beautiful photo,last is my Favorite

just enough JRQ, i strightly stand with my opinion,dont blame me create accusations,i already boring with u..when CB voter said petronas is ugly,u just silent without anything to say,when they say petronas is shit,u said atleast they dont attack personal ,when i said f**k,u say im rude,then when i said ugly,u said i dont respect people,when i asking a question,u blame me demand,

common..i can see how is childish now.dasar mat saleh pilih bulu!

People can look back throughout my posts, then through yours. I always call Petronas Towers beautiful, especially that one photo from off in the distance with Petronas rising up....it was gorgeous, and I mean that.
I simply refuse to let your comments slip by; and as long as you continue to act like you have throughout this competition, I will continuously point you out.

And I don't find myself to be pious at all: nor do I show favoritism. Check my previous Chrysler vote: I voted for the Burj Khalifa / Burj Dubai Tower instead. My record stands, whereas yours does not.

Btw, thank you for your compliments on the photos; I appreciate them.

http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx276/afiqnadzir/5310506977_be46c36573_b.jpg

I always call Petronas Towers beautiful, especially that one photo from off in the distance with Petronas rising up....it was gorgeous, and I mean that.
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that good taste!:cheers:

http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx276/afiqnadzir/4206104152_c4bc15a4f0_o.jpg

http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx276/afiqnadzir/259540634_5d17c645c5_b.jpg

^^ wow that last golden one is simply stunning.

Great pictures of the Petronas towers

http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%C7%C7k%CB%B9%BB%F9/pic/item/da8bf6e7d9dbfaadb3fb9550.jpg
It's so beautiful,I will vote for Chrysler!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6022/5941415143_2b1e58ae1d_b.jpg


While the Petronas Towers stick out, the Chrysler building fits in almost perfectly with the skyline. That's the difference in my opinion.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2585/5741604352_1ca50b3b84_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wittysam/5741604352/)
PETRONAS TWIN TOWERS IMG_4262 AWFJ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wittysam/5741604352/) by Sundeep Bhardwaj Kullu Himachal 50+ Countries 200+ (http://www.flickr.com/people/wittysam/), on Flickr

And the Chrysler Building has taken the lead! :banana:

^^ By you creating a fake profile???


A minimum number of posts, or minimum length of membership is something that should be considered to be eligible to vote. :ohno:

^^ By you creating a fake profile???


A minimum number of posts, or minimum length of membership is something that should be considered to be eligible to vote. :ohno:

:nono: new profile =/= fake profile

EDIT: Yes I recently joined, but I recently found out about this place. Yes I am a n00b, but I'm not cheating/faking.

When this contest is closed I'll run a couple of scripts on the voting database to weed out ghost votes, multiple accounts and other issues. Hence whoever leads after the close might not be declared the eventual winner. If the vote is tied, my vote will be decisive.

When this contest is closed I'll run a couple of scripts on the voting database to weed out ghost votes, multiple accounts and other issues. Hence whoever leads after the close might not be declared the eventual winner. If the vote is tied, my vote will be decisive.

Excellent news! :cheers:

When this contest is closed I'll run a couple of scripts on the voting database to weed out ghost votes, multiple accounts and other issues. Hence whoever leads after the close might not be declared the eventual winner. If the vote is tied, my vote will be decisive.

this is great because in throwing only the names in a character counter i already get wrong numbers =/ kinda sucks that some people just cannot play fair

It happens to all towers which are losing. Sadly the Chrysler can't seem to win this without a few cheats.

hahaha..jonh hancock?chrysler?then u want to blame for petronas voter..?please...john hancock is the ugliest supertall,cant u see that?
http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx276/afiqnadzir/john-hanock-center.jpg

John Hancock is awesome!
I can name alot of other supertalls which are by far uglier...

this is great because in throwing only the names in a character counter i already get wrong numbers =/ kinda sucks that some people just cannot play fair


^^Me to. It's been like that for already a couple of days. Good to know that Jan took notice of it.

^^It certainly is good, but don't forget, cheating has been a major part of this competition from the beginning, so it's really no surprise the final has had a bit, I've been surprised there's been so little.

Creating another profile just for voting this is so stupid.

Petronas wins against Chrysler (although CB is a great landmark) hands down.

Petronas Towers are beautiful and of impressive height,
but yet I think the chrysler building has got more beauty in it. More elegance.

Its smaller, but of timeless perfection. My vote for the Chrysler Building :)

Creating another profile just for voting this is so stupid.

Petronas wins against Chrysler (although CB is a great landmark) hands down.

Sadly, it seems a lot of people have done this :ohno:

^^It certainly is good, but don't forget, cheating has been a major part of this competition from the beginning, so it's really no surprise the final has had a bit, I've been surprised there's been so little.

The cheat amount in this finale seems to be minimum. And this is SSC 1st Supertall Tall World Cup. Errors are meant to happen. Lets hope for a better tournament next time. Hope it doesn't effect the final counting. I won't be happy if my choice won because of cheating. To me, both tower deserve to be a winner.

When will the competition end?

i think it ends today in about 3 hours? maybe another day not sure

i think it ends today in about 3 hours? maybe another day not sure

it varies according to your timezone. Voting starts at 0h and finished 0h seven days later, local time.

^ it actually ends for everyone 7 days after the start of the vote at midnight Pacific time, which is in about 6 hours from now.

As this one nears the end, I just researched the votes. I just deleted 18 votes for Petronas as I can trace these back 100% to multiple accounts. These accounts have been banned as well.

Jan, thank you very much for the extra work you do to keep this competition fair.

Just one last time, is it possible for future competitions to have equal quality images?

ie, images should show the complete tower from similar angles? I know its possible, i just hope it gets reinforced. I understand its not a photo competition, i'm not asking for one. I just hope to get a good impression of the towers when i click to see which towers are up for competition.

I also understand that we must 'KNOW' the tower before we vote for them. Its because i know some of the towers which annoys me when images are unjust to them.

The first way to stamp out cheating is to be fair with the images displayed.

^ it actually ends for everyone 7 days after the start of the vote at midnight Pacific time, which is in about 6 hours from now.

As this one nears the end, I just researched the votes. I just deleted 18 votes for Petronas as I can trace these back 100% to multiple accounts. These accounts have been banned as well.

There are no fake votes for Chrysler? That would be unbelievable.

I bet there is.

^Then wouldn't it be unfair to only remove fake votes for Petronas?

Hopefully Jan will do a total recount after the poll closes.

go malaysia!!!

vote malaysia all!!!weeeehooo!!!

^ see guys like these are a problem...

Some days ago I cleaned out a couple of votes for the Chrysler Building casted by multiple accounts. I didn't detect any of these casted in the last days. Weeding these out and being 100% sure of it is pretty time consuming.

It's always possible someone has registered a couple of accounts but the level at which I check now under normal circumstances these votes wouldn't make a difference. These are not normal circumstances though. There really is an even split between the two.

I will do a final check and recount when the voting is done.

my vote counts ok!

hidan!! cepat vote la!

not fair to delete those 18 votes ;(..but dont care, hope my vote counts!!dont delete my vote yah!!

go malaysia!!!


PTT should be the winner with the fantastic design

wow! just to vote ur fav building, u guys cheat??so not cool!

^ see, signing up with an IP address which range has already been abused for vote rigging just to vote in the contest is not very cool.

not fair to delete those 18 votes ;(..but dont care, hope my vote counts!!dont delete my vote yah!!

it must be u royaziz!
u spoil the game!
heh!

^ same goes for you as well.

guys..show your support to PTT by voting

^^ By you creating a fake profile???


A minimum number of posts, or minimum length of membership is something that should be considered to be eligible to vote. :ohno:

So yeah, all those cheaters are voting for the Petronas Towers! Who would of thought? :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

^ you need at least 6 votes to be able to vote

So Jan, Are there that many fake votes in the last round? Do we know who's taking the trophy home yet?
Thanks :)

The semi finals had far more fake votes, but as I banned all accounts involved, it seems vote rigging has been a lot less in the finals. Votes casted now can be traced back to unique accounts using unique IP's. I'm really trying to keep this as fair as we can because the moment people suspect it isn't, that would kill the whole idea. And it's too much fun for that! :)

I agree with you :) thanks for replying.
Greetings.

Jan could you edit your very first post in this thread to include a link to the latest voting round, as it is very difficult to navigate through the thread. Ideally, also links to the previous voting round showing the winners would be great too. Thanks

vote for PTT, yeah!!!

The semi finals had far more fake votes, but as I banned all accounts involved, it seems vote rigging has been a lot less in the finals. Votes casted now can be traced back to unique accounts using unique IP's. I'm really trying to keep this as fair as we can because the moment people suspect it isn't, that would kill the whole idea. And it's too much fun for that! :)

I really don't understand the thinking behind cheating in a contest like this - the results don't matter in any material sense, and unless the contest is fair they don't even mean anything.

I guess I have mostly the same tastes as the other posters here, though, since it became harder and harder to decide each round.

congratulations Chrysler :D

Yes! Chrysler did it! Congrats :)

I'm so pleased, The oldest supertall, the grandmother of all the others, beats them all. Still my personal favourite.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to attack this sit because of ptt loss. Let's just hope that just remains an unfounded thought of mine. Anyhow, congrat Chrysler. You earned it.

so apparently people think the nicest building of 2011 is one of the smallest and oldest ones that entered the contest. that's why we can't have nice things, i'm fairly disappointed, but i accept your choice since my favorite building got second place which i never thought would have happened :cheers: now we still need to see who will be third place though

Well done everyone. :) Good game, good game.

I hope there will be a new contest next year. It will be interesting to see the difference with all the new skyscrapers by that time.

Anyway, congratulations to Chrysler Building and thank you to the mods that organized everything!:applause:

♪ WE, ARE THE CHAMPIONS, MY FRIEND ♫

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Dedicated to the Chrysler Building - still the most impressive skyscraper of our time!

so apparently people think the nicest building of 2011 is one of the smallest and oldest ones that entered the contest.

Eh not really. Almost half does not. ;)

Anyway congrats to the Chrysler Building. My favorite by far was Bank of China Tower.

Weird, eventhougth final oledi end, but the votes at semifinal still changing, ie PTT leads ESB from 8 few days ago to 12 yesterday and now is 13!!!
http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=oneonone&do=archive

anyway, Congratulations to the Champion CB, HOORAY!!! :banana::banana::banana:

look at our CHAMPION whole building, proportion so balance, wat can i say, simply AMAZING, juz WONDERFULLLLL !!!:lol::lol::lol:
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2287/ndpzjtia.jpg

Congratulations to the Chrysler Building and many thanks to Jan for weeding out the fake votes. :)

http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=tournament&var=1

i still think Taipei 101 deserves the title....but CB is the most deserving of all the contestants and still one of my favs congrats CB :]

Congratulations Chrysler! :)

http://www.ralphmag.org/BS/chrysler-bldg-cov347x492.gif
http://www.ralphmag.org/BS/chrysler-bldg-cov347x492.gif

http://www.jpegwallpapers.com/images/wallpapers/Chrysler-building-296507.jpeg
http://www.jpegwallpapers.com/images/wallpapers/Chrysler-building-296507.jpeg

http://ih2.redbubble.net/work.1010357.32.flat,550x550,075,f.chrysler-building.jpg
http://ih2.redbubble.net/work.1010357.32.flat,550x550,075,f.chrysler-building.jpg

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq75/welshm8y/ChryslerBuilding.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq75/welshm8y/ChryslerBuilding.jpg

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Congratulations to the Chrysler Building and many thanks to Jan for weeding out the fake votes. :)

Indeed, congratulations and thanks are due to Chrysler and Jan. :). But there really was never a loser in this competition. So many awsome buildings were nominated, it was sad to see some of them loose out. But then again, the winners were/are also very good and beautiful designs.

It ended with 2 of the 4 favorite buildings of mine in the final. And it is so close in the end, that we actually can say we have 2 winners and for sure no losers.

But, by the numbers Chrysler has won, so again, congratulations are in place, even though I voted Petronas because of their significane to the country they are build in where Chrysler was outdone (in height) by the ESB about 1 year after is was completed.

Still I can live with this result very comfortably. ;).

I thought the acceptance speech was bit over-the-top, myself.

"First off, I'd like to thank all my friends and family for their support. I wouldn't be here tonight without you."

"To Mr. Van Allen, my designer, and to the Chrysler Corporation for commissioning my existence... This is for you! A big shout out, also, to the hundreds of construction workers, engineers and support laborers who put me together.

"To New York city, The Big Apple - Big props to my hometown! I love New York! Always have, always will. Maybe now you pigeons who keep crapping on my roof will give me a bit more respect! And hey, Hollywood, how about a romantic movie where the couple wants to meet at my place rather than down the island at Empire State?! Listen to the president and spread the wealth, will ya?!

"I would like to tell the Petronas Towers they did a great job. I was honored to be recognized alongside such noble structures, and I certainly don't think all that steel cladding is cold and sterile. Best of luck to you in your future ventures, and may we cross paths again someday.

"Thank you, everyone! You like me! You really, really like me!" *sniff*

:) good humor is always good ;) Improved my mood even though I voted for petronas :cheers:

congratulation chrysler!

next time winner contest
-empire state building
-trump chicago
-wilis tower
-wall street tower
-one world trade
-beekman tower
AMERICA FOREVER!

congratulation chrysler!

next time winner contest
-empire state building
-trump chicago
-wilis tower
-wall street tower
-one world trade
-beekman tower
AMERICA FOREVER!

Please stop.

y?i just love america building,sometimes
its classy,sometimes look modern n very iconic,and im pretty sure that WTC will be in final,go america!

^^ Aren't you the one who said every building in America is overrated? :crazy:

i change my mind,peace bro..

Actually the plan is to coincide these with the international football tournaments, so the next World Cup will be summer 2014. In between we'll do continental cups to coincide with their respective cups. Europe is up next summer. :)

In addition to the continental cups, there should be a 2 "futures" tournaments, one for buildings under construction and one for proposals; also a "bust" tournament of buildings that never were built (Chicago Spire comes to mind) would be cool.

congratulation chrysler!

next time winner contest
-empire state building
-trump chicago
-wilis tower
-wall street tower
-one world trade
-beekman tower
AMERICA FOREVER!

We can only hope :)

In addition to the continental cups, there should be a 2 "futures" tournaments, one for buildings under construction and one for proposals; also a "bust" tournament of buildings that never were built (Chicago Spire comes to mind) would be cool.

I thought about this today too. I reminded myself Russian Tower, IMO most beautiful never build tower.

Chrysler and Empire are ugly.
I am sorry -_-

old boxes
you sent new buildings in a basket, but you have advanced their buildings...

you sent new buildings in a basket, but you have advanced their buildings...
I have no idea what that means.

This is your problem... ;)

maybe he try to say so many good new building at the beggining,at last they pick the older one

I wanted to say it, yes ;)

First, I want to say congratulations to the beautiful Petronas Towers. Totally deserving to be in the Final Round, and two of the most gorgeous towers ever built:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5078/5873505368_2b84b53023_b.jpg

Second, good job Chrysler :) Still looking great 80 years later:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/5191363840_45e99fdc6e_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6022/5941415143_2b1e58ae1d_b.jpg

Chrysler and Empire are ugly.
I am sorry -_-

old boxes
you sent new buildings in a basket, but you have advanced their buildings...

That is your opinion.

Chrysler and ESB are elegant, beautiful, and forever symbolize the skyscraper.

That is my opinion, and with Chrysler having won, I can safely assume others agree with it.

It is so close!

Congrats Chrysler.

So in the next Supertalls World Cup, will Chrysler even be allowed in, having won and everything?

Chrysler and ESB are elegant, beautiful, and forever symbolize the skyscraper.


But, COC, ICC, SWFC, PT - all ugly? And the Empire and Chrysler are beautiful?

He did not call anything ugly. Do you have trouble reading?

no guys, I saw your voting against COC.
I was very sad.

But, COC, ICC, SWFC, PT - all ugly? And the Empire and Chrysler are beautiful?

Buildings being beautiful is not mutually exclusive, but some buildings are prettier than others. You have to deal with that instead of putting words in his mouth. He never called those buildings ugly. Voting against them is not the same as calling them ugly. It seems that you just can't handle defeat, huh?:ohno: :ohno:

I guess, for what has been arranged this competition - to win ESB or CB.

I'm sorry guys, but it is so...

sore losers are pretty annoying. My favorite didn't win either, so that means more people prefer a different building. Is that really something to get upset over? People having a different opinion is perfectly fine.

I guess, for what has been arranged this competition - to win ESB or CB.

I'm sorry guys, but it is so...

You're right. The admins on this site pre-organized the brackets so that the ESB and Chrysler buildings would have an easy path to the finals, and then whenever they were in trouble and may not win, tampered with the voting. In some cases even to the extent to make it look close just so people wouldn't suspect anything. And they did all this not for financial gain because they assume anonymity being that it's an online tournament, but instead so that two buildings could be finalists in an online skyscraper tournament. It's genius.

You're right. The admins on this site pre-organized the brackets so that the ESB and Chrysler buildings would have an easy path to the finals, and then whenever they were in trouble and may not win, tampered with the voting. In some cases even to the extent to make it look close just so people wouldn't suspect anything. And they did all this not for financial gain because they assume anonymity being that it's an online tournament, but instead so that two buildings could be finalists in an online skyscraper tournament. It's genius.
This is a hilarious post! I rarely compliment Yankee fans, better hope no one sees, can't ruin my reputation.

You're right. The admins on this site pre-organized the brackets so that the ESB and Chrysler buildings would have an easy path to the finals, and then whenever they were in trouble and may not win, tampered with the voting. In some cases even to the extent to make it look close just so people wouldn't suspect anything. And they did all this not for financial gain because they assume anonymity being that it's an online tournament, but instead so that two buildings could be finalists in an online skyscraper tournament. It's genius.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4669812732_5407c2534c.jpg

He's being sarcastic...

He's being sarcastic...

I was definitely being sarcastic, and don't worry I won't spread the word around of your support too much. :)

I was definitely being sarcastic, and don't worry I won't spread the word around of your support too much. :)

:lol:That's what I thought, but there are some people being just as unreasonable and ridiculous as you were pretending to be on this thread *cough* evrasia *cough*

The voting has closed, although it was still possible to vote through the archive pages. I took that one offline for the moment. Final score is Chrysler 949 - 946 Petronas. There are a couple of incidents involving multiple accounts I want to look at since the margin is so thin, but most of these concern Petronas so it seems that Chrysler is the winner. :)

I vote for Petronas so I guest that makes me a loser, again.

If one would argue both are winners, I wouldn't disagree. :)

For me Petronas will always be the winner, no matter the poll.

For me, the winner will always be the Empire State Building. I remember driving up to NYC as a kid, with the view of the huge clutter of buildings from the turnpike, except for one building stsanding tall above the rest, the beautifully illuminated ESB. It was the pinnacle of NYC, with the red, white, and blue lighting at night, dwarfing everything else. It was a truly magical view. :)

^^ Yeah, but art deco is not my cup of tea to be honest, but I admire ESB as it redefined the meaning of skyscraper forever. But we need to get over it, just like with Chrysler.

Best regards from Prague (which is great example of beautiful city without a supertall :) )

We need to get over what? Anyway ESB is my third favorite building. Behind 1WTC and Taipei 101.

I hoped the Willis Tower would win.

Btw, I still hope for a ESB-BK duel for the copper medal :dunno:

Im pretty sure Chrysler building deserve to win over petronas, but Petronas does not deserve to be in the finals, ESB will be a better contestant

Woo hoo! Victory!!! Yes!!

Congratulations Chrysler! That was a match-up for the ages.

Some of my future ideas for these contests include...
-City with the best 2nd tallest building
-2000's Cup
-Best Architectural Style
-Best Hotel tower (interested to see that Macau building battle it out with Vegas)
-Best "specific business cluster" such as La Defense, IBC, Canary Wharf, etc (Pudong and the new Guangzhou one are probably tops right now)
-Best Bridge
-Best observation tower
-Most futuristic skyline
-Best skyline transformation since 2000

Would like to see a thread similar to "London vs Frankfurt", but pitting Australian skylines against Canadian skylines (maybe just top 4, Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane/Perth or GC vs Toronto/Calgary/Montreal/Vancouver) Would be cool because I always felt like those 2 countries had similar sizes and relatively even skylines.

Also single questions such as "height vs density"

Ok that's it, just brainstorming here but I have somewhere to be so time to stop!

http://blacknuba.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/chrysler20building.jpg

For me, the first and best skyscraper

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1909/2348237280215589767aout6.jpg

I think Canada vs Australia is a very cool idea! And I don't think there are enough Canadians or Australians on here to mess with the results :)

I congratulate all Chrysler supporters for your "sportsmanship" win despite the narrow margin.

Overall, it was a good fight between Chrysler and Petronas, but only 1 can be a winner today. We therefore accept the win by Chrysler!

As a Petronas voter and a Malaysian, we once again would like to THANK all our supporters from all around the world, forumers from Asia and my co-forumers from SSC Malaysia. You guys are AWESOME....

Chrysler and Petronas are clearly the best skyscrapers around

I vote for Petronas because it beat ESB. and ESB better than the Chrsyler building.

When can we expect a banner with the Chrysler Building?:)

I voted for the Petronas Towers in the final competition, but the Chrysler Building also deserve this title and it got my vote in all previous rounds. Congratulations :drunk:!

949 - 946 Chrysler won? :wtf: It have just 3 votes more than PTT :cry:

Well, I did vote for Chrysler, too. :D

Is it already a winner? CONGRATULATIONS! :cheer:

I would't mind if PTT did it successfully, too... :)

I voted for petronas...:ohno: :cry:

But i voted for Chrysler also in the previous rounds....:)

Both buildings are incredible....

CoNgRaTuLaTiOnS Chrysler........

If one would argue both are winners, I wouldn't disagree. :)

Both are winners... :happy: ;)

Sydney vs Melbourne, general architecture pick out 10 best buildings and pit them against eachother.

the OG won

Sydney vs Melbourne, general architecture pick out 10 best buildings and pit them against eachother.

They could turn this into a round of 32 by adding towers in like Q1, Soul, Soleil, BHP, Central Park, Bankwest... That would make a good competition for best Australian Skyscraper.

Syney vs Melbourne sounds good, if the Frankfurt vs London works, we'll do that one next.

1) one on one first high-rise of each city.
2) one on one Latin American metropolis, ej. SP vs MC
3) one on one most bizarre buildings and structures
4) one on one art-decó buildings

Just some thoughts :)

1) one on one first high-rise of each city.
2) one on one Latin American metropolis, ej. SP vs MC
3) one on one most bizarre buildings and structures
4) one on one art-decó buildings

Just some thoughts :)

One on one TV towers. ;)

Please do a skyline vs. skyline world cup....pls pls pls

Please do a skyline vs. skyline world cup....pls pls pls

Yes! That would be awesome!

For me Petronas will always be the winner, no matter the poll.
absolutely, there isn't a loser here:banana:

^^ Yeah, but art deco is not my cup of tea to be honest, but I admire ESB as it redefined the meaning of skyscraper forever. But we need to get over it, just like with Chrysler.

Best regards from Prague (which is great example of beautiful city without a supertall :) )

what are you trying to say? because it's old it isnt beautiful any more? :ohno:you are from Europe and think old stuff isn't beautiful ???? and say Prague is beautiful which I am sure it is but it sure is old...............and what the heck does "But we need to get over it" what do you really mean with this bizarre statement? get over WHAT? i think you need to get over yourself, frankly, or have less of these:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

3 votes. That was pretty close. Good to see my Chrysler Building vote was worth the effort. Though Petronas Towers are an awesome piece of late 20th century architecture, that i have always liked too.

They could turn this into a round of 32 by adding towers in like Q1, Soul, Soleil, BHP, Central Park, Bankwest... That would make a good competition for best Australian Skyscraper.

Interesting. I can imagine something like this happening.

Good suggestions guys, thanks. Last week I set up a tournamenmt with the 32 supertalls under construction. Right now I'm setting up a Country Cup where the tallest building in each country go one on one.

We'll sure do a skyline world cup, but the problem is that you want some good criteria to rank them. For a skyline cup, we'll probably use the Rate Our Skylines ranking, lining up the cities with the 64 heighest averages.

well i think its pretty clear that the petronas are going to win the country cup :P

Syney vs Melbourne sounds good, if the Frankfurt vs London works, we'll do that one next.

Awesome, could you run more than one comp at one, or is that to hard?

Melbourne,

- Flinders St Station
- Eureka Tower
- Southern Cross Station
- Royal Exhibition Building
- Arts Centre
- AAMI Park
- MCG
- Shrine of Remembrance
- Federation Square
- State Parliament
- Melbourne Museum
- Rialto Building (old)
- Manchester Unity Building
- Former Melbourne Magistrates Court
- St Patrick's Cathedral
- 101 Collins St
- Original Myer Building
- Pentridge Prison

That's a big list to choose from.

Awesome, could you run more than one comp at one, or is that to hard?

There is only one matchup at the time, but as you need a few days in between rounds, it's possible to run multiple tournaments, as we do now.

Sydney vs. Melbourne would be the top 8 buildings by height of both cities.

There is only one matchup at the time, but as you need a few days in between rounds, it's possible to run multiple tournaments, as we do now.

Sydney vs. Melbourne would be the top 8 buildings by height of both cities.

Still think you should consider the rest of Australia with this one, with a 32 building bracket. :cheers:

Still think you should consider the rest of Australia with this one, with a 32 building bracket. :cheers:

The rivalry between the two is almost the biggest in the world.

^^I'm reliably informed that the statewide rivalry between Queensland and New South Wales is quite a bit more ferocious than the citywide rivalry between Sydney and Melbourne.

^^I'm reliably informed that the statewide rivalry between Queensland and New South Wales is quite a bit more ferocious than the citywide rivalry between Sydney and Melbourne.

Nup, ever since they were choosing a capital it's been enormous. And then even in 1900's it was Protectionism vs Free trade(vic vs nsw) It's crazy the power struggle the states had.

Good suggestions guys, thanks. Last week I set up a tournamenmt with the 32 supertalls under construction. Right now I'm setting up a Country Cup where the tallest building in each country go one on one.

We'll sure do a skyline world cup, but the problem is that you want some good criteria to rank them. For a skyline cup, we'll probably use the Rate Our Skylines ranking, lining up the cities with the 64 heighest averages.

OMG! Awesome suggestion!
The seedings and draws shall be based on the highest averages as well.
I'm soooo gonna vote!
Thanks!! :cheers:

Very disappointing to not have a Chrysler banner.

Nup, ever since they were choosing a capital it's been enormous. And then even in 1900's it was Protectionism vs Free trade(vic vs nsw) It's crazy the power struggle the states had.

Yeah, had, past tense. In sports, which is the main source of most rivalries these days, QLD v NSW is the big one, or at least so my Central Coast dwelling friend tells me. You don't need to tell me about the past.

Yeah, had, past tense. In sports, which is the main source of most rivalries these days, QLD v NSW is the big one, or at least so my Central Coast dwelling friend tells me. You don't need to tell me about the past.

Trust me Melbourne vs Sydney is the biggest rivalry.

Good suggestions guys, thanks. Last week I set up a tournamenmt with the 32 supertalls under construction. Right now I'm setting up a Country Cup where the tallest building in each country go one on one.

We'll sure do a skyline world cup, but the problem is that you want some good criteria to rank them. For a skyline cup, we'll probably use the Rate Our Skylines ranking, lining up the cities with the 64 heighest averages.


Since you mentioned of a cup, shouldn't there be a symbolic trophy designed by SSC to honor the winning country, city or building that should be attached for a whole year to say, a skyline or building thread here of the winner?

Well done Chrysler. To beat modern classics like the Bank of China, Shanghai World Financial Center, Burj Khalifa and Petronas Towers on the trot, shows that the elegant art deco classic still exerts huge appeal for us skyscraper fans. :)

Fail........

Fail........

What are you referencing?

What are you referencing?

Well he's from Dubai, what do you think? ;)

Trust me Melbourne vs Sydney is the biggest rivalry.

If you say so. You'd know more than I. I assumed that was the case before recently, but my friend insisted that some rugby thing recently between NSW and QLD was 'the big one'.

Well he's from Dubai, what do you think? ;)

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt before they say things. :) lol

http://blacknuba.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/chrysler20building.jpg

For me, the first and best skyscraper

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1909/2348237280215589767aout6.jpg

:rock: :rock: :rock:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/5933908079_f1bc4af25d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumn8tion/5933908079/)
Gotham City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumn8tion/5933908079/) by Lumn8tion (http://www.flickr.com/people/lumn8tion/), on Flickr

Fail........I know, BK does fail!

I know, BK does fail!

Really,, My Bad.... :lol:

All the best !!!
keep it up.............

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Just wanted to ask why we don't have the iconic Hancock Center in Cup of 70s, when saw that the building was toped in 1968. I was convinced that it was build in 70s. :D
Shame on me. :bowtie:

PTT is my favourite skyscraper. Still, congrats to Chrysler for winning the competition. I prefer Chrysler than ESB to be honest.

I'd like to see Detroit's Renaissance Center in the 70s cup.

im still waiting for a place three one on one for the supertalls cup :)

I'd like to see Detroit's Renaissance Center in the 70s cup.

Well, it's not tall enough I'm afraid. If it was expanded to the top 32 it'd be in there.

For the upcoming Construction Cup, I consider it very unfair that Shanghai Tower and Freedom Tower will meet already in the second round of the preliminary rounds. I request that the starting bracket should change, because the one we have now is an insult to the Shanghai Tower.

I say this because I know Freedom Tower will get more votes than Shanghai Tower.

For the upcoming Construction Cup, I consider it very unfair that Shanghai Tower and Freedom Tower will meet already in the second round of the preliminary rounds. I request that the starting bracket should change, because the one we have now is an insult to the Shanghai Tower.

I say this because I know Freedom Tower will get more votes than Shanghai Tower.

:cripes: You are going to say its unfair whenever shanghai tower meets something that gets more votes. And they would meet in the third round

:cripes: You are going to say its unfair whenever shanghai tower meets something that gets more votes. And they would meet in the third round
Yes, third round, my mistake. But its still too early on.

Shanghai Tower is the most favourited supertall project on this forum, and it has more votes than Freedom Tower in the "Favourite Supertall" thread. However, when they meet already in the third round, Freedom Tower will win because there are more Americans on this forum. And if Shanghai Tower wins, the Americans will accuse the Asians for making fake accounts and Freedom Tower will win anyway.

Just my theory. And in my opinion we could avoid these troubling negotiations during the cup if the starting bracket changed a bit and put Shanghai Tower and Freedom Tower a bit more aside from each other.

Yes, third round, my mistake. But its still too early on.

Shanghai Tower is the most favourited supertall project on this forum, and it has more votes than Freedom Tower in the "Favourite Supertall" thread. However, when they meet already in the third round, Freedom Tower will win because there are more Americans on this forum. And if Shanghai Tower wins, the Americans will accuse the Asians for making fake accounts and Freedom Tower will win anyway.

:ohno:

You mean your hypothesis. A theory means it's time-tested and correct, which it is not.

I would think there are more Asians prowling SSC than any other group. So for you to automatically assume that really isn't valid. You know, it's not even worth arguing about....I'll get accused of "finger pointing."

Shanghai Tower is the most favourited supertall project on this forum, and it has more votes than Freedom Tower in the "Favourite Supertall" thread. However, when they meet already in the third round, Freedom Tower will win because there are more Americans on this forum. And if Shanghai Tower wins, the Americans will accuse the Asians for making fake accounts and Freedom Tower will win anyway.

Accusations of fake accounts doesn't immediately make the other tower win. Only if it turns out to be true when Jan checks might it mean that, and there'd still need to be enough of them to lower the score a long way.

I would say also that there are probably more asians on here than americans, simply because there are way way more of them in the world.

Time will tell, my brothers.

I still stand by my request. Whether the mods will ignore it or not is up to them.

No seeding system may seem perfect, but I believe this is the most objective one.

I know I'm voting for 1WTC. it's my favorite building hands down.

Seeing the Frankfurt vs London competition it has become pretty clear now that the quality of pictures does have a mayor influence on the outcome (as well as some bias of course :tongue3: ).

I still think it would be better if we choose another system of voting, we should try to line up all of the major skyscrapers that have been in preliminary rounds and everyone would vote for his favourite, because this type of wimbledon voting can wipe out really beautiful skyscrapers just because it is not in NY. That´s my opinion, please consider it before insulting me. :nuts:

^^Agreed, I would hate to see Shanghai Tower not reach the finals just because it has to meet Freedom Tower in the preliminary rounds. Most of us know that Shanghai Tower is better from an architecutal point of view, but you know.... its Freedom Tower and the only thing this voting system will prove is that there are more Americans on this forum. Please don't bash on me for saying this.

you cant really say that you "know" its the best architecturally lol..its deffinitaly one of the best and i think it and WTC 1 should be in finals together though.

some suggestions for future competition: having preliminary rounds for countries that have so many skyscrapers (i.e. China, UAE just to name a few)
try matching newly-industrialized countries, it'd be kinda fair to do so.

Most of us know that Shanghai Tower is better from an architecutal point of view, but you know.... its Freedom Tower and the only thing this voting system will prove is that there are more Americans on this forum. Please don't bash on me for saying this.

Don't call you out for being incorrect? Sorry, but that request is a bit too much to ask. You need a disclaimer on all of your comments stating: merely my uninformed opinion. Most of us know what exactly? Neither you, nor I can judge a thing like that. It is completely your opinion.

I don't mind opinions, however when you try to brush it off as a clearly spoken fact, I will most assuredly call you out.

^^Its his opinion that "most of us know that Shanghai Tower is better from an architectural point of view". Prove me otherwise, or it was implied. So everyone just shut up, this thread should be closed as supertall world cup has already ended.

Most of us know that Shanghai Tower is better from an architecutal point of view

This is actually the dumbest thing I've ever seen anyone say on this website.

What? Someone elses opinion is stupid because you don´t share it? Get a life :bash:

its not his opinion that hes calling stupid. its him claiming the majority of people have the same opinion as him.

