We've lined up 64 of the world's supertall towers (over 300 meters) either completed, or close to completion in our first Supertall World Cup. Buildings have been seeded according to height in a tournament bracket (http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=tournament&var=1).

We'll have one matchup per day using the One on One (http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=oneonone&do=today) page, which will be open for voting for 7 days, after which the winner moves on to the next round.

The first match will be staged on Tuesday, April 19th and features the world #1 Burj Khalifa, against the #64, the Costanera Center.

It's going to be interesting to see what supertall quarter finalist comes out of the 3rd bracket. Shanghai WFC, John Hancock Center, Al Hamra Tower and Chrysler Building all would make good candidates.

#22 Bank of America Tower vs. #43 Burj Al Arab is a nice first-rounder as well. :)

My predictions for the quarter finals:

#1 Burj Khalifa vs. #24 Emirates Towers
#45 Chrysler Building vs. #12 Jin Mao Building
#3 Taipei 101 vs. #6 Petronas Towers
#58 Two Prudential Plaza vs. #18 Empire State Building

Man, this is like watching Wimbledon! I'm all excited. You're a genius Jan :okay:

Great idea!!

Chrysler building is my all time fave, I hope it'll gets the crown :happy:
Btw, great idea of supertalls competition :)

really exciting! :)

I am eager to see whether the favorites will be decided mainly on height or not.

Chrysler building is my all time fave, I hope it'll gets the crown :happy:
Btw, great idea of supertalls competition :)

Me to:)

Great idea, Jan :) I hope they will show the history ( bio :D ) of each, say, quarter final competitor :banana:

amazing tournament!!!

Great idea! Should be fun!

This is interesting.

Great idea! Shame the shard doesn't quite qualify :(

design and final height of the building Costanera Center

http://storage3d.com/storage/2009.02/350abc798a0ff5fa7113262dfd69b604.jpg

Very funny initiative!

Awesome idea! But are we missing 1 WTC and the India Tower from the list?

^ supertall is generally being defined as a building taller of 300 meter and us. Currently we have 52 of those which are completed. In order to get to 64, I added the ones that will be completed either this year or the next. One World Trade Center and the India Tower will sure be part of it the next World Cup in 2015. Im sure the top 64 will be completed by then. :cool:

Ouch so this WC is once every 4 years!

In order to get to 64, I added the ones that will be completed either this year or the next. :cool:

Spot on, gotcha! I was wondering the same thing but thought I should check anyways. Sounds fair, let the games begin! My money is still on BK, call it company loyalty for now. ;)

I hope the Chrysler building wins to but why is it going up against Jin Mao first because I really like Jin Mao it's one of my favorite supertalls in China.

I hope the Chrysler building wins to but why is it going up against Jin Mao first because I really like Jin Mao it's one of my favorite supertalls in China.

Sometimes strong competitors meet early in a tournament. That's life. :)

My favorite would be Bank of China tower in HK. Also, I really like Empire State Building. Too bad Woolworth is not high enough...

Edit: Chrysler is not gonna go up against Jin Mao first. Central Plaza is it's first competitor..

Great idea!!!! :)
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Chrysler has an unlucky seeding indeed. If it reaches the final, it possibly has to face:

round 1: Central Plaza
round 2: Al Hamra Tower
sweet 16: Shanghai WFC / Kingdom Centre / John Hancock Center
quarter finals: Jin Mao Building / Bank of China Tower
semi finals: Burj Khalifa / Willis Tower

I don't think that the Empire State Building will have problems reaching the quarter finals.

Ouch so this WC is once every 4 years!

Actually the plan is to coincide these with the international football tournaments, so the next World Cup will be summer 2014. In between we'll do continental cups to coincide with their respective cups. Europe is up next summer. :)

very cool idea i think Burj Khalifa can play its height bonus for a long time. against a charismatic structure like empire state building it will be hard though

ALSO: GO PETRONAS, my favorite building x)

HAHA...This is soo much fun. Almost as fun as predicting March Madness.

I love the concept :)

Chrysler has an unlucky seeding indeed.

Or to put it the other way around: the others are pretty unlucky having to face Chrysler. ;)

Or to put it the other way around: the others are pretty unlucky having to face Chrysler. ;)

+ 1000 Chrysler building is one of the most iconic & beautiful structures ever made.
Am all for it :cheers:

Bank of China tower all the way :D

what are the criteria we are looking for? is it just the height?or the design performance..a good hi rise building is the one which serves the best in term of users comfortability and safety..how do we know by just looking at the picture?

Awesome idea. This is like Wrestlemania.

later on this might get very interesting x)
cant wait for something like ESB vs Burj Khalifa

+ 1000 Chrysler building is one of the most iconic & beautiful structures ever made.
Am all for it :cheers:

Well honestly although I think it is absolutely astonishing it is not one of my top favorites. Those are John Hancock Center, Empire State building and Bank of China Tower. Hard to tell which of these three I like most. And then there is of course the Burj Kalifa, which though decently designed I do not find as pretty as above three, however based on it's height the most impressive. And I really like impressive buildings.

I do realize however that Chrysler Building is probably the most popular from all high rise buildings. Hence I made that remark. I am convinced Chrysler Building will win this WC, and all the WC that follow. :tongue3:

Kingkey 100 vs NE Asia Trade Tower
thats such a close call, every day i look who is ahead it goes to each side always around 50%

I voted for Kingkey, simply love it!

My favourite skyscrapers would be : 2IFC and ICC (both Hongkong) and Empire state building. 1WTC wil be the next world champion I think, it will be stunning when finished :yes:

Kingkey 100 vs NE Asia Trade Tower
thats such a close call, every day i look who is ahead it goes to each side always around 50%

It's 285 for both right now, what will happen in case of a draw?:)

Great idea btw!

Great, it's sticky now! Very nice idea :)

The first rounds are pretty easy choices for me. But the next ones are gonna be a lot tougher.

