New thread: Germany - Castles, Palaces, Fortresses (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1075575)


1.Park Sanssouci
http://www.planet-gericke.de/potsdam/images/DSC03409.jpg
1b.
http://www.courses.psu.edu/nuc_e/nuc_e405_g9c/potsdam/park/sanssoucin1.jpg
2.
3.
http://www.courses.psu.edu/nuc_e/nuc_e405_g9c/potsdam/park/schlosssanssouci.jpg
4.
http://www.courses.psu.edu/nuc_e/nuc_e405_g9c/potsdam/park/sanssoucin2.jpg
5.
http://www.fotoblick.de/1024/neues_palais_1024.jpg
6.
7.Neues palais potsdam
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/NeuesPalais.jpg/800px-NeuesPalais.jpg
8.Nymphenburg Palace, Munich (Amalienburg)
http://www.muenchen-tourist.de/img/bildarchiv/winter/amalienburg.jpg
8a.
http://www.muenchen-tourist.de/img/bildarchiv/winter/schloss.jpg
8b.
http://www.muenchen-tourist.de/img/bildarchiv/winter/schwaene.jpg
9.
10.schleissheim palace, Munich
http://www.pierluigisurace.it/imagerie/images/aatw/DOT_Germany_II_Munich_Schleissheim_Palace.jpg
11.Schloss Charlottenburg, Berlin.
http://www.aac-berlin.de/luftbild/luft300899-03-09%20schloss%20charlottenburg%20otto-suhr-allee%20ft.jpg
12.
http://www.aip.de/image_archive/images/charlottenburg_018.jpg
13.
14.Linderhof Palace, Bavaria.
http://www.oatg.org/docs/Exchanges/Photos-Kulmbach/Linderhof.JPG
14a.
http://www.end.com/~jynx/travel/europe/konig/linderhof/03linderhof.jpg
14b.
http://www.end.com/~jynx/travel/europe/konig/linderhof/02linderhof.jpg
15.
http://www.end.com/~jynx/travel/europe/konig/linderhof/01pool.jpg
16.
http://www.end.com/~jynx/travel/europe/konig/linderhof/04statue.jpg
17. Karlsruhe palace.
18.Schwerin palace/castle.
http://www.fair-pr.com/meet-aae/bunsen2005/impressions/pictures/b%20Schwerin%20Castle%20II_jpg.jpg
19.
http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~oscar/fotos/NortheastGermany/images/SchwerinCastle.jpg
20.Ludwigslust palace.
http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~oscar/fotos/NortheastGermany/images/Ludwigslust.jpg
21. Zwinger Palace, Dresden.
http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~oscar/fotos/NortheastGermany/images/Dresden5.jpg
22. Chiemsee Schloss, Bavaria.
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/schlossen/herrench.jpg
23.
http://www.caf.dlr.de/caf/satellitendaten/missionen/ikonos/x_images/herrenchiemsee_721x721.jpg
24.
http://www.foto-reisen.info/fotos/Deutschland/Herrenchiemsee/800x600/3919.jpg
25.
26.
http://pop85.hp.infoseek.co.jp/photos/2003/20030423-0502_germany/20030428_chiemsee_schloss_herrenchiemsee_whole.jpg
27.Schloss Lustheim, Munich
28.
29. Schloss Ansbach, Bavaria.
http://www.hme-schaltanlagen.de/Referenzobjekte/Schloss_AN.jpg
30. Schloss Johannisburg.
http://www.djtravel.homestead.com/files/Aschaffenburg_-_Schloss_Johannisburg.jpg
31.Neues Schloss Bayreuth.
http://www.steingraeber.de/links/english/pic_neues_schloss_2.jpg
32.
http://www.boldts.net/photos/D-fr-Bayreuth.jpeg
33.Shloss Neuburg
http://www.bergheim-bayern.de/Links/pics/ND_gr_1.jpg
34.Wurzburg residenz.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/architecture/slide/ghirardo/CD2/060-CD2.jpg
35.
http://www.dsingley.com/europe97/images/100/Residence_rear_garden.jpg
36. Schloss Ludwigsburg
http://www.hembrook.com/travel/germany/ludwigsburg/IMG_0089.JPG
37.
http://www.hembrook.com/travel/germany/ludwigsburg/IMG_0090.JPG
38.
http://www.hembrook.com/travel/germany/ludwigsburg/IMG_0091.JPG
39.
http://www.hembrook.com/travel/germany/ludwigsburg/IMG_0088.JPG
40. Schloss Mannheim.
41. Schloss Rastatt
http://www.tuerkenbeute.de/media/il4_illuWindow/D6-2Auss_00_il4_460x319.jpg
42.
43. Hohenschwangau bavaria.
42a.
http://www.sanseira.de/uni/img/Schwgau02.JPG
44.
http://www.passagierfluege.net/images/TegelGross/hohenschwinter.jpg
45.
http://homepage.mac.com/yasushikatayama/aachen/photoalbum/photoalbum-Images/25.jpg
46.
http://david.von-oheimb.de/gallery/MOD1999/Hohenschwangau_East.jpeg
46b.
http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~ae223/images/Photos/Europe%202000/11-Konigswinkel/11%20Konigswinkel%20009%20-%20Hohenschwangau%20-%20Gateway%20.jpg
47.Neuschwanstein
http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/Documents/fog-ch-neuschwanstein.jpg
49.
http://www.teleskopselbstbau.de/Neuschwanstein_Eingang.jpg
50.
http://www.pics.kaybee.org:81/Vacations/Europe1997/Germany/Neuschwanstein/.thumbs/large-castle_snow.jpg

