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Oberleutnant September 16th, 2004, 07:35 PM Hi, this is a thread where you can put information related to all sorts of construction projects going on in Finland, whether they are buildings, infrastucture or anything else. There's only one rule: no high-rises, and with high-rises I mean buildinges over 12 stories tall. For them we already have a thread, which isn't going to be killed, despite early reports. :)
Feel free to add stuff, news, comments, or anything that might come to your mind.
ch1le September 16th, 2004, 07:36 PM your a wonderful organizer OL!
Oberleutnant September 16th, 2004, 08:08 PM :D Thanks, I'm just reading for a course exam called "Work and Organizing". Maybe it has its effect one me!
Olkiluoto Nuclear Power Plant, Olkiluoto
http://www.tvo.fi/uploads/epr_olk_a_031014_low(1).jpg
New Olkiluoto III on the foreground. (copyright: Teollisuuden Voima)
Finland's fifth nuclear reactor will be constructed in Olkiluoto, western Finland, next to two existing nuclear reactors dating back to 1980s. The reactor will be supplied by the French / German consortium Framatome ANP and turbines by Siemens AG. Once operational, total electric output of the new power plant will be approximately 1 600 MW. For comparison, the old reactors generate approximately 830 MW per reactor and one "Chernobyl" type reactor approx. 1 000 MW.
http://www.tvo.fi/uploads/EPRnettieng(1).jpg
The new reactor. (copyright: Teollisuuden Voima)
Nuclear waste generated by the three reactors will be buried deep underground in Olkiluoto, near the reactors.
http://www.tvo.fi/uploads/cave.gif
(copyright: Teollisuuden Voima)
Total cost of the project . . . 3 billion euros.
sdes September 16th, 2004, 08:09 PM The Vuosaari Harbour
The descriptions and images are copied from the www.vuosaarensatama.fi.
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http://www.vuosaarensatama.fi/img/pic/index.jpg
The most modern cargo harbour in the Baltic is being built in the Vuosaari
section of Helsinki. Cargo traffic will move there from the West and North
harbours in 2008. The project is being conducted by the Port of Helsinki,
the Finnish Road Administration, the Finnish Maritime Administration and the
Finnish Rail Administration.
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/english/projects/vuosaari/satama/pop_ups/images/karttalaaja.gif
Construction plans include convenient land and sea traffic connections for the Vuosaari Harbour. Up-to-date equipment will ensure that harbour operations are efficient. Once the harbour has moved away from the city centre, the West and North Harbour areas will be available for housing and business use. The business park to be built adjacent to the Vuosaari Harbour will create thousands of new jobs.
http://www.vuosaarensatama.fi/img/en/satama/Fotomontaasi_web.jpg
From north
Thousands of jobs connected with the harbour
The business park rising adjacent to the Vuosaari Harbour is estimated to create 3,500-4,500 new jobs. The area is large enough for 660,000 square meters of floor area for use as new business space. The Vuosaari Harbour will see Finland's largest logistics hub taking shape next to it.
http://www.vuosaarensatama.fi/img/pic/yritys1.gif
http://www.vuosaarensatama.fi/img/pic/yritys3.jpg
The total cost of the project is about EUR470 million according to the price level in May 2002. This includes EUR260.6 million for the harbour and EUR207.6 million for traffic connections. The Port of Helsinki will finance the harbour itself. It will also cover half the costs of traffic connections, with the Finnish state providing the other half.
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/english/projects/vuosaari/satama/pop_ups/images/satamamaaltv.jpg
The Vuosaari Harbour road connection will be constructed from the harbour to the east end of Ring Road III. To minimize the adverse effects of heavy truck traffic on nature in the Porvarinlahti Natura conservation area, this section of the road will run underground inside a tunnel. The new harbour road leading to Ring Road III will be two lanes wide and roughly three kilometres long. An extension to the Laivanrakentajantie road will serve to connect the harbour road to the rest of Vuosaari.
The stretch of Ring Road III between Itäväylä and Porvoonväylä will be widened to two lanes in anticipation of heavier traffic on Ring Road III and Itäväylä. Part of Itäväylä will be moved further north and a multilevel interchange constructed at the Ring Road III/Satamatie junction. Multilevel interchanges and speed restrictions will improve traffic safety even as transport volumes increase.
http://www.vuosaarensatama.fi/img/pic/liikenne2.jpg
Intersection
The 19-km Vuosaari Harbour track joins the main railway line in Kerava's Savio. In Porvarinlahti bay, the line passes over the Natura area along a 200-m bridge. Noise barriers will be constructed on this railway bridge and the bridge will be integrated into the landscape as well as possible.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/cloudsketchers/Projects/Harbourtower.jpg
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More info, visit: http://www.vuosaarensatama.fi/en/index.html
ch1le September 17th, 2004, 06:04 AM cool... although i aint a big fan of nuclear reactors.. well in Finland i guess they are ok, safe and all... but the one near st.Petersburg, and to a extent Ignaulina scare me!
NorthStar77 September 17th, 2004, 09:31 AM Huge stuff!
I am a little surprized though that Finland builds a nuclear powerplant, when Sweden is shutting theirs down(iirc).
A bit offtopic: Is Finland part of the nordic energy-exchange? Atleast in Norway, Sweden and Denmark, it's one single market, afaik.
Oberleutnant September 17th, 2004, 11:00 PM @ Ch1le
Oh, they are safe here. No fear of anything. :)
@ Northie
I think that nuclear energy is the best solution to meeting our increasing energy demand. It's clean, efficent and there are long-term plans for storing the nuclear waste in a safe location (as shown in the first post).
Yes, we're part of the nordic energy exchange. :)
Thx for the replies, we'll be concentrating on slightly smaller projects next. Total cost of these two alone is approx. 3.5 billion euros. :D
Oberleutnant September 18th, 2004, 09:40 AM Kampin keskus, Helsinki (ie. Kamppi center)
Kamppi square in downtown Helsinki was one of the last open areas in the city, serving as a bus yard. It was decided to relocate all traffic services underground and build residentials, shopping center and a market square in place.
Work on the project commenced in August 2002 and it's now still two years until being finished.
Kamppi in August 2002
http://www.kamppi.fi/uploads/kuvat/Monttu%20syyskuu.JPG
Currently, almost all underground work is done and buildings above are taking shape.
Kamppi as it will look like in 2006
http://www.kamppi.fi/uploads/kuvat/kuva_uusikamppi.jpg
Underground coach terminal
http://www.kamppi.fi/uploads/kuvat/mtaula_netti.jpg
Shopping center
http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvat/uutiset/2001/11/03/20011103opr03i.jpg
Residentials
http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvat/uutiset/2001/11/03/20011103opr08i.jpg
Webcam (works only in IE)
http://www.kamppi.fi/english/construction/webcam2.html
Kamppi in 1959
http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvat/kronot/kamppi/kamppi09.jpg
Kamppi in 19th century. The huge Russian military barrack which dominated the area was unfortunately destroyed in the Finnish civil war
http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvat/kronot/kamppi/kamppi01.jpg
Oberleutnant September 23rd, 2004, 01:28 PM KARTANONKOSKI, VANTAA
http://map2.dime.net/aimsMaps/alma5_sksims21898937060.gif
See the red dot, cut in half, in the north? :)
Situated near the Helsinki-Vantaa airport, 15 kilometers to the north of Helsinki downtown, is a relatively new housing area called Kartanonkoski. Its residential buildings have been designed in early 20th century style, and I consider it one of the best looking modern residential areas in the entire country.
http://www.vantaa.fi/binary.asp?path=1;135;137;222;11863;11864;11945&field=FileAttachment&version=1
http://www.vantaa.fi/binary.asp?path=1;135;137;222;11863;11864;11946&field=FileAttachment&version=1
http://www.vantaa.fi/binary.asp?path=1;135;137;222;11863;11864;11947&field=FileAttachment&version=1
http://www.dime.net/dime/img/al/a641/asunnot_167976_kuva1.jpg
New buildings under construction:
http://www.dime.net/dime/img/skanska/3490_Etuovi.jpg
http://muuttaja.com/fi/etsitko_kotia/kohteet/01_OA/OA_Vantaan_Kavaljeeri/Julkkari.jpg
Construction of Kartankoski buildings started few years ago and the area is now almost fully finished.
http://www.kivitalo.fi/esimerkkikohteita/images/kartanonkoski3.jpg
http://www.gloria.fi/PublicFiles/1573/kartanonkoski.jpg
(picture copyright: their respective owners)
My biggest gripe with the area is the lack of decent public transport connections to the city of Helsinki - only busses.
Oberleutnant September 25th, 2004, 12:39 PM LUTAKKO, JYVÄSKYLÄ
Here's another large-scale urban development project that is also almost fully developed by now - looks like I was a bit late with this thread! In the town of Jyväskylä, Central Finland, a former industrial area called Lutakko has been transformed into a residential / office area. Somewhat out of the ordinary is the number of mid-rises, because like in Helsinki, high-rises are not always considered very welcome in Finnish cities.
That didn't stop Jyväskylä from zoning the area for several 12 story residentials, one 15 story landmark office tower and a 16 story residential tower (construction hasn't started yet).
Almost the whole area, seen here in rendered form, has now been built. The taller residential tower will be built left of the white 15 story tower, on that empty spot next to the road that goes through the city:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/lutakko2.jpg
15 story, triangle-shaped Innova office building, built few years ago:
http://www.lutakko.com/innova.jpg
Oberleutnant October 19th, 2004, 03:27 PM Nobody cares, huh? :(
NorthStar77 October 19th, 2004, 04:35 PM Well, look at the number of views ;)
I personally have not seen this thread since before my vacation. The developements in Lutakko looks huge, and the two landmark towers will fit nice into the area, to sort of tell where the centre of the area will be(?). If only we could get some landmark towers in our projects here, like at Fornebu for example....:(
Devilution October 21st, 2004, 08:18 AM Quite interesting in fact, but sometimes I grow weary replying just for replying´s sake ;) Keep those presentations coming Ober, and don´t worry so much! :D
sdes October 21st, 2004, 08:21 AM ""That didn't stop Jyväskylä from zoning the area for several 12 story residentials, one 15 story landmark office tower and a 16 story residential tower (construction hasn't started yet).""
I visited in Siitonen's office last week. And he said that he hasn't heard nothing about tower (16-story res.) for a long time. He also mentioned that the planners are maybe "blocking his out", because they want that the tower will be designed by Jukka Tikkanen, mainly because he is from Jyväskylä. :/
Oberleutnant October 21st, 2004, 10:41 PM Text from tampere.fi
DEVELOPING A TRAM TRAIN SYSTEM IN THE TAMPERE REGION
A report commissioned by the city of Tampere, 'The utilisation of the heavy rail network in public transportation in the Tampere Region', was completed in January 2003. The working group preparing the report was unanimous in recommending the construction of a train tram system for the Tampere Region.
A train tram system would create a modern and environmentally responsible traffic system, providing a basis for land use and for the balanced development of the city.
The plan for the Tampere train tram system comprises two main train tram lines, both of which have extensions in the western and southern parts of the area. The network would serve the Tampere region, which is home to some 350 000 inhabitants living in five counties. According to the plan, the Tampere train tram system would use existing heavy railroad about 40 kilometers, 2/3 of the total length of the lines.
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/1616/entirenetwork.jpg
The train tram line would run in a tunnel under the Tammerkoski rapids in the city centre with two underground stations.
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/8531/keskusta.jpg
As the train tram line would be placed on the bridge leading to Hervanta suburb
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/9326/silta.jpg
As it would go in downtown area
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/4998/downtown.jpg
Fate of Tampere's tram train will be decided after the upcoming city council elections next Sunday
Oberleutnant October 21st, 2004, 10:47 PM Tampere is Finland's third largest city
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/869/nyssetulee.jpg
Here are some shots of similar systems from elsewhere in Europe
Strasbourg
http://www.tampere.fi/projekti/raideliikenne/kuvat/kuva6.jpg
Birmingham
http://www.tampere.fi/projekti/raideliikenne/kuvat/kuva23.jpg
The city of Turku, which abandoned its tram system in 1972, is also planning on creating a new light rail system to meet its needs.
Gatis October 21st, 2004, 10:58 PM :) sunny news. This is so interesting to see that tram is coming back. And the project in Tampere seems to be quite ambitious.
NorthStar77 October 21st, 2004, 11:41 PM Very good news indeed, I hope it will materialize:)
Devilution October 22nd, 2004, 07:40 AM This should have been realized a long time ago...Tampere downtown is really crowded by traffic usually and the legions of busses don´t really help the congestion. I sure hope they find the financing for this project soon, cause it is vital for further development of central Tampere.
Damn, if only this would have been up and running while I lived over there :)
ch1le October 22nd, 2004, 03:24 PM ow, cool ! me love trams and Lrts!
darkmage7280 October 22nd, 2004, 03:36 PM I don't think this will happen... :( Finnish cities and their citizens have a long history of standing in the way of development. No, rather the citizens keep on complaining about the traffic (which is indeed really congested like Devilution said), rather approve a plan like this.
grendy October 22nd, 2004, 10:18 PM Darkmage you're absolutely right. Well I don't know if it won't happen EVER but it won't happen very soon. Over 50% of people here are against the project because "it's too expensive"! I will vote on Sunday's election for a person who supports this project definitely :)
Oberleutnant November 18th, 2004, 11:06 AM West harbour / Jätkänsaari, Helsinki
Since all Helsinki cargo harbour functions will be moved to
Vuosaari once the new harbour is built, the currently
existing harbour area in western part of downtown will be
redeveloped into an extension of the downtown after 2008.
The project area
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/9616/area.jpg
No high-rises, as you can see (which is good in this case)
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/3863/jsaari1.jpg
Close up of the park
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/7350/thepark.jpg
Couple mid-rises (~ 12 floors). Itämerentori can be seen on the left.
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/237/midrises.jpg
NorthStar77 November 18th, 2004, 11:16 AM That is a huge developement! Nice to see that also Helsinki is moving their harbour out of downtown, and revitalize its waterfront:applause:
I am very much in favour of plans like these! But acctually I don't think a highrise or two would hurt;)
Moolio November 18th, 2004, 01:36 PM That's pretty cool, although the initial Jätkänsaari rendering a couple of months ago seemed a lot denser. I remember there was a lot of debate about it, because some people felt that it is going turn into a slum as it was planned for as much as 15'000 ppl. That does definitely look a lot cosier, but a couple of hi-rises wouldn't hurt though.
sdes November 18th, 2004, 01:52 PM Looks cool!
I agree with Moolio and NorthStar77, couple of high-rises wouldn't hurt. :)
Oberleutnant November 21st, 2004, 11:33 PM Here is another large-scale redevelopment of a harbour area, this time near Kallio where I live. The eastern Helsinki harbour, better known as Sörnäinen harbour, will also cease to be any need once Vuosaari harbour opens in 2008.
Planning is still at an early stage and these pictures merely show "possibilities"
As the area looks now, viewed from Viikki district.
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/3549/rightnow.jpg
Overview of the entire project area
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/7412/wholeara.jpg
This one should help to show the scale of entire area
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/5691/scale1.jpg
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/1737/scale2.jpg
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/4926/scale4.jpg
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/4651/buildings2.jpg
New metro station that will serve the area
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/7659/newmetro.jpg
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/9346/streetview.jpg
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/1782/harbourview.jpg
Construction of this one, Jätkänsaari and Keski-Pasila should begin in 2008.
Oberleutnant November 21st, 2004, 11:45 PM Viikki, Helsinki
Viikki is a countryside-like district of Helsinki and the center of bio / nature sciences research in the capital city region. It is situated ~ 10km northeast of the downtown,
Biokeskus, part of the Helsinki University campus area in Viikki
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/tiedepuisto/pop_ups/images/biokeskustiainen.jpg
Illustration of office buildings by the Viikki road
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/tiedepuisto/pop_ups/images/yrityspuisto780.jpg
Kaari building, which is under planning right now, will be occupied by animal / nature research bureaus of the Finnish state
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/tiedepuisto/pop_ups/images/eela780.jpg
Aerial of the science park area in Viikki where the above buildings are / will be situated
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/tiedepuisto/pop_ups/images/tiedepuistoik.jpg
There are also several new residentials under construction in Viikki. Here are some that have been recently built.
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/latokartano/pop_ups/images/kasvimaa.jpg
Aerial of the Viikinranta part of Viikki.
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/viikinranta/pop_ups/images/viikinrantailmakuva.jpg
This is where the Vantaa rapids meet the sea, the place where Helsinki was originally founded.
The old town rapids
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/viikinranta/pop_ups/images/vanhankaupkoski.jpg
Annala manor in Viikki, near the mouth of Vantaa rapids
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/helsinkipuisto/historia/pop_ups/images/annalanlampi.jpg
Gatis November 22nd, 2004, 09:51 AM The developments are large. Like very much that winding park in the middle of the new "downtown" - it should provide lots of good views if the buildings on both sides of this "river" would be expressive. But the buildings now seem to be too boxy and uninventive. They should organise separate tenders for each one of them to create diversity.
ch1le November 22nd, 2004, 09:55 AM yes, those projects are massive indeed... you may be slow with a highrise of two.. but if it comes to massivescale developments your very fast and efficent... not like in estonia...All massive projects here take aaaalooooong time to get some go
grendy November 22nd, 2004, 11:54 AM Now if these projects don't stop Helsinki's population from falling, nothing will! :) This year the population of Helsinki has decreased with 314 people! On the other hand Tampere's population has increased with 1752 people!
Population changes this year in some Finnish cities:
Espoo +2643
Tampere +1752
Vantaa +1372
Jyväskylä +1168
Oulu +1062
Kuopio +~300
Pori -54
Helsinki -314
ch1le November 22nd, 2004, 01:05 PM what??????????????? This Year?! -314?! Kiddinh me right? Tallinn gets 550ppl average a month! Thats ~7000+ people yearly... Aaah i got it... u see ppl in helsinki move to espoo... thats why´+2600 for espoo... clear... same thing is in tallinn alot Of people yearly move to outer suburbs... real growth of tallinn yearly can well exceed 10k
Oberleutnant November 22nd, 2004, 10:21 PM The developments are large. Like very much that winding park in the middle of the new "downtown" - it should provide lots of good views if the buildings on both sides of this "river" would be expressive. But the buildings now seem to be too boxy and uninventive. They should organise separate tenders for each one of them to create diversity.
This is exactly what will happen. :) It's up to the construction companies and the architects whom they hire to design individual buildings -- all they get from the city are rough guidelines (eg. facade materials should be tiles, no flat roofs are allowed, maximum height VII stories)
@ ch1le
Yeah, that's the trend here right now. People move to surrounding municipalities like Vantaa, Espoo and others. One of the reasons for this is the price level in the capital and lack of family-friendly housing.
sdes November 23rd, 2004, 09:00 AM "It's up to the construction companies and the architects whom they hire to design individual buildings -- all they get from the city are rough guidelines (eg. facade materials should be tiles, no flat roofs are allowed, maximum height VII stories)"
If it's up to construction companies, they'll built it as cheap as possible. They're going to use tile paneled elements (don't know if that's the right word). That's sad but true.
Architects are another matter. :)
Oberleutnant November 23rd, 2004, 10:41 AM ^
That's what construction companies everywhere do. They'll try to save as many pennies as they can, and thus prefer box-like buildings instead of structurally and financially more demanding projects. Almost everything here is made of pre-manufactured elements, then assembled on the spot.
But now comes the "but": Are modern residentials that bad in your opinion?
Take Kartanonkoski in Vantaa, for example:
http://www.dime.net/dime/img/al/a641/asunnot_167976_kuva1.jpg
(not my pic)
I'm fairly certain (not 100%) that all these buildings there, with the possible exception of shorter 2 story ones, were made of pre-manufactured elements, assembled, facade covered with tiles and painted over.
Another example of modern residential, this time from Kerava, built by a Finnish construction company as cheaply as possible:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/Kerava/keskusta3.jpg
^
VERY typical 21th century Finnish residential building
It's not ground-breaking architecture AND probably not anything like what you're going to find from Jätkänsaari. The city planning department supposedly wants it to feel like an extension of the city center, which means downtownish planning with shops on the street floors and buildings right next to each other, side by side.
I think you're referring to Cirrus with your comment? :) It's not neccessarily a best example on what comes to Finnish construction companies trying to get away with it with minimal profit loss. I can understand their modus operandi: they're not there to make art, they want to maximize their profit and sell apartments. If they had gone with Xky Xcraper proposal, I have a feeling that it might have gone the same way as TT in Malmö did: huge expenses, which the construction company would've tried to eliminate by selling the apartments at high-price = not enough customers.
The slender "L" proposal just didn't have enough apartments.
sdes November 23rd, 2004, 05:08 PM No, no ,you got me wrong
I like modern residentials, alot. :yes: Specially those with black "things" under the windows. Very simple architecture but looks nice.
"The slender "L" proposal just didn't have enough apartments."
Yep.
NorthStar77 November 24th, 2004, 09:05 AM Oslo and Helsinki have quite different trends when it comes to growth then. The suburbs are increasing in population here too, but the city is growing even more. Oslo city grew with 5.492 people in the first 9 months this year. And a huge majority of new residential projects are in the city core. The entrapeneurs don't make profit elsewhere. The high living costs in Helsinki should encourage more developers to see for possibilities to build central, and thus make the population to increase, not decrease.
But that will all change with those huge waterfront proposals:)
Oberleutnant November 24th, 2004, 09:52 AM No, no ,you got me wrong
I like modern residentials, alot. :yes: Specially those with black "things" under the windows. Very simple architecture but looks nice.
"The slender "L" proposal just didn't have enough apartments."
Yep.
Aaah, sorry! I was wondering why you all of a sudden seemed to be against modern residentials and the way they are built -- after all, "building as cheap as possible" has been the motto of the post-war construction business. Before 1940's, if you were a well-renown architect you had plenty of control over the project. :)
Oslo and Helsinki have quite different trends when it comes to growth then. The suburbs are increasing in population here too, but the city is growing even more. Oslo city grew with 5.492 people in the first 9 months this year. And a huge majority of new residential projects are in the city core. The entrapeneurs don't make profit elsewhere.
Interesting! :) And I'm really surprised about the last sentence
The high living costs in Helsinki should encourage more developers to see for possibilities to build central, and thus make the population to increase, not decrease.
But that will all change with those huge waterfront proposals:)
Yep. :D The problem is that before 2008 there is simply no vacant space left in central Helsinki unless the construction companies tear down the parks and a largeish cemetary (seen north of Itämerentori in this pic (http://img26.exs.cx/img26/3863/jsaari1.jpg)). This is the reason why the city began to slowly realize that there might be a need to build taller buildings in Keski-Pasila.
Oberleutnant November 28th, 2004, 11:52 AM I hope you guys do realize that these projects + the ones in high-rise thread aren't the only construction projects going on here. For or the past few years ~ 30 000 apartments have been built each year in Finland (34 000 in 1999). As what comes to office construction, demand for office space has slowed down a bit after hundreds of thousands of square meters of it were built around the turn of the century.
This is a map that shows all projects with over 10 000 square meters of office space that were planned / under construction in the capital city region in 2001
http://img49.exs.cx/img49/5208/allprojects2001.jpg
Some of them are finished, some still under planning and, of course, there are new ones.
Oberleutnant November 28th, 2004, 11:57 AM Sixth nuclear reactor possibile? We shall soon know early in 2005.
source (http://turunsanomat.fi/verkkolehti/?ts=1,4:4:0:0,4:4:1:1:2004-11-03;4:18:1:0:0,4:262770,1:0:0:0:0:)
See first page for more info about the fifth nuclear reactor that will be constructed.
Oberleutnant December 3rd, 2004, 12:21 PM Helsinki-Vantaa airport might be getting automated taxis in the near future. They would operate between the airport, the Aviapolis business park and Tikkurila (the main urban center of the city of Vantaa, ~ 15 minutes away from Helsinki).
Sorry about the small size
http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvat/pieni_webkuva/1101977896673.jpeg
A prototype should be finished by 2006.
Gatis December 3rd, 2004, 12:48 PM Absolutely great idea. Interesting, how much cost the investments?
Riga would badly need something like this... may be a bit more to mass transit side instead of private taxis... Our airport does not have tram, train or similar things...
Oberleutnant December 3rd, 2004, 12:54 PM Total cost of the entire project, if realized, is unknown. Apparently, the budget for the prototype test will be 150,000 EUR.
From techvilla.fi, the developers of the system
APGM Aviapolis feasibility study
The City of Vantaa’s Hitech Program has commissioned Hyvinkää TechVilla Ltd to study the feasibility of a new automated transit system (APGM - Automated People and Goods Movers) as a solution for short-haul traffic in the Aviapolis area. The project will be implemented between 1st April 2004 and 31st May 2005 with a budget of EUR 150,000.
Aviapolis as a target site
Aviapolis is the 42 km2 tract of land surrounding Helsinki–Vantaa international airport. The area contains numerous residential areas and is home to around 10,000 jobs, so arranging its internal traffic is a very challenging task. The high numbers of air passengers also boost traffic volumes. That means new solutions will be needed within the next few years for internal traffic in Aviapolis, and the APGM system is a potential solution.
Adopting the new system in an area like Aviapolis would be relatively easy because the area will be undergoing rapid development anyway in the near future. The City of Vantaa also wants to make Aviapolis a top-ranking area for logistics R&D through the Vantaa Hitech Program. The innovative transport system would strengthen Aviapolis's worldwide image as a Hi-Tech center.
Feasibility study
The purpose of the feasibility study is to ascertain whether the APGM system would be a cost-efficient solution for the Aviapolis area’s growing traffic needs and problems. Information will be collected from end users (ie, ordinary passengers) and from people responsible for designing, zoning and constructing both the airport and Aviapolis City.
The feasibility study will seek answers to following questions:
Aviapolis’s traffic flows: How many people travel in the area, which routes do they take and what means of transport do they use? How are traffic flows expected to develop?
Where should the travelway network be built in order to best serve the area’s transport needs?
Will passengers want to use the new system?
Capacity needs: How many vehicles are needed for traffic to run smoothly and flexibly?
What are the safety and environmental impacts?
Costs and economy: How much will it cost to build the system and how will capital investment and operating costs be funded?
Who will own the system and who will operate it?
and . . .
APGM combines transport, elevator and mobile phone technologies
The TechVilla APGM concept differs from existing solutions in that the vehicles are small and the travelways are lightweight. The concept is suitable for transporting passengers and goods over distances of up to 10 kilometers. APGM consists of automated, small, lightweight vehicles and a control system. Vehicles are easy to use and the electric drive technology they incorporate does not cause pollution. Vehicles can be described as "automated taxis".
APGM feasibility studies at Helsinki-Vantaa international airport and in the City of Tampere
The practical suitability of the APGM concept is being assessed in two feasibility studies. In Vantaa, the target area is Helsinki-Vantaa airport and its surrounding area (Aviapolis). In Tampere, the target of the study is an urban area. These studies will produce information on customer needs and limiting factors, on which design of the APGM prototype can then be based. The APGM concept’s market potential, competitive scenario and path to commercialization are also being investigated. The product development phase is scheduled to start during 2005, and will be headed by private companies.
Product development and translating the APGM concept into a marketable product will require a lot of work. The companies, universities, polytechnics and research institutes participating in the project will contribute the necessary resources and expertise. Small enterprises with strong specialized expertise also have the opportunity to participate in this large-scale innovation project, which could prove to be big business. TechVilla is seeking financing from numerous finance providers and venture capitalists.
Bolded the interesting part about Tampere. More good news for the city's mass transit, if things go smoothly.
Oberleutnant December 3rd, 2004, 01:35 PM This is, quite probably, one of the largest development areas in the Helsinki region. Several different projects and developments are related to it.
from wikipedia.org
"Vantaa (Vanda in Swedish) is a municipality in Finland. It borders Helsinki, the Finnish capital, on the north and east. Other neighbouring municipalities are Espoo in the west, Nurmijärvi, Kerava and Tuusula in the north and Sipoo in the east. Helsinki, Espoo, Vantaa, and Kauniainen make up the Helsinki Metropolitan Area.
Vantaa with its population of 184,039 (as of 2003-12-31) is the fourth biggest city of Finland. Its main claim to fame is being the location of the Helsinki-Vantaa Airport."
Helsinki-Vantaa Airport
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/9582/0b-hkivantaa.jpg
AVIAPOLIS, VANTAA
Map of the Aviopolis area
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/4221/f9-mapofaviopolis.jpg
1. Airport
2. Research and product development, corporate services, security-intensive operations.
3. Logistical operations, technical wholesale trade.
4. Technology centre, business parks, logistical services, knowledge-intensive productions operations, hotels.
5. Commercial centre
6. Concentration of small and medium-sized enterprises.
7. Residential areas providing all forms of housing and home ownership.
8. Research and product development, knowledge and technology-intensive production operations.
9. Concentration of small and medium-sized enterprices, logistics.
10. Motor sports area.
11. Recreation and amenity areas.
According to aviapolis.fi, already during the past five years, more than half a million square metres of professional floor space have been built in the Aviapolis area.
Some individual projects in the Aviapolis area
Kehä III / Tuusula motorway improvement as it will look like in November 2005
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/5376/dc-keha3.jpg
Mid-rise projects in Aviapolis
Aerial of the same place as above, this time with some of the planned buildings.
http://www.strombergpark.com/airportcity/images/ilmakuva.gif
Airport City West End
http://www.strombergpark.com/airportcity/images/etukuva.jpg
Veromies office project
http://www.sukkula.net/ssc/Veromies2.jpg
The 14 story hotel and entertainment center, situated together with the shopping center Jumbo, which is being enlarged.
http://www.vantaa.fi/binary.asp?path=1;135;137;222;2394;2829;2873;18292;21531&field=FileAttachment&version=2
Kartanonkoski housing area, which I talked about on the first page of the thread, is also part of the Aviapolis development. It's number seven on the map.
http://www.aviapolis.fi/english/alue_kuvat/isot/alue7/kuva17.jpg
Some existing office buildings in Aviapolis.
http://www.aviapolis.fi/english/alue_kuvat/isot/alue4/kuva10a.jpg
http://www.aviapolis.fi/english/alue_kuvat/isot/alue4/kuva10.jpg
Also, in addition to the automated taxi system, a regional railroad -- Marja-rata -- is being planned to the area. It would directly link the area to Helsinki via rail.
http://www.marja-rata.net/linjauskartta_uusi.gif
Cost of the Marja-rata would be 297 million EUR
Oberleutnant December 3rd, 2004, 01:43 PM http://www.marja-rata.net/marjarata-web.wmv
Ten minute long virtual animation of the Marja-rata, 37 megs. It's quite nice! Just don't use it to review what the buildings in the area look like. ;)
NorthStar77 December 3rd, 2004, 01:54 PM Interesting!
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/5376/dc-keha3.jpg
But do they really need to waste so much space on an intersection??
Oberleutnant December 3rd, 2004, 02:16 PM ^
No idea, but there's certainly no lack of space in Vantaa.
Here's an aerial / render of HTC Espoo office park being developed in Keilaniemi, Espoo.
http://www.htcfinland.fi/images/Ilmakuva%20HTC%20Espoo.jpg
Total floor space of the project will be 42.300 m2.
http://www.htcfinland.fi/HTC_files/Ilmakuva%20highlight%20HTC%20Espoo2.jpg
ch1le December 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM man that Keilaniemi area sure does have great prospects, im sure more scrapers there will follow soon, well fortum 2 is one for example...
Oberleutnant December 4th, 2004, 11:03 AM It would indeed have plenty of potential. A third tower would improve it tremendeously.
Today's Kauppalehti: Presso newspaper had a very cool article, where they talked about how Helsinki's streetlife could be improved. They brought up an example of Alexander street, which until 1990s was quiet and empty, full of only banks and offices. After the economic depression that hit the country, those were replaced by cafees, restaurants, night clubs and small shops. It is totally different place nowadays.
Alexander street in July 2004, my pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/katukuvia/katukuvaa2.jpg
They still think that sitaution in Helsinki is poor compared to other European capitals, however. One of the things that could be done would be to increase the amount of apartments in the heart of the city. Another suggestion: improve the liveliness of Alexander street by removing the traffic altogether and build a glass roof to cover the street:
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7698/ba-katettualeksi.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/5877/17-aleksikatettu.jpg
Here, on the other hand, is an official project from Tampere: a central tunnel through the downtown to help to reduce the traffic
http://www.tampere.fi/ytoteto/liikenne/tarkastelu/kuvat/loyk/keskustatunneli.gif
Oberleutnant December 4th, 2004, 11:15 AM And here is the Central Helsinki Tunnel, a project that has been planned for several years. It would go under the entire downtown Helsinki. Total cost of the project is estimated to be 250 million EUR.
http://www.mtv3.fi/uutiset/kuvat/kotimaa/grafiikat/keskustatunneli.jpg
Also, the network of service tunnels (they are easily big enough for cars) will be expanded. Orange colour = new service tunnel part.
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/kaavoitus/katsaus_2003/images/huoltotunneli.jpg
grendy December 4th, 2004, 11:20 AM That tunnel-option is not going to become reality. This option waas abondoned 17.9.2002 :). But this one will happen:
http://www.sci.fi/~olvari/pitk%e4tunneli.jpg
Oberleutnant December 4th, 2004, 11:23 AM Oooh, thank you for your correction! :)
ch1le December 4th, 2004, 05:03 PM well, as you guys sayd Helsinki has ALOT of tunnels and such underground.. so theres a alot of potential! :)
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 04:13 PM I saw Edd mention that there's nothing going on in Helsinki (have you checked out this thread? :D), so here are some of the non-highrise office projects NCC, YIT, Lemminkäinen, Hartela and Skanska have underway in Helsinki area, just pics because I don't want to spend all afternoon here.
This does not include buildings that individual companies have commisioned for themselves.
Business Park Mankkaa
http://yit.fi/binary.asp?guid=AFF25434-738A-405B-B291-F5851EAD8433&field=image
Haaganportti
http://yit.fi/binary.asp?page=13724&field=Image
Hermanni
http://yit.fi/binary.asp?page=10802&field=Image
Kalasatama
http://yit.fi/binary.asp?page=26146&field=Image
Keilaranta
http://yit.fi/binary.asp?page=20998&field=Image
Tikkurilan toimistotalot
http://yit.fi/binary.asp?page=13696&field=Image
Niittymaa
http://www.skanska.fi/templates/www/img/toimitilat/projekti_niittymaa/niittymaa_projektikuva.jpg
Lintulahti
http://www.skanska.fi/templates/www/img/toimitilat/projekti_lintulahti/lintulahti_projektikuva.jpg
Signaali
http://www.skanska.fi/templates/www/img/toimitilat/projekti_signaali/signaali_projektikuva.jpg
Arabianranta Portaali
http://www.skanska.fi/templates/www/img/toimitilat/projekti_portaali/portaali_projektikuva.jpg
Turvalaakso
http://www.skanska.fi/templates/www/img/toimitilat/projekti_turvalaakso/turvalaakso_projektikuva.jpg
Wavulintie
http://www.skanska.fi/templates/www/img/toimitilat/projekti_wavu/wavu_projektikuva.jpg
Atrium Business Park
http://www.ncc.fi/toimitilaa/toimistot/fi_FI/atrium/_files/70532212724007017/default/atriumvaalea.jpg
Falcon Business Park
http://www.ncc.fi/toimitilaa/toimistot/fi_FI/falcon/_files/70453578810787249/default/falcon.jpg
Menuetto Business Center
http://www.menuetto.fi/img/menuetto_top.gif
Bolero Business Park
http://www.bolero.fi/img/kuva_etusivu.jpg
Quartetto Business Campus
http://www.quartetto.fi/quartettoplus/img/etukuva.jpg
Polaris Business Park
http://www.ncc.fi/toimitilaa/toimistot/fi_FI/polaris/_files/70453517769639307/default/polarisjulkkari.jpg
Megahertsi
http://www.megahertsi.com/megahertsi_english/pics/ilmakuva2.jpg
Omega
http://www.palmberg.com/image.asp?Image=Att8589\127096.jpg
The demand for office space is low right now, so not that many office projects with larger construction companies going on. There are also several office projects, that aren't listed on websites of construction companies, such as Toimistokortteli Delfiini, waiting for Vuosaari harbour to be built
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/vuosaari/pop_ups/images/vuosaari_havainnedelfit.jpg
Helsinki region has roughly as much office space as Madrid, and much of this was built during the last few years.
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 04:27 PM Western metro
It's been planned for years, now it's mostly a matter of time if the cities and the state can agree on how costs would be shared.
Estimated cost of the project: 412 million euros
http://img115.exs.cx/img115/2909/metro22fa.jpg
The new line would go from western Helsinki to western Espoo.
http://img115.exs.cx/img115/4222/metro5mz.jpg
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 04:35 PM Another development area in Helsinki, Herttoniemen ranta.
Few years old aerial
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/hertsikkailmakuva.jpg
General plan
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/yleiskartta.jpg
Recently built residentials
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/krstalo2.jpg
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/osmonkatun.jpg
The canal
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/raitti.gif
Office buildings
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/ncc.jpg
And a better shot of that Megahertsi office / retail center
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/megahertyo.jpg
all pics copyright KSV
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 04:42 PM Against wishes of many people, the Helsinki city council recently
decided that the old Malmi airport, now used as city's secondary
airport, will be redeveloped into a residential area
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/malmi/suunnittelualue/pop_ups/images/histasemaduo.jpg
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/malmi/pop_ups/images/lentokentta_ik.jpg
Into this >
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/malmi/pop_ups/images/katu.jpg
We've had so many threads about Vuosaari, which is the easternmost
suburb of Helsinki. Its population is expected to rise dramatically in
the near future. Among better known projects such as Cirrus and the
harbour are things like the Aurinkolahti canal.
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/vuosaari/aurinkolahti/pop_ups/images/aurinkolahti_kanava.jpg
Residential at the end of the canal
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/vuosaari/aurinkolahti/pop_ups/images/aurinkolahti_kanavanloppu.jpg
Recently built residentials in Aurinkolahti beach, Vuosaari
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/vuosaari/aurinkolahti/pop_ups/images/aurinkolahti_panorama.jpg
Canal is still being "built".
Cirrus :)
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/vuosaari/keskusta/pop_ups/images/keskusta_cirrus.jpg
And something completely different, since with the exception of
Lutakko, Olkiluoto and Tampere tunnel / light rail system this
thread has been very Helsinki-centered.
The direct railway line between Kerava (okay, this town is part of
Helsinki region) and Lahti will be finished next year. "The line will
increase rail capacity to eastern Finland. Shifting traffic to this line
will also make it possible to make better use of capacity on the main
line from Helsinki to the north via Tampere. The fastest travel time
from Helsinki to Lahti will be reduced to 44 minutes. The direct line
is expected to serve around 4.3 million passengers in 2010."
Pictures from along the way
http://www.rhk.fi/oikorata/maisema_ljokil_iso.jpg
http://www.rhk.fi/oikorata/maisema_kauklamp_iso.jpg
http://www.rhk.fi/oikorata/maisema_hakosilt_iso.jpg
Map (the entire line can be seen in the upper right corner)
http://www.rhk.fi/oikorata/kartta/kartta.html
sdes January 13th, 2005, 05:35 PM post moved to the page 4
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 05:46 PM Edit: post refers to sdes' post containg few of the residential projects, which can be found from the second page
Coolness, good job, sdes.
Interesting! Rare that render looks worse than in real life.
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=23411&field=Image
Compared to these under construction shots
http://img98.exs.cx/img98/3710/kannelmaki4fn.jpg
http://img98.exs.cx/img98/3549/commiesuburb3ju.jpg
(the facade renovation on the other building is somewhat unfinished :D)
Ah, so it was YIT which was building this one!
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?guid=C3205F35-EE26-4386-8548-C3B5F0BCB82F&field=image
sdes January 13th, 2005, 05:57 PM Thanks, nice too see a clear list of the office projects in HKI area. :)
""Ah, so it was YIT which was building this one!""
Yes
Rendering
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3476/kohdepop_1.jpg
Other side of the building, UC
http://img62.exs.cx/img62/5879/vertailu8ka.jpg
Insane alex January 13th, 2005, 06:10 PM Very nice projects! :)
sdes January 13th, 2005, 06:19 PM Inspired by the Oberleutnants office projects in Hki area, I decided to make a post of the residential building projects in Helsinki (not in Espoo or Vantaa):
*moved this post to the page 4, because there are so many photos already on the page 3*
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Helsinki, Arabianranta
As. Oy Helsingin Villa Kine
http://www.att.hel.fi/kohdekuvat/th_kine_np.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Villa Arabia
http://www.att.hel.fi/kohdekuvat/th_varab_np.jpg
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Helsinki, Fallbacka
As. Oy Helsingin Lintukallio
http://www.palmberg.com/image.asp?Image=Att8703\131335.jpg
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Helsinki, Jollas
As. Oy Helsingin Paroninpiha
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/helsinki/fi_FI/paroninpiha/_files/70498259560435637/default/paroninpihakuva.jpg
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Helsinki, Katajanokka
As. Oy Helsingin Svingi & Tanssi
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?guid=06C36370-B895-4F1A-8153-A6C6DE85C4BB&field=image
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Helsinki, Kannelmäki
As. Oy Helsingin Rummunlyöjä
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=23411&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Viulunsoittaja
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=18283&field=Image
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Helsinki, Kumpula
As. Oy Helsingin Kumpulan portti
http://www.att.hel.fi/kohdekuvat/th_kumpulanportti.jpg
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Helsinki, Latokartano
As. Oy Helsingin Sananjalka
http://www.att.hel.fi/kohdekuvat/th_saniainen_kuva.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Saniainen
http://www.att.hel.fi/kohdekuvat/th_saniainen_kuva.jpg
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Helsinki, Lauttasaari
Asunto Oy Lauttasaaren Opaali
http://www.lujatalo.fi/editor/showattachment.asp?ID=576&DocID=235
As. Oy Helsingin Merenkulkijanranta
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?guid=C3205F35-EE26-4386-8548-C3B5F0BCB82F&field=image
As. Oy Helsingin Meriasteri
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/helsinki/fi_FI/meriasteri/_files/10703581390001272/default/meriasteriB.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Naskali
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=9409&field=Image
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Helsinki, Mankkaa
As. Oy Helsingin Wellamonrinne
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3480/ikoni.iso.jpg
--
Helsinki, Pasila
As. Oy Helsingin Pasilan Trio
http://www.asuntomyynti.hartela.fi/rakennusprojektit/paakuvat/pasila_trio_etu.jpg
--
Helsinki, Pitäjänmäki
As. Oy Helsingin Pajapuisto
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=34960&field=Image
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Helsinki, Punavuori
As. Oy Helsingin Uudenmaankatu 38
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=24676&field=Image
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Helsinki, Tilkka
As. Oy Helsingin Aurum
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=18862&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Albus
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=39597&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Laurus
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=33333&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Laurus
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=24222&field=Image
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Helsinki, Viikki
As. Oy Helsingin Toltti
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=27327&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Villa Galeijo
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=31723&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Villa Kamelia
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=26680&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Vouti
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=23130&field=Image
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Helsinki, Vuosaari
As. Oy Helsingin Casa Mare
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=30942&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Eastend
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3159/ikonikuva.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Iisoppi
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3485/Isoikoni.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Iltarusko
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=9300&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Korona
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?guid=6CA71125-155C-402E-BB30-064C6E60FC32&field=image
As. Oy Helsingin Kumina
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3476/kohdepop_1.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Meirami
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3446/ikonikuva.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Olivia
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?page=25528&field=Image
As. Oy Helsingin Pasaatituuli
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/helsinki/fi_FI/pasaatituuli/_files/70594214726926672/default/pasaatituuli.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Piparminttu
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3509/Ikonikuvaiso.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Poseidon
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3520/perskis_198x192.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Raakuna
http://www.palmberg.com/image.asp?Image=Att7622\131164.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Sikuri
http://www.skanska.fi/asunnot/img/3512/ikoni.i.jpg
As. Oy Helsingin Vanilja
http://www.palmberg.com/image.asp?Image=Att4074\130043.jpg
Asunto Oy Vuosaaren Kompassi
http://www.dime.net/dime/img/al/a652/asunnot_157322_kuva1.jpg
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 06:20 PM Some of the residentials under construction by NCC in Vantaa and Espoo, the two other big cities of Hki metro.
ASUNTO OY ESPOON PILVILAIVA
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/espoo/fi_FI/pilvilaiva/_files/70413802007560935/default/pilvilaivakuva.jpg
ASUNTO OY ESPOON ONNETAR
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/espoo/fi_FI/onnetar/_files/70429305845252154/default/onnetarkuva.jpg
ASUNTO OY ESPOON PISTAASI
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/espoo/fi_FI/pistaasi/_files/70413905303503686/default/pistaasikuva.jpg
ASUNTO OY ESPOON MANTELI
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/espoo/fi_FI/manteli/_files/70413848507777817/default/mantelikuva.jpg
ASUNTO OY VANTAAN METSOLANHELMI
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/vantaa/fi_FI/metsolanhelmi/_files/70497867860938626/default/metsolanhelmi1.jpg
Geex January 13th, 2005, 09:47 PM A lot of nice project, only thing i can see now that projects here in Vilnius are quite similar to projects Finland and other nordic nations (at least residental buildings).
sten January 13th, 2005, 10:02 PM And not to forget the Kamppi!! 12000 sqm of office space coming at you in about a year.
Kamppi - koko Suomen olohuone!
ch1le January 13th, 2005, 10:10 PM MMmm... thats alot of projects..
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 10:27 PM Thanks.
@ Geex
Yeah, all modern residentials in Nordic / Baltic cities have a similar look. There's plenty more being built or planned. Once West harbour, Keski-Pasila and Sörnäinen harbour can be started (see the second page), architects and construction companies are gonna have fun.
