Imagine those anti nuclear power plant in the philippines, and those who have been criticising the present location of the BNPP? Look, how many years have passed and not a single earthquake have strucked Bataan atleast for the past 30 yrs? If only the Aquinos have allowed the BNP to be reactivated years years ago, the electricity bills there may not be that such a headache today.

The philippines has been wasting their money and time for throwing BNPP in a shelf while still paying for its bills and maintenance without even providing a single megawatt.

Imagine those anti nuclear power plant in the philippines, and those who have been criticising the present location of the BNPP? Look, how many years have passed and not a single earthquake have strucked Bataan atleast for the past 30 yrs? If only the Aquinos have allowed the BNP to be reactivated years years ago, the electricity bills there may not be that such a headache today.

The philippines has been wasting their money and time for throwing BNPP in a shelf while still paying for its bills and maintenance without even providing a single megawatt.

I cannot agree more! Those peddling lies can now eat crows! Still, we inherit those past mistakes. We'll just keep on with the battle against misinformed ideas!

I cannot agree more! Those peddling lies can now eat crows! Still, we inherit those past mistakes. We'll just keep on with the battle against misinformed ideas!

I think its about time Parchie, to seriously reactivate that damn BNPP! After all, its all of you hardworkers filipinos back home taxes paying for this shit. You guys support this idea and your electric bills will dramatically goes down. Otherwise, filipinos will be forever digging deeper at their pockets to payoff their bills!

obsolete na raw mga piyesa noon, kaya di na puede:D

obsolete na raw mga piyesa noon, kaya di na puede:D

Anong piyesa nyan? Relo? Hehehehe.

Ang process ay nandyan na. It's a matter of upgrading the auxiliary equipment and controls! Wari, yung control na electro-mechanical, pwede yan i-upgrade into PLC control at adaptable pa with profi-bus or other faster data acquisition and controls.

Imagine those anti nuclear power plant in the philippines, and those who have been criticising the present location of the BNPP? Look, how many years have passed and not a single earthquake have strucked Bataan atleast for the past 30 yrs? If only the Aquinos have allowed the BNP to be reactivated years years ago, the electricity bills there may not be that such a headache today.

The philippines has been wasting their money and time for throwing BNPP in a shelf while still paying for its bills and maintenance without even providing a single megawatt.

The same was probably imagined regarding Fukushima and others.

The plant had to be checked for safety following various regulations. For example, from 2008:

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2008/bataannpp.html

From what I remember, one news report stated that the rehab cost would be $1 billion. A separate report reveals that given Fukushima, companies will need to provide up to four times the capital equity as bond for emergencies.

With that, the new cost of this plant would probably be the original cost, plus a billion, and probably up to an additional four billion to ensure that safety measures are in place. Maybe this can include disposal and storage costs.

The same was probably imagined regarding Fukushima and others.

The plant had to be checked for safety following various regulations. For example, from 2008:

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2008/bataannpp.html

From what I remember, one news report stated that the rehab cost would be $1 billion. A separate report reveals that given Fukushima, companies will need to provide up to four times the capital equity as bond for emergencies.

With that, the new cost of this plant would probably be the original cost, plus a billion, and probably up to an additional four billion to ensure that safety measures are in place. Maybe this can include disposal and storage costs.
Thank you for the link. I would like to show an important statement of what's inside that link:"The government has to assess what the new licensing requirements should be, how to modernize the two-decades old technology to current standards, and how to confirm that all aspects of the plant will function properly and safely. It is not the IAEA´s role to state whether the plant is usable or not, or how much it will cost to rehabilitate," said Omoto.

If the prime agency regulating the nuclear industry around the world says "It is not the IAEA´s role to state whether the plant is usable or not, or how much it will cost to rehabilitate, please tell me how you or the people you are referring to arrived at "four times" the cost?

Do you know the specific location where in the Philippines is BNPP? How does BNPP similar in any way with those failed Fukushima Daichi units?

FYI, Fukushima Daichi Nuclear power plant and BNPP are two different types of nuclear power plant. To jump into a conclusion that what Fukushima Daichi needs to do to ensure operational safety and has to be done on BNPP also, betray the peoples' understanding or knowledge of what the nuclear power plants' unique details are. Please assume your readers don't know anything of the topic and impress them other posters.

Anong piyesa nyan? Relo? Hehehehe.

Ang process ay nandyan na. It's a matter of upgrading the auxiliary equipment and controls! Wari, yung control na electro-mechanical, pwede yan i-upgrade into PLC control at adaptable pa with profi-bus or other faster data acquisition and controls.

286 lang kasi ang CPU noon, tapos meron pang mga vacuum tubes:lol: instead na transistors and diodes:lol:

286 lang kasi ang CPU noon, tapos meron pang mga vacuum tubes:lol: instead na transistors and diodes:lol:

Hahahaha. Naabutan mo yung mga de-tubo? Ako, sa electronics lab na lang nasilip ang mga ganyan! Nakow! Sobrang init ng interface room niyan!

Tsaka, baka EPROM lang ang electronics dun, walang CPU.

Hahahaha. Naabutan mo yung mga de-tubo? Ako, sa electronics lab na lang nasilip ang mga ganyan! Nakow! Sobrang init ng interface room niyan!

Tsaka, baka EPROM lang ang electronics dun, walang CPU.

hindi namn pero yung mga gamit kasi ng dad ko andun pa, vacuum tubes atbp, ginawa kong laruan:lol:

At present time, part of BNPP has turned into a tourist attraction after the government have decided not to spend a $1 Billion to reactivate it.

I say use part of the RP's FX reserve from $77Billion to reactivate it.

Maybe we should opt for the more agile backyard nuclear reactors instead. They can generate 25MW of electricity and cost around $25 Million. They are much safer to operate compared to conventional reactors. The amount of uranium is also so small that a chance for a nuclear meltdown is virtually zero. The company claims it can build a plant that can operate for 10 years without refuelling and the spent fuel after 5 years is about the size of a softball. Here's some more details;

http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/

http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=906

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelkanellos/2011/10/13/mini-nukes-back-from-grave-as-fluor-invests-in-nuscale-power/

^^ interesting. Looks promising. But again, safety is very much concerned regarding the handling of any nuclear material and this technology is still in its infancy.

Maybe we should opt for the more agile backyard nuclear reactors instead. They can generate 25MW of electricity and cost around $25 Million. They are much safer to operate compared to conventional reactors. The amount of uranium is also so small that a chance for a nuclear meltdown is virtually zero. The company claims it can build a plant that can operate for 10 years without refuelling and the spent fuel after 5 years is about the size of a softball. Here's some more details;

http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/

http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=906

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelkanellos/2011/10/13/mini-nukes-back-from-grave-as-fluor-invests-in-nuscale-power/

These technologies are very promising and practical, it's like a backyard nuke plant, 25MW is enough for small province or city, but where to discard those baseball-sized nuke waste? inside sealed stainless-steel drums deposit into the Philippine deep??? or perhaps dropped into the mouth of one of our volcanoes???

These technologies are very promising and practical, it's like a backyard nuke plant, 25MW is enough for small province or city, but where to discard those baseball-sized nuke waste? inside sealed stainless-steel drums deposit into the Philippine deep??? or perhaps dropped into the mouth of one of our volcanoes???

Yep. 25MW could power 20,000 households 24/7! With current regs of limiting nuke fuels to be no more than 5%, it is more likely that spent fuel rods will be needing recycling to make use of unused fissile material in those rods. IDK if the regulators have liberalized recycling as there is a fear of rogue countries trying to go beyond civilian use of those Uranium fuel rods and to concentrate spent rods into the military grade intended for atomic bombs.

If all those spent fuel rods are just stocked, there is danger that these stockplies can become disaster hazards like what happened in Fukushima when the cooling pools got damaged during the earthquake. I guess there will be solutions being thought about like feeding those spent fuels down a very deep drilled hole very near the lowest subduction layer on earth (Russia dug a 12.3 kilometer hole in Kola).

700-MW of wind projects get nod
The Energy Department approved over 700 megawatts of wind projects last year, boosting the country’s efforts toward energy independence, government data showed over the weekend.

The department cleared the application of CoastalPower Development Corp.’s Prieto-Diaz wind power project in Sorsogon province, which has a capacity to generate 420 MW of power, the biggest approved to date.

The department also gave the greenlight to CoastalPower’s 100-MW Mercedes wind power project in Camarines Norte.

Approved contracts include those of Energy Logics Philippines’ 100-MW North Pasuquin wind power project in Pasuquin-Burgos, Ilocos Norte, and 112-MW Mt. Redondo wind power project in Zambales.

The others are Philippine Hybrid Energy Systems Inc.’s 15-MW Puerto Galera wind project, PhilCarbon Inc.’s in Sagada and Bulalacao and Pan Energy Corp.’s Redondo wind power project.

Wind developers are waiting for the release of the feed-in tariff that will guarantee them a fixed rate over a 20-year period. The feed-in tariff is undergoing hearings at the Energy Regulatory Commission.

Wind developers, who are members of the Wind Energy Development Association of the Philippines, are also in talks with National Grid Corporation of the Philippines for the construction of transmission lines that will support the development of their projects.

National Grid has proposed a new transmission project, called the Northern Luzon 230-kV Looping project, that will serve the needs of wind projects in the north.

“This project aims to loop the north-western and north-eastern 230 kV backbone in Luzon in order to provide adequate transmission facilities in catering to the huge wind power generation potential in the region and at the same time improve the overall reliability of the transmission network,” National Grid said in its draft Transmission Development Plan 2011-2020.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusiness.htm?f=//2012/february/13/business4.isx&d=/2012/february/13

the govt should look into other sources of ren. Energy..like solar and Tidal/Marine energy. the first one in europe i think will be completed this year.

If the prime agency regulating the nuclear industry around the world says "It is not the IAEA´s role to state whether the plant is usable or not, or how much it will cost to rehabilitate, please tell me how you or the people you are referring to arrived at "four times" the cost?



The rehabilitation cost was given by KEPCO:

"Kepco to take part in study on nuclear energy for Phl"

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=645554&publicationSubCategoryId=66

I cannot remember who argued that the bond to be set aside should be four times the equity, but it has to do with the amount of compensation claims stemming from what happened in Fukushima:

"Amid Tweeted Frustration, Japan May Take Control of TEPCO"

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2062591,00.html

Of course, it's possible that such a requirement will not take place in PH.



Do you know the specific location where in the Philippines is BNPP? How does BNPP similar in any way with those failed Fukushima Daichi units?



Problems concerning the location of the BNPP was addressed in various studies, several of which are mentioned here:

"The geological hazards of the Bataan Nuclear Power Plant"

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=443497&publicationSubCategoryId=75

and challenged by one recent presentation that showed that the area is safe.

The problem is that geological hazards are not our only concerns, and if the BNPP has to be seen in light of Fukushima, it should be done in terms not of that or of the type of plant used (I think the design of the BNPP is similar to that used for Three Mile Island) but operational safety and safety in general (as seen in the preparations and costs involved in Japan in preparation for disasters involving nuclear power plants).



FYI, Fukushima Daichi Nuclear power plant and BNPP are two different types of nuclear power plant. To jump into a conclusion that what Fukushima Daichi needs to do to ensure operational safety and has to be done on BNPP also, betray the peoples' understanding or knowledge of what the nuclear power plants' unique details are. Please assume your readers don't know anything of the topic and impress them other posters.

The comparison should be made not in terms of the type of power plant used or location but preparations for safety and feasibility. With that, we should consider, as I pointed out, the $2.3 billion or so for the loans, the additional billion for rehabilitation, funds set aside for waste disposal, securing water sources, and upgrading national health care and security to a level many times higher than what is available. It's difficult to ascertain the costs for the last point, so I decided to look at the compensation costs that were involved in Fukushima and use that as the high end.

I forgot to add that one PH company did look at the cost of operation nuclear power plants in the country:

"Aboitiz Power won't go into nuclear energy"

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=657161&publicationSubCategoryId=

Just as a reference , here's a list of the biggest power plants in the world according to type (sourced from Wikipedia so the usual disclaimers apply):

Coal: Taichung Power Plant, Taiwan 5,780MW

Fuel Oil: Surgut-2 Power Station, Russia, 5,600MW

Natural Gas: Futtsu Power Station, Japan, 5,040MW

Nuclear: Kashiwazaki-Kariwa NPP, Japan, 8,212MW

Oil Shale: Eesti Power Station, Estonia, 1,615MW

Peat: Shatura Power Station, Russia, 1,020MW

Biofuel: Alholmens Kraft Power Station, Finland 265MW

Geothermal: Malitbog Geothermal Power Station, Philippines, 233MW

Hydroelectric:
(conventional) Three Gorges Dam, China, 22,500MW

(pumped storage): Bath County Pumped Storage Station, USA, 2,772MW

(run of river): Chief Joseph Dam, USA, 2,620MW

Solar:
(Flat-panel photovoltaic) Huanghe Hydropower Golmud Solar Park, China, 200MW

(Concentrated photovoltaic) Casaquemada Photovoltaic Power Plant, Spain, 1.9MW

(Concentrated solar thermal) SEGS VIII, IX, USA, 160MW

Tidal: Sihwa Lake Tidal Power Station, South Korea, 254MW

Wave: Aguçadoura Wave Farm, Portugal, 2.25MW

Wind: Roscoe Wind Farm, USA, 782MW

Note: Three Gorges Dam in China is also the world's largest power station of any type.

Maybe we should opt for the more agile backyard nuclear reactors instead. They can generate 25MW of electricity and cost around $25 Million. They are much safer to operate compared to conventional reactors. The amount of uranium is also so small that a chance for a nuclear meltdown is virtually zero. The company claims it can build a plant that can operate for 10 years without refuelling and the spent fuel after 5 years is about the size of a softball. Here's some more details;

http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/

http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=906

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelkanellos/2011/10/13/mini-nukes-back-from-grave-as-fluor-invests-in-nuscale-power/

Yep not a bad idea.

We can also use them for long range warships one day, it will fit for submarines with this reactor! :banana:

Yep not a bad idea.

We can also use them for long range warships one day, it will fit for submarines with this reactor! :banana:

Yep. I know for one that a commercial ship plying the domestic sea lanes is powered by 2 x 5000 hp diesel engines. That's roughly 7.5 MW of drive power! If you have 25MW, that's more than enough to power a bigger ship.

The only problem is how to package those power units such that an untoward accident doesn't develop into a nuclear disaster.

Just as a reference , here's a list of the biggest power plants in the world according to type (sourced from Wikipedia so the usual disclaimers apply):

Coal: Taichung Power Plant, Taiwan 5,780MW

Fuel Oil: Surgut-2 Power Station, Russia, 5,600MW

Natural Gas: Futtsu Power Station, Japan, 5,040MW

Nuclear: Kashiwazaki-Kariwa NPP, Japan, 8,212MW

Oil Shale: Eesti Power Station, Estonia, 1,615MW

Peat: Shatura Power Station, Russia, 1,020MW

Biofuel: Alholmens Kraft Power Station, Finland 265MW

Geothermal: Malitbog Geothermal Power Station, Philippines, 233MW

Hydroelectric:
(conventional) Three Gorges Dam, China, 22,500MW

(pumped storage): Bath County Pumped Storage Station, USA, 2,772MW

(run of river): Chief Joseph Dam, USA, 2,620MW

Solar:
(Flat-panel photovoltaic) Huanghe Hydropower Golmud Solar Park, China, 200MW

(Concentrated photovoltaic) Casaquemada Photovoltaic Power Plant, Spain, 1.9MW

(Concentrated solar thermal) SEGS VIII, IX, USA, 160MW

Tidal: Sihwa Lake Tidal Power Station, South Korea, 254MW

Wave: Aguçadoura Wave Farm, Portugal, 2.25MW

Wind: Roscoe Wind Farm, USA, 782MW

Note: Three Gorges Dam in China is also the world's largest power station of any type.

AFAIK, the biggest single-block coal-fired generation unit is a 750 MW thermal at Kogan Creek Power Station in Queensland, Australia. The biggest single-unit nuclear power generating set will be the 1.7 GW Taishan French-designed unit in China.

Gov't Bats For Product Quality, Reasonable Pricing In Power Program

MANILA, Philippines - With investment rollout of P33 billion over five years, the government will not settle for anything less but to ensure the quality of products and reasonable pricing from equipment suppliers for the country's "sitio" electrification program.

In a recent consultative meeting with suppliers and product manufacturers of equipment and technologies that will be used in these massive electrification projects, Energy Secretary Rene D. Almendras appealed to the stakeholders to ward off "one-time, big-time mentality" when it comes to cornering returns from such initiative.

The next phase of the country's electrification endeavor will delve into Sitio Electrification Program (SEP) which will cover areas within a barangays' enclave; and the Barangay Line Enhancement Program (BLEP). These twin undertakings will be pursued under the supervision of the National Electrification Administration.

"We are talking of a five-year program and a sustainable amount. Think of sustainable revenue rather than one time, big time," the energy chief has told both public and private firms.

Rural electrification has been listed among the flagship programs of the Aquino administration. Through this, the energy secretary is sounding off hope that it can spur economic developments in the countryside - which by far, could be considered a long-neglected policy in the past years.

Continue reading here... (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/govt-bats-product-quality-reasonable-pricing-power-program-183954105.html;_ylt=AiGz8uC3UpL8uJR_yfhb2zvmV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTQxZmJ2NXB0BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBQaGlsaXBwaW5lc1NGBHBrZwM1ZjVjYmVkYy02YzBiLTM0ZjYtODhmNy1iNDI2ZWI2OTIzYjEEcG9zAzE3BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyA2FkZGEyMDEwLTU4ZDQtMTFlMS1iYmZjLWViNzBlZDJlMGNlOA--;_ylg=X3oDMTF2M3NpaDUyBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANwaGlsaXBwaW5lcwRwdANzZWN0aW9ucwR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)

Gov't Bats For Product Quality, Reasonable Pricing In Power Program

MANILA, Philippines - With investment rollout of P33 billion over five years, the government will not settle for anything less but to ensure the quality of products and reasonable pricing from equipment suppliers for the country's "sitio" electrification program.

In a recent consultative meeting with suppliers and product manufacturers of equipment and technologies that will be used in these massive electrification projects, Energy Secretary Rene D. Almendras appealed to the stakeholders to ward off "one-time, big-time mentality" when it comes to cornering returns from such initiative.

The next phase of the country's electrification endeavor will delve into Sitio Electrification Program (SEP) which will cover areas within a barangays' enclave; and the Barangay Line Enhancement Program (BLEP). These twin undertakings will be pursued under the supervision of the National Electrification Administration.

"We are talking of a five-year program and a sustainable amount. Think of sustainable revenue rather than one time, big time," the energy chief has told both public and private firms.

Rural electrification has been listed among the flagship programs of the Aquino administration. Through this, the energy secretary is sounding off hope that it can spur economic developments in the countryside - which by far, could be considered a long-neglected policy in the past years.

Continue reading here... (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/govt-bats-product-quality-reasonable-pricing-power-program-183954105.html;_ylt=AiGz8uC3UpL8uJR_yfhb2zvmV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTQxZmJ2NXB0BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBQaGlsaXBwaW5lc1NGBHBrZwM1ZjVjYmVkYy02YzBiLTM0ZjYtODhmNy1iNDI2ZWI2OTIzYjEEcG9zAzE3BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyA2FkZGEyMDEwLTU4ZDQtMTFlMS1iYmZjLWViNzBlZDJlMGNlOA--;_ylg=X3oDMTF2M3NpaDUyBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANwaGlsaXBwaW5lcwRwdANzZWN0aW9ucwR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3)
Five years? Will these people still be there 5 years from now? How can they craft a program this long and hope to achieve those in less than five years? They say the taste of the pudding is in the eating; meaning, you will taste the fruits of your labor when it's done, not before it's done! And a program or project extended beyond your scope is doomed not likely to be finished!

Five years? Will these people still be there 5 years from now? How can they craft a program this long and hope to achieve those in less than five years? They say the taste of the pudding is in the eating; meaning, you will taste the fruits of your labor when it's done, not before it's done! And a program or project extended beyond your scope is doomed not likely to be finished!

mabilis na nga raw yan:D remember what Dilaw na butiki said?:rofl:

These technologies are very promising and practical, it's like a backyard nuke plant, 25MW is enough for small province or city, but where to discard those baseball-sized nuke waste? inside sealed stainless-steel drums deposit into the Philippine deep??? or perhaps dropped into the mouth of one of our volcanoes???

The Storage/Disposal of Radioactive Waste Produced by Nuclear Power Stations
http://www.technologystudent.com/PDF3/nuclr2.pdf

Standard US Drum Containers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_%28container%29

Softball Dimensions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softball

Allocating space for disposal ought to be determined during the feasibility study to ascertain the proper location that would meet the safety requirements. It's obviously not impossible to find a right location onshore or inland, the bigger challenge lies in the political will to go up against "obstructionists" especially at the local government level. You can do the math if you're interested to know how much waste material and how many plants we need to have just to fill a single container in 5 years. As an extension of your mental exercise, you can also factor in and project into the future whether you'd st ill be alive or 6 feet below the ground by the time we fill one container with waste matter assuming we only built one power plant. Which gives me an idea, maybe a good starting point to do a site survey would be our local cemeteries, I'm sure the residents there would'nt mind sharing space with a radioactive neighbor. But then again, the crypt caretakers and their families might be well connected and seek help from their local politicians. JK :lol:

700-MW of wind projects get nod
The Energy Department approved over 700 megawatts of wind projects last year, boosting the country’s efforts toward energy independence, government data showed over the weekend.

The department cleared the application of CoastalPower Development Corp.’s Prieto-Diaz wind power project in Sorsogon province, which has a capacity to generate 420 MW of power, the biggest approved to date.

The department also gave the greenlight to CoastalPower’s 100-MW Mercedes wind power project in Camarines Norte.

Approved contracts include those of Energy Logics Philippines’ 100-MW North Pasuquin wind power project in Pasuquin-Burgos, Ilocos Norte, and 112-MW Mt. Redondo wind power project in Zambales.

