View Full Version : IT Corridor | Technopark Phase III -IT SEZ | 4 Mn Sq.ft. total development | U/C
sudheeshnairs March 24th, 2011, 08:19 PM Courtesy: Sidewinder
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sudheeshnairs March 24th, 2011, 08:21 PM All the three phases together
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sudheeshnairs March 24th, 2011, 08:23 PM Technopark Phase-3 expansion to get under way
Sanjeev Ramachandran / Chennai/ Thiruvananthapuram September 03, 2008, 2:49 IST
Technopark’s strides towards becoming Asia’s biggest information technology park will take yet another step forward this week with work set to begin on the Phase-3 expansion.
Talking to Business Standard, N Radhakrishnan Nair, CEO, Technopark, said “the Phase -3 expansion would be undertaken on 92 acres and implemented as an IT/ITeS Special Economic Zone (SEZ).”
Towards this, the foundation for a 110-kv power substation would be laid on September 4 by chief minister VS Achuthanandan at the proposed site at Kulathoor close to the main campus.
Adding that most of the land registration process was over, Nair said PwC and Mahindra Consulting had been roped in as master planners.
The SEZ, to be developed in private participation, would be undertaken under the aegis of Kerala State IT Infrastructure Ltd and involve an investment of above Rs 3,500 crore.
The expansion work is expected to be completed in 2012. It would create 4 million sft space and around 40,000 jobs. On completion of the third phase, the Thiruvananthapuram Technopark will be among the leading technology hubs in the world with a built-up space of 10 million sft and a 100,000 workforce, Nair said.
Meanwhile, the Phase -2 expansion will see campuses of tech majors Infosys Technologies and UST Global occupy the total 86 acres of land earmarked as the SEZ, Nair said.
http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=333261
sudheeshnairs March 24th, 2011, 08:25 PM Courtesy: Ajaypp
Work on Technopark Phase III, spread over 92 acres and expected to create over 4 million sq.ft of space and 40,000 jobs is being inaugurated on Sept 4, 2008.
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Minister M. Vijayakumar gets up to deliver the Presidential Address at the inauguration of development of Technopark Phase III
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sudheeshnairs March 24th, 2011, 08:28 PM Technopark Phase III-A walkthrough
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sudheeshnairs March 24th, 2011, 08:37 PM Construction status on 21st March 2011.
You can see the Phase I (TCS Peepul Park) touching the Phase III.
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Ajaypp March 25th, 2011, 12:49 AM This thread was long overdue! :) Awesome aerial updates, Sudheesh! Looks like the civil structural work will be done in another 2 months or so, L&T typically does one slab every 10-14 days, especially in a highly mechanized job like this one.
The October target for handing the building over for fit-outs looks pretty achievable. With the kind of pent-up demand that there is in Technopark right now, that won't too soon.
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robin_a_p October 12th, 2011, 08:56 AM Updates from Projects thread
TP Phase 3 latest Pictures
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psanthosh October 12th, 2011, 01:41 PM Can you please link this physical structure to that of the logical site layout? Layout has 8 somewhat U shaped buildings. So how many builds constructing now?
Rajesh SM October 12th, 2011, 01:54 PM Can you please link this physical structure to that of the logical site layout? Layout has 8 somewhat U shaped buildings. So how many builds constructing now?
There is six buildings(3M sqft) in original plan. Currently two buildings are being constructed. Two buildings combined have a builtup area of about 1M sqft. Buoyed by response now it is heard that TP is initiating the procedures for the construction of remaining four buildings(2M sft).
Viveks October 12th, 2011, 02:00 PM There is six buildings(3M sqft) in original plan. Currently two buildings are being constructed. Two buildings combined have a builtup area of about 1M sqft. Buoyed by response now it is heard that TP is initiating the procedures for the construction of remaining four buildings(2M sft).
Rajesh, Are you sure that the project has six buildings only? AFAIK the project consists of 8 buildings each has a size of 5 Lakh sq ft togethering a whopping 4 Million Sq Ft. Please can you confirm the same?
Rajesh SM October 12th, 2011, 02:17 PM Rajesh, Are you sure that the project has six buildings only? AFAIK the project consists of 8 buildings each has a size of 5 Lakh sq ft togethering a whopping 4 Million Sq Ft. Please can you confirm the same?
Yes Vivek, there is only six buildings in plan. TP phase III video also shows only six buildings.
vinod/kakka October 12th, 2011, 03:36 PM ^^ Also, this is only one part of TP-Phase III on 36 acres which will be constructed by Technopark. ~50 acres is set aside for PPP and private projects.
psanthosh October 12th, 2011, 04:38 PM then what about the other 4 buildings? Will it be that 36 acres?
^^ Also, this is only one part of TP-Phase III on 36 acres which will be constructed by Technopark. ~50 acres is set aside for PPP and private projects.
Ajaypp October 12th, 2011, 05:28 PM then what about the other 4 buildings? Will it be that 36 acres?
