Protests in Bahrain [Archive]

QWECXZ

February 17th, 2011, 03:04 PM

Can't people demand a better democracy unless theyre starving and dying of hunger??

Ibrahim Shareef, the head of the leftist/socialist Democratic Action Party was asked on BBC what he wanted and he said "Simply, what you've got, what you have in the UK, a proper functioning democracy, like the one in the UK...."!

Many people are not happy with the new constitution and do not consider it legitimate... Our older constitution was more democratic in some ways...

Also, there are chronic problems, such as political naturalisation, and its not being taken seriously as a problem...

And a certain segment of society is sick of the Prime Minister who has ruled for 40 years, and want to see an elected government as opposed to an appointed one..

The list goes on, freedom of press, freedom of speech, etc...

I see. well, I didn't expect such an uprising in Bahrain to be honest. You know, last year I read that a Saudi prince had warned the Saudis in power that if they don't listen to the demands of the people they will get toppled. I asked the question on the Saudi section on skyscrapercity and they thought I was meddling in their affairs and they didn't really welcome my question. they said that no one cares about that because people live in a good economic situation. so I thought maybe It's the same in other arabic countries who enjoy the wealth of oil. I'm kinda surprised by the recent events in Bahrain to be honest.

with respect to what you said, do you think the people of Bahrain want to topple the current ruling system?

B-Patriot

February 17th, 2011, 03:08 PM

Pakia

February 17th, 2011, 03:17 PM

4 killed, and Manama main hospital appealing for more blood. So so sad that police would attack protesters in the middle of night, without any regard.

I read that they almost surrounded them, without much warnings?

I feel so strong about Bahrain, as I spent 5 years of my childhood there, and never thought any such thing could happen there.

Shite & Sunnis are beside the point, as they're ALL Bahrainies and have EQUAL rights in ALL its affairs, even ruling.

WTH one sect or mostly one Royal family has an upper hand in ruling while others cant contest to be more viable candidates for ruling their country?

The pics & videos that are leaking out are absolutely Horrendous!!

B-Patriot

February 17th, 2011, 03:18 PM

The rumour mill is working overtime, beware..

QWECXZ

February 17th, 2011, 03:18 PM

No, they don't care about the royal family.. Just some angry ones, now after the deaths, make such threats..

Otherwise, people dont care as long as there's a true democracy with equal rights and no discrimination of shiites..

Bahrainis are very different from the rest of the gulf.. Most of the gulf, other than kuwait, are politicaly apathetic and illiterate.. Bahraini's have always been politically active.. And Bahrain had the first political parties in the Arab Gulf region.. We had voting and elections for municipial councils since the 1920's... And there have been protests before.. a lot especially during the 90's...

You seem to know little about Bahrain..

Yes I know little about Bahrain unfortunately. I should learn more about Bahrain and other Persian Gulf states.

I'm watching the BBC World news right now, It showed dozens or hundreds of people that had gathered in a place and were chanting "Hosein", they were not many, like thousands or so, but from what I saw they looked angry. lol. so, are you saying that the protests in Bahrain has nothing to do with the Shia population living in the country under the rule of a sunni ruling system?

B-Patriot

February 17th, 2011, 03:22 PM

Yes I know little about Bahrain unfortunately. I should learn more about Bahrain and other Persian Gulf states.

I'm watching the BBC World news right now, It showed dozens or hundreds of people that had gathered in a place and were chanting "Hosein", they were not many, like thousands or so, but from what I saw they looked angry. lol. so, are you saying that the protests in Bahrain has nothing to do with the Shia population living in the country under the rule of a sunni ruling system?

I dont think they chanted "Hossein".. If they did, it was part of a million other things they chanted like "Allahou Akbar"...

And yes, the protests are not directly related to the fact that the ruling family is sunni.. The immediate demand i think is for the government to resign..

Pakia

February 17th, 2011, 03:33 PM

The rumour mill is working overtime, beware..

Really? Or are we in denial? 4 killed, hundred injured, hospital running out of blood. Does it mean nothing?

Few days old pics, even depict the anger INSPITE OF BAHRAINI GOVERNMENT PROMISING TO DOLE OUT US$2700. Didn't work, I guess. :lol:

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QWECXZ

February 17th, 2011, 03:40 PM

I dont think they chanted "Hossein".. If they did, it was part of a million other things they chanted like "Allahou Akbar"...

And yes, the protests are not directly related to the fact that the ruling family is sunni.. The immediate demand i think is for the government to resign..

the BBC is showing them chanting "Hosein", the BBC corespondent also said that Hosein is the name of a Martyred Imam etc that I'm very sure I hear them correctly.
Well, when I compare the things that they say in the BBC and what you're saying now, I think that the BBC is probably exaggerating things.

smussuw

February 17th, 2011, 03:54 PM

Enta ghaby or you just want to sound cool on the internet?sometimes I question ur intelligence really. Can you tell me what was wrong with what I said ya thaky? After u explain urself and apologize for embarrassing urself and ur stupidity as u usually do please do me a favor and never comment on anything I say? You are too pathetic for me right now.

B-Patriot

February 17th, 2011, 04:00 PM

the BBC is showing them chanting "Hosein", the BBC corespondent also said that Hosein is the name of a Martyred Imam etc that I'm very sure I hear them correctly.
Well, when I compare the things that they say in the BBC and what you're saying now, I think that the BBC is probably exaggerating things.

I'm obviously not denying the deaths.. But if u lived in Bahrain and received some of the BBM's we're getting, both sides are lying a lot, and there's a lot of misinformation even on BBC...

But i guess the general picture is correct.. Its sad...

And perhaps they did chant hossein, but i just mean i've seen vids, and thats not something theyve been chanting too much...

And its not hundreds, its thousands, which is significant for a little country with a small population like Bahrain...

I just mean beware of some of the anecdotes u might here.. Obviously not number of confirmed deaths.. BBC actually is conservative in reporting the number of deaths...

Wild el Bahrain

February 17th, 2011, 05:12 PM

May Allah have mercy on our small country. Ihope the wiser heads step up to stop the country going into a sectarian violence.

February 18th, 2011, 06:04 AM

CRAZY
SMussuw ma gal shay laish hal kalam "'3aby"

smussuw

February 18th, 2011, 06:56 AM

CRAZY
SMussuw ma gal shay laish hal kalam "'3aby"Because of his stupidity (not his first time) he jumped to my post without realizing that I was referring to the pace of the construction and not the protests :laugh:

Alrayyan

February 18th, 2011, 02:28 PM

Because of his stupidity (not his first time) he jumped to my post without realizing that I was referring to the pace of the construction and not the protests :laugh:

+1

Yousifovic

February 18th, 2011, 05:01 PM

alot were injured and today before while the army was shooting the protests DIRECTLY !!!!
seriously WT* ! no matter what ...humans should NOT be treated like that ! either in Bahrain , Lybia or anywhere else...
with respect , but any ruler which kills his people directly , looses his legitimacy !

CrazY

February 18th, 2011, 07:02 PM

Lol, sorry for the misunderstanding... I hope you still love me smussuw?

smussuw

February 18th, 2011, 08:47 PM

^^ I am a tolerant guy :hug:

DaZed and DiZzy

February 18th, 2011, 10:18 PM

i think the "king" sees this through a sectarian lens and is a bit more paranoid
I think everybody should go to the streets and say we are all muslim

LeKemono

February 18th, 2011, 11:12 PM

LeKemono

February 18th, 2011, 11:17 PM

http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/447595
^^ THIS IS A GOOD NEWS 4 ALL BAHRAINIS...

CrazY

February 18th, 2011, 11:45 PM

^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUISajCv_pY

P.S. I don't no whether to post this video or not... is a graphic video, head shot of one the protesters... its horrible, Please don't watch this video if you're sensitive...

LeKemono

February 19th, 2011, 12:02 AM

^^ I saw it already... will u should see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1TyeQ6YfLM
its from "BahrainTV", These are the real events that happened 17th of this month...
u mustn't listen to "BBC or Al-Jazeira", they're all lying!!! especially BBC!!

CrazY

February 19th, 2011, 12:27 AM

It's weird you want me not to watch the BBC which has been neutral towards every report it has done on any protests in the region, and you want me to believe the state owned media channel that is a mouthpiece of the Bahraini government which is ordering to shoot people in the head ?

Anyway, im not watching reports from any channel, im watching video from the protesters... can you explain to me why is it ok for an army to use deadly force on peaceful protesters with live automatic rounds?

Surely, you have to think that there some kind of line your government passed by doing these kinds of things towards its own citizens?

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B-Patriot

February 19th, 2011, 12:46 AM

http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/447585
^^ These are the REAL Bahraini People .. Celebrating In Love of His Majesty King Hamad and Bahrain "I WAS THERE TOO, Lol :P"
but... we're all brothers "sunni or si3i" >> klna a5wan :)

What does REAL mean? The rest are FAKE mathalan?

Lets not be silly LeKomono... Plus both sides have been lying a lot.. And the state media has definately been biased, until today, it became a bit moderate..

And people should respect the dead, and if not the dead their mothers and grieving family instead of going out celebrating.. These celebrations could have waited!

Pakia

February 19th, 2011, 04:16 PM

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Reclaiming their right to assemble & protest at Pearl Circle
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Touching the blood of a martyr
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LeKemono

February 19th, 2011, 06:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4G7dUFrPJk

CrazY

February 19th, 2011, 11:41 PM

Are these "REAL" Bahrainis ??

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CrazY

February 20th, 2011, 01:31 PM

يا اشباه الرجال في البحرين رجال

اعذرونا يا اطيب شعب،كان مشهدا مثيرا للغثيان،اجبرنا على تغطية انوفنا،حتي لا نشتم رائحة مواقفهم فنشتمهم!كانت مقرفة اوضاعهم-الديموقراطيون التقدميون الشعبيون الاسلاميون والجنوس-وهم يغطون رؤوسهم في وحل طائفيتهم،وتشابه علينا الامر مثلكم،هل كانوا"يخشون"رؤوسهم ام كانوا"يشخون"على شعاراتهم وهتافاتهم الداعية للحرية والكرامة،لكل شعوب الارض الا انتم!

اعذرونا يا اجمل شعب،كنا نظن مثلكم انهم رجال،كلمتهم لا تزحزحها امواج العنصرية،ولا رياح الطائفية،وتبين انهم اشباه رجال تبللوا مع رياح الكوس،واختفت اصواتهم التي طالما لعلعت كمعلمات الحواري من الصليبخات وحتى الصفاة،طالبناهم بموقف او تصريح او دمعة حزن،واذ بهم يتراكضون نحو الباب ملثمي الوجه،لم نشاهد غير قبح"استهم"!

اعذرونا يا اشجع شعب،كثيرة الاقلام الجبانة التي تجاهلت الامكم،وتلونت بعذر ان ثورتكم بلون واحد، وعميت اعينهم مشاهدة اللون الاحمر وهو يغطي جباهكم،وكم كانت شجاعة تلك الصحافية التي وقفت في وجه الوزير في مؤتمره مع لفيف من القردة المساندة،لتقول لكرشه:كم كان مجرما نظامك،وكم كانوا حاقدين على من سكنوها،قبل ان تصلها لحاكم بالفي عام!

اعذرونا يا اصدق شعب،فنحن لدينا تيارات خارج نطاق التغطية، يرقصون الشعبي،الوطني،التمنية والاصلاح،يتشدقون بحرية الشعوب،وحق التظاهر،والمعارضة والاصلاح،وبعضهم طالب بالثورة العربية الكبرى،ولانه يعاني من عقدة اصل ومذهب اجداده،فقد صمت كفرا،وكأن القتلى في ساحاتكم من ابناء الخنازير،عذرا فهو يظنهم اشرف وانقى من دمائكم!

اعذرونا يا انظف شعب،فانتم تتجاورون مع اوسخ البشر،واكثرهم حقدا ونفاقا،تتعاملون مع بشر ينظفون مدية القاتل،ويمسحون احذية الطغاة بالسنتهم!فهل تريدون منهم ان يقفوا ويمسحوا الدمع على وجناتكم؟!انهم شذاذ آفاق،ما عرفوا يوما معنى لكرامة،ولا اشتموا يوما رائحة وطن،ولا عشقوا يوما تراب بلد...!علفهم وطنهم،مستوطنون تحت الموائد،فهل تريدون منهم ان يعرفوا ماذا يعني وطنا تعيش فيه غريبا،بين مواطنين بنغال وهنود و"نور"،تجنسوا وسكنوا الفلل القريبة من قراكم؟!اعذرونا فالفداوي لا يعرف مثلكم معنى الفداء!

اعذرونا يا اطهر شعب،نحن نملك آلات اعلامية منافقة حتى آخر قطرة حبر،وكاميراتنا لا تصور القتلى بل بشوت الزعماء،واقلامنا لا تكتب الا شتما وشماتة،وصحفنا تواري اخباركم في الصفحات الداخلية خجلا ان تكشف عوراتهم،ونضطر متابعة اعلام الغرب الكافر الذين تقتلون باسلحتهم،لان اعلاميينا مازالوا يتصورون انفسهم بنات ليل،عليهن طاعة قوادها!

اعذرونا يا اكرم شعب،نعلم انه لا حرج على عدو يقتل،او سفاح يمارس المجازر فهذا دينه وديدنه،وهذه طبيعته وطبيعة اجداده،الحرج من الاصدقاء الذين كنتم وكنا نظن بهم خيرا،واذ بهم يحملون الدفوف والطبول،وينظمون الى رابطة مشجعي الانظمة القمعية،واعذروا سذاجة البعض،واعذروا كبيرهم الذي علمهم الغباء الذي لوثنا بمقولات الاصطفاف والنسيج الوطني،فقد اشاعوا قبل شهر فقط"نقف معهم تحت شعار الوطنية،حتي يقفوا معنا..."واذ بهم يكشفون عوراتهم في اول اختبار!

اعذرونا فقد تصورنا انكم ستختبؤون في المطابخ مثل نوابنا الثوار اذا شاهدتم ظل شرطي،واذ بكم تعودن،وتقفون،وتهتفون بوجه الجلادين الذين تراجعوا مرعوبين!!

ولا تعذروني واشتموني كما تحبون،ايها الكتاب والمثقفون والسياسيون والمومسون...كيف حال حناجركم واقلامكم وابتساماتكم الصفراء؟كيف حالكم وانتم تطبقون فكيكم على لوزكم الصدئة؟كيف قضيتم ليلتكم،تلك الليلة التي هتكت فيها الارواح،وداست الجنازير اجساد البشر؟!هل تلحفتم جيدا بخبثكم وجبنكم؟ام تبادلتم الانخاب لان القتلي شيعة،عملاء،مجوس،جواسيس،اولاد متعة...يستحقون الصلب والحرق بعد قتلهم!

لعنت ساعة انتم رجالها،وثورة انتم قادتها،واصلاح انتم اربابه،وحق انتم طلابه،وعدالة انتم عشاقها،وحرية انتم انصارها..!

جعفر رجب

P.S. This is an article from a kuwaiti writer, his newspaper didn't want to publish... The writer is my father's cousin.

LeKemono

February 20th, 2011, 08:49 PM

check all the videos at this website >>> http://www.peacebahrain.com

Alrayyan

February 20th, 2011, 09:16 PM

check all the videos at this website >>> http://www.peacebahrain.com

:ohno: I dont know what to say really...

LeKemono

February 20th, 2011, 09:40 PM

:ohno: I dont know what to say really...

u must see "Media Lies" in the right side of the video >> and see how they are lying "I mean some of the protesters and some channels such as BBC or AlJazeera" :ohno: !!!

B-Patriot

February 20th, 2011, 11:56 PM

Media lies are from both sides...

And half of those 'lies' are ridiculous.. the ones in the video in the link.. the arguments saying they are lies... Doctors in Salmaniya said the patients they got had critical injuries with bullets in their thigh, etc...!

It was not just 7 with minor injuries.. One is supposedly brain dead, from some sort of bullet to the head...

This is so pathetic...

You should learn to disect the truths and identify the lies on both sides, cuz trust me, they both lie! However at the end of the day, lies or not, its not acceptable to have such deaths and serious injuries! That is what matters after all the lies are said and broadcasted!

CrazY

February 21st, 2011, 06:17 AM

When was it ok for an army to shoot at protesters, at the end of the videos they say "dont believe the hype".... are you serious or just retarded?

Did you see the footage from the hospital and the photos of the victims with scattered gun shot wounds to their body? is that a hype too.... anyway don't be blind just because you a royal loyalist or whatever, shooting at protesters with shotguns and live automatic weapons is never the way to go. For goodness sake have you seen what happened to the nurses and doctors that were treating the wounded and having complete nervous breakdowns? At least respect the dead and the wounded, they are bahrainis, being from a different religious or political background doesnt make it ok to slaughter them in their own country by "their" own army. ok 7abibi?

B-Patriot

February 21st, 2011, 06:43 AM

a7la shay the clip arguing they might have have blood packs, wein 3abalhom e7na, hollywood? and saying the man looked at the camera, lol, sure, i could see him smile cuz the video was so high resolution!

CrazY

February 21st, 2011, 06:56 AM

LOL, I know, get shoot at and look at the camera?? wtf does that even add in an argument like that... they were laying down on the floor wounded and scared, ughh ma3endhum shay ygolona, if the government was right they would have kept the army and the police on the streets.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2011/02/18/ac.damon.protesters.shot.cnn.html

TheRedofBahrain

February 21st, 2011, 06:42 PM

idiamindada

February 21st, 2011, 06:59 PM

maybe those syiah/shiite protesters want to topple down monarchy and turn Bahrain as Iran?

and then 30-40 years later making another protest to overthrow the regime they've supported?

why can't these peoples live in peace?

smussuw

February 21st, 2011, 07:06 PM

^^ What an insulting statement to Bahrainis, why do u think they shouldn't have a choice?

idiamindada

February 21st, 2011, 07:17 PM

protesting activities that swept all over Arab is not a coincidence. i suspect a hidden hand is behind this….;)

maybe the Tunisia and Mesir are the true one……but Bahrain?

hell, the one that should be toppled is…..the Saud Family!

smussuw

February 21st, 2011, 07:28 PM

^^ maybe, but the Bahraini government is not an angle either.

idiamindada

February 21st, 2011, 07:58 PM

^^ maybe, but the Bahraini government is not an angle either.

you mean, angel? :P

F1 is cancelled, it's somehow 'sabotaging' ur own economy…..

Fuel price will increase…and someone in the west will get richer….;) trust me!

Alrayyan

February 21st, 2011, 07:59 PM

Well the protesters should be happy about their situation, atleast they are not being bombarded and raided with military aircraft (Libya).....

smussuw

February 21st, 2011, 08:00 PM

you mean, angel? :P

F1 is cancelled, it's somehow 'sabotaging' ur own economy…..

Fuel price will increase…and someone in the west will get richer….;) trust me!Another insulting statement. When you are fighting for ur freedom, everything else is minor.

CrazY

February 21st, 2011, 10:06 PM

They only thing that is unfortunate is how people view this from a sectarian view.... Yes your population is mostly shia, the Arab shia... and I dont get how they would turn bahrian into iran... they still didnt have any slogans about making a religious state or supporting the iranian regime..

you guys see this as oh yeah Egypt and Tunisia are true, and the bahrainis have a secret agenda? You know living in denial, with your eyes closed is not a very good way to live.. Ok we get it, you dont trust your own country men because they come from a different sect. you support the syrians and the pakis that killed them in their own country.. mabrok

At least the bahraini journalist had the balls to tell it as it is to your minister wel bagah ely kan ma3ah!

B-Patriot

February 21st, 2011, 11:37 PM

yes the deaths we're very unfortunate, but there is no need for slogans like "death to alkhalifa", thats just ridiculous. Everyones comparing Bahrain's royal family to the regimes in Egypt and Tunisia which is ridiculous, Bahrain probably has one of the most generous and forward thinking rule in the Arab world...yes the gov isnt perfect but theres no need to call for a "revolution" and refuse to talk with the crown prince. The protests in the Pearl Roundabout isn't licensed in the first place, which makes it illegal. The protesters there are acting like their own government asking people for IDs and directing traffic. And they were warned before the security forces 'stormed' on them out of nowhere, and some women and children listened and left. I heard they were people chanting "stay and become martyrs for your country!"....this isnt what you would call peaceful... I even saw pictures of the protesters having knives and swords

but yes i will be the first to say that some things they are protesting for is justified like naturalization (which nobody agrees with), but i really think with all my heart that we are fortunate to have a forward thinking rule.

Imagine the protesters acting like this in a different country, say Saudi or the UAE,
Bahrainis have it good.

You're right about some of what you said.. But certain changes need to be made.. from both sides.. And people shouldn't pay attention to the 'death to al-khalifa' chants.. They happened after ppl got hysteric following the deaths/victims... No political society called for the removal of al-khalifa...

And i dont think we should thank god we're not like saudi, and call it a day, otherwise we'll never make progress.. LoL..

You should listen to Prince Walid's speech, he's very wise, what he said.. Its silly to blame things on outside intereference.. Idiamindada is stupid, and ignorant, and obviously knows very little about Bahrain and its history..

Its not supposed to be a license, its supposed to be i56aar.. And it shouldnt be such a big issue, they should get over it already.. Did Yemen, Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Morocco, Algeria talk about unlicensed protests.. Are we the perfect by-the-book country to focus and stress this point so much to the extent its becoming an excuse? (3ither aqba7 men thanb)

And for those who say the protests weren't peaceful.. I did not partake, but look at ur tv screens.. Look at the Yemeni protests.. throwing stones, burning tyres... Look at the Libyan protests, absolute chaos.. Remember the Egyptian protests we all cheered, as they burned down the ruling party's HQ, and mayoral offices, and police stations..

You compare the fact that 'weve got it good, look at saudi, would they be able to protest'... compare also how we've got it good (this time around at least) in relation to the other countries with protests, as we have seen no fires, no vandalism, no destruction of public property!!

B-Patriot

February 21st, 2011, 11:39 PM

And one more thing.. the guy with the hollywood bloodpacks, pretending to be hurt in the video.. One of them that was "shot" in the head, and was said to be critical and maybe even brain dead.. Well he passed away today.. May he rest in peace..

One hell of a hollywood stunt, aye?

Ramy H

February 21st, 2011, 11:52 PM

RIP to all those that have passed away

B-Patriot

February 22nd, 2011, 09:57 AM

Anyways, i remain neutral.. Both sides have their faults.. My message is lets not be naiive... Lets not get caught up with this or that, or this party's mis-truths, or the others...

We hope for the best, hopefully the dialogue makes progress and succeeds..

Face81

February 22nd, 2011, 01:02 PM

Interesting article.......

Gulf allies back Bahrain rulers with likely caveat: No big concessions

By Barbara Surk (CP) – 18 hours ago

MANAMA, Bahrain — As tanks moved into Bahrain's capital, top envoys from across the Gulf gathered inside a seaside palace and emerged with a message: They were united behind the nation's monarch and his ruling system.

But the show of solidarity last week among the Gulf Arab fraternity — including heavyweight Saudi Arabia — was more than just outreach in a time of crisis. It also sent an implicit warning to Bahrain's leaders not to allow more spillover from pro-democracy unrest within the club of sheiks and kings who hold sway from Kuwait to Oman.

"In other words, they are thinking, 'We need to keep a lid on this,'" said Shadi Hamid, director of research at The Brookings Doha Center in Qatar.

So even as Bahrain's rulers offer talks with the opposition to ease a week-old uprising in their island kingdom, their negotiating options appear limited by worries from Gulf allies, experts say.

Powerful neighbour Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states are likely to apply serious pressure on Bahrain's royal house to avoid deep concessions that could embolden other mutinies against the near-absolute control of the region's leaders.

Already, there are uncommon rumblings of dissent in the Arab world's richest corner, which also is home to Washington's front-line partners against Iran.

A handful of Saudi activists formed a political party earlier this month to try and open reform talks, including efforts to expand rights for women. The founding members of the group were later detained.

In Kuwait — with the most robust political opposition in the region — reform groups plan a rally March 8 and descendants of stateless desert tribesman have started to press for citizenship and generous state social benefits.

The worry may be even reflected indirectly by the popular pan-Arab broadcaster Al-Jazeera, which was founded by Qatar's ruling emir. Coverage of Egypt's revolt was virtually nonstop while the handling of Bahrain's chaos right next door has been far more routine.

"The political situation might be different in the Gulf countries, like Bahrain, to that of Egypt and Tunisia," said Christopher Davidson, a professor of Gulf affairs at England's University of Durham. "But it's the conviction that people power can change the presidents, monarch and rulers that unites them."

It's also brought urgent visits from Washington and London to consult with their critical Gulf allies.

U.S. Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, began a Gulf trip Sunday in Saudi Arabia, which has pledged to use "all its capabilities" to support leaders in Bahrain — home to the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet.

Prime Minister David Cameron headed to the region Monday.

For decades, the Gulf has been a place of easy predictability for Western policy makers. Its ruling dynasties — some, like Bahrain, go back centuries — showed little tolerance for dissident and used oil riches and patronage in a quasi-feudal social contract. Supporters would be rewarded in exchange for loyalty and a tactic understanding to stay out of politics.

Challenges to the status quo typically came from within, such as a 1970 palace coup in Oman during which the son pushed out his father.

Suddenly, the orders are coming from the streets.

A manifesto issued by a Bahrain youth group Monday demanded a clean sweep: abolish the monarchy, replace the military with an "army of citizens" and bring authorities to trial for attacks on protesters. Other opposition groups have proposed less drastic steps. They suggest that the monarch can remain but must give up his political privileges and powers to the elected parliament.

The lack of a clear opposition voice suggests it could be difficult to move quickly into possible negotiations with Bahrain's Crown Prince Sheik Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, who has been selected by the king to lead the proposed dialogue. And, in any event, demonstrators have been hesitant to take the prince up on his offer of talks.

Many protesters in Manama's Pearl Square — the heart of Bahrain's uprising — feel they have already shaken up the Gulf's rigid hierarchies.

"The Gulf leaders are taking what they see in Bahrain as a warning sign. That's why they are giving so much support to our government. Especially Saudi should be especially worried because the oppression they have, particularly against their women, is becoming unbearable," said Zainab Dahneem, a 35-year-old teacher.

Yasser Taher, a businessmen, believes the Gulf citizens are no longer content to accept the trappings of a middle-class life — or better — in exchange for giving the rulers a free ride.

"The Gulf people may be wealthy, but these are not movements to ask for food or money. We want our civil and political rights," said Taher, 46. "People are ready ... they are waiting to see what will happen in Bahrain and that will embolden them more to do something."

There's little doubt that similar assessments are being made by Gulf rulers, who have watched the chain reaction of Arab anger reach their doorsteps. A collapse of the Bahrain dynasty — or even significant power giveaways — would be seen as a "taking important bricks out of the entire ruling facade in the Gulf," said Mustafa Alani, a regional analyst at the Gulf Research Center in Dubai.

With Bahrain, there is also an added element of concern. The Sunni leaders fear that Bahrain's Shiite majority — about 70 per cent of the population and the mainstay of the protests — could offer a foothold for Shiite powerhouse Iran. Even though there are no obvious ties with Tehran now, Sunnis recall Shiite groups inspired by Iran's Islamic Revolution in the early 1980s and note the some Iranian hard-liners still refer to Bahrain as the Islamic Republic's "14th province."

That could account for the unusually strong pledges of support by authorities in Saudi, the main rival to Iran on the Arab side of the Gulf. It was unclear, however, whether they were speaking only of political backing or if they were ready to send military forces over the causeway into Bahrain to help shore up the monarchy.

Kuwait's emir, Sheik Sabah Al Ahmed Al Sabah, also stressed that "the security of Bahrain is the security of the region."

After a meeting of Gulf foreign ministers in Bahrain on Thursday — just after tanks were temporarily deployed in parts of the capital — the United Arab Emirates' foreign minister, Sheik Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, said "any threat to Bahrain security will impact the whole" region, according to the state news agency WAM.

Simon Henderson, a Mideast analyst at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, described the Gulf rulers as digging in to protect systems whose time may be coming to an end.

"The king or emir is the CEO of a country and member of the ruling family are the shareholders, not the people," he said.

"That's the way it used to be," he added. "That was before people across the Middle East marched on the streets, demanding their rights now matter how brutal or how ancient the regime in power."

___

Murphy reported from Dubai, United Arab Emirates. Associated Press writer Hadeel Al-Shalchi in Manama, Bahrain, contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2011 The Canadian Press. All rights reserved.

Source (http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jJsqUsLtcv-hX7stxRmwXGdwEuUA?docId=6021807)

jsaenzl

February 22nd, 2011, 02:57 PM

I`MA SUPPORT THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH,,, THUMB DOWN TYRANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheRedofBahrain

February 22nd, 2011, 07:29 PM

Pakia

February 22nd, 2011, 08:15 PM

Libyan National newspaper "Quryna" now under opposition in Benghazi.

Click on this link to read it in English, direct from Libya, or www.Quryna.com in Arabic

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.quryna.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DQURYNA%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26prmd%3Divnsu&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhj7JQQSMf7sxWZm3BWuOhVK1xiaOg

Article with Barbara Streisand( a jew) praising the Egyption revolution & wishes the Bahrainis luck in their pursuit of reforms. THEY EVEN HAD THE BALLS TP POST HER PHOTO.

What a difference a little freedom makes :banana:

ariclul

February 22nd, 2011, 08:54 PM

:shifty:

Ramy H

February 22nd, 2011, 10:43 PM

protests today

courtesy of RedhaHaji

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Blizzy

February 23rd, 2011, 08:48 AM

B-Patriot

February 23rd, 2011, 09:44 AM

Ramy, only one of your pics works.. the first...

LeKemono

February 23rd, 2011, 12:50 PM

Dubai_Boy

February 23rd, 2011, 02:18 PM

الله يرحم الجميع ..... سبحان الله

February 23rd, 2011, 05:48 PM

300 thousand support the ruling family thats a great figure comparing it the bahrain population
3ashaw ahal il ba7reeen il san3een ;)
o 3asha il malek 7amad :)

Dubai_Boy

February 23rd, 2011, 05:56 PM

where did you get that figure from ?

Alrayyan

February 23rd, 2011, 05:57 PM

where did you get that figure from ?

National TV.

Pakia

February 23rd, 2011, 09:30 PM

^^ How is that surprising, that someone is against a regime and supporting protesters?
Surprising part is that they reporting it & posting her pic.Quryna until few days ago, was very pro-Gaddafi and very anti-western esp. anti-jew. Thus confirming its not under their influence anymore. comprende?

300 thousand support the ruling family thats a great figure comparing it the bahrain population
3ashaw ahal il ba7reeen il san3een ;)
o 3asha il malek 7amad :)

This might have been after they cashed their $2600 checks from the government. :lol:

LeKemono

February 23rd, 2011, 10:24 PM

National TV.

^^ BahrainTV + CNN + BBC + Al Arabiya, they were all at this event at "Al Fateh".
and here is a good news after this ^^ : www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/448153

LeKemono

February 23rd, 2011, 10:31 PM

Surprising part is that they reporting it & posting her pic.Quryna until few days ago, was very pro-Gaddafi and very anti-western esp. anti-jew. Thus confirming its not under their influence anymore. comprende?

This might have been after they cashed their $2600 checks from the government. :lol:

^^ OUR LOYALTY IS FOR BAHRAIN AND OUR KING, NOT FOR MONEY!! IF YOU THINK SO?! :gossip:

B-Patriot

February 24th, 2011, 12:10 AM

And according to NY Times, it was over 100,000...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/world/middleeast/23bahrain.html?ref=middleeast

And according to other sources, around 500,000...

None of the numbers concerning pro or anti-gov rallies are accurate.. Far from it infact..

Once again, dont believe everything you hear..

CrazY

February 24th, 2011, 12:13 AM

300 million bahrainis rallied for the King?

February 24th, 2011, 08:30 AM

^^^
300 thousand....... ;)

B-Patriot

February 24th, 2011, 09:00 AM

He was trying to take the piss i'm sure.. ^^

CrazY

February 24th, 2011, 04:16 PM

LOL, anyone who believes in those figures is a retard, no offense.

LeKemono

February 24th, 2011, 09:12 PM

LOL, anyone who believes in those figures is a retard, no offense.

^^ hhhh, believe me >> if you where there... you'll say that 300.000 "7dh shway!!"

CrazY

February 25th, 2011, 03:22 AM

Again who counted heads in that rally, or any rally? Have you ever seen 300,000 people in one place? Plus, Thats like 3/5 of the bahrainis... 7ata laaw ay rally said they had these numbers i wouldn't believe them... These kind of numbers cant even fit the National Mall in Washington D.C, are you telling me Bahrain can fit 300,000 Bahrainis in place? come on dude, use your head "shway".

Did you see the photos from the rally the other week or earlier this week? the pro-gov. rally with all the Indians and Pakis holding some shiekhs photos and bahraini flags? Are they counted too as pro-Khalifa Bahrainis? lol

February 25th, 2011, 07:13 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://srv.bahrainforums.com/up/img/2011/02/22/424a2497223d025ec181744554c6a692.jpg

CrazY

February 25th, 2011, 12:01 PM

Look just count the heads of a bit of the photo and then estimate...it will be probably 10 to 15 thousand in that picture... If you can supply 20 to 30 more pictures of surrounding areas at the same time, equally dense with people, then I will believe the numbers you have stated...

I have expat friends in Bahrain that said they got stuck in traffic for 3 hours that day.. They noticed the traffic light only staying green for 20 or 30 seconds at a time...
they were trying to cause traffic jams to pretend all these people are pro-gov. protesters.. and there were helicopters that could be seen to be taking pictures at that time.

Why did BTV, and the BNA that you're using as a credible reference not cover the anti-protests equally? the one that happened at day light on a stretch of road, and it was quite sizable..

Btw, oldest trick in the book, putting a light to the camera's lens so you cant see whats after that light... and whats up with the women's faces in the distance? lol

Wild el Bahrain

February 25th, 2011, 12:04 PM

I was at that rally,it was really scary at the turnout especially if you think that this took two days to organize and spread the word.The turnout was the biggest that Bahrain ever saw and it consisted of all kinds of Bahrainis.I know alot who didnt go as well and alot who got stuck in traffic.What matters though is the message of the rally which was Bahrain UNITY and not sectarianism.Another was that we want reform and we will go the talk with the govt.
Another point i want to stress is that if the speaker wasnt Dr.Abdullatif Al Mahmood,many people wouldnt have come.Especially if it was someone from Parliment or a political association.

LeKemono

February 27th, 2011, 02:16 PM

Tom_Green

March 3rd, 2011, 02:57 PM

Pearl of the Gulf

March 3rd, 2011, 06:12 PM

^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Bahraini_protests

LeKemono

March 7th, 2011, 10:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/user/bahraintelevision#p/u/0/lwoV1AvMAr8
^^ and see the (part 2,3)

Wild el Bahrain

March 8th, 2011, 04:49 PM

Our media talks only about Lybia. Informations about Bahrain are rare. Can someone sum up the events of the last week or two. The last thing i heard was that political prisoners have left prison and some tanks from SA have been on the way to Bahrain.

What has happened and what is teh situation right now.
The situation has turned into a joke.It seems the so called movement were gunning for people to die to exploit their blood.They want to turn this into Tunis or Egypt to get global coverage.The govt became smart withdrew any kind of government representatives from the area"lulu roundabout".The people there wanted to intimidate the people for things to escalate and started blocking major streets and areas.People are really fed up of them especially that they r making a 20 minute ride into a 3 hour one be use of their demonstrations.
On the other hand the crown prince here has asked for dialogue where everything can be discussed,that was more than 2 weeks ago but they still didn't accept going to the roundtable.
Another thing which came into the equation is that a new movement for unity mostly people having civil demands and not wanting to express their views on the expense of intimidating other people.Their gathering amounted unto 300,000 people who want changes but don't want to overthrow the govt.
if you have any more questions or want any clarifications I'm here for u buddy.

Wild el Bahrain

March 8th, 2011, 04:55 PM

oh forgot to mention that the king put in several changes in cabinet.created 20'000 jobs in ministry of interior.he also gave around 2500$ to every family before this even happened.He also has ordered building 50000 extra housing units.
The demonstrators on the other hand have occupied the major hospital here in Bahrain outing their camping tents outside and bothering the people in and out.Shiite doctors in the hospital have turned political turning back Sunni patients and forcing and blackmailing other dr.s to submit to their agenda or else...
They also did the same thing in the ministry of education,forcing teachers and young students to leave school and demonstrate with slogans of death to the govt.nothing weirder than 9 and 10 year olds shouting that...!!!!

B-Patriot

March 8th, 2011, 11:13 PM

It is interesting to note, however, that the calls for gov'ts resignation and a new constitution are the demands of 7 political parties/societies.. not all of which comprise shiites..

smussuw

March 9th, 2011, 05:17 AM

No one can deny that this is a sectarian motivated movements that was a result of the government constant discrimination against the majority. Not that am an expert but the thing that annoy me the most is why the government doesn't simply resign to show the good well of the king. The PM has been there for 40 years so why can't he be the scrape goat for good.

CrazY

March 9th, 2011, 07:52 AM

^^ Because the Saudi's want him in power?

LeKemono

March 9th, 2011, 08:44 PM

Medy15

March 10th, 2011, 11:21 AM

Arab monarchs nervously watch Morocco

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/18533d14-44f9-11e0-80e7-00144feab49a.html

LeKemono

March 13th, 2011, 12:05 PM

"Peaceful Protesters" ATTACKING police >>
http://www.peacebahrain.com/2011/03/peaceful-protestors-attacking-police/
and this is in Riffa >>
http://www.youtube.com/user/bahraintelevision

TheRedofBahrain

March 13th, 2011, 05:46 PM

appalling what happened at Bahrain University

smussuw

March 13th, 2011, 07:18 PM

^^ what exactly happened? Ive seen some videos.

CrazY

March 13th, 2011, 08:45 PM

I read an article saying the opposition were protesting and blocking the entrance, then the police started firing tear gas, then people in plain clothes attacked the protesters, and everything went downhill from there...

B-Patriot

March 14th, 2011, 12:57 AM

"Peaceful Protesters" ATTACKING police >>
http://www.peacebahrain.com/2011/03/peaceful-protestors-attacking-police/
and this is in Riffa >>
http://www.youtube.com/user/bahraintelevision

Habibi, today was a mess, and things happened that shouldn't have.. Bas still, BTV shows one side..

If you're gonna open this can of worms, what about the pro-gov mob that closed down 24-hr supermarkets and Shi3a stores by intimidating and threatening...

What about people creating check-points, i got asked going to el Hidd where are u from, do u live here, and whats your name!

The blame, and the mess, and all the shit is not the fault of one side, or protesters alone...

None of this is acceptable.. Both sides are at fault...

Kutsuit

March 14th, 2011, 01:00 AM

I know a few people in Bahrain. I hope they come out of this turmoil safely. The government of Bahrain should listen to the protesters' demands before things continue to escalate/worsen, not that it hasn't already.

Kutsuit

March 14th, 2011, 01:28 AM

"Peaceful Protesters" ATTACKING police >>
http://www.peacebahrain.com/2011/03/peaceful-protestors-attacking-police/
Hi, are you sure this was deliberate? It looks like the person driving the car ran over a protester as well.

CrazY

March 14th, 2011, 05:40 PM

Was this really necessary?

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Alrayyan

March 14th, 2011, 06:29 PM

^^ Just makes matters worse....

BTW the Peninsula Shield is in Bahrain right now right ??

mwinyi

March 15th, 2011, 01:14 AM

Saudis have invaded Bahrain now

I wonder how this will end.

TheRedofBahrain

March 15th, 2011, 01:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0uvyQztMQ&NR=1

silly_string

March 16th, 2011, 06:16 AM

I heard from a couple of coworkers who have friends or relatives in Bahrain that the protesters started attacking expats and that some expats have already fled the country or can't leave their homes. Is there any truth to this?

B-Patriot

March 16th, 2011, 11:10 AM

There is an article about this in the Gulf Daily News i believe..

However, who attacked is unclear.. And its doubtful its protesters... Unless the expat was a shady pakistani.. Cuz according to reports the terrorism started with Pakistani and Yemeni men recruited by the ministry of interior to vandalize, and terrorize...

Many were caught.. And they were found to have Interior Ministry ID's... These mercenaries are the real terrorists.. Otherwise, there might've been a few isolated incidents targeting some asians for the reasons mentioned above..

CasaMor

March 16th, 2011, 08:30 PM

B-Patriot

March 17th, 2011, 12:32 AM

DPQfkuzcH4c

LeKemono

March 17th, 2011, 04:50 PM

DPQfkuzcH4c

^^ I ♥ Bahrain Unite.... Thanxx 4 this song :)

LeKemono

March 17th, 2011, 04:57 PM

HM King Hamad tours Seef area http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/450119
http://www.bna.bh/portal/photos/450118/450904
http://www.bna.bh/portal/photos/450118/450907

Hassoun

March 17th, 2011, 05:25 PM

Hope everything goes well for Bahrain and the Bahraini people.

LeKemono

March 18th, 2011, 12:24 AM

Hope everything goes well for Bahrain and the Bahraini people.
yeah, everything is fine here... and Bahrain is geting better Finally!!

redbaron_012

March 18th, 2011, 12:50 PM

With the UN finally setting no fly zone on Libya...and whatever that develops into by tomorrow, brings hope that all these countries will see democracy as a way of life soon......? The people are what a country is about, not an autocratic ruler.....

Pakia

March 19th, 2011, 12:33 AM

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/3/18/1300481225665/pearl-007.jpg

:ohno:

Sad day for Bahraini people.

There is an article about this in the Gulf Daily News i believe..

However, who attacked is unclear.. And its doubtful its protesters... Unless the expat was a shady pakistani.. Cuz according to reports the terrorism started with Pakistani and Yemeni men recruited by the ministry of interior to vandalize, and terrorize...

Many were caught.. And they were found to have Interior Ministry ID's... These mercenaries are the real terrorists.. Otherwise, there might've been a few isolated incidents targeting some asians for the reasons mentioned above..

They're hired help. How can one blame other nationals, who are doing what they were hired to do unfortunately. Its the big King who is Bahraini killing other Bahrainis, who should be blamed.

smussuw

March 19th, 2011, 12:39 AM

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Alrayyan

March 19th, 2011, 10:41 AM

^^ Holy $#!T !!! :eek:

Kutsuit

March 19th, 2011, 09:55 PM

Is it true the authorities demolished a mosque, earlier today?

CrazY

March 20th, 2011, 12:18 PM

Police "protecting" the public from terrorists. Focus after 2.00 minutes.

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And the Bahraini parliament member holding a sword, surrounded by his mob with swords and sticks.

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LeKemono

March 20th, 2011, 03:25 PM

Is it true the authorities demolished a mosque, earlier today?
in your dreams!!! No One In Bahrain can demolish a mosque or even a church in here, even if it was for sunni or shi3i or jews!!! :nuts:
check this link in arabic >> http://www.bna.bh/portal/news/450313

Kutsuit

March 20th, 2011, 05:53 PM

in your dreams!!! No One In Bahrain can demolish a mosque or even a church in here, even if it was for sunni or shi3i or jews!!! :nuts:
check this link in arabic >> http://www.bna.bh/portal/news/450313
In my dreams? XD

Hey look, I'm only asking if it's true or not, as I've heard it from a couple of people already.

Thanks for the link but I'm not sure how reliable it is. Bahrain lost a lot of credibility with their recent official statements, many of which turned out to be false.

No hard feelings, though. :)

Face81

March 21st, 2011, 11:34 AM

Protests in London too....

Hundreds of protesters march on London's Bahraini embassy demanding downfall of their government

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 1:40 PM on 20th March 2011
Hundreds of protesters gathered outside the Bahraini embassy in London today calling for the downfall of the Bahraini government.

Police estimated that up to 600 people took part in the demonstration demanding an end to the violence against protesters in Bahrain and chanting: 'The people want the downfall of the government.'

One of the organisers, Zaid Ali, 22, a British-born Iraqi from Wembley, London, said: 'We're supporting the peaceful protesters and we're supporting them because they're seeking democracy. They want their rights - one man, one vote.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/19/article-1367975-0B3A233000000578-974_634x397.jpg
Protesters had marched from the Bahrain embassy in London to the embassies of the USA and Saudi Arabia to voice their anger at human rights abuses in Bahrain and the strict rule of the Bahraini royal family

'We want the British government to put pressure on the Bahraini government to either give people their rights or run away and leave them alone.

'Let them set up their own government, let them vote for who they want in their own government. They don't want dictators any more and that's simply what this is.

'Bahraini people are marching for their country, they just want their rights. They are not religious extremists or anything like that.'

Mr Zaid called for the British Government to take action in curbing the violence in the strife-torn country.

'I think our government, being one of the best democracies in the world, should support those protesting,' he said.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/19/article-1367975-0B3A272900000578-763_634x393.jpg
Demo: A picture of the Bahraini King is burned outside the embassy in London

Mr Zaid, who studies computer science at Kings College London, said the demonstrators had travelled from across the UK to support the uprising in Bahrain.

He said: 'You have tens of thousands of people in Bahrain marching for this and you have people here today supporting this.

'These people have been supporting the same uprisings in Libya, Yemen, Tunisia and Egypt but today a lot of the protesters are Bahraini.

'We have been organising this for about a week, mainly using Facebook, Twitter and social networking sites.

'We've got a group online of about 12,000 people who have all helped set it up and we've been emailing MPs to try and get the dreadful stuff that's going on in Bahrain stopped.'

Chris Nineham, national organiser for Stop the War Coalition, said: 'We're hoping to put pressure on to the Bahraini government to show them that the Bahraini people in Britain and their many supporters, are utterly outraged and disgusted at their behaviour.

'The fact they are shooting unarmed civilians in the street and they have called in a foreign army to repress and attack their own people is completely unacceptable.

'We're also here to send a message to the British government, that it is a complete travesty that they are backing these dictators and makes an utter mockery of any notion that Britain stands in favour of liberation and democracy.'

Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367975/Bahrain-protests-Hundreds-march-London-demanding-downfall-government.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

Alrayyan

March 21st, 2011, 08:26 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/19/article-1367975-0B3A272900000578-763_634x393.jpg
:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

I dont think he really deserves this..... He is certainly not Gaddafi.

MrIraq

March 22nd, 2011, 08:58 AM

اخوان اسمعُ هاي الاغنية للبحرين .... كلنا مع البحرين ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w4P1dPbEHw&feature=channel_video_title

Face81

March 22nd, 2011, 01:41 PM

Another very interesting article......

West's outrage is tempered by alliances

March 22, 2011

To the relief of millions in Libya and millions more around the world, the West has unsheathed the sword against the resurgent forces of the loathsome Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.

Explaining America's decision, Barack Obama said: ''Left unchecked, we have every reason to believe that Gaddafi would commit atrocities against his people …

''The calls of the Libyan people for help would go unanswered. The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun. Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow …

http://images.smh.com.au/2011/03/21/2244317/art_2203hartcherillo-420x0.jpg

''Our focus has been clear: protecting innocent civilians within Libya, and holding the Gaddafi regime accountable.''

So who will protect innocent civilians against the dictators who are killing them in other Arab countries today - Bahrain, Yemen, Syria? Who will hold these regimes accountable?

In the tiny, prosperous island kingdom of Bahrain, with a population of 1.2 million, of whom half are expats, the people had been protesting peacefully in Pearl Square in the centre of the capital, Manama, inspired by the so-called Arab Spring uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt.

The graceful white arches of the modern monument in the square symbolised the pearl-diving industry which had been the region's main industry before the discovery of oil. The protesters were asking for basic political rights, without calling for the end of the Khalifah family's rule.

It was only when a night raid by police against sleeping demonstrators killed three of them on February 17 that the protesters' demands broadened to include the downfall of the monarchy.

The protest grew and persisted until an extraordinary crackdown last week. With the world's attention on Japan's calamity, the repression largely escaped notice But it was remarkable not only for its violence but for its breadth.

Two neighbouring monarchies, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, sent a combined total of 2000 soldiers and police into Bahrain in an ostentatious show of support for the regime.

The regime then set about clearing Pearl Square by force, killing more protesters in the process, arresting their leaders, and shocking many observers by staging a military takeover of the main hospital. A total of 11 protesters and four police officers have been killed, according to the opposition, and hundreds have been wounded. The health minister, half a dozen members of the king's council and a clutch of top judges have resigned in protest. In a petty postscript, the regime demolished the Pearl Square monument, a symbol of nationhood that had become a rallying point for the protesters.

The message that the Arab kingdoms sent through this authoritarian internationalism was unmistakeable: ''There will be no Arab Spring here, only an Arab Winter. We will not only repress you, our people, but we will extend our repression across borders to repress all the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula. We authoritarian monarchs will stand with each other against you.''

Authoritarians of the world, unite!

This confrontation has a sectarian dimension, too: the monarchies are all Sunni Muslim families, and they are all ruling over populations with Shiite majorities.

''We think what is happening in Bahrain is no different to what was happening in Libya,'' said Ibrahim Mattar, the leader of the biggest of the Shiite opposition parties, Wefaq. ''Bahrain is very small so the deaths are significant for a country where Bahrainis are only 600,000.''

Yet the West's reaction here has been a very different one, confined to the clucking of tongues and urgings to both sides to engage is peaceful dialogue.

Why the differing response? ''It's not rocket science,'' says the Lowy Institute's Middle East expert, Anthony Bubalo. ''The US Fifth Fleet is based there. It's a critical supporter of the West in the Persian Gulf.''

And then there are the regimes of Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Like Bahrain, these two are also US allies and friends. Both are important oil exporters. And both, like the Bahrainis and the US, are sworn enemies of Iran.

Australia has its own special interest in the UAE, in addition to a solid economic relationship. Although it has been announced, it's still a little-known fact that Australia has based its Middle East defence logistics in the UAE. Along with the hardware, Australia has about 500 defence personnel based permanently there.

So if the Saudis and the Emiratis have a concern about Bahrain, that means the US and Australia are obliged to take it seriously. Bubalo says: ''The absolute concern for the Saudis and the Emiratis is that they don't want a Lebanon on their doorstep.

''Their central concern is that a Hezbollah-type organisation'' - a political party and welfare organisation but also a sponsor of terrorism, operating in Lebanon but supported by Iran - ''could establish a foothold in Bahrain. Whether we see that as realistic or not, it's what they are afraid of.''

So there will be no Western military intervention into Bahrain. The king can do as he pleases, as far as the West is concerned. And so can the monarchs of Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

And then there's Yemen. The President of this poor Arab republic, Ali Abdullah Saleh, has ruled for 33 years. And though vast protest rallies persuaded him to announce that he'd retire in 2013, he's in no special hurry.

Last week he sent his snipers out to murder 41 people in a crowd of protesters. At least 45 civilians were killed and more than 200 injured. Claiming to be shocked, Saleh then declared a state of emergency.

What about Yemen? Will there be a Western intervention to protect the people of Yemen and hold the regime accountable?

''No, we won't be doing anything in Yemen because there's a significant al-Qaeda presence there. We're already having enough trouble building co-operation with the Yemeni government trying to address that,'' says Bubalo. Besides, the Saudis would oppose any Western adventurism in Yemen, part of their sphere of influence.

This double standard - aggressively intervening to protect innocent civilians in Libya, but staring at the ceiling and whistling as dictators murder their people in Bahrain and Yemen - is already apparent. ''If things keep getting worse in Yemen, where it's potentially a lot bloodier, then it's going to become increasingly uncomfortable for the West,'' Bubalo observes.

So the answer is that no one will protect the innocent civilians of Bahrain and Yemen. The West's words will indeed be hollow.

Hypocrisy? Yes. But also realism. As one of the eminent figures in Australian foreign policy, Owen Harries, puts it: ''The West seems committed to pursuing two incompatible ends in the Middle East.

''One is democracy, the other is stability. The West fluctuates between emphasis on one and then the other. Democracy, once it's in place, is a stabilising force. But the process of getting there is highly destabilising.''

The intervention in Libya is not a precedent. Pity the Arab peoples who expect it will be.

Peter Hartcher is international editor of The Sydney Morning Herald

Source (http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/wests-outrage-is-tempered-by-alliances-20110321-1c3pv.html)

Face81

March 22nd, 2011, 01:52 PM

Interesting stuff.....

UAE will not deploy to Libya 'because of west's Bahrain policy'
Kareem Shaheen and Ola Salem

Last Updated: Mar 22, 2011

ABU DHABI // The UAE is not deploying military forces to Libya because of disagreements with the west over Bahrain, the former commander of the Air Force said today.

Maj Gen Khaled al Bu-Ainnain said the disagreement stems from a conviction in the Gulf that Iran is interfering in Bahrain and instigating protesters. He added that Bahrain’s security is a priority for the Gulf and the UAE.

He said the UAE was initially planning to deploy two squadrons of Mirage and F-16 fighter jets to Libya. Instead, the UAE announced yesterday its contribution to Libya would be confined to humanitarian aid.

Only Qatar has pledged Arab warplanes to the coalition enforcing a no-fly zone in Libya. This is despite the fact that Arab support for the measure is crucial to the UN resolution authorising military action against the forces of Col Muammar Qaddafi’s regime.

Gen al Bu-Ainnain said the UAE may be willing to reconsider its position if the west’s stance on Bahrain changes.

Source (http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/uae-will-not-deploy-to-libya-because-of-wests-bahrain-policy)

UAE Said To Have Changed View On Libya Deployment Due To Bahrain

ABU DHABI (Zawya Dow Jones)--The United Arab Emirates was prepared to deploy 24 aircraft to help enforce a no-fly zone over Libya but decided not to participate in the allied effort because of U.S. and European policies towards Bahrain, the former commander-in-chief of the U.A.E. Air Force said Tuesday.

"The U.A.E. was willing, and there were preparations, to deploy a significant number of aircraft for the no-fly zone, but a reprioritization--specifically the European and U.S. positions on Bahrain--did not satisfy the Gulf states to this end," said Maj. General Khalid Al Buainnain. Speaking on the sidelines of an Abu Dhabi conference, he said the U.A.E. had been prepared to deploy two squadrons of 12 aircraft each to Libya.

Buainnain said the U.S. and Europe had failed to appreciate the extent of Iran's interference in the Gulf countries, and had misread the protests in Bahrain as a spill-over of calls for democratic change sweeping through the region.

"What's going on in Bahrain is much beyond our Western allies to understand it," he said. "It is a complete conspiracy of the Iranians in the region...The European and U.S. positions are unable to imagine the extent of Iranian intervention in Bahrain."

"Its a matter of political disagreement--not a matter of resources--between the Gulf states and the Europe and U.S.," Buainnain said.

On Sunday, Qatar became the first Arab nation to join international action against Libya's Col. Moammar Gadhafi, saying it was sending fighter jets to Libya to help enforce a recent U.N. resolution. There has been speculation that the U.A.E. would send military assistance as well, though late Monday the country said it is playing a purely humanitarian role in Libya by delivering aid supplies. The U.A.E.'s role is "strictly confined to the delivery of humanitarian assistance," according to a statement carried on the state news agency.

The U.A.E had taken a leading role in the calls for action in Libya, hosting a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council in Abu Dhabi on March 7 at which the six-member bloc of Gulf Arab nations urged the international community to enforce a no-fly zone.

Bahrain's Sunni ruling family has for more than a month battled protests led by its largely-Shiite opposition, leading King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa to declare a three-months state of emergency amid rising sectarian tensions on the Gulf island kingdom. Last week, Saudi Arabia and other GCC states including the U.A.E. sent security forces to Bahrain to help quell the ongoing protests. Soon after the Gulf troops arrived, Bahrain launched a violent crackdown on the antigovernment protesters, clearing them from the capital's financial district and the Pearl roundabout, imposing a curfew and banning all public gatherings.

On Monday, Bahrain's King Hamad said a foreign plot against his state had been foiled -- presumed to be a reference to Iran -- and thanked troops brought in from neighboring Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. to help keep security. Iran has condemned the arrival of foreign troops in Bahrain.

Buainnain said the U.A.E considered Bahrain's security "an extension" of its own security, sees it as a top priority. He also said Bahrain risked turning into a third center of Shiite extremism in the Arab world, in addition to the presence of Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthi group in Yemen.

His comments follow warnings by GCC Secretary General Abdel Rahman bin Hamad Al Attiyah Monday, at the same conference, that the Gulf states reject any foreign intervention in their affairs, including by Iran.

Buainnain, a former U.A.E. fighter pilot, retired in 2006. He is now president of the Dubai-based security think tank Inegma, or the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis.

-By Nour Malas, Dow Jones Newswires, +97150 2890223; nour.malas@dowjones.com

Copyright (c) 2011 Dow Jones & Co.

LeKemono

March 23rd, 2011, 12:10 AM

what can I say about this!!!! please every one see it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4YG7D3Mxlw&feature=player_embedded

B-Patriot

March 23rd, 2011, 12:32 AM

LoL, what a story... I dont think that's why the daughter of one of the victimes was crying on Al Kout TV..

Alrayyan

March 23rd, 2011, 03:43 PM

LoL, what a story... I dont think that's why the daughter of one of the victimes was crying on Al Kout TV..

Yes the story has a very big accusation... not sure how relevant it is.

The Morning Star

March 25th, 2011, 02:33 PM

:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

I dont think he really deserves this..... He is certainly not Gaddafi.

His family conspired against Iran with the British Empire. His families are separatists that took over Iranian territory in 1850. Just like how the British made Kuwait pop out from Iraq.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9186/persiangulfregion.jpg

smussuw

March 25th, 2011, 02:37 PM

^^ the map u posted shows how illogical what u said is :lol:

The Morning Star

March 25th, 2011, 02:41 PM

^^ the map u posted shows how illogical what u said is :lol:

The entire region is illogical. We all know the reasons for the borders being straight. They have been drawn with rulers in London. That's illogical. Fake countries with fake borders.

http://www.yourchildlearns.com/online-atlas/continent/images/middle-east.gif

CrazY

March 25th, 2011, 07:24 PM

Just like how the British made Kuwait pop out from Iraq.

Lol, the optimum of retardation. Would squiggly border lines made your happier?

Ramy H

March 25th, 2011, 07:36 PM

Lol, the optimum of retardation. Would squiggly border lines made your happier?

LOL

This actually made me tear a little from laughing!

The Morning Star

March 25th, 2011, 08:12 PM

Lol, the optimum of retardation. Would squiggly border lines made your happier?

Kuwait was created from Mesopotamia just to deny Iraq coastal areas, don't you agree?

CrazY

March 25th, 2011, 10:16 PM

Kuwait was a port town from the 1700s created by tribes from najid, persia, and iraq.. It was ruled by the sabah dynasty at the early 1800s and by that time Iraq was ruled by the Ottamans, Kuwaitis wanted to be self governed, therefore went to the British to be a protectorate be defend it's walls from the saudis tribes and Islamic brotherhood until 1961.. and by the way, all the border agreements where accepted by the Iraqis at that time. Don't you agree?

Please dont go off topic, this thread is about protests by the Bahraini people, and not borders and retarded maps by you.

BigDreamer

March 26th, 2011, 03:49 AM

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9186/persiangulfregion.jpg

Is Iran sticking its **** in ... oh my..
pornography isn't allowed on SSC

Alrayyan

March 26th, 2011, 10:56 AM

^^ :lol:

Mesch

March 27th, 2011, 10:03 PM

Is Iran sticking its **** in ... oh my..
pornography isn't allowed on SSC

lol, but idk i think it looks more like a nose. if you focus, you can also see the mouth.

Ramy H

March 28th, 2011, 03:49 AM

It looks like Crazy Frog is doing the naughty.
http://www.intelligentspeculator.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/crazy-frog.jpg

QWECXZ

March 28th, 2011, 06:37 AM

Lol, the optimum of retardation. Would squiggly border lines made your happier?

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
You missed the point. take another look at the map and you might see what he meant. hopefully.

is there still a curfew in manama?

Ramy H

March 28th, 2011, 06:00 PM

^^I believe the curfew and the statement that no one is allowed to protest are still technically in effect, but are being ignored by the protesters.

Any word on the mediation talks through Kuwait?

Beiruti

March 28th, 2011, 09:56 PM

How are Bahraini's reacting to the destruction of the monument? I am surprised not to see much of an uproar - was it not of much historical/cultural significance?

B-Patriot

March 29th, 2011, 08:29 AM

The curfew is being shortened every few days, and its only in one part of manama.. Now its from 11pm to 4am.. Although the roads andr life in general in the evening are still quite dead...

Talk about protesting has been exaggerated i believe.. Some images and videos that were shown in the first few days after the King declared the State of National Security or whatever were mostly from mosques or around mosques, so they weren't exactly protesting and defying the state of 'emergency'....

The roundabout monument is just symbolic.. I think it was erected in the early 80's when bahrain hosted one of the GCC summits, and it has six legs representing the six GCC countries with a Pearl on top...

It became a symbol for Bahrain, and had some sentimental value, u see it almost everyday, etc... I think it appears in a lot of postcards.. It was even put on the coin version of the 500 fils coin introduced around 2004.. Its been officially withdrawn from the market and circulation, with an order, a few days after the demolishment of the monument, as some people were going to banks trying to get change and those coins to keep for sentimental value.. Cuz their circulation was a bit low, and i think they were being gradually removed from the market..

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-34aNfc2jhF0/TYQPsy15afI/AAAAAAAAANY/FfjmxFzwy0w/s320/500%2Bfils%2Bcoin.jpg

Beiruti

March 30th, 2011, 02:13 AM

^^ Interesting....I'm really shocked that a country would destroy one of its own historical monuments.

Sdare

March 31st, 2011, 02:37 AM

oh my they demolished that thing? it was ugly anyway

BigDreamer

March 31st, 2011, 02:35 PM

^^ :lol: yes, but I that's not the reason why they demolished it

Fallen76

April 21st, 2011, 11:30 AM

Reason or no reason, its gone finished and hopefully all the disturbing side associated with it.

DaZed and DiZzy

April 30th, 2011, 10:25 PM

Wild el Bahrain

May 3rd, 2011, 01:35 PM

Bahrain kind of moved to the sublight
I hope Bahrain can move to political solution to this conflict
I do not like anything that could turn to sectarian rife
to me we are all muslims and it is up to allah not us to judge bad deeds
I hope that king will get what he deserves
it is not a wise thing
making people feel they are not citizens in their own country
treat the people well and they will love you
The king has been treating them soo well for as long as he ruled my friend,this was an evil veiled ku de ta. Even if the king covered the roads with rose petals they would still find a way to complain,and use excuses to be violent.The king has shown that he doesn't favor one sect over the other and what did they do,they went above and beyond to exploit that freedom.take the mawatem for example that have been erected to make money without permission.Hamada town was given permission for 2 ended up with more than 400.it must also be noted that these mawatems were in housing projects for the needy.So the abusers would cry for homes because they are needy,then when they get them,they use gem this way.this is just one way of how things were going in bahrain and the govt.completely turning a blind eye in their favor.

B-Patriot

May 3rd, 2011, 04:47 PM

Lol... I wonder whats your source for your matam stories... Hamad town? 400?

You shouldn't beleive everything u read on BBM.. lol..

Wild el Bahrain

May 3rd, 2011, 05:33 PM

Lol... I wonder whats your source for your matam stories... Hamad town? 400?

You shouldn't beleive everything u read on BBM.. lol..
It's actually 50 in Hamada town but 400 over Bahrain that aren't legit.

DaZed and DiZzy

May 3rd, 2011, 10:58 PM

no what i heard was that there was mild/ real 3nseria
sunnis would get all the good jobs and money while shites would not get them

B-Patriot

May 4th, 2011, 09:22 AM

A lot of people seem to think that, but i personally dont beleive that's true...

Generally speaking, when it comes to most workplaces and institutions, there is no such descrimination... Maybe 20 years ago? But not anymore today.. Exaggerations..

However, if you looked at some of the top-level posts.. Ministers and such.. Then one might make the argument descrimination does exist, or that one sect is under-represented...

I Know

May 4th, 2011, 12:12 PM

Up to 50 doctors and nurses who treated anti-government protesters injured during the recent demonstrations in Bahrain were charged yesterday with acts against the state.

In an escalation of the government crackdown on the protests, the medical staff were accused of "promoting efforts to bring down the government" and "harming the public by spreading false news".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/bahrain-charges-50-medical-staff-with-antistate-conspiracy-2278518.html

I Know

May 4th, 2011, 03:44 PM

By Rosamund de Sybel

May 2011
Bahrain's economy faces a difficult period as it tries to recover from the political unrest that has rocked the country. But there are glimmers of hope

On Friday evening in Bahrain's restaurant district, Adliya, scores of people spill out from crowded cafés onto roads packed with cars unable to find spaces to park. Stability has returned to Bahrain, but the unrest that swept through the country in February and March and the ensuing crackdown on anti-government protesters and opposition figures has come at a hefty price.

Bahrain's economy, which grew at 4.5 per cent last year, is expected to suffer a significant blow in 2011, as weeks of demonstrations, the imposition of martial law and the arrival of troops from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, take their toll.

Though the government is still plumping for a relatively healthy economic growth this year, economists are more circumspect.

"I think the economy is likely to be flat at best this year," Simon Williams, HSBC's chief economist for the Middle East tells The Gulf.

Barclays Capital last month slashed its growth outlook for Bahrain to 1.4 per cent, down from 4.3 per cent, while Bank of America Merrill Lynch expects the economy to deflate 2.2 per cent in real terms, before returning a 2.9 per cent growth in 2012.

Retail and hospitality businesses have been particularly hard hit, as tourists and executives have stayed away. The cancellation of the opening Formula One Grand Prix in March as well as a number of high profile conferences have hurt local businesses. Bahrain's traditional economic drivers, financial services and construction - which were only slowly emerging from the rubble of the financial crisis - are also suffering.

full article - http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20110503104020/What_next_for_Bahrain

Ras Siyan

May 13th, 2011, 08:54 AM

Wild el Bahrain

May 13th, 2011, 06:40 PM

Was watching on Al Jazeera English that a heavy crackdown is under way in Bahrain currently...With even girls' schools being targeted and teenage girls interrogated and even tortured. How is it currently there?

Any plans for some sort of dialogue? Or the ruling family plans to crush the whole thing?

Kheir inshallah...
Al jazeera as usual making a meal of anything that has to do with Bahrain. just to let you know it was the ruling family that wanted dialogue and the opposition and many thugs who attached themselves to it were stalling and putting more and more conditions. Bahrain is much better now when it comes to safety,let's hope we don't go through that again and that major dialogue starts later this year.

BigDreamer

May 15th, 2011, 04:18 AM

Ras Siyan

May 15th, 2011, 08:06 AM

Al jazeera as usual making a meal of anything that has to do with Bahrain. just to let you know it was the ruling family that wanted dialogue and the opposition and many thugs who attached themselves to it were stalling and putting more and more conditions. Bahrain is much better now when it comes to safety,let's hope we don't go through that again and that major dialogue starts later this year.

At what cost? Are you refuting these allegations by Al Jazeera? Are u saying it's all false? What's the point of safety if even teenage girls are tortured in their schools?

What about te allegations of students in London who saw their scholarships cancelled for protesting? What about the thousands fired of their jobs? The doctors and nurses imprisoned? The Shia mosques destroyed?

Bahrain: From hospital to prison (http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/05/201151285040679763.html)

Bahrain cracks down on protesting footballers (http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/04/2011413132952273777.html)

BAHRAIN: Activist describes electroshock, torture by government forces (http://http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/05/bahrain-human-rights-activist-details-torture-abuses-by-government-forces.html)

Bahrain targets Shia religious sites (http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2011/05/2011513112016389348.html)

^^ I'm shocked! This bad...I'm a Sunni, but I fail to understand how a mosque can be destroyed, just because its a Shia mosque. Aren't we all Muslims? THis is getting outta hand, and with Saudi Arabia involved, didn't expect any kheir

Mesch

May 17th, 2011, 06:47 AM

lol, stop abusing the word kheir.

Ras Siyan

May 17th, 2011, 09:09 AM

lol, stop abusing the word kheir.

:lol: It's a Djiboutian thing :lol:

But is that the only thing you felt like commenting? :nuts:

May 20th, 2011, 03:24 PM

I am in Bahrain now i dont see any protest

B-Patriot

May 20th, 2011, 07:46 PM

Who said there was a protest at this point in time? :)

The state of National Safety forbids gatherings and protests.. Although some people had a short protest it think, mainly sunnis in the area of Busaiteen.. The protest and an attack on 2 shiite owned supermarkets were a 'response' to a guy, presumably shiite, who ran over 9 police men with his car as an act of revenge for his brother getting shot during yet another protest or some kind of riot..

Ras Siyan

May 25th, 2011, 08:24 AM

Guys I know there are no protests at this point. I'm asking about the crackdown under way in Bahrain right now.

Nimaa

June 5th, 2011, 12:05 PM

The Bahraini govt has fired all Shias who work at the race track
lol
I expected these kinds of amateurish moves from a tiny sheikhdom like Bahrain but never from KSA. These kinds of moves only push the shias into a corner. What happens next is predictable. Hezbollah and the mullahs in Iran can't believe their damn luck.

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This vid is also interesting
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iraqishi3i

June 5th, 2011, 01:26 PM

^^ and yet some people still support this joke of a monarchy , a simple way to put it is that they are ignorant dogs.

B-Patriot

June 5th, 2011, 02:23 PM

smussuw

June 5th, 2011, 04:26 PM

^^ and yet some people still support this joke of a monarchy , a simple way to put it is that they are ignorant dogs.and others support a joke called Iran :runaway:

Nimaa

June 5th, 2011, 11:44 PM

and what exactly is that supposed to mean?

It means that Bahrain is a country ruled by a few people who also happen to have very little experience in dealing with such events. KSA on the other hand has a bit more experience.

That's what it means.

Your sunni brothers all over the arab world like to say that Iran is interfering in Bahrain and that's why we have to crush the shias blah blah... but we all know the truth. Bahrainis are loyal to their country. After these events, the shias will become amenable to outside pressure however. When your own country is importing Pakistanis OPENLY and giving them more rights than you, than this is expected.

Bahrain is gonna become the next Lebanon IMO and it's all the doing of the Khalifa family and the GCC. If Shias decide to take up arms and invite Hezbollah, do you think the mullahs in Tehran will say no??? I wasn't alive when shi t hit the fan in Lebanon but I have read about the events. I've also read about the formation of Hezbollah and how a bunch of disgruntled teenage shia began an organization that would later change the landscape of the country. All it took was a bag of cash from Iran and a gang of angry shias. Everything else fell into place later.

Nimaa

June 5th, 2011, 11:50 PM

^^ and yet some people still support this joke of a monarchy , a simple way to put it is that they are ignorant dogs.

not ignorant.
Why should the sunnis care?
Afterall the shias are "kafirs" and they are all "dogs of Iran." How dare they ask for their rights.

Mesch

June 6th, 2011, 01:17 AM

lolwut?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhbtezK1nv1qddsoy.gif

B-Patriot

June 6th, 2011, 09:40 AM

It means that Bahrain is a country ruled by a few people who also happen to have very little experience in dealing with such events. KSA on the other hand has a bit more experience.

That's what it means.

Your sunni brothers all over the arab world like to say that Iran is interfering in Bahrain and that's why we have to crush the shias blah blah... but we all know the truth. Bahrainis are loyal to their country. After these events, the shias will become amenable to outside pressure however. When your own country is importing Pakistanis OPENLY and giving them more rights than you, than this is expected.

Bahrain is gonna become the next Lebanon IMO and it's all the doing of the Khalifa family and the GCC. If Shias decide to take up arms and invite Hezbollah, do you think the mullahs in Tehran will say no??? I wasn't alive when shi t hit the fan in Lebanon but I have read about the events. I've also read about the formation of Hezbollah and how a bunch of disgruntled teenage shia began an organization that would later change the landscape of the country. All it took was a bag of cash from Iran and a gang of angry shias. Everything else fell into place later.

Generalizations, assumptions, theories, speculation...

How is Bahrain ruled by a few ppl? How does that differ from Saudi and the rest of the GCC..?

This 'few ppl' statement makes no sense.. And where did u get the little experience compared to saudi from? If anything, they have way more experience here...

Ras Siyan

June 7th, 2011, 09:28 AM

Your sunni brothers all over the arab world like to say that Iran is interfering in Bahrain and that's why we have to crush the shias blah blah... but we all know the truth. Bahrainis are loyal to their country. After these events, the shias will become amenable to outside pressure however. When your own country is importing Pakistanis OPENLY and giving them more rights than you, than this is expected.

Don't generalize, the Sunnis all over the world do not support this madness, I'm a Sunni myself and I'm under shock (discrimination, destruction of mosques ect...). But I noticed a certain hypocrisy from the Gulf people, they seem to have a certain hate for the Shias (that I dont understand) and they just keep saying Iran is behind this while on the other hand Pakistanis and citizens from other Sunni nations are brought over and given citizenship. As u mentioned Bahrainis are proud and loyal to their country, the whole Iranian argument is simply bullshit

Look at this page, look at how no one wants to talk about the ongoing repression against the Shias there yet how everyone jumps to comment when u mentioned the ruling family or KSA.
Something is deeply wrong in the Gulf. Its like they're planting the seeds of hatred now, and of course sooner or later these plants will grow :ohno:

I wish Bahrain all the best though

Alrayyan

June 7th, 2011, 09:00 PM

^^ :lol:

Mesch

June 8th, 2011, 12:18 AM

^^ tshouf? :laugh:

iraqishi3i

June 8th, 2011, 08:42 PM

and others support a joke called Iran :runaway:

This is something I dont understand , When Iran criticizes Bahrain (Just like Iraq did) for mistreating people , everyone blames Iran for "interfering" now I really don't want to start a polical argument but Iraq has been the HUGE victim of interference from all its neighbouring countries yet noone seems to comment about that . The real fact whether you choose to belive it or not I dont care is that the gulf dont want an Increase in Shia countries , Iran and Iraq are currently both shia countries and the gulf dont want bahrain to become a shia country so instead of helping the poor bahraini shias what do KSA and other khaleeji countries do ? oh add fuel to the fire and send in more troops which kill more innocent people , burn and destroy mosques and qurans... If thats not a joke then I dont know what is

smussuw

June 8th, 2011, 10:54 PM

Good_Guy

June 9th, 2011, 12:04 AM

This is something I dont understand , When Iran criticizes Bahrain (Just like Iraq did) for mistreating people , everyone blames Iran for "interfering" now I really don't want to start a polical argument but Iraq has been the HUGE victim of interference from all its neighbouring countries yet noone seems to comment about that . The real fact whether you choose to belive it or not I dont care is that the gulf dont want an Increase in Shia countries , Iran and Iraq are currently both shia countries and the gulf dont want bahrain to become a shia country so instead of helping the poor bahraini shias what do KSA and other khaleeji countries do ? oh add fuel to the fire and send in more troops which kill more innocent people , burn and destroy mosques and qurans... If thats not a joke then I dont know what is

I'll comment on iran part iran doesn't have the right to criticize any country for mistreating human, because what they do to the Iranian people and all of us know what is Iran doing to the opposition

and please dont talk about bahraini shia as if they are living in hell they are controlling almost every thing in bahrain

and F.Y.I there are poor sunny families in bahrain

Nimaa

June 9th, 2011, 06:53 AM

^^ Why didn't Iran criticizes Syria? :happy:

Iran doesn't have the right to criticize anyone because their human rights record is hundred times worse than any country in the region.

Am not saying that what Bahrain did was right, though many stuff being said are blown out of proportion. I do think that if Shia were treated fairly by the Bahraini government it wouldn't have turned this bad.

that's really funny arab

1) In Iran we had our own uprising as you know but in that entire episode (which lasted around a year), only 30-90 ppl died (depending on who you want to believe).
this is in a country of 70+ million

In syria more than 1000 have died
In Bahrain at least 36 are dead and 60 missing (pop'n less than a million)
In Libya thousands are dead
In Egypt tanks and machine guns were all over the city and at least 846 died
In Yemen at least a 1000 are dead
Tunisia: 230+ dead (10 mil pop'n)
etc...

2) The worse country when it comes to women's rights is Saudi Arabia, an arab country and a country that is the MAIN instigator of the Bahrain conflicts

3) Turkey, a sunni country, is the worse country when it comes to the rights of journalists (has the highest number of prisoned journalists in the world).

4) Iran is a half azzed democracy at the very least while every arab country is ruled by one family. Heck, KSA is named after one man, how sad.

In Iran I might not have much say when it comes to the president but at least I can chose my parliament members, mayors etc...

5) In KSA shias aren't even considered muslim while in Iran sunnis can pray in any mosque they chose to.

6) Iran has the largest Jewish pop'n in the ME after Israel while in Arab countries they don't even exist. We have a Jewish MP and a couple of Christian MPs in our parliament.

7) Wine and pork are legal for Christians and Jews. There are also tens of synogogues and churches all over Tehran and other Iranian cities. Can we say the same about Sandi Arabia?

You might wanna check your facts before talking smack arab

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 08:23 AM

I'll comment on iran part iran doesn't have the right to criticize any country for mistreating human, because what they do to the Iranian people and all of us know what is Iran doing to the opposition

and please dont talk about bahraini shia as if they are living in hell they are controlling almost every thing in bahrain

and F.Y.I there are poor sunny families in bahrain

Well unless you are iranian you cant decide that because you know how the media is when it comes to Iran and ohh another guy who is saying "yeahh the shia in bahrain arent treated that bad , sunnis are getting hurt too" bro when over 30 shias have been killed and sooo many more missing then something is wrong ! The goverment are just power greedy dogs who dont care about Bahrain and if you say "no they just hate shia" well the majority of bahrain are shia so he must not like the majority of bahrain.

Good_Guy

June 9th, 2011, 04:57 PM

Well unless you are iranian you cant decide that because you know how the media is when it comes to Iran and ohh another guy who is saying "yeahh the shia in bahrain arent treated that bad , sunnis are getting hurt too" bro when over 30 shias have been killed and sooo many more missing then something is wrong ! The goverment are just power greedy dogs who dont care about Bahrain and if you say "no they just hate shia" well the majority of bahrain are shia so he must not like the majority of bahrain.

First im not iranian im bahraini and i know what really happened here so i dont need to see the media to know what was going on.
Second who said HM king hamad hate shia if he does you wouldn't see any shia in high positions and if you dont know many people around the king are shia and as i posted before most businessmen in bahrain are shia and the government give them many facilities to help them in there business.
Lets come to the media and the many lies they spread like a curse around the world one lie is bahraini government is killing more than 1000 shia near al salmania hospital and this is one of many lies they came up with.

i forgot one thing if the king hate them he wouldn't donate that much of rice and meat to their "Ma'atams" in Ashora. Name me one president or king in the gulf do what our king do you will not find!!!!!!!

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 05:28 PM

First im not iranian im bahraini and i know what really happened here so i dont need to see the media to know what was going on.
Second who said HM king hamad hate shia if he does you wouldn't see any shia in high positions and if you dont know many people around the king are shia and as i posted before most businessmen in bahrain are shia and the government give them many facilities to help them in there business.
Lets come to the media and the many lies they spread like a curse around the world one lie is bahraini government is killing more than 1000 shia near al salmania hospital and this is one of many lies they came up with.

i forgot one thing if the king hate them he wouldn't donate that much of rice and meat to their "Ma'atams" in Ashora. Name me one president or king in the gulf do what our king do you will not find!!!!!!!

ohh so hamad likes shias does he ? yeahh that has to be true because he loves them so much tht he ordered his troops to destroy shia mosques and this isnt media lies because everyone has seen the pictures and videos lol and yes most business men will be shia because MOST OF THE POPULATION ARE SHIA , if you have a larger population of someone then its more likey for businessmen to be shia ! and ok so why do he seek many sunnis to give them visa to live in bahrain to balance out shia and sunni ? and ok you want presidents in the gulf who help ma'atams how about Iraq's and Irans lol ? your points are merely opinion of someone who likes this atrocity called the bahrainy monarchy whilst i speak of fact and defend any person under oppression such as the shias in bahrain.

Alrayyan

June 9th, 2011, 06:25 PM

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 06:36 PM

^^ Mosques/shrines that have been built without any legal documents and on government lands.

Iraq and Iran are not part of the gulf (Arabian gulf cooperation council) and they are not monarchs either.

ohh ok so say they havent been built "with a legal document" does that mean its ok to destroy the mosques ? a place of worship ? really , lol thats your counterargument ? that ebcause it didnt have any legal documents then its fine to burn and destroy it and use a knife to rip anything to do with shias even if outside the mosque ? and I thought he meant the persian gulf altoghether and he did say presidents aswell ...

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 06:38 PM

Im actually really surprised that there is a significant number who support the bahrainy monarchy ! supporting a regime where it is fine to open fire using live bullets at a protesting crowd ? oh well i guess it is just the supporters of the monarchy on this forum whilst their shia brothers fight for simple human rights in bahrain...

smussuw

June 9th, 2011, 06:55 PM

^^ and I am surprised that u support Iran :cheers:

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 07:00 PM

^^ iam only a supporter of the iraqi goverment but i can see right from wrong , yes the iranian goverment has flaw but these have been blown way out of proportion and they are only considered a threat because tehy are probably the only country that doesnt suck up to america like the other gulf states (sorry but this is fact) secondly i dissaprove of the bahraini monrachy because its a vile monarchy which was not chosen by the people who are majority SHIA. and if you remember in 1979 the iranian revolution didnt start by a few members , millions turned out as they wanted khomeini to lead the country , now that sounds to me like they wanted him to and his successors to lead iran and they wanted Iran to be an islamic country

B-Patriot

June 9th, 2011, 07:38 PM

Alrayyan

June 9th, 2011, 09:09 PM

ohh ok so say they havent been built "with a legal document" does that mean its ok to destroy the mosques ? a place of worship ? really , lol thats your counterargument ? that ebcause it didnt have any legal documents then its fine to burn and destroy it and use a knife to rip anything to do with shias even if outside the mosque ? and I thought he meant the persian gulf altoghether and he did say presidents aswell ...

WELL, are they destroying EVERYTHING relating to the Baharnas in Bahrain? NO only the ones built on GOVERNMENT LANDs without permission, they "violated" the law/guidelines and the government has been VERY kind to them allowing them to do things as they will and how do they repay them ? betrayal and ruining the nations image.

The UAE ruler is a President and a monarchy system and its part of the Arabian Gulf Cooperation Council ;)

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 09:27 PM

WELL, are they destroying EVERYTHING relating to the Baharnas in Bahrain? NO only the ones built on GOVERNMENT LANDs without permission, they "violated" the law/guidelines and the government has been VERY kind to them allowing them to do things as they will and how do they repay them ? betrayal and ruining the nations image.

The UAE ruler is a President and a monarchy system and its part of the Arabian Gulf Cooperation Council ;)

no you aren't understanding the concept of my argument , it is a MOSQUE , a place where you worship Allah ! wherever it is built it can under no circumstances be destroyed !!! its a MOSQUE !!! Bro i really cant explain it to you further anymore and if it was a sunni mosque who according to you might not have "legal documents" do you think the goverment would have destroyed it lol ? NO! the baraini goverment cant call themselves muslim because seriousley anyone who destroys a mosque and prevetns others from worshipping Allah shouldn't be called a muslim. also what about the burnt qurans that were found after the mosques were destroyed ? do shias in bahrain need legal documents to own a quran ?

Alrayyan

June 9th, 2011, 09:42 PM

^^ I cant speak about what the Shia's have done to themselves and its consequences. Besides its about time the Zoroastrian temples and shrines are removed.

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 10:01 PM

^^ I cant speak about what the Shia's have done to themselves and its consequences. Besides its about time the Zoroastrian temples and shrines are removed.

no please do tell what have we done to ourselves that we dont deserve human rights ? and no because they werent "Zoroastrian temples and shrines" they were shia mosques ! you are supporting the destruction of mosques and places where people worship Allah :ohno: . Let me guess just another sunni who hates us shia for being right and think that we dont deserve any human rights.typical.

smussuw

June 9th, 2011, 10:04 PM

^^ for being right? so self centered ! :nuts:

iraqishi3i

June 9th, 2011, 10:15 PM

i'm sorry but in relation to basic human rights iam right , everyone deserves them whether your sunni , shia , christian or anything yet Alrayyan doesnt seem to think so as apparantly we "have done something to ourselves" and this is the fate we deserve

nomarandlee

June 9th, 2011, 10:26 PM

^^ I cant speak about what the Shia's have done to themselves and its consequences. Besides its about time the Zoroastrian temples and shrines are removed.

Repulsive. Even if they had been Zoroastrian what gives you or other pompous air heads the right to destroy heritage? If Muslims in Bahrain don't respect and honor Zoroastrian heritage or artifacts why in the heck should others elsewhere respect Muslim heritage or artifices? And then Muslims the likes of you want to shout out how respectful Islam of others faiths. Maybe, maybe not, but it sure isn't your kind of Islam.

Mesch

June 9th, 2011, 11:05 PM

@Nimaa, please don't compare the status of Shiites in the KSA to that of Sunnis in Iran. You'll fail. :)

PS. Both are under a level of oppression but it's ludicrous to even think that Sunnis are better treated in Iran than Shiites in SA.

Alrayyan

June 9th, 2011, 11:26 PM

no please do tell what have we done to ourselves that we dont deserve human rights ? and no because they werent "Zoroastrian temples and shrines" they were shia mosques ! you are supporting the destruction of mosques and places where people worship Allah :ohno: . Let me guess just another sunni who hates us shia for being right and think that we dont deserve any human rights.typical.

You are mixing different topics, don't act as if you dont know what i am talking about, Places where terrorists plot their plans for bringing down Bahrain.

For example:

Alwa6ia, Al3adliya
http://img102.herosh.com/2011/04/11/899220126.jpg
http://img105.herosh.com/2011/04/11/392221425.jpg
http://img104.herosh.com/2011/04/11/730702393.jpg

Post demolition (May)
http://img101.herosh.com/2011/04/11/348251259.jpg
http://img101.herosh.com/2011/04/11/466105771.jpg
http://img102.herosh.com/2011/04/11/227574459.jpg

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Before:
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7669/1234kd.jpg

After:
http://img103.herosh.com/2011/04/11/114456881.jpg

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Also:

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206655_124406670970858_121087571302768_180463_2840975_n.jpg

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And:

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/217564_167776986614528_161667683892125_417063_4100254_n.jpg
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Poof:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/216835_201861813187024_182717725101433_546228_2422412_n.jpg
http://www.shia-today.com/media/pics/1303132077.jpg

They didnt complete their job on this one:
http://sfiles.d1g.com/photos/17/81/4278117_max.jpg
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To be removed:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/216387_149955151736502_144547425610608_313999_6104066_n.jpg

Gone:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9490/940517.jpg

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One more:
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208398_177202298998862_170666489652443_434425_4415683_n.jpg

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And Another:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5116/48e1b408133925afc1120e2.jpg[/URL]

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2 portacabin (temporary):
http://files.mothhelah.com/img/e1g94207.jpg
http://14noor.com/forum/uploads_members/3290/3290_2011-03-30_197847_114051825340570_100002072597396_124283_5206456_n.jpg
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Labeek Ya7seen (said to be the largest in the world), Not anymore..:
http://www4.0zz0.com/2011/04/15/04/866582028.jpg
http://www9.0zz0.com/2011/04/15/04/386983116.jpg
http://www2.0zz0.com/2011/04/15/04/957347091.jpg
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Why am i not surprised ? they keep coming !
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/229011_199109963466651_136556503055331_580521_1650239_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230165_199109910133323_136556503055331_580518_6892322_n.jpg
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They isolated themselves over the years by building unauthorized and unnecessary gates for their neighborhoods:

https://feb14bh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/karranah_011.jpg
https://feb14bh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/karranah_004.jpg
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AND NOW FOR THE GRAND FINALE

THE PEARL R/A turned Into a traffic signal

http://www.rohama.org/files/ar/news/2011/3/19/17463_596.jpg
http://www.b4bh.com/up//uploads/images/domain-bf716a0ac2.jpg

:banana: Beautiful, Long Live prosperous KINGDOM of Bahrain & the Arabian Gulf Cooperation Council. :banana:

iraqishi3i

June 10th, 2011, 12:20 AM

... i am actually speechless :O you are a monster ! you claim every shia mosque is a places "where terrorists plot plans" (which is ironic coming from a shia hating sunni) and then you post picture about shia mosques being destroyed and boast about it :O you are heartless these are masjids and pleaces WHERE PEOPLE WORSHIP ALLAH and yet monsters like you seek to pervent them because they are shia , mabye this is why some bahrainy minds are so polluted like yours and the goverment , they are still stuck 1400 years ago along with the rest of the gulf in their constant hate for shias , you are actually unbelievable and for any abit of respect i had for you before this is now gone ...

Nimaa

June 10th, 2011, 12:57 AM

that's really funny arab

1) In Iran we had our own uprising as you know but in that entire episode (which lasted around a year), only 30-90 ppl died (depending on who you want to believe).
this is in a country of 70+ million

In syria more than 1000 have died
In Bahrain at least 36 are dead and 60 missing (pop'n less than a million)
In Libya thousands are dead
In Egypt tanks and machine guns were all over the city and at least 846 died
In Yemen at least a 1000 are dead
Tunisia: 230+ dead (10 mil pop'n)
etc...

2) The worse country when it comes to women's rights is Saudi Arabia, an arab country and a country that is the MAIN instigator of the Bahrain conflicts

3) Turkey, a sunni country, is the worse country when it comes to the rights of journalists (has the highest number of prisoned journalists in the world).

4) Iran is a half azzed democracy at the very least while every arab country is ruled by one family. Heck, KSA is named after one man, how sad.

In Iran I might not have much say when it comes to the president but at least I can chose my parliament members, mayors etc...

5) In KSA shias aren't even considered muslim while in Iran sunnis can pray in any mosque they chose to.

6) Iran has the largest Jewish pop'n in the ME after Israel while in Arab countries they don't even exist. We have a Jewish MP and a couple of Christian MPs in our parliament.

7) Wine and pork are legal for Christians and Jews. There are also tens of synogogues and churches all over Tehran and other Iranian cities. Can we say the same about Sandi Arabia?

You might wanna check your facts before talking smack arab
why haven't I got an answer to this post yet?

To recap, Iran was said to have the worst human rights record in the region by a certain "smussuw" which in light of the above facts it's clearly not the case. smussuw, care to show your taliban face mate? Why are you running?

smussuw

June 10th, 2011, 05:13 AM

why haven't I got an answer to this post yet?

To recap, Iran was said to have the worst human rights record in the region by a certain "smussuw" which in light of the above facts it's clearly not the case. smussuw, care to show your taliban face mate? Why are you running?I thought that ur examples are not worth replying to. I don't think throwing examples of how Iran is a democratic 1st world country prove anything. I could fill the thread with examples to prove otherwise. Beside, Iran supported the Syrian regime in killing 1300 civilians ....

My taliban face? Stop embarrassing urself :laugh:

Nimaa

June 10th, 2011, 05:45 AM

I thought that ur examples are not worth replying to. I don't think throwing examples of how Iran is a democratic 1st world country prove anything. I could fill the thread with examples to prove otherwise. Beside, Iran supported the Syrian regime in killing 1300 civilians ....

My taliban face? Stop embarrassing urself :laugh:
Abdul, where did you learn English? Get a refund.

What I said:

"Iran is a half azzed democracy at the very least while every arab country is ruled by one family. Heck, KSA is named after one man, how sad."

What you picked up from that sentence:

"I don't think throwing examples of how Iran is a democratic 1st world country prove anything."

So Abdul, what's it gonna be. Are you gonna man up and admit that you're a pvssy or what? You said Iran has the worst human rights record in the region. I gave you the facts and they show that in every category, there is at least one country with a worst record than Iran. You've been ignoring me for a day and now you resort to outright lies.

He're my original post. I'm gonna put it up again so you can have another crack at it. Grab a dictionary this time Abdul.

1) In Iran we had our own uprising as you know but in that entire episode (which lasted around a year), only 30-90 ppl died (depending on who you want to believe).
this is in a country of 70+ million

In syria more than 1000 have died
In Bahrain at least 36 are dead and 60 missing (pop'n less than a million)
In Libya thousands are dead
In Egypt tanks and machine guns were all over the city and at least 846 died
In Yemen at least a 1000 are dead
Tunisia: 230+ dead (10 mil pop'n)
etc...

2) The worse country when it comes to women's rights is Saudi Arabia, an arab country and a country that is the MAIN instigator of the Bahrain conflicts

3) Turkey, a sunni country, is the worse country when it comes to the rights of journalists (has the highest number of prisoned journalists in the world).

4) Iran is a half azzed democracy at the very least while every arab country is ruled by one family. Heck, KSA is named after one man, how sad.

In Iran I might not have much say when it comes to the president but at least I can chose my parliament members, mayors etc...

5) In KSA shias aren't even considered muslim while in Iran sunnis can pray in any mosque they chose to.

6) Iran has the largest Jewish pop'n in the ME after Israel while in Arab countries they don't even exist. We have a Jewish MP and a couple of Christian MPs in our parliament.

7) Wine and pork are legal for Christians and Jews. There are also tens of synogogues and churches all over Tehran and other Iranian cities. Can we say the same about Sandi Arabia?

You might wanna check your facts before talking smack arab

smussuw

June 10th, 2011, 08:14 AM

No, I still think is the worst ...

Alrayyan

June 10th, 2011, 10:03 AM

1) In Iran we had our own uprising as you know but in that entire episode (which lasted around a year), only 30-90 ppl died (depending on who you want to believe).
this is in a country of 70+ million

In syria more than 1000 have died
In Bahrain at least 36 are dead and 60 missing (pop'n less than a million)
In Libya thousands are dead
In Egypt tanks and machine guns were all over the city and at least 846 died
In Yemen at least a 1000 are dead
Tunisia: 230+ dead (10 mil pop'n)
etc...

2) The worse country when it comes to women's rights is Saudi Arabia, an arab country and a country that is the MAIN instigator of the Bahrain conflicts

3) Turkey, a sunni country, is the worse country when it comes to the rights of journalists (has the highest number of prisoned journalists in the world).

4) Iran is a half azzed democracy at the very least while every arab country is ruled by one family. Heck, KSA is named after one man, how sad.

In Iran I might not have much say when it comes to the president but at least I can chose my parliament members, mayors etc...

5) In KSA shias aren't even considered muslim while in Iran sunnis can pray in any mosque they chose to.

6) Iran has the largest Jewish pop'n in the ME after Israel while in Arab countries they don't even exist. We have a Jewish MP and a couple of Christian MPs in our parliament.

7) Wine and pork are legal for Christians and Jews. There are also tens of synogogues and churches all over Tehran and other Iranian cities. Can we say the same about Sandi Arabia?

The thread is about Protests/uprisings and related "LOCAL" events in BAHRAIN, these questions don't have to be answered.

1st argument, invalid and doesn't prove a point.

2nd, talking about women only but about HUMAN RIGHTS in general is something else, Both countries are not free. On the global peace index Saudi Arabia scored 101 which is not as bad as Iran at 119.

3rd, Turkey is not a sunni,shia ect state. Its SECULAR with no state religion, so another invalid argument.

4th, Yes and look how developed these countries are compared to the "so-called" semi democratic nation.

So ? same thing is applied in Kuwait, Qatar and other places where citizens could vote and have a say. We have a Consultative Assembly (Majlis as-Shura) and Municipal Council / National Assembly (Majlis al-Umma) / Federal National Council (al-Majlis al-Watani al-Ittihadi) Even Saudi Arabia has at least some form of voting process for Municipal council.

5th, Tell that to the Shia's that control many places in Dammam and AlAhsa who run businesses and have many Hussainiyat built for them.

6th, I never knew the middle eastern countries where competing to have more jews :lol: Seriously stop embarrassing yourself, there are Jewish Bahrainis and Christian Kuwaitis. A Jewish Bahraini women was part of the government too.

7th and last of this absurd argument, Yes actually you can, Saudi Arabia has numerous historical churches, infact there is a historical Synagogue in Bahrain too. There are many Christian churches and other places of worship in Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar (the largest in the Gulf + provided with government land) and UAE. Alcoholic beverages are found everywhere in the Gulf (excluding Saudi Arabia since its an Islamic state with 2 Holy masjids of Makkah and Medina so respect to Islamic values and Allah is without doubt. not saying Alcohol is not available in the black market. Pork/pigs are not exactly Muslims/Jews favorite animal/food, Pork is found in Dubai not to mention countries that already have pigs (Egypt etc).

Abdul, where did you learn English? Get a refund.......

.....So Abdul, what's it gonna be. ....... Grab a dictionary this time Abdul.

...... You might wanna check your facts before talking smack arab

what's up with all that ? do you call all Arabs "Abdul" (which would be ignorant and racist ) or do you actually know smussuw's real name ?:nuts:

as for your long and childishly stupid post, you can't distract us form racism and discrimination against Shia Arabs, Sunnis and non-Persian ethnic groups in Iran by pointing out other country's faults and violations of human rights.

and yeah.. boasting about having sunnis in Iran's parliament, while failing to mention the fact that there isn't a single sunni mosque in Tehran is pretty much hypocritical.

+1

jh1

June 10th, 2011, 10:06 AM

Abdul, where did you learn English? Get a refund.......

.....So Abdul, what's it gonna be. ....... Grab a dictionary this time Abdul.

...... You might wanna check your facts before talking smack arab

what's up with all that ? do you call all Arabs "Abdul" (which would be ignorant and racist ) or do you actually know smussuw's real name ?:nuts:

as for your long and childishly stupid post, you can't distract us form racism and discrimination against Shia Arabs, Sunnis and non-Persian ethnic groups in Iran by pointing out other country's faults and violations of human rights.

and yeah.. boasting about having sunnis in Iran's parliament, while failing to mention the fact that there isn't a single sunni mosque in Tehran is pretty much hypocritical.

iraqishi3i

June 10th, 2011, 08:07 PM

no one here can deny that the bahraini and saudi government have acted horribly and inhumanely to these protesters and some of you monsters think they deserved it (which is horrendous as no human deserves to be killed and stripped from a place to worship Allah)

Long live the Shia & Sunni (who don't support the monarchy) of Bahrain !

Down with those who destroy the houses of Allah and prevent Muslims from Worshipping Allah and burn his holy book !

Nimaa

June 10th, 2011, 09:04 PM

No, I still think is the worst ...

thank you for proving my point abdul

Nimaa

June 10th, 2011, 09:13 PM

what's up with all that ? do you call all Arabs "Abdul" (which would be ignorant and racist ) or do you actually know smussuw's real name ?:nuts:

as for your long and childishly stupid post, you can't distract us form racism and discrimination against Shia Arabs, Sunnis and non-Persian ethnic groups in Iran by pointing out other country's faults and violations of human rights.

and yeah.. boasting about having sunnis in Iran's parliament, while failing to mention the fact that there isn't a single sunni mosque in Tehran is pretty much hypocritical.

1) wtf is a sunni mosque?
care to explain?
In Iran both shias and sunnis can pray alongside each other in any mosque they want.

2) The leader of the nation is an Azeri not a Persian. Heck, half the mullahs are Azeris and not Persians.

If anybody should be complaining it's us Persians because our country has been made into an arabized Islamic hell hole since 1979.

3) In every category, there is at least one Middle Eastern country with a worse record than Iran. I only provided the facts after al quida over here tried to say Iran has the worst record in the region.

Mesch

June 10th, 2011, 09:18 PM

Daryush is right guys, Iran is the greatest country in the world. :3

Nimaa

June 10th, 2011, 09:31 PM

Daryush is right guys, Iran is the greatest country in the world. :3

I love how you arabs try to act all high and mighty but your hate is always visible. :lol::lol::lol:
You make derogetory comments, people respond and then you run away crying and telling ppl to go away :lol:

QWECXZ

June 10th, 2011, 10:12 PM

Nima you've dragged yourself into a point-less discussion I think :))
First of all, no one in this thread is going to agree with you except Iraqishi3 and the guy who posted some pages ago.
Second of all, for many of the people on this thread the only thing they see in this revolution is Iran's hands behind the scene lol. They "WANT" to close their eyes on what's going on in there just because they see it from another perspective than yours! they see it as a battlefield between Iran and the Sunni Arabs.
Third of all, the whole Iran vs Arab thing is bullshit I think. there's no point in it. but one thing is obvious, when it comes to human rights no country on earth can ever compete with Saudi Arabia :)) They arrest women for driving a car!
fourth, if Iranians turn a blind eye to what is happening in Syria you shouldn't get surprised. why should we care about Syrians get killed in Syria? did they support us when there were huge protests in Iran after the election? Nope. Although I know many Iranians who care about what is happening in Syria but most Iranians don't care because there's no link between us and them and they didn't support us. but Bahrainis are Arabs and Arabs call themselves brother :)) so, is it okay with Arabs to see their brothers getting tortured, raped and killed in Bahrain? :P You have to care 'cuz you are linked. but we don't have to care except for humanitarian reasons. and about the regime of Iran, they do what the USA and all other countries do. They care about their own interests. and Khamenei said it very clearly that they only support the revolution that is against the interests of the USA. that means Iran has openly said that It will not support the revolution in Syria which makes Iran free of the hypocrisy charge. (but the USA claims that it supports the rights of Bahraini people but do something else).

I'm sure that there is a revolution in Bahrain. You don't need to be a genius to see that. Bahrain is a country with small population and when you see these pictures from Bahrain you can easily tell that the country is not in a normal situation now:

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20110610/esmaeeli20110610140529623.jpg

jh1

June 10th, 2011, 10:28 PM

Nimaa , you did not address the "Abdul" question ?
I was looking forward to your answer .
1) wtf is a sunni mosque?
care to explain?
In Iran both shias and sunnis can pray alongside each other in any mosque they want.

2) The leader of the nation is an Azeri not a Persian. Heck, half the mullahs are Azeris and not Persians.

If anybody should be complaining it's us Persians because our country has been made into an arabized Islamic hell hole since 1979.

3) In every category, there is at least one Middle Eastern country with a worse record than Iran. I only provided the facts after al quida over here tried to say Iran has the worst record in the region.

1) is a mosque where sunnis pray! it's not a rocket science .
you know very well that the way Shia pray is different than that of Sunnis, and most Shia scholars forbid praying behind a sunni imam ( they made an exception to Makkah and Madinah ) and the same goes with sunnis, the majority believe that a prayer behind a Shia Imam is false and Haram, there for every group has its own mosque .

2) sure, but can you imagine an Arab (Shia) as the president of Iran ? let alone A sunni Arab or a Balochi . your country is an "Islamic" Shia "republic" and the chances of a sunni or a non shia becoming the president are zero. And the fact the Najad is an Azeri Shia doesn't not mean that there is no ethnic discrimination in Iran ( be it against Arabs or Balochis or the other ethnic minorities )

3) debating who's worse is pathetic and useless since they're all fucked-up .

You make derogetory comments, people respond and then you run away crying and telling ppl to go away :lol:

look who's talking.

Alrayyan

June 10th, 2011, 10:30 PM

Yeah totally not related to Hezbollah or Iran :ohno:

http://www.olamaa.com/new/news/photos/medium/11773207060.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4219/232786954.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/232786954.jpg/)
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6774/5613alrasheadnet.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/5613alrasheadnet.jpg/)

WAKE UP AND STOP DENYING YOURSELF

QWECXZ

June 10th, 2011, 10:37 PM

Nimaa , you did not address the Abdul question ?
I was looking forward to your answer .

1) is a mosque where sunnis pray! it's not a rocket science .
you know very well that the way Shia pray is different than that of Sunnis, and most Shia scholars forbid praying behind a sunni imam ( they made an exception to Makkah and Madinah ) and the same goes with sunnis, the majority believe that a prayer behind a Shia Imam is false and Haram, there for every group has its own mosque .

2) sure, but can you imagine an Arab (Shia) as the president of Iran ? let alone A sunni Arab or a Balochi . your country is an Islamic Shia republic and the chances of a sunni or a non shia becoming the president is zero. And the fact the Najad is an Azeri Shia doesn't not mean that there is no ethnic discrimination in Iran ( be it against Arabs or Balochis or the other ethnic minorities )

3) debating who's worse is pathetic and useless since they're all fucked-up .

I'm not Nima but just F.Y.I I have to say that in Iran about 90% of the population is Shi3e if not higher and they are ruled by a Shia regime. There is no wonder that in such a society where 90% of people are shi3e, the people who get elected in the election are shi3e. meanwhile, he didn't mean Ahmadinejad. He meant Khamenei. but the case in Bahrain is different. the majority of Bahraini people are shi3e and there are high chances that if they let a free referendum take place in Bahrain, most people would prefer to have a shi3e monarch or whatever system ruling over them than a Sunni Saudi/US backed regime.