Ive asked about this twice in threads but been ignored. I saw it mention here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=98766&page=2&pp=20


Is it still a plan?

would it be going in the carpark between the 2 towers?

......?

Im not entirely sure if it is going ahead or not, there has been limited discussion about it on here but I dont think anything official has been done about it. It would be positioned in the vacant block (currently carpark) next to CP2. There has been a number of discussions about the height with opinions ranging from around 12 stories which hardly seems worth it, to something taller than CP1 which wouldn't be possible on that site. So in answer to your question, I think it is all just talk at the moment!!

thankyou.


Could it go up to 30 stories? perhaps 35?

Ive seen the carpark. It isnt a small space, so why couldnt it be taller than cp1?

I thought it was small, but that could just be the high walls on all sides. With the height, the only thing that worries me about that is the roof shapes, if it was taller than CP1 it might detract from CP1, but if it was only slightly shorter than CP1 then it could enhance the look of both CP1 and CP2. Thats my only concern. I hope it will be a hotel with a nice big glitzy streetscape.

i was imagining it looking exactly like cp1 and 2 lol. So it would end up just looking like a larger cp1

I think they should do a larger version of Cp1 and reverse the colours. You know so its like a reflective blue glass building with tinted white windows. I think that would look really cool.

I like that idea Andy! Nice thinking.

It would be great to have a towering CP3, all office, and similiar to CP1 take the mantle from Vision at 250m plus.

How big is the site?

I’ve always thought there was something aesthetic about 3s, and you rarely get to see it in big city buildings. I’d love to see CP3 be taller (and even more tapering) then CP1, but it must have a “flip-top head”.

Keep in mind that the CP3 site is smaller than that of Emerald (ie much smaller than either of the two other CP buildings) and that if it was built taller than CP1 it would block much of CP1's views. So don't get over enthusiastic, because I can't see anything amazing happening: I can remember the article in the Courier Mail, and though I can't clearly remember the number of floors, I remember being dissapointed that it was so short

lol knock down CP2 and use its space as well!

Central Plaza 3 is here!!!! But don't get too excited, its only a 14s/57.2m office building, but the good thing is it's design is similiar to CP1 & CP2.

Development Application (http://www.ourbrisbane.com/government/transactions/search/stuff/psf//j/a/t/rgkg/p930559_0001.pdf)

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/412/cp34wb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Looks like Seidlers IBM building in Sydney.

Its a little disappointing, but I spose it will be a nice gap filler.

I don't understand why they wouldn't make more use of the vertical height available - why only 57.2 m ?!!

I expected something of this scale. A waste, but the design isn't bad.

Interesting - oh well at least its not going to be a car park any more.

they shoulda made this one 250m and made CP1 as the middle sized scraper. oh well! shit happens. at least its an attractive design like its brothers!

It looks alright. The facade looks like CP, but the curves??? I don't know how well they will match. CP 1 and 2 are based on a crystal, so I think sharp sloping lines would have worked better.

As for the height, I suppose if I were a mouse it would look towering, maybe. Well I guess the up side is that less space here means less on the market and more they can stick in the next big 350m office tower!;)

This building would look AWSOME!!!! ......in Toowoomba:)

lol

Im happy with it.
The site is very small, if youve looked. I never expected anything big after i first asked lol. 57m is prob more than id expected.

is it designed by the same cp1/2 melbourne central architect, and in how many years will it be built?

I think its dissapointing, although it could have good contrasting effects on cp1,2.

I'm happy with the CP3 design and height. The three buildings in a cluster will make a great skyscape statement :banana2: :banana2: :banana2:

how cute. daddy bear, mummy bear and now baby bear!
good stuff.

I'm happy with the CP3 design and height. The three buildings in a cluster will make a great skyscape statement :banana2: :banana2: :banana2:

Yes, although it may not be tall, the three buildings clustered together will be great. Just like Noida Tower, in India.

I mostly like the design, it's better then a carpark. But I agree with Locke about the curves - what is with the curved top? It should be sharp! :-P

I think this would have been a greatopportunity if it were in the same design as CP1 but about 250m.

Would be nice to continue to have a Central Plaza design at the top of the skyline.

JayT mentions in the 'National Office' Market thread in News & Discussion that there was a render in today's Courier Mail. Anyone able to scan it if different to that on the previous page?

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6987/img0872b1fv.jpg

Look at that as compared to the site. Could easily be much taller

Look at that as compared to the site. Could easily be much taller

To me it looks like a similar sized site to the Skyline site and skyline is going to be 48st/160m. I think the should do something bigger on this site.

Updated pics, they must have listened to my comment that a curved top was not in keeping with CP1 or 2;).

What a wee little thing it is:
http://www.ntp.com.au/projects/Images/Q2306/L1.gif

http://www.ntp.com.au/projects/Images/Q2306/M3.gif

http://www.ntp.com.au/projects/Images/Q2306/M1.gif

Geee, yeah it is Locke! Picadilly DOES looks better...
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/soulvisionQ1/Picadillysq.jpg

almost?

Picadilly DOES look better

Yup, Picadilly over CP3 anyday. Should'a kept the design curvey :( :D

So when does construction start?

^^I'm assuming it should be soon, it has been approved for a little while now.

Today's Courier Mail (page 7) reports that final BCC approval has been received and that construction is to commence "soon".

excellent.
pity it isnt 3m taller, then i could include in monthly diagrams.

Tis the news story:

Boom in the CBD - Third tower to complete CP trilogy
The Courier-Mail, 9 May 2006

BRISBANE'S CBD is bracing itself for a wave of new development after the approval of the third tower in the Central Plaza trilogy and a major development of one the city's premier riverside locations.

A lack of commercial space in the central business district has resulted in a rush of development applications to Brisbane City Council, which will see the face of Brisbane change significantly in the coming years.

In addition to the approval for the construction of CP3, the council has also passed plans to redevelop Queensland Rugby Union's property in Eagle St.

Meanwhile plans to redevelop the Suncorp Theatre site in Turbot St have been lodged for consideration.

QIC Real Estate confirmed it had obtained a development approval for its proposed Central Plaza 3 tower on Eagle St and was planning to start preliminary works as soon as possible.

The building once complete will offer 11,000sq m of A-grade commercial space over 13 levels and ground floor retail.

QIC Real Estate head of global real estate Laurie Brindle said in a statement it had already put the call out for expressions of interest for contractors to do the excavation works.

While he declined to confirm any interested parties in the property, Mr Brindle said it had attracted strong interest from professional service organisations and the finance sector.

Industry speculation is that a number of large tenants are seeking to lease the entire building on completion.

Jones Lang LaSalle and Ray White Asset Leasing have recently been appointed to jointly lease Central Plaza 3.

Queensland Rugby Union Club has had its plans to develop a two-storey function centre, restaurant and bar, outdoor cafe and plaza at 145-171 Eagle St approved.

Urban planning chair David Hinchliffe said the building would feature a new public square which opened up

views of the river and Story Bridge and links to riverside bike and pedestrian ways.

Cr Hinchliffe said the approved plans would include more trees and shade than were in the original plans lodged with the council.

Documents filed with the Brisbane City Council have

also revealed plans to redevelop the old Suncorp Theatre site in Turbot St into a highrise office building.

The site currently houses an office building, plaza, car park and the theatre.

It spans three city allotments.

The application is to demolish part of the existing theatre building along the Turbot St frontage and build a 25-level office building.

Smurfit-Stone Building in Chicago is a bit of a twin to CP1&2. A smaller version of it would have looked great as part of this complex.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=52141

Any more info on the starting date???

Looks like this baby has started construction!

Construction Pic:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0279.jpg

Thanks KJB! How much more digging is there to go - or how many underground levels?

anyone know when this thing is going to start and who's doing it?

^^ It has started.

not the excavation - the actual building work. I've been staring at a big hole in the ground for a while now

Won't be long now!

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That's the old version I think Brissy Lad

This is the new one where they finally realised a crystal doesn't have curves;) Sunshades ain't pretty though.

http://www.ntp.com.au/projects/Images/Q2306/L1.gif

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I like the old one better

What a hole!!!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Construction%20update%2030%20Mar%202007/Imgp0175.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Construction%20update%2030%20Mar%202007/Imgp0176.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Construction%20update%2030%20Mar%202007/Imgp0177.jpg

Nice pics KJ. Looks like they found the water table.

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Good news! Big hole for such a small building.

Totally forgot about this one. Not that interested.

Good news! Big hole for such a small building.Hazarding a guess here, but I would say they are wanting to increase the underground parking for the whole complex and not just for this building alone.

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They have completed the core to lthe underside of ground and poured the level B1 slab. They are preparing to pour the front part of the ground slab this week. They will come back and excavate the retained earth agaist the Trinity Building after the ground floor beams are in place then close the ground slab, a bit tricky really.

BTW, the tower crane on this job is the next generation style, you will see plenty more of these in years to come. It has an awsome lifting capacity at long reach.

QIC kept the short design of this tower (originally approved in the mid ninities) because they wanted it occupied by the end of 2008. Typically of their conservative nature.

I just realised a couple of things in regard to the 3 tower's forms & heights.

In this pic, the lower section of CP2's roofline is virtually the same height of the grated mechanical floor of CP1.

http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/brisbane035.JPG

Pretty obvious HERE (http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=470049) too.

http://www.ntp.com.au/projects/Images/Q2306/M3.gif

http://www.ntp.com.au/projects/Images/Q2306/L1.gif

So, in a nutshell - CP2's lowest point of its curved roofline is equal to that of CP1's grated mechanical floor and CP3's 55m corner glass element is 1/2 of CP2's 110m height...or all seems to be.

All aesthetically designed :okay:

...Just me thinkin aloud.

KJBrissy posted these in the Your city's DENSITY!! (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=475198&page=2) thread.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/18%2005%202007/Imgp0235.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/18%2005%202007/Imgp0236.jpg

This thing is taking an age to gain momentum isn't it. That is one very big hole is a tight spot though.

It's above ground now.

Fri 31 Aug

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4121/p8220098dr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Article in the Courier-Mail yesterday indicated that QIC is putting all 3 towers up for sale and they expect it to set a new Australian record, maybe approaching 1 billion dollars.

BTW, the tower crane on this job is the next generation style, you will see plenty more of these in years to come. It has an awsome lifting capacity at long reach.

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Awesome compared to what?????

Fri Oct 19 2007

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5871/pa050009sl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Any construction pictures for this one??? Before moving to the UK my office window used to look over this site.

^^ I don't have any, but can I have your old office?

Taken Monday 27th January.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df06b3127cceb4055661aae700000025102QbOXDVqzZa

Taken yesterday, Thursday 7th Feb

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6343/p1240028oi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It will be interesting to watch the glass going in and how the cantilevered concrete shades are finished off. The scaffold is being shifted up as they progress with each lift. Q..Will the scaffold move back down the same way when they top out ?

no mate

is the development still expected to be available mid 08?

You'd think they would be pushing it for that.

Taken Wed 5th Mar 2008

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5690/p2130002nl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1999/p2130018bu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/874/p2130028oz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Taken from 9th floor of CP1 - 10 April 2008 (sorry with camera phone)

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/04/607653.jpg
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/04/607654.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/03052008044.jpg

Topped out?

Yeah it is. The triangle feature in the pic is the roof feature I would imagine.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/cj_81_/29042008797.jpg

The light was quickly disappearing on me when I took this one. But it appears to have topped out like the others have mentioned and the façade has caught up to the top of the building. Its got a different look about it to its older siblings but its still looks decent.
http://users.tpg.com.au/price412/images/CP3.jpg

This actually went up pretty fast!!

I like the facade, and the fact that its more moderately sized, and not so dominating.

29th August 2008

CP3 has topped out and the externals appear to be complete. Nice reflectiveness (not sure thats an actual word, but whatever) happening of this building as well. I guess that is brand new glass for ya.

http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/13613115.jpg

Also a shot of the 3 brothers rising up next to each other. However youngest sibling seems to have received a partial blank wall up the top.:ohno:.

http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/13613118.jpg

This project was finished early this month. One of the Tenants has moved in and the other will be in soon. It was fully leased before construction started.

The big "Q Super" building logo went up on a couple of weeks ago. The finished product looks quite sleek (and short).

Can we get some photos please next time you're at 111 Eagle?

Can we get some photos please next time you're at 111 Eagle?

I'll see if I can remember to stop and take a few tomorrow while I am down that end of town.

Can we get some photos please next time you're at 111 Eagle?

Ask and thou shall receive:).

30th November

More of a side view of it, you can see they have covered up the exposed wall above the neighboring building, which is good because it was a shocking blank wall, so the white is slightly better. QSuper have the signage rights on this one, so another Qld Government based company on the Central Plaza's. Good to see my Super Money going to good use!
http://www.mynetimages.com/7a6e191f.jpg

However this next shot turned out so good I just had to leave it in a larger size, I just can not believe how good it looks, almost render like, I know I am blowing my own trumpet but I don't care:lol:.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8743/centralplaza3wu6.jpg

Nice glass makes all the difference hey? :P Good work mate!

Nice glass makes all the difference hey? :P Good work mate!

Looks awesome aye. Best glass in Brisbane.

This is what 167 Turbot Street should have been clad in. Is it so hard for these developers to get something so basic right?

Wow nice Glass, this area of the city is nice and dense :)

Yeah nice size, if it were any bigger like 150m plus it would have clashed with the neighbours views :lol: and I think that part of the city needs to have a few medium sized buildings like this otherwise you get too much darkness in that street to soon during the day.

You still get a nice density and the glass and the facade is very nice. :)

#UC: 53 Albert St is what i agree goes the same here:
September 23rd, 2006, 09:01 PM Post #12

ah your all development freaks and would make bad town planners. im totally against building residential high rises right next door to each other.

you need to tier development up, not build ginormous towers at the front. thats why i dont like soul positioned where it is. i think this is appropriate use for the site and adds to alleviate the commercial space shortage.


I agree but not in exact wording as ^^ hence my comments ^^ :lol: