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RafflesCity
September 9th, 2004, 04:07 PM
22 August 2004

Does anyone know if these are HDB blocks under construction? From their style they look like 40-storey ones?

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/3636/jlnbesar.jpg

heirloom
September 9th, 2004, 04:27 PM
in that area, why would they build anything less tahn 40 storeys?

RafflesCity
September 9th, 2004, 04:32 PM
so you think they are TALL (possibly 40 storey) HDB blocks?

Cant be private right?

btw they arent exactly near the Toa Payoh blocks seen in the background.

heirloom
September 9th, 2004, 04:54 PM
looks very much like hdb flats to me... where are they?

RafflesCity
September 9th, 2004, 04:58 PM
I think that area is called Jalan Besar. Never mind I will investigate them :)

redstone
September 9th, 2004, 05:04 PM
Oh, do go to the old Christ Church Sec to check if it is still there, grab some photos and post here! :D

RafflesCity
September 12th, 2004, 03:53 PM
Finally identified the project :cool:

http://www.allgreen.com.sg/allgreencorp/projects/kerrisdale/images/home_r2_c3.gif

http://www.allgreen.com.sg/allgreencorp/projects/kerrisdale/images/home_r1_c1.gif

Project Name Kerrisdale
Property Type Condominium
Street Beatty Road
District 8
Postal Code Not Specified
Country Singapore
Total No of Units 481
TOP Date 31/5/2006
Tenure 99 years w.e.f 2/4/1998
Sale Price selling at $480 psf
Maintenance Charge
Not Specified
Remarks Not Specified
Facilities Swimming Pool, Barbeque, 24 Hours Security, Gymnasium, Tennis Court, Putting Green, Car Park

Units
Overall 990 to 2787sqf

RafflesCity
September 12th, 2004, 04:09 PM
11 Sep 2004

http://img22.exs.cx/img22/471/kerris119.jpg

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/3894/kerris119a.jpg

RafflesCity
October 18th, 2004, 02:55 PM
18 October 2004

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/6303/kerris1810.jpg

RafflesCity
October 28th, 2004, 02:18 PM
26 October 2004

readying the showroom

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/4387/kerris2610.jpg

hyacinthus
November 22nd, 2004, 09:42 AM
Yes... Kerrisdale does not look very modern on brochure... Allgreen has just updated their advert image. http://img92.exs.cx/img92/538/Kerrisdale_AdvertSmall.jpg

But it's affordable at $460psf. I bought a unit there... guess the view would probably blocked by "City Square" when it's ready in 2008/2009 since the development is also NS facing... City Square is designed by Ong & Ong and it's FH. I believe it should look modern...

RafflesCity
November 22nd, 2004, 12:04 PM
hi hyacinthus!

welcome to the forum

The latest advert for Kerrisdale looks more glamorous indeed. Please check out the Kerrisdale thread here, I have been updating on its construction progress. I'll probably move the last few posts here over there.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=133759

hyacinthus
November 22nd, 2004, 03:23 PM
Thanks! :) I was hoping to find some pictures of Kerrisdale. Had taken some from afar at UOB Plaza's 38th and 60th flr. But, a bit small given the distance and my camera... :P

Picture taken from 38th flr. Picture to taken from 60th flr were blur due to haze... :(
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/4153/UOBReduced.th.jpg (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111&image=UOBReduced.jpg)

Just went to City Square's site today. By the look of it, CDL will probably launch in Jan/Feb 2005. Yes, they have interesting shophouses around there.

RafflesCity
November 22nd, 2004, 03:27 PM
In fact just beside Kerrisdale is Petain Rd, a nice row of shophouses (pls see the shophouse thread). The population boom in that area due to the new 30 storey condos should create more retail there, as has happened at Novena/Newton.

another project to be launched soon is Capitaland's Jellicoe site :cool:

RafflesCity
November 22nd, 2004, 04:28 PM
Thanks! :) I was hoping to find some pictures of Kerrisdale. Had taken some from afar at UOB Plaza's 38th and 60th flr. But, a bit small given the distance and my camera... :P

Picture taken from 38th flr. Picture to taken from 60th flr were blur due to haze... :(
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/4153/UOBReduced.th.jpg (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111&image=UOBReduced.jpg)

Just went to City Square's site today. By the look of it, CDL will probably launch in Jan/Feb 2005. Yes, they have interesting shophouses around there.

cool pic! :banana:

i can just barely make out the Kerrisdale

if you dont mind I'm posting the panorama in our SINGARAMAS thread,
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=68121

heirloom
November 22nd, 2004, 04:35 PM
i wonder why kerrisdale would be designed as it is if they knew consumers would prefer the image shown in the advertisment. hate such deceitful advertising. congrats on getting a new home btw :)

as for kitchener road, i wonder what type of mall will it be considering its not very upmarket location? will it be like bugis junction or uh.. something deplorable like.. mustafa (lol) or somewhere in between?

hyacinthus
November 22nd, 2004, 04:45 PM
No problem... But, the image posted was taken from 38th floor... not 60th floor (cos it's blur due to haze)... hehe... you can make out the shape of the 1st block of Kerrisdale "next to" lower tower of Swissotel (can't remember the name) in that picture.

RafflesCity
November 22nd, 2004, 04:46 PM
hyacinthus the best view of Kerrisdale (for me so far) is if you go up that tall block of flats near Lavender MRT station, which is actually not a long walk away from the site :cool:

hyacinthus
November 22nd, 2004, 04:56 PM
i wonder why kerrisdale would be designed as it is if they knew consumers would prefer the image shown in the advertisment. hate such deceitful advertising. congrats on getting a new home btw :)

as for kitchener road, i wonder what type of mall will it be considering its not very upmarket location? will it be like bugis junction or uh.. something deplorable like.. mustafa (lol) or somewhere in between?

Thanks. Well... that's why there are clauses in all brochures saying that it's artist's impression only. Maybe, I'll post some real pictures when TOP.

huaiwei
November 23rd, 2004, 08:34 AM
Haha so funny...seeing u investigate it. :D

Anyway I hear its not selling that well.....but its near mrt leh....u guys wanna buy? ;)

paw
November 23rd, 2004, 08:56 AM
I do not think it is selling well. I was there visiting the showflat, but did not find anything striking about the condo. Plus the area around it is (or used to be) a red-light district. But it is attractive in terms of pricing.

As for the layout in the units, the windows in some of the rooms were too small. You can see from the picture RC put up and the small windows in the front units actually belonged to the third bedroom's.

paw

huaiwei
November 23rd, 2004, 09:01 AM
Oooo! Paw ks back! :banana:

Anyway it clearly looks nothing special, and I wished its 10 floors higher, so that at least I can a little more excited with it. :D

RafflesCity
November 23rd, 2004, 09:13 AM
Haha so funny...seeing u investigate it. :D


but it does seem exciting, it rises and dominates its surroundings, I have also recently been on a journey of discovery around Jalan Besar :D

just imagine when this project and the Kitchener one are complete we will have a cluster of 7 thirty-storey blocks! :eek:

RafflesCity
November 23rd, 2004, 09:14 AM
Not that theres a standard look to condos or such these days, but my fren who isnt a skyscraper-fan siad it resembled a HDB block which is what I thought at first, however its leisure grounds are big :cool:

huaiwei
November 23rd, 2004, 09:22 AM
but it does seem exciting, it rises and dominates its surroundings, I have also recently been on a journey of discovery around Jalan Besar :D

just imagine when this project and the Kitchener one are complete we will have a cluster of 7 thirty-storey blocks! :eek:
Hehe...yiap yiap! And Citylights is not tt far away too, plus there is more land for potential highrises..such as the plots rite beside the mrt station near the hdb flats, and the former Christ Ch sec sch site? And if I am not wrong, the entire Kallang Basin area may end up being redeveloped into a residential zone!

RafflesCity
November 23rd, 2004, 09:25 AM
:banana:

i am very excited this might be a new cluster for singapore!

but i am surprised they r allowed to go as high as 30 floors or 43, since the area is quite near the Paya Lebar airbase rite?

anyway would be sad if the Christchurch school goes, heartache for rredstone :bash:

huaiwei
November 23rd, 2004, 09:28 AM
Haha...yeah tt is waht I am kinda expecting too. the problem is getting rid of all those stuff littering the area....Plus some old schools and fields near Rangoon Road? Actually wonder what they gonna do with the old KK hospital site too. Maybe in the end, Little India will end up envoliooed by high rises on all sides! :D

I dunno about that school lah....razed it! :lol:

stingraytan
November 26th, 2004, 08:32 AM
Had a look at the showroom just now. The multistorey carpark really turn me off a fair bit. overall, an ok development in my view.

hyacinthus
November 26th, 2004, 09:14 AM
Had a look at the showroom just now. The multistorey carpark really turn me off a fair bit. overall, an ok development in my view.

Why?

stingraytan
November 26th, 2004, 10:31 AM
one of the things i cant stand about the newer hdb estates is the muli storey car park which is a seperate building from the residence itself..

have to climb down to go up... after circling up in the car.. maybe its just lazy me.. but i dont like it.

hyacinthus
November 26th, 2004, 04:44 PM
one of the things i cant stand about the newer hdb estates is the muli storey car park which is a seperate building from the residence itself..

have to climb down to go up... after circling up in the car.. maybe its just lazy me.. but i dont like it.

oic... Kerrisdale is not HDB's. Its Basement, Deck 2 & 4 leads directly to the lift. No need to climb up and down. Only when you park at Deck 1 & 3, then you need to go 1 floor up/down. :)

RafflesCity
November 26th, 2004, 09:21 PM
is there a map of the grounds? layout of the swimming pool all that?

hyacinthus
November 27th, 2004, 04:12 AM
is there a map of the grounds? layout of the swimming pool all that?

Is this what you are looking for?
http://www.redas.com.sg/html/showcasing/Kerrisdale/images/sitemap1.jpg

If you are looking for the carpark, it's below the facilities where the putting green and jogging track etc is.

Other info:
1) Fridge, Washing Machine, Dryer, Hair Dryer, shoe cabinet, cooker hood and hob etc are included.
2) Monthly Maintenance Fees = $220 per month for 3-br units.
Facilities:
- Lap/Kids/Lounge/Reflective/Water Play/Jacuzzi Pools
- BBQ Pavilions
- Kids' Play Areas
- Fitness Stations
- Tennis Courts
- BasketBall Practice Area
- Golf Driving Range
- Artificial Putting Green
- Koi Pond
- Jogging Track
- Function Room
- Reading Room
- Gymnasium
- Reflexology Path

3) 5-min walk to Farrer Park MRT, 12-min walk to Lavender MRT (I walk very fast, so it's 2-min faster) Best of all, only 4 stations away from work, 2 stations away to Plaza Singapura and many convenient bus services. Can also walk to Kallang after dinner at many eateries around Kerrisdale.

Also, it's very affordable at $460 psf even above 20-storey. ;)

If you are worried about passing by Flanders Rd at night by Petain Rd when you are not driving, there's a resident gate at Sturdee Rd which leads to Serangoon Rd (to Farrer Park Station) where the French Stall is.

I noticed a pano where Kerrisdale is in it taken by... yourself? I like it. :)

http://img24.exs.cx/img24/9591/panothursday.jpg

huaiwei
November 27th, 2004, 09:42 AM
one of the things i cant stand about the newer hdb estates is the muli storey car park which is a seperate building from the residence itself..

have to climb down to go up... after circling up in the car.. maybe its just lazy me.. but i dont like it.
Well, then you should check out the newer generation blocks. Increasingly, the carpark is below ground, or the blocks are built on top of the carparks, such that you can take a lift from the carparks directly to your unit.

Now THAT is impressive for HDB! :D

RafflesCity
November 27th, 2004, 02:41 PM
I noticed a pano where Kerrisdale is in it taken by... yourself? I like it. :)


Yes I took it, thanks :)

Thanks for the ground floor plan, I can say that the facilities are quite comprehensive, but the good thing is that it is just 2 stops by MRT from Dhoby Ghaut, proximity to the city is a good thing. I wonder what the views from it will be like too :cool:

hyacinthus
November 27th, 2004, 02:50 PM
I don't know for now. Will post some pictures of the view when TOP (if I still remember... :) Without City Square blocking, I may be able to see fireworks at Padang 2 years from now.)

stingraytan
November 28th, 2004, 09:08 AM
So hyacinthus,

i assume u bought a unit there? The $/sqfeet is definitely competitive and am sure there's great potential for appreciation as the area goes thru its upgrading.. ITs just personally, the units are relatively big and thus the price per unit is quite high for investment purposes. But i guess if one is to stay there, its definately a good investment. :okay:

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 09:15 AM
Thank you. :)

I don't qualify to buy a HDB flat (so much rulings that I sometimes fail to understand. What makes a couple of combined household income slightly more than $8k any better than those slightly below $8k? $8k is too low since most couples now marry in their late 20s /early 30s. ECs are so far away. I don't like resale flats. )

So, got to find the next best alternative which does not hurt my wallet too much and near workplace and Orchard/Suntec/Bugis/City Hall.

stingraytan
November 28th, 2004, 09:19 AM
Congrats on your acquisation!

yah, i do agree HDB should stop interfering with the market.

So you looking around at other developments still or ??

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 09:24 AM
Looking around for comparison now. Not to buy. Stressful to take on loans... never know when the company will ask you to go.

huaiwei
November 28th, 2004, 10:18 AM
Oh...so still haven buy ah?

Why not go for the marina bay one? :D

stingraytan
November 28th, 2004, 10:24 AM
Errmm.. i think he bought le..

Why dont YOU buy a unit at the sail?? come come, dont shy..

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 10:31 AM
Oh...so still haven buy ah?

Why not go for the marina bay one? :D

Even if I have not bought Kerrisdale, I will not buy sail@marina. It's zhong1 kan4 bu4 zhong1 mai3. You are paying a high premium for a LH99 development. The price of a 1-br unit at sail@marina MORE than that of a 3-br unit at Kerrisdale. Furthermore, Shu4 Da4 Zhao1 Feng1... meaning an easy target for terrorism.

huaiwei
November 28th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Terrorism!! :D

Yeah actually its true. Its just 99 years leh. Are they obliged to demolish it after that time frame?

And hyacinthus, you are a she right? ;)

huaiwei
November 28th, 2004, 10:43 AM
Errmm.. i think he bought le..

Why dont YOU buy a unit at the sail?? come come, dont shy..
Is it? She say she looking around leh...so I tot...

As for me, erm, you are talking to a poor student loh (albeit a soon to be graduating one), so you will have to chop a unit for me for about 5 yrs before I can buy it! :D

stingraytan
November 28th, 2004, 10:53 AM
oops, my wrong.. didnt know you'r a lady..

guess one's man apple is another's poison eh?

A perfect example of different developments catering for different target demographics.. :cheers:

huaiwei
November 28th, 2004, 11:04 AM
oops, my wrong.. didnt know you'r a lady..

guess one's man apple is another's poison eh?

A perfect example of different developments catering for different target demographics.. :cheers:
Muahaah....but I think Im guessing too. hyacinthus has not really confirmed yet.

And btw, I think you just contributed to the Sg forum's 40,000th post. :lol: :D

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 11:06 AM
Is it? She say she looking around leh...so I tot...

As for me, erm, you are talking to a poor student loh (albeit a soon to be graduating one), so you will have to chop a unit for me for about 5 yrs before I can buy it! :D

looking around for comparison... read carefully.

To buy a 1-br unit at sail@marina, alone, 5 years later assuming price remains status quo (i.e. $900k, right?) and the CPF rule remains the same, you must be earning at least of $6.5K - 7K + saving at the rate of at least $18k per year for the 10% downpayment & earning enough for CPF to cover the next 10% downpayment, $21.4K stamp duties as well as the hefty monthly loan of about $4K per mth for the rest of the 30 years (if interest rates don't go up that is)...

