Discuss best European skylines here.

Please no trolling, no swearing, no bashing and no fighting each other in this thread etc.

Thank you for all your contribution and enjoy :cheers2:




Let me start with some of Europe's biggest and best skylines (Note:This is not ranking list)

Canary Wharf, London
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5150/5637852309_3fa27271bf_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stburge/5637852309/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5300/5535416203_b2718fe1cc_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60804338@N08/5535416203/sizes/l/in/photostream/

The City, London
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5249/5258946386_8b8a3b0993_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frantic_indolence_/5258946386/)
[/url] by frantic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frantic_indolence_/5258946386/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/5716373944_32c75251b4_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39566013@N05/5709680771/sizes/l/in/photostream/



La Defense, Paris
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5028/5683039927_8343d314b9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-perez/5683039927/)
by davidpc_ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-perez/5683039927/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3391/5723398271_09b89f963b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmrichard/5723398271/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmrichard/5723398271/) by emmrichard (http://www.flickr.com/people/emmrichard/)



Frankfurt
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/5713361131_a854635e0b_b.jpg
by Leuchtkraft (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leuchkraft/5713361131/)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8681/24665806.jpg
by Christian G. Mainusch http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1163245


Rotterdam
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/5270731455_66318d9e73_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2139555...n/photostream/


Madrid
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3279/326411438849ca6a84d6b.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3279/326411438849ca6a84d6b.jpg


Istanbul
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/5316845565_7bcfc7c601_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pishtii/5316845565/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/pishtii/]pishtii (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pishtii/5316845565/)


Moscow
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5803/stu4ite.0/0_7c576_3e8da25c_XXXL.jpg


Warsaw
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9074/dsc0871q.jpg
by hubi on imageshack

Sorry guys, i can not think of other European skylines. But, you may post those pictures by yourself, Cheers :)

why london. it doesn`t even come close to be in the top 5 of europe. :ohno:
1. Frankfurt
2. Moscow
3. Istanbul
4. Paris
5. Warsaw
6. Rotterdam
7. Milano

^^^^
[b] Please no trolling, no swearing, no bashing and no fighting each other in this thread etc.

Well that didn't take long did it?

For me.

1. Frankfurt
2. London
3. Moscow
4. Paris

The rest can scrap it out between themselves

Frankfurt

why london. it doesn`t even come close to be in the top 5 of europe. :ohno:

If you think Frankfurt is No.1 then London easily should be in top 3.
Just compare the aerial view of these two cities, you will clearly see how small Frankfurt skyline is compared to massive London skylines and in terms of architecture and iconic towers London is superior and far ahead of Frankfurt which also lacks of supertall.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8681/24665806.jpg
by Christian G. Mainusch http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1163245

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/5716373944_32c75251b4_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39566013@N05/5709680771/sizes/l/in/photostream/

1. Frankfurt
2. Paris (La Defense)
3. Moscow
4. London
5. Barcelona
6. Rotterdam
7. Madrid
8. Benidorm
9. Istanbul

I love most of the skylines, each one in a different way, so I make a try

Density: 1. Benidorm (3p), 2. Paris (2p), 3. London (1p)
Size: Benidorm, London, Istanbul
Charming: Rotterdam, Frankfurt, London
Height: Moscow, Frankfurt, Madrid
Best cluster: Paris, Moscow, Frankfurt
Modern: Moscow, London, Frankfurt
Best planned: Frankfurt, Rotterdam, Benidorm
Best architecture: London, Rotterdam, Frankfurt
Improving: London, Milan, Rotterdam.

Total:
1. London 12 points
2. Frankfurt 10 points
3. Benidorm 7 points
3. Rotterdam 7 points
5. Moscow 6 points
6. Paris 5 points
7. Milan 2 points
8. Istanbul 1 point
8. Madrid 1 point

1. Frankfurt
2. Paris (La Defense)
3. Moscow
4. London
5. Barcelona
6. Rotterdam
7. Madrid
8. Benidorm
9. Istanbul


i have to give justice to barcelona
though it's not as tall and as dense as the others, it is one of the most well-defined and visually appealing skylines in europe!

me gustan estas fotos de Barcelona. se ve tan celestial ... España tiene una de las mejores skylines en Europa!


http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu99/shelterbcn/5152898606_63acf3c1eb_o.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5212/5384438461_6a9f183b7a_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuk/5384438461/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Desde Montjuic a mi parecer se recogen las mejores imágenes de Barcelona , eso si , en la zona de Diagonal Mar falta algo de más altura para que termine de destacar la zona y la Agbar con 30 o 40 metros más y rodeada de algún edificio de 100 metros seria la hostia , pero bueno no nos vamos a quejar que las vistas son preciosas .



http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu99/shelterbcn/Dibujo1.jpg


my new list would be
1. Frankfurt
2. Barcelona
3. Paris (La Defense)
4. Moscow
5. London
6. Rotterdam
7. Madrid
8. Benidorm
9. Istanbul

Birmingham
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5182/5635323869_89d9460e50_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benbobjr/5635323869/)
[/url] by benbobjr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benbobjr/5635323869/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4290821340_53965a64f4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markjamesbrown/4290821340/)
by markjamesbrown (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markjamesbrown/4290821340/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5202518186_bb2e1f7141_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthur1/5202518186/)
by Stephen Piggott (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthur1/5202518186/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5010/5202143451_8f8c95b41e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthur1/5202143451/)
by Stephen Piggott (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthur1/5202143451/)


Liverpool
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2755/4392932861_beab07f26f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotpixuk/4392932861/)
365-243 Liverpool Pier Head At Dusk Panorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotpixuk/4392932861/) by Hotpix UK Tony Smith [tidying slient contacts] (http://www.flickr.com/people/hotpixuk/), on Flickr[/img]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2951166053_0bc3d4b0f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/will-lee/2951166053/)
by DigitalRelish (http://www.flickr.com/photos/will-lee/2951166053/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5308/5607358012_18573b8df6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwong2009/5607358012/)
by Jeff Wong* (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwong2009/5607358012/)


Warsaw
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2433/5730452754_4d6f08d282_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5730452754/)
by DocentX (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5730452754/)


Istanbul
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5101/5729901877_b67ac9a05e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5729901877/)
by Sabahat (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5729901877/)


Moscow
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5730452548_effe5c9a8d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5730452548/)
by Dmitry A. Mott (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5730452548/)


Madrid
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5084/5729902035_26013d4025_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5729902035/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/59826480@N06/]Svensson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59826480@N06/5729902035/)

^^ I get that, you want to claim Barcelona has 2nd best skyline in the whole Europe :cool:

I gotta go there and check that out how Europe's second best skyline looks like ... Ohh poor Europe...

that's on a personal note... i already mentioned it's neither tall nor dense, nevertheless it's well defined and visually appealing... you are always free to think otherwise! and my list can even change in split of a second like it always do...:lol:

If you think Frankfurt is No.1 then London easily should be in top 3.
Just compare the aerial view of these two cities, you will clearly see how small Frankfurt skyline is compared to massive London skylines and in terms of architecture and iconic towers London is superior and far ahead of Frankfurt which also lacks of supertall.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8681/24665806.jpg
by Christian G. Mainusch http://www.******************/pc/account/myprofile/1163245

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/5716373944_32c75251b4_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39566013@N05/5709680771/sizes/l/in/photostream/

these aren't even skylines at all... a dense aerial doesn't necessarily translate to a better skyline... the same shots taken of dhaka and frankfurt would suggest dhaka has better skyline!:lol:

skylines from Birmingham, Liverpool or Madrid should not be in this thread.
these are far away from being the best of Europe.

^^

Paris
London
Frankfurt that's it. You can get rip off the rest if you want to.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/179/dsc0002bewerktbewerkt.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/dsc0002bewerktbewerkt.jpg/)
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:)

^^

Paris
London
Frankfurt that's it. You can get rip off the rest if you want to.

I would include Warsaw in this list. it is really promising for the near future.
I guess in 5 years it could be even Nr.1 in Europe with its amazing projects
on the run. :cheers:

@disturbing reality
wtf are you talking about ? Frankfurt has no skyline. o.k. I show a pic of it:
http://i55.tinypic.com/264qqzl.jpg

skylines from Birmingham, Liverpool or Madrid should not be in this thread.
these are far away from being the best of Europe.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
Madrid has 4 or the six tallest EU skyscrapers.
Madrid had the tallest skyscraper in Europe in 1929 (Edificio Telefónica, 88m) and in 1957 again (Torre de Madrid, 142m). Madrid has 14 +100m buildings, all of them are office or historic buildings.
Have you ever seen a pic of Madrid?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
Madrid has 4 or the six tallest EU skyscrapers.
Madrid had the tallest skyscraper in Europe in 1929 (Edificio Telefónica, 88m) and in 1957 again (Torre de Madrid, 142m). Madrid has 14 +100m buildings, all of them are office or historic buildings.
Have you ever seen a pic of Madrid?

I have been in Madrid last year and I can tell you it is lightyears away from
being the best in Europe. It got 4 scrapers and these seem very lonesome.
from far away like the airport you just see these 4 scrapers.
Frankfurt got 14 scrapers, not 4. :lol: the two tallest of Frankfurt are taller
than your 4 ! so how do you think you got 4 of the 6 tallest in europe :nuts:
that would mean that you have the 4 tallest in Europe except Frankfurt.
what is with Paris, London, Warsaw...?
btw. what is the height of the 4 towers of Madrid ?

http://i.imgur.com/Ayfde.jpg

1. Paris
2. London
3. Moscow
4. Rotterdam
5. Frankfurt

http://i.imgur.com/Ayfde.jpg

this diagram is dated. in Frankfurt there are 12 Buildings taller than 150m
existing and 2 more uc, ecb headquaters and the taunustower.
tower 185 is nearly finished. maybe this year another 3 towers will be uc. :cheers:

@disturbing reality
wtf are you talking about ? Frankfurt has no skyline. o.k. I show a pic of it:
http://i55.tinypic.com/264qqzl.jpg

what do you call that then? it's small, ok! but it's good!
anyway, to each his own so just carry on! and leave me alone!:bash:

^^ sorry I misunderstood you :cheers:

just forget about it...:drunk:

http://i.imgur.com/Ayfde.jpg
From the european skylines pictures thread:

No pictures this time. Sorry for that, but a list of completed buildings taller than 90 meter in the EU.

1. Paris - 112 buildings
2. London - 49 buildings
3. Frankfurt - 38 buildings
4. Benidorm - 35 buildings
5. Rotterdam - 30 buildings
6. Brussels - 22 buildings
7. Warsaw - 21 buildings
8. Vienna - 20 buildings
9. Madrid - 17 buildings
10. Berlin - 15 buildings

It's between Paris and London for me. I liked the pics for Liverpool, though, even if they may not qualify.

My first post! :)

i'm reconsidering my list and i'm also giving each of my top 10 a rating and a comparison on how they fare with my top 10 skylines overall:


MY PERSONAL TOP TEN SKYLINES
1. New York City 9.50/10
2. Hong Kong 9.10/10
3. Chicago 9.00/10
4. Shanghai 8.75/10
5. Dubai 8.60/10
6. Toronto 8.30/10
7. Bangkok 8.25/10
8. Gold Coast 8.20/10
9. Singapore 8.15/10
10. Seattle 8.10/10


in europe
1. Frankfurt 5.6/10
2. Paris 5.5/10
3. Barcelona 5.2/10
4. London 5.1/10
5. Moscow 4.9/10
6. Benidorm 4.8.10
7. Rotterdam 4.5/10
8. Madrid 4.2/10
9. Istanbul 4.1/10

From the european skylines pictures thread:

Both lists are not wrong and obviously as you can see the difference in these two surveys. The first table surveyed by wikipedia is based on skyscrapers which are at least 115-125m tall. And his list is also true that Paris has tons of residential highrises that are between 85-95m :)


Cities with top 10 tallest skyscrapers in EU

Madrid - 4
London - 3
Frankfurt - 2
Paris - 1


Cities with top 20 tallest skyscrapers in Europe

Moscow - 8
Madrid - 4
London - 3
Frankfurt - 2
Istanbul - 2
Paris - 1

Madrid had the tallest skyscraper in Europe in 1929 (Edificio Telefónica, 88m) and in 1957 again (Torre de Madrid, 142m)
Are you sure
Timeline of tallest buildings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Europe)
City of Capitals: Moscow Moscow 2009–present
Naberezhnaya Tower C Moscow 2007–2009
Triumph-Palace Moscow 2005–2007
Commerzbank Tower Frankfurt 1997–2005
Messeturm Frankfurt 1990–1997
Moscow State University Moscow 1953–1990
Kotelnicheskaya Embankment Moscow 1952–1953
Boerentoren Antwerp 1932-1952

I make the most classical choice: Frankfurt, Istanbul, Moscow, London, Paris, Warsaw, in no particular order

I love that aerial of London! Looks really impressive :okay:

Both lists are not wrong and obviously as you can see the difference in these two surveys. The first table surveyed by wikipedia is based on skyscrapers which are at least 115-125m tall. And his list is also true that Paris has tons of residential highrises that are between 85-95m :)


Cities with top 10 tallest skyscrapers in EU

Madrid - 4
London - 3
Frankfurt - 2
Paris - 1

And which 3 in London would that be? I suppose you don't include buildings that don't exist currently.

According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Europe):

Cities with top 10 of tallest skyscrapers in EU

Moscow - 5
Frankfurt - 2
Madrid - 2
Istanbul - 1


Cities with top 20 tallest skyscrapers in Europe

Moscow - 8
Madrid - 4
London - 3
Frankfurt - 2
Istanbul - 2
Paris - 1

Moscow - 8
Madrid - 4
London - 2
Frankfurt - 2
Istanbul - 2
Paris - 1
Warsaw - 1

In context of the top 10 list surprisingly almost correct (except of London and Warsaw)

Cities with top 10 of tallest skyscrapers in EU

Moscow - 5
Frankfurt - 2
Madrid - 2
Istanbul - 1

Well, you don't count Moscow because it is not part of EU ;)




Cities with top 20 tallest skyscrapers in Europe

Moscow - 8
Madrid - 4
London - 2
Frankfurt - 2
Istanbul - 2
Paris - 1
Warsaw - 1

In context of the top 10 list surprisingly almost correct (except of London and Warsaw)

I don't count things like Communication towers, Eiffiel Tower (Cultural type), TV antennae, Churches spires and Chimneys etc. So i thought that tallest one in Warsaw is some kind of like Cultural type that's why i didn't put it in the list and i put The Shard instead because it currently standing at 280m+ which is taller than any other U/C towers in EU. Isn't it fair lol :D i can change my list if you want.


Istanbul
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2526/3837641873_c8a5fd39a7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmakice/3837641873/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmakice/3837641873/) by kmakice (http://www.flickr.com/people/kmakice/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/5135191950_8f3e0fdab8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spirosk/5135191950/)
[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/spirosk/]SpirosK (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spirosk/5135191950/)

Warsaw
http://i.imgur.com/2Kk5F.jpg

I have been in Madrid last year and I can tell you it is lightyears away from
being the best in Europe. It got 4 scrapers and these seem very lonesome.
from far away like the airport you just see these 4 scrapers.
Frankfurt got 14 scrapers, not 4. :lol: the two tallest of Frankfurt are taller
than your 4 ! so how do you think you got 4 of the 6 tallest in europe :nuts:
that would mean that you have the 4 tallest in Europe except Frankfurt.
what is with Paris, London, Warsaw...?
btw. what is the height of the 4 towers of Madrid ?
What you saw from far away is not the reality.
I didn't say Madrid is the best European skyline, I only wanted to say Madrid has a skyline like few European cities, and you said that Madrid didn't deserve be in this list, absurd.
Why do you talk about Frankfurt? Don't feel attacked, I know the Frankfurt skyline is better than Madrid skyline (for me the second in Europe after the Parisian).
Yes, Madrid has 4 of the six tallest in EU:
1-Commerzbank Tower. Frankfurt. 259m.
2-Messeturm. Frankfurt. 256m.
3-Torre Caja Madrid. Madrid. 250m.
4-Torre de Cristal. Madrid. 249m.
5-Torre Espacio. Madrid. 236m.
6-Torre Sacyr. Madrid. 236m.
You have to add ten +100m buildings (and a lot of proyects), some of them were the tallest in Western Europe.

Are you sure
Timeline of tallest buildings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Europe)
City of Capitals: Moscow Moscow 2009–present
Naberezhnaya Tower C Moscow 2007–2009
Triumph-Palace Moscow 2005–2007
Commerzbank Tower Frankfurt 1997–2005
Messeturm Frankfurt 1990–1997
Moscow State University Moscow 1953–1990
Kotelnicheskaya Embankment Moscow 1952–1953
Boerentoren Antwerp 1932-1952

I make the most classical choice: Frankfurt, Istanbul, Moscow, London, Paris, Warsaw, in no particular order
I talked about Western Europe, sorry.

Actually no city in EU can compete with Moscow (in terms of height and number of supertalls) which is home of Europe's tallest buildings.
I really quite like it :)


Moscow Business Center (Taken on Oct, 2010)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5081983479_8d8b3ed30a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/one_motion/5081983479/)
[/url] by one motion (http://www.flickr.com/photos/one_motion/5081983479/)

Another one taken on Aug, 2008
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2790976939_970413f234_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfosa/2790976939/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/mfosa/]firdaus omar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfosa/2790976939/)


http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/05.18.11/imbc-1.jpg

20.05.11
http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/05.20.11/imbc-29.jpg

I don't count things like Communication towers, Eiffiel Tower (Cultural type), TV antennae, Churches spires and Chimneys etc. So i thought that tallest one in Warsaw is some kind of like Cultural type that's why i didn't put it in the list and i put The Shard instead because it currently standing at 280m+ which is taller than any other U/C towers in EU. Isn't it fair lol :D i can change my list if you want.


Well it's name is "Palace of Culture and Science"
http://lorenc.home.pl/fioletowy2.jpg

01. Paris
02. Moscow
03. Frankfurt
04. London
05. Rotterdam

06. Warsaw
07. Istanbul
08. Brussels
09. Liverpool
10. Madrid

Some snaps of La Defense, Paris
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/5739259323_f255b2a598_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10583870@N02/5739259323/)
[/url] by julien (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10583870@N02/5739259323/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5739812720_ee45074026_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10583870@N02/5739812720/)
by julien (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10583870@N02/5739812720/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2695/5739232050_ddecfd509e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32553078@N08/5739232050/)
by loic80l (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32553078@N08/5739232050/)




Some snaps of Frankfrut

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2614/5704608415_41042bdfe9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/5705176156_1e266af338_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2764/5704610109_b05c309058_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5081/5725789740_3c068745a5_b.jpg

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoman-jens/5704608415/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoman-jens/5705176156/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoman-jens/5704610109/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacke82/5725789740/sizes/l/in/photostream/

1. Frankfurt
2. Moscow
3. Paris
4. Warsaw
5. Istanbul
6. London
7. Rotterdam
8. Madrid
9. Vienna
10. Milano

To me, a skyline isn't just skyscrapers, its a mixture of old and new architecture. So I rate London, then Paris as my top 2, because out of all of Europe's cities, they have managed to intertwine the old and new beautifully.

Then for the rest;
3. Rotterdam
4. Moscow
5. Warsaw

I really think that Rotterdam's skyline is under-rated. Its in my top 3 easily, but in some 'best of Europe' threads, it barely scrapes the top 10 :ohno:

LONDON
http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/london_01_28/l11_8.jpg
by Jason Hawkes

London
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4869181281_6c1288f5ec_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/4869181281/)
[/url] by david.bank (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/4869181281/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/4990626873_c60c443197_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/4990626873/)
by david.bank (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/4990626873/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4911034051_f3a8ef8c47_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/4911034051/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/david-bank/]david.bank (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/4911034051/)


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5211/5398115282_8902b9c129_b.jpg
by John A King

excellent pics of London :cheers:

old pic of Frankfurt bu still nice

http://i56.tinypic.com/2zs1u9z.jpg

without T185 that tpped out already

http://i53.tinypic.com/20sa7gh.jpg

^^^^
Frankfurt:cheers:

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Frankfurt

Auch hübsch (von der Seite Nextower.com)

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Frankfurt followed by Paris.

My current Top 10 (my ~2009 rating in brackets - standart 10: current NY)

1- Frankfurt 8.64 (8.43) +2.1
2- London 8.46 (8.09) +3.7
3- Paris 8.25 (8.06) +1.9
4- Moscow 8.05 (7.45) +6.0
5- Rotterdam 7.79 (7.57) +2.2
6- Warsaw 7.68 (7.52) +1.6
7- Istanbul 7.58 (7.21) +3.6
8- Madrid 7.23 (7.14) +0.9
9- Benidorm 7.02 (6.89) +1.3
10- The Hague 6.83 (6.53) +3.0
- Liverpool 6.81 (6.73) +0.8

^ ^ ^ ^Too many night pictures in this thread :lol: Clearly posted in order to create a fake illusion of nonexistent continuity in the skylines :lol:

Another con-job: the building height cuttofs used to count the # of highrises. Both the 90m cuttoffs and the 150m cutoffs used in this thread in order to assert the alleged number of skyscrapers in a city are arbitrary and therefore inherently biased. Until there comes a cut-off consensus we should just stick to the "roundest" cuttoff figures and do the countings (i.e. the only legit cutoffs are either 100 meters or 200 or 300... etc) anything other than that is dishonest.

As to the core issue: since everyone has their own criteria to determine the "best skyline" I have mine too: The best skyline is the one that has skyscrapers dominating EVERY part of the city center and possibly even beyond. Skyscrapers must be THE dominant aspect of the city: looming and casting their shadow across ALL corners of the main area of town. None of that "indian reservation" zone of skyscrapers confined and constrained and tucked into some little corner like a red light district (as if scrapers are perverted and something to be ashamed of) shoved away from the "real" heart of town where everyone hangs out, like a shopping mall playground where children and animals are "dropped" before commencing the real activity of shopping.

So based on this superior philosophy of the best skyline being the free-est and the most CONTINUOUS one, the overwhelming winners are:

1, Benidorm :)
2, Rotterdam

The rest of Europe is not even close, not even anywhere near these two REAL scraper-cities!

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm66/mcbl/BC/29.jpg


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-BKdOEuV088/TdmF4om4zyI/AAAAAAAADTE/41okjgnBJPk/s1500/rotterdam.jpg

what do you want to say ? Benidorm got a better skyline than Frankfurt ? LOL

^ ^ ^ ^Too many night pictures in this thread :lol: Clearly posted in order to create a fake illusion of nonexistent continuity in the skylines :lol:

Another con-job: the building height cuttofs used to count the # of highrises. Both the 90m cuttoffs and the 150m cutoffs used in this thread in order to assert the alleged number of skyscrapers in a city are arbitrary and therefore inherently biased. Until there comes a cut-off consensus we should just stick to the "roundest" cuttoff figures and do the countings (i.e. the only legit cutoffs are either 100 meters or 200 or 300... etc) anything other than that is dishonest.

As to the core issue: since everyone has their own criteria to determine the "best skyline" I have mine too: The best skyline is the one that has skyscrapers dominating EVERY part of the city center and possibly even beyond. Skyscrapers must be THE dominant aspect of the city: looming and casting their shadow across ALL corners of the main area of town. None of that "indian reservation" zone of skyscrapers confined and constrained and tucked into some little corner like a red light district (as if scrapers are perverted and something to be ashamed of) shoved away from the "real" heart of town where everyone hangs out, like a shopping mall playground where children and animals are "dropped" before commencing the real activity of shopping.

So based on this superior philosophy of the best skyline being the free-est and the most CONTINUOUS one, the overwhelming winners are:

1, Benidorm :)
2, Rotterdam

The rest of Europe is not even close, not even anywhere near these two REAL scraper-cities!




^^I think the first picture is Balneario Camboriu in Brazil, and I agree with your opinion, but maybe we could say one thing is the best "skyline" (just how the city looks from far), or wich one is the most "skyscraper-city", for me, the last one are the most impressive as a skyscraper fan, because you feel there could be new tall projects anywhere in the city, and you can easily live in a tall building, as example, I'm planning to do a 2 day trip to Benidorm, I'm looking for a cheap hotel and well located, and the best option is in a 25 floor building, how many chances do you have to stay in such a tall building in other cities in Europe? also, there are two forumers from Benidorm, one lives in a 43 floor building, and the other one in a 23 floor building. I love Benidorm and Rotterdam for that, but also London is building towers everywhere in the city, not like Madrid, wich 4 towers are far from the city center.
This is a real picture of Benidorm, not that one from Brazil:
http://i55.tinypic.com/8y6yyb.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2ekokeg.jpg

^ I am really fall in love with 2nd picture, Victhor. Benidorm's density is just so incredible especially for a European city :)

what do you want to say ? Benidorm got a better skyline than Frankfurt ? LOL

Its his own opinion, let him have it.

Benidorm does have a bigger and denser skyline than Frankfurt, but Frankfurt does have better quality skyscrapers, for me anyway.

a pic tells more than a thousand words
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^ Great shot, i like the colour and composition as well, the train front of the skyline makes a better picture. It reminds me of Toronto in some ways :)

At the moment i am really looking forward to seeing more amazing shots from Moscow :)

rotterdam
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1, Benidorm :)
2, Rotterdam

The rest of Europe is not even close, not even anywhere near these two REAL scraper-cities!



Benidrom looks like some neighborhood on outskirts of Moscow :)

^ Can you show a pic of one of those? Despite the fact that Moscow's main cluster looks far more impressive than Benidorm's skyline IMO, which outskirts of Moscow would that be with a density and size similar to Benidorm?

I know there are a lot of very tall residential buildings in Moscow, but I think they are spred on a very large area, in Benidorm they are all together in a small area, also have in mind that you are comparing a city with a population over 10 millions with another one under 100 thousand, that's less than 1% the population of Moscow.
By the way, I have seen in this thread some figures of number of skyscrapers over xxx metres per city, but there are no figures for Moscow, it should be on top of those rankings.

By the way, I have seen in this thread some figures of number of skyscrapers over xxx metres per city, but there are no figures for Moscow, it should be on top of those rankings.Here you can count the number of buildings over xxx metres. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=50900898

Cities with 100m+ buildings (According to that SSP diagrams)

Moscow 82
London 55
Frankfurt 36
Paris 27
Rotterndam 25
Benidorm 13

New York 475 :nuts:

Moscow
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Cities with 100m+ buildings (According to that SSP diagrams)

Moscow 82
London 55
Frankfurt 36
Paris 27
Rotterndam 25
Benidorm 13

New York 475 :nuts:

and HK ?

According to this post http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=73177129&postcount=75 in Moscow 152 T/O 100m+ buildings

Cities with 100m+ buildings (According to that SSP diagrams)

Moscow 82
London 55
Frankfurt 36
Paris 27
Rotterndam 25
Benidorm 13

New York 475 :nuts:
That web is missing some Benidorm buildings height, there are 25 completed buildings over 100 metres, an another one under construction that will be 200 metres tall. Here you have them all: http://www.disseny.benidorm.org/images/stories/rascacielos.jpg
And Villajoyosa, the little neighbour town that shares some streets with Benidorm (like Paris and Courbevoie) has 4 buildings over 100 metres, that sums up 30 buildings over 100 metres, in a place with a population of 100,000, if London (with pop: 7,5m) had the same high-rise density than Benidorm, it would have 2250 buildings over 100 metres :lol:

^^ I don't know sir, that static data made by SSP is only based on their diagrams and they are not reliable as well. I realised it when i counted the total number of 100m+ highrises in Hong Kong. So just ignore that list.


Rotterdam at night by Ni3lS
From last night, may 25th:

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ROTTERDAM: MY CITY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nielskristianphotography/5759978340/) by NielsKristianPhotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/nielskristianphotography/), on Flickr

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Rotterdam Night Lights (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nielskristianphotography/5759981896/) by NielsKristianPhotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/nielskristianphotography/), on Flickr

Stunning pics :applause:

^^ I don't know sir, that static data made by SSP is only based on their diagrams and they are not reliable as well. I realised it when i counted the total number of 100m+ highrises in Hong Kong. So just ignore that list.


There's a better one from CTBUH. As you can see, Moscow, Istanbul, and Paris are the only European cities to make the Global top 50. This is the top 50 ranked by 'Combined Heights' which is the height in metres of all buildings over 100 m added together.

City: # of buildings 100 metres or more---Combined Heights in metres

01. Hong Kong: 2,354---333,836
02. New York: 794---109,720
03. Tokyo: 556---73,008
04. Dubai: 403---66,248
05. Shanghai: 430---59,958

06. Bangkok: 355---48,737
07. Chicago: 341---48,441
08. Ghuangzhou: 295---42,865
09. Seoul: 282---39,308
10. Kuala Lumpur: 244---34,035

11. Singapore: 238---33,735
12. Shenzhen: 235---33,435
13. Chongqing: 226---31,475
14. Toronto: 216---27,867
15. Panama City: 185---27,478

16. Manila: 186---26,307
17. Jakarta: 170---23,674
18. Sao Paulo: 194---22,794
19. Osaka: 172---22,754
20. Beijing: 172---22,192

21. Macau: 131---19,597
22. Moscow: 132---18,504
23. Tianjin: 131---18,259
24. Nanjing: 110---16,784
25. Mumbai: 118---16,331

26. Miami: 137---18,385
27. Buenos Aires: 122---15,254
28. Sydney: 102---13,933
29. Mexico City: 114---13,862
30. Dalian: 93---12,803

31. Houston: 86---12,614
32. Doha: 78---12,254
33. Istanbul: 90---11,897
34. Honolulu: 104---11,855
35. San Francisco: 88---11,582

36. Wuhan: 79---11,236
37. Busan: 64---10,556
38. Shenyang: 76---10,479
39. Atlanta: 73---10,471
40. Chengdu: 81---10,453

41. Los Angeles: 70---10,062
42. Melbourne: 69---9,868
43. Paris: 78---9,558
44. Qingdao: 68---9,404
45. Rio de Janeiro: 73: 8,867

46. Xiamen: 66---8,584
47. Hangzhou: 62---8,463
48. Las Vegas: 59: 8,241
49. Dallas: 53---7,879
50. Tel Aviv: 59---7,679


Maroon: Cities in Asia (28)
Navy: Cities in America (16)
Green: Cities in the Rest of the World (6)

http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2xRxAalkjoA%3d&tabid=1006&language=en-GB

^^I think the first picture is Balneario Camboriu in Brazil,Oops!!! :nuts:

Thanks for the heads up and the correction.

and I agree with your opinion, but maybe we could say one thing is the best "skyline" (just how the city looks from far), or wich one is the most "skyscraper-city", for me, the last one are the most impressive as a skyscraper fan, because you feel there could be new tall projects anywhere in the city, and you can easily live in a tall building, as example, I'm planning to do a 2 day trip to Benidorm, I'm looking for a cheap hotel and well located, and the best option is in a 25 floor building, how many chances do you have to stay in such a tall building in other cities in Europe? Next to zero % chance

You need spend a fortune to stay at the handful of skyscraper hotels in Europe outside Benidorm. They charge premium for the very fact that they are high rise. For example until recently the most expensive hotel in Amsterdam was the Japanese 'Hotel Okura' which coincidentally was also one of only TWO skyscrapers (20+ story buildings) in Amsterdam until recently (until the boom of the 1990s-2000s).

