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Gdoggy
February 13th, 2011, 04:23 AM
Population on July 1 Change
2010 2006 2001 2001-2010
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California 37,266,600 35,947,461 34,481,753 2,784,847
Texas 25,213,445 23,356,591 21,330,190 3,883,255
New York 19,577,730 19,353,588 19,087,486 490,244
Florida 18,678,049 18,076,361 16,350,988 2,327,061
Ontario 13,210,700 12,160,282 11,410,046 1,800,654
Illinois 12,944,410 12,714,588 12,506,636 437,774
Pennsylvania 12,632,780 12,466,485 12,296,977 335,803
Ohio 11,532,111 11,490,596 11,395,572 136,539
Michigan 9,931,235 10,082,414 10,005,334 - 74,099
Georgia 9,908,357 9,323,575 8,418,687 1,489,670
North Carolina 9,458,888 8,853,849 8,202,468 1,256,420
New Jersey 8,732,811 8,619,354 8,488,427 244,384
Virginia 7,952,119 7,633,859 7,191,579 760,540
Quebec 7,907,400 7,631,600 7,237,479 669,921
Washington 6,746,199 6,371,097 5,988,346 757,853

Looking/Up
February 13th, 2011, 04:42 AM
Interesting! I didn't realize Ontario was that large, in comparison with US states.

MattToronto
February 13th, 2011, 06:12 AM
Me neither! Cool chart!

Huhu
February 13th, 2011, 09:07 AM
Size wise (in land), Ontario is larger than either Texas or California.

Taller, Better
February 13th, 2011, 09:53 AM
I had no idea either about the relative size of the population of Ontario compared to States. I'm quite surprised!

Nouvellecosse
February 13th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Very interesting! I never realised Virginia was so populous. If asked to guess I'd have placed it in the 3-4 million range and smaller than Quebec.

isaidso
February 13th, 2011, 03:01 PM
2001 - 21,330,190
2010 - 25,213,445
Change for Texas 2001-2010 - 3,883,255

2001 - 31,021,000
2010 - 34,238,000
Change for Canada 2001-2010 - 3,217,000

2001 - 34,481,753
2010 - 37,266,600
Change for California 2001-2010 - 2,784,847

oceanmdx
February 13th, 2011, 08:24 PM
Note that from 2006, Ontario pulled away from both Illinois and Pennsylvania... and waved good bye.
... But Quebec got beat by Virginia.

Taller, Better
February 13th, 2011, 08:28 PM
I'm a bit stunned by this comparison. It is not at all what I had assumed. :shocked:

oceanmdx
February 13th, 2011, 08:33 PM
... and in US elections, Pennsylvania is considered a heavyweight state.

oceanmdx
February 13th, 2011, 08:42 PM
I'm a bit stunned by this comparison. It is not at all what I had assumed. :shocked:

People are gravitating from the northern states to the south... to places like Texas, Florida and CA, and AZ.

It wasn't that long ago that both Michigan and Ohio were also more populous than Ontario... so your province has really moved up in NA rankings.... Like I've been saying Toronto is a beast.... that's the place that is responsible for the move up the ranks... now someone should post that amazing future skyline rendering of Toronto from the air.

Ashok
February 13th, 2011, 10:16 PM
I had no idea either about the relative size of the population of Ontario compared to States. I'm quite surprised!

After Texas (18% growth) and Georgia (17%), Ontario (15.7%) is one of the fastest growing province in Canada-USA. I wish Quebec would become a more heavy-weight. It seems like a quiet big guy. Even Montreal, for a city of its sheer size, it is such a shy fellow - hiding away with conservative buildings design and almost no skyscrapers being built. :ohno:

oceanmdx
February 13th, 2011, 10:21 PM
missed a beat...

oceanmdx
February 13th, 2011, 10:22 PM
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AndrewJM3D
February 14th, 2011, 12:35 AM
Poor old Michigan. Detroit is now giving away homes for free to police and giving them $50,000 to fix them up just to get people to stay.

oceanmdx
February 14th, 2011, 12:48 AM
^^ If you would have said that would happen in the future, even 10 years ago, people would have called you a crackpot.

