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^^ Exactly! :)

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Bye bye summer. :wave:

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I've been meaning to capture the Burj in this light for absolutely ages. Shortly after sunset, on a clear evening, it takes on an amazing metallic shine.

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Burj Khalifa lost to Chrysler Building?!

what a shame to modern technology!!!
human are lagging behind?!!!

Just because people vote for building A, why does everybody have to automatically make the assumption that they must "hate", or at least dislike, building B? I think all 4 buildings left are amazing, but I can only pick 2.

Just because I might pick the opposite one that you picked, doesn't make me "crazy". No matter which building wins, it should not be considered an "embarrassment" to the rest of them. There is no shame in making the Final 4 out of a tournament of 64.

petronas twin tower and burj khalifa was so great!...i want to see great chysler building photo

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nozRGV7oj-M/S__T4S3sXEI/AAAAAAAADI4/yjy3uyEJUiI/s1600/chrysler_hyatt.jpg

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love the eagle+1

I just wanted to mention that I think it is amazing that we now have enough supertalls to fill out a 64 building bracket. Nobody would have believed that a decade ago. If this tournament is really every 4 years (like the world cup) we may need an expansion to 128 for the next one! :nuts:

also a mega promotion, competition logo,brand change every 4years(olympic style),real trophy,own website and everyone can vote for it!

would like to suggest to the organizer/mods that for the final pls have 4 pics for each which really represent the supertalls....

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5318/201002128.jpg

Wow, very subjective and interesting final 4. A mixture of height and design.

Even though I voted for BK, one just can't deny Chrysler's beauty:

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I don't mind as much BK loosing (I loooooooove the Chrysler), then I do the stupid comments.

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this portrait is pretty good... u did it?

Official banner for Supertall World Cup Semi Finals.

^^^Nice pics of Chrysler HK999. It's about time a few "good" ones got posted. Last one is stunning!

^ a given is that the format of the image we use for the one on one is a square 330 x 330 pix. Great photo's don't always come out good on that size. If people want to help, please find us images for that format, thanks.

So, where's the final?

^ a given is that the format of the image we use for the one on one is a square 330 x 330 pix. Great photo's don't always come out good on that size. If people want to help, please find us images for that format, thanks.

I can do that for you. Are Flickr images okay? I mean the ones that are Creative Commons licensed.

^ a given is that the format of the image we use for the one on one is a square 330 x 330 pix. Great photo's don't always come out good on that size. If people want to help, please find us images for that format, thanks.

If you were responding to my post, I was referring more towards some comparisons I saw a few pages ago, where some absolutely brilliant pics of the Burj were juxtaposed against blurry, overcast shots of Chrysler.

However, is there any way that you can increase the size of these squares for the finals? (or, as someone else brought up, maybe include 3-4 pics for each)

^^

Is there really any need though? Surely everyone who's voting at this stage knows exactly what they are voting for.

^^

Is there really any need though? Surely everyone who's voting at this stage knows exactly what they are voting for.

Well since a lot of people are complaining about the images, we might as well do it to shut them up.:cheers:

^^ Yeah, that's true.

^^That pictures is so horribly photoshopped look at the crown! Look as if it was over exposed and then some out darkened to a greyish color..



Totally agree -_- the size difference between the Burj and Chrysler in this case just outweighs all other factors.. at least i guess on this forum.

photoshopped?? u must be kiddn right? or just plain ignorant. not worth wasting my time on ur ill point of view.

ESB is coming back on the votes.

photoshopped?? u must be kiddn right? or just plain ignorant. not worth wasting my time on ur ill point of view.

And what right do you have to talk to me like this?

If the photo was not photoshopped, the top of the crown will be blown out, just like the street lamps. It is normal to fix our photos after we shoot them but in the case its just not properly done.

Here is a proof it has been photoshopped. Pretty much the lighter the area, the more it has been manipulated.

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http://errorlevelanalysis.com/media/04deaa7_enhanced.jpeg

http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/04deaa7/

ESB took the lead, this is a good competition going on.

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Petronas Twin Towers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fransharren/4490179845/) by Frans Harren (http://www.flickr.com/people/fransharren/), on Flickr


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i saw petronas with my eyes, a real beauty :)

While the Petronas is one of the most beautiful buildings I've seen in real life, I do have to agree that most of the images posted so far is post-processed.

HDR is needed to capture the highlights from the building and to properly expose its dark surroundings.

Damn BK's got it going on.

though some different colored LED lights added would definitely be cool..

I can post HDR photos too!

Hail to the king, baby.

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Awesome night view of NY

Damn, petronas took the lead by a single vote for the moment... this one is really hard.

the skyline of new york is nice, but i dont think that there are buildings that really get attention out of them, especially chrysler building totally disappears in the cluster. cant wait for Freedom Tower to be finished, then it will again have something to stand out.

^^ What are you talking about? ESB, Bank of America, Trump World Tower, Chrysler, MetLife and Citigroup dominate Midtown from almost every conceivable angle.

NYC is the only city I've been to where tall buildings dominate the surrounding area from so many perspectives. You can see ESB from 30+ miles out in New Jersey, for christ's sake.

I would agree with you except BoA tower is sometimes hard to see for me. Chrysler does seem to get lost in the cluster sometimes, but ESB is always noticeable (and I can't wait for 15 Penn Plaza too)....

^^perhaps you have not been to HK. HK has 3000+ buildings with heights over 90 meters while NYC has less than 900. Please check link below.

And if you tabulate, total of buildings from 2nd to 5th still less than HK alone. NYC is far behind.:cheers:

http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html

who cares. NY has much more economic and cultural impact than hk has or ever has had. and besides, this contest is about skyscrapers, not cities. go esb and chrysler!

^^perhaps you have not been to HK. HK has 3000+ buildings with heights over 90 meters while NYC has less than 900. Please check link below.

And if you tabulate, total of buildings from 2nd to 5th still less than HK alone. NYC is far behind.:cheers:

http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html

who cares. NY has much more economic and cultural impact than hk has or ever has had. and besides, this contest is about skyscrapers, not cities. go esb and chrysler!

guys this isn't an HK vs. NY thread, no need in going down that route comparing two beautiful, powerful cities.

^^perhaps you have not been to HK. HK has 3000+ buildings with heights over 90 meters while NYC has less than 900. Please check link below.

And if you tabulate, total of buildings from 2nd to 5th still less than HK alone. NYC is far behind.:cheers:

80% of the buildings in that category are 30 story commie blocks.

Are all of Hong Kong's skyscrapers crammed into two giant financial districts? The answer is no.