Lovin' it!

poor central plaza :(

I can't believe so many people vote for that architectual trainwreck Al Hamra Tower over the masterpiece Pearl River Tower.

poor central plaza :(

^^+1

^ supertall is generally being defined as a building taller of 300 meter and us. Currently we have 52 of those which are completed. In order to get to 64, I added the ones that will be completed either this year or the next. One World Trade Center and the India Tower will sure be part of it the next World Cup in 2015. Im sure the top 64 will be completed by then. :cool:
May I ask, what kept e.g. the Shard from being in the list but allowed e.g. the Costanera Center, which I think is due to be completed later?

Great Idea!

I love SSC so much! :grouphug:

This competition is a joke. Pearl River Tower is losing to Al Hamra... :lol:

This competition is a joke. Pearl River Tower is losing to Al Hamra... :lol:

agreed al hamra should have completed with princess tower (though al hamra would still win) at least they would be the same height

It's losing because more people like it, am I right ? I thought this is an idea of "competition" ;)

the american towers kinda have a better chance though, because there are far more aemerican than chinnese voters for example

the american towers kinda have a better chance though, because there are far more aemerican than chinnese voters for example

Well it is a competition that shows the favorite supertall of our community. If there are more americans, there is nothing unfair since they we still part of the community

the american towers kinda have a better chance though, because there are far more aemerican than chinnese voters for example

not really i think most of the americans appreciate building from around the world

no discuss, because burj kalifa will b the winner cup, loosely. :okay:

Fortunately it's not true that american supertalls have great advantage - for example Bank of America Plaza lost with Shun Hing Square and Wells Fargo Plaza is losing to Intl. Commerce Center :)

Kinkey won the first round!

If Jinmao wins first round, it will most probably face Bank of China tower, and then even if Jinmao still wins it will face ICC. :(

If Jinmao wins first round, it will most probably face Bank of China tower, and then even if Jinmao still wins it will face ICC. :(

wow that might be interesting matches :) too sad there will always chinese buildings lose, since its chinese vs chinese, i would rather see Jin Mao kick some more american buildings out xP

for the last 4 i hope for: Burj Khalifa, SWFC, Petronas, Nanjing Greenland

but realistical i think instead of Nanjing the ESB will make it (obviously), instead of SWFC the Chrysler Building (there i still have hope though), Petronas might have a hard time, but not a bad chance, and Burj Khalifa will come there easily

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+ 1

Burj Dubai , Building with most floors 160 previously World Trade Center - 110

cities that entered the contest:

Dubai 13
Hong Kong 6
Chicago 6
New York 4
Shanghai 3
Guangzhou 3
Shenzhen 3
Abu Dhabi 2
Houston 2
Kuala Lumpur 2
Wenzhou
Tianjin
Pyongyang
Wuxi
Hanoi
Wuhan
Moscow
Mecca
Taipei
Nanjing
Beijing
Bangkok
Los Angeles
Incheon
Santiago
Atlanta
Kaohsiung
Surfers Paradise
Riyadh
Kuwait

and countries

China (+HK,+TW) 23
UAE 15
USA 14
Malaysia 2
Saudi Arabia 2
North Korea
South Korea
Vietnam
Russia
Thailand
Chile
Australia
Kuwait

This wonderful game reminds me the challenge draw that takes place in www.atptennis.com where competitors (worldwide users) predict the draw by picking on their favorite players to win matches at every stage up to the final on any of the tennis master 1000 tournaments of the atp world tour. Im participating there too, and now, im pleased to participate here!!! Congratulations for one of the best iniciatives i`ve ever seen in SSC !

GO Burj Khalifa, Empire State, Chrysler, SWFC, you are among my favorites to win !

Great effort! Your comment system is a somewhat buggy though, it doesn't always take submissions.

This thred is EPIC :cheers:

Wow excited to see after see your posts on WC. But as i am new may i know which WC you people are talking about?

I cant believe Leaptop plaza is loosing to petronas :(

SWFC vs John Hancock, interesting.. :cheers:

Good idea! Moscow is! ;)

SWFC vs John Hancock, interesting.. :cheers:

GO SWFC :)

jin mao vs BOC, damn! hope BOC wins! :cheers2:

jin mao vs BOC, damn! hope BOC wins! :cheers2:

will be very tough for BOC tbh

will be very tough for BOC tbh

Not really, BoC is should be in semifinal easily.

Not really, BoC is should be in semifinal easily.

Jin Mao Tower is as charismatic though and as well known, and also is taller which may give it a lead. i think it will be a really close race. And afterwards the winning building might face ICC. i wouldnt say it should easily be in the semi finals, the buildings BOC has to face are impressive. And i don't even know what to vote yet since i love all of them its facing and loove BOC too haha

Jinmao's beauty is either being loved or hated while BoC's beauty is generally accepted. I dont think Jinmao will win :( it is my favourite skyscraper.

Jinmao's beauty is either being loved or hated while BoC's beauty is generally accepted. I dont think Jinmao will win :( it is my favourite skyscraper.

i actually think jin mao will win, but didnt know many people hate jin maos appearance. since both buildings are awesome jin mao gets the bonus for being higher and might take a lead if it was 50/50, but if some people hate it, it really might leap to the other side, i think we will see

Empire state building. The winner, forever.

yeah probably, although there are so many buildings i like more than the empire state building. for example nanjing greenland plaza who at the moment has even a hard time surviving the first round x(

Empire state building. The winner, forever.

I cant believe Leaptop plaza is loosing to petronas :(

Petronas is one of my alltime-favourites.

How can Emirates Park Towers be losing????? :ohno:

How can Emirates Park Towers be losing????? :ohno:

i thought the same :/

I voted for them, so don't blame me.

