View Full Version : South Korea: 選t costs too much' to have a baby, more people are saying


Woor20
September 15th, 2004, 01:37 AM
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選t costs too much' to have a baby, more people are saying

With the lowest birth rate in history, young people in the country are saying it is "too expensive" to have a baby in the current economic slump.

Park Min-su, a 32-year-old corporate employee, has been married for three years. He does not have a child because he "cannot afford it." His family has been pressuring Mr. Park to have a baby, since he is the only son and the eldest grandson in his family and traditionally responsible for carrying on the family link by producing a child. However, Mr. Park and his wife are firmly saying "no" to having a baby.

"Let's say we had a baby. How are we going to raise him in this economy?" asked Mr. Park. "Saving for my retirement is the most urgent thing because I don't know how long I can keep my job," he added. "In order not to starve when I'm in my 80s, I have to save 400 million won ($349,000) to 500 million won in 15 years. It would be impossible if I have a child."

People who decided to have a baby seem to have the same concern about the financial consequences. "My wife gave birth to my little daughter 10 days ago. The hospital cost 800,000 won. The baby products cost 500,000 won. The recovery center for my wife cost 2 million won. Paying for my house and raising my daughter at the same time seems impossible," said a message written on a Web bulletin board. "Having a baby is not a joke."

Min Sang-gi, 36, who has a five-year-old boy, said that he gave up on having a second child. "Raising my boy costs about 1.6 million won a month. About 1 million is for preschool education," said Mr. Min.

In JoongAng Ilbo's survey of 679 men and women who are married, about 50 percent said that they are not having a baby for financial reasons. The cost of education and childrearing was too burdensome, said 70 percent of the participants.

In the 1960s, when people believed that babies would survive and grow without too much financial support, a fertile woman had about six children on average, according to the Korea Institute for Health and Social Affairs. An institute report says that households spent an average of 1.3 million won per child in the country in 2003.

The number of babies born in the country last year was 49,350 ― the fewest in history. The domestic birth rate has plunged to 1.19 per woman aged 15 to 49, among the lowest in the world. The birth rate started falling drastically in 1999, after the financial crisis in the country.
Studies say that the low birth rate is "a disaster for the country." Fewer babies mean fewer taxpayers, fewer people to defend the country, and fewer workers.

These problems will hurt the economy and welfare system. The country will have many elderly people who have no economic security, experts say.
If the birth rate stays the same, the country's population would start declining in 2017, according to statistics. In 100 years, the population would be one third of its current total of around 48 million, with half the people aged 65 or older, according to the institute's report.

Along with economic insecurity, there are a few more reasons for the low birth rate. The greater number of working women is another significant reason. According to a survey by Korean Womenlink, a civic group for woman's rights, two thirds of working women who are married said they cannot have a baby because of a busy work schedule.

Seo Hyun-ju, 34, a working mother of a one-year-old boy, said, "I'm spending most of my salary on paying my son's babysitter. But I don't want to mess up my career, worrying about whether my baby is fine or not at an unreliable day care center."

The increased number of single people is also keeping the birth rate low, experts say. Delayed marriage plans for economic reasons and people's changed views of marriage are affecting the rate.

Han Sang-ho, 29, a graduate student, said he did not feel confident about finding a job. "I used to have a girlfriend, but I had to break up with her because her family didn't think my future was bright," said Mr. Han.
According to statistics, the average age for Korean women to marry for the first time is 27.3 years old. The age for men is 30.1 years old. The age for both sexes is three years higher than it was in 1990.

"Even though there are several reasons why young people are not getting married, the main reason is financial insecurity," said Kim Du-seop, a professor at Hanyang University. "The best policy to increase the birth rate is to give them jobs and financial security."

by Kim Si-re, Choi Sun-young <sunyoung78@joongang.co.kr>

Ellatur
February 9th, 2005, 06:04 AM
if they want the country to grow, they better make babies

mookiecece
February 9th, 2005, 06:11 AM
I almost thought woor was unbanned for a sec.... 깜짝놀랐전아요~~!! ㅋㅋㅋ

Ellatur
February 9th, 2005, 06:15 AM
lol i got bored and went to the old threads

p.s. IMO i don't think it'd be a bad idea if we unban him IMO

SkylineTurbo
February 9th, 2005, 07:53 AM
^ :lol: Korea has a high divorce rate right? I heard about it on BBC.

cydevil
February 9th, 2005, 09:27 AM
The Korean feminists claim that unequal burden of military duty on Korean men is compensated by the burden of child birth on women. IMO, maybe Korea's Ministry of Gender Equality should take heed to this claim, and just as the government obligates men to serve their nation in arms, the MGE should obligate women to serve their nation with babies. Just a thougt.

kyenan
February 9th, 2005, 05:10 PM
It does not really cost too much to 'have' a baby, but to 'raise' a baby (or a child).

