View Full Version : Debate: Would a north african style revolution succeed in DRC?


preme3000
March 17th, 2011, 01:28 AM
Wanted to discuss the possble outcomes of such action. I have been one of the biggest advocates of such action since I was a child up until now I still feel it is the only choice in gaining our true independence. Freedom or death, but how willing how we or am I if I am sitting thousands of miles away from home on the computer?

What are the possible outcomes? What are the pros and cons? Is the ground ripe for such action? Are the people ready to fight? Are the diaspora ready to go back and lend a hand or finance things from abroad? Which countries will be for and against a change of structure?

The pros;

1) It has got to the stage where there is almost nothing to lose anymore, people will only be oppressed for so long before they take matters into their own hands

2) New start, like when Kabila Snr took power there was new hope, the country was starting to get more organised. Country actually became more united and plans were in place to organise the army.

3) Any change has go to be better than no change from this current disgusting situation, a sick sense of so called "democracy" where votes and alliances were bought

The cons against such action as far as the DRC is concerned in my opionion are as follows;

1) DRC lacks strong established institutions or even just one strong enough institution that can hold the country together. Using the example of Egypt, the army were able to quickly step in and play a stabilising factor during the whole chaos period and maintain the intergrity of the territorry from potential rebel groups forming.

2) Lack of obvious leaders - although there are many very capable Congolese doing great things around the world such as doctors all around southern Africa, it appears that there is a lack of real leaders within DRC itself and those that have it lack the opportunities to exploit their talents. Every revolution needs direction and without leadership, a potential revolution could transform into an all out civil war.

3) Neighbouring countries may see this as another opportunity to step in and control some more startegic territorry.

4)A revolution could create too big a power vacuum that the country could split into sections although part of the country is ungovernable the country at present is at least stable in most parts.

Can't really think of anything else but wanted to create a debate.

BUTEMBO21
March 17th, 2011, 03:14 AM
We lack leaders to lead such a revolution.

Saint Maur
March 17th, 2011, 11:01 AM
No, congo mostly lack an educated and graduated middle class with access to the world's news .

Otherwise, a revolution 's obviously possible, but it will not be the same than those in North Africa recently.

Pius
March 17th, 2011, 03:38 PM
The current situation in the DRC has generated – and rightly so – a deep sense of frustration, anger and betrayal with the ruling establishment. However, we must not fool ourselves in believing that democracy, or for that matter stability and prosperity in society originate by spontaneous generation. Prosperity, stability and democracy – if the latter can be considered to be a prerequisite for the former – are a slow and painful process. They are the result of a collective empirical experience.

In my opinion, the DRC does not need a kind of revolution taking place in Northern Africa because it finds itself already on the path towards democracy. Granted, its political establishment is sub-standard, to put it mildly; its political institutions are still weak, but it is a normal state of affairs since it is only the beginning of a long process. For a political system to be stable, it must have historical roots; i.e., it has to go through a consolidation stage, which is the case in the DRC.

A revolution would be justified if it would allow for an emergence of a new breed of leaders who will “revolutionize” the political business in the DRC. Is this a realistic perspective? The answer is no. We would most certainly witness the emergence a breed of politicians like those humoristically described by George Orwell in his famous anti-communist pamphlet “The Animal Farm”. Upon assuming power, they would most probably start to claim that “all animals (Congolese) are equal, but some (they) are more equal than the others.”

As far as other probable negative consequences of a revolution in the DRC are concerned, I fully agree with Preme3000.

MY SOLUTION: press on with societal reform through civic empowerment at a grass root level. We need to transform the people into genuine CITIZENS, whose relentless political and social engagement will instil probity and responsibility into the ruling establishment. I strongly believe in social reform, not in revolutions.

Mulopwe
March 17th, 2011, 05:11 PM
DRC is too weak. Such a revolution may lead to partition .... not a good idea at all.

Agreed with Puis;Civic empowerment and social engagement seems to be a better solution.

Mulopwe

xJamaax
March 19th, 2011, 03:44 PM
It will be very hard especially if the tribes are not united and may turn into a disaster(civil war):dunno:

BUTEMBO21
March 19th, 2011, 04:30 PM
Of course a revolution needs most of the country to unite. Otherwise, a civl war is inevitable.

xJamaax
March 19th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Of course a revolution needs most of the country to unite. Otherwise, a civl war is inevitable.
These tribal stuff keeps Africa down,people need to go beyond it and see development as the most important.Some tribes have no problem with some incompetent leaders and they only see them as their tribal representatives:)

BUTEMBO21
March 19th, 2011, 09:42 PM
These tribal stuff keeps Africa down,people need to go beyond it and see development as the most important.

In this country, its not tribal stuff. Its political parties. in 1996 more than 90% welcomed Mzee Kabila. Didn't matter what tribe he is from.

In the 1980s, most people supposed the opposition leader opposing Mobutu. Again, most people didn't care about his tribe.

Joe Kabila was heavily voted by 4 provinces ( outside his own).


however. I'm not denying facts that we have these tribe/clan issues. We have them.

But when it comes to supporting a leader with stronger message; the clan issues are overshadowed.

Although our democracy is still just a baby.

Some tribes have no problem with some incompetent leaders and they only see them as their tribal representatives:)

Now thats a fact. they don't care if he is killing.:ohno::nuts:, he is still ours.:lol: