email it to me (a_vanzee@msn.com). Also, I sent you PM so we can get you're attention. :) Everybody here (including myself) has been obbsessing over this tower for awhile now.

ChicagoLover
February 22nd, 2006, 06:12 AM
I wait with baited breath for the sketches...

Chi_Coruscant
February 22nd, 2006, 06:26 PM
The digging occured on the empty lot where the Tides will be built on. It looks like the site prep is underway.

Adam186
February 22nd, 2006, 07:38 PM
^Great, you better tell steely on ssp so he can update his rundown thread. :)

kingofdurians
February 22nd, 2006, 07:53 PM
chi-coruscant:
it's not site prep that you see at the Tides site, they're pot-holing (civil engineers are checking soil content, bearing, capacity, etc)

ChgoLvr83
February 22nd, 2006, 08:16 PM
So, kingofdurians, any success with those pics of AQUA? I mean no pressure or anything. :)

kingofdurians
February 22nd, 2006, 08:24 PM
chgolvr83,
this evening when i get to use a computer w/ broadband connection i'll be attempting to upload Aqua model (prelim/study plexi-glass and cardboard), typical floor plan showing unit lay-outs, amenities floor

also Tides color renderings(not finalized)

Adam186
February 22nd, 2006, 08:40 PM
Thanks for the info, king. Say, do you work for LSE?

pottebaum
February 22nd, 2006, 08:56 PM
That'd be awesome, king!

The Urban Politician
February 22nd, 2006, 09:39 PM
chgolvr83,
this evening when i get to use a computer w/ broadband connection i'll be attempting to upload Aqua model (prelim/study plexi-glass and cardboard), typical floor plan showing unit lay-outs, amenities floor

also Tides color renderings(not finalized)

^ Wow, King, we all would love to see them!

It seems that LakeshoreEast is producing a lot of interesting and secretively informative characters...

spyguy
February 22nd, 2006, 11:16 PM
But don't we already have a rendering of the Tides? Or has it changed?

ChicagoLover
February 23rd, 2006, 12:30 AM
KingofDurians... with the release of the scanned image of the Gang tower, you will be more than just King of those fruits.

Chi_Coruscant
February 23rd, 2006, 02:07 AM
*crawling slowly across the empty tract of LSE*
AQUA! I am thirsty! I want AQUA! :nuts:

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 02:19 AM
I'm especially interested in what Aqua will look like and the layouts will look like. This may be my future home. I love LSE, I'm making the move in a year or 2 after I graduate from college.

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 05:19 AM
Aqua study model - plexi-glass and cardboard
currently 83 floors
more images to come
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4493/aqua107qn.jpg

spyguy
February 23rd, 2006, 05:26 AM
Whoa- this is much different than what I thought. It's like a box, but wavy like BVictor said. The light beam at the top looks cool too.

ChgoLvr83
February 23rd, 2006, 05:37 AM
Thanks alot, kingofdurians. Dont be afraid to throw more pics at me. :) Wasnt quite what I thought either but I didnt know what to expect . Remember its a prelimenary model. It'll go through some refinements before its debut. But its cool overall. We just have to see detail, thats all.

ChicagoLover
February 23rd, 2006, 05:38 AM
Hmph. I don't know what I think about that. (Not good or bad just yet.)

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 05:38 AM
Note the undulating, wavy, uneven slab-edges that vary from floor to floor.
Cross our fingers that Walsh construction (the G.C.) pours the concrete properly.

One scheme proposed that each slab-edge be painted with a different color all the way up the building. Another one asked for the slab to taper down from 11" or 12" down to 6" or less at the slab-edge!!! Walsh would have to hire some sculptors to do that!

The interior designers have picked out the color schemes for the Aqua sales center at the end of wacker drive. Expect blue/teal/green--ish color schemes and wavy wallpaper. I think they'll be doing renovations to the sales trailer in the next few months.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/694/aqua063tc.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3159/aqua037pa.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4944/aqua046cd.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8643/aqua054kp.jpg

spyguy
February 23rd, 2006, 05:42 AM
That third pic looks wicked. I was really thinking of something different in my head (probably a bad idea) but it'll look awesome when you're near the building and yet it still fits the conservative square look of the skyline.

pottebaum
February 23rd, 2006, 05:45 AM
It's really cool when people like king come along! :)

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 05:46 AM
I like the close-ups, very cool. It's definetly diffirent from any box tower I've ever seen. :) Thanks king, and glad you figured out how to post these!

Chi_Coruscant
February 23rd, 2006, 05:46 AM
^^Thank you, King, for sharing your shots with us.

My reaction on Aqua: I like the wavy look and more importantly, it doesn't have Lowenberg's bland taste.

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 05:49 AM
Floor plans, still work in progress
sorry, I thought they were large enough to read

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/2128/aquaplan6ew.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6878/aquaplan7tr.gif

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 05:52 AM
Do know an estimated price range on the smallest unit apartment here? I want to live there.

