Official: Klaipeda's new skyscraper district is U/C!

[John]

Yes, it's started!!! :eek: :runaway:

Construction of Klaipeda's "Gandraliskes" skyscraper district is underway, this is 100% official. I hope our Klaipedian fellows will bring some photos soon.

The land preparation works are underway, structural works are starting shortly, construction permissions are granted.

Earlier today I had a honor to meet the main architect of the whole project - Rolandas Sakalauskas - who is responsible for all architectural solutions of the "Gandraliskes" quarter, he's one of the main guys in this huge development. I've seen a couple of videos and schemes of the quarter, believe me, IT WILL KICK ASS!

The most important thing is of course highrises so here's what we've got in "Gandraliskes" according to the architect:

two residential/office towers of 30 or 34 floors. It's not clear what the real height will be, this will depend on how the investor will manage to get permission for a building taller than 30 floors (this might not be easy). One thing is sure though - 30 floors is a minimum for those 2 towers.

five towers of 22 floors. The number of 22 is not final as well, possibly they will be taller. An architectural contest will be held to choose more detailed designs, although the shape and general appearance of the buildings will be as seen in the renderings. Construction of the first highrises will start in 2005 after the results of the contest will be clear. Currently a segment of lowrises is started to construct.

Total area of development - 6 hectares. In total 180,000 m2 of residential space will be built, it will be home for about 6,000 people.

The project is unigue because there will no be parkings on the ground - all parkings will be underground under the buildings and public areas. All overground areas will be for recreation, entertainmend and generally public spaces. So no car noises and beeping alarms as it's now comon elsewhere.

Project will be complete in 7-8 years from now (so around 2011). The investors are two Lithuanian companies - construction and real estate company "UAB Plienas" and investment company "Western Lithuanian Industry and Financial Corporation".


renderings

http://www.vakaru-ekspresas.lt/galery/2004-05-19/laikrastis/178c_.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/a8e4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/klaipeda/Image4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/klaipeda/Image3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/klaipeda/Image2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/klaipeda/Image11.jpg

[Renx]

You're lucky down there!:)

[Oberleutnant]

Once finished, this will be the best high-rise cluster in our region (at least compared to current situation), no doubt about it. It seems that it will look nice and well-balanced from all directions.

"An architectural contest will be held to choose more detailed designs, although the shape and general appearance of the buildings will be as seen in the renderings."

This is a very good thing. I would prefer if they would individually design the buildings, instead of one architect designing all buildings.


"The project is unigue because there will no be parkings on the ground - all parkings will be underground under the buildings and public areas."

This certainly isn't an unique feature, it's more or less norm nowadays.



Great stuff. :)

[ch1le]

great. but i aint a big fan of this... buildings will be of similar design... pretty much a copy of other... so..... dunno...would look too commiedistrict(in a softer way, but wariety is very very important...)

[Oberleutnant]

ch1le, remember that these aren't the final designs. ;)

[ch1le]

still.. its just one big project... cant see anything "rich" coming out of that... just a bit off one and the same towers... i hate that

[John]

^^^
you dream it was in Tallinn don't you ;)

well I wish it was in Vilnius rather than Klaipeda :D

[Nightsky]

Stunning project from a city rarely heard about! When the final design is released, I will draw them for the diagram.

How far is it from downtown?

[John]

Stunning project from a city rarely heard about! When the final design is released, I will draw them for the diagram.

How far is it from downtown?


It's less than 3 km away from central part of Klaipeda so not that far.

[Mantas]

great. but i aint a big fan of this... buildings will be of similar design... pretty much a copy of other... so..... dunno...would look too commiedistrict(in a softer way, but wariety is very very important...)
Well, you guys are happy to get a Manhattan in Tallinn :D (j/k ;))

[ch1le]

i aint wow on this project so far... but the result might be fine...but if u had just like 5 or 7 Europa towers in vilnius all just a copy of other, it would be disaster, variety is more important then height and amount

[John]

I think Tallinn will have to think how overtake Klaipeda first, only then Manhattan :D

[ch1le]

even if klaipeda got this, tallinn still would be better... and Manhattan as in a skyscraper district. And by the time 2011, tallinns skyline will be like warsaws but better ;)

Klaipeda is Notown compared to Tallinn :sleepy:

[Mantas]

even if klaipeda got this, tallinn still would be better... and Manhattan as in a skyscraper district. And by the time 2011, tallinns skyline will be like warsaws but better ;)

Klaipeda is Notown compared to Tallinn :sleepy:
Blah blah blah :blahblah: Warsaw's? LOL :D

[John]

Ok, ok, maybe I exaggerated a bit, but Tallinn will have to create something really important to beat this, and this is only one project of Klaipeda, there are many more, at least four other 20+ floor highrise projects are known to this day. And the future might bring many more, so I wouldn't be sure about the "notown" ;)

[blimey]

@ch1le: It must be pretty embarassing when your capital gets its ass kicked by a Notown then, huh. :D

[ch1le]

its even more embarrasing if a notown of your own beats your own capital? HUH? ;)

plz keep in mind the 2 40 storey buildings in tallinn planned... and 3 30 storeys... so... basically... even combining vilnius and klaipeda wont give u anything against that cluster :cheers:

[Mantas]

its even more embarrasing if a notown of your own beats your own capital? HUH? ;)

plz keep in mind the 2 40 storey buildings in tallinn planned... and 3 30 storeys... so... basically... even combining vilnius and klaipeda wont give u anything against that cluster :cheers:
Vilnius has currently 12 U/C high-rises and a bunch of planned. Klaipeda has this project + 27 floorer, 3x 20 floorers and 1 15 floorer planned. Tallinn has... One U/C project + couple planned. Sorry, but notown is Tallinn here :D

Btw, calling Klaipeda notown is the same as calling Tallinn notown against Riga (at least in size) :|

[Jarmo K]

this is so FUCKING pointless. :(

[Mantas]

Yes it is. Ch1le is trying to kick somebody's ass, but he's hopeless here :D (j/k ;))

[ch1le]

vilniuses 12 highrises are only some 12 floors , and some extensions, give me a project here, not mid rise :)

[Renx]

this is so FUCKING pointless. :(

Seconded.

Please stop this stupid "contest"

[blimey]

@Jarmo: agreed.

I mean seriously guys, stop this nonsense. Everybody already knows that Klaipeda's skyline will kick Tallinn's ass so no point in repeating that.

[Gatis]

"I mean seriously guys, stop this nonsense. Everybody already knows that Klaipeda's skyline will kick Tallinn's ass so no point in repeating that."

Better stop it

Congratz!!
Nearby Liepaja even is not dreaming about it...

