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KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 05:10 AM

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/245859/economy/business/japanese-investor-breaks-ground-at-bagong-nayong-pilipino?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=GMANewsFacebook

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ANG LABO NAMAN NG NAGPLANO NITO!!:bash::bash: bakit artificial beach pa ang naisip nilang ilagay HINDI BA NILA NAISIP EH ANG PILIPINAS AY ISANG BEACH COUNTRY?!...daming magagandang NATURAL beach sa labas anong logic ng pupunta ka sa isang artificial? whichever way you put it MAS MAGANDA PA RIN ANG NATURAL BEACH NATIN....sana ang nilagay nila dyan eh yung ARTIFICIAL SKIING SLOPES with all the winter ambiance and environment tulad ng nasa Dubai...at least yun eh FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THIS REGION! at siguradong dudumugun dahil since tropical at mainit dito ( and this region ) siguradong magugustuhan nila ang climate na hindi nila nararanasan...

Well anyway, at least nandyan na at matutuloy na...sana naman yung mga future investors eh MAKAISIP NG NAIIBA, UNIQUE IN THIS REGION AND SOMETHING THAT WILL STAND OUT FROM THE REST OF THE COMPETITION!...mix feelings pero since nandyan na at kahit papaano natuloy na sa dami daming EK-EK na pinagdaan...pasalamat na lang tayo ...although it could have been better but like I always said before ITS A START!...nangangarap lang naman kasi ako na WE HAVE SOMETHING OUR COMPETITORS DONT HAVE AND WILL BE DROOLING ABOUT....

All in all this is A HUGE BOOST IN OUT TOURISM CAMPAIGN and ATTRACTION so lets all out support our tourism campaign. We may have different views and opinion in many ways but in the end we must work together to what matters most....the RISING OF OUR COUNTRY!!

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 05:50 AM

Guys, sorry sa pagiging tamad mag-backread pero may plans ba na gumawa ng sports complex dito (athletics & football)? for hosting like let's say SEA games or even Asian games

kaya hindi ka umuunlad dahil sa ugali mo. magbago ka na!!!:bash:

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 06:08 AM

ANG LABO NAMAN NG NAGPLANO NITO!!:bash::bash: bakit artificial beach pa ang naisip nilang ilagay HINDI BA NILA NAISIP EH ANG PILIPINAS AY ISANG BEACH COUNTRY?!...daming magagandang NATURAL beach sa labas anong logic ng pupunta ka sa isang artificial? whichever way you put it MAS MAGANDA PA RIN ANG NATURAL BEACH NATIN....sana ang nilagay nila dyan eh yung ARTIFICIAL SKIING SLOPES with all the winter ambiance and environment tulad ng nasa Dubai...at least yun eh FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THIS REGION! at siguradong dudumugun dahil since tropical at mainit dito ( and this region ) siguradong magugustuhan nila ang climate na hindi nila nararanasan...

Well anyway, at least nandyan na at matutuloy na...sana naman yung mga future investors eh MAKAISIP NG NAIIBA, UNIQUE IN THIS REGION AND SOMETHING THAT WILL STAND OUT FROM THE REST OF THE COMPETITION!...mix feelings pero since nandyan na at kahit papaano natuloy na sa dami daming EK-EK na pinagdaan...pasalamat na lang tayo ...although it could have been better but like I always said before ITS A START!...nangangarap lang naman kasi ako na WE HAVE SOMETHING OUR COMPETITORS DONT HAVE AND WILL BE DROOLING ABOUT....

All in all this is A HUGE BOOST IN OUT TOURISM CAMPAIGN and ATTRACTION so lets all out support our tourism campaign. We may have different views and opinion in many ways but in the end we must work together to what matters most....the RISING OF OUR COUNTRY!!

Kaw naman, nagreact ka agad. Sana nagisip ka muna :)

Una sa lahat, hindi ikaw ang pakay ng business nila, fyi. Ang target market nila ay ang northeast region countries like japan, south korea, taiwan, hong kong and most especially China. Anong common denominator netong mga to? lahat sila sawa na sa WINTER, kaya hindi malayo na eto ang isa sa main feature.

Kung maka react ka, akala mo ikaw ang may ari :lol:

noypiblazer

January 28th, 2012, 06:17 AM

Guys, sorry sa pagiging tamad mag-backread pero may plans ba na gumawa ng sports complex dito (athletics & football)? for hosting like let's say SEA games or even Asian games
kaya hindi ka umuunlad dahil sa ugali mo. magbago ka na!!!:bash:

LOL. kaya nga naging taong bato, hindi tinatablan yan kaya wala ng pagbabago :lol::nuts:

KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 06:24 AM

Kaw naman, nagreact ka agad. Sana nagisip ka muna :)

Una sa lahat, hindi ikaw ang pakay ng business nila, fyi. Ang target market nila ay ang northeast region countries like japan, south korea, taiwan, hong kong and most especially China. Anong common denominator netong mga to? lahat sila sawa na sa WINTER, kaya hindi malayo na eto ang isa sa main feature.

Kung maka react ka, akala mo ikaw ang may ari :lol:

Ikaw naman hindi ka naman nagbabasa at iniintindi muna ang binasa...Ay! hind ka nga pala nagbabasa! Ang sabi ko PHILIPPINES IS A BEACH COUNTRY! OUR NATURAL BEACHES IS WAY BETTER THAN THAT ARTIFICIAL BEACHES!! Kung yang mga northern asians na yan ay sawa na sa winter eh mas pupuntahan nila yung mga NATURAL BEACHES with GENUINE tropical climate...diba may logic? ano gusto mo ARTIFICIAL o NATURAL???...gamitin muna yang natitirang uhog sa bungo mo bago ka dumakdak...KAYA KA PARATING NASUSUPALPAL dito eh masyado kang maepal pero walang katutunan piangsasabi mo:lol::lol::lol:

reign

January 28th, 2012, 06:27 AM

Anong malabo sa plano? yung artificial beach eh swimming pool din yun at requirement sa mga 5 star hotels .In the first place ang target market nila eh yung mga casino players both local and foreign.They will invest 2 U.S. billion dollars , cguro nman mas me alam sila kaysa sa atin.

ANG LABO NAMAN NG NAGPLANO NITO!!:bash::bash: bakit artificial beach pa ang naisip nilang ilagay HINDI BA NILA NAISIP EH ANG PILIPINAS AY ISANG BEACH COUNTRY?!...daming magagandang NATURAL beach sa labas anong logic ng pupunta ka sa isang artificial? whichever way you put it MAS MAGANDA PA RIN ANG NATURAL BEACH NATIN....sana ang nilagay nila dyan eh yung ARTIFICIAL SKIING SLOPES with all the winter ambiance and environment tulad ng nasa Dubai...at least yun eh FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THIS REGION! at siguradong dudumugun dahil since tropical at mainit dito ( and this region ) siguradong magugustuhan nila ang climate na hindi nila nararanasan...

Well anyway, at least nandyan na at matutuloy na...sana naman yung mga future investors eh MAKAISIP NG NAIIBA, UNIQUE IN THIS REGION AND SOMETHING THAT WILL STAND OUT FROM THE REST OF THE COMPETITION!...mix feelings pero since nandyan na at kahit papaano natuloy na sa dami daming EK-EK na pinagdaan...pasalamat na lang tayo ...although it could have been better but like I always said before ITS A START!...nangangarap lang naman kasi ako na WE HAVE SOMETHING OUR COMPETITORS DONT HAVE AND WILL BE DROOLING ABOUT....

All in all this is A HUGE BOOST IN OUT TOURISM CAMPAIGN and ATTRACTION so lets all out support our tourism campaign. We may have different views and opinion in many ways but in the end we must work together to what matters most....the RISING OF OUR COUNTRY!!

KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 06:36 AM

Anong malabo sa plano? yung artificial beach eh swimming pool din yun. In the first place the target marke nila eh yung mga casino players both local and foreign.They will invest 2 U.S. billion dollars , cguro nman mas me alam sila kaysa sa atin. Pinoy nga nma walang kasiyahan .

Hindi walang kasiyahan bro! OPINIONATED...thats the essence of this forum and the democracy of our country...hindi lahat ng isusubo sa iyo eh lulunokin mo agad...like I said AND I CLEARLY MENTIONED IT ON THAT LAST STATEMENT OF MY POST YOU QUOTED...we may have different opinions and views on things but in the end we must work together to what matters most....I may have some reservations...but in the end I still support this since its already there...we are in the same boat bro, we want our country back on track...different opinion doesn't mean its always destructive :)....if its just ANOTHER SWIMMING POOL....then what is their distinctive and UNIQUE ATTRACTIONS that people would love to see that other establishments don't have?...every business must think COMPETITION...if they cant offer something special then they cant get "special interest"

afterlife00

January 28th, 2012, 06:46 AM

^^ IMO yung artificial beach is just an added attraction for tourists who doesn't want to leave the confines of the hotel complex. If a tourist wants to go to a real beach, they will go somewhere else, if they want gaming, entertainment and more, they go to Manila. :)

reign

January 28th, 2012, 06:49 AM

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 06:50 AM

^^ IMO yung artificial beach is just an added attraction for tourist who doesn't want to leave the confines of the hotel complex. If a tourist wants to go to a real beach, they will go somewhere else, if they want gaming, entertainment and more, they go to Manila. :)

buti ka pa nag iisip at hindi nagrereact na akala mo, ikaw ang may ari. :lol:

100% tama ka dyan!:cheers:

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 06:53 AM

^^
OK, but IMO , the plan of Manila Bay Resorts is way better than some of the casino resorts in Las Vegas and Macau. Cguro alam na nila na ang Resorts World Bayshore eh may theme park kya d na sila naglagay.

at tama ka rin dyan! It compliments with resorts world bayshore dahil katabi lang nila. Of course, people will look for other facilities to entertain themselves other than the theme park:cheers:

good job din at hindi ka nagreact na akala mo ikaw ang may ari :lol:

afterlife00

January 28th, 2012, 06:55 AM

^^ boy_turista :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

anakngpasig

January 28th, 2012, 06:59 AM

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 07:02 AM

^^
OK, but IMO , the plan of Manila Bay Resorts is way better than some of the casino resorts in Las Vegas and Macau. Cguro alam na nila na ang Resorts World Bayshore eh may theme park kya d na sila naglagay.

Tama ka rin dyan! It compliments sa Resorts World dahil katabi lang nila to. These cater to people who wants a different kind of entertainment

buti ka pa, hindi nag rereact na kala mo ikaw ang may ari, unlike yung iba dyan :lol:

sarimanok

January 28th, 2012, 07:07 AM

parang hassle naman sa mga nagcacasino na lumipad pa ng palawan, cebu, bohol, at boracay then balik sa manila para mag-casino?

:lol: correct!
kamusta naman yun? haggard:lol:

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 07:08 AM

KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 07:21 AM

ako, kung gusto ko mag ski, pupunta ako sa Switzerland, natural snow pa. or kung ako koreano, may ski resorts naman sa korea, ba't pa ako dadayo ng pilipinas para lang mag skiing?

feel ko lang, ang target market nila ay mga nagcacasino na gusto rin ng beach.

kung sa boracay nilagay ang casino, di siguro sila maglalagay ng artificial beach kasi may beach na dun, kaya lang, sa Manila ang casino eh...why not create an artificial beach? bakit nga ba sila sila gumawa ng artificial beach dyan? ayaw naman yata nilang maligo sa manila bay ang mga nagcacasino, baka gagalisiin lang sila, di ba? kasi yun ang market nila - high-rollers who also want a taste of tropical beach.

parang hassle naman sa mga nagcacasino na lumipad pa ng palawan, cebu, bohol, at boracay then balik sa manila para mag-casino?

I understand bro....pero yung mga Chinese, Japanese at Koreans lang ba ang market natin? Are we forgetting the Malaysians, Singaporeans, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Thais and other nationalities in our region? I tell you it will be cheaper to experience winter like weather and skiing here than going to Europe or other northern Asian countries for this people...these people wont go to beaches since they already have their own back home..natural pa!...nag suggest lang naman ako ng indoor skiing dahil IT WILL BE THE FIRST AND OUTSTANDING in our region....but there are other facilities they can put up like a HUGE WATER THEME PARK like that of Sunway Lagoon of Malaysia, or maybe like their previous plans of dipping ferris wheel will do...it should be DIFFERENT , UNIQUE....going to european countries to just to ski is WAY TO EXPENSIVE and impractical, kung skiing lang eh pwede naman dito KUNG may magtatayo lang ng ganun....

And Yes...we may have a casino in Boracay too, and Cebu, and Palawan...with their natural beaches don't you think that artificial beach will be redundant?

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 07:22 AM

LOL. kaya nga naging taong bato, hindi tinatablan yan kaya wala ng pagbabago :lol::nuts:

Hahaha... Kakainis kasi yung mga tatamad tamad, kaya walang nangyayari sa buhay nilang maganda. Palaasa!

ang tamad na nga, ang kapal pa ng fes to ask #kaw may ari? :lol:

reign

January 28th, 2012, 07:34 AM

If you will noticed , tinanggal nila yung Manila Eye at Oceanarium kc may MOA Eye at Manila Ocean Park na . Maybe they already knew the attractions of the theme park at Resorts World Bayshore na di natin alam.

I understand bro....pero yung mga Chinese, Japanese at Koreans lang ba ang market natin? Are we forgetting the Malaysians, Singaporeans, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Thais and other nationalities in our region? I tell you it will be cheaper to experience winter like weather and skiing here than going to Europe or other northern Asian countries for this people...these people wont go to beaches since they already have their own back home..natural pa!...nag suggest lang naman ako ng indoor skiing dahil IT WILL BE THE FIRST AND OUTSTANDING in our region....but there are other facilities they can put up like a HUGE WATER THEME PARK like that of Sunway Lagoon of Malaysia, or maybe like their previous plans of dipping ferris wheel will do...it should be DIFFERENT , UNIQUE....going to european countries to just to ski is WAY TO EXPENSIVE and impractical, kung skiing lang eh pwede naman dito KUNG may magtatayo lang ng ganun....

And Yes...we may have a casino in Boracay too, and Cebu, and Palawan...with their natural beaches don't you think that artificial beach will be redundant?

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 07:38 AM

Ayan na ang may ari at major shareholder ng Manila Bay Resorts.

Sabagay mas alam nga naman nya ang target market dahil business niya nga naman! :lol:

Mas alam rin nya na mas may pera ang mga tiga south east asia kesa sa northeast asia. Sabagay ano lang naman ang China being #2, Japan #3 at South Korea #12 as among the world's biggest economies :lol:

paikutin muna kasi ang TOTEM, i'll signal the second-level kick! #inception

KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 07:51 AM

If you will noticed , tinanggal nila yung Manila Eye at Oceanarium kc may MOA Eye at Manila Ocean Park na . Maybe they already knew the attractions of the theme park at Resorts World Bayshore na di natin alam.

Yup I agree with you on the oceanarium part but the MOA eye is hardly in the league of the giant Ferris wheels of the world...and if they follow the previous plan ( the one dipping in water ) it will be truly unique...and yes...sana nga may ibang mai-o-offer ang Resorts World Bayshore that is trully different and complementive of its nieghboring establishments...ang tagal lang nila....hayan na ang Korea planning to build a 3billion dollar theme park baka maunahan pa tayo...kung ang ilalagay nila ay UNIQUE at different sa mga itinatayo sa abroad they wont fear any of these developments in other countries

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 08:07 AM

:lol: correct!
kamusta naman yun? haggard:lol:

Hahaha... Gusto kasi niya na pahirapan muna yung mga high rollers, yan kasi ang definition ng UNIQUE nya! :lol:

anakngpasig

January 28th, 2012, 08:12 AM

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 08:14 AM

KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 08:37 AM

I get your frustration na walang ski resort sa Pilipinas but the Philippines is being marketed as a tropical paradise, not a winter wonderland, isn't it? The investor simply wants to build a casino in Manila but Manila is nowhere near the tropical paradise the Philippines is known for, so what's the solution to make Manila become a tropical paradise? build a beach or a ski resort?

Hindi naman ako frustrated na walang ski resort sa Pinas....frustrated lang ako dahil sa lahat ng pwede nilang gawin artificial eh BEACH pa ang naisip....gagawa lang ng artificial eh gawa na ng something not found in the Philippines diba? Mas may sense at marketing strategy yung artificial indoor ski dahil nga ITS NOT FOUND IN THIS REGION...and one more thing Philippines is not being marketed as MERELY a tropical paradise BUT AS A WHOLE ENTERTAINMENT PACKAGE AND TOURISM HAVEN....diba mas maganda kung DIVERSE ang mai-o-offer natin sa mga tourist?...just think about this...if a European, American or northern Asian come here for that tropical paradise then suddenly they found something that they are doing back home and can change preference at will, diba ang ganda ng marketing strategy na ganun?...simply put yourself in their shoes like "oh I want the tropical climate since its too cold (-10 degrees) back home"...tapos biglang "hey! there's a skii slope here! I can do what ive been doing this winter!"....tapos pag sawa na sila they can easily switch to what season they want...kaya nga Japan gumawa ng artificial beach eh dahil pag winter doon they they can switch to summer gear and bikinis at will and head to that indoor beach..

manila_eye

January 28th, 2012, 08:56 AM

^^ i somewhat agree. marami na tayong beaches. an indoor ski will surely attract our neighboring brothers.

anakngpasig

January 28th, 2012, 09:05 AM

how about the costs? like electricity (considering we have one of the highest electricity rates)? wouldn't it be expensive to maintain a ski resort?

KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 09:20 AM

how about the costs? like electricity (considering we have one of the highest electricity rates)? wouldn't it be expensive to maintain a ski resort?

Technology will answer that sir...in US they have windows with argon gas in-between to prevent any cold or heat from escaping, thats passive insulation...very effective....in Dubai they use the same insulation found in buildings BUT WITH A BIG EMPTY GAP in between to prevent heat transfer...and regarding the electricity the investor can put up solar panels or wind turbines ( in Dubai too they have a building with wind turbines attached to it )....I tell you WE HAVE TONS AND TONS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY ( just walk in the streets midday of May in Manila :D )and the technology harnessing them is getting better and better, did you see those empty spaces on the roof area on their original render?...there even a technology to harness the energy of your footsteps using piezoelectric devices which can be installed on hallways or place with high volume of people traffic....well all these cost much more to build but once you have it the return is guaranteed in electricity savings...

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 09:21 AM

how about the costs? like electricity (considering we have one of the highest electricity rates)? wouldn't it be expensive to maintain a ski resort?

Suggest ko lang, wag mo na kasing kontrahin. Mas may pera daw kasi ang singaporean, thais, vietnamese, indonesians, malaysians, kesa sa chinese, japanese at koreans. Kaya dapat magka ski resort sa manila bay resorts dahil siya ang may ari! Hahaha...

I-ignore na natin ang success ng Macau as the worlds biggest casino market dahil sa mga chinese, iignore na rin natin na by 2015 and beyond china will be the 2nd larget travellers globally.

Wala naman kwenta tong mga statistics na to, China #2, Japan #3, Korea #12 as worlds biggest economies. Ang importante mas may market ang south east asia kaya dapat magka SKI RESORT, pagbigyan nyo na at bitter kasi. Lols

reign

January 28th, 2012, 09:26 AM

KnightOfTheFlag

January 28th, 2012, 09:42 AM

Artificial beach is just an upgraded/enhanced swimming pool , dami nito sa mga resorts sa Bulacan. Mali kc yung sinasabi mo na bkit ginawa pa itong artificial beach ,swimming pool is a requirements/amenities sa mga 5 star hotels , so d pwede itong mawala.

Like you said dami na pala nito sa Bulacan eh bakit gagawa pa sila nito? so that beach is actually a swimming pool huh? Check the pic you quoted crossboneka....does it look like a swimming pool? if its an upgraded swimming pool then ok, I agree with you...but WHAT ELSE DO THEY HAVE TO OFFER THAN AN UPGRADED SWIMMING POOL THAT'S IS FOUND ACROSS MANILA?...all I can think of ( and hope for) is that fountain would be one of the biggest fountains in the world...well to be "more attractive"....if they just merely follows the requirements of a five star hotels then they are no different from other "five star" hotels in this region...

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 09:50 AM

rain34

January 28th, 2012, 11:03 AM

I understand bro....pero yung mga Chinese, Japanese at Koreans lang ba ang market natin? Are we forgetting the Malaysians, Singaporeans, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Thais and other nationalities in our region? I tell you it will be cheaper to experience winter like weather and skiing here than going to Europe or other northern Asian countries for this people...these people wont go to beaches since they already have their own back home..natural pa!...nag suggest lang naman ako ng indoor skiing dahil IT WILL BE THE FIRST AND OUTSTANDING in our region....but there are other facilities they can put up like a HUGE WATER THEME PARK like that of Sunway Lagoon of Malaysia, or maybe like their previous plans of dipping ferris wheel will do...it should be DIFFERENT , UNIQUE....going to european countries to just to ski is WAY TO EXPENSIVE and impractical, kung skiing lang eh pwede naman dito KUNG may magtatayo lang ng ganun....

And Yes...we may have a casino in Boracay too, and Cebu, and Palawan...with their natural beaches don't you think that artificial beach will be redundant?

Well as per the news article hindi naman Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam ang target market eh kundi China, Japan and South Korea. Sure all nationality is welcome but priority ang CJS market (shortcut :lol:)

Japanese investor breaks ground at Bagong Nayong Pilipino
EARL VICTOR ROSERO, GMA News January 26, 2012 4:53pm

“Manila Bay Resorts seeks to attract business travelers and tourists from all over Asia especially the Chinese market,” according to Tiger Resorts. The tourism markets of Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Hong Kong were also eyed.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/245859/economy/business/japanese-investor-breaks-ground-at-bagong-nayong-pilipino?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=GMANewsFacebook

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 11:31 AM

Well as per the news article hindi naman Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam ang target market eh kundi China, Japan and South Korea. Sure all nationality is welcome but priority ang CJS market (shortcut :lol:)

Japanese investor breaks ground at Bagong Nayong Pilipino
EARL VICTOR ROSERO, GMA News January 26, 2012 4:53pm

“Manila Bay Resorts seeks to attract business travelers and tourists from all over Asia especially the Chinese market,” according to Tiger Resorts. The tourism markets of Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Hong Kong were also eyed.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/245859/economy/business/japanese-investor-breaks-ground-at-bagong-nayong-pilipino?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=GMANewsFacebook

haha... ano ka b, mas marunong ka pa sa may ari at major shareholder ng Manila Bay Resorts! Lols :lol:

kahit anong sabihin mo, KELANGAN MAGTAYO NG SKI RESORT dahil MAS may pera sa SOUTHEAST ASIAN REGION. Ang talino kaya niya! Haha... :lol:

_zner_

January 28th, 2012, 11:43 AM

Bakit ba masyadong affected sa artificial beach? :lol: added feature lang yun ng hotel. besides, bear in mind na main target market nila yung mag-ca-casino, hindi yung mag-be-beach. :lol:

sarimanok

January 28th, 2012, 12:17 PM

san kaya nila kukunin yung white sand? :D

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 01:10 PM

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 01:12 PM

san kaya nila kukunin yung white sand? :D

yung snow sa ski resort nya, nagiging white sand.... "TECHNOLOGY will answer that sir"... you know... Haha... :lol:

watcher09

January 28th, 2012, 01:13 PM

Bakit ba masyadong affected sa artificial beach? :lol: added feature lang yun ng hotel. besides, bear in mind na main target market nila yung mag-ca-casino, hindi yung mag-be-beach. :lol:

Yup. It's just a place to rest the sore butts of gamers. Be thankful that we will have an artificial bech inside a dome. This dome somehow percolates the sun rays.

If you people are dissappointed of anything, build your own.

DCRJ

January 28th, 2012, 01:22 PM

ski slope or artificial beach ? in my opinion, i would prefer the artificial beach for our visitors from Japan, South Korea, China. I got friends from those countries, some of them visited me here in the Philippines...offered them air-conditioned room but they turned off the air-con during their stay...they argued they prefer the tropical heat sawa na raw sila sa malamig na klema. but a ski slope attraction is also a nice attraction in the Philippines and that would cater to our visitors from tropical countries like Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, Cambodia and Vietnam. then again why not having them both (artificial beach and ski slopes)..best of both worlds ! yes, maraming natural beach sa Pilipinas and having artificial beach at a hotel is, I think, for the comfort of our visitors. In China, the climate is temperate, meaning cold yet they still have a ski slope attraction specially in Shenzhen. here's a photo of mine to prove my point, me at the ski slope attraction in Windows of the World, Shenzhen, China
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/430918_2958119426559_1068719127_3040722_1648225055_n.jpg

maximizer101

January 28th, 2012, 01:26 PM

Ba't di ka nlg maging masaya pra sa Pilipinas?? Ang hirap kac sa iba jan di mrunong makuntento...cge nga, if you're really confident with your idea, why don't you make your own version of Manila Bay Resorts?? Ba't di ka mag.invest using your own money?? Tutal BETTER nmn yang idea mo kesa sa kanila...for sure dudumugin ng turista yan at lalangawin ang manila bay resorts ng tiger entertainment...:lol::lol::)

boy_turista

January 28th, 2012, 01:32 PM

sarimanok

January 28th, 2012, 01:48 PM

yung snow sa ski resort nya, nagiging white sand.... "TECHNOLOGY will answer that sir"... you know... Haha... :lol:

:nuts::lol:

anyway ang gusto ko sa design na to yung
-indoor beach (the first in the country??)
-yung fountain area
-yung tunnel

at yung golden color..:cheers:

maximizer101

January 28th, 2012, 03:36 PM

Just an idea...
Why not make an indoor environment...w/ different kinds of weathers all day long...like from winter it will become kinda tropical w/ all those coconuts suddenly sprouting out of nowhere...and the water rushing by the shore just like when its high tide...:lol::lol:....just my flying imagination...:):nuts:

Bosnyboy

January 28th, 2012, 03:42 PM

There's a big possibility bka Ayala nga ang maka joint venture nila sa mall development. SM kasi owns Belle Grande while Megaworld nman sa Resorts World.

Di kaya mas bagay ang store specialist?

sarimanok

January 28th, 2012, 04:22 PM

boy_turista

January 29th, 2012, 01:08 AM

Di kaya mas bagay ang store specialist?

I know what you're thinking. But do they have experience in "mall operation"??? as their name implies, they are "store specialists", what you think? :) :cheers:

nhetz

January 29th, 2012, 05:41 AM

hay naku, ang daming umepal dito. akala kung sinong super galing. Para bang pera nila ang ini invest dito. Instead of comparing or downgrading this project why dont you help sell this to other nationalities by praising this wonderful project that promises thousands of jobs to our fellowmen.

nhetz

January 29th, 2012, 05:44 AM

kaya minsan yung ibang project cancel-lado na. yung ibang naman, iniba ang final project dahil sa daming nag nega-comment na galing sa mga feeling genius.

boy_turista

January 29th, 2012, 05:58 AM

kaya minsan yung ibang project cancel-lado na. yung ibang naman, iniba ang final project dahil sa daming nag nega-comment na galing sa mga feeling genius.

kaw naman, hayaan mo na, sya kasi ang may ari. :)

isa pa kahit mag nega comment sila dito, dito lang yun. pero since sya ang may ari, may point ka dyan! Nyahaha... :lol:

pi_malejana

January 29th, 2012, 06:47 AM

^^ di ko lang masama na palang maglabas ng viewpoint dito ngayon?? ikaw ba may-ari ng forum??:|

noypiblazer

January 29th, 2012, 07:22 AM

^^ di ko lang masama na palang maglabas ng viewpoint dito ngayon?? ikaw ba may-ari ng forum??:|

booyah ! :lol: mukhang na boomerang yung isa dyan :bash::lol:

ta0ngbat0

January 29th, 2012, 10:30 AM

kaya hindi ka umuunlad dahil sa ugali mo. magbago ka na!!!:bash:

LOL wow! this guy is an asshole :lol:

watcher09

January 29th, 2012, 11:21 AM

^^ di ko lang masama na palang maglabas ng viewpoint dito ngayon?? ikaw ba may-ari ng forum??:|

Depends on views. Some people make comment just for the sake of commenting. Of course we want a healthy and prolific discussion joined by as many as possible. This is as long as the intention of sharing a viewpoint is not questionable and without malice.

boy_turista

January 29th, 2012, 12:07 PM

@ta0ngbat0

are you emotionally hurt??? Well, ganun talaga, tatamad tamad ka kasi. Hindi ka dapat pamarisan. You're a prime example of Juan Tamad. Magbago ka na HOY! Kafal ng fes mo! :bash:

ta0ngbat0

January 29th, 2012, 12:52 PM

@ta0ngbat0

are you emotionally hurt??? Well, ganun talaga, tatamad tamad ka kasi. Hindi ka dapat pamarisan. You're a prime example of Juan Tamad. Magbago ka na HOY! Kafal ng fes mo! :bash:

Nope. LOL :lol:

I was just asking about the sport complex since last time I visit this page which is a very long time, meron plans na ganun and I think it's a little fair na magtanong lang ako since baka may mga posters na updated dito sa thread, LOL @ me getting wholey judged by not backreading medjo fair naman ung tanong ko considering medjo mahaba-haba na tong thread. Peace bro :)

nicotech

January 29th, 2012, 12:56 PM

haha tama pa ba yung mga binabasa ko? nakakatawa mga tao d2...parang wala ng buhay puro skyscrapercity nalang inaatupag... paramihan ba ng posts d2...regular visitor ako ng skyscrapercity dahil halos lahat ng projects namin sa office e featured d2. kaya d2 ako minsan kumukuha ng updates tapos ito dadatnan ko. puro pataasan ng ****meron pa ata issue about territoriality kahit sa cyber space....

boy_turista

January 29th, 2012, 01:21 PM

Nope. LOL :lol:

I was just asking about the sport complex since last time I visit this page which is a very long time, meron plans na ganun and I think it's a little fair na magtanong lang ako since baka may mga posters na updated dito sa thread, LOL @ me getting wholey judged by not backreading medjo fair naman ung tanong ko considering medjo mahaba-haba na tong thread. Peace bro :)

Paanong naging fair if you're asking for an update instead of backreading??? E ano naman ngayon kung mahaba? It only shows TAMAD KA NGA! Sau na mismo nanggaling. Karamihan dito nagbabasa, hindi nagtatanong! #kafal mo naman bro :bash:

ta0ngbat0

January 29th, 2012, 01:25 PM

Paanong naging fair if you're asking for an update instead of backreading??? E ano naman ngayon kung mahaba? It only shows TAMAD KA NGA! Sau na mismo nanggaling. Karamihan dito nagbabasa, hindi nagtatanong! #kafal mo naman bro :bash:

okay. just chill :lol:

let just move on with the thread and I'm new here maybe makapag-contribute din ako kung may updates akong nabalitaan :)

boy_turista

January 29th, 2012, 01:30 PM

okay. just chill :lol:

let just move on with the thread and I'm new here maybe makapag-contribute din ako kung may updates akong nabalitaan :)

good job! ganyan dapat! :cheers:

anonymous_filipino

January 30th, 2012, 02:51 AM

Kahit saang thread yata may nakakaaway yung isa dito. Tulad na lang sa DMIA thread may nakaaway doon kaya hindi na nagpopost kasi baka magbalitaktakan sila ng bff niya ulit.

Back to topic: from NAIA 3 I saw the progress of Belle Grande Manila. Ang bilis ng progress! Exterior walls and interior na lang kulang

boy_turista

January 30th, 2012, 01:12 PM

^^haha... walang nakikipag away, it's more of common sense dear! :lol:

zeroventeuno

January 31st, 2012, 01:22 PM

yung belle casino kulay gold? tapos yung universal entertainment manila....gold dn?

Jose Mari

January 31st, 2012, 02:22 PM

In the meadow we can build a snowman,
Then pretend that he is Parson Brown

He'll say: Are you married?
We'll say: No man,
But you can do the job
When you're in town.

Tapos paglabas mo ng ski slopes lumalagaktak naman pawis mo sa ilalim ng matinding araw. Siguro halos wala din marunong mag-ski na mga Southeast Asians. Baka puro langaw lang magpadusdos diyan.

:nuts::nuts::nuts:

Sigurado dun sa mga northern Asians like the Japanese, Chinese and Koreans, skiing is probably 2nd nature to them, but they've already seen that and done that. Why would they wanna ski in a FAKE, SHORT and expensive to maintain artificial slope when they can experience the real deal in their home turfs?

The clean and secluded artificial beach is a good idea because Manila hasn't got that kind of natural attraction to offer these foreigners. I'm kinda excited about that giant fountain too. Sana hindi puros render lang ang manyari like that Tower and Manila Eye.

watcher09

January 31st, 2012, 05:45 PM

^^Reminds me of winter village at Menara Kuala Lumpur. It was hot, so we thought going there would give us a relief. Napamura ang kasama namin. The snow was made of styro.

pi_malejana

January 31st, 2012, 07:19 PM

Depends on views. Some people make comment just for the sake of commenting. Of course we want a healthy and prolific discussion joined by as many as possible. This is as long as the intention of sharing a viewpoint is not questionable and without malice.

did you find anything malicious with @knight's posts??:dunno: he was merely stating his opinion and then all of a sudden we have boy_turista acting like an ass..:ohno:

noypiblazer

January 31st, 2012, 10:15 PM

^^ naku po, ayan nanaman umpisa nanaman, pagkatapos ng comment na yan mag react yung isa dyan....it's a vicious cycle, man. just ignore the guy, meron siyang sariling mundo eh :lol:

DCRJ

February 1st, 2012, 03:25 AM

source--> http://www.universal-777.com/en/ir/releases/2012/20120131_e.pdf

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/405433_2983957152486_1068719127_3050332_1518673971_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/431029_2983955872454_1068719127_3050330_498578504_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/408875_2983982273114_1068719127_3050341_784774015_n.jpg

burugudugstuy1987

February 1st, 2012, 05:01 AM

:hi::hi::hi:

Burugudugstuy here...

i've been following this thread for over a year now. Nakakatuwa lang at ngayon lang ako nagkaroon ng lakas ng loob na magpost. :wallbash::hilarious:hilarious

BACK TO TOPIC:
KUNG magkataon na yung pinost ni sir InfinitiFX45 ang final masterplan ng RWB, mukhang pareho sila ng MBR na may tunnel/underground...
Sana lang ma-finalized na yung masterplan ng RWB para grand openning na lang ang hihintayin natin... :cheers::cheers::cheers:

jaygold06

February 1st, 2012, 06:00 AM

^^welcome to ssc!!! ganyan din ako dati lurker hanggang sa di ko na mapigilan sarili ko makijoin at magpost.:lol:

sarimanok

February 1st, 2012, 06:55 AM

welcome to SSC Burugudugstuy!

Jose Mari

February 1st, 2012, 07:55 AM

That grand fountain though seems secluded and is only for the exclusive viewing of customers. It's completely surrounded by structures so I doubt passersby could get an eyeful from the sidewalks like they do in the Vegas Strip with the famous Bellagio Fountains.

Medyo 'ata pinagdadamot yang attraction na 'yan sa public...lol. Mas maganda kung makikita siya ng mga nagdadaan.

watcher09

February 1st, 2012, 07:59 AM

did you find anything malicious with @knight's posts??:dunno: he was merely stating his opinion and then all of a sudden we have boy_turista acting like an ass..:ohno:

I didn't. Did I say anything? I didn't mention any name nor any specific example.

watcher09

February 1st, 2012, 08:02 AM

Bosnyboy

February 1st, 2012, 08:05 AM

May punto ka dun mr jose mari chan :))

Jose Mari

February 1st, 2012, 08:08 AM

You have to go in and spend some time. If you would be there just to pass, chances are, you would not see all the grandeur anyway.

But the grandeur of the Bellagio Fountains is accessible to all. That's why it became a well known tourist landmark in Vegas. It's like a tourist magnet that helps draw people to that area. It would be more practical and better for business if they show it off, IMO.

GreenRadiation

February 1st, 2012, 10:56 AM

Belle is currently cladding the podium. I have pics pero nawawala card reader ko. :/

afterlife00

February 1st, 2012, 12:24 PM

xavierdude

February 1st, 2012, 03:44 PM

But the grandeur of the Bellagio Fountains is accessible to all. That's why it became a well known tourist landmark in Vegas. It's like a tourist magnet that helps draw people to that area. It would be more practical and better for business if they show it off, IMO.

if they follow the Bellagio fountain, then the issue would be the lack of originality.

boy_turista

February 1st, 2012, 03:58 PM

did you find anything malicious with @knight's posts??:dunno: he was merely stating his opinion and then all of a sudden we have boy_turista acting like an ass..:ohno:

you mean acting like YOU just now!?? It's more of a common sense reaction, fyi. And i hope you're NOT SAWSAW with that comment of yours. Ok Manure!? :cheers:

burugudugstuy1987

February 2nd, 2012, 04:10 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome...
Naks! :D:D:D

Regarding dun sa placement ng fountain, I think it's a strategy to attract potential customers ng retails/restaurant inside the MBR premises. Kasi pag sa labas nilagay yung fountain, malamang mga casino goers lang kakain sa mga resto nila... Since sa loob nilagay, natural mente kahit yung fountain lang ang sadya e pag dinatnan ng gutom, mapapapasok sa resto at dun na kakain while enjoying the show...

:|:|:|

pau_p1

February 2nd, 2012, 10:49 AM

But the grandeur of the Bellagio Fountains is accessible to all. That's why it became a well known tourist landmark in Vegas. It's like a tourist magnet that helps draw people to that area. It would be more practical and better for business if they show it off, IMO.

i agree.. that's what I felt too... it's not open to the public compared to Bellagio's.... and it seem that you can only watch it inside if you are dining inside where restaurants line up around the fountain...

Kintoy

February 2nd, 2012, 03:04 PM

you mean acting like YOU just now!?? It's more of a common sense reaction, fyi. And i hope you're NOT SAWSAW with that comment of yours. Ok Manure!? :cheers:

:cheers: haha

pi_malejana

February 2nd, 2012, 10:23 PM

:lol::nuts:

DCRJ

February 5th, 2012, 01:27 AM

FRESH PHOTO UPDATES, taken by DCRJ (Dan C Rivera Jr)

Snapshot taken by me Feb. 4, 2012
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/425218_3012931996839_1068719127_3060123_875254038_n.jpg
SOLAIRE MANILA CASINO (at the back of Microtel Hotel)
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/166930_3012932676856_1068719127_3060125_1570908660_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407977_3012933636880_1068719127_3060128_458863646_n.jpg

Snapshots taken by me this morning Feb. 5, 2012 Sunday 7:30am
BELLE GRANDE MANILA
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/424767_3012934996914_1068719127_3060130_678460056_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/166980_3012936956963_1068719127_3060132_1372129640_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/418273_3012937836985_1068719127_3060133_1046216204_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/394130_3012938076991_1068719127_3060134_51960537_n.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/407814_3012938957013_1068719127_3060135_1723166647_n.jpg

miss the phils

February 5th, 2012, 01:37 AM

totoo ba to

vdm60sqm

February 5th, 2012, 02:45 AM

para saan kaya yung mga numbers na nakasulat sa center island ng roxas blvd. ? :|

reign

February 5th, 2012, 04:03 AM

Huge and looking good. I hope they will put a really nice cladding.

watcher09

February 5th, 2012, 06:56 AM

totoo ba to

Alin po ang totoo? Solaire or Belle Grande?

Nice pics Mr. Dan. Gabi lang ako nadadaan dyan sa Belle.

Jose Mari

February 5th, 2012, 06:59 AM

totoo ba to

Yup... tuloy-tuloy na 'to!

Naubos na 'ata laway eh. It's time for action naman.

:dance:

Jose Mari

February 5th, 2012, 07:00 AM

para saan kaya yung mga numbers na nakasulat sa center island ng roxas blvd. ? :|

Right! Might as well be graffiti. :ohno:

pi_malejana

February 5th, 2012, 07:54 AM

Right! Might as well be graffiti. :ohno:

baka para sa construction ung mga numbers...

Jose Mari

February 5th, 2012, 08:17 AM

baka para sa construction ung mga numbers...

baka nga... sana.

yhuanista07

February 5th, 2012, 12:32 PM

para saan kaya yung mga numbers na nakasulat sa center island ng roxas blvd. ? :|
Ang alam ko para yan sa stage 3... ng Skyway! hahah jk. :lol::lol:

_zner_

February 5th, 2012, 01:27 PM

Huge and looking good. I hope they will put a really nice cladding.

They're actually working on the cladding(podium level) and some really shiny gold curtain wall on the windows. :D

xavierdude

February 5th, 2012, 02:43 PM

para saan kaya yung mga numbers na nakasulat sa center island ng roxas blvd. ? :|

10 Meter interval marks. used by surveyors and engineers for references. baka may infra works

vdm60sqm

February 5th, 2012, 03:15 PM

sana nga infra to relieve the congestion in the area :)

sarimanok

February 5th, 2012, 06:25 PM

para saan kaya yung mga numbers na nakasulat sa center island ng roxas blvd. ? :|

weh?:D

Kidding aside, stationing yan. Label yan kapag may nag-survey (hindi yung sa SWS at Pulse Asia:lol:) nung area. Pwedeng may project nga na gagawin sa area na yan!

6+860 means 6 kilometers and 860 meters. Meron nga nyan sa skyway.

yhuanista07

February 6th, 2012, 03:04 PM

para saan kaya yung mga numbers na nakasulat sa center island ng roxas blvd. ? :|

MONORAIL?!!

boy_turista

February 6th, 2012, 03:35 PM

yang mga numbers na yan e para sa NAIA Phase 2 Expressway, fyi

DCRJ

February 7th, 2012, 12:21 AM

yang mga numbers na yan e para sa NAIA Phase 2 Expressway, fyi

thanks for the info
http://www.dpwh.gov.ph/bureau_services/PPP/projects/naia_2.htm
NAIA Expressway (Phase II)
PROJECT OBJECTIVE

To provide improved access to Ninoy Aquino International Airport

To Improve traffic condition by decongesting at-grade roads;

Projects Description :
It is a 4-lane elevated expressway with a total length of 5.2 kms. Starting from Sales St. going to Andrews Ave, Domestic Road, MIA Rd. and ends at Roxas Blvd. It includes to construction of toll plaza and 5 on and off ramps.

Total Project Cost :
P 13.575 B

Government Support:
ROW
P 947.76 M
IC (50%)
P 260.71 M
Subsidy
P 5,547.75 M
Total P 6.756 B
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/422086_3028739712022_1068719127_3068347_1493818296_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/402522_3028738031980_1068719127_3068345_159365013_n.jpg

The expressway ends at the side and back end of Uniwide Coastal Mall connecting to the Diosdado Macapagal Blvd. (actually near Resorts World Bayshore and Manila Bay Resorts) but will not be built along Roxas Blvd. I hope Unviversal Entertainment would connect with the end of the NAIA Phase II expressway. I wish there would be a monorail too in the works

pau_p1

February 7th, 2012, 02:15 AM

hmmm so it seems that NAIA expressway will only have an offramp to Coastal Road...

That expressway will be a great one for the PAGCor casinos!... I wonder if the monorail proposal in the PagCor area will come true... or I hope that SM would invest on extending MRT3 to MoA at least or upto Belle Grand.. :)

miss the phils

February 7th, 2012, 07:32 AM

ang gulo....anu pinagkaiba nito sa C5 extension

Kintoy

February 7th, 2012, 07:43 AM

yang mga numbers na yan e para sa NAIA Phase 2 Expressway, fyi

haha thanks for the info. iba na yung may alam, hindi yung puro base sa Flickr. :lol:

pi_malejana

February 7th, 2012, 07:52 AM

haha thanks for the info. iba na yung may alam, hindi yung puro base sa Flickr. :lol:

and what do you contribute?? that's right, nothiiiiiing....

pau_p1

February 7th, 2012, 09:48 AM

ang gulo....anu pinagkaiba nito sa C5 extension

tollway po ito directly connected sa Skyway... ang C5 extension is a regular highway...

magmario

February 7th, 2012, 02:03 PM

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/07/12/belle-corp-eyes-1b-leisure-project-govt-official

panay1

February 7th, 2012, 02:04 PM

reign

February 7th, 2012, 04:29 PM

Good news , but I wish Pagcor will consider another investor to develop this 10 hectares property. Mas maganda cguro kung mag concentrate na lang ang SM/Belle group sa Belle Grande complex pra mas maimprove nila ito, considering that Manila Bay Resorts and Resorts World Bayshore is way better in terms of design and attractions.

Belle to invest another $1Billion?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/07/12/belle-corp-eyes-1b-leisure-project-govt-official

InfinitiFX45

February 7th, 2012, 05:49 PM

Belle Corp eyes $1B leisure project - govt official :banana: :cheers:

by Rosemarie Francisco and Jason Szep | Reuters | ABS-CBN News | 02/07/2012| 8:15 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Property and leisure group Belle Corp. has told the Philippine Amusement & Gaming Corporation it wants to acquire a 10-hectare property within a casino-entertainment complex rising in Manila, the head of the state gaming firm said.

Development of the property would require at least $1 billion and would increase Belle's investment in the complex, PAGCOR chairman and chief executive officer Cristino Naguiat said on Tuesday.

"We have a letter from the Belle group requesting us for them to get that property," Naguiat told Reuters in an interview. "We told them to put more details into that letter on what they plan to do, and what they intend to do with the property."

Naguiat said his office received the letter from Belle, controlled by the country's richest man Henry Sy, a few weeks ago.

Belle had previously bagged a deal to develop an integrated entertainment resort complex called Belle Grande Manila Bay, which features a 30,000-square metre casino, within the over 100-hectare Entertainment City set to rise in Manila starting late this year.

Source: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/07/12/belle-corp-eyes-1b-leisure-project-govt-official

wino

February 7th, 2012, 09:22 PM

and what do you contribute?? that's right, nothiiiiiing....

his sarcasm.. that's all he does.. :lol:

DCRJ

February 8th, 2012, 12:32 AM

energy168

February 8th, 2012, 04:55 AM

mukhang another casino pa

check this disclosure
http://www2.pse.com.ph/html/disclosure/pdf/2012/pdf/dc2012-1171_BEL.pdf

DCRJ

February 8th, 2012, 06:13 AM

mukhang another casino pa

check this disclosure
http://www2.pse.com.ph/html/disclosure/pdf/2012/pdf/dc2012-1171_BEL.pdf

yan na kaya yung sinasabi nila na Belle Diamant ?
http://www.urbika.com/imgs/projects/large/6256_belle-diamant.jpg

reign

February 8th, 2012, 06:58 AM

Included na cguro itong Belle Diamant together with the Convention center sa BGX Entertainment complex ng Belle Grande.

Bosnyboy

February 8th, 2012, 10:00 AM

yan na kaya yung sinasabi nila na Belle Diamant ?
http://www.urbika.com/imgs/projects/large/6256_belle-diamant.jpg

Hindi, yan ang spaceship na sasakyan natin pag dating ng dec 21, 2012 dahil magugunaw na ang mundo :lol:

junstein

February 8th, 2012, 10:23 AM

manila bay resorts

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9416/mnl3.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9482/mnl.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5545/mnll2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BrzP3vZE-T0/TyEjauZXQfI/AAAAAAAAAxU/IFoBuTlu_uo/s640/glasscorridor_int3.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FOjEdhi5ysc/TyDt2DPpLUI/AAAAAAAAAw0/tJhjqglsq2M/s320/glasscorridor_int4.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Aq2X99G44oY/TyEjt4p6BeI/AAAAAAAAAxc/7ETIRzMQBb4/s640/entrance_ex.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2vUyyrOceRo/TyEjJQ0SHXI/AAAAAAAAAxM/UNRURntEZRQ/s1600/bidgethotel.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AdPq_Ld4dug/TyEj6B-vJkI/AAAAAAAAAxk/EjsaZEkmOgo/s1600/casino_general.jpg
http://intrepidwanderer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tiger_resort.jpg

tyronne

February 8th, 2012, 12:54 PM

Pagcor City aims to trump Las Vegas, even without the Americans
by Lois Calderon, ANC
Posted at 02/08/2012 6:55 PM | Updated as of 02/08/2012 6:55 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/08/12/pagcor-city-aims-trump-las-vegas-even-without-americans

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (PAGCOR) said the 100-hectare entertainment and casino complex it and its four partners are building on Manila Bay will eclipse Las Vegas in terms of revenue in five years’ time.

Macquarie Securities Group estimates Philippine gaming revenues – which count both that of Pagcor and private casino operators like Resorts World – at $1.2 billion last year. Macquarie projects this can match Las Vegas’ annual $6 billion with the help of PAGCOR's Entertainment City.

Hernando, who took office in February last year, said they conducted due diligence on the Entertainment City project and found no irregularities in the issuance of the licenses.

boy_turista

February 8th, 2012, 01:55 PM

Hindi, yan ang spaceship na sasakyan natin pag dating ng dec 21, 2012 dahil magugunaw na ang mundo :lol:

ano yan "joke"???? funny ha! hahahaha.... (kris aquino's sarcasmic comment)

Kintoy

February 8th, 2012, 02:37 PM

mukhang another casino pa

check this disclosure
http://www2.pse.com.ph/html/disclosure/pdf/2012/pdf/dc2012-1171_BEL.pdf

baka wala pa yan sa Flickr :lol:

the glimpser

February 8th, 2012, 03:31 PM

Razon’s Bloombury project on track

SUBIC BAY FREEPORT, Philippines—The construction of the $1-billion resort and hotel complex being developed by the group of businessman Enrique Razon Jr. is on track and will be completed by the end of this year.

Razon is chairman of property developer Sureste Properties Inc. (SPI) and its subsidiary, hotel and resorts owner Bloombury Resorts and Hotels Inc. (BRHI).

Named Solaire Manila Project, Bloombury’s integrated resort complex includes a five-star, 500-room hotel covering some 165,000 square meters of floor area. It broke ground in July 2010.
http://business.inquirer.net/43731/razon%e2%80%99s-bloombury-project-on-track

rain34

February 8th, 2012, 03:33 PM

^^:lol:

pi_malejana

February 8th, 2012, 06:31 PM

his sarcasm.. that's all he does.. :lol:

haha, ganun talaga

noypiblazer

February 9th, 2012, 12:55 AM

mukhang another casino pa

check this disclosure
http://www2.pse.com.ph/html/disclosure/pdf/2012/pdf/dc2012-1171_BEL.pdf

anak ng teteng, another casino nanaman ?? hindi na yata balance ang attractions sa pagcor city ah, puros casino na lang tinatayo nila. sana naman i-regulate or i-control ng pagcor ang pagpapatayo ng casino at sabihan sana ang mga investors na mag dagdag ng THEME PARK, MUSEUMS, OCEANARIUMS or any other attractions for the family (puera ang mga malls ! apaw na ang malls sa atin). akala ko ba pagcor city comprises 3% of casinos lang ??? eh bakit parang casinos bulok lang tinatayo nila? anak ng teteng yang si naguiat aka winnie the pooh, wala talagang VISION hindi tulad ni Efraim Genuino or Butch Francisco...nasaan na yung sinasabi nilang Warner Bros. theme park, Kidzania ? anak ng teteng ! http://www.philstar.com/article.aspx?articleid=521925

pau_p1

February 9th, 2012, 02:21 AM

Pagcor City aims to trump Las Vegas, even without the Americans
by Lois Calderon, ANC
Posted at 02/08/2012 6:55 PM | Updated as of 02/08/2012 6:55 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/08/12/pagcor-city-aims-trump-las-vegas-even-without-americans

adding a quoted item in this article...

Of the 100-hectare Entertainment City, 56 hectares is owned by Pagcor and occupied by Travellers (30.5 hectares) and Bloombury (8.3 hectares). Universal leases its 40 hectares from another landowner, while Belle occupies 6 hectares in owner Henry Sy's Mall of Asia complex.

Hernando told ANC that PAGCOR is negotiating a deal to buy another 15 hectares owned by the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA) and the Nayong Pilipino Foundation. That property is contiguous to the casino complex and would allow Bloombury to expand its area by another 8 hectares, and whatever’s left would be given to Belle Corp.

so it seems that the Nayong Pilipino land there may eventually be taken over by the other proponents then... hmmm...

energy168

February 9th, 2012, 02:35 AM

With that article, dapat MEGA ang expectations natin sa Universal and Travellers since sila yung malalaki ang lupa. The smaller ones, Bloombury and Belle ang mauuna sa pagbukas---- so pang preview lang itong dalawa.

Bosnyboy

February 9th, 2012, 08:30 AM

ano yan "joke"???? funny ha! hahahaha.... (kris aquino's sarcasmic comment)

Of course its a joke, slow mo naman :lol:

mphirez

February 9th, 2012, 01:56 PM

Guyz, sabihin niyo kung approve sa inyo yung statement ng tinatawag niyong winnie the pooh sa article na ito...

Japan inches closer to casino law; Philippines puts Las Vegas on notice
Steven Stradbrooke
February 9, 2012

entertainment-city-manilaJapan could approve the basic framework of casino legislation as early as the end of this month, according to Tokyo-based consultancy Gaming Capital Management (GCM). Inside Asian Gaming reported that GCM was privy to comments made at an internal meeting of the country’s ruling Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ). At that meeting, Kenji Tamura, who chairs the Working Team Considering Integrated Resorts and Casinos, told DPJ members that a subcommittee set up in December to deal with the issue was “set to commence activities soon.”

The new momentum stems from the apparent blessing of the country’s main opposition party, the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan (LDP), at the Working Team’s first meeting of 2012. The DPJ’s Issei Koga said speedy passage of the legislation would be vital for the initiative’s success, in part because of competing projects in neighboring countries. Numerous casino giants, including Las Vegas Sands and Caesars Entertainment, have expressed keen interest in being first to open up in Japan.

The Philippines isn’t waiting for Japan to act. Work on its ambitious 100-hectare Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Entertainment City Manila (ECM) project is underway (artistic impression pictured above), but unlike casino zones in other Asian jurisdictions, ECM is making do without the involvement of western casino companies. Among the four projects that have been given the nod to occupy the ECM zone, only one (Manila Bay Resorts from Japan’s Universal Entertainment) is purely foreign. The others are wholly or partly controlled by locals: Henry “retail king” Sy’s Belle Corp. is constructing the Belle Grande; port terminal magnate Enrique Razon’s Bloombury Investments is behind the Solaire Manila; while Resorts World Manila Bayshore is a product of Travelers International Hotel Group, a JV of Andrew Tan’s Alliance Global Group and Malaysian giant Genting.

American casino firms were reportedly sniffing around the Philippines when the ECM project was first announced in 2007, but never followed through on their initial interest. Their change of heart may have arisen from a perceived conflict of interest in the dual regulator/operator role of the state-owned Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (PAGCOR). PAGCOR chairman/CEO Cristino Naguiat Jr. told Philippines news outlet ANC that such concerns were overblown, as PAGCOR expects to assume more of a pure regulator role (in the Metro Manila region, at least) in the future. Regardless, Naguiat doesn’t feel the Philippines needs/wants any western partners. “Personally, I have no plans of inviting them to come here, invest here. I’d rather deal with our ASEAN partners.”

With the help of those ASEAN partners, Naguiat expects that in five years time the Philippines will become the third Asian jurisdiction (after Macau and Singapore) to surpass Las Vegas in gaming revenue. Something that may help speed that process is the Philippines tolerance of junket operators. While Singapore and the US have demonized junket operators as enabling “terrorist financing activities,” PAGCOR VP of Licensed Casino Development Francis Hernando says his country has sufficient laws in place to deal with money laundering concerns. Macquarie Securities Group researcher Alex Pomento says this “investor-friendly” approach will help the Philippines “niche itself” from the “rigidity in the rules” of Singapore and Macau (and Vegas).

The ECM project is also burnishing the country’s infrastructure, with a light-rail project to get gamblers from airport to hotel and back again with the least amount of fuss. Naguiat says all four ECM partners are “more than willing to fund the skyway” project. With projected annual gaming revenues of $6b once ECM is fully operational, it’s clear they’ll be able to afford a track or two. Too bad the western casino giants got left at the station.

mphirez

February 9th, 2012, 01:58 PM

Belle eyes additional 10 has for 2nd casino at Pagcor City

By Zinnia B. Dela Peña (The Philippine Star) Updated February 09, 2012 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Leisure and gaming firm Belle Corp. is planning to lease a 10-hectare lot within the Pagcor Entertainment City along Manila Bay which it intends to develop into a second casino complex after its Belle Grande Manila Bay project.

In a disclosure to the stock exchange yesterday, Belle corporate secretary A. Bayani K. Tan said the company has requested the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. for a lease proposal on at least 10 hectares of land at the 100-hectare Pagcor Entertainment City but pointed out that no agreement has yet been reached with the government.

Willy N. Ocier, vice-chairman of Belle, said the group would need to shell out $1 billion in fresh capital for the new 10-hectare site should Pagcor accept its proposal.

Ocier said Belle is now accelerating the development of its $750-million integrated resort complex, Belle Grande Manila Bay, which is slated for a grand opening in 2013.

Upon completion, Belle Grande will be offering a total of 880 hotel rooms under three brands of five-star and six-star quality, and will have a total gaming area of 19,626 square meters with 350 gaming tables and 1,900 slot machines. The first floor will cater to the mass market while over 6,000 sqm of space will cater to VIPs.

The group is looking to build an all-suites hotel to be managed by the Raintree Group of Discovery.

Aside from Belle, other franchise holders for the Pagcor Entertainment City are Japan’s Aruze Group, Andrea Tan’s Megaworld and Bloomberg Resorts of businessman Enrique Razon Jr.

The country is seeking to make gaming one of the pillars of the tourism industry as it eyes to corner at least 10 percent of the $115-billion global gaming pie.

Asia Pacific is seen as the fastest-growing region for casino gaming spending over the next five years and even surpass the United States as the world’s largest casino gaming market.

Growth in Asia Pacific would mainly be driven by the region’s economic growth and the subsequent rise in disposable income and growing interest by people for gambling.

Asia is forecast to chalk in revenues of $79.3 billion in 2015, up from $ 34.3 billion in 2010, with a compound annual growth rate of 18.3 percent.

noypiblazer

February 9th, 2012, 02:49 PM

Guyz, sabihin niyo kung approve sa inyo yung statement ng tinatawag niyong winnie the pooh sa article na ito...

American casino firms were reportedly sniffing around the Philippines when the ECM project was first announced in 2007, but never followed through on their initial interest. Their change of heart may have arisen from a perceived conflict of interest in the dual regulator/operator role of the state-owned Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (PAGCOR). PAGCOR chairman/CEO Cristino Naguiat Jr. told Philippines news outlet ANC that such concerns were overblown, as PAGCOR expects to assume more of a pure regulator role (in the Metro Manila region, at least) in the future. Regardless, Naguiat doesn’t feel the Philippines needs/wants any western partners. “Personally, I have no plans of inviting them to come here, invest here. I’d rather deal with our ASEAN partners.”

si Winnie the Pooh talaga oh, halatang nagtatampo sa mga westerners, hindi dapat magmatigas si winnie the pooh, we need those westerners kasi sila may hawak ng Planet Hollywood, sila ang may hawak ng Warner Bros., hindi tama yang ginagawa ni winnie the pooh...dapat maging humble ka winnie the pooh, kainin mo ang pride mo. kung nasaktan ka sa ginawa ng mga westerners nung una the time right now is different, diba winnie the pooh !

Baby_face

February 9th, 2012, 02:51 PM

Narnian_King

February 9th, 2012, 03:00 PM

noypiblazer

February 9th, 2012, 03:04 PM

IMO, this development is too idealistic. It could very well be a white elephant. Why would Chinese gamblers come if they do so closer to home in Macau and safely in Singapore especially against the backdrop of possibly tense Sino-Phil relationship? Besides, Phil has been a laggard compared to her neighbors in terms of infrastructure development and poorly-addressed security concerns and has not been on the radar screen of both tourists and foreign investors alike for decades. It’s naive to assume that these gamblers and tourists would flock here in droves out of a sudden despite their new-found prosperity. There will be many other more attractive places to splurge. All this could do is to induce the populace especially retirees to spend all day in the casinos gambling away their meager life savings and serve as a hotbed for vice activities with lacklustre profits and economic benefits.

sagutin ko lang itong si bebe pes, Why would Chinese gamblers come if they do so closer to home in Macau and safely in Singapore especially against the backdrop of possibly tense Sino-Phil relationship? ANSWER: simple, they will come because of the friendliness of the filipinos...people in macau and singapore are the most snubbish peeps in the world. It’s naive to assume that these gamblers and tourists would flock here in droves out of a sudden despite their new-found prosperity. they will flock here initially for the casinos then they will go to far flung destinations like palawan, tagaytay...macau and singapore doesn't have volcanoes my bebe pes.

reign

February 9th, 2012, 04:20 PM

Correct ! The success of Resorts World Manila is very encouraging thats why they will build a bigger and more grandeur Resorts World Bayshore. Kahit nga yung SM/Belle Group hindi pa nag operate yung Belle Grande gusto na agad magtayo ng second casino complex.

Resorts World Manila ang sagot sa iyo. :lol:

watcher09

February 9th, 2012, 04:27 PM

IMO, this development is too idealistic. It could very well be a white elephant. Why would Chinese gamblers come if they do so closer to home in Macau and safely in Singapore especially against the backdrop of possibly tense Sino-Phil relationship? Besides, Phil has been a laggard compared to her neighbors in terms of infrastructure development and poorly-addressed security concerns and has not been on the radar screen of both tourists and foreign investors alike for decades. It’s naive to assume that these gamblers and tourists would flock here in droves out of a sudden despite their new-found prosperity. There will be many other more attractive places to splurge. All this could do is to induce the populace especially retirees to spend all day in the casinos gambling away their meager life savings and serve as a hotbed for vice activities with lacklustre profits and economic benefits.

1. Chinese are not allowed to do gaming in Macau anytime they want. There are limits.
2. Gamers have the habit of going places, trying their luck in other gaming stations.
3. Costs of food, entertainment, accommodations, travel, services, etc. are seen lower in Manila than other gaming destinations.
4. Gamers are also expected to visit tourist places in PH.
5. Vietnam is building one, why can't we?
6. Your attitude is like those who opposed and criticized the proposal of building EDSA decades ago, Henry Sy on building SM North EDSA in the 80s, Andrew Tan on building Eastwood duing the Asian financial crisis, Alfredo Ramos of National BS on buying grassy lands worth millions within the now Ortigas Center many years ago, Henry Sy again on building a monstrous mall at the now MOA complex, etc.

It takes guts and visions. We must not be stuck to our comfort zones. Let's wait if you would be right, though, I don't count on it.

watcher09

February 9th, 2012, 04:30 PM

Jose Mari

February 9th, 2012, 04:43 PM

Regardless, Naguiat doesn’t feel the Philippines needs/wants any western partners. “Personally, I have no plans of inviting them to come here, invest here. I’d rather deal with our ASEAN partners.”

I think that's a stupid statement from Naguiat, sorry. Even our "ASEAN partners" have dealings with these popular western partners. Just look at Singapore. The other neighbors would gladly welcome these giant western entertainment companies and let them have a presence in their shores as well. They know they could attract more tourists that way.

Remember di lang tayo may ganyang klaseng projects. Magpapakulelat nanaman ba tayo sa mga counterpart versions nito sa ASEAN? Ang bobo naman...
:ohno:

wino

February 9th, 2012, 06:19 PM

rain34

February 9th, 2012, 11:07 PM

pau_p1

February 10th, 2012, 02:23 AM

1. Chinese are not allowed to do gaming in Macau anytime they want. There are limits.
2. Gamers have the habit of going places, trying their luck in other gaming stations.
3. Costs of food, entertainment, accommodations, travel, services, etc. are seen lower in Manila than other gaming destinations.
4. Gamers are also expected to visit tourist places in PH.
5. Vietnam is building one, why can't we?
6. Your attitude is like those who opposed and criticized the proposal of building EDSA decades ago, Henry Sy on building SM North EDSA in the 80s, Andrew Tan on building Eastwood duing the Asian financial crisis, Alfredo Ramos of National BS on buying grassy lands worth millions within the now Ortigas Center many years ago, Henry Sy again on building a monstrous mall at the now MOA complex, etc.

It takes guts and visions. We must not be stuck to our comfort zones. Let's wait if you would be right, though, I don't count on it.

very well said! :cheers:

Bosnyboy

February 10th, 2012, 03:46 AM

Naguiat doesn’t feel the Philippines needs/wants any western partners. “Personally, I have no plans of inviting them to come here, invest here. I’d rather deal with our ASEAN partners.

What an arrogant thing to say from the highest official of pagcor!! Why is everybody in this admin soo arrogant?? Why cant they be more diplomatic. Naguiat must not underestimate the kind of investment and draw these las vegas operators can offer. Really stupid thing to say. He doesnt deserve to be in office, hes a real PR nightmare.

ryanr

February 10th, 2012, 04:01 AM

well... because...

It's More FUN in the Philippines!

:)

:lol::lol: This.

rain34

February 10th, 2012, 08:55 AM

What an arrogant thing to say from the highest official of pagcor!! Why is everybody in this admin soo arrogant?? Why cant they be more diplomatic. Naguiat must not underestimate the kind of investment and draw these las vegas operators can offer. Really stupid thing to say. He doesnt deserve to be in office, hes a real PR nightmare.

do you really have to believe all the papers say? it could be true or it could also be not

noypiblazer

February 10th, 2012, 10:03 AM

do you really have to believe all the papers say? it could be true or it could also be not

it's true, sinabi talaga ni winnie the pooh yan

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/422957_295475843840221_100001334243963_773630_1925656820_n.jpg

xxxriainxxx

February 10th, 2012, 01:27 PM

IMO, this development is too idealistic. It could very well be a white elephant. Why would Chinese gamblers come if they do so closer to home in Macau and safely in Singapore especially against the backdrop of possibly tense Sino-Phil relationship? Besides, Phil has been a laggard compared to her neighbors in terms of infrastructure development and poorly-addressed security concerns and has not been on the radar screen of both tourists and foreign investors alike for decades. It’s naive to assume that these gamblers and tourists would flock here in droves out of a sudden despite their new-found prosperity. There will be many other more attractive places to splurge. All this could do is to induce the populace especially retirees to spend all day in the casinos gambling away their meager life savings and serve as a hotbed for vice activities with lacklustre profits and economic benefits.

Saang tumbong mo na naman yan nabunot yang opinyon na yan.:lol::lol::lol: Wag mong maliitin ang Pilipinas- tourism receipts indicate that tourists spend more per day in PHL than in other ASEAN countries. Yung Sino-PHL tensions na yan, wa epek yan sa mga turista- there are even direct flights to KLO from Beijing, Shanghai and soon, HK despite the black alert.

And this rambling about vices. Ano ka ba CBCP? :lol::lol::lol:

Bosnyboy

February 10th, 2012, 02:21 PM

do you really have to believe all the papers say? it could be true or it could also be not

Ok remind me to blame the writer then. But since its a published article, we assumed that it went thru the usual editorial and verifying process, therefore we have to believe what is written in the article. So how can we distinguish whether an article is true or not then?

boy_turista

February 10th, 2012, 04:24 PM

Ok remind me to blame the writer then. But since its a published article, we assumed that it went thru the usual editorial and verifying process, therefore we have to believe what is written in the article. So how can we distinguish whether an article is true or not then?

This comment of yours shows how BABAW you are. Ang dali mong maniwala koya!:lol:

rain34

February 11th, 2012, 10:36 AM

Ok remind me to blame the writer then. But since its a published article, we assumed that it went thru the usual editorial and verifying process, therefore we have to believe what is written in the article. So how can we distinguish whether an article is true or not then?

I am just saying, if the article is pro-admin you will believe it? if it is anti-admin? but if your are very sure that it is accurate like for example you yourself heard it from him then fine your reaction is valid.

crossboneka

February 11th, 2012, 05:58 PM

taken yesterday. so belle will be cladded in gold?
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8651/110220122161.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6271/110220122159b.jpg

Solaire
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5973/110220122155.jpg

epik ll ian

February 11th, 2012, 06:36 PM

Here's something I find weird about Filipino sketches of future developments: All the people are white ....

filcan

February 11th, 2012, 06:47 PM

I wish we could get a picture of the cladding. Does it glitter in the sunlight?

pau_p1

February 12th, 2012, 02:36 AM

Here's something I find weird about Filipino sketches of future developments: All the people are white ....

i think that's not limited to Filipino designs... i think most of the images they used are images from magazines..

manila2020

February 12th, 2012, 02:52 AM

Belle casino needs to update their design! Manila Bay Resorts will put Belle out of business! What more if RW Bayshore released its official render!

manila2020

February 12th, 2012, 02:52 AM

Nasasayangan din ako sa Solemare... ang understated ng design nya for a grand development.

noypiblazer

February 12th, 2012, 03:02 AM

Nasasayangan din ako sa Solemare... ang understated ng design nya for a grand development.

Solemare ? maybe you meant SOLAIRE...iba po yung Solemare, si Angel Locsin ang promo girl nila dun :lol:

noypiblazer

February 12th, 2012, 03:08 AM

Belle casino needs to update their design! Manila Bay Resorts will put Belle out of business! What more if RW Bayshore released its official render!

well, I think Manila Bay Resorts will complement Belle Grande and so will Solaire. para sa akin, all the 4 proponents is a casino complex done inside a grand package. kapag sawa na ako sa MBR duon naman ako sa Belle, kapag sawa na ako sa Belle duon naman ako sa Solaire then RWBayshore...tourists will spend at least a week in Pagcor city and SM Mall of Asia complex before packing up for Boracay or Palawan....it's all good for our beloved Philippines.

manila2020

February 12th, 2012, 03:08 AM

Solemare ? maybe you meant SOLAIRE...iba po yung Solemare, si Angel Locsin ang promo girl nila dun :lol:

HAHAHAHAHA. SORRY!!! Naguluhan na ko!! Oo, yun na nga SOLAIRE!! hahaha

manila2020

February 12th, 2012, 03:09 AM

well, I think Manila Bay Resorts will complement Belle Grande and so will Solaire. para sa akin, all the 4 proponents is a casino complex done inside a grand package. kapag sawa na ako sa MBR duon naman ako sa Belle, kapag sawa na ako sa Belle duon naman ako sa Solaire...tourists will spend at least a week in Pagcor city and SM Mall of Asia complex before packing up for Boracay or Palawan

ang tanong lang, what to expect sa Belle Grande? if Belle Diamant pushes through, it will definitely rival that of MBR and Solaire!

pau_p1

February 12th, 2012, 03:36 AM

and well.. since the four proponents were managed or organized all together by PAGCOR.. i would assume that they are making all the projects not to fully compete with each other but also complement each for connectivity and as a whole package...

El_Toro

February 12th, 2012, 06:57 AM

yes i agree the 4 projects i think will only compete on there casino operations but they will surely offer consumers with different kinds of amenities and entertainment facilities...

GreenRadiation

February 12th, 2012, 09:23 AM

I wish we could get a picture of the cladding. Does it glitter in the sunlight?

The podium cladding does not glitter. :/

noli-kun

February 12th, 2012, 02:46 PM

taken yesterday. so belle will be cladded in gold?
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8651/110220122161.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6271/110220122159b.jpg

Might be. The render drawings (though in a nighttime view) show Belle Grande swathed in golden cladding.

DCRJ

February 14th, 2012, 02:55 AM

Razon group wants to lease more reclaimed land in Manila Bay area
MONDAY, 13 FEBRUARY 2012 19:33 MIGUEL R. CAMUS / REPORTER

THE group of businessman Enrique Razon Jr. is in negotiations with the government to lease additional land at the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp.’s (Pagcor) Entertainment City at the Manila Bay reclamation area.

The group, which is already building a casino and hotel project in the area, wants additional land to “allow for the expansion of hotel space that Pagcor now requires for the project,” a Philippine Stock Exchange filing made by Razon-led Active Alliance Inc. (AAI) said on Monday.

The gaming regulator wants licensees within the Entertainment City to build at least 800 hotel rooms before being allowed to open their respective casino facilities.

AAI is the backdoor listing vehicle for Razon’s hotel and casino venture held under Sureste Properites Inc. and its subsidiary Bloomberry Resorts and Hotels Inc. The project, to be known as Solaire Manila, would require investments of at least $1 billion.

http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/companies/23206-razon-group-wants-to-lease-more-reclaimed-land-in-manila-bay-area

El_Toro

February 14th, 2012, 06:41 AM

nice 2 na sila ngaapply ng additional land for expansion, good indication yan khit ndin pa ngstart yung operation ng casinos nila aggressive sila to expand more...

noypiblazer

February 15th, 2012, 03:16 AM

sa opinyon ko, sana magconstruct na rin sila ng monorail or a cable car connecting Pagcor city, SM Mall of Asia Complex, Manila Ocean Park, or better...up to the Mind Museum para convenient para sa ating mga turista....I know we are all lazy to ride the taxi to get to our destination of choice kaya nga nag punta mga turista sa Pilipinas para mag relax hindi para magpakadalubhasa sa pagsakay ng taxi, minsan corrupt pa yung mga taxi drivers sa pinas....LOL. maganda siguro pag may monorail or cable car moving back and forth from pagcor city to manila ocean park, gandang tanawin ang roxas boulevard nyan...sana magkaruon ng vision si winnie the pooh aka bong naguiat or sa kaklase nya na si homer simpson aka noynoy kalbo...LOL

sun-tex

February 15th, 2012, 06:52 AM

a monorail line from luneta park-SM belle(roxas blvd-ccp-macapagal blvd line)

DCRJ

February 16th, 2012, 12:59 AM

Efficiency is slow-paced when it comes to resolving issues by the Aquino administration as seen in previous administration...kumbaga, usad pagong ! we know that the project will come into fruition sometime in the future, what's really disturbing is the time period gone wasted on neverending unresolved "issues"

^^ yun lang NAIA Expressway II inabot na ng siyam siyam what more kung magtayo pa ng monorail system

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Issues Stalling 8 PPP Projects
Manila Bulletin – Tue, Feb 14, 2012

MANILA, Philippines - Under pressure to show concrete accomplishments after having been in office for 18 months, the Aquino administration is trying to assess the status of 8 PPP projects that are still being bogged down by unresolved issues.

For the NAIA Expressway II, the PPPC said that new implementation structure and alignment was presented to DPWH last January 18.

Outstanding issues on this particular project include the nominal recovery of Pagcor 's contribution. This issue is still under study. The proposed new alignment to Macapagal Ave/Pagcor City is also still being finalized. Agreements between Pagcor /Locators and Pagcor /DPHW are being drafted.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/issues-stalling-8-ppp-projects-195034538.html

pau_p1

February 16th, 2012, 01:54 AM

Bosnyboy

February 16th, 2012, 02:11 AM

i think it's unfair to blame Aquino for this.. as remember the Pagcor project has been there since the last administration... even previous administrations had very slow progress...

Im sorry but i think what you mention is a very poor excuse. This govt has shown that it can speed things up if they really wanted to. It showed during the attempted escape of gma, doj sec de lima even disobeyed the supreme courts tro and ordered airport authorities to stop the former pres from leaving. The speed of the filing of the impeachment article to the senate is also a proof of the ability of the pnoy admin to speed things up if they really wanted to. Pnoy is in office for 2 years now, 2 years to fix things up, even the airport is still in CAT1 status, and its an important matter for the country. The ppp projects announced during the first sona is still not moving saved for 1 ppp successfully bidded out but turns out it has a major problems regarding road alignment and is back for review.

Kung mabagal yung former admin, pnoy has a chance to correct this and speed it up, e diba PNOY runs for presidecy on the platform of CHANGE.

DCRJ

February 16th, 2012, 04:15 AM

pau_p1

February 16th, 2012, 04:34 AM

yes, I did say even previous administrations not only P-Noy's, backread please. The De Lima speeding things up with the TRO is a different situation. What I have observe, when it comes to PPP projects there are indeed blocks to hurdle not only in P-Noy's govt but also in previous govt. The article I posted says it all, P-Noy's admin are under pressure and they can't speed things up when it comes to PPP projects. Like what I have said, 'usad pagong' as ever whether it's the old and the new administration.

Okay.. sorry my mistake.. i misread your statement... i just sounded like it's only for this admin.... anyways... too much bureaucracy in our goverment has been delaying these projects...

it's just that this Pagcor city project is a bit different from the infrastracture projects that the government need to focus as this is more of a private engagement with oversight of the government...

@bosnyboy... again.. i don't think is fair to just say this current admin is slow.. in terms of the progress of PAGCOR city as this has been there since GMA's admin.... but i won't disagree on other aspects of the current admin...

InfinitiFX45

February 16th, 2012, 05:49 PM

Bagong Nayong Pilipino Entertainment City (PAGCOR City) 2012 Updates

by Ian | Freedom Wall | Sunday | February 12, 2012

http://www.freedomwall.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/PAGCOR-City.jpg
Bagong Nayong Pilipino Entertainment City Manila, also called Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City or simply PAGCOR City, is a Las Vegas-like, multi-billion dollar entertainment development at the 100-hectare reclaimed land in Parañaque City, an area south of Mall of Asia. The master plan was shown to the public early 2007 which was initiated by the former PAGCOR Chairman Efraim Geniuno.

The US$20B project initially includes a 665-m (2,182-ft) tall PAGCOR Observatory Tower, believed to become the second tallest structure is the world after Burj Khalifa; a breathtaking Manila Eye, Philippine version of London Eye; a high-speed monorail transit, which will connect the main hub to the airport; PAGCOR Arena; residential complexes; integrated shopping complex; commercial and financial centers; deluxe hotels; casinos and resorts.

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Aseana City Artist Rendition (credit to:http://www.aseanacity.com/)

Since the government doesn’t have enough money to make this dream development a reality, the help of investors are much needed. Philippines’ SM Investment Corp., Bloombury Investments Holdings, Inc. and Alliance Global Group Inc., Japan’s Aruze Corporation (now known as Universal Entertainment Corp.) and Malaysia’s Genting Berhad (through Hongkong Genting which tied with Alliance Global to form Travellers International Hotel Group) are few of the prominent names in real estate and community development field that fill the list of stakeholders.

List below show the updates of the project. The Development name is linked to the latest news regarding the updates of the project.

Read More: http://www.freedomwall.net/2012/02/bagong-nayong-pilipino-entertainment-city-2012-updates/

maximizer101

February 17th, 2012, 02:39 PM

Since the picture above shows the RMS Titanic at the background, just an idea...Why not make a replica of RMS Titanic (of the same scale) floating just around the manila bay?? :):):nuts:...

helorider14

February 17th, 2012, 04:31 PM

Since the picture above shows the RMS Titanic at the background, just an idea...Why not make a replica of RMS Titanic (of the same scale) floating just around the manila bay?? :):):nuts:...

May proposed Titanic Casino sa Vegas noon.

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junex

February 18th, 2012, 02:53 AM

Based on the updated PAGCOR article, it is clear that they will pursue the observation tower, manila eye & monorail

watcher09

February 18th, 2012, 05:08 AM

Based on the updated PAGCOR article, it is clear that they will pursue the observation tower, manila eye & monorail

But who's gonna build that? In the original render it was positioned at the end of the canal fronting RW and Aruze. The article says "initially includes".

pinas4real

February 20th, 2012, 07:54 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/wynn-accuses-top-shareholder-buys-stake-061336259.html

Wynn accuses top shareholder, buys out his stake
By Martinne Geller and Farah Master | Reuters*–*14 mins ago

REUTERS/Tyrone*…
NEW YORK/HONG KONG (Reuters) - Wynn Resorts Ltd Chief Executive Steve Wynn upped the ante in his fight against former business partner Kazuo Okada, accusing the Japanese gaming mogul of improper payments to foreign gaming regulators and forcibly buying back Okada's 20 percent stake in the casino company at a deep discount.
As shares in Okada's Universal Entertainment tumbled 21 percent, he denounced the move as "outrageous," vowed to block it, and called for independent oversight of the Wynn Resorts board.
The latest fiery exchange from the Las Vegas casino tycoon and Okada, 69, a Hong Kong resident who is building his own casino in the Philippines, is the most dramatic since they fell out publicly in January, and has significant implications on their respective business empires.

Bosnyboy

February 20th, 2012, 08:22 AM

http://www.rappler.com/business/1642-pagcor-got-bribes-from-casino-operator

MANILA, Philippines - Las Vegas resort-casino operator Wynn Resorts ousted its main shareholder over findings that cash payments and gifts valued at about $110,000 were made to Philippine officials for an upcoming casino project in Manila Bay.

On Sunday, February 19, Wynn Resorts issued a statement that it has forcibly redeemed the shares of Japanese businessman Kazuo Okada and required that he immediately step down from the company's board.

This was considered a surprise weekend attack after Okada, the head of giant gaming device maker Universal Entertainment Corp. and one of Asia's richest, sued Wynn on Thursday, February 16, over not having access to intenal financial reports on a US$135 million donation made by Wynn to University of Macau. A complaint has been filed at the US Securities and Exchange Commission.

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More bad news...

Casinos are never clean.

DCRJ

February 20th, 2012, 09:49 AM

^^ that's bad news. I hope Mr. Okada got enough funds for the Manila Bay Resorts contruction and hoping that Manila Bay Resorts won't be tainted with that $110,000 'donations' to Pagcor officials, will really give a bad image and bad reputation. I wonder what will happen with the Universal Entertainment website now that Mr. Okada has been ousted from Wynn....

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manila2020

February 20th, 2012, 10:22 AM

I hope this project is still a go!!

Jose Mari

February 20th, 2012, 12:43 PM

Based on the updated PAGCOR article, it is clear that they will pursue the observation tower, manila eye & monorail

Do you mean that blog? Isn't that just an independent effort set up to keep track of Entertainment City projects? If you read carefully there's a status list below where the Pagcor Tower is said to be "scrapped." So what made you think the tower would still push through?

watcher09

February 20th, 2012, 12:58 PM

I hope this project is still a go!!

I think it is. There is now a compelling reason why Okada has to go against Macau casinos.

reign

February 20th, 2012, 05:17 PM

BusinessWorld
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Posted on February 20, 2012 10:35:40 PM

Casino investor accused of bribing PAGCOR

CASINO OPERATOR Wynn Resorts Ltd. has accused a former director, now behind an upcoming project along Manila Bay, of bribing the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (PAGCOR) for licenses.

Wynn Resorts issued a statement yesterday saying it forcibly redeemed the 20% stake of former Director Kazuo Okada as he was found “unsuitable” after an independent review revealed at least $110,000 illicit cash payments and gifts made by Mr. Okada and associates to Philippine gaming regulators.

Mr. Okada now leads Universal Entertainment and Aruze USA, Inc., a unit of which is set to invest $2 billion for a casino resort development project in a 45-hectare reclamation land in Manila.

“Mr. Okada and associates and companies appear to have engaged in a long-standing practice of making payments and gifts to his two chief gaming regulators at the PAGCOR, who directly oversee and regulated Mr. Okada’s provisional licensing agreement to operate in that country,” a statement from Wynn Resorts read.

“The Board has requested Mr. Okada resign as director of Wynn Resorts,” it added.

Wynn Resorts has also bought back Mr. Okada’s P24 million shares held by Aruze.

PAGCOR Chairman and Chief Executive Cristino L. Naguiat, Jr., for his part said that “other than complimentary accommodations granted, no gifts in cash or in kind were received by officials” during his tenure.

The complimentary accommodations are unlikely to have amounted to $110,000 considering that there were only at least three official visits by PAGCOR executives in Macau and Las Vegas combined.

As for the period from 2008 to June 2010 only the previous management of PAGCOR can answer that,” Mr. Naguiat said in a statement.

The gaming regulator added that Mr. Okada visited PAGCOR yesterday, apologizing for being dragged into the controversy while calling the alleged $110,000 bribe to PAGCOR “inaccurate.” -- Noemi M. Gonzales

InfinitiFX45

February 20th, 2012, 06:14 PM

Pagcor implicated in bribery :ohno: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Manila Standard Today | Tuesday | February 21, 2012

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File photo shows Las Vegas casino mogul Steve Winn (right) talking with his business partner Kazuo Okada during a Gaming Commission hearing in Carson City, Nevada. Wynn Resorts says it forcibly bought back shares from its biggest stakeholder after finding the Japanese tycoon made improper payments to gambling regulators. AP

NEW YORK— Wynn Resorts Ltd. is looking to sever ties with its biggest stakeholder and one-time ally.

The Las Vegas casino operator said Sunday that it forcibly bought back all the shares controlled by Kazuo Okada after finding the Japanese tycoon made improper payments to overseas gambling regulators. The company also filed a lawsuit against Okada for breach of fiduciary duty and asked him resign from its board.

The announcement marked the latest deterioration of Okada’s relationship with Steve Wynn, founder of Wynn Resorts.

Okada is the founder of casino game maker Universal Entertainment Corp., which held an almost 20-percent stake in Wynn Resorts through its privately-held subsidiary Aruze USA Inc.

Aruze’s 24 million shares were worth about $2.7 billion based on Friday’s closing price and were acquired for the discounted price of about $1.9 billion.

The actions by Wynn Resorts stem from a separate casino resort project Okada is undertaking in the Philippines.

After a year-long investigation, Wynn Resorts said it found more than three dozen instances over a three-year period in which Okada and his associates engaged in “improper activities for their own benefit.”

That included cash payments and gifts totaling about $110,000 to foreign gaming regulators, the company said. Wynn Resorts said the actions were in violation of US anti-corruption law.

The investigation, which was led by a former FBI director Louis Freeh, also found Okada and his associates consciously took actions to conceal “the nature and amount of these payments,” Wynn said.

“Mr. Okada and his associates and companies appear to have engaged in a longstanding practice of making payments and gifts to his two chief gaming regulators at the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp., who directly oversee and regulated Mr. Okada’s provisional licensing agreement to operate in that country,” according to the Freeh report.

Based on the report, Wynn Resorts said its board found that Okada was “unsuitable.” The company’s articles of incorporation provide for redemption at “fair value” of the shares held by unsuitable individuals.

The company issued a 10-year, $1.9-billion promissory note in redemption of the shares. The notes bear an interest rate of 2 percent.

Wynn said it will also immediately recommend that Okada be removed from the board of its Hong Kong subsidiary, Wynn Macau Limited.

An e-mail sent to Aruze seeking comment from Okada was not immediately returned.

Since 2000, Okada has invested $380 million in Wynn Resorts. But last month, Okada filed a lawsuit against the company to seek financial documents regarding Wynn’s $135-million donation to the University of Macau; its 2010 amendment to a shareholders agreement among Okada, company founder Steve Wynn and Wynn’s ex-wife, Elaine Wynn; and the use of $30 million that Okada gave to Wynn Resorts in 2002 to help develop a Macau casino project. AP

Source: http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusiness_mstd.htm?f=//2012/february/21/business1.isx&n=business&d=/2012/february/21

romzangelo25

February 20th, 2012, 06:23 PM

February 19, 2012 Pictures. i have been a lurker here for almost half a year, i would like to contribute some photos :)

SOLAIRE MANILA CONSTRUCTION
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romzangelo25

February 20th, 2012, 06:24 PM

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InfinitiFX45

February 20th, 2012, 06:24 PM

Cash gifts to officials inaccurate—Naguiat :ohno: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Manila Standard Today | Tuesday | February 21, 2012

Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. said Monday the $110,000 in cash gifts given to PAGCOR officials as alleged by Wynn Resorts are inaccurate.

PAGCOR chairman and chief executive Cristino Naguiat Jr. said Wynn Resorts co-founder Kazuo Okada informed him that the amount “represented various accommodations granted to Okada’s business associates not only from the Philippines but from other countries as well from 2008 to 2011.”

Naguiat said Okada visited the PAGCOR office Monday to apologize for the inclusion of the state-run gaming agency and its officials in the aftermath of a shareholders’ battle.

Okada’s company, Aruze USA Inc., in 2008 received a provisional license to operate an integrated resort and casino in the proposed Entertainment City Manila in Pasay City from the previous PAGCOR management.

Naguiat conceded that “complimentary accommodations are granted to casino executives from other gaming destinations” as “part of standard industry courtesy and reciprocity.”

He said PAGCOR extends the same courtesy to visiting casino executives whenever they visit the Philippines.

Naguiat, however, stressed that other than complimentary accommodations granted, no gifts in cash or in kind were received by PAGCOR officials during his tenure.

“Although admittedly PAGCOR officials received complimentary accommodations from Wynn Resorts, it is highly unlikely that the same amounted to $110,000 from July 2010 up to the present considering that there were only at least three official visits by Pagcor executives in Macau and Las Vegas combined. As for the period from 2008 to June 2010, only the previous management of Pagcor can answer that,” he said.

romzangelo25

February 20th, 2012, 06:26 PM

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romzangelo25

February 20th, 2012, 06:27 PM

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romzangelo25

February 20th, 2012, 06:29 PM

....

NOVO ECIJANO

February 20th, 2012, 07:31 PM

hulog ka ng langit,salamat napakaganda ng mga photos mo.

pinas4real

February 20th, 2012, 08:10 PM

Some Good News:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/20/us-philippines-idUSTRE81J0I820120220

(Reuters) - It is getting busy in Cristino Naguiat's spacious 5th-floor office overlooking Manila Bay.

The chairman of gambling regulator Philippine Amusement & Gaming Corp is fielding calls and booking appointments to meet possible investors in a sprawling gambling and entertainment project his government hopes will rival Las Vegas in five years.

Among them: Casino billionaire Francis Lui of Galaxy Entertainment Group Ltd and executives from Melco Crown Entertainment Ltd, controlled by Australian billionaire James Packer and the son of Macau gambling mogul Stanley Ho.

"There is growing interest. The fact that in just two weeks I have had two visitors from big companies in Macau says something about it," said Naguiat, a veteran of the gaming industry.

InfinitiFX45

February 20th, 2012, 09:42 PM

CORRECTED-INSIGHT-Philippines tries new tack: healthy man of Asia :)

by Rosemarie Francisco and Jason Szep | Reuters | Monday | Feb 20, 2012 | 6:30am EST

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20120220&t=2&i=572995951&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=BTRE81J0SVE00

MANILA Feb 20 (Reuters) - It is getting busy in Cristino Naguiat's spacious 5th-floor office overlooking Manila Bay.

The chairman of gambling regulator Philippine Amusement & Gaming Corp is fielding calls and booking appointments to meet possible investors in a sprawling gambling and entertainment project his government hopes will rival Las Vegas in five years.

Among them: Casino billionaire Francis Lui of Galaxy Entertainment Group Ltd and executives from Melco Crown Entertainment Ltd, controlled by Australian billionaire James Packer and the son of Macau gambling mogul Stanley Ho.

"There is growing interest. The fact that in just two weeks I have had two visitors from big companies in Macau says something about it," said Naguiat, a veteran of the gaming industry.

"Investors are having a second look at the Philippines. The fundamentals are very good."

The Philippines, the perennial "sick man of Asia", has rarely looked healthier and investors are placing their bets.

Its stock market, the best performer in Asia last year, is up nearly 13 percent this year to a record high on Monday. Benchmark 10-year government bond yields are down about 44 basis points, as prices jump. Overseas buying of Philippine stocks hit a record $938 million in the fourth quarter, and the pace has quickened this year, according to TrimTabs Investment Research.

Economic growth is projected at about 4 percent despite global headwinds, about middle for the region. Easing inflation, among the lowest in Southeast Asia at 3.9 percent in January, gives the central bank room to cut rates by at least another quarter-point this year. Infrastructure spending is rising.

Read More: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/20/philippines-idUSL4E8DH7SF20120220

InfinitiFX45

February 20th, 2012, 10:46 PM

Wynn accuses top shareholder, buys out his stake :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

By Martinne Geller and Farah Master | NEW YORK/HONG KONG | Monday | Feb 20, 2012 | 5:04am EST

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20120219&t=2&i=572785325&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=BTRE81I1EVF00

NEW YORK/HONG KONG (Reuters) - Wynn Resorts Ltd Chief Executive Steve Wynn upped the ante in his fight against former business partner Kazuo Okada, accusing the Japanese gaming mogul of improper payments to foreign gaming regulators and forcibly buying back Okada's 20 percent stake in the casino company at a deep discount.

As shares in Okada's Universal Entertainment tumbled 21 percent, he denounced the move as "outrageous," vowed to block it and called for independent oversight of the Wynn Resorts board.

The latest fiery exchange between the Las Vegas casino tycoon and Okada, 69, a Hong Kong resident who is building his own casino in the Philippines, is the most dramatic since they fell out publicly in January, and has significant implications on their respective business empires.

Both self-made billionaires claim the other made improper payments to win favor in their respective Macau and Philippines markets.

Asia is the world's fastest growing gaming region, with Macau earning five times the revenue of Vegas and the Philippines rapidly developing.

Wynn said its board had decided Okada was "unsuitable" after reviewing an internal company report. That report said internal investigators found more than three dozen instances over three years in which Okada and his associates allegedly engaged in "improper activities for their own benefit in apparent violation of U.S. anti-corruption laws."

The Wynn report followed a year-long investigation by several outside investigators, including a former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), hired by a company compliance committee to scrutinize Okada and his associates.

Shares in Wynn Macau rose 3 percent, in line with Hong Kong-listed casino peers.

'OUTRAGEOUS MOVE'

Okada's Universal Entertainment Corp said in an email it was not given an opportunity to review the internal report and called it "outrageous."

"It is now more evident than ever that additional independent oversight is needed on the Wynn Resorts Board. Universal Entertainment will take all legal actions necessary to protect its investment and prevent a forced redemption of its shares," Universal Entertainment said.

A source close to Wynn said Okada had known about the investigation by the Wynn Resort board when it was commissioned over a year ago.

Okada, Wynn's largest shareholder who made his own fortune off pachinko machines -- a cross between pinball and slots -- sued Wynn in January for denying him financial information related to a $135 million donation the company made to the University of Macau, which he had termed "inappropriate."

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is now looking into the donation.

Wynn has accused Okada, who is constructing a $2 billion casino in the Philippines, of improper cash payments and gifts totaling about $110,000 to foreign gaming regulators. So far there has been no formal regulatory investigation into Okada's business in the Philippines.

Cristino Naguiat, chairman of Philippines government regulator PAGCOR, said its officials had not received gifts in cash or any kind during his tenure which began in 2010, according to a statement emailed by PAGCOR. He added that it was customary to provide complimentary accommodation to visiting casino executives and PAGCOR did so in the Philippines.

Gaming industry consultant Jonathan Galaviz said the escalating battle bodes ill for both Wynn and Okada, who were best friends and partners for 12 years before things went sour.

"With allegations of this magnitude being thrown back and forth, the future business prospects for both companies in Asia will certainly be curtailed."

Wynn, who owned a smaller stake in his eponymous casino company than Okada did, last year stripped Okada of his vice chairman title. The $14 billion casino company said it wants Okada resign as a director of Wynn Resorts, and that it also recommends that he be removed as a director from the board of its Hong Kong subsidiary, Wynn Macau Ltd.

Wynn said on Sunday it had bought back Okada's 24 million shares held by Aruze USA Inc, a unit of Universal, worth $2.7 billion based on Friday's closing price of $112.69, a discount of around 30 percent.

It promised to pay him $1.9 billion in 10 years via a promissory note paying annual interest of 2 percent.

The falling out between the longtime friends surprised many in the industry. Okada had helped pull Wynn back from the brink after he unloaded his Mirage casino to MGM Grand a decade ago.

Their friendship was so close that Wynn had proclaimed in 2008: "I love Kazuo Okada as much as any man that I've ever met in my life. He's my partner and my friend. And there is hardly anything that I won't do for him."

However Wynn, 70, had become increasingly concerned over Okada's plans to open a casino in the Philippines, which would put them in competition with one another.

TIT FOR TAT

Michael Koehler, assistant professor of business law at Butler University, who blogs about the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA), said Wynn's actions may be his way of getting in the good graces of enforcement attorneys but was unlikely to make his own SEC scrutiny go away."

"It could possibly increase the scrutiny. If Wynn had on its corporate board a person like this, who Wynn itself is alleging to have violated FCPA, what else do I need to look at?"

Wynn Resorts said on Sunday its probe stemmed from concerns the Wynn board had about Okada's activities in the Philippines and statements he had allegedly made to Wynn directors that gifts to regulators are permissible in Asia.

The company said the investigation, led by Louis J. Freeh, a former director of the FBI, found numerous violations of the FCPA by Okada. A source familiar with the matter said the report alleged that Filipino regulators had received dinners, Chanel bags and suites at the Wynn Macau, all courtesy of Okada.

The next hearing in the case is scheduled for February 23.

Wynn Resorts also filed a lawsuit against Okada and his company in Nevada District Court, Clark County, for breach of fiduciary duty and related offenses. The company said it also plans to communicate with the appropriate regulatory agencies and government authorities on these matters.

(Editing by Brian Rhoads and Richard Pullin)

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/20/us-wynn-idUSTRE81I0ED20120220

noypiblazer

February 21st, 2012, 12:32 AM

Cash gifts to officials inaccurate—Naguiat :ohno: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Naguiat, however, stressed that other than complimentary accommodations granted, no gifts in cash or in kind were received by PAGCOR officials during his tenure.

anak ng teteng, playing safe si winnie the pooh oh ! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

pau_p1

February 21st, 2012, 02:00 AM

well technically everything about the selection of proponents were all sealed and signed way before Naguiat's term.... though they did make a review during his term..

this dirty battle between Wynn and Okada is turning sour and it seems we might be hit by Wynn's mudslinging... but I'm still positive that Okada will pursue the project regardless of the result of their bout..

reign

February 21st, 2012, 03:40 AM

Nice updates of Solaire. :cheers:

February 19, 2012 Pictures. i have been a lurker here for almost half a year, i would like to contribute some photos :)

SOLAIRE MANILA CONSTRUCTION
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