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 05:53 AM
Thanks to Adam186 and Forumly Chgoman
for detailed posting instructions

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 06:00 AM
Do know an estimated price range on the smallest unit apartment here? I want to live there.

on the typical flr plan,
middle of the floor at very far left,
the unit with square column separating the kitchen from living room,
that's one of the smaller units - a studio.
around $400 per s.f.

it is flanked on either side by 1bed 1bath units.

ChgoLvr83
February 23rd, 2006, 06:01 AM
Big thanks, king. :)

spyguy
February 23rd, 2006, 06:05 AM
:eek2:


I must sincerely thank you!
:applause: :applause: :applause:

Great work!

ChgoLvr83
February 23rd, 2006, 06:10 AM
You dont have to do anything else on this board. Youre new to the forum and you pull this out your hat. This is one of the biggest anticipated project rendering or such we've nerds been waiting for along with Mandarin and 830 South Michigan. We can wait for those. Relax and chill brotha.

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 06:12 AM
Thanks again king. Do you get commission for selling a unit or refering? I'll hit you up for a unit. ;)

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 06:17 AM
i'll post full size pics next time,
not these lame-ass reduced ones!

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8062/site044bp.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8407/site028nl.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5577/site013lc.jpg

richardsonhomebuyers
February 23rd, 2006, 06:20 AM
Good job King. Guess I have to come out with Mandarin now. Maybe sometime this week I'll do it under a different name or email me someone else to post.

Lower Wacker
February 23rd, 2006, 06:23 AM
and while you're at it how bout 830 s mich?? ;-) think if aqua, mandarin, and 830 all came out in one week and were all equally as good.... :eek2: :eek2:

spyguy
February 23rd, 2006, 06:26 AM
Good job King. Guess I have to come out with Mandarin now. Maybe sometime this week I'll do it under a different name or email me someone else to post.

;) If you do, this would be one of the biggest weeks for proposals and news ever.

Also, that model of LSE is scary. 340 looks like a TMNT, not the beauty that it is now.

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 06:30 AM
Wow, this entire development is just amazing. Most everything in there has "Chicago Style" written all over it. King, you're the best!

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 06:31 AM
Thanks guys,

Woulda posted this weeks ago if I wasn't trying to figure it out myself, duh!
Anyways, I think it was last year sometime that I "broke" the news about the naming of the Chandler, they have now started drilling caissons and poured grade beams.

I'll scrounge around for rendering of the Treasure Island retail area, and the town-homes that are surrounding the park. I know those have been through numerous revisions.

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 06:34 AM
You're not going to get in trouble for doing all of this are you? That is the last thing we would want.

ChgoLvr83
February 23rd, 2006, 06:35 AM
You're not going to ge in trouble for doing all of this are you? That is the last thing we would want.

Thats what Im worried about now.

spyguy
February 23rd, 2006, 06:35 AM
Yeah so am I.

Please, no one make any threads about this outside of here unless it is OK with him or until it is officially released. I'll just pretend that this doesn't exist in my LSE thread too :D

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 06:39 AM
Yeah so am I.

Please, no one make any threads about this outside of here unless it is OK with him or until it is officially released. I'll just pretend that this doesn't exist in my LSE thread too :D


Yes lets try and keep this as quiet as possible, the pics of the plans are especially "sensitive" since even the sales associates haven't been given copies or even marketing brochures yet.

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 06:39 AM
Yeah so am I.

Please, no one make any threads about this outside of here unless it is OK with him or until it is officially released. I'll just pretend that this doesn't exist in my LSE thread too :D

Umm...Steely already created one on SSP and it's all over the boom thread already. :runaway:

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 06:46 AM
Good job King. Guess I have to come out with Mandarin now. Maybe sometime this week I'll do it under a different name or email me someone else to post.

Since we're on the topic, it was my understanding that the Mandarin Oriental was to occupy the first 40+ floors of Aqua!
Notice the transition floor about 2/3 up the model--that's where the hotel ends and the condos begin.

spyguy
February 23rd, 2006, 06:48 AM
I think it was Fairmont according to both Crain's and another user (Anna). Makes sense since it is across the street basically.

kingofdurians
February 23rd, 2006, 06:52 AM
I've got really old info. then

Adam186
February 23rd, 2006, 06:53 AM
^Ya, I thought the staking plan was Fairmont, apartments, condos.

Steely Dan
February 23rd, 2006, 07:18 AM
Yes lets try and keep this as quiet as possible, the pics of the plans are especially "sensitive" since even the sales associates haven't been given copies or even marketing brochures yet.

whoops! i didn't know you were trying to keep this all on the DL. this info on aqua all got transferred over to SSP (as always happens between the two sites) and i made a new thread about this tower over there. i have deleted all of the plan shots from the SSP threads though. i apologize for not checking with you first.

once a cat like this gets outta the bag.................

TheJim
February 23rd, 2006, 07:19 AM
Thanks for the leak kingofdurians. This makes me think of a modern day Marina Towers. I cant wait to see the final results.