#COMPLETED: MARINA QUAYS, 42F+12F+12F Res (Dubai Marina) [Archive] - Page 5

September 14th, 2009, 11:53 AM

Some photos of the podium from Fri 11 sep 2009

Unfortunately a lot more needs to be done for the handover in 2009.
They still didn't get the power from DEWA and the latest promise is that they will get it by the end of Sep. After that it takes around 60 days for testing and commisioning. So the best case scenario is Dec eventhough I highly doubt it because EMAAR made it clear that separate handover is not possible.
We should keep sending letters that's all we can do at this point.

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boludo

September 14th, 2009, 02:20 PM

I heard from the customer service people that we can give our units back if emaar does not deliver within a year of the expected handover (in my case sept. 08).
In this case, emaar should give us the money back.

Considering the market price now and the expectations ahead, it might be the best business. A 2bd in Majara goes for around 1,4M, vs. 1,8 aprox. in Quays...
So maybe the best deal is to give the apt. back and buy another one that is ready to move and similar quality.

it does not make sense to pay for an apt. at 2005/2006 prices when you can go to the market and save 20%...
ld

dirtyharry1

September 14th, 2009, 02:27 PM

This morning they removed half of the fence facing the road and they started to do the pavement there in front of the villas. Pavement of the entrance road also started.

But guys, in a few weeks we will have a massive job site in front of the Quays: they rip off the entire road for the bloody useless tram and they will do new lanes. That is really a mess and our part of the Marina looks like 1 year ago.

But ok, as long as it is not ready we do not have a problem with that:-)

Spoke to a few foremen this morning, all of them say "in 2 months everything finished".
Really do not know what is going on there.

dirtyharry1

September 14th, 2009, 02:30 PM

boludo, you will get back the original purchase price from Emaar plus little interest. Anybody that bought from the secondary market would be screwed - totally. Remember, 2 beds they sold for less than 1 mio AED.

September 14th, 2009, 04:05 PM

I believe that for some people who bought later it make sense to claim their money back. I remember when I was buying my 1BR back in 2006 on secondary market for less than 1M the very same apartment with EMAAR was 1.2M coz they use to raise the price as the construction was "appearing" to progress. I would really love that some buyers claim the money back coz that will put additional pressure on EMAAR. Btw if you go to court they have to refund your money it is pretty straight forward.

dirtyharry1

September 14th, 2009, 04:30 PM

After all my efforts I want to see it!:-) Even if it is the last thing I will see in Dubai...

I will be in civilization as of tomorrow for 10 days so maybe when I come back I can move in:-)))) haha

boludo

September 14th, 2009, 05:23 PM

Guys, i bought an amazing 3BR+maid unit. Quays north at the edge of the water, 1st floor above the water (210). Problem is i paid 3.0 million. that was 2 years ago...
I have many friends who went for the 2BR in the high tower and paid 1.8MM.

I am talking about the non-typical units, released 2 years ago. not the very beginning, when it was cheaper...

I think market is now 20% below the prices we paid. at least...
Majara 2BR is now 1,6 MM with full marina views... and it's ready! so i would save another 70K on rents until handover...

At this poing, my best deal is probably to give it back, whether i like it or not. at the end, business is business... i hate emaar and the people behind that company.

At least i am making tonnes of money trading with Emaar stocks... :)

dirtyharry1

September 14th, 2009, 06:41 PM

boludo, your type of unit is the best appartment in the development... have been there a couple of times. Layout and views are really fantastic. Think it over...

bizzybonita

September 14th, 2009, 07:10 PM

Where is The CEO of Emaar from this tower ... shame on them :(

italyindubai

September 15th, 2009, 03:45 PM

:cheers: Emaar, Nakheel, Dubai properties, and all the other 600 developers will NEVER give you the money back. Not even Sheikh Mohammed. They screwed themselves also. Dubai stands now naked in front of the world.:bash:

I heard from the customer service people that we can give our units back if emaar does not deliver within a year of the expected handover (in my case sept. 08).
In this case, emaar should give us the money back.

Considering the market price now and the expectations ahead, it might be the best business. A 2bd in Majara goes for around 1,4M, vs. 1,8 aprox. in Quays...
So maybe the best deal is to give the apt. back and buy another one that is ready to move and similar quality.

it does not make sense to pay for an apt. at 2005/2006 prices when you can go to the market and save 20%...
ld

Imre

September 15th, 2009, 04:02 PM

:cheers: Emaar, Nakheel, Dubai properties, and all the other 600 developers will NEVER give you the money back. Not even Sheikh Mohammed. They screwed themselves also. Dubai stands now naked in front of the world.:bash:

its true but investors of this project (Park Island as well) very lucky because they will have apartments soon.

dirtyharry1

September 15th, 2009, 04:31 PM

Yes, that's the point.

Despite of all the shit and delays our properties will be completed. That is not the case with many many other developments.

dirtyharry1

September 16th, 2009, 04:59 PM

Will anybody pass the site in the next days? Would like to know whether the entrance area is completed now...

Imre

September 18th, 2009, 04:32 PM

Guys, i bought an amazing 3BR+maid unit. Quays north at the edge of the water, 1st floor above the water (210). Problem is i paid 3.0 million. that was 2 years ago...
I have many friends who went for the 2BR in the high tower and paid 1.8MM.

you will have one of the best apartment in Dubai Marina, I saw today from the bridge and I think the 1st floor is the best, just on the water :)

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Ossi

September 18th, 2009, 09:56 PM

Hi Imre,

great pics. Thank you for the update.

dirtyharry1

September 19th, 2009, 02:06 PM

The 3bed in East and North is defintely on of the best appartments in the Marina, it has been my favourite since I went in the first time long time ago...

But still lot of work left... scaffolding on floors 9 and 10 still there, also the outside lift. Why don't they go ahead with the land removal around East?

Has anybody seen the entrance area? Is it ready now?

Styler

September 19th, 2009, 03:09 PM

High Times

September 19th, 2009, 03:52 PM

^^

More to the point, do you think asking for your money back will actually get your money back?

dirtyharry1

September 19th, 2009, 05:53 PM

I brought my 2 bed at east for 1.5m, really thinking of asking for my money back, due to the delays, 75% paid. Thinking maybe I can invest the 75% and the remaining 25% in something more suitable and ready, even somewhere other then dubai. It seems a fact that IF we get handover it will be at the earliest march 2010.

In the contract it does say can get get money back over 1 year delay with 6%

My money of 75% just been wasted with the developer for 2.5 years.

Do you guys think within next 2 years prices in the quays will hit 2 million?

Yes, I think so. The Marina is still one of the best developments in Dubai and since buyers are nowadays mostly endusers they will certainly watch out for appartments in prime locations, and the Quays are definitely among them.

And: many buyers do not want to live in a huge tower having appartment no. 475, so East and North are definitely very interesting...

sandstone

September 19th, 2009, 11:30 PM

How close to the metro is the Quay?

boludo

September 20th, 2009, 01:03 PM

guys, here are the facts:
I paid 3,1 for my 3BR unit.
It's a great unit, i know. but 3BR in Majara or Promenade goes now for 2,5 Million. Being mine a "unique unit" maybe that makes up for the difference.
So, I can say i am more or less even, like styler.
Problem is what's going to happen now: are prices going to keep dropping?
I think yes... many units comming into the market now... and next year... many new towers...
So i am going to write the letter and see what happens next (emaar has 3 months after the letter to hand over the unit. if they don't they have to give you the money back, that's what's on the contract)
my hope is that they will be willing to negotiate a new deal, guess they don't want the unit back... they can also just give me the money back and resell...
these people are idiots so no idea which path they'll take...

boludo

September 20th, 2009, 01:05 PM

Metro is like a 10 min walk from quays... across the bridge and then next to Horizons.

sandstone

September 21st, 2009, 09:54 AM

Metro is like a 10 min walk from quays... across the bridge and then next to Horizons.

Cool, thanks Boludo. Makes the quays a desirable location.

September 22nd, 2009, 10:24 AM

Photos of the G level from 20 Sept 2009

Area around West 90% completed, the other two long way to go

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dirtyharry1

September 22nd, 2009, 02:36 PM

Thanks for the pics!

With Ramadan timings and summer midday break being over I hope that they go full speed now... whatever that means:-)

I am still confident that they can complete by December 2009. In 3 months and with maximum work force they could do a lot.

Will see on Saturday...

Formosa Explorer

September 22nd, 2009, 02:52 PM

Hey Guys: Just called Emaar regarding the property hand over. The customer service staff still told me that there is no change for the property hand over date, and we should be receiving the notice from Emaar by the end of this month. Anyway, let's hope we have good luck this time!!

dirtyharry1

September 22nd, 2009, 05:05 PM

This is nothing new... they will not tell you the new date (if there is one) unless it is made public by their letters... 4 weeks prior to November 1st.

If that date is valid, we would be invited to the orientation tour in October.

Still cannot believe that, if you have a look at the fotos...

September 23rd, 2009, 07:22 AM

They might invite us for the orientation tour just to buy some time and keep us quiet and then hand over whenever they finish all of it. Even if you go for the orientation tour there is no guarantee that you will get the apartment 4 weeks after that

dirtyharry1

September 23rd, 2009, 11:48 AM

That's true, I think that will happen.

Formosa Explorer

September 23rd, 2009, 12:24 PM

If it happens as what you said, it is acceptable as well since for those need their apt urgently, they can push Emaar to put them as the first priority to finish the snagging and hand over procedure. I have one friend asked Emaar to do so for his 2BR apt in the Links. However, he had to pay the maintenance fee to Emaar for around one week for the period he occupied his apt before the official hand over date!! Also, the hand over also has 1 month gap in between the Link East and the Link West.

dirtyharry1

September 23rd, 2009, 12:43 PM

I could live with that... better than paying for a hotel room...

Let's wait and see what kind of letter we will receive next week... Never in my live I have been waiting for a letter that curiously...

Formosa Explorer

September 23rd, 2009, 02:08 PM

Dubai Skyscraper

September 24th, 2009, 05:41 PM

we can see 2 nice towers, but i want to see the 42fl one:bash:

dirtyharry1

September 26th, 2009, 04:58 PM

UPDATE 26.09.2009

West/podium
Pavement around West nearly completed, east side of West not done.
On podium/pool deck pavement is maybe 75% completed up to the villas facing the road. No progress in gym, no furniture in lobby.

East and North
As usual the big headache... in East floors 3-6 nearly completed, still only one elevator. Floors 7-10 need some time. North has not caught up, maybe 1 month behind East.
They started with the marble floor in East lobby, but no walls etc. done.
No progress on land removal. Tower crane still on North and outter lift still on East.

As said so many times, East and North will take minimum 2-3 months more.

I think late December/January for the entire development could be realistic as long as they proceed with max. workforce.

Formosa Explorer

September 27th, 2009, 10:16 AM

Hi Guys: I just called Emaar again and the hand over date for Marina Quays West still reamain the same without change. I am not sure how Emaar will arrange the orientation for the Quays West owner especially when there are still a lot of jobs to do for the North and East Tower; however, I do hope they can honor their promise this time!!

dirtyharry1

September 27th, 2009, 01:10 PM

Even if they invite West owners for the orientation tour in October (which I doubt considering the status of the job site; visitors would need helmets!) the actual handover date is still pending and unknown. And any update given by Emaar is not reliable - as we all know.

Anyway, let us wait this week for the letter... As long as they have not issued that letter they will not give you any update on the phone.

dirtyharry1

September 28th, 2009, 04:15 PM

Guys, this morning I went again to the site office in order to see the Project Manager again and to remind him of his promises that he made a few weeks ago.

Coincidentally he was in a meeting with the responsible Senior Officer from Emaar and I decided to join them (hard work:-)

Now, both men (the Project Manager from DCE and the Emaar guy) confirmed the following to me:

They will finish the complete site definitely within 2009. Emaar is putting pressure on DCE on a daily basis. Definitely there will be no "big" delay into 2010...

It is intended to hand over West in November, for this reason they concentrate on the surroundings and common areas of West, so that West owners could occupy their appartments, despite the fact that work on East and North will take longer, however only internally and without disturbing the West owners too much.

By the date of handing over of West not all facilities will be ready.

Commissioning and testing of power supply should be over in 3-4 weeks.

Land removal around the piers shall be done after the tower crane on North has been dismantled which should happen in 2-3 weeks time.

Tomorrow at Emaar they will discuss and decide our project update letter that we should receive by Thursday...

Guys, those two gentlemen were so confident that I will celebrate soon the handing over of my appartment, that I am optimistic that at least christmas we could celebrate in our appartments.

Cross fingers! If they talked bullshit to me for 30min I will pay them a visit again. But not a friendly one.

September 28th, 2009, 04:40 PM

Dirtyharry thanks for the good news. I think by now they might be afraid of you and your revenge if they don't hand it over this year.
Hope that won't happen :)

Formosa Explorer

September 28th, 2009, 04:48 PM

DH!! You are the best. TKS a lot for the best news I have in YR 2009!!

carbajal

September 28th, 2009, 05:05 PM

I hope we can start to see the light at the end of the tunnel . thanks for the great update!.

bertos

September 28th, 2009, 05:29 PM

This is a great news...
we should all be aggressive on one year free annual maintenance fee from Emaar for the damage they have caused us.
I am keeping my fingers crossed for West hand over.

Tightness

September 28th, 2009, 10:12 PM

Oh wow! So NOW they came up with the idea of a separate handover?? We shouldn't give them glory if they deserve shit.

Anyway, thanks harry for pushing them so hard. I sometimes feel that without you, (separate) handover would start in July 2011.

Beppe786

September 28th, 2009, 11:14 PM

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dirtyharry1

September 29th, 2009, 08:58 AM

Guys, good news!

Just received official notification letter from Emaar, last and final update for handing over:

30th November 2009

I phoned them immediately and they confirmed, this date will be definite, no further delay. Orientation tours will start by mid of October. Invitations will follow in due course.

So my two guys said the truth yesterday... and this time I do believe Emaar.

bertos

September 29th, 2009, 09:27 AM

djb

September 29th, 2009, 07:36 PM

Very good news indeed, although very suprising also.

I think the years free maintenance charge is a great idea, however does anyone have any info on the likely charges ?

dirtyharry1

September 29th, 2009, 07:46 PM

I only reckon that they will be too high...

Imre

September 29th, 2009, 08:28 PM

they have to hurry, crane still there , we will see !

Go Marina Quays, GO !

sandstone

October 3rd, 2009, 05:08 AM

Has anyone looked at this loan made available from Emaar?
Anyone from OVERSEAS equired about it? It says for UAE residents only.

Let me know what the experiences are if anyone looked into it, whether you are resident of Dubai or not.

http://www.emaar.com/images/Marketing/Fact-sheet%20Easy%20Loan.pdf

sandstone

October 3rd, 2009, 05:49 AM

Guys - if you or anyone you know may be interested in a 1 BR at the Quay West, 12th floor, please let me know. I am seriously considering selling it now that handover is imminent. PM me and let me know your interest. Study the market and give me a serious price and I WILL consider seriously.

Ossi

October 3rd, 2009, 04:11 PM

Dear East- and North-owner,

did you also received handover information for 30th November or any other update concerning handover from EMAAR?

Imre

October 3rd, 2009, 04:30 PM

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boludo

October 4th, 2009, 10:22 AM

Hi,

North tower is also being delivered by Nov 30th.

According to the Handover department they are starting with snagging for West Tower by Oct 15th. After 2 weeks they will start orientation for East and finally North.
Starting from lower floors to higher.

Remember we will have to pay remaining 20%, tittle deed and service fee all together...!!!

BTW, lots of properties coming into the market now since same delivery date is expected for the Park Island project... So hurry up if you want to rent out or there will be tough competition!

bertos

October 4th, 2009, 05:30 PM

Dear All,
I had a long talk with Emaar and i tried to ask as many question as i could, here is summary of the letters they sent us (for those who haven't received it yet and live abroad) and Emaar customer care reply:

1. Orientation tour will start first week of November (we will be contacted via email or phone to book our appointment)

2. We will all receive final notification letter after Orientation tour from Emaar to make the final payments (20% remaining, service charge and maintenance fee checks, Land registration + Emaar fee)

3. We will all need to pay the maintenance and services charges in 4 instalments for the year (cost is estimated from 14 to 20 AED per sqft- we will give 4 x checks)

4. Land registration and Emaar fee has to be paid prior to key hand over. Land registration is 1% of total contract amount + 3000 or 5000 Emaar fee (god knows for what). If the property is mortgaged by a bank then extra 0.25% of the mortgaged amount also needs to be paid to land registration ( summary: two payments for mortgaged customers).

5. hand over date is 30th November, but depending on the orientation tour, this date could be changed for individual apartments depending on the changes and extra work to be done for damaged apartments ( but it will not exceed more than few days)

6. we will also need to register with DEWA after having certificate of payment from Emaar or your bank (if mortgaged). cost for DEWA registration is 1000 AED

i hope i have covered almost everything, if there are questions, shoot i try to get an answer from Emaar.

PS. i am still not sure if Emaar is using this hand over and orientation to buy more time to delay slowly or they actually going to stick to their promise this time and make sure we all get our apartments by 30th November.

dirtyharry1

October 4th, 2009, 08:11 PM

Remember, starting November 27th there will the long Eid holidays (around 3 days) plus National Day on December 2nd... for sure 29th, 30th, 1st will be holidays... that will be a challenge!

Honestly, East and North will be the real challenge... marble floor in East lobby nearly done, but nothing else, not one floor is 100% completed. Will be very exciting the coming weeks.

Mpower3

October 4th, 2009, 10:21 PM

bertos

October 4th, 2009, 10:56 PM

Mpower3,
you should wait until Emaar contact you for your orientation appointment. it will be your choice of date/time i believe.
my best guess will be 5 days in total you can finish all the paper work, but again it all depends on Emaar.

Mpower3

October 4th, 2009, 11:26 PM

thanks bertos.. for handover and orientation, are those 2 separate trips that need to be made or can it be done at the same time?

bertos

October 5th, 2009, 06:02 AM

Orientation is a tour around the building and your apartment, hand over is when all payment are done and they give you the keys. they are separate. Orientation could be mid October or first week of November, and hand over could be at the end of November.

dirtyharry1

October 5th, 2009, 08:13 AM

hey guys thanks for all the updates... i did just receive the letter from emaar.. my question is im coming from new york city. what dates do you guys think i should make my travel arrangements for? and also how long is all this going to take to finish ?

If you want to do orientation tour and handing over on your own then you must either come twice or stay for around 4 weeks in Dubai, that is usually the time frame between those 2 dates.

uaeinvestor

October 5th, 2009, 11:50 AM

I also live abroad and am not interested in the orientation tour - it is not likely to serve any useful purpose anyway. If I just come for handing/taking over and pay them the dues on line beforehand, would it be possible to complete all the formalities in one day?

Mpower3

October 5th, 2009, 12:16 PM

essentially what im trying to ask is are both events mandatory or can i just come for handover on 30 of november.. or do i have to be at both events...

dirtyharry1

October 5th, 2009, 01:40 PM

October 5th, 2009, 03:27 PM

If you don't do the orientation tour Emaar will do it for you, it is not mandatory to participate personally.

By the way, I just went to Emaar for the preregistration, after 1 hour waiting they sent me away and told me I can do preregistration upon handing over... and after handing over the real registration. Very strange and unorganized as usual. And if you ask 3 reps you receive 3 different answers...

Dirtyharry is it possible to pay that pre registration fee directly in Land dept. I asked Emaar rep on the phone he said no but since they are confused anyway it might be worth double checking with Land Dept. Btw fee break down is 1,000 AED for Land Dept and 2,000 For Emaar for liasing :ohno:

dirtyharry1

October 5th, 2009, 06:25 PM

No, it's not possible, that preregistration is mainly an Emaar issue to generate some profit. If you are finally registring at the Land department some time after handing over there would be no need to PREregister. But as I said, you can preregister upon handing over.

Formosa Explorer

October 7th, 2009, 03:11 PM

Land Dept launched an Oqood system for developers to activate the unit pre registration online. Only the developer can do this for their client. It is true that the charge from land dept is 1000AED, and the remaing 2000AED is Emaar profit.

dirtyharry1

October 9th, 2009, 12:27 PM

UPDATE 09.10.2009

Guys, I really don't know how North should be completed within 7 weeks... it looks like East 2 months ago and even East is everything but not ready...

West/Entrance area/podium
Pavement of front area up to East lobby completed. The ground of West backside has been levelled and pavement should start there maybe tomorrow. Could take around 1-2 weeks. Gym floor has been tiled but unfortunately no view to yachtclub, there is wall in front of the windows... Still no pavement between West and the villas on top floor. Inside West and windows no cleaning done yet.

