During construction of the Circle Line in Singapore, some residents could feel the TBMs vibrating as it dug out the tunnels deep beneath their homes. Sometimes, after settlement in certain soil conditions, the ground sank a little. Another scenario faced was at one of the interchange stations where the existing line was also underground. The TBM hit a pocket of undetected groundwater which resulted in the existing line's station sinking about 1cm, enough to require trains to slow down as they departed to avoid derailment. So yes, underground construction isn't always as easy as people think. As for disruptions faced using the cut & cover method, Vancouver's Canada Line is a good example along Cambie Road.

So just out of curiosity, do the residents still feel the vibrants now? :nuts:

After construction, not that I know of. Its usually during construction that all these issues come out as the previously undisturbed soil is being moved about. Once the infrastructure is in place, then things are smoother. However, the location at which the tremors were felt as the TBM constructed the tunnel beneath has yet to enter passenger service - its only due by October this year. It is highly unlikely that residents will feel the vibrations.

Need to assess the location of tunnel portal as well.

To raise as much fund as possible, i suggest SPAD hold bids on station naming rights.A good location for the western portal of the tunnel through Bandar Utama would be just east of the NKVE overpass, around the Shell Station - there is ample land on the south side of Persiaran Surian to allow the train to dive under the road. The eastern portal would be at the end of Jalan Damansara in TTDI - the south end of the Penchala treatment plant, perhaps.

Naming rights can't help that much to raise money but why not. Actually, I'm shocked that they're willing to name 4 stations (The Curve, 1Utama, Leisure Mall & Phoenix Plaza) after shopping malls for free.

Cheers, m

A few Questions..

Im not sure will the ttdi n bu residents consent a tunnel to run beneath their houses? Will the empty plot owners game on the risk of expensive engineering work to minimize disruption to the line below in future?

how can the u/g line able to avoid properties when the line geometry is impossible to align with the tight streets in a dense place?

if the tunnel decision is succeeded to proceed, combination of cut n cover and the mined method ll be used. however, cut n cover takes large space and R.O.W for road temporary shifting. if there r no space, some lanes ll be close. not only the residents affected but the whole road non-resident users ll be.

when the tunnel pass thru the properties above, mined method is used but requires expensive n extensive underpinning work to hold the ground n structure above. should they bore with TBM machine, the cost tend to swell by additional 20% of the entire tunnel length cost to buy TBM machine alone. i dont think the contractor is willing for a short distance.The residents are quite misguided in some ways, thinking that they can build the MRT underground easily without any surface disruption. One even said that it can be expanded easily if it's underground! :bash:

It's not our fault if ppl do not educate themselves on the local impact of all forms of construction. Of course underground construction will be disruptive - and it will take longer than elevated.

An underground construction will still require acquisition of rights for some land under the properties but not as much as you would think. Build also Jalan Dataran Bandar Utama towards TV3 then build under the SHC Holdings office & cross LDP from underneath - then tunneling under Jalan Damansara.

That would reduce the impact on the houses along Jalan Damansara and the east side of the LDP.

I have already said that there is some space available along Pers. Surian in Bdr Utama, as well as the 1Utama parking lot. In TTDI Jalan Damansara is quite wide with tree areas on the south side and double right turn lanes etc. - so there would be room for some lanes to be diverted or closed.

Also, remember that the interchange with LDP will be free-flowing before 2014 as they are building another ramp there underground. So that means a lot of the traffic back up along Jalan Damansara will be reduced.

As for the contractor not wanting to do a short distance - the contractor is paid to do the job as requested. If the contractor is MMC-Gamuda then it's their project. So the cost is not an object to them as they are already getting the money.

Cheers, m

During construction of the Circle Line in Singapore, some residents could feel the TBMs vibrating as it dug out the tunnels deep beneath their homes. Sometimes, after settlement in certain soil conditions, the ground sank a little. Another scenario faced was at one of the interchange stations where the existing line was also underground. The TBM hit a pocket of undetected groundwater which resulted in the existing line's station sinking about 1cm, enough to require trains to slow down as they departed to avoid derailment. So yes, underground construction isn't always as easy as people think. As for disruptions faced using the cut & cover method, Vancouver's Canada Line is a good example along Cambie Road.

News report on sinking ground & tremor effect from TBM tunneling: http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20080524-66817.htmlCambie Road is also a good example because the residents & commercial property owners were promised that construction would be using TBM but the plans were changed to Cut & Cover late in the day to keep the costs under control.

Of course the private contractor had really low-balled the cost of the MRT - it only operates 2-carriage trains and has extremely short (50m, iirc) platforms.

Let's hope we do not end up in either kind of situation like that - disruptive cut & cover and/or extremely short (but wide) trains.

Cheers, m

The residents are quite misguided in some ways, thinking that they can build the MRT underground easily without any surface disruption. One even said that it can be expanded easily if it's underground! :bash:


I don't see how building underground route only can ensure easy expansion in the future.

Think of it, length of train platform can be built to prepare for eventual expansion (say 6 or 8 car) whether it is elevated or underground.

According to Eric Yong at a recent property gathering organised by "me", apparently the underground vibration is WORST than elevated eye-sore.

When the trains go through tunnels, houses at the top will face some vibrations and instability. It's like tremors from a mini earthquake. He referred to the SMART Tunnel Project and the residents of the nearby area during the construction time and today. And he further ask us to think about train frequency and its associated vibration.

While underground line may induce some vibration, there are solutions for it.

Vibration depends on the type of track.

There are types of track design that can be used, for example there are direct fixation fastener, floating slab track and floating ladder track.

Among those, slab track can attenuate the vibration.

Naming rights can't help that much to raise money but why not. Actually, I'm shocked that they're willing to name 4 stations (The Curve, 1Utama, Leisure Mall & Phoenix Plaza) after shopping malls for free.

Cheers, m

Well, after all we are paying taxes to the Government. And it will be at those stations on the spot.:)

Naming rights can't help that much to raise money but why not. Actually, I'm shocked that they're willing to name 4 stations (The Curve, 1Utama, Leisure Mall & Phoenix Plaza) after shopping malls for free.

Cheers, m

There are reasons why naming rights are important, in my opinion.

- Help raise fund for MRT construction (not much though)

- Increase publicity

- As there is competition in bidding station naming right, somehow, probably property developers willing to offer concessions or incentive to entice SPAD

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/184470-compensation-issue-for-klifd.html

With the MRT project expected to commence work in July, and scheduled for completion in 2016, it is imperative that the development schedule of the key components of 1MDB also move in tandem so as to deliver the desired impact on the government’s Greater KL Master Plan. Indeed, according to information from the 1MDB website, work on KLIFD will begin in mid-2011, while the MRT is expected to begin construction on July 16.

Cambie Road is also a good example because the residents & commercial property owners were promised that construction would be using TBM but the plans were changed to Cut & Cover late in the day to keep the costs under control.

Of course the private contractor had really low-balled the cost of the MRT - it only operates 2-carriage trains and has extremely short (50m, iirc) platforms.

Let's hope we do not end up in either kind of situation like that - disruptive cut & cover and/or extremely short (but wide) trains.

Cheers, m
Oh, I wasn't even looking at the shopowners' reactions. Instead, was focusing more on the level of disruption caused by all the digging requiring the road to be closed. As for the reasons why, I think construction needed to be expedited in view of the 2010 Winter Olympics held in the city. The tunnel boring method would've taken longer.

Certain platforms on the Canada Line are built to 50m which allow for one intermediate car of 10m to be added. The driving cars are both 20m long for a 40m train. Extensive retrofitting will be needed for underground stations with 40m long platforms.

Certain platforms on the Canada Line are built to 50m which allow for one intermediate car of 10m to be added. The driving cars are both 20m long for a 40m train. Extensive retrofitting will be needed for underground stations with 40m long platforms.

The set-up + actual work cost + disruption just to extend the underground platforms by 10m would be horrendous, I'd think it'd be cheaper to just saturate the network with more trains rather than trying to make provisions for longer ones.

I don't see how building underground route only can ensure easy expansion in the future.

Think of it, length of train platform can be built to prepare for eventual expansion (say 6 or 8 car) whether it is elevated or underground.exactly the point - how could people assume that building underground would allow for easy expansion....

Frankly, anytime you get off grade (above or below ground level) you incur huge costs - and underground is of course more expensive than above ground.

Roughed-in stations are a possibility but again, more land acquisition is required and it will increase the cost of construction.

But at the same time, if we look at the retrofitting of the Ampang Line stations (and Masjid Jamek, where most of the work is above ground), it costs a lot more to retrofit a station than it does to build it properly the first time.

Personally, I believe that we ought to be running 6-carriage MRT trains, 8 carriage LRT trains on the Kelana Jaya Line and 4-carriage (articulated) trains on the Ampang Line. That is how you plan ahead. But expanding the LRT station is going to be very tough.

Cheers, m

There are reasons why naming rights are important, in my opinion.

- Help raise fund for MRT construction (not much though)

- Increase publicity

- As there is competition in bidding station naming right, somehow, probably property developers willing to offer concessions or incentive to entice SPADI agree that naming rights are important, within limits - but like I said, they are not going to raise that much money.

Again, my issue is that if SPAD is trumpeting this "Value Management Scheme" to find extra revenue but they have already named the stations after shopping malls - even if these are working names, the idea of naming the stations after the malls has already been 'given away'.

So if they change the name back to Bandar Utama (for example) and tell SHC that if they want the station named 1Utama they will have to pay for it, SHC will certainly not be willing to offer as much money as they would have if the station were originally named Bandar Utama.

Cheers, m

Oh, I wasn't even looking at the shopowners' reactions. Instead, was focusing more on the level of disruption caused by all the digging requiring the road to be closed. As for the reasons why, I think construction needed to be expedited in view of the 2010 Winter Olympics held in the city. The tunnel boring method would've taken longer.

Certain platforms on the Canada Line are built to 50m which allow for one intermediate car of 10m to be added. The driving cars are both 20m long for a 40m train. Extensive retrofitting will be needed for underground stations with 40m long platforms.The shopowners' reactions were reflective of their anger & frustration because of:


The broken 'promise' that they would use the TBM under Cambie instead of cut & cover;
The idea which floated around that the project was delayed in order to make cut & cover necessary;
The idea that the PPP company did not plan & manage the project properly to avoid tight timelines, delays & cost overruns, and
The actual disruption of the street itself


And yes, the small stations & trains are problems as well.

Interestingly enough, the other consortium for the Canada Line was a Bombardier consortium that would have used the existing skytrain technology but their bid was rejected because their costs were too high. Also, it was argued that since the Canada line was 'separate' from the skytrain network they could use a different technology.

Cheers, m

wonder if the mrt can just being build at grade along the centre of jln cheras..

can safe lot of money kan,considering if elevated, during construction those line are likely closed anyway n new lane r build on reserve,why not just kept it closed

Good idea. I think it is possible to have at-grade MRT starting from Leisure mall station until balakong, i.e. on Jalan Cheras and Grand Saga Highway.

Have to sacrifice two middle lanes for this.


wonder if the mrt can just being build at grade along the centre of jln cheras..

can safe lot of money kan,considering if elevated, during construction those line are likely closed anyway n new lane r build on reserve,why not just kept it closed

Good idea. I think it is possible to have at-grade MRT starting from Leisure mall station until balakong, i.e. on Jalan Cheras and Grand Saga Highway.

Have to sacrifice two middle lanes for this.

As well as two trolls plazas, I meant tolls.

http://kvmrt.com.my/w/?page_id=928


The MRT will also have a station near KL Sentral where the station will be linked to the transportation hub via an underground walkway with travellators, lifts and escalators. The distance between the MRT station and the KL Sentral complex is about 200m.


This sounds shorter than the connection between Hong Kong station and Central station, as well as the three different stations of Osaka Municipal Subway in Umeda area (Higashi Umeda, Umeda and Nishi Umeda.

However, I would like separate those paid passengers as well as unpaid commuters, similar to those in Central station on Hong Kong MTR.

The residents are quite misguided in some ways, thinking that they can build the MRT underground easily without any surface disruption. One even said that it can be expanded easily if it's underground! :bash:

It's not our fault if ppl do not educate themselves on the local impact of all forms of construction. Of course underground construction will be disruptive - and it will take longer than elevated.

An underground construction will still require acquisition of rights for some land under the properties but not as much as you would think. Build also Jalan Dataran Bandar Utama towards TV3 then build under the SHC Holdings office & cross LDP from underneath - then tunneling under Jalan Damansara.

That would reduce the impact on the houses along Jalan Damansara and the east side of the LDP.

I have already said that there is some space available along Pers. Surian in Bdr Utama, as well as the 1Utama parking lot. In TTDI Jalan Damansara is quite wide with tree areas on the south side and double right turn lanes etc. - so there would be room for some lanes to be diverted or closed.

Also, remember that the interchange with LDP will be free-flowing before 2014 as they are building another ramp there underground. So that means a lot of the traffic back up along Jalan Damansara will be reduced.

As for the contractor not wanting to do a short distance - the contractor is paid to do the job as requested. If the contractor is MMC-Gamuda then it's their project. So the cost is not an object to them as they are already getting the money.

Cheers, m

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I did not know in this area that trees can be easily chopdown when last time few trees were brought down for road expansion, it end up in the newspaper soon after. Im not convince that those affected houseowners will easily give up even if we offer them far more than the market values. their mentality there r just too difficult to understand. I also cannot imagine how those people will react to some road closures especially along the tight r.o.w. at the road besides Persiaran Surian underpass and the traffic junction in front of Surian Tower.

besides, the tunnel shall be deep (perhaps 25m below?) to avoid all form of structure foundation (roadtunnel/bridges/school/houses) and u/g utility lines. for example, the tunnel must go under LDP u/c ramp n the Persiaran Surian tunnel. that means the excavation ll be massive and logistic disruption comes to mind. If we are to minimize work disruption, then alternatively TBM bore tunneling shall be used and site logisitic will be only limited at the tunnel portals. however as i said, the contractor may not willing to buy a bore machine for such short route. they ll favor a wide-ranging disruptive method like cut n cover + mined method but not necessarily cheap due to heavier wall/underpinning support and more soil volume to be excavated out.

I appreciate if you can narrow down to the two most critical areas how ll this work out: Persiaran Surian-Dataran Bandar Utama and the SHC office-LDP. Can the line turning curvature fit into the short distance SHC-LDP and LDP-Sprint Highway?

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I did not know in this area that trees can be easily chopdown when last time few trees were brought down for road expansion, it end up in the newspaper soon after. Im not convince that those affected houseowners will easily give up even if we offer them far more than the market values. their mentality there r just too difficult to understand. I also cannot imagine how those people will react to some road closures especially along the tight r.o.w. at the road besides Persiaran Surian underpass and the traffic junction in front of Surian Tower.

besides, the tunnel shall be deep (perhaps 25m below?) to avoid all form of structure foundation (roadtunnel/bridges/school/houses) and u/g utility lines. for example, the tunnel must go under LDP u/c ramp n the Persiaran Surian tunnel. that means the excavation ll be massive and logistic disruption comes to mind. If we are to minimize work disruption, then alternatively TBM bore tunneling shall be used and site logisitic will be only limited at the tunnel portals. however as i said, the contractor may not willing to buy a bore machine for such short route. they ll favor a wide-ranging disruptive method like cut n cover + mined method but not necessarily cheap due to heavier wall/underpinning support and more soil volume to be excavated out.

I appreciate if you can narrow down to the two most critical areas how ll this work out: Persiaran Surian-Dataran Bandar Utama and the SHC office-LDP. Can the line turning curvature fit into the short distance SHC-LDP and LDP-Sprint Highway?James

I am not saying that a lot of the trees will have to be chopped down. I do not know what specific lands are going to be acquired either. What I am saying is that Persiaran Surian has a wide monsoon drain on the north side, and Jalan Damansara has a wide road allowance with mostly commercial buildings on the north side (mostly set well back from Jalan Damansara itself) with two-lane right turnings.

That means the argument that the road allowances are two narrow (whether for above or underground) is actually not based on numbers.

Ideally TBM would be used - and they can and should reuse the TBMs that will be digging the KL tunnel.

Yes, there is room for the turning curvature at the points mentioned-I've seen wide trains turn in tighter spaces (and yes, it can be noisy but that's the challenge).

The big concern would be how the tunnel would be affected by the underpass at Pers. Surian and the future underground ramp at the TTDI interchange (LDP / Jalan Damansara)

Cheers, m

The big concern would be how the tunnel would be affected by the underpass at Pers. Surian and the future underground ramp at the TTDI interchange (LDP / Jalan Damansara)



I share your concern too. the only way is dig deeper n that means the tunnel length ll be longer to adjust to the track gradient.

Is it true in practice the track gradient shld be capped at 3%? thanks in advance.

Good idea. I think it is possible to have at-grade MRT starting from Leisure mall station until balakong, i.e. on Jalan Cheras and Grand Saga Highway.

Have to sacrifice two middle lanes for this.There are two very good examples of MRT built in expressways - Allen Road in Toronto (Yonge-University -Spadina Line) and the Dan Ryan Expressway (Red Line).

As you can see from the photos below, while the MRT can be built with very tight tolerances, in practice it will occupy more than just 2 lanes worth of space. Remember, the trains themselves are approximately 3m wide (the width of the typical road lanes) already.

Toronto:

Allen Road: Image courtesy of Torontoist.

http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/02/3/6/7/88942183946453277.jpg

View of subway in the middle of Allen Road, looking south. Wilson station is in the foreground, with Yorkdale Station in the background across the 401 Highway.

http://torontoist.com/attachments/HamutalDotan/20101019ward10allen.jpg

Chicago:

A Red Line train at Sox/35th station in the middle of the Dan Ryan Expressway (Peter Erlich at Light Rail Now)

http://www.lightrailnow.org/images02/chi-rrt-RedLine-trn-Dan-Ryan-Sox-35th-stn-54252-19930722-cameo_Peter-Ehrlich.jpg

Overhead view of the Dan Ryan Expressway courtesy of Huffington Post:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/55063/thumbs/s-DANRYAN-large.jpg

Cheers, m

I share your concern too. the only way is dig deeper n that means the tunnel length ll be longer to adjust to the track gradient.

Is it true in practice the track gradient shld be capped at 3%? thanks in advance.Some companies claim the ability to climb grades up to 5-6% (ART Mark II and Monorail respectively) - I don't know what the capability of the latest MRT trains are but generally, 3% is a cap for existing lines.

It would also depend on how many trucks are powered.

As you see, it does get more an more complicated when the road infrastructure is considered - and complication = costs - no wonder SPAD is interested in having the line elevated.

Underground can be done but SPAD has to explain how much it will cost per section instead of saying it will cost '5x as much' in general.

Cheers, m

There are two very good examples of MRT built in expressways - Allen Road in Toronto (Yonge-University -Spadina Line) and the Dan Ryan Expressway (Red Line) of Chicago.


That's the exact idea whci has been tried by Expressway Authority of Thailand (conceived in 1972) buit it failed to conceive ANY mass transit line until BMA has started to come up with BTS Skytrain in 1992 which force the government to come up with MRTA by separatign MRTA out of Expressway Authority of Thailand in 1994. :ohno:

That's the exact idea whci has been tried by Expressway Authority of Thailand (conceived in 1972) buit it failed to conceive ANY mass transit line until BMA has started to come up with BTS Skytrain in 1992 which force the government to come up with MRTA by separatign MRTA out of Expressway Authority of Thailand in 1994. :ohno:running MRT in the middle of an expressway sounds logical, but in practice you end up with a congested expressway and buses as well as an MRT that does not carry as many passengers as it could.

Running buses or komuter trains along an expressway (or in the case of Transperth, in the middle of an expressway does seem to work better since there are fewer stops in the service.

MRT is better-off running under a street that is full of people & shops.

Cheers, m

SPAD: MRT will be completed on schedule
By SHARIDAN M.ALI Friday April 8, 2011
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/8/business/8438982&sec=business

Project delivery partner to finish project if contractor fails to do so

KUALA LUMPUR: The mass rapid transit (MRT) system's project delivery partner (PDP) should step in and complete any works in the MRT project if the awarded contractors fell behind schedule, said Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) CEO Mohd Nur Kamal.

“Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB), the PDP and the work package contractors would sign a tripartite agreement to ensure that the MRT project development would be carried out according to the target cost and stipulated time frame.

“This is why we need experienced contractors to be the PDP so that it can step in and finish the job within the target cost and time in case the work package contractors fail to do so. The PDP will be compensated accordingly as per the agreement for the work package contractors,” he told reporters at media briefing yesterday. This is first of the weekly briefing session on development of the MRT project.

The PDP for the MRT is MMC-Gamuda Joint Venture Sdn Bhd, in which Gamuda Bhd and MMC Corp Bhd hold equal shareholding,

The PDP had come under some scrutiny as it is a new concept in project management. The PDP concept provides a single point of accountability to deliver the entire project within the agreed time and cost targets, or it will face financial penalties. The risk of delays and cost overruns is now borne by the PDP for a fee.

On the fee structure of the PDP, Mohd Nur said it was to be finalised before the MRT ground breaking ceremony in July.

“The total cost of this MRT first line will also be finalised once the alignment, design and engineering aspects of the project are fixed,” he said.

A public display of the MRT lines and stations will be displayed until May 14. To date, about 95% of the 3,000 those who have viewed the public display supported the project.

SPNB managing director Shahril Mokhtar said the pre-qualification process for contractors had started.

Pre-qualification is a process where contractors are assessed whether they are eligible to bid for the various MRT job contracts.

“We have advertised applications for the pre-qualification exercise in March for two main packages - the elevated civil work packages as well as the elevated stations and depots packages.

“The pre-qualification application will end on Apr 16 and to date, more than a 100 companies had applied.

“It is expected that the first contract for the MRT will be awarded in November,” he said.

In the pre-qualification process, contractors are evaluated on minimum paid-up capital, track record, average annual construction turnover and they must have done and completed at least one civil engineering work in the past five years.

For the tunnelling works, Mohd Nur said the initial tendering process would start in July and contracts would be awarded in December.

“It is important to note that, the tendering and awarding of the contracts are done transparently through open bidding process,” he said.

On the awarding process, Mohd Nur added that a one-stop technical committee that consisted of representatives from PDP and SPNB would evaluate all the bids for contracts and prepare a report to be recommended to one-stop procurement committee at Ministry of Finance (MOF) level.

“MOF will then inform SPNB who the successful bidders are,” he said.

^^ so thats mean the construction will begin by January 2012?

Underground option for MRT being considered
2011/04/08
http://www.nst.com.my/articles/04spad-3/Article//Article

KUALA LUMPUR: The Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) is keeping its options open on the final alignment of the Sungai Buloh-Kajang mass rapid transit (MRT), including how much of the line will run underground. SPAD chief executive officer Mohd Nur Ismail Kamal said this was in light of feedback from the public and residents affected by the project.

"We're not ruling out any possibility, including the suggestion by residents of Bukit Damansara who are calling for the line to run underground through their area.

"However, we have to consider the cost of building underground rails and stations, which will be five and 10 times more respectively, compared with building elevated ones."

Nur Ismail yesterday said SPAD invited the public to give their views on the MRT project before closing the public display of the project proposal on May 14.

The three-month-long public display is being held at the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (Menara DBKL), Petaling Jaya City Council (Menara MPPJ), Shah Alam City Council, Selayang Municipal Council and Kajang Municipal Council, as well as at Bangsar LRT station and SPAD office in Menara Dayabumi since Feb 14.

Nur Ismail said many of the residents at areas where the proposed MRT line passes through, although having received notices, might not face acquisition.

"The notice is to inform the public that the general land area has been gazetted for possible acquisition.

"However, the exact plots of land to be acquired will only be confirmed after we have received public feedback and consultations with relevant parties."

He added that the purpose of gazetting, which would stop the selling of these properties, was to prevent speculation on the land value.

Nur Ismail said although the project tenders would only be opened in July until August, actual work would start between November and December this year.

The ground-breaking for tunnelling and station projects at Semantan, Cochrane and Sungai Buloh will be on July 8.

He added that the actual cost of the MRT project had yet to be decided.

He said SPAD would be holding weekly media briefings to get the views and feedback at its public display and public meetings.


Read more: Underground option for MRT being considered http://www.nst.com.my/articles/04spad-3/Article//Article#ixzz02sKzUQOl

I'd rather they consider the 6 car-long platforms request than to appease those Datuks & Datins living there.

Property along proposed Sg Buloh-Kajang MRT line cannot be sold
By TAN KARR WEI Saturday April 9, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/4/9/central/8445108&sec=central

THE notices have been served under Section 4 of the Land Acquisition Act to freeze the selling of property in areas identified for the Sungai Buloh-Kajang MRT line.

Land Public Transport Commission (LPTC) chief executive officer Mohd Nur Kamal said notices had been put up by the Department of Land and Mines (PTG) in areas within a 60m corridor of the proposed project.

Mohd Nur was briefing on the issue that had been frequently asked by residents in the affected areas at the Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad office in Menara UOA, Bangsar, recently.

“This does not mean that your property will be acquired. It is done to stop any transaction and property speculation,” he said.

Also present at the briefing were LPTC chief development officer Azmi Abdul Aziz and MMC-Gamuda executive director Datuk Azmi Mat Nor.

Mohd Nur said once they had identified the property to be acquired, Section 8 of the Act came into place and the affected owners would be informed and compensation given.

“If they are not satisfied with the offer, they can appeal and negotiate with our valuators,” he said.

LPTC is now having meetings and briefing sessions with local councils, elected representatives, residents and non-governmental organisations.

“We are taking into account all the suggestions and comments so the alignment has not been finalised,” he said, adding that the final alignment is expected to be decided by the end of June.

Commenting on the call by several residents associations to have the MRT fully underground, Mohd Nur said they were not ruling out the possibility but the move would incur additional costs.

“We have to strike a balance between meeting the people’s needs and to stay within our budget because additional costs would be a burden to taxpayers,” he said.

He added that the cost of having underground tracks was three to five times more than elevated ones while underground stations between five and 10 times more.

He also clarified that the ground-breaking session scheduled for July did not mean that the tenders had been given out.

“We are just carrying out preliminary work at the Semantan, Sungai Buloh and Cochrane stations.

“The tenders for the various contracts will be open in June or July and awarded in November, when the major work will begin,” he said.

running MRT in the middle of an expressway sounds logical, but in practice you end up with a congested expressway and buses as well as an MRT that does not carry as many passengers as it could.

Running buses or komuter trains along an expressway (or in the case of Transperth, in the middle of an expressway does seem to work better since there are fewer stops in the service.

MRT is better-off running under a street that is full of people & shops.

Indeed ... MRTA just pick 1/4 of Ratchada ring/Rama 4/ and the route that connect Bangsue - Hua Lamphong and Eastern railway togather .. infact, about 1/4 of that Ratchada Ring has bene originally plan as Bangsue - Klong Tan railway (proposed in 1938 - ladn purchase done in 1950) it has never been conceived other than the expansion of Bangsue railway yard and Phaholyothin Freign terminal ... and those railway land has become

1. Hor Wang School,
2. Chatuchak Park
3. Rotfai Park
4. PTT HQ
5. Chatuchak Weekend marker
6. Market Organization
7. Entertainment strip along Ratchada Ring.
8. Cutural Road (the road gogi nto Royal City Avenue)
9. RCA - (Royal City Avenue)

Still no update on 2nd MRT or overall urban transportation plan by SPAD..:ohno:

Another great image - A 3-carriage "The Ride" LRT (about the size of our Ampang LRT) from Denver, Colorado (US) in the middle of the interstate highway.

http://lrt.daxack.ca/Denver/hires34.jpg

This LRT can also operate on the streets in mixed traffic, as well as above and underground if necessary.

Cheers, m

There are two very good examples of MRT built in expressways - Allen Road in Toronto (Yonge-University -Spadina Line) and the Dan Ryan Expressway (Red Line).

As you can see from the photos below, while the MRT can be built with very tight tolerances, in practice it will occupy more than just 2 lanes worth of space. Remember, the trains themselves are approximately 3m wide (the width of the typical road lanes) already.

Toronto:

Allen Road: Image courtesy of Torontoist.

http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/02/3/6/7/88942183946453277.jpg

View of subway in the middle of Allen Road, looking south. Wilson station is in the foreground, with Yorkdale Station in the background across the 401 Highway.

http://torontoist.com/attachments/HamutalDotan/20101019ward10allen.jpg

Chicago:

A Red Line train at Sox/35th station in the middle of the Dan Ryan Expressway (Peter Erlich at Light Rail Now)

http://www.lightrailnow.org/images02/chi-rrt-RedLine-trn-Dan-Ryan-Sox-35th-stn-54252-19930722-cameo_Peter-Ehrlich.jpg

Overhead view of the Dan Ryan Expressway courtesy of Huffington Post:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/55063/thumbs/s-DANRYAN-large.jpg

Cheers, m

http://torontoist.com/attachments/HamutalDotan/20101019ward10allen.jpg

This what what i want to see more off for our preposed MRT its about getting people to leave their cars in the suburbs, not just going thru the dense areas.Sungai Buloh and kajang will need something like this big time!Charge $1 ringgit a day or better still free to encourage people to take the train into the city:)

http://torontoist.com/attachments/HamutalDotan/20101019ward10allen.jpg

This what what i want to see more off for our preposed MRT its about getting people to leave their cars in the suburbs, not just going thru the dense areas.Sungai Buloh and kajang will need something like this big time!Charge $1 ringgit a day or better still free to encourage people to take the train into the city:)A good MRT should be able to do some of both - but ultimately, the MRT needs to have people in the area or the area becomes dead. There are many examples of stations that are completely dead, unsafe areas.

Also, it depends on what "city" you are referring to. Some people will take the MRT from Kota D'sara to Bdr. Utama, for them that is the "City" (especially since Bdr. Utama will be getting more and more dense).

Other ppl want to drive into Kajang to take the MRT - but Kajang is already a "city" (dense, urban).

It has to be a fine balance. The station in the foreground of the image above is Wilson station in Toronto - it is literally in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by parking lots and also the location of one of the depots for that line. Wilson used to be the terminal, but the terminal was extended further north to Downsview station.

Downsview is also in the middle of nowhere but there is a road intersection there - so the property along the north side of the intersection is being developed into apartments. Wilson is also seeing some development but not as much as Downsview which is in a "town" area.

Now Yorkdale station, in the background, exists to serve the Yorkdale Shopping Centre, (Canada's first suburban shopping mall, opened in 1964). Aside from the mall, there is an intercity bus terminal located on site.

It is quite possible that the bus terminal will be expanded in the future as well.

So, to use the example of Toronto, density does not exactly matter as much as jobs nearby & patrons using the station.

Cheers, m

KL!Anything they come up with this mrt project will have to forward thinking ,there only more and more cars on the road.If its just peak hours traffic is their prime concern.They will have rethink this whole idea.The peoples mindset will have to change about their transportation needs to get to KL at off peak hours.
Even if this parking lot is out of nowhere it still gives the people the alternative to park their cars.

I would like to see a rail station with dedicated bus lanes for feeder bus for that locality.

Hub (rail station) + spoke (feeder bus runs on dedicated lanes with enhanced traffic signal at traffic light junctions).

I would like to see a rail station with dedicated bus lanes for feeder bus for that locality.

Hub (rail station) + spoke (feeder bus runs on dedicated lanes with enhanced traffic signal at traffic light junctions).

They can even begin on planning on having dedicated bus transfer services between stations. Consider it as partial but functioning ring feeders between the lines.

i.e between stations;

TTDI - Kelana Jaya
Plaza Phoenix - Bdr Tasik Selatan.
Ampang - Jelatek.

If the conditions are right, it make sense wouldn't it ? rather than taking the MRT from KD then change trains at KL Sentral and backtrack to get to the KJ Line stations at Puchong. Might as well alight at TTDI and take a bus to the KJ station which is 4km away. That would shave around 15+ stations trip to the city and back.

Yes, it does make a lot of sense.

Throw in dedicated bus lanes.

And show these bus services on the overall integrated LRT map.



They can even begin on planning on having dedicated bus transfer services between stations. Consider it as partial but functioning ring feeders between the lines.

i.e between stations;

TTDI - Kelana Jaya
Plaza Phoenix - Bdr Tasik Selatan.
Ampang - Jelatek.

If the conditions are right, it make sense wouldn't it ? rather than taking the MRT from KD then change trains at KL Sentral and backtrack to get to the KJ Line stations at Puchong. Might as well alight at TTDI and take a bus to the KJ station which is 4km away. That would shave around 15+ stations trip to the city and back.

If built, I will take MRT to Kajang Satay (I heard the MRT station is next to it?) once every week.

They can even begin on planning on having dedicated bus transfer services between stations. Consider it as partial but functioning ring feeders between the lines.

i.e between stations;

TTDI - Kelana Jaya
Plaza Phoenix - Bdr Tasik Selatan.
Ampang - Jelatek.

If the conditions are right, it make sense wouldn't it ? rather than taking the MRT from KD then change trains at KL Sentral and backtrack to get to the KJ Line stations at Puchong. Might as well alight at TTDI and take a bus to the KJ station which is 4km away. That would shave around 15+ stations trip to the city and back.

Yes, it does make a lot of sense.

Throw in dedicated bus lanes.

And show these bus services on the overall integrated LRT map.

I agree with that.

Imagine if someone wants to travel from Damansara (area served by MRT) to Subang Jaya (future LRT extension), if one relies only on rail (MRT + LRT), it would mean someone has to ride MRT from Damansara area to Pasar Seni, then from Pasar Seni to Subang Jaya on LRT, that doesn't make sense and it is a time wasting ride.

A dedicated transfer bus service, will not only avoid such situation, but also serve unserved areas along the route, providing flexibility in public transport travel, as well as making public transport ride more practical.

[QUOTE=bukhrin;75802441]They can even begin on planning on having dedicated bus transfer services between stations. Consider it as partial but functioning ring feeders between the lines.

i.e between stations;

TTDI - Kelana Jaya
Plaza Phoenix - Bdr Tasik Selatan.
Ampang - Jelatek.

It makes perfect sence.:cheers:

KL!Anything they come up with this mrt project will have to forward thinking ,there only more and more cars on the road.If its just peak hours traffic is their prime concern.They will have rethink this whole idea.The peoples mindset will have to change about their transportation needs to get to KL at off peak hours.
Even if this parking lot is out of nowhere it still gives the people the alternative to park their cars.Yes, but they need to develop an holistic & total public transport system.

With respect to the bus plan, they are "working on it". Feeder buses - they are working on it. Bicycle facilities & transport oriented develop - working on it.

But they still maintain the separateness, the "silo mentality" and separation of "bus here, rail there"

That's why we're really hoping that the new COO will realign SPAD from "Road, Rail, Freight and Terminals" divisions to "Urban Transport, Interurban Transport, Freight & T.O.D."


Urban Transport - Regulation of stage buses, taxi, MRT, LRT, Komuter, short haul buses, Monorail, minibus, etc.
Interurban transport - Regulation of long-distance & express buses, tourism buses & intercity train service
Freight - regulation of land freight - lorries and train
T.O.D. - Terminals and Transport Oriented Development including Land-Use Planning.


The one thing that does not fit is School & Factory buses - they fit best as "Urban Transport" but in a secondary category.

Cheers, m

If built, I will take MRT to Kajang Satay (I heard the MRT station is next to it?) once every week.wah - promise? Can you really eat that much satay?

Cheers, m

:lol:Satay express .Once upon a time ago they were the best around but these days emm

:lol:Satay express .Once upon a time ago they were the best around but these days emm

A bit off topic, ha ha,

Agree on that, now the satay are mass produced and pre-cooked. They only warm it up a bit before serving.

Take short breaklah once a while and smell the satay smoke from jalan peel instead.That would be less than 3 min walk from the perposed cochrane stn some time in year 2016 that if the coffee shop not far from the st john ambulance hq would still be therelah:cheers:

The MRT and the future in 2016:


Guy: I want go Kajang eat satay. So hungry today.

Girl: I want go Pavilion shopping for latest dress. It's Mom's birthday tomorrow.

Guy: But do we have time to go to two different places?

Girl: Ermm... we can take MRT !!

Guy: Yay! So will stop at Pavilion for half n hour, but darling dont waste too much time browsing k. I want eat satay at Kajang by 1.00pm.

Girl: NO! No! Later my new dress will smell like Satay....

Guy: Errmm.. so Kajang satay first lah. When returning home, dropped by at Pavilion.

Girl: So bad lah you didn't priority me.

then an uncle walk by and say

"u two,crazy ahh? what MRT?..tunnel pon belum korek,korek,korek

then an uncle walk by and say

"u two,crazy ahh? what MRT?..tunnel pon belum korek,korek,korekand the girl say "yeah, y so kiasu one - n-e-way, why must take MRT so far? My friends' boyfriends all got car! Why you shj takde car?"

etc.etc.

Cheers, m

:lol:By then if this mrt thing doesn't happen,Even those street cleaners,dishwashers even the besi burok guy will be driving ok then we all screwed big time:lol:

Just hire the top guns from HK MTR or SG MRT to oversee the whole MRT project... give them ultimate authority to run and manage the show... pay them in millions of dollar... problem solved, no?

MRT service can ease parking woes (http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/2toa/Article#ixzz1JHCqHvWq)
2011/04/11

PETALING JAYA: The parking problems at University of Malaya Medical Centre (UMMC) seem to be spiralling out of control as the limited number of parking lots cannot cope with the rising number of cars entering the facility.

Its administration is hoping the relevant authority will look into the possibility of having an MRT station within its compound.

Speaking to Streets recently, UMMC deputy director for development Dr Mustafa Ali Mohd said they are keen to work and develop the idea with the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD).

"We can afford to create a space and we have a green area which is ideal for a station to be built. The station will serve the patients, UMMC and faculty staff as well as the public, and link them seamlessly to the compound here. The land is currently empty, covering about 50,000 square metres.

"We can suggest to SPAD a strategic area and if they are keen on realigning the route to the hospital, we are more than happy to work with them and plan it together," he said.

....

Responding to the calls by UMMC, Land Public Transport Commission chief executive officer Mohd Nur Kamal said: "We will consider it for future lines including rail or bus services."Best solutions:

1) extend the MRT Line 2 (Circle Line) into Petaling Jaya Selatan, PJ Old Town, Taman Jaya and UMMC - then back to Mont Kiara & Sentul as planned

2) extend the LRT from Seri Petaling through PJ Selatan, PJ Old Town, Taman Jaya, UMMC and up to Bandar Utama - as proposed by Fikir Runding back in 2007

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/005_runding_fikir_alignment.jpg

Cheers, m

Chin: Consider public comments over proposed MRT line
By TAN KARR WEI Tuesday April 12, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/4/12/central/8460337&sec=central

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2011/4/12/central/m_4gan.jpg
Concerned: Task force (front, from left) unit deputy head Franki Gan Joon
Zin, Chin, Mok, Bukit Bintang division chairman Chua Tiam Wee, secretary Ng
Chin and (back, from left) committee members David Yoong Weng Leong and
Daniel Ling Sia Chin looking at the public display at the DBKL lobby.

THE comments and suggestions made by the public on the proposed Sungai Buloh-Kajang MRT line should be taken into account before the alignment is finalised, said Federal Territory MCA 1Malaysia Task Force head Banie Chin.

He said many people were still not clear about the MRT line and hoped the project would benefit the people instead of burdening them.

Chin, who is also a Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) advisory board member, was speaking to reporters at the DBKL headquarters in Jalan Raja Laut with other task force members.

The public display of the proposed MRT line is now at the DBKL headquarters and several other local councils in the Klang Valley.

MCA KL City Plan bureau chief Mok Soon Cheong said the Land Public Transport Commission (LPTC), Syarikat Prasarana Negara and Gamuda-MMC JV should hold more public forums instead of focusing on specific groups.

Mok said the MRT project would help to alleviate traffic congestion in the city but the location of stations and feeder bus routes should be properly planned.

“We have to change people’s mindset to use the MRT,” he added.

He said a person should not be spending more than five minutes to walk from their homes to a bus station to take a feeder bus to get to the MRT station.

Among the other points raised by the task force are:

*In order for the train to be sustainable and expandable in the long term, the train should have a capacity of a minimum eight-car train (the current capacity is for four-car trains) throughout the whole route to accommodate future ridership volume;

*This line should be the main artery for KL’s MRT system and to be sustainable, one or two stations should be designated as the main underground route for future expansion as an interchange with multi-level stations so that sufficient depth should be allocated for;

*Stations should be situated at or near road junctions so that more exit points can be planned to allow for frequent and regular feeder bus service;

*Feeder bus stands should have covered walkways to encourage all weather usage;

*To minimise congestion at stations, consider fares that are inclusive of feeder bus ride;

*Stations with park-and-ride facilities should also have a good feeder bus system because extended parking is not economical; and

*Local authorities should give favourable planning approval for new mixed developments near the stations to help sustainability of the whole system.

Just hire the top guns from HK MTR or SG MRT to oversee the whole MRT project... give them ultimate authority to run and manage the show... pay them in millions of dollar... problem solved, no?

I like ur idea very much !without a doubt they will award most of contracts to chinese (china)contractors that would make our so called "contractors"very the unhappy big time:cheers:

If built, I will take MRT to Kajang Satay (I heard the MRT station is next to it?) once every week.

totally agree with u.for me very weekend my family and I will ride those MRT driverless system.....might be the longest driverless metro system in the future.Hopefully :banana:

when Greater KL is on the right track,i guarantee nost people will try to use MRT instead of private vehicles on the road.The government must put everything that had been planned earlier to at least reduce traffic congestion on the road by having artery MRT lines.....I heard there will be MRT 2 and MRT 3 in the future and by 2020 we all can be proud of KL.......so many MRT lines with efficient feeder bus services.

On the MRT 3 will serve areas around SHAH ALAM and terminates at KLANG from the KL sentral station.I ciTY and Uitm campus SA and all the goverment offices in Shah Alam will be served by this MRT line.

The government must put everything that had been planned earlier to at least reduce traffic congestion on the road by having artery MRT lines....

sometimes i would wonder what if there was no Commonwealth Games 98 back then..we could have just seen all the current lrts network complete perhaps Only by now..

Yup I agree, the Commonwealth Games definitely was a catalyst back then for what we have now.......If we were to host another major sporting event by 2020, hmmm.....who knows wat will happen yeah...

Yup I agree, the Commonwealth Games definitely was a catalyst back then for what we have now.......If we were to host another major sporting event by 2020, hmmm.....who knows wat will happen yeah...

errr, bankrupt ?

i hope in july the construction will commence soon.....i dont want to see any delay because we want development in KV........10 million people reside around KV in 2020 so need a better MRT network and BRT system.

errr, bankrupt ?

naahh...., the gov will not going bankrupt. they will let petronas bankrupt first then they will blame petronas for bad/corrupt management. :lol:

naahh...., the gov will not going bankrupt. they will let petronas bankrupt first then they will blame petronas for bad/corrupt management. :lol:

clever..clever:lol:

errr, bankrupt ?

Oh no no no no, is true what you say but please it should not happen. Don't care short term care for long term. Upgrade for good reasons okay, upgrade and doing non-sense will cause us bankrupt.

sometimes i would wonder what if there was no Commonwealth Games 98 back then..we could have just seen all the current lrts network complete perhaps Only by now..on a similar note, if we had not built the first LRT using the KTM railway sub + elevation, wonder what our rail network would look like now - maybe a whole different set of LRT/MRT lines along with expanded KTM plus ERL to Subang Airport.

Cheers, m

naahh...., the gov will not going bankrupt. they will let petronas bankrupt first then they will blame petronas for bad/corrupt management. :lol::) Based on just a simple analysis of assets & liabilities, I'd rather have Petronas in charge of the government than the other way around.

Under the current situation - one has to wonder what would happen - if Petronas would bail out the government or simply bail out.

There are many examples of once "national" companies that have been privatized and moved internationally, to a level beyond the country that first invested in them.

Canadian National (now called CN), Canadian Pacific, Federal Express to name but a few companies in the transport industry.

Cheers, m

when Greater KL is on the right track,i guarantee nost people will try to use MRT instead of private vehicles on the road.The government must put everything that had been planned earlier to at least reduce traffic congestion on the road by having artery MRT lines.....I heard there will be MRT 2 and MRT 3 in the future and by 2020 we all can be proud of KL.......so many MRT lines with efficient feeder bus services.

On the MRT 3 will serve areas around SHAH ALAM and terminates at KLANG from the KL sentral station.I ciTY and Uitm campus SA and all the goverment offices in Shah Alam will be served by this MRT line.

MRT line does not necessary nid to drive into the heart of the KL city centre..
Perhaps line from Klang to Shah Alam to Cheras or from Klang to Shah ALam to Kepong.. :cheers:

So not all the line nid to pass by KL sentral and chg line from thr.. :nuts:
Crazy lar, Imagine KL sentral is the only main transfer point.. Every1 will have to go to KL sentral den only go to other place.. :nuts:

MRT line does not necessary nid to drive into the heart of the KL city centre..
Perhaps line from Klang to Shah Alam to Cheras or from Klang to Shah ALam to Kepong.. :cheers:

So not all the line nid to pass by KL sentral and chg line from thr.. :nuts:
Crazy lar, Imagine KL sentral is the only main transfer point.. Every1 will have to go to KL sentral den only go to other place.. :nuts:

its easier to change to another line at KL sentral the name of it shows already the centre of transport hub in KL.we need to have MRT...because MRT is more reliable and frequencies are much better compared to KTM komuter.....i really used LRT at the moment to go KLCC,sogo and any major shopping malls within the vicinity of LRT stations.very convenient.....

i do hope KL might be like Singapore one day but it takes time.......:)

its easier to change to another line at KL sentral the name of it shows already the centre of transport hub in KL.we need to have MRT...because MRT is more reliable and frequencies are much better compared to KTM komuter.....i really used LRT at the moment to go KLCC,sogo and any major shopping malls within the vicinity of LRT stations.very convenient.....

i do hope KL might be like Singapore one day but it takes time.......:)

Haha.. Even Bangkok will be better than KL after 10 years..
Hmm, I have a question, the 50 bil Ringgit is only for the current Sungai Buloh - Kajang MRT? or it include the other 2 MRT and LRT extension? :cheers:

Haha.. Even Bangkok will be better than KL after 10 years..
Hmm, I have a question, the 50 bil Ringgit is only for the current Sungai Buloh - Kajang MRT? or it include the other 2 MRT and LRT extension? :cheers:

bangkok is too big city and the population is 3 times more compared KL...i have been to bangkok twice and i really impressed with their MRT station features.i like Bangkok,Singapore and KL.....all big2 cities and everything is there.

if i am not mistaken that 50 bil Ringgit include all MRT 1,2 and 3........they start first the MRT 1 first because why?? the answer is they intend to develop that menara warisan in this coming future.second KLCC.....:banana:

Jakarta will be an ideal city to live if they have MRT....unlucky they do not have one....
i have been to jakarta also....too many cars and congested.....just imagine bumper to bumper crawl for almost 10 kilometres all the way.....

but they are patience at one time when facing these maniac traffic congestion.what to do so many people living in a small island called JAVA.

Oh no.. we dun nid a second KLCC, totally waste of money.. Hmm, if not mistaken, Bangkok have roughly 12 million population, while KL having 4-5 million including suburban rite?

Yea, too bad for Jakarta, and they building the BRT lane making the traffic more worse..

I think there are some points here abit incorrect, as per my sources.

RM50 billion is just a publicised budgeted figure for the proposed whole MRT. It doesn't mean anything, and you'll never know the real cost.

Perhaps, James or someone else can tell us how QS and engineers work out a budget for a project.

From my audit experience (some PLC companies), there's always a difference between realised actual costs and budgeted costs.

Looking at things, I believe MRT 1, 2 and 3 would cost well above RM50 billion.

Something additonal here:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/mrts-first-contract-runs-into-controversy/

[QUOTE=t3ars_culprit;76096227]Oh no.. we dun nid a second KLCC, totally waste of money.. Hmm, if not mistaken, Bangkok have roughly 12 million population, while KL having 4-5 million including suburban rite?

Yea, too bad for Jakarta, and they building the BRT lane making the traffic more worse..[/QUOTE

ya KL around that figure......
but i must admit KL is my idol city in malaysia....everything you can find there.....from food,clothes,local household items,fashions,anything.....

but many people always have negative thinking about living in KL.....they said overcrowded,always jammed here and there.....but they didnt realise that other neighbouring cities also facing the same problem even worse than KL....

I think there are some points here abit incorrect, as per my sources.

RM50 billion is just a publicised budgeted figure for the proposed whole MRT. It doesn't mean anything, and you'll never know the real cost.

Perhaps, James or someone else can tell us how QS and engineers work out a budget for a project.

From my audit experience (some PLC companies), there's always a difference between realised actual costs and budgeted costs.

Looking at things, I believe MRT 1, 2 and 3 would cost well above RM50 billion.

Something additonal here:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/mrts-first-contract-runs-into-controversy/

i dont care how much the cost might be.....this project is meant for "RAKYAT" also.easy to commute from one place to another.one utama got MRT station bring me a relief for not have to wait for bus anymore.....

Oh no.. we dun nid a second KLCC, totally waste of money.. Hmm, if not mistaken, Bangkok have roughly 12 million population, while KL having 4-5 million including suburban rite?

Yea, too bad for Jakarta, and they building the BRT lane making the traffic more worse..

KL's population had reached about 7 million...

[QUOTE=t3ars_culprit;76096227]Oh no.. we dun nid a second KLCC, totally waste of money.. Hmm, if not mistaken, Bangkok have roughly 12 million population, while KL having 4-5 million including suburban rite?

Yea, too bad for Jakarta, and they building the BRT lane making the traffic more worse..[/QUOTE

ya KL around that figure......
but i must admit KL is my idol city in malaysia....everything you can find there.....from food,clothes,local household items,fashions,anything.....

but many people always have negative thinking about living in KL.....they said overcrowded,always jammed here and there.....but they didnt realise that other neighbouring cities also facing the same problem even worse than KL....

Haha.. Last few weeks ago, I drive car to SG on weekend, then we stuck in a small jam.. My brother said, waa singapore also got traffic jam 1 ar :lol:

Yea, I agreed Bangkok, Jakarta, Manila, Jam more worse den KL..

on a similar note, if we had not built the first LRT using the KTM railway sub + elevation, wonder what our rail network would look like now - maybe a whole different set of LRT/MRT lines along with expanded KTM plus ERL to Subang Airport.

Cheers, m

this ll be so much better. Wonder if the ktm brickfields (kl sentral) does not exist, the monorail could have easily integrate with lrt n komuter.

errr, bankrupt ?

while we scramble for food then, the first group to take the SOS flight out of the country ll be the politicians on the way to their oversea mansions.

bangkok is too big city and the population is 3 times more compared KL...i have been to bangkok twice and i really impressed with their MRT station features.i like Bangkok,Singapore and KL.....all big2 cities and everything is there.

if i am not mistaken that 50 bil Ringgit include all MRT 1,2 and 3........they start first the MRT 1 first because why?? the answer is they intend to develop that menara warisan in this coming future.second KLCC.....:banana:

According to census of 2010, Bangkok Metropolitan (Phra Nakhon side and Thonburi side) is now 8.25 Million people. However, it is a rule of thumb to include Samut Prakarn (1.83 Million people) and Nonthaburi to get the actual number of Bangkokians (1.33 Million people) withn Greater Bangkok Metropolitan.

Therefore, the total number of population within Greater Bangkok would be 11.41 Million People out of 65.4 Million People.

The area for Bangkok Metropolitan is 1,568.737 sq.km (already Dwafting Singapore) pust the area of Samut Prakarn (1,004.092 sq.km) and Nonthaburi (622.303 sq.km) => total 3195.132 sq.km ... How long of the mas transit system woudl be enough to cover scuh a large area - ONLY god knows -

Even though there is a proposal to creat such a massive mass transit system to ensure that 50% of 11.41 Million People could take electrified mass transit system to go around .... How much to spend to realize such a system?

However, it would better to cover those who live in Samut Sakhon (Mahachai), Pathum Thani and Chacheongsao (Paed Riw) very soon even though the the general convension of 3 provincves of Greater Bangkok still a save bet.

REF: http://www.dailynews.co.th/newstartpage/index.cfm?page=content&categoryId=38&contentID=131717
http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A3

this ll be so much better. Wonder if the ktm brickfields (kl sentral) does not exist, the monorail could have easily integrate with lrt n komuter.I still stand by my view that KL Sentral should have been built on the site where MidValley is today. We would still have the malling of Brickfields (in the redevelopment of the KTM Kuarters and train staging area) but there would be better service (bus, LRT, monorail and Komuter) in Brickfields.

The challenge, of course, would have been shifting the Port Klang rail sub tracks over the Klang River - a challenge but not impossible.

Cheers, m

KL's population had reached about 7 million...

KL's pop is abt close to 2mil
Klang Valley + KL maybe around 5-6 mil

on a similar note, if we had not built the first LRT using the KTM railway sub + elevation, wonder what our rail network would look like now - maybe a whole different set of LRT/MRT lines along with expanded KTM plus ERL to Subang Airport.

Cheers, m

say.. isnt there a provision for a rail track development from SJ to those areas heading Subang Airport?

say.. isnt there a provision for a rail track development from SJ to those areas heading Subang Airport?there's an abandoned single-track railway spur between Subang Jaya KTM station and the Subang Airport.

EDT on the spur would be relatively easy - and since most of the rail from the KL Sentral junction to Batu Tiga is 3 rails, it would be possible to run a Subang Airport Rail Link (not express but limited stop).

Cheers, m

there's an abandoned single-track railway spur between Subang Jaya KTM station and the Subang Airport.

EDT on the spur would be relatively easy - and since most of the rail from the KL Sentral junction to Batu Tiga is 3 rails, it would be possible to run a Subang Airport Rail Link (not express but limited stop).

Cheers, m
They should triple track from the MidValley junction till Petaling station, allowing trains to bypass the Angkasapuri and Pantai Dalam halts to stop at the Petaling station. And again triple track as far as possible, which I guess would be Kg. Dato Harun.

Would it be possible to link up to Sungai Buloh from Subang Airport? Could serve as a KTM ring if possible and potentially cut down on the number of people going through KL Sentral, though not so likely. It would provide those on the Pel Klang - Batu Caves route an option to change to the Sungai Buloh - Kajang MRT as well.

Why KTM?

Sorry I'm not a fan of KTM because it cannot be an urban rapid transit.

According to Eric Yong at a recent property gathering, we need to get MRT moving ASAP as to move people from different corners of Klang Valley. This is to stimulate economic vibrancy.

He said for now, Damansara people only move around Damansara/PJ, Kajang people only roam around Kajang, only Cheras people are spending more time at Bukit Bintang.

Further, we need to encourage more locals to use MRT to go to work, whilst foreigners to visit other parts of KL by creating new attractions. Perhaps getting KLCC-type tourists to visit a future "Satay Mall" in Kajang or "Batik Mall" in Sg Buloh.

It will be the vision of MRT for Damansara people to splurge in Bukit Bintang and then Kajang again, vice versa. Consultants are talking about a set goals to achieve a multi-impact economic spillover from the MRT. This is how business people see it.

hes a developer,surely MRT is great news particularly if it closed not near to their properties..
politician also like MRT,it is expensive,n popular with the voter

at the end of the day, we r the one that would end up financing the MRT,its not that ktm can't be urban rail transit,if they don't play2 they would be the single best thing to us, they had huge land reserve to allowed for train+property agenda,the cost to upgrade it is most cheaper.it more like the won't or they don't know how:lol:

just imagine if they upgrade their kl-klang line,build a 3rd rail,rehabilitate their rail,new trainset thats is longer n improve frequencies, and they can finance their expension with all those land along the track that they own,particularly onces near the klang river at klang to support the river of live programme..but no,najib gonna spend big and build a parallel MRT, roboh rumah org n take people land n run mrt on people front posh

Why KTM?

Sorry I'm not a fan of KTM because it cannot be an urban rapid transit.



I don't see why KTM cannot be an urban rapid transit. In Japan, JR East and JR West can run both long distance limited express service, as well as very frequent trains on Yamanote line (JR East) and Osaka Loop Line (JR West).

That said, I agree that MRT, especially Sg Buloh - Kajang line will certainly open more possibilities on creating new travel patterns among residents of Klang Valley. At the moment, Damansara residents usually head to One Utama/The Curve for shopping. With MRT, these residents will be able to travel to other areas, especially to the centre of KL.

I am still waiting for the MRT Circle Line.

As on having rail line to Subang Airport, I would like to see two rail lines.

First, having airport rail service on KTM line, using the abandoned Sri Subang line will increase accessibility to the airport from other parts of Klang Valley.
In my opinion, the service should not be limited to KL Sentral only, maybe can stop at stations such as Rawang, Sungai Buloh, Kajang etc.

Second, having people mover system from Lembah Subang station to the airport.

They should triple track from the MidValley junction till Petaling station, allowing trains to bypass the Angkasapuri and Pantai Dalam halts to stop at the Petaling station. And again triple track as far as possible, which I guess would be Kg. Dato Harun.

Would it be possible to link up to Sungai Buloh from Subang Airport? Could serve as a KTM ring if possible and potentially cut down on the number of people going through KL Sentral, though not so likely. It would provide those on the Pel Klang - Batu Caves route an option to change to the Sungai Buloh - Kajang MRT as well.As i recall, the Port Klang rail sub is triple track from the junction, past Angkasapuri all the way to Kg. Dato Harun. However, there are some missing segments and some areas where station platforms block the track.

This would have to be dealt with but there is no reason why it is not possible.

There is room for triple tracking between Kg. Dato Harun & Batu Tiga but they have only built bypass tracks at Setia Jaya and Subang Jaya.

As for connecting the Sri Subang spur line with Sg. Buloh - it is quite possible and I believe that KTM was proposing this in the Outer Ring Rail proposal.

Ideally, if the KTM bypass is built, the Sri Subang line would extend from Subang Jaya to meet the line, with another spur from Subang Airport to Sg. Buloh as part of the ORR.

Cheers, m

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As i recall, the Port Klang rail sub is triple track from the junction, past Angkasapuri all the way to Kg. Dato Harun. However, there are some missing segments and some areas where station platforms block the track.

This would have to be dealt with but there is no reason why it is not possible.

There is room for triple tracking between Kg. Dato Harun & Batu Tiga but they have only built bypass tracks at Setia Jaya and Subang Jaya.

As for connecting the Sri Subang spur line with Sg. Buloh - it is quite possible and I believe that KTM was proposing this in the Outer Ring Rail proposal.

Ideally, if the KTM bypass is built, the Sri Subang line would extend from Subang Jaya to meet the line, with another spur from Subang Airport to Sg. Buloh as part of the ORR.

Cheers, m
The additional track that comes in from MidValley and runs parallel to the Pel Klang - Batu Caves line merges with the westbound (Pel Klang) track before Abdullah Hukum LRT station or around that vicinity. As it hits Angkasapuri, it is only double tracked till Petaling station where it splits to 3 or 4 tracks (including one island platform on Batu Caves track). From Petaling it is triple tracked to between Jln Templer and Kg. Dato Harun. Here, the third track runs off to a factory, but last I saw, it was dismantled.

KTM has pretty much got the concept upside-down I feel. Halts should have bypass tracks and stations should have all services stopping. But well, if Melbourne can do with just double tracking, don't see why KTM can't. The Outer Ring line would be a good addition to the KTM network. :)

And I agree that the MRT would encourage new transport and travel patterns. I guess people tend to shop at their town's main mall mostly. I mean, if the mall has the usual big name outlets (Jusco/Metro, TGV/Golden Screens, McD/KFC/BK) why bother travelling further?

I think there are some points here abit incorrect, as per my sources.

RM50 billion is just a publicised budgeted figure for the proposed whole MRT. It doesn't mean anything, and you'll never know the real cost.

Perhaps, James or someone else can tell us how QS and engineers work out a budget for a project.

From my audit experience (some PLC companies), there's always a difference between realised actual costs and budgeted costs.

Looking at things, I believe MRT 1, 2 and 3 would cost well above RM50 billion.

Something additonal here:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/mrts-first-contract-runs-into-controversy/

Im not sure whether the advocator GAMUDA-MMC did factored in those yet-to be confirmed small-to-medium malays/bumis contractors involvement in their initial cost budgeting? You might have read some bumi contractors' associations were now publicly requesting to take some shares by pressuring the Govt...(in their case, small volume also don mind as long they made some decent profits and keep surviving). they may be eying for the tiniest packages ranging from 0.0001% to 0.0005% which work out approximately from RM 5 Millions to 25 Millions out of RM 50 billions work.

If they r to be included, the cost ll be ballooned because all parties want to make decent to huge profits they have locked in initially. besides, managing hundreds of small time contractors work is like managing hundreds of kids in a family. the cost n the duration ll be affected and we the public will suffer in the end. guess who's the biggest beneficiary if eventually it happened? the foreigners like indonesians n bangladeshis ll be happier because nowadays, they had becomes entrepreneur by directly take work order from the alibabas with cheaper price than the locals can afford to do. note; they too want a decent profit n hence inferior construction quality/management ll be even far worse.

KL's pop is abt close to 2mil
Klang Valley + KL maybe around 5-6 mil

population of Klang valley + KL = Greater KL, approximately 6 million, and keep on growing

if KL alone, 2 million only (and it wont grow much, until forever) since KL is a small enclosed area almost fully developed and mostly of the land is for commercial premises/buildings....

population of Klang valley + KL = Greater KL, approximately 6 million, and keep on growing

if KL alone, 2 million only (and it wont grow much, until forever) since KL is a small enclosed area almost fully developed and mostly of the land is for commercial premises/buildings....

IMHO, kl can still grow some more. area around klcc, a lot of land still undeveloped (still in parking lots). bukit bintang area also have a lot more area still not develop or waiting redevelopment.

6mil in kl is possible provided the infra to support it exists...

cant wait for this MRT to happen

population of Klang valley + KL = Greater KL, approximately 6 million, and keep on growing

if KL alone, 2 million only (and it wont grow much, until forever) since KL is a small enclosed area almost fully developed and mostly of the land is for commercial premises/buildings....

agree........Greater KL is growing everyday with lots of business activities there....

I like KL life busy and ideal for young generations in search for job prospects as well business opportunities to grow...:)

cant wait for this MRT to happen

me too.....i want to try that MRT...
MRT 1,2 and 3 fully operational by 2018.

for those living in KL,KV,selangor and negeri sembilan all good prsopects...
with coming MRT and continuous upgrading public transportation network enhabce quality of life and great mobility.

for those living in KL,KV,selangor and negeri sembilan all good prsopects...
with coming MRT and continuous upgrading public transportation network enhabce quality of life and great mobility.

one day (maybe by 2020), Greater KL, Seremban, Nilai, Sepang, forming a Mega Metropolis KL :banana:

there's an abandoned single-track railway spur between Subang Jaya KTM station and the Subang Airport.

EDT on the spur would be relatively easy - and since most of the rail from the KL Sentral junction to Batu Tiga is 3 rails, it would be possible to run a Subang Airport Rail Link (not express but limited stop).

Cheers, m

What?! There is an abandoned railway spur to Subang Airport. I didn't know that. Was it being used before, abandoned or cancelled during the 1998 Asian Financial Crisis. They should reuse it so that we can connect the airport and Subang Jaya KTM. Then again, they should use a spur line of the LRT to the Subang Airport itself. Have 4 stops on the spur line that would be the Subang Depot, Saujana, Terminal 1 and Terminal 3 itself. Wonder where was the abandoned rails. Whoever managed to have a glimpse of it, you can mind posting it here.:cheers:

If I remember correct, it was used for freight when Subang Airport was the main airport for KL.

Sri Subang line was slated to be electrified, however as the KLIA emerged, the Klang Valley double tracking scheme was modified and Sri Subang was excluded.

What?! There is an abandoned railway spur to Subang Airport. I didn't know that. Was it being used before, abandoned or cancelled during the 1998 Asian Financial Crisis. They should reuse it so that we can connect the airport and Subang Jaya KTM. Then again, they should use a spur line of the LRT to the Subang Airport itself. Have 4 stops on the spur line that would be the Subang Depot, Saujana, Terminal 1 and Terminal 3 itself. Wonder where was the abandoned rails. Whoever managed to have a glimpse of it, you can mind posting it here.:cheers:google earth is your friend. I think there are some aerial images of the line on the Malaysia forum of skyscrapercity in the Subang Airport thread.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6252/10470641.jpg

Note that in the image above, north is on the right, west is at the top, and south is at the left.

There are some images at http://subangskypark.com as well.

This post (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=52683817&postcount=195) has an article from early in 2010 mentioning a possible KTM link.

Cheers, m

Sri Subang line was slated to be electrified, however as the KLIA emerged, the Klang Valley double tracking scheme was modified and Sri Subang was excluded.that was a terrible mistake in my opinion. It's always best to enhance what already exists rather than always trying to build new.

Even if Subang Airport had been shut down, the railway could have spurred total redevelopment of the airport lands and developments further to the north.

Cheers, m

MRT project landowners will get due compensation
2011/04/24
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/MRTprojectlandownerswillgetduecompensation/Article/

KUALA LUMPUR: The government will pay landowners due compensation for land taken over for development of the Mass Rail Transit (MRT) project.

Federal Territories and Urban Wellbeing Minister Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin said he understood that they have to sacrifice their land for the project.

"The government will pay according to the market value. So in term of market value, you all will not lose out," he said when opening a forum on the MRT project at Chinwoo Stadium here today.

He said landowners affected by the project can negotiate with the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) on the land status.

"The matter can be negotiated with SPAD where some of the routes can be redistributed so they do not affect the property value.

"The MRT project will provide positive value to properties. KL City Hall has also been urged to give flexibility to developers along the route," he added.

Approved by Cabinet in Dec last year, the MRT project was placed under the 12 National Key Economic Areas (NKEAs).

Work on the RM50bil MRT project covering 51km and 36 stations is expected to start in July. -- Bernama

MRT project landowners will get due compensation
2011/04/24
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/MRTprojectlandownerswillgetduecompensation/Article/

KUALA LUMPUR: The government will pay landowners due compensation for land taken over for development of the Mass Rail Transit (MRT) project.

Federal Territories and Urban Wellbeing Minister Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin said he understood that they have to sacrifice their land for the project.

"The government will pay according to the market value. So in term of market value, you all will not lose out," he said when opening a forum on the MRT project at Chinwoo Stadium here today.

He said landowners affected by the project can negotiate with the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) on the land status.

"The matter can be negotiated with SPAD where some of the routes can be redistributed so they do not affect the property value.

"The MRT project will provide positive value to properties. KL City Hall has also been urged to give flexibility to developers along the route," he added.

Approved by Cabinet in Dec last year, the MRT project was placed under the 12 National Key Economic Areas (NKEAs).

Work on the RM50bil MRT project covering 51km and 36 stations is expected to start in July. -- Bernama

Or there is an option of building underground :)

Or there is an option of building underground :)even if they build underground there will be land acquisition.

Cheers, m

Chinese companies may bid for MRT job
By Sharon Tan of theedgeproperty.com
Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:48

KUALA LUMPUR: Apart from its political significance, the two-day visit by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao is expected to see some groundbreaking deals for the business sector.

On the cards is the RM5 billion double tracking job from Gemas to Johor Bahru that is expected to be firmed up during the visit. During President Hu Jintao's visit last year, Malaysia agreed to award the project to a company from China.

Among the front-runners for the project are said to be China Communications Construction Group and China Railway Construction Corp.

The local partner for China Communications is believed to be shareholders related to George Kent Bhd, which is linked to Tan Sri Tan Kay Hock, according to those involved in the construction industry.

The dark horse is China Railway Construction Corp. Who China Railway's local partner is, is not clear but among the names that have surfaced are Datuk Shafiq Sit Abdullah and Datuk Desmond Lim.

While Lim is well-known in corporate circles as the person behind Malton Bhd, the Pavilion and Farenheit 88, Shafiq is formerly from Sime Darby Bhd and has had shareholdings in several listed and unlisted companies.

But while the Gemas-JB job is expected to be firmed up, a major breakthrough for Chinese companies is that Wen's visit is expected to pave the way for them to participate in the RM40 billion Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project.

The Chinese are expected to be invited to bid for the tunnelling portions of the MRT project, which is scheduled to take off in July.

Based on initial estimates, the tunnelling section stretches about 7km and is expected to cost around RM14 billion. The entire project is set to cost RM40 billion.

The government has appointed a joint venture comprising Gamuda Bhd and MMC Corp Bhd as the project delivery partner (PDP), effectively the project manager. As the PDP, the Gamuda-MMC JV is to ensure that the project is completed on time and within budget.

The Gamuda-MMC JV will only participate in the underground tunnelling portion of the job on a Swiss challenge basis. It will not participate in any of the above-ground portions of the jobs.

Under the Swiss challenge, the Gamuda-MMC JV will be given the right to match any competing bid for the tunnelling portion. Local construction industry players have shied away from putting in a bid because they feel that as the PDP, the JV will have the upper hand.

"Nobody is going to spend money and time to put in a bid on a Swiss challenge basis. But the Chinese may be able to with their financial muscle," said an industry source.

China is home to some of the most advanced railway systems in the world, said industry players.

Beijing has an extensive rapid rail transit system that serves the urban and suburban districts. Its subway track length is ranked fourth in the world after Shanghai, London and New York with 14 lines, 172 stations and 336km of tracks.

I smell the mighty yuan in action here:lol:So they have no choice but to give it to the chinese contractors:lol:

MMC-Gamuda to build skills training centre
Published: 2011/04/27
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20110427141052/Article/index_html

MMC-Gamuda Joint Venture Sdn Bhd (MMC-Gamuda JV), the contractor for the Ipoh-Padang Besar Electrified Double Tracking Project (EDTP), will build its own Construction Training Centre to provide skills training for construction workers to build a massive tunnel for the Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project.

MMC-Gamuda JV Director Datuk Ng Kee Leen said upon completion, the training centre would be able to provide up to 4,000 places annually for construction workers, who were interested to undergo the training intensively.

"Our aim is to produce more skilled and efficient construction workers who will be at par with the world standard, especially in the construction of massive tunnels and heavy construction works."

He said this to reporters after witnessing the presentation of appreciation certificates by the Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB) chairman Datuk Ir Hamzah Hasan to 61 site supervisors for the EDTP in Tasik Gelugor today.

MMC-Gamuda JV is the only local company with the expertise in massive tunneling works such as in the SMART Tunnel project in Kuala Lumpur and the Kaohsiung MRT project in Taiwan.

The cost for the Klang Valley MRT project, which will link Sungai Buloh and Kajang, is estimated at RM36.6 billion and the first phase of the construction is expected to begin in July next year. -- Bernama

MMC-Gamuda to build skills training centre
Published: 2011/04/27
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20110427141052/Article/index_html

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The cost for the Klang Valley MRT project, which will link Sungai Buloh and Kajang, is estimated at RM36.6 billion and the first phase of the construction is expected to begin in July next year. -- Bernama

hey i tot the construction start July this year !.

hey i tot the construction start July this year !.

i think what it meant was physical construction.... most likely preliminary work will only start in july, then proceed to planning for logistics, land acquisition, etc... then only physical construction can start by that time it will be in 2012 or 2013.

all the above is subject to them having enough time to raise capital, announce tender, etc etc which all havent really started...

i think what it meant was physical construction.... most likely preliminary work will only start in july, then proceed to planning for logistics, land acquisition, etc... then only physical construction can start by that time it will be in 2012 or 2013.

all the above is subject to them having enough time to raise capital, announce tender, etc etc which all havent really started...ground breaking in July, with soil testing projects etc. continuing (some have started already).

We will likely see early project work (utilities diversions) in November. Real physical work (digging, piling works, station box construction) will not be starting until next year. I don't even think tunneling can start anytime before 2013 since they have to order the tunnel boring machines.

Cheers, m

I smell the mighty yuan in action here:lol:So they have no choice but to give it to the chinese contractors:lol:

Interesting comment.

Petaling Jaya residents raise issues at MRT public hearing
2011/04/29 By Dawn Chan
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/04dcbri/Article/

http://www.nst.com.my/articles/04dcbri/single
(From left) SPAD public and media relations manager Leong Shen-Li, Puasa
Md Taib, Adil Putra Ahmad and Amiruddin Maaris.
— Picture by Nurul Shafina Jemenon

PETALING JAYA: Various concerns which revolved around public safety, crime and traffic congestion pertaining to the Sungai Buloh--Kajang MRT were highlighted by Petaling Jaya folk in a briefing organised by the Public Land Transportation Commission (SPAD) on Thursday.

Held at the Civic Centre in Petaling Jaya City Council compound, the briefing was attended by more than 50 residents. It was conducted by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd's MRT general manager Amiruddin Maaris.

Also present were deputy mayor Puasa Md Taib and MRT project delivery partner, MMC-Gamuda JV's general manager Adil Putra Ahmad.

In the three-hour session, one suggestion put forward included the possibility of having the proposed Taman Tun Dr Ismail and Surian station run underground.

Residents said it would be better for the Surian station to run underground as the busy stretch is plagued with massive traffic congestion during peak hours.

As for the proposed MRT station in Taman Tun Dr Ismail, residents wanted it to go underground as it is too close to their homes, thus depriving them of privacy.

Residents also proposed the merger of three proposed stations, namely, Surian, The Curve and another at the TV3 area.

One resident advised that the new station be located at a driving range near Bandar Utama.

Amiruddin said they would study this proposal and look into its impact as each station has different catchment and ridership.

All Petaling Jaya Selangor Residents' Association Coalition president Johan Tung Abdullah suggested that closed circuit television cameras (CCTVs) be installed not only in the stations but also within its perimeters.

Amiruddin said residents have taken proactive steps by liaising with the Home Ministry to address social issues such as crime.

A resident also suggested that the proposed TTDI station, which will be built opposite the Fire and Rescue Department, be relocated to the nearby Damansara Uptown commercial centre.

She voiced her objection on grounds that the current congestion and parking problem near the Damansara Specialist Hospital are getting worse.

"The station is also too close too our homes and will deprive us of our privacy and on top of that, it will cause noise and air pollution," she said.

Puasa said two more briefing sessions will be held for residents from Taman Tun Dr Ismail, Section 17 and Section 16 and another with residents from Kota Damansara, Bandar Utama and Sungai Buloh.

A SPAD spokesperson said they were analysing the feedback.

"Briefings in Selayang, Shah Alam and Kajang have been done.

"SPAD will make the recommendations for the alignment to be finalised," he said.

The three-month public display of the proposed project ends on May 14. They are being held at City Hall, Menara MBPJ, Shah Alam City Council, Selayang Municipal Council, Kajang Municipal Council, Bangsar LRT station and the Spad office in Menara Dayabumi.

As for the proposed MRT station in Taman Tun Dr Ismail, residents wanted it to go underground as it is too close to their homes, thus depriving them of privacy.


I suggest they shld live underground because existing road traffics ll deprive their privacy too.

I suggest they shld live underground because existing road traffics ll deprive their privacy too.rubber car/monorail tires vs. LRT/MRT metal wheels.

Drivers busy watching the road/other cars vs. LRT/MRT passengers with their eyes everywhere.
:nuts:

Cheers, m

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[B]As for the proposed MRT station in Taman Tun Dr Ismail, residents wanted it to go underground as it is too close to their homes, thus depriving them of privacy.



Huh?? Privacy? I tot the MRT train window screen will be like censored
when pass by a building?? :)

I suggest they shld live underground because existing road traffics ll deprive their privacy too.

ya la...
they dont even think about all those affected by the construction of new highways.... current on-going example, MRR2 dispersion highway near pandan indah, very close to residential area, but the people live there never complain asking the highway to be built underground. becos the people able to think about other's need and they know about sharing and give-and-take values and not being selfish...

i think what it meant was physical construction.... most likely preliminary work will only start in july, then proceed to planning for logistics, land acquisition, etc... then only physical construction can start by that time it will be in 2012 or 2013.

all the above is subject to them having enough time to raise capital, announce tender, etc etc which all havent really started...

longer time, means more cost, everything goes up, not down

CIDB to train workforce for MRT project
Wednesday May 4, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/5/4/north/8564983&sec=North

THE Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB) will provide skills training to the workforce for the Government’s Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project.

Its chairman Datuk Hamzah Hasan said CIDB would train the workforce of MMC-Gamuda JV Sdn Bhd which was appointed as the delivery partner of the project.

“An estimated 130,000 jobs will be generated in the MRT project over the next 10 years and our training will create a skilled workforce with good practices that will reduce worksite accidents.”

He was speaking to reporters after presenting certificates to 61 MMC-Gamuda JV site supervisors, foremen and section heads, who had undergone a training programme at the Jarak worksite in Tasek Gelugor.

MMC-Gamuda JV is presently involved in the construction of the 329km-long Ipoh-Padang Besar electrified double track project which is expected to be completed at the end of 2014.

Hamzah said the training programme would eventually be upgraded to a world-recognised certificate.

“The board is also promoting the adoption of new technology such as the Industrial Building System and Green Building Index for sustainable buildings,” he added.

“The industry sees opportunities for builders to shift away from traditional methods and adopt practices that are in tune with the environmentally friendly global market.”

http://etp.pemandu.gov.my/eppslist.aspx?industryID=7

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First tender for MRT to kick off next month
By Hamisah Hamid Published: 2011/05/06
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/artie/Article/

KUALA LUMPUR: The first tender of the Klang Valley mass rapid transit (MRT) project, which is for the elevated guideway package, will open next month and the contract is expected to be awarded in November this year.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) group director of project development Zulkifli Yusoff said works on the first package of elevated track, which is between Maluri and Plaza Phoenix, will start by November or early December.

He said from then on, tenders will be called every month until end of next year. The underground track tender will be called sometime in December.

"Upon approval of the railway scheme in June, we will hold a ground-breaking ceremony in July. We hope to complete the overall project by December 2016 and the transit line will be opened for public by January 2017," Zulkifli said at a media conference yesterday.

Zulkifli said Prasarana will only invite local contractors to bid for packages where there is local expertise such as elevated track.

Other contracts such as the underground tunnel and MRT system, where there is no local capability, will be opened to international contractors.

However, foreign companies must form joint ventures with the locals.

The project is estimated at over RM36 billion, but Zulkifli said the overall cost can only be made when the final railway scheme is approved sometime next month.

On whether the cost will increase if there are changes to the MRT alignment or more stations and underground track, he said the underground track will cost five times more than the elevated track.

He said out of 6,000 responses received from the public, 5,000 are supportive of the project. Three main suggestions by the public centred on the MRT alignment, locations of the stations and feeder buses.

He said a special purpose vehicle (SPV) formed under the Ministry of Finance, will be responsible in getting the fund. The SPV will then disburse the fund to Prasarana.

MRT service to start in 2017
By CHRISTINA LOW Friday May 6, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/5/6/nation/8631045&sec=nation

KUALA LUMPUR: The much-awaited first Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) line from Sungai Buloh to Kajang will begin service in 2017, a month after it is expected to be completed.

However, the final alignment for the line has yet to be finalised as Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad is still holding public displays until May 14.

Its project manager Zulkifli Yusof said Prasarana is taking into account all suggestions and comments from the public.

“We are collecting the suggestions and will submit a report to the Land Public Transport Commission for the final decision on the track alignment and station locations,” he said at media briefing yesterday.

Zulkifli said they also hoped to be able to get the final railway scheme for the Sungai Buloh to Kajang line approved next month.

He said more than 6,000 comments had been received and the majority are positive and valuable suggestions, which would be useful and important. Zulkifli said they had briefed residents and business owners on the project over the past two months.

“Usually residents and business owners worry their land or building may be acquired for the project,” he said, adding that residents had a clearer picture of the project after attending dialogue sessions.

He said mitigation measures such as minimising the noise level had been submitted to the Department of Environment (DOE).

“DOE has approved all our mitigation measures and when work begins at the site, its officers will monitor and check if we are complying with the Environmental Management Plan,” he said.

Prasarana would hold a ground-breaking ceremony on July 8, if all goes according to plan.

Tenders for the works would only be called at the end of June and the contract awarded in November.

“That will be the first contract awarded for the MRT project, so you will see some work being carried out somewhere in November or December,” he said.

The first tender, he said, was for the elevated section which covers some 40km from Maluri to Plaza Phoenix.

Subsequently, tenders for different packages, such as civil works, system works, stations and underground works will be ongoing from June till the end of 2012.

“We have yet to determine the final project cost but it will be about five times more if we have to change elevated sections to underground,” he said on the possibility of having more stretches where the lines run underground.

Zulkifli added that Prasarana would definitely have sufficient time to reconfigure the alignment of the underground stations if needed as the tunnelling works would only start in December.

Foreign firms can bid for MRT jobs, but must have local partner
By SHARIDAN M.ALI Friday May 6, 2011
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/5/6/business/8622531&sec=business

KUALA LUMPUR: Foreign companies are allowed to bid for certain contracts in the development of the mass rapid transit (MRT) system, slated to break ground in July, provided that they partner with local companies.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd group director of project development division Zulkifli Mohd Yusoff said foreign firms would be allowed to bid for the tunnelling works, system and its other components such as signalling and power supply.

“This is because at this point of time there is limited local expertise in these areas locally. At the end of the day, the local partner could benefit from joint ventures from the transfer of technology.

“We will continue to assess the many components of the MRT system, and in the areas where we think there is enough local expertise, we will restrict the bidding to only Malaysian companies,” he told a media briefing on the MRT project.

For the first contract package, Zulkifli said the elevated guideway contract from Taman Maluri to Plaza Phoenix would be opened by end-June and the award was expected in November.

“The tendering process for the whole project will start in June and is expected to be concluded by the end of next year. Basically, the contractors will be evaluated on their track records, financial stability and experience,” he said.

On the cost of the MRT system that will run from Sungai Buloh to Kajang, Zulkifli said it would be announced after the alignment was finalised in early June.

The total length of the rail line is 51km, out of which 41.5km is elevated and 9.5km underground.

“The three-month public display will end on May 14 where we will include all comments and suggestions from the public in a report to be presented to Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD),” he said.

SPAD is currently working closely with Prasarana and the rail scheme project delivery partner, MMC-Gamuda Joint Venture Sdn Bhd, to review the final alignment, lower the project cost and ensure that studies are being done to fully minimise timeline and delivery risks.

Currently, 5,000 of out 6,000 respondents on the MRT alignment have given their green light to the projects as a result from the public display.

On the completion of this MRT first line, Zulkifli said the revenue service date or the MRT would be in operation by January 2017.

Anyone else get the feeling this MRT thing is getting rather top heavy ? :)
See, you have
1) Ministry of Transport
2) SPAD
3) Prasarana
4) MMC-Gamuda JV
Not sure if JKR will get involved at some stage or not
No wonder cost has to melambung naik lah :lol:

Soil testing have been spotted from Kota Damansara to Seksyen 17....

construction shud start this year.

many ongoing and upcoming dev in damansara will cause massive traffic jam.
even now pun dah worst time pergi dan balik kerja. tak tahan :bash:

construction shud start this year.

many ongoing and upcoming dev in damansara will cause massive traffic jam.
even now pun dah worst time pergi dan balik kerja. tak tahan :bash:

we have to sacrifice a bit for future.. i really hope and believe once the MRT is completed, people who work in semantan or KL CBD and vice versa, will use the MRT to got to work, thus cars on road get lessen....

all we need to do, dont be so paranoid

people can tolerate traffic congestion caused by construction of new highway/roads, but why people reluctant to tolerate traffic congestion caused by MRT construction? just becos they think they are too rich to use the MRT, and the MRT is not beneficial for them?

they should thank to those who ride lrt or monorail everyday,if x de la lrt or monorail kat kl nih,dieorg mesti x leh nk g keje ngan kereta ngan selesa nyer... :)

It's thumbs up for MRT project
2011/05/09 By Nuradzimmah Daim
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/4shb/Article/

KUALA LUMPUR: Some 6,000 comments have been received from the public regarding the Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd project development division group director Zulkifli Mohd Yusoff said of this, more than 5,000 gave positive feedback, supporting the proposed Sungei Buloh-Kajang MRT project.

"The main concerns include land acquisition from those staying around the project area, supporting facilities such as feeder buses, and alignment and locations of stations."

The public is also concerned about the noise pollution during construction and when the MRT starts operating.

"To lessen noise, we have included measures as required in the Environment Management Plan which has been approved by the Department of Environment.

"We will submit the feedback to the Land Public Transport Commission, which will determine whether we should organise another dialogue with the residents to inform them of the feedback," he said.

He added that some 30 dialogue sessions were held with the parties involved, including residents and business operators.

Also present was project delivery partner MMC-Gamuda joint venture director Datuk Azmi Mat Nor.

The proposed 51km MRT line is expected to be completed in 2016.

It will include 35 stations, of which 27 will be built underground and the remaining eight as elevated stations.

It's thumbs up for MRT project
2011/05/09 By Nuradzimmah Daim
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/4shb/Article/


It will include 35 stations, of which 27 will be built underground and the remaining eight as elevated stations.

This will be great if it is true. The writer should check her facts before publishing false info!! Someone should call NST to complain.

This will be great if it is true. The writer should check her facts before publishing false info!! Someone should call NST to complain.


HAHAHA 27 underground! :lol:

Terbalik lah...

This will be great if it is true. The writer should check her facts before publishing false info!! Someone should call NST to complain.

Years ago, my father who didn't even finish his diploma started his career as a reporter, I remembered then how he said have to research and recheck and double recheck the article against his sources and references.

Nowaday, this lady yang possibly ada degree and with the power of google at hand, can make such obvious fakap and become a reporter. How low have the profession becomes.

Years ago, my father who didn't even finish his diploma started his career as a reporter, I remembered then how he said have to research and recheck and double recheck the article against his sources and references.

Nowaday, this lady yang possibly ada degree and with the power of google at hand, can make such obvious fakap and become a reporter. How low have the profession becomes.

As low as the salary perhaps. That's what you get when you pay peanuts.

FT MCA hands over memorandum on MRT project to SPAD
2011/05/09 By Noel Achariam
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/3mrrtrr/Article/

KUALA LUMPUR: MCA Federal Territory has handed over a memorandum on the Sungai Buloh-Kajang MRT line project to the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD).

MCA Federal Territory chief Banie Chin Yen Foo handed it to SPAD head of special projects Tonny Yeap at the SPAD headquarters on Friday.

Chin said the contents of the memorandum were based on questions that were raised during the Sungai Buloh-Kajang MRT project briefing organised by MCA Federal Territory 1Malaysia Task Force Team and MCA Federal Territory City Plan Monitoring Bureau.

He said the briefing was conducted by Prasarana Negara Bhd project development division group director Zulkifli Mohd Yusoff to a crowd of approximately 100 at the Chin Woo Stadium in Jalan Hang Jebat on April 24.

"Members of the public, residents' association and non-governmental organisations raised many questions during the briefing. Prasarana Negara Bhd gave a good briefing. However, there were still questions that had yet to be answered," said Chin.

"We hope that Prasarana Negara Bhd will be able to answer the remaining questions, before the closing date of the MRT public display on May 14," he said.

MCA Federal Territory 1Malaysia team head Mok Soon Cheong said one of the main issues that needs to be addressed by SPAD before work commences on the MRT project, was on the feeder bus service.

"The routes should be well-planned so that there will be regular service. The bus routes should avoid traffic congestion and is convenient for passengers. There should be covered walkways as well," said Mok.

Some of the other questions posed by the MCA Federal Territory were on traffic management, park-and-ride facilities, underground and elevated stations, access routes for feeder bus services and land acquisition.

Yeap said SPAD will look into the suggestions and questions raised in the memorandum.

"The MRT project is still in the period of public display. We have received the memorandum and we will look into it and give our feedback," he said.

Residents want underground MRT
2011/05/09 By Dawn Chan
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/3sppd/Article/

KUALA LUMPUR: Calls for the Pusat Bandar Damansara and Semantan stations of the Sungai Buloh-Kajang MRT line project to run underground were echoed by Bukit Damansara Home Owners' Association members during a briefing recently.

Residents were unhappy to learn that the two stations will be elevated instead of being built underground. They said this would add to the traffic congestion and noise pollution in the area.

The meeting was organised by Syarikat Prasarana Nasional Bhd (SPNB) and the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD).

Association chairman Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Abdul Rahman handed over a memorandum to a SPAD representative, who assured that the document will reach its chairman, Tan Sri Syed Hamid Albar, before the two-hour session came to a close.

Aziz said the memorandum discussed the issue whether the MRT alignment in the area, which runs from Section 16 to Damansara Heights, should go underground or be elevated.

"They have to go underground. We do not oppose to the two stations but we don't want to cause hardship and suffering to the people.

"It should be to their benefit. It is also impossible to have two stations along the route when it is only about a kilometre apart.

"There should be only one MRT station along the stretch. I hope the possibility of going underground can be considered," he said, urging SPAD to plan the locations of the stations properly.

The construction costs and social impact of the elevated and underground options were also presented to the residents.

The construction of tunnelled stations will cost five times more than the elevated ones.

On social impact, the elevated stations will not cause any while the tunnelled option will see the acquisition of 22 double-storey link houses as well as Help Institute's open car park.

Prasarana project development division performance delivery officer Ibrahim Packeer, who briefed the residents, said there will be no property acquisition in Jalan Damansara Permai and Jalan Damansara Endah.

Only land on where two petrol stations, namely Esso and Shell will be taken over, said Ibrahim.

Concerns on noise pollution were addressed by Universiti Teknologi Malaysia's Institute of Noise and Vibration Professor Dr Mohd Salman Leong.

He said apart from the alignment, the Jalan Setiapuspa to Jalan Semantan will incorporate a semi closure barrier. He said it was the most cost effective method to trap noise and that residents will not be affected.

Also present was the MRT project delivery partner, MMC-Gamuda Joint Venture Sdn Bhd. There will be 35 stations along the 51km route of the MRT line.

The three-month public display of the proposed project ends on Saturday.

They are being held at City Hall, Menara MBPJ, Shah Alam City Council, Selayang Municipal Council, Kajang Municipal Council, Bangsar LRT station and the SPAD office in Menara Dayabumi.

Lol, seriously you'd think a Tan Sri would mencemar duli and take a train to work ? Typical Melayu Elit punya attitude. But if the gomen wants to razed whole virgin forest for a golf course they'd probably be the one cutting the ribbons.

if me i will ride on MRT if Klang valley is having most coverage MRT network..

other location like Kepong(taman ehsan,jinjang),mont kiara,selayang need rail service also.i do hope MRT 3 will be the answer for this......hopefully....PJ selatan such as taman medan is already clearly stated in the MRT 3 allignment.

Please make sure to give your feedback on the Sg. Buloh - Kajang MRT railways scheme (alignment) before 14 May 2011.

If you wish to give general feedback on the MRT, please do so - that way, SPAD can use your feedback to say that people support the MRT.

Of course people support the concept of MRT - MRT > LRT > Komuter > BRT >Regular bus for most people.

Of course, car is way above all of those concepts.

My guess is that most of the 5000 out of 6000 comments that "supported" the MRT were supportive of the MRT in general, while most of the "objections" were specific to the Sg. Buloh - Kajang Line.

Meaning that real support is not as high as SPAD wants ppl to believe.

Cheers, m

???? hmmm....not a good idea...tak adil macamni!!!

Give us RM36b MRT project, says Malay chamber

By Bernama
Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:32

KUALA LUMPUR: The Malay Chamber of Commerce Malaysia has asked the government to hand over the RM36 billion Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project, the country's biggest infrastructure project, to the chamber.

The chamber said it would undertake the mega project in collaboration with other contractors' associations.

"We'll implement the whole project in collaboration with other contractors' associations on a joint-venture basis or by acquiring the companies involved in the massive project," said chamber president Syed Ali Alatas.

He said the project, currently managed by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB), had imposed several conditions to companies intending to bid for the project, which seemed difficult for bumiputera contractors.

Among the conditions that seemed to block opportunities for bumiputeras are not allowing them to team up with any company at any stage and the requirement for RM10 million paid-up capital, he told a news conference. Syed Ali was giving feedback from the chamber's members on the MRT slated for completion in 2020.

With the tough conditions stipulated by SPNB, Syed Ali said only 37 companies or bumiputera contractors out of the 16,000 members of the Malay Contractors' Association of Malaysia would be able to bid for the project.

Association president Datuk Mokhtar Samad said the association urged the government to re-visit the conditions to enable more Malay contractors or bumiputeras to part take in the project.

"We hope the government will allow joint ventures or consortiums of bumiputera contractors to enable them to be involved in the project," he said.

"We are now holding on to the assurance given by SPNB Group managing director Shahril Mokhtar that bumiputera contractors will not be left out of participating in the massive development project," he added. — Bernama

???? hmmm....not a good idea...tak adil macamni!!!

Give us RM36b MRT project, says Malay chamber

By Bernama
Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:32

KUALA LUMPUR: The Malay Chamber of Commerce Malaysia has asked the government to hand over the RM36 billion Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project, the country's biggest infrastructure project, to the chamber.

The chamber said it would undertake the mega project in collaboration with other contractors' associations.

"We'll implement the whole project in collaboration with other contractors' associations on a joint-venture basis or by acquiring the companies involved in the massive project," said chamber president Syed Ali Alatas.

He said the project, currently managed by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB), had imposed several conditions to companies intending to bid for the project, which seemed difficult for bumiputera contractors.

Among the conditions that seemed to block opportunities for bumiputeras are not allowing them to team up with any company at any stage and the requirement for RM10 million paid-up capital, he told a news conference. Syed Ali was giving feedback from the chamber's members on the MRT slated for completion in 2020.

With the tough conditions stipulated by SPNB, Syed Ali said only 37 companies or bumiputera contractors out of the 16,000 members of the Malay Contractors' Association of Malaysia would be able to bid for the project.

Association president Datuk Mokhtar Samad said the association urged the government to re-visit the conditions to enable more Malay contractors or bumiputeras to part take in the project.

"We hope the government will allow joint ventures or consortiums of bumiputera contractors to enable them to be involved in the project," he said.

"We are now holding on to the assurance given by SPNB Group managing director Shahril Mokhtar that bumiputera contractors will not be left out of participating in the massive development project," he added. — Bernama

Just let the capable one to complete the project, they can be sub-contractor too...

^^ agreed...this is about kepentingan rakyat...not kepentingan for some companies who just think they deserve a piece of big MRT pie or just because they have org dalam and big inside cable (regardless they r bumi on non-bumi companies)...for once, do this for rakyat....and get it done quick...

i don't rely wanna support a project which ringgit to dollar comparison is more expensive that the singaporean one

let just put nurul izzah cheap monorail solution lah...

Give us RM36b MRT project, says Malay chamber




No big deal if they want the big Mac right away. in exchange, return back all the billions worth of projects like schools, longkangs, toilets, kampung roads to MMC-Gamuda to do it.

i don't rely wanna support a project which ringgit to dollar comparison is more expensive that the singaporean one

let just put nurul izzah cheap monorail solution lah...you mean the cheap solution with no info or details? Yeah, why not :) Or we can implement in Penang - I hear someone's got a monorail plan for the state that's being heavily discussed - tho it's not close to being official.

Cheers, m

i don't rely wanna support a project which ringgit to dollar comparison is more expensive that the singaporean one

let just put nurul izzah cheap monorail solution lah...

Well, she wants to find out cost only! Obviously, and duh, Anwar's daughter what to expect. They are just trying to find out so that if any disaster in the future, they can take advantage, normal for us. At the same time, they capo too much too, people will highly disrespect them for the info, same what happen to the Petronas linkage in Bukit Bintang-KLCC. Thinking she is the hero, but NOT following Anwar's footsteps.

Well, she wants to find out cost only! Obviously, and duh, Anwar's daughter what to expect. They are just trying to find out so that if any disaster in the future, they can take advantage, normal for us. At the same time, they capo too much too, people will highly disrespect them for the info, same what happen to the Petronas linkage in Bukit Bintang-KLCC. Thinking she is the hero, but NOT following Anwar's footsteps.

yeap agree...she has done nothing to her own parliamentary ...

monorail is not a mass transportation...it is not efficient to cater high volume of commuters

yeap agree...she has done nothing to her own parliamentary ...

monorail is not a mass transportation...it is not efficient to cater high volume of commuters

I think they are praying that such accident or disaster to happen. Then they can use the excuse to blame on Government. Not your thing and want to find info when she as you said not helping out. Upgrade the roads, as they are bad as even places like Sitiawan, Perak is better. As I also said, shame on her!!! She is a bad girl to say and monorail can't cater high volume. She has awarded from me dubbed "The Understatement of 2011 Q1 and "For Being Capo".

^^ Lol, wat an interesting example to use Sitiawan, hav u been there recently?

haha...instead of a 4car MRT.u get 8car monorail..same lenght same capicity only slower n bumpier..but hey it cheap to build n thight radius mean less acusition...

of caurse there is the BRT n even tram thats waayy cheaper..sorry but 300-400mil a km is very expensive n never did we know why MRT? did they concluded that during a study? why MMC,no china mari contractor n train kah?..thing is saudis got a great pakages for it mekah transit to the point that poor chinese citizen are subsidising rich saudis bcoz of their gov agreement

SBK line public display already finish and close...but still there no sign of overall urban public transport planning which consist Circle Line that said to be announce by end of March or early of April..SPAD talking like shit :bash:

We want to know how Circle Line integrate with SBK line and existing line..that's very important because people can give any comments related to line integration during the SBK line public display...:ohno:

SBK line public display already finish and close...but still there no sign of overall urban public transport planning which consist Circle Line that said to be announce by end of March or early of April..SPAD talking like shit :bash:

We want to know how Circle Line integrate with SBK line and existing line..that's very important because people can give any comments related to line integration during the SBK line public display...:ohno:Public display already in violation of PAD Act Section 83. 2. - should not have even gotten conditional approval because of missing information.

Cheers, m

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INTERCHANGE STATIONS!
1.
KTM Komuter/KTM Intercity: Sungai Buloh station
& Upcoming Integrated Transport Terminal [north section project] (Terminal Bersepadu Utara - Sungai Buloh)
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KL Sentral - Malasia's Largest Interchange Station
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3.
RAPID KL LRT: Pasar Seni station

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4.
RAPID KL LRT: Maluri station

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5.
KTM Komuter/KTM Intercity: Kajang Station

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Nazrey

Those are not MRT to MRT interchanges. The PAD Act clearly states that the plan must show proposed interchanges for current and future lines - assuming that more than 1 line is being proposed.

We have not seen the MRT-MRT interchanges and without them, we cannot comment fully on the alignment for MRT Line #1.

Cheers, m

Yaya.. that's not MRT-MRT interchanges of coz but according to the video presence, there will be interchange between new MRT line and other existed transport systems as well :)

^^ It said to be, SBK Line will integrate with Circle Line or MRT line#2 at Semantan, KL Sentral and Taman Maluri....how??? only SPAD know :ohno::ohno:

I think interchange with MRT Circle Line is Pusat Bandar Damansara and KLIFD.

It cannot go to Maluri and Semantan...

I think interchange with MRT Circle Line is Pusat Bandar Damansara and KLIFD.

It cannot go to Maluri and Semantan...If only someone would come out and say that this map is close to the official proposed alignment - or not.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2011/3/5/business/bw_20mrtChartBig1.jpg

Cheers, m

Yaya.. that's not MRT-MRT interchanges of coz but according to the video presence, there will be interchange between new MRT line and other existed transport systems as well :)which is nice to know, but methinks the law requires more details

PAD Act 2010 Part IV, Section 83 & 84

Part IV
Railways
Chapter 1
Railway scheme

83. Railway scheme
(1) No railway shall be constructed without the approval of the
Minister, acting on the recommendation of the Commission.

(2) Any person intending to construct a railway shall submit a
written application to and deposit with the Commission a railway
scheme, which shall contain the following information:
(a) the type and system of the proposed railway, including
the proposed type or types and quantity of rolling-stock
to be used on the railway, the proposed fare collection
system and whether the railway will be used for the
carriage of passengers or goods or both;
(b) the proposed routes and terminal points of the proposed
railway system;
(c) the proposed location of terminals, associated buildings,
workshops, depots and yards;
(d) the safety aspects of the proposed railway system, including
the signalling systems and communications systems;
(e) the proposed structure for rates as may be applicable and
other proposed conditions of carriage;
(f) the proposed integration with other existing or proposed
railways;
(g) the scheduled completion and proposed date of opening
of the railway;
(h) the proposed licensed operator of the railway to be
constructed, if different from the person intending to
construct the railway;
(i) the description of proposed related, peripheral or ancillary
activities to be undertaken in connection with the provision
of railway services;
(j) the proposed universal accessibility in all relevant parts
of the railway to cater to the needs of disabled persons;
and
(k) such other matters as may be prescribed that will enable
the Minister to evaluate the railway scheme.

(3) Every railway scheme deposited under subsection (2) shall
be accompanied with a map showing the proposed routes for the
railway.

(4) The Commission may require the applicant to submit
such further or additional information as the Commission deems
necessary with reference to any information contained in the
railway scheme, and such further or additional information shall
be submitted within such period and in such manner as the
Commission may require.

(5) The Commission shall, within any such period as set out in
rules made by the Commission under paragraph 253(1)(nn), submit
a written recommendation to the Minister on the application.

(6) The written recommendation of the Commission shall
specify—
(a) the reasons for its recommendation; and
(b) any conditions which the applicant should be subject to
if the Commission recommends to the Minister to grant
the approval.

(7) A person who contravenes subsection (1) commits an
offence and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding
five hundred thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding three years or to both.

84. Approval of railway scheme and deposit of plans, sections,
etc.

(1) The Minister may, after having due regard to the
recommendation of the Commission under section 83, reject or
grant conditional approval to a railway scheme.

(2) Where the Minister grants conditional approval to the
railway scheme under subsection (1), the applicant shall deposit
in the office of the Commission for public inspection—
(a) plans and sections on a scale as specified by the Commission
or as set out in rules made by the Commission under
paragraph 253(1)(oo) showing the lines and levels of
the proposed railway and also—
(i) any intended alteration in the water level of any
canal or in the level or rate of inclination of any
road or railway which will be crossed by the
proposed railway;
(ii) any intended diversion, widening or narrowing of
any road, navigable river, canal or railway;
(iii) any intended laying of any part of the proposed
railway along any road; and
(iv) any intended crossing of the tracks of the proposed
railway over any road, navigable river, canal or
railway; and
(b) a book of reference containing the names of the proprietors
and lessees of the lands which may be required for the
purposes of the proposed railway.

(3) The Commission may require the applicant to submit
such further or additional information as the Commission deems
necessary in respect of the plans and sections and book of reference
referred to in subsection (2).

(4) The applicant shall give notice of the deposit of such
plans and sections and book of reference by advertisement in at
least three successive issues of at least two national newspapers,
one of which shall be in the national language, calling on all
persons having any objection to the plans and sections and book
of reference to send in a statement of their objections in writing
to the Commission within three months from the date of the last
notice in the newspapers.

(5) At the expiration of the period of three months, the Commission
shall present the plans and sections and book of reference referred
to in subsection (2) together with any objections thereto and its
recommendations to the Minister for final approval.

(6) The Minister may, after considering the plans and sections
and book of reference and any objections thereto and having due
regard to the recommendations of the Commission—
(a) give final approval to or reject the railway scheme; or
(b) where he considers that the plans and sections should be
amended, direct the applicant to reconsider such plans
and sections and report to the Commission within such
period as the Commission may require.

(7) I n the case where paragraph (6)(b) applies, the Minister
may, after considering the amendments made to the plans and
sections and having due regard to the objections made under
subsection (4) and the recommendations of the Commission, give
final approval to or reject the railway scheme.

(8) The plans and sections, if approved by the Minister, whether
under paragraph (6)(a) or subsection (7), shall be deemed to be
deposited plans referred to in this Act.
88 Laws of Malaysia Act 715

(9) The Minister may, in approving any railway scheme, impose
any requirement or condition as it considers appropriate, having
due regard to the recommendations of the Commission.

(10) The decision of the Minister to grant or not to grant the
approval under this section shall be communicated to the applicant
by the Commission by written notice as soon as practicable.

(11) The written notice by the Commission under subsection
(10) shall specify—
(a) in the case where the approval is granted, the fact of
such grant and the requirements or conditions imposed
under subsection (9); and
(b) in the case of a refusal to grant the approval, the fact of
such refusal and the reasons for the refusal.

(12) A person who contravenes any requirement or condition
imposed under subsection (9) commits an offence and shall, on
conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding five hundred thousand
ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years
or to both.

Cheers, m

which is nice to know, but methinks the law requires more details
Cheers, m

i think you should lawyer up. force them to reveal "state secrets"....

Briefing for contractors keen on Sg Buloh-Kajang MRT line
Published: 2011/05/23
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20110522234540/Article/

KUALA LUMPUR: Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) will call for a briefing on the Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (KVMRT) linking Sungai Buloh and Kajang for interested contractors tomorrow in Petaling Jaya.

Its group director for project development division Zulkifli Mohd Yusoff said SPNB had revised its pre-qualification criteria for elevated civil works, stations and depots work construction packages for the project.

“The briefing will cover all areas with regards to the pre-qualification exercise and we hope that all interested contractors will attend the briefing,” he said in a statement.

Zulkifli said SPNB had decided on a tender pre-qualification revision for the Open Category (PKK ‘A’/CIDB G7) and Bumiputera Category (PKK ‘A’ Bumiputera/CIDB G7).

“Under new pre-qualification criteria, interested contractors can either form joint ventures or consortiums among local companies,” he said.

Meanwhile, SPNB group managing director Shahril Mokhtar said the revision was made in view of feedback received by the company from various parties, including the NGOs and to attract more contractors.

The planned construction period for the Sungai Buloh-Kajang MRT line is from 2011 to 2016. When completed, it will provide a fast train service to 1.2 million people along the route.

SPNB is a company established by the Ministry of Finance to facilitate, undertake and expedite public infrastructure projects approved by the government.

i think you should lawyer up. force them to reveal "state secrets"....hahaha not possible. Selangor is the only place with a freedom of information act. My solution is simple - the more ppl talk, the more I listen & learn.

Cheers, m

My solution is simple - the more ppl talk, the more I listen & learn.

Major reason why God blessed us with two ears but only one tongue I suppose :)

tpi jgn lupe ...setiap organ bagi setiap creations di dunia ini ada symmetry walaupun organ itu ada satu biji ;)

Proposed TTDI MRT station shifted
2011/05/30 By Noel Achariam
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/3raj/Article/

http://www.nst.com.my/articles/3raj/single

Residents of Jalan SS20/10, Taman Tun Dr Ismail are happy that the
proposed MRT station will be shifted elsewhere. — Picture by Mohd Kamil Rahim

KUALA LUMPUR: Residents of Jalan SS20/10 in Damansara Utama are relieved that Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) will not be building the proposed Taman Tun Dr Ismail (TTDI) MRT station in their neighbourhood.

According to the residents, the proposed station is expected to bypass their housing scheme and likely to be located next to the Caltex petrol station in Jalan Damansara.

Damansara Utama SS20 Rukun Tetangga chairman Eileen Lim said the residents are grateful to SPNB for listening to their feedback and shifting the station.

"We were informed by Gamuda-MMC last Friday that the proposed station will be shifted to a new location. The residents are grateful and would like to thank all those involved for listening to their grouses," she said.

Lim added the residents, however, are still concerned about the noise pollution that would come when the MRT line runs through their neighbourhood.

"We are very happy that they have listened to the residents here, but we hope they can do something about the noise from the elevated track," she said.


Lim said that she will also be sending a petition to the Land Public Transport Commission, calling for the entire Sungei Buloh/Kajang MRT line to run underground.

A resident who only wanted to be known as Chong, 60, said the residents are happy that the station will be shifted.

"We are pleased to find out that our green belt will not be acquired for development. All neighbourhoods must have green areas," he said.


Also present at the event were PJ councillors Mak Khuin Weng and Richard Y.W. Yeoh.

SPNB had proposed to acquire and develop the green area, which is 2m from the residents' homes, as a car park and truck access for the TTDI MRT station staff.

More than 50 residents came out to protest two weeks ago at the proposed TTDI MRT site.

They have started demolishing the old government quarters .http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/DSC04582.jpgU looking at the future cochrane mrt station site:)http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/DSC04610.jpgThe gamuda/mmc boys are on site:ohno:

HwangDBS expects progress in rail projects
Published: 2011/06/02
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20110602121715/Article/index_html

KUALA LUMPUR: HwangDBS Vickers Research expects progress in key domestic projects in the second half of this year, with the Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) groundbreaking on track for July while the winner of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) phase two project, is likely to be announced by end-June.

It said in a statement today, the recent subsidy cuts will allow funds to be channeled towards public transportation projects such as the MRT.

However, HwangDBS said the rise in inflation and slower growth might continue to result in further weaknesses in the near term but Malaysia is likely to be better off relative to other markets.

"This is because of its defensive quality with relatively low foreign shareholdings and support from domestic funds as well as implementation of key catalyst projects.

"Yield stocks may also gain interest if the regional markets remain weak," it said, while adding that for this year, the year-end KLCI target is expected to be at 1,730 points.

The top yield pick of HwangDBS includes Boustead Holdings Bhd, Axis-Reit Managers Bhd, Maxis Bhd and DiGi.com Bhd.

Meanwhile, OSK Research Sdn Bhd said aside from the consumer sector for which first quarter was strong due to festivities, others such as steel, construction and oil and gas tend to have a weak first quarter owing to the fewer number of working days.

The research house foresees earnings to pick up a little in the second quarter, although the auto and technology sectors may still remain weak due to supply problems in Japan.

It stated that the year-end target for the KLCI will be at 1,680 points and sees merger and acquisition excitement among banks as one of the catalysts to achieve it.

However, OSK sees the 1,600 points level as tough resistance prior to the month of October, when an election-friendly Budget 2012 may be announced. - Bernama

How interesting long before its launch we know for sure who got the job(MRT)with personals at site also twittie bird whispered that they also already purchased the 2 TBM just for this project.Yahoooooo Malaysia memang boleh!:lol:

How interesting long before its launch we know for sure who got the job(MRT)with personals at site also twittie bird whispered that they also already purchased the 2 TBM just for this project.Yahoooooo Malaysia memang boleh!:lol:

Aiseh, only two kah. Memang lambat la siap.

2 just for penyedap to convince gomen they can do the job ma!

Proposed TTDI MRT station shifted
2011/05/30 By Noel Achariam
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/3raj/Article/

http://www.nst.com.my/articles/3raj/single



so these are the faces of the nimbies?

these orang tua dah malas dah nak jalan. suka naik kereta jer. no wonder lah sooner they will menyusahkan anak2 cucu2 diaorg….

How interesting long before its launch we know for sure who got the job(MRT)with personals at site also twittie bird whispered that they also already purchased the 2 TBM just for this project.Yahoooooo Malaysia memang boleh!:lol:

Game over to all bidders. semua kena conned again by gomen. no wonder super efficient japanese contractors had long shying away here but thrive in neighbour singapore public infra projects. hope the koreans n euro mari ll learn too.

There are apparently a growing number of Damansara ppl here that object this MRT project.

They failed to see how this govt project will give benefit to the ppl here when they can approve the big NO NO Lynas project.

The area is getting jam jam and more jam every single week.

Now is June, what are your thoughts (MRT project)?


(The above may not form the personal opinion of myself, but a general observation in my own neighbourhood)

i hope MRT project will start this july.......cant wait so long to use this MRT...
i am getting older and older........

Knusford (http://www.knusford.com.my/) inks JV to bid for MRT job
Written by Surin Murugiah of theedgemalaysia.com
Monday, 06 June 2011 17:43
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business/187683-knusford-inks-jv-to-bid-for-mrt-job.html

KUALA LUMPUR: Knusford Berhad has signed a joint venture agreement with Pembinaan Hamid Abd. Rahman Sdn Bhd (PHAR) to bid for the Klang Valley mass rapid transit (MRT) project.

In a filing Monday, June 6, Knusford said pursuant to the agreement, the name of the JV would be Pembinaan Hamid Abd. Rahman Sdn Bhd – KNUSFORD BHD JV.

Knusford will hold a 40% stake in the JVB while PHAR will hold the remaining 60%.

The company said the JV was for the purpose of submitting prequalification and/or tender for the MRT Project known as “Projek Mass Rapid Transit Lembah Kelang: Jajaran Sungai Buloh – Kajang – CONSTRUCTION [] and Completion of Elevated Civil Works Package”.

“In the event that the contract for the project is awarded to the JV, the contract shall be jointly undertaken by Knusford and PHAR and if it is not awarded to the JV, the JV agreement will be automatically be terminated,” it said.

so these are the faces of the nimbies?

these orang tua dah malas dah nak jalan. suka naik kereta jer. no wonder lah sooner they will menyusahkan anak2 cucu2 diaorg….

True, and best of all, no TTDI stationfor them. If they complain later, don't blame SPNB and blame the neighbour or if they were the one of them, blame yourself, serves them right. Don't deserve it anyway.

True, and best of all, no TTDI stationfor them. If they complain later, don't blame SPNB and blame the neighbour or if they were the one of them, blame yourself, serves them right. Don't deserve it anyway.

selfish poeple who only think of their interest only...
i hope the old peoples can live until 100 years of age, a living without purpose but only to themselves, and finally die. eat, berak, eat, berak, until die. and hell is waiting. :ohno: dont they get tired and bored of living?

mmm i can see those TTDI residents who protest this MRT project are old folks and retirees.

no wonder they dont want the MRT coz they dont need to go to work in the morning and facing terrible traffic jam. :lol: :lol:.

so these are the faces of the nimbies?

these orang tua dah malas dah nak jalan. suka naik kereta jer. no wonder lah sooner they will menyusahkan anak2 cucu2 diaorg….

ha haa .. they need MRT into another realm soon ;)

mmm i can see those TTDI residents who protest this MRT project are old folks and retirees.

no wonder they dont want the MRT coz they dont need to go to work in the morning and facing terrible traffic jam. :lol: :lol:.


most residents in this part of town are retirees...

91% support for MRT project
Jun 8, 2011


The Klang Valley MRT (KVMRT) Sungai Buloh-Kajang Line concluded its public display of the railway scheme at seven locations in the Klang Valley with a 91% support for the project.

The public display, which ran for three months beginning Feb 14, registered more than 6,000 comments and suggestions from various channels, including feedback forms, logbooks, emails, helpline and letters.

The Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) which led the public display, was encouraged by the strong attendance and show of support by the public.

“Public participation and feedback are important to us.

“Over the past three months, we have received more than 6,000 responses with an overall, 91% public support towards implementation of the KVMRT Sungai Buloh–Kajang line,” said SPAD chief executive officer Mohd Nur Kamal.

“We’re glad to see this, because it means the public has been objective towards this project from the very beginning.

“Through the various stakeholder engagements that we have organised, we have seen the majority are in support of the KVMRT project.

“When we studied the objections, they were mostly connected to the proposed alignment and environmental issues, which we are now being looked into,” he added.

“SPAD in its role as the regulator of public transport and supervising authority for the KVMRT Sungai Buloh – Kajang project is now analysing all public feedback.

“We will be presenting the findings to the Government to ensure that the project owners deliver a MRT line that will meet the aspirations of a cost-efficient, convenient and socio-economically beneficial public transportation system.

The public display was held at seven locations for three months from Feb 14 to May 14.

selfish poeple who only think of their interest only...
i hope the old peoples can live until 100 years of age, a living without purpose but only to themselves, and finally die. eat, berak, eat, berak, until die. and hell is waiting. :ohno: dont they get tired and bored of living?

That's why I post 3 or 4 of the same thing. Want peace, want nature and want quiet. GET OUT OF HERE, and move to Cameron Highlands or Frasers Hill. And tell you, those bastards really have nothing to do and as you say they only care for themselves.

Proposed TTDI MRT station shifted
2011/05/30 By Noel Achariam

Residents of Jalan SS20/10, Taman Tun Dr Ismail are happy that the
proposed MRT station will be shifted elsewhere. — Picture by Mohd Kamil Rahim


Dun wan?? Shift to my residential area lar.. I more than welcome to have a MRT to be built here :cheers:

so these are the faces of the nimbies?

these orang tua dah malas dah nak jalan. suka naik kereta jer. no wonder lah sooner they will menyusahkan anak2 cucu2 diaorg….

Hahaha.. agreed.. Malaysia old folks are lazy compare to SG and HK 1..
The old one there are more energetic than the youth in Malaysia.. I am so surprise to see that.. :lol:

I think the new location in TTDI is quite a distance from main points such as VADS building, although still within TTDI.

The problem with the new location is that, office workers in future (which is probably main target of TTDI station) will need to walk quite a distance from offices to MRT station. Original location makes better sense.

All is not lost though, as the new location is roughly 400 m to 500 m to VADS building, meaning it is still not too far. Prasarana should start thinking of improvements such as pedestrian subway.

Consider this, the walk from KLCC station to attraction sites such as KLCC Park and KL Convention Centre is around a few hundred metres, with distance from the LRT station to KL Convention Centre is probably more than 600 m (based on crude calculation on Google Earth), yet many people walk from LRT station to these places, because there is proper and comfortable pedestrian facility.

That means, Prasarana should now start to plan improvements such as walkways so that its bulk of passengers still able to access key sites around the commercial area within reasonable distance and comfort.

Bandar Utama station should be moved to a spot between 1 Utama new wing and The Curve.

I think the new location in TTDI is quite a distance from main points such as VADS building, although still within TTDI.

The problem with the new location is that, office workers in future (which is probably main target of TTDI station) will need to walk quite a distance from offices to MRT station. Original location makes better sense.

All is not lost though, as the new location is roughly 400 m to 500 m to VADS building, meaning it is still not too far. Prasarana should start thinking of improvements such as pedestrian subway.

Consider this, the walk from KLCC station to attraction sites such as KLCC Park and KL Convention Centre is around a few hundred metres, with distance from the LRT station to KL Convention Centre is probably more than 600 m (based on crude calculation on Google Earth), yet many people walk from LRT station to these places, because there is proper and comfortable pedestrian facility.

That means, Prasarana should now start to plan improvements such as walkways so that its bulk of passengers still able to access key sites around the commercial area within reasonable distance and comfort.

Bandar Utama station should be moved to a spot between 1 Utama new wing and The Curve.

the curve already has a proposed MRT station......One utama station should be between One world hotel and old wing One Utama shopping centre...

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the curve already has a proposed MRT station......One utama station should be between One world hotel and old wing One Utama shopping centre...The location near TV3 was probably chosen because:


It will be possible to walk through 1Utama / One World Hotel / Office buildings
More potential daily users come from the office complexes
Having the station at the south end of Bandar Utama makes it easier for pick-up & drop-off as drivers are not stuck at the jammed Bdr. Utama - TTDI interchange.

I prefer the location to the north of the new wing (integrated with the existing bus terminal) but I understand why the south side location was proposed.

Either way, Mutiara D'sara should have its own MRT station.

Cheers, m

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Either way, Mutiara D'sara should have its own MRT station.

I 1000% agree with u on this,

hopefully MRT 1 2 and 3 can be completed by 2020......
i am fan of MRT and LRT network....

hopefully MRT 1 2 and 3 can be completed by 2020......
i am fan of MRT and LRT network....

what's MRT 1,2, and 3 ?

KVMRT Masterplan
MRT 1 - Sg Buloh-Kajang Line
MRT 2 - To be announce
MRT 3 - Circle Line

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2010/06/25/mrt-grafikx.jpg

<< This is previous proposal!

KVMRT Masterplan
MRT 1 - Sg Buloh-Kajang Line
MRT 2 - To be announce
MRT 3 - Circle Line

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2010/06/25/mrt-grafikx.jpg

<< This is previous proposal!

I heard isn't MRT 2 rumoured a Kuala Lumpur-Klang MRT route?

I heard isn't MRT 2 rumoured a Kuala Lumpur-Klang MRT route?

yes correct ler....see MRT 3 wikipedia....cover PJ selatan through Shah alam and then to Klang town direct to Port Klang...

Hope can cover that ICITY shah alam,SACC mall,Masjid SSAAS...:lol:

the first confirm stop for MRT 2 is KL EcoCity (Abdullah Hukum)

the first confirm stop for MRT 2 is KL EcoCity (Abdullah Hukum)

Proposed MRT station wasn't well integrated with Abdullah Hukum or future KTM station :ohno:..you can judge by this picture and the station may located at Parcel D

The MRT station at the far left
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/5842022709_25dd1c6e3e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/5842575146_6a5b24918e_b.jpg

:cheers:

KVMRT Masterplan


http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2010/06/25/mrt-grafikx.jpg

<< This is previous proposal!not exactly - that is the original MMC-Gamuda proposal.

Now it is:

MRT 1 - Sg Buloh-Kajang Line
MRT 2 - KL Circle Line
MRT 3 - KL-Klang Line (but details not certain)

Cheers, m

Near M-City Jalan Ampang will have a MRT station under Ampang - Klang Line.

the first confirm stop for MRT 2 is KL EcoCity (Abdullah Hukum)

yer lor,the developer GURANTEED a MRT there

if i were a buyer,n the gov xjadi bikin MRT lalu situ,
the developer gonna compensate me ke?
or hot hot chicken shit only:lol:

yer lor,the developer GURANTEED a MRT there

if i were a buyer,n the gov xjadi bikin MRT lalu situ,
the developer gonna compensate me ke?
or hot hot chicken shit only:lol:
At least still have the Kelana Jaya line there then. :)

Near M-City Jalan Ampang will have a MRT station under Ampang - Klang Line.

If true its good news only that i hope they extend the line by a few km further up jalan ampang beyond the present Ampang station towards the cheras border/ulu langat.Perhaps it should be a major station /depot with a huge parking targeting people that has been using ampang as by past into the city at same time clogging all the roads in the area.:)

RAs push to have MRT run underground
By KHARLEEZ ZUBIN Tuesday June 21, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/6/21/central/8938716&sec=central

Scores of residents associations (RAs) in and around Bandar Utama want the proposed Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) to run underground.

Representatives from RAs and Rukun Tetangga from Bandar Utama, TTDI, Damansara Utama, Damansara Kim, Mutiara Damansara and Kota Damansara conveyed this to representatives of the Land Public Transport Commission (LPTC) in Brickfields, Kuala Lumpur recently.

Since the announcement of the RM36.6bil project, residents in various parts of Klang Valley have given opposing views.

Rukun Tetangga SS20 Damansara Utama chairman Eileen Thong said in the past the proposal for an elevated MRT track was supported by residents who did not have the proposed track running close to their houses.

“Now almost all the residents have reached an understanding and want the government to have the MRT underground,” she said.

At the meeting earlier, which also included representatives of Syarikat Prasarana Negara Malaysia (Prasarana), the project owners of MRT, Bandar Utama RA chairman Lim See Meng appealed to the government to cancel their plans for an elevated line.

“We are not against having the MRT but we believe having underground stations will minimise traffic congestion,” he said.

He added that areas were already fully developed so land above ground would be limited for future expansion.

He also noted that the government talk to developers who had indicated that they were prepared absorb part of the project’s cost.

Bandar Utama Corporation had offered to have a station near the 1Utama shopping complex.

“Other developers in different areas can also take part in a similar way which will reduce the government’s cost of construction,” he said.

TTDI RA chairman Hatim Abdullah said the environmental impact assessment commissioned by the government and released on Feb 15 noted that thousands of residents near the project would suffer from noise and air pollution.

The report also noted that businesses in certain areas would lose customers, especially those that depend on the local neighbourhood.

After the meeting, the representatives handed over a petition signed by 10,000 people to LPTC public relations manager Leong Shen-Li.

A resident, Aaron Sarma, said although the cost of going underground was more expensive the long-term benefits were immeasurable.

“The long-term cost to address health effects, traffic jams and pollution far outweigh the cost of the MRT stations going underground,” he said.

Aaron said one big advantage of going underground was the reduction of track length.

“The current proposal involves having the MRT line trail major highways to access the proposed catchments areas. This might not make for the most cost effective route for the MRT.

“Building the line underground does not present these challenges. Lines can be built to go directly through the areas that need it most,” he added.

In previous reports, LPTC chief executive officer Mohd Nur Ismal Kamal had said the cost of underground work would be five to 10 times higher.

How do underground stations = minimised congestion? I don't understand the logic. The same number of people will need to access the station, be it by foot, bike, car, bus or taxi. So how does an underground station minimise congestion?

actually damansara residents that live near to that proposed MRT alligment opposed the MRT...not all of them.....very frustrating ler hearing all this.....MRT is good in the long run....just built only no need to discuss with them.....after all MRT will be scrapped then they will know how good MRT is....

how come people reside living along the Kelana Jaya LRT allignment no condemn or attacks on this before this....they can now even use the LRT already....all quite near to their doorstep.....just happen at setaiwangsa area,asia jaya until kelana jaya stations all not oppose the allignment.....for noise pollution causing from train wheels can be solved bt having that noise barricade.....ony that.....no dust from MRT movement only form the construction period only......

i think all of these people are worry about dust and noise pollution form the construction not after MRT in full operation.....hehheheheee....

It seems they are going to stick with 4 car MRT train.

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/75498-exclusive-it%E2%80%99s-fourcar-mrt


Exclusive: It’s a four-car MRT
New trains can carry 50 per cent more passengers than LRT, says Prasarana
SHAHRIM TAMRIN
Monday, June 20th, 2011 12:08:00

KUALA LUMPUR: THE RM36 billion Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) system in the Klang Valley will have four-car train sets which can carry up to 1,200 passengers for each trip.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) group managing director Shahril Mokhtar said the four-car train set was to accommodate a projected 1.2 million commuters along the proposed 51km line with 35 stations.

“The rolling stock tender for the new four-car MRT trains will be opened early next year. We are looking at having four-car trains which can accommodate 50 per cent more passengers per trip, to cope with the projected increase in commuters."

Currently, the four-car train sets at the Light Rail Transit (LRT) Kelana Jaya line has a capacity of 800 passengers per trip.

During peak hours, the frequency of the MRT trains would be increased to one every two minutes, if there was enough trains to cope.

When asked if the new trains would be auto-pilot or driverless, Shahril said: "We have yet to decide on that."

An industry insider familiar with the MRT, the country’s biggest infrastructure project, said Prasarana was considering having fully-computerised driverless trains like the SkyTrain system at Vancouver, Canada.

It is learnt the dimensions for the higher-capacity MRT trains would be between 20m to 22m per car, 3m to 3.2m and 3.7m for length, width and height respectively. The insider said these specifications were similar to those elsewhere around the world.

The new four-car trains will have six bays for wheelchair-bound passengers, with one bay each in the first and fourth cars and two each in the intermediate cars.

“In principle, Prasarana is following the heavy-capacity MRT trains commonly used in Singapore, Hong Kong, Taipei and Kaohsiung in Taiwan and Sao Paulo in Brazil,” said the insider.

The first phase of the MRT, which involve three lines, will be launched on July 8 with a ground-breaking ceremony by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, followed by construction work from Kajang and Cheras in November.

The project, part of the government’s Economic Transformation Programme (ETP), will link the city’s suburb and district commuter lines that are not served by the LRT systems, as announced by Najib last December.

The final MRT alignment is expected to be announced this month, following three months of public dialogues with various stakeholders that concluded last month.

actually damansara residents that live near to that proposed MRT alligment opposed the MRT...not all of them.....very frustrating ler hearing all this.....MRT is good in the long run....just built only no need to discuss with them.....after all MRT will be scrapped then they will know how good MRT is....

how come people reside living along the Kelana Jaya LRT allignment no condemn or attacks on this before this....they can now even use the LRT already....all quite near to their doorstep.....just happen at setaiwangsa area,asia jaya until kelana jaya stations all not oppose the allignment.....for noise pollution causing from train wheels can be solved bt having that noise barricade.....ony that.....no dust from MRT movement only form the construction period only......

i think all of these people are worry about dust and noise pollution form the construction not after MRT in full operation.....hehheheheee....

org2 malaysia mmg suke complain.. diorg ingt underground tu murah ke costnyer... silap2 mase boring tu ade sinkhole.. diorg gak yg komen lagi nnti...

Built it once and for all.

Look at the jams everyday. I'm sick. :ohno:

They can korek anytime but now they have to korek the money from somewherelah:lol:They should reconsider the TTDI route altogether why provide something they don't appreciate in the first place!:)

How do underground stations = minimised congestion? I don't understand the logic. The same number of people will need to access the station, be it by foot, bike, car, bus or taxi. So how does an underground station minimise congestion?

Yes, it does. You know when they bore the tunnels. In construction, I don't think so as construction will always cause traffic jam. Fair enough, now the main question, good answer and it is yes 100% trust me. Here are the following factors:

1. No pillars taken from the road. Now like some place like the monorail track on Jalan Sultan Ismail is for 5 lanes but one was taken so that is sacrificial.

2. Fast travel on road, at least no one crashes into the pillar AT LEAST.

3. Safer and best travel on underground subways. You know in the 80s like Singapore on the outskirts it's possible for elevated but now 30 years too late. 1990s should have been built or else we won't be DEMANDING for underground.

I'm glad you want to know these questions :)

^^ there are a lot of thing u can crash into other than monorail pillar
from truck,tree,car,kapchai,people...

none of your answer,answer the question,particularly when tunnel cost at least 5times elavated mrt

Yes, it does. You know when they bore the tunnels. In construction, I don't think so as construction will always cause traffic jam. Fair enough, now the main question, good answer and it is yes 100% trust me. Here are the following factors:

1. No pillars taken from the road. Now like some place like the monorail track on Jalan Sultan Ismail is for 5 lanes but one was taken so that is sacrificial.

2. Fast travel on road, at least no one crashes into the pillar AT LEAST.

3. Safer and best travel on underground subways. You know in the 80s like Singapore on the outskirts it's possible for elevated but now 30 years too late. 1990s should have been built or else we won't be DEMANDING for underground.

I'm glad you want to know these questions :)
:ohno: This is not what congestion refers to. Congestion means sesak jalan raya. Accidents do cause those, yes. But congestion usually refers to traffic being so heavy that it causes a slow-down.

traffic jam can be eased if the police traffic takes control.
that what happened this morning in kota damansara.
outbound traffic flows very smooth. :colgate:

masalahnya bukan tiap2 hari polis trafiic ada.
lebih2 lagi time hujan..walaupun gerimis. huh.

traffic jam can be eased if the police traffic takes control

masalahnya bukan tiap2 hari polis trafiic ada.
lebih2 lagi time hujan..walaupun gerimis. huh.

Thats the trouble whenever it rains they all HILANG BIG TIME!Like it never rains here in the first place.I wonder where they go?Without fail they will HILANG:bash:

org2 malaysia mmg suke complain.. diorg ingt underground tu murah ke costnyer... silap2 mase boring tu ade sinkhole.. diorg gak yg komen lagi nnti...

it is all about politics to me. those people hate the government. so they'll reject anything proposed by the government, even if it actually offers a lot of benefits in the future. let a new government take over the country and carry on with this MRT project, then they'll shut up.

^^lol like PORR, use to be PORRdah big time up north
now PORR still same alignment rename PIRR, then the clown lompat big time on how amazingly forward looking the CM :lol:

No need to make a big fuss for the TTDI folks i found solution in melakahttp://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/DSC05027.jpg for them:nuts::lol:

:ohno: This is not what congestion refers to. Congestion means sesak jalan raya. Accidents do cause those, yes. But congestion usually refers to traffic being so heavy that it causes a slow-down.Exactly!

Congestion is caused by two factors - high traffic volume and bottlenecks. Traffic volume is the major factor. Bottlenecks are just the really frustrating one.

Bottlenecks can be (and are being) fixed ... and congestion still exists whenever there is heavy traffic volume. The "flow" continues until it finds the next bottleneck

Subang Jaya's NPE + Jalan Subang + Pers. Tujuan combination is probably the best example of how a bottleneck can be moved further along, and traffic congestion remains as long as there are high traffic volumes

Cheers, m

it is all about politics to me. those people hate the government. so they'll reject anything proposed by the government, even if it actually offers a lot of benefits in the future. let a new government take over the country and carry on with this MRT project, then they'll shut up.hahaha not likely. See Penang.

This isn't about politics or parties or certain colours of the rainbow.

Many people in Malaysia do not "hate" the government ... they just do not trust the government (any government) to be acting in their best interest.

It's an "every-man-for-himself-and-how-can-I-trust-the-government-when-I-can-barely-trust-my-neighbours" mentality

~m!

Nazri: MRT project not intended to win votes
2011/06/29 Reports by Ili Liyana Mokhtar
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/8pame/Article/

http://www.nst.com.my/articles/8pame/single

THE mass rapid transit (MRT) line from Sungai Buloh to Kajang is not a project implemented to garner votes as alleged by the opposition.

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Mohamed Nazri Abdul Aziz said the project was planned to help ease traffic congestion in the city.

"Look, the project has been opposed by various quarters, so it is not true that it is being implemented to garner votes. If the project is used as a tool to garner votes, why are we risking making people angry?" he said in response to a question by Tan Kok Wai (DAP-Cheras) yesterday.

Tan had wanted to know the details of the project, including the parcels of land acquired, the cost of the project and objections from the public.

Nazri among the public objections were the acquisition of land from the Chee Yuan Tong temple for the construction of the Maluri station and from SJK(C) Naam Kheung as the proposed track would be near the school.

"There have also been objections as some of the planned stations and tracks are near the shoplots of Taman Bukit Ria and the housing area of Taman Midah."

Nazri added that the Land Public Transport Commission had responded to the objections by holding a series of meetings with the public.

"From these meetings, we have assured them that appropriate steps would be taken in the implementation of the project.

"These include relocation of the temple, land acquisition and the necessary compensation."

He said the cost of the project was yet to be determined as the locations of the stations and the tracks had not been finalised.

The proposed line, with about 9.5km of it underground, will cover Sungai Buloh, Kota Damansara, Kuala Lumpur, Cheras and Kajang.

No need to make a big fuss for the TTDI folks i found solution in melaka for them:nuts::lol:
Isn't that thing for main-main only ? :lol:
Imagine if they try run that in KL during rush hour - the rioting will topple it over from track :)

Include MRT project in proposal to redevelop market
By FAZLEENA AZIZ Wednesday June 29, 2011
Photos by SHAHRUL FAZRY ISMAIL
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/6/29/central/8832842&sec=central

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2011/6/29/central/m_02tmntunmarket.jpg
A landmark: The Taman Tun Dr Ismail market is about 30 years old.

Kuala Lumpur City Council (DBKL) wants the developer planning to redevelop the 30-year-old Taman Tun Dr Ismail market in Kuala Lumpur to come up with a better proposal that will integrate the MRT project in the area.

Its mayor, Tan Sri Ahmad Fuad Ismail, said the first proposal had been rejected and the developer had been asked to incorporate the MRT project in their plan.

He said having seen the proposed MRT station line, they found the area to be too cramped.

Fuad said parking facilities, drop-off and pick-up points were needed for the MRT project and the traffic situation should be taken into account due to the expected increase in the number of cars.

“We want to see how big the parking space is because the MRT station should have a park and ride facility.

“The developer must also settle the relocation of the traders during the construction period.

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2011/6/29/central/m_01mrtproject.jpg

“We want to see how they are going to integrate the development with the MRT line,” he said, adding that the redevelopment has to enhance value and benefit everyone ranging from the public to the traders as well as residents.

He said the developer had yet to prove the technical viability of the whole redevelopment.

The developer was asked to come up with a better solution with improvements on the proposal and the alternative plans for the market traders.

“They have to plan whether to incorporate the traders at the present place or be relocated to another site.

“Even after the proposal is considered, the plan has to be approved by the Federal Territories and Urban Wellbeing Ministry and the Economic Council,” he said.

“In principle, we have agreed to see the proposal but if they are not able to resolve all factors then we will not go ahead with it.

“This is government land, so they have to enhance the whole area and not make it like other LRT stations.

“But we still have time as the MRT project will be completed in 2016,” he said.

Former Taman Tun Dr Ismail Residents Association chairman Datuk Abdul Latif Mohd Som, who is also on the DBKL advisory board, said the residents were not aware of the redevelopment project.

He said the proposal came as a surprise when the development was mentioned during the meeting with Land and Public Transport Commission (SPAD).

“In the Kuala Lumpur City Plan 2020, the market was marked for commercial use and we have put in our objection for it to be retained as status quo. Once the area changed to commercial, they could easily build another high-rise project, so we don’t want another development.

“We are against this idea because the market means a lot to the people. It is clean and serves us well,” he said.

Apparently the Sg. Buloh - Kajang MRT project will be "launched" (ceremonial turning of dirt) in 6 days.

Cheers, m

5 Days to go
Majlis Pelancaran Projek MRT Jajaran Sg Buloh - Kajang

Oleh YAB Perdana Menteri

5 Days to go
Majlis Pelancaran Projek MRT Jajaran Sg Buloh - Kajang

Oleh YAB Perdana Menteri



So...the project is about to be launched. But I'm just curious....

Questions:


Has everyone who raised objections to the MRT corridor been given their chance to discuss the scope of their objections with SPAD/Prasarana?
Has the railway scheme, including the corridor and the location of stations, been finalized?
Has final approval for the railway scheme been given by the Minister of Transport?
Are the railway schemes for MRT Line 2 and Line 3 any closer to getting conditional approval from the Minister of Transport and going up for 3 months of public display?


All of the above are, of course, requirements as per the PAD Act 2010 (http://spad.gov.my/en/resources/acts/padact.html) specifically, Part IV, Chapter 1 & 23 (or Section 83-86).

Cheers, m

And i wonder:ohno::Touch and way to go kind of deal ha:lol:Oh never mind the tunneling contractors cant wait start ,screw the trains ,that can wait:lol:

No need to make a big fuss for the TTDI folks i found solution in melakahttp://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/DSC05027.jpg for them:nuts::lol:

FYI, we have that in Kuala Lumpur and on the other hand, there were too many complaints on this so, no go for this, sorry.:nono:

:lol:Thats for sure:nuts:

lets join logo design competition@http://kvmrt.com.my/w/?page_id=1208

lets join logo design competition@http://kvmrt.com.my/w/?page_id=1208
That's probably meant to be:
http://kvmrt.com.my/w/?page_id=1208

Design A MRT Logo

Now you can be part of the history. Read more about the MRT on www.facebook.com/MyRapidTransit or
follow us on www.twitter.com/MyRapidTransit and design a logo for the MRT that you think will express
what MRT will stand for. You are free to choose style and concepts. But don’t forget to write a rationale for
your logo in not more than 140 characters.

Requirements

http://www.kvmrt.com.my/contest/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/02_SPAD_HowTo_01-02.jpg
Design Criteria

Artwork must incorporate the following in the logo:
The acronym: MRT
The line: MY Rapid Transit (in the same order)
Submission Requirements

To enter the logo competition, all contestants are required to first
register at: www.kvmrt.com.my
All personal particulars of contestant must be valid and fields marked with
* must be completed.
All artworks must be submitted in only JPEG, GIF or PNG format.
Image dimensions must be exactly 200 pixel x 200 pixel at 72dpi resolution.
Every artwork submission must be accompanied by a completed rationale in not more
than 140 characters.
All artworks uploaded after 11.59pm on the 3rd August 2011(+8:00 GMT) will be
considered void/unsuccessful.
Participate with 3 simple steps
http://www.kvmrt.com.my/contest/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/02_SPAD_HowTo_01-01.jpg
Prizes

The contest gives every Malaysian chance to win RM10,000 cash. And 20 consolation
winners take back RM2,000 each.

Deadline

The contest opens on 3rd of July 2011 and closes on 3rd of August 2011 (+8:00 GMT). So hurry!

Judging criteria and and other contest details can be found under terms & conditions page. We look forward to your participation!

Cheers, m

Metro logos from around the world: http://mic-ro.com/metro/metrologos-static.html

Cheers, m

me think whoever incorporate a huge "1" in their logo would win 1st price

Thats a no brainer:lol:Even better u put mrs "N" smiling face.Its a sure thing.:nuts:

would like to know why they don't build all the way underground as we can see more and more shopping mall rising up??

Does $200 to $350 million per km if not more answer ur question

looking forward to this...!

Everyone is!Just that will we ever find out how they going to pay for it?

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq144/pyan_cgt/prasarana/mediainvitationMRTsmall.jpg

Note: Only selected person was invited

Regards
Hawa
Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad

huhu..add that the ROI return of investment is a hundred years!!!!

^^Any info on the whole MRT masterplan/ Urban Transportation Masterplan? Or this is only a general election gimmick :lol:?

Its only the single largest mega project for the people! Why do u launch it at the convention center?ONLY SELECTED FEW!WTF.Thanks for nothing pasarana.

Acara ini berlangsung di KL Convention Centre...
Memandangkan dewan ini agak terhad, maka jemputan pun terhad.
Namun anda boleh mengikut perasmian acara ini secara langsung di TV1 jam 9pagi.

Delay to cost MRT project 10% more every year
By Haziq Hamid & Max Koh of theedgeproperty.com
Wednesday, 06 July 2011 11:58

KUALA LUMPUR: The Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (KVMRT) project is likely to be implemented sooner rather than later as costs will increase by 10% for every year it is delayed, MMC-Gamuda Joint Venture Sdn Bhd director Datuk Ng Kee Leen said.

"We believe the government would want to roll out the project as soon as possible [to mitigate against further cost increase]," Ng said.

MMC-Gamuda JV, the contractor for the Ipoh-Padang Besar electrified double tracking project, is the appointed Project Delivery Partner (PDP) for the KVMRT which involves the 51km construction of a mass rapid transit (MRT) line connecting Sungai Buloh to Kajang. The whole project, which consists of three lines, is estimated to cost around RM43 billion. This is the largest infrastructure development project ever undertaken in Malaysia.

Ng declined to give details on the tender for tunnelling works of the KVMRT project. "We will expect more news to be announced this Friday, July 8 during the groundbreaking ceremony," Ng told reporters on Tuesday.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak is slated to grace the groundbreaking ceremony of the Sungai Buloh-Kajang line on Friday.

The Sungai Buloh-Kajang line is estimated to be worth RM20 billion and the Gamuda-MMC JV is seen as the forerunner of the tunnel portion, analysts said. Tenders for the tunnel portion are expected to be called in 4Q11 with the job expected to be awarded early next year, OSK Research wrote in a recent note.

"We believe that the (Gamuda-MMC) JV will emerge as the winner. For the remaining two MRT lines, we gather that the independent consultants have submitted the proposed alignment to the government for approval. The other two lines should be implemented after a one-year lag to the Sungai Buloh-Kajang line," the research house said.

For the elevated portion of the line, about 70 contractors have been pre-qualified for the RM12 billion job and tenders are expected to be called in the next two months, OSK added in the note.

Ng said the MMC-Gamuda JV has set up a Construction Training Centre (CTC) to train workers for KVMRT construction works and will open a tunnel training school soon.

"MMC-Gamuda JV will invest a total of RM10 million in the CTC. The CTC graduates will replace foreign workers for construction jobs which will improve efficiency rate and quality of work. We saw 23 graduates from the first batch (on Tuesday) and expect more," Ng said at the CTC graduation ceremony on Tuesday.

Ng said 4,000 training opportunities would be created from the investment in the CTC, while the KVMRT project itself is expected to create 130,000 jobs through 2016.

Ng is also bullish on the construction industry's propects ahead, noting that industry turnover is expected to rise to RM100 billion over the next couple of years once projects under the Economic Transformation Programme (ETP) go full steam. "The current industry average turnover is around RM70 billion, with RM90 billion achieved in 2007. We are definitely bullish on the industry turnover ahead," he said.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq144/pyan_cgt/prasarana/mediainvitationMRTsmall.jpg

Note: Only selected person was invited

Regards
Hawa
Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad

i heard they gonna open the exhibition hall to public at later hours, after the official ceremony, up to few days....

^^Any info on the whole MRT masterplan/ Urban Transportation Masterplan? Or this is only a general election gimmick :lol:?

no lah

i heard they gonna open the exhibition hall to public at later hours, after the official ceremony, up to few days....

Can u confirm this:)

Its only the single largest mega project for the people! Why do u launch it at the convention center?ONLY SELECTED FEW!WTF.Thanks for nothing pasarana.

normally at events like this only VVIP and those concern are invited....

so next time join "Young Corporate Malaysian" events to meet more VIP as our events are always open to ALL (last week we had Najib to tell us about ETP)

Its only the single largest mega project for the people! Why do u launch it at the convention center?ONLY SELECTED FEW!WTF.Thanks for nothing pasarana.

Isn't it good logistically ? Why need to spend alot for a launch ?

i heard they gonna open the exhibition hall to public at later hours, after the official ceremony, up to few days....

The exhibition will start on Friday 11am until 6pm (Only 1 day).

Regards
Group Communications Department
Kumpulan Prasarana Negara Berhad

The exhibition will start on Friday 11am until 6pm (Only 1 day).

Regards
Group Communications Department
Kumpulan Prasarana Negara Berhad

Here we go again:bash:Hello Prasarana?Apa inllah?Unless the exhibition is planned at another location later i understand if not many will be very upset:ohno: