il fenomeno
August 19th, 2011, 12:54 PM
^ hamburg looks denser than london at least.
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View Full Version : DISCUSS: Best European Skyline (major cities only) il fenomeno August 19th, 2011, 12:54 PM ^ hamburg looks denser than london at least. dutchsnookerfan August 19th, 2011, 02:06 PM Which one is it? dutchsnookerfan August 19th, 2011, 02:37 PM http://i.huffpost.com/gen/331716/thumbs/r-MOST-FASHIONABLE-CITY-large570.jpg I dont think it is more dense. il fenomeno August 19th, 2011, 03:05 PM http://www.abload.de/img/img_03373jeg.jpg :dunno: SO143 August 19th, 2011, 04:06 PM :dunno: You guys clearly don't understand how the skyscraper constructions in London work. Obviously London is not trying to get a proper "packed" cluster in the middle of the city. The aim of London is to get several "mini" clusters in various parts of the city and this is how massive cities do. Comparing the density of London and Hamburg is absolutely absurd and ludicrous. London is probably the most booming city in Europe in terms of construction and development. In a few years, you will see "skyline" clusters in Croydon, Olympic Village, Canary Wharf, The City, Southwark and western parts of the city as well. You can't really compare Frankfurt to London skylines and say oh London skyline sucks, in reality London doesn't even have proper cluster because it's skyline is so big and spread out across the city. One thing that people should realise is that London mainly concentrates on quality, iconic design and architecture of buildings, thanks to some of the world's best London architects like Norman Foster group. Bye for now i am tired of this old story and best wishes to Frankfurt's towers in One on One Tournament. Ji-Ja-Jot August 19th, 2011, 04:45 PM You guys clearly don't understand ... You clearly don't undertsand, that people do understand and still vote FFM skyline ahead of London in all relevant sklyine Polls in SSC. One on One comparsion is an argument for "Best European Skyscraper" Thread, but here it is some kind of minor matter. No 1970 Frankfurt-Box got a vote from me in the one on one competition, but in a skyline poll i would share my vote to FFM and London with light tendencies to FFM. In 2-3 Years things will probably change. Density-comparsion between Hamburg in London was clearly a joke to people who say, London city was dence and try to proof it with tele-zoomed pictures. You don't need to get agressive and act huffy when people do not share your oppinion. You will not reach anything by that, and you will be more angry next time. SO143 August 19th, 2011, 04:59 PM You clearly don't undertsand, that people do understand and still vote FFM skyline ahead of London in all relevant sklyine Polls in SSC. One on One comparsion is an argument for "Best European Skyscraper" Thread, but here it is some kind of minor matter. You are misunderstanding now, the reason why i did mention that 1vs1 contest is because i wanted to express my previous (above) lines about quality, iconic towers and architecture. London will always beat and defeat Frankfurt, Warsaw, or whatever when it comes to icon and recognizable landmarks and towers. On the other hand, London will never get a very dense cluster in the middle of the city because it simply doesn't have any vacancy/space to build these modern towers among preserved old buildings. So what develops do is that they randomly build many towers in various parts of the city (as far as there is space) and one tower to another tower will be very far apart obvious example is CW to City they are 4 miles away each other. Frankfurt has completely different cityscape, nature and environment and it's just irrelevant to compare to cities like Paris and London. This is the original plan for future London skyline and skyscraper constructions have just started, really just about to kick off. There are still many proposed buildings, approved buildings and much more to come. The Shard will be placed/set up as the centre of skyline and constructions will be expended across The City, Canary Wharf and Croydon year by year and finally London will end up with a very very big and enormous skyline. (which i am not a fan of) http://thumbsnap.com/sc/vsJGySKc.jpg Eduardo L. Ramirez August 19th, 2011, 08:23 PM Rotterdam http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6130/6025249220_3b9d74fc1b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roview/6025249220/) Rotterdam rainbow (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roview/6025249220/) by Rogier Vermeulen (http://www.flickr.com/people/roview/), on Flickr Moscow http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6012/5992625883_115e470246_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42617318@N04/5992625883/) moscow-russia-skyline-aerial (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42617318@N04/5992625883/) by djdubrock (http://www.flickr.com/people/42617318@N04/), on Flickr Paris http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6062/6056976733_40730200ca_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/northwoodshelly/6056976733/) P1040334 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/northwoodshelly/6056976733/) by Northwood Park Red Shirt Boy (http://www.flickr.com/people/northwoodshelly/), on Flickr Tiaren August 20th, 2011, 02:13 AM London is sooo "massive" and the "most booming" city, it has the "best architecture" and "best architects", with the "most recognizable" and "most iconic" towers, overall it's the "best in terms of construction and development", "it will always beat and defeat" all the other cities...blargh, blagh... SO143, London and you should get a room. SO143 August 20th, 2011, 02:58 PM Oh la la Europe's densest skyline cluster which contains some of the world's most recognizable and iconic towers. Frankfurt http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6144/6038517520_0826085dc8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/muesca/6038517520/) Mainhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/muesca/6038517520/) by MUESCA61 (http://www.flickr.com/people/muesca/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6144/6043569098_441c76f1df_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formfaktor/6043569098/) Es will mer ned... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formfaktor/6043569098/) by formfaktor (http://www.flickr.com/people/formfaktor/) Tiaren August 20th, 2011, 03:54 PM You are such a troll! You, my friend, are the only one throwing around with superlatives, not us! No reason to mock Frankfurt now... SO143 August 20th, 2011, 04:15 PM ^^ You're bigger troll, you failed to come up with reasonable facts, explanation and argument like i was able to deliver. SO143 August 20th, 2011, 04:15 PM :cheers: Skyline.Fan August 20th, 2011, 06:27 PM London is sooo "massive" and the "most booming" city, it has the "best architecture" and "best architects", with the "most recognizable" and "most iconic" towers, overall it's the "best in terms of construction and development", "it will always beat and defeat" all the other cities...blargh, blagh... SO143, London and you should get a room. http://images.spox.com/emonics/grins1.gif Yeah, his love and support for London are terrible. But don't worry. In 2015 there will be a lot of outstanding skylines in Europe and it will become very very difficult to say which one will be the best. Of course I'm looking foward to Frankfurt's skyline (also with hope for T350 or maybe even T365). Here a picture of middle 2012: http://i52.tinypic.com/xc6f40.jpg cardiac86 August 20th, 2011, 07:09 PM @skyline.fan: Bei der (künstlichen) Erweiterung in dem Bild um die EZB zu sehen, müsste man auch noch Nextower+Jumeirah sehen, oder? Oh la la Europe's densest skyline cluster which contains some of the world's most recognizable and iconic towers. Frankfurt http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8594/5098672459110a784c12b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/5098672459110a784c12b.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us) It always depends on the angle and you know that.... So stop trolling around, we know that London is the best! SO143 August 20th, 2011, 07:30 PM You are such a troll! So stop trolling around Definition of trolls by one of SSC administrators Trolls are people who come here and bring no contribution to the forum but bashing, it's often visible on national attacks. Do not answer their flamme wars, you're only making it worse. PM a moderator rather, we always answer. Since a person like me have contributed so much to SSC, besides i have never started any flame wars and i always come up with reasons, facts, process, explanation and points about why i think this is better than that or vice versa and i always provide sources and evidence to back up my words. So, i think that constantly calling me a troll with no reasons is just literally bashing and insulting a fellow member and this sort of profanity towards other members should not be tolerated cos it's against SSC rules. Anyway, i am outta this skyline discussion and i hope you enjoy your stay. Have fun :cheers2: (PS Don't reply me and don't quote my name for further discussion, Many thanks) alekssa1 August 20th, 2011, 08:12 PM I remember SO143 was standing for paris, rotterdam and especially moscow. it doesnt make him/her trolling in favour of london. And in his/her posts all of us could see different cities and countries. I would not say those sets of photos were prejudiced. Even if he/she says london or moscow are among the best, it is SO143's point of view. il fenomeno August 20th, 2011, 09:00 PM if post #510 isnt trolling, i dont know. BG_PATRIOT August 20th, 2011, 10:51 PM Everyone just STFU and post pictures. kthxbye Paris http://4coolpics.com/pics/0506/292220506079.jpg by Stardust from 4coolpics.com Mossy22 August 20th, 2011, 10:56 PM A few pics for Liverpool :cheers: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3187339919_2a31d6751e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alancookson/3187339919/) Liverpool Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alancookson/3187339919/) by alancookson (http://www.flickr.com/people/alancookson/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/5949689781_168574b898_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/petecarr/5949689781/) Rainbow over Liverpool skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/petecarr/5949689781/) by petecarr (http://www.flickr.com/people/petecarr/), on Flickr http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/3980998474_d87b6629e4_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/el_caruso/3980998474/) New Liverpool 2009 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/el_caruso/3980998474/) by Lee Carus (http://www.flickr.com/people/el_caruso/), on Flickr Los Earth August 21st, 2011, 05:52 AM Nice pics of Liverpool didn't think it would look so nice.^^ isaidso August 21st, 2011, 10:42 AM Best European skyline is the most interesting 'race' of all the continents as there aren't any clear winners. You could make a good case for about 5 different cities. In Asia and America, it's pretty much a 1 or 2 horse race. I've always picked Frankfurt, but it might drop down as low as 5th over the next few years. Paris, London, Istanbul, and Moscow are all building at a much faster pace. Eduardo L. Ramirez August 21st, 2011, 12:42 PM While I agree with you in general, I've got to say that at least Paris isn't "building at a much faster pace" than Frankfurt. In Paris 2 buildings over 100m have been built since 2009, but it were 4 in Frankfurt. Ecological August 21st, 2011, 01:58 PM London's potential is massive and you are starting to see a boom right now with numerous sites breaking ground. 2012 skyline shots during the Olympics will be terrific. Ji-Ja-Jot August 21st, 2011, 07:35 PM Liverpool looks nice. Not massive, but it looks elegant and all fits togehter. It is one of those unoticed and underrated EU skylines I talked about, when I mentioned Hamburg. krkseg1ops August 21st, 2011, 07:45 PM I guess the real beauty is still in the eye of the beholder. When I visited London 3 years ago, there was only the City and CW, which looked terrible from the Royal Observatory point. Same goes for Warsaw and Rotterdam, few years ago it was just a tower-nothing-tower-nothing-some midrise-still nothing type of skyline. In 5 years, there will be many skylines in Europe that are magnificient, not only London. I, for one, like Moscow skyline better for the sole reason of it having a megacluster comprised of several supertall/skyscraper towers, each of them being unique and elegant. London will NEVER look like Moscow simply because it doesn't want to be another Moscow. Apparently user SO**** has been an advocate of massive skylines, I am too, although not so much. So stop the fight please, everyone has its own ideals :) Sid Vicious August 22nd, 2011, 01:08 AM 1. Paris 2. Frankfurt 3. Moscow 4. Istanbul 5. Warsaw 6. Rotterdam 7. Milano 8. Madrid 9. Vienna 10. Berlin, Liverpool or London werner10 August 22nd, 2011, 01:21 AM Four different perspectives on The Hague http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6696/dsc0013bewerkt.jpg by mrbacon http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3979/img5522o.jpg by momo1435 http://i53.tinypic.com/2iucfog.jpg by michiel kievits The Hague as seen from Rotterdam http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6207/6050011010_0781847053_b.jpg Uitzicht op skyline Den Haag by rikvanderkroon, on Flickr - Bonus pic - Sunset in Rotterdam http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6206/6066358951_73b9f1d7cc_b.jpg by rikvanderkroon, on Flickr krkseg1ops August 22nd, 2011, 09:59 AM Wow! I didn't realize Hagues was so close to Rotterdam. Great pictures Werner. Ecological August 22nd, 2011, 11:53 AM Hague is looking spiffing!! I'll always admire Rotterdam as it's a city Birmingham should rival but our construction policies are really hurting us. They've done so well. very jealous. So much vision. Not enough action from Birmingham's point of view. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/5602239101_6ddfb7cb09_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/5974125343_29515b05d1_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2433/4010135670_68c74941d7_z.jpg?zz=1 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4880444274_c4ceb3e9aa_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2613/4008798607_f8ba35a5e0_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3725064958_aa3a5b433f_o.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5175232473_26ec1a3912_b.jpg http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/unauthorisedentry/DSC_6332-1.jpg http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g151/iceman14141414/P1000925.