On podium there is some progress, pavement and green areas maybe 90% done up to north tower. Still lots of material lying around.

East and North
Some progress in East, but still not one floor ready, however some progress on floors 7-10, but still a few weeks to catch up with lower floors. For east I am optimistic for handover by end of November. On North there is a lot of work left. Both lobbies have been tiled with marble up to 80%, otherwise no work done.

Will be very interesting to see the progress in the coming weeks...

Cross fingers! There is some substantial work left...

dirtyharry1

October 12th, 2009, 09:34 PM

Some good news!

Yesterday the West lobby has been furnished with modern black leather/chrome seaters and sofas. According to an Emaar official who was there this evening furnishing will be completed with carpets etc. within this week. Cleaning of the windows and inside will start end of this week and should be finished next week. Orientation tours will be carried out for West in last week of October and early November. He also said "it is a tough schedule" but for West he does not see any problems for handover by November 30th as promised. The tours for East and North will be carried out after West and actual handing over could take place maybe "a few days after November 30th".

October 13th, 2009, 08:17 AM

Dirtyharry thank you for the good news, you made my day. I was on the site this Friday and I realized that there is no chance that they will hand over East and North on 30 November. Having in mind that they were always reluctant to hand over West separately I was sure that we will be getting another "letter" end of the month. Now, this what you are saying make sense, West first and then East and North to follow. My only and biggest concearn is still Dewa, after they get connection it takes at least 45 days for checking systems and commisioning. So for 30 Nov handover we need to see lights in West in couple of days time

Formosa Explorer

October 13th, 2009, 08:41 AM

DH: You are the man!! No 1!!

dirtyharry1

October 13th, 2009, 02:39 PM

Thanks guys, hope to see you all once we have managed to get the keys finally!

We are not through yet, we still have to cross fingers!

I am sure that they will delay North and East a few weeks, maybe up to end of December. Even if they can nearly complete the appartments in East and North by mid of November for orientation they will say that snagging needs some more time... we can only hope that this has no effect on West handover. Actually I am confident this time.

And, yes, stil no DEWA! They expect it to happen this week... need to do a very quick testing!

By the way, since this morning East Tower is now free of any scaffolding (has been there on floors 9 and 10 for a long time). So they only have to remove the outside lift in order to finish East (at least from outside).

Will do a proper inspection on Friday... at least the temperatures are coming down:-)

Styler

October 13th, 2009, 05:38 PM

Hey guys!

i went to the site last night and was looking around, had good chat with engineer. Well west looks ready and i think u guys be in very soon, if not 30th by sometime in December for sure, better then years away like b4, at least light end of the tunnel and as each day passes light gets stronger.

East i dont think be ready by end of nov, or even dec, i think january either with north, or north will be ready feb.

I spoke to emaar and lady said 100% sure all be ready 30th, she said emaar dont give final notification without been sure, wat eva that means.

Any how, at least we can all be happy for the moment.

ps engineer said 3000 ppl working on site everyday, dont know how true that is. Suppose just a true as Liverpool winning the prem league. :lol:

Tightness

October 13th, 2009, 05:58 PM

engineer said 3000 ppl working on site everyday, dont know how true that is.

HAHAHAHA! That was a good one of him!

dirtyharry1

October 13th, 2009, 07:50 PM

3000 ??? And I was laughing when they told me 800 :-))))

Mpower3

October 14th, 2009, 01:45 AM

i got a missed phone call today from emaar ...due to the fact that it was 7:30am new york time i missed it because i was sleeping. however im assuming it was to let me know about the orientation tour and handover. i will call them back tonight and see whats up and let you guys know.

ariantel

October 15th, 2009, 12:58 AM

ariantel

October 15th, 2009, 01:28 AM

By the way Iam in the quay west.

dirtyharry1

October 15th, 2009, 08:44 AM

Hi guys,I have been reading all the posts and all the trouble you guys went threw to get all this information,Good job everyone and thank you !
I just found this site too bad I couldn't join sooner and help out,but just 1 question are these (A..holes) going to give our apartments on 30Th of November or not?
I have to fly in from LA ! And I would be pissed if its not ready and they make me fly over.

Welcome! Better late than never:-)

Nobody knows the exact handing over date now... after the orientation tour and after snagging has been done they will issue a Certificate of Completion stating the exact handing over date. THEN and ONLY THEN you can book your flight... My sincere concerns is firstly DEWA (no power supply yet) and secondly the Eid holidays end of November (28/29/30??) plus National Day on December 2nd - so it could be delayed by 1 week with a good excuse.

dirtyharry1

October 15th, 2009, 03:52 PM

Since today the outter lift on East is gone... at least some progress...

Styler

October 15th, 2009, 04:59 PM

went to site abt 3pm, well didnt looks to busy 2 me, i think the guy got his zeros mixed up and meant 30 rather then 3000.:nuts:

dirtyharry1

October 15th, 2009, 08:12 PM

Well, most of the guys should be inside East and North... At least I hope that:-)

True Blue

October 16th, 2009, 12:19 AM

This site is dead at night. Getting the feeling Emaar are controlling the supply of apartments to the market.

dirtyharry1

October 16th, 2009, 08:42 AM

They do not have the permission to work at night... since the beginning.

Imre

October 16th, 2009, 12:15 PM

they started to remove the crane

16/October/2009

Marina Quays

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Ossi

October 16th, 2009, 12:33 PM

Thanks Imre for your update. It is always a pleasure.

Please can you show us a pic of the tram construction site infront of Marina Quays also.
Have a good time and lets meet during handover in December (hopefully)?

Thanks in advance and best greetings from Germany.

AppleMac

October 16th, 2009, 01:16 PM

They do not have the permission to work at night... since the beginning.

or the money ;)

bluelights

October 18th, 2009, 03:38 PM

slowly but surely things are getting done.....
gotta plan a trip soon, but who knows when East will be ready....

How is the swimming pool area coming along?

Thanks again Imre for your updates and harry

dirtyharry1

October 18th, 2009, 06:32 PM

Styler

October 18th, 2009, 11:42 PM

went c my apartment today in east, almost finished, seems like they done a fair bit of work in the past 2 months, I think december will be def completion for east and handover either dec or jan, depending on snags and dewa.

I think they taking the crane away today for north, as i saw a big lorry pulling up as i was leaving.

October 19th, 2009, 10:55 AM

Guys good news! Apparently they started with Orientation tours a week ago and currently they are doing floor 7 in West and cleaning on the floor 10. They are expecting DEWA every day, definetely this week. I got the info from reliable source from the site.
Owners from floors 1-7? Anyone went for the tour yet?

dirtyharry1

October 19th, 2009, 02:04 PM

m2, are you sure that they started already the orientation tours? Because when you phone Emaar, they say that the tours will not start before the end of October at the earliest.

And yes, the tower crane on North has been disassembled today and should be gone by tonight. So in my opinion they could proceed then with the land removal since it was needed for that purpose.

dirtyharry1

October 19th, 2009, 02:12 PM

Just called Emaar again and they confirmed that the orientation tour has NOT started yet... they expect to start next week

October 19th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Harry I talked to the guy I know from the site and he said that the two representatives from EMAAR (he mentioned the names but I forgot it) are already there for 7 days now. He said that they are doing the tours with the clients but I cannot be 100% sure of course. The only thing we can do is to check with someone who is under level 7.
He also said that EMAAR asked the contractor to rectify all the things they found not satisfactory asap. Maybe EMAAR representatives are doing that right now?
Any how we are geting there and it seems that West will be handed over first and they will keep working on the other two, land removal, etc.

October 19th, 2009, 02:18 PM

Some owners from Park Island got the call and appointment for the Orientation tour today. I was pretty sure that Quays will be handed over before Park Island...

Formosa Explorer

October 19th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Hi Guys: My Apt is in level 7, and I will let you guys know once I get the call from Emaar. I have requested to be the 1st priority for the orientation tour. :)

October 19th, 2009, 02:50 PM

Good luck! :cheers:

Formosa Explorer

October 19th, 2009, 03:39 PM

Dear Mr. XXX,

Thank you for your email.

Please note that subject to the actual readiness of your apartment, you will be invited for the Home Orientation.

We have already placed your unit details on priority and are working towards the certification of your apartment.

Only when it is certified as ready for Orientation from our Property Quality Assurance team, can we make a booking for the same.

Kind regards,

Diana

Diana Azavedo

Property Handover Executive

Emaar Properties PJSC

P.O.Box 9440,

Dubai

United Arab Emirates

dirtyharry1

October 19th, 2009, 03:43 PM

yes, good luck!

Actually they have to start soon with the tours since there are around 300 appartments in West only! Of course only if they want to meet the deadline Nov 30th...

I am very excited to hear the comments of Formosa Explorer once they saw their appartments and the rest.

Dubaipots

October 19th, 2009, 03:59 PM

Hi all,

Just wanted to check what your thoughts were (or whether you knew) which building phase the MQ Villas were included in... i.e. North, East or West? They have been sitting there fairly idle for the last two years or so, so I am not entirely sure when these are likely to be ready and handed over. Has anybody heard anything about these? Any villa owners been invited for orientation yet?

Also, for those who've managed a peak around the site, have you also been able to enter the three bed villas on the ground floor? If so what are your thoughts on the layout, finishing, etc?

Thanks in advance!!! (fingers crossed for this upcoming handover)

Formosa Explorer

October 19th, 2009, 04:07 PM

Hi Dubaipots: I think Quays Villa's construction progress is better than East and North; however, it is still behind West as West has completed long time ago (Around 1 Yr ago). Anyhow, as per the way Emaar handle the product, they should try to push the progress for the Quays villa to meet the handover as well. Don't worry too much on that!!

dirtyharry1

October 19th, 2009, 06:45 PM

The villas on the backside of West are nearly completed, they are doing snagging now, just the ground between West and the villas has to be paved. The 3 beds do have the disadvantage that you have the 2 beds above you, I mean their balconies are directly looking on yours. Otherwise they are spacious and have the same fittings as West (so no marble bathroom like in East and North in the main bathroom). The villas in the middle are facing the very nice Tram jobsite and the road, the other villas between East and North do have good views and should be quiet. They are in the same stage as the other villas, so nearly done. But I don't know when they will be handed over.

Formosa Explorer

October 20th, 2009, 09:31 AM

Presently they are building a fence around the sun bed area... green areas around pool done, just the plants are missing... area between villas and east and north nearly finished and today they painted 'Marina Quays' on the security house...

Hi DH: Please don't tell me the painted " Marina Quays" is the final version as it really looks so downgraded comparing with the building name plate in Al Sahab. Hope they will make a perfect one for this lovely project.

October 20th, 2009, 10:41 AM

I am afraid that whatever you see now is the final version since cheaters are obviously trying to cut the budget big time. Just look at the sh*ty furniture in the West lobby. It looks so poor and inappropriate for the big lobby space, the tables are worst than Ikea furniture. Or the door handle in the lobby behind the reception - like in the 30 years old shopping malls
EMAAR should be really ashamed of their actions and decisions.
And we should all complain to EMAAR and insist that it should be noted as part of the individual orientation tours :bash:

Formosa Explorer

October 20th, 2009, 11:16 AM

One of my friends told me that the product quotation from the suppliers to Emaar is always 3 times more than the regular price. It is simply because Emaar either doesn't pay the money or keep the payment onhold for a very long time. I am afraid that Emaar didn't spend less when purchasing those furnitures; however, we might have to suffer due to the attitude Emaar has toward its' suppliers!!!

October 20th, 2009, 11:41 AM

dirtyharry1

October 20th, 2009, 11:41 AM

Yes, they PAINTED "Marina Quays" on the security house, it looks really very very cheap and they painted it on the house WITHOUT cleaning the wall before!!! All Emaar developments like Al Sahab, Majara or Promenade do have very nice plates, even illuminated.

Regarding the West lobby, Ossi had a very good guess, obviously they used the old furniture from Emaar Business Park for the West lobby, in any case it looks very lousy and totally lost in that huge lobby. Furthermore there are no carpets, no pictures, nothing that would create a nice and warm atmosphere.

m2, you are right, the worst thing are these 2 white doors from the lobby to the lifts, they are so ugly and cheap, it is really unbelievable. Not to talk about the white desk in the middle of the beige lobby. Actually I do not understand them since normally they do a good job in such things. I am excited to see PI lobbies and common areas... maybe we should not look at them... otherwise we get banana.

Yes, all of us should complain about such things, because I am quite sure that what we can see now is the final version. They do not have time to change anything...

"Uncompromising quality, finishes to the highest standards"

dirtyharry1

October 20th, 2009, 11:45 AM

Last week I was in The Fairways North Tower, over there the interior quality is also lousy, the kitchen appliances are from a brand that I even cannot remember and the kitchen itself as cheap as ours and is already falling apart. But they do have the best and nicest pool area I have seen so far (besides Tiara).

But m2 is right, the Quays are not as per the normal Emaar standard.

dirtyharry1

October 20th, 2009, 11:50 AM

Oh, I forgot to say, when you see the black fence around the sundbed area on the pool deck, you will be shocked, it looks like 100years old...everything else but not from this or even the last century:-)

Anyway, let us see what we detect on the orientation tour.

Formosa Explorer

October 20th, 2009, 11:59 AM

Dear Guys: Since we are all aware of these issues, pls make a huge noise when running snagging with Emaar people in the soon future....................

dirtyharry1

October 20th, 2009, 12:46 PM

Don't worry, I will...

October 20th, 2009, 01:07 PM

And I even don't want to start commenting on the apartments and interior finishes. The same day when I get the keys I will start with demolishing the ugly stuff and rebuilding and repainting things in the flat (bar, counter, horrible glass kitchen cabinets, beige walls, beige internal moulions, ugly honey color marble in the bathrooms...)

Some comparison between interiors in South Ridge and Quays

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Imre

October 20th, 2009, 02:21 PM

How is it possible then that all the other Emaar projects have similar quality of furniture/finishes which is miles from Marina Quays (ie. Marina Promenade, South Ridge, Residences, 6 Towers, Links etc...)

quality is bad because of the DCE (main contractor), they can do just rubbish , just look their projects..

also the Emaar reduced the quality of materials some latest projects

Tightness

October 20th, 2009, 02:45 PM

But is there no quality assurance manager from Emaar that is keep kicking assess and putting pressure on Emaar's contractors?

True Blue

October 20th, 2009, 04:04 PM

Quays interiors are the same spec as Al Majara, which was built more that 5 years ago.

South ridge is the same as Marina Promenade, which was finished 18 months ago.

Why is the Quays being built now with the old spec? Is this a sign of how long this project has been ongoing?

dirtyharry1

October 20th, 2009, 04:06 PM

dirtyharry1

October 20th, 2009, 04:08 PM

TrueBlue, yes, that might be the reason. They stick to the old style at the time of the launch...2005. MP has been launched later... and completed earlier!

October 20th, 2009, 06:02 PM

I mean of course it looks lousy and worse than all other projects so far, but it looks as showed in the original leaflets and drawings from Emaar.

Even the wall above the oven is PVC, no tiles... and the worst is the bathroom, looks like the bathroom of a train station... Will also do a modification.

m2, do you have a good source for a new bathroom? I mean idiots there are plenty around, but who does a good job? Anybody?

But what is pissing me off is that after waiting so long we have to modify and ripp off again...

I have a friend who has interior fit out company but he is doing much bigger jobs than fixing ugly apartments. He may do something for me as a favor but if we can find someone to do it in bulk for you, me and maybe some other guys I am willing to get someone else. I can actually find good contractors but they will be asking for more money coz it's a small job. Let's meet and discuss it, maybe next Friday we do inspection together?

Styler

October 20th, 2009, 09:39 PM

guys im in for fit out too and viewing friday if u guys wana meet.^^

ariantel

October 20th, 2009, 10:11 PM

The finishing is just terrible,the bathroom looks like a public bathroom,I cant believe after all this delay,and after all this time that they have kept our 80% money they are gonna give us this finishing !
I will definitely complain about this,we deserve better then this,plz guys lets all tell them so they will do the finish to the standards that we want and deserve.

ariantel

October 20th, 2009, 10:11 PM

we have kept our end of the deal,so should they !

October 20th, 2009, 10:18 PM

guys im in for fit out too and viewing friday if u guys wana meet.^^

I cannot make it this Friday coz I will be out of Dubai but lets definitely meet up either next week or the Friday after

dirtyharry1

October 21st, 2009, 08:21 AM

ariantel, nobody is giving you more credit for your statement than me but it is really unrealistic to expect them to install new bathrooms... I also would like to have the marbled master bathroom as it is in East and North or something similar but that we all have to do on our own. But I will definitely leave my comments to Emaar. They could not even install vanity units with real doors.

Formosa Explorer

October 21st, 2009, 04:10 PM

Hi Guys: I just received a phone call from Emaar for the orientation invitation for Marina Quays West Apt on Saturday morning. They will confirm the timing with me again tomorrow.

dirtyharry1

October 21st, 2009, 04:29 PM

Congratulations!!!! I am very excited about your comments! Hope to see some fotos on Saturday! It is really strange, I just phoned again and they said it has not been certified for the tour, but maybe they just meant my own appartment (floor 19).

by the way, today they started to do the entrance from the road and they planted some green stuff in the rondell below the podium deck. They also proceeded with the land removal around pier east.

Good luck to you Formosa Explorer! Waiting for your comments!

bertos

October 21st, 2009, 04:49 PM

very excited... looking forward for the phone call.

Formosa Explorer

October 21st, 2009, 04:51 PM

I think they will have their certified dept to do the snagging for us first. Once the certified dept approve the apt, then it is our turn for orientation. That is why each owner has different timing for the invitation. I will update you once it is done. of course, I will take more photos from other Emaar ready projects to challenge them for what we have highlighted in the common area. Hope we can work together to let them improve the fixture in the common area together. As to the apt, I have accepted the reality as it is same as Emaar spec for those old projects. We can not do much on that:P:P

Tightness

October 21st, 2009, 07:23 PM

We have to make sure that we accumulate our common concerns (not on an individual apartment basis) to have a strong base

bertos

October 22nd, 2009, 05:55 PM

Hi,
interesting articles about Dubai property market:
"Emaar swings to Q3 profit, sees Dubai prices rising"
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/571330-emaars-q3-profit-up-by-48-on-previous-quarter

"EXCLUSIVE: Dubai rents drop in new RERA index"
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/571312-exclusive-dubai-rents-drop-in-new-rera-index

dirtyharry1

October 23rd, 2009, 01:53 PM

khl

October 23rd, 2009, 07:03 PM

UPDATE 23.10.2009

Entrance area/ground floor/West
The entry 'ramp' from the road has been completed, now the other exit to the road has to be done. 4 palm trees and some other green stuff has been planted in the rondell and around the fountain, also at the stairs down to the promenade, however the stairs are not ready, but the promenade is still full of material and looks like a scrap yard.DCE seems to be a very lousy contractor compared to ARABTEC, see the Silverene site.
No modifications in West lobby. Gym still empty.

Actually I consider it disgusting to do the orientation tour whilst outside cleaning of fassade and windows has not even started! Also on ground floor nearly every wall and column is damaged or very very dirty. Same in parking area, looks like 10 years old already, walls and sealing very dirty. Will take a while to fix and paint everything - if they will do that at all.

Podium and pool deck
Little progress here, but sundbed area still not tiled, fence removed again. Cannot imagine that the podium will be ready in 4 weeks.

East and North
East lobby 50% done with regards to marble walls, lots of work left. North as usual some weeks behind East.

I wonder whether they have DEWA connection since the generators are still running...

So how can water and power connections in the appartments be checked during orientation tour starting tomorrow?

Formosa Explorer, please ask some questions tomorrow...

Hello Dirtyharry1,
I want you all to know that Emaar is laughing at us with this orientation. Whether it is a successful one or not they just want it out of their way. Actually they don’t want to meet with us together so we don’t raise one voice against them. How can they do orientation whilst there’s no power, no clean windows and there are pending work as you mentioned?...etc, so how can we check if anything is done correctly? What is the use of handover if we are prevented from using our apartment due to major corrections if raised? And what use do we have when paying the pre-registration at the same time of handover, meaning that we cannot complain to RAR, where Emaar will neglect any complaint.
For Formosa, this is my mobile number 050-4945021, please contact me so we can have orientation together since we are on the same floor, if they allow it. My appointment is tomorrow at 2pm.

Ossi

October 23rd, 2009, 08:04 PM

Dear owners,
we paid a lot of money for "uncompromising quality and luxury" (brochure) and we will get the worst quality and workmanship EMAAR ever delievered. We will have to pay extreme high service fees so we shouldn´t be afraid to complain. Alone, together and in a body. We shouldn´t ask for a permission - they didn´t ask us for the permission to deliever such a shit so much to late.
We hope to meet a lot of you soon.

Formosa Explorer

October 24th, 2009, 02:04 PM

Hi Guys:

Just done my orientation. To be brief as the below:

A: The whole project is not really ready for orientation. Nobody from Emaar conduct snagging with the contractor before the orientation. The rest part to be briefed as the below.

1: Lobby of the West: The couch and table for the lobby seems to be the final version. Carpet, curtain, paintings, artworks, lamp, all decorative furnitures, and fixtures are not ready. I checked Emaar projects including al Sahab, Marina Promenade, Al Majara, first 6 towers, and all projects in the view. I figured out our lobby could be the worst one among Emaar projects. Please work hand in hand to fight against Emaar to ensure they can at least deliver the same fitting as Al Sahab or Al Majara.

2: Snagging in the apt (No proper pre-snagging conducted by Emaar before the home orientation):

-Generally: All floor tiles are uneven needs to be leveled. Floor tile color variation happens. All windows need to be cleaned externally. Whole apt needs to be repainted properly. paiints are dropped on whole skirting boards' edge. Scratches happens on almost all wooden part of the fixtures. All the screws in the fixtures are screwed unevenly.

- Guest Toilet: Door and door frame has a lot of scratches, and damages. Replacement and polish requested. A lot of wall tiles and floor tiles are cracked. Replacement is required. Floor tiles are not levelled evenly

- Bedroom: Wall around the alluminum frame needs better finishs. Door and door frame has multiple scratches. Wardrobe needs to be repolished and the door need to be repainted. Drawer screws are unevenly fixed, and not levelled even vertically. Floor tile uneven, and color difference is big

- Bathroom: Floor tile uneven. Clothes holder is loosen. A lot of floor tile and wall tiles need to rework. Babinet below wash basin is chipped. Replacement required. Marble layer above WC needs better finishes on the edge.

- Living room: Floor tiles uneven. Alluminum window frame needs better finishing all around. Switches need better finishing all around. Marble breakfast counter chipped, and the joint in between the marble layer and the vertical wooden wall has a big gap.

- Kitchen: Skirting board needs better finish. Scratches and chips everywhere. Drawers and cabinet doors uneven.

- Utility Room: It is very funny that the contractor uses silicon to fill the gap in between the utility room door frame and the kitchen door frame. You can find the uneven white color soften silicon wall which is really scary.

To be sum up. I am very disappointed about the way Emaar arrange the orientation. According to my experience and knowledge regarding Emaar property orientation, the owner should only have few problems need to be highlighted during the tour. I found that we probably has to conduct the snagging for Emaar certify dept by ourselves.

Again, the common area is the first impression of the visitor to Marina Quays, we should push Emaar to deliver this project with right furnitures and fixtures together.

Imre

October 24th, 2009, 02:29 PM

this project not ready from outside,still lot of works left , why the Emaar invited to do the snagging for unfinished buildings?

dirtyharry1

October 24th, 2009, 02:39 PM

Oh god, it is exactly as I expected... Emaar said, each appartment has to be certified by Emaar itself prior to Orientation. Obviously this was only bullshit, and despite having so much time for snagging inside the appartments are in a lousy condition.

I think those Orientation tours on a complete job site have only one purpose: to keep the owners quiet for the time being. If they rectifiy all problems in and outside they will have to delay again. I consider all appartments to be refurbished... because nobody will be happy with taht shit quality.

If they leave the West lobby as it is now, I will have a pee in it...every morning when I leave.

dirtyharry1

October 24th, 2009, 02:41 PM

Formosa, thank you for that information!

Formosa Explorer

October 24th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Formosa, thank you for that information!

You are welcome!! I heard from the staff from Emaar assisting the orientation, Emaar is pushing the delivery of 5 projects including Marina Quays, Park Island, The Loft, The Address Hotel Dubai Marina, and one more project to be handed over by the end of this year in order to collect the balance payment from the client; however, though cash flow is very important, it is still not the right way to get it by the current way Emaar is doing now. The statement in the orientation pack turns to be a big joke " Distinctive design, uncompromissing quality, and an unmatched position make Marina Quays your ultimate home in Dubai Marina................" Sigh........

BTW, I think it is not necessary to post the picture of the apt as it is quite scary after I put around 500 blue stickers in my apt:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts: I am thinking about requesting 2nd snagging with Emaar, and I hope they can do it right for the 2nd orientation!!

Formosa Explorer

October 24th, 2009, 03:24 PM

this project not ready from outside,still lot of works left , why the Emaar invited to do the snagging for unfinished buildings?

Hi Imre:

1: Keep the clients' mouth shut due to the long waiting!!
2: Let the client understand that it really take a longer period of time to get the property handed over due to the quality issue and a lot of rework might need to be done!!
3: Try to get the 20% balance payment from the clients ASAP!!
4: I even noticed that Emaar will only issue a cleaning and pest control voucher valid for 4 months for the client to request the contracor for the cleaning and pest control which can save Emaar a lot of time and no need to clean the apt before handing over the apt.

Formosa Explorer

October 24th, 2009, 04:47 PM

Hi Guys:

Pls help to complain to Emaar for the decorative design/pattern of the pavement of the entrance/drive way area in the ground floor. It can't be compared with those in other Emaar projects. For other projects, they have special design of the pavement if you check it carefully.

dirtyharry1

October 24th, 2009, 04:56 PM

Formosa Explorer

October 24th, 2009, 06:52 PM

Formosa, do they have DEWA connection? Power and water in your appartment?

Did they say that the lobby will be decorated later (carpets, lamps etc) or is this really the final version???

Did they show you around or they showed just your own appartment?

Did they show you your parking slot?

Yes, the entrance area is quite boring and unkind, not comparable to all other Emaar projects. For sure it was the cheapest one.

1: No Dewa connection yet; however, there is still power and water in the apt which I don't know how they arrange

2: Yes, yet the table and sofa could be the one will be fitted there

3: Only apt took long enough time as only 1 hr allowed. Also, they didn't show me the parking slot

4: I just hope Emaar can make sure the lobby fixture can present the same taste comparing with other projects now!!

Imre

October 24th, 2009, 07:26 PM

Just saw tonight, the outside elevator is still there :)

dirtyharry1

October 25th, 2009, 10:35 AM

Are there any other reports from the orientation tour?

Formosa Explorer

October 25th, 2009, 12:17 PM

Just visited Emaar customer service center in Greens, and complained what I have seen during the orientation, and the furniture in the lobnby. The customer service staff said that she will have the concerned personal call me back regarding my questions. When I left her office, I suddenly found the couchs in the Quays West lobby is exactly same as what it is in the Emaar customer office's waiting room....................:(:(:(

dirtyharry1

October 25th, 2009, 12:38 PM

Formosa Explorer

October 25th, 2009, 01:59 PM

Yes, this is what Ossi and myself guess... they simply took old used stuff and put it in West lobby...

However we should make sure that the quality in our appartments will be acceptable and that all the faults (at least as many as possible) will be rectified - however I am afraid of these idiots working again in the appartments! If they change one tile they will probably damage 3 other ones... and why should they do it all of a sudden properly after they had fucked it up totally in the first place?

Did they confirm again that handing over will be November 30th? I mean 2009:-)

Let us know what the "concerned personal" told you...

Just talked to the concerned personal:

1: Emaar certify dept did make the snagging before the orientation. In order to speed up the property hand over, Emaar decided to compile their snagging and the clients snagging to let the contractor to rectify in one shot. I have requested the 2nd orientation already, the Emaar staff told me in most case they only allow one orientation for each client. I told him Emaar didn't conduct the orientation in a proper way so that 2nd Orientation is required.

2: Current furniture in the Quays West lobby is for temporal usage. They will have proper fixture for the lobby

3: Parking lot hasn't been allocated so far

4: Emaar still try to hand over the property ASAP in order to collect the balance payment

October 25th, 2009, 03:34 PM

Good job Formosa, we should really push hard now with all the complaints coz I really believe that whatever we manage to get before the final payment is final. After they receive all the money they will have other priorities/buildings to deal with.
So guys please insist to address all the issues (including the common areas, parking finishes etc.) in the snagging forms and follow up/call Emaar regularly after that.

carbajal

October 25th, 2009, 08:59 PM

guys, I know that if we do not pay the last installment they do not handover the property, but, do you know if is possible to delay the last payment (through the bank in case of mortgaged properties) if the apartment has not been fixed after our complanints during orientation tour? I see this is the only way to put a little pressure with this kind of people. Money is king.

My experience in this country tells me that once we pay it will take ages to get something fixed...and in my case I have already paid my rental contract till feb 2010 so I would not mind to wait for 1 month more, I have lost lots of money already as many of you..

thanks.

dirtyharry1

October 25th, 2009, 09:40 PM

Actually I am asking myself always two questions: Firstly, why should Emaar treat our development different than MP, PI or whatever? I have friends owning and living in Emaar developments (Greens, MP, Lakes) and they were and are quite happy with Emaar's reaction towards snagging list and later complaints. Secondly, why should Emaar damage their reputation resulting in an avalanche of complaints by not taking care of the snagging list and handing over uncompleted appartments or lobbies or facilities?

I mean, yes, the given reports are disgusting and shocking but in case the defects will be rectified by the time of handing over, I would be happy... and if the pool and gym will be opened a few weeks later, yes, not nice but somehow acceptable. And yes, the material quality of kitchen and bathrooms is by far not top of the range but if all tiles and floors are technically in order, what to do... we all signed the contract knowing (and accepting) the drawings and draft fotos.

On the other hand, threatening Emaar by not paying the final installment unless everything is ok will not be helpful, they simply have more pull...

I am trying to be a bit more optimistic... otherwise I can shoot myself soon...