[Mantas]

vilniuses 12 highrises are only some 12 floors , and some extensions, give me a project here, not mid rise :)
Tallinn says "Meawwww" :D

Only 2 of them are 12floorers, just admit that Tallinn's ass is hurting now :D

[ch1le]

tallinn has a ass of steel... 2 are 12 floorers u say? the 9 rest are 13 floorers? and vilnius gate 14 floors? Ehehe, stop the commieblocking around... :D this is fun, tallinn has U/C the second and third highest floorcount in Baltics...plus the leader coming up shortly! :runaway:

[Mantas]

tallinn has a ass of steel... 2 are 12 floorers u say? the 10 rest are 13 floorers? :D this is fun
Yes I know, there will be Manhattan in Tallinn, so it's even useless to argue. Meawwwww :D

[ch1le]

hehe the only thing you need to do when comparing, is go to skyscraperpage, open diagrams of tallinn and vilnius, and cast y our eyes on them... :P

[Mantas]

hehe the only thing you need to do when comparing, is go to skyscraperpage, open diagrams of tallinn and vilnius, and cast y our eyes on them... :P
Yes, you have 2 skyscrapers, Vilnius has only 1. Ok, I give up :D


:lol:

[Renx]

Shouldn't this thread be about the....

Oh damn...I give up

[ex. SDmaster]

Yeah, seriously, guys, stop this stupid and annoying discussions about "my city has more scrapers, than yours..."

About Klaipeda's skyscraper district:

"Western Lithuanian Industry and Financial Corporation" is a very serious investor. It owns "Smiltines Perkela" (company that operates ferry from Klaipeda to Kursiu spit, that ferry brings lots of millions each year), "Klaipedos Kranai" and other big and mid-size companyes

And IMHO, a place for those skyscrapers is just great. Seems, that it is one of the most economically-perspective places in Klaipeda (because of its georaphical location, too). They (skyscrapers) are will be located near Maxima, Elektormark and other big shopping centers (which are now under construction), also ferry to kursiu spit is located in the same street (in the beginnig of it).

[Monkey]

All I can say is: congratulations, Klaipeda! :)

As to the rest of the "discussion" here: cut it out, guys! It's totally useless. :tongue: and :bleh: do by no means constitute a civilized exchange. Shame on you!

[Gatis]

This construction deserves to be presented to general Europaean forum. Do not forget map with Klaipeda :)

[John]

This construction deserves to be presented to general Europaean forum. Do not forget map with Klaipeda :)

it's a good idea, I'll try to collect more info and do this later :)

[ch1le]

greaat :tongue:

[LatvianGG]

Shall I say something?

No, no comments..... :sleepy: (my fingertips ar itching to write something but this time i'll be the smart guy and won't say anything at all)

[John]

greaat :tongue:


agreed :bleh:

[grendy]

Tampere has got one 24-floorer, one 15-floorer and couple of 14-floorers planned so all of you shut up :D.. Just be happy that you have lots and lots more projects going on, i wish we had your situation :(

[Mantas]

I just disliked Ch1le's ego replies, that's it. We should respect each other more here :|
(Sorry to sound mad, but I have no mood now ;))

[Filip]

Excuse me, this is the S&A forum, not the EE. In case you really want arguments it's just next door.:D

[Monkey]

Lol, filip! :)

To the rest of you: please try to act like the grownups some of you already are, OK? :angel1:

[ch1le]

heheh :) lol, i wasnt serious here, sry! :P

[John]

So it seems the war has ended :D

Back to the topic. The architect promised me to provide with some additional info about the project i.e. exact construction terms of separate buildings and some technical info (heights and building areas), possibly some new visuals too. I should have it next week so keep following this thread because I'll put everything here.

[ch1le]

cool, that u get that much feedback from architect, i asked for some pics, politly, and they just gave me the finger :P

[John]

^^^
This is oftenly the case, this shows the culture of company's public relation policy, in this case they perhaps realise that every mentioning and presentation of their project brings them more attention and maybe potential customers :)

[ch1le]

yes... it would have been for a good cause...

[John]

A couple of new renderings

these are received from the architect, original size was over 3100 pix width and height :eek:

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/4449/foto43.jpg

http://img77.exs.cx/img77/781/foto44.jpg

[ch1le]

i like the metallic looking ones, but i aint a big fan of the round ones! The central boulevard sure looks nice

[Gatis]

Sorry, this is not jealousy... but something in very basics here does not fit well together.
It seems that central street (between the round highrises) does not have visual continuation outside the quartal.
Also the round highrises in enclosure of commieblock style quartal look somehow wrong. I can not formulate it better, but it creates somewhat uneasy feel.
Taken separately these round highrises look cool. If one or two of them would be built somewhere in green area without buildings nearby - this would be just elegance!
Also the other part of complex without the round ones looks quite OK. But something does not fit...

This is very large project. With all my criticism I would be glad to see it in life.
They had to make large international design tendering though...

[John]

@Gatis

it seems like a rather detailed model but it's not how exactly they are going to look. As I mentioned before, they are going to make design competitions for every complex (that might be a separate building or a group of some 2-3 buildings), so these "commieblockish" lowrises most likely will look differently than in the rendering. The same about the round ones. they will remain round shaped but the overall appearance will be different. The only question I don't know answer to is if they all will look the same or each one will have different designs. Currently only the first 3 lowrises got their "real" designs and they will be built at first. The round ones will have a design competition later this year and the exact designs should be known in spring 2005 so we'll see what they are all about. Of course I hope they won't be all identical :)

As for the central street, it's quite natural that it does not continue because the quartal is planned "in the middle of nowhere" (i.e. in a former soviet military base area).

[ex. SDmaster]

My god!

John, you should (no, you MUST) immediately give a link to this thread to architect(s) of this high-rise district!!! They must to see our critics here,otherwise, if this project (even 100 time modified) will be approved, It'll be the biggest architectural mistake in Lithuanian history :bash:

[Monkey]

ex.SD, you are a genius! :bowtie:

[Gatis]

What has been the result of the public hearings in Klaipeda? People should be rather interested in such large project

[ex. SDmaster]

Gatis

People, doesn't even heard about this project... =\

[Monkey]

Of course you're mighty smart yourself, ex.SD! :okay:

So you're saying that only the people who are interested in such projects are aware of the proposed future of Klaipeda's built environment? :eek:

Well, in a way Klaipeda is lucky then: no outraged citizens storming City Hall or the Planning Department, loudly complaining that those buildings are much too TALL! ;)

[John]

LOL what's up with you SDmaster? :laugh:
it's a great project and I'm sure people will love it :)

[Gatis]

In Latvia it happens too that some projects start without public hearings. Do not remember that "Centra nams" has been much discussed before the construction started. May be the public hearings were announced but then it was done in a silent way.

@WH - do not think that people would storm City Hall to protest against tall buildings as such.

[ex. SDmaster]

LOL what's up with you SDmaster?
Nothing. I'm OK, don't worry... :)

Fully agree with Gatis, that round highrises in enclosure of commieblock style quartal look somehow wrong.

