Remember that majority of the performers in HK Disneyland are Filipinos. That's an added advantage over our SEA neighbors since we have a huge base of talented and skilled english speaking performers in the arts. Of course, at the end of the day, it's still the decision of the Tokyo Operator of Disneyland.

^^ oo nga no... kung dito sa atin yang disneyland di na kailangan mag angkat pa ng performers kasi dami talented performers sa atin.. yung ang advantages natin

i would love to see this in Laguna. :D

Sana naman kung sa Subic gagawin ang Disneyland Philippines. Wala naman sanang kumontra :lol: Kung ako sa Tokyo Operator, magandang location ang Pilipinas!! Why? Dahil Napamahal na sa atin ang Disney at di lang iyon. Malapit sa puso natin ang kultura nang Amerika. :lol:

baka naman makipag joint venture yung japanese operator ng disney with aruze(since they're both japanese.,)., oh diba? hehehe., :)

sana dito na lang disneyland...

disneyland philippines

sarap pakinggan. hehe

indoor amusement park na lang parang circus2 sa las vegas..kasi naman masyadong mainit dito sa pinas.. :lol:

baka naman makipag joint venture yung japanese operator ng disney with aruze(since they're both japanese.,)., oh diba? hehehe., :)

sana nga!!! Genting(Universal Studios Brand) :applause: vs. Aruze (Disneyland Theme Park) ! :lol: in one location

First of all, ang bobo ng media report nayan. The RP government has never been inconsistent on their fight against illigal gambling, because its very clear that they are only after the ILLIGAL gambling. Meanwhile the Jueteng is still in testral before becoming an official gambling game and accepted by PAGCOR.

Pangalawa, ayang mga anti-PAGCOR, specially the church, its simple, if they dont like it then shut their mouth up! And stay away from PAGCOR and DONT go to Bagong Nayong Pilipino once they build it in 15 yrs (wow tagal).

Lastly for the losers, man, gambling is really addictive and there's nothing you can do about it not unless you ask all casinos to ban them by submitting their personal photos. I know a couple of people who did exactly the same thing and it worked.

Anyway, this report what really make me excited from the previous post:
"Leading in the list of foreign investors is Aruze Corp. of Japan, headed by slot machine kingpin Kazuo Okada. Aruze plans to construct an integrated resort featuring 2,000 standard rooms and 300 VIP suites, a major oceanarium targeted to be the world’s largest, theaters, a sports arena and a special museum, and a giant Ferris wheel similar to the London Eye, to be called as the Manila Eye. Okada is also a major owner of Wynn Resorts in Macau.

The second investor to sign up for the integrated project is Genting Berhad of Malaysia, a veritable giant in the world tourism industry. As had been announced in various media throughout the world, Genting is partnering with its subsidiary Star Cruises and Philippine property giant Alliance Global.

The Malaysian group will be building several hotels with a minimum capacity of 2,000 rooms, a world-class theme park carrying the Universal Studios brand, a museum, plus a tower that will be the tallest in the world."

Man what else can we ask for?

Actually i do. Hopefully before they finished all these PAGCOR projects at manila bay, RP should already have all the required and necessary transportation infrastructure fascilities like the development of a modern Macapagal Int'l Airport, adequate HIGHWAYS (NLEX/SLEX) that will connect manla bay to the rest of the city and nationwide as much as possible, and all the mass transits like the regular bus transit, BRT, LRT, etc... Most of all, the PNP should be equipped to the maximum capabilities to secure manila from all types of crimes, and even terrorrist attacks. I think all of these should be done to attract more tourists knowing that our city is one of the best and safest in the world before they gamble and explore it.

^^ Singapore already has Universal Studios so if Disneyland locates there then that would mean competition for Disneyland which it does not need. Although I am biased in favor of my country, I still believe the Philippines will be a better location. I think our main competitor/s will most likely be Thailand and Vietnam since they are in the ASEAN peninsular area.

But if my memory serves me right, SUBIC was one of the frontrunners for Disneyland before but lost out to Hongkong eventually. So we might see SUBIC Disneyland. Once the Northrail gets built to SUBIC and the DMIA becomes the premier airport then that would be very accessible. As it is, the SCTEX makes Subic a lot nearer to Manila.

Actually having major attractions in one area makes a lot of sense it's one reason you have an inordinate number of theme parks in Orlando and in Southern California.

Singapore and BK would have huge natural advantages because of their airhubs. Access is key and so is weather so not having typhoons helps in having less days where the park has to close or lose revenue due to inclement weather.

MAnila would also be at a disadvantage if only because it's less than 90 minutes away by air from another disneyland in hk, and 3 hours away from a potential one in Shanghai. Now as for Subic, they don't really have any place left for something so Massive. Clark would be in a better position and location.

But hey if they want to put it I ain't complaining.:banana:

Going back to Pagcor City (before this thread is officially termed hijacked!) , I think the key infra needed to make this work is T3 and perhaps an extension of line 3 to Bay CIty area with a spur to the airport!

Sana naman kung sa Subic gagawin ang Disneyland Philippines. Wala naman sanang kumontra :lol: Kung ako sa Tokyo Operator, magandang location ang Pilipinas!! Why? Dahil Napamahal na sa atin ang Disney at di lang iyon. Malapit sa puso natin ang kultura nang Amerika. :lol:


This is what i think and the chances where the next disnelyland may possibly be put up, no bias (out of 100%):

Indonesia 50 % = maybe closer to other potential tourist visitors from australia, new zealand, and new guinea. They can possibly offer more places at the southern part of the island of java for disneyland to choose from. Proximity from hong kong are further away. Still, some transportation infrastructures developments are needed.

Malaysia 25 % = have modern infrastructure fascilities inplaced already, plus they have Sabah where they can possibly offer for the next disneyland, and tourism arrival is higher than the philippines. The only concerns are the island of sabah that lacks of new int'l airport and highways, and less population or manpower.

Philippines 14 % = still too close from hong kong, only 25 minutes apart by plane. Also, we are tainted w/ terrorrist attacks in the south, corruptions, some anti-american people, political unrest, unstable government, and security, are the major concerns. But the english-speaking filipinos, manpower & population as our additional potential customers, increase in tourist arrivals are steady, and some nationwide infrastructure developments are basically the only strength we have as of now as our only chances. RP can actually offer the disneyland some areas south of manila in the island of Luzon. Other possible sites are Leyte, Mindoro, and Iloilo, but they need new accessible highways and other transportation infras developments are needed.

Thailand 8% = too close from hong kong, but they can offer its most southern tip part near singapore. Some security concerns too because of the latest muslim terrorrist attacks. Still a strong possible customer.

Singapore 2% = too small, no more possible areas unless if some reclamation project is considered.

Vietnam 1% = new opened market for foreign investment, but it still lack of infrastructure developments aside from its airport.

Laos 0%
Kampuchea 0%
Myanmar 0%

:cheers:

This is what i think and the chances where the next disnelyland may possibly be put up, no bias (out of 100%):

Indonesia 50 % = maybe closer to other potential tourist visitors from australia, new zealand, and new guinea. They can possibly offer more places at the southern part of the island of java for disneyland to choose from. Proximity from hong kong are further away. Still, some transportation infrastructures developments are needed.

Malaysia 25 % = have modern infrastructure fascilities inplaced already, plus they have Sabah where they can possibly offer for the next disneyland, and tourism arrival is higher than the philippines. The only concerns are the island of sabah that lacks of new int'l airport and highways, and less population or manpower.

Philippines 14 % = still too close from hong kong, only 15 minutes apart by plane. Also, we are tainted w/ terrorrist attacks in the south, corruptions, some anti-american people, political unrest, unstable government, and security, are the major concerns. But the english-speaking filipinos, manpower & population as our additional potential customers, increase in tourist arrivals are steady, and some infrastructure developments are basically the only strength we have as of now as our only chances. RP can actually offer the disneyland some areas south of manila in the island of Luzon. Other possible sites are Leyte, Mindoro, and Iloilo, but they need new accessible highways and other transportation infras developments are needed.

Thailand 8% = too close from hong kong, but they can offer its most southern tip part near singapore. Some security concerns too because of the latest muslim terrorrist attacks. Still a possible customer.

Singapore 2% = too small, no more possible areas unless if some reclamation project is considered.

Vietnam 1% = new opened market for foreign investment, but it still lack of infrastructure developments aside from its airport.

Laos 0%
Kampuchea 0%
Myanmar 0%

:cheers:

then Davao City is the best place.. Hong Kong Disneyland is suck big time :lol:

Actually having major attractions in one area makes a lot of sense it's one reason you have an inordinate number of theme parks in Orlando and in Southern California.

Singapore and BK would have huge natural advantages because of their airhubs. Access is key and so is weather so not having typhoons helps in having less days where the park has to close or lose revenue due to inclement weather.

MAnila would also be at a disadvantage if only because it's less than 90 minutes away by air from another disneyland in hk, and 3 hours away from a potential one in Shanghai. Now as for Subic, they don't really have any place left for something so Massive. Clark would be in a better position and location.

But hey if they want to put it I ain't complaining.:banana:

Going back to Pagcor City (before this thread is officially termed hijacked!) , I think the key infra needed to make this work is T3 and perhaps an extension of line 3 to Bay CIty area with a spur to the airport!

I would assume that the next disneyland is targetting the australian continent for possible customers.

That's why i say thailand is already too close from HK, not unless if they can offer their most southern tip, but its infested with muslim rebels. That's why i choose philippines over them although its only about 90 minutes as u said, away from HK by plane, its still a little bit closer to australia, and we have our infrastructure developments around subic/clark, airport (d. macapagal int'l airport) and highways are being updated, despite of the security concerns that are relatively far away from manila (not counting the military distabilization threats). Some visayan islands can actually offer their land areas for disneyland, but they also need to further develop their infras.

But overall, i think indonesia & malaysia are still the main contenders.

I agree w/ u about the PAGCOR's bagong nayong pilipino project.
:cheers:

then Davao City is the best place.. Hong Kong Disneyland is suck big time :lol:

Do they really sucked? Ive never been there yet. Anyway and hopefully, they would consider Davao, but they really need to develop it throughly w/ all necessary infras. Security is also a concern though... :)

This is what i think and the chances where the next disnelyland may possibly be put up, no bias (out of 100%):

Indonesia 50 % = maybe closer to other potential tourist visitors from australia, new zealand, and new guinea. They can possibly offer more places at the southern part of the island of java for disneyland to choose from. Proximity from hong kong are further away. Still, some transportation infrastructures developments are needed.

Malaysia 25 % = have modern infrastructure fascilities inplaced already, plus they have Sabah where they can possibly offer for the next disneyland, and tourism arrival is higher than the philippines. The only concerns are the island of sabah that lacks of new int'l airport and highways, and less population or manpower.

Philippines 14 % = still too close from hong kong, only 15 minutes apart by plane. Also, we are tainted w/ terrorrist attacks in the south, corruptions, some anti-american people, political unrest, unstable government, and security, are the major concerns. But the english-speaking filipinos, manpower & population as our additional potential customers, increase in tourist arrivals are steady, and some infrastructure developments are basically the only strength we have as of now as our only chances. RP can actually offer the disneyland some areas south of manila in the island of Luzon. Other possible sites are Leyte, Mindoro, and Iloilo, but they need new accessible highways and other transportation infras developments are needed.

:cheers:

wasn't bali, indonesia bombed twice?
with that put into consideration, the ratings should read:

Indonesia = 32%
Philippines = 32%

consider that returning/vacationing/retiring Pinoy OFWs are instant customers to Disneyland in the Philippines and they number by the hundreds of thousands, along with their families and friends. :cheers:

wasn't bali, indonesia bombed twice?
with that put into consideration, the ratings should read:

Indonesia = 32%
Philippines = 32%

consider that returning/vacationing/retiring Pinoy OFWs are instant customers to Disneyland in the Philippines and they number by the hundreds of thousands, along with their families and friends. :cheers:

haha.. true!!!! Sa Pinoy pa lang. Yayaman na ang Disneyland Philippines :lol: Kahit gaano pa yan kamahal ay susugurin yan nang Pinoy :cheers:

it would be nice to have the disneyland here in the philippines., but my bet, based on the posts here., goes to indonesia or malaysia. but most probably, malaysia.

although., disneyland clark would be great!! (and posible) :)

btw., we are so OT., :)

wasn't bali, indonesia bombed twice?
with that put into consideration, the ratings should read:

Indonesia = 32%
Philippines = 32%

consider that returning/vacationing/retiring Pinoy OFWs are instant customers to Disneyland in the Philippines and they number by the hundreds of thousands, along with their families and friends. :cheers:

yeah they were only bombed twice, compared to us w/ all those security mess...

even if disneyland is trying to target both the australian continent and the north, west part of asia, then jakarta is still the most centralized and logical next site, basically the same percentage as of what i posted earlier.

but i agree as what i said earlier from my post, part of our strength is our population & manpower para lusubin yang disneyland, kahit magkano pa hehehe.... we are so OT na nga... :cheers:

^^ the way kids worship the Jollibee mascot, wait til they see Mickey and the gang 'in person'. (yep we're so OT, sorry...) :D

Wow, I really do hope fervently with all my heart that divine intervention will wash that Disney theme park onto our shores! Oh please! Yeah, the most potential areas in our country are too close to Hong Kong. But hey, they could totally set up a new market here. You know, HK Disneyland is not really that popular among the Chinese. And if you're a foreigner, the bad english they have around there isn't really much of a help. For Singapore, you guys are right about it being small. Come on, they wouldn't want to occupy the remaining soil they have there. And if they reclaim, that'll destroy more of the marine habitat around that area. Haha, palusot eh. Thailand is not so wholesome is it? Let's leave it as that. Indonesia? Naah. Vietnam? Yeah, but it's not to much of a liberalized capital economy as of now. I mean compared to us, we're more democratic.

I agree...the positive outlook for the country from investors and Filipino's high proficiency in the english language I think the Philippines has a good chance of getting this park.

i read some old articles., meron na palang chismis way back 2006 about disneyworld malaysia., to be located sana in johor.

and biggest na hindrance daw sa disneyworld malaysia is the fact that they're mulsim daw., pag nanalo daw kasi yung mga hardlined na islamist sa national elections, lagot-lagot ang disney.. and disney wouldn't want to take that very big risk. well, nabasa ko lang yun. (although, chismis lang naman pala yun.) :)

i feel na maganda ang chances natin for disneyland. :) our biggest competitor would be singapore or thailand.

i think disney could build a disney resort somewhere in the visayas or palawan., ganda nun., sa Cebu siguro., :) disneyland+beach=heaven. (although, if that's the forumula, our competition would be vietnam and thailand) :) i hope the japanese operators would consider the philippines. :)

This is what i think and the chances where the next disnelyland may possibly be put up, no bias (out of 100%):

Indonesia 50 % = maybe closer to other potential tourist visitors from australia, new zealand, and new guinea. They can possibly offer more places at the southern part of the island of java for disneyland to choose from. Proximity from hong kong are further away. Still, some transportation infrastructures developments are needed.

Malaysia 25 % = have modern infrastructure fascilities inplaced already, plus they have Sabah where they can possibly offer for the next disneyland, and tourism arrival is higher than the philippines. The only concerns are the island of sabah that lacks of new int'l airport and highways, and less population or manpower.

:cheers:

^^ Personally, I won't put Indonesia and Malaysia up high in the rankings. In fact, they might not be in the running at all. I suppose there might be a problem with the numerous restrictions in the practice of their Muslim beliefs. Indonesia is more strict though than Malaysia. When I went to Disneyland in the US and even in HongKong, one of the main attractions of the park are their indoor shows. In Hong Kong, one of the more popular ones was the Lion King show where some female performers are in scant wardrobes because of the roles they portray. That may be a big no-no if Disneyland is to locate in a predominantly Muslim country. Also, there would be the issue on the food to be served as well as the observance of the Ramadan. Disneyland is a Western idea and most likely will locate in a more open society.

^^ Personally, I won't put Indonesia and Malaysia up high in the rankings. In fact, they might not be in the running at all. I suppose there might be a problem with the numerous restrictions in the practice of their Muslim beliefs. Indonesia is more strict though than Malaysia. .

I don't believe that Indonesia is more strict compared to Malaysia.....In Jakarta alone, several dance clubs (bigger than Embassy and Alchemy) are sprouting and some are open 24 hours! In KL, the bars and clubs close at 1 AM.

In Jakarta dance clubs, what happen inside is for you to experience, how they behave, and party like owl....Few women wear veil in Jakarta compared to KL, you'll see men and women in pools, beaches with their swimming attire....

^^ I agree. Indonesia is not strict or conservative at all. It may be more liberal than Malaysia, in fact.

what about Thailand as a site? its also close to South Asia and it is strategically located near indochina and is in the main asian continent.

I don't believe that Indonesia is more strict compared to Malaysia.....In Jakarta alone, several dance clubs (bigger than Embassy and Alchemy) are sprouting and some are open 24 hours! In KL, the bars and clubs close at 1 AM.

In Jakarta dance clubs, what happen inside is for you to experience, how they behave, and party like owl....Few women wear veil in Jakarta compared to KL, you'll see men and women in pools, beaches with their swimming attire....

^^ That's the weird thing with Indonesia. Although they may seem to be more liberal in terms of actual practice, their religious leaders are more vocal in terms of strict adherence to the Muslim faith especially when global attention is focused on them. In a Miss USA pageant in the nineties, there was a contestant of Indonesian descent and there was an uproar when she wore a swimsuit. On a more recent note, their religious leaders even lambasted foreign tourists for their 'western' ways. Malaysia, on the other hand, would want to depict a more cosmopolitan lifetstyle and yet they seem to be very strict in actual practice.

^^ That's the weird thing with Indonesia. Although they may seem to be more liberal in terms of actual practice, their religious leaders are more vocal in terms of strict adherence to the Muslim faith especially when global attention is focused on them. In a Miss USA pageant in the nineties, there was a contestant of Indonesian descent and there was an uproar when she wore a swimsuit. On a more recent note, their religious leaders even lambasted foreign tourists for their 'western' ways. Malaysia, on the other hand, would want to depict a more cosmopolitan lifetstyle and yet they seem to be very strict in actual practice.

You're talking of 90's scene in Indonesia. I asked my friend on beauty contest, Indonesia has been sending representative since 2000 and is wearing the swimsuit :). I visited Indonesia during Ramadhan, malls and restaurants are open and even bars. The country is a secular state that recognizes 5 religions including Christianity. They have great malls, infrastructures are developed, etc. In the end, I still want the disneyland to be built in the Phils. :lol: They published the first Southeast Asian edition of Playboy, ahead than the Philippines, although it created an uproar. The publication is done in Bali.

^^ That's the weird thing with Indonesia. Although they may seem to be more liberal in terms of actual practice, their religious leaders are more vocal in terms of strict adherence to the Muslim faith especially when global attention is focused on them. In a Miss USA pageant in the nineties, there was a contestant of Indonesian descent and there was an uproar when she wore a swimsuit. On a more recent note, their religious leaders even lambasted foreign tourists for their 'western' ways. Malaysia, on the other hand, would want to depict a more cosmopolitan lifetstyle and yet they seem to be very strict in actual practice.

A lot has changed in Indonesia since the 90s.;)

Yes, there are still some Muslim-conservative parties in Indonesia, but the majority of Indonesians are liberal. Most protests by conservative leaders often dry out because they dont get much support from the people.

You're talking of 90's scene in Indonesia. I asked my friend on beauty contest, Indonesia has been sending representative since 2000 and is wearing the swimsuit :). I visited Indonesia during Ramadhan, malls and restaurants are open and even bars. The country is a secular state that recognizes 5 religions including Christianity. They have great malls, infrastructures are developed, etc. In the end, I still want the disneyland to be built in the Phils. :lol: They published the first Southeast Asian edition of Playboy, ahead than the Philippines, although it created an uproar. The publication is done in Bali.

^^ Kindly re-read my post since I never mentioned that Indonesia did not send representatives in beauty contests. They actually have been sending representatives. It is just the reaction of the ultra conservative muslim clerics. In fact, in 2006, they even declared "jihad" against their then representative Nadine Chandrawinata because of her wearing a swimsuit. If Disneyland were to locate there, most likely there will be some sort of opposition from the ultra conservatives. It may die down like what ryanr says but the mere presence of such opposition may deter the Tokyo Operator from ranking Indonesia high up in the list of possible location.

guys.. this thread is about PAGCOR's Tourism City and not about beauty contests.. please go back on topic... and please don't focus much on Disneyland as it is not a confirmed part of this project... thanks...

^^ Kindly re-read my post since I never mentioned that Indonesia did not send representatives in beauty contests. They actually have been sending representatives. It is just the reaction of the ultra conservative muslim clerics. In fact, in 2006, they even declared "jihad" against their then representative Nadine Chandrawinata because of her wearing a swimsuit. If Disneyland were to locate there, most likely there will be some sort of opposition from the ultra conservatives. It may die down like what ryanr says but the mere presence of such opposition may deter the Tokyo Operator from ranking Indonesia high up in the list of possible location.

The beauty contest in Indonesia does not even have an impact because they are not fanatics to it. Let's go back to the main issue here....Bagong nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City :lol: Ryanr is correct, I guess he has been to that country....it is very liberal, you would feel you are in Metro Manila, with the presence of malls, entertainment, relax attitude of people, nobody discusses about religion, in the streets - few women are wearing veil, cigarettes, beers and liquors are sold openly even in the sidewalk stores, yun nga lang, you would hear the calls for prayers from the mosques...

The beauty contest in Indonesia does not even have an impact because they are not fanatics to it. Let's go back to the main issue here....Bagong nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City :lol: Ryanr is correct, I guess he has been to that country....it is very liberal, you would feel you are in Metro Manila, with the presence of malls, entertainment, relax attitude of people, nobody discusses about religion, in the streets - few women are wearing veil, cigarettes, beers and liquors are sold openly even in the sidewalk stores, yun nga lang, you would hear the calls for prayers from the mosques...

I lived there for 11 years;) Exactly, despite our differences in religion, the Philippines and Indonesia are quite similar.

But anyways, we are way off topic. Sorry mods. I actually question Disney on their proposal to expand to SEA. Part of the "magical" experience of going to Disneyland, based on my childhood memories was to travel to another country to experience it. Not only was I excited to go to disney world when i was 9 years old, i was looking forward to the fact that in order to go to Disney, you have to travel far and endure an aggravating 15 hour flight (for a 9 year old) and see the United States (or Japan/France, which ever Disneyland) too.

Not that I don't want them to expand to SEA, but from Disney's business perspective, it kinda takes away the magic of the experience. It makes the park less special. Its like comparing a 9 year old that lives in Orlando to a 9 year old that lives in Wisconsin. Who is more excited? Oh well, im not a Disney executive. I would much rather have a well planned and implemented Bayong Nayong Filipino than a foreign theme park - Disney or Universal that does nothing to represent the Filipino people.

So this is where Pagcor's Nayong Pilipino Tourism City will rise... :banana: :banana:

soon we'll see PagCor's Tourism City rising here soon...
as usual not sure where to post Metro Manila photos, so i'll just put it in here

taken by Daniel Y. Go (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/danielygometromanila.jpg

FYI: Long before HK Disneyland, there have been talks of a Disneyland to be established in Baguio.

I lived there for 11 years;) Exactly, despite our differences in religion, the Philippines and Indonesia are quite similar.

But anyways, we are way off topic. Sorry mods. I actually question Disney on their proposal to expand to SEA. Part of the "magical" experience of going to Disneyland, based on my childhood memories was to travel to another country to experience it. Not only was I excited to go to disney world when i was 9 years old, i was looking forward to the fact that in order to go to Disney, you have to travel far and endure an aggravating 15 hour flight (for a 9 year old) and see the United States (or Japan/France, which ever Disneyland) too.

Not that I don't want them to expand to SEA, but from Disney's business perspective, it kinda takes away the magic of the experience. It makes the park less special. Its like comparing a 9 year old that lives in Orlando to a 9 year old that lives in Wisconsin. Who is more excited? Oh well, im not a Disney executive. I would much rather have a well planned and implemented Bayong Nayong Filipino than a foreign theme park - Disney or Universal that does nothing to represent the Filipino people.

^^ Again, off-topic. We can speculate for the longest time and perhaps the planned expansion to SEA may not even push through. Much ado about nothing. Or we might be surprised to hear it will be located in Laos/Cambodia. At least we just need to be glad that this Bagong Nayon Pilipino Tourism City is moving already. I can already see Manila's future tourist brochures with PAGCOR Tower, Manila Eye and the largest Oceanarium hugging the limelight along with the ever present Rizal park and Intramuros.

I just have a gut feel that maybe the next Disneyland just might be in Clark. What's going for it is the superior infrastructure of Clark. Oh well. Another speculator.

onga noh?

ung bagong express way, malay natin, sana. :D

ang kulet sinabi ng enough of those disneyland na eh. :lol:

It would be best for Disneyland to pick a location that is not frequented by rain. An almost all year round sunny. So that the theme park can be opened throughtout the year. Is that an advantage that Singapore has over Philippines?

The idea of Disney or another amusement park type development like Universal Studios, Great America, and even Marine World sounds quite exciting though I don't know how practical/feasible it will be because of weather. What I'm not too excited about is the proposal of another Oceanarium which is a duplication of a newly opened oceanarium (nearby) anyway, only bigger. Why? Too much of the same thing will only dilute it instead of enhancing this highprofile project imo. Let's keep our fingers crossed they come up with some better option!

The idea of Disney or another amusement park type development like Universal Studios, Great America, and even Marine World sounds quite exciting though I don't know how practical/feasible it will be because of weather. What I'm not too excited about is the proposal of another Oceanarium which is a duplication of a newly opened oceanarium (nearby) anyway, only bigger. Why? Too much of the same thing will only dilute it instead of enhancing this highprofile project imo. Let's keep our fingers crossed they come up with some better option!

I agree with bro.... that is a common problem in the Phil... look at all those malls... They are all selling the same thing. Its a common practice in the Philippines to kill someone elses business by copying each other. We should learn to put up something unique and innovative that we could proudly say our own.

I agree...

Manila Ocean Park is not even 2 months opened.
Plus, The proximity of the proposed new ocean park and Manila Ocean Park is very close.
Mabuti sana if the proposed new Ocean Park was in Pampanga or Laguna...

Talk about barbecue mentality.

does anybody here knows if they will replicate the old Nayong Pilipino?

if they want to build another oceanarium, build it in Cebu!

or in laguna de bay... and have a fresh water oceanarium...

uhh.. oceanarium po.. coming from the word ocean.. meaning salt water po... hehehe ;) peace!

uhh.. oceanarium po.. coming from the word ocean.. meaning salt water po... hehehe ;) peace!

:lol: :lol:

in my opinion it is OK for them to build an Oceanarium in Bagong Nayong Pilipino. I'm thinking kasi na ung Oceanarium na yun eh magpapaganda lang sa Hotel or Casino nung nvestor. Maybe they are planning to place their grand ballroom sa tabi ng napakalaking Aquarium with Butanding... Just my opinion...

So this is where Pagcor's Nayong Pilipino Tourism City will rise... :banana: :banana:

ok pala to kung venetian ang magtatayo ready na iyung lagoon nila

mas bagay sa palagay ko ang oceanarium kasi puede silang magpagawa ng world's largest acquarium doon , iyun lang nga di isda ang nasa loob, pero perfectly compliments a casino parang macau

so mga naghahanap ang nayong pilipino ay ngayong nagooperate sa Clark Expo, not the full thing pero nandoon iyung mga sumasayaw na igorot etc ngayon

^^ Mmm... mga dyesebel ba ka mo imbis isda? Aba mukhang payag na rin ako sa oceanarium na yan!
Hehehe... :lol: :lol: :lol:

I guess if they will do something like the Atlantis Hotel where the oceanarium is part of the hotel concept then it won't be a blatant duplication and simple redundancy of the oceanarium that just opened.

Maganda yung dalawang Oceanarium para pagandahan sila. Panget kung walang Competition. :cheers:

uhh.. oceanarium po.. coming from the word ocean.. meaning salt water po... hehehe ;) peace!

So call the one in E City "Aquarium" so Manila will have one Aquarium and one Oceanarium :okay:

they should pursue this kind of projects because this will not just also help the country but also promote our cuntry! sosyal apg nangyari yun! di mo na kailangang lumipad apauntang hong kong, kasi may Manila Disneyland or Clark Disneyland? alin dun gusto niyo? o The tallest tower to surpass the burj dubai? sosyal!

feeling ko kikita pa rin yung parehong oceanarium. :)

Vice mayors support 'Pagcor City' in newspaper ad
04/17/2008
GMA News
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/89867/Vice-mayors-support-Pagcor-City-in-newspaper-ad

MANILA, Philippines - A day after an anti-gambling Catholic bishop lamented getting "unfair" treatment in media, the Vice Mayors League of the Philippines in another ad hailed the $15-billion "gambling city" of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) as a "beacon of hope."

"The Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City might seem like an unconventional solution but it has the potential to be the economic miracle that our people have been waiting for," it said.

"Let us open our minds and work together for the realization of this project. May we strive hard to make this nation a better place for future generations and may we continue to shine at our brightest as one people," the group added.

Signing the manifesto of support were Vice Mayors Eduardo Datu of Bacolor, Pampanga (treasurer); Allan Lopez Rellon of Tagum City, Davao del Norte (secretary general); Joseph Penas of Digos City in Davao del Sur (executive vice president); and Henry Co Dy of Iligan City, Lanao del Norte (national president).

Only last Wednesday, Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz questioned the unfair treatment anti-gambling groups like his Kilusang Bayan Laban sa Sugal are getting in media.

Cruz, a vocal critic of gambling, said anti-gambling stories are muzzled in the media, while pro-gambling stories and ads are liberally played up.

He had also scored Pagcor for promoting gambling with its new Pagcor City, as well as "misleading" three retired bishops into attending its groundbreaking ceremonies.

But the vice mayors, in their ad, claimed the Pagcor City is a boost for tourism, which they claimed is "one sure way for our country to recover and progress economically."

They also saluted Pagcor chairman Ephraim Genuino for "envisioning a project that aims to make the Philippines the foremost entertainment and tourism gateway in Asia."

"In the midst of recessions and economic crises we see this project as a beacon of hope that will lead us through the uncertainty of our times," they said.