Midtown Manhattan is still the largest skyscraper cluster in the world.

COUNT EM

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you aren't helping the matter....

80% of the buildings in that category are 30 story commie blocks.

Are all of Hong Kong's skyscrapers crammed into two giant financial districts? The answer is no.

Midtown Manhattan is still the largest skyscraper cluster in the world.

COUNT EM

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www.flyinphilsphotos.com (http://www.flyinphilsphotos.com/photo-info/nychud.html)
wow. that photo is amazing, and it shows only part of NY's massive collection of skyscrapers.

i kinda prefer chicago over new yorks skyline

80% of the buildings in that category are 30 story commie blocks.

Are all of Hong Kong's skyscrapers crammed into two giant financial districts? The answer is no.

Even though I am from Hong Kong, I am arguing based on the numbers.

According to this CTBUH (http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2xRxAalkjoA%3d&tabid=1006&language=en-GB) article, Hong Kong has 2354 buildings above 100 meters while New York City has 725 buildings above 100 meters. And according to this CTBUH graph (http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/?do=graphs&graph=1), Hong Kong has 277 buildings over 150 meters, most in the world.

Counting the "30-meter commie blocks," there are a total of 7687 buildings in Hong Kong (including those 2354) according to Emporis.com (http://www.emporis.com/application/?nav=worldmap_ci_bu_sk&id=101300&lng=3), who serves as the database for CTBUH (http://www.ctbuh.org/Portals/0/Newsletter/6-05.pdf). That leaves to 5333 buildings below 100m, which is 70% of the total skyscraper figure of Hong Kong.

Also, there is only one CBD in Hong Kong.

Now that I got the facts straight, there is no point in arguing. Stunning pictures, by the way. :cheers:

Hong Kong has 277 buildings over 150 meters, most in the world.

I'd be curious to know where shanghai ranks, and if it'd overtake HK in total buildings over 150m someday..but that's a topic for another day.:)

how many supertalls does HK have? Just 3 right? Two IFC, BoC, and ICC.

6 ur missing the center nina and central plaza

You miss The Center, Nina Tower And Central Plaza.

I'd be curious to know where shanghai ranks, and if it'd overtake HK in total buildings over 150m someday..but that's a topic for another day.:)

how many supertalls does HK have? Just 3 right? Two IFC, BoC, and ICC.

Shanghai is much farther behind with only 112 buildings over 150m.

And yeah, Hong Kong has 6 supertalls. One Island East comes REALLY close at 298 meters. There won't be another supertall for HK in the foreseeable future.
:cheers:

Shanghai is much farther behind with only 112 buildings over 150m.

And yeah, Hong Kong has 6 supertalls. One Island East comes REALLY close at 298 meters. There won't be another supertall for HK in the foreseeable future.
:cheers:

:(.....it's a constant race, HK gotta stay on top especially with mainland cities rising (but imo they have a long ways to go to overtake HK)! and...are you cheering to that?:lol:

Extremely tall skyscrapers tend to bring out the nationalist in people, as they are seen as symbols of a country's success. But actually they're more a reflection of unrestrained greed and a signal of impending financial disaster. The building of each of the four finalists signalled the bursting of the some of the biggest bubbles in history. Cheers!

Chrysler Building and Empire State Building were completed 1930-1931, following the Roaring Twenties and coinciding with the start of the decade long Great Depression.

Petronas Towers was completed in 1998 during the Asian financial crisis, which began the year earlier and ended the dominance of the so-called Asian Tiger economies. Malaysia entered its first recession for a long time that year.

Burj Khalifa - 2009 - during the global financial crisis and amid a crash in property prices in Dubai.

Is it any coincidence that the world's tallest skyscrapers are being built in China?

lol probably coincidential but that is a very interesting piece of information.

@Uaarkson, have you seen these?? IF you want to compare american cities, I Chicago better, not NYC.

And fyi, I have been all these cities as mentioned thus I can give my opinion.

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:(.....it's a constant race, HK gotta stay on top especially with mainland cities rising (but imo they have a long ways to go to overtake HK)! and...are you cheering to that?:lol:
Unless something dramatic is happening in hong kong, I don't think that glad will build another tallest. But I am very certain that the number of skyscrapers will continue to grow. It will keep its title as the city with the most skyscrapers for another few decades,

Extremely tall skyscrapers tend to bring out the nationalist in people, as they are seen as symbols of a country's success. But actually they're more a reflection of unrestrained greed and a signal of impending financial disaster. The building of each of the four finalists signalled the bursting of the some of the biggest bubbles in history. Cheers!

Chrysler Building and Empire State Building were completed 1930-1931, following the Roaring Twenties and coinciding with the start of the decade long Great Depression.

Petronas Towers was completed in 1998 during the Asian financial crisis, which began the year earlier and ended the dominance of the so-called Asian Tiger economies. Malaysia entered its first recession for a long time that year.

Burj Khalifa - 2009 - during the global financial crisis and amid a crash in property prices in Dubai.

Is it any coincidence that the world's tallest skyscrapers are being built in China?

How about the sears and the wtc twins.?

^^ they didn't represent something significant, so he left it out

The actually tall skyscrapers are being built in dubai not china.

^^That's not really true. There a a few 400m ones nearing completion in Dubai, and the Pentominium is getting going, but there are 500m and 600m towers starting construction in lots of Chinese cities.

I agree though that the argument was flawed and stuff was left out where it didn't fit.

the argument is pretty sound and hardly mine: the credit and the will/ego to build the world's tallest buildings usually come from a bubble when there's a crazy amount of capital available - the buildings themselves are often unprofitable for a long time - ie Empire State Building. Look at Burj Khalifa - Dubai changed the name of the building after being bailed out by Abu Dhabi because the sheikhdom couldn't pay its debts after the property bubble burst.

I just focused on the four finalists but there are plenty of other examples. Groundbreaking for WTC started in 1966 following an almost two decade bull market in US stocks and the buildings opened in 1970-1972, just in time for a stock market crash - the Dow dropped 45% in the next two years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973%E2%80%931974_stock_market_crash

If you ignore the Burj, then the world's tallest skyscrapers are all being built in China. Look at the number of Chinese cities you've never heard of in the Supertall section

^^I do believe though that the ESB was entirely constructed after the market crash, and during the depression, a time when I would have thought that very little capital was available. That's really the only thing I could even try and refute, the rest I'll take your word for.

don't get me wrong - I'm a big fan of skyscrapers - I just think people shouldn't get too nationalistic over them....

^^ Oh no, they really shouldn't. It's very silly, but it's easy for me to say that because I don't love my country. Like, just not love.

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Has this suddenly become a KL-skyline-thread?

@hkranger

I think it would be more accurate to say that the construction of tall buildings tends to correlate well with local property market upturns, and that in some cases these upturns are associated with a bubble.

Which is not to say that I disagree with you about China - the level of construction activity seems rather hard to support based purely on demand.

Has this suddenly become a KL-skyline-thread?

This just show to you how petronas towers look like.:cheers:

^^ It's a good job. Most of us had never even heard of the Petronas Towers before those images were posted.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/152451710_87e0045334.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/152451710/

^^ It's a good job. Most of us had never even heard of the Petronas Towers before those images were posted.

yeah...for who are see it for first time..they will blow there mind after seeing that..very great first impression

Guys, the pictures are awesome.

But please properly give credits to the photographers.:cheers:

^^ It's a good job. Most of us had never even heard of the Petronas Towers before those images were posted.

I cant believe you said that... only works the negative effect for you... but seriously do you think that is a proud thing to say?

What you said reminds me of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1N351vzY-M) video.

Seems like 'you people' never knew about any landmarks. So no surprise 'you people' wouldnt know Patronas.

^^

Have you ever heard of sarcasm? I was being facetious as I don't find all these images helpful. Everyone on this site knows what the high profile towers, such as the Petronas, look like.

Have you?

That was meant to be a mock of what you would post in reply to a sarcastic post. So again you failed my sarcasm.

Seems like 'you people' never knew about any landmarks. So no surprise 'you people' wouldnt know Patronas.

true..he only know america supertall,thay why he only love a artdeco style,he dont know the existing of glass,modern structure

^^ Sarcasm is lost when the level of English is not correct. I can't speak any other language, and that you can should be admired, but you shouldn't attempt sarcasm if you can't carry it off.

true..he only know america supertall,thay why he only love a artdeco style,he dont know the existing of glass,modern structure

I love how you conveniently forget my talk of liking more transparent glass, and loving the Shanghai Tower. Also, I'm sure you can't read my location...I don't live in the US.



I recognise I made a fairly angry comment, which I probably shouldn't have made, but how the hell has this denigrated back into a slanging match?

^^ Sarcasm is lost when the level of English is not correct. I can't speak any other language, and that you can should be admired, but you shouldn't attempt sarcasm if you can't carry it off.


Whats wrong with my English in #1072 and the post i made weeks ago? Yea i know #1074 didnt make any sense my bad. Let me edit it.

^^
You have to be word perfect when using sarcasm. Again, you speak English, pretty damn well, I wouldn't slag that off because I can't speak any other language, so I'm not gonna go through word for word and say how it's wrong.

I apologize for the initial angry comment, and I'm not getting into another argument.

^^ Hey, people have never had any problem getting my sarcasm ... they might not only if it was an insider's joke (they often are) :D

^^ I'm officially out. I get drawn into arguments too easily. Good luck fellas.

I win! I made Tenmile quit!

Just the thread. Not the site. I'll think you'll find it was a combined effort though. :)

^^:D

I win! I made Tenmile quit!

congrats!

true..he only know america supertall,thay why he only love a artdeco style,he dont know the existing of glass,modern structure
This kind of comment is getting really tired. Especially when used against people who aren't even in America.

This kind of comment is getting really tired. Especially when used against people who aren't even in America.

im not saying his american...i mean he really like america building..

I just can't stay away.

^^ I like buildings regardless of location, just like any proper skyscraper fan. I'm not gonna list them individually.

You were saying he only knows of American buildings, which I think he proved obviously isn't the case. If you were trying to say he voted for The Empire State Building and Chrysler Building because he likes them...well congratulations on solving that mystery. I wonder what gave it away, perhaps the fact that he's stated that much in the thread? Nah.

Lol, sarcasm never works on text.

^Seriously.

I've gotta say, though. I was for sure gonna vote for Chrysler, but now I'm really considering how much I've always liked Petronas. Those towers are just otherworldly.

OMG! The thread has been corrupted by people arguing and resorting to personal attacks over a simple vote of their preferred building(s).
Everyone has different tastes and has the right to choose their favourite buildings.
NO need to condemn other people's choice or views just because it is different from your own's.
Out of the 4 semifinalists, my favourite is the Petronas towers. But that doesn't mean I hate the other 3 buildings....just a matter of preference :)

rare shots of PTT:)
evening
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early 6.30 morning.
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towards 8 morning.
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Beautiful Petronas Twin Towers in different perspectives
enjoy or hate it:cheers:

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petronas towers from stella maris (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rizalgeo/2406155617/) by rizalgeo (http://www.flickr.com/people/rizalgeo/), on Flickr


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Look guys, they towers are nice, even voting against them in the semis doesn't mean I/we don't like them, but seriously, when did this become a Petronas showcase? The towers have their own thread. Lay off.

yeah..it to much..please stop it,

did you know that menara is actually higher. the tower is shorter, but it stands on a little hill that makes the top a few meters higher :D

^^ I actually didn't. That's pretty interesting :)

I just can't stay away.

^^ I like buildings regardless of location, just like any proper skyscraper fan. I'm not gonna list them individually.

I must agree with you on that last remark, I wish more people would think like that:)
Greetings.

^^I think most people on here would agree too. It's the minority which ruin it for the majority.
Greetings to you too.

alright enough arguing. esb is superior to petronas towers and lets leave it at that.

For you . For me too, but there are a lot of people who don't think so.

alright enough arguing. esb is superior to petronas towers and lets leave it at that.
How arrogant.

so far the Petronas towers have kept a steady lead of 8 votes, so apparently others disagree.

all of them have poor taste.

And you shouldn't use a computer

im using computer is so oldskol brain..already expired..

The Petronas are for me a modern Chrysler, they didnt hold the tallest record for very long but ther archtecurally more interesting(if not as iconic/famous) than the ESB IMHO..

CB advance to the final. Hope it will meet Petronas. It will be an epic art deco vs modern tower.

Jan i just saw that there's other upcoming contests similar to the current one, very cool!

Incredible Boring Final, Chrysler Building vs Petronas Towers; It would have been so much better an Empire State Building (A building with much more Cultural significance than the Chrysler, and also is taller) vs Burj Khalifa (Dont have to say anything else) :banana::banana::banana:

The Petronas are for me a modern Chrysler, they didnt hold the tallest record for very long but ther archtecurally more interesting(if not as iconic/famous) than the ESB IMHO..
the esb is much more famous than the petronas towers. the only time those were known outside of their regional area was soon after they were built, because they were the controversial new wtb's. that fame was only temporary, however, and they have fallen into a much more obscure state than that which esb is in. esb is still famous and will most likely always be more famous.

The Empire State Building NOT in a Final of world skyscrapers? Not a competition in my book.

ESB should be there instead of the Chrysler building, IMO. What an odd outcome.....

the esb is much more famous than the petronas towers. the only time those were known outside of their regional area was soon after they were built, because they were the controversial new wtb's. that fame was only temporary, however, and they have fallen into a much more obscure state than that which esb is in. esb is still famous and will most likely always be more famous.

please realize...it not famous in asia(world most population).

please realize...it not famous in asia(world most population).

Popularity can be gauged on many variables, not specifically population.

Popularity can be gauged on many variables, not specifically population.

yup i understand...but if u mention it in entirely asia,only few know about it..the point is hehe,petronas is symbol of rising asia,every asian know it and adore it..

I doubt you speak for the entire Asian continent. We're not talking about a random skyscraper in the United States here. The Empire State building epitomizes the skyscraper.

Petronas Towers are very worthy of their spot in Finals. I'm not doubting that whatsoever....just the fact that we're having a skyscraper competition that won't include the ESB just doesn't sit well with me.

Stop being so incredibly butthurt.

Not quite familiar with how that feels, unlike you I assume.

Just my opinion concerning the ESB is all.....I think many people agree with me on that. However, each to his own :).

It would be a shame not to see the ESB in the final.
The ESB has been the world's tallest for 40 years. It has a historical value as no other scyscraper in the world, it was built in a revolutionary way. And still, years after it was built, it dominates the skyline of manhattan - the prototype of every megacity!

Aks any child to draw a picter of a skyscraper - you'll get a picture similare to the ESB.

I don't want to make the Petronas look poor, those are two amazing towers with a great value for asia. But they are not yet capable of being as important as the ESB.

Go ESB, get them!

please realize...it not famous in asia(world most population).
ive asked multiple people from both china and vietnam whether they believe the esb or petronas towers are more iconic, and they all said esb. keep in mind that these people are relatively recent immigrants to the US as well.

Btw the competition is not a popularity contest. (I hope this is not World Skyscraper Idol. :lol:)

It's quite sad nobody in this URBAN FORUM talks about the building itself, but more of other things. :ohno:

Let us share why any of those buildings deserve to be in the FINAL.

This final shows that spire buildings are more iconic or favorite than flat roofed one...

So: :tiasd:

@patchay

they are in this final because of popularity. petronas, esb, burj, chrysler, all of them. i can guarantee you that ~95% of the people that visit this website understand hardly anything about architecture. this was always (as sad as it is) a popularity contest rather than an architectural one, and it is because of that reason.

And what do you think, why are these skyscrapers so popular?

All of them are very interesting in terms of achitecture. All of them do have a special shape and they were built in ways, no building was built before them.
So I do see a relation between architecture and popularity.

cladding-petronas win
spire-petronas win
height-petronas win
safety-petronas win
night appearance -petronas win
interior-petronas win
iconic-both win
history-ESB win

clear-petronas are more charming then ESB(my opinion)

cladding-petronas win
spire-petronas win
safety-petronas win
night appearance -petronas win
interior-petronas win
history-ESB win

clear-petronas are more charming then ESB(my opinion)
and in my opinion esb is more charming than petronas.

Arguing like that, ESB or Chrysler should both be out of competition long time ago...

and in my opinion esb is more charming than petronas.

so u want to say ESB spire is beautiful then petronas?ESB cladding is better the petronas?please tell me what part makes esb more iconic?

^^Why do we ESB and Chrysler lovers have to justify our opinions? I ask for no justification from you. You like what you like. I like what I like.

so u want to say ESB spire is beautiful then petronas?ESB cladding is better the petronas?please tell me what part makes esb more iconic?
you never justified any of your recently stated opinions, so what makes you think you have the right to demand a justification from me?

because all opinion should comes with a strong explanation(photo/word)..otherwise its become useless point and weak opinion..example
i can say moon is bigger then earth,but i need to prove why i say so.
i can say petronas is more charming,why?then i give u all some judgement factor(cladding,height...)its make my point of veiw is stronger

@patchay

they are in this final because of popularity. petronas, esb, burj, chrysler, all of them. i can guarantee you that ~95% of the people that visit this website understand hardly anything about architecture. this was always (as sad as it is) a popularity contest rather than an architectural one, and it is because of that reason.

It is a location based popularity contest. Just as 95% of the forumers are not architects, a lot of forumers are also voting by heart. If the same competition is to be held in a Chinese forum, then the final is likely going to be between two Chinese towers.

you never justified any of your recently stated opinions, so what makes you think you have the right to demand a justification from me?

obviously petronas glass is look better then EBS brick,most of us can see it
obviously petronas silver spire is look more nicer then ESB messy spire with sort of cable,anrenna,wires and all the mechine upthere
obviously petronas is higher then esb
obviously the safety on petronas tower are more efficient(the skybridge,2storey lift,the stronger concrete base)
night expression on petronas cannot be doubt..the best ever..its look glow at night,all the transparent window make it shine,owh my god!..many people adore its
obviously interior inpetronas are more comfortable,with the full glass window allow light to comes in,the aluminium cladding inside,with large epic chandelier at the lobby..ist look so modern art
the design of petronas itself is a mirror of asia..so avant garde!:banana:

^^Well I don't think you have given any justification, and you don't need to. You say you think the Petronas has the best cladding, the best spire, etc, but you don't say WHY you think each of these things, and that's fine. If we started going along like that, we'd have to go so far into detail on our opinions, and it's just not necessary. All opinions should have an explanation, yes, ie I should know in my own mind why I like x or y, BUT, there is no reason at all that you can demand justification because we disagree with you.


obviously petronas glass is look better then EBS brick,most of us can see it
obviously petronas silver spire is look more nicer then ESB messy spire with sort of cable,anrenna,wires and all the mechine upthere
obviously petronas is higher then esb
obviously the safety on petronas tower are more efficient(the skybridge,2storey lift,the stronger concrete base)
night expression on petronas cannot be doubt..the best ever..its look glow at night,all the transparent window make it shine,owh my god!..many people adore its night image
obviously interior inpetronas are more comfortable,with the full glass window allow light to comes in,the aluminium cladding inside,with large epic chandelier at the lobby..ist look so modern art

Again, there is nothing obvious about it. You like the cladding of the Petronas more than the ESB, I don't. Also, I don't think the ESB's facade is brick, but that's besides the point. The point is, that you keep saying obviously. You might think it obvious, but I don't find it even to be true, let alone wholly evident.

Please stop confusing your obvious opinions with fact.

Guys, forget if any certain tower is an icon. Just consider the pure architecture. I am not biased, but seriously, do we even want a final of CB and ESB? For me, Petronas wins. :banana:

^^Well I don't think you have given any justification, and you don't need to. You say you think the Petronas has the best cladding, the best spire, etc, but you don't say WHY you think each of these things, and that's fine. If we started going along like that, we'd have to go so far into detail on our opinions, and it's just not necessary. All opinions should have an explanation, yes, ie I should know in my own mind why I like x or y, BUT, there is no reason at all that you can demand justification because we disagree with you.

i not disagree your opinion..i ask u which part esb is good then petronas..i just need simple answer.

obviously petronas glass is look better then EBS brick,most of us can see it
obviously petronas silver spire is look more nicer then ESB messy spire with sort of cable,anrenna,wires and all the mechine upthere
obviously petronas is higher then esb
obviously the safety on petronas tower are more efficient(the skybridge,2storey lift,the stronger concrete base)
night expression on petronas cannot be doubt..the best ever..its look glow at night,all the transparent window make it shine,owh my god!..many people adore its night image
obviously interior inpetronas are more comfortable,with the full glass window allow light to comes in,the aluminium cladding inside,with large epic chandelier at the lobby..ist look so modern art
you only justified 2 of your statements, those being height and safety (safety being debatable in my opinion, as esb is a very safe building). The others, rather than justifying them, you simply restated the opinion, but with more words. "obviously petronas glass is look better then EBS brick,most of us can see it" is simply an opinion, not a justification. hell, it isnt even factual (esb isnt brick, its limestone masonry) but your ignorance is another issue entirely. and i can assure you petronas would be winning by much more if "most of us" could "see that petronas has better cladding than the esb". this is simply another unjustified opinion. just stop trying to argue. you dont even know how to justify your arguments, so there really is no point.

i not disagree your opinion..i ask u which part esb is good then petronas..i just need simple answer.

You NEED a simple answer? No you demand one with no authority at all.

you only justified 2 of your statements, those being height and safety (safety being debatable in my opinion, as esb is a very safe building). The others, rather than justifying them, you simply restated the opinion, but with more words. "obviously petronas glass is look better then EBS brick,most of us can see it" is simply an opinion, not a justification. hell, it isnt even factual (esb isnt brick, its limestone masonry) but your ignorance is another issue entirely. and i can assure you petronas would be winning by much more if "most of us" could "see that petronas has better cladding than the esb". this is simply another unjustified opinion. just stop trying to argue. you dont even know how to justify your arguments, so there really is no point.

can u foward to me back when i ask your justification?i only asking WHY?so it should be a little explanation on your opinion,not on fact

Can't we just stop? Every couple of days we get into a heated debate about who's opinion is 'right', or rather, you guys say we are wrong for disagreeing, OR, as on this occasion, you start demanding reasons for why we disagree. Opinions need no justification to anyone other than one's self.

Let's all just be friends :D

obviously petronas glass is look better then EBS brick,most of us can see it
obviously petronas silver spire is look more nicer then ESB messy spire with sort of cable,anrenna,wires and all the mechine upthere
obviously petronas is higher then esb
obviously the safety on petronas tower are more efficient(the skybridge,2storey lift,the stronger concrete base)
night expression on petronas cannot be doubt..the best ever..its look glow at night,all the transparent window make it shine,owh my god!..many people adore its
obviously interior inpetronas are more comfortable,with the full glass window allow light to comes in,the aluminium cladding inside,with large epic chandelier at the lobby..ist look so modern art
the design of petronas itself is a mirror of asia..so avant garde!:banana:

STOP it!

As your countrymen, I strongly advice you to control yourself and do not embarrased other forumers, including all of those from Asia. HAHAHA

And no offence, you've made YOUR POINTS CLEARLY, thus DO NOT continue to be childish...

This competition just proves a famous saying "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder".

In comparison, some guys could say Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is super hot super sexy, while some others say she sucks, she's not attractive, and not up-to Megan Fox standards, etc.

what point we made competition without arguement,no need to opened this thread,they should make a poll only..so no one can critic each other,pathay~aku bknnya xberadap,aku bkn menghina pendapat dia,aku tnya msoalan mudah,perlu ke bukan ruangan diskusi kalau xboleh berdiskusi?

OMG, what's the fighting all about? Shouldn't this cup be fun? Why don't you folks just enjoy it and let others have their own opinions?

"petronas towers are shit. not esb. esb is superiority".you all close your eyes when im using computer send this,but when i proudly say good about petronas and just asking him what so charming about esb,everyone blame on me,saying that im childish and what so ever,this is not fair!

^^ He gave his opinion, strongly. Perhaps too strongly. Still, no one has demanded that you explain your opinion, so we shouldn't have to be made to justify ours.

is that so hard to say what charming about esb..?its make sense now..
im not demanding.im ASKING.

^^It's hard to put into words. Everything about it is just so charming and elegant to me. It has a strength and power. It's massing is, for me, the epitome of how a skyscraper should be. The antenna atop the spire is pretty nasty, but it takes nothing away. You did say you 'needed' a simple explanation. That's not asking.

im doin nothing wrong,i need to know what make its charm..maybe if u listed down it will change someone mind to vote for esb,that all,tht the point of discusion,not to say this@that building shit,ugly(i already done it after uall make me piss of)it rude

Again, you don't need to know anything. You want to know. You're not doing anything wrong necessarily, no, but we are not obligated to give any reasons because you ask. You didn't really give any reasons, and you don't need to. People who say a building is shit ARE going too far, but I can't speak for them.

Just because a building is newer does not mean it is safer. See the original WTC vs. the Empire State Building. Guess which one has better exits in the case of an emergency? Which one doesn't have drywall for elevator shafts? It all depends on the building codes of a country/city/agency/era.

As for the Petronas lobby, I'm sure it is nice, but it is quite silly to just dismiss the ESB lobby. Have you ever been there? It is beautiful as well.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6130/5919718870_4fa97272ef_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34471641@N07/5919718870/)
ESB lobby (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34471641@N07/5919718870/) by hoveringcheesecake (http://www.flickr.com/people/34471641@N07/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6150/5919158889_4a9ba82dfe_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34471641@N07/5919158889/)
ESB ceiling (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34471641@N07/5919158889/) by hoveringcheesecake (http://www.flickr.com/people/34471641@N07/), on Flickr

Lastly, if we are again talking about safety, has the Petronas survived a plane crashing into it? Not sure yet? Alright then.

very nice interior...a touch from heaven!

the interior design is epic. looks ancient

STOP it!

As your countrymen, I strongly advice you to control yourself and do not embarrased other forumers, including all of those from Asia. HAHAHA

And no offence, you've made YOUR POINTS CLEARLY, thus DO NOT continue to be childish...

This competition just proves a famous saying "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder".

In comparison, some guys could say Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is super hot super sexy, while some others say she sucks, she's not attractive, and not up-to Megan Fox standards, etc.

Sorry but in my opinion Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is wayyyyy hotter than Megan Fox! hehehe :)

^^ It's not a great analogy as Megan Fox is only 25 and Rose Huntington-Whiteley is 24.

God yes, ESB's lobby owns. It's a celebration of art and the city.

I can't speak for most of Asia but when I traveled to Japan and talked about skyscrapers, everyone knew the ESB and even linked it to me when I mentioned I was from NYC. Granted I was talking to people who are into that kind of thing so it doesn't say much.

i think statue of liberty if anyone speak about newyork
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/image_olympiclogo_nyc2012_01.gifhttp://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/13012490559C4k86.jpghttp://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/9388003-usa-famous-cities-stamps-with-symbols-new-york-statue-of-liberty--san-francisco-golden-gate--washing.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/poster2.jpg

Just my opinion, but I've never been too crazy about Petronas' facade, it's way too busy for me and horizontal. I prefer simple, and soaring, I've also never liked sky bridges, on any building I can remember.

The ESB is simple, soaring, and I'm a sucker for this era of architecture. Easy choice for me.

"petronas towers are shit. not esb. esb is superiority".you all close your eyes when im using computer send this,but when i proudly say good about petronas and just asking him what so charming about esb,everyone blame on me,saying that im childish and what so ever,this is not fair!
i said petronas was shit because someone said esb was shit and i was just giving them a taste of their own medicine. i dont think petronas towers are shit. i was just trying to show the person who called the esb that how ridiculous they were being. now how about all this arguing stops. its pointless.

What happened with the final?

^^I suspect it'll be tomorrow.

aww my Empire State Building couldn't pull through :( I suppose I'll vote for the Petronas Towers for the final.

Final will start on Thursday. As the voting was close I'd like to have a proper look at the results first. At first glance things seems fine, just a few incidental cases which I don't think are going to change the results.

Still a small chance for the ESB! Though I can imagine any change in the results is going to result in plenty of venom spewing on the forums.

^^I think the few 'incidental cases' probably occurred on both sides, so I don't think our beloved ESB has any hope. At least the Chrysler made it.

You're probably right, I'm glad the ESB made it this far, not that I really expected otherwise. Too bad I'm not as big of a fan of the CB, most of my favorites were on the bottom half of the bracket. Still the CB certainly deserves to be in the finals.

OK, why didn't they start the final round ,yet?

^^

Read post 1164.

http://i55.tinypic.com/xc80om.jpg

^^DUDE, Please stop spewing your propaganda images. We know your thoughts by now.

^^ And we know yours, so take a deep breath and count to 10

^^ I didn't just give mine...again. You did. :) We keep stopping the argument, and then one of you guys has to start again with some jingoistic crap about how your opinion is the right one. Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaassse stop.

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There. Everyone has thier own opinion on things. Full stop.

Oh ok, I shouldn't reply to your posts, but you replying to mine is totally fine. I have been trying to tell you that about opinions for days. YOU are the one who keeps imposing them upon us. We know what you think, and we are ok with it. It's the constant rubbing in our face of that opinion that's annoying me. I really shouldn't let your shit get to me, but I just find your jingoistic comments really grating,.

Glad that Petronas pulled through....It was a close fight, hopefully a fair and healthy one as well. A worthy opponent ESB was

Glad that Petronas pulled through....It was a close fight, hopefully a fair and healthy one as well. A worthy opponent ESB was

Petronas will win the contest :D

Okay, we got Chrysler vs. Petronas in the grand finale starting Thursday. Game on! :cool:

I have an exam tomorrow and the final is on thursday .. hell yeah !!!

Okay, we got Chrysler vs. Petronas in the grand finale starting Thursday. Game on! :cool:

Wow Jan, with the ESB my three favorites (4 & 5 are the old WTC and Sears/Willis ;)).

i'm doing poster for final2..quiet hard to find a chysler beatiful clear image.hurmm,can someone send to me..

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/Untitled-1-2.jpg

i'm doing poster for final2..quiet hard to find a chysler beatiful clear image.hurmm,can someone send to me..

Here you go. Courtesy of the official CTBUH website:

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/?do=image&image_id=653&building_id=422&building_name=Chrysler%20Building

EDIT: Hah, looks like you beat me to it. Nice job man, but the Chrysler's crown really should be in full view. Zoom it out a bit, perhaps?

Here you go. Courtesy of the official CTBUH website:

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/?do=image&image_id=653&building_id=422&building_name=Chrysler%20Building

poster already done..is that ok?

Nice one. If you could make a banner out of it (size 719 x 123) I'll stick it up.

For all the wrangling of hands and gnashing of teeth I'm pleased at the pairing for the final. IMO it's the best combination for the final: One that is the penultimate example of a highly artistic period and that inspired so many structures that followed, vs. one of the highest forms of modern skyscrapers that built both upon it's predecessors in form but with an unyielding contemporary and futuristic verve. Both are iconic and were very progressive for the times and settings upon construction, and both required innovative structural design to become reality. Both are also done with "high style" in architectural form (with classic propotionality and symmetry), incorporating grand public presence without primarily serving as public spaces. Both also strike a fine balance between ornamentation and functionality. One suspects Vitruvius would approve of both with ease!

I'm highly content knowing that these are finalists, regardless of the outcome. Either is certainly a worthy recipient of the recognition.

Cheers. :cheers:

Edit: Those posters guy4 has made really shows Pelli's homage to the Chrysler. Fate?!!

Hey Jan, or any other Moderator will you make other forums for the Construction and 70's cup? BTW GO CHRYSLER

pic

just saying, but petronas is a lot bigger, this just seems wrong :ohno:

We could hope people actually know something about the buildings and that they're not relying on just the poster? ;)

Nice one. If you could make a banner out of it (size 719 x 123) I'll stick it up.

already try,but hard to transform vertical structure into horizon banner.its not fit

For all the wrangling of hands and gnashing of teeth I'm pleased at the pairing for the final. IMO it's the best combination for the final: One that is the penultimate example of a highly artistic period and that inspired so many structures that followed, vs. one of the highest forms of modern skyscrapers that built both upon it's predecessors in form but with an unyielding contemporary and futuristic verve. Both are iconic and were very progressive for the times and settings upon construction, and both required innovative structural design to become reality. Both are also done with "high style" in architectural form (with classic propotionality and symmetry), incorporating grand public presence without primarily serving as public spaces. Both also strike a fine balance between ornamentation and functionality. One suspects Vitruvius would approve of both with ease!

I'm highly content knowing that these are finalists, regardless of the outcome. Either is certainly a worthy recipient of the recognition.

Cheers. :cheers:

Edit: Those posters guy4 has made really shows Pelli's homage to the Chrysler. Fate?!!

Well said! :applause:

Hey Jan, or any other Moderator will you make other forums for the Construction and 70's cup?

These have their own sticky threads in the Hall of Fame section (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=481).

already try,but hard to transform vertical structure into horizon banner.its not fit

Tell me about it!

@GunnerJacket: indeed well said. It's good two have to finalists that each represent a different era and a continent.

hurmm..it look weird
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/banner.jpg

^^
boobjob

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/banner.jpg

:ohno:

hurmm..it look weird
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/banner.jpg

This is really cool :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

i know its bad....becoz i dont have anyidea to put vertical tower into horizontal banner.i've try,but the building look tiny

2 spears better than one? :lol:

Can anyone, at the end of the final, put up the numbers of the votes according to country/city?? And if possible, each 'game'?
Would be interesting to see how it affects the results of each 'game'.

I must say, I am very happy with how this turned out, but the question is... which is better, the chicken or the egg? We know which came first from this one, but its a real tough one for me.

never thought The Petronas would go this far.

this is sp great.

hurmm..it look weird
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/banner.jpg

giggity

i'm doing poster for final2..quiet hard to find a chysler beatiful clear image.hurmm,can someone send to me..

How about a close up of one of those eagles on the CB vs a close up of one of the spires on Petronas?:cheers:

^^Would a close up of each of their spires not be better? You know, like for like.

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nice guy4versa4. maybe u can add their spires or d whole buildings in d middle (even if its small). just a suggestion:)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/bannercopy.jpg

still think an eagle from the CB vs. the round ball section of Petronas would look good. Can we please see how that would look? :)

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still think an eagle from the CB vs. the round ball section of Petronas would look good. Can we please see how that would look? :)

round ball is not fit..becoz it very thin.while eagle is wide

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/bannercopy.jpg

That's the best one. I really like that. :banana:

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/banner.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/ee.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/bannercopy.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/banner1.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/ee.jpg

^^ Excellent work! I like it :cheers:

hey!!! spend 2 hours to search best pics and edit...:banana:
here's the outcome:ohno:

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy12/cth3206/xlbanner.jpg

i cant believe superfavs Burj Khalifa and the Empire State Building were beaten in the semifinals. The Empire State VS Petronas match was the most exciting and it was practically a tie. Great tournament and congratulations to the author and those who made it possible!

My favorite for the title match is Chrysler Building !!!

Maybe aerial shots of the two would be good for the banner as well? :dunno:

http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/images/2008/07/11/chrysler_bldg_aerial_view_cropped.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y7VWSS_8k6s/S8sJai623uI/AAAAAAAADK0/KwjaLDQd7Gw/s1600/petronas......jpg

http://www.yesicanusechopsticks.com/thesequel/thailand2005/IMG_1925.JPG

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/ee.jpg


Nice one!

edit: @guy4versa4, what about using façade elements? Just a suggestion..
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7922/bannerexample.jpg

It is as I said if ESB loses I'm voting for the twins.

I like the sunset one, I'll go and use that one to replace the one we had lined up, thanks! :)

i thought mine is quite nice but i lose:bash:


http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy12/cth3206/xlbanner.jpg

Very nice banner.i love it!credit to guy4!

yup!nice one!congrates to guy4versa4.very unique and full with aesthetic value.shows the best and unique from both candidates.i think he or she should be a banner maker for this kind of competition next time again!love all your banner.

are burj khalifa going to compete with esb for the second runner up?

^ no. We'll have to wait until they meet in some other tournament.

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/banner.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/ee.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/bannercopy.jpg

I kinda like option 3 because it suite with the skyscrapercity colour theme but all of them are great.btw gudluck to both tower,both are marvelous..

ptt

We all thank guy4versa4 for his superb banner work. Awesome!

are burj khalifa going to compete with esb for the second runner up?

Really Khalifa vs Petronas

Should be run as a poll...

El Classico should have been ESB vs Chrysler! :)

yup!nice one!congrates to guy4versa4.very unique and full with aesthetic value.shows the best and unique from both candidates.i think he or she should be a banner maker for this kind of competition next time again!love all your banner.

its my plesure:cheers:

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy12/cth3206/xlbanner.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/bannercopy.jpg

These 2 banners are my favourite. :cheers:

Aaah again so close!

Go CB, go Art Deco, go history & go unique beauty!

Really Khalifa vs Petronas

Should be run as a poll...

Agreed!!!! :cheers:

Agreed!!!! :cheers:

for what?
poll for khalifa and esb is ok

Wow! Thank you so much C. P Tan!
everyone love guy4's banners only
U r the one!:banana:

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy12/cth3206/xlbanner.jpg

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/bannercopy.jpg

These 2 banners are my favourite. :cheers:


and i am envy
is not moderator ask everyone give credit to photos posted here?
i guess those pics use by guy4 not 100% taken by him
eventhough banner made by him should aslo give credit to the photograhers ma..
at least my banner got @flickrs photos:)
why ar?!!:bash:

The only things that are beautiful about chrysler are the eagles and the top... the rest is just a box... like ESB :ohno:

^^ i respect ur opinion EC, but the problem with the chrysler building is, that you have to look at HR pics to see the details of the bldg at all. from the base to the top, the cladding changes every now and then. There are ornmentations, details etc. which get lost on many pics. It has a widely ranged detaillevel. The facade of the twins is pretty cool, but its repetitive and only the top has kinda another type of cladding, along with the spires.

Since i am an art deco fan and ny lover, i voted for CB, allthough the Petronas are very nicely done twins.

TY for the supertall WC :-) and a happy weekend from tmw on to everyone. :-)

The only things that are beautiful about chrysler are the eagles and the top... the rest is just a box... like ESB :ohno:And Petronas is just a pair of tubes, Burj Khalifa is just a really tall spire, Taipei 101 is just a stack of Chinese boxes...

Is anyone else hearing the word "Petronas" and thinking it's a spell from Harry Potter? No? Just me then.


:)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dellahuff/3609419585/sizes/z/in/photostream/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2426/3609419585_df7d2bdb3b_z.jpg?zz=1


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahmadhilmy/2492926646/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2492926646_8b601cabba_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3496591269_2f7aaf6bcc_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/janmikegpixels/3496591269/)
Petronas Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/janmikegpixels/3496591269/) by janmikeg (http://www.flickr.com/people/janmikegpixels/), on Flickr


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/3496580695_669b51e1a6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/janmikegpixels/3496580695/)
Petronas5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/janmikegpixels/3496580695/) by janmikeg (http://www.flickr.com/people/janmikegpixels/), on Flickr


http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielcheong/2508386173/sizes/z/in/photostream/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2508386173_313e28c3f8_z.jpg?zz=1

The word box should never be used in the same sentence as Chrysler. It is the antithesis of boxy skyscrapers. It has setbacks, a large base, varied facade treatment, ornamentation and is beautifully proportioned with a highly vertical form. It's basically the perfect skyscraper.

Petronas owns too, but is ultimately a less sophisticated structure.

Chrysler doesn't seem to impress me. To many building design like it. Only the crown is unique.
Petronas impress me a lot. I don't find any building in the world like it. The whole tower is unique.

Is anyone else hearing the word "Petronas" and thinking it's a spell from Harry Potter? No? Just me then.


:)

I've been playing games on Sporcle and having to keep typing Petronas in (for the spell) and I keep thinking of the towers.

I saw this amazing picture on an ad yesterday in South Station in Boston. Unfortunately I couldn't snag the best pics of it but I think will you get the idea...

Of course, somebody seemed to be a little confused on the heights of these buildings (Petronas and Chrysler both looking a little tall?).

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/IMG_8939.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/IMG_8942.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/DZH22/IMG_8940.jpg

Petronas impress me a lot. I don't find any building in the world like it. The whole tower is unique.

It's definitely not unique. There are two of them!

:banana: :nocrook:

i can see 3 building standout from the poster above..pearl oriental,petronas tower and swiss tower

Petronas is way too tall in that picture. For example, it is not taller than Oriental Pearl or Taipei 101... Chrysler also looks too tall, but not as egregiously as Petronas.

Voted for Chrysler Building this time. :cheers2:

The word box should never be used in the same sentence as Chrysler. It is the antithesis of boxy skyscrapers. It has setbacks, a large base, varied facade treatment, ornamentation and is beautifully proportioned with a highly vertical form. It's basically the perfect skyscraper.


+1.

Here's a high res version of the poster from a couple of years ago, when the BK was not part of the line up, though the DIFC Gate (front right) was..........

http://www.ibelieveinadv.com/commons/ftcityscape.jpg

look at the bottom part of ESB and CB, i call it "fat ass":lol:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/398089253_a716112ae8_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/silyld/398089253/in/photostream/

These pictures from Boston are realy amazing.

PETRONAS TWIN TOWER INSPIRATION

http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/frm_inspire_hi?OpenFrameset

Designing An Architectural Icon

The PETRONAS Twin Towers was designed by Cesar Pelli & Associates (USA) in association with KLCC architects.

The tower's floor plate design is based on simple Islamic geometric forms of two interlocking squares creating a shape of eight-pointed stars. Upon the eight-pointed stars, are eight superimposed semi-circles softening the inner angles.

These semicircles are themselves anchored by the arcs of the main structural columns of the buildings. The semi-circles were superimposed in the inner angles of the interlocked squares to create more usable floor space.

The design details continued to dictate the way in which the buildings would rise in as graceful a fashion as possible. To maintain the vertical axis and tapering of the design, each tower is set back five times in its ascent.

Architecturally, these forms reflect the paramount Islamic principles of "unity within unity, harmony, stability and rationality."

At the uppermost floors, the walls are gently sloped inward to taper and contribute visually to the height and the elegant form of horizontal silver ribbons of stainless steel.

Every aspect of the design contributes to the audacious verticality of the Towers. The decision to symmetrically align the Twin Towers and connect them with a spanning bridge emphasised the classical nature of the architectural design.

The writings of Lao Tse, the ancient philosopher and founder of Taoism in China, tell that the reality of a hollow object is in the void and not in the walls. Cesar Pelli, architect of the Towers, has drawn upon the strength of the void between the buildings -- delineating an invisible axis of symmetry. For the architect, it is this void that gives the PETRONAS Twin Towers their sense of grandeur and unique identity.


See:
Intelligent Building (http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/Src/WebDoc*Intelligent/?Open)
A Polished Façade (http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/Src/WebDoc*Polished/?Open)
The Pinnacles (http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/Src/WebDoc*Pinnacles/?Open)
The Interior (http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/Src/WebDoc*Interior+Design/?Open)
The Double Decked Skybridge (http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/Src/WebDoc*Doubledeck/?Open)
The Elevator System (http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/Src/WebDoc*Elevator/?Open)

http://www.petronastwintowers.com.my/internet/pett/pettweb.nsf/c1e5928ed61f965d872565230075c96f/d9213d9c97455fe04825700600117368/DocBody/0.C8C?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/5122694559_f2b804268e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39818518@N05/5122694559/)
Kuala Lumpur-077959 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39818518@N05/5122694559/) by m.ightymo (http://www.flickr.com/people/39818518@N05/), on Flickr


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4655670702_5a57cccf97_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/opzjon/4655670702/)
Architecture Outside the Petronas Twin Towers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/opzjon/4655670702/) by opzjon (http://www.flickr.com/people/opzjon/), on Flickr


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1015/1083866112_d38d38b4b7_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rags1969/1083866112/)
UFO :-) Not Really. Twin Towers Entry Point (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rags1969/1083866112/) by Ragstatic (http://www.flickr.com/people/rags1969/), on Flickr


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1056/4605733857_9259906439_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41459152@N07/4605733857/)
Swirls (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41459152@N07/4605733857/) by SayaNadiah (http://www.flickr.com/people/41459152@N07/), on Flickr


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3515186683_82f2fa2f8a_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drade388/3515186683/)
KLCC insights (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drade388/3515186683/) by drade388 (http://www.flickr.com/people/drade388/), on Flickr


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3523/3810529219_6f9760f20b_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabineinsingapore/3810529219/)
Petronas through the roof (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabineinsingapore/3810529219/) by sabine_in_singapore (http://www.flickr.com/people/sabineinsingapore/), on Flickr