Is old T1 been demolished and carted away yet? Does anyone have any recent pics?

When I landed at the end of august most of T1 was gone, the only thing that's left is a couple of storeys of the old car park.

Oh man, how unlucky I was. I had to take a plane in the old T1 just 1 month before the new T1 opened

:cry:

Poor you, I hope to never see that death-trap again.:D

Go to the GTAA website and you'll find demolition photos under the "old terminal" link. They were giving away a DVD that contains a brief history of the old terminal and some footage of the new one. I got it and it makes for a great souvenir. I'd read in Macleans magezine that over 80% of the old terminal is being recycled on the spot into building material and fill for the airport expansion. Cheers!

http://www.gtaa.com/

Cool on the recycling bit.

I saw some of that old car park remaining on September 5th, when I boarded the flight to Tokyo from T1. Construction sites are such an eyesore, even though airports aren't exactly pretty to begin with (doesn't mean they can't be impressive though).

The new T1 is pretty nice, indeed, but there seems to be emmense amount of unused space in it right now. Maybe it was just to do with the time of day I was using it, but they seem to be making a lot of advance planning for capacity increases. Mixed reaction about that, although it makes good sense.

they could probably fill the whole thing if they wanted because T3 is still in use.

Yeah, T3 is still in use and T4 is under construction, what's T3's operation got to do with that?

Toronto is one of the fastest growing/developing airports on the continent. It is also quickly on route to becomming the most expensive, and has been causing fights between airline operators (especially Air Canada, but any airline operating at Pearson as well) and the GTAA.

We can't really blame the GTAA for high airline costs.

Last month, I took a flight from Buffalo that as a round trip fare costed $400 without tax. The equivilent from TO on AC was $1200 without tax. I would suggest usuing Buffalo if you can because boycotting the airlines out of TO might have some effect on the outragous price of flying.

@Benc7: Thanks for the link.

Toronto is one of the most expensive airports to land and take-off a plane in North America. Toronto has had more foreign airlines come and leave than most cities will ever have!!! Unless, its an emergency and you need to get to Toronto pronto, it is much cheaper to fly through Buffalo, as Homer said. Buffalo has pretty good service to major cities in the US for a much smaller price tag. BUF is also a nice and convenient airport. You walk right out of the small, but cool looking glass terminal, into the parking lot where the rent-a-cars are located.

We can't really blame the GTAA for high airline costs.

BS! It's the GTAA that charges each plane 6000 CAD for each landing it makes. The GTAA's gowging (sp?) of the airlines is precisely why Pearson-bound/originating trips are so expensive.

I wouldn't be caught dead flying through a U.S. Airport in the post 911 era. That's a whole lot of discomfort worth the 1000 CAD to avoid.

It's the increase in NavCan charges & the unusually high Security Tax + sales tax that makes it so high too. & now the carts cost a dollar & only returns a quarter.
First Canadian airport i've seen that does that so far. . .

BS! It's the GTAA that charges each plane 6000 CAD for each landing it makes. The GTAA's gowging (sp?) of the airlines is precisely why Pearson-bound/originating trips are so expensive.

I wouldn't be caught dead flying through a U.S. Airport in the post 911 era. That's a whole lot of discomfort worth the 1000 CAD to avoid.


The fees are according to aircraft size so a small jet with 20 people on it will not cost $6,000 but they are quiet high. Pearson also has the facilities for one of the fastest turn arounds in the world so its not as bad as one might think.

It's the increase in NavCan charges & the unusually high Security Tax + sales tax that makes it so high too. & now the carts cost a dollar & only returns a quarter.
First Canadian airport i've seen that does that so far. . .

Are you talking about those push carts you put your luggage on and are dispensed from a machine? If you are, I've seen them going for USD$2 to USD$3, and you don't get a freakin quarter back. :)

But, I can handle that cost.

Yeah, T3 is still in use and T4 is under construction, what's T3's operation got to do with that?

Toronto is one of the fastest growing/developing airports on the continent. It is also quickly on route to becomming the most expensive, and has been causing fights between airline operators (especially Air Canada, but any airline operating at Pearson as well) and the GTAA.

What's this about T-4? I haven't heard anything about that...unless you mean the second phase of T-1 New, which doesn't really make sense.

Would the second phase of T1 make the existing international terminal obsolete? It is my understanding that they had to build a temporary terminal until such a time that the second wing on T1-new was built and that they could not build the new wing until T1-old was removed.

BS! It's the GTAA that charges each plane 6000 CAD for each landing it makes. The GTAA's gowging (sp?) of the airlines is precisely why Pearson-bound/originating trips are so expensive.

I wouldn't be caught dead flying through a U.S. Airport in the post 911 era. That's a whole lot of discomfort worth the 1000 CAD to avoid.

I just figured out what word you're trying to use!! Its spelled gouging. :) :)

Would the second phase of T1 make the existing international terminal obsolete? It is my understanding that they had to build a temporary terminal until such a time that the second wing on T1-new was built and that they could not build the new wing until T1-old was removed.

The new extention for T-1 (new) will be used for Air Canada transborder (US) flights. It may also hold all of WestJets flights, thus making T-2 finished. They then tear T-2 down and create one more pier. Add to that the expansion of T-3 and welcome to the new Person

I just figured out what word you're trying to use!! Its spelled gouging. :) :)
Thanks! (almost spelled it gauging, but I knew that was another word and meaning).


Anyway, Pearson has changed their plan so many times now I appear to have lost track. T-4 is now probably T-1 Phase 2.

If T-2 goes down for a T-3 expansion, does that make T-3 the new T-2?

T-2: Judgement Plane

Anyway, Pearson has changed their plan so many times now I appear to have lost track. T-4 is now probably T-1 Phase 2.

If T-2 goes down for a T-3 expansion, does that make T-3 the new T-2?

T-2: Judgement Plane

LOL!! YYZ is going to be quite confusing with all these number changes. I'm so used to flying into the old T1, which I thought was pretty cool.

With all the ways that Toronto wants to be like New York City, the old airport was very close. It was very JFK-like with its three different and detached terminal buildings and the way they were so hard to travel between them. You see, the secret to becoming more like NYC is to become more confusing and convoluted, not to organize and become efficient. :) :runaway:

I'll miss the old T-1. I have fond memories of watching planes take off from the carpark. From what I understand, it was a bit of a modernist masterpiece when it was built, but soon after its design was compromised in some way (can't quite remember).

The arrival of larger jets made the aeroquay obsolete.

I'll miss the old T-1. I have fond memories of watching planes take off from the carpark.
Bloody right! It was a fairly regular outing for me and my dad when I was a kid in the mid '80s. You could drive right out onto the roof and enjoy a 360 degree view of the takeoffs and landings and dockings and activity.
Of course, a standard thing was to scratch one's name into the brown railing for posterity, which I did relatively late, on May 15, 1989, when my dad was heading to Boston to give a lecture.

Speaking of the '80s and Buffalo, which others have brought up, our family made regular trips to NJ to visit a relative in a nursing home (Why else would one go there?). We drove to Buffalo airport and took a People's Express flight to Newark. The cost: $39 per!! You probably can't rent a hang glider for that kind of money these days.

Anybody remember Wood Air?

All first class service, all economy priced tickets.

Didn't really generate much profit, but it certainly didn't lose any money either, but as a result there was no interest in keeping airline running when its founder decided to retire (or did he pass away?... I forget). The founder was rich and did the airline as a side project for kicks.

Wardair? Max. Ward? Sold to Canadian Pacific at a high price. Wasn't for sale, but Max was happy to sell to any purchaser who's willing to overpay.

Here's an article from today's Toronto Star on the demolition of Terminal 1:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1096582209950&call_pageid=968350130169&col=969483202845

It would be eerie thinking that a new terminal would be state of the art in the mid-to-late 1960s and be obsolete by 1974 or so.

Way to revive a dead thread! Almost three years old! So now we're officially down to two terminals, Terminal 1 and Terminal 3.

What's left of the old Terminal 2 will be gone soon too.