When I was young, I had to learn piano, taekwondo, baduk, swimming, speech, tennis, Danhak (yoga-like training), computer, singing, Chinese characters, calligraphy, and painting. These were all extra-school activities and none of them were paid by the government.

Also, I had to attend cram schools for Korean, English, math, social studies, and science or I got tutors for them. Again, the government was responsible for none of them.

Was I unique or special? No. I was average.

It is actually the parents themselves who make it 'cost too much' to raise their children. Either they are so ambitious and believe that their children can do everything, or they are too much inconfident in their children therefore believe that they have to do 'something' so that their children can grow 'normally'.

And they say it costs too much to raise children. Well, actually it costs a lot. They have to spend a lot of money on education, they so have to work so hard.

So the idea that 'those children' hold is that, unlike their parents who devoted themselves for others (children), they, the children, want to enjoy their own life rather than following their parents path.

And who are those children? They are us--the people of my generation. Those who are 20s and 30s now have been through the same situation that I have.

Some of them might have thought they wouldn't do to their children what their parent's did to them. But after they married, they are doing exactly the same things with the same idea (my child is a super man, etc...) to their children. And again, they say "it costs too much to raise a child in Korea".

Those who are not yet married hear and look at what others who are married doing, and think "Ooo....That's scary. I am not going to have a baby." They avoid marriage or having a baby.



P.S. BTW, although I learned so many things, I am good at none of them. haha!! Most of Koreans here might have been in the same situation. kkk

cydevil
February 9th, 2005, 05:32 PM
It does not really cost too much to 'have' a baby, but to 'raise' a baby (or a child).

When I was young, I had to learn piano, taekwondo, baduk, swimming, speech, tennis, Danhak (yoga-like training), computer, singing, Chinese characters, calligraphy, and painting. These were all extra-school activities and none of them were paid by the government.

Also, I had to attend cram schools for Korean, English, math, social studies, and science or I got tutors for them. Again, the government was responsible for none of them.

Was I unique or special? No. I was average.

It is actually the parents themselves who make it 'cost too much' to raise their children. Either they are so ambitious and believe that their children can do everything, or they are too much inconfident in their children therefore believe that they have to do 'something' so that their children can grow 'normally'.

And they say it costs too much to raise children. Well, actually it costs a lot. They have to spend a lot of money on education, they so have to work so hard.

So the idea that 'those children' hold is that, unlike their parents who devoted themselves for others (children), they, the children, want to enjoy their own life rather than following their parents path.

And who are those children? They are us--the people of my generation. Those who are 20s and 30s now have been through the same situation that I have.

Some of them might have thought they wouldn't do to their children what their parent's did to them. But after they married, they are doing exactly the same things with the same idea (my child is a super man, etc...) to their children. And again, they say "it costs too much to raise a child in Korea".

Those who are not yet married hear and look at what others who are married doing, and think "Ooo....That's scary. I am not going to have a baby." They avoid marriage or having a baby.



P.S. BTW, although I learned so many things, I am good at none of them. haha!! Most of Koreans here might have been in the same situation. kkk

In my case, it was piano, baduk, violin, painting, speech, taekwondo, kumdo, computer, tennis.. well that's all I can think of for now. Not good at any of them except computers. Anyone interested in buying my violin?

waterloo
February 9th, 2005, 07:49 PM
huh? why is woor20 banned at the first place?? I didnt even know.. :sleepy:

Ellatur
February 9th, 2005, 10:46 PM
he had some rough times with some of the moderators
anyways... there are baduk hakwons? whoa....
to be honest, i think its unnecessary to send to like 92837523523 hakwons. but unfortunately, nowadays so many people are doing it and it is almost impossible to keep up with the peers if you don't go to 329873528937598237923 hakwons

kyenan
February 10th, 2005, 12:11 AM
he had some rough times with some of the moderators
anyways... there are baduk hakwons? whoa....
to be honest, i think its unnecessary to send to like 92837523523 hakwons. but unfortunately, nowadays so many people are doing it and it is almost impossible to keep up with the peers if you don't go to 329873528937598237923 hakwons

Exactly. And some of them say I can't stay here in this country, let's move to somewhere else. And after they move, they again seek for better insititutions for education. What is so much different?

Ellatur
February 10th, 2005, 01:02 AM
true... so true... here in NJ, there are so many hakwons..

Vapour
February 11th, 2005, 11:03 PM
More and more countries are facing the same problem. The easiest solution seems to be immigration, 'cause I don't see Italian, Korean or Japanese couples changing their minds about the topic overnight.