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Ellatur
September 9th, 2004, 01:11 AM
What is the AVERAGE amount an AVERAGE architect earn in a year? I know it is not much, but ho wmuch specificly?

New Jack City
September 9th, 2004, 08:20 PM
According to the Occupational Outlook Handbook, 2004-05 Edition (http://www.bls.gov/oco/home.htm)

Earnings

Median annual earnings of wage and salary architects were $56,620 in 2002. The middle 50 percent earned between $44,030 and $74,460. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $36,280, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $92,350.

Earnings of partners in established architectural firms may fluctuate because of changing business conditions. Some architects may have difficulty establishing their own practices and may go through a period when their expenses are greater than their income, requiring substantial financial resources.

Gendo
September 10th, 2004, 02:01 AM
It also depends how much demand there is for that architect's unique style, assuming they have one. Also, if an Architect has a double major in Engineering, and has innovative style, he will definately be in the top 10%.

A BA in Architecture alone isn't usually going to get you much further than designing houses and small structures such as 2-3 story apartment buildings. In that case, which the vast majority of Architects fit into to, you will probably only make $40-50,000 per year.

It wouldn't surprise me if Cesar Pelli, the Architects at SOM, Sir Norman Foster, and any other big time skyscraper Architects make up to 7 figures annually (in the $millions).

mhays
September 10th, 2004, 06:02 AM
I think those averages are for registered architects only. In other words, the first years of a career aren't counted.

vvill
September 10th, 2004, 09:01 AM
Quote from the AJ (architectural journal) of the UK:

Annual Salary:
Year-out student: 16381 pounds (finished 3 years of bachelor course)
Part 3 student: 22931 pounds (finished 5 years of bachelor and diploma courses)
Architect: 32192 pounds
Associate: 40991 pounds
Partner: 70186 pounds

Ellatur
September 11th, 2004, 02:47 AM
thats pretty low...

and what are the differences between Architect, Associate, and Partner?

sergionni
September 11th, 2004, 09:15 PM
in serbia most of architects earn 500 euros in 1 month, which makes only 6.000 euros in a year . if you are more experienced architect (working more than 5 years ) you can get 800 euros in month which is 9.600 euros in a uyear :(

capslock
September 30th, 2004, 03:25 PM
AVERAGE SALARIES (http://www.architects-online.org)

Kevinkhoo1986
October 2nd, 2004, 12:39 PM
It also depends how much demand there is for that architect's unique style, assuming they have one. Also, if an Architect has a double major in Engineering, and has innovative style, he will definately be in the top 10%.

You mean after getting a Degree in architecture, we need to get another degree in engineering?

MCarr
October 2nd, 2004, 01:01 PM
You mean after getting a Degree in architecture, we need to get another degree in engineering?

not really that order, you can take first the engineer degree and after the architecture, which is better because you already know the materials and some contact with structures shapes, or if you really like the books :wallbash: you can take boths at the same time :crazy:

DuskTrooper
October 4th, 2004, 10:49 PM
Starting wages in Houston, Texas range around $46,000.

Ellatur
October 7th, 2004, 02:48 AM
AVERAGE SALARIES (http://www.architects-online.org)
thanks for the link :)

ArchITA
October 7th, 2004, 06:30 PM
Here in Italy a fresh-graduated architect earns from 250 to 550 euros a month (3600 to 8000 dollars a year). It's a pity because we start working at 27-28 years after 6 years of terrific preparation. A good italian architect in the US or nothern europe can earn 3 or 4 times more. (As i did in NY).
Actually the building-industry is frozen. Only Berlusconi is building pharaonic villas in national parks is costa smeralda (Sardinia).

Epicurion
October 8th, 2004, 01:32 PM
Here in Italy a fresh-graduated architect earns from 250 to 550 euros a month (3600 to 8000 dollars a year). It's a pity because we start working at 27-28 years after 6 years of terrific preparation. A good italian architect in the US or nothern europe can earn 3 or 4 times more. (As i did in NY).
Actually the building-industry is frozen. Only Berlusconi is building pharaonic villas in national parks is costa smeralda (Sardinia).

sorry, ArchITA, i strongly disagree. we're talking about an AVERAGE architect, working an AVERAGE amount of time in an AVERAGE architectural studio or firm. there is such thing as MINIMUM WAGE. now, minimum wage in Italy is about €3 per hour. multiply by 40 hours (AVERAGE working hours per week for any employee) is €120 per week or €500 per month. and this is at minimum wage. but your AVERAGE architect, working in an AVERAGE firm, cannot be earning minimum wage!!! besides, a factory worker earns twice as much, at least!!! now, you can say that SOME freshly-graduated trainee doing an apprenticeship period in some studio may earn the amount you said. maybe. but you definitely CANNOT say that that is the AVERAGE salary of a young architect!!! maybe it is your own experience, but it cannot be the rule!!! or nobody would study architecture in this country!!!

jmancuso
October 9th, 2004, 03:46 AM
Starting wages in Houston, Texas range around $46,000.


no way! more like $36K. architects really don't make that much money...

Urban Dave
October 9th, 2004, 11:15 PM
Here in Italy a fresh-graduated architect earns from 250 to 550 euros a month (3600 to 8000 dollars a year). It's a pity because we start working at 27-28 years after 6 years of terrific preparation. A good italian architect in the US or nothern europe can earn 3 or 4 times more. (As i did in NY).
Actually the building-industry is frozen. Only Berlusconi is building pharaonic villas in national parks is costa smeralda (Sardinia).
I am still studing, but already working on a architecture office and I earn aprox 600 € / month, and I only work 4 hours a day!

Mike_
October 10th, 2004, 09:04 AM
i have a question; to be involved in designing supertalls or even low rise commercial/industrial, you need a degree in Engineering? I always thought architecture alone would be enough qualification for the design aspect of the structure.

also, what sort of experience would you need for these jobs? 10-20 years?

gothicform
October 11th, 2004, 06:12 PM
im not an architect but my hourly rate is approx £50 per hour. thats about $90 at the current exchange rates. you do not need a qualification in architecture to design a building cosmetically, you do however need a qualification to do the engineering inside it.
i dont have the figures for last year but in 2002 i believe foster and partners got fees of £44 million from clients. they are one of the ten largest practises in the world. it should be remembered that being a successful architect, as with any profession, means you then earn money from other things to.

Genç
October 11th, 2004, 07:36 PM
The thing is, there just isn't that much money in architecture anymore, architects aren't really in demand...why?? :dunno:
It takes up to 8 years of your life to study for it, and the return wage isn't that much (unless you work for a big firm).

gothicform
October 14th, 2004, 12:00 AM
there is plenty of money in architecture. the idea is this... train as an architect, get experience and save up and buy a small practise, architects with small practises sell them when they retire. you will then earn six figures a year quite easily. if you want to make money instantly dont expect to get it in architecture. the fact of the matter is architecture is comparable in pay to medicine, law, and accountancy.
many architecture practises provide services not directly related to architecture such as planning, consultancy, property development and so on. the income from these are not included in pure architect fees that have been stated in this thread.

Hebrewtext
October 28th, 2004, 02:33 AM
how much an architect earns in your country?

pay attention to this conditions:

1.gross salary per year in aprivate firm
2.comper it to the average salary in your country
3.the degree in architecture is practicle . (you can design & build a 100 fl. tower).this is becouse the different degree & qualification system in each country.
4. at least 5 years exp.+licensed and full time job (45 hr.aweek)

an architect in Tel Aviv(under the conditions above) earns an average salary of $20000 ayear which is the average income in Israel. meaning asecritery and ablue collar worker in Israel earns the same as aprofassional architect. :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

elfreako
November 1st, 2004, 07:00 AM
An architecture graduate in Australia can get anything between A$26000-$33000 (that's about US$19000-$24000)....ABSOLUTE SHIT PAY for a 5-year course. Don't do architecture for the money...bricklayers earn more!

Kevinkhoo1986
November 4th, 2004, 07:59 AM
Do anyone know what exactly is an architect's job? They just merely design the building's drawings? Then who will calculate the costs and the materials used in a building?

elfreako
November 5th, 2004, 04:54 AM
The architect today is employed more as a design consultant employed by a builder/developer. Before, they used to run the whole project, but today, project managers tend to do this. Quantity surveyors calculate the costing of the materials and construction put together.