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LOL - go VicScrapers, only took 2 months to fill another Eureka Thread up, so far 2000 archived posts, plus about 2500 which were lost a while back - ownage!

:)

Dandaman pic spam:

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-09-23%20Melbourne%20-%20North%20Wharf%20Rd/IMG_1248.jpg

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-09-23%20Melbourne%20-%20North%20Wharf%20Rd/IMG_1240.jpg

Did the core rise happen late yesterday or early this morning?

i think early today?


great pix dan! it looks so slim from that angle? at 244m/800ft its now equal height with Sydney's tallest-Chifley tower (to the spire.lol).

http://home.t-online.de/home/highrises/sydchifl.jpg

also another fact. Eureka is also now the highest that Q1's concrete structure is going to be.

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/3748/P9222121.jpg

mmmm night shot. gw.
Its going to be intersting how this thing looks at night.

dan can you take a shot of the core from the arc bridge over southbank i wanna see the quality!

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

great pic hack! hey is that RDT Uc at far right? that should really stand ut when its 150m+!

RDT its infront of the green building. Only the crane is visible.
The far right one is qv :)

Good work! Love Albert Park shots, they are a nice angle. Used to be able to admire it quite a lot, I went to Venturers at the troop right on the edge of the water. Used to take the boats out quite a bit, good times :)

stu

Far, far right, that's QV

Bloody hell Hack!! Looks like you're really lovin' your new digicam! Ummm... how long have you had it for now ;)

similar view 14 years ago!

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ShowImage.asp?B=11725120&T=P&S=1

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ShowImage.asp?B=11725131&T=P&S=1

^

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-09-21%20Melbourne%20-%20Green%20Point%20and%20St%20Kilda%20pier/IMG_1147.jpg

pimp dan's photos good.

great pics guys but the pic that would be outstanding for everyone to see would be going to the core and taking a pic from there now that there has been a core rise you would think that the pic last time taken from the the core was high could you imagine how high it would be now

What an extraordinary building. We are so lucky to have it in our city. I think of some places where the citizens would be creaming whatever is fashionable to wear to have something this size in their skyline.

YET! So many Melburnians remain oblivious still. Quite unbelievable. I must point and sketch and explain its significance to so many. :bash:

The bigger it gets the better it gets. Keep that in mind when discussing the Big E. Thought has gone into its design and construction.

Cheers,

Adam

just try to remember that to most a building is a building is a building. It's good to have lots of other interests too, yeah?

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/4338/untitled364.jpg

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Great pics guys, amazing to see how high this is and to think that the Burj Dubai will be 800m+:eek: now that i will have to see to believe!

from the south (st kilda end of albert park, my usual view) the first Eureka
setback is much, much more pronounced than i expected. Guess this will be modified slightly by the fins, but this is going to be one slim Mother as the plates go to the upper heights !

^It is going to be slim isn't it! You can kinda make it out with this picture.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/Eurekafloor.jpg

holy crap.

Eureka measures 48m wide (east west) and 53m (north south). The 53m width stays same the whole way from ground to top BUT the east west elevation slims as it rises with the loss of the wings.The top 1/3 of E or from termination of eastern wing (lev65), the floor plates are only 25m wide!
Q1s is basically same shape/width the whole way up its egg shape- 38mx51m, but from lev75 or 220m its east/west shape reduces from 51m to just 40m deep.

what's taking this baby so long to rise up?!

lol

Yeah , the top diamond bit is going to be very narrow from the north , south view by the looks of things !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Is it just me or is the 53m north south facade slimmer after the first setback or just probably still under construction.

the north/south elevation of Eureka stays the same whole way tower. im positive?

eureaka looks really good and the area around iot is starting to get dense.

theres this one building in the world that would look magnificent with eureka if they were built a couple of hundred metres away from each other.

if you see the SImcity 4 rush hour game, on the front cover of the CD box, in the middle theres 3 towers rising up. the middle blue one is the one building that would look magnificent. or when u actually play simcity 4 rush hour, in the landmarks section look for the korean 63 building, the gold one.

its this one.

http://www.thesims.de/.../ landmarks/screens/63bld.jpg but visulaise it in blue/grey colour, or gold if u like it that way.

http://cnscenter.future.co.kr/ icisc01/main.html

hopefully it works now.

bugger it, well do it this way.

go to www.google.com

clcik image search

type "63 building" (without the commas, i used that to identify what u need to type in)

and that is the building im talking about.

Or you could even...

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=106770

bugger it, well do it this way.

go to www.google.com

clcik image search

type "63 building" (without the commas, i used that to identify what u need to type in)

and that is the building im talking about.

nah, the gold would deminish the impact of Eureka's gold crown...HOWEVER that would make for a nice Melb' scraper, just not near Eureka

I was just up the 63 building in Seoul the other day. In korean it's the youk sam building. Quite a cool building.

Don't know whether its been posted before, but a good one from a chopper, even if it's old:
http://shot2shot.no-ip.com/year/ko3.jpg
http://shot2shot.no-ip.com/year/ko3.jpg

Is it just me or is the 53m north south facade slimmer after the first setback or just probably still under construction.


maybe just a bit dated Hacksaw, but that's another very special find: something very serene and gentle about that sky.

Curtain, it took me a minute or two to work it out, but i think when Culwulla says the n-s elevation is a uniform 53m all the way up, it means that you get the narrower and tapering e-w elevation (48m-25m) with cutbacks when looking at it from the north or south - if that makes sense (and I guess you probably figured it out anyway). :cheers:

Shuzstar I put eureka into sc4 a while back.
:)
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/eursc4ka.jpg

It still needs some work and I haven't touched it in 6 months...

lol looks alright, needs to be a gold top, and maybe a little taller. or well thinner in a way.

Cant make gold in sc4, it doesnt do reflections. And yeah its from the plans so its really accurate. Simcity 4 does weird stretching stuff to some skyscrapers for some reason. /me shrugs

hey, wheres Abrain? last post was sept20.

maybe just a bit dated Hacksaw, but that's another very special find: something very serene and gentle about that sky.

Curtain, it took me a minute or two to work it out, but i think when Culwulla says the n-s elevation is a uniform 53m all the way up, it means that you get the narrower and tapering e-w elevation (48m-25m) with cutbacks when looking at it from the north or south - if that makes sense (and I guess you probably figured it out anyway). :cheers:

Nah I meant looking at it from east-west. Just looks like its slimming a little instead of being 53m wide almost to the top.

Just still under construction I suppose ;-)

You're not talking about that thing called depth perception?

A- Brain is in Europe CUL

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

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http://img79.exs.cx/img79/4173/P9282288.jpg

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/6431/Eurekapan.jpg

wow.