beautiful buildings

great one. i had a book about german castles and palaces and even though your collection is impressive, it just shows a fraction of what exists in germany

Great pictures.

du hast Wurtzburg Schloss vergesen. I was there this summer and its amazing, Napolean spent a night there.

@WHOLAGUN

check No.34!! :)


http://www.castles.org/castles/Europe/Central_Europe/Germany/Nymphenburg/monaco2.jpg

http://www.galen-frysinger.ws/germany/nymphenburg01.jpg

http://www.aip.de/image_archive/images/klausberg_belvedere.jpg

http://www.aip.de/image_archive/images/klausberg_sunset_1.jpg

http://www.aip.de/image_archive/images/potsdam_teehaus_1.jpg

http://www.aip.de/image_archive/images/schloss_babelsberg_2.jpg

http://www.schlegel-at-web.de/Bilder/pd2003/cec18.jpg

opps I didn't see it.

I'll get the pics from my summer trip to Gemrany and post a few pics of palaces.

Berliner Stadtschloss........future palace!


http://www.modocom.de/belfas/schlossgross.jpg

she'll be a big one thats for sure.

If it's ever going to be built!

http://www.eldaco.net/admin/ref/pic_ref/gross/20040621204415.jpg

http://www.eldaco.net/admin/ref/pic_ref/gross/20040621230143.jpg

http://www.eldaco.net/admin/ref/pic_ref/gross/20040621204525.jpg

http://www.eldaco.net/admin/ref/pic_ref/gross/20040621204543.jpg

http://www.eldaco.net/admin/ref/pic_ref/gross/20040621204449.jpg

http://www.eldaco.net/admin/ref/pic_ref/gross/20040621204435.jpg

http://www.eldaco.net/admin/ref/pic_ref/gross/20040621204507.jpg

Schloss Johannisburg >>> where is it?!

Schloss Johannisburg is Aschaffenburg, a very nice city in nothern Bavaria.

http://www.aschaffenburg.de/wEnglish/english_03.php

These palaces are so well maintained, Germany is really great. Even this Bavarian city Aschaffenburg is so nice, no wonder a king choose to live there! Knutus thanks for the link.

Fantastic palaces. There are museums? public or privat estates? How do you think - which one is most "german"? (i mean architektur:))

Absoulutely magnificent!

Berliner Stadtschloss was a great palace,I hope they rebuilt it!

Beautiful!

Schwerin castle looks like something out of a fairytale! :)

Awesome!

Does anybody know where that movie where eagles there was shot?Was it in Germany/Austria or somewhere else?It looked magnificent in the movie.

Ups i made mistake it was actually where eagles dare with Clint Eastwood...

you forgot thousends of palaces and castles (nordkirchen, celle, hannover,...) - but i know - there are far too many to list them all!

some other palaces that will probably be reconstructed soon:

braunschweig palace:
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI04141e13b.jpg
(source: www.bildindex.de)

potsdam castle / palace:
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI13075a14b.jpg
(source: www.bildindex.de)

Almost like Versailles... The palace on the island...

It was mad king Ludwig's copy of Versailles. He built it so he could fantasise about being a mighty absolute monarch - somewhat inappropriate in Bavaria in the second half of the 19th century.

@Nemo, Great pictures :okay:

The former royal residence Schloss Ludwigsburg is at least that much a good copy of Versailles than Herrenchiemsee.
From above at Google-Maps (http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=ludwigsburg&sll=51.151786,10.415039&sspn=24.737261,53.4375&ie=UTF8&ll=48.90063,9.197423&spn=0.003153,0.006523&t=h&z=18)
With its 452 rooms it is supposed to be Germanys largest palace.

Indoors it is full of splendor. Moreover for its 300 year anniversary about 100 Mio € restauration was completed this year.

Castle Church (still used for marriages)
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/schwaben/schloesser/ludwigsburg/schlosski1.jpg

Theater (still used as well)
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/schwaben/schloesser/ludwigsburg/theat1.jpg

Marble Hall
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/schwaben/schloesser/ludwigsburg/marmorsaal.jpg

inner castle courtyard
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/schwaben/schloesser/ludwigsburg/corpdl2.jpg

Throne Room
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/schwaben/schloesser/ludwigsburg/ordensaal1.jpg

Eastern Corridor
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/schwaben/schloesser/ludwigsburg/galost3.jpg

Western Corridor
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/schwaben/schloesser/ludwigsburg/galwest1.jpg


The whole site is including a myths and botanic garden called "Blooming Baroque" and two further small palaces.

Emichsburg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Emichsburg_Ludwigsburg_von_Westen.jpg/480px-Emichsburg_Ludwigsburg_von_Westen.jpg

Unspectacular part of the garden
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Rosen_am_Schloss_Ludwigsburg.jpg/741px-Rosen_am_Schloss_Ludwigsburg.jpg

Favorite (Hunting)
http://www.ludwigsburg.de/servlet/PB/show/1037414_l1/favorite400_220.jpg

Monrepos (Water)
http://www.ludwigsburg.de/servlet/PB/show/1037416_l1/monrepos400_220e.jpg

wonderful :runaway:
I want more!!please :)

Beautiful architecture. More pictures plz!

OMG. I love the architecture.

Schwetzingen Palace near Mannheim/Heidelberg with its particularly amazing garden including temples, ruins and even a mosque.

http://www.schwetzingen.de/documents/40daabd9a0ba53.61397116/luft_cirkel_low.jpg

http://www.schloesser-magazin.de/image/objekte/schw/schw27.jpg http://www.schloesser-magazin.de/image/objekte/schw/schw29.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/9/91/Schwetzingen01.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/1/1c/Schwetzingen02.jpg


More Infos: Palace (http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/sweslo01.htm)

http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/swe00.jpg http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/luftbild3.jpg
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/swe_the1.jpg


More Infos: Park (http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/swepar01.htm)

http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/wasserkast4.jpg http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/vogelbad1.jpg
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/bruecke.jpg http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/merkur7.jpg
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/wasser/botanik.jpg http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/wiesental.jpg
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/laube3.jpghttp://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/hirsch2.jpg
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/moschee/mosch10.jpg http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/vogelbad4.jpg
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/bad11.jpg http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/minerva3.jpg
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/theat2.jpg http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/swetz/park/merkur3.jpg


The Park is supposed to qualify the whole site for the UNESCO World Heritage list in the near future.

It's amazing... :)

the schwetzingen palace park rocks. i visited it some years ago (neither for having sex nor drinking alcohol though)

Sure, or is it that you can´t remember?

The castles are very beautiful,and impressive Like Polish Castles and Palaces ... I travel through Germany, I spend 1 week here then 3 weeks in Poland ...

As I see, Germany and Poland have some of the most beautiful castles and palaces in Europe.

I observe too, that Germany has many castles but Poland seems to have much more and palaces ... we travel through berlin-poznan-leszno-wroclaw... and near Poznan we stay 1 week to visit some, and in so few time we see 35-40 of them in 20 km around this city, and near wroclaw, the same number ... incredible ... and most of them were restored and so beautiful and very very big ... not littles palaces but most of them were huge ...

In France where I live we have maybe 3 or 4 castles in 50 km around our city but not so a big number (35-40 ) like in Poland ... I could not believe ... I learn in lonely planet guide that Silesia and Wielkapolska have the biggest numbers of castles & palaces in all of Europe ... You need 3 month to see them all in only this two region ... and here number really mean beautiful ... most of them have a great architecture and inside were also impressive ... many of them are luxurious hotels ... you can enter inside and see how it's look like ... and others are museums with very beautiful insides ... one of them was Pszczyna, never in France I see such a beautiful Palaces ... but it wasn't alone so beautiful ... Lancut whaaa ... and many many others ...

germany and poland are so beautiful country ... I observe that this two country are more similar than germany & france ... it seems that they have more in common that france & germany ...

I love Europe ... the most beautiful of all continents maybe not in nature but of course in architecture ...

We have little time, so we only could visit 6 interiors of Polish Palaces, I will never forget this ... it was so beautiful, in others we stay 5 minutes because they were hotels ... or private homes ...

The castles are very beautiful,and impressive Like Polish Castles and Palaces ... I travel through Germany, I spend 1 week here then 3 weeks in Poland ...

As I see, Germany and Poland have some of the most beautiful castles and palaces in Europe.

I observe too, that Germany has many castles but Poland seems to have much more and palaces ...

Although in Poland we have quite a lot, I bet Germany has more palaces and castles than Polnad.

Big part of today's Poland belonged to Germany for many centuries this is why the architecture is similar.

BTW German palaces are amazing :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Although in Poland we have quite a lot, I bet Germany has more palaces and castles than Polnad.

Big part of today's Poland belonged to Germany for many centuries this is why the architecture is similar.

BTW German palaces are amazing :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


No no, in many guides is written that is poland in this region !
( region : germany + central europe + austria ) ... never in bavaria you can find 40 palaces in all 20 km ...

Where i were in Poland, i were surprise because polish peoples seems not really know well their country, when i say to a polish friend that mazurias was one of the most beautiful region in Europe, he don't beleive me !!!

... and when i show him the photo of the castle of pszczyna he think it was in france .... haw can it be possible ... many polish are so well educated and many of you really don't know your country ... sometime tourists in poland know much than polish peoples about your beautiful nature, cities ... and the most funny and sad I think is that when you say to a polish people that the country he lives is very beautiful, he never belive ... what happen to you, that even you don't believe foreigners or tourist ... ?

No no, in many guides is written that is poland in this region !
( region : germany + central europe + austria ) ... never in bavaria you can find 40 palaces in all 20 km ...

Where i were in Poland, i were surprise because polish peoples seems not really know well their country, when i say to a polish friend that mazurias was one of the most beautiful region in Europe, he don't beleive me !!!

... and when i show him the photo of the castle of pszczyna he think it was in france .... haw can it be possible ... many polish are so well educated and many of you really don't know your country ... sometime tourists in poland know much than polish peoples about your beautiful nature, cities ... and the most funny and sad I think is that when you say to a polish people that the country he lives is very beautiful, he never belive ... what happen to you, that even you don't believe foreigners or tourist ... ?

I think I know Poland quite well ;)

I agree that there are areas (for example Lower Silesia) with many castles and palaces.

It might be true that Lower Silesia has the highest number of castles and palaces per 1 sq km, but I wouldn't say that total number of castles and palaces in Poland is bigger than for example in Germany.

I think I know Poland quite well ;)

I agree that there are areas (for example Lower Silesia) with many castles and palaces.

It might be true that Lower Silesia has the highest number of castles and palaces per 1 sq km, but I wouldn't say that total number of castles and palaces in Poland is bigger than for example in Germany.


I don't Know, it's written like this in many guides so I think that it is impossible that they lie in so many guides ... and they speak about all region ( germany, austri + all central europe ) and not alone silesia per km ...

These pictures are superb, on another point the destruction of the Palace in Berlin has to be one of the great architectural crimes of the 20th century.

( region : germany + central europe + austria ) ... never in bavaria you can find 40 palaces in all 20 km ......adds up to about 30.000 palaces in Poland.

In France where I live we have maybe 3 or 4 castles in 50 km around our city but not so a big number (35-40 ) like in Poland ... results in about 5000.

Sorry, I doubt that numbers by far.
And what is the explanation since those uncountable palaces had to be financed and build? Poland wasn´t that rich throughout history to afford this.
Last but not least: Where are the pics?

There are other points to go into detail. For example that the former Prussian land in the East wasn´t Prussias centre (which was Berlin) and populated for a large part below average. Hence one would expect there rather less palaces.

In Germany you will find the most palaces (not talking about larger villas with some pillars put in front and the like but something worthy to be called "palace") near former kingdoms which were
Bavaria (Munich),
Prussia (Berlin),
Saxony (Dresden) and
Württemberg (Stuttgart & close-by Ludwigsburg).
Not to forget Vienna in today´s Austria.
Besides there were some powerful principalities like Baden (Karlsruhe) or Welfen (Hannover).

Probably the competition between principalities in the very federal Germany is an important reason for large palaces in every residence.

Amazingly other big and historic relevant cities as Cologne (No 4) or Hamburg (No 2 population) haven´t served as profane residences and miss palaces. Instead you will find lots of adorable churches due to clerical impact in Cologne, whereas Hamburg is famous for rich merchant´s houses due to it´s Hanseatic era. Frankfurt as German´s number 5 has also never been residence of a prominent dynasty.

Of course there are palaces scattered all-over the country in Germany as well. But for all the above I consider the mentioned towns to hold a significant higher density and/or grandiosity regarding palaces.

Stuttgart: Pano with Königsbau-Passagen, New Palace and new Art Museum (http://www.stuttgart360.de/panorama.php?mov=koenigsbau_01&t=1127554980&titel=Königsbau&motiv=01)

...adds up to about 30.000 palaces in Poland.

... results in about 5000.

Sorry, I doubt that numbers by far.
And what is the explanation since those uncountable palaces had to be financed and build? Poland wasn´t that rich throughout history to afford this.
Last but not least: Where are the pics?

There are other points to go into detail. For example that the former Prussian land in the East wasn´t Prussias centre (which was Berlin) and populated for a large part below average. Hence one would expect there rather less palaces.

In Germany you will find the most palaces (not talking about larger villas with some pillars put in front and the like but something worthy to be called "palace") near former kingdoms which were
Bavaria (Munich),
Prussia (Berlin),
Saxony (Dresden) and
Württemberg (Stuttgart & close-by Ludwigsburg).
Not to forget Vienna in today´s Austria.
Besides there were some powerful principalities like Baden (Karlsruhe) or Welfen (Hannover).

Probably the competition between principalities in the very federal Germany is an important reason for large palaces in every residence.

Amazingly other big and historic relevant cities as Cologne (No 4) or Hamburg (No 2 population) haven´t served as profane residences and miss palaces. Instead you will find lots of adorable churches due to clerical impact in Cologne, whereas Hamburg is famous for rich merchant´s houses due to it´s Hanseatic era. Frankfurt as German´s number 5 has also never been residence of a prominent dynasty.

Of course there are palaces scattered all-over the country in Germany as well. But for all the above I consider the mentioned towns to hold a significant higher density and/or grandiosity regarding palaces.

Stuttgart: Pano with Königsbau-Passagen, New Palace and new Art Museum (http://www.stuttgart360.de/panorama.php?mov=koenigsbau_01&t=1127554980&titel=Königsbau&motiv=01)



Ah stop please, you want be more clever that peoples who written the travel books ???

not 5000 .... but much much more ....

you can write whatever you want, but it will change nothing because in many books what i said is written, so book lie and you said the real true ???

sorry i believe books ...

i have pictures but i haven't scan at home ...

Sorry again me,

Wawel castle is one of the most inestimable buildings in Europe like Malbork
and the last one even built by Germans, you haven't in Germany structures who have 1000 years ...and look like that ... like Wawel ...

About palaces, castles ... you forget one thing that Poland was one among the richest country in Europe in the past ( 14 -17 centuries ) and even the war stared in the past and Poland lost her influence, architecture still go on ...
and even in period when Poland wasn't so rich ... many palaces were built ... and everywhere in the country ...

Ah stop please, you want be more clever that peoples who written the travel books ??? It´s absolutely possible that somebody being more clever than me errs at a specific point.
That´s called "logic".


not 5000 .... but much much more...Sure you ever saw a real PALACE? ;)


sorry i believe books ... Mistake. With such a firm attitude you only use your eyes while reading whereas I utilize my brain too.
Authors are merely humans as well - and to err is human.

Ever heard of extensive arguments between very wise professors having totally different standpoints on one topic?
So the questions emerges: Which books do you believe?

What about the source, can you cite, especially the X palaces in Y km-distance?


i have pictures but i haven't scan at home ...I bet in the country of many thousands of palaces somebody has scanner or camera.


About palaces, castles ... you forget one thing that Poland was one among the richest country in Europe in the past ( 14 -17 centuries ) and even the war stared in the past and Poland lost her influence, architecture still go on ...
and even in period when Poland wasn't so rich ... many palaces were built ... and everywhere in the country ...It is now really starting to become ridiculous. Your eagerness in honor, but imagination of rich other European countries paralyzed by poor not-14-17 Poland building masses of glamorous palaces and therefore stopping own building activity is sort of funny. Keep in mind we are talking about density!

Since this thread is intented as a picturesque discussion on German Palaces I´d like to ask you to continue the discussion concerning Polish palaces - or what your books regard as palaces - in another thread. Basically I like people loving their own country and being proud of its sights. Good reasons for that. But don´t exaggerate or become blind to facts! Facts are naturally independent from their adaption to books. Hence facts are often but not always compatible to what is written in books.

cogito ergo sum

It´s absolutely possible that somebody being more clever than me errs at a specific point.
That´s called "logic".


Sure you ever saw a real PALACE? ;)


Mistake. With such a firm attitude you only use your eyes while reading whereas I utilize my brain too.
Authors are merely humans as well - and to err is human.

Ever heard of extensive arguments between very wise professors having totally different standpoints on one topic?
So the questions emerges: Which books do you believe?

What about the source, can you cite, especially the X palaces in Y km-distance?


I bet in the country of many thousands of palaces somebody has scanner or camera.


It is now really starting to become ridiculous. Your eagerness in honor, but imagination of rich other European countries paralyzed by poor not-14-17 Poland building masses of glamorous palaces and therefore stopping own building activity is sort of funny. Keep in mind we are talking about density!

Since this thread is intented as a picturesque discussion on German Palaces I´d like to ask you to continue the discussion concerning Polish palaces - or what your books regard as palaces - in another thread. Basically I like people loving their own country and being proud of its sights. Good reasons for that. But don´t exaggerate or become blind to facts! Facts are naturally independent from their adaption to books. Hence facts are often but not always compatible to what is written in books.

cogito ergo sum

I'm not polish, but french ( my wife is polish ), if you absolutely want to have raison, ok ...

NB. I visited Poland, & Germany by car so I know what am speaking about...
And after you wrote, I'm even more persuaded. I don't think that in France in our French Books truth is inexact ...


Question : Where are you from ?

About Poland :
If you have such determinate affirmations about Poland, what's your filling about German destructions there ?

Isn't it extraordinary that today after so horrors of destructions from the 2nd war, Poland is again so beautiful.
The most important is not haw many palaces are there, but it's a miracle that they still exist, in a such big number and the most impressive is that most of them are simply gorgeous.

And if it's true that Germany have more, ok I'm very happy for Germany !

You know in France we have more that 40000 castles & palaces, but only 2000 are in good conditions,
about the rest it's to late to save them because the costs are exorbitant, and many peoples have no money, and will not have !

If in Poland they are 5000 C & P, like you said, and if only 2000 are in good condition, it's extraordinary for nowadays,
compare to France !

And I don't think that in "good condition", you can find more castles & palaces in Germany than in France,
because little was destroyed in France in 2nd war, and Germany was terribly destroyed and many cities were reconstructed in modern style like Berlin, exception for Dresden, and many Palaces were near this cities, contrary to Poland where aristocracy
built many structures of this kind in every architecturally styles very very far from the cities !

Me, like an European guy, I repeat I'm very happy that Germany & Poland are beautiful country again ...
But it's strange that you wrote such hard affirmations about such insignificant thing ?

I wish you a very good day if you're from Germany ...

Originally Posted by angelika
Ah stop please, you want be more clever that peoples who written the travel books ???

you said :
It´s absolutely possible that somebody being more clever than me errs at a specific point. That´s called "logic".


Ok so guide : guide du routard, petit-futé, guide bleus evasion, guide lonely, etc. ( all guides in French of course because I live in France ).

So all the peoples who wrote in this guides this "specific point" are all more clever than you, but they all make a mistake and now That´s called "logic". ???

And the more strange is that this "specific point", i find no in one guide but in all I mentioned here quote above, all those peoples make mistake ???

Whaooo :! only you less clever like you wrote, know really the truth ... it's splendide as reaction from you ... you know at least how to turn this " specific point " in your advantage it is clear here, at least !


ak so guide : guide du rouard, petit futé, guide bleus evasion, guide lonely, etc. ( all guides in French of course becaue I live in Frnce ).
So all the peoples who wrote in this guides this specific point are all more clever than you but they all make a mistake and now That´s called "logic". ???
And the more strange is that specific point I find no in one guide but in all I mentioned here, all those peoples make mistake ??? whaooo ... only you less clever know the truouth .... that's

some repetitions :
sorry for the last paragraph,
some inattention from me.

Great thread ! I didn't know about the Shwerin one before, and I found the aerial of the Herren Chiemsee island awesome :)


PS: angelika this thread is about German castles, not about comparing German castles to Polish castles.

Here is a small one in Weilburg an der Lahn (in Hessen, central Germany):

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/743/weilschl4wo.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/1920/weilb019gx.jpg

And the town is precious too !

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/6167/weilburgluftaufn3jm.jpg


Btw. sorry for the lack of better pictures, they are the result of a quick search on the net

About Poland :
If you have such determinate affirmations about Poland, what's your filling about German destructions there ?@angelika you are very new to this forum. That might excuse your behaviour in a way. Not all threads are X versus Y threads. This here is just a picturesque information thread. Don´t think of me or you, think rather of other interested people wanting to inform about a specific topic. Of course we can also talk about these palaces, but not in that endless "we own the most, the prettiest, the best conserved which at all is a phantastic wonder"-manner. If you wish to inform basically about French/German palaces vs. Polish palaces feel free to create your own thread.

And you seem to feel quickly offended - without reason. No need to to become that obsessed. Neither did I say anything against Poland nor against its palaces. I was just doubting some figures which you presented (btw so far still without citation). If you can´t cope with users challenging your statements you are simply not fit for forum discussions.

Hopefully your identification with Polish palaces, your books or their content - because you like it - is not that distinct that you hate others having doubts about specific reported "facts". It is really Ok in the free world to criticize even books or parts of it.

Incidentally, citing is not just giving the book title, but showing page and words. I only want to educate you.
This is my last statement on that concern.

Nice Regards from Max
:)

http://www.blueba.de/Aktuell/livepic.jpg

http://www.keichel.com/ausflug/baden_wuerttemberg/bilder/neuenstein1.jpg

Great thread ! I didn't know about the Shwerin one before, and I found the aerial of the Herren Chiemsee island awesome :)


PS: angelika this thread is about German castles, not about comparing German castles to Polish castles.


You right, I stopp now... sorry

@angelika you are very new to this forum. That might excuse your behaviour in a way. Not all threads are X versus Y threads. This here is just a picturesque information thread. Don´t think of me or you, think rather of other interested people wanting to inform about a specific topic. Of course we can also talk about these palaces, but not in that endless "we own the most, the prettiest, the best conserved which at all is a phantastic wonder"-manner. If you wish to inform basically about French/German palaces vs. Polish palaces feel free to create your own thread.

And you seem to feel quickly offended - without reason. No need to to become that obsessed. Neither did I say anything against Poland nor against its palaces. I was just doubting some figures which you presented (btw so far still without citation). If you can´t cope with users challenging your statements you are simply not fit for forum discussions.

Hopefully your identification with Polish palaces, your books or their content - because you like it - is not that distinct that you hate others having doubts about specific reported "facts". It is really Ok in the free world to criticize even books or parts of it.

Incidentally, citing is not just giving the book title, but showing page and words. I only want to educate you.
This is my last statement on that concern.

Nice Regards from Max
:)

http://www.blueba.de/Aktuell/livepic.jpg




Sorry Max,

My big problem is my english so I can't write well, but I stop and go away ...
sorry, again and know that i love germany too ...

angelika, why dont you make new thread about polish palaces ?

angelika, why dont you make new thread about polish palaces ?

I have no time to put photos ... ( only internet at my office work ).

http://www.flieger-august.de/2006/Bilder/Zwinger.jpg

http://www.luftbilder.aero/water.php?a7b2286c3b6f4a240f53f8ffe1

http://www.luftbilder.aero/water.php?a7b2286c3b6f4a240953fdf9ec

Germany has so much to show :cheers:

They just rebuild Berlin's City Palace due to a lack of architectual ideas.

They just rebuild Berlin's City Palace due to a lack of architectual ideas.

If you think so... :bash:
Would be wonderful if Berlin gets its former "heart" back.

A palace in Germany's oldest city Trier (Kurfuerstliches Palais):
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5420/mareikebeelebh9.jpg

This as well (Palais Kesselstadt):
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/801/kesselstadtuj1.jpg

castles and palaces around my hometown (just to show you that also least known regions got some castles or what's left)

Schloss Sayn
http://www.romantischer-rhein.de/Regionbilder/RomRhein/RomRhein25.jpg

Schloss Neuwied
http://www.valdosta.edu/~mgnoll/Schloss-Neuwied.jpg

Schloss Engers
http://ceres.informatik.fh-kl.de/bsa/objekt_img/pic00048_1.jpg

Schloss Montabaur
http://www.dreamteam-events.com/images/software-softskills/adg_schloss%20montabaur_03.jpg

Schloss Hachenburg
http://www.zumweissenross-hachenburg.de/assets/images/schloss5.jpg
http://www.fh-bundesbank.de/images/start.jpg

Kurfürstliches Schloss Koblenz
http://www.jenskleemann.de/wissen/bildung/media/2/25/luftbild_schloss_koblenz.jpg
http://www.koblenz.de/touristik_kultur/bilder/msvc_intern/2280_13.jpg

Freusburg (Kirchen a. d. Sieg)
http://www.jewa-media.de/kunden/jugend-sommercamp/bilder/freusburg.gif
http://www.fdwl.eu/Freusburg.JPG

even my hometown Herschbach (Pop. 3000) had a castle
http://hometown.aol.de/ddff2003/kloster4.JPG
http://hometown.aol.de/ddff2003/kloster2.JPG

former castle in neighboured village Dierdorf (7km, Pop. 2800) (can't find any photo, there's nothing left)
http://www.burgeninventar.de/pics/rp/a50.jpg
ruin of neighboured castle Hartenfels (3km, Pop 900)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/f/f3/Hartenfels_Westerwald_Ortsansicht.jpg/800px-Hartenfels_Westerwald_Ortsansicht.jpg

Really awesome thread :) It should be continued soon, I haven't seen enough yet ;)

I've created a new thread:

Germany - Castles, Palaces, Fortresses (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1075575)


Since many photos of the first pages don't show up anymore and everything's just too massive and out of order. German sense of Ordnung, you know ;)


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