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6077/6065507041_73dfe8b627_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6062/6066056216_b4d8e2ca18_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/6066051808_3f0c69d64f_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6067/6059507072_ec03353ff7_b.jpg Sid Vicious - to put Milan ahead of London and London that low is just complete and utter nonsense. It's not personal oppinion. That's just a pathetic attempt at trolling. Ecological August 22nd, 2011, 12:33 PM Love this pic of London http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6199/6068369466_98d708c7eb_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/6067068845_de1faa57e0_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6201/6067249300_97cd54470b_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6181/6067152590_52c7d338db_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6066911802_34f2f8a5ca_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6083/6066917728_db23ef72ee_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6210/6066289491_705b8ff1ab_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6201/6065596321_ace160f8a5_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6066105802_d3ae3924b3_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6066105802_d3ae3924b3_b.jpg Sid Vicious August 22nd, 2011, 12:45 PM @ecological: sorry if I have hurt your emotions. it is just my opinion. I only admire the gherkin. the other buildings are not so appealing for me. maybe with the shard completed I will rank London above Milano although the italian city is doing well. please dont call me a troll only because our opinions differ a little. quadi August 22nd, 2011, 01:14 PM comparing to skyscraperpage; these are the cities in Europe with the most 100+ skyscrapers, or 100+ skyscrapers under contstruction: 1: Moscow (70) 2: Paris (61) 3: Istanbul (46), but I don't know which ones of these are in Europe 4: London (41) 5: Frankfurt (30) 6: Rotterdam (19) Warzaw (19) 8: Madrid (16) Brussels (16) 10: Benidorm (13) Kiev (13) il fenomeno August 22nd, 2011, 01:22 PM problem is, these statistics include all commieblocks too. i'd rather have a skyline with 10 quality skyscrapers and no commieblocks than a skyline with 10 skyscrapers and 20 commieblocks beside it. Ecological August 22nd, 2011, 01:45 PM @ecological: sorry if I have hurt your emotions. it is just my opinion. I only admire the gherkin. the other buildings are not so appealing for me. maybe with the shard completed I will rank London above Milano although the italian city is doing well. please dont call me a troll only because our opinions differ a little. I have no feeling's to hurt. However. You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you honestly believe what you wrote. You're a just asking for confrontation and you know you are. Really really childish if you ask me. Mature. :cheers: quadi August 22nd, 2011, 01:48 PM problem is, these statistics include all commieblocks too. i'd rather have a skyline with 10 quality skyscrapers and no commieblocks than a skyline with 10 skyscrapers and 20 commieblocks beside it. Indeed, many towers doesn't mean a beutiful skyline. But I have to say I was surprised by the high ranking of cities like Brussels, Cologne (13th) and Kiev, and the low ranking of cities like Benidorm and Madrid... this list shows that Brussels, Kiev and Cologne do have high buildings, so it has to be possible to make beautiful pictures with a beautiful skyline from these cities. quadi August 22nd, 2011, 01:59 PM picture from Brussels http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Brussels_skyline.jpg/752px-Brussels_skyline.jpg Kiev http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Kiev_city_evening.jpg/800px-Kiev_city_evening.jpg Cologne (I hope skyland don't mind that I used his photo) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3816/koeln06042008033xc8.jpg I'm sure there are better pics from these cities, please show them! mark1100 August 23rd, 2011, 04:33 AM http://thumbsnap.com/sc/vsJGySKc.jpg Looks like Manila:ohno: goschio August 23rd, 2011, 08:52 AM http://images.spox.com/emonics/grins1.gif Yeah, his love and support for London are terrible. But don't worry. In 2015 there will be a lot of outstanding skylines in Europe and it will become very very difficult to say which one will be the best. Of course I'm looking foward to Frankfurt's skyline (also with hope for T350 or maybe even T365). Here a picture of middle 2012: http://i52.tinypic.com/xc6f40.jpg Wow beautiful. Taunustower and Maintor will really fill the problem zones. SO143 August 23rd, 2011, 01:28 PM Looks like Manila:ohno: Yeah that's your opinion but the truth is that most of the best towers in Frankfurt were defeated by London's worst towers in One on One Tournament :lol: Believe me when it comes to architecture, Alpha++ Global Cities like London and New York are not behind and of course they hire some of the world's finest architects in order to get top quality designs and iconic buildings in their cities. For me, Paris has the most beautiful skyline/cluster. Night view from the top of Tour Eiffel is just magical and unforgettable. :drool: I also like the architecture of Moscow supertalls but which was insulted by one of your German forumers here called Ja-Ja-Dot something. Even a very iconic building like The Gherkin was criticised/called "cheap bitch at the road side etc" by those trolls like JaJa and Puffer who was banned for constantly bashing. I've no reason to hate Frankfurt or any other city but i just don't like the architecture of Frankfurt that's all. for example (Messy tower's cladding and Comerzbank design) IMO London skyline is not beautiful at all and that's just the way how it is, a massive city that contains many different kinds of buildings and towers. Some of them are incredibly ugly and some are nice, no city can be perfect. This is the original plan for The City skyline in 2012 but unfortunately due to some reasons some of those towers will be finished later than expected. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/London_skyline_2012_panorama.jpg Full Summary in detail http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/8822012skyline_pic1.jpg The City skyline ( current ) http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz180/stack1378/IMG_0023.jpg +Canary Wharf ( current ) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6128/6022865653_6054fabaec_b.jpg Ji-Ja-Jot August 23rd, 2011, 02:10 PM FFM 2020 (buldings next to ECB are already commpleated) http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/frankfurt-all-projects.jpg Tiaren August 23rd, 2011, 02:20 PM Yeah that's your opinion but the truth is that most of the best towers in Frankfurt were defeated by London's worst towers in One on One Tournament :lol: Uargh... I thought you said you were gone for good? :ohno: Frankfurts towers were "defeated" by London because of three simple reasons, even you should be able to see through: 1) London, as a much more prominent city, naturally gets the most votes from around the world! 2) People are biased, most of all if they are inhabitants of a particular city. Around 8 million possible voters in London versus 600k in Frankfurt. 3) As most people admitted, the Frankfurt shots were shit, whereas the London ones were artsy with some spectacular camera angles. Just read the comments! And one thing about the oh so iconic towers in London. There are those skyscraper posters, right? Where the most famous skyscrapers stand beside each other for comparison. Funny how I always see Messeturm and Commerzbank on those for many years now, and recently JUST ONLY the Gherkin of London. And for your information, Frankfurt ranks as an alpha world city too. And as the financial capital of one of the most prosperous countries in the world, it has just as many cash as London and New York to pay the best architects. Skepta August 23rd, 2011, 02:44 PM In my opinion, the Frankfurt skyline is made by the Commerzbank tower - without it I wouldn't rate the skyline anywhere near as highly (Messeturn does nothing for me). That being said, London didn't use to have many pleasant skyscrapers. Canary Wharf is a fairly boring cluster, and while it looks good as a whole, none of the individual buildings in it are particularly inspiring. The City of London has some of the best architecture in the world (bishopsgate, leadenhall, fenchurch, gherkin), but most of them are under construction. At the moment, the CoL is nowhere near dense enough. And of course, the shard is beautiful :cheers: Eduardo L. Ramirez August 23rd, 2011, 03:40 PM Great Frankfurt future skyline visualisation! A pic of Düsseldorf: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8928/25269186.jpg by Markus Pier http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1328071 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) Tiaren August 23rd, 2011, 04:04 PM FFM 2020 (buldings next to ECB are already commpleated) http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/frankfurt-all-projects.jpg Millenium Tower looks so out of place there. I hope it won't get build (on that spot). Though a super tall would be a great addition and SO143 would finally shut about that short coming of Frankfurts skyline. So that there is no misunderstanding. I think Frankfurt is a boring and rather ugly city. The least interesting of all the big cities in Germany and by far no match for cities like London/Paris/Moscow. But I find it ridiculous to play it's skyline, which is top notch for european standarts, down like that or even make fun of it. Skyline.Fan August 23rd, 2011, 05:28 PM The design of the tower will change for sure. This model has just been used for mass demonstrations. And imho, I'd love to have it exactly on this spot. Nevertheless I can't share your opinion about Frankfurt being boring and maybe even ugly. I've been to London and Paris too and both didn't amaze me more than Frankfurt does. Each city has flair, no question, but each one got also massive problems concerning quality of several factors. SO143 August 23rd, 2011, 05:33 PM Uargh... I thought you said you were gone for good? :ohno: Yes i was off for temporary ( due to some school works ) http://www.pic4ever.com/images/288.gif :baeh3: And for your information, Frankfurt ranks as an alpha world city too. And as the financial capital of one of the most prosperous countries in the world, it has just as many cash as London and New York to pay the best architects. Sure, Frankfurt is an Alpha- world city and no doubt German developers can afford to build any skyscraper if they want to. Everyone knows Germany is rich. http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/blush.gif Architects like Norman Foster and Renzo Piano literally produce fine designs for many cities around the world. But, i am so unimpressed by the shape of Comerzbank that looks so chunky with weird antenna on top. Messy tower has great shape but the (70's style) cladding and (kinda pink or red) colour just ruin it's entire beauty, would be my fav one if it was built by crystal clear glass. ( like Bank of America, New York for eg) Moscow is doing great with couple of supertalls and i don't find any flaw until now but one thing that i'd to comment is the colour of Mercy Tower, looks a bit odd to me. ( no offend ) http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif I also love those 4 towers in Madrid they stand out very nicely. Berlin skyline sucks ( sorry ) it's the truth but Reichstag dome looks iconic although it's not a skyscraper. Finally, Paris steals the show with well balanced cluster, some quality buildings and the iconic Tour Eiffel beats any skyscraper. My love for Paris babe. http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dance3.gif http://www.pic4ever.com/images/connie_07.gif http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6004/5921297041_c4e8ea1193_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seryani/5921297041/) [/url] by seryani (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seryani/5921297041/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/5908876363_6c865a576a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremai/5908876363/) by Jeremai Smith (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremai/5908876363/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/6006796946_16268f7a2f_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitro_glicerino/6006796946/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6122/5962673947_071aeda64d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/5962673947/) by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/tiascapes/]TIA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiascapes/5962673947/) cardiac86 August 23rd, 2011, 06:06 PM Millenium Tower looks so out of place there. I hope it won't get build (on that spot). Though a super tall would be a great addition and SO143 would finally shut about that short coming of Frankfurts skyline. . The design of the tower will change for sure. This model has just been used for mass demonstrations. And imho, I'd love to have it exactly on this spot. IF the Millenium Tower will ever be build, there will be the BahnTower (200m+) right next to the MT (on the left side) + there are some smaller highrises (westhafen tower, intercontinental hotel etc), which you cant see on this pic. So, it will become more harmonious as it looks like on this picture. ;) il fenomeno August 23rd, 2011, 06:08 PM Architects like Norman Foster and Renzo Piano literally produce fine designs for many cities around the world. But, i am so unimpressed by the shape of Comerzbank that looks so chunky with weird antenna on top. if commerzbank tower was as ugly as you say, why did it emerge as frankfurts best sykscraper in your omniscient one on one contest? so either way your beloved contest is rigged or commerzbank aint that bad. i'd say its a mixture of both. btw its messeturm not messy turm. since you are aware of its real name, stop trolling. SO143 August 23rd, 2011, 06:25 PM ^ Stop trolling and i wish you wouldn't visit this thread. No aggressor and basher is needed here. Merci. SO143 August 23rd, 2011, 06:28 PM ^ We are all fine here, discussing about skylines peacefully but you always tend to come up with problems, oh well stop trolling and i wish you wouldn't visit this thread. No aggressor and basher is needed here. Thank you. Sid Vicious August 23rd, 2011, 07:10 PM SO143: I guess you are the troll here. you called me a troll because I voted London not as high as you would want me to do. now you call if fenomeno a troll for similar reasons. if you are not able to accept different opinions you better leave this forum. but as I could see that you are still a pupil I can understand your attitude. grow up and come back then. I wish you all the best. cheers Eduardo L. Ramirez August 23rd, 2011, 07:38 PM I think many 'problems' here could be solved if more people would put a little "in my opinion" before (or after) each statement. Bad: "Tower X in City Y is an ugly b*tch" -> "U is an ugly b*tch" Better: "Tower X in City Y doesn't look that nice in my opinion" (In my opinion there's no need to repeat a such a negative feeling in constantly appearing intervals btw, if you said something once (especially something strange, for example 'London isn't amongst the Top 5 of European Skylines' or 'Messyturm looks like a commieblock' it should be fine then, otherwise this seems like you are trying to manipulate other users at best with that behaviour) -> "Hm, well, if you think so.." Madrid http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6133/5973598439_d3f6b43778_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmheredia/5973598439/) Light trails (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmheredia/5973598439/) by CM Heredia (http://www.flickr.com/people/cmheredia/), on Flickr Victhor August 23rd, 2011, 08:55 PM Benidorm http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/6062952063_0847bb7168_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/labrujulainquieta/6062952063/) Benidorm-34 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/labrujulainquieta/6062952063/) por Raul Soler (http://www.flickr.com/people/labrujulainquieta/), en Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6087/6062952929_c5d971c0f6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/labrujulainquieta/6062952929/) Benidorm-35 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/labrujulainquieta/6062952929/) por Raul Soler (http://www.flickr.com/people/labrujulainquieta/), en Flickr Los Earth August 24th, 2011, 12:09 AM All of you are so funny having these little arguments over skylines.:rofl: wouldn't you think, people have their perfect opinions so I'd get over it.Here is my own opinion and don't get all weird about it Moscow London/Frankfurt Paris Warsaw Rotterdam goschio August 24th, 2011, 12:28 AM FFM 2020 (buldings next to ECB are already commpleated) http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/frankfurt-all-projects.jpg Amazing, perhaps one day that gap in ze middle can be closed with some residential highrises. Resdential is certainly the next big thing in Frankfurt. If you look at it, almost the entire skyline consists of office highrises and close to zero residential. Very unusual. IamMusic August 24th, 2011, 01:56 AM If we are talking about today than I would say Frankfurt, Paris and London. If we are talking a decade from now than Moscow will be number 1. Fabrega August 24th, 2011, 05:03 AM 1.Moscow 2.London/Frankfurt 3.Paris 4.Warsaw/Madrid 5.Benidorm/Rotterdam SO143 August 24th, 2011, 07:04 AM SO143: I guess you are the troll here. you called me a troll because I voted London not as high as you would want me to do. now you call if fenomeno a troll for similar reasons. if you are not able to accept different opinions you better leave this forum. but as I could see that you are still a pupil I can understand your attitude. grow up and come back then. I wish you all the best. cheers Situation is already calm and don't start any flame war again. I am here to discuss about the skylines and socialise with other forumers peacefully. My posts are reasonable with facts and explanation. I've never said London has the best skyline and i don't think it also has. But, it deserves to be among top 5. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so ranking would be vary and that's understandable. Since i opened this thread i knew that there might be a lot of trolls, different opinion is more than welcomed, but don't insult and come up with ridiculous comparisons like these. Some trolls attempt - 1. Paris 2. Frankfurt 3. Moscow 4. Istanbul 5. Warsaw 6. Rotterdam 7. Milano 8. Madrid 9. Vienna 10. Berlin, Liverpool or London Hamburg looks denser than London at least. Poor London. It looks to me like an overdone cheap bitch at a roadside (like most towers currently U/C in Moscow). I wish you guys could avoid these kind of ludicrous comparisons and insulting comments in the future. goschio August 24th, 2011, 07:21 AM Please everybody stop the hating. Yellow Fever August 24th, 2011, 07:34 AM alright guys stop fighting or I'll close this thread! the rendering of Frankfurt looks great! Ji-Ja-Jot August 24th, 2011, 09:54 AM the rendering of Frankfurt looks great! Gracias. Half of the work belongs to il fenomeno. Indy G August 24th, 2011, 10:20 AM LA Défense from Eiffel Tower : http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7425/redimensionnementdedsc0z.jpg Ecological August 24th, 2011, 11:43 AM London - Canary Wharf Really hope it continues to build as it is. http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6083/6074723569_13a3c0019d_b.jpg and it's growing rival London - City http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6063/6074824580_a2299bd66e_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6071838492_96096496f7_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/6074795694_bf6c6db7b1_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6186/6071835074_87d1e3ea14_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6064/6071302669_a3b147a5a8_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6068/6071370480_287dcd604d_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6070260055_d90d97c972_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6065/6069928632_c28ac83849_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6210/6069925702_678f933070_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6069598119_c3da0967ec_b.jpg werner10 August 24th, 2011, 06:23 PM The hague by Jeromeo http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6146/5981866403_f16b255f4f_b.jpg Skyline.Fan August 24th, 2011, 10:18 PM Frankfurt :) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6065/6067554788_d6707c8957_b.jpg (c) jano.munter Eduardo L. Ramirez August 24th, 2011, 10:56 PM Nice ones! 2 more of Frankfurt: http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9412/25511854.jpg by Frank Cullmann http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/904174 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/1703/25578959.jpg by Marc Dickler http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/474490 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) harrypowell August 25th, 2011, 02:58 AM 1. Paris 2. Frankfurt 3. Moscow 4. Istanbul 5. Warsaw 6. Rotterdam 7. Milano 8. Madrid 9. Vienna 10. Berlin, Liverpool or London :lol::lol::nuts: harrypowell August 25th, 2011, 03:00 AM Frankfurt is a village compared with London.. Nice skyline tho ... Erhan August 25th, 2011, 06:27 AM comparing to skyscraperpage; these are the cities in Europe with the most 100+ skyscrapers, or 100+ skyscrapers under contstruction: 1: Moscow (70) 2: Paris (61) 3: Istanbul (46), but I don't know which ones of these are in Europe 4: London (41) 5: Frankfurt (30) 6: Rotterdam (19) Warzaw (19) 8: Madrid (16) Brussels (16) 10: Benidorm (13) Kiev (13) This list is terribly wrong, there are at least 79 projects over 100m under construction in Istanbul :lol: quadi August 25th, 2011, 02:51 PM This list is terribly wrong, there are at least 79 projects over 100m under construction in Istanbul :lol: it's possible, but I used skyscraperpage, and it showed it were only 46, but that means that skyscraperpage isn't up to date... Crash_N August 25th, 2011, 08:49 PM http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6084/6072670480_3f4b267b29_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63155621@N04/6072670480/) The City from St. Paul's (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63155621@N04/6072670480/) by Crash_N (http://www.flickr.com/people/63155621@N04/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6078/6051903955_22944fe0cd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63155621@N04/6051903955/) P8100691 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63155621@N04/6051903955/) by Crash_N (http://www.flickr.com/people/63155621@N04/), on Flickr mlody89 August 25th, 2011, 10:06 PM warsaw by soboleuS http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7425/ciesz2.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3969/ciesz4.jpg Sid Vicious August 25th, 2011, 10:38 PM Warsaw looks great. in a few years it will be among the best in europe. Christius Alerius August 25th, 2011, 10:54 PM i go with Paris or Liverpool, Paris is probably my fav, it just has some sparkle added by the Grande Arch dutchsnookerfan August 26th, 2011, 10:03 AM Sorry but some are already canceled not to much but oke. What is the broadgate redevelopment tower. (something weird happend i just saw a picture which is now gone) Trademarc August 27th, 2011, 09:58 AM The Hague: http://i56.tinypic.com/jzt937.jpg European1978 August 27th, 2011, 11:59 PM MILAN - pic by OBLIOT (THANKS) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6196/6086236917_031bc00571_b.jpg TrabaSMThin05 August 28th, 2011, 06:06 AM Madrid, Spain's Hauptstadt http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1816/p1090128z.jpg http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8351/p1090094p.jpg nineteen "80meters-or-taller" buildings of the Madrid city are offscreen on this second picture. SO143 August 28th, 2011, 11:29 PM http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5998469123_271c350ea8_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/ratfinklondon/6002355131/sizes/l/in/photostream/ the view from top floor of the shard http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5193/5858360623_d9fa423a23_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5858360623/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5858360623/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5229/5850705563_a553742316_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850705563/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850705563/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5314/5850665783_1d96031f39_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850665783/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850665783/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5021/5850681167_f0d4023825_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850681167/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850681167/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/5858283557_24ef509091_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5858283557/) New Year's fireworks (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5858283557/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5103/5858997110_7606b5e6fb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5858997110/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5858997110/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5188/5868838845_1c56d78f74_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5868838845/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5868838845/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/5869399570_49a88c4062_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869399570/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869399570/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/5869402966_f6ffbe859b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869402966/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869402966/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/5869408692_5dd65213d1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869408692/) A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869408692/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/), on Flickr Eduardo L. Ramirez August 29th, 2011, 09:25 PM http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7598/25627167.jpg by Gaby Lehr http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1006973 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8155/25637527.jpg by sagmalcheese http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1720204 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) Skyline.Fan August 29th, 2011, 10:12 PM back to business, Frankfurt http://cdn.******************/images/Hessen/Frankfurt-am-Main/Frankfurter-Skyline-Kompakt-a25279766.jpg http://img.******************/images/Hessen/Frankfurt-am-Main/Frankfurt-at-its-Best-a25288868.jpg http://cdn.******************/images/Hessen/Frankfurt-am-Main/Raumteiler-a25278637.jpg All (c)'s belong to Olaf Dziallas http://www.olafdziallas.de SO143 August 29th, 2011, 10:31 PM The City (financial district) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6084/6094354298_14202f589a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/6094354298/) [/url] by carolinepenn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/6094354298/) Canary Wharf (second financial district) as usual http://i.imgur.com/gl2bn.jpg by unknown http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2416/5811628379_7d02273cbf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stumayhew/5811628379/) by stumayhew (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stumayhew/5811628379/) Constructions are going across the city (South London skyline) http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5385488819_4089f30570_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58512931@N03/5385488819/) South London Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58512931@N03/5385488819/) by Manuel.A.69 (http://www.flickr.com/people/58512931@N03/) Southwark skyline, more towers such as The Three Spires and many others will be built in this area to create nother new cluster http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6186/6085358795_0b686bd96f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eddietowers/6085358795/) by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/eddietowers/]Ed Lake (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eddietowers/6085358795/) Croydon skyline by cybertect, as you can see a lot of cranes are popping up, many highrises are U/C and more taller towers to come... http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cybertects/architecture/20110821_0108-pano.jpg mark1100 August 30th, 2011, 01:22 AM Frankfurt again http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6092165432_abbf3357d6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/awokenmind/6092165432/) Frankfurt Skyline - View from Main Plaza (http://www.flickr.com/photos/awokenmind/6092165432/) von awokenMIND (http://www.flickr.com/people/awokenmind/) auf Flickr Los Earth August 30th, 2011, 07:24 AM That picture involves the whole cluster...nice! ^^^ Skyline.Fan August 30th, 2011, 01:21 PM outstanding picture mark! Berlin. August 30th, 2011, 04:18 PM Yes wonderful, indeed. SO143 August 30th, 2011, 07:22 PM MOSCOW http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6204/6092238664_0399b27e32_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6092238664/) [/url] by Serge Freeman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6092238664/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6198/6095527645_ceca99773a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6095527645/) by Serge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6095527645/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/6094094745_8b1e8b8596_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/m-ursus/6094094745/) by Mikhail Ursus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/m-ursus/6094094745/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6191/6042574812_237d23f6b4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexei_322/6042574812/) by alexei_322 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexei_322/6042574812/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6073992026_0d4378d16c_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/denz_ya/6073992026/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/6052073421_9c47b4f0cf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6052073421/) by Freeman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6052073421/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6181/6054885021_38339e48d6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6054885021/) by Serge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6054885021/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/6059129438_06f721c529_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6059129438/) by Freeman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6059129438/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6077/6061615578_02b8579d90_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6061615578/) by Serge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6061615578/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6069091548_318e81e455_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6069091548/) by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/sergefreeman/]Freeman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sergefreeman/6069091548/) krkseg1ops August 30th, 2011, 09:03 PM Moscow will own in 5 years. Eduardo L. Ramirez August 30th, 2011, 10:18 PM Astonoshing pics of Moscow! :applause: Especially the 1st one :eek2: Is this really in Europe?!!? mlody89 August 30th, 2011, 11:41 PM warsaw: http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4139/ozb1.jpg by andsob werner10 August 31st, 2011, 01:00 AM Rotterdam http://www.fotopocket.nl/fpimages/2011/08/30/7f4eba383511ab32d34633734a9048e2/IMG_2438%25Nachtelijke%25skyline%25vanuit%25Nesselande%25%28Large%29.jpg by bigcrunch Harbour of Rotterdam http://www.fotopocket.nl/fpimages/2011/08/30/6d075e40199b395189df5de2733feb42/IMG_2426%25Maasvlakte%25vanaf%25de%25Euromast%25%28Large%29.jpg by bigcrunch Los Earth August 31st, 2011, 01:11 AM ^^^Wow the windmills really contribute to Rotterdam's skyline :lol::lol: leo_mp August 31st, 2011, 04:43 AM Rotterdam truly adds nothing. European1978 August 31st, 2011, 12:37 PM ˆ^Rotterdam has one of the best (top 10) skyline in Europe. Looks like you have never been there. werner10 August 31st, 2011, 02:25 PM Rotterdam - a top skyline in Europe? See for your self: A view years ago http://huibnederhof.nl/webspace4/Rotterdam%20begin%202008_mh.jpg by Huib Nederhof Nowadays http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6029/6019381614_32d8b74651_b.jpg by sash scf downtown http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3405.jpg by Jan the harbour http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2074/dsc02508zsn1.jpg by pruim Overview (several years ago) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/bvdscheur/Steden/skylinerotterdam2005pano.jpg by pruim http://i37.tinypic.com/14w7oly.jpg by Fabian Still the main question is: is this a top European skyline? il fenomeno August 31st, 2011, 05:40 PM top 10 yes. top 3 no. marcobruls August 31st, 2011, 09:48 PM Rotterdam truly adds nothing. When you look at the size of Rotterdam and The Hague and compare that with all the Italian cities and skylines combined,it is Italy that truly adds nothing. To me Rotterdam is an ugly city,but saying its skyline "adds nothing" is just dumb. European1978 August 31st, 2011, 11:13 PM When you look at the size of Rotterdam and The Hague and compare that with all the Italian cities and skylines combined,it is Italy that truly adds nothing. To me Rotterdam is an ugly city,but saying its skyline "adds nothing" is just dumb. Hey guys, now let's not start to bully each other. I like Rotterdam skyline and I said so and I am Italian. That Italy adds nothing is also not true. Milan, Naples and Genova have respectable skylines for European standards. I don't understand this way to speak always bad about others. And Rotterdam is definitely a top 10 in Europe as much as Milan is. I was both in Rotterdam and in Milan several times, as much as I was in Frankfurt, London, Paris etc. etc. MILAN Oliot http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6198/6086238099_7f94658494_o.jpg NAPLES http://i14.tinypic.com/2uruoat.jpg GENOA Genius http://www.youimages.org/public/images/185333009..jpg European1978 August 31st, 2011, 11:34 PM BTW the more I look at the pic of Moscow the more I get the impression it is already the best skyline in Europe. Hope to visit Moscow soon tikiturf September 1st, 2011, 12:09 AM I think Rotterdam's skyline is much better than Milan's one and I find that generally Dutch cities (Rotterdam, Amsterdam, The Hague..) have a better skyline than Italian cities. This is my opinion obviously. ultEmate September 1st, 2011, 12:10 AM Moscow. http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5809/50484535.53/0_515ee_e11e67e1_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333294/) http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333294/ http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5307/50484535.53/0_515ef_63ecff0b_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333295/) http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333295/ http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5810/45215495.77/0_8c040_c484fc64_orig http://bochkarev-msc.livejournal.com/53880.html http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/08.10.11/imbc-1.jpg http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/08.15.11/imbc-2_mal.jpg (http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/08.15.11/imbc-2_bol.jpg) SO143 September 1st, 2011, 01:22 AM Moscow. http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/08.10.11/imbc-1.jpg [/URL] Potential, architecture, energy, quality and height of Moscow puts Frankfurt to shame :ohno: Moscow skyline is very promising :cheers2: :applause: leo_mp September 1st, 2011, 02:14 AM Excuse me. But I think the best skylines in Europe is Moscow, Frankfurt am Main , Milan, Warsaw, Istanbul ... . Rotterdam does not appear at all. mark1100 September 1st, 2011, 02:50 AM Shameful Frankfurt again: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6184/6100894123_525e95e224_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sylvie-bergere/6100894123/) Frankfurt behind the Taunus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sylvie-bergere/6100894123/) von sylvie bergere (http://www.flickr.com/people/sylvie-bergere/) auf Flickr SO143 September 1st, 2011, 03:12 AM its like saying skyline of manila is better than singapore ... mark1100 September 1st, 2011, 03:13 AM its like saying skyline of manila is better than singapore ... What are you responding or who are you talking to? :nuts: SO143 September 1st, 2011, 03:16 AM What is she talking about? quality, cladding, architecture, height, reflection, glazing dont you see the differences? moscow beats frankfurt in any aspect :cheers2: Los Earth September 1st, 2011, 03:46 AM reflection wouldn't count :) :lol: Skyline.Fan September 1st, 2011, 01:51 PM quality, cladding, architecture, height, reflection, glazing dont you see the differences? moscow beats frankfurt in any aspect :cheers2: don't bore us please :troll: il fenomeno September 1st, 2011, 02:03 PM everytime this thread is going well, so143 pops makes it all go down the drain. cant he just make an argument without mentioning frankfurt? :ohno: Ji-Ja-Jot September 1st, 2011, 02:39 PM Frankophobie. ........... Duisburg industrial skyline. http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/37026431.jpg source panoramio SO143 September 1st, 2011, 03:24 PM everytime this thread is going well, so143 pops makes it all go down the drain. :ohno: :lol: let me give you a big hug :hug: Best looking - Moscow followed by Frankfurt and Paris Best quality - Moscow followed by London, Paris and Madrid Most number of over 110 above - Moscow, Pairs and Istanbul ( in no particular order ) Supertalls - Moscow, London Most iconic - Paris and London ( Moscow runner up ) Underrated - Istanbul and Rotterdam The winner - Moscow :kiss: Eduardo L. Ramirez September 1st, 2011, 03:38 PM ^ thanks for the info ;) You are probably the only person I know who thinks that Frankfurt doesn't have superb architecture and quality (imo the other cities mentioned don't even come close, except of London). SO143 September 1st, 2011, 03:59 PM I did check all your links the other day. I mean no offend but some of them look like the ones in Bangkok. :ohno: I am so disappointed by quality and architecture of skyscrapers in Frankfurt. What i was hoping from this city is not the quantity of towers which are massively built across the city like you see in Manila or Kuala Lumpur whatever I want Frankfurt to build only very very high quality and iconic skyscrapers (designed by world's best architects) that represent not only for Germany but on behalf of the entire Euro Zone. An economically very powerful city that manages and controls Europe's most important head quarters, banks, and other big companies, and a city that contains at least a bunch of supertalls like International Commerce Centre, Two Financial Centres in Hong Kong, Bank of America Tower and One World Trade Centre in New York, an icon like The Gherkin and The Shard in London etc that kinda of iconic glass-towers. At the moment the only towers i like are Dutchesche Twins Towers because of their quality of cladding. But, hold on a second, Paris already has tons of that kind of quality towers although they may not be too iconic on the global scale. I am very excited about new European Headquarter tower in Frankfurt, which is defo my type but then again Frankfurt fails to deliver the height, tower is just way too short and wouldn't even be visible if it was built in big cities like New York, London, Moscow for eg. It would be great if they increase the height a bit more, at least 280m will make it perfect although if it's not a supertall. il fenomeno September 1st, 2011, 04:13 PM your problem is, you only consider glass cladded buildings as "quality". i dont know where that comes from. many of the most beautiful sykscrapers around the world are stone cladded. opposed to glass, stone ages in style and is persistent. cardiac86 September 1st, 2011, 04:29 PM At the moment the only towers i like are Dutchesche Twins Towers because of their quality of cladding. But, hold on a second, Paris already has tons of that kind of quality towers although they may not be too iconic on the global scale. I am very excited about new European Headquarter tower in Frankfurt, which is defo my type but then again Frankfurt fails to deliver the height, tower is just way too short and wouldn't even be visible if it was built in big cities like New York, London, Moscow for eg. Yes, glas claddings = high quality, and 220m with antenna = not visible in LONDON! LOL! :banana: You're such a freak! :nuts: Or just a troll.... SO143 September 1st, 2011, 04:45 PM Yes, glas claddings = high quality, and 220m with antenna = not visible in LONDON! LOL! :banana: What are you on about? Is that new European Central Bank 220 m tall? i thought it was only 165 m :dunno: SO143 September 1st, 2011, 04:48 PM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/3994079347_1a37478fec_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benheine/3994079347/) Paris from the Eiffel Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benheine/3994079347/) by Ben Heine (http://www.flickr.com/people/benheine/) Hoogfriesland September 1st, 2011, 04:54 PM 1) Frankfurt 2) London 3) Paris 4) Moscow 5) Warsaw 6) Rotterdam 7) Madrid 8) Istanbul 9) Vienna 10) Milano Eduardo L. Ramirez September 1st, 2011, 05:08 PM I did check all your links the other day. I mean no offend but some of them look like the ones in Bangkok. :ohno: I am so disappointed by quality and architecture of skyscrapers in Frankfurt. What i was hoping from this city is not the quantity of towers which are massively built across the city like you see in Manila or Kuala Lumpur whatever I want Frankfurt to build only very very high quality and iconic skyscrapers (designed by world's best architects) that represent not only for Germany but on behalf of the entire Euro Zone. An economically very powerful city that manages and controls Europe's most important head quarters, banks, and other big companies, and a city that contains at least a bunch of supertalls like International Commerce Centre, Two Financial Centres in Hong Kong, Bank of America Tower and One World Trade Centre in New York, an icon like The Gherkin and The Shard in London etc that kinda of iconic glass-towers. At the moment the only towers i like are Dutchesche Twins Towers because of their quality of cladding. But, hold on a second, Paris already has tons of that kind of quality towers although they may not be too iconic on the global scale. I am very excited about new European Headquarter tower in Frankfurt, which is defo my type but then again Frankfurt fails to deliver the height, tower is just way too short and wouldn't even be visible if it was built in big cities like New York, London, Moscow for eg. It would be great if they increase the height a bit more, at least 280m will make it perfect although if it's not a supertall. While I still agree with your last statement I also still think it isn't the best way to present your opinion/position here like you were telling us facts. With your fixation to "iconic glass claddings" and obvious willingness to implement that fixation also to others (or why do you keep claiming the same thing in almost every post?!?) you at least appear to be some kind of 'special'.. Like mark1100 said: who are you responding/talking to? Why do you have to bring this same thing up again and again :? By the way: ECB will stand at 185m to roof and 220m to antenna. Skyline.Fan September 1st, 2011, 05:12 PM I did check all your links the other day. I mean no offend but some of them look like the ones in Bangkok. :ohno: I am so disappointed by quality and architecture of skyscrapers in Frankfurt. What i was hoping from this city is not the quantity of towers which are massively built across the city like you see in Manila or Kuala Lumpur whatever I want Frankfurt to build only very very high quality and iconic skyscrapers (designed by world's best architects) that represent not only for Germany but on behalf of the entire Euro Zone. An economically very powerful city that manages and controls Europe's most important head quarters, banks, and other big companies, and a city that contains at least a bunch of supertalls like International Commerce Centre, Two Financial Centres in Hong Kong, Bank of America Tower and One World Trade Centre in New York, an icon like The Gherkin and The Shard in London etc that kinda of iconic glass-towers. At the moment the only towers i like are Dutchesche Twins Towers because of their quality of cladding. But, hold on a second, Paris already has tons of that kind of quality towers although they may not be too iconic on the global scale. I am very excited about new European Headquarter tower in Frankfurt, which is defo my type but then again Frankfurt fails to deliver the height, tower is just way too short and wouldn't even be visible if it was built in big cities like New York, London, Moscow for eg. It would be great if they increase the height a bit more, at least 280m will make it perfect although if it's not a supertall. You are sooooooo boring dude. Please get a job, I just can't understand how a normal guy can achieve nearly 7000 posts since February 2011. Go and make love with the Gherkin but stop mentioning it wherever you have the chance to do it. We don't care for your opinion anymore, it's total bullshit you come up with. London can build as many skyscrapers as they want to, it won't look superior to Frankfurt. And be sure, that nothing will ever beat the Messeturm in Frankfurt. Basically the Empire State Building of Europe. And do us all a favour, go and look up the names. It's fuckin ridiculous to see a guy with 7000 posts in a skyscraper forum to call famous buildings Dutchesche Twins Towers or Mesi Tower. And your love for Moscow is a joke, 20 km's ahead of these skyscrapers, people freeze to death because the heating installations don't run in winter. Moscow's skyline is a hilarious try to look superior, but if you love clean structures, then Moscow, Putin and his crazy oil billionaires who are responsible for this out of reality skyline just can make you smile. I'm done with you, you're not even worth the single move of my fingers on my keyboard. SO143 September 1st, 2011, 05:23 PM Like mark1100 said: who are you responding/talking to? Why do you have to bring this same thing up again and again :? Forget it, he just wants everyone to say Frankfurt has the best skyline :weird: ECB will stand at 185m to roof and 220m to antenna. Spire will not make an impact on the skyline but 185m is not short at all, gotta wait to see how the cladding will turn up for this decent looking tower. Broadgate tower in London is 165m tall but it is hardly visible from any angle. Most people don't even notice it. :) SO143 September 1st, 2011, 05:28 PM London can build as many skyscrapers as they want to, it won't look superior to Frankfurt. Indeed, vice versa. Frankfurt can build anything they want to, but it will never become an Alpha++ world city like New York or London or other Global cities like Paris and Tokyo. Stop dreaming. I am fed up of yall patriotism. You are sooooooo boring dude. Same to you, you're too boring and you just hate anyone if their opinion is different to yours. I don't give a crap about London, i am tired of hearing this name. By the way, i am not from UK or Europe, i have been to London only for a visit, for gods sake i gotta stop mentioning this bullocks repeatedly :cheers2: :nuts: krkseg1ops September 1st, 2011, 06:18 PM Frankfurt can build anything they want to, but it will never become an Alpha++ world city like New York or London or other Global cities like Paris and Tokyo. Stop dreaming. This is pure trolling. Stop this, you're being ridiculous with your prejudiced opinion. SO143 September 1st, 2011, 06:26 PM ^ Sorry my bad, Frankfurt is the best, neither Moscow nor whatever will never/ever be able to catch up with Frankfurt, geez! cardiac86 September 1st, 2011, 06:27 PM LOL. Again... you are always mixing up talking about the SKYLINE of a city and the city itself. Dude, this is ridicilious! We all know that London is an Alpha++ city and Frankfurt is not. We all know, that London is a capital with ~14mio people in the metropolitan area and Frankfurt is not. But that has NOTHING to do with the skyline of the city. Actually, one can reverse it: It's embarassing for London to compete with a small city like Frankfurt in terms of the skyline. For every skyscraper under construction in Frankfurt, London should have 5 or more under construction. But that's not the way I (or we) discuss in this thread. Its all about skyline. Get it. Please. Tiaren September 1st, 2011, 07:00 PM And to add yet something else to SO143. Please shut up about: "You just hate anyone if their opinion is different to yours" Actually YOU are the one, who presents his opinions as facts all the time. ultEmate September 1st, 2011, 07:07 PM Moscow. http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/21.jpg http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/20.jpg http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/18.jpg http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/13.jpg http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/12.jpg http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/03.jpg http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/01.jpg http://zyalt.livejournal.com/448370.html Erhan September 1st, 2011, 07:12 PM Istanbul http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/5973185880_e61715aa59_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16441477@N05/5973185880/) a view of my window. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16441477@N05/5973185880/) by nature photographer. (http://www.flickr.com/people/16441477@N05/), on Flickr http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5585289658_2ce636a52b_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheratonhotels/5585289658/) Sheraton Istanbul Maslak Hotel—Panorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheratonhotels/5585289658/) by Sheraton Hotels and Resorts (http://www.flickr.com/people/sheratonhotels/), on Flickr ultEmate September 1st, 2011, 07:14 PM And your love for Moscow is a joke, 20 km's ahead of these skyscrapers, people freeze to death because the heating installations don't run in winter. Moscow's skyline is a hilarious try to look superior, but if you love clean structures, then Moscow, Putin and his crazy oil billionaires who are responsible for this out of reality skyline just can make you smile. Man, you're retarded. I live 1000km away from Moscow and I'm doing better than you. :D cardiac86 September 1st, 2011, 07:51 PM Great pics of Moscow and Istanbul. I was in Istanbul in 2005, wow, this city is fuckin BOOMING! Skepta September 1st, 2011, 08:42 PM You are sooooooo boring dude. Please get a job, I just can't understand how a normal guy can achieve nearly 7000 posts since February 2011. London can build as many skyscrapers as they want to, it won't look superior to Frankfurt. And be sure, that nothing will ever beat the Messeturm in Frankfurt. Basically the Empire State Building of Europe. And do us all a favour, go and look up the names. It's fuckin ridiculous to see a guy with 7000 posts in a skyscraper forum to call famous buildings Dutchesche Twins Towers or Mesi Tower. I actually value his posts - maybe you should show some more appreciation, he posts more skyline pics from a wider range of cities than anyone else has on this thread. And your point re: Frankfurt towers are nicer. :nuts: Japan Center is a shocking example to pick, in my opinion it's hideous. And I also think Messeturm is shockingly overrated, it just looks like a big crayon stuck into the ground. Nowhere near iconic enough/large enough to be called the ESB of Europe :lol: I'm not a huge fan of the London skyline - I think it's among the best of a very average group in Europe (compared to Asian and NA skylines). But some of the individual skyscrapers (being) built - such as the Shard, Pinnacle, Leadenhall, Fenchurch, Gherkin, HSBC (voted best box tower in the world, according to one of these SSC polls) - are stunning examples of architecture and would do any city proud. By comparison, the only tower in Frankfurt I find attractive is Commerzbank. I still think the Frankfurt skyline is currently every bit as good as London's, I just wish there were more people willing to accept that both are among the best in Europe. It seems most of the people who like London disregard the Frankfurt skyline, and vice versa. tikiturf September 1st, 2011, 08:53 PM For me the best skyline in Europe is London and the top 10 is : 1) London 2) Paris 3) Frankfurt 4) Moscow 5) Istanbul 6) Rotterdam 7) Milan 8) Warsaw 9) Vienna 10) Madrid cardiac86 September 1st, 2011, 09:00 PM In the end, it just a matter of taste. For example, I like many towers in Frankfurt, but Commerzbank is one of the ugliest (imo!). In contrast to other cities, in Frankfurt there is kind of revival of Art Deco, call it neo-art deco, with elements of 20s-german architecture. All over the world, the skyscrapers get glas claddings, which became quite boring for me. In SO143s opinion, glas cladding is a sign of quality. Thats just untrue. He may prefer glas claddings, but it has nothing do to with quality or "iconic design". Additionally, he's always mixing archicture of skyscrapers, a city's skyline and a city's global importance, depending on what fits to defend Londons skyline. :x Overall, I like both skylines. And I like the skylines of Moscow, Warcaw, Istanbul and Paris as well! Oh wait. Thats impossible... ;-) Countach September 1st, 2011, 09:43 PM When you look at the size of Rotterdam and The Hague and compare that with all the Italian cities and skylines combined,it is Italy that truly adds nothing. To me Rotterdam is an ugly city,but saying its skyline "adds nothing" is just dumb. As other forumers were showing you, Italy has at least 3 skylines better than european avarage. I prefer Italian skylines, and according to my taste Milan is about to overtake Rotterdam, and I like Naples more that The Hague... but I will never say bad things about duch cities (Rotterdam's skyline is still one of my favourite in Europe). Threads like this one, should be a way to enjoy the beauy of European cities, not a way to fight or insult each other. Skyline.Fan September 1st, 2011, 10:32 PM Man, you're retarded. I live 1000km away from Moscow and I'm doing better than you. :D I don't care where you live. I actually value his posts - maybe you should show some more appreciation, he posts more skyline pics from a wider range of cities than anyone else has on this thread. We seem to have found a reason for the nearly 7000 posts of him. And your point re: Frankfurt towers are nicer. :nuts: Japan Center is a shocking example to pick, in my opinion it's hideous. And I also think Messeturm is shockingly overrated, it just looks like a big crayon stuck into the ground. Nowhere near iconic enough/large enough to be called the ESB of Europe :lol: I'm not a huge fan of the London skyline - I think it's among the best of a very average group in Europe (compared to Asian and NA skylines). But some of the individual skyscrapers (being) built - such as the Shard, Pinnacle, Leadenhall, Fenchurch, Gherkin, HSBC (voted best box tower in the world, according to one of these SSC polls) - are stunning examples of architecture and would do any city proud. By comparison, the only tower in Frankfurt I find attractive is Commerzbank. I still think the Frankfurt skyline is currently every bit as good as London's, I just wish there were more people willing to accept that both are among the best in Europe. It seems most of the people who like London disregard the Frankfurt skyline, and vice versa. My opinion is easy. If you love skyscrapers, then it's (imho) impossible to dislike the Messeturm. But of course I respect your opinion about it. Maybe you would change your opinion in front of it. Your favourite building of Frankfurt seems to be the Commerzbank Tower, for me it is a great building too, but Foster did a very bad job on the upper part, even I have enough taste and skillz to create a better ending of this building. I've been to Paris and I've been to London and both skylines didn't fascinate as much as Frankfurt does, that's my truth and without patriotic feelings. London as city was also a big dissapointment for me aswell, so is the design of the Shard and the Gherkin too. But how the hell would I be if i would call them shit or low quality buildings just because they don't represent the designs which I favour?! The Pinnacle is a building I'd love to have in Frankfurt too, though they kinda copied it from Paris. All in all I can't stand opinions from people like SO143 who love to find hairs in the soup. Don't hail Frankfurt, just respect it and all is fine. Ji-Ja-Jot September 1st, 2011, 10:52 PM I actually value his posts - maybe you should show some more appreciation, he posts more skyline pics from a wider range of cities than anyone else has on this thread. Not true, there is another user doing the same. But not by trying to get attention, so you probably did not recognise him. .................................... To contribute some words to the Thread-Topic: I am not a fan of Moscows modern glass towers (as you will see, when SO will quote me again, to proof whatever he has to proof), but this "old" shape rocks. I like the seven sisters and the triumph palace, too. They give Moscow an individual and recognisable architecture. http://varlamov.me/img/moscow_hotel1/18.jpg I'm not a huge fan of the London skyline - I think it's among the best of a very average group in Europe (compared to Asian and NA skylines). But some of the individual skyscrapers (being) built - such as the Shard, Pinnacle, Leadenhall, Fenchurch, Gherkin, HSBC (voted best box tower in the world, according to one of these SSC polls) - are stunning examples of architecture and would do any city proud. By comparison, the only tower in Frankfurt I find attractive is Commerzbank. I don't like commerzbank tower. Its grey cladding seems dirty in nearly every light. But I share your oppnion about London towers, expept Gherkin and Frenchurch. Pinnacle will be the best one in Europe - until Phare get's hopefully build. SO143 September 1st, 2011, 11:50 PM Let's hear SO143's opinion I think i love you because you're a very lovely person and i got no doubt that Frankfurt skyline is the best in Europe, ok? Now, please leave me alone and enjoy some pics i took in La Defense, lots of love to you <3 :hug: http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/he_and_she/kiss3.gif we good? http://i.imgur.com/8qsBE.jpg http://i.imgur.com/y50SI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PPdsN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PZxh4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tWPvJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jNBbN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/okQ4i.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7plSy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/n3vvL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/m8HkN.jpg SO143 September 1st, 2011, 11:51 PM Apologies if photos are not well taken. http://i.imgur.com/p1yCI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZdqNm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1bGGX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rTOgN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2Xd6b.jpg Skepta September 2nd, 2011, 12:00 AM Your favourite building of Frankfurt seems to be the Commerzbank Tower, for me it is a great building too, but Foster did a very bad job on the upper part, even I have enough taste and skillz to create a better ending of this building. London as city was also a big dissapointment for me aswell, so is the design of the Shard and the Gherkin too. I'm losing a bit of love for the Shard, but (imho) the Gherkin is the best looking skyscraper in the world. Don't hail Frankfurt, just respect it and all is fine. Totally agreed, but this goes both ways. There are people not respecting London too. Not true, there is another user doing the same. But not by trying to get attention, so you probably did not recognise him. The same is true in a lot of threads though - see The Barracks in UK skybar etc. I don't like commerzbank tower. Its grey cladding seems dirty in nearly every light. But I share your oppnion about London towers, expept Gherkin and Frenchurch. Pinnacle will be the best one in Europe - until Phare get's hopefully build. Two Gherkin dislikers in consecutive posts?! Never thought I'd see the day. Out of curiosity, do either of you like Torre Agbar? And Commerzbank isn't as great during the day, but it is stunning at night. The centrepiece of most/all of the great shots of the Frankfurt night-time skyline! Eduardo L. Ramirez September 2nd, 2011, 12:46 AM http://i.imgur.com/y50SI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PPdsN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/m8HkN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1bGGX.jpg Nice pics of Paris, SO :applause: Eduardo L. Ramirez September 2nd, 2011, 01:11 AM A few pics of London I found on the web: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6073/6102434101_8b0296893b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/groberts100/6102434101/) London horizon. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/groberts100/6102434101/) by groberts100 (http://www.flickr.com/people/groberts100/), on Flickr Some parts of London's historical skyline http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6088/6102212033_79f3c427a7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mliebenberg/6102212033/) London Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mliebenberg/6102212033/) by mliebenberg (http://www.flickr.com/people/mliebenberg/), on Flickr http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8014/25528340.jpg by Mario Maindl http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/503918 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5946/25526565.jpg by Maik Meier http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1693049 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5882/25475947.jpg by AEPA http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1673108 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4996/19656904.jpg by chexma http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1496860 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) And 3 more of O2 Arena / Canary Wharf http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/6050965808_5ffed45ca9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ridertravels/6050965808/) Panorama of Millennium Dome (O2) and Canary Wharf (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ridertravels/6050965808/) by jamesrider (http://www.flickr.com/people/ridertravels/), on Flickr http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8199/23160073.jpg by MCamera http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/972070 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8969/25450883.jpg by Johann Härtl http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1600465 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) croomm September 2nd, 2011, 02:35 AM And your love for Moscow is a joke, 20 km's ahead of these skyscrapers, people freeze to death because the heating installations don't run in winter. source please?)) Envy - bad feeling) 1. London 2. Moscow 3. Paris/Frankfurt soloveich September 2nd, 2011, 02:38 AM U too? How is London skyline any good? croomm September 2nd, 2011, 02:48 AM I like design of London skyscrapers, (height is not important for me) besides, Moscow`s skyline is not completed yet. Waiting for Evolution tower and rebirth of Russia Tower) goschio September 2nd, 2011, 03:04 AM What are you on about? Is that new European Central Bank 220 m tall? i thought it was only 165 m :dunno: This just shows how little you know and you keep trolling the skyline threads. mark1100 September 2nd, 2011, 03:45 AM More low quality Towers from Frankfurt: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6073/6070041155_0e2dfdd57e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38550509@N07/6070041155/) ffm skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38550509@N07/6070041155/) von d-fourty (http://www.flickr.com/people/38550509@N07/) auf Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6142/6004750085_c85634cd38_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogui83/6004750085/) Mainhatten (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogui83/6004750085/) von mogui83 (http://www.flickr.com/people/mogui83/) auf Flickr http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3451/5728033173_05ea2ae599_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peda-one/5728033173/) mainhatten (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peda-one/5728033173/) von pedaone (http://www.flickr.com/people/peda-one/) auf Flickr Fabrega September 2nd, 2011, 07:19 AM Madrid Azca with render/photo of the new windsor tower http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5805/portada1314533201portad.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/148/portada1314533201portad.jpg/) kio towers plus cuatro torres http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3151/madridhere.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/madridhere.jpg/) by madridhere from urbanity.es Ji-Ja-Jot September 2nd, 2011, 09:52 AM I think i love you because you're a very lovely person and i got no doubt that Frankfurt skyline is the best in Europe, ok? Sorry, but I still think, that London and FFM currently share this title, but you never realised it, because you are still upset and blinded by my Gherkin comment. ;) BTW: nice pictures of La Defence. :) tovan September 2nd, 2011, 11:31 AM for me: 1. Frankfurt / Paris 2. Moscow / Istanbul 3. London 4. Warsaw 5. Rotterdam usap September 2nd, 2011, 11:52 AM http://i.imgur.com/8qsBE.jpg hello SO143 this is not LD but "Le front de Seine" in Paris Skyline.Fan September 2nd, 2011, 01:29 PM Two Gherkin dislikers in consecutive posts?! Never thought I'd see the day. Out of curiosity, do either of you like Torre Agbar? Totally dislike, even the Gherkin looks better. (but don't forget, that's just my opinion! :)) And Commerzbank isn't as great during the day, but it is stunning at night. The centrepiece of most/all of the great shots of the Frankfurt night-time skyline! True, at night it looks just wonderful ... :) tovan September 2nd, 2011, 02:20 PM I don't like the Gherkin either. I don't get the hype around it. Until the new generation of skyscrapers (Shard, Leadenhall) is completed, the Gherkin is the best London has to offer though, so I guess some people had to hype this building. SO143 September 2nd, 2011, 02:46 PM Because it is not only a building but also one of the most important modern landmarks of London. (like London Eye for eg) Like it or not is your choice alright. I quote; Since its completion, the building has won a number of prestigious awards for architecture. In October 2004, the building was awarded the 2004 RIBA Stirling Prize. For the first time in the prize's history, the judges reached a unanimous decision. In December 2005, a survey of the world's largest firms of architects published in 2006 BD World Architecture 200 voted the tower as the most admired new building in the world. The building also featured in recent movies such as Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, Sharon Stone's Basic Instinct 2 and Woody Allen's Match Point and, rechristened the Spirit of London, became the spaceship centrepiece of Keith Mansfield's 2008 novel Johnny Mackintosh and the Spirit of London. On 21 February 2007, IVG Immobilien AG and UK investment firm Evans Randall completed their joint purchase of the building for GB£630 million ($1.26 billion), making it Britain's most expensive office building. It also won The Emporis Skyscraper Gold Award presented by Emporis GmbH which is a Frankfurt based real estate data mining company. http://i.imgur.com/25PT3.jpg In SO143s opinion, glas cladding is a sign of quality. Thats just untrue. He may prefer glas claddings, but it has nothing do to with quality or "iconic design". I don't think so, not every glass tower is iconic for example Gallileo tower in Frankfurt is also a glass tower but it is neither quality nor iconic. Most new generation towers have shiny or pure/quality glass cladding such as Tour First, The Pinnacle, One World Trade Centre, The Shard, Leadenhall, Bank of America, Mode Gakuen Cocoon etc and i love them because they represent for the future and modern architecture unlike stoned cladding which takes you back to the old ancient era. Here are some towers that won architecture awards given by Germany based company, i like them all except Het Strikijizer. Sorry. http://i.imgur.com/qgsuS.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emporis_Skyscraper_Award Edit: one thing left to say: Frankfurt skyline is better than the best. Peace <3 SO143 September 3rd, 2011, 12:20 AM Hi boys and girls, how are you? why is this thread not attracting everyone's attention as it used to, so quiet, no? :lol: Let's make this thread the most popular one in Hall of Fame section, deal? And i need your help to make it happen :yes: Anyway for my lovely fans, I got some new pics of Europe's best skyline ... Enjoy http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/drinks.gif http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6144/6043569098_441c76f1df_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formfaktor/6043569098/) Es will mer ned... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formfaktor/6043569098/) by formfaktor (http://www.flickr.com/people/formfaktor/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6192/6043562932_839d11fd10_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formfaktor/6043562932/) ... wie kann ein Mensch ned in Frankfurt sein. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formfaktor/6043562932/) by formfaktor (http://www.flickr.com/people/formfaktor/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6073/6070041155_0e2dfdd57e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38550509@N07/6070041155/) ffm skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38550509@N07/6070041155/) by d-fourty (http://www.flickr.com/people/38550509@N07/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6086620983_b7d75e0d73_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreasduck/6086620983/) Skyline Frankfurt (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreasduck/6086620983/) by andreasduck (http://www.flickr.com/people/andreasduck/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6078/6083278579_20f82a0ca5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scratchbeck/6083278579/) skyline-frankfurt-1090371 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scratchbeck/6083278579/) by stbeck (http://www.flickr.com/people/scratchbeck/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6086/6070258243_0ffd76a3a5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebasstian/6070258243/) Short refuel Stop (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebasstian/6070258243/) by Ghost of Electricity (http://www.flickr.com/people/sebasstian/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6081/6046262519_ec8582fd51_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/66422972@N04/6046262519/ Eduardo L. Ramirez September 3rd, 2011, 02:17 AM Some more pictures Paris http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6192/6083708932_a17ac8fc68_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotu_matua/6083708932/) Blue (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotu_matua/6083708932/) by Hotu Matua (http://www.flickr.com/people/hotu_matua/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6077/6101491249_4a42238fa7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42837071@N03/6101491249/) Paris skyline at sunset from the Eiffel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42837071@N03/6101491249/) by CIBER Study Abroad (http://www.flickr.com/people/42837071@N03/), on Flickr The Hague http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6088/6089639314_134fd0e9da_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris1971/6089639314/) Den Haag (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris1971/6089639314/) by Chris 1971 (http://www.flickr.com/people/chris1971/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/5995142797_62fd8171d3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/snijssen/5995142797/) Plein @ The Hague (http://www.flickr.com/photos/snijssen/5995142797/) by Siegfried Nijssen (http://www.flickr.com/people/snijssen/), on Flickr Vienna http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6076/6102445844_c59128dbf7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinayakh/6102445844/) Vienna Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinayakh/6102445844/) by VinayakH (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinayakh/), on Flickr http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5113235903_cc8ef91e4b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aelianus/5113235903/) Vienna Donau City High Fog (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aelianus/5113235903/) by Aelianus (http://www.flickr.com/people/aelianus/), on Flickr goschio September 3rd, 2011, 03:35 AM ^ Really like the new DenHaag skyline. Well done. SO143 September 3rd, 2011, 04:13 AM http://i.imgur.com/Wjvis.jpg by chest http://i.imgur.com/wv4jw.jpg stack1378 http://i.imgur.com/jflGu.jpg by Finbar Bogerd http://i.imgur.com/R6kBT.png by Finbar Bogerd Los Earth September 3rd, 2011, 04:20 AM Paris needs a super tall in the middle of that cluster:yes: SO143 September 3rd, 2011, 04:27 AM Paris needs a super tall in the middle of that cluster:yes: +1 They will get two supertalls in the future. ultEmate September 3rd, 2011, 09:11 AM http://s.photosight.ru/img/3/d46/4338326_large.jpg [URL="http://www.photosight.ru/users/276989/"]Gordienko Anatoly Fabrega September 3rd, 2011, 07:04 PM Moscow reminds me of the first time I saw a supertall. I think only Moscow, Frankfurt, London, Madrid and now Paris are the only European cities that have buildings that can give me that vertigo feeling from the ground. Something you can't describe in pictures and it is why I love skyscrapers. CoralCersei September 3rd, 2011, 10:20 PM La Défense http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/93/p1040016gi.jpg Los Earth September 4th, 2011, 01:00 AM :ohno:^^ Moscow would have had a nice cluster of 11 buildings but it's been reduced to nine, ever since City Duma and Russia Tower were kicked out. ultEmate September 4th, 2011, 06:26 AM :ohno:^^ Moscow would have had a nice cluster of 11 buildings but it's been reduced to nine, ever since City Duma and Russia Tower were kicked out. Looks like instead of Russia tower (520000 sq meters) there will be another project for 250000 m2. Same goes for City Duma. http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2011/09/01/market/562949981380251 krkseg1ops September 4th, 2011, 09:57 AM Great news! But it seems like the original Russia Tower project got scrapped and they will be building something much smaller :( Brad September 4th, 2011, 12:30 PM Great news! But it seems like the original Russia Tower project got scrapped and they will be building something much smaller :(Moscow skyline (I mean Moscow City) "needs" several 180-250 metres tall skyscrapers more, not one 600 metres tall. serhat September 4th, 2011, 06:34 PM Istanbul http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/56850233.jpg Panoramio Eduardo L. Ramirez September 4th, 2011, 08:26 PM Barcelona http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6081/6074800356_526fb3e933_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dao09/6074800356/) Barcelona, Spain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dao09/6074800356/) by D-A-O (http://www.flickr.com/people/dao09/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6002/5991829245_1aaf6f7c5a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/polispol/5991829245/) dia de lluvia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/polispol/5991829245/) by POLisPOL (http://www.flickr.com/people/polispol/), on Flickr Valencia http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/4640959715_2e9a8fafb2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cristianbaitg/4640959715/) Valencia Spain City of Arts and Science (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cristianbaitg/4640959715/) by Cristian Baitg (http://www.flickr.com/people/cristianbaitg/), on Flickr Eduardo L. Ramirez September 4th, 2011, 09:20 PM F r a n k f u r t http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4193/25689810.jpg by Willi Ernst http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/608754 Hosted on imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) ja.centy September 4th, 2011, 09:52 PM quoting from another thread, as suggested Hi folks, after having gone through the last 20 pages or so, it's now become fairly clear as to what my favourites would be. My absolute top is London. In terms of Central London, I find both the modern skyscrapers and historic buildings well blended in the scenery (it looks stunning e.g. on photos taken from the Golden Gallery at St Paul's Cathedral). Very vibrant and cosmopolitan look altogether. The other interesting and/or impressive ones would be Moscow, Warsaw, Naples and Liverpool. Also, have to say there's something I like about Benidorm. In particular, I'm really glad that Warsaw is catching up fast with good style. I've done a small compilation of a few pics, consisting of the aerial shot (the National Stadium under construction is captured as well) and the city skyline. Enjoy. :) by adeaide http://blog.grzegorztomicki.pl/tmp/lot_nad_warszawa/IMG_6810.jpg (source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=82629028&postcount=1753) by Przemysław Zacharuk http://images37.fotosik.pl/1039/2db7d9151f4fea63.jpg (source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=65675217&postcount=712) by martm http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5061/dsc03554yi.jpg (source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=76216015&postcount=2852) by andsob http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7024/zlota3.jpg (source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=78921252&postcount=11988) http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4139/ozb1.jpg (source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83346684&postcount=705) mark1100 September 5th, 2011, 03:04 AM Essen http://www.jojo-goes-australia.de/wp-content/gallery/jojos-galerie/a01_v_essen-skyline.jpg AJIekc September 5th, 2011, 03:36 PM http://i081.radikal.ru/1109/51/69b8dbdc2356.jpg SO143 September 5th, 2011, 04:00 PM A couple of more photos from La Defense, Paris http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6196/6106700504_7d7be9e054_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zachstone/6106700504/) [/url] by zach (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zachstone/6106700504/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6198/6114323720_366085fdcc_b.jpg [url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/7334297@N04/6114323720/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6087/6113693047_9d758aac53_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/61724527@N03/6113693047/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6113338017_4a0c33b1b5_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/nbretecher/6113338017/sizes/l/in/photostream/ terminado September 5th, 2011, 08:19 PM 1-Paris 2-London 3-Istanbul though they all look great compared to my shit city arab :bash: Eduardo L. Ramirez September 5th, 2011, 09:46 PM R o t t e r d a m http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6087/6116498119_f37d8d348b_b.jpg Rotterdam (http://www.flickr.com/photos/66523358@N03/6116498119/) by Iskak.T (http://www.flickr.com/photos/66523358@N03/), on Flickr benassie September 5th, 2011, 09:54 PM A couple of things 1: Paris is overrated and I don't like la Defense 2: Madrid has a couple of high buildings but it's just not a complete skyline 3:Frankfurt has quiet a nice skyline but i'm getting bored of all the pictures of the commerzbank 4: Warsaw is upcoming but it's certainly not top5 and ofzourse not before Rotterdam or Moskow My top 10 1 London (has a beautiful complete skyline) 2 Moskow (great buildings) 3 Frankfurt 4 Rotterdam (fantastic skyline the most beautiful pictures come from here and benidorm) 5 Benidorm 6 Istanbul 7 The hague (this is booming 2011 will be the year for theme) 8 Warsaw 9 Madrid 10 Paris krkseg1ops September 5th, 2011, 11:06 PM Pardon my question sir, but are you high? Overrated Paris? Getting bored with Commerzbank pictures? London with beautiful and complete skyline? I will agree on Madrid and Warsaw but the rest is just a mockery. benassie September 5th, 2011, 11:24 PM I've never done any smoking in my life and i''m not high but yes sir this is how I think about it and it's okay if you don't agree everybody has his own opinion Los Earth September 5th, 2011, 11:35 PM Looks like instead of Russia tower (520000 sq meters) there will be another project for 250000 m2. Same goes for City Duma. http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2011/09/01/market/562949981380251 Oh that's good news. Nice to hear that. Pardon my question sir, but are you high? Overrated Paris? Getting bored with Commerzbank pictures? London with beautiful and complete skyline? I will agree on Madrid and Warsaw but the rest is just a mockery. Eh, everyone has their own opinion even though I do think Paris is not tall enough (but good) CoralCersei September 6th, 2011, 12:05 AM A couple of things 1: Paris is overrated and I don't like la Defense 2: Madrid has a couple of high buildings but it's just not a complete skyline 3:Frankfurt has quiet a nice skyline but i'm getting bored of all the pictures of the commerzbank 4: Warsaw is upcoming but it's certainly not top5 and ofzourse not before Rotterdam or Moskow My top 10 1 London (has a beautiful complete skyline) 2 Moskow (great buildings) 3 Frankfurt 4 Rotterdam (fantastic skyline the most beautiful pictures come from here and benidorm) 5 Benidorm 6 Istanbul 7 The hague (this is booming 2011 will be the year for theme) 8 Warsaw 9 Madrid 10 Paris Paris is overrated but Benidorm is great. Thank you for your input. :cheers: norbert91 September 6th, 2011, 10:50 AM http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4055/ciesz1.jpg by Soboleus sieradzanin1 September 6th, 2011, 02:58 PM Warsaw by Lessi,ty mój! http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8490/sdc14569.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/148/sdc14569.jpg/) Copperknickers September 6th, 2011, 07:18 PM In my opinion: London Paris Madrid Warsaw Istanbul I'd put Moscow in at the top but I don't really count Russia as Europe. And Frankfurt has about 3 proper iconic skyscrapers, all of which I find reminiscent of some 1960s Futuristic architecture that has no place in reality. Especially that hideous commerzbank thing. Germany should look to London, in particular the Heron tower, for the effect it was trying to achieve with that one. Skyline.Fan September 6th, 2011, 08:13 PM And Frankfurt has about 3 proper iconic skyscrapers, all of which I find reminiscent of some 1960s Futuristic architecture that has no place in reality. Especially that hideous commerzbank thing. Germany should look to London, in particular the Heron tower, for the effect it was trying to achieve with that one. Yes the famous and mighty Heron Tower, the most iconic and most beautiful tower with the best glass facade ever built ... :lol: il fenomeno September 6th, 2011, 08:43 PM it fail to see the effect, but you can propably elaborate that. http://bywaysbyrailway.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/img_5498rs.jpg? Tiaren September 6th, 2011, 09:07 PM In my opinion: London Paris Madrid Warsaw Istanbul I'd put Moscow in at the top but I don't really count Russia as Europe. And Frankfurt has about 3 proper iconic skyscrapers, all of which I find reminiscent of some 1960s Futuristic architecture that has no place in reality. Especially that hideous commerzbank thing. Germany should look to London, in particular the Heron tower, for the effect it was trying to achieve with that one. So, you don't even put Frankfurt in your top five list, complaining it has only "3 proper iconic scrapers"... that's okay with me. But now please tell us of Wasaw's or Instanbul's iconic scrapers. Those cities are on your list, so they must do considerably better than Frankfurt? :) Sid Vicious September 6th, 2011, 09:21 PM dont feed the troll Fabrega September 7th, 2011, 01:29 AM A couple of things 1: Paris is overrated and I don't like la Defense 2: Madrid has a couple of high buildings but it's just not a complete skyline 3:Frankfurt has quiet a nice skyline but i'm getting bored of all the pictures of the commerzbank 4: Warsaw is upcoming but it's certainly not top5 and ofzourse not before Rotterdam or Moskow My top 10 1 London (has a beautiful complete skyline) 2 Moskow (great buildings) 3 Frankfurt 4 Rotterdam (fantastic skyline the most beautiful pictures come from here and benidorm) 5 Benidorm 6 Istanbul 7 The hague (this is booming 2011 will be the year for theme) 8 Warsaw 9 Madrid 10 Paris This list is a little nationalist, common the Hague? and Rotterdam 4th? Everyone knows that if you put a "real skyscraper" in any of those 2 cities they would kind of look like OKC. They are the only 2 cities in that list that haven't broke the 200m mark with Benidorm which has a 200m tower in construction. http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2143/devontowerprogress83111.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/devontowerprogress83111.jpg/) http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9136/okcskylinejet826112.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/okcskylinejet826112.jpg/) pics by HotRod The tallest tower was a 150m which is now dwarf by the 257m Devon tower Rotterdam Strong points to me are: Nice Setup next to the water, Above average residential tower design (unlike Benidorm), good number of towers. weak points: Height, Not many glassy office buildings (but must admit i love that 150m glass tower they have) I love skyscrapers so i wouldn't place it in the top 5 and if you are one of those that think height is not important then there is much better historical skylines all over Europe. Skyline.Fan September 7th, 2011, 01:29 PM dont feed the troll hihi :angel: Newcastle Guy September 7th, 2011, 04:25 PM A good one of London's two most iconic skyscrapers together: by murphyz (http://www.flickr.com/people/murphyzmike/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6119762436_05411c3c09_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murphyzmike/6119762436/) benassie September 7th, 2011, 05:24 PM [QUOTE=Fabrega;83553220]This list is a little nationalist, common the Hague? and Rotterdam 4th? Everyone knows that if you put a "real skyscraper" in any of those 2 cities they would kind of look like OKC. They are the only 2 cities in that list that haven't broke the 200m mark with Benidorm which has a 200m tower in construction. heey Fabrega tha'ts correct my top 10 was a bit nationalistic and the things you say are right about the 200 meter height but if I compare rotterdam to warsaw although i'm from holland it's definately Rotterdam but that's my view werner10 September 7th, 2011, 07:52 PM Rotterdam http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4705015361_f7ffbfd312_o.jpg by topaas http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4705015571_6cc4a28716_o.jpg by topaas >>>>>> http://www.skylinecity.info/rotterdam/fotos/panorama/sk_0051.jpg by skylinecity.info Jex7844 September 7th, 2011, 10:43 PM PARIS LA DEFENSE http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5443367897_a11e832074_b.jpg By Albert Debrujn http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6201/6059193861_6cf59b811a_b.jpg By SirBali http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5424177695_063f836bb1_b.jpg By Christophe Robert mlody89 September 7th, 2011, 11:33 PM warsaw http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad161/panzbylu/4-9.jpg by zbylu86 http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6207/6117497502_10ffd7014a_b.jpg http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6114/sdc14363u.jpg lessi,ty moj benassie September 8th, 2011, 06:44 PM i'm sorry everybody I now admit that warsaw's skyline is better than The Hague SO143 September 8th, 2011, 09:07 PM Southwark skyline http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/6127969388_ca3ba65504_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6127969388/) The Sun right behind the Shard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6127969388/) by IanVisits (http://www.flickr.com/people/ianvisits/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6186/6085358795_0b686bd96f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eddietowers/6085358795/) [/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/eddietowers/]Ed Lake (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eddietowers/6085358795/) West End Skyline http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6146/6034784986_edd75b1624_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murphyzmike/6034784986/) King Kong vs London (http://www.flickr.com/photos/murphyzmike/6034784986/) by murphyz (http://www.flickr.com/people/murphyzmike/) Elvenking September 9th, 2011, 01:15 AM http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9738/dsc1275s.jpg Warsaw Los Earth September 9th, 2011, 07:07 AM :happy:^^I like that picture of king kong! Brad September 9th, 2011, 08:08 AM The Warsaw's skyline is improving _Mort_ September 9th, 2011, 12:17 PM http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3323/dsc1223w.jpg Warsaw tikiturf September 9th, 2011, 06:25 PM Some Paris-La Défense photos : http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/4816024365_ce656f32d4_b.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4875414418_457c1868de_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5504927897_a867ff6b3c_b.jpg http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/950/11119601.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/5872781393_d82bc43f5d_b.jpg And not in La Défense : http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6287/2705450515915741306b.jpg Tiaren September 9th, 2011, 07:49 PM Paris doesn't need any modern skyline. It's Europe's most amazing capital just like that... SO143 September 9th, 2011, 08:05 PM http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/paris.jpg by interlight (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=77231191) RaySthlm September 9th, 2011, 08:49 PM Such a tiny skyline :( tikiturf September 9th, 2011, 08:53 PM Such a tiny skyline :( From this angle it is, but I think it's because La Défense is far from the Montparnasse Tower Skyline.Fan September 9th, 2011, 09:42 PM outstanding picture of Paris! mark1100 September 10th, 2011, 12:05 AM http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/paris.jpg by interlight (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=77231191) whts the tall white structure at the front de seine? 100m tall mosque minaret? Mike____ September 10th, 2011, 12:43 AM ^^I looked for it in google earth and no its not a minaret (luckily) AMS guy September 10th, 2011, 01:53 AM whts the tall white structure at the front de seine? 100m tall mosque minaret? Here you can take a closer look at this "minaret" ;) http://i.imgur.com/8qsBE.jpg leo_mp September 10th, 2011, 07:11 PM Milan, Naples are among the best together to Frankfurt, Warsaw, Moscow and Paris. Brad September 10th, 2011, 07:30 PM by rimsky http://www.axinet.ru/photoplog/file.php?n=8820&w=o http://www.axinet.ru/photoplog/file.php?n=8821&w=o -------------------- by РВСН http://img-minsk.fotki.yandex.ru/get/5814/88584334.29/0_6f698_300bb4ec_XXL.jpg http://img-minsk.fotki.yandex.ru/get/5410/88584334.29/0_6f691_e8c65789_XXL.jpg **RS** September 10th, 2011, 07:58 PM Moscow http://s.photosight.ru/img/3/d46/4338326_large.jpg Gordienko Anatoly (http://www.photosight.ru/users/276989/) Los Earth September 10th, 2011, 08:59 PM ^^I've seen this picture hundreds of times. Los Earth September 10th, 2011, 09:01 PM by rimsky -------------------- by РВСН http://img-minsk.fotki.yandex.ru/get/5410/88584334.29/0_6f691_e8c65789_XXL.jpg Ohh I like the "fog":banana: Brad September 10th, 2011, 11:31 PM Ohh I like the "fog":banana:These are the low clouds ... or the high skyscrapers :) mlody89 September 11th, 2011, 02:20 PM warsaw http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1418/dsc09420y.jpg http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5125/dsc09411l.jpg http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2255/dsc09432z.jpg werner10 September 11th, 2011, 02:32 PM Rotterdam http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1178/4728591142_f745d88488_o.jpg by topaas http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/wolkenkrabberfreak/Rotterdam/SL551030.jpg by racingfreak http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4705657262_9c84ae210d_o.jpg by topaas http://i50.tinypic.com/2e1y5js.jpg by topaas AMS guy September 11th, 2011, 03:49 PM Milan, Naples are among the best together to Frankfurt, Warsaw, Moscow and Paris. Naples? You must be kidding. Its CBD has just a few towers around 110 meters high, all built in the early 1990s. Nothing happens there since then. sky diver 29 September 11th, 2011, 08:46 PM Warsaw looks graet!!! werner10 September 11th, 2011, 09:59 PM Rotterdam http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1107/5104385644_ab1b42948f_b.jpg by jeromeo http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4427944852_f7bee01f96_o.jpg by topaas http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3477/stad7.jpg by rotterdam skyhigh http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/4677976070_b4c0db4a08_o.jpg a Topaas pic http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4677347815_ed9e86e828_o.jpg a Topaas pic http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4677347567_7478ccb81a_o.jpg a Topaas pic An overview>>>>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4608471463_d2713ec9ef_o.jpg by jeromeo il fenomeno September 11th, 2011, 09:59 PM http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6137242434_12baa66e47_b.jpg? Eduardo L. Ramirez September 11th, 2011, 11:04 PM Good pics guys :cheers: My Top 10 (only modern of course) exclusively out of Italian and Dutch cities: 1) Rotterdam http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6137603972_6d5fb56dda_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zzapback/6137603972/) Rotterdam / View from the Tearoom roof / Van Nelle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zzapback/6137603972/) by zzapback (http://www.flickr.com/people/zzapback/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6159/6134647614_049a1370ab_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roypoots/6134647614/) Rotterdam skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roypoots/6134647614/) by RoyzNL (http://www.flickr.com/people/roypoots/), on Flickr 2) The Hague http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6079/6134293456_95413bc414_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14677002@N07/6134293456/) Skyline Den Haag (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14677002@N07/6134293456/) by Frits van den Dop (http://www.flickr.com/people/14677002@N07/), on Flickr http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/5838740704_b54e51e863_b.jpg Den Haag (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20298307@N00/5838740704/) by Vanda2006 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20298307@N00/), on Flickr 3) Milan http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/6093871845_b7df32c31b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/obliot/6093871845/) Milano - Sunrise (http://www.flickr.com/photos/obliot/6093871845/) by Obliot (http://www.flickr.com/people/obliot/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/6082468407_2dc5568537_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paolomargari/6082468407/) Pirelloni (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paolomargari/6082468407/) by Paolo Margari (http://www.flickr.com/people/paolomargari/), on Flickr Eduardo L. Ramirez September 11th, 2011, 11:05 PM 4) Amsterdam http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1315/5121661084_c00f1d50bd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/durr-architect/5121661084/) _DSC2321 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/durr-architect/5121661084/) by durr-architect (http://www.flickr.com/people/durr-architect/), on Flickr 5) Naples http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2433425418_95c7f743ef.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/goutroy/2433425418/) IMG_8479 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/goutroy/2433425418/) by goutroy (http://www.flickr.com/people/goutroy/), on Flickr 6) Utrecht http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1051/5131859281_689c94e83b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anneverheul/5131859281/) 15 seconden Utrecht (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anneverheul/5131859281/) by Anne Verheul (http://www.flickr.com/people/anneverheul/), on Flickr 7) Brescia http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/5323545516_ba051d1476.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eziozigliani/5323545516/) Brescia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eziozigliani/5323545516/) by EzioZigliani (http://www.flickr.com/people/eziozigliani/), on Flickr 8) Eindhoven http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/84053886_db2796a0fa.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/knaaq/84053886/) Eindhoven Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/knaaq/84053886/) by knaaq (http://www.flickr.com/people/knaaq/), on Flickr 9) Genova http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4398145071_b28b17f0ca.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiz1986/4398145071/) Skyline genovese (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiz1986/4398145071/) by tiz1986 (http://www.flickr.com/people/tiz1986/), on Flickr 10) Leeuwarden http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5298/5428951300_83afbe1da2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16835940@N07/5428951300/) Skyline Leeuwarden. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16835940@N07/5428951300/) by 7jopie (http://www.flickr.com/people/16835940@N07/), on Flickr il fenomeno September 12th, 2011, 08:44 PM http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6068/6140699513_3066fb1542_b.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6073/6141253068_6e87a99b2f_b.jpg Eduardo L. Ramirez September 12th, 2011, 09:25 PM Stunning pics! One more of Frankfurt that I found (opposite direction): http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6174/6139440335_fe058b69e6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ablicht/6139440335/) nuvole (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ablicht/6139440335/) by jsg.hvgg (http://www.flickr.com/people/ablicht/), on Flickr Los Earth September 13th, 2011, 04:14 AM I like it!!:happy: Skyline.Fan September 13th, 2011, 04:18 PM I love Frankfurt ... :drool: mlody89 September 13th, 2011, 11:24 PM warsaw by polex http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3703/img0916os.jpg Los Earth September 14th, 2011, 01:34 AM that picture of Warsaw looks a bit like Frankfurt. Really Great! timo9 September 14th, 2011, 03:37 AM Moscow. http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5809/50484535.53/0_515ee_e11e67e1_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333294/) http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333294/ http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5307/50484535.53/0_515ef_63ecff0b_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333295/) http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/parktower99911/view/333295/ http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5810/45215495.77/0_8c040_c484fc64_orig http://bochkarev-msc.livejournal.com/53880.html http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/08.10.11/imbc-1.jpg http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/08.15.11/imbc-2_mal.jpg (http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/08.15.11/imbc-2_bol.jpg) stunning ^^ krkseg1ops September 14th, 2011, 11:26 AM MIBC will soon become the best CBD of all! Can't wait for evolution to start growing, as well as 16IBCa and b towers. mark1100 September 14th, 2011, 03:37 PM Berlin Skyline vom Teufelsberg ausgesehen http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mg5532zykm9niu7g.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net) (Fotos von mir) Brad September 14th, 2011, 08:42 PM MIBC will soon become the best CBD of all! Can't wait for evolution to start growing, as well as 16IBCa and b towers.:okay: good knowledge about the Moscow IBC ) Lukasz_en September 14th, 2011, 09:25 PM Warsaw Dwie fotki z profilu na FB : http://strony.aster.pl/michcianek/zlotko11.jpg autor: Jarek Extase Budyta Christius Alerius September 14th, 2011, 11:44 PM We all know its Paris. Ricardo Montaner September 15th, 2011, 01:33 AM We all know its Paris.Agree Jota September 15th, 2011, 04:03 AM Barcelona skyline: http://www.barcelonaskyline.com/user/scr/2011-08-05-011.jpg BARCELONA SKYLINE http://www.barcelonaskyline.com/user/scr/2011-08-d188_426.jpg Victhor September 15th, 2011, 11:50 AM http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6164/6147441903_5b0341c222_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25054049@N05/6147441903/) Benidorm (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25054049@N05/6147441903/) por Jorge Esteban Renedo (http://www.flickr.com/people/25054049@N05/), en Flickr AMS guy September 15th, 2011, 11:19 PM http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6164/6147441903_5b0341c222_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25054049@N05/6147441903/) Benidorm (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25054049@N05/6147441903/) por Jorge Esteban Renedo (http://www.flickr.com/people/25054049@N05/), en Flickr ^^ European answer to Hong Kong's skyline ;) Los Earth September 17th, 2011, 01:31 AM :rofl:Yeah but 5,000 meters shorter. ^^ Newcastle Guy September 17th, 2011, 05:44 PM By UK forumer Chest: from the 18th floor of the Broadgate tower... http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_5980.jpg http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_6006.jpg http://web.me.com/benveasey/_MG_5990.jpg lianli September 17th, 2011, 07:47 PM :rofl:Yeah but 5,000 meters shorter. ^^ ...and without any quality skyscrapers. SoboleuS September 17th, 2011, 08:00 PM My Warsaw shots: http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6014/blue4b.jpg By andsob (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andsob) http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3230/blue8m.jpg By andsob (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andsob) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1600/lownoc3.jpg By andsob (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andsob) http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6804/lownoc5.jpg By andsob (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/andsob) VitMos September 17th, 2011, 08:57 PM Moscow http://pics.livejournal.com/mordolff/pic/003hasa6 http://pics.livejournal.com/mordolff/pic/003hehz1 Brad September 17th, 2011, 10:06 PM These must be quite old - last winter. Only the Mercury tower has grown since then though. VitMos September 18th, 2011, 01:36 PM Moscow http://images.chistoprudov.ru/lj/aero/robinson_1/29.jpg http://images.chistoprudov.ru/lj/aero/robinson_1/21.jpg http://images.chistoprudov.ru/lj/aero/robinson_1/20.jpg http://chistoprudov.livejournal.com/81004.html bonivison September 19th, 2011, 02:53 PM The large contrast between new and traditional parts of Moscow, Paris, London is just charming, give me a feeling that I'm not travel in a city but in time tunnel! Love them very much. I rank these three on the top ones, but no particular order. In fact, I had a chance to visit London this year, but I lost it, I must visit these places in the future!:) GENIUS LOCI September 21st, 2011, 10:43 AM .. Milano some pics by dreamjay (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=79291) http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1440/p1110949.jpg http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6541/p1110950.jpg http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2650/p1110982j.jpg http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1950/p1110981.jpg http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1384/p1110989ys.jpg http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8933/p1120022.jpg http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9623/p1120021i.jpg |