Thanks higen......Is there any release of the project's timetable for 10 years duration?

^^ and you think that your own version is more grandeur? was that a render of a pre-schooler? your country is very pathetic... philippines belong in africa not asia as all of you are barbaric and money-whore officials.

Anyone as biased and as opinionated as this guy should not be allowed to post here. He doesn't even know what's he's talking about. :bash::bash:

Mods please ban this guy from the Philippine forum and delete all his nasty comments. Thanks!

Kaya nga, ako yung sinabihan niyang ako daw dapat yung ibanned dahil sa mga words ko, how can you calm with this kind of statement, anyway forget it...follow- up ko lang on my previous post, anyone have update on it? thanks....

hmm i also thought the rendering was superb.

^^ and you think that your own version is more grandeur? was that a render of a pre-schooler? your country is very pathetic... philippines belong in africa not asia as all of you are barbaric and money-whore officials.

Think before saying anything:ohno:

i disagree. only the barbaric money-whore officials belong in Africa.
as for you... i don't know if you're love money but you sure are the rest of what you said.

You also don't have the right to call and stereotype Africans:)

ah! that jerk nishikori made me say that!
i really didn't mean it. :lol:

oh i said officials... and that pretty much spells africa.. but still, i apologize despite that.

^^ and you think that your own version is more grandeur? was that a render of a pre-schooler? your country is very pathetic... philippines belong in africa not asia as all of you are barbaric and money-whore officials.

I can feel that you have a bad experience when it comes to our country in particular but it's unfair to generalize your pathetic thoughts and keep insulting forumers here. I also read your post under the Cebu thread and I found your comments not so good and cannot be considered as a form of constructive criticism. If you're a Filipino in disguise to be in Glasgow...then I pity you so much! such a poor guy! loser!

^^ and you think that your own version is more grandeur? was that a render of a pre-schooler? your country is very pathetic... philippines belong in africa not asia as all of you are barbaric and money-whore officials.

Shut up!

WHATEVER MAJOR LOSER!

:down::down::down::down:

:llama::llama::llama::llama:

Kaya nga, ako yung sinabihan niyang ako daw dapat yung ibanned dahil sa mga words ko, how can you calm with this kind of statement, anyway forget it...follow- up ko lang on my previous post, anyone have update on it? thanks....

You are one great SSC Forumer.

Don't mind those troll forumers who are such in envy to our grandiose project.

@ Stanleymalls,
Its flattering, no I am not a great forumers since I cannot divulge very informative post, I am just sharing what idea I can afford anyway thanks, more power to Filipino Forumers especially you stanley, youre agreat contributors in this forum which our country need such idea and mentality, keep it up also. I am really excited about what is going on in our country hope I can contribute in manyways to our development not just by ideas but by actions... I really suggest you guys in metro manila forumers to create an organization representing mm ssc that will recognize your distinctive contribution in our economy and development by the government and private sectors.

@ Stanleymalls,
Its flattering, no I am not a great forumers since I cannot divulge very informative post, I am just sharing what idea I can afford anyway thanks, more power to Filipino Forumers especially you stanley, youre agreat contributors in this forum which our country need such idea and mentality, keep it up also. I am really excited about what is going on in our country hope I can contribute in manyways to our development not just by ideas but by actions... I really suggest you guys in metro manila forumers to create an organization representing mm ssc that will recognize your distinctive contribution in our economy and development by the government and private sectors.

sorry sa sinabi ko kahapon. hehe. actually maganda naman siya para sa madaliang gawa. I didn't mean to insult a pro. i apologize again.

As for this Japanese named pea-brain. hmm. yeah, i agree, don't mind him. sayang ung thread. hehe,. we should be posting ideas here. not your irrational mindset. sayang talaga. everyone hates everyone. everyone discriminates everyone. kaya, hayaan na yun. hehe

dami kong na-miss...:lol:..di pinag-aaksayahan ng panahon yang si...hayy(RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!! :evil:)..di ko mabanggit ang username. kakainin nya ang sinabi nya! :mad2:

pag gawa na ang pagcor city, paluluhurin ko sya sa harap ng pagcor tower!!!!!!!!!!! :lol::lol:..

GANDA ng render nyo Sir Adverg!..keep it up:poke::lol:

alam nyo naman na troll yan sige pa rin kayo sa sa pag-quote sa kanya...

let's all go back to the topic please... enough of the non-sensical trolls...

has the construction started already?

@pulzephaze22
It's okey dont worry that is constructive criticism unlike the other one. Julz, thanks, idea lang naman ito para medyo exciting yung topic sa thread na ito, I know it wont follow coz they have their own design already, but my post was misinterpreted. Everyone once you have idea you can post also para may thrill yung discussion.

...one day you will bow to Philippines.
I like that. Very well said.:gunz:

Well, hopefully it happens in our lifetime...

Never mine, as long there is a will there is a way, there must be one generation to sacrifice......

Well, hopefully it happens in our lifetime...


according to previous post, e ilang years lang ang naman ang target para magawa to. sana na nga matupad at matapos kagad.

Loko yun kumag na yun ahh pati mga africans ehh dinamay! dapat dun itanim sa semento!

now you're cussing the f-bomb. you'll be the one who should be banned! i'll report this to the mods.:nuts:

are you scottish? by any chance?

~~~ dyos ko! indi nyo na dabi pag sapaka ina nga buwang nga ina! wala na pulos! lantawon ta kung intindihan nya ko!! ~~~ let's see if you even undestand illongo~~ :banana:

ang yabang naman niyan, nilalait lait ang pilipinas, hindi daw bagay sa asia.
yung mga nagnanakaw na mga opisyales hindi kaya kumikirot ang puso nila bilang isang pilipino pag nilalait lait ang bansa nila at parang pagkatao mo na ren. hindi siguro, makapal pa mga balat non sa kalabaw.

Yan ang mga Pinoy solid tayo diba, Ipaglaban natin ang kagitingan ng bansang Pilipinas at mga Pilipino.Kung ganito tayong lahat, siguro we are better than China or Korea right now.

Entertainment city Manila naman ang name nito ngayon..

PAGCOR’S entertainment project will be built in Paranaque City

By Lynda B. Valencia

MANILA, Oct. 31 (PNA) - Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation’s (PAGCOR’s) biggest tourism and entertainment project, dubbed as Entertainment City Manila, will be constructed in Paranaque City.

Paranaque City Mayor Florencio Bernabe signed recently Resolution 188 to endorse PAGCOR's project.

With the resolution drafted by the Paraňaque City council, PAGCOR’s project will be accorded the benefits available under Republic Act No. 7916, otherwise known as the Economic Zone Act of 1995.

Under this agreement, PAGCOR’s multi-billion project will occupy some 150 hectares of land along Paraňaque City’s reclamation area to beef up the country’s entertainment and tourism potential.

The project will also be hailed as a special investment district, which will provide project locators with economic incentives such as tax holidays.

Also, the local government was given an assurance that 40 percent of the Entertainment City Manila’s workforce will be residents of Paraňaque City.

On the other hand, PAGCOR’s President and Chief Operating Officer (CEO) Rafael Francisco, said that once built, Entertainment City Manila can be a good source of revenue for the government.

"On the employment aspect alone, the project is expected to generate as much as 450,000 jobs for Filipinos. This excludes the jobs that may be generated while the construction of the Entertainment City is on-going," Francisco said.

He added, “Apart from the huge employment opportunity that the project may generate, we hope to create more than 7,000 rooms for local and foreign tourists in the next five years. With improved amenities and infrastructure, our country can accommodate more tourists and eventually welcome bigger inflow of investments.”

Meanwhile, Bernabe expressed his enthusiasm on the project due to the employment opportunities available for his constituents.

“With the ongoing economic crises anywhere in the world, it is so hard to be unemployed. We have to create more jobs for the Filipinos and try to be open to the opportunities that come our way,” he said.

Recently, PAGCOR has just granted license to two of its four major investors in the Entertainment City Project.

The Japan-based Aruze Corporation, leading manufacturer of gaming machines worldwide and co-investor in the Wynn’s chain of casino hotel in Las Vegas and Macau, had just complied with the requirements set by PAGCOR and the Philippine government.

Also, the first investor in the Entertainment City project that was granted a license was Star Cruises, a subsidiary of Malaysia’s Genting Berhad Group and Alliance Global Incorporated. (PNA)

^^nice...Ang tagal naman nila maglabas ng render:lol: Sana maraming iconic structures akong makita sa proposal..:okay:

may updates ba tungkol sa SM Bay City? target ng hotels nila 2010 diba? kelangan na nilang simulan yun ngayon.

The only published investors are these two Aruze and Alliance Global... What happened to the other two possible investors SM and what's the other one?

the one involving James Packer backed out. in fairness to SM, their Mall is a tourist destination itself many foreigners strolling. they just need to build the hotels and casinos. pati na rin yung SM Arena.

^^nice...Ang tagal naman nila maglabas ng render:lol: Sana maraming iconic structures akong makita sa proposal..:okay:

:lol: oo nga! sana kahit yung temporary renderings lang! :lol: para may idea naman tayo on how the entire complex is gonna come up! they can still do better things with it anyway! so kahit medyo matagal, it's okay, we'll just have to wait! :lol:

Man, were already in thread 2, still no renderings and they are suppose to start construction next year.

any updates?:nuts:

As far as i know they will published their rendering by this December bago nila umpisahan sa 1st Qrt ng 2009. lalo na may balita na madedelay yung construction ng Universal Studio sa Singgapore dahil affected sila ng Crisis.

@Packer Investment
So may Credit Crunch kasi di sila makautang pang invest para dito $B ang kelangan nila kaya postpone muna sila once na maka recover na ang Global economy possible na magiinvest sya dito dahil plano niyang mag tayo ng Casino Empire sa Asia kasama na ang Pilipinas dito.

@SM Investment
Tama yung sinabi ni Rush SM is already Tourism Park ang Plano na lang naman nila ehh Itayo yung Casino Royale At nagfofocus muna sila sa Hotel tulad ng Sea Residences pang accommodate sa pagdagsa ng turista. madali naman gawin siguro yung building pede naman round d' clock pedeng matapos for one year construction tulad nung sa aruze at sa genting 1st Phase pa lang yun.

naku ksp lang yan wag nyo nang patulan basta maganda ang project na ito para sa mga pinoy hehehhe

di bale, pag presidente na si Obama, aaus na ang mundo:lol: Being optimistic, siguro kaya inabot ng December ang render dahil super pinagisipan at pinaghirapan:banana:

sana please wala akong makitang billboards at mmda overpasses sa Entertainment City Manila in the future...:lol::lol:..kayu ano pa po ang ayaw nyong makita sa ECM in the future? :|:|

sana mag-invest din Ayala sa area na to. kahit may ka-partner na foreign company o sila lang. They can build another gigantic mall near MOA. (ala Trinoma-Sm north competition part 2). kAsi kahit napakalaki ng Moa, super over crowded pa din. Lalo na siguro kapag natayo na yung PAgcor city, e ngayon pa lang umaabot na sa milyon yung pumupunta sa MOA hindi na maacomodate yung mga turista.

sana please wala akong makitang billboards at mmda overpasses sa Entertainment City Manila in the future...:lol::lol:..kayu ano pa po ang ayaw nyong makita sa ECM in the future? :|:|

Sana walang mga pulubi at mga batang kalye na pakalat-kalat. hindi naman sa dinedeprive sila makita mga sights dito pero they scare tourists lalo na yung makukulit. At huwag naman sana silang patulugin sa mga parks inside pagcor city. no!!!

Malamang nasa Thread 3 na tayu pag nag uumpisa na yung project's

In a few months, construction will start! Woooo

Sana walang mga pulubi at mga batang kalye na pakalat-kalat. hindi naman sa dinedeprive sila makita mga sights dito pero they scare tourists lalo na yung makukulit. At huwag naman sana silang patulugin sa mga parks inside pagcor city. no!!!


:lol: OO nga! gusto ko talaga at dapat talagang mangyari yan! i agree some tourist might find beggars cute no? they take pictures ang spoil thme with lots o bread! pero personally, naku! nakakatakot talaga sila! actually, baka naaawa lang ako, i just said nakakatakot! pero anywa, they deserve at least a home,(kahit bahay kubo nalang) food, clothes, and education! kathit sa malayong provinces nalang!:cheers: yup! i think paparating na ung thread 3 soon! :lol:

pero sana bago tayo mapunta sa thread 3 eh makita na natin ang render ng Tourism City..hahaha...inip n ko!!:nuts:

Thus anyone have direct access to this project? thanks...

sana mag-invest din Ayala sa area na to. kahit may ka-partner na foreign company o sila lang. They can build another gigantic mall near MOA. (ala Trinoma-Sm north competition part 2). kAsi kahit napakalaki ng Moa, super over crowded pa din. Lalo na siguro kapag natayo na yung PAgcor city, e ngayon pa lang umaabot na sa milyon yung pumupunta sa MOA hindi na maacomodate yung mga turista.

hmm i think gumawa na lang sila ng bagong E-city sa BGC. para may rivalry sila. hehe.. i mean, maghanap din sila ng investors para sa project na ganun. or ibang concept naman para kahit saan magpunta mga turista, enjoy pa rin. oh di kaya, gawin nilang Educational City(E-city pa rin, lol) to attract tourist with academic intention. parang educational haven for foriegn and local students. watya think? haha.

^^ i think ALI should not invest in the place.. they have a bigger project to fund which is NUVALI.. but imho, they must only buy lots for their future residential enclaves near the aseana business park and e-city..

another serendra type project i suppose, but better..

^^ i think ALI should not invest in the place.. they have a bigger project to fund which is NUVALI.. but imho, they must only buy lots for their future residential enclaves near the aseana business park and e-city..

another serendra type project i suppose, but better..

I hope you can convince your superiors about building Ayala residential enclaves here. Such Serendra-type project will surely click. :)

As far as i know they will published their rendering by this December bago nila umpisahan sa 1st Qrt ng 2009. lalo na may balita na madedelay yung construction ng Universal Studio sa Singgapore dahil affected sila ng Crisis.

@Packer Investment
So may Credit Crunch kasi di sila makautang pang invest para dito $B ang kelangan nila kaya postpone muna sila once na maka recover na ang Global economy possible na magiinvest sya dito dahil plano niyang mag tayo ng Casino Empire sa Asia kasama na ang Pilipinas dito.

@SM Investment
Tama yung sinabi ni Rush SM is already Tourism Park ang Plano na lang naman nila ehh Itayo yung Casino Royale At nagfofocus muna sila sa Hotel tulad ng Sea Residences pang accommodate sa pagdagsa ng turista. madali naman gawin siguro yung building pede naman round d' clock pedeng matapos for one year construction tulad nung sa aruze at sa genting 1st Phase pa lang yun.

ANG SAYA! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

the one involving James Packer backed out. in fairness to SM, their Mall is a tourist destination itself many foreigners strolling. they just need to build the hotels and casinos. pati na rin yung SM Arena.

True. Para hindi na magbibiyahe pa from Makati or Manila.

Pero sana i-refurbish nila or dagdagan ng colors ang cladding ng MoA, para refeshing sa mata. Kahit sabihin nating maganda na ang MoA, nakakasawa na yung mga blue cones at yung white cladding na ang bilis madumihan...

@ Stanleymalls,
Its flattering, no I am not a great forumers since I cannot divulge very informative post, I am just sharing what idea I can afford anyway thanks, more power to Filipino Forumers especially you stanley, youre agreat contributors in this forum which our country need such idea and mentality, keep it up also. I am really excited about what is going on in our country hope I can contribute in manyways to our development not just by ideas but by actions... I really suggest you guys in metro manila forumers to create an organization representing mm ssc that will recognize your distinctive contribution in our economy and development by the government and private sectors.

Thank you po, Mr. Adverg! :D :D :D :D

@ Stanleymalls,
It's okey youre welcome, wag mo na lang akong popoohin bata pa naman ako di pa ako matanda, hehhehe.........well, sign of respect thank you.
Follow-up again, anyone have the complete recent render or masterplan of this mega project, thanks..

just saw the BNP project ad on CNN. great timing, since people are tuning in to reports on obama's win.

anung oras m napanood yung BNP ad s CNN....

Ayus ba ung commercial? Di ko talaga matsempuhan eh.:lol:

just saw the BNP project ad on CNN. great timing, since people are tuning in to reports on obama's win.

Ows? Talaga! SOSYAL! :applause: :applause:

just saw the BNP project ad on CNN. great timing, since people are tuning in to reports on obama's win.

i dont find it convincing though. the whole ad looks cheap compared to other multi-billion projects ads thats being shown in the said channel. if they really want to lure more investors, they should start by making the ad flashier and futuristic to make it believable.

I saw the Pagcor Ad last night in CNN, around 8:10 PM. It was pretty good, convincing and the tower looks tall. Some portion of Makati, Roxas Boulevard were shown.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YOwVHbpaWI8/SOVpUv8k0eI/AAAAAAAABDs/bPJJzL8KJbw/s400/pagcor+tower.jpg

^^post nyo naman dito sa thread, di ko kasi naabutan eh,:nuts:

pa-post naman ng pagcor ad...

Question, Nagstart na ba ang construction ng Tourism City na to???

^^post nyo naman dito sa thread, di ko kasi naabutan eh,:nuts:

pa-post naman ng pagcor ad...

Sorry, di kasi naka record eh....I just saw it sa CNN.

Question, Nagstart na ba ang construction ng Tourism City na to???

sa first quarter ng 2009 pa magstastart..:)

i dont find it convincing though. the whole ad looks cheap compared to other multi-billion projects ads thats being shown in the said channel. if they really want to lure more investors, they should start by making the ad flashier and futuristic to make it believable.

don't worry, they're not trying to convince you :cheers:

i dont find it convincing though. the whole ad looks cheap compared to other multi-billion projects ads thats being shown in the said channel. if they really want to lure more investors, they should start by making the ad flashier and futuristic to make it believable.

CHEAP? Siguro naman e nilagyan na yan ng effort para mapaganda.

Kung gagawin nating futuristic at flashy, e baka mas mag-expect pa sila ng mas matindi sa atin.

Making it more believable means making it in 3D and in all effects!

Some PIctures of Pagcor project

http://www.pagcor.ph/simplegallery/images/abt-head-6.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/about-pagcor/ground-breaking-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/about-pagcor/ceo-gem-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/business-conference-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/ceo-senator-gordon-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/proposed-waterfront-head.jpg

don't worry, they're not trying to convince you :cheers:

and im not trying to convince you, either. :)

CHEAP? Siguro naman e nilagyan na yan ng effort para mapaganda.

Kung gagawin nating futuristic at flashy, e baka mas mag-expect pa sila ng mas matindi sa atin.

Making it more believable means making it in 3D and in all effects!

oh, what i meant by flashier is that to put more impact on the viewers/future investors like the wow philippines ad campaign, its simple yet effective and enticing.
if they really want this project to be a success, they should be gambling a ton of money to come up with an effective ad for a multi-billion dollar project, imho.

nice pix MR Zukichiro! kala ko nung una talaga yun na yung latest pics for the render! excited ako iscroll down(dahandahan:lol:)..pero aus lng! arigato!:lol:

may color scheme ba ang Pagcor City? green ata eh..haha

i have very high hopes for this project sana matuloy,, concern ko lang ung design ng pagcor tower, very filipino ang design inspired kuno ng bamboo plant pero i hope they could make it more iconic looking i.e. guangzhou tv tower..

I like the last picture, this building design is more interesting, but I am still looking forward to see, the totality of design with the complete model. Because at this time, it seem what is published and posted in this forum create confusion what is the exact image of this project, kaya even it create trolls with my posted ideas, I just share my own.

I hope this project is not in metro manila rather in a more exclusive or remote area. Just like las vegas its in the middle of the deserts of nevada. What I am trying to say metro manila is already crowded. This would just add up to the congestion.

iniisip ko kung maglagay kaya sila ng wind mills by the bay.:lol:..saka puro e-jeepneys ang papasada sa Pagcor City ..hehe..earth friendly:)

^^ hindi consistent ang hangin sa manila bay kaya hindi rin effective ang wind mill. kung solar panel ang windows ng mga bulding pwedeng -pwede.

ang pangit talaga ng observation tower sa picture... sana palitan nila ang design. parang control tower lang sya ng NAIA.

^^ True! Yung ala-Space needle daw na design ng tower yata ang susundin.

Anyways, na-intriga talaga ako dun sa last pic ni @Zukichiro.

Yan, yan dapat. Ang mga designs na pang agaw-pansin, nakaw-tingin!

Dapat ÜBER Modern yet it speaks Filipino Ingenuity.

@Zukichiro: ขอบคุณคำ!

GO GO GO PAGCOR TOWER! :applause:

GO GO GO BNP-MBTC! :applause:

kung tatayuan talaga to ng monorail hindi ba dapat isabay na yun sa construction ng mga facilities?

we could all email pagcor to redesign the tower... i prefer this render. it looks neat and refreshing.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5333/scanqr3.jpg

Mas maganda pa rin ata ang latest design maybe because ni redesign para sa stability. Yung lupa kasi na pag tatayuan eh reclaimed area lang and Manila is a well known soft land in engineers. So both combine malambot tlga ang lupa na pagtatayuan ng Tower.

If you will see how Petronas have been made they've put up pylons which is very long considering petronas is in the middle of the land. Our tower being constructed stands taller than petronas and stands more in a shaky land. Sorry, Engineers can elaborate more about how pylons are applied...:)

Here's an update on our SouthEastAsian competitor... interesting turn of events...

Las Vegas Sands seeks capital in Asia
By Assif Shameen in Singapore

Published: November 7 2008 11:11 | Last updated: November 7 2008 19:53

Sheldon Adelson, Las Vegas Sands chairman, recently met Singapore government officials concerned about completion of the company’s resort project in the city-state, according to people familiar with the discussions.

The talks centred on restructuring and refinancing of the Marina Bay Sands, the first of two casino projects currently under construction in Singapore.
Las Vegas Sands is trying to raise more than US$2bn to fund projects in Singapore, Macao and the US. Last month it raised $475m in convertible senior stock notes from Mr Adelson and his family.

In a regulatory filing on Thursday, the casino operators warned that its ability to operate as a going concern could be in doubt if it did not increase earnings or raise more capital. The filing added: “If the company is not able to obtain the requisite financing, or the terms are not as favourable as it anticipates, the company may be required to slow or suspend its global development activities.”
Las Vegas Sands has built the world’s two largest casinos in Macao, which opened its market to overseas investors in 2002.

Mr Adelson has been the most aggressive entrant into the Chinese special administrative region, the world’s biggest gaming market. The company secured a coveted concession in Singapore.

Mr Adelson and other top Las Vegas Sands officials have met bankers in Singapore and Hong Kong in recent weeks to raise new funds. Discussions have included an array of financing instruments including convertible bonds and syndicated loans. A Las Vegas Sands spokesman could not be reached for comment on Friday.

“Marina Bay Sands is a showcase project for the city-state,” said Ng Wee Siang, analyst at brokerage Westcomb. “It is highly likely that the government will step in if financing becomes a problem.”
The $4.2bn Marina Bay Sands resort, which will include 2,500 hotel rooms and more than 2m sq ft of convention and retail space, is supposed to open by December 2009. Bankers say Las Vegas Sands needs to raise up to $450m to meet additional funding requirements in Singapore.

Late last year Las Vegas Sands raised S$5.3bn ($3.54bn) through a syndicated loan arranged by Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Lehman Brothers.

Three local banks – DBS, United Overseas Bank and OCBC – have the biggest exposure to Marina Bay Sands project with a total of S$2.2bn. Shares of the trio have fallen in recent weeks.

“Global financial centres have been major conduits of debt and equity capital to Asia’s growing casino industry over the last five years and it appears this conduit is severely restricted due to the global economic situation,” said Jonathan Galaviz, an analyst at Las Vegas-based gaming and tourism consultancy Globalysis.

Mr Galaviz expects Marina Bay Sands to open sometime in 2010, but believes it could struggle in the face of a global slowdown, and competition with Macao casinos.
Additional reporting by Justine Lau and Tom Mitchell in Hong Kong
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/41a8dbb6-acbb-11dd-971e-000077b07658.html

^Do you need to show that article here? it's super off topic..

whoopsy just thougth this might give us some perspective, a view of the bigger picture. Peace man.

dito na lang kasi sila sa PILIPINAS! yahooo!!:banana:..

I saw the Pagcor Ad last night in CNN, around 8:10 PM. It was pretty good, convincing and the tower looks tall. Some portion of Makati, Roxas Boulevard were shown.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YOwVHbpaWI8/SOVpUv8k0eI/AAAAAAAABDs/bPJJzL8KJbw/s400/pagcor+tower.jpg

wow, exciting...sana matuloy nga yan...looks very futuristic at world class yung design

we could all email pagcor to redesign the tower... i prefer this render. it looks neat and refreshing.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5333/scanqr3.jpg

maganda nga yang design...mas maraming pwedeng gawing negosyo kung ikumpara sa KL Tower...revolving retaurant at observation deck lang...

^Do you need to show that article here? it's super off topic..

It's not off topic. The Vegas interests in Singapore was just a very clear sign that they are threatened about the construction here!!!!:banana:

As we know there are no US investors in this construction of our casino. So that's why they need to increase it and match our casino standards..:cheers:

Catch us Sinagpore!:cheers:

Here's the latest from Manila Standard...

Manila Bay casino city to proceed
By Roderick T. dela Cruz

STATE-RUN gambling firm Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. said construction of its $10-billion Entertainment City on Manila Bay will start in the first quarter next year—and despite the financial crisis that has delayed a number of casino projects in Asia.

The complex would allow Pagcor to more than double its income to about $1.3 billion by 2012, a company official said.

“We see no problems hampering construction,” the official said.

“As far as we can see, our project is not affected by the financial crisis.”

Pagcor recently released the terms of reference for the 85-hectare Bagong Nayong Pilipino Entertainment City, in which each investor is required to put in at least $1 billion.

The complex will be built on reclaimed land, and it will include hotels, convention centers, theaters, sports stadiums, restaurants, shopping centers, cultural complexes, museums and amusement parks.

Pagcor said earlier it had secured commitments from investors such as the Genting Berhad Group and Star Cruises of Malaysia, Alliance Global Inc. of the Philippines, the Aruze Group of Japan, and Bloomburry Investments of Australia.

The company said no prospective investors were pulling out of the project despite the financial crunch.

“In fact, SM Investments Corp. is in the process of completing the requirements asked by Pagcor of investors in the project,” the official said.

“SM is also in talks with various foreign groups such as MGM Resorts for possible tie-ups.”

The official said unaudited figures showed that Pagcor’s income rose 11.6 percent to P14.85 billion in the first half of 2008 from P13.30 billion in the same period last year.

He said growth continued to the second half of the year, though figures were not yet available.

“October was a record-breaking month,” he said.

“We gained our second highest monthly income in the history of Pagcor that month.”

The official cited a study by the accounting firm Price Waterhouse Coopers saying Pagcor’s revenues would increase at the compound rate of 17.8 percent until 2012.

“Revenues will increase from $577 million in 2007 to a projected $1.3 billion in 2012,” the official said.

Still, a big casino operator being wooed by Pagcor is facing bankruptcy.

Las Vegas Sands Corp., which operates casinos in Las Vegas, Macau and Singapore, has hinted that it may default on its $8.8-billion debt.

Casino revenues in Las Vegas and Atlantic City have gone down this year as a result of the financial crisis, which has prevented Americans from spending on non-essentials.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news3_nov10_2008

I think they can nail the piles up to sea bed and connect to the matt footing of the tower, is this the theory for this tower structural consideration?

went back down to $10 billion.

I think they can nail the piles up to sea bed and connect to the matt footing of the tower, is this the theory for this tower structural consideration?

They should situate the tower on what should be the world's deepest foundations, deeper than that of the Petronas Towers in KL.

Here's the latest from Manila Standard...

Manila Bay casino city to proceed
By Roderick T. dela Cruz

STATE-RUN gambling firm Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. said construction of its $10-billion Entertainment City on Manila Bay will start in the first quarter next year—and despite the financial crisis that has delayed a number of casino projects in Asia.

The complex would allow Pagcor to more than double its income to about $1.3 billion by 2012, a company official said.

“We see no problems hampering construction,” the official said.

“As far as we can see, our project is not affected by the financial crisis.”

Pagcor recently released the terms of reference for the 85-hectare Bagong Nayong Pilipino Entertainment City, in which each investor is required to put in at least $1 billion.

The complex will be built on reclaimed land, and it will include hotels, convention centers, theaters, sports stadiums, restaurants, shopping centers, cultural complexes, museums and amusement parks.

Pagcor said earlier it had secured commitments from investors such as the Genting Berhad Group and Star Cruises of Malaysia, Alliance Global Inc. of the Philippines, the Aruze Group of Japan, and Bloomburry Investments of Australia.

The company said no prospective investors were pulling out of the project despite the financial crunch.

“In fact, SM Investments Corp. is in the process of completing the requirements asked by Pagcor of investors in the project,” the official said.

“SM is also in talks with various foreign groups such as MGM Resorts for possible tie-ups.”

The official said unaudited figures showed that Pagcor’s income rose 11.6 percent to P14.85 billion in the first half of 2008 from P13.30 billion in the same period last year.

He said growth continued to the second half of the year, though figures were not yet available.

“October was a record-breaking month,” he said.

“We gained our second highest monthly income in the history of Pagcor that month.”

The official cited a study by the accounting firm Price Waterhouse Coopers saying Pagcor’s revenues would increase at the compound rate of 17.8 percent until 2012.

“Revenues will increase from $577 million in 2007 to a projected $1.3 billion in 2012,” the official said.

Still, a big casino operator being wooed by Pagcor is facing bankruptcy.

Las Vegas Sands Corp., which operates casinos in Las Vegas, Macau and Singapore, has hinted that it may default on its $8.8-billion debt.

Casino revenues in Las Vegas and Atlantic City have gone down this year as a result of the financial crisis, which has prevented Americans from spending on non-essentials.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news3_nov10_2008

Yehey! ÜBER Excited na! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Kagabi nag ferry ako pauwing Cavite at akala ko maliit lang yung pagcor site pero ng malayo layo na kami from the shore ay naku ang lawak pala at ang ganda ng magiging view nito par totally erected na yung mga tower at building! ang ganda ng view dameng mga high rise tower sa background!

sana di maging katulad ng nasa logo ng Pagcor City ang tower..
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/juliusat_17/pagcorcity.jpg:lol:

pero kung desperado talaga silang maiba ang design ng tower, eh sundin nila sa logo yung mga ala-ahas thingy na umiikot sa tower:nuts::nuts: panu kaya yun??:lol:

and im not trying to convince you, either. :)



oh, what i meant by flashier is that to put more impact on the viewers/future investors like the wow philippines ad campaign, its simple yet effective and enticing.
if they really want this project to be a success, they should be gambling a ton of money to come up with an effective ad for a multi-billion dollar project, imho.

but they won't invest based on an ad. of course, they will conduct expensive feasibility studies to determine if they should invest or not. rest assure, the ad will not kill the project. :cheers:

This had been studied and proposed by financial consultants before this project went into confirmation. Theres a lot of debate in terms of asset analysis & in terms of forcasting how this project will gain and not result backcruptcy at the end. But despite this assessment, it's just an assessment, loopholes may still coming in but I know contingency plan was set-up already. I had one local friend here doing this financial consultations and he show me how this things was tabled from pre-development cost, to operation until returns of capital and profit earnings. Let's hope the outcome of this project would turn into positive. Well anyway, Filipinos are very appreciative and since we are socialite upscale, there is no problem in promoting this business.

HI Stanley, if you dont mind, can you ellaborate on this theory, thanks...

well all I can say is that I hope this is tuloy

I dont think malulugi to. kahit hindi ganoon karaming foreign tourists, Filipinos will fill this up.
Just look at MOA, almost 1 million visitors on weekends! huwag mo rin i look down ang purchasing power ng pinoy, kahit anong mangyari, pag-iipunan talaga nila para makapunta dito. Yung Ocean Park nga, ang daming willing magbayad ng 400 pesos para sa ganoon kaliit na attraction. Yung Enchanted Kingdom, ang layo pero dinadayo pa din at grabe ang siksikan sa Embassy at Fiamma bar kahit 500 pesos ang entrance. Entrance pa lang yun, kung kasama pagkain at inom, expect to pay 1-2k each. anyway, my point is, importante sa kultura ng pinoy ang pamamasyal, whether with family or friends. kaya hindi malulugi yung mga ganitong klaseng attraction.

^i agree

^^ kasi madali kasi ispind ang pira na galing sa ofw, hindi talaga malulugi iyan.

SM sets up unit to handle leases to gambling
DON GIL K. CARREON, BusinessWorld
11/12/2008 | 03:33 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Sy-led SM Commercial Properties, Inc. has set up a new unit that will handle the development of real estate that will be leased to a gambling company.

The Securities and Exchange Commission approved the incorporation of the new company called Premiumleisure and Amusement, Inc. SM Commercial Properties subscribed to and paid for almost a fourth of Premiumleisure’s P5-million capital stock, documents from the corporate regulator showed.

In a telephone interview, Corazon P. Guidote, vice-president for investor relations of listed holding company SM Investments Corp., clarified that Premium leisure’s establishment does not signal the SM Group’s entry into gaming operations.

"SM would not be in the gaming business. The new company will basically handle the development of property that would be leased to a gaming operator," she said.

Ms. Guidote said the project would be built at the SM Mall of Asia complex in Pasay City, adding that they were in talks with foreign casino operators. She declined to provide more details.

"It’s hard to give specifics since the negotiations are still not final," she said, adding that the SM group was still waiting for a provisional license from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) to build a casino.

The SM group earlier said it would participate in the development of a multibillion-dollar leisure and casino complex at the 90-hectare Manila Bay reclamation area.

Pagcor said companies must invest at least $1 billion, 40% of which must come within the first two years, to qualify for a permit.

So far, only Travelers International, Inc., a joint venture between Andrew Tan-led Alliance Global Group, Inc. and Hong-kong-listed Star Cruises Ltd., has been given a provisional license by Pagcor. Travelers has pledged to invest $1.1 billion in the Manila Bay area.

The state gambling corporation expects the gambling complex to generate $15 billion in investments, create up to 250,000 million jobs and boost foreign tourist arrivals by one million.

Asked whether the SM Group, known more for its mall projects, will make property development for gambling firms a permanent part of its operations, Ms. Guidote said this would depend on future opportunities.

Ramon Jose E. Aguirre, an analyst from property advisory firm Colliers International, said realty developers will profit from gaming-related projects especially with foreign partners backing them up.

In a phone interview, he said these projects could increase in the next few years, but local firms may adopt a wait-and-see approach for the moment given tight credit conditions.

I dont think malulugi to. kahit hindi ganoon karaming foreign tourists, Filipinos will fill this up.


Yup we have enough big time gamblers, the likes of those who are willing to lose millions on a Pacquiao bet...

^^So kung ganun ang mangyayari mawawala na ang mga manukan na maiingay kasi sa casino na sila pupunta.Mabuti nmn!

Ang masama baka dalhin yung cock fight sa casino..hehe

ang malulugi pala e Araneta kasi mababawasan ang booking ng coliseum! ha ha!

diba may plano din mag-tayo ng racetrack dito? malulugi panigurado yung sta.ana race track. pero sana hwag naman sa loob mismo ng entertainment city because it will take so much space. sana somewhere nearer. tapos provide shuttle buses na lang from pagcor city to the race track for the tourists and gamblers.

^^iba nmn un F1(formula 1) ung track na yun..haha

nope! kasama talaga yung horse race track dito. try mo mag back-read!

pero siguro sa phase 3 pa yun. kapag nkapag-reclaim pa ng mas maraming lupa. target nila diba 800 hectares.

cockfight and other local faves like mahjong, sakla, and even perya games "must" be included. this will be something new to foreigners who are willing to try different forms of gambling. and of course sure fire hit ito sa mga pinoy.

i hate to be pessimistic pero napanood ko sa ANC saka sa bloomburg na may nakaambang economic recession sa RP sa 2009. hindi kaya maapektuhan tong project na to?

^Hindi naman siguro maapektuhan. Ang mga investors dito sa project na ito ay hindi naman nakikitaan ng pagbagsak bagkos pa nga ay lumakas pa.

that economic recession is just based on businessmen's (makati business club) perception on 2009. i've heard this kind of prediction before but as long as that recession is not being felt then there should be no worries.

cockfight and other local faves like mahjong, sakla, and even perya games "must" be included. this will be something new to foreigners who are willing to try different forms of gambling. and of course sure fire hit ito sa mga pinoy.

tapos itabi to sa ferris wheel ng Aruze para perya talaga yung dating!

tapos itabi to sa ferris wheel ng Aruze para perya talaga yung dating!

:lol:^^:lol:Hey! why not include freak shows!:lol: peryang perya na talaga! and we can call it~Pagcor city Perya!:lol:

I dont think malulugi to. kahit hindi ganoon karaming foreign tourists, Filipinos will fill this up.
Just look at MOA, almost 1 million visitors on weekends! huwag mo rin i look down ang purchasing power ng pinoy, kahit anong mangyari, pag-iipunan talaga nila para makapunta dito. Yung Ocean Park nga, ang daming willing magbayad ng 400 pesos para sa ganoon kaliit na attraction. Yung Enchanted Kingdom, ang layo pero dinadayo pa din at grabe ang siksikan sa Embassy at Fiamma bar kahit 500 pesos ang entrance. Entrance pa lang yun, kung kasama pagkain at inom, expect to pay 1-2k each. anyway, my point is, importante sa kultura ng pinoy ang pamamasyal, whether with family or friends. kaya hindi malulugi yung mga ganitong klaseng attraction.

Very true. In addition, look at the restaurants, they are still full, sometimes you have to queue just to get a seat.

Just to quote lang an article from Tony Lopez:

"In October this year, the IMF classified the Philippines as a newly industrialized country with estimated its nominal GDP per capita at $1,908".

"This year, the 10 million overseas Filipino workers will remit $18 billion. That’s an average remittance of $1,800 per worker. Divide that by 5.5—the average of Filipino family size and you get $327.27 additional per capita income. Add that to the domestic $1,620 per capita income and you get a per capita income figure closer to $2,000. In other words, one can conclude that 10 million households (multiply by number of persons in one household) —two of every three—are middle class"

that economic recession is just based on businessmen's (makati business club) perception on 2009. i've heard this kind of prediction before but as long as that recession is not being felt then there should be no worries.

FYI, Recession means two consecutive quarters of negative growth.

The Philippines is not in danger of falling into a recession. In fact, it is the only country in Southeast Asia that has so far escaped the harsh impact of the global financial turmoil, European banking giant Deutsche Bank said Wednesday. In an equity research note, the German bank said the Association of Southeast Asian Nations as a bloc was far more resilient today than during the Asian crisis of the late 1990s, when the sharp economic slowdown and unprecedented currency devaluation triggered a wave of corporate defaults that in turn soured banks' assets.

^^ yun nga rin pinagtataka ko eh,. sabi ng NEDA, ang GDP growth natin this 2008 is 4.5%. tapos bababa daw ng 4% next year. Ang sabi naman ng World Bank eh 3% for 2009 ang forecast nila. San naman nakuha ng Makati Business Club yung forecast nilang recession sa 2009? kasi 9 out of 10 sa members nila ang sumang-ayon dun eh. sabi naman ng local and foreign investors, masyado namang negatibo yung ganung forecast. Sana lang hindi maapektohan tong project na to. :ohno:

:lol:^^:lol:Hey! why not include freak shows!:lol: peryang perya na talaga! and we can call it~Pagcor city Perya!:lol:

why not?!? we can't just follow what vegas and macau did. we have to be open with other gambling games. perya games would be fun and affordable for those small time / occassional gamblers.

why not?!? we can't just follow what vegas and macau did. we have to be open with other gambling games. perya games would be fun and affordable for those small time / occassional gamblers.

If you go to Circus Circus, they do have perya games, yes even in Vegas and Reno, they have games where you win stuffed toys, candies, and other goodies, for kids and othe rpeople who just wants to have fun. Basically, it'll be just like Star City.

Again for the bigger picture, It is very likely that many of our kababayans are among those who are about to lose their jobs. This development could in some way benefit either Manila Bay or Marina Bay in terms of reduced competition from Macau, here's hoping the Pagcor City gets built soon to absorb our balikbayans...

Up to 11,000 workers to lose casino jobs in

MACAU, China (AP) -- As many as 11,000 workers in Macau will lose their jobs after a cash crunch forced struggling casino operator Las Vegas Sands Corp. to halt construction on multibillion dollar projects in the Chinese gambling city, company officials said.

Ron Reese, a Sands spokesman in Las Vegas, said the workers were largely employed by contractors and subcontractors. About 2,000 are from Macau, the rest from Hong Kong, mainland China and other countries, said Stephen Weaver, Sands' president for Asia.

Sands will give preference to Macau workers and pay them as it assesses whether they can be relocated to other Sands' projects, though they likely will lose their jobs, Weaver said.

"Regrettably there will be people from Macau in the construction areas that we cannot continue to employ," Weaver told reporters at the company's Venetian resort in Macau.

Macau has overtaken the Las Vegas Strip as the world's biggest gambling center, and American companies have been investing heavily in the former Portuguese colony on China's southern coast.

On Monday, Sands said it was suspending several projects in Macau, mainland China and Las Vegas and part of a project in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. And it said it had agreements to raise $2.14 billion in new capital, including new funding from its billionaire chief executive, Sheldon Adelson.

To be suspended in Macau are a Shangri-La/Traders hotel tower, a Sheraton hotel tower and three casinos at two sites on the Cotai Strip. Another project in the early stages on Hengqin Island nearby has been indefinitely suspended, the company said.

The announcement came amid worse-than-expected results for the third quarter and after Sands said last week that it was in danger of breaching lending conditions on December 31 and defaulting on $5.2 billion in credit facilities secured by its Las Vegas operations.

In a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on Monday, Sands said its board has formed a committee to evaluate the company's decision-making and resolve disputes between Adelson and other senior managers.

The committee has the power to resolve disagreements among management -- even between board meetings -- and was created to address "a loss of confidence" by managers in how the company is being run, according to the filing.

Sands said Adelson and other senior managers -- including chief operating officer William Weidner, executive vice president Bradley Stone and senior vice president Robert Goldstein -- suggested the committee.

"It is only prudent to have the board work in closer consultation with senior management," Reese said, declining to comment further.

The company said it was suspending construction on the hotel, retail and event center portions of its $600 million project in Pennsylvania but will continue building the casino, its parking garage and some restaurants. Construction was continuing with some 800 workers on site; the suspended portions of the project were to come in later phases, Reese said.

Sands said work continues on its $5 billion project in Singapore.

The drop in gambling revenue in Las Vegas put the company in a bind by making it more difficult for the company to meet its obligations by the end of the year on the financing for its massive developments.

The Macau sites, which have cost $1.16 billion so far, are part of the company's $13 billion master plan in Cotai. Sands is trying to arrange between $1.5 billion and $2 billion in financing to continue building in Macau, but Weaver said it's not clear how long that will take or when construction might resume, though he's confident it will.

"We've got $1.2 billion sunk in to the ground, we're not going to walk away from it," he said. "I think there's no possibility that it's never going to start again."

Weaver wouldn't rule out further layoffs in Macau.

"We can't promise that there won't be people that ultimately are laid off," he said. "But at this point no decision has been made."
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/11/13/macaus.sands.ap/index.html

FYI, Recession means two consecutive quarters of negative growth.


^^ That's TECHNICAL RECESSION and not Recession itself. Two consecutive quarters of negative growth leads to a technical recession which may or may not lead to the actual recession for a fiscal year. It's but a barometer to estimate the likelihood of a full blown recession.

^^i agree. :cheers:

^^ yun nga rin pinagtataka ko eh,. sabi ng NEDA, ang GDP growth natin this 2008 is 4.5%. tapos bababa daw ng 4% next year. Ang sabi naman ng World Bank eh 3% for 2009 ang forecast nila. San naman nakuha ng Makati Business Club yung forecast nilang recession sa 2009? kasi 9 out of 10 sa members nila ang sumang-ayon dun eh. sabi naman ng local and foreign investors, masyado namang negatibo yung ganung forecast. Sana lang hindi maapektohan tong project na to. :ohno:

Alam mo parang napapansin ko ang Makati Business Club ay parang Anti Gov't at Progress sila?? siguro nasasagasaan sila ng gobyerno kaya ganun na lang sila kung magpahayag ng nakakasira at walang kabuluhang pahayag!

Alam mo parang napapansin ko ang Makati Business Club ay parang Anti Gov't at Progress sila?? siguro nasasagasaan sila ng gobyerno kaya ganun na lang sila kung magpahayag ng nakakasira at walang kabuluhang pahayag!

let's not be pessimistic pero wag natin i-disregard yung forecast nila. kasi kung sakaling totoo yung forecast nila eh isa sila sa pinaka malaking maapektohan. Hindi naman sila siguro Anti-progress pero syempre, they're just playing safe when it comes to their investments. Hindi na surprising na magbigay sila ng ganung pahayag. Kasi halos lahat ng big player markets na bansa is in verge of financial turmoil prior to the United States. Gusto lang siguro nilang iparating sa gobyerno na kailangan nilang magplano ng prerequisite moves kasi malaki epekto nun sa export sector. Kung Anti-Government naman sila, hindi na rin surprising yun,.:nuts:

Sa ngayon ba wala pa ring statement yung PAGCOR kung apektado na sila ng crisis? Kasi kung ang Macau eh medyo delikado na, pati na rin ang Singapore, di malayung pati tayo eh ganun na rin,.. wha! :ohno:

Alam mo parang napapansin ko ang Makati Business Club ay parang Anti Gov't at Progress sila?? siguro nasasagasaan sila ng gobyerno kaya ganun na lang sila kung magpahayag ng nakakasira at walang kabuluhang pahayag!

They are allies of Binay... that is why...

Wala pa naman tayong nababalitaan na nasa difficult times ang Genting at Aruze. Pati na SM at Megaworld. Lalo pa ngang tumaas ang net income nila so I guess wala pa tayong dapat ikakaba. tuloy pa din tong project na to.

kung ganun eh di masaya,. but i keep my fingers crossed.

This had been studied and proposed by financial consultants before this project went into confirmation. Theres a lot of debate in terms of asset analysis & in terms of forcasting how this project will gain and not result backcruptcy at the end. But despite this assessment, it's just an assessment, loopholes may still coming in but I know contingency plan was set-up already. I had one local friend here doing this financial consultations and he show me how this things was tabled from pre-development cost, to operation until returns of capital and profit earnings. Let's hope the outcome of this project would turn into positive. Well anyway, Filipinos are very appreciative and since we are socialite upscale, there is no problem in promoting this business.

HI Stanley, if you dont mind, can you ellaborate on this theory, thanks...

Thank you po! :)

Lahat ng bagay na maaring bumuo sa isang project na ganito kalaki is constant planning, revising and changing plans for we cannot predict the outcome in case we will be experiencing recession within our shores. Look at all things in a positive way. Just like the news that the Philippines is the only country in ASEAN to survive partially in the global economic meltdown, unlike its neighbors. O, that is somehow good news, not just for those who know the this and thats of investments and business, but also those people who want to change everyone's perception na hanggang dito na lang tayo at hindi na tayo uunlad. There is a lot of room for change dito sa bansa. And we should start here.

O, once na natapos na itong Phase na ito ng PAGCOR City, at naging successful ito hindi lang sa mga pinoy kundi pumatk din sa mga dayuhan, then they can proceed with the Phase 2. Reclaim like Dubai! :jk:

Anyways, sana talaga by next year, magsimula na to nang maipagmalaki ko sa mga kamag-anak ko na umuunlad na talaga ang Pilipinas, one step at a time.

Kaya rin siguro tayo nakasurvive sa recession kasi sa good standing natin in terms of the fiscal situation sa bansa, dahil sa E-VAT. If it weren't for the E-VAT, malamang lalo tayong nangapa sa pnadaigdigang merkado. Many people consider E-VAT as a burden, but for others, it's a help, especially for our economy.

Eto na lang..... MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS! :cheers:

WORLD, GET READY TO EXPERIENCE ENTERTAINMENT LIKE NO OTHER PLACE IN THE WORLD CAN OFFER!

Manila Bay Tourism City - The World in Asia! :)

hehehehehe........ :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kaya nga I am wondering, with the distinctive talent of every Filipino. if other races not degrading their capabilities can do it, why we, cannot. Sometimes too much ideas pour in will create confusion to the mean intention or focus of such topic. YOu can see, now the whole world are in the trend of every countries development. Every country is looking into creative means on how they will attract foreign investments in their own land thus will be the source of their economic development, this is globalization and this is reality, whether we like or not, exchange of trades. Now at this time, entertainment is the highest means of attracting investors and this large scale project if fully materialize, this would give name and pride to every Filipino. LIke what I experience here in Malaysia, this last few months, parang iba na yung tingin nila sa mga Filipino, I am happy that it results an upgrading thoughts to us dahil siguro sa mga nababalitaan nila like now Charice and Arnel Pineda, maybe I am out of topic already but I am positive about this project, hope I'll be part of it someday...

They are allies of Binay... that is why...

Can I include that if you are conducting business here and if you don't have padrinos you will be paying taxes and then will be paying extra more(kikil). That's why they hate the government and for Binay they know how he works evenly, from the squatters up to the class A people.

Makati would not be like that today because of Binay same to the city of Marikina it would now be like that if not to Bayani Fernando.

let's not be pessimistic pero wag natin i-disregard yung forecast nila. kasi kung sakaling totoo yung forecast nila eh isa sila sa pinaka malaking maapektohan. Hindi naman sila siguro Anti-progress pero syempre, they're just playing safe when it comes to their investments. Hindi na surprising na magbigay sila ng ganung pahayag. Kasi halos lahat ng big player markets na bansa is in verge of financial turmoil prior to the United States. Gusto lang siguro nilang iparating sa gobyerno na kailangan nilang magplano ng prerequisite moves kasi malaki epekto nun sa export sector. Kung Anti-Government naman sila, hindi na rin surprising yun,.:nuts:

Sa ngayon ba wala pa ring statement yung PAGCOR kung apektado na sila ng crisis? Kasi kung ang Macau eh medyo delikado na, pati na rin ang Singapore, di malayung pati tayo eh ganun na rin,.. wha! :ohno:

@MBC group
Grabe naman kasi sila mag Forecast ehh makakapg produce talaga ng Panic at remember isa sila sa Anti Vat Reform ng Gobyerno, ang perception ko talaga dito ay Anti Gov't sila talaga kasi sila yung nanguna sa malaking Rally sa Ayala last Feb. 29 ata yun ehh and correct kakampi pa sila ni Binay. malamng may hinihingi sila sa gobyerno na di napagbigyan.:bash:

@Macau, Singgapore Issue
sa Macau at Singgapore ay investor kasi ay Las Vegas Sand so american investor at malaki yung utang nila base sa kanilang announcement at nahihirapan silang umutang sa bangko kaya halt o delay muna ang construction.

@Pagcor Project
Confident ako na di talaga affected tong project na eto pero may possibilities na madelay kung magkaproblema naman sa pondo but base sa income ng mga investor except Paker eh halos kumita pa nga at kikita pa. sabi nga ni Andrew Tan 'NO WORRIES' :lol:

napanood ko kanina nag advertise sila sa CNN, di ko lang gaano natutukan kasi tumawag tatay ko.... hehe

Can I include that if you are conducting business here and if you don't have padrinos you will be paying taxes and then will be paying extra more(kikil). That's why they hate the government and for Binay they know how he works evenly, from the squatters up to the class A people.

Makati would not be like that today because of Binay same to the city of Marikina it would now be like that if not to Bayani Fernando.

You mean Makati would not be the Makati of today if not for the AYALA'S. With or without Binay, Makati will grow because of investment poured by this family and their partners... Counter argument lang po.

ang ginagawa nang pagcor ay wais. sapagkat dis is da bist taym tu inbist bikos win da dast klirs, makaw wil bi wik, bat bagung nayun wil be in i pirpik pusisyun tu upin syap, in wil be in i pusisyun up istringt.

^^^^ I wonder if your style of writing is allowed in this forum.

its even worse than text speak! peace!

You mean Makati would not be the Makati of today if not for the AYALA'S. With or without Binay, Makati will grow because of investment poured by this family and their partners... Counter argument lang po.

Ok lang... Argument is not a bad thing at all in fact it see things clearly.:cheers:

Yup Makati would not be like that if not because of BINAY. Every city is governed by a Mayor so what ever Mayor implements it reflects on it's people and the city. If your concern is the past well Manila is the best city here before..:) Mayor Lim (present), I dont see any improvement at all right now.

Businessmans would not make themselves look like sardines in an area without a clear and effective governing body.:)

Nakakainip! Gusto ko na tong maconstruct! :rant:

same sentiments! sana kahit rendering lang! please ilabas niyo na!

mga taga-PAGCOR...sana nmn ay nababasa nyo tong thread na to..:lol::lol:

lapit na mag-Pasko...maglabas na ng render, para everybody hapi:)

napadaan ako dito last night may mga truck na labas pasok sa construction site.

Kaya nga I proposed, those young members of this SSC Philippine Forum, na you have to create an organization representing ssc then registered it I think to SEC as a non profitable organization para legitimate kayong magshots or to appeal to recognized your great contirbutions to our economic developments. The knowledge that youve shared is more than enough for a new comer in this forum to learned much about what is going around not only pertains to skyscapers but also to social and political scenes. Posting through your research and taking pictures on your own personal expenses and effort, that is a great contribution already to our economy, the government must recognize that... Anyway hoping for the best of this mega projects. Wow I see, the grandeur of Metro Manila with the sparkling lights at night from the observation deck, can't wait and be part of it, I remember when I was in KL Tower before, it is really amazing.

^^ highly classified daw eh. I'm also ammused na kaya pala natin magtago ng mga vital infos.

Sana may yate or chopper isa satin dito para ma shot nmn ung site. Gusto ko makita lalo na ung observation tower.

napadaan ako dito last night may mga truck na labas pasok sa construction site.

These types of activities in that area have been going on since August. Looking great! :banana:

casino is about 16,000 s.m. for first phase.....two hotels for next phase.....one for the high rollers or reelers

Ang Dubai ay magtatayo nanaman ng isang napakagandang Tower na tinatawag na Naklheel Tower mga sobra 1km ang taas ng gusali.

Malaki ang pananalig ko sa ating bansa na magtatagumpay ang kanilang proyekto.
Bilisan na sana nilang maatayo ang pagcor tower upang mapasabay sa mga matatatag na mga bansa.

sana maging ganito na rin ang activity sa pagcor city soon.. just like one of singapore's IR projects.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/jenifer_semilla/DSC00247.jpg

^^ Sana nga pero mas malaki satin.:)

Saang view kaya pwede kuhanan yung PAGCORCITY? Kasi wala pang condo na makaka view ng maigi dun sa site. Ung MOA kaya.

yung mga condo sa ASEANA business park. baka tanaw yung construction area.

Ang Dubai ay magtatayo nanaman ng isang napakagandang Tower na tinatawag na Naklheel Tower mga sobra 1km ang taas ng gusali.

Malaki ang pananalig ko sa ating bansa na magtatagumpay ang kanilang proyekto.
Bilisan na sana nilang maatayo ang pagcor tower upang mapasabay sa mga matatatag na mga bansa.

Pabayaan mo na sila, that's all they have going for them. Very small ang market for people who just want to see mega structures or visit a metropolitan city. You don't escape New york or London, or San Francisco just to be in Los Angeles, or Tokyo, or Seoul, syempre you want to be close to nature and a little bit of culture.

The Philippines should work hard to preserve our natural wonders. Pero sa mga places like Manila, if we don't have them, then we should built, I also belive we will get there eventually.

Pabayaan mo na sila, that's all they have going for them. Very small ang market for people who just want to see mega structures or visit a metropolitan city. You don't escape New york or London, or San Francisco just to be in Los Angeles, or Tokyo, or Seoul, syempre you want to be close to nature and a little bit of culture.

The Philippines should work hard to preserve our natural wonders. Pero sa mga places like Manila, if we don't have them, then we should built, I also belive we will get there eventually.

I hope that they could make it happen...
btw anyone who has knowledge
"Is the Phil still a 3rd world country?
they say we are now 2nd world is taht true?"

as there is no such thing as 2nd world, the Philippines is still 3rd world.

but if there was, Philippines would be 2nd world since GMA announced it last year.

I hope that they could make it happen...
btw anyone who has knowledge
"Is the Phil still a 3rd world country?
they say we are now 2nd world is taht true?"

as there is no such thing as 2nd world, the Philippines is still 3rd world.

but if there was, Philippines would be 2nd world since GMA announced it last year.

Officially, all countries are no longer classified as 1st or 3rd world. Economies of the world are classified as high income or developed, upper, middle or lower income countries.

as there is no such thing as 2nd world, the Philippines is still 3rd world.

but if there was, Philippines would be 2nd world since GMA announced it last year.

FYI, 2nd world = Communist countries :cheers:

^^ Yes. And wala nang genralization na esho 1st or 3rd world....

We are a Newly Industrialized Country. Kumbaga, ang market natin at ang economy fierce na pero wala pang masyadong kakayahan ng tulad sa mga developed countries. Exception dito ang China at India since malaki ang population nila.

Sa Dubai naman, sabi nga nila, they have the balls to do it. Pero na threaten na nga raw sila at baka mag-slowdown ang developments sa Dubai.

So let's just pray na ito na ang inaantay nating chance para umunlad hindi lamang ang Manila kundi pati ang buong Pilipinas!

sana maging ganito na rin ang activity sa pagcor city soon.. just like one of singapore's IR projects.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/jenifer_semilla/DSC00247.jpg

Dapat mas matindi at mas maraming activities kesa dito. Since Singapore ay parang boung Metro Manila lang in size, or mas malai ng onti... Correct me if i am wrong. And besides mas marami tayong land resources para mag-reclaim pa ng lupa unlike Singapore na nag-slowdown ang rate ng projects sa kanila kasi hindi na nag-export pa ang Indonesia sa kanila ng sand, kumbaga ni-restrict na nila ang pageexport ng sand papunta dun.

^^ Metro Manila area = 636 SQ KM
Singapore = 692.7 SQ KM

I still believe, THE WORLD IS ROUND AND ROTATING, that's all folks. Dont worry about PAGCOR, like in NAIA, we also worried so much, ngayon, dumating din, kahit maraming negative criticisms, pero ayan pa rin siya pinapakinabangan na nating lahat. It will happen I am positive about it.......

FYI, 2nd world = Communist countries :cheers:

correct...in addition
Historically
1st world - is the western block/capitalist/industrialized
2nd world - communist block
3rd world - non aligned/neutral/developing or countires that did not belong to the other 2 categorizations.

Since most of the so called "3rd" world countries before are either developing or "poor" the term 3rd world eventually evolved to descibe a poor or under developed country...this categorization will soon be obsolete, if not already, since Russia is no longer considered communist but is now a capitalist economy therefore a 1st world country...

Habang wala pang mga scanned pics, magtiyaga muna tayo sa mga kuha ng cam. sensiya malabo, kinakabahan akong magpicture, nahuli na kasi ako dati na nagpipicture ng mga magazine :bash:

PAGCOR Headquarters
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8081/dsc00334md2.jpg

Pagcor tower version 3
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8196/dsc00336ro2.jpg

Pagcor Tower version 3 suspension bridge
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7531/dsc00337tc8.jpg

SM Concept
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2508/dsc00338qo2.jpg

SM Concept (Casino Royale)
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9990/dsc00339tn7.jpg

Andun din mga master plan ng iba pang mga investors like genting, aruze etc. next time kuha ako ng pics kapag wala pang nakakapagscan xD

Hinde kasi clear ung pagcor tower version 3 pero maganda sia kapag nakita nio sa magazine kasi may intricate weaving pattern yan na hinde halata sa pic



wow!parang yokohama yun dating nun place. parang intercon jp yun 2 crescent bldg sa right ng tower. ang galing!
i heard by 2010 tapos na yun first phase, kaso bakit di ko makita yun Manila Eye sa pic?anyway yun yung pinaka inaabangan ko yun PAGCOR TOWER and MANILA EYE since finally magkakaron na ang pinas ng bagong "icons" aside sa beaches at coconut trees. :lol:

since azure jp ang gagawa ng manila eye, sana as grand or kahit almost near ang size sa daikanransha sa odaiba, hehe :cheers: sana magkaron pa ng ibang ferris wheel na makukulay pag gabi at iconic ang design sa ibang part ng pinas hehe :banana:

WOW PH na talaga! WOW-na-WOW!:lol:

Sabi ng Economic Adviser ni PGMA sa seminar nito kahapon.

Matuto na daw magtipid ang Filipino at wag gasta ng gasta kasi sa ngayon kahit Car Industry ay nalulugi na lalo sa Amerika ay halos walang bumibili ng Car dahil nag-iipon ng dollars ang mga tao dun.

Anyway, sabi dun sa seminar, hihina daw ang Tourism Industry natin at ang ibang bansa. Kasi nag-iimbak ang mga Turista ng dollars ngayon T.T at sinabi din dun wag masyadong batikusin si PGMA kasi nasa right track daw yung ginagawa niya para sa Pilipinas.

^^its obsolete already... its not politically correct to call a country 1st world, or 3rd world.

the politically correct term is "developed" and "developing" countries.

I have a friend who works as a welder in the nearby Burgundy project in the reclaimed area. He can see the construction frenzy in the pagcor city from the top floors of the burgundy project. He said that the contruction magnitude in the Pagcor city site is really huge, Trucks come and go in the site the whole day. He also said that grava and other materials used in the contruction is coming from big ships in the manila bay in ver large quantity. :cheers:

^^ pictures please, ask your friend to take some recon photos... go!!

^^ Parang sosyal na welder yung friend nya. :D Wag lang ma-weld o malaglag yung camera and we'll be having a regular updater here. :colgate:

May nabasa ako sa tabloid na si Efrain ay nag seminar sa mga Japanesse Operator ng Retirement Facility Organization sa japan na halos may 10k na facility sa japan at ini endorse na sa Pagcor City magtayu ng mga retirement village , resort di lang sa japan pati sa pilipinas tulad ng Okada Resort Manila Bay. sana makakuha ng other potential investor. at di lang yun pati ating mga nurses at japanese nurses na pede dito mag work.

:eek2:Ops, alalahanin, sayang ang thread, wag nyo na bigyan ng reaction ung mga ganyan. mamamatay rin sila,.. haha, Tip lang ah, wag na kayo magreply sa mga ganyang message. matutuwa lang sila pag pinapansin nyo. As if, wala lang, another nonsense post na di napapansin. aight?:nono:

By the way, I agree to what adverg is proposing. We should start a group that is legitimate enough to voice out our ideas to PAGCOR. Because, according to what I see, the thread is now overflowing with rational concepts that deserve realization. I mean, we, as citizens that give a damn in this country, have every right to shout out what we think is the best for the welfare. After all, this is a democratic country. And I think we should do it now. So that we can share our insights and perceptions before the construction. so that, we can atleast give constructive criticism to their plans. This is substantial because it talks about economic boost of our country. Sana nga lang hindi pa late kasi early next year na ang construction hindi ba? But still, it's not a bad idea.

Btw, nice idea Sir ADVERG!:cheers2:

:runaway:

trying hard! another soddom and gamora would be city.

In everything you do, specially in this economic condition, you have to try hard or just give up and feel sorry for yourself. In this case some people in our country chose the former. We are not a country of quitters, we try really hard and work really hard, sorry we are not like you who gets everything even without trying. Now shut up and come back when you actually have anything meaningful and smart to say.

:eek2:Ops, alalahanin, sayang ang thread, wag nyo na bigyan ng reaction ung mga ganyan. mamamatay rin sila,.. haha, Tip lang ah, wag na kayo magreply sa mga ganyang message. matutuwa lang sila pag pinapansin nyo. As if, wala lang, another nonsense post na di napapansin. aight?:nono:

By the way, I agree to what adverg is proposing. We should start a group that is legitimate enough to voice out our ideas to PAGCOR. Because, according to what I see, the thread is now overflowing with rational concepts that deserve realization. I mean, we, as citizens that give a damn in this country, have every right to shout out what we think is the best for the welfare. After all, this is a democratic country. And I think we should do it now. So that we can share our insights and perceptions before the construction. so that, we can atleast give constructive criticism to their plans. This is substantial because it talks about economic boost of our country. Sana nga lang hindi pa late kasi early next year na ang construction hindi ba? But still, it's not a bad idea.

Btw, nice idea Sir ADVERG!:cheers2:

:runaway:

magaling,magaling,magaling...
alam ba nila ang tungkol sa skyscrapercity phils?...o meron bang tao dto na may koneksyon sa kanila...

I have a dorm-mate nung college who is working with the project. All I need to do is to reconnect with him para may inside scoop tayo.

@ pulsephaze22,
Thanks for your appreciation and louding my proposals. Kailangan ninyo yan dahil you as young ones are the hope of this nation. Sayang lang yung mga talented efforts ninyo kung tayo lang sa forum ang magpapikot-ikot nito na hindi narerecognized by the public and the governing bodies. When I review some of your post, most especially in taking picture sa malls which you said is prohibited, I think this is not fair, here in Malaysia, if you go to any malls here even in KLCC, you are free to take pictures. One time nga, one of our clients want to follow such dining concept in a mall, pumunta kami ng boss ko and my boss without asking permission with the inside people, he just taking shots around the outside design which they want to follow and they wont bother about it, maraming nagpapakuha kahit saan parte ng mall and even you can freely take the retail shops but nobody confronting you not to take pictures on it. But if you have legitimate organizations and recognize by the government and having your i.d. to yourself, you are freely to do this. I thing with this booming development sa atin, it is time for your effort must paid-off with grants and recognitions. I know all of you are working hard here, I salute you guys.... I am happy if this will materialize and I do believe this idea will result a positive way. Go now my friends.....

^^ pictures please, ask your friend to take some recon photos... go!!

^^ Parang sosyal na welder yung friend nya. :D Wag lang ma-weld o malaglag yung camera and we'll be having a regular updater here. :colgate:

Gusto ko nga pakuhanan sa kanya ung contruction ng pagcor city mula sa top floors ng project nila eh...hehehe sasabihin ko sa kanya pag nag kausap kami ulit. Nakakatawa nga kasi mukhang amaze na amaze siya dun sa scale nung project.

check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7740887.stm

sana ganito ka-engrande ang pagbubukas ng Pagcor City in the future...or better...:banana::banana:

check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7740887.stm

sana ganito ka-engrande ang pagbubukas ng Pagcor City in the future...or better...:banana::banana:

Nice Video!

^^ Crazy! That made Beijing 2008 seem like a pebble against Ayers Rock! I guess they don't feel the crunch on that side of the planet.

check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7740887.stm

sana ganito ka-engrande ang pagbubukas ng Pagcor City in the future...or better...:banana::banana:

Nice video. parang walang krisis para sa mga tga Dubai hehe.:nuts:

20M dollars just for party lang, wow, their really rich. Sana dinonate na lang nila sa mga mahihirap, marami pa ang matutuwa....

@ pulsephaze22,
Thanks for your appreciation and louding my proposals. Kailangan ninyo yan dahil you as young ones are the hope of this nation. Sayang lang yung mga talented efforts ninyo kung tayo lang sa forum ang magpapikot-ikot nito na hindi narerecognized by the public and the governing bodies. When I review some of your post, most especially in taking picture sa malls which you said is prohibited, I think this is not fair, here in Malaysia, if you go to any malls here even in KLCC, you are free to take pictures. One time nga, one of our clients want to follow such dining concept in a mall, pumunta kami ng boss ko and my boss without asking permission with the inside people, he just taking shots around the outside design which they want to follow and they wont bother about it, maraming nagpapakuha kahit saan parte ng mall and even you can freely take the retail shops but nobody confronting you not to take pictures on it. But if you have legitimate organizations and recognize by the government and having your i.d. to yourself, you are freely to do this. I thing with this booming development sa atin, it is time for your effort must paid-off with grants and recognitions. I know all of you are working hard here, I salute you guys.... I am happy if this will materialize and I do believe this idea will result a positive way. Go now my friends.....

great! i think we should be doing it right now. Does anyone knows how start up a site for that? sana masisiguro lang na makakarating sa PAGCOR before ung rendering. Construction na early next year diba? if possible, paki-inform na lang yung legitimate members ng project. para siguradong makakarating yung insights dito sa thread. :cheers:

Gagawa ba ng website para sa Tourism City? Para mapansin ng mga pagcor para influence natin sila? Longshot ata yan unless na mag pa contest sila para sa design ng mga projects nila. isipin mo $Billion ang cost, malamang kukuha sila ng mga expert opinions sa mga taong may experience sa pag gawa ng mga ganitong project.

Ilan kaya ang mga active members na nag cocontribute ng mga posts dito sa Tourism thread? May 100 ba? Enjoy na lang tayo mangarap at anticipate na lang natin kung ano gagawin nila sa Pagcor City.

^^Pardon me, I had a wrong grasp to a wrong word. not necessarily a website. masyadong magastos yun eh. Kailangan may full time watchdog. Saka nangangapa lang naman kasi pa tayo about sa well kept concepts ng PAGCOR. What i'm really trying to say is, that, we, atleast find a way to voice out yung ideas ng forumers dito. Weather igrab nila yung ideas or not, eh nakapag share tayo ng insights natin.Yeah, I agree na mas bibigyan nila ng importansya yung opinions ng experts pagdating sa project pero, ang habol kasi namin, eh atleast,genuine public info. Isa pa dahil napaka konti ng may alam sa project na to. There are plenty of people here which is apparently, deprived of information na guamagawa na ng imaginary PAGCOR city sa thread na to. But what the forumers depict, is I guess, rational enough to be seen by PAGCOR. I'ts worth a try though. Hindi lang naman din basta-basta ang mga forumers dito eh. Most of them eh profesionals na na may proper knowledge sa mga ganitong projects. Kaya nga andami nang nagsshare dito eh. Kita naman diba, andaming magagandang ideas. But yes, they are just sheer whispers na hindi marinig pero dapat pakinggan ng mga kinauukulan.

And, It's not about the population of the thread. It's about the ideas blooming on the thread, na, again, deserve realization,..:lol:

Again, we care so much about this country. Who are they not to listen to us diba?

WHEW:nuts:

magaling,magaling,magaling...
alam ba nila ang tungkol sa skyscrapercity phils?...o meron bang tao dto na may koneksyon sa kanila...

Obviousley tol hindi. Pero siguro merong may kakilala. atleast. Sila ang dapat makabasa ng messages. hehe

check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7740887.stm

sana ganito ka-engrande ang pagbubukas ng Pagcor City in the future...or better...:banana::banana:

^^ ÜBER GRANDE! My Gawd! Dapat mas bongga at mas engrande na kahit ang Dubai mapapanganga na lang sa tabi! :jk: :lol:

this is really nice opening, but please don't count our stones before seeing the actual project completed.

I passed by the area this morning after the Animo Run held in MOA. There are huge cranes scattered in one side of the area. I don't have a picture to share. sorry...

check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7740887.stm

sana ganito ka-engrande ang pagbubukas ng Pagcor City in the future...or better...:banana::banana:

wow, wala ako masabi.. dinaig pa nila yung Beijing Olympics IMO.. galing talaga nila, astig!^^

magaling,magaling,magaling...
alam ba nila ang tungkol sa skyscrapercity phils?...o meron bang tao dto na may koneksyon sa kanila...

uhhmm.. i dunno if this helps pero yun course-mate ko nun college classmate yun daughter ni mr. genuino sa isang subject, jprizal ata, if i'm not mistaken. she even helped my friend get a job in one of their schools sa laguna right after college. just don't know if close ba sila nun. :bash:

though i think naman na more or less the people involve in the project knows ssc and that probably one of them monitors the forum :cheers:

i think 2010 is a very exciting year. there are lot of things to look forward to. opening of Entertainment City Manila as well as the opening of the Philippine Skies.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo is on the right track to endorse the ratification of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Open Skies by the ASEAN governing body during the ASEAN Summit Meeting in Chang Mai, Thailand on Dec. 22.

In a letter to President Arroyo, the Federation of Tourism Industries of the Philippines (FTIP) -- an umbrella organization of major associations in the tourism industry -- told the Chief Executive that she is in the right direction to support the ASEAN Open Skies, “an important component of the overall economic integration of ASEAN, since transport links are critical to bringing down barriers to trade and facilitating change.”

The FTIP – which is headed by Atty. Alejandra C. Clemente -- is composed of all the major associations in the tourism industry, namely: Philippine Travel Agencies Association (PTAA); Philippine Tour Operators Association (PHILTOA); Hotel Sales & Marketing Association (HSMA); Hotel & Restaurant Association of the Philippines (HRAP); Philippine Tourism Business Club (PTBC); Board of Airline Representatives (BAR); Philippine Association of Convention Exhibition Organizers & Suppliers (PACEOS); Association of Car Rental Companies, Inc. (ACRCI); Manila Japanese Travel Agents and Hoteliers Association (MJTAHA); Freedom to Fly Coalition (FFC); and the Southern Tagalog Tourism Council (STTC) headed by Clemente.

Mrs. Clemente said that under the ASEAN Open Skies, ASEAN airlines can fly unlimited third, fourth and fifth freedom traffic rights among any cities within the ASEAN region. For example, Philippine carriers will be able to fly unlimited flights from Manila to Singapore to Bangkok, or from Cebu to Penang to Phuket.

She explained that from December 2008 until 2010, only capital cities will be opened. This means that ASEAN airlines like PAL and Cebu Pacific can fly unlimited 3rd, 4th and 5th freedom traffic rights between Manila and the other capital cities of ASEAN.

“This unified aviation market by 2015 will be the result of the 22-year liberalization process in ASEAN aviation, embodied in the ASEAN Roadmap for the Integration of ASEAN: Competitive Air Services Policy based on the implementation timeframe,” Clemente said.

“President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is on the right track in pushing this open-skies charter agreement as this will open up travel and the free flow of goods within the Region and will increase export as well as import between and among the ASEAN member countries,” the FTIP president said.

“One of the most important provisions of the ASEAN Open Skies Agreement is the 5th freedom of an airline from one country to land in a second country, to then pick up passengers and fly on to a third country where the passengers then deplane,” she added.

She said the signing of this agreement among the ASEAN members will bring in the leisure market and will bring in more tourists, thus increasing foreign exchange receipts from the $3.5B to $10B by 2010 which will increase tourist arrivals to five million.

Clemente also said that the ASEAN Open Skies is very timely with the passage of the Tourism Act by both the Senate and the House which hopefully will be signed into law before the end of 2008.

“At the same time, this will boost the Entertainment City known as Bagong Nayong Pilipino, the $15-billion project of PAGCOR and will bring in foreign as well as local investors who will build the much needed hotels and resorts. This will enable the country to accommodate more than 5M to 7M tourists yearly. Travel from and within the ASEAN countries will boost the tourist arrival figure and Tourism Secretary Ace Durano’s promotion and marketing thrust in emerging markets like China and India will definitely add to the tourist arrival statistics.”

The ASEAN Open Skies will therefore open the doors for the growth of tourism in the Philippines which will contribute to the economic stability and also cushion the impact of the global economic meltdown with new hotels and resorts which are expected to be ready by 2010.

An additional 20,000 will be added to 14,000 rooms that are presently available. It is further expected that 250,000 jobs will be available in two to three years time.

^^5-7million lang kayang i-accomodate? para sakin medyo konti yun. hmmm. Tama kaya yung hula nung writer o playing safe lang siya?:lol:

^^ Malay mo, ganyan muna sa simula, then it will blow like a bomb na biglang akyat to 12-15M tourists a year. That should take time for our LGUs to prepare the roads, safety and everything when the influx of tourists buzz out every system of MM.

cguro karamihan sa magiging tourists natin eh mga koreans...noooohhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! dadami pa sila!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

^^ hahaha... natawa ako dito...

korean invasion! quite good for us in so many ways...

sa simula lang siguro tapos gradually na pagtaas. hindi pwedeng biglain to think na ngayon pa nga lang na average of 3 million tourists a year pa lang tayo grabe na ang traffic sa metro manila. i dont mind kung puro koreans ang tourist dito, tourist pa din naman yun at magdadala pa rin naman ng pera sa economy. hindi tayo dapat choosy.

^^ hahaha... natawa ako dito...

korean invasion! quite good for us in so many ways...

sa simula lang siguro tapos gradually na pagtaas. hindi pwedeng biglain to think na ngayon pa nga lang na average of 3 million tourists a year pa lang tayo grabe na ang traffic sa metro manila. i dont mind kung puro koreans ang tourist dito, tourist pa din naman yun at magdadala pa rin naman ng pera sa economy. hindi tayo dapat choosy.

Yes, true. We need more tourists! more Americans, Arabs, Chinese, Koreans, other Asians, Europeans :)

whered the pagcor tower thread go?

EDIT: never mind. :D

^^ hahaha... natawa ako dito...

korean invasion! quite good for us in so many ways...

Lalo na sa mga developers at realtors. Maraming benta.

^^ hahaha... natawa ako dito...

korean invasion! quite good for us in so many ways...

lol. Yeah as long as they don't all spit on the floor. I went to baguio last year for a vacation. Sabi ng friend ko dun medyo asar sila sa koreans dahil kung san san nag spit. I was horrified when he proved me right. Hot gal spitting inside SM Baguio isn't exactly an attractive quality.

With 15m spitting tourist we might need to build a dam. :lol:

^^B.I. tayu sa kanila...:lol::lol: yan kasi eh.. :jk:

lol. Yeah as long as they don't all spit on the floor. I went to baguio last year for a vacation. Sabi ng friend ko dun medyo asar sila sa koreans dahil kung san san nag spit. I was horrified when he proved me right. Hot gal spitting inside SM Baguio isn't exactly an attractive quality.

With 15m spitting tourist we might need to build a dam. :lol:

Filipinos do spit everywhere. We're no different from the Koreans (most Filipinos).

filipinos doesnt spit inside the mall :o

^^ i've seen some. especially yung mga mukhang (forgive my term) urban poor talaga.

True. It's just that, they are tourist. They're not exactly urban poor considering they can afford going here. I don't know, i guess my friend just branded them to me as "Spitting Tourists" lol

san ba sila nag-spit? sa sahig? o sa mga bins?

^^ yung mga pinoy they spit inside the malls. minsan makikita mo yung mga corners merong mga dura. i.e. sm manila.

as for the koreans... well, ganun na talaga sila.

^^ EWWW! :puke:

Anyways, updates?

^^ i've seen some. especially yung mga mukhang (forgive my term) urban poor talaga.
yes, i agree. and it's not only saliva but sometimes they even spit phlegm. that's why we have a term 'dahak' right? no wonder TB is still a problem in our country. :)

about the tourists... i think they'll target more of the Chinese. :) so don't worry about those spitting koreans.

^^ chinese are worse than koreans when it comes to lack of social grace. they also spit, they cough without covering their mouth, they talk very loud, they don't fall in line etc. there was an article about this before.

we should target europeans and japanese. these tourists really have money to spend.

^^ apparently, It's the chinese that they are targeting in this project. Coz they spent billions just for gambling and entertainment in Macau. :ohno:

ey guys off topic. no racist comments please.

^^^ I think since we are going pretty technical about this, the country will only experience a slowing down of growth but not recession. UBS and JP Morgan Chase already affirmed this. Q3 reports released today that the economy did better than expected in that past quarter. 4.6% growth.

^^ Good. Now we should set our eyes on this.

still no render..hayy..pinasasabik nila ako masyado:lol:

Minsan nga gusto ko nang pasukin ang office ng Pagcor tuwing madadaanan ko just to see the actual plan. Pero okay lang kasi this keeps me excited.

Minsan nga gusto ko nang pasukin ang office ng Pagcor tuwing madadaanan ko just to see the actual plan. Pero okay lang kasi this keeps me excited.

Update guys, I am actually promoting this project in our fellow Pinoys here in Singapore. They were really amazed by this huuuuuge project. However, we can never convince everybody. As expected, there's still a lotta rotten responses :ohno:

Update guys, I am actually promoting this project in our fellow Pinoys here in Singapore. They were really amazed by this huuuuuge project. However, we can never convince everybody. As expected, there's still a lotta rotten responses :ohno:


same here in japan, whenever i tell my pinoy friends about this project, parang di sila makapaniwala na something big will come out soon in Manila.

may nakausap din ako, nakausap niya si Geniuno, tuloy daw talaga ang project. hopefully, wag magtagumpay yung mga kokontra. who knows, sa atin magpuntahan yung mga investors na naapektuhan ng global crisis gaya ng macau. sana pati yung mga dapat na gagawin pa lang dito sa dubai, kahit 10% lang nun, mapunta sa pinas. apektado na rin kasi sila ng krisis.

we will find out if were doing it.......part of the development.

Schedule is very tight to have phase one ready by 2010.....
it will be a 24/7 work schedule to meet the target opening....



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^^very tight schedule indeed. Construction sector will be very busy next year.This project ay para na ring stimulus package sa economy ng Philippines.

Update guys, I am actually promoting this project in our fellow Pinoys here in Singapore. They were really amazed by this huuuuuge project. However, we can never convince everybody. As expected, there's still a lotta rotten responses :ohno:

Singaporeans are somewhat nationalistic. I dunno if its true.
But still promote it. Thanks! :okay: :D

same here in japan, whenever i tell my pinoy friends about this project, parang di sila makapaniwala na something big will come out soon in Manila.

They will also have the Sumida Tower in Tokyo but smaller than Pagcor Tower.

may nakausap din ako, nakausap niya si Geniuno, tuloy daw talaga ang project. hopefully, wag magtagumpay yung mga kokontra. who knows, sa atin magpuntahan yung mga investors na naapektuhan ng global crisis gaya ng macau. sana pati yung mga dapat na gagawin pa lang dito sa dubai, kahit 10% lang nun, mapunta sa pinas. apektado na rin kasi sila ng krisis.

Yun nga eh. Sino ba ang mga big time developers ng Dubai? Why don't Chairman Genuino invite them since parang daplis lang sa atin ang global recession.

we will find out if were doing it.......part of the development.

Schedule is very tight to have phase one ready by 2010.....
it will be a 24/7 work schedule to meet the target opening....



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Sana maabot ninyo yung target! I will pray for you guys!

^^very tight schedule indeed. Construction sector will be very busy next year.This project ay para na ring stimulus package sa economy ng Philippines.

Kaya nga tayo tinawag na Hottest Real Estate Invstment in Asia.

they keep on advertising this on CNN. they shoud've made better TVC though. but anyway, goodluck to this project! :D

^^ Maganda nga siguro kung mas binigyan ng emphasis yung design and layout nung ad.

Anyways, okay lang naman na lagi nilang inaadvertise par ain case mapanood ng mga major developers ng Dubai, e baka magka-interes sila since tinamaan sila ng gloabl economic breakdown.

^^sunduin n natin sila sa Dubai..hahaha.

di ko pa ren matsempuhan ang ad sa CNN...awts

^^ Keri yan! :okay:

^^sunduin n natin sila sa Dubai..hahaha.

di ko pa ren matsempuhan ang ad sa CNN...awts

Sana may maglagay ng ad sa youtube.

^^ favor naman, upload nyo naman sa youtube yung commercial. Ilang oras rin akong nag-antay kahapon kaso di ko natsempohan eh, :nuts:

mga anung oras kaya usually lumalabas yung ad? bihira lang ba sa isang araw pinapatalastas yun?

^^may mga karamay na ako...:lol:

Sana may maglagay ng ad sa youtube.
there's already one in youtube but a longer version.

i saw the PAGCOR ADS sa ABS-CBN..last time bago cla ang off station..ganda..

twice na ko nagpunta ng moa ng gabi from the south side ng bridgeway sa san miguel by the bay area parang may mga barge at malaking barko na nakadaong dun sa site tapos may mga ilaw...

yup.. minsan tinatanaw ko from dito sa GT yung site.. minsan nga may mga barge sa pampang nya...

Does it mean na may dala-dalang panambak yung mga barge na yun? Hmm......

@Zukichiro: Kelan mo nakita? Awts. Kapamilya pa naman ako..... :cry:

we could all email pagcor to redesign the tower... i prefer this render. it looks neat and refreshing.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5333/scanqr3.jpg


i agree....

Some PIctures of Pagcor project

http://www.pagcor.ph/simplegallery/images/abt-head-6.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/about-pagcor/ground-breaking-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/about-pagcor/ceo-gem-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/business-conference-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/ceo-senator-gordon-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/proposed-waterfront-head.jpg

kulang sa skycrapers.....

di kasi mukhang pinoy-ish ung render ng tower dyan eh...parang pang middle east..hehe

I read on the photo above "Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City".. is it integrated city or tourism city? ano ba talaga hehe

2009 is fast approaching. I cant wait for the construction of this project.:banana:

kulang sa skycrapers.....

Gayahin natin HK or Singa kasi halos lahat ng skscrapers nila built on reclaiemd land.

Kaso baka mag-raise ng alert na baka tamaan ng earthquake ang MM, naku! Tatamaan yung mga bay developments.

So dapat fully engineered lahat ng structures to withstand kahit Magnitude 6 na earthquake, since we are lying on the Pacific Ring of Fire.

Has anyone seen this YouTube video of the Pagcor Tower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2zbvGXgDXA)? Of course, cold play's music is just as grand. Enjoy!

wala pa rin?!?!!?:gunz:
mukhang next year na ang renders:soon:

gusto ko lang sana eh pag nilabas na ang renders eh mashoshock ang mundo:eek2:

yung PAGCOR tower ba PAGCOR rin ang gagawa o, compliment na lang ng inevstors?:nuts:

^^its funded by genting. please feel free to read previous posts.:)

Updates? Wala pa din?!

:rant: :bleep: :soapbox:

wala pa rin?!?!!?:gunz:
mukhang next year na ang renders:soon:

gusto ko lang sana eh pag nilabas na ang renders eh mashoshock ang mundo:eek2:

Yung mas grande pa sa Dubai! :banana: :banana: :banana:

ang tagal badtrip.. mALapit ng mapuno tong thread.

http://www.pagcor.ph/entertainment/casino-city.html

^ Maganda ANG BAGONG WEBSITE ng pagcor :)

^^it's a sign!..malapit na!!!:bowtie::bowtie::bowtie::bowtie:

It's a lot better than the old website. Huge improvement. :okay:

Salamat naman! :nocrook:

Yun bang video na nagpaplay dun sa website e yun ba yung mismong ad nila sa CNN?

Salamat naman! :nocrook:

Yun bang video na nagpaplay dun sa website e yun ba yung mismong ad nila sa CNN?

i doubt. 10 minutes yung video. masyadong mahal kung yan ang ibrbroadcast.

^^ Teka. Ang sinasabi mong 10 minutes e yung sa youtube? Hindi yun.

Yung nagpaplay dun sa website na pinost ni Narnian King. Yun ang sinasabi ko.

Well the one on the website is indeed 10 minutes

^^ Teka. Ang sinasabi mong 10 minutes e yung sa youtube? Hindi yun.

Yung nagpaplay dun sa website na pinost ni Narnian King. Yun ang sinasabi ko.

pareho lang sila actually. badtrip nga e. na-excite pa naman ako. akala ko bagong video, replay lang pala.

^^ Pero the last time I browsed the site, ibang video ang nag-play and this time, shorter.

Meron pa siyang sinabi dun na "You too can be a part of it."

Tapos mas maganda naman yung mga 3D renders ng buong complex.

SMIC gets provisional Pagcor license for gaming venture (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=423427&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña Updated December 13, 2008 12:00 AM
Source: Philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=423427&publicationSubCategoryId=66)

SM Investments Corp. (SMIC) the invement holding firm of the Sy family, said it has secured a provisional license from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) to build gaming facilities which will be leased to a foreign casino operator.

In a statement, SMIC said Pagcor’s grant of a provisional license marks the start of the transformation of a 60-hectare property within the Mall of Asia complex along Roxas Boulevard into a world-class business and entertainment destination.

SMIC chief financial officer Jose Sio said the conglomerate, through unit SM Land Inc. will concentrate on providing the public with the best entertainment facilities to attract tourists and the general public. “We will just offer great entertainment value. The gaming side will be provided by an international operator,” he said.

Sio said plans include the establishment of several hotels by leading international hotel chains like the Raddisson and the upscale Regent brands. High-end retail shops, a theater for the performing arts, a sports arena, residential condominium buildings, boutique hotels, and a ferry terminal that will directly link the Mall of Asia complex with SMIC’s Hamilo Coast in Nasugbu, Batangas are also in the pipeline.

SMIC, one of the country’s largest conglomerates with interests in real estate and properties, retail and banking, did not identify the foreign gaming operators they are in talks with.

Earlier reports said SMIC and Asia Pacific Gaming of Australia held exploratory talks for a possible partnership to build a world-class gaming facility in the Philippines.

SMIC, which owns three of the top 10 biggest malls in the world, said the project is in line with the group’s thrust into tourism development.

“We believe in the country’s strong potential in tourism. As such, SM will be at the forefront in providing much-needed infrastructure and facilities for more tourists to enjoy the country’s scenic destinations, while experiencing the warmth of Philippine hospitality,” said SMIC vice-chairman Henry Sy Jr.

SMIC gets provisional Pagcor license for gaming venture (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=423427&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña Updated December 13, 2008 12:00 AM
Source: Philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=423427&publicationSubCategoryId=66)

SM Investments Corp. (SMIC) the invement holding firm of the Sy family, said it has secured a provisional license from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) to build gaming facilities which will be leased to a foreign casino operator.

In a statement, SMIC said Pagcor’s grant of a provisional license marks the start of the transformation of a 60-hectare property within the Mall of Asia complex along Roxas Boulevard into a world-class business and entertainment destination.

SMIC chief financial officer Jose Sio said the conglomerate, through unit SM Land Inc. will concentrate on providing the public with the best entertainment facilities to attract tourists and the general public. “We will just offer great entertainment value. The gaming side will be provided by an international operator,” he said.

Sio said plans include the establishment of several hotels by leading international hotel chains like the Raddisson and the upscale Regent brands. High-end retail shops, a theater for the performing arts, a sports arena, residential condominium buildings, boutique hotels, and a ferry terminal that will directly link the Mall of Asia complex with SMIC’s Hamilo Coast in Nasugbu, Batangas are also in the pipeline.

SMIC, one of the country’s largest conglomerates with interests in real estate and properties, retail and banking, did not identify the foreign gaming operators they are in talks with.

Earlier reports said SMIC and Asia Pacific Gaming of Australia held exploratory talks for a possible partnership to build a world-class gaming facility in the Philippines.

SMIC, which owns three of the top 10 biggest malls in the world, said the project is in line with the group’s thrust into tourism development.

“We believe in the country’s strong potential in tourism. As such, SM will be at the forefront in providing much-needed infrastructure and facilities for more tourists to enjoy the country’s scenic destinations, while experiencing the warmth of Philippine hospitality,” said SMIC vice-chairman Henry Sy Jr.

^^ With all these projects in the pipeline, MOA will easily be the largest Malling complex in the world. I think SM should go for the title inasmuch as it will be a real come-on on RP's and MOA's tourist brochures.

^^ and moa can easily be the largest and yet with high tenant occupancy and shoppers... i think the ones in china are half empty.

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-01.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-02.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-03.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-03A.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-04.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-05.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-06.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-07.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-08.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-09.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-10.jpg

http://pagcortower.com/Pagcor_Tower_A-11.jpg

dapat unahan na ng SM ang pagcor city. gawa na rin naman ang roads at other infrastructure sa lugar nila.