Great photos

Yeah those are awesome! It was a great day for it!

yeah nice pics again guys! How do you guys find time to take all these photos!!!

A- Brain is in Europe CUL

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:
dont they have internet in Europe? lol
guy gets around!
thanx

How do you guys find time to take all these photos!!!

Don't know about others but I'm on school holidays at the moment.

http://img79.exs.cx/img79/1368/P9282257.jpg

Jeez, look at the b33f from this angle, nice shot man, one of my favs so far.

stu

School holidays, how old are you?
I'm on holidays myself although school starts next week :/ but i might be able to get out on the weekend or so, if the weather is good, mihgt go into the city for the day, see a movie, take photos, walk. But lets see if this good weather holds out. hell if it is good tomorrow, i might then.

And yeah, lots of b33f.

I'm 15 (I use my dad's camera). It's always good to just wander around the city and take some shots, like I did today. Looks like tomorrow will have some sunny weather:
http://www.bom.gov.au/gms/IDE00035.latest.shtml
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDV10450.txt

Hacksaw, your a talented person. We love your shots. I save some your photos in my Melbourne fold, as I get homesick.

OOH!

I have a photo from that same angle taken about 11 years ago.

Must find it in my huge collection because it has a date with the scanner.

Cheers,

Adam

nice, post it up, and we can compaire! Now wait another 11 years and take another photo from that angel and see how much the city has changed.

nice, post it up, and we can compaire! Now wait another 11 years and take another photo from that angel and see how much the city has changed.
actually that view wont change much in 11 years.that area is the only zone for highrise . Dont think you will see Prima or FWP2 in that view either.
still looks impressive.

Gday Cul .

I think A-Brain just wants a break from the site for a while as he is overseas

cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

dont blame him. lol

i was at Eureka around 3-4 weeks ago at level 55 the views were great on one side you have rialto standing out of nowhere then you have crown on the other side and the mcg on the other i was too late to go to the core though but that would have been great keep updating them pics

How did you get in there? :)

How long now till it's equal to the Rialto?

Is it true that there is a plan to place a 50 metre spire on the top of the Rialto?

The QV building will be the tallest in Australia, but will it be without it's spire? How many levals will it have?

How long now till it's equal to the Rialto?

Is it true that there is a plan to place a 50 metre spire on the top of the Rialto?

The QV building will be the tallest in Australia, but will it be without it's spire? How many levals will it have?
Eureka's core is currently 244m, so next rise it will equal Rialto at 250m+.
Rialto has had a 50m spire proposed. nothing has happened since lodgement 18 months ago.
"QV" or Q1 will rise to 275m to glass fin or 322m to spire. So Eureka is 22m higher to roof.
Q1 will have total of 80 floors (78 above).
cheers

And let us hope that the planned spire for the Rialto doesn't go through. Sure they may want to put it up to claim back Melbourne's tallest title.... but I have a hard time envisioning any spire on it that would fit. Love Rialto the way it is, hope they don't ruin it.
stu

I gather there's been no crane rise today? Disappointing. We should be expecting one tomorrow maybe?

How did you get in there? :)


I was doing work experince at a company and my job was to go to all these sites with a supervisor inculding freshwater place, yarras edge, eureka and E&Y plaza to shoot a video on drugs and alcohol on construction sites it was great fun, and guys when is the next crane rise it has been a week since the core rise so you would expect there to be a crane rise soon hopefully

a spire for the RIALTO!!! really? . hmmmm...that could work. is it meant to be decorative or will it be covered with ugly antenna's?
Just a pole from the roof? attached to the edge?

nobody thump me but I still think a spire on eureka COULD work if done propperly but lets not go there again.

a spire for the RIALTO!!! really? . hmmmm...that could work. is it meant to be decorative or will it be covered with ugly antenna's?
Just a pole from the roof? attached to the edge?

nobody thump me but I still think a spire on eureka COULD work if done propperly but lets not go there again.
heres a plan Grollo kindly posted last year!
the mast means removal of current plantroom, so official height goes from 251m down to 248m. then the mast totals 301m high. because its an antenna, it wont be counted as official height.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/rialto20mast.gif

Yep because once you even tape a rabbit ears TV antenna to a spire it suddenly becomes architecturally void :-)

Hmm speaking of which .. I'm sure Sydney Tower has a few of those ;-)

I thought that antenna prop was officially dumped a while ago... or is it still possible? :no:

hmmmm...thanks for posting the plan. now that iv'e seen it i think our beloved Rialto should be left as is.

I think us forumers should assemble around the rialto and give it a big group hug to thank it for being our tallest (to roof) building for so long and giving us so much joy.
It must feel very sad when it looks across the yarra...think it's time for my medication :runaway:

Yes, get some more pills...
Anyway hugging a building :/ I dont think there would be enough of us to even hug one side, maybe a piller in the foyer or somthing.

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/9315/P9302341.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/2855/Eureka.jpg

I know...I just had a pang of sentimentality there for a moment.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/yyyyih/newDSC02153.JPG

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/yyyyih/newDSC02156.JPG

as yyyih's pic shows, there was a crane rise today - i thought it would have already been reported.

:wtf: Since when are they working on weekends? Great to see though! I thought for a moment your pic was a photoshop special yyyih as I noticed by COB on Friday the crane hadn't risen.

so is that still a chance Cul ?

I think we can safely assume now after this latest crane rise, that the top of the crane is how tall this mofo will be.

But we have no clue what 53m x 25m of solid concrete that high looks like in Australia ;-)

ps. This is also as high as any core box other than Eureka will go for the next 10 years probably, thats including Vision and Q1.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/eureka.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/southbanklineup3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/southbanklineup2.jpg

stu

I think we can safely assume now after this latest crane rise, that the top of the crane is how tall this mofo will be.

But we have no clue what 53m x 25m of solid concrete that high looks like in Australia ;-)

ps. This is also as high as any core box other than Eureka will go for the next 10 years probably, thats including Vision and Q1.
the current height of Eureka's corebox is 244m. The level 79 LMR on Q1 will reach 245m. so not quite there yet.next rise and Eureka will equal Rialto but the one after is where Australia hasnt been before with reaching 257m high!!

Gonna be great when people are living in it and the tower is lit up at night, same with the other residentials going up around southbank.

Gday

Yeah , Rialto only has about 20 days or so to enjoy its title as tallest to roof in Australia. After 2 more rises , Eureka takes the cake ! :rock:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

There is a Core Pour on today ! :banana: :lock:

Hopefully, we will get a rise on Wednesday or Thursday this week taking Eureka over the 250 Metre mark !!

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Eureka is currently 9th tallest concrete structure in Australia!

#current tallest concrete structures in Australia.
MIM Chimney ,Mt Isa,QLD-274m-1978
Loy yang Chmneys (2),latrobe valley,,VIC-260m-1986
Loy Yang B chimney, latrobe valley, VIC-255m-1988
Rialto,Melb,VIc-251m-1986
Bayswater chimneys (2),Huntervalley,NSW-250m,1986
Mt piper chimney, Lithgow, NSW-250m-1992
Eureka,melb-244m UC oct,2004 level75.

damn, loy yang does not look that big, well it does, seeming its the biggest thing for awhile, but then i guess its also near morwell, and thats a hilly place.

9th tallest hey...you left out 2, oh well, still wait a few weeks and it will be a magnificent sight.

Seen Mt piper chimney, in Lithgow a few times and its an impressive site :)
But it dont deserve the title that far up !

damn, loy yang does not look that big, well it does, seeming its the biggest thing for awhile, but then i guess its also near morwell, and thats a hilly place.

9th tallest hey...you left out 2, oh well, still wait a few weeks and it will be a magnificent sight.
left out 2? theres no other concrete structure in Australia over 240m.
the next tallest is a stack in Callide, QLD at 230m and of course World Tower.

thanks for the latest pics Sakor1. We're pigs, and sometimes forget to say it :wink2: .

Has anyone got any photo's of these chimneys? i'm quite interested to have a look

Has anyone got any photo's of these chimneys? i'm quite interested to have a look

quoted in Australian construction mag as "AUSTRALIA'S TALLEST BUILDING", the MIM chimney was such an engineering feat. the 270m stack has a flue which protrudes 4m above rim to total 274m high.
It is still Australia's tallest self-supported structure held since 1978.
Using slip-form technique, the stack was built in only 14 weeks (taper from 22m-12m), due to extreme heat, the workers cabin was air-conditioned. The stack also is fitted with internal lift and also the essential air-craft beacon!

http://www.home.railscene.com/zanatta/nonda83/nonda040.jpg
at just under 900ft, it real dominates the Mt Isa landscape.

http://www.home.railscene.com/zanatta/nonda83/nonda039.jpg
the "twin towers" of the south! The 260m Loy Yang power station stacks.
the largest chimneys in Australia! (dia 25m -18m) those cooling towers are 114m.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1057179103786_2003/07/04/4bozloy_yang,0.jpg
the 255m Loy Yang B stack

http://www.industcards.com/loy-yang-b.jpg

the 250m twin stacks at Bayswater, Hunter valley

http://www.macgen.com.au/about_us/images/bayswater.jpg

the 250m stack at Mt piper, Lithgow

http://www.tenix.com/ImageLibrary/197l.jpg

WOW CUL . Those Chimney's really dominate the sky ! A bit like Eureka now.

I was looking at Eureka and the Freshwater Place Complex from the Melbourne Aquarium on the Yarra River yesterday , and i can't believe how MASSIVE Eureka is from Sea Level !!!

No joke , you really just have to see it in real life to appreciate how bloody huge it is ! No pictures can really justify how enormous it really is !!

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

thanks for the latest pics Sakor1. We're pigs, and sometimes forget to say it :wink2: .

lol, thanks.

stu

heres a quick diagram i did showing Australia's tallest chimneys hiding our tallest scrapers.lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/oztallchimneyss.jpg

Love those stacks!

According to Macquarie Generation the Bayswater stacks are only 248m high, see here:

http://www.macgen.com.au/about_us/Comm_Report04/Community_Report04.pdf

Loy Yang A needs those big stacks because it is the most polluting power station in the nation. This single power station pumps 17.3 million tonnes of carbon dioxide into the air each year which is 50% more Emissions than all of the cars in Victoria combined!

thanks for informing me about Bayswater stacks. yet another figure "rounded up" from 248m -to 250m..
pollution, what can we do? lol
build them 1000m high.

Jesus thats scary grollo thanks for the pic's and diagram Cul thats awesome, i guess u have to see them in person to get a real idea of what they are like, still massive looking structures tho.

it's not concrete of course, but anyone here been to the Omega Mast in Gippsland?
any pics?
can someone put a side by side image of it against Eureka for scale please?

Well loy yang, a and b, and then a few other powerplants are all about 5km away form morwell, the town was basically built in a big 'ol patch of coal, and well it had about 5 power plants surrounding it. I used to go there lots, to see my grandma, untill she pasted away, but she is buried near loy yang A. Wow, never knew that there were smoke stacks as high as out tallest buildings.

Riparian is almost as good looking as that MIM chimney, thanks Cul !!! ;)

Folks, can we please re-focus on EUREKA? We have digressed a little here. :runaway:

I know that it kinda relates to the tallest concrete structure theme, but I'd much prefer (as I sure that you all would too) on this thread to read about concrete pours and when the next rise is.

Let's re-focus ...

Cheers :cheers:

its cool adam. its good sometimes to digress.just for guys who aernt familiar with tall structures comparable to big E.

still a couple of weeks to next rise.
anyway, did a tell you about this chimney it was................................................

Know I've gone on about this before but your average Melburnian knows nothing about this tower.

It's like it's not there.

I meet a lot of people every day and have started asking them about it. Clueless. Pointed it out on the skyline. Clueless.

You may not be interested in skyscrapers but are our citizens blind? Chop down a tree in St. Kilda Rd and you'd get more reaction from Melburnians than a 297m structure poking them right in the eye.

U N B E L I E V A B L E !

Cheers,

Adam

Know I've gone on about this before but your average Melburnian knows nothing about this tower.

It's like it's not there.

I meet a lot of people every day and have started asking them about it. Clueless. Pointed it out on the skyline. Clueless.

You may not be interested in skyscrapers but are our citizens blind? Chop down a tree in St. Kilda Rd and you'd get more reaction from Melburnians than a 297m structure poking them right in the eye.

U N B E L I E V A B L E !

Cheers,

Adam

I know what you mean! I think every time I have been up at Rialto people have disussed it next to the window and I just can't help myself but to tell people about it! "Well that is going to be taller then this buildings..."Wow really" etc etc

CUL , the next Eureka Core rise will be sometime between today and friday. The core pour was on monday :lock:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Indeed. I've had a late bout of the cold that everyone seems to have had, so I've been very quiet of late. However, a couple of weeks ago I happened to be up the top of Rialto when the last core rise began happening. How many people were paying attention or noticed the core box gradually went up six metres? Bugger all!

The lack of public awareness about this monster is quite amazing. With the floor plates at about 188m, core at 244m and crane well up towards 300m above ground, Eureka is dominating the Melbourne skyline especially from the southern and eastern suburbs, when the main bulk of the tower has another 100 metres still to go (i.e. not the core). Eureka will be about 25th tallest in the world by roof height on completion; by floor count, there are only six high-rises in the world with more floors!

Brilliant! :cheers: (you know which advert I mean)

Edit: SkyscraperPage.com diagram of talls by floor count (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?7666622) - even including that white elephant in P'yongyang - the world's tallest hotel (for birds and insects). That disaster aside, Eureka is in very good company here.

I know to us the apparent ignorance is astounding but we also need to keep perspective. (please don't disown me - I'm not a traitor)
There is quite a lot of other things that "buzz" people and to "Joe Public" a building is just a building.People expect them in a city.People, sadly, seldom look up like us and dream and imagine. They are too caught up in the day to day and have differing priorities.
sorry for stating the bleeding obvious but most people wouldn't give a shit and they are entitled to. It's just diversity.

But all people are aware of, and very often proud of, the Railto, which is also a big building. I am sure the Eureka will be on everyones lips by about 2012

I've actually had one of my best friends comment that she doesn't think it looks that tall yet.
Now this is because I've told her its the tallest apartment building in the world so I guess that puts an expectation in one's mind that its going to absolutely tower over Melbourne.
It will eventually of course, but until the floorplates catch up to the core, I think it'll remain unnoticed for a few more months yet.
The bulk will be what gets people's attention.

I edited my render into Ipggi's great shot!
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/4e.jpg

But all people are aware of, and very often proud of, the Railto, which is also a big building. I am sure the Eureka will be on everyones lips by about 2012

Saddly I guess it just takes time.
Also, to the casual observer, back when rialto was built there was nothing like it in Melb'.
apathy sucks.
just wait til that gold crown is done...Eureka will be yelling "hey you little people down there, check ME out"!!
plus I still maintain that the horizontal white lines defy it's true height.
same theory in clothing...ask any woman.

beautiful dan!!
i reckon when gold bars are completed on Eureka and its officially announced as "worlds tallest apartments" which will be televised with Daniel Grollo cutting ribbon, then most melburnians will notice Eureka!!! its design is too striking to go unnoticed!!
its not just another skyscraper.its iconic design and shear size will make it Melbs newest attraction, especially when ob decks are opened!

Wow, awesome render, its going to look bloody unreal!!!

Shit ,

Eureka makes FWP Office on the right and Herald Sun on the left look like "TIDDLERS !"

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Fascinating Rendition !!!

Actually, some people *are* starting to notice it, especially people at or near Southbank. I was walking around Southbank earlier today and I seriously doubt it is coincidence when I see quite a few people gaze up at the general direction of E (which is pretty much, UP ;)), with more than lingering glances as well...

I agree that it doesn't look that tall yet though, as I was crossing the Yarra I compared it to Rialto and R seemed at least 20 - 30m taller still, when in fact it's less than 10m taller now.

The core is really skinny now so it doesn't give it much presence. As already mentioned, once the flootplates catch up in 6 months time and the gold top goes up, one will have to be a damn naive person NOT to notice it! :)

Great Render , Can someone please tell me what that area coloured sort of purple Half way up Photo [Ground Level ], right hand side , looks like there is a large Banner there as well? :)


I edited my render into Ipggi's great shot!
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/4e.jpg

If you mean the rust coloured building, it is the Australian Centre for Contemporary Art (ACCA). The red vertical tower just to the left of it is the ventilation shaft for the Citylink tunnel.

indeed, and if you look even closer you will see the much maligned Vault "yellow peril" who's location was being discussed in another thread.

its cool adam. its good sometimes to digress.just for guys who aernt familiar with tall structures comparable to big E.

still a couple of weeks to next rise.
anyway, did a tell you about this chimney it was................................................

Cheers again and thanks mate!

I edited my render into Ipggi's great shot!
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/4e.jpg

mate .... MATE .... MATE .... M A T E ! ! !

That is one hot sexy beeach of a shot. Great work, I dips me lid as you put something beautifully into perspective that we can all enjoy. Thanks.

guess i've looked at pictures of this bldg 1000 times and I've STILL been confused about how those angles in the top 1/3rd will emerge - uewepuep's render showing an angular projection from the gold crown came as a complete surprise ! The render also emphasises for me just how very narrow E is going to appear over the upper reaches from the south - i can't wait until the second setback cuts in. A very fascinating building ...

its a great render uewepuep ...a real taster, but the real thing in solid blue/white/gold form will be even more striking. agog train travellers will be stepping off empty platforms and getting crushed with surprise.

heres a quick diagram i did showing Australia's tallest chimneys hiding our tallest scrapers.lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/oztallchimneyss.jpg

I liked your other chimney diagram Culwulla. ;) In 1999, before skyscrapercity, I received a fax from a woman in Sydney council with a handdrawn diagram of chimneys and other tall structures in Australia, drawn by you! I was fascinated by it and I've kept it til this day, with all the other articles and diagrams of buildings I've found on the net.

Scan it and post it then, if you can.

guess i've looked at pictures of this bldg 1000 times and I've STILL been confused about how those angles in the top 1/3rd will emerge

The top third broke my mind for AGES too. It was really hard to do on the computer.
Culwulla sent me down the plans for the thing (THANKS CUL!) I've scanned them in to ease the confusion.
Its a crazy building, I gained so much respect for it going through the plans.

Alright, Check out mainly the right hand side. The line running down the side on an angle. Thats the bit that at the top juts out so much. It sticks out the bottom the opersite way. Its hard to describe.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/e4.jpg
My model isn't that accurate when it comes to that line. I couldnt work out how to do it properly :S

Notice which way the sticky out bits face.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/e3.jpg

Just a wee bit further down the tower. The stickyouty bit is getting smaller.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/e2.jpg

Now down at the second setback. See hwo the sticky outy bits now face the other direction? It swaps sides in the middle from the BOTTOM setback.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/e1.jpg

The best render ever for showing it is this one which I found somewhere.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/From%2520230m.jpg
Its kind of like someone twisted the top of the tower slightly.

yes its an amazing structure. the top is unique indeed

Sorry, it's been explained to me but I still don't get it.

Cheers,

Adam

wow, mind boggling, i kind of get it, but i will get it better once i see it finished.
it is a great peice of architecture.

It is something hard to get your head around until we see it done I think... like uewepuep said it is like someone has physically twisted the top of the tower a bit around so it has stuck at varied angles..... well so much for boring scraper tops, this will be anything but as we know ;)

stu

thanks v. much for the plans and top render uewepuep: they certainly help - but i was never any good with rubic's cube either.

conclusions:

1. Nonda K. was in no way being lazy when he got to designing the top of this building.

2. Left side plan is what me and my dog will see from Albert Park .. slim and sexy.

3. Dotted line on over the top and down the side of the right hand plan must be that crazy ride.

4. I will never get on that ride.

Its Crazy , in a spectacular way of course ! :rock:

Can't wait to c it in real life once it takes shape ! :banana2:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

That's a fantastic render of the top of the building.
Looks like there is a glass roof on the top too.
Open air viewing deck???

That's a fantastic render of the top of the building.
Looks like there is a glass roof on the top too.
Open air viewing deck???
nah, the top area is plantroom and BMU access only. ob deck is 3 levels from top.

Wind problems for 4 hours this morning in Melbourne. Workers have gone home , so probably wont be a core rise till tomorrow !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

i only want to look at Eureka!!
http://ecard.atnext.com/ecard/weather/windy/image/large/windy002.gif

Construction worker>http://www.scotlandonline.com/admin/features/uploaded_toons/windy_trig.gif
its just abit of breeeze. we can still rise!! pleease!!

could i ask when there is a crane rise with the main crane on top of the core at the same time is there a crane rise with the other crane?

P.S too windy no crane work for another day

^^^

Yes, both crane rises normally happen at the same time Porsche

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

nah, the top area is plantroom and BMU access only. ob deck is 3 levels from top.
Isnt that deck 3 levels from the top? arent the plant rooms in the "golden horns" which are 3 levels above the deck?

http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/From%2520230m.jpg

It was so damn windy in Melbourne today, the cafe I go to in the morning before work had its steel chairs and dividers blown over! I doubt if there was any crane movement happening on any site in Melbourne let alone the big E!!

Gday

l'd love it if the Eureka Observation Deck was on level 88 ish , so you could walk out on the roof between the gold blades! :banana2:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Isnt that deck 3 levels from the top? arent the plant rooms in the "golden horns" which are 3 levels above the deck?

http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/From%2520230m.jpg
yes.
level 88 ob deck is highest blue glass floor, so no access to floor above. maybe one day if the silly rise takes off this could be way up.

Surely they could put some stairs up to the roof of level 88?

^^ I don't see why not! The "level 89" rooftop open air observation deck would be at about RL 293m, eh? Bring it on!

I must point out a glaring error in this render:
http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/From%2520230m.jpg

With the full bands of white glass occurring every three floors, if the pattern is to continue without alteration then the last full band of white glass will be above level 88 at the roofline, *not* below it, as appears here!

Regards, Philip (Pedant)

Actually, an even more glaring error presents itself: the render has 9 sections of blue glass plus 1 floor above the western setback, so the top floor of the blue-glassed section (not counting the crown) should be 64 + 9 x 3 + 1 = 92!

*looks outside*

I'll get my coat.

larven / gothicform created that render about a year ago now I think?

uewepuep
I edited my render into Ipggi's great shot!
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/4e.jpg

That render really excites the imagination, imagine what that small stretch of southbank will look like in 3-5 years with Eureka, FWP (north and south), Price waterhouse, prima (hopefully the big version) and RDT all completed. It will be truly amazing. Anyone want to try put that in a render or am i just being greedy. Oh and great render uewepuep everyone i've shown it to has loved it, yet tragically asked 'which building is that' completely oblivious to the giant that looms over the city.

Oh I forgot to mention i 3-5 year times there will also probably be another 10 shitty CE apartment buildings in the background, bad buildings, good fillers

^^ I don't see why not! The "level 89" rooftop open air observation deck would be at about RL 293m, eh? Bring it on!

Regards, Philip (Pedant)

Level 89 would be 285.85m above ground level.

Actually, an even more glaring error presents itself: the render has 9 sections of blue glass plus 1 floor above the western setback, so the top floor of the blue-glassed section (not counting the crown) should be 64 + 9 x 3 + 1 = 92!

*looks outside*

I'll get my coat.

Okay so I was one floor out....jeez.

As someone said before it gives a good impression of how the top will come out. I have other renders of the top, I'll send them to tays and see if he can kindly host them so people can better understand how it works.

larven I love your work, some people can be so ungreatful sometimes!

MG2

I think some people need to check their definition of a 'glaring error'
Jeezus

Guys, i thought the observation deck took up 2 levels ???

Is it 87 & 88 ? Or 88 and 89 ?

cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

87&88

larven I love your work, some people can be so ungreatful sometimes!

Before anyone else joins the bandwagon trying to read something that wasn't actually in the original message, no offence was intended!

Anyway, I evidently slipped up before by calculating the *roof* of level 89 rather than the *floor*, which amounts to a difference of oh, about 3.5 metres. Duly chastened I will scuttle back to my cave and keep my calculating to myself :)

If I had remembered larven's render from a year ago had the western setback at 61 rather than 64, then I would have not made such a deal, as that *has* been pointed out on a few occasions and I wouldn't be concerned nitpicking about it now. I'm sorry I didn't recognise it was larven's work that had been posted in, however it wasn't attributed. (Thanks Tayser.)

Apologies all round. Anyway, back to matters at hand:

Lozza, after the cancellation of the level 87 nightclub, my understanding is that the observation deck was going to be two floors across 87 and 88. As pointed out, 89, 90, and 91 are the mechanical floors in the gold crown.

Nice weather this morning and a little bit windy, but the crane out the window is in operation, so a very good chance of a core rise this afternoon - the last was 16 days ago on 23/9.

adamonline, i know what you mean - i even talk to archi students who say, "so, have they built eureka yet?"

dan - u da man! but i don't get what you're trying to explain!

what amazes me is that the plans show that when you face eureka "straight on" (i.e. standing on, say, flinders st, the "jagged edge" that we see is not actually symmetrical, but oddly angled! awesome!!!

i just hope that the gold cladding better not turn out like the grand hyatt, which is so so so 80s! and they used gold infused glass too! i hope that it will be a gleaming crown, like a gold-coloured high sheen metallic facade, like titanium, only gold!

Yeah , i found out today from George , the "on site chief foreman" that the deck is on level 88

Also, he said that its all enclosed , and no part of the deck is outside

cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Well then what is on level 87??

A theme park.

Probably offices on 87 , or another penthouse maybe ???

cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

larven's stuff:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/renders/southbank/eureka/Summit-low-res.jpg

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/renders/southbank/eureka/Summit-2-low-res.jpg

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/renders/southbank/eureka/Eurekaaerial.jpg

bout a megs worth of images there :)

Well then what is on level 87??
when i chatted to Sydney Towers Skywalk manager last year, he informed me about the "ride" atop Eureka plus how Eureka wont be having a restaurant or club due to they just dont make money. He said lev88 will be observation and 87 maybe a convention type set up or something similar. All i know is that they sure have a great peice of property to deck out. not many places in Australia at 87 floors or 280m above ground to "let out" to perspective tennants. lol

How about the 1/6th of a mile high club. Daily Planet like to invest in property don't they.

Since we didn't get a core rise today... here are some pics from the last one instead (yes silvermb, I've finally gone and registered with photobucket)

September 22, 2:45 pm:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/phi1ip/Eureka/200409221445.jpg

Two close-ups, about 4:20 pm, as 72 came into view:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/phi1ip/Eureka/200409221621.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/phi1ip/Eureka/200409221627.jpg

nice devil horns painted on the level 69 number.
speaking of which I wonder which level Bob and Blanch bought their love den on? eeuuuwwww:puke:

great shots!

I want an outdoor, elevated, open, unobstructed, non roofed, low railed,at say 300m. high observation deck up on top of this building..........please.

Would be very cool, but it would not be low railed. well, depends how they set it out. but i doubt that we will get one of the very top, have to wait for the attraction thingy.

Also........while I'm here. I think a mast on top of the Rialto would detract from it's strong profile.If it is for antenna or transmission work shouldn't it go on the highest building to avoid ghosting etc. If designed well a tower or mast atop the Eureka.......protruding from an open rooftop observation deck could look cool. Can you imagine The Empire State Building in NY without it's tower on top.Nup!!! It would also finish any debate about the rival Q1 which is obviously a shorter building.Early diagrams of the Eureka show a spire above the roof? Was the overall height agreed on so when some floors were added the spire had to go ?

Hey Drunkill, I know a low rail sounds strange but the Open Deck that was on top of The World Trade Center in NY was amazing ........being elevated and inside the perimeter of the tower they did away with cages etc. No so called tourist thingo ride??? need be put up there when the thrill would be just being there. All your senses just taking in the openness and view.

Now *thats* some zoom :)

No spire, please.

@culwulla, you often state that Eureka cannot go 1 cm above the height it is yet are willing to concede that it may get a "ride" on top that could go higher.

I am, as you know, easily confused.

Cheers,

Adam

good to see more work happening on the weekends now i didnt think they would work on saturday's but looks like they have really thought about it and there putting in extra effort to complete it in time and no way did i think they would have worked on a sunday for the past 2 weeks i've seen crane movement on the sundays

anyone know anything about the next core rise its been a while so its gotta be soon

This core rise should just about take it above Rialto ? Or the following ? Should make the TV News and Papers.

do people care ?
sure they can be made to

No spire, please.

@culwulla, you often state that Eureka cannot go 1 cm above the height it is yet are willing to concede that it may get a "ride" on top that could go higher.

I am, as you know, easily confused.

Cheers,

Adam
adam, im sure the guy i talked to about the ride indicated that the ride "comes out" in morning and is "housed" at night, thus not adding to height. It will be housed in top plantroom. sort of like a BMU cleaning arm.
so for some part of the day it will add approx 3m to Eureka's height and then disappear,lol
cheers

Thanks for the clarificaton, cul.

Is this "ride" scared of Vampires?

Cheers,

Adam - faced with the plain odd.

Yes, can't allow any overshadowing at night.

Since we didn't get a core rise today... here are some pics from the last one instead (yes silvermb, I've finally gone and registered with photobucket)

September 22, 2:45 pm:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/phi1ip/Eureka/200409221445.jpg

whats that pretty building in the background in amongst all the trees... looks like an american university you see in the movies

Where The Governor of Victoria lives and where Betty stays when in town.

Really?! what a rort!! should be public space, not some luxury playground for some pompus outdated and unnecessary public servant

well you can walk there, its in the botanical gardens, so it is public space, there is just a fence around the building, i think.

if you want to continue talking about the so-called Victorian and Federal consitutional rorts, go start a thread about it elsewhere and keep this thread on topic.

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/2356/Eurekapano.jpg

sick pic

:eek2:

sydneys KPMG has similar stripes !
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/kpmg.jpg

There was a core pour last Monday , but still no rise , 1 week later mind you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rant: :mad: :bash: :wallbash:

HURRY UP !! :rant: :mad: :bash: :wallbash:

Lozza :bowtie:

Actually Cul, the stripes on SEG Plaza, Shenzhen, are much more like Eureka:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/naptown05/235976.jpg

The pattern here is one full length stripe every fifth floor, rather than every third floor as with the big E.

A couple of renders (which have probbaly been posted before but still pretty cool).

http://www.designsolutions.lt/naujienos/image/fkau1.jpg

http://www.designsolutions.lt/naujienos/image/fkau2.jpg

http://www.designsolutions.lt/naujienos/image/fkau4.jpg

Gday

I went up the Rialto Observation Deck today , and it was amazing to look "UP" at the core of Eureka ! :rock:

I never thought i would c the day where i would be looking up at a building in Melbourne from the Rialto Observiation Deck ! :banana2:

And still to think , still about 15 odd levels to go ! :lock: :cucumber: :horse:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

WOW!! Nice building, how tall??? if you like skyscrapers look at this... Vision in Brisbane!!

www.visionbrisbane.com.au

WOW!! Nice building, how tall??? if you like skyscrapers look at this... Vision in Brisbane!!

www.visionbrisbane.com.au
lol

yep SEG Plaza looks very close
KPMG looks to bulky to be related

Haha, yeah we do like skyscrapers, thats why were here.
If you look around in this thread you will find that Eureka tower is 297.3meters tall. Huge if you ask me.
Take alook around the OZScrapers part of the forums and you will see most buildings under construction in Australia (and NZ) are posted around the place.

Seems your new, so enjoy this place, have a fun stay.

hehe, kids these days ;). Seriously though, welcome and have fun.

stu

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/2356/Eurekapano.jpg



THAT PHOTO HAS NO MOTHER!!!!!
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:


I LOVE MELBOURNE
VIVA EUREKA TOWER!!!

sorry, i dont know much about how buildings stay up, but would a large majority of the weight of eureka supported by its corebox element? rather then the outta bits.

I was staying in a Southbank hotel/apartment a few weeks ago and noticed some billboards advertising the Eureka and how big it was gonna be and I was like woah that's huge! Can't wait to go back to Melb when it's done to check it out! And I was impressed with the Rialto!

sorry, i dont know much about how buildings stay up, but would a large majority of the weight of eureka supported by its corebox element? rather then the outta bits.
Eureka is a total reinforced concrete skyscraper. Its core and floors are concrete, which combine its structural frame as its selfs superstructure!
you will find most Aussie skyscrapers are a composite structure-eg-
steel frame with concrete core. the core becomes its support with 50m deep piling undergound.
Eureka is a powerful structure. its concrete is the most powerfully manufactured .So its superstructure is one element. core + frame.

The stability of the building is provided by a number of measures. The most pivotal uses the central lift core as the main stabilising element, as well as an outrigger shear wall system which links the outer tube of the building to the central core. The outer tube comprises edge beams and incorporates two 'mega columns' on the north and south corner sides of the tower diamond - both of which have been utilised by the architect as a bold element on the facade.

"Rather than the building flexing about the core, the outrigger system enables us to utilise the outer tube perimeter frame as well, which is necessary for a building of this height and width," said Brian Dean, Project Principal from Connell Mott MacDonald. "The crucifix arrangement of outriggers is quite innovative. It concentrates the outriggers into certain locations on the floorplate, and minimises the impact on the floor plate."

Hi all. I've been lurking for a while but this topic has forced me to post :)

I know floor and core sections are tied together with rio extensions from the floor before but how is the core tied to the floor plates? I notice there are holes in the core which I presume are there to attach the floors but I'm stuffed if I know how they use the holes.

That's a fine question mate, I don't know the answer but I'd be interested to know if as the core settles, those holes in the sides are actually designed to 'sink' into their correct positions to fix to the floorplate! Strewth, you wouldn't want to miscalculate...I'm assuming that the holes are filled with reinforcement which is tied into the internal reinforcement of the floorplate as well; is jus a question of how...are there reinforced edge beams that surround or afix directly to the core?

Great to see the diamond emerging, but so much stuffing around with the rearrangement of those safety cages and other logistics of the reconfig are likely to take longer than most of us would like...Lozza. I'm with you mate, but the art of patience is worth looking into. :)

Blue

Eureka is a powerful structure. its concrete is the most powerfully manufactured.

Wow. That's a masculine, sexy statement. Well it had better show us some action and get its pultzmeizer standing up and pumping soon!

:jk:

Just noticed that the workers have gone home again today.

Must be too hot i suppose ......................................

No offense intended by the way........................

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Sorry, but i think all the developers are moving up to QUEENSLAND!!!!!

WOW!! Nice building, how tall??? if you like skyscrapers look at this... Vision in Brisbane!!

www.visionbrisbane.com.au

Sorry, but i think all the developers are moving up to QUEENSLAND!!!!!

Did you ever think that people on a skyscraper forum would actually *know* what was happening in the world of skyscrapers?

^

If ignorance is bliss then guy must be in a very happy place. :ohno:

the view i get every morning, eureka nailed that gap alright

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/eka200410.jpg

Hi all. I've been lurking for a while but this topic has forced me to post :)

I know floor and core sections are tied together with rio extensions from the floor before but how is the core tied to the floor plates? I notice there are holes in the core which I presume are there to attach the floors but I'm stuffed if I know how they use the holes.

The holes you mention are actually threaded sockets cast into the concrete. When the floorplate catches up with the liftshaft, the formwork is built to the right height and shape accounting for beams and stressing channels. Then the reo is placed. The hols you mention have 3 foot long reo bars threaded into them which are then tied or welded to the reo that encompasses the slab re-enforcing. this in turn is filled with concrete, stressed up to specifications and stripped of formwork after a set curing time for the floor slab. See it's all simple!!

Looks like they have finally fixed that mistake with the glass where the white peice was out of place :)

The hols you mention have 3 foot long reo bars threaded into them which are then tied or welded to the reo that encompasses the slab re-enforcing. this in turn is filled with concrete, stressed up to specifications and stripped of formwork after a set curing time for the floor slab. See it's all simple!!

Ah! Thanks for the explanation Favco750. Makes perfect sense now.

nah, i took a pic from hwt yesterday, the panel is still out of place

favco, your explanation went over my head. from what ive seen, L-shaped reo is placed in the core and connceted to other reo in the core before a pour. it's covered by ploystyrene or a tin hollow which is removed once the core is poured and raised. so the exposed reo is bent out from an L-spahe into a straight piece which is then fixed to the reo of the floorplate...wha la!

whats the core level now? how many more levels till it tops out?

Core level somewhere around 73-74 i think, there is officially 91 levels so i'm sure u can work out the rest :) Amazing to think how high it already is and there is another 18 levels to go, for anyone who has been on a 15 level+ balcony, they already know how high only 15 levels feels! hard to imagine 91.

I can't believe we're half way through the week and we still haven't had the core rise due on Friday

Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen the cranes move the weekend? they still seem to be in the same position.

Monday was too windy, yesterday was too hot and windy and today it was too wet! Not a good week for construction.

Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen the cranes move the weekend? they still seem to be in the same position.

Monday was too windy, yesterday was too hot and windy and today it was too wet! Not a good week for construction.

too windy ? okay.
too wet? okay
but too hot? since when is that a reason, it was only 30 degrees or something. I see guys reparing streets or working on other smaller construction sites all the time when its hot. the seem to love it. they take their shirts of and get tanned

Putting things in perspective..

http://invisiblegovernment.org/b3ta/melbskyline-inglistonbank.jpg

This photo is a little crusty, but it's a crop from the centre of an image taken from Ingliston Road, outside Bacchus Marsh, about 75km out from the CBD.. The Dandenongs are closer to the CBD than the vantage point from which this photo was taken.

Maybe it's a bit of one-upmanship on people taking photos of eureka (the fuzzy pointy thing on the righthand end) from caulfield/richmond or such, but hey :)

wow thats a long way out !

^^^

RE: No Core Rise

Yeah , its Bloody PATHETIC , isn't it ! No excuses ! The core was poured Monday last week ! Over 1 1/2 weeks go !

The quicker the Liberal Party comes down and reforms the Construction Workplace in Victoria the better !! It's a bloody joke ! And i don't give a shit what anyone thinks of my opinion by the way !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

I know everyone wants to see the height of this building, and that is why it is so exciting when we get a rise. But work will still be going on long after it's topped out and that is why I am not too worried if they are taking a little longer. It just gives the rest of the building time to catch up, and wont affect the eventual finishing date and the date us freaks can actually get up to the observation deck.

Cheers! :)

Could it be that the delay in the latest jump has something to do with the time being taken to recofigure the floorplates? Maybe the core is not being allowed to be too tall in freestanding height; there isn't much to it after all!

Blue

Gday Guys,

But nothing has been done on the floorplates either ! Its been that height for a month now !

And i would say there is no restrictions on how high the core can go compared to the floorplates. CUL would back that up i reckon ! In Sydney , Governor Phillip Tower had a massive core which was 20 stories higher than the floorplates.

Its just that Melbourne is Slack ! :rant:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Maybe the pie warmers havent been working for the last couple of weeks.

^^ Lol

Simmer down, and enjoy some pictorial goodness:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/phi1ip/Eureka/200410091728.jpg

Took this on the weekend from the opposite corner of City Road - has to be one of the better spots to appreciate Eureka's complete ownage of Southbank.

Gday Guys,

But nothing has been done on the floorplates either ! Its been that height for a month now !

And i would say there is no restrictions on how high the core can go compared to the floorplates. CUL would back that up i reckon ! In Sydney , Governor Phillip Tower had a massive core which was 20 stories higher than the floorplates.

Its just that Melbourne is Slack ! :rant:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Actually the floorplates have gone up at least two floors in the past month ;-)

You can tell because Eureka now has its first setback.

Cheers

nah, i took a pic from hwt yesterday, the panel is still out of place

favco, your explanation went over my head. from what ive seen, L-shaped reo is placed in the core and connceted to other reo in the core before a pour. it's covered by ploystyrene or a tin hollow which is removed once the core is poured and raised. so the exposed reo is bent out from an L-spahe into a straight piece which is then fixed to the reo of the floorplate...wha la!

Yeah Silver, similar deal. The reo can be cast in with foam, polystyrene, tin or timber covering it until exposed, or the join can be made with the ferules? (spellcheck pls) Same idea as the ferules that are cast into a panel for props or fishplates, except they have a tapered thread.

Time for an engineer to stand up and say something, but the theory I imagine is the same. Liftshafts have the pullout reo normally and slab joints have the ferules, but they do the same sort of thing. They are providing an anchor point for the next stage of reo to join onto. Once the reo is anchored in all directions, the structural integrity of the concrete should be up to speed.

Lozza, get on a plane and go and find your mate, he must be getting lonely travelling all the way around Europe without anyone to complain to. :)

so has it been confirmed yet when the core rise is gonna happen it has been over a week now since the core pour so you would thimk the rise is soon or will it???????

^ you'd have more luck asking a construction worker on the Eureka site than here.

it is impossible to go on site or even go with someone i tryed to do it and they didnt let me because i dont have the red card and because i am young i go to them look i'll be back and i was there the week after and the same guy saw me and he freaked out and i told him look i told you i'll be back but i'm pissed off i didnt take a digital camera with me to take pics because i was on level 55 and was on the core which was sick

so it aint impossible then? :)

Yeah Fav, a holiday to Europe might be good. I might go actually !

Maybe Melbourne's Constrcuction Workers could go on a holiday to some Asian Cities like Hong Kong and Changhai. That way , they might take a leaf out of their book and actually learn how to work for a change !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Hiiisssssssssssssssss

Its all in good fun and jest Fishcatdogbird ! hehe !

Lozza :bowtie:

current view from 101 collins omincam
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid143/p33e8743512c209b317959e2f19e2010c/f6a3bb9c.jpg

omg melbourne is being attacked by water droplets!

"Chubby Rain" ? - Bowfinger

Hey , just looking back to 11th. Oct. oblique diagram by Grollo...........parapet ? height of Eureka says RL 300.00 m Roof 298.........so what is the distance from the footpath to the highest point of the BIG E ? OK not airials etc. but the roof may have a wall around it?............PS I still want an open air elevated Obvservation Deck up on top!

Observation Deck would be OK as well

i dont think you would want an open observation deck...

i do hope they get some good optics...

Putting things in perspective..

http://invisiblegovernment.org/b3ta/melbskyline-inglistonbank.jpg

This photo is a little crusty, but it's a crop from the centre of an image taken from Ingliston Road, outside Bacchus Marsh, about 75km out from the CBD.. The Dandenongs are closer to the CBD than the vantage point from which this photo was taken.

Maybe it's a bit of one-upmanship on people taking photos of eureka (the fuzzy pointy thing on the righthand end) from caulfield/richmond or such, but hey :)

Holy cow! What was the zoom on that, taken from like 75km's away it is pretty damn good, looks awesome with the dandies in the background.

stu

Plotstyle it doesn't rain every day !

Yeah Fav, a holiday to Europe might be good. I might go actually !

Maybe Melbourne's Constrcuction Workers could go on a holiday to some Asian Cities like Hong Kong and Changhai. That way , they might take a leaf out of their book and actually learn how to work for a change !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

While we are there, should we live on site, cooking with timber offcuts and all pissing in the dirt outside our new lodgings.

I have worked on highrise overseas as a younger and much more stupid person. One job in Phuket, alot of the labourers lived underneath sheets of timber up against the walls of the underground carpark. The job started working around 4-5am in the morning and the crane would stop about 9-10pm at night.

Now let's put this into a perspective you might be able to deal with Capatilist Lozza. You just payed 300k for your unit at watergate, and you have Vic Point across the street, still under construction. You are woken at 4:07am by the growl of a Cat 3208 V8 diesel engine in a tower crane that is only the width of Docklands drive away from your bedroom window. Soon after, the jackhammers start eroding the mistakes in the concrete, showering your balcony and your pot plants with concrete dust, containing silica. Around 6:34am, the wails of an ambulance waft up to your bathroom as you shower 'cause you couldn't sleep. As you dry yourself, (which takes very Little time) you notice the police asking questions as the coroner orders a few workers to carry out the second fatality of the week in a body bag. You step out of the lift and start walking to your tram, noticing all the kids of the women carrying concrete around and up hundreds of stairs in buckets playing in the silica dust that their fathers have been jackhammering for 5 hours without a break and no clean drinking water, you arrive home later that afternoon to your apartment surrounded by fire trucks as half of one side of the bamboo scaffold has been burnt by a guy using oxy torches in his thongs with a piece of newspaper with a slit in it for eye protection, etc etc etc.

I have seen all of this with my own eyes and much worse.

My arguement is simple. If you think you can do a better job, well show us, 'cause I for one would love to see it. Construction workers choose their jobs, same as everyone else. If you are disatisfied with your remuneration or conditions, come for a walk on the dark side Lozza. I will even pay for your red card training, just to see you and your number one, A + mate on a jackhammer at 6:30 every morning. So in otherwords, put up or shut up. :cheers:

Hey , just looking back to 11th. Oct. oblique diagram by Grollo...........parapet ? height of Eureka says RL 300.00 m Roof 298.........so what is the distance from the footpath to the highest point of the BIG E ? OK not airials etc. but the roof may have a wall around it?............PS I still want an open air elevated Obvservation Deck up on top!

297m.
southbank is 3m high.

Whats happened over the last 2 weeks, been on hols and expected some increased height and it doesn't seemed to have moved?

the highest part you can stand on Eureka will be BMU rooftop- RL298m or 295m above grd. The gold bars have 2m high parapets (walls) which reach RL300m or 297m above grd.

good to see their putting in a better effort working on saturdays with alot more crane work going on i hardly saw any crane work happening on the weekdays.... so any late news about the core rise its really getting annoying that theres no rise beter hope it later on in the day

good to see their putting in a better effort working on saturdays with alot more crane work going on i hardly saw any crane work happening on the weekdays.... so any late news about the core rise its really getting annoying that theres no rise beter hope it later on in the day

I understand people's getting impatient but the tower is getting taller. I'll swear a year ago it was significantly shorter. :)

No need for all the arguments.

Sit back, relax and enjoy. :eek2:

Cheers,

Adam