LE MEULLEUR QUARTIER DE LUBUMBASHI

DEJA EN PLEIN CONSTRUCTION

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Pourquoi certains promotteurs et je suis sur qu'ils connaissent quand même les nouvelles technologies, n'utilisent pas cet outil pour leur marketing? A moins que leurs projets trouvent déjà preneurs avant qu'ils ne débutent.


Le projet (portfolio)


http://www.magnaclad.com/assets/czutania/Projects/Aramis_Brochure_-_French_-_LowRes_WebVersion.pdf

http://www.magnaclad.com/assets/czutania/Projects/Aramis_Brochure_-_French_-_LowRes_WebVersion.pdf

Il est rassurant de voir Lubumbashi embrasser petit à petit l’urbanisme moderne. La stagnation postcoloniale faisait de cette ville un musée d’un autre temps. Avec ce projet ainsi que « Luano City », Lubumbashi peut se lancer dans la chasse aux investisseurs avec assurance.

Il est rassurant de voir Lubumbashi embrasser petit à petit l’urbanisme moderne. La stagnation postcoloniale faisait de cette ville un musée d’un autre temps. Avec ce projet ainsi que « Luano City », Lubumbashi peut se lancer dans la chasse aux investisseurs avec assurance.

+1.

That city is long over due to enter modernism.

Why is Congo building wooden homes like California surely there is not a shortage of concrete here

Why is Congo building wooden homes like California surely there is not a shortage of concrete here

Cheaper, faster to built and more economical.

Wooden houses exist in some other cities as well. Its nothing new.

These homes are no close to be called luxurious, but more like superposed boxes: 2 to 4 bedrooms, no office space, tiny rooms, plus a very simplistic architecture...This is a joke. But i am glad that Lubumbashi is being modernized even if i hardly embrace the principle of building wooden houses because they are expensive in the long run.

These are cheap or low income housing.

These homes are no close to be called luxurious, but more like superposed boxes: 2 to 4 bedrooms, no office space, tiny rooms, plus a very simplistic architecture...This is a joke. But i am glad that Lubumbashi is being modernized even if i hardly embrace the principle of building wooden houses because they are expensive in the long run.

I didn't want to comment about it as someone told me : "la notion de richesse varie d'un pays à l'autre, dans certain pays être riche, veut dire posséder du bétail".
As those houses look different, even they don't worth the traditional ones, unfortunately they will be preferred because they look like the ones in movies.

I didn't want to comment about it as someone told me : "la notion de richesse varie d'un pays à l'autre, dans certain pays être riche, veut dire posséder du bétail".
As those houses look different, even they don't worth the traditional ones, unfortunately they will be preferred because they look like the ones in movies.

True in term of richness, but there are certain standards in term of luxury. Even before the arrival of Europeans on African soil, the King or Chief's compound was always exceptional and different. A Bentley will remain a Bentley regardless of the location, to say that luxury should not be discounted with the location. Look at these houses below for example, they are far better and far more "luxurious" than what ARAMI is building. Even in Congolese or African standards, ARAMI houses are not close to luxurious. Actually, i might have been misunderstood or did not explain my thoughts much more clearly. My initial concern was that the builder branded his houses as luxurious, which for me were and still not the case. This is just another case of misleading advertisement.
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True in term of richness, but there are certain standards in term of luxury. Even before the arrival of Europeans on African soil, the King or Chief's compound was always exceptional and different. A Bentley will remain a Bentley regardless of the location, to say that luxury should not be discounted with the location. Look at these houses below for example, they are far better and far more "luxurious" than what ARAMI is building. Even in Congolese or African standards, ARAMI houses are not close to luxurious. Actually, i might have been misunderstood or did not explain my thoughts much more clearly. My initial concern was that the builder branded his houses as luxurious, which for me were and still not the case. This is just another case of misleading advertisement.
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I totally agree with you Demavin, I understood your thoughts:). For a frange of our population, anything branded western will remain and look better than local. I don't know if you have already follow some comments on Nyota TV done by reporter Nono N'landu, you will be amazed because the words used are too overrated and I concluded maybe the guy never saw better. Maybe his standard is too low than ours....

I totally agree with you Demavin, I understood your thoughts:). For a frange of our population, anything branded western will remain and look better than local. I don't know if you have already follow some comments on Nyota TV done by reporter Nono N'landu, you will be amazed because the words used are too overrated and I concluded maybe the guy never saw better. Maybe his standard is too low than ours....

That is the problem Karavia: "Mon peuple périt par faute de connaissance" ou encore, " L'ignorance est la noirceur de l'esprit".
I guess like you just said, their standard is too low....so sad and that is exactly what is going on with our leaders!!!

I totally agree with you Demavin, I understood your thoughts:). For a frange of our population, anything branded western will remain and look better than local. I don't know if you have already follow some comments on Nyota TV done by reporter Nono N'landu, you will be amazed because the words used are too overrated and I concluded maybe the guy never saw better. Maybe his standard is too low than ours....

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These ^^ houses are Goma and Bukavu Class B luxury homes. Those ARAMI houses are would not be classified as Luxury.



Nyotatv Needs a mind opening abou their own country. They need to make trips to Goma and Bukavu and see what they call Luxury and then stop living in small minded world.

These bellow are Number 1 Congolese A Class Luxury Houses.

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Vacationing in the USA. two months and I make the final move, here to pack my shit. Hew Bora, Golf-Lido and Kalubwe has outrageously rich home springing up.

Hi, is it Goma?

Vacationing in the USA. two months and I make the final move, here to pack my shit. Hew Bora, Golf-Lido and Kalubwe has outrageously rich home springing up.

So you're moving back home?

I want to move back home and help build a campaign against"Anything western is good" this is not true and thats what has been killing us for generations. I myself cannot stand when I go into a congolese family and listen to a father talking to his children in french. I think we should preserve our culture and our languages whereever we go just like them chinese do. I want to make a documentary where i will discourage congolese people from using french in their home but instead ensure that our kids and the next generation of diaspora will know what Lingala, Swahili, Luba and Kikongo and all other congolese languages are. French is not and will never be our language. I still wonder why mobutu didnt get rid of it during Zarianisation.

This past weekend in Calgary we lost a congolese brother. He was killed. Please remember him in your prayers. R.I.P Orphee Landa

I want to move back home and help build a campaign against"Anything western is good" this is not true and thats what has been killing us for generations. I myself cannot stand when I go into a congolese family and listen to a father talking to his children in french. I think we should preserve our culture and our languages whereever we go just like them chinese do. I want to make a documentary where i will discourage congolese people from using french in their home but instead ensure that our kids and the next generation of diaspora will know what Lingala, Swahili, Luba and Kikongo and all other congolese languages are. French is not and will never be our language. I still wonder why mobutu didnt get rid of it during Zarianisation.

This past weekend in Calgary we lost a congolese brother. He was killed. Please remember him in your prayers. R.I.P Orphee Landa


You need to use your language as a weapon. Two of my favorite songs, Franklin Boukaka from Congo Brazza sang against slave mentality.

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I want to move back home and help build a campaign against"Anything western is good" this is not true and thats what has been killing us for generations. I myself cannot stand when I go into a congolese family and listen to a father talking to his children in french. I think we should preserve our culture and our languages whereever we go just like them chinese do. I want to make a documentary where i will discourage congolese people from using french in their home but instead ensure that our kids and the next generation of diaspora will know what Lingala, Swahili, Luba and Kikongo and all other congolese languages are. French is not and will never be our language. I still wonder why mobutu didnt get rid of it during Zarianisation.

This past weekend in Calgary we lost a congolese brother. He was killed. Please remember him in your prayers. R.I.P Orphee Landa


that is good ideal but ask yourself is your name is Moto Pamba or Jean Desire Motopamba. Before you start to change anything, you need to know yourself who are you? are you Moto Pamba or Jean Desire Motopamba, i am not talk to you in particular but to all of us Congolese in generals.

Sorry for my english

Longonya

My real name is Mwamba. I tried signing up here with that name but it didnt work so I had to make one up and I chose Motopamba coz its the first name I thought of. I am not after making a revolution but I really, just like most of you here, love our culture and dont want to see that die at the expense of western influence. I have a first name that is french and I am planning to renounce it very soon. Already i force all my friends and family to call me by my congolese name. Just a matter of time before i make it official with the govt. I believe that we the congolese men, are responsible for keeping our culture and for that matter our country alive. Pride is nothing when it comes to matters of the heart

My real name is Mwamba. I tried signing up here with that name but it didnt work so I had to make one up and I chose Motopamba coz its the first name I thought of. I am not after making a revolution but I really, just like most of you here, love our culture and dont want to see that die at the expense of western influence. I have a first name that is french and I am planning to renounce it very soon. Already i force all my friends and family to call me by my congolese name. Just a matter of time before i make it official with the govt. I believe that we the congolese men, are responsible for keeping our culture and for that matter our country alive. Pride is nothing when it comes to matters of the heart

We are on the same page, bro. I'm planning to get rid of me Western first name. :cheers1:

I always disliked me first name ever since i was 9 years old. Now i have that chance.

We are on the same page, bro. I'm planning to get rid of me Western first name. :cheers1:

I always disliked me first name ever since i was 9 years old. Now i have that chance.

Can i ask, are you also going to remove your western religion? only if you Christean.

My real name is Mwamba. I tried signing up here with that name but it didnt work so I had to make one up and I chose Motopamba coz its the first name I thought of. I am not after making a revolution but I really, just like most of you here, love our culture and dont want to see that die at the expense of western influence. I have a first name that is french and I am planning to renounce it very soon. Already i force all my friends and family to call me by my congolese name. Just a matter of time before i make it official with the govt. I believe that we the congolese men, are responsible for keeping our culture and for that matter our country alive. Pride is nothing when it comes to matters of the heart


My brother MotoPamba, I am not saying what said is bad or what, if anything i am with you 100%, i already change my name or have to say i took my full name without those occidental name. look Etienne Thsisekedi say he is nationalist but he doesn't use Wa Mulumba again, now he want people to call him Etienne Thsisekedi and not Thsisekadi Wa Mulumba, if you ask him what Etienne mean i think he doesn't know, but if you ask him about Wa Mulumba i am sure he knows what it mean. i am not saying Etienne is bad but for someone who suppose to be nationalist i dont know.

I want to say

"I am not against E.Tshisekedi or his politic. We are talking about our culture Etienne was just one of those good example, as before i made example of Jean Desire."

Mon frere je suis avec toi a cent pour cent regarde les chinois ou les japonais tu ne peux pas rencontrer un japonais qui s'appelle Jean Desire jamais, mais pour seulement nous. il a certain congolais qui ont deux noms occidentaux et une seul congolais nom. si on fait pas attention on peut avoir une catastrophe des nos heritage que nos grand pere nous ont laisser.

My brother MotoPamba, I am not saying what said is bad or what, if anything i am with you 100%, i already change my name or have to say i took my full name without those occidental name. look Etienne Thsisekedi say he is nationalist but he doesn't use Wa Mulumba again, now he want people to call him Etienne Thsisekedi and not Thsisekadi Wa Mulumba, if you ask him what Etienne mean i think he doesn't know, but if you ask him about Wa Mulumba i am sure he knows what it mean. i am not saying Etienne is bad but for someone who suppose to be nationalist i dont know.

I want to say

"I am not against E.Tshisekedi or his politic. We are talking about our culture Etienne was just one of those good example, as before i made example of Jean Desire."

Mon frere je suis avec toi a cent pour cent regarde les chinois ou les japonais tu ne peux pas rencontrer un japonais qui s'appelle Jean Desire jamais, mais pour seulement nous. il a certain congolais qui ont deux noms occidentaux et une seul congolais nom. si on fait pas attention on peut avoir une catastrophe des nos heritage que nos grand pere nous ont laisser.

Salut, Penses-tu aussi de changer de religion

Can i ask, are you also going to remove your western religion? only if you Christean.

I said, me first name.

To the question. I'm not christian.

Salut, Penses-tu aussi de changer de religion

Salut, you don't know my religion, are you? i don't know where are you from but what MotoPamba said he is right.

We are on the same page, bro. I'm planning to get rid of me Western first name. :cheers1:

I always disliked me first name ever since i was 9 years old. Now i have that chance.

This is one thing that I really liked about Mobutu. Every Congolese in my opinion should have a Congolese name. You don't see french or belgium nationals with congolese names why then do we waste our time and culture naming kids names that have no meaning? As for the religion topic, we need to start a thread for that. I don't like the state of religion in our country right now. Many people have been brainwashed and can nolonger do anything when attacked because they have been told that "GOD will punish the evil ones" Am I the only person that thinks that Religion is being used as a tool by the government to control the people?

My brother MotoPamba, I am not saying what said is bad or what, if anything i am with you 100%, i already change my name or have to say i took my full name without those occidental name. look Etienne Thsisekedi say he is nationalist but he doesn't use Wa Mulumba again, now he want people to call him Etienne Thsisekedi and not Thsisekadi Wa Mulumba, if you ask him what Etienne mean i think he doesn't know, but if you ask him about Wa Mulumba i am sure he knows what it mean. i am not saying Etienne is bad but for someone who suppose to be nationalist i dont know.

I want to say

"I am not against E.Tshisekedi or his politic. We are talking about our culture Etienne was just one of those good example, as before i made example of Jean Desire."

Mon frere je suis avec toi a cent pour cent regarde les chinois ou les japonais tu ne peux pas rencontrer un japonais qui s'appelle Jean Desire jamais, mais pour seulement nous. il a certain congolais qui ont deux noms occidentaux et une seul congolais nom. si on fait pas attention on peut avoir une catastrophe des nos heritage que nos grand pere nous ont laisser.

Exactly my brother. You will not find a Belgium national or a french national called "Mwamba" or "Ilunga" or even "wamulumba" why we still do that is just another example why I want to go home and help change people's mentality. We shouldn't be giving our kids names with no meaning take pride in speaking and writing french. Let us take Tanzania as an example. If I remember very well they used to be a british colony. Today, the number 1 language their "Official" and most spoken is swahili. We don't even have any of our four national languages as an official language. I do not know of any western country that has an african language as its official language. Its a shame. We should limit french to using it with none congolese abroad but among ourselves. Lets speak our languages.

Lets use the Authenticity in modern age thread.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1021417

Guys, we should delete this thread, it's a disgrace.

I did some research on this project and i find that they were constructed by Moya homes and I went on their Facebook page. I asked them if they were operating in the DRC and obviously the answer was yes, i asked what was the price with no shame this dude tells me 1 000 000.00$, on la cite du fleuve it's higher than this and he tells me that in South Africa these wooden houses are about 70 000$ (i doubt it cause i live in South Africa and i never seen this rubbish anywhere). I told me that there is 60 000 000 of congolese people and 90% of us live with a dollar a day and this project is a scam and i asked if these house cost a 1000 000 dollar in Australia or USA. he deleted my post cause he knew i was telling the truth. Go check out http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moya-Homes/126365604060235 and they tell him what you think.

Guys, we should delete this thread, it's a disgrace.

I did some research on this project and i find that they were constructed by Moya homes and I went on their Facebook page. I asked them if they were operating in the DRC and obviously the answer was yes, i asked what was the price with no shame this dude tells me 1 000 000.00$, on la cite du fleuve it's higher than this and he tells me that in South Africa these wooden houses are about 70 000$ (i doubt it cause i live in South Africa and i never seen this rubbish anywhere). I told me that there is 60 000 000 of congolese people and 90% of us live with a dollar a day and this project is a scam and i asked if these house cost a 1000 000 dollar in Australia or USA. he deleted my post cause he knew i was telling the truth. Go check out http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moya-Homes/126365604060235 and they tell him what you think.


There is no reason getting agitated about this company’s pricing policy; let the law of the markert take care of them. If there are customers (nationals and foreign) stupid enough to disburse such an amount of money to buy such properties instead of constructing their own houses, fair enough for the developer. If not, the company will have made a bad investment and will therefore go to the wall in Lubumbashi. End of story.

There is no reason getting agitated about this company’s pricing policy; let the law of the markert take care of them. If there are customers (nationals and foreign) stupid enough to disburse such an amount of money to buy such properties instead of constructing their own houses, fair enough for the developer. If not, the company will have made a bad investment and will therefore go to the wall in Lubumbashi. End of story.

fair enough, anyways i will bring competitions in the country.

So the entrepreneur of Aramis project in L'Shi is also the one who build houses at Cité du Fleuve

http://www.magnaclad.com/pages/le_cite_du_fleuve/

So the entrepreneur of Aramis project in L'Shi is also the one who build houses at Cité du Fleuve

http://www.magnaclad.com/pages/le_cite_du_fleuve/
Yes

Qu'est devenu ce projet?

Je réitère ma question aux L'shois: Quid de ce projet?

Aucune idee.