"As stalwart promoters of national development, we believe that progress begins with a change in mindset. We therefore urge our colleagues and fellow local government officials leaders and constituents to start thinking 'outside the box' in looking for answers to our country's most pressing problems," they added.

To Stanleymalls: The Pentominum : South East Asia's FIRST 7-Star Hotel

Question: Where is this Pentominum hotel?

^ It's in BGC. :)

^ It's in BGC. :)

Thanks!

they haven't decided yet right? it's either BGC or along Roxas Blvd. anyway i dont think this Pentominium project is going to push thru. According to previous threads it should have strated Q1 of 2008.....where is it? another myth in the making.

^yes baka sa Bay City. OA naman nung BGC. :)

Sa bay City na - Shang and the other High High end hotels are already in BGC... pwede ng bigay ito sa Bay City para may balance... :lol:

Otherwise baka mag cut throat competition sa BGC area malugi or may mag flod na high class hotel in BGC when the economy goes into down turn...

^^ O sige na nga i-ambag na lang ng BGC ang Pentominum at Hooters sa Bay City! Hehehe... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lahat nang magaganda, Innovative at World Class na Projects ay itatayo na sa Bay City. :banana:

^^ It certainly deserves the best! :banana:

So is the whole reclamation area 800 hectares? I remember the first news about Pagcor City saying it would have a total of 800 hectares, but recent articles say it's ony 90 hectares. Does the 800 hectares include Bay City and SM's MOA area?

^ Phase 1 of Pagcor Manila Bay Tourism City is 90 Hectares. :)

^^ After the phase 1's completion, we can immediately see how it will beautifully transform the Bay area landscape (or shall I say sea/bay scape). The whole 800 hectares should look grand. :)

I highly doubt if they are going to expand to 800 hectares by manila bay. First, there is no more reclaimed land available. Second, it will be too costly for them to reclaim more land and not enough time to do it. I think when they expand they should find another location that is comparable to the ambiance and amenities of Manila Bay. Perhaps, Cebu or Davao will be good alternative sites.

I highly doubt if they are going to expand to 800 hectares by manila bay. First, there is no more reclaimed land available. Second, it will be too costly for them to reclaim more land and not enough time to do it. I think when they expand they should find another location that is comparable to the ambiance and amenities of Manila Bay. Perhaps, Cebu or Davao will be good alternative sites.

They don't need to find more reclamation land because it' already there. :lol:

:okay: Tokyo Stock Exchange disclosure:

Aruze to spend Y250B on casino in RP
Bloomberg
April 28, 2008

Tokyo - Aruze Corp., a Japanese maker of arcade machines, plans to spend about Y250 billion (US$2.4 billion) to build and operate a casino in Manila, Philippines.

Aruze, the largest shareholder of Las Vegas-based Wynn Resorts, Ltd., expects as early as next month to get government approval for the project, which includes a hotel, amusement facilities and a commercial complex.

Operations are expected to start around April 2010, Aruze said in a statement distributed Friday at the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

Tokyo-based Aruze said it would seek expertise to run the facility from Stephen Wynn, chief executive officer of Wynn Resorts.

:okay: Tokyo Stock Exchange disclosure:

Aruze to spend Y250B on casino in RP
Bloomberg
April 28, 2008

Tokyo - Aruze Corp., a Japanese maker of arcade machines, plans to spend about Y250 billion (US$2.4 billion) to build and operate a casino in Manila, Philippines.

Aruze, the largest shareholder of Las Vegas-based Wynn Resorts, Ltd., expects as early as next month to get government approval for the project, which includes a hotel, amusement facilities and a commercial complex.

Operations are expected to start around April 2010, Aruze said in a statement distributed Friday at the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

Tokyo-based Aruze said it would seek expertise to run the facility from Stephen Wynn, chief executive officer of Wynn Resorts.

good news indeed...:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

OMG...sana Wynn yung resort!!!

:okay: Tokyo Stock Exchange disclosure:

Aruze to spend Y250B on casino in RP
Bloomberg
April 28, 2008

Tokyo - Aruze Corp., a Japanese maker of arcade machines, plans to spend about Y250 billion (US$2.4 billion) to build and operate a casino in Manila, Philippines.

Aruze, the largest shareholder of Las Vegas-based Wynn Resorts, Ltd., expects as early as next month to get government approval for the project, which includes a hotel, amusement facilities and a commercial complex.

Operations are expected to start around April 2010, Aruze said in a statement distributed Friday at the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

Tokyo-based Aruze said it would seek expertise to run the facility from Stephen Wynn, chief executive officer of Wynn Resorts.

Meron ba sa BGC niyan? :banana:

^ :lol:

BGC na naman nakita mo.

Meron ba sa BGC niyan? :banana:

^^ Sir, halata yatang masigasig na fan ka ng BGC. :lol: :lol:

^^ OO nga hinay-hinay sa pamimintas ng ibang CBD's baka maudlot pa yan gaya ng Pantemonium. Buti nga ang BGC may nakatayo na eh dito nga ni isa wala pa. Even a final master plan nga wala pa rin so panay concept pa lang talaga ito. It takes time to convert these ideas into reality and many things can happen during this time. As they say don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch and let's better hope for the best that the high expectations for this big dream development comes to fruition and doesn't end up as being all hype or delayed indefinitely if the economy turns for the worse. But of course we all want this development to push through and come out drop-dead beautiful!

walastik 42 pages 825 posts and no no real concrete project yet, record yata to sa atin

sana magpalabas na sila ng final render or design or what not not

^^ I'm sure by the end of the year we will hear more details and hopefully actual renders of the four main projects. I'm excited for the Okada Manila Bay Resort and the Bagong Nayon Pilipino Resort. The renders for the Marina Bay Sands were released a year before construction began, so we should see renders soon.

http://www.aruze.com/en/ir/releases/2008/20080425_e_pr2.pdf

Casino Project in the Philippines

As announced in its “Business Realignment and Future Business Development” press release issued December 20, 2007, ARUZE GROUP seeks to commence the operation of a casino resort in the Asian region, which shall be conducted independently by ARUZE CORP. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”).

The successful operation of a casino resort necessitates rich knowledge and experience regarding hotel construction and operation, know-how concerning the creation of attractive facilities and superior personnel fully acquainted with casino resort operation. A project team has been established by the Company for the purpose of securing the above. Out of the abovementioned elements, where essential management-based know-how is concerned, the Company intends to proceed with the project under the full guidance of Wynn Resorts, Limited’s Steve Wynn.

The concept proposed by the Company for the “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City” project, which is currently being planned for the area of reclaimed land in the Philippine capital of Manila, has been highly received by the Philippine government. Based on this positive reception, the Company has initiated preparations towards materializing this business in the below manner, and has commenced arrangements for the site to be used.

Outline of Casino Project

(1) Site to Be Acquired - Plot of land adjacent to “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City”

(2) Planned Area - 40 hectares (400,000 square meters)

(3) Primary Facilities - Casino hotel, aquarium, art museum, sports facilities, Ferris wheel, commercial facilities, etc.

(4) Business Scale - Estimated total of approx. 250 billion JPY

(5) Future Timetable*
Site and provisional license acquisition: Between end of May 2008 and end of July 2008
Commencement of construction: Around Jan. 2009
Opening of casino and other facilities: Around Apr. 2010

*The acquisition of a provisional license is currently in the stages of deliberation. The above timetable is that foreseen by the Company at the current stage, and is subject to change in the future.

Further details will be provided in full once the site has been secured and acquisition of the license has been confirmed.

^^ OO nga hinay-hinay sa pamimintas ng ibang CBD's baka maudlot pa yan gaya ng Pantemonium. Buti nga ang BGC may nakatayo na eh dito nga ni isa wala pa. Even a final master plan nga wala pa rin so panay concept pa lang talaga ito. It takes time to convert these ideas into reality and many things can happen during this time. As they say don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch and let's better hope for the best that the high expectations for this big dream development comes to fruition and doesn't end up as being all hype or delayed indefinitely if the economy turns for the worse. But of course we all want this development to push through and come out drop-dead beautiful!

Asa ka naman po Mr. BGC :nuts: Hindi na yan mauudlot :lol: Hindi lang naman low class Shang ang itatayo dito eh! Kung Hindi World Class :banana: Mabuhay ka na lang sa kasabihan. Tamo itong BGC inabot nang forever bago magboom. Nagboom nga ba? hahaha :cheers:

http://www.aruze.com/en/ir/releases/2008/20080425_e_pr2.pdf

Casino Project in the Philippines

As announced in its “Business Realignment and Future Business Development” press release issued December 20, 2007, ARUZE GROUP seeks to commence the operation of a casino resort in the Asian region, which shall be conducted independently by ARUZE CORP. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”).

The successful operation of a casino resort necessitates rich knowledge and experience regarding hotel construction and operation, know-how concerning the creation of attractive facilities and superior personnel fully acquainted with casino resort operation. A project team has been established by the Company for the purpose of securing the above. Out of the abovementioned elements, where essential management-based know-how is concerned, the Company intends to proceed with the project under the full guidance of Wynn Resorts, Limited’s Steve Wynn.

The concept proposed by the Company for the “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City” project, which is currently being planned for the area of reclaimed land in the Philippine capital of Manila, has been highly received by the Philippine government. Based on this positive reception, the Company has initiated preparations towards materializing this business in the below manner, and has commenced arrangements for the site to be used.

Outline of Casino Project

(1) Site to Be Acquired - Plot of land adjacent to “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City”

(2) Planned Area - 40 hectares (400,000 square meters)

(3) Primary Facilities - Casino hotel, aquarium, art museum, sports facilities, Ferris wheel, commercial facilities, etc.

(4) Business Scale - Estimated total of approx. 250 billion JPY

(5) Future Timetable*
Site and provisional license acquisition: Between end of May 2008 and end of July 2008
Commencement of construction: Around Jan. 2009
Opening of casino and other facilities: Around Apr. 2010

*The acquisition of a provisional license is currently in the stages of deliberation. The above timetable is that foreseen by the Company at the current stage, and is subject to change in the future.

Further details will be provided in full once the site has been secured and acquisition of the license has been confirmed.

Thank you very much for posting this one.

2010 na pala ang start :cheers: at next year na ang start nang construction. yay!

^^ ambilis! sana nga mabilis matapos.

Asa ka naman po Mr. BGC :nuts: Hindi na yan mauudlot :lol: Hindi lang naman low class Shang ang itatayo dito eh! Kung Hindi World Class :banana: Mabuhay ka na lang sa kasabihan. Tamo itong BGC inabot nang forever bago magboom. Nagboom nga ba? hahaha :cheers:

^ Hey, if you have a problem with BGC (for whatever reasons you have), then that is your problem, don't make it ours too. Anyone in this forum who does not want development, no matter where in the Philippines it is should leave.

Let this post serve as a warning.

2. Expression of hate. We do not tolerate hateful messages. This includes things such as racism, sexism, xenophobia, religious bashing, open support of terrorism, homophobia, ultra nationalism or provincialism. If you generally have a problem with an entire group of people because of their nationality, religion, race or sexuality, that is your problem. Don't make it ours too. This rule is especially applicable to forumers who hijack or troll a thread/local forum, basically just to bash the topic or participants of the thread/local forum. This also applies to forumers who persistently engage in posting news articles with an agenda as identified by the SSC staff.

^ Hey, if you have a problem with BGC (for whatever reasons you have), then that is your problem, don't make it ours too. Anyone in this forum who does not want development, no matter where in the Philippines it is should leave.

Let this post serve as a warning.

okey dokey! Noted!!! Atleast di naman ako nagbibigay kumento sa forum nang Taguig. :cheers: at Opinyon ko yun gaya nang Opinyon nang mga BGC peeps sa ibang CBD> :lol:

agree, i don't see the point of CBD vs CBD discussions. who's better, who's not? parehong nasa PILIPINAS yan! as i always say, let there be peace on earth!!! haha! moving on to better things to discuss...

^^ all i can see is newport city buyers are lucky... i recommend those who can to grab all foreclosed properties near this area... buy! buy! buy!

^ Hey, if you have a problem with BGC (for whatever reasons you have), then that is your problem, don't make it ours too. Anyone in this forum who does not want development, no matter where in the Philippines it is should leave.

Let this post serve as a warning.

^^ Thanks Sinjin for putting an early stop to this childish nonesense! I don't know what his problem is but you are absolutely right we don't need no CBD hater in SSCF! After all we all want a better Philippines! :okay: :okay:

^^ all i can see is newport city buyers are lucky... i recommend those who can to grab all foreclosed properties near this area... buy! buy! buy!

agree with that. buy buy buy :cheers:

i also agree na hindi dapat nag-tatalo tayo kung sino ang maganda o advantage dahil lahat ng CBD sa Manila Compliment to each other and utilise each to attract more investor to puor in each CBD.

http://www.aruze.com/en/ir/releases/2008/20080425_e_pr2.pdf

Casino Project in the Philippines

As announced in its “Business Realignment and Future Business Development” press release issued December 20, 2007, ARUZE GROUP seeks to commence the operation of a casino resort in the Asian region, which shall be conducted independently by ARUZE CORP. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”).

The successful operation of a casino resort necessitates rich knowledge and experience regarding hotel construction and operation, know-how concerning the creation of attractive facilities and superior personnel fully acquainted with casino resort operation. A project team has been established by the Company for the purpose of securing the above. Out of the abovementioned elements, where essential management-based know-how is concerned, the Company intends to proceed with the project under the full guidance of Wynn Resorts, Limited’s Steve Wynn.

The concept proposed by the Company for the “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City” project, which is currently being planned for the area of reclaimed land in the Philippine capital of Manila, has been highly received by the Philippine government. Based on this positive reception, the Company has initiated preparations towards materializing this business in the below manner, and has commenced arrangements for the site to be used.

Outline of Casino Project

(1) Site to Be Acquired - Plot of land adjacent to “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City”

(2) Planned Area - 40 hectares (400,000 square meters)

(3) Primary Facilities - Casino hotel, aquarium, art museum, sports facilities, Ferris wheel, commercial facilities, etc.

(4) Business Scale - Estimated total of approx. 250 billion JPY

(5) Future Timetable*
Site and provisional license acquisition: Between end of May 2008 and end of July 2008
Commencement of construction: Around Jan. 2009
Opening of casino and other facilities: Around Apr. 2010

*The acquisition of a provisional license is currently in the stages of deliberation. The above timetable is that foreseen by the Company at the current stage, and is subject to change in the future.

Further details will be provided in full once the site has been secured and acquisition of the license has been confirmed.

hay.... sana naman ay matuloy na itong mga projects na ito para naman makahabol tayo sa trend sa SEA. nahuhuli tayo dahil pinapahuli tayo ng mga makalumang pag-iisip ng ibang pilipino. let's grow! move on! and see a better ay hindi, the best Philippines in the coming years! dapat nga tayo ang paradigm ng SEA in overall terms. Singapore is rubbish before. Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia also. so dapat di tayo nagpapahuli sa lahat ng latest at best. these projects are a boost sa ating economy at malay niyo, makita niyo na lang ang pilipinas na wala nagn kurakot! yehey! kung may kakayahan lang akong tumanda pa para maging presidente, go! i'll approve those projects which will benefit the people and my country itself. i thank you! hehehehehehehe..........

okey dokey! Noted!!! Atleast di naman ako nagbibigay kumento sa forum nang Taguig. :cheers: at Opinyon ko yun gaya nang Opinyon nang mga BGC peeps sa ibang CBD> :lol:

Good...stop this childish act.

Good...stop this childish act.

i stop bashing BGC hours ago then stop replying. DUH

any updates? tnx!

Asa ka naman po Mr. BGC :nuts: Hindi na yan mauudlot :lol: Hindi lang naman low class Shang ang itatayo dito eh! Kung Hindi World Class :banana: Mabuhay ka na lang sa kasabihan. Tamo itong BGC inabot nang forever bago magboom. Nagboom nga ba? hahaha :cheers:

tsupi

Updates! Updates! Updates! :lol:

have they got a name for the Manila 'Eye' already?

i've got a proposal, what about The Horizon di ba, it was supposed be a view wheel that dips into the sea? IMO, it would be perfect, since the horizon is where the sea and sky meet

^^ good name.. i must agree..

the event horizon.. haha.. sa blackhole na yun.. mali...

CEO Aims to Finish Casino Resort by 2010 (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120994058486065937.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)
By CHING-LI TOR
May 5, 2008; Page B6

Taking note of the lucrative regulated gambling market in the Asian-Pacific region, which is forecast to grow 16% a year to US$30 billion by 2011, the Singapore government rescinded its 40-year-old ban on casinos and in 2005 kicked off a grueling and intensely scrutinized bidding process to choose two casino operators.

After losing an attempt to snare the first license, won by the Las Vegas Sands Corp. of the U.S. for a casino at Marina Bay, Tan Hee Teck and a core team of 10 in late 2006 clinched the competitive bidding for the second integrated resort/casino license for his company, Malaysia's Genting Bhd. and its 50.4%-owned Genting International PLC subsidiary.

Today, Mr. Tan, 52 years old, is using his two decades of gaming-industry experience to lead a staff of more than 170 in a race to bring to fruition by early 2010 their concept for Resorts World at Singapore's Sentosa Island. The ambitious S$6 billion (US$4.4 billion) project will sprawl across 49 hectares, and include attractions such as a Universal Studios theme park, one of the world's largest oceanariums, six hotels offering 1,800 rooms and, of course, a world-class gambling casino meant to attract Asia's rich and famous.

Here (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120994058486065937.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)


^^ the concept sounds all too familiar, huh...

^gaya-gaya ang sentosa.

^gaya-gaya ang sentosa.

Nope sorry it's the other way around. Here are some pics I took of the development in Sentosa last March 20... took them from our cable car:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Travel/049SentosaIsland.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Travel/048SentosaIsland.jpg

^infairness, mas maganda ang sa Pagcor.

Nope sorry it's the other way around. Here are some pics I took of the development in Sentosa last March 20... took them from our cable car:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Travel/049SentosaIsland.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Travel/048SentosaIsland.jpg

Impressive pics...

I figure if we pattern our Tourism City from Sentosa we can improve there design a little bit more...
But it would be nice to have something different from what they can offer.
Or maybe put a Filipino twist to it...

^infairness, mas maganda ang sa Pagcor.

Sige na nga :) Masaya naman ako at meron tayong ganitong proyekto.

Pero sa susunod, mag-post ka naman ng pics ng construction nito bago ka mag-compare at magsabi ng "mas maganda". Kahit man lang final renders :lol:

Sige na nga :) Masaya naman ako at meron tayong ganitong proyekto.

Pero sa susunod, mag-post ka naman ng pics ng construction nito bago ka mag-compare at magsabi ng "mas maganda". Kahit man lang final renders :lol:

Sure :) Sa Singapore kasi walang "paring" tumututol sa mga proyekto nila at samantalang sa "Pagcor" sobrang daming "paring" tumututol sa ikauunlad nang bayan. :lol: Malapit na din ilabas nang Pagcor yan sa bago nilang website kaya abangan na lang.

^^ pero tuloy na tuloy na yan! :)

^gaya-gaya ang sentosa.


Oo nga before mag accuse na Gaya Gaya sa atin, check natin yun facts... :lol:
Nauna pala sila sa concept... or mas mabilis lang sila kumilos...

Wah! Kailangan nang simulan ang dapat simulan!

PAGCOR! Dapat WORLD-CLASS ang ganda at attitude at aura ng Bay City or E-City.

Ang gulo kasi ng naming eh!

The PAGCOR Tower Should be the most ICONIC all over ASIA.

The hotels and casinos and the likes that should be built in that city should be done ASAP!

Wag tayo pahuhuli sa Vietnam which has its growth posted at 10 point something percent. Compared sa atin na 6.5 ata or 8.chuchu.....

Di ko alam.....

Wah!

Basta, gusto ko na itong maitayo!

Kung hinde, ako mag-dedesign ng lahat ng buildings dyan! Wah!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oo nga before mag accuse na Gaya Gaya sa atin, check natin yun facts... :lol:
Nauna pala sila sa concept... or mas mabilis lang sila kumilos...

mabilis lang sila kumilos dahil walng kumokontra, malamang isang linggo lang nilang na-plan ang pagbuo nang sentosa tapos sinumalan na talaga hahaha. Matagal na itong plano nang PAGCOR pero di matuloy dati kasi ang SIMBAHAN at mga muslim na squatter sa area na iyon. :))

^^ pero tuloy na tuloy na yan! :)

indeed :cheers:

PAL ilang taon ka na?

Wynn Resorts, Limited (WYNN)

Q1 2008 Earnings Call

May 1, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Operator

Your next question comes from Larry Haverty - Gamco.

Lawrence Haverty – Gamco Investors Inc.

A couple of days ago your significant investor Aruze put out a press release that they were considering doing something in the Philippines, about $2.5 billion and your name was in the press release in a kind of a strange way, the Wynn Corporation. Could you bring us up to date on what is or is not happening there?

Stephen A. Wynn

Well, first of all, I love Kazuo Okada as much as any man I’ve ever met in my life. He’s my partner and my friend and there’s hardly anything I won’t do for him. Now, we are not at the present time an investor nor do we contemplate an investment in the Philippines.

This is something that Kazuo Okada and his company Aruze has done on its own initiative. He consults me and has discussed it with me extensively and I have given him my own personal thoughts on the subject and advise and to the extent that he comes to me for any more advice or input, all of here at the company will be glad to give him our opinions. But that’s short of saying that this is a Wynn Resorts project. It is a Aruze project. Is that helpful, Larry?

Lawrence Haverty – Gamco Investors Inc.

It’s just it’s a large amount of money here and I’m wondering if he does it will he be taking some of his pretty substantial profits in your company, do you think?

Stephen A. Wynn

Larry, we filed an amended 13D over a year and a half ago in December that expressed and explained in detail the shareholder agreement between myself and Mr. Okada. We have what is commonly referred to as a lock-up. Neither one of us can sell any shares to anybody without the other’s permission. That’s in addition to a right of first of refusal that we share and a vote for the Board of Directors that I hold on behalf of Mr. Okada.

So, we don’t anticipate, and we have said so publicly with a Hart-Scott-Rodino filing and with an amended 13D, that our stock is for sale at any price but that we would purchase this company on price weakness up to 100%. So that’s not a new public statement I’m making. We filed Hart-Scott-Rodino in 2006. And I think that anybody who is short selling this company ought to keep that in mind. We would love to see a buying opportunity in this stock. Love to see a buying opportunity in this stock.




http://seekingalpha.com/article/75276-wynn-resorts-limited-q1-2008-earnings-call-transcript?source=homepage_transcripts_sidebar

mabilis lang sila kumilos dahil walng kumokontra, malamang isang linggo lang nilang na-plan ang pagbuo nang sentosa tapos sinumalan na talaga hahaha. Matagal na itong plano nang PAGCOR pero di matuloy dati kasi ang SIMBAHAN at mga muslim na squatter sa area na iyon. :))

The main cause of the delay is the entry of investors of this US$20B project. Congress just gave PAGCOR a new lease of life when the gaming license franchise was granted for another 25 years in 2007. Before the granting of the extension, PAGCOR was having a difficulty in enticing investors to pour in billions of dollar for this ambitious project.

The church and the alleged Moslem squatters are not the reason for the delay. Let's stop bigotry here. In the end, I'm glad that this project is already on the go.

I don't know If I'm the right thread. I just want to ask if the erected hideous looking houses beside Sentosia are illegal settlers or just temporary housing for construction workers? thanks! :)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7286/picture1lw5.png

Here's my own creation of what should the Pagcor Tower look like.


Basically I got the concept of this from the Philippine Flag. With the yellow, red and blue.

The Tower itself represents LuzViMinda, not mentioning that the tower is shaped with a slender touch. And also the hed of the tower resembles that of the Filipino Hat.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7140/salakot2012203zg4.jpg

looks like we've got a competition.

The Race is on.. :D

after Jakarta Tower, St. Moritz and Bumiputer Tower news about tallest building in Jakarta, now the news come from Emaar.. :cheers:

EMAAR TO BUILD S.E. ASIA'S TALLEST SKYSCRAPER IN JAKARTA
Monday, May 05, 2008; Posted: 11:40 PM

JAKARTA, May 06, 2008 (AsiaPulse via COMTEX) -- -- Dubai-based real estate giant Emaar Properties plans to build a landmark tower in Jakarta, to be the tallest skyscraper in Southeast Asia, a presidential envoy said.

Special envoy for Middle East Alwi Shihab said on Monday Emaar Chairman Mohamed Ali Alabbar had proposed the project to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during an informal meeting Saturday. At the moment, we are still looking for the right location in Jakarta for the project, Alwi told the newspaper The Jakarta Post.

Emaar, the largest land and real estate developer in the Gulf is famed for its on going construction in Dubai of the 718-meter tall Burj Dubai, which would be the tallest skyscraper in the world.

In March, Emaar signed a joint venture agreement with state-owned Bali Tourism Development Corp. to build an integrated tourism project in southern Lombok, Bali's neighboring island.

(ANTARA)

from http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1500607/

PAGCOR belum tentu dibuat paw... soalnya mereka memfokuskan membuat kota kecil dolo baru towernya...

yang pasti jika tower EMAAR ini dibuat pasti harusnya bisa mengalahkan PAGCOR maupun PETRONAS.

WAAA gak bisa membayangkan tower tertinggi ke 2 di dunia ada di INDONESIA.

Yes, they claimed.... they will beat Philippines Pagcor Tower, and it will be the 2nd tallest tower in the world after Dubai's.

^^^Ooooh...

Bring it on!
I love competition! Sana patulan sila ng PAGCOR! Para tumaas lalo si PAGCOR Tower!

i can only wish indonesia gudluck and also for us.

That's GREAT news for our neighbor! :cheers:

I really don't care if we get the tallest or not. I'm much interested in iconic structures built here.

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

Garbe! Bring it on, Indonesia! Wah! Dapat height ng PAGCOR Tower, dapat mga 800m. Leche! Love ko mga ganitong competition. Pagandahan kasi ang issue. At patibayan na rin ng mga gawa. It makes my blood pump even more harder especially para sa tower natin. Tara! Submit tayo ng papers sa PAGCOR para pataasin si PAGCOR Tower. Wah! :puke:>(

Whoa!

Kelangan nating magpasa ng petition sa PAGCOR na itanayo na to asap, at sana 800+M. :D

Sana mangyari.

aweeesomeee :eek2::eek2:
minimal 655m buat ngalahin PAGCOR Tower di Manila :D


Tentunya akan lebih dari PAGCOR Tower di Manila. Kan sudah di bilang bahwa Tower tertinggi di South East Asia.:cheers:

Is PAGCOR counted as a 'gedung' :? ....

btw, PAGCOR kaya tongkatnya Dumbledore yah... :D:D:D

Yes, they claimed.... they will beat Philippines Pagcor Tower, and it will be the 2nd tallest tower in the world after Dubai's.

I do not speak Bahasa, but I can tell that our Indonesian neighbors are keeping a keen interest in our PAGCOR TOWER IN MANILA in particular and in other developments around their archipelago in general.

I do not mind the competition.
Competition can bring out the best (and the worst) in everybody.

Makibaka at huwag matakot.

May the best (one with most iconic design and tallest ) skyscraper win.

:horse:

J.P.

Sana paunahin natin youn sa Indonesia... para lama natin kung gaano sila kataas... at di ni alam youn height ng Pagcor Tower...
then taasan natin sila by 1m... :lol:

Sneak Attack! :nuts:

Sana paunahin natin youn sa Indonesia... para lama natin kung gaano sila kataas... at di ni alam youn height ng Pagcor Tower...
then taasan natin sila by 1m... :lol:

Sneak Attack! :nuts:
:tiasd:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5167/pagcottoweral1.jpg
Thats a really tall building wow i believe the second tallest after Burj!

I hope this is not OT.

Just to remind us of what's going on beyond our shores.

:horse:

J.P.

I'll take the CN tower height... That's way taller than any structure in the country...
That itself is a great accomplishment...

As long as they build something that is eye catching...
And get the Manila Bay City (Bagong Nayong Pilipino Tourism City and Mall of Asia) rollin...

I'm excited for both projects. A supertall in both Jakarta and Manila would be great for Southeast Asia. In the end, if both projects are completed, they would be engineering feats both countries can be proud of.

^ indeed.

anything as tall or taller than the CN tower is an 'OMG this is so awesome' moment for me.

Tara. Magmatyag tayo sa kung ano ang mga projects sa Indon. Para may alam tayo sa kung ano ang mga pwedeng gawin para malampasan natin sila. Wah! :lol: :lol:

PAGCOR! Wah! Kilos na! Now na! Wah! :lol: :lol:

Any Updated News About the said E-City Guys! have any construction has been made in the reclaimed land?

^inaayos na ang lupa :)

NEW INVESTORS for PAGCOR CITY :banana:

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2008051121

Macau-based firms to build hotels, casinos in Pagcor Entertainment City
By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio
Monday, May 12, 2008
Three Macau-based companies have expressed interest in building three hotels and casinos in the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp’s (PAGCOR) Entertainment City.

“I have just been to Macau and three Macau casino operators told me they want to invest in the Philippines,” Ambassador Francis Chua special envoy on China trade and investments told The STAR.

In an interview at the sidelines of the first general membership meeting of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PCCI) yesterday, Chua said Macau businessmen are looking at other investment destinations because the cost of land in their country has gone up.

“The real estate in China has overheated that is why they would like to consider other investment opportunities,” Chua explained.

Chua said Chinese businessmen would like to invest as soon as possible.

“I am going to talk to PAGCOR to inquire if there are still openings in the Entertainment City.

Chua refused to divulge how much the investment for the three hotels and casinos will be revealing only that it is a “sizeable amount.”

“It will be big. It will definitely reach billions because they will build hotels that are comparable to the ones in Macau,” Chua noted.

Earlier, Pagcor chairman and CEO Ephraim Genuino said that as much as $20 billion would be spent in putting up the Entertainment City also known as PAGCOR City located in the reclaimed land near Manila Bay.

“The project is a shift (for Pagcor) from gaming into entertainment. We will form a Las Vegas in the Philippines,” Genuino said about the project.

PAGCOR city will be built in three phases on 800 hectares of reclaimed land. The first phase will host a hotel-resort and theme park. The next two phases will have retirement villages and entertainment centers.

Genuino said that only 25 percent of the total land area has so far been reclaimed, with the rest to be added as the project gets underway.

He said they are already in talks with Greek casino and resort operator Loutraki—a major player in the European gaming industry—for the development of Entertainment City’s first phase.

“We have also spoken with Ceasar’s Palace and Genting,” he said. Ceasar’s Palace is an American firm while Genting is from Malaysia.

Genuino said 90 percent of the funds for the project will come from foreign investors. Other funders from Japan, Europe, the US and South Korea have also signified interest in financing the project.

Read the article again... I think there is something wrong with it...

PAGCOR Entertainment City? E-City? Loutraki? Caesar's?

Eh mukhang lumang balita na yan ha.

NEW INVESTORS for PAGCOR CITY :banana:

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2008051121

Macau-based firms to build hotels, casinos in Pagcor Entertainment City
By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio
Monday, May 12, 2008
Three Macau-based companies have expressed interest in building three hotels and casinos in the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp’s (PAGCOR) Entertainment City.

“I have just been to Macau and three Macau casino operators told me they want to invest in the Philippines,” Ambassador Francis Chua special envoy on China trade and investments told The STAR.

In an interview at the sidelines of the first general membership meeting of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PCCI) yesterday, Chua said Macau businessmen are looking at other investment destinations because the cost of land in their country has gone up.

“The real estate in China has overheated that is why they would like to consider other investment opportunities,” Chua explained.

Chua said Chinese businessmen would like to invest as soon as possible.

“I am going to talk to PAGCOR to inquire if there are still openings in the Entertainment City.

Chua refused to divulge how much the investment for the three hotels and casinos will be revealing only that it is a “sizeable amount.”

“It will be big. It will definitely reach billions because they will build hotels that are comparable to the ones in Macau,” Chua noted.

Earlier, Pagcor chairman and CEO Ephraim Genuino said that as much as $20 billion would be spent in putting up the Entertainment City also known as PAGCOR City located in the reclaimed land near Manila Bay.

“The project is a shift (for Pagcor) from gaming into entertainment. We will form a Las Vegas in the Philippines,” Genuino said about the project.

PAGCOR city will be built in three phases on 800 hectares of reclaimed land. The first phase will host a hotel-resort and theme park. The next two phases will have retirement villages and entertainment centers.

Genuino said that only 25 percent of the total land area has so far been reclaimed, with the rest to be added as the project gets underway.

He said they are already in talks with Greek casino and resort operator Loutraki—a major player in the European gaming industry—for the development of Entertainment City’s first phase.

“We have also spoken with Ceasar’s Palace and Genting,” he said. Ceasar’s Palace is an American firm while Genting is from Malaysia.

Genuino said 90 percent of the funds for the project will come from foreign investors. Other funders from Japan, Europe, the US and South Korea have also signified interest in financing the project.

[QUOTE=-TC-;20578807]Read the article again... I think there is something wrong with it...

PAGCOR Entertainment City? E-City? Loutraki? Caesar's?


Well I do believe what Genuino said is old story, but I think the news article is more focused on the Macau Investors. That's the what's new. But we still hope some western investors will come to Pagcor City to elevate the project above our other asian neighbors. We don't wanna settle for second best, do we?

The article also said that they will reclaim more land for the other interested locators, so that means PAGCOR City will not just have Genting, SM, Bloombery, and Aruze as locators, but also some Macau casino operators (I hope Stanley Ho will be one of the locators), Loutraki, possibly Caesar's Palace. Let's also hope that Wynn, Las Vegas Sands (hopefully a Venetian Resort bigger than the Venetian Macau), and MGM will also locate at the PAGCOR City when all reclamation for the 800 hectares is done.

The article also said that they will reclaim more land for the other interested locators, so that means PAGCOR City will not just have Genting, SM, Bloombery, and Aruze as locators, but also some Macau casino operators (I hope Stanley Ho will be one of the locators), Loutraki, possibly Caesar's Palace. Let's also hope that Wynn, Las Vegas Sands (hopefully a Venetian Resort bigger than the Venetian Macau), and MGM will also locate at the PAGCOR City when all reclamation for the 800 hectares is done.

But it looks like the information in that article (aside from the Macau investors) are outdated and from around last year. It has the same quotes (like PAGCOR City being 800 hectares and Loutraki being one of the interested investors), which totally contradict the announcements last month which said the total area of Phase 1 will be only 90 hectares.

lol..


Excited na talaga ako dito. :)

Manila Momentum
Pagcor Legacy project breaks ground

by GlobalGamblingBusiness Staff
http://www.ggbmagazine.com/articles/Manila_Momentum

With bishops and other representatives of the Roman Catholic Church participating in the blessing ceremony, ground was broken last month on the long-awaited Philippines casino and entertainment center complex officially known by the slogan-busting name, “Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City”—which has mercifully been shortened to Pagcor City or Tourism City.


Located on 40 hectares of reclaimed land on Manila Bay, Pagcor City will feature casinos, world-class hotels, restaurants, convention space, shopping malls, racetracks, amusement parks, educational and cultural centers, a sports stadium, theaters, residences, a hospital district and other facilities.


Planning for the massive project began in 2001 under the leadership of Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (Pagcor) Chairman and CEO Efraim Genuino.


Genuino led the groundbreaking ceremony at the Reclamation Area in Parañaque City. A time capsule containing the plans for the city was buried.


Pagcor announced the approval of plans submitted by four participants in the project: Aruze Corporation of Japan; Bloombury Investments Ltd. with headquarters in the British Virgin Islands; Genting Berhad Group of Malaysia; and the Philippines-based SM Investments Corporation.


The Aruze Corporation concept is the Okada Resort Manila Bay. This is a casino resort with 2,000 standard hotel rooms and 300 VIP suites, an ocean aquarium intended to be the largest in the world, theaters, a sports arena and museum, and a giant “Manila Eye” Ferris wheel, named after the enormous London Eye wheel at Greenwich.


Genting Berhad Group, which owns and operates the Genting Highlands Resort in Malaysia, will be represented by its subsidiary Star Cruises, which just announced it had entered into an agreement with Philippines property force Alliance Global Group. A subsidiary of Alliance, Travelers International Hotel Group, has filed an application for a provisional gaming license with Pagcor. Their joint contribution will be casino gaming, several hotels with at least 2,000 rooms total, a world-class theme park (operated by Universal Studios, Genting’s partner in Singapore), a museum and a tower that will be the tallest in the world.


SM Investments Corporation, one of the Philippines’ largest companies, will partner with Asia Pacific Gaming of Australia. Their plan is to build a world-class gaming facility, a luxury hotel managed by Radisson Hotels & Resorts, a museum and a sports arena. The location will be SM Investments’ Mall of Asia complex, which adjoins part of the Pagcor City area.


Bloombury Investments will build three luxury hotels with 1,500 rooms total, high-end retail shopping, restaurants, a showroom, a museum, and an entertainment and sports center.


When completed, Pagcor City is expected to raise tourism from outside the country to over three million visitors annually. Over 250,000 new jobs are expected to be created as a result. Total investment is to be between $15 billion and $20 billion.


The Philippines’ future casino center is another project richer with the announcement that the Waterfront hotels group will cooperate with an unnamed Macau-based operator to build a 2,500- room hotel with casino inside Pagcor City limits.


The estimated cost of the project is between $500 million and $1 billion. Construction is to begin in 2009 and take four years to complete.

To our asean neighbours: bring it on..:cheers:

mukhang hindi yata updated yung Ambassador natin! old news lang ata yung alam niya!

just found it though its kinda old.. pang add sa details na lang bro..:)

Pero parang may point sila sa theme park. Hindi sya Universal Studio but operated by Universal Studio lang. Either way, world class pa din ang kalalabasan nya...

^korek :)

baka yung ipapangalang theme park ay Universal Theme Park lang. nyahahhaa

NEW INVESTORS for PAGCOR CITY :banana:

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2008051121

“I have just been to Macau and three Macau casino operators told me they want to invest in the Philippines,” Ambassador Francis Chua special envoy on China trade and investments told The STAR.

“I am going to talk to PAGCOR to inquire if there are still openings in the Entertainment City.

“It will be big. It will definitely reach billions because they will build hotels that are comparable to the ones in Macau,” Chua noted.
^^ As per the quote of Ambassador Chua, his talk with the Macau casino operators is just recent, meaning there is a possibility that more investors will locate at the PAGCOR City.


Genuino said that only 25 percent of the total land area has so far been reclaimed, with the rest to be added as the project gets underway.

He said they are already in talks with Greek casino and resort operator Loutraki—a major player in the European gaming industry—for the development of Entertainment City’s first phase.

“We have also spoken with Ceasar’s Palace and Genting,” he said. Ceasar’s Palace is an American firm while Genting is from Malaysia.

^^ As you can see, the present 90 hectare phase 1 is just the 25% of the total land area of PAGCOR City, and it also says that they will still reclaim land from the sea as more investors will want to locate at the PAGCOR City, bringing up the the total land area to 800 hectares, slightly bigger than the NAIA complex

^^ As you can see, the present 90 hectare phase 1 is just the 25% of the total land area of PAGCOR City, and it also says that they will still reclaim land from the sea as more investors will want to locate at the PAGCOR City, bringing up the the total land area to 800 hectares, slightly bigger than the NAIA complex

Very well said :banana:

Mananalo ang Azure na magtayo nang world's largest oceanarium :lol: kasi mauuna ang Sentosa ng singapore na itayo ang World's Largest nila kaya mauungusan natin sila kapag itinayo natin yung sa atin sa tourism city. :banana:

wow.. :applause: great news indeed!

since we know that reeking garbage will turn away both investors and tourists. they should now also focus on cleaning up the bay. the sooner they start the cleaner it will smell and the bluer it will look once pagcor city is up and operational.

the proposed bill: no more plastic law in the metro which was recently announced would be a good start. :)

^^ I think there's a department in the Philippines that tied up with a Singaporean firm to clean our Manila bay. I totally agree with the no plastic rule like in Taiwan. May bayad ang plastic sa Taiwan kapag nag grocery ka tapos pagbumili ka pa ng plastic bag parang ang sama ng tingin sa iyo ng ibang nakapila.

SM is now using Biodegradable plastic. Nakakatuwa lang...

^^^ Yipee! Wah! :lol: :lol:

http://www.aruze.com/en/ir/releases/2008/20080425_e_pr2.pdf

Casino Project in the Philippines

As announced in its “Business Realignment and Future Business Development” press release issued December 20, 2007, ARUZE GROUP seeks to commence the operation of a casino resort in the Asian region, which shall be conducted independently by ARUZE CORP. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”).

The successful operation of a casino resort necessitates rich knowledge and experience regarding hotel construction and operation, know-how concerning the creation of attractive facilities and superior personnel fully acquainted with casino resort operation. A project team has been established by the Company for the purpose of securing the above. Out of the abovementioned elements, where essential management-based know-how is concerned, the Company intends to proceed with the project under the full guidance of Wynn Resorts, Limited’s Steve Wynn.

The concept proposed by the Company for the “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City” project, which is currently being planned for the area of reclaimed land in the Philippine capital of Manila, has been highly received by the Philippine government. Based on this positive reception, the Company has initiated preparations towards materializing this business in the below manner, and has commenced arrangements for the site to be used.

Outline of Casino Project

(1) Site to Be Acquired - Plot of land adjacent to “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City”

(2) Planned Area - 40 hectares (400,000 square meters)

(3) Primary Facilities - Casino hotel, aquarium, art museum, sports facilities, Ferris wheel, commercial facilities, etc.

(4) Business Scale - Estimated total of approx. 250 billion JPY

(5) Future Timetable*
Site and provisional license acquisition: Between end of May 2008 and end of July 2008
Commencement of construction: Around Jan. 2009
Opening of casino and other facilities: Around Apr. 2010

*The acquisition of a provisional license is currently in the stages of deliberation. The above timetable is that foreseen by the Company at the current stage, and is subject to change in the future.

Further details will be provided in full once the site has been secured and acquisition of the license has been confirmed.

nabuhayan ako ng nabasa ko to

^^ As per the quote of Ambassador Chua, his talk with the Macau casino operators is just recent, meaning there is a possibility that more investors will locate at the PAGCOR City.



^^ As you can see, the present 90 hectare phase 1 is just the 25% of the total land area of PAGCOR City, and it also says that they will still reclaim land from the sea as more investors will want to locate at the PAGCOR City, bringing up the the total land area to 800 hectares, slightly bigger than the NAIA complex

If the 90 hectares of Phase 1 is just 25% of the total PAGCOR City area, then the total area of PAGCOR City is 360 hectares. :)

But we should just wait for more information from PAGCOR regarding land area. Remember that they announced they were looking for another site for Phase 2 because all of the land for Phase 1 had been taken up by the first investors.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1338/masterplangq3.jpg

Di na rin ako makapaghintay d2 sa RP BIGGEST TOURISM PROJECT! lalo na ung Pagcor Tower! kitang kita un d2 sa amin!:cheers:

^lalo na sa Metro Manila.


Maabot pa ba nito ang Antipolo?

But we should just wait for more information from PAGCOR regarding land area. Remember that they announced they were looking for another site for Phase 2 because all of the land for Phase 1 had been taken up by the first investors.

^^ but they said they will still reclaim land from the Manila Bay for the Phase 2.

How come they were considering Cebu and other areas for Phase 2, then?

Believe me, I'd love for Phase 2 to be within the PAGCOR City area but so far there's been some conflicting reports. I really hope you're right and PAGCOR City's Phase 1 and Phase 2 (and maybe Phase 3?) will be one contiguous mini city in Manila Bay.

^Huh? Any article to support your post?


Sorry, im not Anti-Cebu but Cebu still don't have the guts to be like Manila Bay Tourism City haha. Phase 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all in one place. duh!

^^ but they said they will still reclaim land from the Manila Bay for the Phase 2.

Hindi lang niya naunawaan yung sinabi ng Pagcor :lol: :lol:

^^ malabo din kasi yung PAGCOR. Sabi nila they will reclaim land for the phase 2, 3, 4 and other phases. Tapos bigla nilang sinabi "Ay sa Cebu na lang phase 2." Tapos ngayon sabi na naman nila i-rereclaim na lang nila Manila Bay for the other phases. Ano ba talaga Mr. Genuino?

^ Sa Manila Bay na lahat. :) tae lang minsan ang mga press releases

^ Gumawa sila ng isang contiguous mini-city sa Manila Bay tapos gumawa din sila sa Cebu para masaya lahat! ;)

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Nagbayad pala ng piyansa si Bishop Oscar Cruz para sa kasong libelo laban sa kanya. Ang tanong: Saan galing ang P10,000?!?

Wala pa palang updated news! weeeeee

^ Gumawa sila ng isang contiguous mini-city sa Manila Bay tapos gumawa din sila sa Cebu para masaya lahat! ;)



awesome pero iba naman siguro ang planong Tourism City ng Pagcor for Manila Bay dahil dito ang sentro ng proyekto at nakapaloob ang phase 1-4 at iba din naman ang World Class Tourism City project ng pagcor for Cebu kaya nga lang mas malaki at mas maganda ang sa Manila Bay. :):cheers:

^ Hindi mo na sana sinabing mas malaki at mas maganda dahil wala pa ngang nagagawa eh. :laugh:

I do hope we have a similar project for Cebu though since we need to capitalize on the fact that Cebu is the number 1 destination for foreign tourists in the Philippines.

^ Hindi mo na sana sinabing mas malaki at mas maganda dahil wala pa ngang nagagawa eh. :laugh:

I do hope we have a similar project for Cebu though since we need to capitalize on the fact that Cebu is the number 1 destination for foreign tourists in the Philippines.

nyahahaha. pero yun din ang kalalabasan nun. :lol:

^^ i guess it would be fine if they place another tourism city spot in cebu, since one of the investors of the project is star cruise.. cebu would be one of the attractive cruise destination of the region, or mactan island..

^kaya lang nasa phase 1 na siya ng Manila Bay Tourism City :)

^ It wouldn't hurt to have another one. ;)

Masyado ka namang anti-province. :nono:

waaaaaaaaaaaa wag pow muna keo mag away 2ngkol sa lipatan ng projects sa palagay ganito ung plan nila!

1. If ang Pagcor City sa Manila Bay ay magiging successful (including Phase 1 -4) until 2010 -2012 there a posibility na additonal Pagcor City will be built to other potential city (Province) as a tourism destination, maaring ibang brand o investor naman ang mag invest ( ex. Disney land ) :banana:

2.Kunwari Tapos na ung Pagcor City at naging successful, pedeng mag karoon ng competion among provinces para sa another tourism project tulad ng MEDICAL CITY ( Including World Class City full of Hospital and Retirement Villages ) para sa ating mga citizen at mga foreigner.

3.World Class Hotel (7 Star) + BPO CITY sa isang maliit na Isla

D ba aus ba naicipip ko, d lang un tulad ng PENTAGON OF THE FAR EAST (to be the World Largest Military Offices at maging International HUB OF ASIA ( including world Largest Shipping Dock and Harbor) kc mas maganda ang ating Strategical Location

^ Hi there. Please reminded that SSC strongly discourages typing in text message lingo. Thanks for your cooperation! :)

waaaaaaaaaaaa wag pow muna keo mag away 2ngkol sa lipatan ng projects sa palagay ganito ung plan nila!

1. If ang Pagcor City sa Manila Bay ay magiging successful (including Phase 1 -4) until 2010 -2012 there a posibility na additonal Pagcor City will be built to other potential city (Province) as a tourism destination, maaring ibang brand o investor naman ang mag invest ( ex. Disney land ) :banana:

2.Kunwari Tapos na ung Pagcor City at naging successful, pedeng mag karoon ng competion among provinces para sa another tourism project tulad ng MEDICAL CITY ( Including World Class City full of Hospital and Retirement Villages ) para sa ating mga citizen at mga foreigner.

3.World Class Hotel (7 Star) + BPO CITY sa isang maliit na Isla

D ba aus ba naicipip ko, d lang un tulad ng PENTAGON OF THE FAR EAST (to be the World Largest Military Offices at maging International HUB OF ASIA ( including world Largest Shipping Dock and Harbor) kc mas maganda ang ating Strategical Location


Very well said :cheers: :lol:

Is the project still progressing!? i don't hear any news about it.

^yep, scan the previous pages.

This will really be a very big project!!! :)

Nakakatawa nga lang kasi malapit na nating maabot ang thread limit (1,000 posts) pero wala pa talagang concrete information at clear developments about this project. :laugh:

Nakakatawa nga lang kasi malapit na nating maabot ang thread limit (1,000 posts) pero wala pa talagang concrete information at clear developments about this project. :laugh:

waaaa hanggang 1k post lang pala ( sory im a newbie here :cheers:) pero cguro aabutin pa e2 ng 3k post bago matapos e2ng project na e2 coz all of us is very excited in these RP Biggest Toursim project...

^ Hi there. Please reminded that SSC strongly discourages typing in text message lingo. Thanks for your cooperation! :)
HI sinjin sory im a newbie here :bash:

This will really be a very big project!!! :)

indeed!! Really BiG project for Metro manila :banana:

waaaaaaaaaaaa wag pow muna keo mag away 2ngkol sa lipatan ng projects sa palagay ganito ung plan nila!

1. If ang Pagcor City sa Manila Bay ay magiging successful (including Phase 1 -4) until 2010 -2012 there a posibility na additonal Pagcor City will be built to other potential city (Province) as a tourism destination, maaring ibang brand o investor naman ang mag invest ( ex. Disney land ) :banana:



It would be nice kung each island in the Philippines would have its unique or its own identity... Huwag naman sana maggayahan and what would end up each one would be killing each others business. Ganoon ang nangyayari usually. Lahat nagpupunta kung sa "in" or "latest". Tapos ang mga dating establishments nawawalan na ng patrons at napapabayaan na. So instead of maintaining it, nasisira na lang. Like dito sa US it has been always Vegas. Although there are small casino areas like Reno and Atlantic City, the high end casino investments are still in Vegas. Tapos its possible din each island would have its unique entertainment project. Disneyland in Cebu. Universal in Palawan etc... at least lahat mapupuntahan...

It would be nice kung each island in the Philippines would have its unique or its own identity... Huwag naman sana maggayahan and what would end up each one would be killing each others business. Ganoon ang nangyayari usually. Lahat nagpupunta kung sa "in" or "latest". Tapos ang mga dating establishments nawawalan na ng patrons at napapabayaan na. So instead of maintaining it, nasisira na lang. Like dito sa US it has been always Vegas. Although there are small casino areas like Reno and Atlantic City, the high end casino investments are still in Vegas. Tapos its possible din each island would have its unique entertainment project. Disneyland in Cebu. Universal in Palawan etc... at least lahat mapupuntahan...

Sinabi mo pa. nakakalungkot lang ang daming gustong gumaya. :ohno:

indeed!! Really BiG project for Metro manila :banana:

Not just for Metro Manila but for the whole Philippines.

Sinabi mo pa. nakakalungkot lang ang daming gustong gumaya. :ohno:

Sinong gustong gumaya?

Bukod sa Metro Manila, maganda siguro kung sa Ilo-Ilo na lang pagandahin ang Kalakarang Pang-negosyo ng Visayas. Ang Ganda talaga ng Airport nila. :)

pardon my pessimism about this entire project but this project is just too good to be true. And like they way if its too good to be true then its not true. If this project was announced say in malaysia, or vietnam or even thailand siguro matutuloy with few hitches but not in this country. Remember this project is headed by pagcor a govt controlled corporation. As such corruption will be very prevalent. Ang unang tanong dyan ng mga makikisawsaw ay "magkano ang parte ko dyan?" Then they will all give foreign investors a hard time getting licenses and stuffs and start mulcting them money. A recent example would be the $2B hanjin shipyard sa mindanao. Local officials were asking astronomical sums of money from the korean firm to allow them to proceed with the project. This really turned off the korean investors. I really duno what will happen to the project now. If the local officials were only nationalistic and patriotic, e di sana he should have made things really easy for the investors to setup business in their area. Simply bcoz with a huge project like that, it would have provided huge number of emplyment opportunities to the local people as well as new businesses will be setup to support this new project. Kaso swapang at corrupt as usual mga tao kaya ayun wala na. Sino pa kayang foreigner that gustong mag invest sa pinas when magulo dito. Magulo kausap mga tao. Eh ang dami dami namang ibang bansa dyan which welcomes investors with open arms. Ang mahal mahal pa ng sweldo dito compare to china or vietnam.

^^ Well said, but hopefully, it won't be the same with this project. I'm actually optimistic about this one.

pardon my pessimism about this entire project but this project is just too good to be true. And like they way if its too good to be true then its not true. If this project was announced say in malaysia, or vietnam or even thailand siguro matutuloy with few hitches but not in this country. Remember this project is headed by pagcor a govt controlled corporation. As such corruption will be very prevalent. Ang unang tanong dyan ng mga makikisawsaw ay "magkano ang parte ko dyan?" Then they will all give foreign investors a hard time getting licenses and stuffs and start mulcting them money. A recent example would be the $2B hanjin shipyard sa mindanao. Local officials were asking astronomical sums of money from the korean firm to allow them to proceed with the project. This really turned off the korean investors. I really duno what will happen to the project now. If the local officials were only nationalistic and patriotic, e di sana he should have made things really easy for the investors to setup business in their area. Simply bcoz with a huge project like that, it would have provided huge number of emplyment opportunities to the local people as well as new businesses will be setup to support this new project. Kaso swapang at corrupt as usual mga tao kaya ayun wala na. Sino pa kayang foreigner that gustong mag invest sa pinas when magulo dito. Magulo kausap mga tao. Eh ang dami dami namang ibang bansa dyan which welcomes investors with open arms. Ang mahal mahal pa ng sweldo dito compare to china or vietnam.

indeed! grabe ang corruption pero sa aking palagay tuloy na ito. Kung wala pa sa 2010 then.. alam na :lol:

pardon my pessimism about this entire project but this project is just too good to be true. And like they way if its too good to be true then its not true. If this project was announced say in malaysia, or vietnam or even thailand siguro matutuloy with few hitches but not in this country. Remember this project is headed by pagcor a govt controlled corporation. As such corruption will be very prevalent. Ang unang tanong dyan ng mga makikisawsaw ay "magkano ang parte ko dyan?" Then they will all give foreign investors a hard time getting licenses and stuffs and start mulcting them money. A recent example would be the $2B hanjin shipyard sa mindanao. Local officials were asking astronomical sums of money from the korean firm to allow them to proceed with the project. This really turned off the korean investors. I really duno what will happen to the project now. If the local officials were only nationalistic and patriotic, e di sana he should have made things really easy for the investors to setup business in their area. Simply bcoz with a huge project like that, it would have provided huge number of emplyment opportunities to the local people as well as new businesses will be setup to support this new project. Kaso swapang at corrupt as usual mga tao kaya ayun wala na. Sino pa kayang foreigner that gustong mag invest sa pinas when magulo dito. Magulo kausap mga tao. Eh ang dami dami namang ibang bansa dyan which welcomes investors with open arms. Ang mahal mahal pa ng sweldo dito compare to china or vietnam.


Quite well said. Pero kagaya ng sinabi ni @X_MD, we are very optimistic about this project. This would boost not just business, but also the overall aspect of the PI to the world. Hindi mo masisisisi kung anong meron tayong sistema dito. We are in a Third World country. Pero i know as an optimistic and a nationalistic person, I know that HE PGMA is doing well with her job. Sana lang mareach ng gov't yung target na 8% growth for this year. Sana lang talaga. Para sosyal na ang PILIPINAS! Wah! :lol: :lol:

Tapusin muna ng Cebu ang SRP niya at mga proyekto sa rumors thread gaya ng LRT, theme parks, etc. bago niya ambisyonin ang Pagcor Entertainment City.

^ Sino bang nagsabi na ang Cebu ay nangangambisyon ng isang Pagcor Entertainment City? :laugh: Ang daming anti-province dito. :nono:

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Go Pasay!:banana:
Teka, sa Parañaque nga pala 'to, 'no? Go kapitbahay!:banana2:

Tapusin muna ng Cebu ang SRP niya at mga proyekto sa rumors thread gaya ng LRT, theme parks, etc. bago niya ambisyonin ang Pagcor Entertainment City.

Well Said. :lol:

Go Pasay!:banana:
Teka, sa Parañaque nga pala 'to, 'no? Go kapitbahay!:banana2:

Go kapitbahay nga. :banana: :cheers:

Well Said. :lol:

Okay enough of this indirect expression of hate to the provinces. Let this post serve as a warning to you and potchot. Whoever in here who doesn't want development in the Philippines, wherever it may be, should leave.

2. Expression of hate. We do not tolerate hateful messages. This includes things such as racism, sexism, xenophobia, religious bashing, open support of terrorism, homophobia, ultra nationalism or provincialism. If you generally have a problem with an entire group of people because of their nationality, religion, race or sexuality, that is your problem. Don't make it ours too. This rule is especially applicable to forumers who hijack or troll a thread/local forum, basically just to bash the topic or participants of the thread/local forum. This also applies to forumers who persistently engage in posting news articles with an agenda as identified by the SSC staff.

Alright, back to the topic, and lets stick to facts

Okay enough of this indirect expression of hate to the provinces. Let this post serve as a warning to you and potchot. Whoever in here who doesn't want development in the Philippines, wherever it may be, should leave.


WTF?

Ganun? Wala naman akong sinabing ayaw ko ng development sa Philippines ah. Lagi ka bang ganyan? the nerve!! :ohno:

Ikaw kaya sumulpot bigla dito at naisama yang Cebu thingy na yan sa usapan. Sa totoo lang para kang Martial Law. :bash: tsk tsk tsk.

Nasisira ang isang magandang forum dahil sa moderator na gaya mo. Ang dapat mong gawin ay i-moderate mo ang post mo about Cebu. :ohno: Hindi yung mga posts na ayaw mo madinig. Masakit ba?

*pero hindi ako nakikipag-away sa iyo ah. Yung nasasaloob ko lang.


Back to Topic

The sad part is no matter what we do! We squeak, we shout, we pray, they can just afford to ignore us or just send us to limbo. Because they are in control! They are the boss! They have the power! :ohno:

i rest my case

^ i've been observing this forum and i've noticed you are one troublesome forumer.

What a sad case of unreasonable mental incapacity. I don't even see how Cebu had become an object of hatred. Simply unreasonable. We want updates on this project people, not senseless immaturity.

We should not worry, Cebu will have its own PAGCOR City, but the focus is still the development of the Manila version.. we should just ignore those who want to create a ruckus in this forum...

I've read the PAL and Potchot entries but IMO I haven't seen any indirect hatred against Cebu. They've just indicated that Cebu should finish ongoing projects first before thinking of Pagcor city-type of grand project. Of course, they could have said it in a nicer way.

My major issue and which I'm very concerned about is that forumers are being threatened indiscriminately, unreasonably, and unjustifiably just to toe the line so to speak. Why threaten a forumer to leave just because he/she has a different view or opinion? This is ridiculous especially if we're not sure how they really feel about Cebu.

In our Crescent Park Residences thread, we were also told to focus on "construction updates" just because we were joking around. But in fact this same moderator has many entries in many threads that don't pertain to construction update. Is he violating his own rules? Why is he getting away with it? :ohno:

Perhaps I have to remind this moderator to modify the title of his new thread Slutt which IMO is highly offensive to all women. With your creativity, you can create better thread names. :)

With my comment, I'm sure you'll retaliate and ban a number of people including myself. It's perfectly fine because I have more important things to do. But let's just be reasonable and objective. Peace! :)

^ Sino bang nagsabi na ang Cebu ay nangangambisyon ng isang Pagcor Entertainment City? :laugh: Ang daming anti-province dito. :nono:
Hoy hindi ako anti-province, ha? In fact I love Baguio, Tagaytay, Subic, Clark, Calabarzon and the rest of Metro Luzon Urban Beltway.:hug:

In our Crescent Park Residences thread, we were also told to focus on "construction updates" just because we were joking around.

Actions were done based on the complaints and feedback of some forumers who actively follow the projects and construction threads. Same applies for this thread as I've received several complaints about the posts of Potchot and PAL. They might not sound offensive to you but for the provincial forumers, they are and since these posts can be avoided, they should. The warnings given should not be taken as threats but as friendly reminders since we value our forumers and it hurts very much to ban one. :)

Hoy hindi ako anti-province, ha? In fact I love Baguio, Tagaytay, Subic, Clark, Calabarzon and the rest of Metro Luzon Urban Beltway.:hug:

That's good to hear. :grouphug:

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Alright, lets move on with the thread topic. Thank you for your continued cooperation. :)

^Ok :)

wala bang bagong balita diyan?

:hm:

Tapusin muna ng Cebu ang SRP niya at mga proyekto sa rumors thread gaya ng LRT, theme parks, etc. bago niya ambisyonin ang Pagcor Entertainment City.

whow...

napadaan kami dito kanina, may mga trucks siya pero hindi ko makita ung developments sa loob ang tataas kasi ng talahib, tas mukha namang may nangyayari sa loob.

^^^^ ooh..... sneakinly suspicious eh?! may dala bang lupa?

^ wala, naka park lang ung mga truck. :hilarious

pero ung kalsada malalaman mong may dev't kasi ang dumi puro putik. lol

tpos may mga bandila pa..muhahaha..oo nga..ang hirap makita sa malayo kasi ang tataas ng talahib..mukang disyerto nga eh..pero may mga pang construction n gamit sa loob.. iyon lng..kakadaan ko lng papunta ng cavite,..hehehe.. ^_^

wala pa bang development ahh! baka ginawang tambayn ng truck ng MMDA ung reclaimed land!

muka namang hindi kasi walang MMDA n truck sa loob.. yellow ung truck eh..hindi fenk.. hehehe.. ^_^

matanong lang po..may thread ba pra sa pasig river?.. salamat.. ^_^

^^http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=431477&page=36

...alam mo na pala...

tpos may mga bandila pa..muhahaha..oo nga..ang hirap makita sa malayo kasi ang tataas ng talahib..mukang disyerto nga eh..pero may mga pang construction n gamit sa loob.. iyon lng..kakadaan ko lng papunta ng cavite,..hehehe.. ^_^

Hi wolf, welcome to SkyscraperCity. Please be reminded that text lingo is not allowed in the forums. Thanks for your cooperation. :)

Pasaway at palaban talaga si Bishop Cruz. Sobrang galit sa Pagcor at GMA administration... I hope he does not cause problems to derail the Bagong Nayong Pilipino tourism project. Madaming matutlungang Pilipino ang project na ito.

Cruz: Pagcor libel case won’t stop my fight vs gambling
05/24/2008
Tribune
http://www.tribune.net.ph/nation/20080524nat4.html

Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz yesterday said despite his facing a libel suit, he will continue on in his “role” as a critic of the government, particularly over its open support for the operations of gambling in the country.

Cruz, who heads the so-called People’s Crusade Against Gambling, said he is willing to go to jail just to call the nation’s attention to the “evils of Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp.).”

“Not even the iron bars of prison can prevent me from continuing my crusade against both legal and illegal gambling, which is being promoted by this government,” he said.

Cruz is facing a libel case filed against him by 20 woman employees of the Pagcor whom, in his newspaper column, he said were turned into “pitiful GROs (guest relations officers)” during the birthday party of First Gentleman Jose Miguel “Mike” Arroyo in Malacañang in 2004.

The women said they were hurt when Cruz depicted them as GROs in his article and demanded he apologize for the “slanderous” pronouncements he made against them. He, however, refused to do so.

Cruz reiterated that he had no intention of disparaging the reputation of the 20 woman employees of Pagcor with what he wrote, but that he was even trying to defend them.

He was found guilty of the libel charge by Manila Regional Trial Court (MRTC) Branch 52 Judge Antonio Rosales, who issued an arrest warrant against him last May 13.

Cruz, however, posted bail in the amount of P10,000 and was granted temporary liberty by the court last May 14.

His arraignment on the case has been set on June 17.

Cruz accused Malacañang of being behind the revival of the libel suit, saying a Manila prosecutor had already scrapped the four-year-old case in 2004.

“This is their way of getting back against me,” he said.

The prelate, though, said he had no plans of suing Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez for having revived the libel case after two youth groups urged him to do so.

The Youth for Accountability and Truth Now! (Youth Act Now!) and the College Editors Guild of the Philippines have prodded Cruz to file his own libel case against Gonzalez to allegedly give the justice secretary “a dose of his own medicine.”

In continuing with his criticism of the government, Cruz said while its “doors” are wide open to corruption, the Arroyo administration has been doing nothing but ensure its political survival.

He said he sees the problem of corruption in government not going away but would rather get worse as President Arroyo’s term nears its end in 2010.

“Corruption will not decrease. It has been happening for a long time and it will only worsen." Cruz told reporters.

ay ganon ba pasensya na ha. tagal na din ako na kiki basa dito pero ngayon lang ako naki sali. hehe. para namang kulangot iyang si cruz. kulang lang siguro sa tulog yan. pati burger. hehe

salamat pala sa link.

wala pa bang development ahh! baka ginawang tambayn ng truck ng MMDA ung reclaimed land!

hindi naman, meron siya. :)

Casinos to be covered by money launder law
By Des Ferriols
Monday, May 26, 2008
PhilStar
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080525109

Congress will have to pass a new law to specifically include casinos in anti-money laundering regulations to allay concerns of the international financial community and avoid reprisal.

The Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC) told the congressional oversight committee that the Anti-Money Laundering Act (AMLA) would have to be amended to include casinos as one of the institutions to be monitored for anti-money laundering purposes.

AMLC executive director Vicente Aquino told lawmakers that the council had asked the Office of the President to issue an executive order compelling casinos to comply with AMLA regulations.

Aquino, however, said Malacañang pointed out the law does not cover the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) and its casinos.

“Their opinion was that the AMLA would have to be amended to include casinos in the list of regulated institutions,” Aquino told committee chairmen Sen. Edgardo Angara and Manila Rep. Jaime Lopez.

“That is the only way the council can monitor these operations,” he said.

The Asia Pacific Group on Money Laundering (APG), along with the World Bank, is scheduled to conduct its evaluation of the country’s anti-money laundering operations in October and casino operations is one of their major concerns.

After its annual meeting in Manila, then APG co-chairman Mick Keelty said the group noted the Philippine government’s aggressive efforts to curb money laundering.

But the APG said it was studying the movement of funds through designated non-financial businesses and professions such as casinos, non-profit organizations, real estate developers, alternative remittance channels and even jewelry and art dealers.

“These businesses are continuously evolving and we are studying exactly how they work, how money laundering happens and how we can stop them,” Keelty said.

He said casinos do not only involve people gambling in the actual physical location but also online betting.

In the Philippines, casinos have reporting methods that establish a paper trail for its customers but the same is not true in all jurisdictions.

AMLC’s Aquino said access to these documents was not automatic or required. This means that PAGCOR and all the casinos it operates would have to volunteer the information on suspicious transactions.

Angara and Lopez agreed that AMLA might have to be amended to expand its coverage, but according to AMLC sources, this might not be easy.

According to an official privy to ongoing discussions, the AMLA had the basic flaw of listing down covered institutions as any and all entities under three specific regulatory agencies – the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas, Securities and Exchange Commission and the Insurance Commission.

“By that logic, the law would have to list the Office of the President (OP) and all institutions under it as covered institutions because PAGCOR is under the OP,” the official said.

The international norm, according to the official, is to list the type of activities regardless of which government agency actually regulates them.

“This makes anti-money laundering laws more flexible in other countries,” the source said.

The Paris-based Financial Action Task Force on Anti Money Laundering (FATF) is pressing for the inclusion of gaming establishments, particularly casinos, as a covered institution under the AMLA.

Although PAGCOR has volunteered to cooperate with the AMLC, the FATF said they wanted specific regulatory measures in place to make reporting compulsory.

Under the FATF recommendation, Aquino said member countries need to pass a measure that would have the effect of law.

Gaming establishments could also form an organization and make it a requirement for members to report anomalous transactions to the AMLC.

^ Sino bang nagsabi na ang Cebu ay nangangambisyon ng isang Pagcor Entertainment City? :laugh: Ang daming anti-province dito. :nono:



:tyty: Federalist versus Republican is more apt :tyty:

:horse:

:banana:

:cheers2: :cheers: :cheers1:

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/06042008/companies06.html

AGI firm gets gaming license
By Honey Madrilejos-Reyes
BusinessMirror
June 4, 2008

TRAVELLERS International Hotel Group, Inc., a subsidiary of listed Alliance Global Group Inc. (AGI), is inching closer to its plan to build a leisure development on the Manila Bay reclamation site.

This, after the Philippine Amusement Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) issued a provisional gaming license to Travellers.

But there is still no cause for celebration. AGI first vice president Dina Inting said the granting of the license is just one of requirements that Travellers needs to secure from the gaming agency.

AGI, led by property tycoon Andrew Tan, earlier announced that it was in talks with Star Cruises Ltd. for a joint venture to develop a $1-billion integrated leisure and resort within the government-initiated Bagong Nayong Pilipino, which is envisioned to be the country’s version of Las Vegas.

Star Cruises, the world’s third-largest cruise operator and an affiliate of the Malaysian conglomerate Genting Group, is interested to acquire up to 40 percent of Travellers, to serve as its vehicle to participate in the Philippine government’s ambitious plan to put up a multibillion-dollar integrated tourism zone.

Negotiations between AGI and Star Cruises are expected to be finalized next month.

AGI’s plan is to build hotels with over 1,000 rooms spread out over several phases of development.

Bagong Nayong Pilipino will sit on a 40-hectare property in the Manila Bay reclamation area and feature leisure and entertainment facilities including theme park, theaters, amusement and cultural centers, retail and gaming centers and hotels.

Pagcor aims to use the Bagong Nayong Pilipino as a catalyst to sustain the growth of the country’s tourism industry. It hopes to attract at least $4 billion in investments and generate about 100,000 jobs once the entire development is fully completed.

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/june/04/yehey/business/20080604bus13.html

Wednesday, June 04, 2008


AGI unit granted license to join
Bagong Nayong Pilipino project


A subsidiary of Alliance Global Group Inc. (AGI) has secured the license from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. to participate in the Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City project, AGI told the Philippine Stock Exchange.

In a disclosure, Andrew Tan’s holding company said Pagcor has issued a provisional license to Travellers International Hotel Group Inc., a subsidiary of AGI, pursuant to the prequalification requirement of the government for interested players in the new entertainment complex to be built along Manila Bay.

However, the government has prohibited the company from disclosing to the public any information on the Pagcor license and any related items, Dina D. Inting, AGI first vice president for finance and corporate information officer, told The Manila Times.

Meanwhile, Travellers has partnered with Star Cruises Ltd., an affiliate of Malaysian conglomerate the Genting Group, to develop a $1-billion integrated leisure and resort project that will encompass a theme park, theaters, amusement and cultural centers, retail and a gaming centers and hotels in the planned entertainment complex. Star Cruises Ltd. is the third largest cruise operator in the world.

In its application to participate in the Pagcor project, AGI said the Travellers plans to build hotels with at least 1,000 rooms in phases.

As stated in Pagcor’s terms of reference for the tourism project, each application by interested parties should be accompanied by a non-refundable manager’s check of $50,000 payable to the state-owned corporation.

The applicant should also “have the financial capability and a well-established experience in the hotel and gaming business.” On the other hand, prospective financial investors are required to engage the services of qualified hotel and gaming operators with proven record in running world-class hotel and gaming projects.

Applicants for the project must also submit proposals for a total entertainment complex and invest at least $1 billion in both equity and debt. Of the total, at least $400 million must be invested during the first phase of the project. The phases can be divided into casino proper, hotels, entertainment complex, shopping malls, and other entertainment and tourism facilities.

Pagcor said the casino must be operational within two and a half years upon the approval of the project while other components of Phase One must be completed within 5 years from the date of the approval.
-- Likha C. Cuevas-Miel

Wow naman yung mga provisions nila. Benefit ang lahat. Di lang basta kikita, gaganda pa ang economy at scenic view ng Manila Bay at magiging tourism hub tong proj na to!Mabibiyayaan din ang mga tao dahil 250,000 jobs ba???? ang maibibigay nila...

http://http://www.worldeyereports.com/reports/2008/2008_philippines/2008_philippines20.aspx

Going beyond gaming to sustain economic growth



Efraim C. Genuino, chairman and CEO of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp., or PAGCOR, (second from right) shows the resort-type Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City to foreign guests.

Over the past five years, the Philippine economy has grown primarily due to increasing remittances sent by overseas Filipino workers. Even based on the most conservative estimates, these inflows account for 25 percent of the country’s GDP.

While income from overseas workers buoys the economy, the downside of foreign currency remittances points to the so-called brain drain of skilled Filipino professionals in search of high wages abroad.

According to Efraim C. Genuino, chairman and CEO of the Philippine Amusement & Gaming Corp., or PAGCOR, Filipino workers must be given opportunities to practice their trade at competitive salaries domestically if the growth of the Philippine economy is to be sustainable.

‘‘The Philippines can be the next dragon in Asia. If our infrastructure and brain drain challenges can be addressed, I think this country can be great again. We are a rich country pretending to be poor. We have the natural resources and the labor to succeed. Within PAGCOR, we would like to do our part by paying our employees competitive dollar-denominated salaries. After all, if Filipinos receive their salaries in dollars, there is no need for us to go abroad,’’ he says.

In line with those objectives, PAGCOR hopes to generate that new kind of employment through its largest and ambitious project — the Bagong Nayong Pilipino (New Filipino City) — a multiphase project initially being constructed on 85 hectares of reclaimed land by Manila Bay this year.

Phase II of the project has a grander scope. It entails the construction of several ‘‘retirement cities’’ within a 700-hectare reclaimed territory. These themed cities are aimed at three nationalities, including Koreans and Japanese.

‘‘Our vision is to help the Japanese by putting up a Japanese city where Japanese retirees can stay and be treated by Japanese doctors. Although Japan is the second-largest economy in the world, it has had to accept that it can no longer service the needs of its baby boomer retirees. A $2,000 pension per month is not enough for these retirees to live in Japan. If they use that money here in the Philippines, however, it is more than enough to live a comfortable life,’’ explains Genuino.


PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Efraim C. Genuino is named one of the ‘‘People of the Year’’ by People Asia Magazine in 2006.

‘‘The Bagong Nayong Pilipino Japanese city addresses the needs and problems of the Japanese government on how to sustain the 3 million nationals over the age of 90 and the 35 percent or so of its population over the age of 60. In Japan, medical facilities are too limited to service all retirees while there are too few foreign nurses and caregivers due to the restrictions placed on them,’’ he says.

Bagong Nayong Pilipino addresses the needs of retirees who want readily available medical care. In Bagong Nayong Pilipino, Japanese doctors can practice assisted by capable Filipino doctors and nurses. Finally, it addresses the needs of the Philippine government to generate more local employment for our healthcare workers, many of whom are trying to go overseas. So it is a win-win situation for all,’’ he adds.

Phase II of the Bagong Nayong Pilipino will be the first time an Asian country has aimed at attracting a specific retiree community without a bilateral agreement. Although the initiative can be viewed as an act of diplomacy itself.

‘‘As Japan is an important stabilizer in Asia, the stability of Japan is very important to the Philippines. Since the Philippines has the manpower, resources and investment to offer a creative solution to Japan’s retiree problem, I hope the Japanese government realizes the urgency of this situation and extends us a welcoming hand,’’ states Genuino.

The plans for Bagong Nayong Pilipino are part of Genuino’s larger vision to transform PAGCOR into an internationally visible brand.

‘‘We envision making PAGCOR one of the leading contributors of the Philippine government in terms of employment and poverty alleviation. What I tell my people every day is to visualize PAGCOR as a global corporation with a global mind-set and a Filipino heart, and it will come true,’’ says Genuino.

http://http://www.worldeyereports.com/reports/2008/2008_philippines/2008_philippines20.aspx

Going beyond gaming to sustain economic growth



Efraim C. Genuino, chairman and CEO of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp., or PAGCOR, (second from right) shows the resort-type Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City to foreign guests.

Over the past five years, the Philippine economy has grown primarily due to increasing remittances sent by overseas Filipino workers. Even based on the most conservative estimates, these inflows account for 25 percent of the country’s GDP.

While income from overseas workers buoys the economy, the downside of foreign currency remittances points to the so-called brain drain of skilled Filipino professionals in search of high wages abroad.

According to Efraim C. Genuino, chairman and CEO of the Philippine Amusement & Gaming Corp., or PAGCOR, Filipino workers must be given opportunities to practice their trade at competitive salaries domestically if the growth of the Philippine economy is to be sustainable.

‘‘The Philippines can be the next dragon in Asia. If our infrastructure and brain drain challenges can be addressed, I think this country can be great again. We are a rich country pretending to be poor. We have the natural resources and the labor to succeed. Within PAGCOR, we would like to do our part by paying our employees competitive dollar-denominated salaries. After all, if Filipinos receive their salaries in dollars, there is no need for us to go abroad,’’ he says.

In line with those objectives, PAGCOR hopes to generate that new kind of employment through its largest and ambitious project — the Bagong Nayong Pilipino (New Filipino City) — a multiphase project initially being constructed on 85 hectares of reclaimed land by Manila Bay this year.

Phase II of the project has a grander scope. It entails the construction of several ‘‘retirement cities’’ within a 700-hectare reclaimed territory. These themed cities are aimed at three nationalities, including Koreans and Japanese.

‘‘Our vision is to help the Japanese by putting up a Japanese city where Japanese retirees can stay and be treated by Japanese doctors. Although Japan is the second-largest economy in the world, it has had to accept that it can no longer service the needs of its baby boomer retirees. A $2,000 pension per month is not enough for these retirees to live in Japan. If they use that money here in the Philippines, however, it is more than enough to live a comfortable life,’’ explains Genuino.


PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Efraim C. Genuino is named one of the ‘‘People of the Year’’ by People Asia Magazine in 2006.

‘‘The Bagong Nayong Pilipino Japanese city addresses the needs and problems of the Japanese government on how to sustain the 3 million nationals over the age of 90 and the 35 percent or so of its population over the age of 60. In Japan, medical facilities are too limited to service all retirees while there are too few foreign nurses and caregivers due to the restrictions placed on them,’’ he says.

Bagong Nayong Pilipino addresses the needs of retirees who want readily available medical care. In Bagong Nayong Pilipino, Japanese doctors can practice assisted by capable Filipino doctors and nurses. Finally, it addresses the needs of the Philippine government to generate more local employment for our healthcare workers, many of whom are trying to go overseas. So it is a win-win situation for all,’’ he adds.

Phase II of the Bagong Nayong Pilipino will be the first time an Asian country has aimed at attracting a specific retiree community without a bilateral agreement. Although the initiative can be viewed as an act of diplomacy itself.

‘‘As Japan is an important stabilizer in Asia, the stability of Japan is very important to the Philippines. Since the Philippines has the manpower, resources and investment to offer a creative solution to Japan’s retiree problem, I hope the Japanese government realizes the urgency of this situation and extends us a welcoming hand,’’ states Genuino.

The plans for Bagong Nayong Pilipino are part of Genuino’s larger vision to transform PAGCOR into an internationally visible brand.

‘‘We envision making PAGCOR one of the leading contributors of the Philippine government in terms of employment and poverty alleviation. What I tell my people every day is to visualize PAGCOR as a global corporation with a global mind-set and a Filipino heart, and it will come true,’’ says Genuino.

W0w this is really great im very proud of you Mr. Genuino i'm counting on your brilliant idea on the said project not only for the PAGCOR but for our country! naisip ko na rin eto at tamang tama eto para sa mga surplus nating nurses sana masimulan an eto kaagad! i cant wait this project to be completed! this is the time for us to turned around for success and another breaking the record as 1st Asian retirement country! :dance:

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/june/05/yehey/business/20080605bus12.html

BIZZ FIZZ
By Rene Martel

That’s entertainment plus–Pagcor style!


WHEN Pagcor chairman and CEO Efraim Genuino put it about that he aims to make the Philippines the next “Entertainment Center in Asia,” eyebrows were indeed raised especially since Macau and Singapore appeared to be racing ahead on that front.

The idea may seem too lofty for a country plagued with economic and political woes but, Genuino is more than determined to turn this dream into reality.

This early, supporters of Pagcor’s Tourism City project are seeing more than just a new attraction for tourists. The project also means more revenues for national coffers through the infusion of foreign investment, creation of employment opportunities for Filipinos, and a revitalization of the Philippine tourism industry.

It is indeed a grandiose plan especially if you hear them making comparisons with established entertainment centers like Las Vegas and Macau. The US$15-billion Pagcor project is said to include luxury hotels, museums, theaters, arcades, wellness spas, malls, sports arenas, residential villages, a golf course, a state-of-the-art monorail system, theme parks, and lots of other commercial facilities that will complete an integrated recreation and leisure complex.

That’s not all. It will also include retirement homes and medical facilities, a marina, waste management facilities, and an observation tower.

The projected number of jobs to be generated for this entertainment complex is expected to be more than 250,000. This sounds good for all the waiters, sales people, nurses, caddies, chefs, and all other professionals and skilled workers that the many establishments within the complex will need for full operation. That’s in addition to the engineers, architects, construction workers who will be involved in building the giant complex.

There are currently four major investors eyeing the project. They include Genting Berhad of Malaysia (in a joint venture with Alliance Global Group, Inc.), SM Investments Corp. (in a tie-up with Asia Pacific Gaming Corp. of Australia), Aruze Corp. of Japan, and Bloombury Investments of the British Virgin Islands.

Project proposals have already been submitted by the investors, which include a giant Ferris wheel to be named (like the famed London Eye) as the Manila Eye, a Hollywood-themed amusement park, Star Cruises, and a hotel resort facility.

Prominent government officials and personalities have expressed their support to this project. Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile believes that this project is the answer to Filipino poverty. Along with this line of thought, Parañaque Rep. Eduardo Zialcita and Mayor Jun Bernabe both agree that the employment opportunities presented by this project are tremendous.

On the tourism side, former First Lady Imelda Marcos points out the project’s capacity of creating “a city that will bring joy and beauty to the world.”

It all seems like the Tourism City is indeed the answer to many people’s dreams, however, there are stark social issues that need to be addressed.

But Pagcor already knows this by heart. That is why, for years, it has been extra keen on changing the people’s perception of the state-run gaming firm as a money machine with no conscience to a socially-aware and responsible government institution.

Certainly, its contributions to the upliftment of the lives of the people, particularly in the aspects of health, livelihood, community development, peace and order, among others, cannot be overlooked. And the same can be said of its commitment to promote responsible gaming.

The Philippines has for too long been somewhat fickle with how it wants to achieve the progress it so desires, thereby stunting its own development. But with this project, the Philippines may well experience its most significant turnaround yet.

^^ Exactly the kind of project we need if we want Philippines to attain 1st world status within 20 years. And Genuino's leadership should provide the necessary lift. :) :banana:

When does construction begin though?

Nabasa ko ata sa previous posts e 2009. Then ang operation e late or mid 2010.

Sana dito nila itayo sa BNP-MBT City ang Manila Disneyland or Clark Disneyland or Philippine Disneyland or Disneyworld Manila. Alin sa mga names ang pwede?

:cross-fingers: PLS! Tokyo Disneyland operators!

Pls. inform me kung mali ang post kong to and give me the correct link to the correct thread. Thanks, guys. :)

(Kasi mejo nagloloko yung SSC site dito sa comp ko.)

2009/2010 nga ang start ng construction

First quarter of 2009. Tapos they claimed it will be finished by third or fourth quarter of 2010. Medyo nakakaloko lang kasi ang ikli ng period. Hehe.

Any pictures of updates of the site? Hindi ko kasi makita't walled s'ya. Wala rin naman akong maaninag na construction crane o anumang pasukan ng malalaking truck.

Nabasa ko ata sa previous posts e 2009. Then ang operation e late or mid 2010.

As far as i know the Aruze Corp will start their construction in the 1st quarter of 2009 and it will start its operation by mid in 2010. and this AGI has not yet announce any mechanic since the requirement for the construction still not yet completed. see the previous post.

AGI firm gets gaming license
By Honey Madrilejos-Reyes
BusinessMirror
June 4, 2008

TRAVELLERS International Hotel Group, Inc., a subsidiary of listed Alliance Global Group Inc. (AGI), is inching closer to its plan to build a leisure development on the Manila Bay reclamation site.

This, after the Philippine Amusement Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) issued a provisional gaming license to Travellers.

But there is still no cause for celebration. AGI first vice president Dina Inting said the granting of the license is just one of requirements that Travellers needs to secure from the gaming agency.

AGI, led by property tycoon Andrew Tan, earlier announced that it was in talks with Star Cruises Ltd. for a joint venture to develop a $1-billion integrated leisure and resort within the government-initiated Bagong Nayong Pilipino, which is envisioned to be the country’s version of Las Vegas.

Star Cruises, the world’s third-largest cruise operator and an affiliate of the Malaysian conglomerate Genting Group, is interested to acquire up to 40 percent of Travellers, to serve as its vehicle to participate in the Philippine government’s ambitious plan to put up a multibillion-dollar integrated tourism zone.

Negotiations between AGI and Star Cruises are expected to be finalized next month.

AGI’s plan is to build hotels with over 1,000 rooms spread out over several phases of development.

Bagong Nayong Pilipino will sit on a 40-hectare property in the Manila Bay reclamation area and feature leisure and entertainment facilities including theme park, theaters, amusement and cultural centers, retail and gaming centers and hotels.

Pagcor aims to use the Bagong Nayong Pilipino as a catalyst to sustain the growth of the country’s tourism industry. It hopes to attract at least $4 billion in investments and generate about 100,000 jobs once the entire development is fully completed.

scan the backpages to see the picture of the site @neverwinter

Philippines | WYNN may manage Aruze’s $2.5 billion Manila Bay casino

Quite frankly, I’m shocked that this announcement hasnt made noise yet. I think this is really big news, so heres the scoop…

The Philippines has talked for years about creating “Pagcor City”, a massive casino and entainment district in Manila Bay that could rival the Cotai Strip with the hope of stealing a piece of the gaming pie from Macao. Earlier this month there was a flurry of announcements and news items saying that the Philippines government finally gave the green light for the complex (now called Manila Bay Tourism City). From everything Ive read it sounds like all systems are go.

Aruze, the Japanese company best known as a pachinko and slot machine manufacturer, along with three other applicants were given the nod as the phase I developers of Manila Bay’s Tourism City just a few weeks ago. In Aruze’s recent press release dated April 25, the company provided details that they plan on building a $2.5 billion casino resort on 40 hectares of land that would include a casino hotel, “Manila Eye” ferris wheel, art museum, acquarium, commercial facilities, etc. According to the press release, Aruze expects to get licensed sometime between May and July 2008, with the expectation to commence construction around January 2009 and open its casino around April 2010.

Philippines | WYNN may manage Aruze’s $2.5 billion Manila Bay casino

. . . Aruze expects to get licensed sometime between May and July 2008, with the expectation to commence construction around January 2009 and open its casino around April 2010.

Sounds quick. 2010 is just around the corner and real estate and employment boom should follow. Is Megaworld planning a residential component to this mega project? Any news?

SM has Sea Residences and Federal Land has Palawan, Mactan, and other Bay Towers. I'd like to hear residential dev't.s from Ayala, Cityland, DMCI, etc. as well.

i am not buying that 2010 opening of those hotels. there will always be delays with the constructions just like what happened to MOA's opening. i just hope i'll eat my words soon. :D

i am not buying that 2010 opening of those hotels. there will always be delays with the constructions just like what happened to MOA's opening. i just hope i'll eat my words soon. :D
I am not agree with you, it is depend on the investor capability and i think the Aruze Corp is already had a 2.5 B$ for the project unlike the MOA there a delay of buying materials for the project and also the revenue of the SM groups that time have not enough fund's to fill and support the SM MOA project.

I am not agree with you, it is depend on the investor capability and i think the Aruze Corp is already had a 2.5 B$ for the project unlike the MOA there a delay of buying materials for the project and also the revenue of the SM groups that time have not enough fund's to fill and support the SM MOA project.

well said.

any new pics about this project, meron nabang himalang nangyayari dyan sa area na yan..??:lol:

^^^^

Nangyayri sa site? Well ito lang siguro ang best description na masasabi ko about that. The site looks like COKE...........ZERO.

^^Ang napansin ko lang eh mukhang pineprepare pa nila ung road for the compound...

^Ayun din ang napansin ko.

any latest pics poh about this project, huli na tagala tau sa singapore kc sla lahat ay UC na satin all are still waiting for Approval sa Congreso, am i right?

any latest pics poh about this project, huli na tagala tau sa singapore kc sla lahat ay UC na satin all are still waiting for Approval sa Congreso, am i right?


Hindi :lol: Sa 2009 na makikita ang U/C sa Manila Bay Tourism City.

any latest pics poh about this project, huli na tagala tau sa singapore kc sla lahat ay UC na satin all are still waiting for Approval sa Congreso, am i right?

The Congress has already approved the 25 year extension of Pagcor license. This year, they already had the ground breaking ceremony, well the construction might start later this year or in 2009. (bawal ang text language dito, right, moderator? :) )

^^ Bawal. :D

i am not buying that 2010 opening of those hotels. there will always be delays with the constructions just like what happened to MOA's opening. i just hope i'll eat my words soon. :D

^^ it would be possible, KHI will build raffles with that same time frame as well. it all accounts to their mega-budget..

^^Ang napansin ko lang eh mukhang pineprepare pa nila ung road for the compound...

^^ yesterday, i saw two cranes or it could be a cement factory/sand refinery/whatevs inside the pagcor city property. could those structures have existed for a while now? or could they already be starting work agad? too fast, since no concrete plans/renders were released as of yet..

Maybe they are constructing a batching plant inside para di na sila oorder ng cement, gravel and sand outside during they're project implementations kc very large scale itong project na ito para di masyadong sagabal sa commuters if there is a delivery of cylinder trucks and so forth

Malamang for the preparation eto sa ongoing activity, malay natin last quarter of the year may construction activity na ehh!

Regarding Aruze...Wynn said on his investor conference call that he wont really be involved in this project...Also Bartstrife - your #983 was copied from my website, so you should always give credit where credit is due.

ano bayan pang 1000 post na ako wala paring final update (latest picture's and news about pagcor city...cguro natutulog na ang lahat...hehehe