My opinion is: those three tower in the middle are OK. Other buildings - are cheap-looking shit, and nothing more.

Also I'm afraid, that "our" architect doesn't even have a "taste" :(

[John]

@ex.SDmaster

we are going to see how the actual building designs will look like, only then judge them, aren't we? :)

[Monkey]

@WH - do not think that people would storm City Hall to protest against tall buildings as such.

Sorry, Gatis ... I was merely describing what's going on here each time a building above 6 floors is proposed. ;)


@ SDmaster & John:

Sorry, this is not jealousy... but something in very basics here does not fit well together.
It seems that central street (between the round highrises) does not have visual continuation outside the quartal.

I believe Gatis makes a very important point here. :okay: A visual axis is a significant element in the overall feeling of a place. An opportunity for such a view should under no circumstances be diminished, wrecked, or omitted.

[ShuMi]

About a month old photos taken by Lithuanian forumer win2k3:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/p11400343rm.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/p11400335bt.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/p11400366bb.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/p11400356jz.jpg

Not a long time to go for the biger ones :)

[Gatis]

Nice fence :) They really are absolutely serious about it.
You know - Klaipeda now creates a bit a feel like Dubai... all the time making outsiders to ask: "What will be use of all these highrises?"

[pablonis]

well gandralishkes will be moustly residential, it is said that about 6000 people should live there, so i think thats not much (even to klaipeda)

[ShuMi]

The construction of the 30fl. highrise will start until summer. :okay:
The 5 floorer that is u/c at the moment is now 3fl. high.

[ex. SDmaster]

Just a few shots:
http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=00EBF00D-CF1F-D571-AF885711477AC9C5

http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=00ECD06A-CF1F-D571-A7760A63342C0C18

http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=00EE51AB-CF1F-D571-ADAD71BCE6E279FA

[ch1le]

http://freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=00ECD06A-CF1F-D571-A7760A63342C0C18
that looks increadibly cheap

[Edd]

Thanks for update ex. SDmaster. The residential looks very long. If all projects will be realised, Klaipeda will probably have even better skyline than Tallinn. ;)

[Estboy]

Thanks for update ex. SDmaster. The residential looks very long. If all projects will be realised, Klaipeda will probably have even better skyline than Tallinn. ;)
In that case,it beats Vilnius too;)

[Rokas]

to ch1le> These apartments are not gonna be expensive indeed. BTW, this building will have only 5fl.

You should be an expert if you can judge from this pic will it be cheap or expensive. LOL!

[Edd]

In that case,it beats Vilnius too;)
Vilnius is out of "skyscraper battle" ;) because of the height and density limits. Although even with these limits it'll probably do better than Tallinn and Klaipeda.

[ch1le]

rofl EDD, you are so childish... whats the completion date for Klaipeda highrises...

[ch1le]

to ch1le> These apartments are not gonna be expensive indeed. BTW, this building will have only 5fl.

You should be an expert if you can judge from this pic will it be cheap or expensive. LOL!

cinderblocks + bricks are cheap materials, thank you very much, you dont have to be a genius to figure that out

[John]

cinderblocks + bricks are cheap materials, thank you very much, you dont have to be a genius to figure that out

And what are "expensive" materials then? Concrete? :laugh:
This is a typical residential lowrise building, I really doubt that even "expensive" lowrise buildings in Tallinn use any "better" materials than bricks and cinderblocks. ;)

Let's wait for the first highrises in Gandraliskes to see what is what :)

[Oberleutnant]

Did the developers need to clean the soil before they could began? It's been build on an area that used to be occupied by former military base, after all.

Interesting to see the progress, though. :) I have to say, however, that those cranes look really comial. Like straight out from a Donal Duck comic or a Waner Bros cartoon!

[ch1le]

Mhhh... still, cinderblocks are the cheapest material out there... Concrete costs more.

cmon guys, Grandraliskes will be ready sometime in 2011... what do you thing that Tallinn/Riga/Vilnius wont have anything by that time? Give me a break

[sdes]

Indeed, looks kinda cheap (but then again, all buildings under construction look cheap). Just have to wait and see how it looks when it's ready.

""I have to say, however, that those cranes look really comial. Like straight out from a Donal Duck comic or a Waner Bros cartoon!""
Seconded :)

[ShuMi]

Yea, ofcourse everything in Klaipeda looks cheap for estonians, because theyr ass is on fire :D
@chile
K is u/c
The 30floorer of Gandraliskes will be started tu built until summer.
The 30fl. anf few smaller highrises of "elektromarkt" will be u/c in november.
The 2x15 commercial center will be u/c until summer.
And few new residential districts are under development or etc., one of them should be started to be built soon.

[ch1le]

well, look at the facts,

Klaipeda atm Has no highrises, how many does tallinn have?
Tallinn has a 112 m scraper (30f)
and a 107m (28F)
UC,
In a couple of months a 35 sotrey highrise will be UC, it will be 145m to Spire
This year, a 90-100m scraper shall go UC,
2 40 floorers are proposed
2-3 30+ floorers proposed
1-2 20+ Floorers proposed
AND THOSE ALL ALL IN DOWNTOWN, in one cluster!

[ShuMi]

Klaipeda had a lot of proposals too...
So just 2 skyscrapers to be built in tallinn this year? sad...
And i forgot the 27 floorer that had been u/c now, but its onhold. The same company is building the K.

[Rokas]

Indeed, looks kinda cheap (but then again, all buildings under construction look cheap). Just have to wait and see how it looks when it's ready.

""I have to say, however, that those cranes look really comial. Like straight out from a Donal Duck comic or a Waner Bros cartoon!""
Seconded :)

Hey, what's wrong with these cranes? :) I don't get it... :bash:

[ch1le]

Shumi... Shumi, you are sad! those are the ones in Downtown... those are the ones which will form a cluster, i dont care alot if Vilnius gets skyscrapers scattered in the commie districts, (which btw are just 16 floorers), and really, you say ONLY 2 scrapers, those are 100m+ scrapers, Vilnius with its great Europa complex boom got just 1 100m+ scraper, a 70m one and a 90m one... think about it :)

Sorry for the OFF topic!!!! ill shut up now

[ShuMi]

Hey, what's wrong with these cranes? :) I don't get it... :bash:

They are too cheap, how dont you ge tit? Elsevere they are gold plated. :)

[Oberleutnant]

This is a crane :)

http://ristiriita.org/data/media/4/nosturi.jpg

[ShuMi]

Sorry for the OFF topic!!!! ill shut up now

Why? no! :)
So how much skyscrapers in all the tallinn is u/c?
Im a bit outdated :)

[ShuMi]

This is a crane :)

http://ristiriita.org/data/media/4/nosturi.jpg

Its a big crane, why we would need something like that for a 5floorer.
By the way did you do that image gray so we couldnt see the gold? :D

[Oberleutnant]

http://www.ltky.lut.fi/galleria/campus/nosturi.jpg

Here's a crane for a four story building. Picture in colour. (neither are my pics)


And here are several cranes for ~5-7 story buildings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/cloudsketchers/Nosturit.jpg


Just look at Vilnius threads, those are proper cranes. Same with Riga and Tallinn threads. Not these Donald Duck cranes. Sheesh, it's important to have proper, good looking cranes! :)

I mean, how is something like this able to construct a high-rise building? It's got no balance weight on the other side?

http://www.freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=ED563642-CF1F-D571-AFE9E1C9B229B34E

[ch1le]

Why? no! :)
So how much skyscrapers in all the tallinn is u/c?
Im a bit outdated :)

atm, not much. 30 storey, 28 storey, 15 storey, 12 storey... aum, nothing more. Its the proposed towers that really stand out atm

[Edd]

rofl EDD, you are so childish...
I wrote my opinion about skylines. You did not like my opinion and you posted this comment about me. So who is being childish here?

[ShuMi]

http://www.ltky.lut.fi/galleria/campus/nosturi.jpg

Here's a crane for a four story building. Picture in colour. (neither are my pics)


And here are several cranes for ~5-7 story buildings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/cloudsketchers/Nosturit.jpg


Just look at Vilnius threads, those are proper cranes. Same with Riga and Tallinn threads. Not these Donald Duck cranes. Sheesh, it's important to have proper, good looking cranes! :)

I mean, how is something like this able to construct a high-rise building? It's got no balance weight on the other side?

http://www.freefilehosting.net/file.cfm?id=ED563642-CF1F-D571-AFE9E1C9B229B34E

The crane at the K site is about 10fl. high, so its not the main crane.
A few months ago one company in Klaipeda bought a 100 meter crane, meybe from the tom & jerry cartoon :)

[Edd]

i dont care alot if Vilnius gets skyscrapers scattered in the commie districts, (which btw are just 16 floorers)
Actually there are four u/c 20+ floorers out of those scattered ones. ;) And in the future they'll form clusters.

[Gatis]

Laughing about looks and quality of those cranes is a bit low. After all they do their work and at the end there will stand new building. Nobody will care what kind of cranes built it.

But... comparing Klaipeda to Tallinn is a bit too early. Lets wait one-two years, look at the quality of skyline and architecture in Klaipeda. Meanwhile Tallinn has quite impressive skyline already now and will continue to build new highrises.

[Oberleutnant]

To be totally honest, my remarks about the cranes on Klaipeda's construction sites were made more or less tongue-in-cheek. I hope no one seriously hurt his feelings. ;)

Anyhow, why can't you people just be happy and take comfort from the fact that you ALL already have / or will get good skylines to your cities. Who cares if one city happens to have a high-rise building or two more than the other?

[Rokas]

to Gatis> yup, you are right indeed. I don't think Klaipeda will take over Tallinn. First off all Klaipeda is only the 3rd LT city with less than 200 000 pop. I suppose you will totaly agree with me that Klaipeda should compete with Latvian's, Estonian's 3rd cities. Now suddenly Klaipeda interrupted the battle of the capitals very seriously and it's a big achievement I suppose :) Tallinn has much more money than Klaipeda does and it's a heart of Estonia.

[John]

I'm sure Klaipeda has got potential to compete even with the major ones in the Baltic in terms of new modern skyscrapers and and skyline but now I want to see some more 20+ (or better 30+) floorers U/C in Klaipeda, then I'll be able to say "YES, Klaipeda is doing this!". But now I'm just gonna wait for those scrapers starting to rise what [I hope] is going to start happening this year :yes:

[John]

Btw, this is the building which is being built. A very modest start I would say... but let's wait ;)
http://www.plienas.com/stuff/b_pics/gandraliskes/namas.jpg

[Rokas]

^^^
very cheap :D

[ShuMi]

Newest photos taken by a lithuanian forumer Draugelis:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/_DSC03795.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/_DSC03800.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/_DSC03786.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/_DSC03785.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/_DSC03784.jpg

[John]

Some official info. According to the architectural newspaper "Statybu Pilotas" the development plans of "Gandraliskes" were slightly corrected. Earlier it was planned that the second stage of the development (after the first lowrise is completed which is seen in the pictures above) another lowrise residential will be built. However it was decided that the second stage will be a 34 storey high tower (the tallest one). Technical project and final design should be ready this spring and construction is to start this year. It will be the tallest residential in Lithuania. So I think it's quite a good news :)

[vytauc]

That's just great!

[ShuMi]

Latest photos taken by win2k3:

http://img137.exs.cx/img137/2994/klp154vr.jpg
http://img137.exs.cx/img137/6730/klp171tt.jpg
http://img137.exs.cx/img137/3250/klp189vs.jpg

[sander]

That Klaipeda`s skyscraper district looks cool, but too planned. Usually in well-known skyscrapers`district skyscrapers aren`t placed in a row.

[blimey]

/\ He's got a point.

[ShuMi]

This district will be unusual :)
But it will be great to walk in the midle of those scrapers when they are close around you. And a lot may change, because the final design is`nt known yet.

[ShuMi]

Ground works of the first scyscraper has been started!

It will be a 34fl. residential:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp004.jpg
Just bad that i have`nt got any more better photos...

The 5 floorer:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp007.jpg

Some photos from the exhibition:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp006.jpg

[mlm]

I like the look of that 34 storey residential tower. Very nice!

[BoyXm]

thanks for the photos of the renders, ShuMi ;) That residential building looks damn high :eek2:

[grendy]

That residential 34-floorer looks damn impressive! Really, stunning :). How many meters will it be?

[maciekwr]

Warsaw is much more better :P

[ch1le]

that residential building looks quite nice, i would have prefered more glass, but thats just me ;) Great to see things moving on :)

[Mantas]

Warsaw is much more better :P
Wow, I wonder how did you come up with such an idea :|

[blimey]

What are you guys talking about? That residential is horrendeous. I expected much better. It looks like one of those commieblocks in Moscow, hopefully it's not the final design.

[Mantas]

Come'on blimey. I don't like the design, but it's not like in Moscow. Compare the styles!

[mlm]

/\ I agree, where did Moscow come into this :? Anyway, it's of course a bit hard to judge these "renderings", but from what I can see I like it. I guess I've always been a sucker for tall residential buildings:D

[John]

Looks ok, I'd like to see some more renderings though.
Btw, is it only me or it really resembles one of the Tornimae towers in Tallinn?

http://www.merko.ee/tornimae/galerii_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp004.jpg

[Hviid]

Damn u guys are the luckiest people in northern europe ... extremely beautiful skyscrapers! defidentally!

[ch1le]

no John tornimäe is very different, first of all tornimäe is all glass, and secondly tornimäe isnt a boxy shape it's a pentagonal shape with a longer base and 90degree side wings ;) or just a 5 side polygon
http://img103.echo.cx/img103/8551/penta2dh.jpg

[ShuMi]

I see that many of you see this scyscraper like a box. If you take a better look to the third pic in the foto you will se that it has a form like in the model. And from the second pic you can see that the western side will be almost all of glass.

[ch1le]

seems like a perfect box to me, but Tornimäe seems like box (atleast on those renders) too ;)

[Oberleutnant]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp004.jpg

I very much like the slim side of the tower (second pic from the left). The tower itself is an honest box, a design that withstands time well, looking ok from one year to another.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ArTuRAs/klp005.jpg

Positioning of the buildings looks so unorganic, way too planned. Scatter the boxy midrises around and it would be better. Right now it's not that different from commieblock suburbs.

[ch1le]

/\ im afraid i have to agree with the unorganic bit

[John]

@ch1le

but the fact is that it DOES look quite similar. ;)
And the Gandraliskes tower also isn't a box. The shape will be as indicated in the model and previous renderings i.e. it will be like a rhomb.

[ch1le]

i still cant see how a glassy commie compares to a elegant highrise like Tornimäe ;) except that they are both slim they are not similar at all...

[Mantas]

i still cant see how a glassy commie compares to a elegant highrise like Tornimäe ;)

Hahaha, lol :D They are not THAT different ;)

[Gatis]

They really are not that different - both are residentials. Of course, would be interesting to compare the costs of one separate tower in Tornimae and Gandraliskes - that may show something.

34-floor tower looks incredibly slender. Do not think that any other tower in Baltics is so slim. That's the most interesting thing about it for me. Would be great to see it in life.
I am still rather sceptical about success of ALL the announced projects in Klaipeda, but something would be built for sure!

[Edd]

One more rendering from the other side (photo by Tomasl from Lithuanian forum):
http://img157.echo.cx/img157/2291/dang2kn3pv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Mantas]

Doesn't look like a commie, does it? :D

[Gatis]

Just add some more floors and you will get this one :)
http://www.seaoi.org/assets/images/Highcliff_1.jpg

[ch1le]

Doesn't look like a commie, does it? :D

wow ;) that other render is indeed better, but makes things even more clear that they are different! Looks way better on that render, if only a bit just a bit fat..

[John]

So how much the Tornimae towers cost and what is the total building area of both (or each if possible) towers? Just to compare as Gatis suggested. I'm not sure but somewhere somebody indicated that the tallest tower in Gandraliskes will be 20,000 m^2 of area.

[ch1le]

Tornimäe apartmens according to ssp.com is 14 900 or something whole complex 43 000 sqm
cost was... something like 0,5 bio eek

[John]

And one more rendering (photographed by Tomasl), appearantlly this one shows the opposite side of the building than the previous one posted by Edd

http://img108.echo.cx/img108/9431/0011zg.jpg

[ch1le]

i havent decided yet if i like it, could deserve more "bling bling"...then again result might be actually very nice... how tall is it? 102M?

[ShuMi]

It should be 102m., but it was sayd that the tower may be more than 110m., it may be that they will count the spire as well.

[ShuMi]

Photos from today:

Gandrališkės:

Šiltinamas namas
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/DSC04610.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/DSC04625.jpg


Matoma poliakalė
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/DSC04628.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Draugelis/DSC04629.jpg

[deSad]

yep work is going on..

[Gatis]

Well. In some years Klaipeda will be different.
I wonder - how they allow you to enter construction sites. When I wanted to take pictures of Panorama Plaza standing outside the fence), guard did not allow me.

[John]

^^^
This happens but you have to watch the guards to avoid them noticing you taking the picture. ;)

[Mantas]

Our forumer Romas enters which ever site he wants and takes amazing panoramas from the roofs of the buildings. I have no idea how he's being let in there :D

[ch1le]

/\ Press card? ;)

I dont have troubles with security guards, they ofcourse dont let me in... but taking pictures is totally allowed ;)

[Mantas]

He said he just walks in and nobody pays attention, but it's hardly believable :D

[ShuMi]

Yesterdays photo made by Tomasl:

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/4301/gandraliskes36id.jpg

It seems that real works have started :okay:

[Qualtagh]

Whoa, rather sizeable project for a city that has only 699 results in Google. I'd like to know some facts about Klapeida. How many inhabitants are there? The city's website was only in Lithuanian.

[Mantas]

^^^ Try searching "Klaipėda OR Klaipeda", I'm sure you'll get more ;)

The city has 190,000 residents and there's also an English version of Klaipeda page :D
http://www.klaipeda.lt/klaipeda/index.jsp

[zippo21]

I found even less when I wrote "Klapeida" in google..
sometimes it's hard for me to understand those who can't write this name correctly..I mean..it's not chinese or japanese name >( is it so hard to write it???u can use COPY and PASTE for god sake :ohno:
sorry if I was too rude...it was just my personal opinion.

[ch1le]

/\ i agree with you, but also the number of people who write Tallinn with a l or n short is apalling! and Tallinn is a capital, not a regional city ;D

[zippo21]

When I don't know something how to write..I find it in the net and only then write in forums..

[Gatis]

Funny - Tallin (with one "n") in Google gets 780 000 results. Go and educate them all :)

[Qualtagh]

sometimes it's hard for me to understand those who can't write this name correctly..I mean..it's not chinese or japanese name >( is it so hard to write it???u can use COPY and PASTE for god sake :ohno:
sorry if I was too rude...it was just my personal opinion.

Well, the first time I saw the name, I read it "Klapeida" and unfortunately haven't payed attention to the spelling afterwards. This is understandable and happens to everybody in some part of the life. Now let's continue on the topic, shall we?

[zippo21]

Well, the first time I saw the name, I read it "Klapeida" and unfortunately haven't payed attention to the spelling afterwards. This is understandable and happens to everybody in some part of the life. Now let's continue on the topic, shall we?
:cheers1:

[_alonso_]

I found even less when I wrote "Klapeida" in google..
sometimes it's hard for me to understand those who can't write this name correctly..I mean..it's not chinese or japanese name >( is it so hard to write it???u can use COPY and PASTE for god sake :ohno:
sorry if I was too rude...it was just my personal opinion.


what's the problem? I always forget to write Tallinn instead of Talin, not intentionally of course;)

and if there comes a man, who has never heard about such small a town (according to Europe's standards) as Klaipeda, somewhere near Baltic sea's shore - there is nothing very surprising if he does a mistake in spelling the name, especially when that name is Lithuanian.

[zippo21]

what's the problem? I always forget to write Tallinn instead of Talin, not intentionally of course;)

and if there comes a man, who has never heard about such small a town (according to Europe's standards) as Klaipeda, somewhere near Baltic sea's shore - there is nothing very surprising if he does a mistake in spelling the name, especially when that name is Lithuanian.
OK OK...sorry for starting this stupid discussion. I don't say it's a problem, but when u are trying to find information about any town in google, you should find out how it is written exactly because it affects search results:)

[John]

So is that the construction of the 34 storey tower of Gandraliskes starting? If so we can just state the fact that the great skyscraper race of Klaipeda has started, it would be 3rd 20+ storey tower U/C in the city (to be followed by at least 2-3 more this year!). Things are becoming really serious in what once was just an unknown Lithuanian seaport town. :D

[Homer]

Qualtagh, where are you from ? do you know such cities as Kaunas, Vilnius, Tallinn, Riga ? :)

[ShuMi]

So is that the construction of the 34 storey tower of Gandraliskes starting? If so we can just state the fact that the great skyscraper race of Klaipeda has started, it would be 3rd 20+ storey tower U/C in the city (to be followed by at least 2-3 more this year!). Things are becoming really serious in what once was just an unknown Lithuanian seaport town. :D

No, i think that the real construction should start in June.
About the amount of 20+ storey towers it should be about 6-7 u/c, it`s if they start to build by one scraper in such complexes like Elektromarkt and the one were the 3 18-24 towers will be built.

[ShuMi]

Photos made by Tomasl:

The facing looks nice
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6572/gandraliskespenkiaukstispabaig.jpg

And the tower himself waiting for something :D
Now the construction should start in September :|
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6595/gandraliskes30aukstupradzia3jp.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8536/gandraliskes30aukstupradzia2jp.jpg

[ShuMi]

Isn`t it a crane in the tower? muahaha :D

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5256/gandraliskes30aukstupamatai1jp.jpg

[blimey]

Looking good.

[ShuMi]

OK, lets make an update ;)
Photos by Tomasl

The crane is up! It`s something like 12-13 floor high.
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/1130/klaipdoskranai1jpg6mj.jpg


The five floorer and view`s from it
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6572/gandraliskespenkiaukstispabaig.jpg

Ground works for the northern part of the quarter underway ;)
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/4659/gandraliskesprolanga22my.jpg

Hyper Maxima being turned into Akropolis :D
An office building is under development on the green plot in the midle of the picture.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/372/gandraliskesprolanga3jpg8dn.jpg

Elektromarkt a bit further in the picture, three 30fl towers should rise next to it ;)
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7503/gandraliskesprolanga40pi.jpg

And some other pictures:
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4508/gandraliskesprolanga5pg9aj.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3439/gandraliskesprolanga6jpg9yc.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6072/gandraliskesprolanga6pg8bd.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6814/doka1mr.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2237/gandraliskesprolanga4pc.jpg

[ShuMi]

And here`s the tower himself. I`m now thinking can this tower be finished before tornimae twins :D

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7858/gandarliskesdangoraizisisvidau1.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3505/gandarliskesdangoraizisisvidau.jpg

[ShuMi]

3rd? tallest resindential in S&B progresing ;)

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8261/gandarliskesdangoraizismonolit.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4146/gandarliskesdangoraizismonolit1.jpg

[Gatis]

3rd? tallest resindential in S&B progresing
Panorama Plaza II which is u/c has got formally 30 floors but technically at least 31 floors. They got spire as well. Unfortunately I don't know its height...

[John]

Panorama Plaza II which is u/c has got formally 30 floors but technically at least 31 floors. They got spire as well. Unfortunately I don't know its height...

According to my source the U/C tower of Gandraliskes will be 110m. According to other sources it will be 112m. Not sure which one is closer to truth.

[ShuMi]

^^ As i rememmber the exact height should be 112m., but look our tower has a spire as well :D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/jiebus/modtext_426f920f422b1_b4.jpg

[ch1le]

3rd? tallest resindential in S&B progresing ;)

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8261/gandarliskesdangoraizismonolit.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4146/gandarliskesdangoraizismonolit1.jpg

3rds tallest? The first is Tornimäe...whats the second?

[pablonis]

3rds tallest? The first is Tornimäe...whats the second?

first in S&B is turning torso, tornimae is second ;)

[ch1le]

ah SB, ofcourse :D Sorry ;)

[Homer]

According to my source the U/C tower of Gandraliskes will be 110m. According to other sources it will be 112m. Not sure which one is closer to truth.

112m is the real height of this tower ;)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5149/plienas18ut.jpg


btw, Tornimäe Apartments tower is just 3m higher than GT (Gandraliskes Tower) so actualy there won't be some visual difrence between these two towers :yes:

[John]

^^
Ok, I'll change data in www.emporis.com then. 112m is really something :okay:

[ShuMi]

Northern part of Gandraliskes is now u/c!
About 400 apartments.

Here`s some photos of the tower.
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/8246/gandraliskes3410il.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5184/gandraliskes341gaminiaikolon8h.jpg

[ShuMi]

Grow baby! Grow!! :cheers:

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/4733/gandraliskes341a3jt.jpg

[ShuMi]

Some photos by Tomasl:
Two day difference between the photos.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9821/gandraliskes342a7lv.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9301/gandraliskes342b7cp.jpg

[Svajoklis]

Some of these buildings are really dull! They may not resemble commieblocks of the 70s and 80s, but you can be sure that if the commies were still around they would be making buildings like this!

[ShuMi]

While the demand is so high, i think we can`t expect something architecturally rich :|
I don`t like things like this either.

[Svajoklis]

But is the demand really THAT high? I thought Klaipeda's population was shrinking?

Well, I suppose I can't judge until I've seen for myself. I've only been to Klaipeda twice, but hopefully I'll get to go back some time in the future.

[ShuMi]

It`s not THAT high, but it`s really high, although the population, as you said, is shrinking.

[Edd]

The fact that population is shrinking in Klaipeda does not have very big influence to demand here. Residential space per head is very small in comparison to developed countries of Europe. E.g. residential space per head in Lithuania is almost two times smaller than in 15EU countries - that's huge difference.

Also demand itself doesn't show anything. You have to look at difference between demand and supply. When demand is bigger than supply (that's the situation in Lithuania today) developers can build lower quality residentials since they'll be sold anyway. Though supply is increasing very fast in Lithuania and in the future everything will change - developers will have to fight for clients.

[ch1le]

/\yep... small current residential space is the key for our booms atm.

All those 1980s commies are loosing residents (but the thing in Tallinn is that people still buy those apartments really fast). In tallinn theres three-four driving factors: Firstly, incomes are getting higher - people can afford new bigger apartments, secondly the loans are very cheap atm, they can afford more en mass! ;), thirdly, the current apartments are very small, people are getting more "civilized" and buying much bigger ones, Fourthly - Population is growing...

[Svajoklis]

I really hope one day most of the commieblocks will stand empty, and then we can demolish them so that they no longer blight the skyline of the beautiful cities of the Baltics. Although many featureless boxes seem to be vying to take their place...

[ch1le]

/\ unless well get mass immigration.... it will 100% surely happen

[S.T.A.S.]

Fourthly - Population is growing...
wha? are you talking about the baltics here or what, if then so, I would like to see some evidence of that, cause what I've seen, it's decreasing and fast!

[ShuMi]

Adverts on the fence:
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5616/iauriniskvartalasgnd3aj.jpg
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/2425/gandarliskesplakatas6km.jpg

And the tower himself, growing, but slowly :(
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4964/dsc018806ci.jpg
http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/6871/dsc018770yp.jpg

[Svajoklis]

The layout of those flats on the boards reminds me an awful lot of the layout of the flats in Zirmunai. The flats themselves even have five stories.

[ShuMi]

They`r slow, very slow...
3 brigades of workers left the company for unknown reasons at summer as i rememmber. So it may be the problem, because new workers must be trained :hm:

Today`s photo by win2k3:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5886/1g5zi.jpg

And a 5 day old pic by Tomasl:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/jiebus/gandraliskes34s.jpg

[ShuMi]

Some facts:
1742 apartments, 142th. residential m2
197 office and commercial accommodations, 28th. m2
3306 garages under the buildings, covering 76th. m2.
And 29 buildings at all ;)

And now some photos:

By Edgaex:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6483/gandr3414kt.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5774/gandra3427at.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9199/gandr345fy.jpg

And some photos from the northern part of the quarter. Pics made by Tomasl ;)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/tomasl/iauriniskvartalasgnd.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/tomasl/iaurinisgnd.jpg

[ShuMi]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/2782/img09427vg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4312/img09466ra.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2554/img09383bx.jpg

[BoyXm]

It's like from one song: little by little rising :)
Thank you for the photos ;)

[Homer]

We have two cranes ! maybe now they'll build faster.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4329/img12619ao.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/8826/img12647bs.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5355/img12673il.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4739/img12683zc.jpg

[ShuMi]

Two months gone, 8 floors built, the pace is increasing ;)
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Edgaex/Edgaex/IMG_2957.jpg

lil brother (bottom of the pic) will start to rise soon as well.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Edgaex/Edgaex/IMG_2940.jpg
More pics: http://tinkle.miestai.net/showthread.php?t=1847&page=14

Northern part well underway now:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Edgaex/Edgaex/IMG_2962.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Edgaex/Edgaex/IMG_2968.jpg
More pics: http://tinkle.miestai.net/showthread.php?t=283&page=21

[ShuMi]

Todays pic. You can now see that the office building started to grow.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5791/phto01462uh.jpg

[ShuMi]

20th floor u/c, in about a month it will become the tallest in Klaipeda :cheers:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3497.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3504.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3506.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3507.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3515.jpg

Northern part:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3513.jpg

[ShuMi]

The glass is ON!

Photos by Edgaex:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3716.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3713.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3713.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3711.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3715.jpg

[ShuMi]

Photos by Edgaex & Tomasl

Northern part, some people may guess from which building this pic was taken from ;)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3755.jpg

The tower is already the tallest in Klaipeda :yes:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2508/mariosgnd27by.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5001/mariosgnd49hd.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4047/stiklaignd16ut.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/156/stiklaignd28ux.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3745.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/KLP06/IMG_3733.jpg

[ShuMi]

A new rendering.
Seems that the current u/c tower may be not the tallest...

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/1912/122304photo1sq9.jpg

[Nomels]

Wyhy do you need so many high-rises in Klaipeda? :D

[Llinass]

We are dying of depression, we can't live without high-rises. That you see here is just beginning. :D

[Gatis]

37 floors.... you are crazy. KLAIPEDA is crazy! :D
Will wait one-two years and then visit you - to get impressed

[Jeffas]

Personally, I do not like this Gandraliskes project - it is very strange to have these "packed skyscrapers" among the new version commiblocks. I kind of like these round towers, but imho there are too many towers of the same design in one place. The tall ones are simply boxes with no character whatsoever. Only my subjective opinion. :)

[pauliezaz]

37 floors.... you are crazy. KLAIPEDA is crazy! :D
Will wait one-two years and then visit you - to get impressed

37? 34! Unless you are talking about another building (I don't know how much floors it'll has)

[Mantas]

Wyhy do you need so many high-rises in Klaipeda? :D

Prices for residential premises are very close to Vilnius' level and the supply is far from being sufficient. + Klaipėda is next to the sea and scrapers supply a view to it (what means extra money). :)

[Gatis]

I am speaking about that other (triangled) one - tryed to count floors on that one.
Yes, I can't say that architecture of Gandraliskes district is pleasant for me too - but expressed myself about it some time (year?) ago.

[ShuMi]

@Gatis
The director of "Plienas" (company that is building "Gandraliskes") yesterday announced that they are planning to build a 40fl. scraper :yes:
37 isn`t enough for Klaipeda ;)

[pauliezaz]

How many people will contain Gandraliskes?

[Nightsky]

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4329/img12619ao.jpg
This building looks like Kronprinsen, formerly Malmös tallest:
http://www.abergfastighet.se/pix/kronprinsen.jpg

Will it be the largest skyscraper cluster in the Baltics?

[ch1le]

/\WTF? :D

[Jeffas]

This is a part of the official policy to put all Klaipeda inhabitants into one skyscraper (actually inspired by Tokyo).

We will later destroy all the remaining city buildings (this urban density causes depression to village people..), especially those from the German Buerger period, so we have enough free pasture for bees and cows. Life will look so much better from the 150th floor! (NB. those who would get tired of it, will always have an easy way to quit)

[Nomels]

to Jeffas:

:D

[Gatis]

How many floors are needed to include all people of Klaipeda (and Gargzdai, Palanga and other places nearby) in one building?

[Mantas]

How many floors are needed to include all people of Klaipeda (and Gargzdai, Palanga and other places nearby) in one building?

It depends on floor area :D

[Gatis]

Let's assume that each apartment should have views on all four sides :)

[Jeffas]

Ok, these are the options for the consideration of Klaipeda municipality and investors:

Tokyo Sky City:

Height - 1 km
Land plot - 800 ha
People - 30.000 residents + 100.000 employees (we could increase it up to 1,2 km height to accomodate 190.000 Klaipeda inhabitants and their bedrooms)

but it is still too small to accomodate Klaipeda, Palanga, Gargzdai, Kretinga and Silute...:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Jeffas/f63_1.gif

But as only the sky is the limit to Klaipeda :D, here is another solution - Ultima Tower:

Location - "Any densely populated urban environment" :D
Population: 1,000,000 people
Square footage: 1,500,000,000 ft
Height - 3,218 km

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Jeffas/Towers04a1.jpg

This one could be "slightly" too big for the LT major port-city (still a rather good visual point for the occasional cruise ships on the way from Gdansk to Stockholm), but could work fine with Vilnius-Kaunas dipolis (officially and extensively 1,6 mln...). I consider Elektrenai as a near to perfect location :cheers: Besides, Juozapine (293 m) will no longer be the highest mountain in Lithuania!!!

[ShuMi]

And it seems that the tower should be 147m. high.
Anybody still unconvinced about the Klaipeda`s skyline being one of the best, if not the best? ;)

[Nomels]

Oh god, I am happy that Klaipeda attracts investments - it is valuable for the whole Baltic region! Isn't it better to have investments flowing to the Baltic states rather than to China, Baby? Personally I think Klaipeda is more perspective than Vilnius an Kaunas together!

[_keen_]

Oh god, I am happy that Klaipeda attracts investments - it is valuable for the whole Baltic region! Isn't it better to have investments flowing to the Baltic states rather than to China, Baby? Personally I think Klaipeda is more perspective than Vilnius an Kaunas together!

You are such a regionalist...

[whatever...]

Oh god, I am happy that Klaipeda attracts investments - it is valuable for the whole Baltic region! Isn't it better to have investments flowing to the Baltic states rather than to China, Baby? Personally I think Klaipeda is more perspective than Vilnius an Kaunas together!

no doubt Klaipėda has potential, probably more than any other port in eastern baltics, but overcoming Vilnius+Kaunas or even Vilnius alone? nahh... atleast not in 50+ years, the gap is just too big :)

Btw, 147 meters is huge, i really hope it gets built that high, or maybe (who knows?) even higher :)

[Llinass]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9510/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabw8.jpg

[Mantas]

It's close to Gandrališkės, but it's not the same project :)

[ShuMi]

By Deividas @ miestai.net:

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010460.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010464.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010468.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010472.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010473.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010476.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010479.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/P1010482.JPG
http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20060804/Copy%20of%20P1010481.JPG

[grendy]

I'm so gonna love that building when it's finished :)

[ShuMi]

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/3576/dscf0172ix4.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5711/dscf0170kh9.jpg

Do you see the tower? ;)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9679/fromk049se2.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5118/fromk052tc5.jpg

It`s going to top out soon.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8858/dng232062xm7.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6840/dng001uf5.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9130/img0431qw1.jpg

[Jarmo K]

oh man, that's tall!

[taimis]

THE TALLEST RESITENTAL TOWER IN THE BALTICS.

[ch1le]

/\ so how Tall is it? Does it beat 117m Tornimäe?

[ShuMi]

No... Maybe would, if we counted the spire... :D
Although, it`s a fully residential building, what you cant say about Tornimae ;)

[taimis]

:yes:

[ch1le]

Although, it`s a fully residential building, what you cant say about Tornimae ;)

thats true!

[Gatis]

Taller than 114 m Panorama Plaza which is all-residential (without spire)?

[Mantas]

Taller than 114 m Panorama Plaza which is all-residential (without spire)?

AFAIK Pilsotas (it's the name of the tower) is 112 m tall.

[taimis]

Taller than 114 m Panorama Plaza which is all-residential (without spire)?

:doh:

[ch1le]

doesnt Panorama plaza have a podium mall? Kinda like Tornimäe?

[Gatis]

No, mall is separate building in front of skyscrapers. Mall has a lot better architecture than skyscrapers IMHO. Although the first 27th floorer which is nearly completed, does not look bad at all. They use high quality facade - gray granite - and it helps a lot.
- - -
Sorry for interfering. In fact I am absolutely impressed by this highrise in Klaipeda. Its width to height ratio is impressing - it looks thin.

[ShuMi]

Repost from tinkle.miestai.net, pictures taken on Sunday ;)

http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g1.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g2.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g3.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g4.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g5.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g6.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g7.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g8.jpg
http://foto.miestai.net//inkelti/20061015/g9.jpg

[ShuMi]

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1503/004ob3.jpg
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/2949/21el9.jpg
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/3482/24df0.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/403/27pr6.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2221/222jx3.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/293/003tw1.jpg

[Sideshow_Bob]

Wow, this was very impressive!

[baltas]

some new renders:

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/1.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/2.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/3.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/4.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/5.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/6.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/7.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/8.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061211/10.jpg

[paku]

Interesting project, the main tower looks cool!

[ShuMi]

These renderings are a bit out of date. The model looks much more closer to reality:

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/3576/dscf0172ix4.jpg

Some older construction photos:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8564/picture008cr3.jpg
http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/3811/225pp0.jpg

[baltas]

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20061223/DSC04743.JPG

[ShuMi]

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3362/picture012mm0.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3388/picture010nl5.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/tustus/for%20forum%20miestai/nakti%20pilsot.JPG
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2637/picture015nq0.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5466/picture003bq3.jpg

[ShuMi]

Some news on "Kursas", the tallest tower of Gandraliskes. The height should be 160m. and it should have the form of a sail. Two architectural proposals have already been rejected and the developer is pretty keen on making the tower as a landmark.
Also the cylinder form highrises will look different, because the earlier form was very unpractical, the heights should be between 22 and 28 storeys. And they all should look different.

[Gatis]

160 m sounds unbelievable! Klaipeda IS getting unusual activity compared to its size.

[AutoUnion]

Some news on "Kursas", the tallest tower of Gandraliskes. The height should be 160m. and it should have the form of a sail.

160m(!?) :nuts: Bravo Lithuania!:applause:

[zippo21]

160m?:eek2: bad news for Europa tower:doh: but good news for Lithuania in general:rock: :applause: :okay:

[ShuMi]

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20070323/P1040498.JPG

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20070323/P1040499.JPG

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20070323/P1040514.JPG

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/67/img2114ag3.jpg

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/545/img2112tm6.jpg

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20070323/P1040497.JPG

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20070323/P1040511.JPG

[sjon]

160m(!?) :nuts: Bravo Lithuania!:applause:

is it a residental tower?

[Giedrius_LT]

is it a residental tower?

Kuršas will be built for entertainment, relaxation, leisure, commerce and residental functions.

[sjon]

that just 4 meters lower than hollands tallest tower
very nice klaipeda

[ShuMi]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3856/picture093zk4.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5545/picture092fe5.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5873/picture096pf9.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3617/picture087jx7.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/479/picture120tp8.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4028/picture118nw7.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/EimantasK/pilsotasirmb010.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/EimantasK/pilsotasirmb015.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/EimantasK/pilsotasirmb017.jpg

Constructions of the central part is starting

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/EimantasK/neapolis001.jpg

[Gatis]

Unbelievable... but it exists! And they build more and more...

[S.T.A.S.]

I love how the clouds reflect of the building! Nice!

[Sss LT]

Nice photos:okay: Thanks
Pilsotas seems a bit lonely, but when there are more skyscrapers the view will be amazing!!!!!