But, if you have a rich and doting father/loving girlfriend/have a lucrative business/won enough prize money, that's a different story.

stingraytan
November 28th, 2004, 11:17 AM
errmm, actually, a 1 bedroom @ the sail cost around 600k++ for a one facing the marina and below 20 storey..

So assuming 20% downpayment, we are looking at $60k in CURRENT CPF, and $60k in cash NOW (cos we will need to pay the 20% 8 weeks from the day we buy).. And if using deferred payment, the loan will kick in at TOP. so a loan of $480,000, and assuming a loan tenure of 35 years (i do realise that a lot of the forumers here are quite young..), monthly instalment will be around $2k+- a month, at current interest rates.. Left my finance calculator at the office, but i'm quite certain its around there..

So, its not as bad as hyacinthus make it out to be.. :)

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 11:23 AM
errmm, actually, a 1 bedroom @ the sail cost around 600k++ for a one facing the marina and below 20 storey..

So assuming 20% downpayment, we are looking at $60k in CURRENT CPF, and $60k in cash NOW (cos we will need to pay the 20% 8 weeks from the day we buy).. And if using deferred payment, the loan will kick in at TOP. so a loan of $480,000, and assuming a loan tenure of 35 years (i do realise that a lot of the forumers here are quite young..), monthly instalment will be around $2k+- a month, at current interest rates.. Left my finance calculator at the office, but i'm quite certain its around there..

So, its not as bad as hyacinthus make it out to be.. :)

Working on a lower price, of course looks better at $2+k/mth and lower stamp duties of $12+K. but, for 35 years? I assume he is 25 this year? Meaning that he has to bear the loan for 35 years till he is 60 years old before he can retire... of course there are such things as prepayments. Also, he needs discipline to save at least $12k per year of his take home pay for the 10% downpayment and provided his CPF OA has enough (he has to earn about avg $4k/mth for the 5 years to accumulate $60k if his CPF OA is $0). How much does a fresh graduate earn these days?

RafflesCity
November 28th, 2004, 11:50 AM
actually is it true that 99 year leasehold isnt too attractive to Singaporeans?

at least those with families.


as for terrorism target, i'm not sure how serious that is, but it is always a possibility, maybe thats why they removed the twin towers proposal in the first place, i remember a guy at URA said why have so tall, look at 911...

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 11:54 AM
actually is it true that 99 year leasehold isnt too attractive to Singaporeans?

at least those with families.


as for terrorism target, i'm not sure how serious that is, but it is always a possibility, maybe thats why they removed the twin towers proposal in the first place, i remember a guy at URA said why have so tall, look at 911...

HDB is 99LH, isn't it?

If this is a general statement, it is true. But, location and price plays a big part too.

stingraytan
November 28th, 2004, 11:57 AM
hmmm... you are making me very curious as to how much u paid for your unit at Kerrisdale.. Sure seems to be a very good bargain for you..

Thought we are looking at a price range of 6-700k as well there....

:)

RafflesCity
November 28th, 2004, 12:00 PM
@hyacinthus, oh ok

hmmm I think Kerrisdale's location overall isnt too bad, it is near the city, suntec, bugis area.

its something like De Royale at Balestier

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 12:04 PM
hmmm... you are making me very curious as to how much u paid for your unit at Kerrisdale.. Sure seems to be a very good bargain for you..

Thought we are looking at a price range of 6-700k as well there....

:)

yep. But, I am an expired graduate. hehe...

stingraytan
November 28th, 2004, 12:07 PM
yep. But, I am an expired graduate. hehe...

:nocrook:

and so am i.. hahaha, but like i mentioned in an earlier post, diff projects for different "lifestyle" choices?

So guys, no matter which project you fancy, the finance applies.. so do the hdb rules. :bash:

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 12:10 PM
@hyacinthus, oh ok

hmmm I think Kerrisdale's location overall isnt too bad, it is near the city, suntec, bugis area.

its something like De Royale at Balestier

I've studied both places. In terms of my travel convenience and price, I prefer Kerrsidale. If I am not wrong, De Royale is FH, while Kerrisdale is LH. I am not too concern about the lease. My concern is convenience and price. Would never live out the lease anyway. Why burden myself by getting a FH?

If it is a landed property, I will definitely consider if it's FH/LH. Houses become old and problematic to live in after decades. But, you can demolish and rebuilt on a FH land. You can argue about enbloc sale for FH condo. But, you need the other people's approval too.

About DeRoyale, so sian to climb the bridge over the highway to Toa Payoh MRT then change at Raffles Place MRT to East-West line.

RafflesCity
November 28th, 2004, 12:16 PM
yup thats true...lots of sites around Novena and Thomson for eg that are screaming enbloc sale. :yes:

overall i think a FH site has long-term security

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 12:17 PM
hmmm... you are making me very curious as to how much u paid for your unit at Kerrisdale.. Sure seems to be a very good bargain for you..

Thought we are looking at a price range of 6-700k as well there....

:)

I think you are quoting the list price. Didn't the agent tell you that if you pay by normal instalments, it's 14% discount off the list price???

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 12:24 PM
yup thats true...lots of sites around Novena and Thomson for eg that are screaming enbloc sale. :yes:

overall i think a FH site has long-term security

Do you know that a development is like a human body? Over the years as it ages, water leakage problems etc appears after 10 - 15 years? If you bought a FH 15 years ago, I would say it's a good investment as Singapore was growing at double digits... The prices gone up twice of that bought in 1980s. Now, I would be happy for the owners of FH properties bought from 1997 till recently if the price does not go below.

hyacinthus
November 28th, 2004, 12:26 PM
:nocrook:

and so am i.. hahaha, but like i mentioned in an earlier post, diff projects for different "lifestyle" choices?

So guys, no matter which project you fancy, the finance applies.. so do the hdb rules. :bash:

+ CPF rules...

stingraytan
November 29th, 2004, 06:17 AM
Even if I have not bought Kerrisdale, I will not buy sail@marina. It's zhong1 kan4 bu4 zhong1 mai3. You are paying a high premium for a LH99 development. The price of a 1-br unit at sail@marina MORE than that of a 3-br unit at Kerrisdale. Furthermore, Shu4 Da4 Zhao1 Feng1... meaning an easy target for terrorism.

Interesting.. Kerrisdale is also a LH99 development..
The price of a 1bedroom unit is = 3 bedroom at kerrisdale. (not MORE than..)

I do agree on the terrorism threat tho.. but i guess if terrorism do strike (touch wood), i would say the whole of singapore would be pretty much affected..

Its also conveniently located to the city (if not IN the city), and pretty accessible to bugis, suntec etc, like Kerrisdale...

So the 'zhong kan bu zhong mai' is based solely on the size/number of bedroom factors or are there others?

Sorry for being nosey but i do really want to learn more on how one gauges the value for the property.. :cheers:

hyacinthus
November 29th, 2004, 08:05 AM
A 3-br unit at 22 storey in kerrisdale is $580K < A 1-br unit at 22 storey in Sail@marina ($600+K).

hyacinthus
November 29th, 2004, 08:25 AM
Interesting.. Kerrisdale is also a LH99 development..
The price of a 1bedroom unit is = 3 bedroom at kerrisdale. (not MORE than..)

I do agree on the terrorism threat tho.. but i guess if terrorism do strike (touch wood), i would say the whole of singapore would be pretty much affected..

Its also conveniently located to the city (if not IN the city), and pretty accessible to bugis, suntec etc, like Kerrisdale...

So the 'zhong kan bu zhong mai' is based solely on the size/number of bedroom factors or are there others?

Sorry for being nosey but i do really want to learn more on how one gauges the value for the property.. :cheers:

'zhong kan bu zhong mai' -> Is for my own opinion and does not necessary represent the general public. hehe...

I see things in all perspective, too much to write here. Summarizing is getting the best value for my (limited) money...

RafflesCity
December 2nd, 2004, 07:01 AM
1 December 2004

Its at about 24th floor now

http://************/ea36fq.jpg

hyacinthus
December 2nd, 2004, 07:53 AM
Not for my block. It's only at 21 storey when I was there yesterday... hmmm... you were there too??? :)

I think the blocks will "cover HDB HQ" from the place you are taking the pic when it's completed.

RafflesCity
December 2nd, 2004, 07:54 AM
yes, I went to visit the showroom and look at the model....

the carpark is huge! it connects all 3 blocks. I also got the brochure :)

huaiwei
December 2nd, 2004, 12:03 PM
1 December 2004

Its at about 24th floor now

http://img68.exs.cx/img68/549/61-kerris0112.jpg
Bery kute...its like its got three colours! :D

RafflesCity
December 2nd, 2004, 01:34 PM
I'm beginning to like the facade, creamy looking beige....

although in the renderings it seems more green+beige, here there is more blue

love it nevertheless :cheers:

huaiwei
December 2nd, 2004, 02:00 PM
It looks like its morphing from grey to white to blue thats why. :D

hyacinthus
December 8th, 2004, 05:19 PM
8 December 2004

Taken from 30-storey flat at Jellicoe Road. (22nd Flr)
http://img3.exs.cx/img3/3038/upkerr12fc.jpg

Taken from 30-storey flat at Jellicoe Road. (30th Flr)
http://img32.exs.cx/img32/4202/upkerr40to.jpg

hyacinthus
December 17th, 2004, 07:54 AM
Can you find Kerrisdale in this picture? :)

http://img156.exs.cx/img156/6406/dscn0006a8so.jpg

RafflesCity
December 17th, 2004, 11:46 PM
beautiful pics! :okay:

they seem to almost camouflage with the background

how nice if the land used for City Square were to be a park..nice green area around there :)

hyacinthus
December 18th, 2004, 05:19 AM
:laugh: If URA changed the use to park, I wonder how much they would have to compensate CDL... I don't mind a condo there, just don't block my view.... :)

redstone
December 19th, 2004, 01:37 PM
http://img160.exs.cx/img160/6130/novenareduced7ct.jpg
See it? ;)

hyacinthus
December 19th, 2004, 03:08 PM
Yep. on the left. :)

RafflesCity
December 19th, 2004, 05:17 PM
the cranes on the new National Library look like the tentacles of some monster! :lol:

redstone
December 19th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Anyone spot KK? ;) :D

RafflesCity
December 19th, 2004, 05:21 PM
just 4 horizontal windows ;)

redstone
December 19th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Some wards in KK have very stunning views! :cool:
So does those in TTS...

RafflesCity
December 19th, 2004, 05:31 PM
is it possible to enter them and take pics? Hospitals have never crossed my imagination

redstone
December 19th, 2004, 05:33 PM
The wards are open, but not sure if the nurses would chase you out, though... :lol: :D
In KK, try Children's Tower... :yes:


TTSH is a great place to see Novena.

drwho
December 19th, 2004, 09:26 PM
thats nice pictures!! cool thing how Kerrisdale melts in with the skyline:)

RafflesCity
December 23rd, 2004, 03:18 PM
22 December 2004

a different angle, can see the multi-storey carpark being built

http://img159.exs.cx/img159/3776/kerris22124iy.jpg

hyacinthus
December 24th, 2004, 03:50 PM
Thanks! :hug:

I missed this post.

Hope to see it complete soon...

RafflesCity
December 25th, 2004, 08:15 AM
thank you hyacinthus! :banana:

cant wait till they start designing the top

hyacinthus
December 25th, 2004, 04:16 PM
:) That's why I was there again... guess overnight miracle even on Christmas Day is not possible!

http://img145.exs.cx/img145/3783/dscn00030qg.jpg

RafflesCity
December 25th, 2004, 04:19 PM
wow I love how blue the windows look :eek:

much better than green i guess :cool:

hyacinthus
December 25th, 2004, 05:59 PM
Hmmm... Not sure if it was blue due to the colour of the protective film or truly the window's colour itself. Time will tell :)

Here's another pic from the back.

http://img155.exs.cx/img155/5102/dscn00056hr.jpg

hyacinthus
December 26th, 2004, 05:54 AM
Here's another view... :)

Car Park of this block is not built yet...

http://img151.exs.cx/img151/3887/dscn00089qg.jpg

RafflesCity
December 26th, 2004, 07:20 AM
wow never seen it up close from the back

looks quite nice, with 2 solid arms

which one is your unit again? :)

hyacinthus
December 26th, 2004, 07:21 AM
somewhere in this block... cannot be so specific la.

RafflesCity
December 26th, 2004, 07:24 AM
true lah..anyway I remember you said your view was facing the other side :cool:

Cliff
December 26th, 2004, 07:25 AM
On which floor did you buy your house?

ahlipp
December 26th, 2004, 07:31 AM
[QUOTE=hyacinthus]Here's another view... :)

Car Park of this block is not built yet...

so u hv commited to Kerrisdale already? what size unit are u looking at??

for a LH at around lavender/serrangoon area, say 1000 sq ft, half a mil is abt the right bargain...plus a reasonable size project as tht...

but if one is planning tht amt on a condo...y not get a smaller FH??

hv u seen Pinnacle 16...ard $400k for a 581 sqft unit lower floor?? kind of pl for singles or couple without kids...tink the location is a gd bargain at tht price??

redstone
December 26th, 2004, 07:35 AM
Wah, Kerrisdale fan!

hyacinthus
December 26th, 2004, 07:36 AM
Seen already. The nearest MRT to Pinnacle 16 is Novena. Not direct line to my office. also too small and small devt => high maintenance. Also, 1 BR is hard to sell in resale mkt.

ahlipp
December 26th, 2004, 07:40 AM
Seen already. The nearest MRT to Pinnacle 16 is Novena. Not direct line to my office. also too small and small devt => high maintenance.

hmm...i was telling raffie, the location is quite perfect...back of it balestia..glorious food...two stops down, orchard...wow...cant get any better than tht...plus the novena area coming up with it's own unique skyline...

...only thing short...$$$ haha

ahlipp
December 26th, 2004, 07:41 AM
Seen already. The nearest MRT to Pinnacle 16 is Novena. Not direct line to my office. also too small and small devt => high maintenance. Also, 1 BR is hard to sell in resale mkt.

hmmm seens like a lady is better in market research...looking at more angles

RafflesCity
December 26th, 2004, 07:59 AM
true :yes:

of course the Pinnacle 16 location is definitely very central...but i guess every factor has to be taken in..I think Pinnacle 16 has slightly larger penthouse units with private jacuzzi too :cool:

hyacinthus
December 26th, 2004, 08:00 AM
true :yes:

of course the Pinnacle 16 location is definitely very central...but i guess every factor has to be taken in..I think Pinnacle 16 has slightly larger penthouse units with private jacuzzi too :cool:

so does Kerrisdale's double-storey full glass penthouses at its 30th floor. :)

RafflesCity
December 26th, 2004, 08:03 AM
oh i saw the renditions in the brochure..looks like the ultimate house in the sky :D

hyacinthus
December 26th, 2004, 08:03 AM
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RafflesCity
January 26th, 2005, 03:46 PM
26 January 2005

http://img187.exs.cx/img187/8131/kerris26015sf.jpg

http://img169.exs.cx/img169/268/kerris2601a7dp.jpg

hyacinthus
January 26th, 2005, 04:00 PM
26 January 2005

http://img187.exs.cx/img187/8131/kerris26015sf.jpg

http://img169.exs.cx/img169/268/kerris2601a7dp.jpg

You went today???? :colgate:

So tall already!?! I am so excited.... :D

RafflesCity
January 26th, 2005, 04:07 PM
yup^^

Do you think theyre starting to build those tall windows near the top for the penthouses? I think it has at least 4 more floors to go, then the crown feature.

http://img183.exs.cx/img183/9424/kerris2601b9bt.jpg

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/8315/kerris2601c2sm.jpg

hyacinthus
January 26th, 2005, 04:12 PM
yup^^

Do you think theyre starting to build those tall windows near the top for the penthouses? I think it has at least 4 more floors to go, then the crown feature.

http://img183.exs.cx/img183/9424/kerris2601b9bt.jpg

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/8315/kerris2601c2sm.jpg

I like the 3rd pic... :colgate:

The full-length windows are for 27th to 30th storey units. 31st Storey is 2nd level of the penthouses which are different from the rest of the floors then followed by the crown on top...

Anyway, I didn't get the full-length ones... :(

RafflesCity
January 26th, 2005, 04:15 PM
but the last pic is the direction your view will be facing right? :cool:

hyacinthus
January 26th, 2005, 04:18 PM
but the last pic is the direction your view will be facing right? :cool:

:yes:

Thanks RC! :hug:

You ended my day with a nice treat! :colgate:

RafflesCity
January 26th, 2005, 04:24 PM
^^

nice to hear! :D

i also have a pano with kerrisdale in it :P will post tomorrow perhaps

hyacinthus
January 28th, 2005, 05:56 AM
^^

nice to hear! :D

i also have a pano with kerrisdale in it :P will post tomorrow perhaps

already 2 days leh... :D

Anyway, I hope to do a pano from the library's observation pod soon... should be able to see Kerrisdale very, very clearly. :colgate:

RafflesCity
January 28th, 2005, 05:58 AM
you mean you have access to the library's pod?!

I know I still have quite a few unposted pics :P

hyacinthus
January 28th, 2005, 06:02 AM
you mean you have access to the library's pod?!

I know I still have quite a few unposted pics :P

Isn't that opened to the public when it's open this year? :?

Ya... owe me this one... :D

RafflesCity
January 28th, 2005, 06:04 AM
oh yes..it will open this year, but I dont know how soon, so when you said 'soon' I thought you could be going there VERY soon! :D

hyacinthus
January 28th, 2005, 06:11 AM
oh yes..it will open this year, but I dont know how soon, so when you said 'soon' I thought you could be going there VERY soon! :D

:lol: cos I am always doing things so quickly, ya? ;)

But, nice... can go to the library and see my home while I am there... :)

hyacinthus
February 3rd, 2005, 03:50 PM
Taken on 3 Feb 2005
From ECP :colgate:

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/775/haha1ia.jpg

Pengui
February 5th, 2005, 02:24 PM
5th of February

http://membres.lycos.fr/pengui/ssc/050205_kerrisdale01.jpg
Only 1 more storey since Rafflescity's post on 21st January, I think.

hyacinthus
February 5th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Merci! :colgate:

They have done up to 28th flr for blk 30 and 36. Only up to 26th flr for blk 32.

Pengui
February 5th, 2005, 07:08 PM
So they're building 29th on the left one... Nearly there :-)

RafflesCity
February 6th, 2005, 12:36 PM
hmm..I cant wait for the top feature to start forming :yes:

Worlds of Earth
February 7th, 2005, 01:19 PM
New condo developments are heartening because they seem to be leaning towards the HK-style residential towers that characterize its unique skyline. 1970s rectangular flats are a terrible travesty - if every flat were replaced by a tall residential block our skyline would be far denser and more aesthetically pleasing. Or we could go the NYC way - ornate art deco apartments several storeys tall.

Pengui
February 7th, 2005, 06:46 PM
I personnaly hope Singapore doesn't get too much of the HK style. For the residential I mean. Except a few towers such as the Harbourside of Highcliff, I feel that most of the residential supertalls being built in HK are very very ugly, or even disgusting.

Worlds of Earth
February 8th, 2005, 09:40 AM
I am referring to developments of the Highcliff/Summit classification. Although I think flats are still uglier than the average HK residential block.

RafflesCity
February 9th, 2005, 03:55 PM
The thing I hope for is taller apartments, but when too many are cloned they look quite depressing like those in HK

so more taller, single, block developments

The 3 blocks of Kerrisdale are ok, however next to it will rise 4 blocks of City Square apartments! (30 floors)

hyacinthus
February 10th, 2005, 05:50 PM
10 Feb 2005
Kerrisdale Viewed from Istana

http://img99.exs.cx/img99/6852/kerr2kj.jpg

Edit: Remove "Building" :D

redstone
February 10th, 2005, 05:54 PM
Istana only la! :lol: :D

One-word name, two-word address.
Istana, Orchard Road.

No house number! :D

RafflesCity
February 10th, 2005, 06:00 PM
wow..thats a very clear view! :eek:

hyacinthus
February 10th, 2005, 06:06 PM
Istana only la! :lol: :D

One-word name, two-word address.
Istana, Orchard Road.

No house number! :D

:sleepy: Redstone, why don't you pick up the call? :(

redstone
February 10th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Why, what's up?

hyacinthus
February 10th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Why, what's up?

so fierce... want to ask you about the 19th Feb Meetup. On or Off? :)

redstone
February 10th, 2005, 06:19 PM
Ohoh...kk...

One of these days, I'm going for a walk-in job interview...
So.....

hyacinthus
February 10th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Ohoh...kk...

One of these days, I'm going for a walk-in job interview...
So.....

Meaning? OK to meet on 19th Feb?

Pengui
February 21st, 2005, 10:01 AM
19th February

Night shot from Textile Centre ;-)
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengui/ssc/050219_textile_centre04.jpg

hyacinthus
February 21st, 2005, 10:03 AM
hehe... ;)

Pengui
March 12th, 2005, 06:22 AM
9th March

http://membres.lycos.fr/pengui/ssc/050309_kerrisdale01.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/pengui/ssc/050309_kerrisdale02.jpg

Pengui
March 12th, 2005, 06:24 AM
Ah, and they said the showflat (real one) will open by the end of the month.

RafflesCity
March 12th, 2005, 12:57 PM
I like the creamy texture

surprised that they havent built a 'proper' showflat till now. Guess they still have lots more units to sell.

Pengui
March 12th, 2005, 04:44 PM
They have a proper showflat with a 3+1 displayed. Almost all the 2+1 are sold, but a large part of the larger flats are still available.
What I meant is that they'll have the showflats in the actual building soon, not in a temporary structure ;-)

redstone
March 25th, 2005, 05:26 PM
25 March 2005

http://img66.exs.cx/img66/6885/krdconst6rj.jpg

hyacinthus
March 29th, 2005, 12:07 PM
hmmm... didn't notice this update... :)

Anyway, someone told me TOP is only in April next year.

Thanks Red. ;)

Cliff
March 29th, 2005, 04:00 PM
Very nice! And tall too!

RafflesCity
April 1st, 2005, 01:15 PM
1 April 2005

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/434/kerris01043cl.jpg

redstone
April 1st, 2005, 01:23 PM
Where did you go to today????

RafflesCity
April 1st, 2005, 01:26 PM
I took lots of pics of something that you might like :D

but will upload later..

hyacinthus
April 1st, 2005, 04:31 PM
1 April 2005

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/434/kerris01043cl.jpg

Thank you. :)

I hope to see the ones at Concourse too... why didn't you post?

RafflesCity
April 29th, 2005, 03:24 AM
oh I'll post later :)

28 April 2005

so slow!

http://************/4rq1aq

nolimit
June 11th, 2005, 08:24 PM
PIcture take 11 Jun 2005, all 3 blocks seems to be at the same level now.
http://www.geocities.com/unixxi/KER1.JPG

hyacinthus
June 12th, 2005, 04:15 AM
PIcture take 11 Jun 2005, all 3 blocks seems to be at the same level now.


Thanks, nolimit :)

I wonder how long would they take to complete the crown...