The renders you see are merely early plans, that are used to evaluate the functionability of the new area.
Keski-Pasila street view in 2010s, as seen by Italian architect company Cino Zucchi (Finnish high-rise projects thread)
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/pasila/suunnittelualueet/keski_pasila/pop_ups/images/zucchi_perspektiivi1.jpg
I wouldn't mind if they'd end up making the high-rises into what they are in the Zucchi's outline plan, but the residential buildings really need to look different from this.
@ sten
Kamppi is briefly mentioned on the first page! ;) They're putting the facades together right now and buildings are starting to gain some final look.
If I were to choose most interesting, individual non-high-rise residential projects in Hki, they would be these:
http://www.yit.fi/binary.asp?guid=C3205F35-EE26-4386-8548-C3B5F0BCB82F&field=image
http://www.ncc.fi/asunnot/paakaupunkiseutu/espoo/fi_FI/pilvilaiva/_files/70413802007560935/default/pilvilaivakuva.jpg
and the building at the end of Vuosaari's own little canal
http://www.hki.fi/ksv/projektit/vuosaari/aurinkolahti/pop_ups/images/aurinkolahti_kanava.jpg
sten January 13th, 2005, 10:35 PM Kauppalehti had an article about the Kampinkeskus yesterday. They were telling that office space in Helsinki area has a lot of overcapacity. That's the reason they haven't signed not one (!) contract yet to Kamppi. They will lower the rent now...
I think it's sad though, because overcapacity usually tends to slow new buildings to be planned or built. :(
Geex January 13th, 2005, 10:35 PM Keski-Pasila is really nice. I like form's like this and i hope they will build highrises. Well residental buildings look kinda gloomy, but that's just a render maybe they will change something ;)
Oberleutnant January 13th, 2005, 10:47 PM @ Geex
Yeah, those aren't final designs. :)
Kauppalehti had an article about the Kampinkeskus yesterday. They were telling that office space in Helsinki area has a lot of overcapacity. That's the reason they haven't signed not one (!) contract yet to Kamppi. They will lower the rent now...
I think it's sad though, because overcapacity usually tends to slow new buildings to be planned or built. :(
Thanks for the info. The construction business regarding offices overheated badly in the early 2000s, but I've got no data on how badly it's plummeted since then. (I need the info for Edd)
As far as I know, construction of Panorama Tower in Espoo hasn't still started. Same with Fenix Sirius in Tampere. High-rise projects seem to suffer first.
But to think that they're having trouble getting customers to Kamppi (!!!) is a bad sign. Maybe they just put the rent too high?
Helsingin Sanomat article from 2001 when the media was still "OOH, WOW!" about Nokia:
A glass and steel building frenzy sweeps over the Helsinki-Espoo shoreline
The chain of headquarters in Keilalahti will be completed in the summer
By Marja Salmela
"Ah, this is little Berlin! They are building here with as much fury as in Berlin over the past years", a German IT professional exclaims in Helsinki's Ruoholahti district.
Cranes and construction platforms jut out in every direction. The few idle spaces of ground are filled with workmen's barracks. Concrete is being laid in a huge pit for several floors of underground parking areas.
The completed glass walls and metal structures glimmer in the spring sunshine. The newest landmark of Ruoholahti, the Sitra tower, rises above the masses of office building construction sites, as high as the Olympic Stadium tower. Ruoholahti lies close to the centre of Helsinki, and much of the area now housing glass and concrete corporate citadels was not so long ago part of Helsinki's West Harbour. The district has also seen a good deal of residential accommodation going up in the past five years.
When the row of unfinished headquarters on the Keilalahti waterfront meets the German's eyes, he is even more stunned. "The whole city is one big construction site!" The comment is not quite accurate, since Keilalahti is technically in Espoo rather than Helsinki. All the same it must be said that the skyline here is the nearest Finland can get to a mini-Manhattan look.
And you can understand the Berlin allusions, too; the new German capital was one large construction site in the late 1990s as well, when the best architects designed colossal administrative buildings and headquarters to symbolise the advancement of Germany into a new era.
For their part, Ruoholahti and Keilalahti reveal how rapidly and energetically Finland broke onto the scene in the new information technology era. The monuments of the new economy have been designed by top-flight architects such as Pekka Helin, Vesa Olkkola, Tuomo Siitonen , Antti-Matti Siikala, Mauri Tommila and Kaj Wartiainen .
The construction
of IT city districts is an extraordinary stage in the development of the Helsinki metropolitan region. The glass-walled headquarters and steely office towers and atriums will remain in the city landscape as reminders of the triumphs of the electronics and IT businesses.
"The Senate Square was created as an expression of the Czar's will. Now the electronics and IT companies are shaping the city. The change manifests itself in this manner", Vesa Olkkola describes.
The driving force behind the office construction is of course Nokia - both in Keilalahti as well as in Ruoholahti. The company's headquarters just over the border in Espoo, completed three years ago, will expand in May as the third unit is finalised. "Even there the central element is the atrium, just like in the other buildings. Only this time, it is shaped like a half-moon", Pekka Helin explains.
The city plan would have allowed for towering buildings, but according to Helin, Nokia CEO Jorma Ollila did not warm to the idea.
For a long time, the symbol of Keilalahti was a lonely 22-storey beacon that in its day told the tale of the prominence of the state-owned oil company, Neste. Now the Fortum flag flies on the roof of the tower block that used to be known jocularly as "Raade's Tooth" after a former Neste CEO.
The silhouette is becoming more balanced as the Fortum tower is joined by the Kone tower, designed by Antti-Matti Siikala.
"The tower could have been even higher, as it does not ruin the silhouette of Helsinki's church towers."
The core business of elevator manufacturer Kone can be seen all the way to the Länsiväylä freeway. According to Siikala, the building boasts a "mobile façade", where illuminated elevators move up and down.
Ruoholahti is an exceptional
phenomenon even by world standards. When the new office buildings are completed, 12,000 people will be working in an eight-hectare, downtown-style area. In California's Silicon Valley, for example, the high tech companies have spread out like a thin carpet over a distance of tens of kilometres.
Keilalahti will remain a slightly smaller concentration of employment. Once the boom has swept the shores from one end to the other, there will be 7,000 jobs located in Keilalahti.
The construction of the new offices
began in Ruoholahti in 1997. Just before Christmas, the staff of Sitra and Pricewaterhouse-Coopers moved into the glass tower designed by Pekka Helin. A couple of weeks ago, a house-warming party was held at the Finnish headquarters of Swedish mobile industry operator Telia.
The first of the Helsinki High Tech Center buildings will be completed in a few weeks' time at Tammasaarenranta in Ruoholahti, and information security company F-Secure is due to move there in mid-March.
The HTC has been designed by the office headed by Olkkola, along with Kaj Wartiainen. The shapes are futuristic. The buildings are partly off the ground - like they are taking off from earth.
One would think that the information technology companies, so careful about their corporate security, would choose to operate in campus-style premises that are sealed off from the public - but not a bit of it - the image of IT companies also calls for pleasant surroundings by the workplace. Hence the buildings will have cafes, restaurants - maybe even stores - as well as an outside terrace for summertime.
Next up are the buildings of Nokia, opposite the Kemira headquarters. Nokia Venture, responsible for the development of new products, will move in during the spring of next year. Helin explains that the company felt it was important that the jobs of over one thousand employees are located near a subway station.
Construction on HTC number two is due to begin next month, when the underground parking garage for 1,500 vehicles is completed along the main thoroughfare, Porkkalankatu. It is estimated that the four buildings in this venture will be ready by 2003. By then the whole of Ruoholahti will be quite filled up.
Insane alex January 15th, 2005, 01:33 AM I love that highrise, really neat! :)
Oberleutnant January 15th, 2005, 01:54 AM See the Projects thread here ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=1508648#post1508648 ) for more info. :)
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/zucchi/kpetelasta.jpg
I'll pay the favour and go through all the new stuff that has gathered in Stockholm projects thread. :)
Edit:
Similarities?
My pics from Ruoholahti, Helsinki
http://img110.exs.cx/img110/6981/canal8rk.jpg
http://img110.exs.cx/img110/34/canal28ep.jpg
And your picture of Hammarby's canal
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5df31b3127cce9e5dd04c772e00000006109AaNGTJk3bW
:D
Bond James Bond January 15th, 2005, 07:15 AM From the looks of these renderings, I would say that Finns have perfected the art of the commieblock. :yes:
ch1le January 15th, 2005, 01:04 PM indeed when i looked at Hammarby i was like, this is ruoholahti :P
cool, so similar.
Insane alex January 15th, 2005, 01:35 PM Yes, it is very similiar to Hammarby Sjöstad! :) Ohh i love that big project with all the highrises! :)
grendy January 15th, 2005, 04:11 PM From the looks of these renderings, I would say that Finns have perfected the art of the commieblock. :yes:
Haha :D
Edd January 15th, 2005, 08:15 PM Yep, I'm replying to this thread, I bet Ober will be surprised. :D
It seems that there are many commieblock v2.0 projects in Helsinki and I agree that they look very nice, with Scandinavian quality. (by saying Scandinavian I also mean Finland) I looked fast through all these projects and I liked Megahertsi office/retail center and ofcourse Keski-Pasila project the most. When the first constructions are starting in Keski-Pasila?
Moolio January 15th, 2005, 09:12 PM Yep, I'm replying to this thread, I bet Ober will be surprised. :D
It seems that there are many commieblock v2.0 projects in Helsinki and I agree that they look very nice, with Scandinavian quality. (by saying Scandinavian I also mean Finland) I looked fast through all these projects and I liked Megahertsi office/retail center and ofcourse Keski-Pasila project the most. When the first constructions are starting in Keski-Pasila?
Once the new harbor in Vuosaari is completed, so around 2008, and I think it'll be ready for the most part by 2010.
Edd January 15th, 2005, 10:04 PM 2008 quite a long time to wait, maybe there'll be more similar projects realised by that time.
sdes January 15th, 2005, 11:01 PM Once the new harbor in Vuosaari is completed, so around 2008, and I think it'll be ready for the most part by 2010.
I think that it will take more time, because they have to clear the current area (mainly railroads) and maybe clean the soil. There "might" be some complaints about the planning too. After that the construction can start. My guess is that the area will be ready around the year 2015.
Oberleutnant January 16th, 2005, 01:01 AM Edd, I was surprised. :D
Thank you for interest and question.
As others said, construction won't be able to start until Vuosaari harbour is finished.
Right now Helsinki has two cargo harbours located near the city center, but they take space that could be used for developing the city, so a new harbour in Vuosaari suburb is being constructed.
On this map, Vuosaari harbour is the pink spot in the east:
http://img81.exs.cx/img81/1063/someidea7vh.jpg
Keski-Pasila = smallest red area in the center
Sörnäinen harbour = eastern red area, the long strip
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/5691/scale1.jpg
West harbour = western red area
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/3863/jsaari1.jpg
Yellow colour = the "central" areas of the city
Cyan colour in the north = Aviapolis development area
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/4221/f9-mapofaviopolis.jpg
The reason why they can't start building Keski-Pasila right now is that the area consists of railroad tracks that serve Sörnäinen and West harbour at the moment.
Vuosaari harbour in December 2004 (copyright vuosaarensatama.fi)
http://img85.exs.cx/img85/9445/vsatama26ae.jpg
It's a 200 hectare area with 150 going for the harbour functions and 50 hectares going for the Vuosaari business park.
http://img85.exs.cx/img85/9989/vsatama1eu.jpg
It's not just the harbour which takes time to get finished. An entirely new railroad line to serve the Vuosaari harbour is also being constructed. It will join the main track in Kerava, 30km north of Helsinki. Thing is, it will go in several tunnels for a quite part of that trip. This of course doesn't make construction any easier.
http://img85.exs.cx/img85/8070/underground3pt.jpg
As what comes to high-rise projects similar to Keski-Pasila, I don't think there will be anything of similar scale.
Aviapolis might get several mid-rises in 12-16 story range:
http://www.strombergpark.com/airportcity/images/ilmakuva.gif
Keilaniemi area shall have one additional building built, more if they get all silly at the Espoo city planning department all of a >>
http://neuro.hut.fi/~mseppa/photos/finland/espoo2002/keila.jpg (a good pic, really)
And so on, but nothing else. Developers don't have anywhere as much power here as they do in Baltic countries.
@ Insane alex
I shall address Sthlm thread properly "soon". :)
Oberleutnant January 16th, 2005, 01:04 AM Here's the Keilaniemi pic what I would've liked to inline, but didn't want to mess up formatting. The new "high-rise" will rise next to the building on the right. Yay . . .
http://neuro.hut.fi/~mseppa/photos/finland/espoo2002/keila.jpg
Copyright: Mika Seppä
It's hardly comparable to Keski-Pasila, and even with more high-rise buildings
around, Keillaniemi would still remain as dead as a doorknob, since it's 100%
business "district".
The other new metroline
(I personally feel infrastructure projects such as these to be much more
important for the city than a 15 story high-rise)
As you can see on this map, in addition to the western route (the red line
that goes to the west, naturally) the metro network could be enlarged so
that it would cover Pasila in the north and the growing area of Kulosaari in
the east of the downtown cape.
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/pasila/liikenne/pop_ups/images/tavoteverkko.jpg
Edd January 16th, 2005, 01:49 AM Thanks for comprehensive explanation Ober, that was really interesting to read. So Sörnäinen and West harbours will be redeveloped and new Vuosaari harbour will be built and it'll take functions of old harbours (if I understood it correctly) - that's a HUGE project. One thing which is bad that I can't see any high-rises in redevelopment plans of old harbours - they could have planned some nice high-rise cluster which could form a nice waterfront.
Now it's clear why Keski-Pasila will be started to be realised after 2008 year (or later).
Keilaniemi area looks very nice, are there any renderings of how new building there will look like?
sdes January 16th, 2005, 10:42 AM One thing which is bad that I can't see any high-rises in redevelopment plans of old harbours - they could have planned some nice high-rise cluster which could form a nice waterfront.
I agree with you.
Keilaniemi area looks very nice, are there any renderings of how new building there will look like?
Here's the pic that Ober found couple days ago. :) As you can see the building won't be visible from that angle (http://neuro.hut.fi/~mseppa/photos/finland/espoo2002/keila.jpg):
http://www.atl.fi/toimistot/Arkkitehtitoimisto_CJN_Oy/fi_FI/suunnitelmat/_files/11032245930049053/default_FS/atl_fortumcam-03.jpg
Geex January 16th, 2005, 10:44 AM I agree with you.
Here's the pic that Ober found couple days ago. :) As you can see the building won't be visible from that angle (http://neuro.hut.fi/~mseppa/photos/finland/espoo2002/keila.jpg):
http://www.atl.fi/toimistot/Arkkitehtitoimisto_CJN_Oy/fi_FI/suunnitelmat/_files/11032245930049053/default_FS/atl_fortumcam-03.jpg
Nice, how tall it will be? :)
sdes January 16th, 2005, 10:49 AM More than 60m (17x3.6=61.2) :)
Edd January 16th, 2005, 12:24 PM Thanks for rendering sdes, the tower looks very nice and "glassy". I think that Keilaniemi area needs more high-rises or atleast some lowrises/midrises to fill in the gaps and make it denser, although it already looks good.