Petronas is one of my alltime-favourites.
Then our cyber-friendship is over :mad:






J/k :happy: I can't believe people actually like petronas, they're ugly. But is just my opinion, and as long as Chrysler takes the crown home, am happy :happy:

^^ Hope not, five buildings which I would definitely rather see taking the cup:

1. Empire State Building (never understood how Chrysler as a classic skyscraper has always been more popular than ESB)

2. Bank of China Tower (maybe the best ever, hard to compare it with ESB)

3. IFC2 (just love the simplicity)

4. Burj Dubai (because of it's height it is just so damn impressive, hard to compare it with any of the above)

5. ICC (same as with 3)

i think Chrysler building is the most overrated building in the Cup. i rather look how call they are and if i like the form and their style and not if they are old, that's why i dont like chrysler building and ESB much at all, although i know how important they were for the history of skyscrapers

I think the top 4 will be:

1.Burj Khalifa
2.Chrysler Building
3.Petronas Towers
4.Empire State Building

They are not necessarily my favs, but I think people will vote like that. The only small doubt I have about number 3. It will surely face Taipei 101, and they both hold the title of record braker, but I think the "twin power", and much better media image the petronas have will help them win this one.

i think Chrysler building is the most overrated building in the Cup. i rather look how call they are and if i like the form and their style and not if they are old, that's why i dont like chrysler building and ESB much at all, although i know how important they were for the history of skyscrapers

Agreed. Chrysler building is outdated, and its top, a failure in terms of design in my very humble opinion.

We're seeing some rather close contests on the Supertall World Cup. I kept checking the Tianjin WFC x Ruygyond Hotel every other day to see how that match developed.

Some buildings are being damaged on voting by particularly bad angles shown on the voting menu. Menara Telekom comes to mind.

It is very interesting to me to see how some buildings I like are out of favor in the general polls.

The 1/3 top part of the Chrysler Building, is the most awesome skyscraper sight ever. I was so lucky to stay just one block away on the 42nd St. when I visited NYC some times back. :drool:

On the other hand, ESB to me was just another tall tower, but with great historical significance going for it.

It's really bad that the old WTC twins aren't in this tournament. I think they should be included.

Imo the top of Chrysler is beautiful, however I prefer the somewhat more solid, basic designs.

Also: I do not like the rest of the building that much. ESB has a better overall design. The base of Chrysler is too wide compared to the middle part.

i thought the same :/

I voted for them, so don't blame me.

They lost :ohno:

this sunday we seem to start with the top32 rounds

I'd love it if the semifinalists were Ryugyong, Khalifa, Jin Mao, and ESB :D

I'd love it if the semifinalists were Ryugyong, Khalifa, Jin Mao, and ESB :D

Not jin mao, ESB, petronas or Taipei (these 4 are SOOOO overrated :bash:) and add to the finals Chrysler building, university of Moscow & bank of china (HK).
Lol I'm so old school :happy:

Realy nice idea

I agree!

Round of 64 is ending today. Interesting to see how the number of voters was kept consistent after a initial expected drop on the 3 first polls. It's been almost always between 580-650.

Change the picture for SWFC please? Seriously that picture only shows 1/5th of the whole building.

wen does round 2 end?

^^Maybe in June 5th...

go my jin mao <3

My fav are
1The Chrysler building
2 Jin mao
3 Tapei 101
4 Burj Khalifa
5 The Empire state building

guys, I have a question: how do I vote? is there a link that you can tell me pls to go and vote?? :) great idea btw :D :banana:

click "one on one" below the banner at the top

Swfc v John Hancock THE MOST INTERESTING FIGHT, IM COUNTING ON HANCOCK TOWER

Poor selection of photo definitely has some influence over the result. This picture doesn't do Menara Telekom the justice. Do you think Two IFC can get 76% of total votes if appropriate photo is selected for showing Menara Telekom?:ohno:

From SSC Supertall World Cup Round 2
http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=oneonone&otherday=20110508
http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/images/oneonone/2011050802.jpg

here is the most typical photo showing Menara Telekom
http://beautifulbuildings.blogspot.com/2009/07/menara-telekom-kuala-lumpur-malaysia.html
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ssFQq7wi4YA/SmFy19MdqiI/AAAAAAAAA1w/ax7lLbeXxPk/s320/450px-Menara_telekom.jpg

^ It's not always easy to find a good image in the 330 x 330 pixel size. Obviously most images of supertall buildings are vertical images, but that doesn't make then suitable for square cropping. Your image suggestion would not turn out well in our case. Plus I doubt if we had used that image, the tower would have beaten Two IFC, really.

Also, this is not a photo contest, maybe not even a beauty contest. I must presume people have at least some knowledge of the towers they are voting on, and if not, there is a link above the image for people they can check out. But like in politics, if people vote for the wrong reasons or with no knowledge at all, then I can't help that. That's why we call this a popularity vote. :)

wen does round 2 end?

Round 2 ends in 16 days (June 5)
Round 3 starts on June 6 through June 13

In order people to vote a week on individual matchups, round 4 (quarter finals) start on June 20 through June 23. There'll be regular one-on-one's in between.

Semi finals start on July 4 and 5

Grand Finale starts on July 11

Wonderful! I've created a thread in Latinscrapers and other places I Mod linking them to this page so we can have a broader, global participation.

Great initiative! Congratulations.

this is a great idea! bank of china can win!

#12 Jin Mao Building (529) vs #21 Bank of China Tower (583)

Wow!! :)

P.S. Bank of China Tower for the win!!

Jin Mao is the most iconic building in China, just as Empire State Building is in USA. I think that the winner is going to be Burj Khalifa :cheers:

Some mistakes of this tourment:
- pictures should be real and at the same distance from the buildings
- buildings from the same city shouldn't match untill 1/16 finals

Why no India Tower included in it......It's under construction...early stages though but still



Anyways great job Jan...Just wish if you can get this Supertall WC in India homepage or forum as well....


Many in Indian section are unaware of it....

cheers

^^ In the first post by Jan it's clearly said "close to completion" ;) India Tower is a nice project, but hard to call it's progress "close to completion"

Oh all right....India Tower would have been a great contestant .......

Oh all right....India Tower would have been a great contestant .......

India Tower will be a great contestant in the next supertall cup in several years

I think Burj Khalifa should fall out of top 4, it is only tall, but imo, not pretty at all.

well, I really agree with your opinions. Burj Khalifa is almost sure that would be in top 4, but the height isn´t all, in a building is necessary something more like architecture, beauty, history, if it is an iconic building or not, and its use. Nevertheless, my favorites ones still being in Dubai and they´re Burj Al Arab, and, the one I talked about, Burj Khalifa.

i guess final will be between empire state new york,burj khalifa,petronas twin tower and shanghai wfc,i also love to see bahrain world trade center and moscow business centre in final

^^ like you said just instead of swfc it will be chrysler

burj, chrysler, petronas, esb - thats your semi finalls

yep, beautiful!!!:okay:

The 1/3 top part of the Chrysler Building, is the most awesome skyscraper sight ever.

absolutely. that's why the chrysler is one of my all time favourites. but believe it or not, 55 people voted for al hamra tower! :ohno: i think they need a ticket to NYC asap, and see chrysler with their own eyes. if this doesn't help, well i would suggest to go to therapy. :D

I think people should be more forward looking, i do not get this hype for Chrysler building on this forum myself. Personally i find EBS better, both in terms of height and aesthetics.

If Chrysler wins over Burj then the only thing i can say is that people's aestheticism is still staying in the 1930s. This is sort of like choosing the 1960 Mustang over a modern Ferrari.

Just personal opinions..

IMHO, this isn't any antique competition, how long the building get built should not be take into consideration, I'm not Fan of certain part of a building, I'm looking for the whole package, some hyper overrated building just doesn't do it for me. Too bad :horse:

It's all to each of their own.

Personally the Dubai supertalls don't do it for me, nothing special about them. Just a cluster of chaos.

I thought Shun Hing Square would be ahead of U.S. Bank tower, but the second one has gotten more votes... uh well, that's a matter of taste :)

I have an issue evaluating renders x finished buildings. All buildings, from a single-detached house to a mile-high proposed supertall, look better on moder renders than in real life.

Except if I really don't like the completed building, chances are I'm voting for what already exist.

I have an issue evaluating renders x finished buildings. All buildings, from a single-detached house to a mile-high proposed supertall, look better on moder renders than in real life.

Except if I really don't like the completed building, chances are I'm voting for what already exist.

Point is some of the buildings showed as renders are actually already built. However they seem to have chosen to show the render instead of a photo...

just an idea... but since this tournament is every four years, there could be other tournaments during that time, e.g. when the uefa euro cup is on, there could be a supertalls euro world cup? and the same for other regional competitions.

I think people should be more forward looking, i do not get this hype for Chrysler building on this forum myself. Personally i find EBS better, both in terms of height and aesthetics.

If Chrysler wins over Burj then the only thing i can say is that people's aestheticism is still staying in the 1930s. This is sort of like choosing the 1960 Mustang over a modern Ferrari.

Just personal opinions..

this. i still dont get it how some 300m boring buildings whose spire made it only a supertall could even have been a tough opponent for a modern building. i just didnt get it. and i never though the chrysler building would come far at all, but well.

Well 280m is close to it. But i think they may not count spires. cheating.....

just an idea... but since this tournament is every four years, there could be other tournaments during that time, e.g. when the uefa euro cup is on, there could be a supertalls euro world cup? and the same for other regional competitions.

Isn't this exactly what Jan was doing?

I have an issue evaluating renders x finished buildings. All buildings, from a single-detached house to a mile-high proposed supertall, look better on moder renders than in real life.

Except if I really don't like the completed building, chances are I'm voting for what already exist.
I agree, renders pretty much always exceed the real structure considerably. They're clean, perfectly lit, in an artificial environment - it's just not fair to use them.

Is temple towers eligible?

I've said it before, the comment system is really buggy. Like 3 in 4 comments don't go through. Fix it, or at least have the decency to respond...

I've said it before, the comment system is really buggy. Like 3 in 4 comments don't go through. Fix it, or at least have the decency to respond...

Chill out bro, it is not easy to manage such a large forum.:cheers:

I've said it before, the comment system is really buggy. Like 3 in 4 comments don't go through. Fix it, or at least have the decency to respond...

It seems that comments that are too long often don't go trough. And I agree it was quite annoying for me several times when I was to write some more detailed respond. So in fact that that I have had to resign.

Seeds and favorites are winning "in straight sets" and almost without any problem, nice tournament ! I look forward to enjoying the semifinals and "title match"...

I don't know if this has been discussed but wouldn't it be better if they changed the pictures of each skyscraper every round. It feels like the same picture in the second round has made the World Cup kinda boring. I know what i'm getting the next day, etc. Is it really that hard to find new skyscraper pictures? New angles, new backdrops, etc, would make it much better imo.

Chill out bro, it is not easy to manage such a large forum.:cheers:
We're talking about a coding issue here, not manual labor. And this is a small thread specifically about the Supertall WC, so assumed those who set it up follow it.

It seems that comments that are too long often don't go trough. And I agree it was quite annoying for me several times when I was to write some more detailed respond. So in fact that that I have had to resign.
I tried very short 2-3 word sentences to test this, it's not the length. I could imagine they have implemented an erroneous filter (REGEX typo?) which simply discards your message, rather than inform you about non compliance.

We're talking about a coding issue here, not manual labor. And this is a small thread specifically about the Supertall WC, so assumed those who set it up follow it.


Coding is not necessarily easy. Besides, there are many things to take care of in a forum. This is a forum with close to a million visitors on a daily basis, it is very hard to be making sure that everything runs smoothly.

If you want Jan to "have the decency to respond," simply use the private message function, it is here for a reason.

SSC is one of the nicest online communities I've been to. It is a privilege, not a right.

Yeah, I think that's an issue with a setting that checks the string for malicious input, I'll have a look at that. Thanks for pointing out. :)

Seems like the quarter finals might be the top 8 tallest - #2 Abraj Al Bait Towers + Empire State Building. So being popular all seems to come down to height after all. :)

^^ It is interesting to see how some buildings got close calls on 1st and 2st rounds. Like Kingkey 100.

Empire state building is my fav.

To be honest there are far better buildings than ESB.

Yeah, I think that's an issue with a setting that checks the string for malicious input, I'll have a look at that. Thanks for pointing out. :)
If i had know who to contact, i would have done that of course, instead of fishing for attention in this thread here.

A notification about a failed comment submission would be very helpful. As it currently is, everything behaves as you'd expect with a successful comment, except one's comment doesn't show up. I think quite a few users left the section in the belief their comment has been posted.

If you'd like someone to have a look at your verification code, feel free to contact me.

I expect results, who will win?

^^
I fear Burj Khalifa will win in the end. Too many people are basing their vote on height and how imposing it is rather than how it fits into a skyline and the historical significance of the tower. :(

^^I agree you have to give some consideration to its historical significance, but no more than its architecture. Height is obviously an important factor in basing ones decision as we are voting among worlds tallest, not just any tower in the world. Also this is a tower vs tower competition, why does one need to value how well it fits into the skyline?

In your logic shall the great pyramid be our ultimate winner? It blends perfectly with its location and is one of the oldest structures made by man.

For me i think it is very natural for Burj to win, i mean it is a break through in engineering, tallest in the world by a margin and a true piece of contemporary art, all of these simply outweighs the fact that it lacks in historic significane.

ST is the only tower who could beat BK in the next WC!

^^ I think the only tower I would vote over burj khalifa is India Tower.

i will only vote petronas towers over burj because it is simply my favorite building, but other than that i normally consider height and style of the buildings. chrysler building wouldnt have survived the first round for me.

As we need some time in between the final rounds, we'll do a mini tournament in between, lining up the 8 supertalls which got the least number of votes. That one will determine the ugliest supertall building. The contestants are:

HHHR Tower (98 votes)
Al Yaqoub Tower (96 votes)
Leatop Plaza (76 votes)
Nina Tower I (94 votes)
Central Plaza (68 votes)
JP Morgan Chase Tower (77 votes)
Baiyoke Tower II (127 votes)
The Index (144 votes)

^^ Nice idea. I guess some buildings had low votes due to being pared with exceptional ones. But it will be interesting to see the results.

Central Plaza is not half bad, in fact it is a very nice building.

Too bad it went against Chrysler.

^^ I think the only tower I would vote over burj khalifa is India Tower.

first, let's see if and when india tower will be completed. ;)

i will only vote petronas towers over burj because it is simply my favorite building, but other than that i normally consider height and style of the buildings. chrysler building wouldnt have survived the first round for me.

yes, we already know. if it were up to you, chrysler would lose vs the verizon building in NY too. :|

As we need some time in between the final rounds, we'll do a mini tournament in between, lining up the 8 supertalls which got the least number of votes. That one will determine the ugliest supertall building. The contestants are:

HHHR Tower (98 votes)
Al Yaqoub Tower (96 votes)
Leatop Plaza (76 votes)
Nina Tower I (94 votes)
Central Plaza (68 votes)
JP Morgan Chase Tower (77 votes)
Baiyoke Tower II (127 votes)
The Index (144 votes)

I dont think this is fair. Some building received this little votes only because the competitor is too overwhelmingly powerful.

^^ But I'm afraid there is no other way to do this, because you have no information about how each of these towers are considered against others. You would have to put each of these towers against each other in every possible combination to make it 100% fair.

^^ But I'm afraid there is no other way to do this, because you have no information about how each of these towers are considered against others. You would have to put each of these towers against each other in every possible combination to make it 100% fair.

OR, just use the ratings from the scrapers individual threads?

Well, i don't like Burj Kalifa that much...i think it should take 4th place, the winner (although unlikely) should be Burj al Arab!!!! very unique design..and over an artificial island!!! the second best is Petronas(they will face each other on the 3rd round)...really cool twin towers...and third should be Sears Tower

Well, i have to say this, for NGFC vs Aon, a futuristic building vs a boxy hideous building... Aon as much as vote, obviously this is a country vs country competition for some people .. lol

^^ You are new here. Your taste will probably yet evolve, and you will discover the true beauty of the architecture.

I've said it and I'll have to say it again.

BoC Tower FTW!! :D

On another note to the commenting system: If you just submitted your post DO NOT refresh site later or your comment will copy itself with the new date. This have just happen to my post in last one on one, and now its 3 identical copies :| I guess it shouldn't work like that.

I had a look at the comment script and it turned out that the apostrophes caused a problem. As a comments is a static variable it'll replace any apostrophe into a &# 039. I think it's good now but let me know if anyone has other issues using the comment system.

Also, it won't insert the same comment by the same user twice if you reload the page.

Well, i have to say this, for NGFC vs Aon, a futuristic building vs a boxy hideous building... Aon as much as vote, obviously this is a country vs country competition for some people .. lol

i totally agree

And I totally don't. And I'm not voting for countries. I voted for Chinese, Americans, Dubai and even for North Korea project. Buildings are not like cars like somebody suggested, they represents the businesses inside, and while I can understand that for some level building design may be "silly" or futuristic, they also have to look at least a little bit elegant especially when it is office tower. Because while crazy looking sports car represents one extravagant individual, what represents crazy kitschy disproportional building like ngfc? Crazy maniacs working inside :nuts:? And Aon Center on the other hand fully represents its purpose, and its elegant, one of the most appreciated by me features the building may have.

^^ me too, i even voted for a dubai skyscraper, guess which one? :D

and btw... i just saw this:
chrysler vs SWFC
ICC vs BOC

holy shi*! :nuts:

Looking back at how much votes BOC had over Jinmao, ICC vs BOC must be another intense match.

Also Taipei101 vs 2IFC will be very intense too.

Dont think SWFC vs Chrysler will have much competition thou :(

I think T101 will out do 2IFC, due to its significance (being once world's tallest) and its inspiration (bamboo shape). 2IFC is just a good looking tower, thats about all

SWFC would have had a chance if Chrysler didn't have such a rich history and nice crown. SWFC is still the tallest tower on the mainland and has an exceptional observation tower, and a fantastic design. I still think Chrysler will prevail though

That sucks, because I really think SWFC is my favorite complete supertall in the world :(

GIFC for the cup!

Essence of distilled, purest skyscaperness :)

chrysler building outdoing SWFC would be just wrong, SWFC is so huge and good looking and modern. but we will see

SWFC would have had a chance if Chrysler didn't have such a rich history and nice crown. SWFC is still the tallest tower on the mainland and has an exceptional observation tower, and a fantastic design. I still think Chrysler will prevail though


Again i think historic significance is ought not to be over weighted as a factor of basing one's decision.

Also i personally think and truly believes that Jinmao has a better crown yet it lost to BOC.

I think in this case the difference in their structural sizes outweighs the historic significance.

http://iforce.co.nz/i/ryjunj3y.t14.png (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=ryjunj3y.t14.png)

^^
+1

I love the Chrysler. The most beautiful building in the world!

Fantastic idea the supertalls tournament!
I discovered it just today! What a pity!

So sorry that the John Hancock center is already out! It's one of my favourite buildings...

Well, I will support the Guangzhou International Finance Center, the Trump Tower and the legendary Willis Tower !!! :-)

Bye

Again i think historic significance is ought not to be over weighted as a factor of basing one's decision.

Also i personally think and truly believes that Jinmao has a better crown yet it lost to BOC.

I think in this case the difference in their structural sizes outweighs the historic significance.

[QUOTE=KillerZavatar;79127824]^^
+1
Don't be silly both of you, perhaps the only real competition for Chrysler is the Burj or CoC (one for being the first real structural marvel of our times, the other for it's unusual yet amazing design), the others are just tall buildings, an no more than that. That being said, I'm happy that most of my favorites are in.

Don't be silly both of you, perhaps the only real competition for Chrysler is the Burj or CoC (one for being the first real structural marvel of our times, the other for it's unusual yet amazing design), the others are just tall buildings, an no more than that. That being said, I'm happy that most of my favorites are in.[/QUOTE]

lol... come on... Everyone has their own opinion, IMO, Chrysler is just some hyper overrated building, i will choose SFWC over it anytime, its more simple and elegant.

Don't be silly both of you, perhaps the only real competition for Chrysler is the Burj or CoC (one for being the first real structural marvel of our times, the other for it's unusual yet amazing design), the others are just tall buildings, an no more than that. That being said, I'm happy that most of my favorites are in.

It was silly from you to write that sort of comment, because your taste or your opinion is not the absolut truth.

Well, at least I have my very own POV, just so you know I'm not voting for countries, I'm voting for the structures themselves.
I've read lots of comments of people who choose there favorites supertalls depending of where they're located. And perhaps I'm being silly as well, but trust me, I'm not a biased person, but an honest one.
Greetings :)

Oh goodness, US Bank tower goes against Burj,.. lol imminent goodbye to the US Bank Tower :(

^^
You're gonna kill me, I did vote for the Burj :ohno:

Don't be silly both of you, perhaps the only real competition for Chrysler is the Burj or CoC (one for being the first real structural marvel of our times, the other for it's unusual yet amazing design), the others are just tall buildings, an no more than that. That being said, I'm happy that most of my favorites are in.

Sorry am i missing something here, what makes Chrysler so "beautiful and extraordinary" as people seems to perceive it on this forum?

In the Supertalls World cup, it'll be easier for any well designed supertall building to be eliminated. And is this an annual tournament or a one-off tournament?

^^
Just like soccer world cups, we are gonna have this tournament every four years, I think :)

Better in the next tournament to include the real comparison of building in size.
Like this

I think in this case the difference in their structural sizes outweighs the historic significance.

http://iforce.co.nz/i/ryjunj3y.t14.png (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=ryjunj3y.t14.png)

It will be more fair to the huge and super tall structure. Coz just by seeing 2 totally different pic with different angle too, size will not affect that much sometimes even be ignored.

Better in the next tournament to include the real comparison of building in size.

As old saying goes, it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it. I would prefer Smith Tower or Space Needle in Seattle over majority of Dubai's towers anytime.

^^It is simply wrong to say that size does not matter in such a competition, for the most basic reason why a 200m tower, no matter how elegant, would not appear as a competitor.

Moreover, a comparison diagram in sizes is not to make voters purely voting size, but to give voters a visual representation so they have room to consider the difference in size and weigh this factor in addition to any other factors (which may include design, historical significance, iconic tower or not) to make up their final decision.

Sorry am i missing something here, what makes Chrysler so "beautiful and extraordinary" as people seems to perceive it on this forum?

yes! :D but i have to admit that it will be a tough call. hopefully BOC wins the tournament! :cheers2:

I agree that a comparison diagram would be very useful because height in number is not enough to realize the huge diference between two buildings such as SWFC and CB

This is SWFC
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/5807910910_d7aa69d998_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8281403@N07/5807910910/)
Flickr 上 matteroffact (http://www.flickr.com/people/8281403@N07/) 的 purrrrr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8281403@N07/5807910910/)



And this is what we called, a render.
http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/images/oneonone/2011060801.jpg

But, fine, whatever.

^ this is not a photo competition, the image is merely there to remind you what supertall you're voting on. If you have no knowledge of the building and judge it by the image, then you should not be voting, really.

^ this is not a photo competition, the image is merely there to remind you what supertall you're voting on. If you have no knowledge of the building and judge it by the image, then you should not be voting, really.


I would suggest you to put either all render image or no image at all and just put the link to the building forum. If you look at the comment in the voting site, you will notice that some people are voting against render image building vs real image building. Not to be satisfied all people, but standardize images should be used. It would be naive to think all people can see the building in person, hence, photo will be used as part of the consideration of the voting. Just my 2 cent. no offence.

The image of the Shanghai WFC was replaced because people were complaining that it wasn't 'fair' that only the top was showing, and reasoned it needed a full profile image.

I guess like in real elections, people *always* will complain no matter what you do. I'd say that good thing though, means that it's being taken serious. :)

Or you replaced several images just to make that banner?
SWFC will lose the competition anyway, just think that it deserves a better picture...

Wouldn't matter. American buildings are getting big favoritism and the two "classic" american buildings (Chrysler and ESB) will not be stopped. I mean, AON was close to Greenland in voting and Sears beat the much more elegant Kingkey FC. It's quite obvious that American skyscrapers are getting unreasonably boosted in comparison to eastern skyscrapers.

Well actually people will have different tastes in Architecture.

Let's use car analogy.

Chrysler Building and ESB is like the classic Ferrari 250GTO while modern buildings like SWFC and Kingkey is like a new, shiny Lamborghini.

To me, the Burj is like a Bugatti Veyron. It only breaks records, but I don't see anything else special about it.

Why couldnt Kingkey and SWFC be the 458 :P

Well actually people will have different tastes in Architecture.

Let's use car analogy.

Chrysler Building and ESB is like the classic Ferrari 250GTO while modern buildings like SWFC and Kingkey is like a new, shiny Lamborghini.

To me, the Burj is like a Bugatti Veyron. It only breaks records, but I don't see anything else special about it.
:applause:

Exactly. It is just a matter of taste and not a holy war between old and new...

Again i think historic significance is ought not to be over weighted as a factor of basing one's decision.

Also i personally think and truly believes that Jinmao has a better crown yet it lost to BOC.

I think in this case the difference in their structural sizes outweighs the historic significance.

http://iforce.co.nz/i/ryjunj3y.t14.png (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=ryjunj3y.t14.png)

It is a little similar to Madrid Tower (Respol)

http://blog.educastur.es/clil1webquest/files/2009/05/repsol1.jpg

:applause:

Exactly. It is just a matter of taste and not a holy war between old and new...

but some new buildings still have the classic touch. look at jin mao, it has the color and style of a very old building was just built later :)

Burj is my choice! Just great!
I love Dubai and this building! Most beautiful!

Oh goodness, US Bank tower goes against Burj,.. lol imminent goodbye to the US Bank Tower :(
Good. That tacky "holiday resort" shouldn't have gotten past the first round. I've seen it in up close and aside from its height, is hasn't got much going for it.

I would suggest you to put either all render image or no image at all and just put the link to the building forum. If you look at the comment in the voting site, you will notice that some people are voting against render image building vs real image building. Not to be satisfied all people, but standardize images should be used. It would be naive to think all people can see the building in person, hence, photo will be used as part of the consideration of the voting. Just my 2 cent. no offence.
I feel the same. I think a lot of voters indeed don't know the buildings well. Seeing Taipei 101 struggle like that from the start underlines my suspicion.

I feel the same. I think a lot of voters indeed don't know the buildings well. Seeing Taipei 101 struggle like that from the start underlines my suspicion.


4 years later in the next competition, 1WTC will blow everything out of the water. Becuase it is an ICON and an ICON with significant history behind it :)

From your previous posts in this thread I get that this is one fat sarcasm of you. And this time I agree. People are crazy about this building. And although its the best from all of the proposals its got, it's not the best in the world in my book, and also, the spire of wtc ruins the design quite badly. I think it shouldn't win with buildings like burj khalifa, india tower, or maybe even shanghai tower (but that last I guess is a matter of taste). And I'm afraid it will win despite that, because its so recognized, and such a big story is associated with it.

I personally would vote for the old wtc over burj, it is my all time the most favorite design, but not for the new wtc it looks way worse in my opinion.

^^
The old WTC was boring, just my personal opinion.

City of Capitals !! My choice for win :)

^^
The old WTC was boring, just my personal opinion.


Oh, really? I think that view must have been mindblowing like anything else:

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2170/449892648457b94133eo.jpg

Oh, really? I think that view must have been mindblowing like anything else:



pardon my ignorance, i don't find anything mind boggling there... This is what i find impressive :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3822250783_e4a1e12724_b.jpg

^^ Yes, but where is the second tower on your pic :D besides vertical stripes makes way better effect on a tower than horizontal.

Let me try again:

http://www.uwasa.fi/~atn/travel/usa/wtc/towers1.jpg

:drool:

vote for petronas tower-best supertall on earth
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/5516148763_847957e453_b.jpg
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/5504784968_d92481b0ab_b.jpg

Our quarter finalists are going to be revealed soon! My prediction based on current standings:

Burj Khalifa
Willis
Chrysler
Bank of China
2IFC
Petronas Twin
Guangzhou IFC
Empire State


My semi finalists prediction:

Burj Khalifa
Chrysler
Petronas Twin
Empire State


My finalists prediction:

Burj Khalifa
Petronas Twin


and the Supertall World Cup goes to...?

I think Petronas Towers are going to cause an upset to Burj Khalifa in the final match.

best supertall on earth i agree, petronas is probably the only one i vote over burj khalifa

my prediction supertall world cup goes to....

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5771458319_a955884129_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yyheen/5771458319/)
KLCC Night Light (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yyheen/5771458319/) by yyheen (http://www.flickr.com/people/yyheen/), on Flickr

i think ESB will win, i hope not though because i like petronas, burj etc more

i hope the final would be burj khalifa vs petronas twin tower.i like burj khalifa more,but i predict twin tower will win,

Average dominance over opponents after second round for burj is 79%, and for esb 84% so taking that into account esb slightly leads but still its more or less 50-50, and I still think burj will win the tournament.

Average dominance over opponents after second round for burj is 79%, and for esb 84% so taking that into account esb slightly leads but still its more or less 50-50, and I still think burj will win the tournament.

well it would deserve it considering its sooo much taller than anything else that entered the contest

ESB has been having easier opponents than the Burj, there for it has slightly higher domination %. So i think the chance of winning are pretty even, that is, if Burj makes it pass Chrysler and ESB makes it pass Patronas.

:cheers:Tokyo Joins the contest with the
TOKYO SKY TREE
http://tokyo-sky-tree.up.seesaa.net/image/20110521_6.JPG
(C)seesa blogs TST

^^
thats a supertall structure, but not a supertall skyscraper. the contest is only about buildings, not towers

How is CoC trailing behind ESB so close @_@ i dont understand..

How is CoC trailing behind ESB so close @_@ i dont understand..

look at the time. it might change during the next hours or day. the time the contest starts is always 22 british time. i think a lot of europeans are online then and voting. a few hours after the contest more american users might join and it will change again. :) but thats just my guess, maybe it actually can keep being so near :P

From my observation, the tower that is leading by the first hour after contest starts will eventually win the contest. The only exception is Q1 vs Kingkey.

From my observation, the tower that is leading by the first hour after contest starts will eventually win the contest. The only exception is Q1 vs Kingkey.

haha those two were so awesome, i was like watching thst contest every day they still were up because it was going in each direction. the most exciting contest yet :)

the time the contest starts is always 22 british time.
19:00 UTC, when a new days hits far outposts of Europe.

most times i vote at 23:xx MSK+0 (UTC+4), when there are already few votes

19:00 UTC, when a new days hits far outposts of Europe.

most times i vote at 23:xx MSK+0 (UTC+4), when there are already few votes

i am UTC+1 i think and i can see the new contest always at about 23 either. but normally vote at around midnight.

Towers is a good subject for a World Cup as well. We might line up the top 32 for a next tournament. :)

Yup please keep the tournament going! Doesnt have to be buildings, towers, bridges, stadiums everything :D

We should do one for airports. They are a big part of architecture as well.

Very tall one! Great architecture! Nice. I wish I can visit that, and hoping that was a tough one! Thanks for sharing!

And What about skyscrapers contest (or even high-rise)? You said that we will make additional tournaments for the continents. But then we would have very little towers from supertall section for each of these contests. So what if we could include towers from lower range for the local tournaments. That would make it even more interesting, and we would discover many new towers. I think that could be great idea, anybody agrees?

very easy to make decision..CoC is clearly more elegant,futuristic,unique,green then Esb.Esb just history and icon,

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/3878_city-of-capitals.jpghttp://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/empire_state_building_1.jpg

its like compareing lagendary nokia 3310 and modern iphone4

looks great

I'm praying God, city Of capitals get pass this round. ESB is an icon I get it, but overall it lacks a decent design, honestly.

^^Apparently you don't understand much about Art Deco.

this is a joke. i don't get it how people can vote for some more or less random boxes stitched together and call it "great" architecture. :ohno:

the ESB has everything: height, style, design, proportion, detail,...
on the other hand my little cousin could have built CoC with his legos lol.

^^Apparently you don't understand much about Art Deco.

Actually I do, that's why I cherissed Chrysler Building so much :)

CoC compared to esb looks just silly. It looks like a toy not like a building. But I can understand people may like it. When one becomes interested in skyscrapers the first step usually is impression with most futuristic (often cheap, and kitschy) designs. That is also always the case when we are young. Only later when your taste mature you start enjoying things like esb, chrysler or sears.

CoC compared to esb looks just silly. It looks like a toy not like a building. But I can understand people may like it. When one becomes interested in skyscrapers the first step usually is impression with most futuristic (often cheap, and kitschy) designs. That is also always the case when we are young. Only later when your taste mature you start enjoying things like esb, chrysler or sears.

The problem is that many people are then carried to the other extreme: automatically giving discredit and labeling a failure any new project, anywhere, as if we wouldn't be able to build anything that in 70 years will stand out as aesthetically sound and so.

Whу are you so angry? Are you shocked, that someone has dared to compete with ESB? CoC looks in an original way. And what is ESB? Only history and huge height for 30-s' years. Outwardly it isn't remembered.

I really don't get why some people vote for ESB based on it's historical significance only. So it was the tallest for over 40 years I get it, the biggest art-deco skyscraper ever, I get it too. Aside that, and fact that king kong has been on top of it several times (or films). Is really not that beautiful nor impressive, to look at.
What's the point of having a tournament like this, if they're expectings to choose the oldies over the new ones, over and over. If that's the case by all means let's declare the big pyramid of Giza the absolut winner period.
CoC got a revolutionary (yet classy) design. Think people think :)

The problem is that many people are then carried to the other extreme: automatically giving discredit and labeling a failure any new project, anywhere, as if we wouldn't be able to build anything that in 70 years will stand out as aesthetically sound and so.

True, but its not me. On final match I will vote for the burj.

But still on esb vs coc I have no doubt which is better looking.

CoC is cool and all, but Empire State Building is just so :drool:

empire state is so ugly,the building painting,the pinnacle,the proportion is out,the design is like most building in that era and it so out to date...people who vote for esb is just ego...coc is best futuristic building,its new,glassy,more light,and more comfortable to work inside it

^^ I think people vote for different reasons analyzing different aspects.

^^ I think people vote for different reasons analyzing different aspects.

yeah..the reason is.. esb is more old?..its not reasonable at all..best skyscrapers should pass certain criteria to be a good example building for future..the great design,light building,green concept,glassy,more comfortable interior,safe,and also
improvement from past is true criteria to be best skyscraper..not just "OLD"

those twins are so disjointed. Is not hard decision to make considering a masterpiece built 80 years ago vs twins that could be in any city

what so good about esb?what are the masterpiece about esb?

If God created a skyscraper, he would build an Empire state building. It's as simple as that.
Whats so good about boxes stacked on top of eachother?