Mpower3
February 8th, 2008, 04:54 PM
It all depend on when and how much did you buy it for?
i bought it in june of 2005, have the prices gone up since then ? :cheers:
i bought it in june of 2005, have the prices gone up since then ? :cheers:
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View Full Version : #COMPLETED: MARINA QUAYS, 42F+12F+12F Res (Dubai Marina) Mpower3 February 8th, 2008, 04:54 PM It all depend on when and how much did you buy it for? i bought it in june of 2005, have the prices gone up since then ? :cheers: i love dubai February 8th, 2008, 05:29 PM Definitely, I remember in 2005 a sq ft was around 800 AED, now it is at least 1300 AED. Ossi February 8th, 2008, 11:34 PM to give an idea of german/european standards and luxury living http://www.villeroy-boch.com/ http://www.bette.de/ http://www.laufen.com/servlet/portal?sesid=-1&planguage=EN&ppais=CO&page=1016413365621 mackie1964 February 9th, 2008, 12:10 AM ^^Mostly made in China if not all :lol: rexdmx February 9th, 2008, 10:01 AM We also have properties in Germany with which i can compare it. When we bought from the brochure in 2005 we were promised high quality, luxury and modern European style but what we will now get is just old-fashioned, and a cheap quality. Just have a look at the pictures of the bathroom we posted already here inside. Let me know if you see there luxury ( independed on the construction stage) You can just compare it with German slaughteries. I don`t also understand how they rise up a building, starting on the ground and then finishing the ceiling by destroying the ground (tyles are already broken) again!! That makes the price of the aparments not reasonable. But don`t worry we are not in hurry, there is time enough to repair the snags. In spite of that we hope the best `cause we are not even able to change anything. [img=http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9003/pict3843ux1.jpg] (http://imageshack.us) wait till you see the finishing...i suppose the furnishing and the lighting effect would make a difference so dont worry dirtyharry1 February 9th, 2008, 04:37 PM Ossi, Dubai is not Germany... will take them decades to catch up if ever. Do not forget, the workers they (ab)use receive 200 US$ per month and they are happy if they were 3 years in school - which is not their fault. Actually it is a surprise that only bridges have collapsed so far... I visited the job site today, at least I saw 1 concrete pump and 8 workers on quay north. Maybe they start now doing something. Mpower3 February 9th, 2008, 06:06 PM when did a bridge colapse? i love dubai February 9th, 2008, 07:14 PM That was back in November of last year. Part of the bridge collapsed during construction. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7085597.stm Mpower3 February 10th, 2008, 01:43 AM oh yea i remember reading bout this a while back... its a shame how little those people get paid. :ohno: glover February 10th, 2008, 12:18 PM Ossi, Dubai is not Germany... will take them decades to catch up if ever. dubai does not aspire to be like germany or any other european city for that matter, nor does it see europe as a model to follow. thank god for that, otherwise, because of regulations/red tape/democracy, building something like dubai marina would take 4-5 decades, if ever, instead of one decade. even then, you would still have people like you bitching about the results. :) dubai looks to singapore/hong kong as a model to follow, and has been successful so far in doing so. you should see dubai today as in the early stage of what singapore/hong kong use to be! m2 February 10th, 2008, 03:19 PM Hi guys...finally I ve got my username confirmed...I was just a spectator so far but now I would like to add something, I believe it might be usefull... After I gave up on trying to get any info from EMAAR about the delay on the project I went to the site i talked to the resident engineer there. The guy was actually very helpfull and he said that the only reason for delaying North and East bldgs is the fact they have piers coming from the water. After Infinity site was flooded, new, very strict regulations about building around quay wall and in the water were introduced. Unfortunately, the contractor didnt built the piers before the new rules started being mandatory (like they ve done on the other side on EMAAR's monster bldg rising up from the water). That causes the delay of approx. 6 months on two short bldgs. That's why the contractor is way ahead with the tower and the podium. Now, the guy is saying that they ve got all the necessary approvals for building the piers and they will start rising two bldgs shortly. Let's see and hope that is true... rexdmx February 10th, 2008, 04:11 PM dubai does not aspire to be like germany or any other european city for that matter, nor does it see europe as a model to follow. thank god for that, otherwise, because of regulations/red tape/democracy, building something like dubai marina would take 4-5 decades, if ever, instead of one decade. even then, you would still have people like you bitching about the results. :) dubai looks to singapore/hong kong as a model to follow, and has been successful so far in doing so. you should see dubai today as in the early stage of what singapore/hong kong use to be! ...before the asian financial crisis?? ;) Ossi February 10th, 2008, 06:40 PM dubai does not aspire to be like germany or any other european city for that matter, nor does it see europe as a model to follow. thank god for that, otherwise, because of regulations/red tape/democracy, building something like dubai marina would take 4-5 decades, if ever, instead of one decade. even then, you would still have people like you bitching about the results. :) dubai looks to singapore/hong kong as a model to follow, and has been successful so far in doing so. you should see dubai today as in the early stage of what singapore/hong kong use to be! We don´t expect Dubai to become like Germany and that is okay. But when we bought from the brochure in 2005 from EMAAR we were promised "uncompromising quality, distinctive design for your exclusive apartment. Marina Quays: Live the high live". Thats the reason we pay that high price for this expected luxury. Imho it is unfair to promise high quality and distictive design, therefor demand the money and deliver poor quality and old-fashioned design. Mpower3 February 10th, 2008, 08:03 PM dubai does not aspire to be like germany or any other european city for that matter, nor does it see europe as a model to follow. thank god for that, otherwise, because of regulations/red tape/democracy, building something like dubai marina would take 4-5 decades, if ever, instead of one decade. even then, you would still have people like you bitching about the results. :) dubai looks to singapore/hong kong as a model to follow, and has been successful so far in doing so. you should see dubai today as in the early stage of what singapore/hong kong use to be! hey glover youre definetly correct on what you said, if this was being built here in new york city the project would take like 30 years to complete. i mean look at the world trade center site, those plans have been approved for building since late 03 and nothing is done still, theyre building burj dubai which is going to be twice the size in roughly 3 years. my point is we just have to wait and see what the end product is and stop the speculation. :cheers: Morrismarina February 10th, 2008, 08:13 PM Hi guys...finally I ve got my username confirmed...I was just a spectator so far but now I would like to add something, I believe it might be usefull... After I gave up on trying to get any info from EMAAR about the delay on the project I went to the site i talked to the resident engineer there. The guy was actually very helpfull and he said that the only reason for delaying North and East bldgs is the fact they have piers coming from the water. After Infinity site was flooded, new, very strict regulations about building around quay wall and in the water were introduced. Unfortunately, the contractor didnt built the piers before the new rules started being mandatory (like they ve done on the other side on EMAAR's monster bldg rising up from the water). That causes the delay of approx. 6 months on two short bldgs. That's why the contractor is way ahead with the tower and the podium. Now, the guy is saying that they ve got all the necessary approvals for building the piers and they will start rising two bldgs shortly. Let's see and hope that is true... Welcome to the forum M2. :) Funnily enough that's the reason SP said the start of work on Bay Central was delayed by 6 months last year..........so there may be some truth in it. carpetking February 11th, 2008, 08:05 PM @ Ossi bitte melde Dich mal per Mail : info@timeplacetower-dubai.com Tag_one February 16th, 2008, 11:50 AM For those who missed Imre's update on Flickr: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2247/2265987045_628b5b9d69_o.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/2265986719_3ea6f192ec_o.