Too many night pictures in this thread Clearly posted in order to create a fake illusion of nonexistent continuity in the skylines

?

http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/03/13/110313024735828315.jpg

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?By that quote I meant that night-light tends to mesh up the building edges and makes distinguishing the low rise from the high rise difficult. It doesn't mean I don't like night skyline, I love it. But in order to increase the objectivity it is good not to forget the day-pics too. That's all I'm saying.

a pic tells more than a thousand words
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Prettier, but definitely not denser.

Some shots around La Defense, Paris
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Very nice. But for some reason, I can't help but prefer the Canary Wharf skyline.

Are you sure
Timeline of tallest buildings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Europe)
City of Capitals: Moscow Moscow 2009–present
Naberezhnaya Tower C Moscow 2007–2009
Triumph-Palace Moscow 2005–2007
Commerzbank Tower Frankfurt 1997–2005
Messeturm Frankfurt 1990–1997
Moscow State University Moscow 1953–1990
Kotelnicheskaya Embankment Moscow 1952–1953
Boerentoren Antwerp 1932-1952

I make the most classical choice: Frankfurt, Istanbul, Moscow, London, Paris, Warsaw, in no particular order

Antwerp had the first skyscraper. Still the prettiest of Europe :)

http://www.op-reis.com/albums/antwerpen/fotos/antwerpen-boerentoren1.jpg

Antwerp had the first skyscraper. Still the prettiest of Europe :)

http://www.op-reis.com/albums/antwerpen/fotos/antwerpen-boerentoren1.jpg
All the buildings that have ever been the tallest in Europe are called "the first skysraper in Europe", that's because there's no limit for a building to be called skyscraper, Madrid's Telefonica building is also called like that, because it was the tallest european building until that building in Antwerp was completed (1926 to 1932 I think), and before Telefonica building there were other "first european skyscrapers"

All the buildings that have ever been the tallest in Europe are called "the first skysraper in Europe", that's because there's no limit for a building to be called skyscraper, Madrid's Telefonica building is also called like that, because it was the tallest european building until that building in Antwerp was completed (1926 to 1932 I think), and before Telefonica building there were other "first european skyscrapers"

That building in Antwerp is wildly accepted as the first skyscraper in Europe. The building in Madrid is no skyscraper to me. It is a big building wit a small tower on top of it.
Like you say, there is no definition, but everybody can judge for them-self.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/TelefonicaMadrid.jpg/398px-TelefonicaMadrid.jpg

Well there are some criteria used to determine whether a building was a skyscraper such as steel truss and/or incorporation of elevator, etc.

Very nice. But for some reason, I can't help but prefer the Canary Wharf skyline.

Maybe because Canary Wharf is very Canadian in its appearance and design. It was inspired by Toronto.

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Canary Wharf looks so fetching!

London is sure the best skyline in europe though its skyscrapers are not so tall

Well there are some criteria used to determine whether a building was a skyscraper such as steel truss and/or incorporation of elevator, etc.Exactly!

Highrise buildings have a specific structure and development history. You can't just say any tall structure like for example those medieval/gothic church towers in Europe (some of them are really tall) can be counted as real "highrise buildings" because they are all classic buildings: it is their walls that carry the weight of the upstairs weight, whereas in a real modern highrise building the upper floors are carried by things that don't exist inside classic/normal/small buildings: core columns that continuously go from the basement up to the roof.

^ The main supporting elements in medieval churches are core colums that go from ground to top.

http://faculty.evansville.edu/rl29/art105/img/gothic_intamiens.gif

Canary Wharf looks so fetching!

London is sure the best skyline in europe though its skyscrapers are not so tall

Current tallest skyscraper in Canary Wharf is taller than any skyscraper in Paris, Warsaw, Benidorm, Berlin or any other EU cities except the tallest ones in Frankfurt and Madrid. However, European Union or probably Europe's tallest building is U/C in London, so i don't know why you said that perhaps you are comparing it to Dubai? If so, i completely agree with you :lol:

Moscow, Istanbul, Madrid, and Frankfurt all have taller completed buildings than London; that's probably why he said it.

Moscow, Istanbul, Madrid, and Frankfurt all have taller completed buildings than London; that's probably why he said it.

Thank you. In comparison to many cities worldwide or even several cities in europe, London's skyscrapers generally are not so competitive in terms of height. The Shard, which is still under construction, is the only building in London to surpass the height of 300m. So, yeah that was pretty much what I meant when I said it.

Enough to enter top 5 ı guess
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Enough to enter top 5 ı guess

Is this Istanbul?

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Warsaw

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London(overall) and Frankfurt are in one league above the rest, by now.
Warsaw is cathing up.

Paris needs the Tour Phare (not the fugly heritages) to play are role in the higher league, again. It's totally overrated and looks, If someone with a chainsaw cuted the scrapers all to same height and the Society generale buildings are a perfect skyline-destroyer.

My List.
Frankfurt + London
...
Warsaw
...
...
...
Paris, Moscow
...
Rotterdam
Istanbul, Madrid

Moscow Business Center
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Moscow and Istanbul are flying under the radar. Either of them could be #1 in Europe by 2020. Their skylines are growing very quickly.

^^ Honestly - I am so fed up with those declarations lilke: But in 2030 XXXX will be much better than XXXY.
Yeah-But in 2214 XXYY will better than XXXX and XXXY combiend.

Let's have a look on all cities in 2020 again, and then we can rate, who is numer 1 in 2020. Not now.

Moscow Business Center
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wow, very sci-fi

1. Frankfurt
2. Paris
3. Rotterdam
4. Warsaw
5. Moscow

And then there's the rest.

Brussels surely deserves a place in the top 10 as well (17 skyscrapers of +100m), although it lacks some more iconic buildings.

http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/566/846/20090228/dyn010_original_750_502_pjpeg_2566846_b9209e5f7bbb2721278d55672bf7e700.jpg

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1. Frankfurt
2. Paris
3. Rotterdam
4. Warsaw
5. Moscow

And then there's the rest.

Brussels surely deserves a place in the top 10 as well (17 skyscrapers of +100m), although it lacks some more iconic buildings.


Bold

I really like the highrises in brussels but this city needs higher buildings !

^^ I know. The highest currently under construction is 143 m. For some reason, they seem afraid to go over the 150m line :bash:

Bold

What do you mean??

^^ I know. The highest currently under construction is 143 m. For some reason, they seem afraid to go over the 150m line :bash:



What do you mean??

He means that you have to be bold ( or, in laymans terms, to have balls ) to put Rotterdam and Warszaw behind Paris, which has pretty boring skyline, with no iconic skyscraper in La Defence.
It's also very arguable whether Rotterdam should rate higher than Warszaw, which probably has the fastest growing skyline in EU and the fantastic Palace of Culture as opposed to no tall historic buildings in Rotterdam.
Thirdly, to mention Brussels ( with no skyscrapers over 150m and no iconic skyscrapers whatsoever and leave out London with its 2 clusters ( Canary Wharf and the City ) and numerous landmark skyscrapers shows biasnes that borders on idiotic. And I mean that in a very caring way.

He means that you have to be bold ( or, in laymans terms, to have balls ) to put Rotterdam and Warszaw behind Paris, which has pretty boring skyline, with no iconic skyscraper in La Defence. It's also very arguable whether Rotterdam should rate higher than Warszaw, which probably has the fastest growing skyline in EU and the fantastic Palace of Culture as opposed to no tall historic buildings in Rotterdam.

I completely disagree. Paris has way nicer skyscrapers than both Rotterdam and Warszaw, and it's skyline is very nicely composed and dense. Furthermore, Rotterdam beats Warszaw, since the latter is a collection of rather dull and oldfashioned buildings, with the exception of the Palace of Culture, whereas Rotterdam's new scrapers are modern and elegant. also, the Palace of Culture isn't a skyscraper, so I don't really take it into account. Otherwise you could count every cathedral as well.

Thirdly, to mention Brussels ( with no skyscrapers over 150m and no iconic skyscrapers whatsoever and leave out London with its 2 clusters ( Canary Wharf and the City ) and numerous landmark skyscrapers shows biasnes that borders on idiotic. And I mean that in a very caring way.

What an idiotic remark. London is in my top 10, just like Brussels, and higher as well. I only listed my top 5. If the two clusters were in the same area, it would be in the top 3, but now it's two very small, very unimpressive areas. And the Dexia tower is as iconic as any in Rotterdam or Warszaw (unfortunately it's 50m too low)...

I don't think people really give the appropriate praise to London.

Their high-rises are very asthetic and tall to boot for Europe.

Plus it's skyline is growing very rapidly.

London gets the praise it deserves. It's skyline is good for Europe, but not one of the big skylines in the world. Currently, I wouldn't put London in my top 30. It will get a lot better over the next 10 years, so it's one to watch.

Europe's Best Skyline: BENIDORM

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BENIDORM

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BENIDORM

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lets have a party for europes No.1 skyline Benidorm ! :cheer::scouserd:

Furthermore, Rotterdam beats Warszaw, since the latter is a collection of rather dull and oldfashioned buildings, with the exception of the Palace of Culture, whereas Rotterdam's new scrapers are modern and elegant.
I agree that modern architecture in Rotterdam and the Netherlands in genaral is among the best in the world but it's skyline doesn't impress me that much too spread out and it lacks something really impressive like Pkin. It's true that Warsaw have some bad aplles from the '90 but they don't dominate the skyline and the new stuff is at least ok.

also, the Palace of Culture isn't a skyscraper, so I don't really take it into account. Otherwise you could count every cathedral as well.

What do you mean? Does a high building have to look modern to be considered a skyscraper by you :dunno:

Actually...as ugly and low quality as it might be...I think Benidorm takes the cake as Europe's most impressing highrise/skyscraper skyline. By far!
It's unfair to not count it, just because it isn't a great city like London, Paris...

F r a n k f u r t

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Actually...as ugly and low quality as it might be...I think Benidorm takes the cake as Europe's most impressing highrise/skyscraper skyline. By far!
It's unfair to not count it, just because it isn't a great city like London, Paris...

true! this is europe's most underrated, and often, overlooked skyline...

for me, europe's best skyline:
1. Benidorm
2. Frankfurt
3. Paris
4. London
5. Moscow

#2, #3 and #4 however could change places depending on which angle the skyline is seen! but generally, they in that order, in my opinion.

can`t you really see the difference in design between the highrises in Benidorm
and the skyscrapers in Frankfurt ? for one of the skyscraper in Frankfurt you can
build a dozen of the cheap highrises in Benidorm. the beauty of a skyline is caused
by the classiness of its buildings. same with Sao Paulo and New York. it is a
different leaque.

frankfurt's buildings are nice individually, so are buildings in london, paris and moscow, but we are talking about skyline, not individual buildings... skyline is actually best gauged in photos like the one below where architecture is "eliminated" and skyline is emphasized:

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on the other hand, i have to say that i'm really impressed with franfurt's skyline too... and moscow is very promising!:cheers:

Moscow International Business Center
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La Defense, Paris
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Brilliant distance-shot of Frankfurt skyline

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European skylines are a joke. If any, maybe Moscow could "take the cake" in the future.

European skylines are a joke. If any, maybe Moscow could "take the cake" in the future.

LOL!!! i highly recommend you to check out other European skylines too... Be prepare not to be shocked!!! :lol:

La Défense, Paris. It's the most beautiful skyline in Europe for me:

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European skylines are a joke. If any, maybe Moscow could "take the cake" in the future.Wrong.

You kinda forgot that skyline means skyline, not skyscraper.

So in that sense Europe is actually pretty impressive, and cities like Paris and Frankfurt... etc DO have magnificent skyline since the word skyline means everything that is lined up under the horizon (not just the tall buildings but also the other structures like old church towers and belforts and rivers and the sea and the mountain backdrop... everything!

Of course Paris is a beautiful city and that's it but Moscow is booming and all the Europe's supertalls are being built there. It has a lot of potential and its future projects are also very promising. Frankfurt skyline is great one of the best in Europe but it is kind of a dead-skyline unlike Istanbul, London, Moscow. Paris also has supertall projects and i hope that dream will come true.

Moscow.

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Of course Paris is a beautiful city and that's it but Moscow is booming and all the Europe's supertalls are being built there. It has a lot of potential and its future projects are also very promising. Frankfurt skyline is great one of the best in Europe but it is kind of a dead-skyline unlike Istanbul, London, Moscow. Paris also has supertall projects and i hope that dream will come true.

Frankfurts skyline is not dead :nuts:, it is expanding slowly but surely,
also all buildings get renovation or recladding regularly. next year the
taunusturm will rise in the main cluster :cheers:

next year the taunusturm will rise in the main cluster :cheers:

I can't wait :hug:

Here is a poor snap of Madrid skyline, taken an hour ago :yes:

http://i.imgur.com/FOteW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Mlz3y.jpg

Frankfurts skyline is not dead :nuts:, it is expanding slowly but surely,
also all buildings get renovation or recladding regularly. next year the
taunusturm will rise in the main cluster :cheers:
Link to a thread about that tower?

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Are you guys being serious?
Frankfurt is one of the European cities with most tall towers coming up currently.

A few examples >150m height:

- Urban Entertainment Center (UEC) including:
Skyline Plaza Tower (212m, App), another office tower (160m, App) and Skyline Plaza Shopping center (U/C)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=480449&page=9

- Tower 185 (200m, T/O)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505636&page=53

- European Central Bank Twin Towers (185m each, U/C)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=185988&page=20

- Taunusturm (170m, U/C)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=521026&page=14

Not to speak of several other towers >100m to be u/c soon and completely excluding the proposed Tower 365 (350m).

In the last two years a 200m tower, a 170m tower, a 135m and a 100m tower were built in Frankfurt. Right now under construction is a 185m tower and another 170m tower...yeah, sounds really like a dead skyline to me...

SO143 is just ignorant about Frankfurt...

I wouldn't call Frankfurt dead, but it's not exactly a hive of construction either. Frankfurt looks fabulous is some shots, and surprisingly sparse in others.

the thing about european skylines is that they all lack density that's why they look great in some vantage points and not on others... and oh, we do not gauge a skyline by the number of proposed buildings in it, i mean, like, 50 proposed supertalls in madrid doesn't make it any better than frankfurt, london or moscow at its current state!

for now, i believe it's a battle between benidorm, frankfurt, london, paris and moscow...

I'm sure I'll take some flak for this, but as an outside, objective viewer, having seen dozens of photos of Moscow, London, La Defense, Frankfurt, Rotterdam, etc, I have to mention a city that has yet to be brought up in this thread. My favorite European skyline is . . .



Monaco. It's a beautiful, warm blend of nature and man. You can feel the Mediterranean climate just looking at its skyline (or, rather, two lines: the line of the condos in front of the mountains) from the marina. I think it's one of the most fantastic looking places on Earth.

^^^^
although skyline-wise i'd say monaco is down in my list, i agree with your general concept of its beauty!:cheers:

well, personally, i'd rather have european cities like london and paris not build too big a skyline to preserve their old-world charm! they could be new and modern inside, but i like them to stay "old outside".

In the last two years a 200m tower, a 170m tower, a 135m and a 100m tower were built in Frankfurt.

I can't believe you even mentioned 100m building lol

Istanbul has 71 and Paris has about 76 buildings that are 100m+ if i also would like to state that

Right now under construction is a 185m tower and another 170m tower...yeah, sounds really like a dead skyline to me...

Only 2? Right, London currently has 11 quality skyscrapers U/C including one EU tallest tower and another 45 skyscrapers are approved and these constructions will start by 2012-2013 plus there are 25 towers that are proposed. On the other hand, 35 buildings are U/C in Istanbul. And we all know that no EU cities can compete with Moscow in terms of the number of supertalls and height. So you better not boast about 100m highrise :lol:

SO143 is just ignorant about Frankfurt...

Never ever insult at any SSC member young man and you better stay focus on the discussion about skyline/skyscrapers. I made a proper research before i created this thread and i know which city has incredible potential to dominate Europe's best skyline in the future. Saying this city's skyline is the most beautiful that city's skyline is bla bla is just a matter of personal taste and it can be understandable as well. Any personal opinions about skyline are welcomed too except personal insult. Have fun ok

Rotterdam skyline at distance from the city of The Hague

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The Frankfurt skyscraper development has a major advantage though compared to that of those full-bodied other ones: the towers are actually really getting built (in time) and don't show up like 20 years later or become "on hold" and stuff like that as it seems to be with many of those megalomanic Dubai-copying cities...
S.th. like 2 new tall towers a year isn't bad for a European city, at least better than 60 "approved" towers that don't get built at all (or in a period of 30 years = 2 a year). It's always very speculative to talk about the future, though. In recent times (2009-today) the following number of buildings >100m has been built (or at least become T/O; with the exception of the Shard in London which I counted here although it is not finished or T/O yet):
Moscow 11
London 5 (4 without the Shard)
Frankfurt 4
Rotterdam 3
Paris 1
Warsaw (none)

^ Yeah from 2009 - today

List of newest buildings by date


Moscow - 8 (without Mercury and Federation Supertall Towers)
http://i.imgur.com/go2uO.png


London - 6 (without the Shard, Orbit Tower, St George Wharf tower, and The Heron)
http://i.imgur.com/mDJLS.png


Frankfurt - 2
http://i.imgur.com/KNhbr.png


Paris - 1
http://i.imgur.com/u510i.png

^ That list is incomplete or too old. Where are Tower 185 (200m; T/O) and Jumeirah Frankfurt (100m)? For Moscow I also miss some buildings.

London - 6 (without the Shard, Orbit Tower, St George Wharf tower, and The Heron)

Ok, but the Heron is listed there and St George Wharf tower is far from being T/O, isn't it?

I've got the infos from here:
http://skyscraperpage.com/

But I think it is incomplete too since it doesn't include the "Royal Londen Hospital Tower 2" (nice building actually!) as well as that "Pioneer Point North, Ilford". Thanks for the info :okay:

Complete list >100m for Moscow 2009/now

Name ..........Height........Year(T/O)
CoC Moscow ...301.59........2009
CoC SPb..........256.9.........2009
Imperia Tower...239...........2010
MosFilm tower..213.3.........2010
Continental.......174...........2009
MiraxPlaza........167...........2009
Дыбенко 38......142...........2010
Villange............138...........2010
Amber city........130...........2010
Birjuzova 41......116...........2010
Sky Fort(3 blocks)....109......2010
Elk Island(4 blocks)...108.5...2010
Wellton Park 9......107........2010
Zodiac............106.8..........2010
Preo8.............106.............2010
Well House......106............2010
Izmailovsky 3,4..103..........2010
O2XYGEN........103............2009
Akademdom......101...........2009

Total: 25 :)

20

20

Sky Fort( block 204, 205, 206)....109......2010 3 buildings
Elk Island( block 1, 2, 3, 4)...108.5...2010 4 buildings
:)

o.k. :cheers:

SO143 is just ignorant about Frankfurt...

When you follow the rate-our-skylines-threads you can see
he is not ignorant. It's a bit unfair to say that. He uses other criterias for his ratings.

Of course he knows, that Frankfut is not "dead". I understood from the first reading, he compares this kind of status with London and Moscow, and everybody has to admit, that both cities have currently more projects running than Frankfurt.
But this don't make them a better skyline than Frankfurt. London is closing a gap and will share the status of number 1 in Europe with Frankfurt - Both by far ahead of other cities. And they will share this status for long time in future. Because I don't think London can keep up that boom and will slow down on Frankfurts project-level (wich is noct dead, or slow by the way)
Moscow is building, as if there is no tomorrow. Projects are ugly, don't fit toghether neither fit in the city. It's ugly for me.
Paris lost contact to the top. They are talking for ages about big projects and nothing happens. I already lost hope to see europes best and most interesting project (tour phare) rising. And when they will start at least, the gap is too big

When you follow the rate-our-skylines-threads you can see
he is not ignorant. It's a bit unfair to say that. He uses other criterias for his ratings.

Of course he knows, that Frankfut is not "dead". I understood from the first reading, he compares this kind of status with London and Moscow, and everybody has to admit, that both cities have currently more projects running than Frankfurt.
But this don't make them a better skyline than Frankfurt. London is closing a gap and will share the status of number 1 in Europe with Frankfurt - Both by far ahead of other cities. And they will share this status for long time in future. Because I don't think London can keep up that boom and will slow down on Frankfurts project-level (wich is noct dead, or slow by the way)
Moscow is building, as if there is no tomorrow. Projects are ugly, don't fit toghether neither fit in the city. It's ugly for me.
Paris lost contact to the top. They are talking for ages about big projects and nothing happens. I already lost hope to see europes best and most interesting project (tour phare) rising. And when they will start at least, the gap is too big

I was calling him ignorant, because I was judging him on a number of other encounters I had with him here on SSC. ;)

I do agree that Frankfurt developes much slower right now than London or Moscow. And though I do believe Frankfurt has the best quality skyscrapers in Europe, it's skyline isn't the best or the most impressing to me too.
I really think Benidorm takes the cake, even though it's kinda ugly und cheap. XD

i'd always have benidorm-biased list for europe's best skyline. but as ugly as its buildings are doesn't really matter much when i look at the skyline as a whole. for quality-skyscrapers, of course it'll be a fight between frankfurt, london and paris. that's looking at it at present.. although some cities holds a bright future for their skyline, this isn't the right time to count them in.. not until their proposals get actually built.

Benidorm

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I was calling him ignorant, because I was judging him on a number of other encounters I had with him here on SSC. ;)

Everyone has different opinion and taste. Don't you even understand this kind of basic knowledge you dumb@ss. I wouldn't call other people ignorant because of their idea and expression is different to mine. You may participate in this skyline discussion thread as long as you don't bash any SSC member. However, if you like to seek flame war and insult other people's opinions, you should GTFO of this thread mate. Trolling is not welcomed here.

Everyone has different opinion and taste. Don't you even understand this kind of basic knowledge you dumb@ss. I wouldn't call other people ignorant because of their idea and expression is different to mine. You may participate in this skyline discussion thread as long as you don't bash any SSC member. However, if you like to seek flame war and insult other people's opinions, you should GTFO of this thread mate. Trolling is not welcomed here.

Says the troll using foul language...