RafflesCity
June 14th, 2005, 08:30 AM
they seem to move very slow on this one

hyacinthus
June 14th, 2005, 08:38 AM
Should be in time to complete 6 mths before its expected TOP i.e. May 2006.

hyacinthus
July 19th, 2005, 04:48 AM
9 July 2005 - From Tiong Bahru Flats

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4741/p10006087bk.jpg

RafflesCity
July 20th, 2005, 05:03 PM
18 July 2005

the crown feature has been constructed

http://************/96hn5w.jpg

hyacinthus
July 21st, 2005, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the update. Passed by there before I fell ill, the windows are tinted green (if one does not see carefully, the windows are transparent without the protective sheets.)

Guess the developer has also completed the carpark for the second block as well.

This was taken in April this year in the showroom.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9823/dsc20808fp.jpg

RafflesCity
July 21st, 2005, 09:57 AM
cool!

a snap of the model :)

I'm not sure but I think theyre painting the blocks on the other side of my pic. They look whitish although I dont know what the final colour will be.

hyacinthus
July 21st, 2005, 10:04 AM
The developers are trying hard to complete by end of this year before its actual TOP mid next year. But, it seems the weather is not helping much... If I am not wrong, they had started construction in late 2003.

I think the speed is okay. Usually, condos of this size take about 2-3 years to complete.

The colour should be beige I think.

redstone
July 22nd, 2005, 08:39 AM
Very boring and disappointing design, I'll say....

hyacinthus
August 21st, 2005, 03:35 PM
21 Aug 2005

The protective sheets on windows are blue. Windows are transparent with faint green tinge. You can now visit the actual showhouse on the second floor. Many people at the showhouse today. Probably with the relaxation of initial deposit rules, many couples are talking to the banks' people. :)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4796/dsc84250fd.jpg

hyacinthus
August 21st, 2005, 03:42 PM
The crown is starting to take shape. I hope there'll be nice lighting on the top and around the perimeter of the site.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7819/dsc82391pq.jpg

RafflesCity
August 22nd, 2005, 02:32 AM
I hope the crown will have some lighting at night too :cool:

That tree in the planter looks cute :D

jchua76
August 22nd, 2005, 09:38 AM
In future, the new "private-developer" HDB flats are probably going to look like this.

What's the difference between a Kerrisdale unit and a new HDB unit (other than the condo facilities)?

Kerrisdale costs half a million $$ more, and you have to fight for the use of the swimming pool and tennis court with your neighbours (which will probably be upgraders themselves).

With the much-improved aesthetic, design and construction standards for HDB flats in the future, will there be anybody who'd want to pay so much more for a heartland condo, I wonder? Think the ECs and the 99year heartland condos will soon be rendered obsolete.

hyacinthus
August 22nd, 2005, 02:57 PM
@jchua76

well, if you are just talking about price and exterior facade, maybe you are right.

The differences are the eligibility (read HDB rules) and location as well as whole lot of other factors to consider which differs from one person to another.

I am underage to qualify for a HDB flat as a single. Exceeds the income limit if I buy a new flat with my partner. (Don't give me funny ideas like quitting my job.) I don't like resale flat. So, there will be a market. At least, I see 20something young couples at the Kerrisdale showhouse talking to the banks.

About fighting for use of facilities, Carribean at Keppel Bay has so many units. But, most times, my brother and I were the ones using the gym on Sunday morning. Many mega condos like City Square, next door to Kerrisdale, would have to contend for the use of facilities given twice as many units but lesser facilities.

ECs, most are very far away from cities. I think Nuovo is the "nearest" EC to town area.



If price is a major consideration, these prudent buyers would not even think of buying higher end condos/houses too.

jchua76
August 22nd, 2005, 06:11 PM
I know a married couple who are lawyers: husband is 30 and wife is 28.

2 years ago, they bought a nice high-rise 99-year leasehold condo in Bukit Batok, because 1) they exceeded the combined income limit for HDB; and 2) they wanted to stay near their parents who live in the Upper Bukit Timah area.

This condo has full facilities, new, modern, spacious, near the LRT, and is surrounded by HDB flats.

They bought it at $750,000, relatively cheap compared to 9, 10, 11 condos. However it is now worth $450,000 to $500,000. They recently discovered this, as they wanted to move to a nicer, prime location condo. So now they are stuck with a much-depreciated property which they are still paying high interest on. It is negative equity.

Thank god they're both professionals who work in big legal firms and can afford to absorb their loss, should they eventually decide to sell it and move to a new place. What if they were junior- or middle-management types who could just afford to make their monthly mortgage payments? They'd be paying the loan interest through their noses for something that has depreciated so much. They'd have many sleepless nights, I'm sure. As Hokkien people would say: heart-pain.

The above true story is typical of many 99-year leasehold condos located in the HDB heartlands like Pasir Ris, Simei, Bukit Panjang, Jurong, Ang Mo Kio, Toa Payoh, etc. Often their resale value drops like mad a couple of years after TOP, because market forces have shown that the demand for second-hand leasehold condos in an HDB estate is just NOT THERE, as there are so many new condos springing up everyday in choicier locations, or EVEN WITHIN the same HDB estate.

Armed with the above knowledge, why would anybody still want to buy a condo located in the HDB heartlands? If the couple exceeded the HDB income limit, wouldn't it be a safer investment choice to buy a condo in an estate that's more private residential - <it needn't be in 9, 10, 11> - like Kembangan or Potong Pasir, so that they wouldn't have to suffer a big loss in the value of their investment? This negative equity could mean that they'd be stuck with their white elephant for a looooong time.

My point is: beware of condos located in the HDB heartlands. As far as the developers are concerned, the market is there: 20-to-30 somethings whose combined income MAY NOT exceed the HDB income limit but who die-die must live in condo, and cannot afford the prime condos so have to settle for cheaper condo in HDB estate. The developers themselves are ruthless businesspeople whose aim is to sell. The buyers themselves suffer in the end.

hyacinthus
August 23rd, 2005, 03:12 AM
for me, I wouldn't think of buying condos in Bukit Batok even though there's nice greenery. Must live near city area (as well as near but not too near my parents) but outside ERP perimeter and within means. :)

I've too seen many cases of negative equity especially those who had bought private properties in the 1990s to even current years. Well, it affects even those in district 9, 10 & 11 too... unless they did not take up a bank loan. Who to blame? Supply of private properties indeed way exceed demand here when you compare to the early 80s.

Anyway the morale of the story is:

Consider all factors carefully before buying a private property.


btw, are you working for any financial institutions analysing property trends? :)

hyacinthus
August 23rd, 2005, 03:19 AM
btw, half a million as you said it ( :lol: ) for a 120 sqm 3-br Kerrisdale unit is still a good purchase as compared to S$423,000 for a 125 sqm 5-rm* resale flat next to Boon Keng MRT station. (Similar floor, location & remaining lease).

*5-rm means 3 bedroom + 1 living rm + 1 dining rm.

jchua76
August 23rd, 2005, 01:50 PM
btw, half a million as you said it ( :lol: ) for a 120 sqm 3-br Kerrisdale unit is still a good purchase as compared to S$423,000 for a 125 sqm 5-rm* resale flat next to Boon Keng MRT station. (Similar floor, location & remaining lease).

*5-rm means 3 bedroom + 1 living rm + 1 dining rm.

I actually said "half a million MORE than a HDB flat".

According to caveats lodged with the URA, a 120 sqm Kerrisdale unit goes for $650,000 or thereabouts.

Add to it maintenance costs and sinking fund contributions, plus a 35-year mortgage, you'll be looking at a quantum of $950,000 to $1,000,000 (at today's local bank rates). $1,000,000 for a 99-year leasehold non-prime condo which is liable to lose much of its relative value against similarly-priced (when launched) competitor City Square!

With competition from nearby freehold City Square (big development, big presence, lots of interest from sub-continental expats, lots of local attention in the market) in the resale market, similarly-priced when launched, developed by a more reputable developer and has better finishings and add-ons, I'm willing to wager that Kerrisdale's value will drop against City Sq's in the resale market.

In my opinion, Kerrisdale is neither here nor there. It occupies that price segment between the Boon Keng HDB resale flat and some of the choicier City Sq units, with none of their advantages. If your aim is to lose as little money on your investment as possible, buy the resale Boon Keng flat, or a City Sq unit.

jchua76
August 23rd, 2005, 02:34 PM
for me, I wouldn't think of buying condos in Bukit Batok even though there's nice greenery. Must live near city area (as well as near but not too near my parents) but outside ERP perimeter and within means. :)

hehe doesn't everybody? ;) Where do your parents live? Which ones have you been looking at? What's your budget?

I've too seen many cases of negative equity especially those who had bought private properties in the 1990s to even current years. Well, it affects even those in district 9, 10 & 11 too... unless they did not take up a bank loan. Who to blame? Supply of private properties indeed way exceed demand here when you compare to the early 80s.

At the same interest rate, your equity in a 9, 10, & 11 property will be less negative than one in a non-prime district, in the event of a property slump or a situation in which general Singaporean property supply exceeds demand. I'm not saying that there will not be any depreciation, but a 9, 10, 11 property will depreciate less, over a property in a non-prime area.

This may be a cliche (hey it wouldn't be a cliche if there wasn't at least some truth to it) but 9, 10, 11 properties do hold their value well. Market forces that determine prices of Singaporean property in general affect 9, 10, 11 properties to a lesser degree. Why? Because 9, 10, 11 properties are always in demand!

btw, are you working for any financial institutions analysing property trends? :)

Nope, as I have mentioned in the "Iridium" thread, I am not in any way connected with the property industry. :) It is a hobby for me and a great conversational topic when I'm with my friends. After all, a guy's life in Singapore revolves around cars, property, stocks & shares, food, women, sports, etc. What else is there to talk about? Culture? Art? Film? Music? Sorry you're in the wrong country. ;)

hyacinthus
August 23rd, 2005, 05:22 PM
I actually said "half a million MORE than a HDB flat".

According to caveats lodged with the URA, a 120 sqm Kerrisdale unit goes for $650,000 or thereabouts.

For a similar size + location + floor level, there's no need to pay "half a million MORE than a HDB flat". hmm... unless, you are refering to 1-rm flat. :)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5099/untitled11jd.jpg

Add to it maintenance costs and sinking fund contributions, plus a 35-year mortgage, you'll be looking at a quantum of $950,000 to $1,000,000 (at today's local bank rates). $1,000,000 for a 99-year leasehold non-prime condo which is liable to lose much of its relative value against similarly-priced (when launched) competitor City Square!

With competition from nearby freehold City Square (big development, big presence, lots of interest from sub-continental expats, lots of local attention in the market) in the resale market, similarly-priced when launched, developed by a more reputable developer and has better finishings and add-ons, I'm willing to wager that Kerrisdale's value will drop against City Sq's in the resale market.

In my opinion, Kerrisdale is neither here nor there. It occupies that price segment between the Boon Keng HDB resale flat and some of the choicier City Sq units, with none of their advantages. If your aim is to lose as little money on your investment as possible, buy the resale Boon Keng flat, or a City Sq unit.

omg... it will take me lots of energy to reply to all your replies. I'll stop here. I am more willing to wager that if I don't clean up and turn in now, I can't wake up tomorrow! :eek:

Pengui
August 24th, 2005, 05:34 AM
After all, a guy's life in Singapore revolves around cars, property, stocks & shares, food, women, sports, etc. What else is there to talk about? Culture? Art? Film? Music? Sorry you're in the wrong country. ;)

ROFL ^ ^
You're being harsh but that made me laugh ^ ^
Anyway even in cities that have everything about culture and art, isn't it that most guy's life revolves around cars, food, women and sports ? ;-)
(sorry for the off topic, btw :-) )

hyacinthus
September 24th, 2005, 02:30 PM
23 Sept 2005

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7914/p10300479pb.jpg

RafflesCity
September 24th, 2005, 02:49 PM
theyve started painting the fins on top...looks more 'cheerful'

Is it going to be pinkish? or creamish?

Pengui
September 24th, 2005, 05:45 PM
HDB-ish...
;-)

hyacinthus
September 24th, 2005, 05:50 PM
cream + green

hyacinthus
September 24th, 2005, 05:59 PM
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1511/kerrispa4cv.jpg

Cliff
September 24th, 2005, 06:07 PM
What makes the most sense when you buy a house? Make sure you like it, and are happy with what you pay.

My house's value has risen by more then $300 000 in the last 18 years, yet we are not planning to sell, because we love our home, and that is all that matters.:)

My condo is at the edge of AMK, next to Nuovo, but I can tell you, living where I am and living at the block of hdb next door is world's apart.

hyacinthus
September 24th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Is not surprising to rise that much for older condos because it's "cheaper" then. Not for most cases bought in the recent years to rise that much.

Nuovo is between a school and Castle Green isn't it? There's a FH condo?

RafflesCity
September 26th, 2005, 09:09 PM
thats quite an amazing view that residents will have :yes:

redstone
September 27th, 2005, 01:08 PM
Hya, which direction would your unit be facing? :cool:

Cliff
September 27th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Is not surprising to rise that much for older condos because it's "cheaper" then. Not for most cases bought in the recent years to rise that much.

Nuovo is between a school and Castle Green isn't it? There's a FH condo?

I know, but that was just to show that it's not always about the money.:)

Yes, Nuovo is there. My one is next next next to it.:D

Seasons Park, Castle Green
Far Horizon, AMK Hsptl, Anderson Pri, Nuovo

^ in site configuration

hyacinthus
October 22nd, 2005, 01:30 PM
Almost ready for TOP

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8966/dsc93279ki.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4981/dsc93288vu.jpg

rark
October 22nd, 2005, 02:02 PM
hya how many floors is each block?

hyacinthus
October 22nd, 2005, 02:05 PM
hya how many floors is each block?

30+1 cos PH is on 30th storey but it has 2 floors.

rark
October 22nd, 2005, 02:07 PM
oic.... i thought its taller than 30.. :D

hyacinthus
October 22nd, 2005, 02:10 PM
If you count the 2nd flr of the PH, it's taller than 30 floors. ;)

this pic is taken in early sept.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5959/dsc00474sx.jpg

rark
October 22nd, 2005, 02:13 PM
nono i mean like 36 37 38 etc :D

RafflesCity
October 22nd, 2005, 02:29 PM
very nice shots hya! :cool:

heres the view from the other side

21 October 2005

http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/2056/kerris21105ct.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hyacinthus
October 22nd, 2005, 02:35 PM
Thanks! :)

RafflesCity
October 22nd, 2005, 02:36 PM
I like the 'cheerful' colour schemes at the top :yes:

redstone
October 22nd, 2005, 02:38 PM
Hya, where is your unit facing? :D
Might be able to see my aunt's shophouse!

hyacinthus
October 22nd, 2005, 02:44 PM
face the city skyline. ;)

@RC
hehe... :)

redstone
October 22nd, 2005, 02:49 PM
Hya: Then can't see liao.

Her shophouse is along Jalan Besar very near Hoa Nam Tower. :D
Of cos I can't say which one... hehe....

RafflesCity
November 8th, 2005, 02:04 AM
7 November 2005

the crown is lighted up :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/RafflesCity/kerris0711.jpg

hyacinthus
November 8th, 2005, 02:13 AM
It makes a huge difference to the surrounding when top/outline of a building is lighted up. Must see it for myself. :)

I wonder if City Square would be lighted up as well cos it's 6 boxes. At least, light up the outline of the 6 buildings would be nice like Suntec City.

Thanks for taking this pic for me ;)

RafflesCity
November 8th, 2005, 02:15 AM
indeed...it looks inspiring, like a candle in the night (my friend said it reminds of the former Kallang Gas Works)

no problem, I knew you would be keen to see it :cool:

hyacinthus
November 8th, 2005, 02:20 AM
hmmm... look like it? I don't feel so. ;)

Aerial view of Kallang Gas Works
http://picas.nhb.gov.sg/data/tn_pcd/19980007238-8105-3181-1042/img0037.jpg

RafflesCity
November 8th, 2005, 02:27 AM
yah...I dont quite agree as well.

btw that old pic brings back memories of the area! I remember that huge metal cylinder...

Pengui
November 8th, 2005, 04:21 AM
Aerial view of Kallang Gas Works
http://picas.nhb.gov.sg/data/tn_pcd/19980007238-8105-3181-1042/img0037.jpg

OMG !!! Living in those shophouses would have been scary !!! ^ ^

redstone
November 8th, 2005, 08:03 AM
Where were the other gasworks at?

hyacinthus
November 8th, 2005, 04:38 PM
There is only one gaswork.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8111/kerrispano59la.jpg

hyacinthus
November 22nd, 2005, 07:22 AM
Shouldn't this be moved to Completed Projects? It has obtained TOP.

hyacinthus
November 22nd, 2005, 07:26 AM
Kerrisdale seen from One Marina Boulevard.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/672/marina16oz.jpg

RafflesCity
November 29th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Seen from the pod of the National Library

http://files.photojerk.com/RafflesCity/kerrisnl.jpg

hyacinthus
November 29th, 2005, 03:24 PM
:)

This is taken from UOB on 24 Sep 2005. ;)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3850/p10208539lc.jpg

RafflesCity
November 29th, 2005, 03:27 PM
very nice content....shows the variation of verticality in vertical Singapore :happy:

hyacinthus
November 29th, 2005, 03:31 PM
:)

The view from Kerrisdale.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7928/p10302145zt.jpg

hehe...

tweedledum
December 6th, 2005, 02:40 PM
Hi Hyacinthus

From the level of devotion you have committed to pictures of this property I am assuming you're moving in soon. :)
The model above does not include the six tall blocks from City Square Residences right in front of it.. which I think will block some of the south-facing units from Kerrisdale, esp block 30 and perhaps 32.
I am also considering getting a unit there too... we may be nieghbours soon :runaway:

hyacinthus
December 7th, 2005, 04:14 PM
not yet. still waiting for collection of keys.

welcome. ;)

You might be interested to talk to other Kerrisdale owners too.
http://www.singaporebrides.com/forumboard/messages/409/314396.html?1126852936

Pengui
December 17th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Taken today:

http://membres.lycos.fr/pengui/ssc/051217_kerrisdale01.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:11 AM
Swimming Pool.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1258/img2483a4hx.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:12 AM
Water feature.
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/262/img2476a2fg.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Water Playground.
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7803/img2477a4kf.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:15 AM
Water feature at entrance.
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9076/img2479a9gq.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:18 AM
Garden at 5th Floor.
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1841/img2499a4nb.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:26 AM
Driving Range & Putting Green at 5th Floor
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5213/img2504a2fq.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:34 AM
Badmnton court.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7724/img2505a5dv.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:43 AM
Lift Lobby.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6866/img2427a1hy.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:50 AM
Distance between 2 units
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6820/img2475a5zm.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 10:53 AM
Signboard.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5246/img2495a7ab.jpg

ctdpong
December 24th, 2005, 11:00 AM
:) Hee hee my unit.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8595/img2430a2jc.jpg

rark
December 24th, 2005, 11:11 AM
^^ wow.. thats nice :D

RafflesCity
December 24th, 2005, 12:49 PM
Great pics ctdpong!

Welcome to the forum!

I like the pics from the 5th floor deck..looks so green :)

hyacinthus
December 25th, 2005, 05:07 AM
ctdpong, you must have been one of the lucky first batch of owners in Blk 30 to collect the keys. Congrats! :)

Can you post views from your unit too?

Thanks for the update. :)

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 08:07 PM
Tks for welcoming :) , RafflesCity. And Hyacinthus, photos specially taken for you from the surronding view. Enjoy :)

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 08:13 PM
City View.............maybe can enjoy for another 2 to 3 years, and will be cover up :gaah:
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/3342/kerrisdalecityview006bf.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 08:25 PM
Another view with City Square construction
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7977/kerrisdalecityview12fg.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 08:38 PM
Kallang View.............Indoor Stadium will be blocked by Citylights soon. :gaah:
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/66/kerrisdalekallangview0nf.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 08:56 PM
City View-Orchard-Thomson View
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/437/kerrisdalelittleindiaview16ut.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:09 PM
Thomson-Toa Payoh View
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/7080/kerrisdalethomson3vp.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:20 PM
More photos inside Kerrisdale:
Tennis courts, Garden
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/5800/img26537ml.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:23 PM
Swimming pool taken from Garden
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/6084/img26581bw.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:26 PM
1/4 Basket Ball Court, Driving range
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/6524/img26554rj.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:29 PM
Putting
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/60/img26612wn.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:33 PM
Driving range
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/5538/img26631jw.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:34 PM
One of the BBQ pits
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/6334/img26650rr.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:36 PM
All Green........
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/5235/img26671hz.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:37 PM
Entrance to condo from 3rd level car park
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4193/img26707eo.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:47 PM
More BBQ pits
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/5623/bbq8gy.jpg

ctdpong
January 1st, 2006, 09:49 PM
Water playground........look quite fun to me :banana:
http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/6177/img26726nd.jpg

hyacinthus
January 2nd, 2006, 02:40 AM
beautifully taken!

Did you spend New Year's Eve at Kerrisdale? I wanted too... however, I have yet receive any news about the keys...

Do you know you can see fireworks at Esplanade and Mount Faber happening at the same time close to one another?! :eek:

Don't think too much about those condos blocking the city view/National Stadium. I think you've got a great unit. Good panoramic views! Can see Orchard Turn too. :)

Happy New Year to You!

redstone
January 2nd, 2006, 03:42 AM
Amazing views!!!

RafflesCity
January 2nd, 2006, 03:00 PM
amazing view indeed!

must be so cool at night :cool:

ctdpong
January 2nd, 2006, 06:03 PM
beautifully taken!

Did you spend New Year's Eve at Kerrisdale? I wanted too... however, I have yet receive any news about the keys...

Do you know you can see fireworks at Esplanade and Mount Faber happening at the same time close to one another?! :eek:

Don't think too much about those condos blocking the city view/National Stadium. I think you've got a great unit. Good panoramic views! Can see Orchard Turn too. :)

Happy New Year to You!

Can't spend there cause have not installed the lightings yet.........must use candles :) , so end up went KL to see fireworks.
Anyway, I guess you will be getting your keys very soon, as my friend just got her keys, and let me took some shots from her unit(which facing the Thomson area).

redstone
January 2nd, 2006, 07:34 PM
I can see Kerrisdale from my aunt's shophouse's rear balcony. :colgate: :cool:

Really a giant admist dwarves. :cool:

hyacinthus
January 3rd, 2006, 02:31 PM
Can't spend there cause have not installed the lightings yet.........must use candles :) , so end up went KL to see fireworks.
Anyway, I guess you will be getting your keys very soon, as my friend just got her keys, and let me took some shots from her unit(which facing the Thomson area).

I certainly hope so... Still no news...

your friend got PH unit in Blk 30? wow!

hyacinthus
January 20th, 2006, 05:28 PM
19 Jan 2006
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7031/dsc99385cu.jpg

hyacinthus
January 21st, 2006, 04:52 PM
20 Jan 2006

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1423/dsc99085nr.jpg

RafflesCity
January 30th, 2006, 12:14 PM
Really a giant admist dwarves. :cool:

Its gigantic compared to the shophouses, yet looks graceful:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1822/kerris30015hg.jpg

hyacinthus
January 30th, 2006, 04:04 PM
I like its views. :)

An example
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1613/dsc00518fl.jpg

rark
February 1st, 2006, 04:12 PM
^^ Whoa. the view is real good !

hyacinthus
February 1st, 2006, 04:49 PM
Viewing the real thing is more mesmerizing... :)

More of its views...

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/664/kerrisdalepano2qo.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7508/dsc00250bg.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7310/dsc00278gm.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9551/dsc00287bx.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3048/myview6th.jpg

I will take the Novena views next time. :)

redstone
February 1st, 2006, 04:58 PM
Hya, moved in already? :D