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One thing is for sure, without going there and inspecting the site you would have to rely on Emaar's lies with regards to completion date, and that would be really pissing off.

The upper podium deck looks quite different from the brochure and original drawings, the pool is now long and narrow. I hope that they will level the entire podium, otherwise you would have to look against the walls of the pool (from the other sides in the fotos).
But we should wait maybe 2 weeks, then we will for sure see the final layout.

i still dont even know where the pool is lol. can someone clarify for me please. thanks

i still dont even know where the pool is lol. can someone clarify for me please. thanks

its between the north and the east buildings. west is furthest away from the pool.

Nick

No, it is on the podium deck above the main entrance, just along the long side of West. It can be seen on the last 2 fotos from bluelights. They have finished the black foil and started tiling. There are some further water basins on the podium deck but the 2 pools are above the main entrance. For West owners it is the shortest way.

No, it is on the podium deck above the main entrance, just along the long side of West. It can be seen on the last 2 fotos from bluelights. They have finished the black foil and started tiling. There are some further water basins on the podium deck but the 2 pools are above the main entrance. For West owners it is the shortest way.

your right i got confused with the north/west buildings.....

At least the good thing about the rather lengthy shape of the pool is you could theoretically have some swimming laps ("Bahnen ziehen" gell Harry?)

I wonder whether I will ever swim in that pool...

OK, today there was an engineer at the site, he supplied the following expected completion dates:

West and podium by end of April at the latest
East by end of June
North by end of September

So, if they don't stop, that sounds realistic - more or less

17/February/2009

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Hi guys,
it seems to be lack of progress in construction.

They are finally doing some good work on Quay East. I was passing next to the site couple of times around 8-9pm these days and there were a lot of workers there busy with a first floor. That should be the last obstacle, after this midget tower start rising should be pretty straight forward.

19/February/2009

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Yes, am I also of the opinion that once the first floor has been completed North will rise quickly. The structure of East has been completed, 11 floors in total whereas the floors 9, 10 and 11 should be duplexes and penthouses. June for East seems to be realistic, October for North.

Has anyone asked Emaar to switch over to the new monthly payment plans for the remainder?

They are doing some progress on North - first floor has been completed.

On East they are busy with the interiors and the roof of the last (11th) floor.

Will do my inspection in 2 weeks again... hope to give some good news by then...

How are things going?

Yes, good question... any progress?

I am in good old Germany, will do next week the Friday inspection.

07/March/2009

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Thanks Imre!!

That does not look that bad!

On North they have done 3 floors so far, East could be completed in June... North maybe by October hopefully...!!!

When it is ready it will be a nice and unique development.

UPDATE 13.03.09

West/Lobby/Entrance area
1 of the 2 squash courts is almost done, the other one very soon. Lobby and gym still not finished. Entrance area as it was 4 weeks ago, no interlock etc.

Podium/Pool deck
Main pool is around 75% tiled, no big progress since early February. Still lots of work to do.

East
Structure completed - 10 floors plus upper deck of duplexes (total 11 floors). They were working today, doing windows and some interior. Could be finished by June.

North
Good progress here - finally. 4 floors completed. According to Imre's update fotos speed around 1floor per 7to 10 days. Structure could be completed by May/June, rest by October.

Let us hope!

Cannot stand more delays...

Can anyone tell me the total number of units tha these towers have in them please?

West: around 300 units, East and North around 80 units each, so around 460 appartments in total...

Hey guys, where are you...?

Am I the only idot left here...:-)

im still here dont worry. no new updates? im guessing same old shit?

Hi,
we were on Holiday...didnt really wanted to come back here...
i still check the site but lost the feeling to it...its done too much damage to actually be happy about it or like it...

Hi dirtyharry,
we are still interested in Dubai and especialy on the site.
Did you make your inspection? Any progress?

Kopf hoch - auch wenn der Hals dreckig ist. Irgendwann geht jede Krise vorbei.

Greetings from good old Germany.

Thanks guys!

Will do next inspection next Friday... maybe more progress by then.

What you a can see from passing by the site is that North is rising quickly. Floor 5 now completed, they are busy with floor 6. If they go ahead like that the structure could be completed by June as proposed earlier. What makes me wonder is that on the interior of West (Lobby, offices, gym etc.) there is no progress yet. But will enter next Friday.

But anyhow, that site is actually quite huge and it takes an awful lot of work to complete... remember, once North and East are completed, the land around the piers has to be removed etc...

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Dirtyharry to complete the update with internal progress

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UPDATE 27.03.09

It is getting more and more difficult to access the tower... thanks god, they leave the windows open:-)

Entrance area/podium/lobby
Entrance area still the same, no interlocks. No progress in lobby, only 50% is tiled. But the 2 squash courts are 90% completed...
The pool and the childrens' pool are fully tiled now, but the rest of the podium needs a lot of work.

East
They are doing the windows on the first part and internal work is going on. Still lots of work needed.

North
They are busy with the 7th floor now.


I took few fotos, if anyone is interested, let me have your email address.

Guys, we would be lucky if hand over takes place by November 1st in 2009.
Cross fingers!

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UPDATE 27.03.09

I took few fotos, if anyone is interested, let me have your email address.




Can you take some of Bay Central when your down there next would be Great thanks :cheers:

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oh... due to the heavy rain they will have another excuse to delay... and as of May it will be too hot...:bash:

Whenever I walk along the site the workers sleep or eat... how many breaks do they have per day? At this speed they will not gonna make it.

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UPDATE 03.04.2009

Unfortunately there is almost no progress at all...

On North they are busy with floor 8, on East there is not much progress to see, windos stilll not in place. Podium deck nothing done either. Same with entrance area etc.

And today it is raining again... heavy thunderstorms forecasted...

HI,
thanx for the updates.
I guess we should start calls and complains again.

Just passed the site this morning, on North they just started with the (last) 10th floor... so - theoretically - it does not look so bad... still 7 months to go...

07/April/2009

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By the way, curiosity: what is that tall building just across the road (on the left hand side of the bridge roadway as you look out to JBR) - it looks just like the Quay West. Anyone know if it is it a sister development?

Al Sahab from Emaar

Hello All,

I have just found this site and am also waiting to take possession in MQs.

I have taken 2 photos yesterday from Al Sahab - but I am struggling to find how to upload them?

Any guidance...?

Cheers Jack

UPDATE 10.04.2009

East
I was the first time in East and North, even East is inside a total job site, no floors done, no balconies, no windows, no lifts, nothing. I was a little bit shocked - but it shows you tha the interior part does take a lot of time...
Minimum 4-5 months required to complete.

West
Still NO progress in lobby, entrance area, podium deck, etc.

Nort
They are busy with floor 10 and that structure on the roof fpr the A/Cs etc.
Would be happy if they manage to complete by October.

I spoke to my friend who is an engineer in construction here in Dubai. He said they usually don't start work in interiors until the floors have windows set in..thats how they always do it. So I suspect until the glass isn't set in place for east, we won't see progress. Atleast we could see the progress of this from outside.

Regarding West Lobby, I suspect they will do all the lobbies at once. I presume they will all look the same for each building, hence the tiles and finishes will proabably installed together and mostly likely as one of the last jobs.

It'd be nice to get some pics of the what the finished interiors in west.

14/April/2009

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hey guys. is there any possible way to get some shots of the interiors of quay west preferably 01 units :)

All completed appartments are locked...

I was in the 01 unit with the security last year, he had accidently the key for app. 501. Since I had not expected that, I had no camera with me...

What I realised is the poor quality of the bathrooms and some kitchen cabinets had slightly different colours:-) And the windows look quite strange, as you look out of a cell...the windows are partitioned.

Will do my Friday inspection tomorrow.

UPDATE 17.04.2009

West/Podium deck/Entrance area
The fountain has been tiled... nearly completed:-) and the second squash court is ready... But otherwise no progress at all.

East
After visiting East again I must admit that I doubt date completion to be in 2009... I went up to the duplexes and penthouses (floors 9 and 10) and there was really nothing done, not even the balconies. There are 10 appartments per floor (except floor 9 and 10), so in total 88 appartments, that means lots of work to do. Elevators not there yet. Window frames done around 90% of the building, glasses maybe 10%.

North
Still busy with floor 10. Lots of work left here...

I do start crying reading all the updates here from time to time. Every now and then when I pass the Silverene site opposite MQs I see loads of workers there - their progress is amazing....

Tightness, the updates should help you to prepare yourself step by step for the next letter from Emaar in September stating that handover will be delayed to March 2010...:bash:

Imagine, you receive that letter without expecting it!!

Seriously, in 7 months (until end of October) actually a lot of things could be done, if not completed - but not by 10 workers for >170 appartments in East and North...

Let us hope and see.

Keep the faith :)

Hehe, sometimes it is me motivating you guys but sometimes I need to be motivated as well! :)

OK, here is some motivation:

Today they removed the scaffolding on floors 9 and 10, in other words, the structure of North is completed... now the fassade, interior walls etc.
They even installed some window frames on level 1 to 3...

Actually a good progress on North during the past months...

Motivation enough for the time being...?:banana:

Well yes! But this will last only until your "official" inspection on Fri, be it this one or any other ... ;)

Tightness, unfortunately you are right...

UPDATE 24.04.2009

East and North
Have been inside East and North... it looks good from outside, but there is hell lot of work to do inside... By the way, the main bath rooms there will get marble tiles, that looks much better than the train-station-tiles they installed in West.

The views from the outter appartments in East (up to the middle) on both sides offer really spectacular views throughout the Marina, but the inner appartments on the lower floors are a nightmare, I do not know how Emaar can sell such a scrap. No day light at all, all rooms face a wall... The left hand side appartments of North face directly the Bay Central job site... very bad. Only the outter 3 bed app. in North is ok too.

Still no lifts, flooring of lobby, stair cases, etc. If they do not increase their work force to finish East and North will take ages. 6 months left.

No progress on other common areas.

By the way, 1 villa in the middle was open and I must admit that the quality of the interior is very cheap... bathrooms, kitchen etc. Very basic. All appliances from Whirlpool, cheap stuff. Kitchen cabinets were damaged already. Some have different colours. And that in a large and expensive 3bed+ villa...

Thanks for your efforts Dirtyharry!

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01/May/2009

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UPDATE 01.05.2009

As from what I could see yesterday they were mainly working on North this week..., in East, West, Podium etc. there is no progress visible. At 6 floors on East (on the first part only!) they have installed the windows, otherwise as said previously there is a hell lot of work left. Will do next inspection in 2 weeks time... should be some progress?!?

02/May/2009

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Thanx for the pics...
i dont understand how only 10 workers per building are supposed to finish this amount of work?

they should have been done with construction by now so they can finish the rest in the next few months... i dont see this project meeting its FOURTH delay.... very sad.... very sad indeed.

Pano from hourads great pictures:

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Gents,
after visited the site this Saturday I do have serious concerns that the Quays project will never be finished. I have seen similar scenes on different construction sites all over Dubai but what I have seen that day is really unbelievable. ALL the workers without one exception working on the building were standing on the windows and looking down to the marina. NONE of them was doing any work :bash:
I am really surprised that there is no supervisors or anyone who is checking on them and on the progress.

At the end of the day someone is paying for their time...

If they continue this way completion 2012 in shalah...

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Even worse news that the previous one is that the finishes and interior design in Quay West are I have to say horrible.

Let's start with the kitchen:

1. some of the cabinets have frosted glass panels and very ugly handles
2. kitchen hood is extremly ugly
3. kitchen "window" and its design and finishing is something you have to see - I wouldn't comment on it
4. suspended ceiling is modular system with cheapest PVC finish which was used back in 80s

Bathrooms:

1. White tiles 10x10cm look actually much worse than I thought
2. cabinet under the sink has same horrible frosted glass doors as in the kitchens
3. same cheap PVC ceiling from the kitchen
4. Sink top is ugly yellow stone

Doors and wardrobes:

1. wood finish not good, cheap wood

Walls:

1. Ugly yellowish color

Moulions (inside):

1. Same disgusting yellowish color as all the walls

All in all, after all this waiting, delays and lost money we will get very bad quality apartments.

Thank you EMAAR for "unprecedent luxury" of Marina Quays project

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looks very bad and cheap quality ... but what can we expect from the DCE :)

Thanks god, I am not the only one complaining about quality...

But, guys, I have seen so many appartments and villas so far, the quality is overall very lousy in Dubai, excemptions are only Iris Blue, Trident buildings and Park Island and Marina Promenade. What is worrying me much more is indeed the unacceptable progress of work. Yesterday 2 buses left at 16.50h!!! Then the site was absolutely quiet! On other job sites like Park Island there are hundreds of workers leaving much later.

And yes, even when the few workers are "working", nearly none of them is really working, most of them sleep in the shade, eat or look around or smoke... what are they going to do when it is really hot???? F... all!!

Obviously there is nobody supervising them or they know exactly that there is no completion in 2009 and there is no pressure.

October 2009 would be in fact a realistic date for completion provided that "normal" work is carried out.

But with that progress it is impossible to complete in 2009.

I will send again a letter to fuckin' Emaar and I will include some fotos of the lousy workforce.

By the way, the ground area around West (right to the entrance) is now one hole again. Maybe they forgot something as usual.

hey m2 which unit are the pictures you took of?

looks very bad and cheap quality ... but what can we expect from the DCE :)

This looks like the old Emaar spec as used on Al Majara and Sahab developments. Marina Promenade and Park Islands are the new specs.

I haven't seen a DCE job yet that I would call quality, just cheap!

wow, that is the worst quality I have seen so far from DCE, makes DCE's The Point look like Burj Al Arab.

wow, that is the worst quality I have seen so far from DCE, makes DCE's The Point look like Burj Al Arab.:ohno:

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I think you are at it again Steve.:lol:

looks like different then the Burj Al Arab :nuts:

At least we have a Ceranic stove top...:-)

The worst is the bath room... the mirrors even do not have a wooden frame...

By the way, it looks like the orginal drawings from Emaar, so we should not complain too much about that lousy quality... I did not expect something better.

Forget the kitchen and the bathrooms, we will not live for ever in that tower...

Completion is the crucial point!

looks like different then the Burj Al Arab :nuts:

Yes an exaggeration but I mean more the bathrooms not the kitchen, they are quite bad here in comparison to the Point, but I think that is a design issue from Emaar rather than a problem with DCE. eg. very small white tiles.

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DCE's workforce is one of the least efficient I have seen among sites in Marina and Dubai. I could have posted dozens of pictures seeing guys sleeping all day long since my friends live in a building close by. I am talking sleeping or watching tenants in the building next to it like al Sahab. I am not talking about having a nap or a break in one of their breaks but rather of some several hours.

This is not acceptable!!

This is a picture I took from today, it as taken at 4.50pm but the workers queued up already at 4.30pm. Now, I certainly don't know about their working hours and thus have to be fair, but I assume (!) on all other job sites, at least DCEs, they have similar shifts.

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design problems, Client's Specs, materials approved by the Emaar, i dont think that DCE has role here, they are just buildiers

But at least the views must be nice... otherwise the workers would not look out of the windows and balconies all the time... obviously they enjoy theirselfes...

I admit, it must be quite interesting to have the entire Al Sahab 2 front in front of you. It is like in this Hitchcook move .. only know the German title .. dammit..

I received an answer from Emaar to my letter of complain... they say, everything is under control and ahnding over date will be November 1st (2009!)... but I have not expected anything else:-)

Orientation tour should be around 4 weeks prior to that date which means around end of September... so they really expect to do that massive work in East and North within 4 months...

I also received a reply for my complain letter:
Thank you for your inquiry with regards to the handover date for your apartment at Marina Quay.

Please note the following is the status of construction at present:

• The cladding for East Tower is almost completed and internal works are in progress.
• The aluminum frame work is in progress in the North Tower which will be followed by external cladding work.