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/2266774886_d6bd693761_o.jpg Mpower3 February 20th, 2008, 03:12 PM does anyone think that emaar might actually handover the tower before quay north and east? it seems realistic that the tower may be done by the end of march. cugeneva February 20th, 2008, 06:09 PM does anyone think that emaar might actually handover the tower before quay north and east? it seems realistic that the tower may be done by the end of march. March 2009 ? If you look closly, the inside will still need a lot of work..... M7 February 20th, 2008, 06:10 PM does anyone think that emaar might actually handover the tower before quay north and east? it seems realistic that the tower may be done by the end of march. Emaar will hand over the Tower (Quay West) before the other buildings. but it won't be ready before May. cugeneva February 20th, 2008, 06:14 PM Emaar will hand over the Tower (Quay West) before the other buildings. but it won't be ready before May. IMO If you are lucky..... end of 2008 but I doubt Mpower3 February 20th, 2008, 06:15 PM Emaar will hand over the Tower (Quay West) before the other buildings. but it won't be ready before May. has emaar said something regarding this or its something that youre just assuming will happen? Mpower3 February 20th, 2008, 06:17 PM IMO If you are lucky..... end of 2008 but I doubt how long would it take to install cabinets? i mean the building exterior is practically done. from the way it looks i think may looks very realistic for the tower to be completed. as far as quay north and east i think end of 08. cugeneva February 20th, 2008, 06:21 PM Yes, the biggest problem is Quay East and North, no progress there. And like the Promenade no tower will be handed over on its own, only alltogether. My contract also says marble in foyer and in the master bathroom. The fotos in this forum show more or less a public toilet in a train station... good luck to all buyers of the "uncompromising quality" like myself. Yesterday I talked to a project manager on the site, he does not know anything about March 2008..., he said maybe March 2009... Only time will tell. Hopefully I will be still in Dubai for handing-over... I think the above should answer your questions :ohno: m2 February 21st, 2008, 07:08 AM I talked to resident engineer on the site and he said that there is an option to hand over the tower before the other two, they are considering that option with Emaar Also he said that they are trying to complete the whole tower and the podium part which is on the street side asap so they can later "add" parts of East and North which are overhanged above the water. Structurally that is possible because they have joint between two parts right at the edge of the podium facing the water. Kitchen cabinets for the tall tower are already in production in very big joinery factory, and they will start installing them soon. The good thing is that they finally have all the approvals for building the piers in the water and they actually started works on those. Once they come out of the water, 1 floor per week - 10 floors- 10 weeks hopefully... Btw, resident engineer's rough predictions are: -tall tower completed in 2-3 months -the other two hopefully by the end of Sept, worst case scenario by the end of the year Emaar's system is showing the handover date as 31 Sept 2008... Let's see... M7 February 21st, 2008, 10:24 AM has emaar said something regarding this or its something that youre just assuming will happen? I have a friend in Handover department,but he says as per their estimate it should easily have delay of 2-3 months. Mpower3 February 21st, 2008, 03:13 PM thank you M7 and M2 :cheers:. i get a straight answer from you guys. its very sad that emaar couldnt just say this from the begining instead of saying we'll let you know at the end of next month everytime i contacted them via email. jodbar February 22nd, 2008, 03:56 PM I talked to resident engineer on the site and he said that there is an option to hand over the tower before the other two, they are considering that option with Emaar Also he said that they are trying to complete the whole tower and the podium part which is on the street side asap so they can later "add" parts of East and North which are overhanged above the water. Structurally that is possible because they have joint between two parts right at the edge of the podium facing the water. Kitchen cabinets for the tall tower are already in production in very big joinery factory, and they will start installing them soon. The good thing is that they finally have all the approvals for building the piers in the water and they actually started works on those. Once they come out of the water, 1 floor per week - 10 floors- 10 weeks hopefully... Btw, resident engineer's rough predictions are: -tall tower completed in 2-3 months -the other two hopefully by the end of Sept, worst case scenario by the end of the year Emaar's system is showing the handover date as 31 Sept 2008... Let's see... I must say I'm highly skeptical on those dates. If you look back at the Marina Promenade pages, they were at about the same state a year ago as the tall tower is now - and they're still not handed over. Even assuming the interiors of MP were ready at end Jan as apparently was the case, this is still way off the 2-3 months (or even 2-3 months delay to 31 Mar handover). For the past year I've been assuming handover of tall tower of Oct 08, based on rate of progress in comparison with other developments. However, I've recently revised that estimate to end 08, which I regard as optimistic, and based on assumption of handover of tall tower before the others. If others factored in, I'm reckoning Mar 09, as per comment in an earlier post. However, Emaar are contractually due to give us a new date by end of this month, so let's see what they say....(mind you, then can still revise it ad-nauseam after that!). Imre February 22nd, 2008, 05:17 PM 22/February/2008 Marina Quays http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5017/imresolt065vl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4673/imresolt066eh5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8354/imresolt068rt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9083/imresolt079po2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Ossi February 22nd, 2008, 05:57 PM Hey Imre, we hope are feeling beauty well in your new home. (Goldcrest) :-) Thank you for the pics, we have been waiting for them already. Best greets from the whole familiy! Imre February 22nd, 2008, 06:13 PM thanks Ossi :) Stephan23 February 22nd, 2008, 06:52 PM Nice progress by the big one!! But what's with the other small towers?? Is that the core in the first picture?? Imre February 22nd, 2008, 07:25 PM yes, 2 small towers very slow almost zero progress. I think the main structure of the big tower will be ready mid 2008. Stephan23 February 22nd, 2008, 08:04 PM This sucks! Why they don't do their work on the other two??? :hm: :doh: Mpower3 February 24th, 2008, 06:05 PM hey imre i meant to ask you, which digital SLR camera are you using with what lens to take this pictures? they look amazing!:) M7 February 25th, 2008, 01:40 PM I was in Emaar Today and was told that the Quay West will have 3-4 months delay. m2 February 25th, 2008, 01:56 PM I was in Emaar Today and was told that the Quay West will have 3-4 months delay. Hey M7, who did you talk to? When I was there last time (sales centre, 8th floor in Emaar Business park) I saw that their system is showing 31 Sept as handover date for Marina Quays. M7 February 25th, 2008, 06:13 PM Hey M7, who did you talk to? When I was there last time (sales centre, 8th floor in Emaar Business park) I saw that their system is showing 31 Sept as handover date for Marina Quays. I was in Emaar's customer care dept for other purposess but when i checked with handover dept they said they are not sure when the Quay west will be ready for handover and the date is still 31st March in their system. however delay of min 3-4 months will be expected. I think your date 31st Sep is a logical one. dirtyharry1 February 26th, 2008, 05:45 PM We must all wait... nobody knows anything, EMAAR is like a lottery, and if they hand over west by end of September (2008!!) consider yourself a winner. On the other hand I doubt very much that they hand over west separately. Who wants to live on a 24/7 24h jobsite? dirtyharry1 February 28th, 2008, 09:18 AM I just received a letter from EMAAR stating that handover of Quay West will be on June 30th 2008. Delay was caused by East and North towers... all towers will be handed over together, EMAAR does not hand over them separately since they do not allow their customers living on a construction site. They are promising to catch up the delay on the other two towers... Mpower3 February 28th, 2008, 03:27 PM I just received a letter from EMAAR stating that handover of Quay West will be on June 30th 2008. Delay was caused by East and North towers... all towers will be handed over together, EMAAR does not hand over them separately since they do not allow their customers living on a construction site. They are promising to catch up the delay on the other two towers... i just recieved the email thise morning with the document stating that it has been delayed untill june 30th...i guess we finally got the answer we were looking for. :ohno: True Blue February 28th, 2008, 10:55 PM There is no way that the other towers will be finished this year. Around mid May you will get a new completion date. Mpower3 February 29th, 2008, 05:20 AM does anyone know how much the apartment would rent for if i wanted to rent my apartment? Mpower3 February 29th, 2008, 05:20 AM does anyone know how much the apartment would rent for if i wanted to rent my apartment? M7 February 29th, 2008, 09:33 AM There is no way that the other towers will be finished this year. Around mid May you will get a new completion date. I totaly agree with you. jodbar February 29th, 2008, 09:37 AM There is no way that the other towers will be finished this year. Around mid May you will get a new completion date. I agree with True Blue - they are taking the p*ss. If the started on West & East right away at standard 1 floor a week (but in parallel), they'd only top those out by mid May. Going by ALL other developments, it would take at least until end of the year to do the interiors, but more like another year from top-out (ok they're small, but there's 2 of them). If all handing over all together, I reckon final delay will be a least a year from original - i.e. 31 Mar 2009. (Did anyone double-check the year given on the letter :). Still waiting for mine). I'm getting seriously fed-up with Emaar. Just a little bit of honesty to their customers wouldn't hurt. dirtyharry1 February 29th, 2008, 08:28 PM And what if worrying me most is that when I am visiting the jobsite nearly all little indians (and there not that many) are sitting around doing nothing. If I was allowed to I would personally work there... M7 March 1st, 2008, 09:46 AM I receieved the letter but it doesn't say anything about handing over all towers together,so it may be possible to handover the West tower by 30th June. Lets see! Imre March 4th, 2008, 04:02 PM second crane also coming down rexdmx March 4th, 2008, 06:33 PM And what if worrying me most is that when I am visiting the jobsite nearly all little indians (and there not that many) are sitting around doing nothing. If I was allowed to I would personally work there... as what...? ;) dirtyharry1 March 4th, 2008, 08:28 PM ... as a worker on the 19th floor only... m2 March 5th, 2008, 03:02 PM Guys, photos taken from the Quay West, sometime mid January... http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2701/18012008192sy1.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18012008192sy1.jpg) http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2277/18012008187zs4.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18012008187zs4.jpg) http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9854/18012008193pz0.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18012008193pz0.jpg) http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9867/18012008194rj9.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18012008194rj9.jpg) m2 March 5th, 2008, 03:08 PM The progress on the podium and piers for the other two... I would say podium is taking shape and they finally started on the piers :banana: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7933/18012008195sn0.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18012008195sn0.jpg) http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3676/22022008248ft0.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=22022008248ft0.jpg) Mpower3 March 6th, 2008, 01:26 AM hey m2 how did you get access to go inside and take the pictures in the building ? m2 March 6th, 2008, 06:45 AM I ve managed to sneak in during off hours, I will try to post more detailed update these days dirtyharry1 March 6th, 2008, 01:24 PM Not bad... I hope they can catch up some time... m2 March 7th, 2008, 11:16 PM New photos taken yesterday... The view from the living room is really great, full marina view no doubt... When the new Motor Yacht Club start being operational, with all the boats moored there it will be even more pleasant There is a partial sea view from the bedroom and both marina and sea view from the balcony Balcony is big enough for a decent barbecue party I have to say that I am very pleased with the apartment in general, congratulations to all the people who bought 01 unit :cheers: Btw the white tiles in the bathroom don't look that bad http://i29.tinypic.com/2u90jys.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/15qrc4z.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/28meqti.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/nd22k5.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/s28f8j.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/16kc4zl.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/xms7xx.jpg m2 March 7th, 2008, 11:22 PM ...and of course the most important thing, the update on the progress on the Quays North and East and on the piers http://i26.tinypic.com/2djb1mr.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/svku4m.jpg rexdmx March 8th, 2008, 08:04 AM ^^ finishing is going to be good.. u'll see i said before that we shouldn't jump to conclusions when we haven't seen the finished product :lol: dirtyharry1 March 8th, 2008, 09:35 AM yes, you are right, the progress on north and east is pretty good! Actually, we should not bother whether the tiles in the bathroom are white or beige... we will live in the other rooms... Mpower3 March 11th, 2008, 10:22 PM hey m2 any possibilty you can get some shots from 20-01? =) thats my apartment. m2 March 15th, 2008, 09:19 PM Construction update on Quay East and North as of 14 March 2008... http://i29.tinypic.com/1zlau04.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2nqxjeb.jpg m2 March 15th, 2008, 09:34 PM ...and some shoots for Mpower3 from his 20-01 palace (which was not easy to reach btw) http://i25.tinypic.com/w30hi.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/2md2pt1.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/2lv0iue.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/a13gvk.jpg Caesar7 March 15th, 2008, 09:36 PM ^^ are these finally staying at 12 floors ? :) Mpower3 March 16th, 2008, 04:46 AM ...and some shoots for Mpower3 from his 20-01 palace (which was not easy to reach btw) http://i25.tinypic.com/w30hi.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/2md2pt1.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/2lv0iue.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/a13gvk.jpg m2 youre the man! thank you very much! when i come to dubai i will buy you dinner! haha... thanks again man i really appreciate it! :) jodbar March 23rd, 2008, 05:54 PM M2 - if you manage to get in again, can you take a shot directly down onto the pool area? Just off picture from one of your earlier shots. Cheers. m2 April 6th, 2008, 08:14 AM Photos taken on 04 April 2008 http://i30.tinypic.com/mazeax.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/166d6qd.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/kdmpnq.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/52f493.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2ecn2wx.jpg dirtyharry1 April 6th, 2008, 10:14 AM m2, nice fotos! At least we can see some progress. Maybe September 30th 2008 could work as predicted by Emaar???? June 30th is for sure not possible. When do they start to extend east and north into the water? m2 April 6th, 2008, 10:36 AM The crucial point is coming out of the water with 2 piers. I reckon without any problems on site they can do it in the next 4-6 weeks. By the end of Sept the tower should be 100% completed and I believe that concrete and cladding works on the other two buildings will be done. If we are very lucky they may do the fit out as well but to be honest I doubt it. So the hand over of the whole thing will be sometime end of the year most probably. There is still a small chance that they hand over the tower first but that would be really a precedent. jodbar April 6th, 2008, 05:11 PM Thanks for the pics m2. I agree with your assessment - handover end of the year is earliest likely, though they may struggle to fit out the small towers completely by then, so wouldn't be surprised if it slips into next. It still amazes me that they dared write letters claiming end June - do they think we're all complete idiots? A little honesty with their customers wouldn't hurt... Time they realised that 'customer service' is about more than just being polite on the phone. m2 April 12th, 2008, 11:20 AM Some shots from the marina They are doing good job on the podium and parts of the buildings above the podium...as I said before they are trying to do as much as possible above the podium while the ground works for the piers are taking place. Later on they will catch up with the remaining portions above the water I would say progress not so bad... http://i26.tinypic.com/257jgut.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/27xo0ty.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/2z9fryu.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/295g7xf.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/aywtpt.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/2efkj91.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/x3z9l3.jpg Beppe786 April 16th, 2008, 12:52 PM Are all apartments sold out here? m2 April 16th, 2008, 03:12 PM All sold out, nothing left from Emaar... Beppe786 April 16th, 2008, 05:22 PM how much would a resale unit cost here? im looking in the smaller 12 floor towers PAULDELVES April 17th, 2008, 12:17 AM AROUND 2000 PSF DEPENDANT ON VIEWS m2 April 20th, 2008, 07:48 AM Marina Quays 18 April 2008 http://i31.tinypic.com/291c0v4.jpg View from 11th floor http://i31.tinypic.com/286z6g3.jpg Quay East pier http://i32.tinypic.com/9jkms8.jpg Pool http://i29.tinypic.com/jrafj9.jpg Quay North pier http://i30.tinypic.com/2d9a1qp.jpg view from 25th floor jodbar April 20th, 2008, 12:28 PM M2 - how is progress on the interiors of QW? m2 April 20th, 2008, 02:12 PM They ve done the flooring, bathrooms tiles are in place, gypsum bulkheads and pretty much there. Electricity is done up to 15-20 floor, no fixtures in the bathrooms except the bath tubs so far. I talked to the resident engineer, he said that they are producing kitchen cabinets in some big joinery factory since February Ossi April 20th, 2008, 02:32 PM Hi M2 Thank you very much for your updates. Are the doors and the elevator just in? What do you think is the realistic completion date? m2 April 20th, 2008, 03:28 PM No, there are no any doors neither the elevators yet Btw, the building has just 3 elevators which is definitely not enough for 38 story tower. It seems that the tenants will be socializing a lot waiting for the lifts to come :bash: I think realistic date for handover of all 3 buildings not before Jan 2009 :ohno: Mpower3 April 20th, 2008, 06:42 PM are the tiles in the bathroom looking good m2? also, what do you think the resale value is of the quay west building with the 01 floor plans? m2 April 21st, 2008, 09:34 AM Mpower3, the tiles are ok. It will look much better when they finish everything, you shouldnt be concearned about that at all. Resale will be great, specially because people start making difference between different 1 beds just when they are finished so they can phisically see the difference in space planning and the view. Unit 01 definitely one of the best 1 BR layouts of all EMAAR developments (I ve done very extensive research before buying). There is one in the papers believe it or not for 2.07M. Thats not realistic price now but I would say after a handover 2.2-2.3M easily. ammaro April 21st, 2008, 08:31 PM Great pics guys. What do you think the view would be like on the side of the Quay North, with a tower coming up next door?? m2 April 22nd, 2008, 09:31 AM Ammaro, it depends on the unit position. I reckon if the unit is in the portion of the bldg closer to the marina the view will be good. If it is more at the back you will see more of the Quay East than the marina Mpower3 April 23rd, 2008, 03:25 PM hey m2, regarding the elevators, i think thats sufficiant. from what i see here in new york all new apartment buildings have 2-3 elevators as well and there seems to be no problem with that. so i believe having 3 of them is enough. also they will probably be high speed ones as well which would speed things up greatly. m2 April 23rd, 2008, 06:49 PM Lets see, but definitely its not as per the current Dubai standards. I am design architect and I ve done so many towers so far. The one I am working on at the moment in Dubai Waterfront is 45 storey resi and there are 6 passenger and 2 service lifts. These numbers are coming from the lift consultants btw. It seems that Emaar was too economic with this one...that meens more enjoying the common areas... Mpower3 April 23rd, 2008, 10:22 PM oh i see. well i guess well see how things turn out. which camera are you using to take these shots m2 ? m2 April 24th, 2008, 07:24 AM Nokia N95 :) dirtyharry1 April 25th, 2008, 10:21 AM We should not bother about nthe number of elevatos... since the tower will never be 100% occupied with tenants - like most of the towers in Dubai Marina... I am more concerned about the completion date... and I am very much excited what Emaar will tell us in May or June... Mpower3 April 25th, 2008, 03:34 PM yea as am i. so what happens if this is delayed past march?. in the contract it stipulates that they can only delay it up to a year from the original date of completion. for sure theyre going to tell us come the end of may that its being delayed until october or november. i mean i dont even understand how they came up with the end of june???? they shouldnt bullshit their customers this much. dirtyharry1 April 26th, 2008, 05:50 PM For sure they will complete before March 2009... I have not heard about any development where Emaar has paid any compensation or repaid the purchase price. The Marina Mall seems to be the fastest growing development, maybe they are using all the labour for that... dirtyharry1 May 4th, 2008, 05:30 PM Today I had a walk over the bridge to see the developement. It seemed that they are building a wall at the end of the stairs under the pool and parking podium towards the marina... is that possible? m2 May 5th, 2008, 07:35 AM That wall is one of the two supports which will hold the portion of the building which is overhanged above the water. Along that line there is the expansion joint which allows them two built two parts separately. If they come out of the water in the next two months or so they will definitelly complete everything before March 2009. I will give you the update on the piers progress in couple of days. I am also planning to go and talk to resident engineer on site since I didn't talk to him for some time now. He was really helpfull before. Mpower3 May 5th, 2008, 03:43 PM hey m2, in your opinion do you think they will have the quay west ready by june 30th or are we looking realistically december or january 09. emaar said they will be contacting us this month to inform as to what is going to happen. what do you think? dirtyharry1 May 5th, 2008, 04:05 PM Quay West they could for sure complete by September/October, but I doubt that Emaar will hand over Quay West separately. If they have completed the pool area by that time and if they only had to do the interiors in North and East it could be possible... m2, when is it good to get into Quay West in order to have a look into my appartment...? On a Friday? Mpower3 May 5th, 2008, 08:38 PM so pretty much june 30th is for sure out of the question then right? dirtyharry1 May 5th, 2008, 10:24 PM 30th June has never been a realistic date... in Emaar's computer system it says 30th September which could be realistic for Quay West. Dubai Addiction May 5th, 2008, 10:42 PM Ok, I'm back from my vacation (been a week to Egypt) and this evening I started working on Marina Quays, will finish it this week I hope (when I have time) http://i26.tinypic.com/2jg347a.jpg Hope you like it m2 May 6th, 2008, 07:58 AM We should consider hand over of Quay West end of Sept as a jackpot, more realistic beg 09 for the whole thing. Dirtyharry1, Friday is your only chance. Good luck! Thanks Dubai Addiction, we can see East and North rising on the model at least... :bash: dirtyharry1 May 6th, 2008, 08:16 AM m2, ok, thanks, will try this Friday... hopefullly Emaar's security is not reading this forum and message... I visited yesterday the Marina Promenade... and I am really impressed. I hope that the Quays will be of simliar quality... Opus 2009 May 6th, 2008, 08:31 AM For sure they will complete before March 2009... I have not heard about any development where Emaar has paid any compensation or repaid the purchase price. The Marina Mall seems to be the fastest growing development, maybe they are using all the labour for that... ^^ I was compensated for a delay of an apartment in the Majara Complex, and if I recall correctly it was a cash compensation or accomodation at the Greens. But that was in 2005, but the practise seems to have been discontinued. dirtyharry1 May 6th, 2008, 08:43 AM Ok, however I consider that an exception... recalling Emaar's recent developments... let us hope and see. Mpower3 May 6th, 2008, 03:30 PM oh well what can we do. complaining about it to each other will not change anything :) any new pics you can post up m2? Imre May 6th, 2008, 03:35 PM posted some new pics on the flickr, if you can please repost, thanks. http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157604913923663/ Mpower3 May 6th, 2008, 05:18 PM m2, ok, thanks, will try this Friday... hopefullly Emaar's security is not reading this forum and message... I visited yesterday the Marina Promenade... and I am really impressed. I hope that the Quays will be of simliar quality... my freind from here just got a flat from the promanade he just got back from dubai. he was telling me the quality is excellent and that the quays will be the same as well. :cheers: Dubai Addiction May 7th, 2008, 12:52 PM Marina Quays is finished now, the glass didn't work out very nice but I'm playing with that a little, hope you still like it! http://i25.tinypic.com/xp3n10.jpg m2 May 7th, 2008, 04:26 PM Dubai Addiction the first moment I saw your rendering I thought that miracle has happend...Quay North and East being built over night :) Can someone please repost Imre's photos from Flickr Thanks Imre :cheers: Mpower3 May 7th, 2008, 07:06 PM i looked at the pictures that imre had put up of the marina. i find it amazing how when i was in dubai last may that marina mall development wasnt even started and exactly a year they have built up the entire huge building and they cant finish up 2 buildings that are 12 floors. i dont get it. oh well. Ossi May 8th, 2008, 09:56 AM Hi durtyharry, please check your PM SandSlider May 8th, 2008, 09:08 PM M2 - That's brilliant with the internal pictures. If I could ask - at your option - could you show us the major views from the xx02 and xx08 units from any floor above 10? That would be great. These are also 1 bedrooms. I basically would want to see what kind of Marina and Ocean views (between the cracks in the Jumeirah Beach Residences) exist from these units. If there is any risk of being caught :nono:, injured :nuts: or told to shove off , no need to make the effort. But if you happen to venture in there again, that would be great. :) Thanks! dirtyharry1 May 10th, 2008, 10:23 AM I was in Quay West yesterday up to floor 19. There is a hell lot of work to do! No tiles in the floors, the tiles in the appartments have to be replaced, the windows are not completed, nothing in the bathrooms etc. The bathrooms look quite good! The tiles are ok. And the views are also nice towars the Marina Mall. Sea view is nearly zero, the gaps in the JBR are too small. Anyway, definitevly they have to speed up the work ... m2 May 12th, 2008, 08:03 AM Construction update as of 09 May 08 (very poor progress if there is any) :bash: Hey True Blue, can you tell from the photos of the hole with a piling caps when they will start rising the pier? :cheers: http://i29.tinypic.com/j83bbt.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2jwabm.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/w9vatu.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/n62tfb.jpg m2 May 12th, 2008, 08:11 AM SandSlider here are your views Marina View from ap 1102 http://i29.tinypic.com/2ib21oi.jpg Sea View from ap 1102 http://i31.tinypic.com/25ialc9.jpg Sea View from ap 1108 http://i27.tinypic.com/rhsnwg.jpg dirtyharry1 May 12th, 2008, 01:51 PM I really do not know why there is no progress. Whenever I pass the site there is hardly anybody there...or they have a sleeping break every 30 min. The Mall will be completed much sooner if they go on like that...:-) Ossi May 12th, 2008, 02:20 PM Hello to all Marina Quays owners in Dubai, its really unacceptable that there is no progress. Can someone find out what the problem is and could someone please talk to EMAAR or DCE? Thanks dirtyharry1 May 14th, 2008, 09:54 AM I have just visited EMAAR to get an update. What they told me is really ridiculous, they still have the information that completion date for Quay West is 30th June and for East and North 30th September 2008. Maybe we bought something that has to be completed by the owners themselves?:-) I told them that there is practically nobody working at the site - in comparison with i.e. Park Island or the Marina Mall. Of course they denied: "... everything is going well as scheduled..." However we should receive an update next week or the week after. If somebody needs to move in within a specific period this is really disgusting. Mpower3 May 15th, 2008, 03:52 PM so they are saying that they will hand over quay west before east and north ? dirtyharry1 May 15th, 2008, 04:17 PM They said, that they usually do not do separate hand-overs since they want to supply "all appartments and all amenities like pool etc. in one shot". However they are considering this as an option due to the fact that East and North are the reasons for the delay. You see, no clear answer... If you sit with them face to face you must be very relaxed in order not to harm or kill them... I had 2 beers before I went there...:nuts: Mpower3 May 15th, 2008, 08:09 PM :lol: thanks for the update dirtyharry. True Blue May 15th, 2008, 09:58 PM Construction update as of 09 May 08 (very poor progress if there is any) :bash: Hey True Blue, can you tell from the photos of the hole with a piling caps when they will start rising the pier? :cheers: http://i26.tinypic.com/2jwabm.jpg There is no obvious reason why this is not rising now. Could be some design related problem or setting out problem (the hole and piles are not where they should be) Again I must point out that I am speculating. :dunno: Imre May 16th, 2008, 07:18 AM 15/May/2008 Marina Quays http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8665/imresolt094fh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) dirtyharry1 May 16th, 2008, 11:05 AM By the way, what kind of appartments are on floor 34 to 39? Are there any penthouses? What appartments are on floor 28 to 31 (where suite 01 should be?) Does anybody have the original sales brochure? Would love to make a copy... Thanks in advance. Imre May 16th, 2008, 11:15 AM as I saw the site yesterday, the main structure of the big tower would be ready in summer but the 2 small towers still slow... Mpower3 May 16th, 2008, 03:38 