Shanghai tower is nothing more than a second rate country trying to make the world think it is more powerful than it really is.

I'm not surprised to see Americans only calling me out on the previous page. Posts like the one above me is another example of American butthurtness.

Most of us here would actually think Shanghai Tower is "better", otherwise it wouldnt be leading the spot in the "Favourite Supertall" thread. I'm sorry if I made this into a silly debate, it clearly wasn't intentional.

My intention was that I wanted to make it a more fair competition. And I dont think its fair to throw out Shanghai Tower in the preliminary rounds, which is the most favourited supertall project on this forum.

Shanghai tower is nothing more than a second rate country trying to make the world think it is more powerful than it really is.

Yeah, let's talk about first rate and second rate countries...and while we're at it let's also talk about first rate people and second rate people... :bash:

Mods...?

lets talk about debt problem in very first rated country!

how about we talk about a second rate country's currency manipulation issues.

how about we talk about a second rate country's currency manipulation issues.

you mean quantitive easing? :)

I think it's fair to remind you people that these country vs country debates tend to get accounts brigged or banned.

Shanghai tower is nothing more than a second rate country trying to make the world think it is more powerful than it really is.

I'm disappointed you would say that....If you say that about China, then no telling what you think about Burj Khalifa and the U.A.E.

For the vast majority of this thread, Americans have held their composure and been fairly unbiased, when you consider other national groups. I myself did not vote for the Chrysler building when it was placed against Burj Khalifa. I found the Burj to be more appealing to me, regardless of location. Americans aren't as egotistical and 'superior' acting as the world views us....our politicians may act that at times, but that's what politicians do.
Sort of how China is taunting their new air craft carrier, the first outside of the United States. Taiwan then promptly issues their declaration of the "aircraft carrier killer missile." Gotta love politicians, all across the globe. Point being, don't generalize Americans, and we won't generalize anyone else.

Sort of how China is taunting their new air craft carrier, the first outside of the United States. Taiwan then promptly issues their declaration of the "aircraft carrier killer missile." Gotta love politicians, all across the globe. Point being, don't generalize Americans, and we won't generalize anyone else.

I'm not sure if there is a specific feature on the new carrier which only US carriers have had previously, which may be what you are talking about, but I can tell you 100%, there are at least 9 other countries with aircraft carriers including China. Just thought I'd clear that up. Good on ya for trying to keep people in check dude.

just saying they're working with an aircraft carrier doesnt mean anything. for what ive known they've had one for 10 years and its been used as a merchant ship.

also this is a skyscraper forum not country bashing. its clear to me that divine is just trying to be a troll.

we all know shanghai tower and freedom tower are great towers lets just leave it up to the poll to see which is truly better.

I'm not sure if there is a specific feature on the new carrier which only US carriers have had previously, which may be what you are talking about, but I can tell you 100%, there are at least 9 other countries with aircraft carriers including China. Just thought I'd clear that up. Good on ya for trying to keep people in check dude.

Ha, you're very correct on the number slip. Usually I'm good at correcting people, but you caught me on a statistical error. Party Time!!!:lol:

Regardless of the number, the point is still as valid as before. I am unbiased on my decisions, as are many of my fellow American forumers. The same can be said for many Asian forumers, with the few exceptions of certain small-minded people.

We're all from the same planet, who cares what country we're from. These skyscrapers are made of the same materials. Steel and glass that was born from this earth.

Let's enjoy it

If Shanghai tower build in New York,I will choose Shanghai tower,but it's build in Shanghai,so I will vote for 1WTC.Haha!

Let's enjoy it

+1000

We're all from the same planet, who cares what country we're from. These skyscrapers are made of the same materials. Steel and glass that was born from this earth.

Let's enjoy it
Yes, I also wish everyone would think like this. However it would be naive to ignore the bitter truth. The above post by philipx is an example of how many voters are thinking.

and then divine looked at phillipx location

and then divine looked at phillipx location

Yeah, I think Phill was joking, but the point that Divine was making is equally upheld by that sarcasm as it would be if he were serious. There are many people who do think like this and it's a real problem for the world.

its not his opinion that hes calling stupid. its him claiming the majority of people have the same opinion as him.

He is suspecting it, and therefore he tells it. I share that suspicion, and it wouldn't surprise me if you are doing that too. :tongue3:

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Wasnt a member then, but cannot believe Chrysler won over Burj Khalifa..

HOLA QUE BIEN

what buildings are in the competition for the 80's cup? i hope 2 union and 1201 Third Avenue are in it. those are better than Columbia center as far as Seattle skyscrapers go.

i agree, also when you take a ride up genting, you are on the mountain looking down on the city and still see the two towers from kilometers away. its so beautiful.


Hehe I was there last year, in the bar in Traders Hotel to view the Petronas Towers, and lo and behold, I could see Genting
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/choyak/P1020965.jpg

Look to the right and snap again

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/choyak/P1020968.jpg

look at the bottom part of ESB and CB, i call it "fat ass":lol:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/398089253_a716112ae8_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/silyld/398089253/in/photostream/

FAIL OMG. The CN tower is 553 meters, the Willis tower antennae are 527 meters, thus this picture is BOGUS, the buildings are arranged by pinnacle height, which seems correct, but the CN tower should be replaced with Burj Khalifa to keep the heights intact.

Yes they were 'fat ass'. because way back then, when neither of us were born, they designed everything manually, using drafting boards (remember those?) and NY had (still has?) zoning laws to prevent humongous towers blocking sunlight, so large base and thin tower.

Question....on the right side, are they Messeturm and Commerzbank???

yeah there it is. genting, very nice place and everything was so damn cheap for me who only knew german prices before :D

Last year I went to Malaysia for 2 weeks (with friends), I NEVER visited Genting Highlands!!!!!! I DID visit many places that to me were more interesting than a gambling palace.

Chrysler and Empire are ugly.
I am sorry -_-

old boxes
you sent new buildings in a basket, but you have advanced their buildings...

Only someone from Moscow could call the Chrysler Building ugly!
I think some of the new 'scrapers in that city are just plain hideous but there you go. Actually, I really like Moscow (well, some of it) :)

I like the burj

I think the Sears tower should of beat the burj. The main excuse was because the Burj height and its new. But I think the Sears tower looks better not only by its self but its surrounding. Its the USA's icon. I really wanted to the the Sears vs Chrysler.

Indeed, like the olympic games and the World Championship soccer.

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/images/albums/userpics/10005/SignatureTower_Ext-AerialNight_%28c%29SRSSA.jpg

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/images/albums/userpics/10005/SignatureTower_Ext-Observation_%28c%29SRSSA.jpg

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/images/albums/userpics/10005/SignatureTower_Ext-BridgeAerial_%28c%29SRSSA.jpg

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/images/albums/userpics/10005/SignatureTower_Ext-ParkAerial_%28c%29SRSSA.jpg

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/class-image.php/pic.jpg?width=1000&height=800&image=/images/albums/userpics/10005/SignatureTower_Ext-PerspectiveSouth_%28c%29SRSSA.jpg

http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=M0GYftI6cgI%3d&tabid=2926&language=en-US
:cheers:

That's a nice diagram, hopefully all of them will be build by then.

That's a nice diagram, hopefully all of them will be build by then.

hoply:cheers:

JAKARTA | St. Moris Tower | 65 fl | 300m+ | App

Official web:www.thestmoritz.com

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6051/stmor.jpg

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6599/landscapebj3.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8212/stmor4.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3662/thetallesttower.jpg

u/c

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/ricola_2010/IMG02828-20111207-1752.jpg

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/ricola_2010/IMG02967-20111228-1738.jpg

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/ricola_2010/IMG02965-20111228-1737.jpg

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7233/dsc00371vd.jpg

^^ is there a thread for it?

^^ is there a thread for it?

check this out

part 1 : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=602677

part 2 : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=734226
:cheers:

It's funny how some people on this thread seem to have a lot of nationalism invested in the Burj or Petronas. They were, like the Empire State Building and the Chrysler, designed by American architects.

good prediction,that's so fun!And,good idea,I think Chrysler building is pretty good,I hope it can win.

It's funny how some people on this thread seem to have a lot of nationalism invested in the Burj or Petronas. They were, like the Empire State Building and the Chrysler, designed by American architects.

Cesar Pelli is actually Argentinian but nevermind.

Cesar Pelli is actually Argentinian but nevermind.

He holds both nationalities.

He holds both nationalities.


Which doesn't make him automatically american.

And to get to this flame war here. 1WTC looks indeed unspectacular to me when comparing it to the Shanghai Tower or Kingdom Centre. (at least on the renderings.

Everything is as expected so far, but before being able to go to the final, our Petronas Twin Towers will have to face the Empire State Building. I wonder how well they will fair. I really hope the twins will win. *crosses fingers*
Be honest the esb is far more iconic.

Be honest the esb is far more iconic.
Be honest he actually had an opinion

JAKARTA | St. Moris Tower | 65 fl | 300m+ | App

Official web:www.thestmoritz.com (http://www.thestmoritz.com)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6051/stmor.jpg

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6599/landscapebj3.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8212/stmor4.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3662/thetallesttower.jpg

u/c

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/ricola_2010/IMG02828-20111207-1752.jpg

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/ricola_2010/IMG02967-20111228-1738.jpg

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac248/ricola_2010/IMG02965-20111228-1737.jpg

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7233/dsc00371vd.jpg


WOW!!!!

Ignore those messages I wanted to vote in 1 on 1. Seriously, I think Chrysler is the most beautiful building on the planet and am so glad it beat Petronas.

I have never been on this thread before. How does it work?

Great Idea man, I really love your idea. Awesome..... :)

This contest is long over, no need to keep it open.

I think that. Supertalls World Cupx is a good world cups. The people like this game and look very interesting.Some people are like the deferment play this game. If anyone play any game his body are health and strong. Game make health and have the fresh mine of the human body.

May I ask, what kept e.g. the Shard from being in the list but allowed e.g. the Costanera Center, which I think is due to be completed later?
Costanera Center tower that barely reaches 300 meters and is considered here as

the ugly cup is weird, there are 9 towers which are really nice, i mean really how could you vote marina bay sands in there? also the title was messed up so half of the people voted wrong at least i know i did. :bash:

^^ Mercury City, Ryugyong, Burj, Gherkin, Montparnasse, Metlife, Revolution, Taipei 101, and Marina don't belong there!

Interesting design.

this is the winner in ranking
1-chrysler building new york
2-petronas twin tower kuala lumpur
3-empire state building newyork
4-burj khalifa

Why is this thread still here?

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/5d3dd726jw1dy5071mvt8j.jpg
another supertall is coming soon ;p

^^Is that Shenzhen?

Really nice, reminds me of Lakhta center (470m) in St. Petersburg.

Yes, it's known for a long time...
http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=tournament&var=1

I love the Petronas!!!

^^Is that Shenzhen?

Really nice, reminds me of Lakhta center (470m) in St. Petersburg.

Ya,it located in Shenzhen Bay,500 meters tall

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/b83d5bedgw1dz3wkir1juj.jpg

really exciting!:banana:

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810811,00.jpg

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810842,00.jpg

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810842,00.jpg

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810786,00.jpg

Great i been following skyscraper city from years i guess its a reason to register haha xD

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810811,00.jpg

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810842,00.jpg

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810842,00.jpg

http://revistacasaejardim.globo.com/Revista/Casaejardim/foto/0,,69810786,00.jpg
look like Pentominium Tower, Dubai :nuts: