Post development news for the city of Aba.

Post development news for the city of Aba.

I once read somewhere late last year that there are plans to build a brand new city in aba called the new aba city. It mirrors the same plans for the greater port harcourt city project. please I need confirmation. I still cant find concrete evidence yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRN6w8pNaqo

Thanks Maduabaymi, I have edited the youtube clip to look like below

FRN6w8pNaqo

Much appreciated Adebayoa...Please how do you install video footage direct on this forum, thanks once again.

Just put the id between 2 youtube tags and that should do it.

http://www.abiastate.gov.ng/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/211-538x218.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dAmuOm4.jpg

According to Gov.T.A Orji’s S.A on E-governance, South African developers, Pall Mall, the owners of Shoprite are in Umuahia as you read this to begin the development of the new Abia Shopping Mall.

Also, the Abia Hotels & Towers is being transformed into a world class hospitality destination.

Distinguished Abians in the house, how does this news sound to you ?

Source (http://www.southeastnigeria.com/blog/2012/12/04/governor-t-a-orji-kicks-off-abia-shopping-mall-abia-hotels-towers/)

no need calling a standard gas station strip mall a 'mall'.

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:lol:
Gotta love Nigerians!

Aba is doomed as the poster child of bad leadership. here a city that was industrialized when I was in Nigeria, and probably still is, to and extent that you won't see anywhere else in Nigeria other than Lagos but should have moved into the next phase of economic development by now. Genuine industry as well, manufacturing and building, but it's barbaric politics has froze it in time. sad.

^^
:lol:
Gotta love Nigerians!
So, it's not a mall? :?

What's your definition of a "Mall" ??

What's your definition of a "Mall" ??
Same as every educated person's definition of a "mall' -- a (often enclosed) shopping complex containing various stores, businesses, and restaurants usually accessible by common facillities.

I can see a plausible issue if this (or any other Nigerian strip mall) has been labelled as 'Mega Mall' or 'Super Mall' or some other such ascriptive term, but to question the appropriateness of a strip MALL (a term that both of YOU actually used) being merely referred to as a "mall" is, with all due respect, more than a wee bit vacuous.

What are u going on about???:ohno: Where did I question the in-appropriate use of the term "Mall"??? :| My initial comment/post was in reaction to a reference in a post attributed to the previous user.

they will call this a mall and call a substandard mall a mega mall, that's the problem. There was a bank that opened a customer service lounge and starting calling themselves state of the art because of it. It offered pastries and coffee

There was a bank that opened a customer service lounge and starting calling themselves state of the art because of it. It offered pastries and coffee

:hilarious: :hilarious:

Calm down! :lol: I almost choked on my snack reading this.

What are u going on about???:ohno: Where did I question the in-appropriate use of the term "Mall"??? :| My initial comment/post was in reaction to a reference in a post attributed to the previous user.
I'm "going on about" responding to the DIRECT question that you asked. :lol:

Meanwhile, what were YOU "going on about"?! Someone vacuously mocked the reference to a mall as a mall (even as he did so himself) and you seriously thought that was an appropriate "Gotta love Nigerians" moment?! SMDH

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Men........., ur intellectual deficiency in the interpretation of "mocked" and what it relates to, quite frankly, pronounces ur ignorance. If and when u want clarification as to my interpretation of "gotta love Nigerians" then, u are better off asking. U don't simply post jargons in a situation where ur fingers become twitchy. :nuts:

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Men........., ur intellectual deficiency in the interpretation of "mocked" and what it relates to, quite frankly, pronounces ur ignorance. If and when u want clarification as to my interpretation of "gotta love Nigerians" then, u are better off asking. U don't simply post jargons in a situation where ur fingers become twitchy. :nuts:
Anybody who says "jargons" should not even be uttering anything about 'intellectual'! :lol:

Joblesbegger, you are a very interesting forumer.

You are not Nigerian it would seem and yet you defend the country in virtually all your posts.

The way I have always seen criticism with regards to Nigeria is as follows:

1) If it is by a foreigner, criticizing in a very blunt manner - It should be denounced, because foreigners who do not know our country must not defame it
2) If it is by a Nigerian, who thinks that Nigeria is swimming in cash, it should be denounced
3) If it is by a Nigerian, but whithin limits and within reason, the problem is clearly preventable and clearly self inflicted, then I would follow it up with sacarsm, mockery, harsh criticism, warning etc
4) If it is by a foreigner, in a critical manner and in a friendly manner, I may welcome it

So.......with such a thing for example, I think the likes of Herachioblo and Tegh are right, because this is being marketed as a mall, when it really isn't and there is no need to do so. As per, demanding more from the state, well I am on the fence. Development in Nigeria has always been a matter of trial and error, so this might be Abia's first footing, but at the same time, even within limits, I think that more can be accomplished.

I don't think it is wrong to criticize Nigeria, but we need to take a step back and ask, if this is what we should be expecting in the Nigerian context and if the questions we are asking are informed or sincere.

I think you (Joblessbegger), probably perceive all criticism to be malicious and unwarranted.

I am not attacking you btw, I am just making an observation.

TBITE:
The issue of my nationality is irrelevant (not quite sure why you raise it).

Nevertheless, I do NOT "perceive all criticism to be malicious and unwarranted." In fact, I do not consider "all" criticism to be anything, as I consider EACH critique solely on its own merits. Perhaps, I am more a big picture sorta person, because in this particular case, all I see is a project sign that reads "Abia Mall" and a render that clearly depicts a strip mall. There are absolutely no attempts at pretensions (or deception) there, and accordingly I find the so-called "criticisms" here either an absurd form of projection or frankly just plain childish (if not completely vacuous). But to each his own -- so long as nobody's "criticism" is deemed beyond criticism.

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JSo.......with such a thing for example, I think the likes of Herachioblo and Tegh are right, because this is being marketed as a mall, when it really isn't and there is no need to do so.
Btw, that remains a head-scratcher. :?

The issue is quality control. More than anything, quality control is holding us back. A city like Onitcha has no reason to look like it does other than the fact that every person has been building and maintaining the cheapest and trashiest building possible, using the cheapest methods of providing light, and neglecting things deemed too expensive or unnecessary regardless of their budget like bathrooms and running water


the result is all of our cities, lagos included are a pile of cheap inferior shit. We clap about gallivant about Abuja which in all reality is a mediocre american city. Now consider the fact that Nigeria has half the population america does and you'll see that we simply deserve more that this nonsense. Every town in America above the population of 1000 has one of these. meanwhile Aba can be the capital of many african nations. This is a city that in it's self produces every consumer good you can think of, from TVs to shoes. Something as simple as giving Aba's manufactures a reasonable place to sell their goods can't be done. They'll have to save up, go to America or China and make those people rich because they don't have to be treated as 'deserving less' and thus receiving less when they doing just as much or more as their counterparts in america and china. With the amount of clothing lines young nigerians are starting, when in God's name can't that country provide them with decent malls to sell their merchandise? Nigeria isn't producing strip mall quality of quantity amounts of cloths, so why is their standard for distribution outlets being treated as if Aba is a city of 1000 people or Nigeria is a country with nothing to sell or offer?



these things aren't a matter of expectations or want, this is a matter of need and common sense. So much talent is leaked out of Nigeria daily because you have people with the talent to make nuclear plants having to study in schools without chalk in a rich country.

The issue is quality control. More than anything, quality control is holding us back. A city like Onitcha has no reason to look like it does other than the fact that every person has been building and maintaining the cheapest and trashiest building possible, using the cheapest methods of providing light, and neglecting things deemed too expensive or unnecessary regardless of their budget like bathrooms and running water

the result is all of our cities, lagos included are a pile of cheap inferior shit. We clap about gallivant about Abuja which in all reality is a mediocre american city. Now consider the fact that Nigeria has half the population america does and you'll see that we simply deserve more that this nonsense. Every town in America above the population of 1000 has one of these. meanwhile Aba can be the capital of many african nations. This is a city that in it's self produces every consumer good you can think of, from TVs to shoes. Something as simple as giving Aba's manufactures a reasonable place to sell their goods can't be done. They'll have to save up, go to America or China and make those people rich because they don't have to be treated as 'deserving less' and thus receiving less when they doing just as much or more as their counterparts in america and china. With the amount of clothing lines young nigerians are starting, when in God's name can't that country provide them with decent malls to sell their merchandise? Nigeria isn't producing strip mall quality of quantity amounts of cloths, so why is their standard for distribution outlets being treated as if Aba is a city of 1000 people or Nigeria is a country with nothing to sell or offer?

these things aren't a matter of expectations or want, this is a matter of need and common sense. So much talent is leaked out of Nigeria daily because you have people with the talent to make nuclear plants having to study in schools without chalk in a rich country.
Apples and oranges. The US is also almost $17 trillion (precisely $16.76 trillion) in debt, financed mostly by foreigners, so perhaps if Nigeria was to rack up debts of $8-9 trillion it will get more than this "nonsense".

As I often tell Nigerians, Nigeria is ultimately the culmination of the acts and actions of ALL Nigerians (either by omission or commission, and admittedly to varying degrees). However, I for one, while I keep harping on the urgency for modern infrastructure, am quite glad that Nigeria is not simply an imitation of the US (or the West) but rather that most Nigerian cities have been developed (either wittingly or otherwise, it does not really matter) to cater to and to accomodate the culture and livestyles of Nigerians (not Americans).

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Anybody who says "jargons" should not even be uttering anything about 'intellectual'! :lol:

Jargons

Yes.......! Need some education on the use of words in the english language? :| :nuts: :lol:
The intransigence you display is jaw-dropping. Then again, it's consistent with your character(judging by your posts).
Meanwhile, go ponder on actions necessary to placate for majority of your asinine posts/comments.

P.S:
I didn't "say" it, I "wrote" it. Obviously, something u can't comprehend. :lol:

Anybody who says "jargons" should not even be uttering anything about 'intellectual'! :lol:

Last i checked Jargon is still an appropriate English word, then again i checked a long time ago.

Apples and oranges. The US is also almost $17 trillion (precisely $16.76 trillion) in debt, financed mostly by foreigners, so perhaps if Nigeria was to rack up debts of $8-9 trillion it will get more than this "nonsense".

As I often tell Nigerians, Nigeria is ultimately the culmination of the acts and actions of ALL Nigerians (either by omission or commission, and admittedly to varying degrees). However, I for one, while I keep harping on the urgency for modern infrastructure, am quite glad that Nigeria is not simply an imitation of the US (or the West) but rather that most Nigerian cities have been developed (either wittingly or otherwise, it does not really matter) to cater to and to accomodate the culture and livestyles of Nigerians (not Americans).

You're talking about debt and I'm talking about humans. Places less significant in other countries have side walks and Lagos doesn't. That's the problem. More over if Nigeria 'accomodated' to nigerian culture we wouldn't have a conservative society and media based on cleveage, emphasis on cleanliness and filthy cities, and penchant for grandiosity and medicore to inferior EVERYTHING. I would say Nigeria is the least Nigerian country most nigerians will ever deal with. This is why Nigerians excel in the US but not at home. You act like the current situtation in nigeria was deliberately planned out.

Though i do completely agree that the country was formed by a collective of everyone's actions I'm not against people taking action to change it because clearly people aren't satisfied. We get intimidated by comparing ourselves to the US and more reasonable countries and start saying stupid things like apples and oranges to justify putting a road in the US and having street markers and sidewalks, and then putting a road in Nigeria without.


Can Nigeria not afford a better airport than this? Is that what you're implying? That we need a significant level of debt of have sidewalks and schools with desks? Have you seen the houses the governor of any of our states own in various countries? did you know that the presidential villa has more ambulances than the rest of nigeria combine? Is this because Ambulances and decent airports are an american thing? Does it take debt to put those ambulances elsewhere? If a local government chairman's motor convoy was liquidated and the money used to by ambulances it would double the ambulance count of the entire state being that they're non existent outside of Lagos.



This is the problem with Nigeria. More than corruption, more than insecurity, more than anything else, quality control. Corruption stems from the fact that a president can build an airport with half of his 'food allowance' and nigerians will justify the inferior airport by saying 'this is nigeria' or 'apples and oranges' when Ethiopia's airport looks like this
http://addisababaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Bole-international-airport.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ut1WPFbzHHg/Tg70Hy6OYxI/AAAAAAAAAq0/Dzru-ew4Qcw/s1600/The+Posh+Lounge+of+Addis+Ababa+Airport+Terminus..jpg

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@Herachiobio what are u implying?? The facility in that picture looks better than Nigerian airport(s)?? :ohno:

Murtala Muhammed
http://www.ynaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Murtala-Muhammed-International-Airport.jpg

...yes.

^^How many airports does Ethiopia have compared to Nigeria? If she has 5 Nigeria has 35. So picking one flashy Ethiopian airport doesn't tell the whole story. I'd rather Nigeria built many standard airports in different cities like she's doing, than do what Ethiopia does - building one flashy airport to take the breath away and little else.

but nigeria isn't building standard airports in different cities. Murtala Muhammed is a piece of shit and everything else is downhill from there. more importantly Nigeria has the capacity to build multiple 'breaktaking airports' but the money goes into politics and luxury items for politicians.

The government has improved airports in the country in the last 5 years...

That is a fact, the airports are looking better.

Mutala Mohammed......how many terminals have been upgraded/built now?

There is MMIA Domestic Terminal 1 ( MMDT1) formerly GAT which looks the best IMO, if you look at it from the western wing.
There is MMA 2

That is only in MM alone!

My understanding is that the government is remodeling the terminals first, before embarking on more grand schemes such as truly upgrading the airports.

I believe they are aware that they must upgrade Murtala Mohammed and Nnamdi Azikiwe, but for the mean time, they are remodeling terminals.

Edit: their plan sucks. Every renovation had been to low quality. If they make 15 renovations it'll be 15 hideous airports that will demoralize any visitor upon boarding. You think leaving Nigeria in a tin can and landing in a quality airport in Ghana has a mental effect on people?

@Herachioblo cease sensationalizing the issue. Once more, you and others alike are entitled to your views regarding aesthetic. However, they can't be said to represent standards. Gesticulating about Ethiopian airport(s) been aesthetically superior to Nigerian ones is really laughable. Interestingly enough, u have gone about posting the most outdated photos u could find for MMA. How about posting something more recent?:) At which point, we could begin the debate of what looks better.

Last i checked Jargon is still an appropriate English word, then again i checked a long time ago.
Please quit the jargon.
There's nothing like 'jargons'! :lol:

Jargons

Yes.......! Need some education on the use of words in the english language? :| :nuts: :lol:
The intransigence you display is jaw-dropping. Then again, it's consistent with your character(judging by your posts).
Meanwhile, go ponder on actions necessary to placate for majority of your asinine posts/comments.

P.S:
I didn't "say" it, I "wrote" it. Obviously, something u can't comprehend. :lol:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

The fact that you "wrote" it makes all the difference? So you cannot even pass it off as merely a coloquialism?

You're talking about debt and I'm talking about humans. Places less significant in other countries have side walks and Lagos doesn't. That's the problem. More over if Nigeria 'accomodated' to nigerian culture we wouldn't have a conservative society and media based on cleveage, emphasis on cleanliness and filthy cities, and penchant for grandiosity and medicore to inferior EVERYTHING. I would say Nigeria is the least Nigerian country most nigerians will ever deal with. This is why Nigerians excel in the US but not at home. You act like the current situtation in nigeria was deliberately planned out.
And what gave you the idea that Nigerians do not excel at home? :ohno:

Bro, you obviously have a distorted view of Nigeria, so perhaps you should actually try living here for a while. In the meantime, posting out of context pictures (yet again) does little or nothing to advance your positions. The same Addis Ababa has LESS paved sidewalks and streetlights than Lagos (not quite sure where you came up with the notion of a sidewalk-less Lagos). Nevertheless, your picture post would be akin to someone selectively posting a picture of the Abuja Stadium or the Airport Expressway as evidence of the state of Nigerian public infrastructure.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

The fact that you "wrote" it makes all the difference? So you cannot even pass it off as merely a coloquialism?

Oh gush..!

It's not "coloquialism", it's colloquialism. :lol:

If Indeed you had meant for your post/comment to be passed off as mere "coloquialism", :lol: you shouldn't in that case, make reference to my post/comment which by the way, I WROTE.

And what gave you the idea that Nigerians do not excel at home? :ohno:

Bro, you obviously have a distorted view of Nigeria, so perhaps you should actually try living here for a while. In the meantime, posting out of context pictures (yet again) does little or nothing to advance your positions. The same Addis Ababa has LESS paved sidewalks and streetlights than Lagos (not quite sure where you came up with the notion of a sidewalk-less Lagos). Nevertheless, your picture post would be akin to someone selectively posting a picture of the Abuja Stadium or the Airport Expressway as evidence of the state of Nigerian public infrastructure.
Lagos shouldn't have a worst airport than Addis. Period. I don't care if Lagos has move paved roads. It should have more paved roads/sidewalks and a better airport. Stop making excuses. Can you compare MMA to Ibrahim Babangida's home?

http://www.gistmania.com/talk/?action=dlattach&topic=64258.0&attach=26789&image
http://www.gistmania.com/talk/?action=dlattach&topic=64258.0&attach=26793&image

nothing in Nigeria has this level of quality and you know as well as I that i can go on and on with political opulence. But this same person will call this an airport.

http://voiceofnigeria.org/Nigeria/images/Akanu-Ibiam-Airport.jpg
both built with public funds

Lagos shouldn't have a worst airport than Addis. Period. I don't care if Lagos has move paved roads. It should have more paved roads/sidewalks and a better airport. Stop making excuses. Can you compare MMA to Ibrahim Babangida's home?

http://www.gistmania.com/talk/?action=dlattach&topic=64258.0&attach=26789&image
http://www.gistmania.com/talk/?action=dlattach&topic=64258.0&attach=26793&image

nothing in Nigeria has this level of quality and you know as well as I that i can go on and on with political opulence. But this same person will call this an airport.

http://voiceofnigeria.org/Nigeria/images/Akanu-Ibiam-Airport.jpg
both built with public funds

Jesus! that is Babangidas home? my god :ohno:. imagine if they (the government) were actually serious about making our Airports nice, if i was President i will start building a state of the art Airport right away. The first impression anyone has of Nigeria starts from the Airport, when that impression starts with MMA then that person will definitely go home with a sour taste left in their mouth.

That is not Babangida's home

Lagos shouldn't have a worst airport than Addis. Period. I don't care if Lagos has move paved roads. It should have more paved roads/sidewalks and a better airport. Stop making excuses. Can you compare MMA to Ibrahim Babangida's home?

http://www.gistmania.com/talk/?action=dlattach&topic=64258.0&attach=26789&image
http://www.gistmania.com/talk/?action=dlattach&topic=64258.0&attach=26793&image

nothing in Nigeria has this level of quality and you know as well as I that i can go on and on with political opulence. But this same person will call this an airport.

http://voiceofnigeria.org/Nigeria/images/Akanu-Ibiam-Airport.jpg
both built with public funds

I don't quite know how best one can get through to you. Consequently, I'II leave you to your inanity.

Lol you have graced by the Heratioblo/Ajepako experience :rofl:

To be honest the airport that disappoints me the most is the one in Abuja. Upon all the money that reach that place the end result is very very very basic or maybe I've only been privy to a few lackluster photos.

Lagos shouldn't have a worst airport than Addis. Period. I don't care if Lagos has move paved roads. It should have more paved roads/sidewalks and a better airport. Stop making excuses. Can you compare MMA to Ibrahim Babangida's home?
First, that's not Mr. Babangida's house.

Nevertheless, returning to the substance of the matter under discourse, you posted yet another out-of-context picture of one new terminal in Addis (which btw is hardly better than the MMIA that was built about 40 years ago) in a misguided attempt to show how other countries are supposedly more ambitious than Nigeria (never mind that Nigeria is presently modernizing 22 terminals simultaneously, rather than one relatively small terminal), but yet you proclaim not to "care if Lagos has more paved roads!" SMDH

PS: Btw, would it surprise you if you found out that there are more strip malls in the US (the same US that you want Nigeria to be like) than fanciful ones.

Lol you have graced by the Heratioblo/Ajepako experience :rofl:

Indeed! :lol:


To be honest the airport that disappoints me the most is the one in Abuja. Upon all the money that reach that place the end result is very very very basic or maybe I've only been privy to a few lackluster photos.

The terminal is nice, just not large enough. Plans are afoot toward addressing the situation. I think the Abuja airport was "earmarked" as one to get a BRAND NEW terminal; alongside MMA, Port harcourt and Kano.

That picture of Enugu airport juxtaposed with what the poster claims is IBB's house, is outdated.

15 airports including Enugu, are being remodelled, and contracts are out to build 6 brand new terminal buildings at key airports in the country.

That picture of Enugu airport juxtaposed with what the poster claims is IBB's house, is outdated.
15 airports including Enugu, are being remodelled, and contracts are out to build 6 brand new terminal buildings at key airports in the country.

True!

That picture of Enugu airport juxtaposed with what the poster claims is IBB's house, is outdated.

15 airports including Enugu, are being remodelled, and contracts are out to build 6 brand new terminal buildings at key airports in the country.
Exactly.