The others are Philippine Hybrid Energy Systems Inc.’s 15-MW Puerto Galera wind project, PhilCarbon Inc.’s in Sagada and Bulalacao and Pan Energy Corp.’s Redondo wind power project.

Wind developers are waiting for the release of the feed-in tariff that will guarantee them a fixed rate over a 20-year period. The feed-in tariff is undergoing hearings at the Energy Regulatory Commission.

Wind developers, who are members of the Wind Energy Development Association of the Philippines, are also in talks with National Grid Corporation of the Philippines for the construction of transmission lines that will support the development of their projects.

National Grid has proposed a new transmission project, called the Northern Luzon 230-kV Looping project, that will serve the needs of wind projects in the north.

“This project aims to loop the north-western and north-eastern 230 kV backbone in Luzon in order to provide adequate transmission facilities in catering to the huge wind power generation potential in the region and at the same time improve the overall reliability of the transmission network,” National Grid said in its draft Transmission Development Plan 2011-2020.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusiness.htm?f=//2012/february/13/business4.isx&d=/2012/february/13

the govt should look into other sources of ren. Energy..like solar and Tidal/Marine energy. the first one in europe i think will be completed this year.

very good news indeed!!!

Thank you guys, I enjoyed reading this thread. Lots and lots of good information.

The benefits of nuclear. Tokyo Electric Power asked for a power rate increase last December 2011 after 30 YEARS without an increase. No wonder Japan was able to industrialize.

http://asian-power.com/regulation/more-news/tepco-raise-electricity-rates-fuel-costs-escalates

Another article that confirms what China knows all along about which one is the best option for longterm development. I guess they put more importance on Scientific studies than knee-jerk reaction and paranoia brought about by nuclear disasters.

China to import more Uranium

After a drop in uranium imports in 2011, China intends to increase uranium imports this year to keep pace with the building of more nuclear power plants.

China imported 16,126 tons of uranium in 2011, 6% less than the 17,135 tons it imported in 2010, said the General Administration of Customs. Qian Zhiming, deputy director of the National Energy Administration, believes uranium imports could be increased this year.

He noted that the resumption of construction of nuclear projects will occur in the first half of the year at the soonest.

One further reason for China’s ramping-up uranium imports is news that more overseas mines will start production this year.

The top four uranium exporters are Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Namibia and Australia, which together account for more than 95% of China's imports in 2011. China early this year signed a deal to buy uranium from Canada.

China can produce 850 tons of uranium a year, which could increase to 2,500 tons in the future.

Premier Wen Jiabao early this month said China will develop nuclear power in a safe and efficient way this year, adding the country will ". . . prohibit BLIND EXPANSION in the new-energy industries of solar and wind power.”

China has 15 nuclear reactors, is building at least 25 reactors and has 50 more planned, according to the China Nuclear Energy Association.

Manufacturers yes. But being EPZ locators, they don't sell their produce locally. They export them, otherwise they are violating the PEZA rules!

PEZA only requires exporters to ship 70% of their output to foreign markets. Though the 30% balance of their output is still subject to approval if they plan to sell it to our domestic market. Here's some more info;

http://www.kittelsoncarpo.com/philippines-tax-incentives

PEZA only requires exporters to ship 70% of their output to foreign markets. Though the 30% balance of their output is still subject to approval if they plan to sell it to our domestic market. Here's some more info;

http://www.kittelsoncarpo.com/philippines-tax-incentives

Whatever is written there, it's no substitute for actual experience, IMHO. Been there, done that. And I was told we can buy their products (product from an EPZ locator) thru another company that buys from them in-bulk. And that company happens to be outside of the Philippines! That's the truth.

Whatever is written there, it's no substitute for actual experience, IMHO. Been there, done that. And I was told we can buy their products (product from an EPZ locator) thru another company that buys from them in-bulk. And that company happens to be outside of the Philippines! That's the truth.

Fact is, an EPZ locator can sell domestically without violating any regulations as long as they sell within prescribed limits. Inversely, if they don't want to sell locally, it is their prerogative to do so and not because they need to comply with any regulations. In addition, it would be too presumptuous to assume that just because one company didn't want to sell to you that all the others won't sell to you as well.

Just like the stock market time, price and volume play an integral part in any make, buy or sell decisions. If you approached that company at the height of the recession when they were probably begging for orders they might have been more flexible with regards to price and volume and might have sold their products to you just to keep their workers busy. It is imperative when dealing with any player in the market whether manufacturers, buyers or sellers to study their behavior at different phases in the business cycle and to position yourself at the right time when it is most favorable so you can grab an opportunity. You will never learn the ropes so to speak, if you call dealing with one or two companies an experience. Persistence is not for the faint of heart.

Fact is, an EPZ locator can sell domestically without violating any regulations as long as they sell within prescribed limits. Inversely, if they don't want to sell locally, it is their prerogative to do so and not because they need to comply with any regulations. In addition, it would be too presumptuous to assume that just because one company didn't want to sell to you that all the others won't sell to you as well.

Just like the stock market time, price and volume play an integral part in any make, buy or sell decisions. If you approached that company at the height of the recession when they were probably begging for orders they might have been more flexible with regards to price and volume and might have sold their products to you just to keep their workers busy. It is imperative when dealing with any player in the market whether manufacturers, buyers or sellers to study their behavior at different phases in the business cycle and to position yourself at the right time when it is most favorable so you can grab an opportunity. You will never learn the ropes so to speak, if you call dealing with one or two companies an experience. Persistence is not for the faint of heart.

That's correct. One company did not sell to me citing a reg for PEZA locators. Unfortunately, there are no other locators in the Philippines that produce competing products, AFAIK. So I don't have the luxury of asking any other locator if they will sell their product because I don't need those products anyway! See the picture?

If I may ask, does PEZA have separate regs for every zone in the country? If so, what our PEZA is implementing is dang bad!

Gov’t urged to solve Mindanao brownouts (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/164085/gov%E2%80%99t-urged-to-solve-mindanao-brownouts)
By Jocelyn R. Uy
Philippine Daily Inquirer
6:45 pm | Monday, March 19th, 2012

MANILA, Philippines—A Catholic bishop on Monday joined calls for the government to immediately find a solution to the ongoing rotational brownouts in parts of Mindanao.

Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad lamented that the frequent power interruptions in the region have already affected the daily lives of residents and have even taken their toll on household appliances.

“Due to the blackouts, most appliances are destroyed and many things are affected,” Jumoad told reporters when reached by phone on Monday.

Jumoad added that he was, however, thankful that the power interruptions have not yet affected the attendance of the faithful in Sunday masses. “Church attendance is okay because the people are already getting used to the brownouts,” he said.

“[But] I hope the government may find solution to this problem,” Jumoad said.

The National Grid Corp. of the Philippines last week announced that the Mindanao grid lacked 178 megawatts, an increase of 40 MW from the 138 MW shortfall on Feb. 22.

It attributed the increase in power supply deficiency to the 38-MW drop in available capacity from 1,117 MW on Feb. 22 to 1,079 MW last week.

Several electric organizations in Mindanao have already urged lawmakers for a congressional inquiry into the frequent power interruptions occurring in the region.
Let's hope the people who opposed the installation of additional power plants in Mindanao can offer solutions to this problem.

US firm to invest over $2.6 B in Phl
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=788856&publicationSubCategoryId=66

MANILA, Philippines - Texas-based Quantum International Group Inc. plans to invest more than $2.6 billion on five plasma gasification plants in the country that can produce as much as 13,000 megawatts (MW) of electricity, a top company executive said.

Five more plasma gasification plants using industrial waste will be put up, and this can cut the cost of electricity by 25 percent in five years, Quantum International president and chief executive Al Johnson said.

He said the benchmark investment will be $250-$300 million for a plasma plant that can gasify 1,000 metric tons (MT) of garbage, $450 million for the 2,000-MT plant and $850 million for a 4,000-MT unit.

The plasma technology gasifies materials like coal and industrial waste at 5,000 to 7,000 degrees Celsius, then converting it to electricity.

For every MT of garbage, Quantum can produce 800 kilowatts up to one MW of electricity.

Johnson said initially, four plasma plants capable of gasifying 2,000 MT of garbage per day will be put up in Davao and Surigao del Norte. A plant with the capacity of gasifying 5,000 MT of garbage per day will be built in Surigao del Norte.

To date, the Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao grids have a peak demand of 7,047 MW, 1,350 MW and 1,256 MW, respectively.

“The only thing that we require is garbage. We need long term contracts with a minimum of 1,000 MT per day,” Johnson said.



Quantum is already in talks with local government units for the garbage supply.

Johnson said the company also wants to sell electricity at market prices.

Given the amount of power that will be produced by the firm, Johnson said “in five years, rates in Philippines will drop 25 percent, then two years more, 50 percent.”

This will help local industries to be more competitive as the country’s electricity cost is the highest in Asia, he said.

Johnson said the ports in Surigao del Norte and Bataan can be used to import garbage for more power production.

The plasma gasification technology was developed by the US military in the 1960s to get rid of unstable emissions and explosives.

“The nice thing about plasma for non-military purposes is we can get rid of hazardous and toxic compounds,” Johnson said.

Deadly elements in the industrial world include heavy metals, radioactive wastes, industrial sludge, asbestos and medical waste.

A plasma gasification plant can start commercial operations after 18 months of construction, Johnson said.

To date, Quantum is building a plant in Brunei, Malaysia, Bangladesh and South Africa.

Johnson said the company will fund, own and operate plasma gasification plants while allotting five percent of net revenues to host communities.

Quantum International, which is also into construction, low-cost housing, mining operations, military and police contracts and joint venture commercial project in the US, is backed by five investment trust funds.

US firm to invest over $2.6 B in Phl
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=788856&publicationSubCategoryId=66

MANILA, Philippines - Texas-based Quantum International Group Inc. plans to invest more than $2.6 billion on five plasma gasification plants in the country that can produce as much as 13,000 megawatts (MW) of electricity, a top company executive said.

Five more plasma gasification plants using industrial waste will be put up, and this can cut the cost of electricity by 25 percent in five years, Quantum International president and chief executive Al Johnson said.

He said the benchmark investment will be $250-$300 million for a plasma plant that can gasify 1,000 metric tons (MT) of garbage, $450 million for the 2,000-MT plant and $850 million for a 4,000-MT unit.

The plasma technology gasifies materials like coal and industrial waste at 5,000 to 7,000 degrees Celsius, then converting it to electricity.

For every MT of garbage, Quantum can produce 800 kilowatts up to one MW of electricity.

Johnson said initially, four plasma plants capable of gasifying 2,000 MT of garbage per day will be put up in Davao and Surigao del Norte. A plant with the capacity of gasifying 5,000 MT of garbage per day will be built in Surigao del Norte.

To date, the Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao grids have a peak demand of 7,047 MW, 1,350 MW and 1,256 MW, respectively.

“The only thing that we require is garbage. We need long term contracts with a minimum of 1,000 MT per day,” Johnson said.



Quantum is already in talks with local government units for the garbage supply.

Johnson said the company also wants to sell electricity at market prices.

Given the amount of power that will be produced by the firm, Johnson said “in five years, rates in Philippines will drop 25 percent, then two years more, 50 percent.”

This will help local industries to be more competitive as the country’s electricity cost is the highest in Asia, he said.

Johnson said the ports in Surigao del Norte and Bataan can be used to import garbage for more power production.

The plasma gasification technology was developed by the US military in the 1960s to get rid of unstable emissions and explosives.

“The nice thing about plasma for non-military purposes is we can get rid of hazardous and toxic compounds,” Johnson said.

Deadly elements in the industrial world include heavy metals, radioactive wastes, industrial sludge, asbestos and medical waste.

A plasma gasification plant can start commercial operations after 18 months of construction, Johnson said.

To date, Quantum is building a plant in Brunei, Malaysia, Bangladesh and South Africa.

Johnson said the company will fund, own and operate plasma gasification plants while allotting five percent of net revenues to host communities.

Quantum International, which is also into construction, low-cost housing, mining operations, military and police contracts and joint venture commercial project in the US, is backed by five investment trust funds.
It's been a few minutes since I replied to your other post of this same article. For the record, I have nothing against legit business anywhere. It's just that I happen to read some info and we need to do some verifications. You can do your own sleuthing but I have surfed the web for info and I go this:
LINK (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=Alfred+Johnson%2C+Texas%2C+Quantum+-medical&source=web&cd=12&ved=0CHAQFjAL&url=http%3A%2F%2Fenkorr.com%2FENKORR_Notice-Quantum_International_Trust.pdf&ei=_DlpT6rqMo6iiAegvcnLCg&usg=AFQjCNFLfzAEumTcJ_V9kAobEJzSgc7YLw)

That's correct. One company did not sell to me citing a reg for PEZA locators. Unfortunately, there are no other locators in the Philippines that produce competing products, AFAIK. So I don't have the luxury of asking any other locator if they will sell their product because I don't need those products anyway! See the picture?

If I may ask, does PEZA have separate regs for every zone in the country? If so, what our PEZA is implementing is dang bad!

I suspect the person you inquired from either misinterpreted the regulations or just downright made an alibi so you wouldn't be as disappointed since they made it appear that they're merely complying with our country's bylaws instead of stating the real reasons why they didn't want to sell.

With regards to special regs as they apply to manufacturing firms in other EPZs, I would think that PEZA being supposedly a professionally run institution would be consistent in their enforcement of rules irrespective of location so long as it is in their jurisdiction. There may be special rules for BPOs since they belong to the service industry but other than that I'm not aware of any.

You can try looking at Aliexpress maybe you can find a similar item there. Who knows, maybe you can get a better deal buying overseas but the tradeoff is dealing with customs merry-go-round which may not be worth all the trouble.

If we will have more Lacierda's in government, we expect more muddling of issues. Why? Read this new article:

Palace considers power barges for Mindanao (http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Nation&title=Palace-considers-power-barges-for-Mindanao&id=48792)

MALACAÑANG confirmed that power barges are being considered as a stopgap measure to augment the power supply and ease the intermittent power outages in Mindanao, even as a hydro plant in Bukidnon will likely not be privatized, a Palace aide said on Wednesday.

Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda indicated that stakeholders are currently looking at "short-term measures" to resolve the power lack in Mindanao, such as bringing in power plants installed on a deck barge, as confirmed by the Department of Energy (DoE).

"Power barges that can be moved to Mindanao are being offered by the private sector to provide temporary relief but will not be moved unless they are appropriately contracted," Mr. Lacierda said at a Palace briefing on Wednesday.

He said that there was no decision yet on whether the power barges would be contracted by the government or the private power distributors.

Currently, a 200-megawatt (MW) capacity power barge owned by Therma Marine, Inc. is already in use, he said. In its Web site, the National Grid Corporation of the Philippines (NGCP), the private sector operator of the state-owned transmission grid, noted that Mindanao lacks reserves amounting to at least 190 MW, given that the system capacity of Mindanao is at 1,084 MW and yet utilization usually peaks at 1,274 MW.

The NGCP, in a Jan. 23 report, had projected an average shortage of 179 megawatts for the island in March to as high as 345 MW in April.

"There are short- and long-term steps that have to be taken and this will all be discussed by the DoE and by the Mindanao Development Authority (MinDa)," Mr. Lacierda said yesterday.

In a related development, he said that the Pulangui V hydrothermal plant will also likely not be sold.

"The position of the Mindanao congressmen is that we don’t need to sell the hydrothermal plant there. But then, again, that’s subject to a discussion on the long-term solution to the power problem in Mindanao," Mr. Lacierda said. -- Johanna D. Poblete

Where in the Philippines can you find "hydrothermal plants"? Maybe he's thinking about fumaroles deep down in the Philippine Deep (hydrothermal vents)!

^^ nice one parchie :lol: :lol: :lol:

^^ nice one parchie :lol: :lol: :lol:
On the other hand, what we read and hear in the news doesn't really speak much about how the people in Mindanao see things. I tried thread-hopping the other day on all the Mindanao threads and found only the Surigao thread discussing the power deficiency problem! It seems crazy to think that people from outside of Mindanao are so concerned about a pressing power problem but the Mindanoans are busy with other things, not power problems. I hear their politicians doing the blame game though.

If we will have more Lacierda's in government, we expect more muddling of issues. Why? Read this new article:

Palace considers power barges for Mindanao (http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Nation&title=Palace-considers-power-barges-for-Mindanao&id=48792)



Where in the Philippines can you find "hydrothermal plants"? Maybe he's thinking about fumaroles deep down in the Philippine Deep (hydrothermal vents)!

Baka he means hydroelectric plants...masyado ka naman...toinks!:cheers:

Newly-installed solar powered street lights along the Legazpi Boulevard in Legazpi, Albay (at left)
As of March 2012

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Hmm I can't find an Earth Hour forum with energy consumption thread. This is from www.phinmpaproperties.com

;89812704']Newly-installed solar powered street lights along the Legazpi Boulevard in Legazpi, Albay (at left)
As of March 2012

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How long will these lights glow during the night? 3 hours?

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt84/plmetzen/ASiA%20Enclaves%20Alabang/EarthHourwebsitepicturemarch26.jpg

Hmm I can't find an Earth Hour forum with energy consumption thread. This is from www.phinmpaproperties.com

araw2x at gabi2x may earth hour(s) kami sa Mindanao. :colgate:

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt84/plmetzen/ASiA%20Enclaves%20Alabang/EarthHourwebsitepicturemarch26.jpg

Hmm I can't find an Earth Hour forum with energy consumption thread. This is from www.phinmpaproperties.com (http://www.phinmpaproperties.com)
It's okay to post it here. It does impact the economy!

No electric consumption, no LRT runs, no radio transmissions, no TV, no cellular phone signal, no processes running, no production, no work, no pay, etc. .

araw2x at gabi2x may earth hour(s) kami sa Mindanao. :colgate:
Hehehe. I thought you're too weary to react cuz you're already black and blue with power blackouts!

^^Well, we have just to suffer from these brownouts till 2014. I wonder if IMPERIAL MANILA is doing something?

Anyway, I just checked the NGCP website and found out that the reserves is -172 MW!

Ano ba talaga ang totoo diyan sa Mindanao?

Mindanao power crisis 'artificial' – Pimentel
http://static.rappler.com/images/Mar%2025%20Koko%20pimentel%20420.jpg
by David Y. Santos
Posted on 03/26/2012 5:07 AM | Updated 03/26/2012 8:49 AM

MANILA, Philippines – Just days after Malacañang assured that the government is taking measures to avert another looming energy crisis in Mindanao, Sen. Aquilino Pimentel III on Sunday (March 25) called on his colleagues to immediately conduct an inquiry amid suspicions that the power shortage in the region could be fabricated.

Speaking to GMA News TV's noontime newscast on Sunday, Pimentel insisted that the Senate Committee on Energy chaired by Sen. Serge Osmeña to probe into the emergency situation besetting residents of Mindanao due to lack of power supply.

Sen. Chiz Escudero made a similar appeal to Osmeña through a recent public statement.

“If I need to personally to beg to Sen Osmeña to hold the inquiry before the Holy Week break, I will have to,” Pimentel said. “This is an emergency situation since it is affecting the daily lives of (thousands) of Mindanaons, as well as the region's business climate.”

Pimentel, who is a native of Cagayan de Oro City, justified the “urgent need” to convene the energy committee to discuss the power problem besetting Mindanao pointing out that Senate plenary has “authorized” the conduct of hearings even if Congress has declared a 6-week break beginning last March March 23.

Both Pimentel and Escudero have cast doubts on the actual reasons behind the widespred power interruptions that have been gripping Mindanao for the past several weeks.

“I am just wondering why the demand has surpassed the supply of electricity. Is there a sudden influx of new investments in Mindanao why there seem to also be a surge in consumption of power?” Pimentel said.

The National Grid Corporation of the Philippines (NGCP), which has been blamed for the daily power outages, said power supply in Mindanao was acutely short due to "lack of power supply generated by plants."

Mindanao Development Authority (MinDA) chairman Luwalhati Antonino has accused the NGCP of creating an "artificial shortage" in its bid to have the Angus-Pulangi Power Plant privatized.

Pimentel said he is inclined to believe MinDA's explanation thatt “some entity” is trying “to manipulate the situation” in a bid “to get something out of this artificially-created crisis.”

"Just because this is not happening in the metropolis does not mean this problem is not important. 1/4 of our population lives in Mindanao. Immediate intervention must be given to this persisting problem given the already volatile peace problem in Mindanao,” Escudero said in his March 20 statement.

Escudero added the security problem is some parts of Mindanao could worsen if the power crisis is not averted since it will consequently result to the pullout of investors and closure of many businesses in the region.

Osmeña has yet to answer the pronouncements made by Pimentel and Escudero but in a separate statement issued last March 23, placed the blame on Mindanao congressmen “who pushed for a 10 year exemption from the privatization program of the National Power Corporation (NPC)-owned plants in Mindanao, notably the Agus-Pulangui hydropower complex which at that time supplied about 75% of the power needs of Mindanao at the lowest rate.”

Osmeña, who also who also co-chairs the Joint Congressional Power Commission which is tasked with oversight responsibilities on the implementation of the Electric Power Industry Reform Act (EPIRA) of 2001, said the decision of the bicameral committee then to postpone the construction of the transmission line interconnection between Leyte and Surigao” worsened the situation.

The senator from Cebu admitted regretting his decision acceding to the “well-meaning” requests of the Mindanao solons since he may be “blamed indirectly for the power shortage that is now causing economic and social hardships to the residents of Mindanao.”

Aside from shedding light into the causes of the pending power crisis, Pimentel said the conduct of an immediate Senate hearing should have divert government funding from least priority projects, to infrastructure that should help ease the power shortage in Mindanao. - Rappler.com

Ano ba talaga ang totoo diyan sa Mindanao?

Mindanao power crisis 'artificial' – Pimentel
http://static.rappler.com/images/Mar%2025%20Koko%20pimentel%20420.jpg
by David Y. Santos
Posted on 03/26/2012 5:07 AM | Updated 03/26/2012 8:49 AM

Let's ask Pnoy, if he's not too busy running after CGMA and Corona!

Windmill power plant, ipapatayo sa Pangasinan

L1GR2TLfOKo

http://youtu.be/L1GR2TLfOKo

by gmanews on Mar 30, 2012
Balita Pilipinas Ngayon rounds up the top stories from around the PhilippinesGMA's regional stations in Luzon, Visayas, and MIndanao. It's hosted by Mark Salazar and Maki Pulido and airs at 4:30 PM (PHL Time), Mondays to Fridays on GMA News TV Channel 11.

:wave: hello

:) :)
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:lol:me likey! :cool:

like it too

$280-M Alsons Power Plant In Mindanao Given ECC By DENR



By BERNIE CAHILES-MAGKILAT
March 31, 2012, 11:57pm


MANILA, Philippines — The $280-million San Ramon Power plant of Alsons Group has secured an Environment Compliance Certificate (ECC) from the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) and is expected to add new 100 million megawatt power capacity to Mindanao, which is experiencing eight-hour daily power blackouts.

In issuing the ECC, the DENR said San Ramon Power Inc. may proceed with the project implementation after securing all the necessary permits from other pertinent government agencies. The ECC was signed by Director Juan Miguel T. Cuna by Authority of DENR Chief Ramon Paje.

Tirso G. Santillan Jr., CEO of San Ramon Power, said they are fully prepared to comply with the requirements of the ECC on the matter of transparency and stakeholder education, social development program, ecosystem enhancement, air and water quality, greenhouse gas mitigation and hazard management.

Santillan said the coal-fired power plant in the Zamboanga Ecozone located in sitio San Ramon in Barangay Talisayan, Zamboanga City, has the strong support of the largest labor group in the area, which declared the “Declaration of Support.”

Earlier, Jose J. Suan, president of the Philippine Integrated Industries Labor Union (PHILU) and concurrent Vice President of the Trade Union Congress of the Philippines (TUCP), said his organization’s 15,000 members endorsed the plant as labor has been the hardest hit by the daily three-four hour blackouts over the past four months.

Suan said unless the power condition improves, workers’ man-hours and working days will be reduced drastically because manufacturing plants cannot go into full-scale operation, and that most of the workers are employed with the canning, plywood and fishing industries.

In a worse-case scenario, Suan said that plants may have to relocate to other places where there is stable and sufficient power supply, thereby causing a huge unemployment problem in Zamboanga city.

At the same time, San Ramon Power Incorporated (SRPI) consultant and former Napocor Regional Chief Engr. Ruben Conti stressed the “determination and readiness” of SRPI to respond to the needs of the people of Zamboanga and the rest of southern Mindanao; adding that the plant is expected to be completed in three years time and will be able to provide the needed power needs of the city, which is at present pegged at 85 megawatts.

http://mb.com.ph/articles/355954/280m-alsons-power-plant-in-mindanao-given-ecc-by-denr

http://mb.com.ph/articles/355954/280m-alsons-power-plant-in-mindanao-given-ecc-by-denr

Quote:
$280-M Alsons Power Plant In Mindanao Given ECC By DENR

By BERNIE CAHILES-MAGKILAT
March 31, 2012, 11:57pm

MANILA, Philippines — The $280-million San Ramon Power plant of Alsons Group has secured an Environment Compliance Certificate (ECC) from the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) and is expected to add new 100 million megawatt power capacity to Mindanao, which is experiencing eight-hour daily power blackouts. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

We would like to ask our government to compliment that power plant construction with two submarine power cables (one at Leyte-Surigao area and another set at Negros-Dapitan area) to let the whole national grids take advantage of this humongous power plant capacity!

If this gets done, this will be the biggest ever power project in the Philippines! 100 million MW = 100,000,000,000,000 watts!

But wait, for $280M? That would be very a small amount; perhaps $280trillion is needed! MAGKILAT LANG ANG NAWONG SA REPORTER!

ang iyang Mw imbes megawatts kay million watts pagka bugo

sobra.

100 million megawatts:lol:

sana naman hwag ng hintayin ni Noy na andito na yung crisis na ito bago kumilos! :bash:



Luzon power crisis looms—Angara
By Christian V. Esguerra, Kristine L. Alave
Philippine Daily Inquirer 12:42 am | Monday, April 2nd, 2012

The energy shortage that Mindanao is experiencing will hit Luzon in two years unless the Aquino administration taps more renewable energy sources, Senator Edgardo Angara warned Sunday.

Angara assailed what he called the “feet-dragging” of the administration—and also of the administration of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo—in fully implementing the 2008 Philippine Renewable Energy Act.

“Luzon will [experience] its own crisis in two years’ time unless we open up our renewable energy sources,” Angara said in an interview over dzBB radio.........http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/170733/luzon-power-crisis-looms%e2%80%94angara

Maybe could filippino government decide to start Bataan power station ?
If Philippines needs 3 or 4 EPR: they only have to ask.

:wave: hello
me likey! :cool:

MeGusta! :cheers:

sana naman hwag ng hintayin ni Noy na andito na yung crisis na ito bago kumilos! :bash:



Luzon power crisis looms—Angara
By Christian V. Esguerra, Kristine L. Alave
Philippine Daily Inquirer 12:42 am | Monday, April 2nd, 2012

The energy shortage that Mindanao is experiencing will hit Luzon in two years unless the Aquino administration taps more renewable energy sources, Senator Edgardo Angara warned Sunday.

Angara assailed what he called the “feet-dragging” of the administration—and also of the administration of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo—in fully implementing the 2008 Philippine Renewable Energy Act.

“Luzon will [experience] its own crisis in two years’ time unless we open up our renewable energy sources,” Angara said in an interview over dzBB radio.........http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/170733/luzon-power-crisis-looms%e2%80%94angara

hope the government takes this seriously. sana maging proactive ang gobyerno.

The Ilocos coast is very windy during the cold months....I think it is ideal to set up wind energy there.

The Ilocos coast is very windy during the cold months....I think it is ideal to set up wind energy there.


Correct.That's why pproponents sited in Bangui Bay and they got those 15 units of wind power humming there!

The Ilocos coast is very windy during the cold months....I think it is ideal to set up wind energy there.

Correct.That's why pproponents sited in Bangui Bay and they got those 15 units of wind power humming there!

Include Cagayan North Coast. I think the current windmill count is still 20. The last time I went there was in 2010

So pwede sa pasang-at halimbawa kapag pa-Baguio? Wow!


MOTORING TODAY By Ray Butch Gamboa SPMJ (The Philippine Star) Updated April 04, 2012 12:00 AM

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Stradcom president Cesar T. Quiambao (left) seals the partnership with Sunshine TV’s chairman and ceo Ray Butch Gamboa (right) to determine the country’s most preferred automobile models in the 2012 Auto Focus People’s Choice Awards. Present during the MOA signing were members of Stradcom’s executive committee.


“Compared to operating petrol-run jeepneys, the e-jeepney can give you monthly savings of about twelve to fifteen thousand pesos per unit a month in terms of maintenance costs,” confidently declared Yuri Sarmiento, ceo of EJTC, operators of the e-jeepneys that now ply the streets of Makati, which was recently given a stamp of approval by the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB). “We have no engine to maintain, no engine oil to buy and other costs that come with a petrol-run vehicle, making the e-jeepney ultimately more cost effective,” he added in our exclusive one-on-one, on-cam interview for the TV show Motoring Today (12 noon, Sundays, Solar Sports Channel, Sky and Global-Destiny cable networks).

If you were a 10-jeepney transport operator who knew how to do the math, that means savings of about one hundred twenty to one hundred fifty thousand pesos a year, which is enough to buy another unit in a few month’s time. And that’ll also make you a responsible citizen of the world as e-jeepneys do not have the dreaded atmosphere-destroying emissions making them environment-friendly to the highest degree.

I asked him about what some are saying that e-jeepneys can only be used on flat road routes as hill climbs can pose power problems. Yuri immediately dismissed this as a wrong perception about e-jeepneys by saying that it only takes an e-jeepney with a higher power output for routes that have ascends like going to La Union and even Baguio.

source (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=794065&publicationSubCategoryId=72)

hope the government takes this seriously. sana maging proactive ang gobyerno.

huwag uli "noynoying" attitude

By: Amy R. Remo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
11:26 pm | Monday, April 2nd, 2012

State-run National Electrification Administration (NEA) has extended a total of P1.9 billion worth of loans to 87 electric cooperatives last year and in the first two months of 2012, to help finance various electrification projects.

According to NEA, Cagayan I Electric Cooperative, Inc. (Cagelco I) received the biggest loan amounting to P665 million worth of stand-by credit.
La Union Electric Cooperative Inc. (Luelco) garnered the second biggest loan with P610 million. It was used to finance its monthly shortfall on the settlement of power accounts with the state-run National Power Corp. and the National Grid Corp. of the Philippines (NGCP). Also, Isabela I Electric Cooperative Inc. (Iselco I) received P560 million.

read more at source (http://business.inquirer.net/52201/power-co-ops-receive-p1-9b-from-nea)

maybe the answer to growing power crisis in Luzon

Power firm Team Energy eyes 10 renewable energy ventures

Projects to boost Luzon grid capacity
By: Amy R. Remo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
9:36 pm | Sunday, April 1st, 2012

Team Energy, a partnership between Japanese firms Marubeni Corp. and Tokyo Electric and Power Co., is keen on pursuing at least 10 renewable energy projects that will use geothermal, biomass and hydro resources.

Team Energy president and CEO Federico Puno said the company was looking at developing six hydropower projects, namely, the Lueco mini hydro in San Juan, La Union; Philex Tailings Pond and the Asin hydropower projects in Tuba, Benguet; the Kalinga mini hydro in Tabuk, Kalinga; Hydrotec power projects in various sites in Luzon and Visayas, and the Talubin and Caneo mini hydropower project in Mountain Province.

These hydropower projects—which are now in varying stages of evaluation, negotiation, exploration and development—are expected to generate between 1 and 6 megawatts.

source (http://business.inquirer.net/52067/power-firm-team-energy-eyes-10-renewable-energy-ventures)

Posted on April 01, 2012 09:16:34 PM

THE JAPANESE joint venture TeaM Energy is looking to invest in ten renewable energy projects across the country to add to its portfolio, an official said last week.
The partnership between Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) and Marubeni Corp. bared a list of hydroelectric, geothermal and biomass projects which are under various stages of development.

“We are looking at some mini-hydro projects in the North. There are also other renewable energy projects in the pipeline,” TeaM Energy President Federico E. Puno told reporters in a briefing.

These include the La Union Electric Cooperative (Lueco) mini-hydro project with a minimum capacity of six megawatts (MW) and the Philex Mining Corp. 1-MW hydro project from the miner’s tailings pond in Tuba, Benguet.

Potential sites for the La Union project have already been identified and a letter of intent has since been submitted to the Energy department, a TeaM Energy hand out showed.

The firm is now collating documents to secure a service contract from the government and gauges have been installed to measure water levels in the area.

Site inspection, meanwhile, has already been conducted at the Philex tailings pond, with findings pointing to the need for “massive” modifications for the pond. The miner has reportedly “reiterated interest” in a partnership.


source (http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Corporate&title=TEPCO,-Marubeni-eye-ten-local-renewable-energy-projects&id=49353)

^^ the most exiting part is the windmill over pangasinan.. hope that they will build all of them on the shoreline facing the west philippine sea.. a very good source of wind energy...

for example: the stretch of ilocos provinces to bataan..

I wonder if it's also as windy in the Eastern coast. If it is, then, have wind energy in all coasts

(kaso baka tamaan ng NK rocket..:lol:)

So pwede sa pasang-at halimbawa kapag pa-Baguio? Wow!


MOTORING TODAY By Ray Butch Gamboa SPMJ (The Philippine Star) Updated April 04, 2012 12:00 AM



source (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=794065&publicationSubCategoryId=72) Definitely yes to E-Jeepneys (and hoping they also preserve the classical exterior) but a definite no to E-tricycles. What I would rather have to replace the tricycle is this forgotten icon (but a sure tourist magnet). I would rather ride this than a tricycle.

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Teka, teka Hugo Boss, are we on the right thread? :lol: :lol:

pwede rin sa automobiles thread,but innovation narin ito answer to the energy source crisis

^^ this is ridiculous.. :lol:

new innovations/inventions are always get ridiculed:D

^^ Gitano 111, Filipino made electric sports car, self-charging, top speed 220 kph :eek::bow: :applause:

Uvgg_K_5cGE

The Sport GT 111 is made in the Philippines, design of the company for a performance electric car will also be taking its shot in the roads of Europe in the near future. This has been based on the arrangement it had with a British investor which tapped it for the creation of a prototype that can strongly compete with top European models.

What is best for this car is that, It has a self charging battery no need to re charge the battery. It has a 250HP and 220km/hr top speed. :okay:

According to Michel Motorsport president Jan Kierulf, with all the competencies and craftsmanship of the local talents, the Philippines is well-positioned to "become the auto design capital of Asia."

The only lacking in the equation would be the appropriate policy support to make the industry thrive. If the government is bent on pushing such initiative on the success front, it will have its way by setting in policy directions, such as initially exploring tie-ups for a National Car Program.





awesome talents! sana hindi na naman biktimahin ng mga mediocre talangka's ang inventor nito.

There are alot of opponents and critics of -ejeepneys and e-trikes. But for me, if local manufacturers can address issues and problems regarding these e-vehicles then the country should massively use these type of vehicles.:cheers:

There are alot of opponents and critics of -ejeepneys and e-trikes. But for me, if local manufacturers can address issues and problems regarding these e-vehicles then the country should massively use these type of vehicles.:cheers:

There are a lot of very important facts skeptics would like to know from any inventor of e-cars. For me: power to weight ratio, acceleration time (0-100kph), recharging method, kilometer range, maximum slope capability, type of battery used, etc. But, the most important will be after-sales service!

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Aba, dito na tayo. The E-Calesa (Tag.) or E-Tartanilla (Ceb.) :rofl:

Zero carbon emissions. Zero dependency on gasoline or diesel. Totally green (ang damo)

Proven track record in service of the nation - more than 300 years in service. :lol:

Proven durability and low maintenance - no need for those kilometer checks, tire checks, change oil, etc. No need for insurance claims pag na-dent ang exterior. Any local carpenter can fixit. :lol:

If you need more horsepower, just add one more horse - :lol:

http://www.webweaver.nu/clipart/img/nature/horses/horse-buggy.jpg

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/photos/U04-Achaemenian3/images/Imperial%20Achaemenian%202%20Horse%20Archer%20War%20Chariot.jpg

Subok na matibay. Subok na matatag.

Mindanao power crisis ploy to justify coal plants – environmental groups (http://bulatlat.com/main/2012/03/29/mindanao-power-crisis-ploy-to-justify-coal-plants-environmental-groups/)

Manila – Environmental groups based in Mindanao slammed the recent blackouts in Mindanao as “deliberate acts” and are “part of a ploy of power distributors and the Aquino administration to justify the construction of more coal-fired power plants and other extractive energy projects such as Pulangi V Mega Dam.”

Dr. Jean Lindo, No to Coal– Davao convener and member of the newly-formed Kalikasan Party said the black outs in Mindanao are not real indicators of a power crisis.

“Power distributors can deliberately cause power black outs to happen by manipulating the power supply. This is not new. Every time these firms and investors want to build more coal-fired plants and dams, they mess around with the power supply and cry out that there’s a power crisis or an shortage in supply. This is all artificial,” he said.

Lindo said to verify the statement of Department of Energy (DoE) Secretary Jose Almendras that Mindanao needed 500MW of non-hydro power resources, “an independent ENERGY AUDIT is needed to disclose the genuine power situation of Mindanao.”

Various legislators and local government officials including Bayan Muna Rep. Teddy Casino and the two lawmakers of Gabriela Women’s Party Luz Ilagan and Emmi De Jesus have said that Congress should look deeper into the real causes of Mindanao brownouts before even considering giving President Benigno Aquino III special powers. Casiño said that “‘Old, worn out solutions won’t do to solve the Mindanao power crisis.”

“Pres. Benigno Aquino III proposed emergency powers are aimed at allowing him to enter into new contracts with the independent power producers (IPPs) without going through public bidding and the usual procurement processes. This is basically a rehash of the Ramos-era solution to the power crisis, which is to pass the ball to the private sector via onerous, oppressive, sweetheart contracts,” Casino said.



Ilagan for her part agreed with No to Coal’s Lindo’s assessment that the Mindanao power crisis is an orchestrated, artificial crisis to push for the privatization of power plants and the fast-paced construction of coal fired power plants in Mindanao.

“Mindanaoans’ power needs are being held hostage in this bid to privatize and further implement the failed EPIRA.”


“The EPIRA gave private corporations practical control over the power industry and in no way did it fulfill its promise of giving Filipinos, especially Mindanaoans, cheaper and more affordable electricity. The EPIRA paved the way for profit-driven energy production in the country. Unless the EPIRA is repealed and the power industry is nationalized, Filipinos will continue to be at the mercy of private power multinationals.”

The MDA in Mindanao has accused the National Grid Corporation of creating an artificial power shortage to encourage the privatization of the Agus-Pulangi hydropower plants. Local electric cooperatives such as the Association of Mindanao Rural Electric Cooperatives (AMRECO) and Davao Del Sur Electric Cooperative (DASURECO) have also decried the sham power crisis.



No to dirty coal plants

Lindo said there are other crucial reasons to oppose the establishment of coal-fired power plants.

“Aside from the environmental destruction and the health risks wrought by coal plants, coal fired power plants’ main clients are foreign mining corporations, which are voracious consumers of energy. Foreign mines in Mindanao take up a lot of our energy supply, ” he said.

Lindo said the energy industry in Mindanao has fallen into the hands of the corporate oligarchy, among these is Aboitiz Power Corporation, which is one of the three major investors in power generation and distribution all over the country.

“A few companies have absolute control over power rates and can pump up power rates without warrant,” said Lindo.

Based on reports, the Aquino administration has insisted on the construction of coal plants throughout the country: in Isabela, Batangas, Manila, Quezon, Zambales, Davao del Sur, Saranggani and South Cotabato provinces. The year 2011 saw the inauguration of power plants in Cebu and Iloilo. The government has granted tax holidays to companies investing on coal plants, such as Japanese corporation TeaM Energy in Pagbilao, Quezon, Petron in Limay, Bataan, and Therma South, Inc. of Aboitiz in Davao City.

Francis Morales, secretary-general of Panalipdan Southern Mindanao said the president should be more aware of the impact of coal-fired plants.

“Aquino has to end his abominable ignorance on the economic and environmental effects of coal plants, and mega dams. Coal plants and mega dams are deadly solutions. We have to go for sustainable energy sources,” he said. “While the Aboitiz company has argued the towering costs of maintaining hydropower plants due to its vulnerability to ‘weather conditions,’ hydropower plants have fallen into a state of disrepair due to premeditated government neglect.”



Harness clean, renewable power sources

Bayan Muna’s Casiño also said that in the short to medium term, the government should cancel plans to privatize the Agus river hydroelectric plants and instead rehabilitate and expand them to increase the supply of cheap, clean and renewable energy in Mindanao.

“And if we are talking about quickly addressing anymore supply gaps, what can be done within the next six to nine months is deploy solar power systems that can beef up power during peak demand periods, which is the same time that solar energy is at its peak,” he said.

Saying that privatization and deregulation of the power industry are at the root of the crisis in Mindanao, Casiño called for “new approaches premised on the regulation of the industry and the increased role of the government in ensuring cheap and stable power for the people.”

wow sana ma-mass produce na nga ang Gitano!

wow sana ma-mass produce na nga ang Gitano!

Yeah. At kung meron mang mga developments dya'an, dun ipo-post sa automotive industry thread!

Aba, dito na tayo. The E-Calesa (Tag.) or E-Tartanilla (Ceb.) :rofl:

Zero carbon emissions. Zero dependency on gasoline or diesel. Totally green (ang damo)

Proven track record in service of the nation - more than 300 years in service. :lol:

Proven durability and low maintenance - no need for those kilometer checks, tire checks, change oil, etc. No need for insurance claims pag na-dent ang exterior. Any local carpenter can fixit. :lol:

If you need more horsepower, just add one more horse - :lol:

http://www.webweaver.nu/clipart/img/nature/horses/horse-buggy.jpg

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/photos/U04-Achaemenian3/images/Imperial%20Achaemenian%202%20Horse%20Archer%20War%20Chariot.jpg

Subok na matibay. Subok na matatag.

sorry to burst your bubble but, carbon monoxide emission though is zero carbon dioxide and methane gas emission is high:D

Yeah. At kung meron mang mga developments dya'an, dun ipo-post sa automotive industry thread!

o my goolai:lol:

Proudly Philippine made


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parang pang golf:lol:

parang pang golf:lol:

Di lang pang-golf at sports, pangpasada at pangpamilya na!toinks!:cheers::cheers::)

Enrile: Accept High Cost Of Electricity:bash::bash::bash::bash:


By HANNAH L. TORREGOZA
April 9, 2012, 6:29pm


MANILA, Philippines — Power consumers should just “bite the bullet” of the high cost of electricity rather than suffer a national power crisis, Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile said.

Enrile said the consuming public has no other option but to bear the cost of higher fuel whose prices are dictated by the international market.

“Everybody should bite the bullet… People cannot do anything but pay the high price of electricity,” Enrile said in a recent interview.

The Senate leader also said it is already “too late” for people to start blaming proponents of the Electric Power Industry Reform Act or the EPIRA law which had failed to bring down the cost of power in the country.

“Wala nang magagawa ang tao kundi magbayad ng mahal na presyo ng kuryente. Iyong mga promoter (ng EPIRA) wala na sila sa kapangyarihan. Hindi mo na sila sisisihin. It is too late,” (People can’t do anything but pay the high price of electricity. The promoters of the EPIRA law are now out of power. They cannot be blamed anymore),” Enrile said.

“Kung pagsisisi at sisihan, passé na iyon. Wala nang bisa, kailangan-pikit mata harapin natin ang problema at wala nang daldalan at magtrabaho tayo (Blaming and pointing the blame is passé. It's useless, we should blindly face the problem and stop and start working on it),” he added.

And since the Mindanao power crisis is threatening to creep in to Visayas and Luzon, the government should start working on a long-term solution to plug the power shortage, he said.

Enrile said one viable option is for the government to tap nuclear energy sources as other countries have adopted safe nuclear technology to safeguard not only their people but also the environment.

“Nuclear power is the way to go…there are safe technologies but we don’t want it because we are afraid to die. But we all die. We just have to take the chance because nothing in life is without risk,” he said.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/356631/enrile-accept-high-cost-of-electricity
trapo Enrile!:bash::bash:

Texan firm keen to address local power shortage

TEXAS-BASED Quantum International (QI) has moved to strike deals for 10 plasma gasification power plants in the Philippines by 2014 in a bid to fill the electricity gap in Mindanao.

The power firm, which announced projects in Surigao last week, announced yesterday at a press briefing its medium-term plans to produce 13,000 megawatts of electricity daily once five of its plants become operational.

Plasma gasification facilities apply heat to waste to produce combustible gas which in turn is used to fuel electric turbines.

Output is seen to bring down power costs for the country. Furthermore, the use of industrial, commercial and household waste to produce electricity and alternative fuels will also help local government units phase out gradually landfills and improve sanitation.

“I would like to put up 10 plasma plants in the Philippines that you will have so much electricity, you will have to export it. I want five plasma plants in the Philippines this year. Next year, I’d like to do another five,” Al Johnson, QI chief executive officer and director of operations, told reporters.

(snip)

For the first five facilities, QI intends to put up four plasma plants in Mindanao and one in Bataan, each with a waste processing capacity of between 2,000-5,000 metric tons (MT) daily.

The projects, Mr. Johnson explained, will be set up near dumpsites to ensure a steady flow of waste materials needed for the plasma gasification chambers.

QI has built plasma gasification plants for Japan and were later taken over by their local power companies.

The benchmark investment for a 1,000-MT plasma gasification facility is between $250-350 million.

After Surigao, QI is eyeing a power plant project in Davao, Mr. Johnson said further. -- Eliza J. Diaz


http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Corporate&title=Texan-firm-keen-to-address-local-power-shortage&id=48626

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Oligarchs blamed for power crisis




A newly formed group composed of various labor unions on Monday said that the power shortage being experienced in Mindanao should be blamed on wealthy families, including that of President Benigno Aquino 3rd, who are in complete control of power generation, distribution and supply of electricity in the country.



Calling itself LAMPARA (lantern), the group claimed that the power crisis is man-made and that it was designed to hike power rates in the region. It urged President Aquino to exercise strong political will in addressing the problem to prevent it from spreading to the Visayas and Luzon in the coming years.

“We insist that the power shortage in Mindanao is man-made. These actions are clear proof that these oligarchs are socially irresponsible, politically unaccountable, and financially acquisitive.

They are scaremongering and manipulating the country’s power industry to again drive the hapless Filipino consumers and workers no choice but [reach] deeper into their pockets to pay for their increasing electric bill,” the group said in a statement.

LAMPARA is composed of the Associated Labor Unions-Trade Union Congress of the Philippines, National Power Corp. (Napocor) Employees Consolidated Unions, TUCP party-List, Napocor Employees and Workers Union, Kilusang BANAT, Philippine Airlines Employees Association, Napocor Drivers and Mechanics Association, Partido Manggagawa, National Confederation of Labor, Buklurang Manggagawag Pilipino, Sentro, and Earth Savers Movement.

Also, the groups Rebolusyonaryong Alyansang Makabansa and Para sa Bansa are members of LAMPARA.

The group said that the Pangilinans, the Tans, the Sys, the Lopezes, the Aboitizes, and even the Cojuangcos should be blamed for the Mindanao problem. It called on Mr. Aquino to discontinue political paybacks to these families and their corporate campaign contributors.

(snip)

Emergency powers
The group’s concerns were echoed by House assistant minority leader Ma. Milagros Magsaysay of Zambales province, who suspected that wealthy families could be forcing Aquino to seek emergency powers.

“The way we see it, they are forcing the President to seek emergency power and we fear that he might just give favors to those who have helped him in the last elections,” Magsaysay said.

She labeled as “arrogant and uncaring” a statement issued by Deputy Presidential Spokesman Abigail Valte last Sunday that indicated the government’s lack of concrete plans to address the power crisis.

“It’s obvious in her answer that they are not doing anything to fix the problem. It also shows the arrogance and uncaring attitude this government has,” Magsaysay said in an interview.

Lazy
Further, Magsaysay said Valte’s remarks were “lazy” when the official said that the people would have to choose between higher power rates and a prolonged crisis.

“They are forcing down our throats the issues that they could not address. Sagot ng tamad ‘yung sagot ni Valte [Valte’s reply was lazy],” she noted.

For his part, Rep. Simeon Datumanong of Maguindanao province said that the “solution offered by the government of either higher electricity cost or no electricity at all will make people believe that the power crisis in Mindanao is not merely [an issue of] insufficient source [of] power but [an] issue of electricity cost.”

“The people may not appreciate this,” Datumanong, a former secretary of the Department of Justice, said in a separate text message.

Reports quoted Valte as saying that “while traditionally the cost of electricity is higher in Luzon and Visayas compared to Mindanao, the choices now are higher electricity cost or no electricity,” as she reiterated that everyone must “share the burden in finding a solution to this problem.” :bash: :bash:

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/news/top-stories/20511-oligarchs-blamed-for-power-crisis

Onward Mindanao!

Mindanao may go nuke
Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 Written by Christine F. Herrera

Region willing to host Bataan power plant or build new one

KIDAPAWAN CITY – Businessmen and lawmakers on Tuesday said they were willing to turn to nuclear power to end the intermittent blackouts in Mindanao and to cut the cost of electricity on the island.

Ramon Floresta, president of the Kidapawan Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and Agham Rep. Angelo Palmones said Mindanao would even be willing to host the mothballed Bataan nuclear power plant, which would not only remedy the 100-megawatt deficit but also bring down the cost to P2.50 a kilowatt hour as against the P14 a kilowatt hour being charged by the power barges now.

“If the residents of Luzon have no problem with blackouts and they can afford to say ‘not in our own backyard,’ we don’t subscribe to that,” Foresta told the Manila Standard.

“We agree to host the nuclear power plant and be liberated from the six to eight hours of daily blackouts that [are hurting] our businesses.”

But former Pangasinan Rep. Mark Cojuangco, who has campaigned for a revival of the Bataan plant, said it would be impractical and too expensive to move the facility to Mindanao, and recommended instead building plants using small modular reactors.

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/2012/04/10/mindanao-may-go-nuke/




Mark Cojuangco proposes nuke power plant in Mindanao
By Jeoffrey Maitem
Inquirer Mindanao

KORONADAL CITY, Philippines—Former Pangasinan Rep. Mark Cojuangco has sought the support of the South Cotabato provincial board for a 500-megawatt nuclear power plant proposed to be built in the town of Lake Sebu, Vice Gov. Elmo Tolosa said Wednesday.

Tolosa said by phone that Cojuangco attended the regular session of the Sangguniang Panlalawigan on Monday and presented the proposed nuclear power plant project, which would reportedly be built from a P300-million fund.

He said Cojuangco, in a bid to rally the board into supporting the project, reasoned out that it will help ease the power crisis in Mindanao.

But Tolosa said the board has not signified support for the project because no specific details were presented.

“He just presented it to us as another alternative source of energy that can help ease the current power crisis,” he said.

In an interview over Bombo Radyo on Wednesday, Cojuangco admitted making such a proposal for Lake Sebu, saying it would not only solve the power crisis in Mindanao but would also bring down the cost of electricity as well.

But he did not give specifics as to the project’s proponent.

Santiago Tudio, general manager of the South Cotabato Electric Coop., hinted he was not inclined to support any proposal to build a nuclear power plant in the province. He said it would be dangerous because of the radiation that it will emit.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/172259/mark-cojuangco-proposes-nuke-power-plant-in-mindanao

Nice.

We need nuke now.

Tolosa said by phone that Cojuangco attended the regular session of the Sangguniang Panlalawigan on Monday and presented the proposed nuclear power plant project, which would reportedly be built from a P300-million fund.


Alam ko ang mahal ng nuke plant. Ito ang mura naman. Di kaya pulbura ng watusi gagamitin dyan..toinks!:lol::lol:

@Addy,

:pepper: Go Nuclear Power (& Nuclear Arms) :pepper:
Though I think Mindanao should procure a brand new one, a French model. The Bataan plant is much too old.
I hear that the Fukushima design some are wary of belongs to a much older generation...

A few lingering questions.. what has the good congressman from Pangasinan have to do with Mindanao? Why choose Lake Sebu, it's ancestral domain and a tourist spot. I always thought Nuclear Plants required a far bigger source of flowing water such as the sea?

:) :)
http://goodolewoody.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/nuclear.jpg

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A few lingering questions.. what has the good congressman from Pangasinan have to do with Mindanao? Why choose Lake Sebu, it's ancestral domain and a tourist spot. I always thought Nuclear Plants required a far bigger source of flowing water such as the sea?


Alam ko ang mahal ng nuke plant. Ito ang mura naman. Di kaya pulbura ng watusi gagamitin dyan..toinks!:lol::lol:



that and proposed by an oligarch sounding name more notorious for robbing HL farmers their land.

ang aga pa nangangamoy hepatitis agad,

noynoying, nuclear level.

good vigilant, discerning observations though, hindi atat na noynoyan ang dating.

@Addy,

:pepper: Go Nuclear Power (& Nuclear Arms) :pepper:
Though I think Mindanao should procure a brand new one, a French model. The Bataan plant is much too old.
I hear that the Fukushima design some are wary of belongs to a much older generation...

A few lingering questions.. what has the good congressman from Pangasinan have to do with Mindanao? Why choose Lake Sebu, it's ancestral domain and a tourist spot. I always thought Nuclear Plants required a far bigger source of flowing water such as the sea?

Just like any thermal power plant, the cooling requirements depend on the amount of energy being produced. The additional cooling requirement on top of the generation cooling will be that cooling requirement in the event of abnormal conditions such as fuel rods cooling pools during maintenance servicing or the cooling water required on core temp runaway deluge(during emergencies).

Thermal power plants can achieve cooling thru evaporative cooling method (without discharging heated water into outside receiving bodies of water. That structure you have posted are cooling towers that are used around the world by nuclear reactors. The other cooling method is the once-thru heat exchangers, releasing some heat via closed system (cooling water does not mix with the primary cooling circuit) into rivers and lakes. The thermal rise regulation measured 1 km downstream/away from the cooling water outfall point will however will require large amounts of cooling water, hence your earlier statement of the need to site nuke plants around the sea shores to avail of the volume of seawater. But that doesn't mean nuke plants can't be constructed inland. France is operating 4 power plants (composed of 14 nuclear power units) inland with no cooling problems.

^^ okidoki, 4 inland French plants...
hmmmm, my wishlist also includes another set of 3 Nuclear Plants, one each for Western, Eastern and Central Visayas. :D :D

Ideally, the Central Visayas Nuclear Plant should cover the requirements for most of the region. Where could we possibly place such a plant? Mactan, Toledo, Siquijor, or Bohol? Thanks thanks. :D :D

^^ okidoki, 4 inland French plants...
hmmmm, my wishlist also includes another set of 3 Nuclear Plants, one each for Western, Eastern and Central Visayas. :D :D

Ideally, the Central Visayas Nuclear Plant should cover the requirements for most of the region. Where could we possibly place such a plant? Mactan, Toledo, Siquijor, or Bohol? Thanks thanks. :D :D

Siting of power plants needs a compromise between the economical access of the power source and maintaining a safe distance from the consuming public (in case of nuclear accidents)! If it were as easy as when you're providing a mobile power source, then those plants should be installed where it is centrally accessible to the users. But with the availability of extra-high voltage transmission and submarine cable technologies, it is going the way towards choosing the most remote power plant location. Away from people (in case of accidents) but sufficiently secure place. IMHO, pick any of the 7100+ islands that meet the requirements, and it will work just fine.

sa Tawi tawi kaya:D

pero the best malapit sa campo ng ASG:lol:

Meralco bills up this month (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/175151/meralco-bills-up-this-month) :ohno::bash::bash:

MANILA, Philippines—Customers of Manila Electric Co., the country’s biggest power distributor, can expect an increase in their electricity bills this April as the generation charge rose by 33 centavos per kilowatt-hour to P5.66 per kWh.

This means that households consuming 100 kWh a month will have to shell out an additional P33 for their April electricity bills, while those consuming 200 kWh will have to pay for P66 more. Households whose consumption would be around 300 kWh and 400 kWh, will have to bear increases of P99 and P132, respectively.

Meralco stressed that the increase in electricity bills this month was due to the hike in the cost of power it buys from the wholesale electricity spot market (WESM) and independent power producers (IPPs) last month.

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Meralco bills up this month (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/175151/meralco-bills-up-this-month) :ohno::bash::bash:

MANILA, Philippines—Customers of Manila Electric Co., the country’s biggest power distributor, can expect an increase in their electricity bills this April as the generation charge rose by 33 centavos per kilowatt-hour to P5.66 per kWh.

This means that households consuming 100 kWh a month will have to shell out an additional P33 for their April electricity bills, while those consuming 200 kWh will have to pay for P66 more. Households whose consumption would be around 300 kWh and 400 kWh, will have to bear increases of P99 and P132, respectively.

Meralco stressed that the increase in electricity bills this month was due to the hike in the cost of power it buys from the wholesale electricity spot market (WESM) and independent power producers (IPPs) last month.

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This is exactly the result of privatizing the hydro power plants of Luzon at ito ngaun ang niloloto ng mga alepores ng INDEPENDENT POWER PRODUCERS sa Mindanao.

This is exactly the result of privatizing the hydro power plants of Luzon at ito ngaun ang niloloto ng mga alepores ng INDEPENDENT POWER PRODUCERS sa Mindanao.

Where's your data to support your claim? Any links you got?

Where's your data to support your claim? Any links you got?

Sad to say I don't have a data nor any links but i'm sure that one of the engineer of the NAPOCOR research department has one. He just detailed the entire reason of the on going mindanao power crisis daw. And beside, you want prof and if you are living in Luzon just look at your ELECTRIC BILL.

More news clamoring about Nuclear Power:

Businessmen push for nuclear power to address energy crisis in Mindanao

MANILA, Philippines - Mindanao businessmen have appealed to the government to consider setting up a nuclear power plant in the region, which has been experiencing daily rotating brownouts for more than a month now.

Electric Power Alliance chairman Vicente Lao on Friday acknowledged that the Aquino administration might be lukewarm to tapping nuclear power, but said it should not be ruled out as a viable option to address the power crisis.

Lao, who also represents the Mindanao Business Council, said the government should also consider interconnecting the Mindanao grid to Luzon and Visayas.

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/29331/businessmen-push-for-nuclear-power-to-address-energy-crisis-in-mindanao

But what do they say about this "Thorium Energy?"

Is Thorium the Biggest Energy Breakthrough Since Fire? Possibly.

For the past several months, a friend of mine has been telling me about the potentially game-changing implications of an obscure (at least to me) metal named Thorium after the Norse god of thunder, Thor.

It seems like he is not the only person who believes thorium, a naturally-occurring, slightly radioactive metal discovered in 1828 by the Swedish chemist Jons Jakob Berzelius, could provide the world with an ultra-safe, ultra-cheap source of nuclear power.

Last week, scores of thorium boosters gathered in the United Kingdom to launch a new advocacy organization, the Weinberg Foundation, which plans to push the promise of thorium nuclear energy into the mainstream political discussion of clean energy and climate change. The message they’re sending is that thorium is the anti-dote to the world’s most pressing energy and environmental challenges.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2011/09/11/is-thorium-the-biggest-energy-breakthrough-since-fire-possibly/

PNoy asks Mindanaoans: Pay more to solve energy problem in the region

read (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/254838/news/regions/pnoy-asks-mindanaoans-pay-more-to-solve-energy-problem-in-the-region)

is this the best solution?

Why do you need to build nuke for power. There are more green solutions like hydro, wind solar and geothermal.

EU are reducing the use of nuke....

Abnoynoy et al. are not clueless about the Mindanao power crisis. instead, their recent manifestations prove that they are in cahoots with the oligarchs who control the power sector- the Lopezes, the Aboitizes and the Salims (via MVP)- and are behind the ARTIFICIAL power crisis in Mindanao. the power crisis in Mindanao is ARTIFICIAL because Abnoynoy and oligarchs are trying to force the people of Mindanao to pay for more expensive electricity so that they can earn more from it.

g-guhan na ito! the people of Mindanao must be outraged by this!

Why do you need to build nuke for power. There are more green solutions like hydro, wind solar and geothermal.

EU are reducing the use of nuke....

Hydro = Susceptible to water level problems (heat wave, drought) and siltation.

Wind = Not all Mindanao are windy or has viable and favorable winds for generation like in Bagui, Ilocos Norte.

Solar = No enough to provide power yet needs a vast amount of land for it's panels. No sunlight, Good luck.

Geothermal = Take a look at MGPF in Kidapawan and its plant Capacity.
http://www.energy.com.ph/our-projects/geothermal/
Mindanao I = 52 MW
Mindanao II = 54 MW

That is not enough to provide the deficient power in Mindanao. Yet, Not all areas in Mindanao are geothermal active unless your living near in a active volcano (Mt. Apo). That fact that geothermal exploration also pose a risk just like in mining since in requires drilling in order to inject water and capture steam.

I think we need more multi-purpose dam for irrigation, flood control and electricity

So far, the only viable and quick solution for Mindanao and the rest of the country is to put more coal (but dirty)plants and rehabilitate existing ones.

Of course RE plants should be prioritized. I dread nuclear energy but a big help in solving overall power problem of the Philippines.

Ang gusto ng ABNOITIZ nato na doon bumili sa THERMA MARINE DIESEL POWER BARGE ang mga power distributor ng Mindanao na ubod na mahal. Dahil malaka pala ang CONTRIBUTION ng ABOITIZ sa pangungumpanya ni ABNOITIZ nung nakaraang election. Akalain mo kinulangan ng 30% ang distribution ng AGUS-POLANGI para mapilitan yung mga power distributor na sa THERMA MARINE bumili, e ayaw ng mga local distributor kaya ito ngaun ang resulta power crisis kuno. Ito pa, bakit hindi naging sapat ang ginagawang maintenance sa mga HYDRO POWER PLANT e kumikita naman ito, yun pala gustong ebenta na ng DOE at ibang tao sa GOBYERNO sa PRIVATE INVESTOR na mga kapamilya din nila. As of now merong value na 14Billion daw yung lahat ng Hydro power plant PERO kumikita din daw ito ng 5Billion kada taon. Lahat ng ito ay ibinunyag ng isang Engineer ng NAPCOR nung ma interview cya sa isang local radio station dito samin. KAYA ABNOITIZ, ALAM KA NA NAMIN!

Ang gusto ng ABNOITIZ nato na doon bumili sa THERMA MARINE DIESEL POWER BARGE ang mga power distributor ng Mindanao na ubod na mahal. Dahil malaka pala ang CONTRIBUTION ng ABOITIZ sa pangungumpanya ni ABNOITIZ nung nakaraang election. Akalain mo kinulangan ng 30% ang distribution ng AGUS-POLANGI para mapilitan yung mga power distributor na sa THERMA MARINE bumili, e ayaw ng mga local distributor kaya ito ngaun ang resulta power crisis kuno. Ito pa, bakit hindi naging sapat ang ginagawang maintenance sa mga HYDRO POWER PLANT e kumikita naman ito, yun pala gustong ebenta na ng DOE at ibang tao sa GOBYERNO sa PRIVATE INVESTOR na mga kapamilya din nila. As of now merong value na 14Billion daw yung lahat ng Hydro power plant PERO kumikita din daw ito ng 5Billion kada taon. Lahat ng ito ay ibinunyag ng isang Engineer ng NAPCOR nung ma interview cya sa isang local radio station dito samin. KAYA ABNOITIZ, ALAM KA NA NAMIN!

Parang gusto mo yatang maging "he said - she said" itong usapang ito ah! Please let people know who the guy is, so we will know whether to believe him or not. How do we know if the person is telling the truth and not a pawn of Aboitiz's competitor? Although engineers seldom go beyond the professional ethics line compared to other disciplines, money can do miracles these days. Can you expect people to believe the words of a single man and take those line, hook and sinker? I hate it but every business exists to "profit". That's pretty basic. And if you will investigate, private businesses are far more efficient than government owned/ controlled corporations. Besides, can't people really understand that there is just a few "government owned/ controlled corporation" that "really" earns? These GOCC's has been the milking cows of government officials!

Also, many have been falsely made to believe about the wonderful capabilities of these renewable energy sources. But there's no such thing as "one solution fits all". We need to see which ones are applicable to Mindanao. If the businessmen/ investors are not sold out into some of these renewable energy options, why should people force the government into subsidizing the construction of these power plants? It's really hard to think that we will choose to allow inefficient government agencies into doing activities that we know private companies are very good at!

so you mean na talagang buking na pala si abnoy. palusot lang pala nya yung daang matuwid. yun pala may niluluto din sya.

so paano na yan baka matulad din sya kay gloria..... ha ha ha

pinas talaga wala na talagang pagasa dapat mga tao sa pinas mag aklas na.

Show proof, ayoko chism lang...:lol:

uso ba na mag show ng proff sa pinas. Akala ko ba enough na ma acuse ka lang. ha ha ha.

dapat sabihinmo antayin mo na alng sumingaw. he he he:lol::lol::lol:

What can people do? Somebody said it's payback time! But, I really wanted to know the truth of the claims to fair to everyone! Let the truth be known!

Ang gusto ng ABNOITIZ nato na doon bumili sa THERMA MARINE DIESEL POWER BARGE ang mga power distributor ng Mindanao na ubod na mahal. Dahil malaka pala ang CONTRIBUTION ng ABOITIZ sa pangungumpanya ni ABNOITIZ nung nakaraang election. Akalain mo kinulangan ng 30% ang distribution ng AGUS-POLANGI para mapilitan yung mga power distributor na sa THERMA MARINE bumili, e ayaw ng mga local distributor kaya ito ngaun ang resulta power crisis kuno. Ito pa, bakit hindi naging sapat ang ginagawang maintenance sa mga HYDRO POWER PLANT e kumikita naman ito, yun pala gustong ebenta na ng DOE at ibang tao sa GOBYERNO sa PRIVATE INVESTOR na mga kapamilya din nila. As of now merong value na 14Billion daw yung lahat ng Hydro power plant PERO kumikita din daw ito ng 5Billion kada taon. Lahat ng ito ay ibinunyag ng isang Engineer ng NAPCOR nung ma interview cya sa isang local radio station dito samin. KAYA ABNOITIZ, ALAM KA NA NAMIN!

para yatang trinaydor ng ABNOITIZ ang mga Mindanaoans. Pero are those concerned Aboitizes the Mindanao-based ones? On observation, previously the Mindanao-based Aboitizes had been keen on RE investments for many years especially on hydro, until recently when the incompetent Yellow puppet took position.

uso ba na mag show ng proff sa pinas. Akala ko ba enough na ma acuse ka lang. ha ha ha.

dapat sabihinmo antayin mo na alng sumingaw. he he he:lol::lol::lol:

show proof pa in bago ako maniwala. Ayoko chism pang paparazzi at the buzz lang yun. :lol::lol::lol:

i don't want any nuke plant in mainland mindanao, but i recommend to be put it on one of its remote islands ang problema san itatapon mga waste nito, sa isang remote island din???

i don't want any nuke plant in mainland mindanao, but i recommend to be put it on one of its remote islands ang problema san itatapon mga waste nito, sa isang remote island din???

Problema yan. Kaya relax lang about nuclear power.

RE nalang. Kala ko ba may technology na to harness wave energy? Norwegian tech ata yun.

Parang gusto mo yatang maging "he said - she said" itong usapang ito ah! Please let people know who the guy is, so we will know whether to believe him or not. How do we know if the person is telling the truth and not a pawn of Aboitiz's competitor? Although engineers seldom go beyond the professional ethics line compared to other disciplines, money can do miracles these days. Can you expect people to believe the words of a single man and take those line, hook and sinker? I hate it but every business exists to "profit". That's pretty basic. And if you will investigate, private businesses are far more efficient than government owned/ controlled corporations. Besides, can't people really understand that there is just a few "government owned/ controlled corporation" that "really" earns? These GOCC's has been the milking cows of government officials!

Also, many have been falsely made to believe about the wonderful capabilities of these renewable energy sources. But there's no such thing as "one solution fits all". We need to see which ones are applicable to Mindanao. If the businessmen/ investors are not sold out into some of these renewable energy options, why should people force the government into subsidizing the construction of these power plants? It's really hard to think that we will choose to allow inefficient government agencies into doing activities that we know private companies are very good at!

I'll ask you the same question. How will we know that the government are really telling the truth that their is really a power crisis in Mindanao and that they don't have any hidden agenda? Do you have a prof? And DOE na mismo ang nag mention that late 2010 alam na nila sa meron or magkakaroon ng power crisis sa Mindanao but it took them more than a year to act on it. For me mas credible pa yung taong i-ninterview na isang Engineer ng NPC-Iligan sa Research Department(sad to say nakalimutan ko lang yung pangalan nya) nila by our local radio station kasi meron cyang pinanghahawakan na mga documents compared sa mga taong nasa DOE or Malacanyang.

I'll ask you the same question. How will we know that the government are really telling the truth that their is really a power crisis in Mindanao and that they don't have any hidden agenda? Do you have a prof? And DOE na mismo ang nag mention that late 2010 alam na nila sa meron or magkakaroon ng power crisis sa Mindanao but it took them more than a year to act on it. For me mas credible pa yung taong i-ninterview na isang Engineer ng NPC-Iligan sa Research Department(sad to say nakalimutan ko lang yung pangalan nya) nila by our local radio station kasi meron cyang pinanghahawakan na mga documents compared sa mga taong nasa DOE or Malacanyang.

Just like what you said when I asked for proof from you! If you live in Mindanao, you will know when you flip your switches and nothing happens. That would mean there's no power. If this "no power" thing persists for a long period, it becomes a "crisis"! Better still, go to the NGCP website and see the power situation. Or read the news from Mindanao. If those things I've said all say there is "no power" for periods of time, then you are told of a cold truth that this condition exists, or doesn't it?

I have doubts if those researchers have real time info with regards to the generation levels by the minute. That said, your NPC research engineer is no exception. The best source will be the generating power plants, not some armchair researchers. I recommend to your organization (if you have one) arrange the embedment of a single person in every power plant in Mindanao, synchronize their watches and record loads at each plant at the same times and collate data to see for yourselves if what is claimed is true or not.

I would like to remind you that electric energy is a volatile commodity. If there is not much power capacity, operators will have to chop-off some loads to balance things, else blackouts happen (read as generators tripping out). There might be excess power on some specific times of day but if for any other instant, demand exceeds the capacity occurs; no load shedding is done, you loose power to all consumers. That's just how things work in the electric industry: if demand exceeds the available capacity even for just a few minutes, cascading tripping will occur. No amount of research paperwork or press release will solve the problem. You have to fill-in the deficiency by bringing in more power capacity or go bust. Leave the details to the investors/ construction companies/ government agencies.

BTW, don't read too much conspiracy theory stories/ books! It clouds you objectivity in analyzing real time problems.

I'll ask you the same question. How will we know that the government are really telling the truth that their is really a power crisis in Mindanao and that they don't have any hidden agenda? Do you have a prof? And DOE na mismo ang nag mention that late 2010 alam na nila sa meron or magkakaroon ng power crisis sa Mindanao but it took them more than a year to act on it. For me mas credible pa yung taong i-ninterview na isang Engineer ng NPC-Iligan sa Research Department(sad to say nakalimutan ko lang yung pangalan nya) nila by our local radio station kasi meron cyang pinanghahawakan na mga documents compared sa mga taong nasa DOE or Malacanyang.

keep the vigilance Mindanaoan, protect it from traitors out to unjustly exploit your fellow Mindanaoans :okay:

i don't want any nuke plant in mainland mindanao, but i recommend to be put it on one of its remote islands ang problema san itatapon mga waste nito, sa isang remote island din???No problema! :lol: :lol: With the added savings from nuclear energy, we can now purchase US rocket technology and also test launch a Philippine missile to carry nuclear waste towards the planet Venus. Pero siempre the direction of the missile will be northward to a few kilometres near Pyongyang. At para nga patas lahat from Aparri to Jolo, it would be nice to have 15 nuclear plants all across the 15 regions. buajajaja :banana:
Problema yan. Kaya relax lang about nuclear power.

RE nalang. Kala ko ba may technology na to harness wave energy? Norwegian tech ata yun.It's mainly Dutch technology, if memory serves me right. :D

Any energy source if unreliably fluctuating is a bad option. Even if the other criteria gives decision-makers a "go", it will come out economically not feasible.

E.g take the case of wind power. We all know wind is very unpredictable. It could be windy at times but calm for long periods of time. Windy times will be good but what power is there if it will be a calm week? Can we be able to schedule when to use electricity from wind power when you will never know when the winds will blow?
On the case with solar/ PV systems. Aside from a low efficiency of these mode of power and the prohibitive first costs these entails, we only get sun at daytime. When we needed electricity at night, we don't have solar power!
No matter what the decision will be, any generation capacity spent on going for RE requires an equal amount of conventional energy generation capacity of to fill-in the power deficiency should any RE unit becomes available due to its inherent generation characteristics! So, why waste money going for these unreliable sources when you still have to spend for conventional power to compliment these unpredictable sources? Did our brain farted when deciding there? Even if we will have a very balanced mix of energy sources, we still need to rely on the conventional sources of power/energy.

People are quick to feature out Germany as a nation which decided to shutdown all its nuclear power plants. The truth is, while this idea of Merkel will earn her beauty points with the general public, it is a very debatable issue in Germany which is expected to let the voters decide whether or not Germany will pursue shutting down all nuke plants by 2021. Did people ever investigate where will Germany take its energy requirements from to replace the energy foregone from its nuclear power plants? Yes. Germany will import energy from the European Grid - which could be generated from nuclear power plants just the same!

No problema! :lol: :lol: With the added savings from nuclear energy, we can now purchase US rocket technology and also test launch a Philippine missile to carry nuclear waste towards the planet Venus. Pero siempre the direction of the missile will be northward to a few kilometres near Pyongyang. At para nga patas lahat from Aparri to Jolo, it would be nice to have 15 nuclear plants all across the 15 regions. buajajaja :banana:
It's mainly Dutch technology, if memory serves me right. :D

Dutch ata is for wind tech, not sure also. :)

No problema! :lol: :lol: With the added savings from nuclear energy, we can now purchase US rocket technology and also test launch a Philippine missile to carry nuclear waste towards the planet Venus. Pero siempre the direction of the missile will be northward to a few kilometres near Pyongyang. At para nga patas lahat from Aparri to Jolo, it would be nice to have 15 nuclear plants all across the 15 regions. buajajaja :banana:
It's mainly Dutch technology, if memory serves me right. :D

Paliparin natin na dadaan sa pagitan ng Pyongyang at Beijing tapos ipalabas natin na for peaceful purposes lang para tayo maglaunch ng ating satellite. :lol:

Just like what you said when I asked for proof from you! If you live in Mindanao, you will know when you flip your switches and nothing happens. That would mean there's no power. If this "no power" thing persists for a long period, it becomes a "crisis"! Better still, go to the NGCP website and see the power situation. Or read the news from Mindanao. If those things I've said all say there is "no power" for periods of time, then you are told of a cold truth that this condition exists, or doesn't it?

I have doubts if those researchers have real time info with regards to the generation levels by the minute. That said, your NPC research engineer is no exception. The best source will be the generating power plants, not some armchair researchers. I recommend to your organization (if you have one) arrange the embedment of a single person in every power plant in Mindanao, synchronize their watches and record loads at each plant at the same times and collate data to see for yourselves if what is claimed is true or not.

I would like to remind you that electric energy is a volatile commodity. If there is not much power capacity, operators will have to chop-off some loads to balance things, else blackouts happen (read as generators tripping out). There might be excess power on some specific times of day but if for any other instant, demand exceeds the capacity occurs; no load shedding is done, you loose power to all consumers. That's just how things work in the electric industry: if demand exceeds the available capacity even for just a few minutes, cascading tripping will occur. No amount of research paperwork or press release will solve the problem. You have to fill-in the deficiency by bringing in more power capacity or go bust. Leave the details to the investors/ construction companies/ government agencies.

BTW, don't read too much conspiracy theory stories/ books! It clouds you objectivity in analyzing real time problems.

Plain and simple. How will a power plant generate enough power if it was not maintained properly. If na maintain lang ng husto ng mga kinauukolan yung AGUS-POLANGI wala sanang problema sa electricity dito sa Mindanao. Now bakit hindi na maintain yung mga hydro power plants na yan? para ipalabas ng gobyerno na hindi na yan kumikita at dapat ng i-privatized na pinangungunahan ni Sen. Osmena at ng ibang alepores ng mga pirvate power company. Yung 5-7B annually ba na kita ng NPC ay hindi sapat para i-maintain yung mga hydro complexes na yan. Bakit hindi maging best source yung Researcher na yun, e yung AGUS-POLANGI hydro complexes ang ginawan nila ng research.

Alsons sets aside P1.2 billion for Iligan diesel power plant




By Neil Jerome C. Morales
(The Philippine Star)
Updated April 16, 2012


MANILA, Philippines - Mindanao-based energy firm Alsons Consolidated Resources Inc. (ACR) is ready to spend around P1.2 billion for the Iligan diesel plant.

ACR wants to rehabilitate the power plant while working at new power projects to increase available electricity in the Mindanao grid, an official said.

The energy firm is looking at completing its purchase of the Iligan diesel plant for P300 million and spending P650 million for repairs, said ACR executive vice-president Tirso G. Santillan Jr.

“The P650 million is only for the rehabilitation. We also have operational requirement because before, fuel was supplied by the National Power Corp. (Napocor) but now we have to supply the fuel,” Santillan said.

Furthermore, acquisition of the adjacent lot and purchase of a fuel tank from Napocor will bring the total project cost to P1.2 billion, Santillan said.

The 100-megawatt (MW) Iligan diesel power is being targeted by the government to help lessen the supply shortfall in Mindanao.

The Mindanao grid, which needs an average of 1,300 MW daily, lacks an average of 50 MW to 300 MW, resulting in two to four hours of rotating brownouts since January, data from the National Grid Corp. of the Philippines showed.

For ACR, the power plant will increase revenues in the long term.



The plant, which was last operated in 2010, was sold to ACR subsidiary Conal Holdings Corp. after it was acquired by the local government due to a tax delinquency.

However, the power plant also needs clearance from the Commission on Audit before it resumes operation.

“Our contract is with Iligan City to buy it, not to lease it,” Santillan said.

To date, the diesel power plant is only capable of producing 30 MW given its deterioration, Santillan said.

ACR can increase output to 105 MW in six months after its takeover of the Iligan diesel power plant, Santillan said, adding that funding will come from reserve cash of the company.

Last year, earnings of ACR surged 20 percent to more than P456 million from P378 million in the previous year on the back of higher energy sales. To date, the company has a total generating capacity of 155 MW.z

ACR is banking on the acquisition of a diesel-fueled power plant in Iligan to further increase profits this year.

ACR’s energy and power businesses are held by Conal Holdings, Mapalad Power Corp. (MPC), Sarangani Energy Corp. (SEC), Alsing Power Holdings, Inc., Alsons Power Holdings Corp., (APHC), Northern Mindanao Power Corp., and Alto Power Management Corp.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=797362&publicationSubCategoryId=66


Pandagdag kuryente. :):)

^^ silly power investments, they rather prioritize profiteering on already heavily burdened consumers with getting more expensive and limited fossil fuel based power plants especially as PEAK OIL and PEAK COAL threaten when Mindanao has as much as 80% abundant RE resources for cleaner, cheaper more environmental friendly Energy, not to mention Asia's landmark RE Law authored by "evil" Gloria according to Yellow Media zombified jejemons. And the noynoyan administration even deliberately sat on P5 billion worth of RE investments that drove aways its investors and instead prioritized their KKKK's!! :bash: Mabuti kung mga noynoyans lang gantsuhan nila as they deserve it anyway, pero dinamay pa buong bansa :bash:

malamang mga KKKK noynoyan investors. It won't even be surprising that this country will again be placed as the World's most disaster stricken country just as it did during Cory Cojuangco Aquino's time especially in a crucial era where natural cycle of Climate Change exacerbated by manmade pollution has been wreaking havoc both domestic and global. Actually the country already jumped to unenviable top spot as world's most disaster stricken immediately after the coal financed Yellow puppet was put in position by noynoyans, ambilis na-Karma. YELLOW CURSE in the making ang hypocritical, greedy, dirty, mediocre noynoying era na ito ng bansa :ohno:

Aquino power stand dismays local leaders
Groups say crisis caused by gov’t sale of barges
By Germelina Lacorte, Jocelyn R. Uy
Inquirer Mindanao
12:57 am | Monday, April 16th, 2012

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/177339/aquino-power-stand-dismays-local-leaders

Consumers and business and political leaders in Mindanao are disappointed with President Benigno Aquino III’s response to the power crisis on the island, saying the privatization of power barges was the root cause of their woes.

Two Catholic bishops on the island were neither pleased with Mr. Aquino’s statement that Mindanao would have to shoulder higher power costs as part of the solution to the island’s electricity-supply problem.

“If only the government has not sold the power barges to Therma Marine Inc. (TMI), there would have been no shortage of power in Mindanao right now,” said Dr. Melchie Ambalong, chair of the Mindanao Commission on Women.

Ambalong pointed out that the power barges, which used to serve as the “spare tire” of the Agus-Pulangi hydropower plants, could have supplied some 200 megawatts, enough to cover the power shortfall. She was referring to PB 117 in Agusan del Norte and PB 118 in Compostela Valley, which the government sold to the Aboitiz-owned TMI in 2010.

She added that despite a provision in the Energy and Power Industry Reform Act (Epira), which allows the Power Sector Asset and Liabilities Management (PSALM) coop to allocate an amount to rehabilitate the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex, the government had left the hydropower plants to deteriorate. As a result, their installed capacity was reduced by 254 MW.

At the Mindanao Power Summit on Friday, Mr. Aquino warned of more outages if the Agus-Pulangi hydro complex remained exempt from privatization as provided by Epira.

Hydro not sustainable

With the growing population and increasing opportunities in the region, Mindanao’s dependence on hydroelectric power was not sustainable anymore, the President said.

Mr. Aquino said that due to the low supply of water, Mindanao could no longer rely on hydropower for more than half of its daily electricity consumption.

“Everything has its price. You have to pay a real price for a real service. There are only two choices: pay a little more for energy, or live with the rotating brownouts,” he said.

Energy Secretary Jose Rene Almendras even blamed the power crisis on the Agus-Pulangi hydro complex’s exemption from privatization. He said it was “difficult for any investor to put up a nonhydropower plant” because they would be competing with the low-priced power generated by hydro facilities.

Almendras said the complex continued to deteriorate, generating only 646 MW instead of its 982 MW installed capacity.

‘Fabricated’ shortfall

Various sectors, including the Association of Mindanao Rural Electric Cooperatives (Amreco), earlier alleged that the state-owned National Power Corp. (Napocor) “fabricated” the power shortage to force government to sell the Agus-Pulangi complex to private firms.

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People are quick to feature out Germany as a nation which decided to shutdown all its nuclear power plants. The truth is, while this idea of Merkel will earn her beauty points with the general public, it is a very debatable issue in Germany which is expected to let the voters decide whether or not Germany will pursue shutting down all nuke plants by 2021. Did people ever investigate where will Germany take its energy requirements from to replace the energy foregone from its nuclear power plants? Yes. Germany will import energy from the European Grid - which could be generated from nuclear power plants just the same!Best kept secret. :lol: :lol: A nuclear free Germany would still require to purchase electric power from next door France's 49 Nuclear Power Plants. All those REs are not enough for Germany. :lol: :lol:

Aquino power stand dismays local leaders
Groups say crisis caused by gov’t sale of barges
By Germelina Lacorte, Jocelyn R. Uy
Inquirer Mindanao
12:57 am | Monday, April 16th, 2012

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/177339/aquino-power-stand-dismays-local-leaders

Consumers and business and political leaders in Mindanao are disappointed with President Benigno Aquino III’s response to the power crisis on the island, saying the privatization of power barges was the root cause of their woes.

Two Catholic bishops on the island were neither pleased with Mr. Aquino’s statement that Mindanao would have to shoulder higher power costs as part of the solution to the island’s electricity-supply problem.

“If only the government has not sold the power barges to Therma Marine Inc. (TMI), there would have been no shortage of power in Mindanao right now,” said Dr. Melchie Ambalong, chair of the Mindanao Commission on Women.

Ambalong pointed out that the power barges, which used to serve as the “spare tire” of the Agus-Pulangi hydropower plants, could have supplied some 200 megawatts, enough to cover the power shortfall. She was referring to PB 117 in Agusan del Norte and PB 118 in Compostela Valley, which the government sold to the Aboitiz-owned TMI in 2010.

She added that despite a provision in the Energy and Power Industry Reform Act (Epira), which allows the Power Sector Asset and Liabilities Management (PSALM) coop to allocate an amount to rehabilitate the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex, the government had left the hydropower plants to deteriorate. As a result, their installed capacity was reduced by 254 MW.

At the Mindanao Power Summit on Friday, Mr. Aquino warned of more outages if the Agus-Pulangi hydro complex remained exempt from privatization as provided by Epira.

Hydro not sustainable

With the growing population and increasing opportunities in the region, Mindanao’s dependence on hydroelectric power was not sustainable anymore, the President said.

Mr. Aquino said that due to the low supply of water, Mindanao could no longer rely on hydropower for more than half of its daily electricity consumption.

“Everything has its price. You have to pay a real price for a real service. There are only two choices: pay a little more for energy, or live with the rotating brownouts,” he said.

Energy Secretary Jose Rene Almendras even blamed the power crisis on the Agus-Pulangi hydro complex’s exemption from privatization. He said it was “difficult for any investor to put up a nonhydropower plant” because they would be competing with the low-priced power generated by hydro facilities.

Almendras said the complex continued to deteriorate, generating only 646 MW instead of its 982 MW installed capacity.

‘Fabricated’ shortfall

Various sectors, including the Association of Mindanao Rural Electric Cooperatives (Amreco), earlier alleged that the state-owned National Power Corp. (Napocor) “fabricated” the power shortage to force government to sell the Agus-Pulangi complex to private firms.

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REAL PRICE?. E tayo na nga nag No.1 is Asia and 5th in the WORLD in terms of ELECTRICITY RATES and HE still want's us to pay a little more. Way to go sa DAANG MATUWID MR.ABNOITIZ!

Aquino power stand dismays local leaders
Groups say crisis caused by gov’t sale of barges
By Germelina Lacorte, Jocelyn R. Uy
Inquirer Mindanao
12:57 am | Monday, April 16th, 2012

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/177339/aquino-power-stand-dismays-local-leaders

Consumers and business and political leaders in Mindanao are disappointed with President Benigno Aquino III’s response to the power crisis on the island, saying the privatization of power barges was the root cause of their woes.

Two Catholic bishops on the island were neither pleased with Mr. Aquino’s statement that Mindanao would have to shoulder higher power costs as part of the solution to the island’s electricity-supply problem.

“If only the government has not sold the power barges to Therma Marine Inc. (TMI), there would have been no shortage of power in Mindanao right now,” said Dr. Melchie Ambalong, chair of the Mindanao Commission on Women.

Ambalong pointed out that the power barges, which used to serve as the “spare tire” of the Agus-Pulangi hydropower plants, could have supplied some 200 megawatts, enough to cover the power shortfall. She was referring to PB 117 in Agusan del Norte and PB 118 in Compostela Valley, which the government sold to the Aboitiz-owned TMI in 2010.

She added that despite a provision in the Energy and Power Industry Reform Act (Epira), which allows the Power Sector Asset and Liabilities Management (PSALM) coop to allocate an amount to rehabilitate the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex, the government had left the hydropower plants to deteriorate. As a result, their installed capacity was reduced by 254 MW.

At the Mindanao Power Summit on Friday, Mr. Aquino warned of more outages if the Agus-Pulangi hydro complex remained exempt from privatization as provided by Epira.

Hydro not sustainable

With the growing population and increasing opportunities in the region, Mindanao’s dependence on hydroelectric power was not sustainable anymore, the President said.

Mr. Aquino said that due to the low supply of water, Mindanao could no longer rely on hydropower for more than half of its daily electricity consumption.

“Everything has its price. You have to pay a real price for a real service. There are only two choices: pay a little more for energy, or live with the rotating brownouts,” he said.

Energy Secretary Jose Rene Almendras even blamed the power crisis on the Agus-Pulangi hydro complex’s exemption from privatization. He said it was “difficult for any investor to put up a nonhydropower plant” because they would be competing with the low-priced power generated by hydro facilities.

Almendras said the complex continued to deteriorate, generating only 646 MW instead of its 982 MW installed capacity.

‘Fabricated’ shortfall

Various sectors, including the Association of Mindanao Rural Electric Cooperatives (Amreco), earlier alleged that the state-owned National Power Corp. (Napocor) “fabricated” the power shortage to force government to sell the Agus-Pulangi complex to private firms.

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tactless talaga to, yung PR team nya di gumagana, dapat mga experts na lang pinasalita nya...wala man lang ba may nag a advise sa kanya. sabi na ngang kung di maganda yung sasabihin wag nng magbukas ng bunganga:ohno:

wag na kasi satsat ng satsat, let's go nukes na!!! kahit isa lang muna pede?:lol:

tactless talaga to, yung PR team nya di gumagana, dapat mga experts na lang pinasalita nya...wala man lang ba may nag a advise sa kanya. sabi na ngang kung di maganda yung sasabihin wag nng magbukas ng bunganga:ohno:

wag na kasi satsat ng satsat, let's go nukes na!!! kahit isa lang muna pede?:lol:

tactless, parang katunog sa testicleless:lol:

tactless talaga to, yung PR team nya di gumagana, dapat mga experts na lang pinasalita nya...wala man lang ba may nag a advise sa kanya. sabi na ngang kung di maganda yung sasabihin wag nng magbukas ng bunganga:ohno:

wag na kasi satsat ng satsat, let's go nukes na!!! kahit isa lang muna pede?:lol:

build the nukes - doon sa parade grounds ng Malacañang Palace !!

with Abnoynoy planning to sell government-owned power plants to the private sector, his cronies, especially the Aboitizes, the Lopezes and the Salims (MVP's real bosses), are very happy. happy days as here again for the oligarchs, thanks to Abnoynoy's Daang Matuwid! :naughty: ;)

with Abnoynoy planning to sell government-owned power plants to the private sector, his cronies, especially the Aboitizes, the Lopezes and the Salims (MVP's real bosses), are very happy. happy days as here again for the oligarchs, thanks to Abnoynoy's Daang Matuwid! :naughty: ;)

recite the jejemon's prayer:



SLAMAT oligarchLORRRD

a-money-amen.





YELLOW HYPOCRISY.

Wala... Tagilid na talaga mag isip ang UNGAS...

Noynoy to sell all gov’t power plants (http://www.tribuneonline.org/headlines/20120417hea1.html)

By Rocky G. Nazareno
04/17/2012

President Aquino confirmed yesterday that the goal of his administration is to sell off all the remaining power plants in the country, including hydroelectric plants, the sale of which were waived under the Electric Power Industry Reform Act (Epira) but are highly-prized by investors due to the cheap cost to operate these.

Aboitiz Power Corp. of the Aboitizes, whose family members are said to be close business associates of Aquino, is currently engaged in a massive build-up of hydroelectric power plants in Mindanao.

Aquino said the government is considering the possible privatization of the existing power plants in the country to address the energy situation in Mindanao as he encouraged more private investments in the energy sector to provide electricity for the people at a lesser cost.

^^ Abnoynoy is actually thinking- thinking of ways to enrich himself and his clan, and his fellow oligarchs. it's as simple as that. ;)

Wala... Tagilid na talaga mag isip ang UNGAS...

Noynoy to sell all gov’t power plants (http://www.tribuneonline.org/headlines/20120417hea1.html)

By Rocky G. Nazareno
04/17/2012

President Aquino confirmed yesterday that the goal of his administration is to sell off all the remaining power plants in the country, including hydroelectric plants, the sale of which were waived under the Electric Power Industry Reform Act (Epira) but are highly-prized by investors due to the cheap cost to operate these.

Aboitiz Power Corp. of the Aboitizes, whose family members are said to be close business associates of Aquino, is currently engaged in a massive build-up of hydroelectric power plants in Mindanao.

Aquino said the government is considering the possible privatization of the existing power plants in the country to address the energy situation in Mindanao as he encouraged more private investments in the energy sector to provide electricity for the people at a lesser cost.

This clearly shows that this government is one hell f*ck up government. Instead of finding ways and investing on cheaper energy they'd rather go to high cost generating solution. Para ano? para masabi natin sa ibang bansa na SOSYAL tau kasi mahal yung binabayaran natin.

^^^^^^I agree this is wrong.

Yung maling paghandle ni Noynoy sa mga sensitive issues on fuel, water and power--all basic needs there is no doubt talagang bababa ng baba ang ratings nya.

Stupid Mar Roxas should tell his President and his stupid self na hindi laging pagbibigyan sila ng tao. The waiting game and honeymoon is over. Kumilos na sila ng maayos!

^^ they don't care about you, me and everybody else in this country. what matters most to them is satisfying the personal agenda of the main people who bribed the PCOS operators and brought them to power- the oligarchs, the same group where Abnoynoy and Abu Badaff Mar belong. :naughty:

Okay okay I get it. Para walang masabi na hidden agenda, payag na ko na test case muna ang Cebu Province. For Nuclear Power Plants, what else?? :lol: :lol: And not just one, but 2 Nuclear Power Plants. One in the South, Oslob and the other one in the North, Bantayan. With that, puede na kaming gumawa ng MRT running North to South and all MRT Stations having underground citi shopping malls na fully airconditioned lahat. Just like in Hong Kong and Singapore, escalators and walkalators, the works.

Gusto ko yung French design na Nuclear Plant. :D

^^ ibebenta? sucks.. every single day this gov't are turning to suck up alone!

^^ they don't care about you, me and everybody else in this country. what matters most to them is satisfying the personal agenda of the main people who bribed the PCOS operators and brought them to power- the oligarchs, the same group where Abnoynoy and Abu Badaff Mar belong. :naughty:

The President is getting the wrong advise. He will end up like her mother overwhelmed by her cordon sanitaire. Wala ng paki sa kapakanan ng tao at puro yung sa mga kaibigang nag-finance sa kampanya niya.

Casino may have said it better:

“Good public policy dictates that power rates should be kept as low as possible to spur investments and keep prices of commodities low. But the President’s policy is to increase prices to attract private power firms whose objective is to sell power at the highest possible rates. It’s just crazy!”

^^^^^^Which is very true. These people around Aquino are are self-serving greedy fucks!:bash::bash:

How can you attract investments if power rates are the highest in Asia? How can you lessen the burden of the people if basic needs are expensive?

:bash:

^^^^^^Which is very true. These people around Aquino are are self-serving greedy fucks!:bash::bash:

How can you attract investments if power rates are the highest in Asia? How can you lessen the burden of the people if basic needs are expensive?

:bash:

He is a f****ng economics graduate pa naman.
Tama nga siguro sinabi ng kanyang instructor dati...
It's the economy, Student!

http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/economy/4821-napocor-needs-p2b-to-p3b-for-agus-pulangi-rehabilitation

The Agus complex has six hydropower plants that could generate more than 700-MW. The 255-MW Pulangi-IV hydropower plant is located in Maramag, Bukidnon.

The 80-MW Agus-I is in Marawi City; 180-MW Agus-II in Lanao del Sur; 158.1-MW Agus-IV in Lanao del Norte; and 55-MW Agus-V; 200-MW Agus-VI and 54-MW Agus-VII are in Iligan City.

Imagine if all this hydro complexes where properly maintained, e d wala ng power shortage sa Mindanao. ABNOITIZ should just focus on investigating on who are the culprits that causes for this hydro complexes to deteriorate and where did the income go instead of pursuing to PRIVATIZE this HEP. We all know the result of privatizing state owned facilities and it was not a good result.

Marcos prediction on Cojuangco-Aquino and the Energy issue: "

CLShlMhclTY


20 years from now bagsak na ang Pilipinas
-Ferdinand Marcos

Marcos prediction on Cojuangco-Aquino and the Energy issue: "

CLShlMhclTY


20 years from now bagsak na ang Pilipinas
-Ferdinand Marcos

Dami naman i-quote na credible at respectable, yan diktador at klepto pa kinuha mo. Wala bang higit na matino at honest dyan...

^^ you lack idea what you're mudslinging about except to replay what oligarch Yellow Media dictated on you.

Definitely Marcos can't claim to be as "saintly" as the Yellow mother and child as believed by Yellow mudslinging hypocrites

but it was not Marcos but the Global Elite owned IMF-WB inhuman, exorbitant interest rates that actually robbed the country's wealth when Marcos and this country was attacked by economic hitmen they funded. the alleged Marcos wealth may be traced to the Yamashita treasure where he caught the ire of the Global Elite when they panicked hysterically after he flooded it on the international market that exposed their superficial wealth merely ballooned by banks they owned.

Had Marcos been a weak leader you would have been living under a communist state by now, he had to impose martial law because Filipinos during his time were very undisciplined and corrupt, the country threatened by communist insurgency, and he exposed the Oligarchs' vile agenda at monopolizing the local economy, with his VP the Lopez oligarch planning to assassinate him.

But it was a worldwide CIA plot against the 3rd world borne from Global Elite war businesses that was actually behind the cold war atrocities occurring not just in the Philippines but around the world esp. in Latin American countries.

it was not Marcos who masterminded Ninoy's asssination but a Cojuangco oligarch.

^^ you lack idea what you're mudslinging about except to replay what oligarch Yellow Media dictated on you.

Definitely Marcos can't claim to be as "saintly" as the Yellow mother and child as believed by Yellow mudslinging hypocrites

but it was not Marcos but the Global Elite owned IMF-WB inhuman, exorbitant interest rates that actually robbed the country's wealth when Marcos and this country was attacked by economic hitmen they funded. the alleged Marcos wealth may be traced to the Yamashita treasure where he caught the ire of the Global Elite when they panicked hysterically after he flooded it on the international market that exposed their superficial wealth merely ballooned by banks they owned.

Had Marcos been a weak leader you would have been living under a communist state by now, he had to impose martial law because Filipinos during his time were very undisciplined and corrupt, the country threatened by communist insurgency, and he exposed the Oligarchs' vile agenda at monopolizing the local economy, with his VP the Lopez oligarch planning to assassinate him.

But it was a worldwide CIA plot against the 3rd world borne from Global Elite war businesses that was actually behind the cold war atrocities occurring not just in the Philippines but around the world esp. in Latin American countries.

it was not Marcos who masterminded Ninoy's asssination but a Cojuangco oligarch.

You are right about the the Global Elite, IMF-WB, (you can read about the perspective neo-marxist and dependency theories about these members of the new axis of evil) but Marcos....nah:lol::lol::lol:

Buti may isip si DA Secretary Alcala kumpara sa mga bobong cabinet secretary tulad ni Energy secretary Almendras.


Department of Agriculture eyes use of irrigation system to ease Mindanao power crisis



By Michael Punongbayan
(The Philippine Star)
Updated April 23, 2012


MANILA, Philippines - The Department of Agriculture (DA) is eyeing the use of irrigation system to ease the power crisis in the country, particularly in Mindanao now suffering from rotating blackouts.

Agriculture Secretary Proceso Alcala said yesterday an irrigation system could supply 15 megawatts of electricity daily, cheaper than the electricity of private power generators.

National Irrigation Administration (NIA) chief Antonio Nangel suggested the idea to Alcala after visiting Japan recently.

Nangel said the system is easy to use “since you only have to put a turbine engine in one part of the irrigation canal to turn it into a ‘mini-hydro power plant’, where the country can get electricity supply.”

The NIA calculated that a 15-megawatt power supply could give electricity to at least 30,000 houses daily.

“Aside from cheaper electricity, the government will also earn as Japanese investors have taken interest to pay NIA and get the project,” Nangel said.

The DA and the Department of Energy are now discussing plans to finalize the project, and if there are no hitches, it is possible that irrigation canals will be supplying electricity to residents by May 2013.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=799794&publicationSubCategoryId=63

^^ The presidents' alter-ego is no different than him. Although in some aspect, I'll have to give it to Noy but this one? No. :doh:

'World-class discovery' in Recto Bank, Philippine oil exploration company announces

23-Apr-12, 8:22 AM | Likha Cuevas-Miel, InterAksyon.com

ANILA, Philippines - Amid rising tensions between the Philippines and China over a section of the West Philippine Sea, a member of the private consortium exploring oil in the area said it may have made a "world-class discovery."

Officials of Atok-Big Wedge Co. told shareholders during its annual meeting that a report from experts commissioned to assess Service Contract (SC) 72 in Reed Bank has yielded a “world-class discovery.”

Walter Brown, Atok vice chairman, said the board met last week to assess the results of the seismic test at SC 72, also known as the Recto Bank, and they were “encouraged” by what they have seen from the report.

“The results were extremely favorable and we’re very optimistic about it,” Brown said, adding that based on their assessment, Atok has to defer other exploration projects, especially in Laos.

“We’re focusing now on oil and gas. It’s not difficult but you have to decide. But at this point we are much more interested in this prospect,” Brown said, referring to SC 72.

Atok is allotting P350 million for oil exploration and only a minuscule amount would go to mining, the official said.

The executive was not at liberty to disclose what the report contained only to say that it is a "world-class discovery.” Atok management has to wait until Forum Energy Plc discloses the information at the London Stock Exchange in the coming days.

“The results very much exceeded our expectations. We are very happy.” Roberto V. Ongpin, Atok chairman, told shareholders.

Brown said that there are several public companies involved in exploration activities in SC 72 and that Atok management does not want to preempt the others who have bigger stakes in the field that covers the Sampaguita prospect.

Atok has a 25.6-percent stake in Forum Energy, which owns 70 percent of the consortium that holds SC 72, with the rest owned by Monte Oro Resources & Energy Inc.

Forum Energy is majority owned by Philex Petroleum Corp, a unit of Philex Mining Corp. chaired by Manuel V. Pangilinan, who is also the chairman of TV5 and its online news portal InterAksyon.com.

Pangilinan had said the reserves in SC 72 could rival that of the Malampaya field.

Given signs that the prospect is economically viable, the consortium will start drilling by the end of the year. The question of whether to drill one well or a back-to-back well however remains on the table.

According to Atok officials and shareholders, the Swedes had drilled the area around Reed Bank in the late 1970s until the early 1980s, yielding some gas discoveries. This prospect was later abandoned for failing the test of economic viability.

However, the oil and gas exploration landscape has changed since, especially with the Malampaya field now producing the gas requirements of the Philippines, which is scrambling to build more power plants that use fuel other than coal and crude to stave off a power crisis, Brown said.

When asked if SC 72 contained oil, Brown said that as a geologist by profession, "there is probably a condensate. Geologically, there is a possibility of oil but not in the upper zone.”

According to a source at the Department of Energy, the “condensate” in a gas field is the liquid component, “or in layman’s terms, crude oil.”

To date, only the Galoc field within the vicinity of the Calamian Group of Islands in Northern Palawan produces oil in the Philippines.
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http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30083/world-class-discovery-in-recto-bank-philippine-oil-exploration-company-announces


Recto Bank natural gas reserves bigger than those in Malampaya -- DoE

23-Apr-12, 1:45 PM | Michelle Orosa, TV5

MANILA, Philippines - (UPDATE 7:02 PM) The Department of Energy on Monday confirmed that the natural gas reserves in Recto Bank are bigger than those in Malampaya.

The energy department's revelation came on the heels of remarks by a member of the private consortium exploring oil in the area that it may have made a "world-class discovery."

Officials of Atok-Big Wedge Co. had told shareholders during its annual meeting that a report from experts commissioned to assess Service Contract (SC) 72 in Reed Bank has yielded a “world-class discovery.”

According to Energy Undersecretary Jay Layug, it is very likely that the natural gas at Recto Bank exceeds the 2.7-trillion cubic feet in the Malampaya Natural Gas Field that has for years provided the country billions in revenue.

"We are hoping for equal, if not at least a bit higher natural gas from Sampaguita Field," Layug said Monday, referring to the area in Recto Bank where a consortium of three firms--- Forum Energy, Monte de Oro and Walter Brown---have been exploring.

The DoE said a new, substantial find in natural gas is important to the Philippines because the supply coming from Malampaya is estimated to run out by 2024.

Malampaya now supplies 40 percent of power to provide electricity to Luzon. Of the 2.7-trillion cubic feet of reserves in the field off Palawan, an estimated 1.2-trillion cubic feet of natgas has been used.

Recto Bank is ours, period

Meanwhile, Layug stressed that Philippine ownership of Recto Bank is beyond dispute, considering it is only 70 nautical miles west of Palawan, nearly twice as close to the mainland than Scarborough (Panatag) Shoal off Zambales province, and parts of the Spratly island chain. China insists on claiming both Recto Bank and Panatag Shoal, even though both are within the Philippines’s 200-mile exclusive economic zone. A stand-off over fishing rights that began April 10 is still ongoing at Panatag.

As for Recto Bank, Layug said Monday, "Hindi na dapat issue yan. As far as the Philippines is concerned, Recto Bank is ours," sabi ni Layug.

The government started exploring for natural gas at Recto Bank since the 1980's but since there was no market yet for natgas, it gave to the Forum Energy-led consortium the service contract for SC 72. The bidding for the rights to explore was part of a series of contracting rounds set by the Aquino administration in order to encourage energy investments, diversify the country’s energy supply base and maximize economic benefits from the natural resources.

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30110/recto-bank-natural-gas-reserves-bigger-than-those-in-malampaya----doe

^^^^Press release wala pa. :ohno::ohno:Paglalawayin na naman ang Tsina. Ogag na DOE undersecretary LAYUG.:bash::bash:Ayusin nyo muna power supply sa Mindanao at power at petroleum costs sa Pinas Tanga!:bash::bash::bash:

^^ Puro naman kasi press release yan wala namang nangyayari.

^^ :lol: ayaw nio yun.. sa recto bank naman sila pupunta??? :lol:

Crazy, reckless and not having an iota of hindsight on what the ramifications of their pronouncements can make! No wonder the country is into a lot of unsolved problems!

sobrang pagyayabang kasi ang inaatupag:rofl:

Buti may isip si DA Secretary Alcala kumpara sa mga bobong cabinet secretary tulad ni Energy secretary Almendras.

Mabuti yang iniisip ni Alcala! Napakalaki pa naman yang 15 MW! Napakalaking tulong po iyan! 257 MW lang naman ang deficiency ng Mindanao Grid!

^^
Alcala seems like a blot of competent Orange amid a sea of Yellow incompetence :okay:

2 coal-fed power plant projects to add 735 megawatts to Luzon grid

27-Apr-12, 4:48 PM | Darwin G. Amojelar, InterAksyon.com

MANILA, Philippines - The Board of Investments (BOI) has granted tax perks to two companies that would put up a combined 735 megawatts of power-generating capacity in the Luzon grid.

In a statement, the BOI said it approved the provision of fiscal incentives to the P49.45 billion expansion of the Masinloc Power Partners Co. Ltd.

The expansion includes the construction of two units of 300-megawatts each, bringing the Masinloc coal-fired plant's capacity to 1,200 megawatts.

The plant is owned by US-based AES Corp., which operates in 27 countries in Asia, North America, South America, Europe and Africa.

A second company that would receive fiscal perks is South Luzon Thermal Energy Corp. for its P12.878 billion project, which involves the construction of a 135-megawatt coal-fired power plant.

The planned facility would begin commercial operations on August 2014, and would serve electric cooperatives, industries and the wholesale electricity spot market.

Data from the Department of Energy showed that electricity demand is expected to grow at an average of 4.5 percent a year or up to 12,005 megawatts by 2014. The Luzon grid alone will require an additional 1,050 megawatts two years from now.

The two power projects are aligned with the 2011 Investment Priorities Plan of the government meant to attract investments in key industries to achieve inclusive growth.

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30469/2-coal-fed-power-plant-projects-to-add-735-megawatts-to-luzon-grid

sue them corrupt, incompetent oligarch puppets



Energy chief, others sued

By Malu Cadeliña Manar

Saturday, April 28, 2012

KIDAPAWAN CITY -- A top official here filed Friday a civil case against energy officials, believing there is continued disregard of the public’s demand to supply this city with the needed power from the geothermal power plants in Mount Apo.

Charged by Kidapawan Vice Mayor Joseph Evangelista were Department of Energy (DOE) Secretary Jose Almendras; Froilan Tampinco, president of the National Power Corporation (Napocor) and its Board of Directors; Emmanuel Ledesma Jr., president of the Power Sector Assets Liabilities and Management (Psalm), and its Board of Directors; and Richard Tantoco, president and chief executive officer of the Energy Development Corporation (EDC) and its Board of Directors.

Evangelista trooped to the office of the Clerk of Court here, with his two lawyers, around 4:30 p.m. Friday to file "Mandamus with Prayer for the Issuance of a Writ of Preliminary Injunction and Damages."

He said that by filing the case, the Regional Trial Court (RTC) Branch 23 here would compel Secretary Almendras and other respondents to effect the prioritization of a 25-percent load dispatch from the 104-megawatt geothermal power plants in Mount Apo for Kidapawan City, as host of the power sources.

"We're only claiming what is rightfully ours. So, we want the court to compel the DOE, Napocor, Psalm, and the EDC to implement the law, which states that, as the host of the geothermal power plants, we must be supplied 25 percent of their capacity," Evangelista said.

The filing, he said, was done after they exhausted all available "administrative" remedies in order to resolve the power crisis that beset Mindanao.

"But we were so frustrated when these government entities seemed to ignore our pleas. We've met them on several occasions in the past but to no avail," the vice mayor said.

Since April 19, the province is experiencing an eight-hour rotating blackout daily: five hours during day time and three hours during night time.
:bash:

Lawyer Cromwell Rabaya, one of Evangelista's lawyers, said the case filed Friday clearly stated that the city does not want just a direct line from the geothermal power plants but a load dispatch from these facilities.

"The direct power line from the Mount Apo to Cotelco has long been constructed, yet there is no load for Kidapawan City and in other parts of North Cotabato. We want that they give us the 26 megawatts from the geothermal power plants, and dispatch to the Mindanao grid whatever is the difference,” said Rabaya.

The power plants were constructed in early ‘90s at the 701-hectare reserved lot for Mindanao geothermal production located in Barangay Ilomavis, this city.

Section 5 (i) of Republic Act 7638 or the Department of Energy Act of 1992 mandates the DOE to “devise ways and means of giving direct benefit to the province, city, or municipality, especially the community and people affected, and equitable preferential benefit to the region that hosts the energy resource and/or the energy-generating facility.”

The DOE said in its Implementing Rules and Regulations that “in times of energy shortage, the energy-generating facility shall prioritize up to 25 percent of its contracted or available capacity, whichever is lower, which shall be delivered to the appropriate electric utility for distribution to the official resettlement/relocation sites of the community and people affected, and thereafter, to the relevant host LGU or host region….”

The remaining 75 percent shall then “be dispatched to the grid so as not to unreasonably deprive other municipalities, cities, provinces, or regions of their energy requirements,” Section 6(b) of the DOE’s Energy Regulations 1-94 added.

The filing of the case pushed through even as the scheduled “Day of Mourning and Protest against Power Crisis,” organized by some city officials and government employees, was called off after a call from Local Government Secretary Jesse Robredo.

Mayor Rodolfo Gantuangco said Robredo wanted to meet the conveners of the Nagkakaisang Pinoy Kontra sa Brownout (Napikon sa Brownout) as President Benigno Aquino III does not want a rally.

Gantuangco admitted he has given the group a “go signal” to proceed with the rally last Friday but a call from Robredo changed what has been agreed upon.

He warned, however, that the group might continue with its plan should the negotiations with Robredo fail. (Sun.Star Davao/Sunnex)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/local-news/2012/04/28/energy-chief-others-sued-218769

^^^^^^Buti nga. ito kasi si Pnoy, tigas kukote, ayaw pa rin bitawan mga tanga at inutil nyang mga kampon tulad ni DOE Almendras at DTI secretary Domingo. Baka may pressure sa alma mater nila.:lol::lol::lol:

Love na rin pala nila ang Mt. Apo Geothermal Power Plant? Akala ko noon gagawa sila ng matagal na Dyandi upang hindi matutuloy yang mga plantang yan! Mahirap talagang intindihin ang mga tao.

BTW, I was informed Mt. Apo units each actually generate just 50MW. Do the math, and the available power to the local consumers as stipulated by law (25%) will only be 25MW. But they wanted 26MW! And the system load of Cotelco is 37MW! Pray tell those people in North Cotabato to believe that with this case prospering for their side will they be better of? 37MW minus 25MW is still 12MW short!

Love na rin pala nila ang Mt. Apo Geothermal Power Plant? Akala ko noon gagawa sila ng matagal na Dyandi upang hindi matutuloy yang mga plantang yan! Mahirap talagang intindihin ang mga tao.

BTW, I was informed Mt. Apo units each actually generate just 50MW. Do the math, and the available power to the local consumers as stipulated by law (25%) will only be 25MW. But they wanted 26MW! And the system load of Cotelco is 37MW! Pray tell those people in North Cotabato to believe that with this case prospering for their side will they be better of? 37MW minus 25MW is still 12MW short!

sue this one too.

One liner lang ba? Please try and disprove what is posted. If you can't, get a life!

One liner lang ba? Please try and disprove what is posted. If you can't, get a life!



don't worry him and his lawyers graduated enough of higher level to be able to justify that their computation resulted to 26MW equivalent to 25% as stipulated by law :ohno:

why bother arguing with your post with oh so elementary computation :lol:

besides I don't work to lick some oligarch's agenda :nuts:

go get electrocuted

:rofl:

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:
Egads! Lawyers graduated enough of higher levels computing!

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:
Egads! Lawyers graduated enough of higher levels computing!
:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious
Egads & gadesses!! I said lawyers justifying the computing!


get your grammar comprehension electrocuted.

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious
Egads & gadesses!! I said lawyers justifying the computing!


get your grammar comprehension electrocuted.

Math is the language of science. No amount of lawyering can justify any computation. Mathematicians "prove" things using numbers; they don't go to lawyers if figures don't jibe!

I bet you skipped your math classes before! Like I told you, get a life!:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

^^ ridiculous, hilarious attempt at deconstructing same branches in the Science of rationality and logic :nuts: :nuts:


would you rather further discuss the other unfathomable side of it so as to continually confound you instead just as Bohr did with Einstein on Quantum Mechanics and Heisenberg Principle and so I smash that puny argument of yours to eeny bits of subatomic particles?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:doh::doh::doh:

E-N-E-R-G-Y! A flash of the lightning to split the sky!

Give me give me gve me give me Energy, energy to burn!!!

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: cool lang guys :)

:doh::doh::doh:

E-N-E-R-G-Y! A flash of the lightning to split the sky!

Give me give me gve me give me Energy, energy to burn!!!


tuta kasi yan ng amo niyang gahamang oligarch na pollutant :nuts:

kung gusto nyo ang lugar nyo dungisan ang hangin at ang lupa hukayan ng toxic slug mula coal & other expensive, limiting fossil fuels para solusyon sa energy needs ng lugar nyo at etsapwera ang cleaner RE para sa blessings and profits ng among oligarchLORRRD na ang paa'y dinidilaan niya, kontakin nyo lang yan :nuts:

Bangui Windmill, Ilocos Norte

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582678_2891145330384_1612790914_31917037_1576095803_n.jpg
my photo

Wind farms may have warming effect: research (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/29/us-wind-farms-climate-idUSBRE83S0BG20120429)


Researchers at the State University of New York at Albany analysed the satellite data of areas around large wind farms in Texas, where four of the world's largest farms are located, over the period 2003 to 2011.

The results, published in the journal Nature Climate Change, showed a warming trend of up to 0.72 degrees Celsius per decade in areas over the farms, compared with nearby regions without the farms.

"We attribute this warming primarily to wind farms," the study said. The temperature change could be due to the effects of the energy expelled by farms and the movement and turbulence generated by turbine rotors, it said.

Wind farms may have warming effect: research (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/29/us-wind-farms-climate-idUSBRE83S0BG20120429)

hmm this is somewhat a contrary to the "green" energy resource from Windmills. Let's wait for further researches

naks, umiinit daw ang locality pag may wind farm:rofl:

^^ sus, oo umiinit pero grabe namang contribution un.. sobrang liit lng ng generator ng windmill sana kung isang buong powerplant un pwede pa... :lol:

Mainit naman talaga ang summer sa Texas :lol:

Bangui Windmill, Ilocos Norte

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582678_2891145330384_1612790914_31917037_1576095803_n.jpg
my photo

Kailangan ng maraming ganito.

Mas iinit kung magpapatayo ng coal plants keysa will mill. :):)


Baka paid research group na naman ito.Mga lobbyist at vested interests sa mundo will always pay for a pseudo-research just to destroy whatever alternatives discovered to replace certain products like oil and petroleum and other fossil fuel.:bash::bash::bash:

i do not know how did the results of that research came out that way. i dont see the correlation between heated engines from the windmills to the overall warming effect of the wind farm. Windmills do produce electricity but not heat. Kumbaga kapag correlation, 0 correlation siya

i do not know how did the results of that research came out that way. i dont see the correlation between heated engines from the windmills to the overall warming effect of the wind farm. Windmills do produce electricity but not heat. Kumbaga kapag correlation, 0 correlation siya

Basta may posibilidad na bumagsak ang fossil fuel related industries, maglalabasan ang mga research to preserve it and destroy alternatives.

Walang pinagkaiba sa alternative medicines, manufacturers of synthetic drug with their cahoots--medical doctors, med reps medical educators etc.--will find a way to destroy the the image of alternatives.


Sa Pinas nga lang, ginamit si Vic Sotto sa isang commercial ng isang synthetic drug manufacturer para siraan ang lagundi--which is gaining popularity among the consumers.

May mikrobyo daw sabi ni Vic sa commercial, ni wala namang scientific basis pero nilagyan kuno nang anmation para kapani-paniwala. E DOST ata ang may license ng gamot at minamanufacture naman ng highly respected local phama company tulad ng Pascual.


No wonder some dreaded diseases like diabetes walang cure kasi baka walang balak maghanap ng cure.


Ganun din sa energy and automotive, fossil fuel pa rin kahit may alternative.:bash::bash::bash:

i do not know how did the results of that research came out that way. i dont see the correlation between heated engines from the windmills to the overall warming effect of the wind farm. Windmills do produce electricity but not heat. Kumbaga kapag correlation, 0 correlation siya

http://express.howstuffworks.com/gif/wind-power-horizontal.gif

merun din namang prinoproduce na heat ung turbine generators due to friction, parang electric fan umiinit din.. kaso ung problema di naman yun sapat para uminit ng masyado ung environment.. masyado bang mababa yung elevation ng heaven para macontain lng yung heat sa baba? :lol: LOL. pagdating nga lng ng gabi aakyat na yung warm air.. well, windmill na siguro yung pinaka efficient na pagkunan ng power nowadays next only to solar panels...

http://express.howstuffworks.com/gif/wind-power-horizontal.gif

merun din namang prinoproduce na heat ung turbine generators due to friction, parang electric fan umiinit din.. kaso ung problema di naman yun sapat para uminit ng masyado ung environment.. masyado bang mababa yung elevation ng heaven para macontain lng yung heat sa baba? :lol: LOL. pagdating nga lng ng gabi aakyat na yung warm air.. well, windmill na siguro yung pinaka efficient na pagkunan ng power nowadays next only to solar panels...

I see it another way!

Wind cools the surface of the earth as it blows. The amount of heat being evacuated by the wind from the surface is function of the volume of cool air mass, the temperature differences (between the cool air and the surface being cooled), and the velocity at which the wind is blowing. Wind speed decreases a it passes thru those vanes (kinetic energy being absorbed by the machine and converted into electric power).

Therefore, it is possible for the local community "not being cooled" properly, the heat emanating from the activities done at the local community stays longer in the area resulting to a minimal temperature rise!

^^ and think, windmills are situated in the area in high wind speed! so its impossible for warm air to be situated or stacked in one place...

^^ and think, windmills are situated in the area in high wind speed! so its impossible for warm air to be situated or stacked in one place...

Not only that, they will cramp the area with those things!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/470wind-farm.jpg

Not only that, they will cramp the area with those things!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/470wind-farm.jpg

WTF.. the picture, its gonna be Global Warming! :lol:

Mahirap din kasing naka-hilira ang mga yan. YUng nasa huli maliit na lang ang power output!

http://www.popsci.com/files/imagecache/article_image_large/articles/horns_rev.jpg

LINK (http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-01/wind-turbines-leave-clouds-and-energy-inefficiency-their-wake)

Not only that, they will cramp the area with those things!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/470wind-farm.jpg

the photo looks like they're all cramped... those windmill bases are over 600 meters apart... :)

the photo looks like they're all cramped... those windmill bases are over 600 meters apart... :)
With 600 meters spacing, that's the farthest stretch on a design. Maybe you are referring to a bigger wind turbine with a rotor diameter of 60 meters (assuming a 10 times rotor diameters spacing).

BTW, Bangui Bay Wind Farm is stretched along a 9 kilometer shore line! The 20 units arranged in a single line means the distance between units could not have reached 600 meters (9,000/20 = 450 meters).

Bangui windmills are 236 meters apart

Bangui windmills are 236 meters apart
That's a welcomed confirmation! TY for the factual figure!

With 600 meters spacing, that's the farthest stretch on a design. Maybe you are referring to a bigger wind turbine with a rotor diameter of 60 meters (assuming a 10 times rotor diameters spacing).

BTW, Bangui Bay Wind Farm is stretched along a 9 kilometer shore line! The 20 units arranged in a single line means the distance between units could not have reached 600 meters (9,000/20 = 450 meters).

some mills at a wind farm in Grover, Colorado are over 600 meters apart...

Geothermal Power Plant Breaks Ground



By JAMES A. LOYOLA
May 2, 2012, 2:03am


MANILA, Philippines — The country’s first geothermal power station in five years, also the first under the current Aquino Administration, broke ground last Friday in Barangay San Rafael, Sto. Tomas, Batangas.

The plant is owned by Maibarara Geothermal, Inc. (MGI) which is 65 percent-owned by PetroGreen Energy Corporation, with Trans-Asia Oil & Energy Development Corporation (25 percent), and government-owned PNOC-RC (10 percent).

The 20 MW Maibarara geothermal power project is an integrated steamfield and power plant facility that is expected to be operational by late 2013. It is the country’s newest geothermal power plant after the 49 MW Northern Negros plant commissioned in 2007.

EEI Corporation is building the 1x20 MW power plant as EPC contractor with Fuji Electric of Japan supplying the major plant equipment and serving as the power plant O&M contractor. Design and construction of the steamfield pipelines are directly handled by MGI.

The company secured a P2.40 billion loan facility in September, 2011 from Rizal Commercial Banking Corporation (RCBC) and Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) to fund the construction of the Maibarara project’s steamfield pipelines, the power station, and the transmission facilities.

DOE Undersecretary Jay Layug said that the ground breaking for the 20 MW Maibarara geothermal project demonstrates firmly the Aquino administration’s focus and resolve in working with the private sector, local governments, and other national agencies to ensure the stability of the country’s power supply and infrastructure.

He added that aside from meeting Luzon Grid energy requirements, the Maibarara project will help in generating jobs, increasing tax revenues, and government royalties to host communities and local government units.

Maibarara Geothermal, Inc. is leasing two lots in Sto. Tomas, Batangas from the government to be used in the steam field operations of the Maibarara Geothermal Power Project.

MGI’s parent company PetroEnergy Resources Corporation said MGI has signed a land lease agreement with the National Power Corporation and the Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management Corporation for the two lots.

PetroEnergy said the lots are titled in Napocor’s name and the lease agreement was signed pursuant to the service contract awarded by Energy Department to Maibarara Geothermal, giving the company exclusive access and rights to conduct geothermal operations in the area.

The land lease agreement covers a period of 25 years, extendible for another 25 years upon mutual agreement of the parties.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/358531/geothermal-power-plant-breaks-ground

Chinese energy firm set to build P800M waste heat-powered power plant in Antipolo City

06-May-12, 3:08 PM | Philippine News Agency

ANTIPOLO CITY, Rizal -- A Chinese energy company will build an P800-million power plant in this city to help alleviate the country’s dependence on high-cost power sources as well as address the global problem of climate change, company officials said.

Cemex regional president for Asia Joaquin Miguel Estrada said the Cemex Group had earlier signed a power supply agreement with Sinoma Energy Conservation Ltd. of China for the construction of the waste heat-to-energy facility this year.

Estrada said Cemex is a company that wants to achieve a corporate objective of lower operational costs, and also pushing an agenda to lower the country's carbon footprint. “The project is proof positive of our commitment to sustainable development,” he said.

He explained that under the contract signed in Beijing, China early this year, Sinoma will design, build, operate and manage the six-megawatt power plant that uses a technology converting waste heat from the cement plant into usable electricity.

Estrada said the power plant project is not only the first waste heat recovery investment undertaking, which cooperates with Cemex Group, but also the first exploration of Chinese corporation investing in the construction of waste heat recovery power station overseas.

He said the Antipolo project is also a first for Sinoma outside China, with prospects of replicating it elsewhere in the world.

Cemex Philippines president Pedro Palomino said the P800-million power plant is also designed to capture excess heat from Solid Cement factory here, which has been experiencing power service interruptions over the years.

Palomino said the power plant project is consistent with its policy of pursuing expansion plans within the parameters of sustainable development.

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/31173/chinese-energy-firm-set-to-build-p800m-waste-heat-powered-power-plant-in-antipolo-city

interesting claim of home made solar panel (re)invention) as solution against exploitative power companies (the narrator talks too long though)

http://www.homemadeenergy.org/best/?hop=wtnet

Power Rates


MANILA, Philippines - Power industry players warn that the country's electricity rates, already one of the highest in Southeast Asia, could rise further.
Prepare for mild electrocution, folks.


***
The power rate hike will come the moment government withdraws tax incentives, says Ernesto B. Pantangco, president of the Philippine Independent Power Producers Association (PIPPA).
Planned withdrawal is bad for our health.


***
The Senate Ways and Means Committee should immediately harmonize 180 tax incentive-related laws and not withdraw them to avert power rate increase, the PIPPA head suggests.
Harmonize or jeopardize?


***
But while the fiscal incentive program perks up the economy, the tax holiday results in an annual revenue loss of P200 billion to P400 billion a year, laments Sen. Ralph G. Recto, Ways and Means Committee chairman.
Tax holiday or revenue loss? That is the question.


Resource here (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/power-rates-114808981.html;_ylt=AieW1Y4bigRFBoruI9F.7zXmV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTNhNmw1bG81BG1pdAMEcGtnA2EzZWM4NDdkLTFhMzUtM2MzOS1iYjBjLTAxZDdiMTYzNDBlNwRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbG5fTUJfZ2FsBHZlcgMyZjk5YzU3MC05NzlhLTExZTEtYjg2Yi1mZWRjZWQ0ZjlkZDY-;_ylv=3)...

Power Rates


MANILA, Philippines - Power industry players warn that the country's electricity rates, already one of the highest in Southeast Asia, could rise further.
Prepare for mild electrocution, folks.


***
The power rate hike will come the moment government withdraws tax incentives, says Ernesto B. Pantangco, president of the Philippine Independent Power Producers Association (PIPPA).
Planned withdrawal is bad for our health.


***
The Senate Ways and Means Committee should immediately harmonize 180 tax incentive-related laws and not withdraw them to avert power rate increase, the PIPPA head suggests.
Harmonize or jeopardize?


***
But while the fiscal incentive program perks up the economy, the tax holiday results in an annual revenue loss of P200 billion to P400 billion a year, laments Sen. Ralph G. Recto, Ways and Means Committee chairman.
Tax holiday or revenue loss? That is the question.


Resource here (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/power-rates-114808981.html;_ylt=AieW1Y4bigRFBoruI9F.7zXmV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTNhNmw1bG81BG1pdAMEcGtnA2EzZWM4NDdkLTFhMzUtM2MzOS1iYjBjLTAxZDdiMTYzNDBlNwRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbG5fTUJfZ2FsBHZlcgMyZjk5YzU3MC05NzlhLTExZTEtYjg2Yi1mZWRjZWQ0ZjlkZDY-;_ylv=3)...

SLAMAT oligarchLORRRD

Power Rates


MANILA, Philippines - Power industry players warn that the country's electricity rates, already one of the highest in Southeast Asia, could rise further.
Prepare for mild electrocution, folks.


***
The power rate hike will come the moment government withdraws tax incentives, says Ernesto B. Pantangco, president of the Philippine Independent Power Producers Association (PIPPA).
Planned withdrawal is bad for our health.


***
The Senate Ways and Means Committee should immediately harmonize 180 tax incentive-related laws and not withdraw them to avert power rate increase, the PIPPA head suggests.
Harmonize or jeopardize?


***
But while the fiscal incentive program perks up the economy, the tax holiday results in an annual revenue loss of P200 billion to P400 billion a year, laments Sen. Ralph G. Recto, Ways and Means Committee chairman.
Tax holiday or revenue loss? That is the question.


Resource here (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/power-rates-114808981.html;_ylt=AieW1Y4bigRFBoruI9F.7zXmV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTNhNmw1bG81BG1pdAMEcGtnA2EzZWM4NDdkLTFhMzUtM2MzOS1iYjBjLTAxZDdiMTYzNDBlNwRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbG5fTUJfZ2FsBHZlcgMyZjk5YzU3MC05NzlhLTExZTEtYjg2Yi1mZWRjZWQ0ZjlkZDY-;_ylv=3)...

The Power Oligopoly in the Philippines really wants this country to die.

San Miguel, Aboitiz, Lopez, First Pacific, Tokyo Electric, Kepco, Marubeni are a bunch of greedy profit oriented monsters!


And the pathetic DOE led by stupid Almendras is hapless and powerless fu*ks!:bash::bash::bash:

The Power Oligopoly in the Philippines really wants this country to die.

San Miguel, Aboitiz, Lopez, First Pacific, Tokyo Electric, Kepco, Marubeni are a bunch of greedy profit oriented monsters!


And the pathetic DOE led by stupid Almendras is hapless and powerless fu*ks!:bash::bash::bash:

And your offered solution is? What?

I was wondering how much does it cost to build a mini or pico hydro power plant. I live just a stone throw away from a river.

I was wondering how much does it cost to build a mini or pico hydro power plant. I live just a stone throw away from a river.
Here, watch this and get an idea how to do it:
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And your offered solution is? What?

Review and amend the EPIRA law.

Ikaw anung solution mo?

Seems you want the statusquo to stay. Kasama ka sa gang ng oligopoly ano?:bash::bash::bash:

Mindanao power crisis seen to ease after Napocor completes Pulangi plant rehab (http://www.interaksyon.com/article/31467/mindanao-power-crisis-seen-to-ease-after-napocor-completes-pulangi-plant-rehab)
09-May-12, 4:03 PM | Euan Paulo C. Anonuevo, InterAksyon.com


MANILA, Philippines - (UPDATED 5:12 p.m.) State-owned National Power Corp. (Napocor) has completed the rehabilitation of the Pulangi IV hydroelectric power plant in Bukidnon on Tuesday, or nine days ahead of the original target date of May 17.

With the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex supplying half of Mindanao's energy supply, the early completion of Pulangi IV would ease the tight electricity situation in the area.

"The repair significantly improves available generation capacity to meet the demand requirements of Mindanao," Energy Undersecretary Josefina Patricia M. Asirit said.

According to state-run National Electrification Administration, 22 out of the 27 electric cooperatives connected to the Mindanao grid suffered from supply disruptions before the Pulangi plant resumed operations. With an initial 150-megawatt capacity brought on stream, electric cooperatives hit by outages decreased to 14.

Froilan A. Tampinco, Napocor president, said the repair of the 26-year-old power plant was completed earlier than scheduled because of the concerted efforts of the company's operations personnel and Mamasar Construction, the contractor for the rehab project.

“Our plant personnel at Pulangi IV worked 24/7 with our private contractor to bring the power plant back online at the earliest time possible, and for this we commend them,” he added.

Official data from Napocor's Mindanao generation group show that Unit 1 of Pulangi IV was energized at 3:02 p.m. Tuesday, while Unit 2 went online at 5:15 p.m.. The third and final unit was synchronized to the Mindanao grid at 6:38 p.m.

With the repair work completed, Pulangi IV was producing 150 megawatts as of Wednesday morning. The power plant’s output is expected to increase to 200 megawatts in the afternoon before climbing to a maximum of 250 megawatts during the evening peak hours.

Review and amend the EPIRA law.

Ikaw anung solution mo?

Seems you want the statusquo to stay. Kasama ka sa gang ng oligopoly ano?:bash::bash::bash:

Which provisions in the EPIRA are you thinking that needs "revision"? Or maybe you're just taking a free-ride on the issues? It seems you're in the know? How much do you know?

Si Enrile lang ang solution jan sa away nyo:lol:

Vote for him in the next election:nuts:

Si Enrile lang ang solution jan sa away nyo:lol:

Vote for him in the next election:nuts:

Hahahaha! Hindi naman sa nag-aaway 'dre. Mahirap kasing magsasalita sa mga bagay-bagay na wala kang holistic comprehension! Ang sinasabi, lahat ng kapalpakan at pagtaas ng power rates ay dahil sa EPIRA. Tama kaya o guni-guni la'ang? Gustong lang naman nating malalaman kung saan at bakit naging palpak. Then people gets to know the solutions.

On the Enrile thing, he's got the intentions. But even how good intentions you have, if you don't study the matter and learn the bolts and nuts of it, good intentions are worthless, IMO.

Review and amend the EPIRA law.

Ikaw anung solution mo?

Seems you want the statusquo to stay. Kasama ka sa gang ng oligopoly ano?:bash::bash::bash:

I agree.:)

Which provisions in the EPIRA are you thinking that needs "revision"? Or maybe you're just taking a free-ride on the issues? It seems you're in the know? How much do you know?

How about you sir, what and how much do you know?:ohno:

If you really know something, at the very least you suggest something instead of making some useless noise.

Hahahaha! Hindi naman sa nag-aaway 'dre. Mahirap kasing magsasalita sa mga bagay-bagay na wala kang holistic comprehension! Ang sinasabi, lahat ng kapalpakan at pagtaas ng power rates ay dahil sa EPIRA. Tama kaya o guni-guni la'ang? Gustong lang naman nating malalaman kung saan at bakit naging palpak. Then people gets to know the solutions.

On the Enrile thing, he's got the intentions. But even how good intentions you have, if you don't study the matter and learn the bolts and nuts of it, good intentions are worthless, IMO.

Power rates are high. Its given. Perhaps it has something to do with the EPIRA law. Now, your claiming you are more knowledgeable. So what is your solution? You are just making vague pointless argument with no clear solution here.

Power rates are high. Its given. Perhaps it has something to do with the EPIRA law. Now, your claiming you are more knowledgeable. So what is your solution? You are just making vague pointless argument with no clear solution here.

Pointless, Y A! Who's claiming what? You don't know what you're talking! Tssssst, tsupeee!

Review and amend the EPIRA law.

Ikaw anung solution mo?

Seems you want the statusquo to stay. Kasama ka sa gang ng oligopoly ano?:bash::bash::bash:

I think you are right sir. This is the culprit pointed out by some people. perhaps Enrile et al should look at this.


Si Enrile lang ang solution jan sa away nyo:lol:

Vote for him in the next election:nuts:

Agree. Enrile is among the "suspect." But this trapo should not win anymore in future elections.

I agree.:)

How about you sir, what and how much do you know?:ohno:

If you really know something, at the very least you suggest something instead of making some useless noise.

Power rates are high. Its given. Perhaps it has something to do with the EPIRA law. Now, your claiming you are more knowledgeable. So what is your solution? You are just making vague pointless argument with no clear solution here.

True. Just making noises plain and simple.

Pointless, Y A! Who's claiming what? You don't know what you're talking! Tssssst, tsupeee!

Just what I expected another empty response.

Just talked to my aunt.

Her bill in Australia is $120 AUD

And that, is a bill for 3 MONTHS! :cry: :cry:

Just talked to my aunt.

Her bill in Australia is $120 AUD

And that, is a bill for 3 MONTHS! :cry: :cry:

Not bad! It's about the same as a small residence paying P1,700 per month (say 300 kWH per month) here in the Philippines. But if you can provide the average monthly demand (kilowatt-hours) of your aunt's house, maybe we could compare rates there with ours here.

^^ Sana nga... :cry:

She said their bills often come every 3 months. I have to check it thoroughly.

Something to think about:

Germany sets new solar power record, institute says

German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour - equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity - through the midday hours on Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank said.

The German government decided to abandon nuclear power after the Fukushima nuclear disaster last year, closing eight plants immediately and shutting down the remaining nine by 2022.

They will be replaced by renewable energy sources such as wind, solar and bio-mass.

Norbert Allnoch, director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry (IWR) in Muenster, said the 22 gigawatts of solar power per hour fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50 percent of the nation's midday electricity needs.

"Never before anywhere has a country produced as much photovoltaic electricity," Allnoch told Reuters. "Germany came close to the 20 gigawatt (GW) mark a few times in recent weeks. But this was the first time we made it over."

more... http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/26/us-climate-germany-solar-idUKBRE84P0FI20120526

Probably the next challenge is energy storage is and routing energy

Something to think about:



Probably the next challenge is energy storage is and routing energy

That's the iffy portion of this thing called electric energy. Energy storage is limited and dependent on the available technology. The Kalayaan -Kaliraya pump-storage system is just about 75% efficient, IIRC (you consume more energy pumping compared to the energy produced by generating the Kalayaan hydro).

Storage battery technology is still bulky and the battery materials are sourced from Chile, China, etc. not in the Philippines! Though the technology on HVDC and AC-DC /DC-AC conversion has already been proven, nobody has perfected the viability of battery-sourced generation tied up to the grid.

GNPower Coal Plant at Mariveles, Bataan

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6847/p1020106medium.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5089/p1020089qe.jpg

^^ w0w, that grane is so O.O

^^ wow, a solid assurance that Oligopoly under this coal financed HEPA administration will suck the already burdened ordinary power consumers with Asia's most expensive, big time this time as Peak Coal arrives with expected increase of this limited resource by as much as 600%


not to mention the Environmental degradation it brings despite the drummed propaganda of "clean coal" farce. It could even be predicted that previously typhoon free areas such as Mindanao and Davao will soon experience threatening typhoons as Sea Surface Temperature inevitably increase the moment coal plants operate in these areas courtesy of the HEPA administration's contribution to its election financiers in the coal industry otherwise already rejected from among less jejemonic countries.

Phl urged to adapt smart energy technology to lower power cost


By Donnabelle L. Gatdula (The Philippine Star) Updated June 04, 2012 12:00 AM Comments (0)

SANTA CLARA, California – Technology experts have urged the Philippines to adapt to the use of smart energy technologies to attain its goal of lowering electricity prices.

Wi-Fi Alliance technical director Greg Ennis, in an interview with The STAR on the sidelines of the Connectivity Week conference here, said there are available technologies in the market today such as Wi-Fi which is related to the development of the smart grid that would help power users in managing demand.

“It makes more sense to put Wi-Fi capability in smart energy technologies in homes such as in smart meters/appliances. This way, consumers can control the use of electricity wherever they are,” he said.

Wi-Fi is a popular technology that allows an electronic device to exchange data wirelessly (using radio waves) over a computer network, including high-speed Internet connections. The Wi-Fi Alliance defines Wi-Fi as any “wireless local area network (WLAN) products that are based on the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers’ (IEEE) 802.11 standards”.

“Wi-Fi is well suited for the use of basic smart tools and appliances and it also unlocks a much bigger opportunity for smart energy. Through Internet, Wi-Fi brings more to the smart grid initiatives” Ennis said.

He said the utilization of Wi-Fi in relation to the use of smart energy is currently being intensified worldwide.

Wi-Fi Alliance, for instance, had conducted a series of public demonstrations on a system called Smart Energy Profile 2 (SEP2) which is being universally adopted for in-premise smart energy applications.

“In SEP 2, the energy service interface (ESI) is the component that interfaces between outside world and the home’s smart energy devices. It could be implemented within a Wi-Fi access point or within a dedicated device. ESI essentially replays pricing signals, demand response events and other communications to the residential smart energy client devices. ESI could be connected to utility via meter or via Internet,” he explained.



Aside from demand side management, Ennis said using smart grid/energy would also help promote the utilization of renewable energy (RE) particularly wind and solar power.

“We really need to have a metering infrastructure that can deal with generators of electricity which are scattered all over the grid. It could help facilitate the sale of excess power in a grid-tied system. Smart meters are critical to that (RE development),” he said.

Ultimately, Ennis said, the use of such technology will also benefit citizens as energy prices keep rising. “If you will be able to manage your energy usage, eventually, you will realize savings,” he added.

Asked if the Wi-Fi Alliance would encourage the Philippines’ largest power distributor, Manila Electric Co. (Meralco), to incorporate the use of Wi-Fi technology in the company’s prepaid metering scheme, Ennis said: “Wi-Fi is already available in the market.”


http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=66&articleId=813728

Smells snake-oil to me!

Smells snake-oil to me!


just because it doesn't smell like your favorite coal master's scaly athlete's foot it doesn't mean it smells bad.

Smells snake-oil to me!

Clearly you are a defender of the oligopoly and anomaly in the power sector.:bash::bash:

just because it doesn't smell like your favorite coal master's scaly athlete's foot it doesn't mean it smells bad.

He is, based on his attacks on any post criticizing the power sector in the country.:bash:

Nah! Enlighten us more about using a 21st century gadget on a century old infrastructure? No clues?

and unbelievably mediocre in asking questions as well, seemingly too automated as even lacking some personal ingenuity in addressing it.

Very, true, indeed: "They Devil is in the Details!".

Nah! Enlighten us more about using a 21st century gadget on a century old infrastructure? No clues?

idiotic post.;

Very, true, indeed: "They Devil is in the Details!".

Nonsense from a nonsense guy.

and unbelievably mediocre in asking questions as well, seemingly too automated as even lacking some personal ingenuity in addressing it.

Indeed.

idiotic post.;



Nonsense from a nonsense guy.



Indeed.

Is that all you can muster? Maybe you are more knowledgeable on this Smart Grid thing? Say your beef, good buddy?

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=66&articleId=813728



There is difficulty in implementing smart grid technology on the distribution side

to the customer, foremost the acceptance considering the cost and to educate

the customer on the technology.:ohno:

There is difficulty in implementing smart grid technology on the distribution side

to the customer, foremost the acceptance considering the cost and to educate

the customer on the technology.:ohno:

Foremost, ours is an old electrical infra! When NPC bragged about SCADA before, we asked if the system operator can unilaterally adjust parameter settings of all remote generating/ point of common connection stations? We got a lot of answers but not a loud "YES"! It is therefore a SCADA with the "C" not active. C being "control" -> on a manual state!

That being the case, how much do we have to spend to achieve smart controllers/ management systems to control the system to attain the much ballyhooed "smart grid"? What good does it make having smart monitors/ metering apparatuses, when the system components cannot be made to respond and adjust by itself? Like I said, there are many cures being sold out there. One of them is snake oil, claiming to cure all ailments, but does it?

Bluntly, we have a mismatch between the infrastructure and this smart technology being peddled. You be the judge!

Suntech, Propmech install 571kW rooftop installation at ADB’s Manila headquarters

http://www.pv-tech.org/images/sized/assets/images/Suntech_adb-roof-600x0.jpg
ADB's rooftop installation will generate 600MWh of electricity per year. Image: Business Enquirer

Suntech Power Holdings and Propmech advised that they had completed the installation of a 571kW rooftop solar project on Asian Development Bank’s (ADB) headquarters in Manila, Philippines. Using Suntech solar modules, and installed and integrated by Propmech, the solar array will produce over 600MWh of solar electricity per year. The companies note that this is the largest rooftop solar installation in the Philippines.

"We are excited to partner with Propmech and to inaugurate ADB's rooftop solar installation. This solar installation demonstrates that with innovative solar products and collaboration among bankable partners, solar can provide a cost-effective solution for electricity generation across Southeast Asia," commented Dr. Zhengrong Shi, founder, chairman and CEO of Suntech.

http://www.pv-tech.org/news/suntech_propmech_install_571kw_rooftop_installation_at_adbs_manila_headquar?utm_source=newsnow&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=newsnow-feed

^^Pure awesomeness! They have been funding green power generation for the region and this is a great demonstration of them practicing it.

Foremost, ours is an old electrical infra! When NPC bragged about SCADA before, we asked if the system operator can unilaterally adjust parameter settings of all remote generating/ point of common connection stations? We got a lot of answers but not a loud "YES"! It is therefore a SCADA with the "C" not active. C being "control" -> on a manual state!

That being the case, how much do we have to spend to achieve smart controllers/ management systems to control the system to attain the much ballyhooed "smart grid"? What good does it make having smart monitors/ metering apparatuses, when the system components cannot be made to respond and adjust by itself? Like I said, there are many cures being sold out there. One of them is snake oil, claiming to cure all ailments, but does it?

Bluntly, we have a mismatch between the infrastructure and this smart technology being peddled. You be the judge!


simple and easy:D
scrap the old one and install the smart ass thingy:lol:

the thing is, the consumers will pay the new technology infrastructure:nuts:

It's like upgrading an old Pentium PC to Core i7, walang matira sa luma kundi ang end user:lol::lol::lol:

simple and easy:D
scrap the old one and install the smart ass thingy:lol:

the thing is, the consumers will pay the new technology infrastructure:nuts:

It's like upgrading an old Pentium PC to Core i7, walang matira sa luma kundi ang end user:lol::lol::lol:

Hahahaha! Sobra naman yan. Linya na lang siguro ang maiwang luma dya'an!

Foremost, ours is an old electrical infra! When NPC bragged about SCADA before, we asked if the system operator can unilaterally adjust parameter settings of all remote generating/ point of common connection stations? We got a lot of answers but not a loud "YES"! It is therefore a SCADA with the "C" not active. C being "control" -> on a manual state!

That being the case, how much do we have to spend to achieve smart controllers/ management systems to control the system to attain the much ballyhooed "smart grid"? What good does it make having smart monitors/ metering apparatuses, when the system components cannot be made to respond and adjust by itself? Like I said, there are many cures being sold out there. One of them is snake oil, claiming to cure all ailments, but does it?

Bluntly, we have a mismatch between the infrastructure and this smart technology being peddled. You be the judge!



Its doable to implement this smart grid technology in urban areas such as

metro manila. In fact meralco (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/30/12/meralco-launch-smart-grid-2013) are planning to implement it on 2013.

Suntech, Propmech install 571kW rooftop installation at ADB’s Manila headquarters

http://www.pv-tech.org/images/sized/assets/images/Suntech_adb-roof-600x0.jpg
ADB's rooftop installation will generate 600MWh of electricity per year. Image: Business Enquirer

Suntech Power Holdings and Propmech advised that they had completed the installation of a 571kW rooftop solar project on Asian Development Bank’s (ADB) headquarters in Manila, Philippines. Using Suntech solar modules, and installed and integrated by Propmech, the solar array will produce over 600MWh of solar electricity per year. The companies note that this is the largest rooftop solar installation in the Philippines.

http://www.pv-tech.org/news/suntech_propmech_install_571kw_rooftop_installation_at_adbs_manila_headquar?utm_source=newsnow&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=newsnow-feed

The Philippine government can start a sort of project like this also.Starting with Malacanang, Dept of Energy and BSP.

Its double to implement this smart grid technology in urban areas such as

metro manila. In fact meralco (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/30/12/meralco-launch-smart-grid-2013) are planning to implement it on 2013.

AFAIK, Meralco is into "pre-paid" electric distribution! Meralco doesn't want a repeat of charging the customers for metering and then being ordered to refund later.

http://business.inquirer.net/64029/psalm-seeks-to-hike-power-rates-in-luzon-visayas

State-run Power Sector Assets and Liabilities Management Corp. seeks to increase electricity rates in Luzon and the Visayas to recover from consumers P3.85 billion in foreign exchange related and fuel and purchased power costs.

When will there be ENOUGH for them.

wow, sarap siguro mag negosyo sa power sector:D

wow, sarap siguro mag negosyo sa power sector:D

Tama! Saan ka makakita ng negosyo na assured ka ng xx percent profit plus deductions on taxable amount on some items plus they can include projected performance improvement cost on their rate setting (performance-based rate making) and a lot more avenues to profit!

Bili ka na lang kaya ng stocks! Wag nang mag-problema paano magpatakbo ng kompaniya!:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

what do u think guys?
concentrated solar power in the philippines?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_solar_power

is it possible? given the weather..? are there western parts of the country mostly sunny?
this can be good in palawan..western half of the country,maybe the hottest regions in the philippines to maximize output..

what do u think guys?
concentrated solar power in the philippines?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_solar_power

is it possible? given the weather..? are there western parts of the country mostly sunny?
this can be good in palawan..western half of the country,maybe the hottest regions in the philippines to maximize output..
Nope. Palawan was raining cats and dogs for the past four days now! Maybe because the media is not including Palawan in the daily news weather forecasts resulting to your distorted assumption! We need to find correct weather data/ pattern to arrive at a serious feasibility assessment here.

As much as i want to post it in science thread, but i think its more appropriate in
this thread.

wdOvS-3e0MQ&feature
MINESTO (http://www.minesto.com/deepgreentechnology/index.html)

:cool:


How it works
Basically, the Deep Green “underwater kite” is a generator mounted on a wing, with a tether keeping it attached to the seabed. A rudder operates the wing, keeping it swinging in circles or in figures of eight. The generated current is passed through a wire within the tether. Clusters of units operate together as one power plant.

The tidal kite looks like a very a simple, ingenious design, a lightweight system that accelerates the current velocity by a factor ten, making tidal power operable in low current velocities. “We are increasing the potential tidal energy market with as much as 80% in regions located all over the world,” Anders Jansson, CEO and cofounder of Minestro, states on their web site.

Design advantages
The design solves many of the problems which tidal energy has been struggling with:
It utilizes low velocity currents meaning slow-moving water while other solutions need so called hot spots where the tides are strong. These are rare compared to the waters in which the kite can be deployed.
It’s a direct drive design, the swinging motions keep it at the optimal speed – no gearbox is required.
It can be installed at comparably large depths, 50-300 meters below the surface, which leads to 80% more exploitable area according to Minesto.
No tower is needed, making it easy to deploy offshore and less of an eyesore on the horizon.
Simpler construction using less material compared to other tidal solutions.
It’s easily maintainable, with a comparably low weight.
It can operate on all continents, at low tidal velocities and with ocean currents.

Data for the latest model
Power generation is rated at 850KW at 1.7m/s current velocity or more.
Up to 16 units can be deployed per square km (~0.4 square miles).
Clearance is 14-18m or more, meaning even container ships can pass over it.
The estimated lifespan is at least 20 years.

As much as i want to post it in science thread, but i think its more appropriate in
this thread.

wdOvS-3e0MQ&feature
MINESTO (http://www.minesto.com/deepgreentechnology/index.html)

:cool:


How it works
Basically, the Deep Green “underwater kite” is a generator mounted on a wing, with a tether keeping it attached to the seabed. A rudder operates the wing, keeping it swinging in circles or in figures of eight. The generated current is passed through a wire within the tether. Clusters of units operate together as one power plant.

The tidal kite looks like a very a simple, ingenious design, a lightweight system that accelerates the current velocity by a factor ten, making tidal power operable in low current velocities. “We are increasing the potential tidal energy market with as much as 80% in regions located all over the world,” Anders Jansson, CEO and cofounder of Minestro, states on their web site.

Design advantages
The design solves many of the problems which tidal energy has been struggling with:
It utilizes low velocity currents meaning slow-moving water while other solutions need so called hot spots where the tides are strong. These are rare compared to the waters in which the kite can be deployed.
It’s a direct drive design, the swinging motions keep it at the optimal speed – no gearbox is required.
It can be installed at comparably large depths, 50-300 meters below the surface, which leads to 80% more exploitable area according to Minesto.
No tower is needed, making it easy to deploy offshore and less of an eyesore on the horizon.
Simpler construction using less material compared to other tidal solutions.
It’s easily maintainable, with a comparably low weight.
It can operate on all continents, at low tidal velocities and with ocean currents.

Data for the latest model
Power generation is rated at 850KW at 1.7m/s current velocity or more.
Up to 16 units can be deployed per square km (~0.4 square miles).
Clearance is 14-18m or more, meaning even container ships can pass over it.
The estimated lifespan is at least 20 years.
Any working pilot power unit like this? If all that is claimed are true, many would buy this thing, ora mismo!

^^

Their website (http://www.minesto.com/technologydevelopment/index.html) says, they will deploy Deep Green array in 2015 at 3 MW and

increase it to 10 MW.Presently, what i understand it is still on trial stages.