Do you never scroll back? The answer is YES!
ajithv October 12th, 2011, 05:52 PM ^^ Ajay,they never do that..They are interested in TROLL :)
abhilashtvpm November 27th, 2011, 08:36 AM Technopark Phase III nearing completion :cheers:
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: ‘Anamudi’ and ‘Ponmudi’ is getting ready to house thousands of techies.These twin buildings coming up in Technopark Phase III, carrying the names of popular majestic peaks of Kerala, are nearing completion and will be up and running in another two months.
The phase III expansion with an investment of Rs 292 crore will create 10,000 direct job opportunities. Already, more than six companies, including IT majors HCL, Oracle and Capgemeni, have expressed their interest for starting their operations.Of these, HCL has been allotted land for developing their facility and work is progressing on a fast pace. The 10 lakh-sq ft facility had a futuristic design, incorporating the latest trends, including ‘green building’ concepts.
Mervin Alexander, CEO, Technopark, told ‘Express’ that one floor out of the two towers spread over a 92 acre plot is being developed as smart business centre, with a cost of Rs 2.5 crore, which would have ready to use office facility.“The work undertaken by L&T will be completed by early January and it will provide job opportunity to 10,000 people.
A 110/11 kv substation has already been commissioned on the campus. The work of sewage treatment plant has finished and works of internal roads, water distribution systems and other amenities are progressing on a fast pace,” he said.
Technopark Phase III located adjacent to the Technopark Phase-I campus has got Special Economic Status for 27.5 acres of land. The buildings have a built-up area of 10 lakh sq.ft.
The Technopark Phase III houses green buildings which use less water, optimise energy and generate less waste. The Technopark Phase I and Phase II houses 30,000-odd employees with many major IT/ITES companies having their presence.Water-cooled centrifugal chillers with high performance is being installed.
IBN (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/technopark-phase-iii-nearing-completion/205715-60-116.html)
sre November 27th, 2011, 10:01 AM Technopark Phase III nearing completion :cheers:
IBN (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/technopark-phase-iii-nearing-completion/205715-60-116.html)
Ready in two months? Impressive.. Is the glass cladding of the building done already? Any latest pics?
Do we have the renderings of the HCL campus? I dont remember seeing it in the forum neither was I successful with my search for images..
vinod/kakka November 27th, 2011, 02:17 PM Anamudi and Ponmudi will have capacity for ~10K employees. Not TP-III.
ajithv January 29th, 2012, 07:09 AM TP phase III... Current status
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Kannan46 January 29th, 2012, 07:18 AM Nice photos, Thanks Sanba for the updates and Ajith for posting it in its home thread.
BTW, the original plan contains 8 buildings. I understand that 4 are complete (from Ajay) with a total area of 2 million sqft
Are the remaining 4 under construction?
Which are the companies at present planning to take space in the completed buildings?
Please enlighten if any one has information. Thnnks
Cheers!!!
kirantvm January 29th, 2012, 07:25 AM Nice photos, Thanks Sanba for the updates and Ajith for posting it in its home thread.
BTW, the original plan contains 8 buildings. I understand that 4 are complete (from Ajay) with a total area of 2 million sqft
Are the remaining 4 under construction?
Which are the companies at present planning to take space in the completed buildings?
Please enlighten if any one has information. Thnnks
Cheers!!!
I think now only two buildings..infact each building having 2 blocks and single building itself a massive structure. You can see left side bldg having two blocks. Total might be having 8 buildings in which two is almost completed now..and it just utilized 15-20 acres of the total 90-100 acre i think. so we can expect a lot of development oppurtunity this area but only problem is govt is silent on next bldg development...(didant heard anything till now..reasons are clear)
Viveks January 29th, 2012, 07:25 AM Nice photos, Thanks Sanba for the updates and Ajith for posting it in its home thread.
BTW, the original plan contains 8 buildings. I understand that 4 are complete (from Ajay) with a total area of 2 million sqft
Are the remaining 4 under construction?
Which are the companies at present planning to take space in the completed buildings?
Please enlighten if any one has information. Thnnks
Cheers!!!
@Kannan, Currently only two buildings are under construction. AFAIK, they reduced 2 buildings from the original design and now came to a total of 6 buildings from 8. Dont know the construction date of the other 4. Any one have any idea???
Kannan46 January 29th, 2012, 07:31 AM Thanks Vivek for the clarification
Cheers!!!
vinod/kakka January 29th, 2012, 02:23 PM @Kannan, Currently only two buildings are under construction. AFAIK, they reduced 2 buildings from the original design and now came to a total of 6 buildings from 8. Dont know the construction date of the other 4. Any one have any idea???
The latest land sketches at techopark.org seem to suggest that only these 2 will be constructed by TP, and the other plots will be done in a PPP fashion.
Ajaypp January 29th, 2012, 04:27 PM To make things clear:
A) There were six buildings planned originally, each with 2 blocks each and 1 Million SF of leasable space each, making a total of 3 Million SF of SEZ space.
B) Phase I that is currently nearing completion, consists of 2 buildings or 4 blocks, with a total of 1 Million SF of SEZ space.
C) TP has planned for future space to be developed by private developers as well as by itself in its 50 acre parcel in Technocity.
With the overwhelming demand for IT space in Trivandrum, the Government may decide to build further buildings in Phase III. After all, all the companies want to be in Trivandrum as has been demonstrated by Oracle, Cap Gemini, ITC, HCL and Aegis, among others in the recent months. I am pretty sure at least 2 more buildings will be put up as we wait for the private real estate sector to recover from the recession. Let's wait and see, stay tuned for more in the next few weeks!
Ziyan January 31st, 2012, 12:22 PM These are two snapshots from the trailer of the movie, ee adutha kalathu...
As u can see, the Phase III iconic structure has already started attracting movie makers!!
(that too even before completion) cheers! :banana2::banana2::banana2:
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abhilashtvpm January 31st, 2012, 01:56 PM These are two snapshots from the trailer of the movie, ee adutha kalathu...
As u can see, the Phase III iconic structure has already started attracting movie makers!!
(that too even before completion) cheers! :banana2::banana2::banana2:
Great find Ziyan....Awesome :cheers:
Viveks January 31st, 2012, 02:42 PM Awesome find Ziyan... Just imagine how the buildings looks once all the phases completed. :nuts:
BTW, another shot from the movie trailer 'Ee adutha kaalathu'. Can you guess the place? ;)
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Vivektvm January 31st, 2012, 03:01 PM Awesome find Ziyan... Just imagine how the buildings looks once all the phases completed. :nuts:
BTW, another shot from the movie trailer 'Ee adutha kaalathu'. Can you guess the place? ;)
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Near South Park Hotel,I presume.Opposite University Stadium.
abhilashtvpm January 31st, 2012, 03:03 PM Vivek....Shot from The South Park...right ????
Viveks January 31st, 2012, 03:09 PM Vivek....Shot from The South Park...right ????
Perfect... Its from the top floor of South Park... The round about is in front of the VJT Hall... :)
ajithv February 2nd, 2012, 04:44 PM This much only I could manage from my mobile :(
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Viveks February 18th, 2012, 12:33 PM I was planning you guys to have a visit the latest status of the Stunning Technopark Phase III, Trivandrum... Today the mission got accomplished.
And its sheer size and design tempts me to think that we are proceeding pretty well with the likes of India's IT hub Bangalore. I got stunned while seeing the size of these two buildings; cant imagine how it looks like once all the massive 6 buildings completed... :nuts::nuts:
Here we goooo... Enjoy... :cheers: :cheers:
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Rajesh SM February 18th, 2012, 12:36 PM ^^Good snaps Vivek :applause:
Viveks February 18th, 2012, 12:39 PM ^^Good snaps Vivek :applause:
Not yet completed... ;)
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abhilashtvpm February 18th, 2012, 01:00 PM Awesome photos Vivek... Technopark Phase III is stunning
Another landmark in Thiruvananthapuram ...WoW!!!
:banana::banana::banana::banana:
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Keralean February 18th, 2012, 01:14 PM wow..i am loving it..<(")
abhilashtvpm February 18th, 2012, 01:57 PM wow..i am loving it..<(")
Its really massive. As Vivek said how would it be if all blocks are completed. simply amazing.:cheers:
pradeeptnair1 February 18th, 2012, 02:30 PM Amazing shots pal..am awestruck...Just wish Maani Sar allocates sufficient funds to go for at least next two blocks as well..
[QUOTE=Viveks;88663219]I was planning you guys to have a visit the latest status of the Stunning Technopark Phase III, Trivandrum... Today the mission got accomplished.
And its sheer size and design tempts me to think that we are proceeding pretty well with the likes of India's IT hub Bangalore. I got stunned while seeing the size of these two buildings; cant imagine how it looks like once all the massive 6 buildings completed... :nuts::nuts:
Here we goooo... Enjoy... :cheers: :cheers:
Viveks February 18th, 2012, 04:00 PM Thanks Rajesh SM, Abhilash, keralean and pradeep for all your supports and appreciations... :)
25Dude25 February 18th, 2012, 05:05 PM Awesome pictures Vivek.....
Keep them coming... :)
Xeno Axe February 18th, 2012, 05:07 PM Awesome photos Vivek... Technopark Phase III is stunning
Another landmark in Thiruvananthapuram ...WoW!!!
:banana::banana::banana::banana:
:cheers:
Absolutely right.... Thanks Vivek. :carrot:
RajeshNair February 18th, 2012, 05:25 PM Awesome picstures Vivek.
Soon you will graduate into a NatGeo class photographer. :)
TP3 reminds me of the Cisco HQ in san jose, CA. TP3 looks much better though. The buildings once complete with the cladding will look amazing. We all really appreciate the effort you and all the other resident shutter bugs take on a daily basis to bring these stunning pictures of our city to us. Like the saying goes pictures are worth a thousand words.
DevKerala February 18th, 2012, 06:29 PM Wow !. Amazing Pictures.
With the Infy Expansion, US Technology Campus , TCS Dev & Training center combined with TP Phase III. TVM is quietly becoming the Best Tier 2 IT City of India.
nanobioguy February 18th, 2012, 06:29 PM Thanks Vivek....... cool shots of upcoming uber cool TP 3 buildings.:):):)
Ajaypp February 18th, 2012, 06:32 PM Wow !. Amazing Pictures.
With the Infy Expansion, US Technology Campus , TCS Dev & Training center combined with TP Phase III. TVM is quietly becoming the Best Tier 2 IT City of India.
^^ - Lol, I think that happened a long time back, now it's on to the big league, especially considering that we have more Global Top 10 MNCs than any other Tier 2 cities (I dunno if any other Tier 2 city has bagged even one global giant yet!) :)
Viveks February 18th, 2012, 06:42 PM ^^ - Lol, I think that happened a long time back, now it's on to the big league, especially considering that we have more Global Top 10 MNCs than any other Tier 2 cities (I dunno if any other Tier 2 city has bagged even one global giant yet!) :)
I think Coimbatore have one. But still its way too behind... :)
scorpiogenius February 18th, 2012, 11:54 PM I'm just awestruck by the images posted above! Still months to go before full completion, the structure is already iconic. Guess with the realization of the remaining 4 buildings this one gonna surpass the legend TP-Phase I has created.
Thanks Vivek. You must be given the status of Official SSC-Trivandrum photographer. :)
ajithv February 19th, 2012, 01:23 AM You must be given the status of Official SSC-Trivandrum photographer
What about vjfile? :nuts:
vjfile February 19th, 2012, 07:10 AM What about vjfile? :nuts:
Athrakku veno? :P hehe.. anyway, Superb snaps Vivek.. Absolutely remarkable effort and dedication from your part, as always :applause:
Viveks February 19th, 2012, 07:44 AM Thanks all for your support, folks... The credit goes not only to me but also the fellow forumers who tried their best efforts too to make our threads alive as always. And it is not a wonder still our Trivandrum leads in Indian SSC threads as we have enough active forumers, in every sector, here. :cheers::cheers:
Viveks February 19th, 2012, 07:45 AM Athrakku veno? :P hehe.. anyway, Superb snaps Vivek.. Absolutely remarkable effort and dedication from your part, as always :applause:
Sir-um mosamallallo??? :P Pinne nammude Xeno, pramod, ajithv thudangiya aalkaarude contributions angane marakkaan pattumooo???:nuts:
DevKerala February 19th, 2012, 09:07 AM ^^ - Lol, I think that happened a long time back, now it's on to the big league, especially considering that we have more Global Top 10 MNCs than any other Tier 2 cities (I dunno if any other Tier 2 city has bagged even one global giant yet!) :)
That would totally depend on what we consider as Tier 2 Cities. Pune has IBM, Accenture Cap Gemini & many more. Cap Gemini Has presence in Kolkata. Gurgaon has Accenture. I am sure I can add many more to the list. These are all operational offices, not the ones planned or under construction like in TVM. Hence my assertion that once the current projects are operational we will be on top of the Tier 2 Cities.
I consider Bangalore, Hyderabad & Chennai as the Tier 1 IT Cities of India.
Ajaypp February 19th, 2012, 05:49 PM I consider Bangalore, Hyderabad & Chennai as the Tier 1 IT Cities of India.
If you consider Pune, Gurgaon/NCR and Kolkata as Tier 2, then I'd be happy to agree that Trivandrum is one of them. :)
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Viveks March 15th, 2012, 09:32 PM Great shots Kiran.. Technopark Phase III sprucing up rapidly....:cheers::cheers:
rajkrish March 16th, 2012, 07:37 AM Great pics Kiran. What a bunch of iconic structures :bow:
Xeno Axe March 16th, 2012, 03:08 PM Nice pics Kiran..
Ziyan March 16th, 2012, 03:11 PM Indeed a visual treat...
Awesome snaps!
ajithv March 16th, 2012, 06:45 PM TP3 gonna rock !!!
Good updates kirantvm
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kirantvm March 16th, 2012, 06:50 PM Indeed a visual treat...
Awesome snaps!
thanks all...
believe me its really a fabulous look in naked eyes thn in photos, and once all the blocks are in place i cant even imagine abt the benefits..
but need to see how its going to connected to highway..current road side of toyota showroom need to be upgraded to four lane.
_GrapeWine_ March 16th, 2012, 10:43 PM ^^ - Lol, I think that happened a long time back, now it's on to the big league, especially considering that we have more Global Top 10 MNCs than any other Tier 2 cities (I dunno if any other Tier 2 city has bagged even one global giant yet!) :)
If you consider Pune, Gurgaon/NCR and Kolkata as Tier 2, then I'd be happy to agree that Trivandrum is one of them. :)
oh is it?? :O what's the population of Trivandrum compared to these other "Tier 2" (:nuts:) towns?
Ajit Devan March 17th, 2012, 12:14 AM oh is it?? :O what's the population of Trivandrum compared to these other "Tier 2" (:nuts:) towns?
:lol::lol::lol:First of all population is not the only factor for city to belong to different Tiers. Its area, its infrastructure, its educated crowd matters. City (Thiruvananthapuram) has a metropolitan population of more than 2.5 million - the district is the densest district in Kerala and has a population of close to 3.5 million. Further the population of the combined urban region of with its neighbour Kollam is more than 5 million.
Abhijithh92 March 17th, 2012, 08:29 AM oh is it?? :O what's the population of Trivandrum compared to these other "Tier 2" (:nuts:) towns?
ahem. ... None of the companies will look whats the population of the city as a whole for setting up their branch. It depends on the extend of talent available, the service offered, connectivity, and well ofcourse market potential.
And if you want population then a 1.1million city dwellers 2.5 million in metropolitan region and 3.5 plus in district isn't bad at all. By far thats the highest figures in kerala.
bijuarr March 17th, 2012, 08:44 AM ^^
Population only 9.5 lakhs (First in the state) in city area by expanding the corporation area in 2010. Metro population only 16.8 lakhs as per census 2011 (Fifth in the state)
RajeshVR March 17th, 2012, 09:45 AM ^^
Population only 9.5 lakhs (First in the state) in city area by expanding the corporation area in 2010.
^^
True,Trivandrumis the largest city in kerala :banana:
SajithVijayan March 17th, 2012, 09:50 AM ^^
Population only 9.5 lakhs (First in the state) in city area by expanding the corporation area in 2010. Metro population only 16.8 lakhs as per census 2011 (Fifth in the state)
I appreciate your enthusiasm to provide the data. Anyway irrespective of the population many MNCs including Oracle, Accenture, Capgemini etc are setting ups their SDCs in Trivandrum. Moreover Infosys looking for their 2nd campus in Trivandrum without considering any other place in Kerala :cheers:
Tri Man March 17th, 2012, 10:17 AM ^^
Requesting All to continue out of topic discussions in General Discussion thread.
Abhijithh92 March 17th, 2012, 10:34 AM I appreciate your enthusiasm to provide the data. Anyway irrespective of the population many MNCs including Oracle, Accenture, Capgemini etc are setting ups their SDCs in Trivandrum. Moreover Infosys looking for their 2nd campus in Trivandrum without considering any other place in Kerala :cheers:
:) lol. That was one heck of an answer to him. Think he got what he wanted. :D
Travancore March 17th, 2012, 03:06 PM oh is it?? :O what's the population of Trivandrum compared to these other "Tier 2" (:nuts:) towns?
The very fact that a city with <1 million population has attracted investments from real biggies in IT space warrants due credit. And these r long term investment decisions which are taken with due consideration weighting n number of factors benchmarked across alternate destinations within India n perhaps abroad as well...So it really is a significant achievement to the city.
abhilashtvpm March 17th, 2012, 04:44 PM I appreciate your enthusiasm to provide the data. Anyway irrespective of the population many MNCs including Oracle, Accenture, Capgemini etc are setting ups their SDCs in Trivandrum. Moreover Infosys looking for their 2nd campus in Trivandrum without considering any other place in Kerala :cheers:
lavanee mathiyayi :lol:
abhilashtvpm March 17th, 2012, 04:52 PM http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac273/kirantvm_infy/Image620.jpg
Technopark phase 3 Adipoli :cheers:
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Courtesy: Keralakaumudi
sudheeshnairs March 31st, 2012, 02:46 PM I appreciate your enthusiasm to provide the data. Anyway irrespective of the population many MNCs including Oracle, Accenture, Capgemini etc are setting ups their SDCs in Trivandrum. Moreover Infosys looking for their 2nd campus in Trivandrum without considering any other place in Kerala :cheers:
To hell with population..Indian cities are shit holes because of this burgeoning population numbers. There should be an optimum population, thats all. And development, progress, life standards are not determined by population, esp when it is on Indian standards with low income levels.
Best example of a nice modern city I recently visited was Frankfurt with about only six lakhs population in the corporation area.
We have a pop density of about 5000 per sqkm which is comparable to most of the developed city standards, where as most other Indian cities have numbers of ,20000& 30000 and above.
atuljg March 31st, 2012, 03:10 PM To hell with population..Indian cities are shit holes because of this burgeoning population numbers. There should be an optimum population, thats all. And development, progress, life standards are not determined by population, esp when it is on Indian standards with low income levels.
Best example of a nice modern city I recently visited was Frankfurt with about only six lakhs population in the corporation area.
We have a pop density of about 5000 per sqkm which is comparable to most of the developed city standards, where as most other Indian cities have numbers of ,20000& 30000 and above.
Very true. Population determines nothing about how good a city is truly like. If the population's increasing, the infrastructure has to keep up. Or else, it's gonna hurt badly.
_GrapeWine_ April 2nd, 2012, 06:05 PM I appreciate your enthusiasm to provide the data. Anyway irrespective of the population many MNCs including Oracle, Accenture, Capgemini etc are setting ups their SDCs in Trivandrum. Moreover Infosys looking for their 2nd campus in Trivandrum without considering any other place in Kerala :cheers:
That is a great achievement! :cheers: but I honestly think the decision of MNCs setting up bases in Trivandrum is not "solely" based on potential of the place. Can't it be that the state govt offered cheaper land and more tax benefits to companies to come and invest in Trivandrum than any other place in state? are you ruling out this possibility completely? Afterall, Trivandrum is state capital and in long run, it is going to get more pampered than any other place in the state.
Infosys's decision to expand in Trivandrum and not at any other place might also have same reason behind it. You can't rule out this aspect blatantly.
To hell with population..Indian cities are shit holes because of this burgeoning population numbers. There should be an optimum population, thats all. And development, progress, life standards are not determined by population, esp when it is on Indian standards with low income levels.
+1. Population should be optimum with respect to infrastructure, both social and physical.
But here you say "to hell with population" and on the previous page people are going banana on knowing the fact that Tvm is most populous city in state :D double standards?
as per convenience, same fact used to justify different things in contradicting way.. :nuts:
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To all,
As per facts,
City -- Population -- IT exports
Pune -- 5 million+ -- 28K crore+ in 2010 (source (http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-it-exports-to-cross-rs-30000-crore-mark_1503381))
Gurgaon/NCR -- 20 million+ -- 18k crore in 2008 (source (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/gurgaon-it-exports-touch-rs-18-k-cr/339508/))
Kolkata -- 15 million+ -- 5.5k crore in 2010 (source (http://business-standard.com/india/news/kolkata-it-growth-in-positive-trajectory/403948/))
Trivandrum -- 0.95 million -- ~2k crore in 2011
In India and anywhere else in the world, potential of any place is directly proportional to population (with varying constant of proportionality of course). "You provide proportional infrastructure at any two places, the place with more working population will prosper more (assuming the intellect at both the places is almost same)" - simple logic. Get my point? my previous response was in this regard.
I have nothing against Trivandrum guys! It is a great city with good development potential! just that you don't keep a feet on ground and start boasting.. :ohno: plz don't underestimate other places or overestimate Trivandrum, that's all.
sudheeshnairs April 2nd, 2012, 08:16 PM That is a great achievement! :cheers: but I honestly think the decision of MNCs setting up bases in Trivandrum is not "solely" based on potential of the place. Can't it be that the state govt offered cheaper land and more tax benefits to companies to come and invest in Trivandrum than any other place in state? are you ruling out this possibility completely? .
In Kerala land is not cheaper compared with other tier II cities of India. The sops and benefits offered by GoK is available or perhaps more in any other aspiring IT city.
You got it wrong when you compared with other places within the state. Infact GoK is doing the reverse, and Kerala would be unique by the way the state is promoting IT parks in major cities and tier II cities of the state in a hub and spoke model.
Afterall, Trivandrum is state capital and in long run, it is going to get more pampered than any other place in the state.
Infosys's decision to expand in Trivandrum and not at any other place might also have same reason behind it. You can't rule out this aspect blatantly..
You may not be aware that Kerala is unique, totally different from other states in India, in most aspects. Capital has its own advantages, but in the case of Kerala there is no pampering of the Capital, otherwise the projects/development are equally distributed across the state. There have been many instances where the Capital has been sidelined also.
I began my career with KINFRA (INFOPARK was under KINFRA, under the name KITEL, before it was rechristened as INFOPARK) and later Technopark. Wipro was requested to move to Infopark by the Govt citing the reason as Infosys had already started at Technopark.
When UDF ministry took charge in 2002, I myself had seen a letter written by the IT/Industry Minister to KINFRA that more focus would be given to the Parks at Kakkanad (Infopark)and the proposed HI Tech PARK at Kalamassery. I was a party to the meetings wherein L&T (they were the contractors of 'Bhavani' building at Technopark then) was persuaded with go ahead with parks in Kakkanad/Kalamassery. I still remember a presentation session before L&T at Trivandrum; they had thought that the project is planned in TVM and at the end when they asked can we go and see the site now, those who were presenting had to show a blank face saying that the site is 200+ kms away!!!
The result is the L&T parks you see in Infopark. Anyway even with all those push and efforts way back from 2002, Technopark was able to bag/retain biggies on its own.
Technopark was being branded Technopark Kerala, (It used to appear like that in all the marketing collaterals) while Infopark was Infopark Kochi from day first. Only a few years back, the title Technopark Trivandrum was adopted. This is also a pointer to the fact that the Govt was not giving any special focus on Trivandrum, but perhaps doing the reverse.
+1. Population should be optimum with respect to infrastructure, both social and physical.
But here you say "to hell with population" and on the previous page people are going banana on knowing the fact that Tvm is most populous city in state :D double standards?
as per convenience, same fact used to justify different things in contradicting way.. :nuts:..
You didn't get my point. I was comparing with the population of other so called 'big cities of India' which are big only in Population. And it was you who started with Population when Ajay said a fact that TVM is ahead of most other Tier II cities.
Yes, Trivandrum and for that matter all of Kerala cities have only OPTIMUM population. The population is evenly spread across the whole state. Thats why we have PQLI standards comparable to the developed world.
The living standards of general public of most modern cities of India are way below Trivandrum or other Kerala cities. I live in Bangalore and can vouch for that based on parameters like percapita availability of good roads, streets, water, power, sanitation etc. I came to know about compromises only after shifting to Bangalore, whether it is the parking space for my car at my office, or the availability of water, or the frequent power cuts etc etc. Here we create islands of prosperity or gated communities, so that we will run generators to meet our power needs, buy water in tankers to use at home/office, tend to cope with the reality that you will require 1 hour to travel 10 Kms or appoint drivers etc etc.
In India and anywhere else in the world, potential of any place is directly proportional to population (with varying constant of proportionality of course). "You provide proportional infrastructure at any two places, the place with more working population will prosper more (assuming the intellect at both the places is almost same)" - simple logic. Get my point? my previous response was in this regard..
I was mentioning this only. The intellect or the standard of the people are not the same!! In most cities, people below BPL are huge, and Kerala is one place where there is more of equable Human Development.
Ajaypp April 2nd, 2012, 08:29 PM That is a great achievement! :cheers: but I honestly think the decision of MNCs setting up bases in Trivandrum is not "solely" based on potential of the place. Can't it be that the state govt offered cheaper land and more tax benefits to companies to come and invest in Trivandrum than any other place in state? are you ruling out this possibility completely?
Yes, we are, but based on firm facts. As Sudheesh mentioned above, Kerala has an IT Policy, where the incentives are uniform, at best, if not skewed against Trivandrum. Like Sudheesh, I have extensive direct experience dealing with the Government, especially in the matter of IT SEZs. Other than "persuading" companies to invest outside of Trivandrum, successive (UDF) Governments have done precious little to promote the State Capital.
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As per facts,
City -- Population -- IT exports
Pune -- 5 million+ -- 28K crore+ in 2010 (source (http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-it-exports-to-cross-rs-30000-crore-mark_1503381))
Gurgaon/NCR -- 20 million+ -- 18k crore in 2008 (source (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/gurgaon-it-exports-touch-rs-18-k-cr/339508/))
Kolkata -- 15 million+ -- 5.5k crore in 2010 (source (http://business-standard.com/india/news/kolkata-it-growth-in-positive-trajectory/403948/))
Trivandrum -- 0.95 million -- ~2k crore in 2011
In India and anywhere else in the world, potential of any place is directly proportional to population (with varying constant of proportionality of course).
Your argument falls flat on its face immediately, else Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata should rank well above Bangalore and Hyderabad in terms of their IT industry potential or Trivandrum would not be leagues ahead of more populous cities such as Ahmedabad, Lucknow, Coimbatore or Vizag. Similarly, a city of 100,000 folks called Cambridge beats the pants off metropolises such as Chicago, LA, Houston, DFW, DC and even NYC in terms of innovation and the concentration of the tech/biotech industries.
In reality, businesses like tech firms are most interested in what can be called the knowledge ecosystem, which consists of elements like high quality human resources, R&D institutions, institutions of higher education and the accumulated intellectual capital in an area as well as the quality of life it supports. This is why leading firms such as Oracle, Cap Gemini, Accenture and so on picked Trivandrum and why giants like Infosys and TCS keep coming back for more.
I hope we are clear?
asterix1 April 2nd, 2012, 09:23 PM In reality, businesses like tech firms are most interested in what can be called the knowledge ecosystem, which consists of elements like high quality human resources, R&D institutions, institutions of higher education and the accumulated intellectual capital in an area as well as the quality of life it supports. This is why leading firms such as Oracle, Cap Gemini, Accenture and so on picked Trivandrum and why giants like Infosys and TCS keep coming back for more.
I hope we are clear?
I'm glad Kerala is moving up the IT ladder.High time.Also have to point that saturation in bangalore, and the political situation in hyderabad have made companies scout for other locations to expand their businesses.Land is also offered dirt cheap in Kerala, i know of an IT firm in Kochi that setup a big campus, they called it an ultra low cost center.
_GrapeWine_ April 2nd, 2012, 10:10 PM I began my career with KINFRA (INFOPARK was under KINFRA, under the name KITEL, before it was rechristened as INFOPARK) and later Technopark. Wipro was requested to move to Infopark by the Govt citing the reason as Infosys had already started at Technopark.
When UDF ministry took charge in 2002, I myself had seen a letter written by the IT/Industry Minister to KINFRA that more focus would be given to the Parks at Kakkanad (Infopark)and the proposed HI Tech PARK at Kalamassery. I was a party to the meetings wherein L&T (they were the contractors of 'Bhavani' building at Technopark then) was persuaded with go ahead with parks in Kakkanad/Kalamassery. I still remember a presentation session before L&T at Trivandrum; they had thought that the project is planned in TVM and at the end when they asked can we go and see the site now, those who were presenting had to show a blank face saying that the site is 200+ kms away!!!
The result is the L&T parks you see in Infopark. Anyway even with all those push and efforts way back from 2002, Technopark was able to bag/retain biggies on its own.
Actually you explained my point here :)
All I was trying to say is, if there is a political will or will of the people in authority, even a place with less (or considerably less) potential can "bag a project" (as you guys term it). And this is applicable within the state and on the country level as well.
In your above experience, govt wanted to promote IT parks at Kakkanad and they did it! There is no contribution whatsoever of the real "potential" of that place! It is all about political will!
Similarly, when Wipro was asked to go to Kochi, why didn't they say "NO! we know Trivandrum has more potential and we will build here!!" WHY DIDN'T THEY? I will give you the answer. For the outsider company like wipro, at that time, both places in kerala were same with almost similar potential.. and SOPs offered were also same.. So it didn't matter for them whether it is Kochi or Tvm where they are investing.
You didn't get my point. I was comparing with the population of other so called 'big cities of India' which are big only in Population. And it was you who started with Population when Ajay said a fact that TVM is ahead of most other Tier II cities.
Ajay said TVM is ahead of most other Tier II cities in IT. Yes this is what he had said and I agree to it (only "in IT"). My response was for his statement putting TVM along with Pune, Gurgaon and Kolkata.
The living standards of general public of most modern cities of India are way below Trivandrum or other Kerala cities.
Just another claim! If by modern city you mean Mumbai, Delhi or Bangalore, then even living standard of tiny towns in Punjab/Uttaranchal/Himachal are also better than them. But does this comparison make any sense?
I live in Bangalore and can vouch for that based on parameters like percapita availability of good roads, streets, water, power, sanitation etc. I came to know about compromises only after shifting to Bangalore, whether it is the parking space for my car at my office, or the availability of water, or the frequent power cuts etc etc. Here we create islands of prosperity or gated communities, so that we will run generators to meet our power needs, buy water in tankers to use at home/office, tend to cope with the reality that you will require 1 hour to travel 10 Kms or appoint drivers etc etc.
It will be foolish to compare Tvm with Bangalore in terms of "living standards" and this term itself i quite complex. Whatever positive points you mentioned about Tvm above are applicable to many other cities when they are compared with Bangalore..
I was mentioning this only. The intellect or the standard of the people are not the same!! In most cities, people below BPL are huge, and Kerala is one place where there is more of equable Human Development.
Even if you cut 50% of kolkata population as not being as intellectual as TVMites, you still are left with SEVEN times more people having same intellectual levels. I have nothing more to say.. I hope you get my point. may be we are saying the same thing in different ways.. :chill:
_GrapeWine_ April 2nd, 2012, 10:20 PM Yes, we are, but based on firm facts. As Sudheesh mentioned above, Kerala has an IT Policy, where the incentives are uniform, at best, if not skewed against Trivandrum. Like Sudheesh, I have extensive direct experience dealing with the Government, especially in the matter of IT SEZs. Other than "persuading" companies to invest outside of Trivandrum, successive (UDF) Governments have done precious little to promote the State Capital.
Ok, so you mean to say, even after govt persuading companies to invest outside Tvm, some of them went against govt and pressed hard that they want to invest in Tvm? n why did they do so? I am really interested in your answer.
You will again say 'high quality human resources, institutions blah blah blah'.. yes they are there I agree. And they are there in many other cities across India. What fared better in case of Tvm is will of the people in authority (may not be govt)
In all these aspects many cities in India are promising and have great potentials. Why do we always have to strive for RANKING that we are number 1. Due to our education system and fierce competition, we are so used to these "merit list" kind of things.. I am No.1, you are No.2! Why can't it be a grading system.. like 'we all are A grade'.
I won't reply after this on this topic. Sorry for derailing the thread.
Ajaypp April 3rd, 2012, 12:14 AM Ok, so you mean to say, even after govt persuading companies to invest outside Tvm, some of them went against govt and pressed hard that they want to invest in Tvm? n why did they do so? I am really interested in your answer.
Private sector logic Vs public sector political interests. The first trumps the second in most cases, else the private sector suffers. QED.
Ajay said TVM is ahead of most other Tier II cities in IT. Yes this is what he had said and I agree to it (only "in IT"). My response was for his statement putting TVM along with Pune, Gurgaon and Kolkata.
Perhaps you could pay a little more attention to what I said and the statement that I was responding to, in case your intention in sparking this whole discussion is genuine which I hope it is.
If you have anything else to discuss, please do so in the General Discussions thread. Thanks.
Request the Mods to kindly delete this and other posts unrelated to this thread if and as soon as they see fit. Thanks.
sudheeshnairs April 4th, 2012, 08:10 PM The TWO Cs of III Phase taking shape.
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vjfile May 1st, 2012, 08:17 PM View from RDS Tranquil 9th floor
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vjfile May 13th, 2012, 05:58 PM http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3412/dsc03599fl.jpg
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TOMJOSEJOHN May 24th, 2012, 05:54 PM Shocking News...
Now there is some problem with the Technopark Phase III project site,because for the last 3 Months there is no workers in the site except few securities and also the glass fitting & otherworks is also stopped for the last 3 months.
shafi May 24th, 2012, 06:33 PM Shocking News...
Now there is some problem with the Technopark Phase III project site,because for the last 3 Months there is no workers in the site except few securities and also the glass fitting & otherworks is also stopped for the last 3 months.
it is not correct. Tile laying is in progress and they are procuring more materials for their interior works. LnT was awarded the interior work order for the first 3floors only and they are concentrating on that. Only after that, the work on the remaining portion will start.
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