PM dirtyharry- i believe i still have the original brochure at home. i will check when i get home and if i do have it ill make some copies for you and fax them to you? Stephan23 May 16th, 2008, 08:51 PM Hope the 2 small towers will rise faster if the big one is done!!! Only 12 floors each!! :ohno: Main thing is, they are rising!! No answer for this :doh: dirtyharry1 May 17th, 2008, 10:03 AM mp3power - thank you very much, well appreciated. I was in Quay West again yesterday, there IS some progress... they started tiling the common floors up to floor no. 10, also they are doing something on the ground levels. This tower could be completed in 5 or 6 months if they do not fall asleep again. By the way, it was funny, there seemed to be a lot of visitors in the tower... :) Ossi, I took photos of your appartment... will send them to you by mail. But do not be shocked, your appartment as most of suites 01 seem to be the last ones to be completed i.e. the balconies have not been completed yet like the other ones. Neverthelss, I am quite sure that this development will be very nice upon completion. Emaar is the best among the worst... FWIW May 20th, 2008, 01:15 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/rjia09.jpg dirtyharry1 May 23rd, 2008, 08:13 PM Good news!!! In floor no. 4 they started to fix the doors and the kitchens! Marble in the foyer! I must admit the quality looks very good!! The colour is very dark brown, nearly black, the oven, fridge etc. is from Whirlpool. There are also drawers in the kitchen which is not the case in Marina Promenades' kitchens. The breakfast counters are covered with panels and cupboards. On the balconies the walls are covered with silver metal plates. From my first impression I must say that the quality could be even better than in the Marina Promenade!!! Mpower3 May 23rd, 2008, 10:28 PM hey dirtyharry you think you can get some shots of the kitchen and such? by the way i didnt forget about sending you the floor plans i just havent had a chance yet to make some copies. but i will try my best for this weekend. dirtyharry1 May 24th, 2008, 08:23 AM Ok, will go there again next Friday to take some shots. How do I post fotos here? m2 May 25th, 2008, 01:47 PM Guys, it seems that we have some serious problems here... The good news is that they finally started building the Quay North pier, but the HORRIBLE news is that the pit for the Quya East is completely flooded. :bash: :bash: :bash: Anyone can advise the implications and delays please... True Blue, thanks for your reply Quya North pier http://i26.tinypic.com/a4c2rl.jpg Quay East pier http://i29.tinypic.com/2ikozh3.jpg True Blue May 25th, 2008, 03:22 PM They may have stopped pumping due to works happening to the left of the shot. I don't see any suction line inside the riser. Could also just be pump broken down while no one on site. dirtyharry1 May 25th, 2008, 03:28 PM Maybe they just flooded the pool...:-) Hopefully this will not end up like the infinity nightmare... m2, why didn't we meet in Quay West when you took your pictures... m2 May 25th, 2008, 06:35 PM I really hope that this is nothing similar to Infinity story... Dirtyharry we can meet next week, during my regular weekly inspection :) Tag_one May 25th, 2008, 06:51 PM I doesn't look serious. As far as I can see the wall didn't collapsed like the wall on the infinity plot. This hole is also much smaller than the infinity hole. So I don't think this will cause much delay. They probably need a new pump or need to switch it on :) Mpower3 May 25th, 2008, 07:35 PM hey dirtyharry give me your fax number so i can fax you copies of the floor plans if you need it still. dirtyharry1 May 25th, 2008, 08:35 PM My fax number: +971 4 8890323 m2, I look forward to meet you next Friday...:) If needed I can organize a pump... What time? m2 May 25th, 2008, 09:28 PM I will be there around 2-3pm... What is your unit dirtyharry? Ossi May 25th, 2008, 10:06 PM Hi Dirtyharry, Hi M2, thank you for your weekly inspection. Every Friday we are waiting for your report and pictures. On your way up to the 20th floor please feel free to stop by at 1401. Maybe there could be a cool beer in the fridge. We would like to join the inspection team during our dubai stay on 17th thru 24th June. Greetings from Germany Ossi dirtyharry1 May 25th, 2008, 10:17 PM My unit is 1901. Hell lot of stairs... But the interior at floor 4 looks really good. I am very happy... unless they are not able to complete it by October... OK, let us meet there at 3? Mpower3 May 26th, 2008, 07:34 AM hey dirtyharry looks like youre my downstairs neighboor :), my unit is 2001. if you guys have a chance can you take some shots of that too? thanks a lot guys! m2 May 26th, 2008, 07:39 AM Ok Dirtyharry 3pm is fine with me. Come in your working clothes, maybe we can do some work and speed up the handover :) dirtyharry1 May 26th, 2008, 12:30 PM Sorry, my unit is 1907, but I will be still living below you...so behave yourself when you are there...:) OK, 15.00h at the side entrance... will only have with me someting to drink and some cigarettes... Tightness May 27th, 2008, 09:48 PM Good evening guys, I bought my QW apartment from secondary market and heard that Emaar gave the buyers the option between two colors for the wood finishing, e.g. the color of the wood in the kitchen. dirtyharry reported that the color was darkbrown - nevertheless, did anyone of you had the options to choose between colors? Would be very interested to know since my interior imagination is based on dark-wooden interior. Thanks! PS: I took lots of pictures with my 10mm ultra wideangle from the 01, 04, 05 and 07 apartments on the 28th floor. Just need to upload them. Mpower3 May 27th, 2008, 09:55 PM hey tightness. yes they gave the option to choose between oak or walnut you probably have the walnut. this option was given about a year ago. so if youre thinking of changing it i dont think that would work.. Tightness May 28th, 2008, 01:10 AM Cheers MPower, what makes you think that I have walnut (thats the darker color right?)? Sure I cannot change it anymore? Mpower3 May 28th, 2008, 01:41 AM because i got the same thing for mine:) oak is the lighter color. i believe you cant becuase when they sent the forms out to choose it had a set deadline to reply by or they would just choose for you. but hey give it a shot and ask them anyways, you never know. looking forward to see the shots you have taken with a lens like that. we should be able to see a lot with that. Tightness May 28th, 2008, 01:45 AM No noo, I def want Walnut! Regarding the pix, can I send them to anyone who then uploads them here? Really dont wanna open flickr or anyother account .. Pics contain mainly Marina views respectively from the apartments and some of them have inside pics! dirtyharry1 May 28th, 2008, 08:51 AM BAD NEWS!! Just received letter from these idiots at Emaar. Hand over date: 1st March 2009 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Complete fuck up!! Tightness May 28th, 2008, 10:55 AM WTF??????? End of year, yes .. but 1st March 2009????? Ossi May 28th, 2008, 11:44 AM Welcome Tightness, we took some pics of the walnut and oak option when we visited the sales office at EMAAR business park December last year. They didn´t show it when we bought the apartment in 2005 at the Marina sales center but we found the samples in a secondary room in the current sales center. http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3281/pict4025ee5.jpg Ossi May 28th, 2008, 12:06 PM Some more http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1949/pict4026rr4.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4982/pict4030kc0.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9480/pict4036ay9.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/910/pict4038mu9.jpg Ossi May 28th, 2008, 12:30 PM Hello Tightness, I just used http://www.imageshack.us/ for uploading the pics above. If you want to load pics < 1,5MB you don't have to register. (Usage advice, just in case: Copy the direct link to the pic from IS to SSC and add in front and afterwards) Regards Ossi p.s.: What door will we have to knock on, in case to meet you and emaar ever hands over? Opus 2009 May 28th, 2008, 02:53 PM BAD NEWS!! Just received letter from these idiots at Emaar. Hand over date: 1st March 2009 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Complete fuck up!! ^^ That must mean Marina Quay North will be even further delayed, or did I read somewhere that all 3 building will be handed over together? dirtyharry1 May 28th, 2008, 04:10 PM Yes, they hand over all 3 towers together, North and East ARE the reason for the delay. They have problems with the parts extending above the water and stopped working...West could be completed within 6 months. BUT: In February we will get another update... bertos May 29th, 2008, 10:18 AM Hello Everyone, We are owner for MQ West 201. just got our gold UPS package:ohno:... I cant believe they did this. we have been going to the building every week on Fridays..at the moment we live across the road so we basically see the building everyday. this isn't acceptable at all. we had planned to move in as our current home that is on rent is due in September... West is almost finished, i believe if we all complain they actually hand over West apartments by October...Will that be possible? BTW, im up for any construction work in order to speed up the Hand over :). LCV11 May 29th, 2008, 12:25 PM What could be the PRO's and CONS of extending the handover ~6months? (f we consider price of the apartment as a factor) dirtyharry1 May 29th, 2008, 01:59 PM It is very easy: The prices are still rising and will be exploding upon handing-over (see other Emaar developments i.e. Golf Towers, Marina Promenade etc.). This means it would be stupid to sell now and buy something that is completed since you would make some profit on Marina Quays right now but at the same time you would need even much more money to purchase something completed that has gained all the profit upon completion. So better rent for another 6 months and keep the unit... Will check the development tomorrow again... M7 May 29th, 2008, 02:07 PM Emaar behaviour is totaly rubish! I'm going to sell my 1 bed! I can't wait no more! charlie big potatoes May 29th, 2008, 03:05 PM Emaar behaviour is totaly rubish! I'm going to sell my 1 bed! I can't wait no more! 2 minutes ago all EMAAR clients were raving about them bieng the nuts. Whats