John January 16th, 2005, 12:35 PM That's quite a surprise, Kailaniemi indeed needs some more high-rises and for some reason I thought there were no plans to build anything new there, now it seems things have changed. Are there any chances that more highrises would be built there in the future?
ch1le January 16th, 2005, 12:55 PM well john, there certainly is room there :) behind the road there is alot of development space :)
Oberleutnant January 16th, 2005, 09:45 PM Thanks for comprehensive explanation Ober, that was really interesting to read. So Sörnäinen and West harbours will be redeveloped and new Vuosaari harbour will be built and it'll take functions of old harbours (if I understood it correctly)
Yes, that's exactly how it goes. :)
And hey, thanks for your reply.
- that's a HUGE project. One thing which is bad that I can't see any high-rises in redevelopment plans of old harbours - they could have planned some nice high-rise cluster which could form a nice waterfront.
True that. The city architect responsible for the zoning of the western harbour, Jätkäsaari, is very anti-high-rise, even to the point that he has openly attacked high-rise fans on the city planning department forums in the past. :D
They'll start making detailed plans for the areas this year.
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/lansisatama/suunnittelualueet/jatkasaari/pop_ups/img/jsosayleiskaava_s.jpg
About 20,000 people are expected to move in to the area after this decade. At best it's probably going to get only 12 story buildings.
Now it's clear why Keski-Pasila will be started to be realised after 2008 year (or later).
Keilaniemi area looks very nice, are there any renderings of how new building there will look like?
Sdes already posted the other render, here's the other one we have:
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/projektit/149779.jpg
@ Geex
As sdes said, over 60m :).
Judging by the render (the building on the left is 87m), it seems closer to 70m.
@ John, Edd
We don't know if anyone is planning more high-rises.
There's potential in Keilaniemi, but it's hard to imagine that the people responsible for planning realize this. The eternal pessimist in me says that it won't get any new high-rises soon, if ever, when the second Fortum tower gets built.
From Helsinki, Keilaniemi looks undense, unurban, perhaps even bland. The best view (IMHO) is from the highway next to it:
http://img97.exs.cx/img97/975/kniemi8mi.jpg
JR January 16th, 2005, 11:11 PM Hi y'all!
Even though I have frequently visited this forum for over a year, this is my first post. And I know this thread isn't about Keilaniemi but since several pics from there has been posted, here are a few more. All pics (c) by me.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/keilaniemi.jpg
Keilaniemi at night 12/2003. Similar to the one above.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/keilaniemi2.jpg
From same place as one of the pics posted above, except taken at night 12/2003.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/fortum.jpg
Fortum with the "independence day - lighting" 12/2004.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/fortum2.jpg
Same thing from a different angle 12/2004.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/nokia.jpg
Nokia at night 12/2003.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/nokia2.jpg
Nokia with "independence day - lighting" 12/2004.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/kone.jpg
Kone building 12/2004.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/shadow.jpg
Kone building and the shadow in the clouds 12/2003.
Does anyone know what the situation with Fortum 2 is? I remember reading couple of years ago that at the moment Fortum does not need the extra space. So even though the building has been approved, Fortum doesn't have any plans to build it yet.
Hopefully I'm wrong because Keilaniemi would really look better with a couple of more towers. They'd look especially good in the big gap between Kone and Fortum.
Geex January 16th, 2005, 11:14 PM Nice pics, thanks @JR. I like buildings near water at night very much.
Edd January 16th, 2005, 11:35 PM Nice shots, although some of them are a bit too dark. I liked this one the most, Keilaniemi looks very dense here: http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/keilaniemi2.jpg
And welcome to SSC! :hi:
chukchi January 17th, 2005, 01:20 AM Hi JR :hi: Very nice pictures
I think that Keski-Pasila is really nice :yes:
ch1le January 17th, 2005, 07:13 AM wow, nice pics, Welcome JR!!! glad to see another one stepping out of the mass!
Devilution January 17th, 2005, 01:59 PM Great nite-shots there JR! The thing with Fortum 2 is that the company has decided not to build anything at the site for two or three years but after that - maybe. I am also kinda pessimistic about any other new towers, only the ones that are currently planned for residential use seem to get realized. There´s just not enough demand for office space in Helsinki region at the moment. Even those that are almost finished in Kamppi are said to remain unsold. Damn shame...
NorthStar77 January 17th, 2005, 02:13 PM Whoa, nice pics JR!! And welcome:)
sdes January 17th, 2005, 04:08 PM Great shots JR. Welcome!
Checked your website, nice job. :)
In what part of Hki you live in?
Oberleutnant January 17th, 2005, 05:02 PM Wow, a new forumer with a serious take on the business! Welcome! :) Love your website, I'm going to copy your list of reasons why high-rises are good and why criticism against them bad for future reference. The idea about the Otaniemi tower is excellent.
As what comes to Fortum II, I was under the impression that they might start construction in 2006-2008.
TIKKURILA
Tikkurila is among the largest urban centers in Helsinki metropolitan area, which is undergoing a new growth phase. The construction of the 50 meter tall Kielotorni mid-rise is well underway, but the development won't stop there.
Area near the Tikkurila railway station. Among new buildings is a brand new, round-shaped railwaystation.
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/7991/tikkurila11mf.jpg
Street-level view
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/5636/tikkurila26vq.jpg
Area near the Vantaa river will get new buildings and streets
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/5643/tikkurila47ma.jpg
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/8721/tikkurila37ll.jpg
Also, Tikkurila might get a tram system!
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/1242/tikkurila56sm.jpg
JR January 18th, 2005, 12:13 AM Hope you guys are right about Fortum II. And because the planners approved Kone Building and FII, it's not impossible for them to approve even more h-rises in the Keilaniemi area. The only problem is that it's getting pretty full with all the low-rises. There's still some room for a few thin towers. Maybe if they put the Ring Road I underground, they could build some over that.
I remember reading some time ago about possible high-rises in Tapiola, close to Länsiväylä road. I found it again. Don’t know if someone has already posted these plans, at least I couldn't find them anywhere in the forum. But anyway...
Tapiola region in Espoo is in serious need of improvement. It's oldish and is being overrun by other areas like Matinkylä and Leppävaara. In Dec 2003 the city of Espoo released a situation report on the redevelopment of Tapiola. Can be found here: http://www.espoo.fi/attachment.asp?path=1; 606;609;4244;36008;46385;46386
Some parts of it:
"Laaditun esiselvityksen mukaan Etelä-Tapiolan uusi kaupunkikuvallinen ilme muodostuu kolmesta tornimaisesta rakennuksesta Länsiväylän varressa sekä matalammasta nykyistä yritysaluetta täydentävästä rakentamisesta, joka perustuu yritysten tarpeiden kartoittamiseen. Uutta rakennusoikeutta on kaikkiaan vajaat 100.000 k-m2."
"Professori Matti Rautiola ARRAK Arkkitehdit Oy:stä on laatinut Etelä-Tapiolan tulevaisuutta koskevia selvityksiä. Tässä vaihtoehdossa Länsiväylän varteen sijoittuvien tornien pääkäyttötarkoitus on asuminen."
So basically they're planning a few residential high-rises in Tapiola, not far from Keilaniemi. And here's a crappy pic of what they would look like:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/pics/tapiola.jpg
Let's hope for the best.
BTW I live in West Helsinki, in Munkkiniemi. And the web page is just something we made for fun. It's really under construction and the current version is something we put together pretty quickly. We're gonna keep updating as we have time to do new stuff and fix some of the current contents.
What really annoys me is that a lot of Finns object high-rises for no "real reason". I guess I hope a lot of them would wind up reading those pages and would read about all the misconceptions concerning skyscrapers. Ultimately, of course, I hope they would be converted and tall buildings would have wider support in Finland. :)
Oberleutnant January 18th, 2005, 01:11 AM Wow, didn't know about this plan - muchos gracias! Those mid-rises are only half a kilometer away from Keilaniemi, see the Nokia HQ on the upper left corner
I found these detailed pictures from Arrak Arkkitehdit website.
http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/Still_592.jpg
http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/Ilmakuvaupotus_592.jpg
http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/STILL_pohj_etela_592.jpg http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/STILL_Tornit_592.jpg
http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/kaaviokuva_592.jpg
Rendered animations too
http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/johdantoa2.mov
http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/tornit_320_400.mov
http://www.arrak.com/pages/tapiola/tori320_240.mov
:)
LatvianGG January 18th, 2005, 09:00 AM Many nice urban development projects! Finland is definetily not sleeping ;)
PC January 18th, 2005, 10:00 AM Up to 900 new apartments will be built in Myyrmäki, the largest and most urban center in Vantaa, during the next few years. The largest of these projects is Kilterinmäki (600 apartments), behind the old Fortum headoffice. The construction will start this spring:
http://koti.welho.com/pcatani/km4.jpg
http://koti.welho.com/pcatani/km1.jpg
http://koti.welho.com/pcatani/km2.jpghttp://koti.welho.com/pcatani/km3.jpg
DHL will centralize all it's operations, including headquarters, in Finland to a new DHL Business Park, which YIT will start building already this month. It will be located in Vantaa in the Aviapolis area close to the third runway of the airport. Size: 40.000 m2. You can see the runway in this picture:
http://koti.welho.com/pcatani/dhl1.jpg
NorthStar77 January 18th, 2005, 10:14 AM What really annoys me is that a lot of Finns object high-rises for no "real reason". I guess I hope a lot of them would wind up reading those pages and would read about all the misconceptions concerning skyscrapers. Ultimately, of course, I hope they would be converted and tall buildings would have wider support in Finland. :)
It's exactly the same here. Many people associate tall buildings with ugly apartment-blocks put up in the 60'ies, and therefore do not want them. Fortunately things seems to start changing, many young people like tall buildings. Last week, highrises was in the news again here in Oslo. The final law on how to deal with future highrises is not yet decided, so some politicians went to Marseilles(of all places, and they had no experts like architects or urbanists with them:nuts: ) to study how tall buildings affect the surrounding hills. In some forums I have seen, this has not sparked any debate. Only pro-highrise people have come with their opinions, after the anti highrise people have been humiliated by their stupid arguments before.
This is taken from an earlier debate, it must be irony, but I'm sure that's how many people think(I hope most of you finns get the essence of this)
"Det er tull å bygge høyhus i Oslo.
Det er bygd alt for mye i Oslo for lenge siden.
Det bor for mye folk i Oslo. Derfor er det så dyrt her.
Hvis det hadde bodd mindre folk her så hadde det blitt billigere.
Derfor er det ikke rette veien å gå å bygge høyhus i Oslo.
Tvert imot riv bygninger slik at folk flytter ut av byen. Da blir det billigere
også.
Hilsen nullen."
:lol:
Oberleutnant January 18th, 2005, 03:08 PM ^
Don't expect people to be logical. :)
Another potentially interesting project from Helsinki region again . . . Last autumn, the city of Vantaa announced the winning design for a cultural center in Tikkurila, 15km from Helsinki downtown.
From Finnish news agency STT
"The planned centre would be seven times the size of Heureka, comprising of 50,000 square metres and spanning over 4.5 hectares."
"The foundation which runs Heureka plans to construct a three-dimensional super cinema, restaurant and a cluster of laboratories on the site."
"Further, the plans feature a dance hall with a capacity of 2,000, exhibition buildings for aircraft and aeronautical equipment from nearby Aviapolis, a museum of information technology, a showcase for Finnish television broadcasting, an adult education centre as well as 14,000 square metres of space for businesses."
"A family hotel by Sokos is set to take care of the accommodation needs."
"Costs are estimated to hover between 100 and 200 million euros, but funding is largely unsecured."
http://www.jkmm.fi/vantaa/vantaa_01_big.jpg
http://www.jkmm.fi/vantaa/vantaa_02_big.jpg
http://www.jkmm.fi/vantaa/vantaa_05_big.jpg
http://www.jkmm.fi/vantaa/vantaa_07_big.jpg
To get an idea of the scale, this is the building you can see on the lower area in that overview pic.
http://www.suomiopas.fi/matkailuhaku/kuntakuvat/mainoskuvat/0130Heureka.jpg
@ PC
Thought you were gone, glad this is not the case.
NorthStar77 January 18th, 2005, 03:25 PM WOW, that is some cultural center! It reminds me of a similar project in Hong Kong. This must be, if built, one of the, if not THE biggest cultural center or similar in our region!(?)
Moolio January 18th, 2005, 03:40 PM WOW, that is some cultural center! It reminds me of a similar project in Hong Kong. This must be, if built, one of the, if not THE biggest cultural center or similar in our region!(?)
I have to say, it does conjure up the cultural hub of HK, or whatever they call it. In smaller size of course, but still this is an amazingly large project by Finnish standards (by any standards, really)... :eek2: I didn't even know about this until now... For once, I can say "wow!" for a Finnish project. :)
ch1le January 18th, 2005, 03:53 PM WOW, that is some cultural center! It reminds me of a similar project in Hong Kong. This must be, if built, one of the, if not THE biggest cultural center or similar in our region!(?)
Kowloon?
when i first saw it I was like, this is Kowloon... Norman foster rocks...
Its going (if it will) to be a very awesome building!
Geex January 18th, 2005, 05:13 PM cultural center project rocks!
PC January 18th, 2005, 06:41 PM The cultural center project is very interesting and the pictures look great!! Here's an article about it from Vantaan Sanomat 27.10.2004:
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Kulttuurikeskittymän
ensimmäinen vaihe
rakenteille keväällä 2006
Tanssitalon suunnittelu alkaa lähiaikoina
VS/Johanna Halava
Tiedekeskus Heurekan itäpuoliselle alueelle suunnitellun Tikkurilan kulttuurikeskittymän rakentaminen pääsee näillä näkymin alkuun vuoden 2006 keväällä. Ensimmäisessä vaiheessa on määrä rakentaa ainakin tanssitalo ja Sokos Hotels -ketjun hotelli.
Kulttuurikeskittymän arkkitehtuurikilpailun elokuussa voittanut arkkitehtitoimisto JKMM Oy ja tanssitalon rakennuttaja Niskankoski Oy ryhtyvät pian tekemään tarkempia suunnitelmia tanssitalon osalta.
- Siellä järjestetään lavatansseja ympäri vuoden ainakin kolmesti viikossa. Talossa tulee olemaan myös tanssikerhotoimintaa ja tanssin opetusta. Tavoitteena on pitää myös kansainvälisen tason tanssikilpailuja muun muassa vakio- ja latinalaistansseissa, valottaa Niskankosken projektipäällikkö Tiina Tuomikoski.
Hänen mukaansa talon päiväkäytöstä ei ole vielä tehty päätöksiä.
- Tällä hetkellä pohdiskelemme sitä, minkälaisia tapahtumia talossa olisi mielekästä järjestää. Lähtökohtaisesti talo tullaan rakentamaan hyvin monikäyttöiseksi. Suunnitelmissa on vilahdellut tilojen vuokraaminen ulkopuolisille esimerkiksi kokouskäyttöön. Kuulemme mielellämme mahdollisten käyttäjäryhmien tarpeita jo tässä vaiheessa, linjaa Tuomikoski.
Rakentamisen aloitus riippuu kaavoituksesta, mutta tavoitteena on päästä pyörähtelemään parketilla vappuna 2007. Pinta-alaa rakennuksessa tulee olemaan 3 000 neliötä ja tanssimaan mahtuu 2 000 henkeä.
Niskankoski Oy:n taustalla on pääkaupunkiseudulla toimiva sijoittajaryhmä.
Koko kulttuurikeskittymän
on määrä olla valmis vuonna 2014, jolloin Heureka viettää 25-vuotisjuhliaan. Siihen mennessä kaupungin omistamalle noin 4,5 hehtaarin alueelle on tarkoitus tulla tanssitalon ja hotellin lisäksi Heurekan laajennus, Helsingin yliopiston Palmenian Vantaan yksikkö, elävän kuvan museo, Ilmailumuseon näyttely ja Tietotekniikan museo.
Heurekan laajentumiseen liittyvät muun muassa tiedelaboratoriot.
- Tiedelaboratorioiden toimintaedellytyksiä ja -tapoja täsmentämään on asetettu Heurekan tiedeopetuksen neuvottelukunta, jossa on mukana opetusalan eri laitosten päättäjiä, kertoo Heurekan tulevaisuusjohtaja Jouko Koskinen.
Vapaata, nimeämätöntä toimitilaa kulttuurikeskittymässä on vielä noin 13 000 kerrosneliötä.
- Odotan, että niistä tulee hyvääkin kysyntää. Ympäristöstä tulee ainutlaatuinen ja sopiva monelle kansainväliselle korkean teknologian yritykselle, luottaa Koskinen.
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Sorry for the text being only in Finnish. However the construction is supposed to start in 2006 with at least the dance hall and the hotel. The whole thing is estimated to be redy in 2014
Ober,
I'm not gone, just a been a bit inactive for the past weeks due to studies and the whole christmas/new year "thing". :cheers:
Insane alex January 18th, 2005, 06:46 PM Wow! Finland is booming! :)
Gatis January 20th, 2005, 12:04 AM Ohohohoo. These midrises with tree inside - they look really fine! (Would be immensely happy if a bunch of these would "come" to Latvia)
And cultural centre - it is so large that I just do not see it (too close to monitor) :) I like its use - not stupid super-pooper markets and casinos.
K-P February 2nd, 2005, 11:21 PM Any news from Tampere recently?
Radisson SAS?
Fenix Sirius?
Anyone here with inside news & updates?
Been too long without any information of progress,
at least two weeks or so... :)
Oberleutnant February 2nd, 2005, 11:51 PM Radisson SAS - the delay caused by the complaints has made SOK to review the project. Its fate will be decided in the spring or summer.
Fenix Sirius - probably delayed to 2007
Additional 5 floors to Hotel Ilves - unknown
Qualtagh February 3rd, 2005, 01:40 AM 2.2.05. - City of Helsinki will get some new pieces of land in Töölönlahti (Töölö bay) area. The area is opposite (well, near) Finlandia hall in a part of railway yard that has no use in the future. What makes this interesting, are the plans, or dreams, to build the main library of downtown Helsinki on the site. Whether the libary will be built or not, the city will surely build something there.
I've also read that there's an utopistic plan to reorganize the centre of Seinäjoki...
JR, your website rocks. :okay:
tournesol February 3rd, 2005, 09:46 AM Wow, I really like those tree white mid-rises. A little taller and they would be perfect!
And the cultural centre looks very promissing too. I remember visiting the Heureka next to it. It wasn't exactly small, so this one will be BIG!!! :okay:
designwise February 3rd, 2005, 01:05 PM The cultural centre project sounds amazing !!!! :okay:
It will be this region's biggest cultural centre and by Finnish standards this project is massive and will cost a lot of money.
Oberleutnant February 3rd, 2005, 01:09 PM ^
Meh, it doesn't actually matter if it's the biggest or not. My biggest fear is the feasibility, is it too far from its users? Situated only 15km from the downtown, Tikkurila is pretty much the same thing as Helsinki, but a far better location for the project would be Töölönlahti bay in the downtown core. Sadly, there's just no room for it there.
@ tournesol
I had no idea you'd been here. :)
edit
New picture of the taxi system being planned in Aviapolis, Vantaa
http://www.culminatum.fi/verkkolehti/content_images/logistiikka_1_APGM-automaattitaksi_(2)pieni.jpg
Oberleutnant February 3rd, 2005, 04:17 PM Quick list of semi-interesting infrastructure projects (planned, researched, waiting for approval, under construction) in major Finnish cities
Helsinki
Western metro
Northern metro
South-eastern metro
Tikkurila tram
Espoo lightrail
Helsinki tramline expanding
Aviapolis automated taxi system
Tuusula motorway improvement
Ring Road I improvement
Ring Road II expanding
Ring Road III improvment
Tampere
Light-rail system
Hervanta automated taxi system
Turku
Light-rail system
Any others? These were the ones I can think of the top of my head.
Here are pictures of the "automated taxi" APGM system that has been planned in Hervanta suburb of Tampere
http://www.tut.fi/units/arc/ays/tutkimus/apgm/panora2p.jpg
http://www.tut.fi/units/arc/ays/tutkimus/apgm/kuva3p.jpg
http://www.tut.fi/units/arc/ays/tutkimus/apgm/kuva4p.jpg
ch1le February 3rd, 2005, 04:30 PM that taxi would be so cool :) i wonder how will they know if the passengers had payed?
PC February 3rd, 2005, 08:08 PM According to the plans Vantaa has for the Aviapolis APGM system it would work so that the passanger pays the trip with his cellphone or some other way before the taxi starts to move. I guess the same thing applies for Tampere APGM too.
Abou the cultural center, I don't think the location will be a problem as to my knowledge Heureka hasn't suffered from being located there. Also if the development of Aviapolis, Marjarata (or Kehärätä as they now seem to call it - you forgot this one Ober :) ), Vantaa tram and APGM goes as planned the area will become very attractive.
Þróndeimr February 4th, 2005, 12:15 PM Great cultural center project indeed...:okay:
And the taxi planns is nice, this one (http://www.tut.fi/units/arc/ays/tutkimus/apgm/kuva3p.jpg) reminds me of the car "Think" actually.
Daccis February 5th, 2005, 05:45 PM Turku
Light-rail system
En ole aivan varma asiasta, mutta muistelisin lukeneeni Turun sanomista jokunen viikko sitten että kyseinen projekti olisi vähintäänkin vaikea toteuttaa ja täten ei kovin realistinen.
Lmichigan February 12th, 2007, 03:16 AM A very old thread, I realize, but does anyone know the current status of the Radisson SAS Tampere?
padinghton October 18th, 2008, 01:26 PM I am going to Finland next month and I am really glad to find out this forum. Photos are amazing and I can see before my trip what to expect from Finlands world;-)...it is a liitle bit different where I am livin in, but I am sure I will beloved this country, because of nature and calmy towns:)
Boscorelli October 18th, 2008, 01:49 PM Wow this was indeed an old thread! That's a shame it should be updated!
padinghton October 18th, 2008, 05:54 PM oh yes it suppose to be updated...we will see. I will try to do it, but firstawall I have to go there:)
void0 October 23rd, 2008, 11:21 PM And what's up in Finland?
designwise October 23rd, 2008, 11:42 PM And what's up in Finland?
I'd like to know too... :lol:
padinghton October 24th, 2008, 07:54 AM guys, are you talking to me???? :banana: well. I am going there on the 4th of Noveber for 1 month. I will have there intership on the building construction. well I am a little bit scary but we will see. Hopefully I will do some photos and will share with You guys;-)
greets
void0 October 24th, 2008, 11:13 AM What was a stock market drop in the recent month in Finland?
Whiteeclipse November 21st, 2008, 02:11 AM As Finland Builds Another Nuclear Plant, a Remote City Flourishes
The cafe where Paivi Alanko-Rehelma serves coffee and smoked fish stands practically in the shadow of a sprawling building site on the island of Olkiluoto where Finland is erecting a nuclear power plant, the island’s third, and Finland’s fifth in the last 30 years.
Like many of her neighbors who have grown accustomed to nuclear energy, Ms. Alanko-Rehelma picks no bones with the new reactor. “It’s now safe, it saves nature, it’s cheaper,” she said, pouring a visitor a steaming cup of coffee.
No one is certain when the plant, which has been plagued by construction delays, will be finished. But whenever it does go into operation, the reactor will be a new cog in the works of Finland’s national energy policy, which seeks to diversify the country’s sources of energy and reduce its historical reliance on Russia for cheap electricity.
The plant is also part of a global trend, as nuclear power’s prospects rise amid concerns about the warming effect of carbon dioxide emissions to generate electricity.
The Finns are going first class, building what is called a European Pressurized Reactor, the world’s latest model, which is billed as the safest and most powerful nuclear reactor ever designed. It is the product of a consortium of French and German engineering companies.
It is not as if anyone around this wooded region a three-hour drive northwest of Helsinki is marching in protest, spraying antinuclear graffiti or hampering construction work. To the contrary, the construction of the power plant is producing a modest economic boom.
Take this port city of pastel-colored wooden homes about 10 miles south of Olkiluoto. The nearly 4,000 migrant laborers from more than 30 countries, including Poland and Estonia, working at the new power plant have lifted business in stores in downtown Rauma and made possible the opening last year of two new shopping malls on the edge of town.
Local building contractors have been buoyed by orders to carry out some of the reactor work. Moreover, taxes paid by the migrant workers and French and German engineers who have come to the city bring in more than $2.5 million a year.
“A journalist called recently from Helsinki to ask how much longer we can delay completion of the reactor,” Jaakko Hirvonsalo, managing director of the local chamber of commerce, said with a laugh. “Locally, we’re doing well.”
The delays, however, were no joke; parts of the huge reactor shield, now about 90 feet high, had to be dismantled and rebuilt because of faulty welding and poor cement work. The Finns blame the delays on the French reactor builder, Areva, which subcontracted work to Polish companies to cut costs.
The French and their German partners blame the Finns for the delays, pointing to the glacial pace of construction reviews by the Finnish nuclear safety authority. Wherever the blame truly lies, the reactor’s start-up date has been pushed back by at least two years, to 2011, and the estimated cost increased to nearly $6 billion from an original $3.8 billion.
Now, the French are seeking the help of a Swedish arbitrator to settle their differences with the Finns. As for the delay, “It’s not a race,” said Jacques-Emmanuel Saulnier, a spokesman for Areva in Paris. “Don’t forget, it will operate for 60 years.”
Yet he acknowledged that, in some ways, Olkiluoto was a test, since it was the first attempt to build a pressurized water reactor. “It’s the first of its kind,” he said. “You cannot go into a hangar and make a model to test. And yet you have to have a test.”
Beneath the surface, people in Rauma are weighing the costs and benefits. And not all are happy with the result.
“As long as everything is O.K., it’s O.K., but there are problems and risks,” said Janne Koski, director of the city’s art museum, which sponsors regular exhibitions of art from the Baltic region. Asked whether people ignored the risks because of the benefits, he replied: “That is not exactly so. Of course, many people are working there, at the reactor site. It’s about economy and finance.”
Not that Rauma is in dire need of economic stimulus. The city has a thriving shipbuilding industry and paper mills, and several large wood processing companies, a Finnish specialty, have factories here. Large foreign investments have been attracted in recent years from South Korea and Australia.
Rauma has never had an accident like that at Chernobyl, almost 900 miles to the southeast in Northern Ukraine, but even people who are most comfortable with nuclear reactors acknowledge that they affect the environment.
Ms. Alanko-Rehelma, whose husband operates two fishing boats in the waters around the reactors, said that their cooling systems warm the water near Olkiluoto island.
“That is not good for some kinds of fish,” she said. “But good for others, like trout.”
The only large-scale resistance to nuclear energy in Finland comes from Greenpeace, which cites the hazard of radioactivity and the siphoning of money from investment in alternative carbon-free energy sources, like wind, sun and tides.
“It’s far too risky and hazardous,” Lauri Myllyvirta, a spokesman for Greenpeace, said by phone from Helsinki.
The United Nations lists Rauma as a World Heritage site because of its large stock of charming 17th- and 18th-century wooden homes. The World Heritage designation is meant to help preserve historic sites, though income from tourism remains meager, Mr. Miettinen said.
“It’s mostly Finns, and some from Germany and Italy,” he said. But he did not think it was the cluster of nuclear power plants that was keeping people away. “A great many people think nuclear energy is good for Rauma and its industry,” he said.
The first nuclear reactors at Olkiluoto are now about 30 years old, said Pasi Katajamaki, editor of the local newspaper, Lansi Suomi. “We’re very used to it,” he said. ‘’When you have something near you, you simply grow accustomed to it.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/world/europe/16finland.html?ref=europe
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/11/16/world/16finland-graf01-190.jpg
padinghton November 21st, 2008, 07:37 AM Hi I am working there:) I am as Quality Manager and I am not afraid of the nuclear boom^^
Joka November 21st, 2008, 11:35 AM In Olkiluoto? What's up with the delays?
satama November 21st, 2008, 12:42 PM I've always thought Olkiluoto was in Helsinki. :laugh: ..remote city flourishes
Whiteeclipse November 21st, 2008, 06:37 PM Hi I am working there:) I am as Quality Manager and I am not afraid of the nuclear boom^^
Sounds good, so what can you tell us about that city.........is it boring?
padinghton November 22nd, 2008, 05:38 PM WELL i AM working in Olcouito but my hotel is in Rauma. I am not long here, I can say-> Iam NEW. but my first thoughts is that Rauma is really small city but has own specific landscapes and schapes. I do like it but I prefer to live in bigger city with more exlusive shops and supermarkets like is in my hometown or like London or New York.living here is a little bit different but not so bad at all. later will trz to upload some pixes.
about Nuclear Island+Olcouito. well it is NOT allowed to make any pixes so thats why I cannt do it. mz feelings about the job there is I like it because is really clean and all H&S issue is restricted. with no dust no dirt on the floor etc. just very good example for differerent constrution work at my hometown and not only. we have to a lot of learn how to be safe. just enjoy my living here for a WHILE;-)
btw TODAY IN rAUMA WE HAVE HAD the real Santa Claus from Rovaniemi -Lapin. was so funny and excited for me. took some pixes of course^^
Whiteeclipse November 24th, 2008, 06:48 AM Thanks for the feedback, I also enjoy bigger cities for the same reason.
padinghton November 30th, 2008, 06:19 PM Thanks for the feedback, I also enjoy bigger cities for the same reason.
ha, you see. I am very excited because next weekend I will be at home and will spend on the christma sshopping. BTW
I did open new threat about Rauma in Finland. You are very welcome, guys
I will try step by step uploads some new pixes, just take a look;-)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=758958
Red aRRow December 18th, 2008, 01:01 PM Ok I had no idea that VR was planning on replacing the old crappy trains running on the Helsinki-Kauniainen-Espoo lines. Apparently the cities of Helsinki, Espoo and Vantaa made a new company called Junakalusto which bought new SM-5 (FLIRT) models from Stadler Rail in Switzerland.
Trains are going to start in autumn of 2009.
http://www.hbl.fi/text/helsingfors/2008/12/17/w21317.php
http://www.junakalusto.fi/Sm5kuvat.pdf
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kt10208/Development/j_b30712.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kt10208/Development/j_b30713.png
Moolio December 19th, 2008, 01:34 PM thanks for upping the photos here too, red arrow. good-looking trains.
Rebasepoiss December 19th, 2008, 01:49 PM Jep, the train looks good, but it doesn't have the advantage the sm4 has, which is running 2 car trains during non-peak time.
Moolio December 19th, 2008, 01:55 PM Jep, the train looks good, but it doesn't have the advantage the sm4 has, which is running 2 car trains during non-peak time.
Doesn't really matter. I understand these FLIRTs will only serve between Leppävaara and Helsinki and later at Circle-line - both of which will be crowded at any time of the day.