Large parts of the US are in big trouble.... growth in some formerly booming southern states has really slowed. In California, they are even ripping down new homes because no one wants them! Detroit is planning on leveling thousands of old homes.

Victorville, CA:

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/05/inventory-glut-tearing-down-new-homes-in-victorville.html

That was dumb... they could have found some Canadians to buy the whole neighborhood.

CanadianDemon
February 14th, 2011, 01:05 AM
I had no idea either about the relative size of the population of Ontario compared to States. I'm quite surprised!

I'm suprised you guys didn't know! From the way I'm seeing it you guys act like Ontario has 9 million instead of 13-14..

CanadianDemon
February 14th, 2011, 01:08 AM
I honestly wouldn't be suprised though if Alberta hits that list by 2015 with the way Edmonton, Fort McMurray and Calgary are moving. As well as the smaller cities.

oceanmdx
February 14th, 2011, 01:32 AM
^^ Think again... it will take Alberta many decades to get on that list - if ever.

spongeg
February 14th, 2011, 01:37 AM
i am surprised ontario people are surprised haha - i didn't know they were that self centered haha so self centered they don't realize their own importance in the world haha

koolio
February 14th, 2011, 01:43 AM
My only surprise is that Pennsylvania is smaller than Ontario. With 2 major metros, I thought it would be higher up on the list ... but I guess the northern parts of the state that are occupied by yokels are sparsely populated.

Aside from that, nothing surprising. But California being that big never seizes to amaze me. Quite outstanding.

oceanmdx
February 14th, 2011, 01:46 AM
California's growth is slowing down.... its economy is in such a mess.

I just heard over the radio (CBC Sirius) that Canada took in 281,000 permanent immigrants last year... the highest number in 50 years... Toronto must have got lots of those immigrants (like always) so its population is still rapidly growing.

monkeyronin
February 14th, 2011, 04:00 AM
I honestly wouldn't be suprised though if Alberta hits that list by 2015 with the way Edmonton, Fort McMurray and Calgary are moving. As well as the smaller cities.


Alberta is not going to gain over 3 million people in 4 years.

CanadianDemon
February 14th, 2011, 04:08 AM
Alberta is not going to gain over 3 million people in 4 years.

Okay, I exaggerated a little bit. How about 2025?

Calgary got 200k in 10 years and all of Alberta is raising. Soooo....

oceanmdx
February 14th, 2011, 04:11 AM
^^Not even close, you have to consider the growth of other jurisdictions.

spongeg
February 14th, 2011, 05:43 AM
yah its next to impossible unless canada allows more immigrants and even than its not their top choice

CanadianDemon
February 14th, 2011, 06:24 AM
^^Not even close, you have to consider the growth of other jurisdictions.

You also have to consider birth rates, national migration, death rates, immigration, students (Yea, I consider them semi-permanents), etc...

CanadianDemon
February 14th, 2011, 06:25 AM
yah its next to impossible unless canada allows more immigrants and even than its not their top choice

Because it's probably trying to figure out how to have more homegrown children.

koolio
February 14th, 2011, 06:38 AM
You also have to consider birth rates, national migration, death rates, immigration, students (Yea, I consider them semi-permanents), etc...

Population growth rate is implicitly composed of those factors. What oceanmdx is saying is correct. You cannot extrapolate Calgary's growth rate and apply it uniformly throughout every jurisdiction in the province. There is nothing to suggest that Alberta's population will explode over the short-to-mid term.

CanadianDemon
February 14th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Population growth rate is implicitly composed of those factors. What oceanmdx is saying is correct. You cannot extrapolate Calgary's growth rate and apply it uniformly throughout every jurisdiction in the province. There is nothing to suggest that Alberta's population will explode over the short-to-mid term.

Oui. However, most if not all of Alberta's are on the rise (metaphorically and literally).

I wouldn't be suprised as I said if it reached the list by that time (2025). However, I get where your coming from because the demand is growing only because of the Oil Sands. However, more then likely the Oil Sand developments will expend causing futher growth then currently. So at the rate ALL Alberta cities are growing at I wouldn't be suprusied if it reached about 7.5m.

vid
February 15th, 2011, 06:25 AM
My only surprise is that Pennsylvania is smaller than Ontario. With 2 major metros, I thought it would be higher up on the list ... but I guess the northern parts of the state that are occupied by yokels are sparsely populated.

Aside from that, nothing surprising. But California being that big never seizes to amaze me. Quite outstanding.

Pittsburgh is mostly in Pennsylvania but a good chunk of Philadelphia's metro population is located in New Jersey and Delaware.

Epi
February 15th, 2011, 10:12 AM
Wonder what the same list is in GDP.

isaidso
February 16th, 2011, 04:33 PM
By absolute growth:

01--Texas-----3,883,255
02--California-----2,784,847
03--Florida-----2,327,061
04--Ontario-----1,800,654
05--Georgia-----1,489,670

06--Arizona-----1,372,758
07--North Carolina-----1,256,420
08--Virginia-----760,540
09--Washington-----757,853
10--Alberta-----746,093

11--Quebec-----669,921
12--Colorado-----662,530
13--British Columbia-----623,262
14--Tennessee-----583,364
15--Nevada-----560,413

16--Utah-----539,787
17--South Carolina-----534,657

oceanmdx
February 17th, 2011, 01:54 AM
It would appear that Toronto is now the city with the largest population on the Great Lakes.... Chicago has dropped below 2.7 million (2010 US census)

Izzy Hungwell
February 17th, 2011, 01:55 AM
I guess this goes with something else I heard recently that surprised me - that the 401 is the busiest highway in north america. this was said on an american TV show.

Very interesting! I never realised Virginia was so populous. If asked to guess I'd have placed it in the 3-4 million range and smaller than Quebec.

I would guess most of that population is Washington DC's suburbs, no?

oceanmdx
February 17th, 2011, 01:59 AM
^^ It's been said that the 401 (at Hogg's Hollow) is the busiest highway in the world.

Nouvellecosse
February 17th, 2011, 02:05 AM
I would guess most of that population is Washington DC's suburbs, no?
I just looked it up, and apparently that would be the largest population center, but the state also has two other metro areas of well over a million, namely Richmond and the Norfolk/Newport News/Virginia Beach area. I guess I really didn't know as much about Virginia as I should have.

isaidso
February 17th, 2011, 03:28 AM
I guess this goes with something else I heard recently that surprised me - that the 401 is the busiest highway in north america.


Its the busiest highway in the world.

Epi
February 17th, 2011, 07:32 AM
Its the busiest highway in the world.

I dunno whether to be proud or be appalled. It just shows how completely backwards our transportation system is. We're one giant Fort McMurray.

oceanmdx
February 17th, 2011, 07:53 AM
^^Just wish you had their income.

Taller, Better
February 17th, 2011, 08:46 AM
Pfftt. I have a friend who moved there with high hopes and regrets it dearly now. He pays $1500 a month for a tiny room, and is appalled at how expensive everything is.

oceanmdx
February 17th, 2011, 09:05 AM
^^ Check this out:

http://www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1827592

... but some make big money there.

Taller, Better
February 17th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Grief. Reminds me of a similar real estate frenzy that swept Winnipeg in the late 1800's, and unsavoury land dealers were flipping properties like crazy, with huge inflation in prices. There is big money there, but more for professionals needed by the industry, and less for people doing jobs like cooking, etc....

Epi
February 17th, 2011, 07:33 PM
^^Just wish you had their income.

Not really, I make more than enough money and I would never want to move there.

But what I was referring to is that they have absolutely horrible traffic problems even though there are so few people living there, because there's one main road connecting everything.

isaidso
February 17th, 2011, 11:24 PM
I dunno whether to be proud or be appalled.\


I feel the same way. The 401 amazes and shocks me.

CanadianDemon
February 18th, 2011, 12:18 AM
Not really, I make more than enough money and I would never want to move there.

But what I was referring to is that they have absolutely horrible traffic problems even though there are so few people living there, because there's one main road connecting everything.

That's pretty much all of Alberta. You hit the south-central of the Province (Calgary) then you pretty much take one huge road going north. Unlike Manitoba, where you just keep going west.