gone wrong? bus canuck May 29th, 2008, 04:39 PM 2 minutes ago all EMAAR clients were raving about them bieng the nuts. Whats gone wrong? Well, until I got my email yesterday, I was saying good things about Emaar too. Now? :puke: This has been handled terribly. I will register my complaints, but does anyone suggest the best method? i.e. Phone, letter, email, letter to 7Days? On a more positive note, thanks Dirty Harry et. al. for all the info. Emaar said SFA, so I came to this site and now feel better informed. dirtyharry1 May 29th, 2008, 05:17 PM I will also complain in writing to the "Emaar Customer Care Center" and I will also suggest to hand over Quay West separately. Despite being aware of the fact that they will not give a f... about that at least I can say to myself that I have done something. Others are invited to do the same... According to betterhomes the current rates are min. 1900 AED per sqf. I hope that this helps a little bit ... bus canuck May 30th, 2008, 07:37 AM I will also complain in writing to the "Emaar Customer Care Center" and I will also suggest to hand over Quay West separately. Despite being aware of the fact that they will not give a f... about that at least I can say to myself that I have done something. Others are invited to do the same... According to betterhomes the current rates are min. 1900 AED per sqf. I hope that this helps a little bit ... Thanks again Harry, I will do the same. Of course, I'm happy with the capital gains already made and we're very pleased with the view from our unit and the overall location. However, we had a renter lined up for the summer so will lose out-of-pocket money almost immediately. Furthermore, the way this was communicated to us was bush-league and the only real information we have received has come from this site! I know this is Dubai and as we have lived here a long time I believe our expectations are realistic. For this reason we avoid local banks and have avoided other developers. As someone else said, we believed Emaar was the best of a bad lot. If that's still true, the "best of a bad lot" is really shite! bertos May 30th, 2008, 08:41 AM Hi everyone, I've managed to get the story into property weekly magazine which hopefully might shake Emaar a little, but I suggest to do what dirtyharry said & all write a complaint about them handing over Quays West earlier at least we can say we tried! Mpower3 May 30th, 2008, 03:27 PM i agree. emaar has been nothing more than just a paper weight in this matter. to make a claim that theyre the largest developers in the world and cant handle a project like this shows that theyre not. im going to write a complaint letter as well. not that it will do anything but like bertos said at least we can say we tried! M7 May 30th, 2008, 08:56 PM i agree. emaar has been nothing more than just a paper weight in this matter. to make a claim that theyre the largest developers in the world and cant handle a project like this shows that theyre not. im going to write a complaint letter as well. not that it will do anything but like bertos said at least we can say we tried! The best thing is that all owners write a single letter together speedpete June 1st, 2008, 08:12 AM Does anyone here have an idea of what the maintenance fee is going to be at Marina Quays? (pr. sq. ft). ...and what is stated in the contract? If I recall correct, the maintenance fee was doubled for the Promenade when it was finished. Tightness June 1st, 2008, 09:45 AM I also would like to express my anger about Emaar's wrongly coordinated development work. If you guys look at the construction update in Summer 2007, you will see that in comparison to now, nothing much has changed. North and East were standing in the same way it is now, maybe some floors less. Thus, it took them almost one year to realize that their plan of "living above the water" doesn't work in the way they intend to. As such, Emaar is not able to deliver what they promised when many first-buyers made the decision to purchase. Since I intend to live in my apartment, I now have to extend my rent for another half a year (or more?), however, I reached my credit limit for the purchase. So how can I come up with another half year's rent (60k)? I never expected that developments would be handovered on time and therefore I estimated End of 2008 as the max. Estimated handover at End of March is a PR desaster for Emaar who might (assumption!) lose their dominant position of the luxury player with the "so-called" high end developments of other players in 2008. Nevertheless, since the Quays clearly don't have the standing as say the Burkj Downtown development, I suggest that we should focus on requesting for seperate handover of the West tower. Whatcha guys think? dirtyharry1 June 1st, 2008, 12:48 PM Absolutely correct. I have just sent a letter to Emaar expressing my disagreement and anger about that tremendous delay. Obviously the towers East and North are the big problem thus I have suggested to Emaar to hand over West separately. I have also to extend my rental agreement for the appartment (expires in Oct. 2008) where I am living in presently which costs me min. 70.000 AED. Thank you, Emaar!!! I am also wondering why the Quays is the only development in the Marina where the workers stop working at 18.00h every day... Let us all request Emaar to hand over West separately. Why the hell do the West owners have to suffer from delay of East and North? Maybe it takes these idots another year to complete these two towers if they manage to complete them at all?!? bus canuck June 2nd, 2008, 06:25 AM Harry, did you send your letter to a specific person or just the generic address? I've written my letter saying much the same thing and want to see it end up on the same desk. Thx dirtyharry1 June 2nd, 2008, 07:26 AM I addressed it to the idiot who signed the "Project Update", Mr. Ahmad Al Falasi. dirtyharry1 June 2nd, 2008, 07:42 AM My letter: Att.: Mr. Ahmad Al Falasi, Executive Director, Property Management Dear Mr. Al Falasi, I was really shocked when I received your letter dated May 27th, 2008. How is it possible that this project is being delayed by another 8 months? Do you know what costs are involved for those people like me who have to extend their rental agreements for the appartments we are living in presently? Obviously the reason for the delay are the towers East and North, whereas the tower Quay West could be completed much earlier than March 2009 – if I see the progress at the site. Therefore I strongly recommend to hand over Quay West separately from the other two towers. Why should all Quay West owners suffer and pay for the delay of East and North? I kindly ask you to take my points into consideration and to hand over Quay West earlier than East and North. I hope that Emaar as one of the leading developers in the world will take all efforts in order to minimize the impact and loss to their customers. Yours sincerely m2 June 2nd, 2008, 08:44 AM Hey Dirtyharry, How did you send your letter, addressed to PO Box 9440 or some other way or address? Tightness June 2nd, 2008, 11:08 AM Good stuff to see some "joined-forces" here. I really think that the separate handover is our only chance. It would be nice if someone has the time and make a rough estimation of the financial impact of the opportunity or even "actual" cost. Size estimation a la "Number of apartments in QW" times opportunity cost (rental income from our potential tenants) and / or actual cost (rental expenses by us). The product of this is the total opportunity / actual cost caused by the delay from Emaar to us owners. Assumptions to be make would be that both are more or less the same and that every owner is currently renting or plans to rent out.. With a rough size estimation what the collective financial impact is (we are talking about Millions) we would be able to confront Emaar and the News better. Human beings and especially the news like numbers more than words, even if some elements are built on assumptions we have to make for this exercise. So, how many apartments are there in QW? m2 June 2nd, 2008, 11:45 AM There are 7 apartments per floor in Quay West 3 x 2BR + 4 x 1BR = 7 units 38 floors x 7 per floor = 266 units (114 2BR + 152 1BR) Here is some very rough calculation Average rental profit/cost (excluding maintenance): 1BR - 115,000 AED/year or 9,600 AED/month 2BR - 150,000 AED/year or 12,500 AED/month ...when you multiply this figures with a number of units... monthly impact is 2,884,200 AED Delay of 1 year = 34,610,400 AED :bash::bash::bash: Tightness June 2nd, 2008, 12:17 PM There are actually 8 apartments per floor, with 1 more 1BR than you initially calculated. Now, when was the initial (!) handover date? Was that June 2008? m2 June 2nd, 2008, 01:17 PM Initial handover was March 2008 dirtyharry1 June 2nd, 2008, 01:20 PM m2, I sent an email AND I handed over the same content as a letter to Emaar directly. My contract states March 2008 as completion date. To all of you, please issue something in writing and please also push for a separate handing over of Quay West which is in my opinion the only chance/solution. As per my latest inspection last Friday all appartments in floor no. 4 were completed and they started to work in floor no. 5. If they go on like that, let's assume 1-2 floors per week, they could complete Quay West within the coming 6 months = end of 2008 which would be at least 3 months earlier. Of course they are working at the same time on the landscaping and common areas, garages etc. Mpower3 June 4th, 2008, 03:59 PM hey guys i also sent a letter of complaint. however there response to us is going to be that in the contract it stipulates that they can delay up to one year from the original date of completion. so im guessing nothing is going to change, but hey at least we tried! Tightness June 8th, 2008, 09:43 PM Hi everyone, I've managed to get the story into property weekly magazine which hopefully might shake Emaar a little, Hi Bertos, do you know in what issue this story is gonna be published? Mpower3 June 12th, 2008, 11:11 PM any updates guys as far as progress on the project? dirtyharry1 June 13th, 2008, 01:17 PM I have just been at the job site. Regarding the interior work they seem to concentrate on the common areas... levels 1 to 3 seem to be common areas with toilets and powder rooms and access to pool deck, dont know exactly what it will be. But interior is still done only in level 4!!! Very little progress. On East and North nearly no progress, still North is at level 4, East at level 7. Still a very very long way to go... especially when they remain working only until 7 p.m. maximimum. Also the villas are far from completion inside. But they are nice... Tightness June 20th, 2008, 09:31 PM Any updates from visits today? How is the interior going on? dirtyharry1 June 21st, 2008, 10:21 AM There is no progress with the interior in West, however Ossi and myself have learned from a site engineer that they received the permission to go on with North and East with regards to the marina part and indeed there is some progress to see... We have also learned that West is "more or less completed", the interior they will do just before completion in order to avoid any damages to the furniture etc. Obviously bthey learned from other projects. There might be the little chance that West will be completed before the end of this year and that it will be handed over before the other ones - subject to completion of the exterior work and common areas. We also noted a modification of the stairs that should lead directly to the marina below the parking garage like in Promenade. Now it will not directly lead downwards, they built up a very ugly wall and just in front of it are the stairs... for sure they have miscalculated the distance... from the uper deck to the marina walk. glover June 21st, 2008, 01:01 PM today - work has resumed in the east tower (for those who like fog, we have sand storms here. you can't tell the difference if you are indoors) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2944/img0126mv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2944/img0126mv1.dd62e7137e.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=515&i=img0126mv1.jpg) Tightness June 21st, 2008, 01:56 PM Thanks for the update guys! Ossi June 26th, 2008, 08:02 PM some pics from the 4th floor taken a few days ago http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1613/pict4350rb2.jpg http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1984/pict4351is0.jpg http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6008/pict4352kw5.jpg http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5844/pict4353dz2.jpg http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6425/pict4356rm8.jpg http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/536/pict4357ss3.jpg http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/74/pict4360bb5.jpg Ossi June 26th, 2008, 11:04 PM http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8755/pict4363nm9.jpg http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9902/pict4368sg5.jpg http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/8175/pict4375yr4.jpg http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/3619/pict4377nr4.jpg http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7374/pict4385dl8.jpg http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3615/pict4386dw1.jpg http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4306/pict4388fk4.jpg Tightness June 29th, 2008, 12:57 PM Great update Ossi .. Does anyone have pictures from the mentioned kitchen? True Blue June 29th, 2008, 01:27 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2617692172_2cee15525f_o.jpg bizzybonita June 30th, 2008, 01:57 AM I can't see anything from emaar touches ... :( at least they can put two cranes not only one . M7 July 5th, 2008, 04:41 PM I have a one bed in Quay west,any one interested? Price 1.7 Morrismarina July 5th, 2008, 06:40 PM *** Ossi July 11th, 2008, 02:33 PM Hey guys! Any update? How is the progress on Quay North and East? Thanks in advance. Tightness July 11th, 2008, 11:16 PM I have been to QW today (haven't been for 6-8 weeks) and I must say that progress is very slow. Admittedly, I haven't been higher than the 4th floor since I wanted to have a look on the kitchen. However, this might be explained by what someone else said above, if completion date is 03/09 it doesn't make sense to install already anything there. Internal lifts are under construction inside but couldn't figure out if they are already working. Ground levels are not tiled yet but then again, I don't know if this is to be done at the very end in order to avoid damages. The other two towers also not much progress. The North Tower (I assume it is the one next to Bay Central) still hasn't got the big pile which is supposed to be in the water yet. There is a pump working 24/7 to get the water out of the hole. However, the big pile of the East tower has been inserted and looks stable. Sorry for this vague description ... Ossi July 13th, 2008, 01:25 PM Hello Tightness, thank you for your update. The progress seem to be very slow. How much floors of East are done? Did they start to connect the main building with big pile? We think the completion date 03/09 will become impossible because of the slow progress. Greetings from Germany Tightness July 13th, 2008, 03:46 PM Didn't count the number of floors for North and East, a recent picture from Imre or so should reveal the current state. One thing for sure, none of the two buildings have been attached to the big pile nor it has been attempted to do so ... dirtyharry1 July 13th, 2008, 03:58 PM And now there is summer where everything will be even slower. March 2009 seems to be far away but watching the progress turns it very near... If they will go on like that I will consider selling and buying something completed. Mpower3 July 15th, 2008, 03:42 PM any new pictures anyone can put up?? Ossi July 17th, 2008, 09:19 AM hallo an alle DE Quay Westler wenn schon deutsch, dann bei unserem Tower!!!!! vieleicht gibt es ja noch mehr Deutsche , dann könnten wir mal geballt bei emaar auftreten denn langsam nervt es tierisch!!!!!! Am burj dubai treten sich die Arbeiter gegenseitig tot und an der Marina musst du sie suchen. Der Emaar Fritze im Baubüro von den Quays sagte uns doch tatsächlich er habe keine Genehmigung um nachts zu arbeiten. Bin z.Zt. in DE. Wollte eigentlich in den nächsten Monaten zur Übergabe kommen. Das könnte abe auch noch Jahre dauern. Gerne können wir uns treffen, wenn ich mal wieder unten bin. Bis bald persönlich Ossi Tightness July 17th, 2008, 09:27 AM Am glad to see that there are a couple of Germans holding up the flag among the many Brits we have here. In any case - and regardless of nationality - if anyone wants to meet up in the future, I am in.. :) Tightness July 17th, 2008, 09:36 AM View from a 07 Apartment high floor ... Fantastic view for an apartment that is so set-back .. Bay Central will not obstruct the view towards 6 towers... :) http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6527/tempafz9.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tempafz9.jpg) Living Room with the 07 apartment with window front towards Marina.. What I don't like is that Emaar didn't pull down the windows to the floor or at least almost down to it as it is for instance on the 04 apartment http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2459/tempclk3.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tempclk3.jpg) View from 04 Apartment towards the Marine Club, also very nice http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1509/tempblx2.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tempblx2.jpg) FYI, pictures were taken 4-6 weeks ago, so pls don't look for any updates on them, otherwise you gonna be shocked.. dirtyharry1 July 17th, 2008, 01:12 PM Tightness, where are you from? Will be back in Dubai on July 22nd to see the progress, hahaha!!!! Yes, you are right, the windows in the living room of App. 07 look a little bit strange... fuck, maybe I will never live there because they do not proceed... We can also meet next Friday at the job site if you wish. Ossi, wenn die Typen nur tagsüber arbeiten würden, dann aber dafür volle Kalotte, würden sie auch fertig werden, aber mit den paar Nasebohrern da wird gar nix fertig... da gíb ts sogar auf den Baustellen hier in Dtl. mehr Arbeiter... Tightness July 17th, 2008, 04:01 PM Vergiss nicht, es ist momentan sehr heiss und vor allem feucht, da fällste schon bei der Freitags-Besichtigung in Ohnmacht .. Is anyone confident about the possibility of the seperate handover? bertos July 18th, 2008, 02:39 PM Hey guys, we visited the building last week and not much work is being done. they are either taking it very easy or lack of workers since all Dubai Marina work force seem to be working on the Mall and the hotel... :bash: I also tried to talk to the contractor and all he said was "hopefully we will finish by March09":ohno: he surly meant all of it but he didn't have any clue about handing over West before North and East... We would be up for any social gathering to meet our neighbors.. :cheers: dirtyharry1 July 18th, 2008, 05:00 PM Tightness, Bertos, I would appreciate to meet you next week or so, I will be back in Dubai next Tuesday... Tightness, ich habe letztes mal bei der besichtigung schon geschwitzt wie ein Pferd, aber da muss mann durch... They "hope" to finish by March 09??? hahaha, good luck to all of us... bullish July 24th, 2008, 04:20 PM anyone looking to sell a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment? message me dirtyharry1 July 25th, 2008, 04:18 PM Just visited Quay West. They started now with the interiors in floor 5, 6 and 7(floor no. 4 is completed, all doors locked)...marble floors in the lobby, kitchen etc. At least there is some progress whereas East and North will take ages... they have yet not started with the second part of the buildings hanging over the water. The pier of East looks however pretty good...the North pier has not topped out yet at all. Ossi July 25th, 2008, 04:33 PM Hello dirtyharry, we are glad you arrived well back and have already checked the towers. Nice to hear they are working on Quay west. Is Quay east already connected with the pier? Is pier north already over the waterlevel? Did you have your meeting with tightness? Have you taken any pics? Greets from Germany all the Ossis dirtyharry1 July 26th, 2008, 11:05 AM Ossi, there is no connection on pier east, and north is not above sea level... Yes, I met tightness, he is a nice guy and in 2 or 3 weeks we will inspect again, because if you go there every week would disppoint you... We have not taken pictures since there is not much progress to see. We are seeking to see an appartment that has been comleted, then we will for sure take some fotos. Take care und viele Grüße nach Deutschland!!!!! Tightness July 26th, 2008, 03:24 PM What dirtyharry and I missed though was to go as many floors as we could in order to see which apartments are "ready". With ready we mean, putting tiles, windows fixed, wardrobe and kitchen installen (however without appliances).. I think we went up to the 6th floor and it was done there. Beppe786 July 31st, 2008, 01:54 PM Quay North and East is 12 floors how tall in total including the base Podium Mpower3 August 6th, 2008, 06:23 PM hey guys. any new updates? SandSlider August 14th, 2008, 12:59 AM Has anyone received their statement of account and had any interest charges or late fees? dirtyharry1 August 14th, 2008, 07:58 AM I received it yesterday but there were not any charges or interest. Tomorrow I will visit the job site... Mpower3 August 14th, 2008, 06:09 PM hey dirtyharry, when you go tomorrow can you take some pics if its possible? thank you in advance. djb August 14th, 2008, 09:02 PM Has anyone received their statement of account and had any interest charges or late fees? Yes I got a statement with a 'late payment' charge included, which was a suprise. Anyway I questioned it and Emaar have cancelled it. dirtyharry1 August 16th, 2008, 12:18 PM Update 15.08.08 The pier of Quay East looks quite good, it has already been painted (!) I think in the coming week it should have the right height so they can start with the connection to the existing part of the building. They have reached floor 10 on East and floor 9 on North. In general it seems that they finally make some progress. In Quay West they have started with the kitchen cabinets, doors etc. up to floor 24, also the marble floors in the lobbies are there. Floor no. 4 is still the only one that has been 100% comleted yet. Unfortunately all doors there are locked. In floor 4 they have also painted the walls (beige/yellow) in the common areas and stairways and they have made some wooden panelling around the elevators' doors, looks quite nice, similar to the Golf Towers. Elevators seem to be installed. I think it will turn out very nice. However all of us should pray to Allah every day that they will not delay beyond 1st March 2009... it is still a long way to go... especially on the second parts of East and North. Tightness August 17th, 2008, 02:46 AM In Quay West they have started with the kitchen cabinets, doors etc. up to floor 24, Don't tell me you walked up that high! ;) Skyscraperneighbor August 17th, 2008, 02:50 AM Can Someone Tell Me Which Side The Water Is On....? http://i37.tinypic.com/34ovx4k.jpg Tightness August 17th, 2008, 01:48 PM Water is on the right side, in ur illustration apartment numbers 01 and 10 directly above the water.. Skyscraperneighbor August 17th, 2008, 05:41 PM ^^Thanks Imre August 17th, 2008, 06:14 PM oustide elevator of the Quey West was removed. Tightness August 17th, 2008, 09:04 PM what a pity, I loved that elevator, rode a couple of times with it .. thrilling! ;) dirtyharry1 August 18th, 2008, 09:00 AM Tightness, yes, I walked up, I think I lost around 2 kilos - mainly water :) But every 3 floors I had to do a break... Don't forget to pray! Tightness August 18th, 2008, 09:41 AM One question dirtharry, have you seen the same wood color (dark) throughout the floors or were there apartments which had a different wood color? dirtyharry1 August 18th, 2008, 01:16 PM I have not stopped on every floor but wherever I had a look it was the dark wood. But you are right, in Promenade some floors are different SandSlider August 18th, 2008, 06:52 PM Yes I got a statement with a 'late payment' charge included, which was a suprise. Anyway I questioned it and Emaar have cancelled it. Thanks for the info, DJB. I have also protested the charge but have not heard back yet. I did via email. Maybe I should call. dirtyharry1 August 22nd, 2008, 12:09 PM Good news!!!! Since last week Friday they have added one more floor to East (now 11) and North (now 9). But what is even better the pier of East has reached its final level and they have erected a scaffolding from the existing part of East up to the pier, it is one level now. So most probably this week they will start with the second part of East. If they can manage 1 floor in 10 days it will take another 4 months to reach the 12 floors > end of 2008. The villas have made some progress as well, same situation as West (marble floors, preparation of kitchen cabinets, wardrobes etc.). Completion by March/April/May 2009 could be possible if they go ahead with full speed... Dubaipots August 29th, 2008, 05:04 PM Hi, Has anybody on the forum also purchased one of the villas/duplex's in the Marina Quays. We have one of the roadside (JBR) villas and I have been up for a first look today. From what I can see the layout is completely different from the original floor plans with only two bedrooms upstairs (instead of three), some kind of useless study room downstairs and no utility room. Any ideas on what is going on here? Am I looking at the wrong villa? Can they change the floorplans as they see fit (and in the process remove a bedroom!!!!)? Thanks in advance for your feedback on this one. SandSlider August 29th, 2008, 09:25 PM Team - There used to be another site that I visited just like skyscraper city (and hope the rules here do not prevent references to competition ... ) but I cannot for the life of me remember or find that other *very* similar (but much smaller audience) website like skyscraper city. They also had lots of good info like here and the big diff I seem to recall is that people posted a lot more pictures. Has anyone been there or does anyone know what that site was? Over a few months I forgot its name and, when I decided to look again, I have searched and searched but now I cant even find it on google. ps.: Thanks to all the locals and visitors who have gone in and filed first hand reports and pictures. **MUCH** appreciated by me and all on this thread. Thorneyvilla1 August 30th, 2008, 06:57 AM http://i36.tinypic.com/nz0h9d.jpg Thorneyvilla1 August 30th, 2008, 08:00 AM http://i33.tinypic.com/i52kcj.jpg dirtyharry1 August 30th, 2008, 10:28 AM Dubaipots, usually they do not simply remove a bedroom from the plan... I cannot imagine that. Of course, EMAAR is only a little bit better than the other gangsters but that would be really a sensation. Maybe you look at the wrong villas, there are A, B and C villas. On your foto. the villas on the right hand side next to the bridge (2 bedroom + study), the villas between east and north (dont know the floorplan and the villas facing the road (dont know the floorplan either). But to be honest, so far I have never read ín the newspaper that the villas have 3 bedrooms - only 2 + study. UPDATE 27.08. They have added to east and north one more level, next week or in 2 weeks they should have completed all 12 floors. On East they started with some kind of basement plate for the part extending over the water. If they continue with the same speed I suggest end of 2008 for as a completion date for east and north - without interior of course. If they do not hand over west separately March 2009 will be a tough target... Tightness August 30th, 2008, 05:34 PM Thanks for the update DirtyHarry, next time we gonna get us up there again! Seperate handover is seriously needed .. OmarPERU August 31st, 2008, 12:13 AM Marina Quays update 30/08/08 Quay East is coming... http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/miusuario/IMG_4100.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/miusuario/IMG_4109.jpg North... http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/miusuario/IMG_4113.jpg FWIW August 31st, 2008, 12:50 AM ^^ Very nice update OmarPeru! Thanks! Tightness August 31st, 2008, 02:25 AM Wow, thats the first time I see East (or North) attempting to close the gap! Really cool! dirtyharry1 August 31st, 2008, 08:04 AM By the way, does anybody know where the pool will be? There will be definitely no sun in the afternoon, that's for sure...nice in July to September, but not so nice for the rest of the year. Tightness August 31st, 2008, 12:14 PM :)) If you don't know where the pool is, how can you know how the sun is shining? :) dirtyharry1 August 31st, 2008, 01:34 PM Good question:bash: It must be on the upper deck of the garage, but there is nothing to see yet... hopefully it will not be a childrens' pool like in Marina Promenade (depth 1,40m)... Dubaipots August 31st, 2008, 03:57 PM Thanks for the info on the villas DirtyHarry... I wonder if I've managed to get myself confused here. The villa I own is on the roadside (facing JBR) and I thought it was the two top floors with the bottom two floors being commercial/retail space. I only looked at the top two floors and not the bottom but I am wondering now if the ground and 1st floor are actually the 3 bedroom villas, as opposed to commercial space. Any ideas on this one? Thanks again! bizzybonita September 1st, 2008, 04:14 AM C/U 31/08/08 http://i38.tinypic.com/14azj7m.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/n3uicw.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/k1p85h.jpg dirtyharry1 September 1st, 2008, 07:24 AM Sorry, I have only been to the villas next to the marina bridge, these are 2 bedroom + study on 2 floors. But will check next Friday on inspection tour. Tightness September 1st, 2008, 12:32 PM Does anyone know why on the West towers have between the 28th and 31st floor on the 01 unit (the 1BR) these "wings" looking out? I have always been wondering ... dirtyharry1 September 2nd, 2008, 08:33 AM These "wings" are just larger balconies, otherwise the appartment type 01 is exactly the same. Tightness September 2nd, 2008, 11:50 AM Right, but is there any "reason" behind - dunno, could be also something irrational such as Feng Shui or Design .. I mean, why just on the 28-31 floor and not everywhere, why exactly these floors .. maybe someone has some insights.. dirtyharry1 September 2nd, 2008, 12:43 PM Hey... this is Dubai! Don't ask for reasons... you would only be disappointed to learn the "reasons"... Imre September 6th, 2008, 07:23 AM 5/Sept/2008 Marina Quays http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5540/imresolt081hb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Ossi September 6th, 2008, 11:21 AM Hey Imre, thanks for the great pics! It´s amazing to see the blue sky...... So you get internet already!!!!!???!!! Gratulations ;-) Best greets from the hole familiy. ;-) |