Red aRRow December 21st, 2008, 12:23 PM Doesn't really matter. I understand these FLIRTs will only serve between Leppävaara and Helsinki and later at Circle-line - both of which will be crowded at any time of the day.
Hmmm that's quite strange. We already have SM4s running between Helsinki and Leppävaara..why replace them? What needs replacement are the trains running in the Helsinki-Kauniainen-Espoo train lines (lines S,U,L and E) which are from the old stock.
sapmi January 3rd, 2009, 04:38 PM Any news about the new Helsinki music center? Has the construction started yet?
Kevlargeist January 3rd, 2009, 05:16 PM Yes. The actual construction works began in September and the foundation stone was laid in October. If everything goes well the building will be completed in spring 2011.
Looks like this now
http://www4.hs.fi/kaupunki/makasiinit/kuvat/web/current.jpg?1230999367
sapmi January 3rd, 2009, 07:22 PM Ok, great! Thanks for the update! ^^
padinghton January 3rd, 2009, 07:47 PM I have some question about Finland but not SSC.
so a small OT, sorry
is any homepage about auctions something like ebay but finnish one? and where can I find an official web where is list of the concerts events in Finland?
In advance, thank You for the answer
Kevlargeist January 3rd, 2009, 09:31 PM http://www.huuto.net/ is the biggest Finnish online auction site.
And information on concerts you can find on http://www.lippupalvelu.fi/ :)
padinghton January 3rd, 2009, 09:47 PM thank You so much. it helps me so much, cheers and beer 4 you:cheers:
void0 January 4th, 2009, 11:48 AM Doesn't really matter. I understand these FLIRTs will only serve between Leppävaara and Helsinki Will they go to Espoon keskus?
Red aRRow January 4th, 2009, 06:34 PM Will they go to Espoon keskus?
I think they will. SM4s are already running between Helsinki-Leppävaara.
Moolio January 6th, 2009, 02:40 PM I think they will. SM4s are already running between Helsinki-Leppävaara.
hmm. might be that they use both FLIRTs and sm4s, or that sm4s are relocated to service the lines that are currently serviced by the old ugly ones.
of course there's also the chance that i simply remember wrong. :P
satama October 28th, 2009, 10:12 AM Rantakartano Master Plan, Lahti | K2S Architects Ltd
Renderings from 2009 & 2007. Has been approved by the city council but is in Kouvola court because of 6 appeals.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/tomihermes/0901-rantakartano-25.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/tomihermes/1303_3_1000-K2S-Rantakartano-3.jpg
satama October 28th, 2009, 10:48 AM Teknologiakeskus, Jyväskylä | SARC architects Ltd | Technopolis Ltd
Rendering from 2007. Estimated cost in 2007 was between €80-100 million.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/tomihermes/Untitled-1-43.jpg
Tin_Can October 28th, 2009, 11:08 AM ^^so... what's the project status now? finished,canceled,under construction?
From that render it looks to be quite interesting design...
Moolio October 28th, 2009, 05:14 PM ^^so... what's the project status now? finished,canceled,under construction?
From that render it looks to be quite interesting design...
It'll be built in many parts, the first of which is planned to start in 2010 if my memory serves.
Þróndeimr November 3rd, 2009, 09:19 PM Just some renderings i found on a Norwegian architect company website (LinkSignatur (http://www.link-signatur.no/)). It sais they won the first price for Espoo Cultural Centre. Can anyone confirm this?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/EspooKultursenter3small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/EspooKultursenter1small.jpg
Þróndeimr November 3rd, 2009, 09:28 PM Also, same architect, 1st price for a 50 000sqm masterplan competition, Espoo Centrum.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/EspooCentrum2small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/EspooCentrum1small.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/EspooCentrum3small.jpg
Moolio November 4th, 2009, 01:44 PM http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/EspooKultursenter3small.jpg
I've seen this picture before, and they are refurbishing the area, so I can almost-confirm it.
void0 December 25th, 2009, 02:36 PM Also, same architect, 1st price for a 50 000sqm masterplan competition, Espoo Centrum.
Any details of this?
This area in Espoon Keskus requires simething to attract more customers there. A new shopoing center was build there recently, but it is half empty.
manrush December 29th, 2009, 08:55 AM Any details of this?
This area in Espoon Keskus requires simething to attract more customers there. A new shopoing center was build there recently, but it is half empty.
So, are most of the skyscrapers built in Greater Helsinki going to be limited to Espoo?
I swear, that city is becoming the Finnish version of New Songdo.
void0 December 29th, 2009, 09:50 AM So, are most of the skyscrapers built in Greater Helsinki going to be limited to Espoo?
I swear, that city is becoming the Finnish version of New Songdo.
I doubt that there is something that can be considered as real skyscraper in Helsinki area. There is high-rise cluster in South-East corner of Espoo where Nokia headquarters are, there several single highrises in Espoo also. Eastern Helsinki is also perspective area for high rise construction.
Levin January 4th, 2010, 11:59 AM I doubt that there is something that can be considered as real skyscraper in Helsinki area. There is high-rise cluster in South-East corner of Espoo where Nokia headquarters are, there several single highrises in Espoo also. Eastern Helsinki is also perspective area for high rise construction.
Yeah you are right..Are there any real skyscrapers (above 150m) in the Nordic and Baltic area expect from TT in Malmö??
By the way howe high is the current tallest building in St: Petersburg??:)
void0 January 4th, 2010, 07:01 PM By the way howe high is the current tallest building in St: Petersburg??:)
Actually, I don't know :), but there are no real skyscrapers in St.Petersburg. The most challenging one currently under construction 400m Okhta center,
http://www.ohta-center.ru/en/
Levin January 5th, 2010, 10:39 AM Actually, I don't know :), but there are no real skyscrapers in St.Petersburg. The most challenging one currently under construction 400m Okhta center,
http://www.ohta-center.ru/en/
Thank you! Nice project! I hope the finns find som inspiration from Okhta center. Helsinki need some taller buildings immediately!
satama January 9th, 2010, 06:08 PM Maakunta-arkisto (Province Archive) was opened 12.8.2009 in Hämeenlinna
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/tomihermes/Maakunta-arkisto-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/tomihermes/Pihanpuolen-julkisivu.jpg
Boscorelli January 27th, 2010, 01:48 AM Algots varv Åland development plan
Sorry if this has been posted before!
A project on Mariehamn and Åland, under work then arcjitecture:
http://www.sandellsandberg.se/
Tin_Can January 27th, 2010, 04:33 PM Hämeenlinna archive reminds me Tallinn's Technical University library. It has similar mesh cover.
Rebasepoiss January 27th, 2010, 07:55 PM Hämeenlinna archive reminds me Tallinn's Technical University library. It has similar mesh cover.
To be more precise, it's fabrics on Tallinn University of Technology library
Tin_Can June 20th, 2010, 06:08 AM Turku,Aurajoki pavilion competition. Floating river pavilion should be finished by 2011 (remember European Culture Capitals 2011 - Turku & Tallinn ;))
First,Estonian entry by Armin Valter (didn't win)
http://i49.tinypic.com/o5c0id.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/zvcumf.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/2nnnkm.jpg
...and winning entry "Orko" by Austrians T.Tarnai,P.Jellitsch & C.Tonko and Finnish Aino Korvensyrjä. Interesting fact - Austrian designed pavilion will also purify river water :)
http://i45.tinypic.com/2v0foua.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/ohnvhe.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/27ytis9.jpg
Competition itself had 178 entries from over 10 countries.
taevore November 3rd, 2010, 02:04 PM Tampereen keskusareena - Tampere Central Arena: (http://www.tampereenkeskusareena.fi/en/)
http://www.tampereenkeskusareena.fi/files/63/Aerial_1280.jpg
http://www.tampereenkeskusareena.fi/files/64/Arena_1280.jpg
http://www.tampereenkeskusareena.fi/files/65/Church_1280.jpg
http://www.tampereenkeskusareena.fi/files/66/textsize/Plaza_1280.jpg
Ingenioren November 3rd, 2010, 02:15 PM At first glance i tought it was a redesign of Pasila, but this is another amazing project for Finland. Libeskind is just pure awesome! :drool:
Tin_Can November 3rd, 2010, 02:55 PM Wow,now that's a sexy project! :drool: Those highrises are awesome and arena is cool too :)
It does mention though that arena should be completed by 2013...are there any proposed deadlines for that highrise quarter?
Moolio November 3rd, 2010, 04:41 PM haha if that happens i'll eat my butt.
Mr Bricks November 3rd, 2010, 08:25 PM That is cool! If those are built there will finally be a reason to visit Tampere.
darkmage7280 November 3rd, 2010, 10:12 PM haha if that happens i'll eat my butt.
If that happens I'll indulge in a 24h Chris Rock marathon, and THEN eat my butt.
taevore November 4th, 2010, 05:05 AM haha if that happens i'll eat my butt.
If that happens I'll indulge in a 24h Chris Rock marathon, and THEN eat my butt.
So.. how do you two define "that happens"? I'm willing to bet one "jallupullo" that the construction for the Central Arena will start very soon(within a year) and that it'll be the very same gorgeous design by Liebkind as in this proposal. I'm also willing to bet another bottle of Jallu (mmm) that the highrise cluster will happen -- although it'll be more modest than the proposal (think cirrus).
darkmage7280 November 4th, 2010, 06:13 AM So.. how do you two define "that happens"? ...... I'm also willing to bet another bottle of Jallu (mmm) that the highrise cluster will happen -- although it'll be more modest than the proposal (think cirrus).
I meant the cluster. The arena might happen.
As for the bottle, YOU'RE ON!
http://www.smileyshut.com/smileys/new/Others/handshake-147.GIF
taevore November 5th, 2010, 02:59 PM Great! Let's get back to this in 5 years.
Levin November 7th, 2010, 04:39 PM Great! Let's get back to this in 5 years.
Nice proposal for Tampere...but have they ever built anyone of the highrise-projects in Finland presented on this forum?
Ingenioren November 7th, 2010, 06:58 PM ^^
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n260/Janne_H_2006/lepuskiskyline.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2391/2146964463_d3ab6cc2fb_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4907854505_397c2a503c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timo_w2s/4907854505/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Levin November 8th, 2010, 05:09 PM ^^
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4907854505_397c2a503c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timo_w2s/4907854505/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Ok so it's three projects built of so many..not a good record so far! I hope they start to built the proposals instead of left them on paper...
Janne_H November 8th, 2010, 09:36 PM Ok so it's three projects built of so many..not a good record so far! I hope they start to built the proposals instead of left them on paper...
All high-rises in last ten years.
Cirrus 86m 26fl
Panorama Tower 76m 17fl
Kone Building 73m 18fl
SysOpen Tower 70m 18fl
Leppävaaran Torni 70m 21fl
Meritorni 70m 22fl
Itämerentori 66m 18fl
Micro Tower 65m 14fl
PortGate 62m 13fl
Innova 59m 15fl
Reimantorni 58m 18fl
Airistontähti 58m 18fl
Flamingo 55m 13fl
Horisontti 51m 15fl
Kielotorni 50m 16fl
Joensuun Tähtitorni 49m 14fl
Espankulma 45m 13fl
Under construction right now
Sellonhuippu 61m 17fl
Matrix 55m 16fl
TYS Ikituuri 42m 12fl
Approved
Keilaranta Tower 111m 26fl
Helsinki Fair Centre Hotel 100m 27fl
Avia Tower 75m 21fl
Marriott Hotel Westend 71m 18fl
Fortum ll 70m 16fl
Levin November 9th, 2010, 05:46 PM All high-rises in last ten years.
Cirrus 86m 26fl
Panorama Tower 76m 17fl
Kone Building 73m 18fl
SysOpen Tower 70m 18fl
Leppävaaran Torni 70m 21fl
Meritorni 70m 22fl
Itämerentori 66m 18fl
Micro Tower 65m 14fl
PortGate 62m 13fl
Innova 59m 15fl
Reimantorni 58m 18fl
Airistontähti 58m 18fl
Flamingo 55m 13fl
Horisontti 51m 15fl
Kielotorni 50m 16fl
Joensuun Tähtitorni 49m 14fl
Espankulma 45m 13fl
Under construction right now
Sellonhuippu 61m 17fl
Matrix 55m 16fl
TYS Ikituuri 42m 12fl
Approved
Keilaranta Tower 111m 26fl
Helsinki Fair Centre Hotel 100m 27fl
Avia Tower 75m 21fl
Marriott Hotel Westend 71m 18fl
Fortum ll 70m 16fl
oh thanks for the update!:) But I still think that the best projects still have to leave the drawingboard...fine list of approvals you have here. Then they start to build Keilaranta tower?
satama January 26th, 2011, 12:50 PM Arola, Turku
http://hartela.emediabase.com/ImageServer/ShowImage?width=605&height=385&type=O&name=12369
http://hartela.emediabase.com/ImageServer/ShowImage?width=605&height=385&type=O&name=12532
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/tomihermes/e0e24b3f.jpg
http://hartela.emediabase.com/ImageServer/ShowImage?width=605&height=385&type=O&name=12648
http://hartela.emediabase.com/ImageServer/ShowImage?width=605&height=385&type=O&name=12373
http://hartela.emediabase.com/ImageServer/ShowImage?width=605&height=385&type=O&name=12743
http://hartela.emediabase.com/ImageServer/ShowImage?width=605&height=385&type=O&name=12372
Smedju January 26th, 2011, 05:20 PM ^^
I like it.
Jarmo K January 31st, 2011, 12:01 PM ^ who are the arola project architects?
ch1le January 31st, 2011, 12:37 PM ^ who are the arola project architects?
your thinking what im thinking? or rather, am I thinking what your thinking
Hint hint hint roof.
but its not.
The first image has something written in the lower right corner: maybe K2S oy?
Jarmo K January 31st, 2011, 01:41 PM haha spot on! though i actually didn't think he might be behind this (:
satama February 1st, 2011, 03:42 AM TYS Ikituuri in Turku should be finished by spring, the facade is almost ready.
http://www.sigge.fi/images/500px_TYS-torni-1.jpg
The progress can be followed in Talo in the following thread;
http://taloforum.fi/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=480&start=255
Moolio February 17th, 2011, 02:38 PM Here's a couple of renders from the Tampere hotel that now celebrates it's 8th year of having-not-been-constructed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Moolio/tampere2.jpg
And the hotel with Daniel Libeskind's plans in the mix:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Moolio/tampere.jpg
Tin_Can February 17th, 2011, 02:49 PM TYS Ikituuri in Turku should be finished by spring, the facade is almost ready.
http://www.sigge.fi/images/500px_TYS-torni-1.jpg
The progress can be followed in Talo in the following thread;
http://taloforum.fi/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=480&start=255
I like it! :okay: This building would really deserve to have it's own thread here,on SSC.... :(
satama February 17th, 2011, 05:21 PM http://www.sci.fi/~olvari/tower/tower2.jpg
http://www.sci.fi/~olvari/tower/tower7.jpg
http://www.sci.fi/~olvari/tower/tower8.jpg
Urbanisaatio April 28th, 2011, 10:17 PM TYS Ikituuri in Turku is now finished:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_dSKyDV07xK4/TbcsaPlPLoI/AAAAAAAABKY/afmxGMhr4OM/s800/tys-800.jpg
Source: http://taloforum.fi/viewtopic.php?p=37857#p37857
IMO very nice :cheers:
IceCheese April 28th, 2011, 10:27 PM ^^Nice! Such projects really contribute to our boring Nordic cities.:)
satama August 31st, 2011, 09:47 PM Citykortteli-competition in Lappeenranta has been won by JKMM Architects.
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10064339_87aad816be_o.jpg
These are the buildings they are planning to knock down.
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10064358_1e5a9dce40_o.jpg
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10064354_bd0091843d_o.jpg
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10064352_b2537630a2_o.jpg
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10064353_d511792243_o.jpg
Metal Deploye September 20th, 2011, 02:33 PM Hi , anyone knows something about the project for the Verkkokauppa.com building in Helsinki - Jätkäsaari.
Architect: Helin & Co
Build by Hartela , Steelconstruction by RUUKI
Started this year, cannot find any pictures, should be ready end of this year.
Janne_H September 20th, 2011, 03:05 PM Hi , anyone knows something about the project for the Verkkokauppa.com building in Helsinki - Jätkäsaari.
Architect: Helin & Co
Build by Hartela , Steelconstruction by RUUKI
Started this year, cannot find any pictures, should be ready end of this year.
Some pictures in here http://taloforum.fi/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=657&start=210 (that grey ugly building)
Metal Deploye September 20th, 2011, 04:04 PM Some pictures in here http://taloforum.fi/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=657&start=210 (that grey ugly building)
:)Thanks
Janne_H September 20th, 2011, 04:17 PM :)Thanks
No problem.
Here is a video from the top of the building.
bfpEnN69nEU
Silent soul October 3rd, 2011, 11:13 PM Hi to all! :) Is there any news of construction in Finland? And what is the average number of storeys in Helsinki?
satama October 8th, 2011, 05:44 PM (wrong thread)
Omniway October 24th, 2011, 03:53 PM That's a good question. So, what's about it?http://s01.flagcounter.com/mini/fcPpr/bg_F5F5FF/txt_F5F5FF/border_F5F5FF/flags_0/.jpg
satama December 15th, 2011, 08:24 PM Koutalaki Ski Village
Bjarke Ingels Group has won the first prize in the invited design competition for a 47,000 m2 ski resort and recreational center in Levi.
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10129696_5cea1d2dc8_o.jpg
http://www.archiscene.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Koutalaki-Ski-Village-by-BIG03.jpg
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10129695_56d17474b6_o.jpg
Singidunum December 15th, 2011, 10:55 PM That is very nice and unusual. Most ski resorts try to look like Alpine villages.
satama February 5th, 2012, 12:00 PM Korundi House of Culture, Rovaniemi (Korundi = Corundum (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Korundi.JPG))
The doors were opened in 26.5.2011
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00104/Taiteidentalo-Rovan_104183b.jpg http://www.karihuhtamontaidesaatio.com/collaboration/seminars/relatio-artis/images/korundi-house-of-culture-auditorium.jpg
Tin_Can February 12th, 2012, 05:58 AM JKMM Architects has won design competition of three 12-storey apartment buildings which will be built to Äijälänranta,Jyväskylä. YIT will start construction of first tower in this year and it should be completed by 2014 Housing Fair,held in Jyväskylä.
More project renders: http://www.jkmm.fi/architecture_project.php?project=moai
Winning entry:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2h37tj6.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/10ye8hu.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1phy6x.jpg
Second place (by Arkkitehtipalvelu Oy Jyväskylä)
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00463/Macchu_Pichu___ij_l_463559b.jpg
Third place (by Arkkitehtuuritoimisto Seppo Valjus Oy)
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00463/Worms___ij_l_nranta_463561b.jpg
satama February 12th, 2012, 01:41 PM All the entries can be found from this pdf (http://www2.jkl.fi/kaavakartat/aijalanranta_tornikilpailu/tornikilpailu_arvostelupoytakirja.pdf)
The cheap proposals won basically.
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10159867_8dca3421ee_o.jpg
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10159866_53a78b6d0f_o.jpg
Levin February 12th, 2012, 04:51 PM JKMM Architects has won design competition of three 12-storey apartment buildings which will be built to Äijälänranta,Jyväskylä. YIT will start construction of first tower in this year and it should be completed by 2014 Housing Fair,held in Jyväskylä.
More project renders: http://www.jkmm.fi/architecture_project.php?project=moai
Winning entry:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2h37tj6.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/10ye8hu.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1phy6x.jpg
Second place (by Arkkitehtipalvelu Oy Jyväskylä)
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00463/Macchu_Pichu___ij_l_463559b.jpg
Third place (by Arkkitehtuuritoimisto Seppo Valjus Oy)
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00463/Worms___ij_l_nranta_463561b.jpg
I must say that the winning proposal is the worst! The second proposal the best....
satama February 18th, 2012, 07:57 AM 12-storey hotel extension in Rovaniemi gets green light from the municipal board.
http://www.puroplan.fi/kuvat/uutiset-kuvat/napapiiri-rovaniemi.jpg
Jaakko Puro Oy & Puroplan Oy
(It's still under the design phase.)
Rovaniemen City-hotellin toimitusjohtajalla Mikael Gröhnillä on suunnitelma rakentaa 12-kerroksinen hotelli nykyisen kiinteistön viereen.
Tontilla nyt sijaitsevan pienen betonisen kaupungin parkkihallin paikalle rakennettaisiin uusi korkea hotelli- ja asuinrakennus. Huipulla olisi mahdollisesti näköalaravintola ja kokoustiloja. Hotellihuoneita rakennukseen on tulossa 50-100 riippuen tulevista kaavamääräyksistä. Hotellihuoneiden lisäksi rakennukseen tulee 40-60 asuntoa, vuokrayksiöitä, jotka ovat matkailijavirran lisääntyessä helposti muutettavissa hotellihuoneiksi. Rakennuksen alimpaan kerrokseen sijoittuu kauppahalli juurevien kaupunkimiljöiden tapaan.
– Kauppahallikulttuuri lisää keskustan viehätystä ja sen vetovoimaa, Gröhn uskoo.
Pysäköintitilat rakennetaan maan alle.
Kyse ei ole kuitenkaan vain hotellilaajennuksesta, vaan kokonaan uudenlaisesta visiosta puhaltaa henkeä autioon ja tylsään keskustaan. Tehdä siitä elävä ja haluttava niin paikallisille asukkaille kuin turisteillekin. Visiossa ankea Pekankatu muuttuu kaupunkilaisten olohuoneeksi, bulevardiksi, jossa on kiva kävellä ja pyöräillä. Elämää tihkuvaksi torikaduksi kojuineen. Vihreäksi pikkuesplanadiksi lasiravintolaterasseineen ja esiintymislavoineen.
Gröhnin tavoitteena on päästä rakentamaan ensi kesänä ja saada laajennus valmiiksi joulusesonkiin 2013 tai kevääksi 2014. - Lapin Kansa (http://www.lapinkansa.fi/Lappi/1194697902809/artikkeli/tylsa+keskusta+12-kerroksinen+tornihotelli+rovaniemelle+.html)
Tin_Can February 18th, 2012, 02:59 PM ^^
Current design doesn't look very promising,so I hope that final design looks better.
Btw,how difficult it is to build mid- or highrises in smaller Finnish towns? I'm asking,as here we've had few midrise proposals in small towns too and they've always faced very strong opposition.
satama February 19th, 2012, 05:06 PM Btw,how difficult it is to build mid- or highrises in smaller Finnish towns?
Much easier than back in 2005. All major cities have high rise plans on paper, how many of them will materialize in the coming years is to be seen.
Construction of a 16-storey office in Kuopio begins in March
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Moolio/ktp.jpg
Technopolis Oyj aloittaa maaliskuussa Viestikadun viimeisen kohteen rakennuttamisen. Kolmivaiheisen urakan on saanut Skanska. Jyvän muotoisesta tornitalosta tulee 16-kerroksinen. Kerroksissa se on Kuopion ykkönen, mutta korkeudessa se häviää Microtowerille kolme metriä.
Hanke tuplaa Viestikadun nykyiset neliöt ja nostaa työntekijämäärän 2 000:een.
Hankkeen kokonaiskustannusarvio on noin 40 miljoonaa euroa. Kokonaisala on 25 000 neliötä.
Savon Sanomat (http://www.savonsanomat.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/61-metriseen-rakennukseen-16-kerrosta-kuopioon-nousee-toinen-tornitalon/735507)
satama February 25th, 2012, 08:56 AM Preliminary design for new bike shelters in Lahti. The aim is to have at least one prototype in use by summer. I hope the axe the height a bit (or perhaps those kids are just very short).
http://static.zooomr.com/images/10166835_b88b7fe02c_o.jpg
Smedju February 25th, 2012, 10:39 AM Winning entry:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2h37tj6.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/10ye8hu.jpg
Looks horrible. Points for doing something different but it's fail.
darkmage7280 February 26th, 2012, 09:28 PM I agree, they look terrible.
ch1le February 27th, 2012, 09:41 AM just looks like bad renders. The buildings are fine.
Tin_Can March 1st, 2012, 12:20 AM Arkkitehtityöhuone Artto Palo Rossi Tikka Oy won design competition for Rovaniemi Centre Stadium / Rovaniemen Keskuskenttä upgrading. Their design foresees construction of new tribune and separately standing residential & commercial buildings. Rovaniemi town starts creating construction project based on this design.
Multi-purpose stadium itself was renovated few years ago.
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00473/Railo_havainnekuva__473391b.jpg
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00473/Railo_havainnekuva__473388b.jpg
http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00473/Railo_havainnekuva__473390b.jpg
Source: http://yle.fi/alueet/lappi/2012/02/railo_voitti_keskuskentan_arkkitehtikilpailun_3293059.html
ch1le March 1st, 2012, 03:33 AM son of a! We proposed a similar configuration for Kuressaare...
Its nice.
satama August 31st, 2012, 08:19 PM International casino gets go-ahead in Vaalimaa, close to Russian border
The Board of Finland’s Slot Machine Association (RAY) resolved on Tuesday evening that its new casino, the second in Finland, would be located in the premises of a new shopping centre that is under planning in Vaalimaa, in the municipality of Virolahti, in the southeastern corner of the country.
..
The setting up of a new casino was made possible a year ago, when Finland’s gambling legislation was amended.
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At its new casino, RAY will aim to attract mainly Russian customers.
The branch is strictly regulated even in Russia. Since 2009, casino operations have been allowed only in four special zones, which are located far away from major cities.
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/International+casino+gets+go-ahead+in+Vaalimaa+close+to+Russian+border/1329104707205
Smedju August 31st, 2012, 08:36 PM Vaalimaa is certainly area where you can make lots of money at the moment...especially if you can speak russian. Not surprised at all about that project.
estlander November 27th, 2012, 12:17 AM Guys, whats the current status of that project?
http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/dbsub/366829/2012-11-25/img_1_1353842707_vue-parc.jpg
I just say WOW to the proposal for the 'helsinki central library' by french firm djuric tardio architectes. view from the park.
http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/dbsub/366829/2012-11-25/img_2_1353842707_vue-aerienne.jpg
http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/dbsub/366829/2012-11-25/img_3_1353842707_vue-parc-proche.jpg
and streetview:
http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/dbsub/366829/2012-11-25/img_5_1353842707_vue-rue.jpg
interior:
http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/dbsub/366829/2012-11-25/img_8_1353842707_vue-biblio-etg.jpg
http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/dbsub/366829/2012-11-25/img_9_1353842707_vue-jardin-hiver.jpg
tonttula November 27th, 2012, 01:41 AM It's down to 6 from hundreds of suggestions for the Helsinki City Library. You can see pics of them in here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=97538932&postcount=782).
Above isn't one of the 6 that got through.
Smedju November 27th, 2012, 01:31 PM WTH Helsinki...that French one is the best one!!!
Joka November 27th, 2012, 02:04 PM They all suck. Instead of being concerned with whats best for the visitors of the library (like unique-in-the-world-views-of the archipelago, sea & city. ie. 12-floors or more), the city planners only concern seems to be to leave an architectural mark on the city.
"Look what a cool looking building we approved and you can go there to use multimedia computers! The library of the future!"
Total catastrophe. There will never be a chance to design a public building like this again, and they fucked it up.
Btw, this is how SRV markets Kalasatama:
Kalasatama centre will consist of six residential tower blocks, a hotel and office tower and a commercial centre. The towers will have 20–33 stores, the highest tower reaching 126 metres. The view opens onto city lights on one side and a seascape on the other, forming a breathtaking contrast.
Helsinki city planners go "yeah, maybe that's true, but let's not build a public building where everyone could enjoy that. Absolutely not. Let's pick 6 finalists that are practically identical in terms of the experience offered."
And PPS. There were proposals that had grasped this potential, they just chose to ignore them. Incredible. Incredibly shocking.
tonttula November 27th, 2012, 02:21 PM WTH Helsinki...that French one is the best one!!!
It looks nice, but a functional library it isn't imo.
Like already discussed on the thread i linked i have nothing against those 6 that survived the cut. Actually i'm surprised that such a good suggestions survived.
propel November 27th, 2012, 02:30 PM Hey Estlander, where did u get those pics? Would be nice to have proper pics for all the finalists..
And i agree with Tonttula on the suprisingly high quality of the competition.
frank_hki December 11th, 2012, 10:49 AM Let's stick to libraries: Cool pictures (© Tuomas Uusheimo, JKMM Architects) of the new Seinäjoki Library. The building is situated on the Alvar Aalto's landmark centre, so it's been a spot for very subtle design, and yet they've managed to create something totally new but with Aalto-ish twist. Quite a few pictures coming up:
Area overview, library up-left
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122630.jpg
Few exterior pics
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122636.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122635.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122637.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122648.jpg
And now let's get in
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122645.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122632.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122646.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122638.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122642.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122639.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122631.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122640.jpg
http://www.archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/122644.jpg
One of the coolest buildings ...ever :lol: IMHO
darkmage7280 December 11th, 2012, 11:29 AM :tongue3:
Ah, Captain Aalto, my archenemy... We meet again.
Silent soul December 12th, 2012, 09:11 AM ^^ Wow! Cool desing! So much space and light... The green room with the balls under the ceiling is amazing! I would like to read something there :)
propel December 12th, 2012, 09:46 AM Why the concrete ceiling, looks unfinished? Or am i being uncool to ask such a thing? :\
Silent soul December 12th, 2012, 11:23 AM Why the concrete ceiling, looks unfinished? Or am i being uncool to ask such a thing? :\
I suppose, it's just an element of interior desing. But I've thought that the ceiling was made of wood...
propel December 12th, 2012, 03:12 PM I suppose, it's just an element of interior desing. But I've thought that the ceiling was made of wood...
Oh no, that's not wood in the ceiling. Reminds me of air-raid shelters..:cheers:
Janne_H December 12th, 2012, 03:59 PM I think the concrete ceiling creates cool contrast to the other spaces.
SuomiPrkl!! December 12th, 2012, 05:18 PM I think bare congrete is just buttugly. In 20 years we hate it like we gate 70's commie argitecture now.
I guess many like those road underpasses which are similar concrete showing wood patter from wooden mould? :D
ssh December 12th, 2012, 09:33 PM I think bare congrete is just buttugly.
For exteriors I agree, but it can make for a cool looking interior if used just right.
Silent soul December 12th, 2012, 09:33 PM Oh no, that's not wood in the ceiling. Reminds me of air-raid shelters..:cheers:
Ok :)
I think the concrete ceiling creates cool contrast to the other spaces.
Yeah, I agree. The ceiling in that library's interior makes interesting effect.
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