AppleMac

October 25th, 2009, 09:42 PM

Photos from this afternoon on Captain Jack

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l212/sids666/IMG_0008-1.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l212/sids666/IMG_0011-1.jpg

Formosa Explorer

October 26th, 2009, 05:49 AM

Formosa Explorer

October 27th, 2009, 08:40 AM

Hi Guys: I have sent Emaar the below letter to request the improvement for the apt and the common area. If you think it helps, you might do the same as well

Our Reference: XXX/EMA/DM/MQW/09102601 Date 2009/10/26

Kind Attention: Emaar Customer Care/Property Handover Department

Reference: Unit XXX, Marina Quays West, Dubai Marina

Subject: Follow Up: Request of the Apt rework, Quality improvement for Marina Quays Unit XXX, and the furniture/fixture quality assurance for the common area in Marina Quays

Dear Emaar Customer Care/Property Handover Department

I am XXX, the owner of Unit XXX, Marina Quays West. Reference to my letter ref no: XX/EMA/DM/MQW/09102501, and my discussion with DEC engineer during the 2nd visit to the Marina Quays today, I would like to highlight some issues as the below:

A: Lobby of the West: The DEC engineer told me the couches and table is the final one which is different from what your customer service staff told me on 2009/10/25. I need Emaar to inform me if the mentioned furniture, Carpet, curtain, paintings, artworks, lamp, all decorative furniture, and fixtures would be similar as or better than other Emaar projects. The current couches and table which is same as the Emaar customer service center waiting room is not acceptable.

B: Marina Quays Project Name Plate: The current Marina Quays Project name plate is made by Styrofoam with a silver layer. Please inform me if it is the final name plate for this project or Emaar will have an official name plate with same quality as Al Sahab, or Marina Promenade latter on.

C: Landscaping: Why Emaar put so many baby plant in the floor bed aside the stars toward the Marina walkway? I remember Emaar’s landscaping used to be excellent and looks great once the project is handed over to the client. With the current baby plants, how long do you suggest we should wait for a better landscaping scenery?

D: Apartment:

As side from the issues I have highlighted in XXX/EMA/DM/MQW/09102501, I would highlight the below again as I am worry the contractor will only rectify my apt through the most easy way.

1: Whole floor tiles need to be removed and leveled even first so that the new tile can be paved properly. Any tile with chip, crack, or damage is not allowed. Tile with too much color difference is not allowed as well. Tiles on the walls needs to be replaced if there is any damage happens.

2: All walls should be vertically straight

3: All cabinet front panel and drawers should be placed evenly vertically, and horizontally. Screws should be screwed and match properly with the surface of each wooden plate. Kitchen sliding door should be fixed properly. All the chips, cracks should be fixed properly. If the cracks is too big, pls replace them directly

4: All the joint/seam of different parts in the apt such as the window frame, wall, marble layer, toilet bowl, socket and wooden part must have a much better finish.

5: Whole apt should be repainted again to ensure the color is the same. Paint shouldn’t drop to other places such as tiles, wooden parts, skirting boards, marble layer, and window frames.

Please be noted 2nd orientation is requested. Please inform me when can I conduct it in the near future.

dirtyharry1

October 27th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Formosa, well done, I am excited to hear Emaar's response, but I doubt that you will be happy with it... once I have carried out my Orientation Tour I will write the same letter to them. I am really frightened that I will face the same terrible quality and damages all over. At least they should know that if everything remains as it is this would not be acceptable at all. And I do not understand Emaar, usually they have a good hand in landscaping and doing common areas.

The foreman who sleeps their every night in the entrance also told me that new furniture will be installed in the lobby... however I doubt that... why should they do the lobby twice????

By the way, yesterday they started to pump out the water from inside the pillars around the Pier of East into the Marina... Does anybody know what these pillars are all about? Do they pump out the water in order to remove those pillars? Strange...

Formosa Explorer

October 27th, 2009, 09:30 AM

Hi DH: :) As I said, all of us should drive Emaar to deliver a better project and finish together. Whatever I am doing now is trying to bring the happy ending for everyone. So we should encourage other investors to do the same for our community together!!:banana:

boludo

October 27th, 2009, 09:24 PM

the parking fountain is working!
maybe dewa is up & running...

dirtyharry1

October 27th, 2009, 10:06 PM

It would be really time for DEWA to join the game!!!

Has anybody else had his tour?

October 27th, 2009, 10:18 PM

I called Emaar today asking when is my orientation tour scheduled for and they said that my apartment is not certified yet. As soon as it is certified (whatever that means) I will be invited (she said maybe even today or tomorrow). What a joke.
I just hope they didn't stop with the orientation when they realised that there are to many things to be rectified.
And we may get the bloody letter again in couple of days with the new excuse :bash:

dirtyharry1

October 27th, 2009, 10:30 PM

m2, "certified" means, that Emaar has checked your appartment and already carried out the necessary snagging - hahahaha! No joke, that was Emaar's response to the same question.

On which floor is your appartment?

October 27th, 2009, 11:08 PM

Floor 11, it should have happened already

Smartguy

October 28th, 2009, 12:11 AM

My apartment is on the 8th floor West tower and I have scheduled my orientation next Saturday. Any advices

October 28th, 2009, 07:26 AM

My apartment is on the 8th floor West tower and I have scheduled my orientation next Saturday. Any advices

Smartguy try to record all snaggs, add a complain note about furniture in the lobby and the signage board and give us an update once you finish your orientation.
Cheers

dirtyharry1

October 28th, 2009, 08:00 AM

My apartment is on the 8th floor West tower and I have scheduled my orientation next Saturday. Any advices

So we have reached only floor no. 8 for the tour?????

Unbelievable, if they need 1 week for 2 floors my tour (floor 19) will be just before Christmas...

October 28th, 2009, 09:44 AM

I talked to Emaar right now about those new fees for DLD. The guy explained that in order to get your apartment you need to pay only 3,000AED for pre registration and then later, after hand over you can apply for the Title Deed with Land Department (and pay that ridiculous amount of money for the peace of paper which basically doesn't mean anything).

Different scenario is if someone is buying the apartment in either Quays or Park Island now when THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION IS ALREADY ISSUED for both projects (that's what the guy told me which means no further delays).

This basically means you cannot do the transfer to your name with Emaar for off plan property anymore because they consider it completed projects - that is why DLD registration needed in order to sell.

I hope this clarifies who needs to pay now to DLD and who doesn't

October 28th, 2009, 02:56 PM

Just got a call from Emaar to do the orientation on Sunday :cheers:

Formosa Explorer

October 28th, 2009, 03:10 PM

Just got a call from Emaar to do the orientation on Sunday :cheers:

M2: Congratulations!!!!

Imre

October 28th, 2009, 04:49 PM

28/October/2009

Marina Quays

outside elevator still there

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dirtyharry1

October 28th, 2009, 05:31 PM

Congrats, m2!!!

Waiting for your report...:-)

bertos

October 28th, 2009, 08:49 PM

hi Guys,
is there an order to follow per floor?
we are on second floor but haven't received a call for the tour!!

dirtyharry1

October 28th, 2009, 09:01 PM

bertos, most probably they have forgotten you and you must wait until they have done floor 39 and to start again:-)

No, according to Emaar there is no special order... they just told me that they started with floor 7, now they are at floor 8 and 9. But each appartment has to be 'certified' by the contractor and Emaar to do the tour. As usual, no order and logic at all.

Let us know when yours is due!!!

bertos

October 28th, 2009, 10:35 PM

well, tbh I would prefer to be the last so i take note of all issues and throw it at them when I go for mine with my eyes closed :).

I will surly let you know when mine is due.

October 28th, 2009, 10:42 PM

Thanks guys, count on the report and I will also try to make some photos

dirtyharry1

October 29th, 2009, 01:37 PM

Guys, if you believe it or not, the cladding of suite 01 facing the road has been cleaned today... now they proceed with the side facing the yacht club. At least Ossi will have some daylight during his orientation tour...

Today they also started with 2 more exits to the road, the one on the right side at the bridge and the one in the middle below North. They also started to clean up the promenade at the bridge. And the pumps are still pumping around Pier East.

khl

October 29th, 2009, 02:15 PM

hi, Marina Quay West Owners

I have sent the following email to Property Handover Department and i will forward EMAAR's reply as soon as i will receive it

Date 2009/10/29

Kind Attention: Emaar Customer Care/Property Handover Department

Reference: Unit 705, Marina Quay West, Dubai Marina

Subject: Request for safety rework priority, Quality improvement for Marina Quays Unit 705,

Dear Emaar Customer Care/Property Handover Department

I am the owner of Unit 705, Marina Quay West, Mr. ________. This is further to my previous request from your engineer during my orientation dated October 24, 2009, regarding the request of removing the balcony step as shown in the attached pictures. This is a considerably high step (around 28 cm) that forms a hazardous and unsafe environment for the elderly (with canes) and handicapped people to use the balcony. Imagine them falling down when crossing this unsafe step which will hurt them or even worse cause death. It is also considered a weak point from an architectural design and it is an unusual practice to have a step with such height, I doubt this is part of Emaar’s production for their customers. As I am sure that Emaar is fully aware about their responsibility towards their customer’s safety and the user of their production from any future accidents. I am expecting a soon response from EMAAR in removing/rectifying this unnecessary balcony step due to safety priority.
Thank you for your cooperation.

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October 29th, 2009, 02:19 PM

I talked to the project manager form site today. He said they got DEWA connection but external one. That means they got the power and now they are testing it before they connect the building on it (internal). He said should not take more than 3-4 days.
I don't know if this makes any sense since I am not familiar with the procedure and I am not sure if it is true, just sharing the info

FWIW

October 29th, 2009, 03:39 PM

dirtyharry1

October 29th, 2009, 03:42 PM

He told me that it takes normally 45 to 60 days, but they will do it in 30 days since they are in a hurry... but 30 days would be too long...

By the way, Nov 30th will be definitely Eid holiday...27th Friday, 28th start of Eid, 29th Eid, 30th Eid, December 2nd will be National Day... so I think they will delay to December 3rd...

dirtyharry1

October 29th, 2009, 03:44 PM

By the way, why did they paint everything in this ugly yellow...

October 29th, 2009, 03:55 PM

Harry with the holidays coming I think there is no chance they will give any apartments before let's say mid December but even that we should consider a big success.

Regarding the color of the walls I would say that is the standard in Dubai since all Emaar projects and JBR are the same. I really hate the color and after repainting my South Ridge apartment in white it got completely different feel. I suggest to everyone to do it as soon as they get keys coz it makes huge difference and makes space looks bigger. The only thing with this one is that you will end up with nice white walls and horrible looking moulions with the same ugly yellow. Painting the moulions will be bit more difficult but I will do it for sure

dirtyharry1

October 29th, 2009, 05:26 PM

But on December 16th I will be flying home...:-) Lousy timing from Emaar as usual...

True Blue

October 29th, 2009, 06:18 PM

khl

October 29th, 2009, 07:20 PM

You have no chance of them altering this. In buildings where there is a low threshold you step down into the balcony outside. Looks like your balcony is raised for some reason. They need this high threshold to stop the apartment flooding when the heavy rains occur. They do fit drains on the balconies but they tend to fill with sand and block.

A ramp and a handrail is your only hope.

Have you ever seen a threshold with such dimension (28cm high, and around 30cm wide) being a normal practice in balconies? Why haven't this threshold been built like this in other balconies, it even doesn't exist in the opposite quays (east and north buildings). Is it required to have a small private swimming pool in each balcony? Anyway, they will carry full responsibility for any future chaos and with any unsafe Emaar production, even if they do not remove it, still it will be their responsibility, especially as I have risen it in this letter. This is a good point that you have risen about the drainage. I advise every owner to check whether they have a suitable drainage for their balcony in their orientation.

khl

October 29th, 2009, 10:46 PM

hi all,

i am focussing and presenting on some defaults in the products caught during my orientation and were registered as notes. I will start with the wooden work.

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 10:50 PM

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 10:56 PM

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 10:59 PM

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 11:01 PM

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 11:24 PM

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 11:28 PM

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 11:28 PM

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khl

October 29th, 2009, 11:29 PM

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dirtyharry1

October 30th, 2009, 12:36 AM

Obviously those work has been carried out by complete uneducated and blind idiots. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to note those defects... you just have to open your eyes!! It is really shocking... imagine the same idiots have done the piling and all structural work not to talk about electrical work... we must be happy if the tower does not fall apart soon. That "wood" they have used for the doors etc. is really the cheapest one.

ariantel

October 30th, 2009, 12:40 AM

Yehiadeneh

October 30th, 2009, 05:30 AM

seeing all these complications and low quality finishing just makes me regret buying a apartment.
not considering the fact that I have to fly in from across the world just to get the apartment which I have to fix,pay the remaining %20 and renting it out ! (if it gets rented out?)
can anyone plz tell me when should I fly in to get things done (registration , handover,etc...) Are they really going to handover the west building
on November 30th? or should I be there on mid December?
by the way anyone on the 17th and 31st floor?
Thank You

I am on the 31 floor and nobody from Emaar has contacted me yet. I will travel from USA, mid Nov. to the Middle East and shall try to be close to the seen

Also, I am very much disappointed with the poor quality of the finishing, and shall not pay Emaar a penny unless they rectify the quality problem. I believe all of us should do the same and hold the final payment.

dirtyharry1

October 30th, 2009, 08:41 AM

I am on the 19th floor nobody contacted me either... considering the past progress on the orientation tours I would guess they have done around 2-3 floors per week... if they go on like this it will take 12 weeks for the orientations...

By the way, the first Quay West appartments are advertised for rent in the local print media. 1 bed for 90-100K AED "ready to move in on December 1st" Optimistic landlords...

dirtyharry1

October 30th, 2009, 11:19 AM

UPDATE 30.10.2009

Just had a nice conversation with the foreman there, he confirmed the following:

New and appropriate furniture for West lobby (and East and North) will be supplied within the coming 2 weeks, the current one is temporarily until East and North lobbies are finished as well. Those lobbies have made some progress, should be ready soon.

West DOES have DEWA connection, test is running well and will be completed in the coming week, then the hole between the road and West lobby will be filled again.
East and North are running with generators, no connection to DEWA yet since their electrical system is not ready.

Allocated parking for West, entry and exit will be completed in the coming weeks as well. Podium and pool deck will be completed in 3 weeks time.

Inside cleaning of West will be completed by the end of the coming week, outside cleaning has started but will only be completed once the pool deck has been done.

East and North will NOT be completed by November 30th (what a surprise!), they reckon December 31st or in January 2010 at the latest, however West will be definitely completed and handed over by November 30th.

Sounds all good (at least for West owners), but we will see...

Today they started to cut the pillars around Pier East in pieces and to remove same. 5 pumps are pumping the water out of that area into the Marina. Once these pillars are gone the remaining land will be removed. Same will happen to Pier North in a few weeks time.

4 weeks to go now...

khl

October 30th, 2009, 08:26 PM

date 30/10/2009

hi all

these photos were taken 6 days ago,

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khl

October 30th, 2009, 08:32 PM

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khl

October 31st, 2009, 12:07 PM

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Ossi

November 1st, 2009, 12:11 PM

Dear homeowner/snaggers,
when you will do the snagging take a rule with you. I am sure the total area in our sales contracts are different to the total area we will receive. I calculated some units with the lengths and the widths shown in the floor plan/sales contract. This square footage differs from the numbers calculated/provided by EMAAR shown in the upper right corner of same sales contract.

unit sales contract metrics floor plan difference total difference %
unit 01: 103,40 m² 89,04 m² 14,36 m² -13,9%
unit 06: 72,00 m² 62,32 m² 9,68 m² -13,4%
unit 07: 116,50 m² 105,66 m² 10,84 m² - 9,3%

November 1st, 2009, 02:15 PM

Guys I just finished my orientation tour and I have to say that materials and finishes are even worse than I expected (and I expected very bad quality)

So let's start:

1. Generally walls and ceilings need to be repainted completely
2. All the cabinets ans doors need to be either repolished/repainted/fixed or replaced
3. Tiles are chipped or broken everywhere
4. Marble around the windows is broken at 2-3 places
5. Some drawers are not fixed properly
6. Bath fixtures are loose
7. WC seats stained with urin (ask for replacement my experience is that you cannot clean it)
8. Generally sealants and gaskets need to be replaced/fixed on many places
9. Most of the drainages are not leveled properly
10. Balcony drainage is blocked
11. Balcony handrail is scrathed everywhere
12. Tiles are not leveled generally
13. Balcony door is not closing properly
14. Kitchen sliding doors are not closing smoothly
15. Apartment is so dirty taht you cannot even see everything

etc...

The guy from Emaar noted everything and he agreed with 90% of comments.
He said that major ones like floor tiles, scrathes and repainting will be rectified before the handover (30 Nov) and some minor ones later during the warranty period (read never).

He said that he is working with Emaar for 6 years and he handed over hundreds of apartments. According to him it is possible to rectify most of the things in 1 month time which I highly doubt. Anyway let's see...

One good news - they brought the new furniture in the lobby. It's still wrapped but from what I saw not the best but much better than the one which is there.

All in all - disgrace... thanks Emaar for unprescedent luxury :bash:

AppleMac

November 1st, 2009, 02:21 PM

Dear homeowner/snaggers,
when you will do the snagging take a rule with you. I am sure the total area in our sales contracts are different to the total area we will receive. I calculated some units with the lengths and the widths shown in the floor plan/sales contract. This square footage differs from the numbers calculated/provided by EMAAR shown in the upper right corner of same sales contract.

The total square footage in your sales contract includes the balcony and a percentage of the common areas, so is not representative of the actual size of your unit.

Formosa Explorer

November 1st, 2009, 02:27 PM

Hi!! M2: great job. I think it is about time to shoot Emaar a letter for all your concern.

Tightness

November 1st, 2009, 08:47 PM

The total square footage in your sales contract includes the balcony and a percentage of the common areas, so is not representative of the actual size of your unit.

I understand the balcony but a percentage of the common areas?? That's ridiculous!!!

AppleMac

November 1st, 2009, 10:23 PM

That's ridiculous!!!

no - thats Dubai :)

MikeW

November 2nd, 2009, 10:05 AM

Referring to the online snag lists on page 60:
As a prospective buyer when I type in Marina Quays into google, this is one of the first pages that pops up. I dont own any apartments in this building but I do elsewhere in the marina. But if I did I would have the good sense not to air my dirty laundry in public.

I suggest that you guys form a seperate site with login required... for owners only.... to discuss problems with your properties. This thread is ultimately devaluing your apartments and putting off potential tenants and buyers. I suggest this out of compassion not criticism. Every property has its problems and Marina Quays is not that bad really in the grand scheme of things.

Good luck all.

Formosa Explorer

November 2nd, 2009, 02:02 PM

Cleaning of Marina Quays West lobby started already. temporal couches and tables in the lobby have been removed. Some new couches and lobby funitures are in Quays West lobby now. Can't wait to see the final setup!!

Ossi

November 2nd, 2009, 03:28 PM

Hi owners,

I got my date for the orientation for my 14th floor apartment on Sunday 8th November.
I will be in Dubai Thursday night till Wednsday evening and would like to meet some of you. Please pm me for an appointment.

Formosa Explorer

November 4th, 2009, 09:58 AM

Ossi: congratulations!!! Wish you have a nice trip and orientation to Dubai.
The building is getting ready day by day actually!!

carbajal

November 4th, 2009, 10:23 AM

FYI, I am in West floor 15th and I will do my orientation tour on Saturday the 7th. I will keep you informed if I see something different of what has been posted already.

Ossi

November 4th, 2009, 10:34 AM

Hi Formosa explorer,

can we meet during our stay?

Formosa Explorer

November 5th, 2009, 07:43 AM

Hi Formosa explorer,

can we meet during our stay?

Sure. Give me a buzz when you are here. Pls check the MSG I have pm you for the contact.

Mpower3

November 5th, 2009, 09:53 PM

hey guys, im having a little trouble with making it to the orientation tour. would anyone be able to go for me i would be happy to compensate anyone who does, please private message me if you would be able to help me out.

sandstone

November 6th, 2009, 01:26 AM

mpower3 - I sent you a PM earlier. Let me know if you get any volunteers for the orientation.

jsmith6

November 6th, 2009, 04:12 PM

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dirtyharry1

November 6th, 2009, 05:23 PM

They filled already the pool with water...?????

Formosa Explorer

November 6th, 2009, 08:50 PM

They filled already the pool with water...?????

YES

True Blue

November 6th, 2009, 09:41 PM

Leak test!

True Blue

November 6th, 2009, 09:47 PM

Don't understand why they are running the dewatering in the above pictures. The blue vertical tubes look like new suction lines being installed. Could indicate a problem with water ingress somewhere.

Tightness

November 7th, 2009, 12:00 AM

The pool is so tiny :(

Dubaipots

November 7th, 2009, 05:21 AM

Actually Tightness, not sure if you have been to the pool deck or not, but (to add some positive comments on the development :)), when I visited the site last week I was pleasantly surprised by the size of the pool. Its a lot bigger than the recent photos make out... in fact a lot bigger than I have seen in other developments around the place. I think that whole pool deck area (with its views out to the Marina) is fantastic. Once the landscaping is in we will see, however Emaar are normally pretty good with this.

Does anybody know where the gym, squash courts, etc are going to be located? Anybody viewed these areas? Are they inline with other Emaar developments which are pretty generous with these?

Thanks!

dirtyharry1

November 7th, 2009, 06:13 AM

Yes, the pool is much bigger and deeper than those in MP and PI. The 2 pools of MP are a joke, only a few sunbeds there and sizewise only proper for children.

MQ and especially the podium deck will turn out very nice, the location is unbeatable.

The gym is in West, 3rd and 4th floor... well sized. The squash courts are also in West.

DxbPC

November 7th, 2009, 06:23 AM

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Dubaipots

November 7th, 2009, 06:35 AM

Hi there,

I have a friend who has just set up her own company managing snagging and property inspections in Dubai. She completed the snagging on one of my other properties in JLT and did a great job. Very thorough - great report, photos, followup, etc. Once my MQ property is ready I will definitely use her services again.

If you are interested PM me and I can provide contact details.

dirtyharry1

November 7th, 2009, 09:35 AM

Just received phone call from Emaar for Monday...!

Formosa Explorer

November 7th, 2009, 09:48 AM

Just received phone call from Emaar for Monday...!

Congratulations!! DH. I spoke to the foreman of the landscaping yesterday, he said Emaar requested his company to finish the landscaping by 2009/Nov/7, and he think ht should be able to finish it on 2009/Nov/8.

I believe you can find a better landscaping scenery during the orientation.

khl

November 7th, 2009, 02:29 PM

hi DxbPc,

i liked the picture that you used as your logo showing the beach in Dubai Marina. I am intending to create a website showing our project Marina Quay West surrounded by pictures that shows facilities within 1km like tramway line, metro, malls,...etc. Please, can you send this picture amongst other pictures if any that will help me in this regard?, and I will provide you the website when it is completed, to you and anyone that wants to share in this regards. This will be a wonderful and helpful way for advertsing in renting, selling or mentioning the appartment or as a hole Marina Quay project.

Tightness

November 7th, 2009, 05:35 PM

Pool: Oh, wow, good to hear that it looks in reality than it is .. normally, it is the other way around!

All: Has anyone received a call for inspection of West but floor above 26th?

dirtyharry1

November 7th, 2009, 07:49 PM

Yightness, I am on floor 19, so yours should due in 1 week or so... now they are pushing... but they have to if they want to hand over as scheduled.

carbajal

November 8th, 2009, 06:33 AM

Hi,

I just finished my orientation. well a part from the several blue stickers that I put, we had the chance to visit the common areas. The gym has two wooden floors, the lower floor is where the trademills and the rest of the gym will be located, the problem there is a wall that blocks all possibilities to see the yatch club. from the second floor, destinated for aerobic and yoga lessons has wonderful views facing yatch club.

The pool looks quite long but with certain shortage of sunbed space around. Parkings have not been assigned yet. And they said the forniture in the lobby is still temporary and belongs to the contractor not to Emaar, which is planning to bring completely new forniture. By the way we have to push for the two white aluminium doors behing the reception desk in west, it looks awful compared with the rest.

see you

bertos

November 8th, 2009, 07:56 AM

carbajal,
which floor r you on, if you don't mind me asking.
I am on Second floor and STILL hasn't been called for my tour which is very strange. I've been calling Emaar everyday but they keep saying, your apartment is not yet certified.

November 8th, 2009, 09:56 AM

Guys photos taken yesterday
They were busy with land removal around East and North

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dirtyharry1

November 8th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Went to the tour with ossi, I must say, the whole development will turn out very well! lots of plants have arrived to be installed around the pool. New furniture has been installed in East lobby, looks 100times better than the preliminary one in West that will get the same good stuff very soon. Podium deck will be really good. Ossi's appartment was also not that bad, lots of scratches but much better than the appartments mentioned before, i.e. no broken tiles or so.

Mine is due now on Wednesday... by the way they have 6 guys doing 6 app. per day, so the tours should be completed within the next 10-12 days.

True Blue

November 8th, 2009, 12:13 PM

Guys, I'm still trying to work out why they need 10 large pumps and well points all around this area. This indicates a problem at this stage, any one know or can someone ask.

Possibly bad damage to the marina wall caused by DCE heavy machinery, now they may be lowering water level around the area to allow repairs to the wall.

http://i38.tinypic.com/t96whz.jpg

khl

November 8th, 2009, 02:30 PM

Tightness

November 8th, 2009, 02:36 PM

WOW! Thats scary news. Please let the community be updated guys!

Formosa Explorer

November 8th, 2009, 02:57 PM

KHL: Waooooo......... How come there are still some owners doing orientation today in that case. Is there any other owner having the same info from Emaar?

November 8th, 2009, 03:29 PM

hi,

A friend of mine has a flat in the 25th floor, and he received a phone call today (just 30 minutes ago) from Emaar, to inform him that the orientaion program has been stopped due to uncomplete building and they informed him that the handover will be delayed till the end of december or the end of january. An official letter from Emaar will be sent to the owners in this regards soon. Anyone else can confirm the information mentioned above?

I just talked to Emaar. They said that everything is going ahead as planned and the call center would be the first to know if that kind of decision has been made. I hope the guy knew what he was talking about

bertos

November 8th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Hi,
We also called Emaar and they said such info is not true as the hand over letter we all have been given cannot be changed. If there is going to be delay, it will be apartment individual depending on the amount of work that needs to be done to fix the blue tags in each flat.
so, i believe hand over still going on and nothing has been changed/delayed.

dirtyharry1

November 8th, 2009, 05:07 PM

True. The actual hand over date depends on the snagging list per appartment. All necessary common areas for West owners and residents (parking etc.) will be ready by the scheduled date. East and North will not be ready, but that will not affect West owners. Also the Emaar guy told us that today and I do not see any reason for any delay because of "uncompleted building". There were really hundreds of workers there today, fountain testing, tons of plants were delivered etc. By the way, even East lobby is more or less completed! So in my opinion they work at full speed and a lot has been acchieved the past months and weeks. Removal of land aroud the piers will take some time but that does not affect any handing over.

Once again, the development takes shape on a daily basis and once the snagging lists will be done we will have a unique development in a unique location! beach, marina mall, yacht club, everything can be reached within minutes by foot. And the views are really spectacular. So we should all look more relaxed into the future.

bertos

November 9th, 2009, 11:59 AM

Hi Guys,
I was passing by the building, and quickly jumped into the parking to talk to the project manager. He showed me around the common areas and I must say, it looks absolutely spectacular. Lobby is very nice, even the Marina Quay sign at the entrance is very nice, its unique, elegant and stylish :) . they will have a light installed above it and it will look very good.

btw, He told me that orientation is planned to start from floor 4th up to 30th first, and then back to 1,2,3... he didn't explain why, but said that is the plan.

I just cant wait to move in...:banana:

dirtyharry1

November 9th, 2009, 01:47 PM

Just received 2 phone calls from betterhomes and Hamptons... tenants seem to be waiting and I have been offered 155.000 AED in 4 cheques for my 2bed on 19th floor... not too bad in these times... unfortunately I will move in myself...:-)

Formosa Explorer

November 9th, 2009, 02:30 PM

Tightness

November 9th, 2009, 02:57 PM

Ok, can confirm myself everything goes well. Receive my appointment for this Sat noon for the home orientation. Anyone has his at Sat too and we do join efforts? Or anyone wants to come with me regardless? :)

DH: Man, your optimism is all over the place. Hope you didnt get pay for! ;)

Formosa Explorer

November 9th, 2009, 03:31 PM

I visited Marina Quays last night. Most of the fence in front of the project has been removed so that I accessed to the front area of the Quays North lobby. The view from the address hotel and Marina mall in the opposite was truly amazing, and I have to agree the design of this project is excellent. The work is progressing with full swing, and everything is improved on daily basis which I can feel the effort from the developer.
Also, I just talked to Emaar for the retification after my orientation, and Emaar staff promised me again the quality would be assured before handing over although no 2nd orientation is allowed.
Well......What I would say is Marina Quays will turn out to be one of the best projects in Dubai Marina for sure!!

khl

November 9th, 2009, 03:49 PM

dirtyharry1

November 9th, 2009, 04:08 PM

There are already adverts in freehold etc. for 1 bed at 95 to 105K, depends on the size and view.

Tightness, yes, I am optimistic now since you can see the progress every day. I am also sure that Emaar/DCE will carry out the snagging lists according to our satisfaction, even if they do it after handing over, but they will do it. In this regard I have never heard any bad stories from any other owners of Emaar properties. Yes, bathrooms and kitchen are not the best but if someone wants to change he is able to do it, however the location cannot be changed and MQ has for sure the best! No need to change that:-) Better than PI. And once all common areas are finished it will be definitely one of the best places in the Marina. Even the lobby will look very good with the new furniture, you will see soon.

Hope that my orientation tour on Wednesday will create a snagging list that is not too long:-)

Tightness

November 9th, 2009, 05:24 PM

please, could you tell me when you recieved your phone call from EMAAR for orientation?

Yes, I received it this morning at around 12pm noon time.

Tightness

November 9th, 2009, 05:42 PM

Tightness

November 9th, 2009, 06:26 PM

Hope that my orientation tour on Wednesday will create a snagging list that is not too long:-)

Please take picture guys! :)

khl

November 9th, 2009, 07:03 PM

Yes, I received it this morning at around 12pm noon time.

Thank you for this information, this confirms to me that the oreintation program is still running according to its time schedule and plan.

khl

November 9th, 2009, 07:24 PM

Guys, can you please show us your snagging list? I am not superfamiliar with snagging and need a good understanding where and what to look at ...

What are the common pitfalls?

We had one on the last page but the more we have with the typical issue a building might have, e.g. plumbing, wiring, etc., it might be valuable for us all.

The main issues to be checked are:
1. Wooden work and marble for any cracks and default.
2. Appartment area. It is mentioned in your contract with Emaar that the limited percentage of allowed change in the appartment area is 3%.

Ofcourse there are other issues like the alignement of wall tiles in the bathroom, cracks in the wall,... Don't waste your time on concentrating on the quality of the materials because it is clear that it is low quality and nothing can be done to change it.

You should take pictures of where ever you put your blue stickers and good luck in your orientation.