As most of the work which is currently in progress is internal involving civil, joinery, electrical etc., this may have been one of the reasons you did not see any workers on site during your visit.

I would like to reconfirm to you that the expected completion date for your home will be the 1st of November 2009. We are also working closely with our Projects and Quality Assurance Department to monitor the progress on site and will keep you updated regularly.

Should you require any further assistance or information, please feel free to contact me on my direct email or on the numbers mentioned below.

Kind regards,

Any one believe this??? i dont...

I will update this Friday, then we see whether any internal work has taken place in the past 3 weeks...

What is also scaring me is the fact that the podium deck and all common areas look like 3 months ago...

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4 guys are sitting on the balcony, the 5th guy is watching them. And who is working inside? Unvisible ghosts?

^^They are probably 'thinking' about what to tackle first...:lol:

In England, they would all have a mug of tea and some biscuits!!

Just received a letter today from Emaar, asking for pre-registration against a fee of 3000 AED, the fellows from Park Island received the same letter.

Is that a good omen for handing over this year...?

^^They are probably 'thinking' about what to tackle first...:lol:

In England, they would all have a mug of tea and some biscuits!!

In Hungary , they would all have a beer and topless:)

In Hungary , they would all have a beer and topless:)

Sounds more like a night club and not a work site.:laugh:

Bad news, guys...

Have been there yesterday and 4 guys were sleeping in the North tower. Then a guy with a tie came and asked me to leave but I told him I will only leave when he tells me the completion date.

That question must have been funny because he started laughing and said: "Look around, it is too much work! Too much! So much! Minimum 1 year before handing over. Now we are doing electrical in East and North. But too much cable."

What do you give me for that?

Fantastic:banana: If Park Island is also a year away there should be plenty of renters around next month for The Point.

not easy to find a tenant now ,most of them want 12 chqs and they can leave any time..

Hi,

I'm abroad just now so don't have my contract handy for my apartment and would appreciate some advice. I'm thinking of selling and had an agent recommend AED 1.25million for my 2 bed (just less than OP), which was a bit of a shock.

As we are way passed the original completion date can the repayment clause from Emaar be applied ? ie could I get the full 80% back from Emaar?

Yes, it does apply, but always based on the original price...

Tenants are not easy to find, half marina is empty, so they can chose whatever they want with regards to quality, location etc.

thanks............sp the 'refund' option is the best route if sale prices go down further

Hi,

i was in West today... managed to sneak in and most doors were open... and people were cleaning the corridors and apartments...
i asked the guy why is all doors open he said, consultants from Emaar came today and have looked into all flats and have asked to change some doors, tiles, kitchen cabinets etc...

then he said construction for North and East will be finished in 2 months only interior will be left to do...

my opinion is if they want to delay hand over AGAIN... it kinda make scene to hand over West tower because of no construction on site...this is just my thought.

DirtyHarry, don't believe what they say... they just throw bullshit at us when we are caught on site so we dont think about going back again...

All kitchen appliances brand is Whirlpool Appliances (http://www.whirlpool.com)

bertos, do not worry, I do not believe in anything what they are saying. I just wanna move in, whether the bathroom look shit or not (but they do:-).

To go there is the only possibility to get some kind of a clou.

24/May/2009

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Ok, let us consider that cladding and windows will be completed within 2 months on East and North, there will be August, September and October for the interior of around 160 appartments in East and North. That is actually impossible. Keep in mind that East and North look terrible inside, no elevators, floors, eclectrical have been done. Only 1 appartment in East is completed and the door is locked. It would be the first time that Emaar hands over (West) before everything is completed.

They could do it by increasing substantially the work force. Maybe a miracle happens:-)
We would deserve it...

Imre, what do you think...?

Imre, what do you think...?

The main tower structure was done last summer , after everything became slow what is Emaar not just the MQ.

They can finish in this year but need more workers , maybe the money is the biggest problem here.

Hi all,

I've just received the letter from Emaar regarding the 3000 DHS pre-registration fee. I seem to remember this being discussed a while back on the forum, however I am struggling to find it now.

Can anybody provide some insight into this pre-registration fee? Is the 3000 DHS deducted from the final registration amount or is this just another additional fee lumped on by either EMAAR or the Dubai Land and Property Dept? Who does the amount go to... EMAAR or the govenrment? If the 3000 DHS is deducted then what would the final registration figure be? Is there a deadline by when this pre-registration fee needs to be paid?

Apologies for all the questions guys, I am just questioning another charge to add to the multitude of them already paid to this tinpot developer, or if to Dubai Land and Property Dept another form of taxation in this tax-free haven.

Thanks in advance!

I believe AED 1000 goes to the land department and AED 2000 goes to Emaar for admin fees. It is not deducted from the 1% of the total purchase price that you need to pay. See this post http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=37239264&postcount=9629 Appears that you can avoid the Emaar AED 2000 fee if you pay in person or pay Emaar the 2000 if it is easier for you than going yourself.

As far as I know that pre-registration is not necessary, the letter says, it is for the safety of the owner... the normal registration at the land department is 1% - 1,5% of the Emaar original price. For sure there will be no reduction of the 3000 AED.

You can check the forum for Park Island, they got the same letter and had the same discussion however there Emaar said due to the soon handing over it is not necessary to pre-register... But for sure they need money!

As far as I know that pre-registration is not necessary, the letter says, it is for the safety of the owner... the normal registration at the land department is 1% - 1,5% of the Emaar original price. For sure there will be no reduction of the 3000 AED.

You can check the forum for Park Island, they got the same letter and had the same discussion however there Emaar said due to the soon handing over it is not necessary to pre-register... But for sure they need money!

Check with Emaar by calling them. I think they have waived the AED3,000 fee for now. They have done that for Park Island.

UPDATE 29.05.2009

West
Some progress in the lobby...some columns have been cladded with wood. But some parts of the walls look strange... no wood, no marble. I hope they will change that, looks quite poor otherwise. Some appartments' doors have markers on for change because of the scratches everywhere. So obviously somebody had a look at it...

Podium/pool deck
No progress

East and North
Windows only in the first part, inside no progress... looks still like a skeleton.

Entrance area
No progress. The new holes in the ground around West tower are still there, they installed some pipes.

Check with Emaar by calling them. I think they have waived the AED3,000 fee for now. They have done that for Park Island.
Hi, Ive just got my letter from Emarr on the AED 3000 registration fee. I plan to call them to clarify what it's all about but wondered if anybody else has enquired, ie are we required to pay it or not ?

Hi,
i called Emaar and asked. they said we have to make sure to pay this fee before the hand over date which as of now is 1st Nov 2009 for us.

Also, he said this is a must to pay, 1000AED is for GOV and 2000 for Emaar, when i asked why 2000 for emaar, he didn't have any answer, he replied : Emaar incentive and policy for land pre-registration. Stupid.

^^I think you can go directly to Land Dept and pay your 1% there. You can bypass emaar if you wish, but then if you are not in Dubai, need to spend money on travel, accomodation, etc, etc. Scooby in Torch thread had some posts regarding this.

04/June/2009

Marina Quays

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From DMM thread:

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MQ and BC pano:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=37793114&postcount=4009

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=BBFFC5E1-D8EF-4204-BC88-DFFD3BCB25B5

No new posts in our Quays forum for more than a week. Normally "no news" are good news!

But I doubt that I will ever read anything good here. ;)

15/June/2009

MQ

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tightness, this is because I am in Germany for holiday... so no Friday inspection with bad news afterwards:-)

I hope that they have at least installed the windows on East and North when I am back in 3 weeks time... maybe somebody else has a walk around the site?

Hi, have anyone found out about the payment of the pre-registration fee to EMAAR-Dubai Land property.? I just called emmar and they told me we cannot go directly to Dubai Land Dpt. because they, or our bank, have to do it in our behalf....mmm...strange.

Any way they told me there is no problem if we pay this pre-registration 1 week before the hand-over....I do not want to pay an extra dirham to emaar until they finish Quays.

By the way,in their system is still showing 1st of November as delivery date....but who knows.

FYI yesterday I had an offer from an agent for my 2 bed apartment at OP. I was also asked if I was interested to sell las week by another agent (maybe they just wanted to get it on their books?)

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Thx for the update!

Oh f..., I do not see any progress on the fotos... still no windows on East and North... whar are they doing actually?

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Don’t understand why Emaar not finishing this small piece of the Marina edge.

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Don’t understand why Emaar not finishing this small piece of the Marina edge.

This only there for support during construction and will be removed after completion if you look at the renders on the emaar website.
finished article looks great in my opinion

^^Very nice.... when done.

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amazing news, after 4 years the board there:)

amazing news, after 4 years the board there:)

:)

22/June/2009

Marina Quays, board

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we should change the title as the board says, 42F+12F+12F

24/June/2009

Marina Quays

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Yes, but it should be 40+10+10, only the floors with appartments are counting.

At least they have instsalled all window frames since imre's last foto early June.

So the glasses should follow - hopefully...

Hey guys... any news? Any progress? What about the windows on bloody East and North? What about lobby, podium...?

Today

passing by

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Thanks bizzybonita. Oh, this will take ages... maybe all windows will be there within 2 weeks. And for sure only at East... Don't think that November 1st is realistic.

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slow progress there!! thanks for the updates, does anyone know if there is a deadline for the property registration process? i am not in Dubai so will have to plan a trip to do it.

UPDATE 10.07.2009

West/lobby/podium
Very diasappointing... after 4 weeks still no interlocks, lobby not finished, floors 1-3 not finished. Podium no progress. Holes in the ground around the tower not done.

East
Windows missing on 3 levels, inside they started with the elevators and floors, but long way to go... staircases still not completed, interiors of the appartments incl. flooring by far not completed. Massive work to do.

North
Window frames completed. But no windows... inside a nightmare. Like East 3 months ago.

In view of the summer months and Ramadan and in view of the unbelievable slow progress I do not see any chance for a handover within 2009.

any new news guys?

Will do next inspection this friday... hope to see little progress after 2 weeks...

22/July/2009

Marina Quays

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every picture looks the same! no change what so ever!:bash:

has anyone asked Emaar if they would consider converting the final payment to a loan?

Don't worry, you have enough time to save money for the last installment... hand over will not take place in 2009, maybe March 2010. There is so much work to do...

UPDATE 24.07.2009

West/podium deck/entrance area
Some progress in the lobby, all walls and floors done. Also some progress on pool deck, the area for the sunchairs done and some scrap collected. Still no interlocks (I suppose they will do prior to hand over). Holes in the ground refilled except one.

East
From floor 4 onwards they started with the kitchen cabinets, nearly all bathrooms done, however no elevators yet. Stair cases and floors not done.

North
Looks like East 2 months ago. They started with the window frames. Will take minimum 6 weeks to catch up with East.


Despite the little progress given hand over date is not realistic, so much work left.

UPDATE 31.07.2009

Actually I cannot tell you what they have done last week...some more windows at East and North, some work in the stair cases, otherwise no visible progress.

Ahh, the security (who is also working there, no uniform) said 10 times, that in December everything should be "finished"! Provided that Emaar is not running out of money to pay DCE. He told me to come today 7.00h a.m. (big sacrifice on a saturday morning:-)) in order to talk to a site engineer which I did. And that guy confirmed that handing over should be in December or January together with Park Island. Definitely no separate handing over of West. He said the cladding of East and North should be ready by end of August, then they do only interiors, common and surrounding areas etc. Last but not least the land hast to be removed around the piers of East and North...

Once the tower cranes at East and North come down there will be light at the end of this sad tunnel...

Wow - thanks for your efforts coming to the site at 7am! Again, no good news when seeing what happened from the out- and inside.

Do you guys think it is beneficial to get Quays handovered before PI (think: Supply of untis on the market for a quite similar project)?

If so, will be Quays delivered before PI?

Harry: Danke wirklich für deinen Einsatz - hoffe du gehst nicht an dem Projekt "kaputt", weiß nicht wieviele Nerven dat Ding dich schon gekostet hat ;)

thanks harry .. i think once the handover time comes all of us should take harry out for the night as a thank you for keeping us up to date with his weekly updates...thanks from new york harry! :cheers:

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Then Paste them here.

^^upload them on http://tinypic.com/

Then Paste them here.

TKS for the Advice:lol::dance:

Harry,
Thanks a lot for all your effort and updates.
I hope they hand over in 2009, although i never stopped calling and complaining Emaar, i do that as a habit every few days or so just to keep the pressure on them. I suggest those who are not in the country, at least file a complain once a week as well.

Thanks guys, al hamdulilah I am not alone here! And I will not forget your offer for a drink or two! I have it in writing:-)

At least they ARE working on our job site... And one day it will be handed over...

I also phoned them today and complained again. They said, we will receive a letter by the end of September... what a surprise...

I just sent a letter to Emaar customer care dept, and would like to ask all the owner living in Dubai or abroad doing the same on regular base to give Emaar more pressure. :lol:

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Kind Attention: Emaar Customer Care

Reference: Unit XXX, Marina Quays West, Dubai Marina

Dear Emaar Customer Care

I am XXX, the owner of Unit XXX, Marina Quays West. Due to the delay for the completion and hand over for Marina Quays is more than one and half year, I would like to request the below information to be updated on the regular base:

1: Updated Construction Working Program
2: Latest Weekly on site Meeting Minutes: Please provide me this report regularly to
Have a better update for the construction progress.

Your prompt feedback and support is highly appreciated!!
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OK, to receive an official update is more than justified. Will send such a letter tomorrow!

An meine deutschsprechenden Freunde: Tut das Gleiche! Wir haben ja nix zu verlieren...

Hello Every body,
I'm new member here so i wish to know how it work in this Group ?
by the way i work as property consultant for more than 6 yrs.
but for such kind of E marketing it's my first time
I hope to get your help.

With Tegards

Hi Folks,

I have an appartment in Marina Quays East. I live in the UK and have never actually seen the site. Forgive my ignorance but can someone tell me which of the towers in the pictures is Quays East, West and North?

its interesting , you have invested money in properties and you dont know where it is exactly :)

no problem, map is here:

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pic from June 2009

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^^This was the Sheikh's prediction, "if we build it they will come".

They haven't built it yet so no need to come:lol:

LOL

LOL, true... unbelievable.

At least Dubai's marketing was very good!!! But it WAS good, they spoilt their reputation within months... which took them years and decades to build up.

^^This was the Sheikh's prediction, "if we build it they will come".

They haven't built it yet so no need to come:lol:

:hilarious

Of course Dubai can't be blamed for the credit crunch or the world wide recession. Perhaps more people (including me) should have seen this comming and the effect it would have on the UAE and their lack of any real indigenous population which has exacerbated the problems. I find it unbelievable that the residency visa has been reduced down to 6 months from 3 years with the addition of minimum property values and income now factored in. And even more incredible that they still insist on ex-pats leaving after a month if they lose their jobs. The Government here are a complete bunch of jokers (and scammers) IMO. I guess they've taken our money and now think if we don't like it then we can all fxxxx off !! :ohno:

UPDATE 07.08.2009

If you believ it or not, but they were working today on East and North cladding... at least 3 workers each! Obviously they go with full speed now to catch up:-)

West/podium
Pool deck looks better now, they started to line the plants areas with black mats, lots of sand lying around. Entrance area no progress.

East
Up to level 5 the corridors are tiled, most appartments have entrance doors or at least door casings. Inside all appartments have door casings. Only a few windows are missing.
Elevator installation is in progress now. In the kitchens still only the cabinets, up to level 5 the bathrooms and toilets are nearly completed, level 6 to 10 look bad but could be done relatively quickly.

But what I don't understand that 2 excavators have digged out the pier of East... water is now coming from the ground. Looks quite irritating. It can't be the final step to remove the filled land around the piers since that would start at the marina side and for sure only after they have completed East...

North
I must admit that they caught up nearly with East. Maybe 1-2 months behind.

Any significant progress is dependent on what they will do through Ramadan...

Personally I think that with normal speed everything could be done within 6 months from now on.

It is true, and I agree with Harry's comment. Workers were working on site on Friday. Hope Emaar can speed up the construction, and try not to delay again

Thank you Imre. That is very helpful.

any body want to sell 1bed at good price cash buyer pls PM me
thanks
Mirpuri

Unbelievable!

When I passed the site this morning there were 2 palm trees on the road side of the pool deck!!!!! Will check the pool deck this Friday, if someone needs fotos please send me message.

I really do not understand why they start with the palm trees months before completion.

But maybe a good omen?

I am interested in buying a one bed unit - preferably the ones with a study. Not an agent. Message me if interested.

Thanks.

I just sent a letter to Emaar customer care dept, and would like to ask all the owner living in Dubai or abroad doing the same on regular base to give Emaar more pressure. :lol:

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Kind Attention: Emaar Customer Care

Reference: Unit XXX, Marina Quays West, Dubai Marina

Dear Emaar Customer Care

I am XXX, the owner of Unit XXX, Marina Quays West. Due to the delay for the completion and hand over for Marina Quays is more than one and half year, I would like to request the below information to be updated on the regular base:

1: Updated Construction Working Program
2: Latest Weekly on site Meeting Minutes: Please provide me this report regularly to
Have a better update for the construction progress.

Your prompt feedback and support is highly appreciated!!
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Dear Mr. XXX,

Thank you for your email dated 2nd August 2009 with regard to your DM Quay West XXX. Firstly, I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your continued commitment to Emaar and to assure you of our endeavor to provide you with the highest standard of service.

Please be informed that the revised completion date for your unit is 1st November 2009. However be informed that we cannot provide you with construction progress status as well as information of weekly site meetings, since it is strictly internal communication.

I hope that I have been able to clarify your concerns, but if you require any further clarification or assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us on our Customer Care contact numbers +971 4 366 1 688 or 800 EMAAR(36227).

Kind Regards,

Michelle Rodrigues
Customer Care Executive
Customer Care Department

PO Box 9440
Emaar Business Park
Building 1 Ground Level
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Tel +971 4 366 1688
Toll free 800 EMAAR (36227)
Fax +971 4 366 1600

customercare@emaar.ae
www.emaar.com

This morning palm tree no. 5 on the pool deck... at least the palm tree forrest is growing...:-)

So they stick to the given date of handing over... we will see by the end of September what their letter will state. Actually ~ 10 weeks from now on to November 1st would require a miracle... it is getting exciting now...

It would be good if all the owners work together to give Emaar consistent pressure for the project hand over. Let's cross the finger and hope for the best after all the efforts done:nuts:

My fingers are nearly broken from crossing...

By the way, I just received the same message from Emaar.

Hope it is a good sign for the completion on time this time!!

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Hope that the palms will not be finished upon completion:-)))

I visited the North tower today, quite a long way to go still. very little work has been done on the internal finishing.

I am not an architect, but my guess is at least 6 more months for this tower. Quays west seems to be close to handover though.

hey harry you said you received a letter from emaar? i dont get anything from i dont know why is that they have all my correct contact info... when did you receive your letter?

The letter I am referring to is just Emaar's answer to my complain, same letter as Formosa Explorer has received. They still give you November 1st (2009) as handing over date. But never ever that date will work for the entire development. Lots of work to do on East and especially North and on the surroundings, inner areas and amenities.

We should not fool ourselves because of the palm trees:-) It is a massive development and its size you only realize when you walk along there and especially inside on ground floor from West to North.

The only thing I hope that the next date they will supply by the end of September will be the last and final one!!!!!

I think Harry is right about this. Only if they have 3 shifts keep working day and night, otherwise, it is very difficult for Emaar to honor the delivery based on the promised date. Considering the upcoming Ramadan period, I can only hope they can finalise the real handover date for us to manage the cashflow easier.

Good news guys!

This evening they started to dismantle the tower crane on East. 2 sections. Should be gone by next week.

AND: They started to remove the land around East pier!! Emergency walkaway is completed and blue fence on Marina side is partially gone around East and even the land around North pier is being levelled currently.

At least they go ahead and slowly slowly we can see some light at the end of the tunnel.

does anyone have any new pics ..id like to see what the piers look like

Send me your email address

It would be good if all the owners work together to give Emaar consistent pressure for the project hand over. Let's cross the finger and hope for the best after all the efforts done:nuts:


Hello Everyone...

I contacted EMAAR as above...
Please see reply below... + contact details of Emaar Representitive.


Dear Sir,
Thank you for your visit to Emaar Property Handover Department with regards to the completion date of the aforementioned property and for taking the time to inform us of your concerns.

First, I would like to apologize for the inconvenience caused to you due to the rescheduling of the handover dates for the project and would like to reconfirm to you that the expected completion date for your home is the 1st of November 2009.

Whilst we regret the delay, due to circumstances entirely outside our control, please note the delay was primarily due to obtaining necessary approvals from the concerned government authorities.

Notwithstanding the notification we do anticipate that purchasers will be invited for Home Orientation prior to the latest completion date with the actual handover date being subject to the snagging process.

We understand your current situation and the points highlighted in your letter to us with regards your circumstances, however we regret to inform you that we cannot help.

I trust this clarifies our position and once again thank you for taking the time to visit us and giving us the opportunity to better serve you. Should you require any additional assistance or information, please feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,
Sanjay Pokhriyal
Assistant Manager
Property Handover Department
Emaar Dubai
PO Box 9440
Dubai
United Arab Emirates
Tel: +971 4 3661688
Toll Free: 800 EMAAR (36227)
Fax: +971 4 3673719
phd@emaar.ae

Thanks for your information.

So now 3 of us have received in writing the confirmation of November 1st...

However I doubt that they will have any scruples to change that date in the next letter to be supplied in around 6 weeks...:-)

UPDATE 14.08.2009

Good news: 6 workers were on the site. Bad news: They were sleeping in East on level 3.
Obviously you can sleep well there, they did not wake up when I climbed over them:-)

West/podium/entrance area
All interlocks and paving stones in the entrance area, they started paving a few meters.
Pool area is taking shape... 6 palm trees are there. No progress on the rest of the podium between East, North and the villas.

East
Tower crane 50% dismantled, should be gone on Sunday/Monday. Appartments in level 3 seem to be completed and are all locked up. Levels 4-9 still lots of work left. Elevators not yet installed. Removing of land around the pier is in progress.

North
Considering the progress of the last months North should be 1-2 months behind East.

At least we can see some progress. Work force on working days seem to be increased.

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Thanks for the fotos, Formosa!

Is it suite 08? What is your personal impression of the interior quality? The fotos look better than actually expected.

Thanks for the fotos, Formosa!

Is it suite 08? What is your personal impression of the interior quality? The fotos look better than actually expected.

Hi Harry: It is suite 08. Actually, the quality is really better than expected; however, I think the spec is same as the early phase for Emaar projects like Majara. I believe it was due to this project was launched long time ago, yet been delayed for too long!! Still, it would be a great project once it is finished especially the design for Quays East and North is truly special!!

Yes, your are right, it is like Al Sahab and Majara, especially the bathrooms do look cheap. 4 years after launch still not ready, Emaar has not done a good job here. However the pool will be great! Better than Promenade which has a lousy pool - small and 1,5m deep only.

And yes, I wish I had the 3bed in East or North at the front:-)

Let us hope! I cannot wait for the handing over any longer...

Tonight at 20.30h the tower crane at East left the site... sometimes they are quicker than expected...

Tonight at 20.30h the tower crane at East left the site... sometimes they are quicker than expected...

That is indeed a good news. I feel the glass cladding for the North tower is almost the same as the East tower. Hope Emaar can speed up everything for this project.

Guys I think that EMAAR is really targeting 01 Nov this time as promised.
I talked to some managers from both consultant and contractor's side and they were both assuring me that they don't have any problems finishing 100% of the scope before 01 Nov. The guy said that they suppose to get power connection by 20 Aug from DEWA and they need around 45 days to test all the systems. To be honest DEWA is my biggest concearn. If you look at the other projects like Burj Views, Lofts, Executive Towers all of them are delayed even further at the end coz of DEWA connections. The good thing about Quays is that they already went thru all this exercises last year (expanding the substation, laying new cables etc) and there are no surprises anymore. He also told me that one of the top guys from EMAAR is puting big pressure on DEWA personaly.
Other than that in last couple of weeks we experienced that they can easily speed up the construction and finish much faster than we expected.
I just hope that they will keep going.
Some photos from Friday afternoon, they were really busy with removing land around Easth pier.
Dirtyharry thanks for your regular updates


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Guys I think that EMAAR is really targeting 01 Nov this time as promised.
I talked to some managers from both consultant and contractor's side and they were both assuring me that they don't have any problems finishing 100% of the scope before 01 Nov. The guy said that they suppose to get power connection by 20 Aug from DEWA and they need around 45 days to test all the systems. To be honest DEWA is my biggest concearn. If you look at the other projects like Burj Views, Lofts, Executive Towers all of them are delayed even further at the end coz of DEWA connections. The good thing about Quays is that they already went thru all this exercises last year (expanding the substation, laying new cables etc) and there are no surprises anymore. He also told me that one of the top guys from EMAAR is puting big pressure on DEWA personaly.
Other than that in last couple of weeks we experienced that they can easily speed up the construction and finish much faster than we expected.
I just hope that they will keep going.
Some photos from Friday afternoon, they were really busy with removing land around Easth pier.
Dirtyharry thanks for your regular updates

Great News M2!!:banana:

m2, you are saving my day...:-) I wonder how they will work over Ramadan. Hopefully they don't spoil the credit we have given them right now...

Yes, they speeded up the glass cladding on North, but inside they are around 4 weeks behind East. Nevertheless I have to give them some credit for speeding up. If you see the fotos from March this year they have done a very good job on North. If they had been working like that throughout 2008 we would have received our keys long time ago.

In 6 weeks we should receive the next letter... if we are very very lucky then it will be the invitation for the orientation tour.

Good luck to all of us!

Guys!! The fence in front of the East and North tower were removed last evening. Excavaors have started to work on the excavation of the ground surrounding the pier of the North Tower also!!

This is just a dream. Please wake me up.

Harry, where are your realistic statements!??

Tightness, stay calm:-) We should all do, it is actually a huge job site and so many things have to be done still, especially in North (appartments, floors, lobby, balconies, lifts, electrical etc) and the entire surroundings have to be paved.

It depends very well, what Emaar intends to do: Either we will be invited for the Orientation Tour in October (but therefore all appartments have to be ready) and then snagging will be done along with the remaining works in- and outside which will lead to a delay by around 1-2 months. That was stated in Emaar's letter posted by Formosa Explorer, if you read between the lines. Or Emaar will indeed perform the handing over as scheduled but amenities and facilities will be completed beyond that date. That happened i.e. to the Promenade owners. But would be ok for us:-)

Actually progress depends on their working times during Ramadan (21.08. - 20-09.) If they work only half days I do not see a realistic chance for completion in time.

Next week we will know...

At least we can see progress nearly on a daily basis. It is a pity that there was absolutely none throughout 2008.

yea i agree with harry... i think march is a realistic handover date..but lets hope im wrong.

UPDATE 21.08.2009

After an 1 hour inspection tour throughout the site I must admit that it is absolutely impossible to complete the entire development by October. In East and especially in North there is so much work left, even in East floors 8,9 and 10 look like virgins... never touched - not to mention the upper levels in North. To remove the land around the 2 piers will take much time, it is a very huge area of the site.

West/podium/entrance area
8 workers were present doing interlocks and pavement in front of the West entrance, whereas 2 guys were working, 6 guys watching - as usual. Maybe 50% of the area paved so far. Not much progress on the podium. Between villas and East/North nothing done. Around West tower nothing done. In front of the villas facing the road nothing done, looks like a battlefield.

By law the working time during Ramadan (commencing tomorrow) has to be reduced by 2 hours - worst case szenario would be that they work from 7 to 12.30h only since until the end of August no outside work is allowed between 12.30h and 15.00h...

Sorry, that I don't sound optimistic anymore but we have to face reality...

Thanks Harry,

do you know what would be an estimate maintenance cost per annual for our flats?
is it per sqft?

Thanks.

Maintenance fees I guess should be around 20 AED per sqf, in Marina Promenade it is 20,5 AED per sqt. They calculate of course the appartment plus balcony. Normally that fees have to be paid upfront in full prior to handing over of the keys...

By the way, I just visited the site quickly to have a look on the internal notice boards and unfortunately they will act as I predicted:

Working hours during Ramadan will be from 7.00h to 13.00h (22.08. - 21.09.)

So I cannot imagine that our dream of a hand over in time will come true...

They just installed the entrance door on West.

22/August/2009

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Was driving along the site at 15.00h and 6 workers were paving the entrance area... strange (during Ramadan), but good:-) will see the next days whether they go ahead with that extra working hours

If handover occurs without the amenities being finished for eg. pool etc. Will our Service Fees be adjusted because of the fact we cannot enjoy the full use of the facilities?

Hey guys. I've got a question - who will you have doing the inspections/snagging for you? (once we get there...!)

Cockatoo, no, nothing will be adjusted, that is not Emaar's style:-)

In nearly all recent developments of Emaar some facilities like Pool, gym etc., have been opened 1-2 months after handing over, that is quite normal with them.

Sandstone, if you cannot do the orientation tour (usually 4-6 weeks prior to hand over) by yourself you must authorize somebody in writing to carry out that inspection on your behalf. After the orientation tour you will not be allowed again to inspect your appartment until handing over. That means you will have to rely on Emaar doing the snagging.

Cockatoo, no, nothing will be adjusted, that is not Emaar's style:-)

In nearly all recent developments of Emaar some facilities like Pool, gym etc., have been opened 1-2 months after handing over, that is quite normal with them.

Sandstone, if you cannot do the orientation tour (usually 4-6 weeks prior to hand over) by yourself you must authorize somebody in writing to carry out that inspection on your behalf. After the orientation tour you will not be allowed again to inspect your appartment until handing over. That means you will have to rely on Emaar doing the snagging.

Thanks DirtyHarry. I probably won't be able to do it myself. I'll need to consider hiring. So... if anyone knows a good reliable resource, please send their contact info.

But another thought occurred... There appear to be some responsible people on this board who are also owners or residents in the building. Any interest in carrying this out for me? I'd pay a small fee, especially if you can take pictures or video.

Just an emerging thought...

Sandstone, I will do my orientation tour with 2 engineers from the construction business. Could do yours as well if they have time.

This afternoon the West lobby looked good... all floors, columns and walls as well as the security desk are unwrapped, both sliding doors installed and locked - and: light was burning... powered by a generator but at least the spotlights do work indeed:-)

For the first time for 2 years now it looked alive... somehow...

Pavement in entrance area is maybe 75% done. Should be finished next week. They are working bravely on it.

If there were no bloody East and North we could move in soon...

I hope that DEWA connection will not cause problems.

If there were no bloody East and North we could move in soon...

Something we have dreamed of for the last years..

Thanks for all the inspection work!

For the first time for 2 years now it looked alive... somehow...

Pavement in entrance area is maybe 75% done. Should be finished next week. They are working bravely on it.

If there were no bloody East and North we could move in soon...

I hope that DEWA connection will not cause problems.

Harry!! Thanks a lot for the great info. I went to the site at around 4:00PM, and talked to one labor also. He said the pavement in the ground floor would probably take around 4 days to finish. The lobby of the West tower is almost done and only need to fix some furnitures/Gym facility and do the final clearance. I also checked the thread for Marina promenade, it seems Emaar spent around 3 or 3.5 months from the current similar stage to hand over.

Hope Emaar can work harder for the rest two towers and deliver the property to us by the end of this year!!

UPDATE 28.09.2009

West/entrance area/podium
Inner pavement made good progress, but nothing done on the huge part beneath East and North. On podium little progress, some more plant areas filled with sand. That's it. Half day work is not so successful...

East and North
Still the biggest concern. In East only floors 3 to 5 nearly finished, however walls and ceilings to be done. Floors 6 to 8 not much progress, i.e. bathrooms and kitchens not fitted. Floors 9 and 10 look still terrible. North still around 4-8 weeks behind.
East and North lobbies only glass structure done, nothing else. No progress on land removal aorund the piers.

It is impossible that East and North will be ready by November.

Common areas around West ground level should be finished by end of next week.

I still think that they will allow West owners to do the orientation tour before November 1st in order to keep them quiet... but handing over of all 3 towers will not take place at the given date - considering another 3 weeks Ramadan and then only 5 weeks normal working time.

In 4 weeks time we will receive Emaar's letter...

thanks for the update harry... however if they do the orientation does that mean we have to make the final payment? if they think that i will pay them they are sadly mistaken. i will not pay that until we can move in.

Thanks Harry.

Final payment is only due upon handing over, regardless whether snagging after the orientation tour takes 4 weeks or 4 months.

Final payment is only due upon handing over, regardless whether snagging after the orientation tour takes 4 weeks or 4 months.

By the way, check your emails (junk mail folder in my case)

Emaar is allowing you to finance the last payment. Let me look for the link...

It looks like it is for locals, as one requirement APPEARS to be a residence visa.

I have not received that email yet... waiting desperately for the update letter:-)

By the way, check your emails (junk mail folder in my case)

Emaar is allowing you to finance the last payment. Let me look for the link...

It looks like it is for locals, as one requirement APPEARS to be a residence visa.

Hi Sandstone: Could you copy and paste the letter you have receive from Emaar for the last payment finance so that we can understand how to process it. TKS a lot for your help as I couldn't find this letter as well!!

Hi,
I passed by the site this morning and saw many ppl busy on the pavements, should be finished this week. also there were bunch of workers setting up the lights on the building facing JBR road...they have also finished the touch up on all WEST tower balconies where little cracks could be seen before.

By the way, check your emails (junk mail folder in my case)

Emaar is allowing you to finance the last payment. Let me look for the link...

It looks like it is for locals, as one requirement APPEARS to be a residence visa.

MORE INFO PLEASE SANDSTONE

Hi guys, I went to the site yesterday with a friend of my mine who is in the construction business, we had a good look around and he was telling me that he cannot see handover been done b4 June 2010. Half of East needs to be completed, north needs to be completed and then the walk needs to be completed, all land needs to be removed from surrounding area so the buildings can be filled up with the marina water,and general clean up. If they were to work day and night with 3 shifts - 300 people a shift, then it will be possible finnish by March, but then depends how quickly they give it over.

The site building itself is pretty impressive and surrounding areas like mall, beach etc, but it been almost 3 years late, come next year, who knows what it be worth.

Anyone know what current market price is for property?

MORE INFO PLEASE SANDSTONE

Sorry guys ... hang on..! I went looking for it yesterday but got distracted by another email.

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Can you all let me know how this works out? And if any non-residents can get this deal, let me know what you said!

Styler, you made my day...:-)

For hand over, amenities and surroundings don't need to be ready. It's normal with Emaar, that those will be completed later (i.e. swimming pool, gym, surround areas, plants etc).

I don't think June 2010, that would be another 10 months, altough we know that they will not work in 3 shifts. They have not done that in the past years.

But I agree that East and North will never be ready by November, let's see how Emaar will handle that - especially with regards to West, with its lobby and entrance area being ready in a few weeks. As of tomorrow the mid day break 12.30h to 15.00h is not mandatory anymore. But Ramadan timings until 20.09.

We have no choice other than waiting for the next letter. I hope it will be the last and final one. All workers and foremen you ask there give you November/December for completion date. I know that this means nothing at the end of the day but it still gives me some optimistic hints...

By the way, today they told me that the tower crane at North should be gone in 1 week... and the entire podium should be ready within 4 weeks.

Hello guys,
i have reciceved an email from Emaar about their new hosues in down town with great offers such as "Maintenance fees waived up to one year for a limited time only"

I think we should all request for one year free maintenance fee when we get our house handed over.

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rgs,

I know, Emaar has tremendous problems getting rid of those 1000s of appartments there... if you work somewhere there it could be nice but otherwise the traffic there is a mess (Dubai Mall etc.), imagine the Burj opens!

i agree that would be the least they could do for making the project this much overdue we should all write to emaar saying thats fair compensation for the owners.

UPDATE 04.09.2009

West/entrance area/podium
Pavement groundfloor/entrance area nearly completed, up to the ramp and East's lobby.They are busy now with the pavement between West and the bridge, the staircase down to the Marina Boulevard and just in front and around the guard house. Both cases of the 2 bars have been installed. All pavement around West should be completed by the end of the coming week. Not much progress on podium. Lots of material lying around for North and for the plant areas which could turn out very nice (lots of them!)

East/North
1 elevator with door frames on each floor installed in East. Busy with second one. Some progress on the upper levels and in the lobbies.

But as so many times said before: Lots of work left... We can only hope for a separate handing over of West. If the entrance area and the parking bays are completed it would be reasonable to move in whilst they can work on the interiors of East and North.

Sometimes they can surpsrise me...

The gym has no floor, no tiles, but the NAUTILUS equipment is stored in the squash court...

Today they started to pave the podium around the pool...

Guys,
i just got off the phone with Emaar, they couldn't tell me what the real hand over date is but he assured me separate hand over is not an option.
He insisted on waiting for the letter which we should all receive in 3 weeks time.

God help us.

Then one thing is clear: November 1st 2009 is not realistic for all 3 towers.

2010.

Fuck.

Well you guys thinking what is going on with west, remember some ppl brought in the other 2 towers way back in 2005 and have had their 75% paid since 2007.

Letter after letter we are all getting with handover dates which means nothing anymore, as when it comes to handover they just get extended for another 6 - 9 months.

Not to consider all the rent we been paying since the first initial handover date.

I am truly lost and sadden by this whole episode, and come next handover date might get extended again and again, who knows anymore. Its like the boy who cried wolf. No one believes him anymore.

I had friends who brought in 2006 and been living in their apartments since 2007 and they laugh when ask abt my apartment, rather embarrassment now, as i use to talk abt it so fondly and how, what a great buy it was.

Even if and when i move in, the good feeling is gone, i don't know anymore, well and truly disappointed.

Styler, I have the same problem and for sure we are not alone. These delays do cost us a lot of money.

Now listen guys, this morning I went to the offices at the site and I told them, that I will not leave without knowing the truth. Finished. Then the project manager, a very nice and friendly man, told me very open the following:

Currently there are every day nearly 800 workers on the site, 200 outside, 600 inside.

DEWA connection is expected to be there today, there was a delay by 2 weeks. Then power supply will be tested for 30 days (A/C etc.).

Surrounding and common areas (podium deck, pool, entrance, East side of West etc.) will be completed in 2 weeks, West will be completed incl. gym and lobby etc. by end of September.

East and North shall be completed by end of October incl. removal of land around the piers.

He said that a local guy has bought half of North tower and is pushing Emaar very hard to hand over before the end of this year at the latest.

He admitted that in 2008 there was a absolute stillstand for 6 months since they did not get the permission to extend North and East over the water.

Actually that project manager did not sound pessimistic at all with regards to handing over in November/December however it is still up to Emaar when they do the handing over.

He promised 100 times to me that everything will be ready before the end of the year. By the way, the local guy (who owns half of North) promised to kill him if it will not be ready... let us hope that this helps...

Harry!! This is the best news during the dark age!! We shall work harder to push Emaar to let them know how serious it is as the client of this project. Dumping several thousand Dirham to finance this project every month and losing the rental return during the delayed period is not a tiny issue for each of us.

yes, you are right. I just sent my September letter to Emaar...

I really don't know whether we can rely on the project manager's statements, but he seemes to know what he was talking about. We shall see soon... Anyway, my concerns are still Eeast and North.

Harry,
I also owe u :cheers:...lets hope that the power of a local guy works...
appreciate all the hard work... even though the feeling of how good buy this apartment was and all the things everyone went through, we will need to keep the pressure on Emaar, at the end of the day, its our property and everyday $ going out of our pockets, so if our pressure help us get our flat one day earlier, that counts...

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Thanks for the good news DH. To the power of the local:cheers:

Anyhowz thanks for ur updates in the past years on this, u been very kind for taking the time to let us know what progress has been going on.

U must be an expert on watching paint dry :), u are truly a jedi now, ur patience as been tested.:)

I think by end of October we really know then where we stand.

Thanks:-)

Since I have to move out of my rental appartment early October I should stay in the Quays... would be easier to watch them...

Despite the "good news" we should stay calm... still so much work left there.

From September 6th...

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WOW! New perspective, thanks for the foto.

Today in West they were cleaning (more or less carefully) the lower floor appartments and they were busy with the large rooms on floor 1 and 2, don't know the purpose of them. Gym has still no floor.

But many workers there at the site.

Hi all, even I am not usually posting I am every day reading your news and, as all of you, really concern about the costly and continuous delays of this project. But now more than ever we should all together push Emaar to the hand over before 2010. Could you tell me the right address / guy to send letters or emails?

Good luck and hope to see you soon around quays.

Hi all, even I am not usually posting I am every day reading your news and, as all of you, really concern about the costly and continuous delays of this project. But now more than ever we should all together push Emaar to the hand over before 2010. Could you tell me the right address / guy to send letters or emails?

Good luck and hope to see you soon around quays.

Michelle Rodrigues
Customer Care Executive
Customer Care Department
Tel +971 4 366 1688
Toll free 800 EMAAR (36227)
Email: MRodrigues@emaar.ae

Annahita Baria
Executive - Property Handover
Tel +971.4.3661688
Toll free 800 EMAAR (36227)
Email: ABaria@emaar.ae

UPDATE 10.09.09

this time not a Friday, but a thursday inspection during working time!

West/podium/entrance
Lobby and gym no progress, from what I have seen, are all appartments ready, in a few appartments the shower glasses are missing, but nothing special. Cleaning in progress. Went into some appartments and the overall impression is not that bad. The bathrooms look very cheap but that is nothing new. Kitchen is nothing special but ok.

Pavement around West still not completed, neither are fountain and that large round plant area. Will take maybe another week or two...

No progress on podium, neither on pavement in front of the villas at the bridge.

East and North
I really do not know what the project manager is dreaming about but those 2 towers are far from completion. Not even the lower floor appartments are ready, kitchen and bathrooms not completed, floors 7-10 look very bad. Only 1 elevator installed in East, in North no elevator yet. Lobbies look very bad as well.

It seems to me that even with 800 (if that figure is really true) workers being there (even if 50% are actually working which would be a good ratio) progress will take its time. For sure another 3-4 months minimum. Maybe it will be better after Ramadan with normal working times.

It is a pitty, but November 1st is and remains a wishful thinking. I think in 4 weeks time we will have a clear picture - and we will we know whether the statement of the project manager is worthwile thinking about.

And yes, everybody that has not sent any letter to Emaar yet, should do that please!

Even if they throw it away we have done what we could do. The more owners are complaining the better.

we looking at 6 months for sure, March i say. Yes they are working now and they are on to it, but just shows because there is so much work to do, regardless of 800 ppl etc, it will take time.

Lets just hope they don't rush it and things start fall apart when we move in.

Well at least we got something to look forward to in 2010, but their again i said that in 2007, 2008 and 2009 so :ohno: all we can do is sit and hope.

Anywaz have good weekend ppl and enjoy:cheers: ur pint of coca cola

For your information, me and a friend also from Quays west are sending both complaining letters demanding the handover dates, and asking to wave the first year maintenance fee, is the least they could do for us after such a long time paying and extending our rents... I suggest to everybody do the same.

See you.

one year is the least they can do ... i would say 3 years minimum for it to have some effect for us... whats the rent prices like now in dubai?.. i mean can you rent a 1 bed for $1500 a month or less? or more?

My mates maintenance is a shocking 30,000 dirhams a year in his 3 bed JBR. that is 15.5 dirhams sq. I don't see why the landlords should pay for the maintenance when the tenant is enjoying the property and all that comes with it. PPl with finance for their properties and maintenance fees wont make a profit from their rent actually be more out of pocket.

A 1 bedroom u can get for $1500 per/month in most places in dubai these days.

In the case of quays a one bedroom is abt 90,000 - 110,000 dirhams, a 2 bedroom is about 150,000 dirhams.

If they make us pay for the maintenance fees, not only have we missed the high rent years of the past, but will have to pay the high maintenance fees which was tailored made for them times of income.

For your information, me and a friend also from Quays west are sending both complaining letters demanding the handover dates, and asking to wave the first year maintenance fee, is the least they could do for us after such a long time paying and extending our rents... I suggest to everybody do the same.

See you.

Hi... i ahve sent the following e-mail to Emaar management as follws:

Further to our earlier correspondence and to the frequent letters we received form Emaar on the hand over dates which are never true, kindly note that I have moved to the US and I have lost interest in Emaar and their continued vague promises. I sincerely regret the day I bought the apartment form a company such as Emaar which supposed to be one of the leading property developer in the area. I have told all my friend about my bad experience with Emaar and the lousy services and attention we receive from Emaar. No action, but nice words, excuses and promises …. !!!

Also, I told everybody I know about Emaar and how they pretend to be professional, but apparently not as they do not keep their promises and they do not fulfill their commitments to their clients. I have warned my friends and urged them not to buy form Emaar specially in the new projects in Jordan.

The only excuse I can give Emaar for the delay is the that Emaar go for bankruptcy, otherwise if they want to continue to be present in the market, they should compensate us for the delay and the damage caused due to their irresponsible act.

I am continuously checking the progress on the project and I suspect that Emaar will hand over the Quay West on Nov. 1, 2009 as they promised, hence a lot of work need to be done on the other buildings. Please advise when is the new expected handover date so I may plan my visit to the UAE accordingly.

Also, I was very much annoyed with the poor quality of the finishing specially the bath rooms and the kitchens which are below average.

I am sending this e-mail to all above, so all should know what Emaar is doing to their customers and how Emaar management is unable to solve or compensate their customers for the damage they cause by delaying the handover of the apartments.

I am wondering if Emaar senior staff and management aim is just to keep their jobs and get paid at the end of the month, or they are still ambitious and have the ego to succeed and do professional work …. !!!

Awaiting the Emaar top management response and action to rectify the delay problem.

We can only guess what Emaar's maintenance fees will be... for comparison, in Promenade 20,5 AED per sqft, in Burj Views Downtown 23 AED per sqft.

Imagine the total fees they collect from Quays: approx. 460 appartments, lets say average 1.000 sqft and 20 AED per sqft... 9,2 Mio AED p.a.!

And, even as an owner living there you still have to pay in addition housing fees along with DEWA - based on the original purchase price from Emaar at a certain percentage (should be 0,5% p.a., so 5.000 AED p.a. for 1 Mio AED appartment).

But that is another sad story, let us first get our keys this year!!

One thing is for sure, Emaar as well as many other developers have acchieved one target: Many people will not repeat the same mistake and buy anything else anymore.

Dubai's real estate market will never recover if they do not change their business ethics - if they have ever had one which I doubt strongly. By the way, Sk Mohammed's new laws published this year leaves no rights to the investors but only to the developers. This is only to protect his own companies - Nakheel and Emaar.