:chill:

^ +1



L o n d o n

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for me its easy:

1. Moscow
- gap -
2. London
- gap -
3. Frankfurt
4. Paris
- gap -
5. Madrid

only Paris and Frankfurt may change the position soon, the others are very far apart for me

edit: also istanbul is on the rise and has a good skyline, in a few years it might rank up for me a lot

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/3860027864_0e28e03462_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/3860027864/)
London Westminster (http://www.flickr.com/photos/david-bank/3860027864/) by david.bank (www.david-bank.com) (http://www.flickr.com/people/david-bank/), on Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/5829994702_05acfe9974_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/daz71/5829994702/)
The City Of London (http://www.flickr.com/photos/daz71/5829994702/) by Daz71 (http://www.flickr.com/people/daz71/), on Flickr

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/4959521654_b7b7ac7b44_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/manuel69/4959521654/)
London skyline Chelsea (http://www.flickr.com/photos/manuel69/4959521654/) by Manuel.A.69 (http://www.flickr.com/people/manuel69/), on Flickr

London FTW :cheers:

for me Frankfurt got still the best cluster in europe. commerzbanktower, maintower,
silver tower, eurotower, trianon, skyper, galileo, deutsche bank towers and soon the
taunustower form a beautiful cluster around a park.
second place goes to Moscow. the IBC is coming along nicely and could overtake
Frankfurts crown in europe in a few years.
third is Paris, fourth London, then Istanbul, Warsaw, Vienna, Rotterdam, Milano...

I can't believe you even mentioned 100m building lol

Istanbul has 71 and Paris has about 76 buildings that are 100m+ if i also would like to state that


Well, in Frankfurt those 100m towers are actually built right in the city centre and not in some suburban commieblock area. For a skyline, a few 100 or even 60 or 70m towers are much more valuable than 50 commieblocks of 100m height somewhere in the suburbs.

Well, in Frankfurt those 100m towers are actually built right in the city centre and not in some suburban commieblock area. For a skyline, a few 100 or even 60 or 70m towers are much more valuable than 50 commieblocks of 100m height somewhere in the suburbs.

You are quite right about Frankfurt mate, in fact these cities are completely different in terms of cityscape and planning. The highrises in London are (randomly) built in any part of the city. I think it is just because of the differnce between big city and small city though. Perhaps London is aiming or trying to become a massive city with multiple clusters and skyscrapers all over the city. Frankfrut looks like LA in terms of city planning IMO, a city with only one cluster in the central area. At the moment i am more into the projects in Moscow :) that's because i prefer supertalls and quality.

Here is a pic of London i found, quite old though as you can see only a shorty Shard
http://i.imgur.com/fEvuq.jpg
Souce:unknown found on Google Image

The Pinnacle will be such a fantastic addition for The City skyline
OOC8ChUv3-U

Madrid
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/5829374072_569719d22d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alsanz/5829374072/)
[/url] by alsanz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alsanz/5829374072/)

Moscow
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5145/5790874163_fb2c42371a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/2nd_floor/5790874163/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/2nd_floor/5790874163/) by 2nd_floor (http://www.flickr.com/people/2nd_floor/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/5719723656_d90134b8a0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ylaleila/5719723656/)
by ~Ylaleila~ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ylaleila/5719723656/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2581/5824245623_bd11b32d37_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andybeirne/5824245623/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/andybeirne/]DirectPositive (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andybeirne/5824245623/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/5835969504_6583cdc573_b.jpghttp://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=79875012&postcount=5976

I'd say London because I find that the city is the best cluster, quality of skyscrapers, beauty of them and position, and Canary Wharf is wonderful too. Moscow comes at the second place and in third Francfort/Paris.

Kyiv, Ukraine

http://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/1837/02/18370260.jpg

http://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/1837/04/18370412.jpg

http://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/1837/02/18370257.jpg

http://g.io.ua/img_aa/large/1837/04/18370413.jpg

http://general-kosmosa.livejournal.com/


Frankfrut
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/5811181939_70743c7d3c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/camera_alex/5811181939/)
[/url] by alexknip (http://www.flickr.com/photos/camera_alex/5811181939/)


Warsaw
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5103/5604024132_c478fa26c8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liwnik/5604024132/)
by Liwnik (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liwnik/5604024132/)


Rotterdam
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2659/5820788589_257fef37b4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ruzym_photography/5820788589/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/ruzym_photography/]Ruzym K | Photographie. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ruzym_photography/5820788589/)

Barcelona, Spain
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5835499895_d28dd1186c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/llondru/5835499895/)
Barcelona (http://www.flickr.com/photos/llondru/5835499895/) by llondru (http://www.flickr.com/people/llondru/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2675/5841970835_60022d91f5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmarti/5841970835/)
[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/nmarti/]nmarti (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmarti/5841970835/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2208/5736465613_f714b06997_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47334076@N04/5736465613/)
Barcelona (http://www.flickr.com/photos/47334076@N04/5736465613/) by cpcmollet (http://www.flickr.com/people/47334076@N04/)

Cities with 100m+ buildings (According to that SSP diagrams)

Moscow 82
London 55
Frankfurt 36
Paris 27
Rotterndam 25
Benidorm 13

New York 475 :nuts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Istanbul

Istanbul 71

1.Paris
2.Moscow
3.Frankfurt

According to SSP Paris has 71 tower 100 + not 27 :ohno:
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?

Paris and Frankfurt for me. Also love London, Rotterdam, Moscow, Istanbul, Warsaw and co.

Think London should take the mantle within the next decade. It's all stations go there.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/5839426731_e1ab20f24d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/5839976842_7505b44676_b.jpg

^^ As i said before these cities are different. As far as i have realised Frankfurt has the best looking (one) cluster in the centre of the city, whereas London has many towers all over the city. Besides, it doesn't really have such a thing called "cluster" though, as the matter of fact London skyline is quite huge and massive as you can see it's skyline from one side of the city to another end of the city and it's still expanding like theres no tomorrow :ohno:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/5846683574_30336a1243_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/simon_bolton_uk/5846683574/)
[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/simon_bolton_uk/]Simon UK (http://www.flickr.com/photos/simon_bolton_uk/5846683574/)

I think it's a little sad though, that London is spoiling it's historical skyline with so many massive skyscrapers. St. Pauls Cathedral and the Parliament now look so tiny and insignificant in comparison. (Paris is doing a good job keeping skyscrapers out of the center and in Frankfurt there actually isn't much to spoil...)
I'll be in London at the end of the week to see for myself how much has changed. It's been 17 years since I last visited the city...

I think it's a little sad though, that London is spoiling it's historical skyline with so many massive skyscrapers. St. Pauls Cathedral and the Parliament now look so tiny and insignificant in comparison. (Paris is doing a good job keeping skyscrapers out of the center and in Frankfurt there actually isn't much to spoil...)
I'll be in London at the end of the week to see for myself how much has changed. It's been 17 years since I last visited the city...

Well, London's historical skyline from Victorian era consisted of St. Paul's, Big Ben and a number of church spires, all of them rather short.
Apart from the Eiffel tower, all the tall buildings in European cities built before the age of skyscrapers were cathedrals. So the "historic" skyline of London would be pretty boring, especially since the city is huge. The reason why London has skyscrapers in the old historical centre and the Paris doesn not is because Paris wasn't heavily bombed in WW2. Much of the City was destroyed in the air raids, thus leaving space for new developments. Finally, I wouldn't say St. Pauls's looks tiny and insignificant - if you're standing on the Waterloo bridge it grabs your attention more than the skyscrapers of the City.

Let's post some Milano pics as I see there aren't in the thread

http://i52.tinypic.com/160vdyp.jpg

Views from Branca Tower (108 m.) by skymino

Panorami dalla torre Branca del Parco Sempione, 108 mt

Guardando verso:
Nord
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/5851703363_47d3c24121_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5078/5852256400_733e947a66_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5230/5852254652_83dba51462_b.jpg


Ovest
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5276/5851705487_28c2ed0e90_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/5852253574_20a429ff92_b.jpg


Est
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/5851705325_c188f75def_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5078/5852254922_2357eac13a_b.jpg


Sud
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5851705049_722a3a2349_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/5851704779_798786edb3_b.jpg

Well, London's historical skyline from Victorian era consisted of St. Paul's, Big Ben and a number of church spires, all of them rather short.

1616 London Skyline
http://i.imgur.com/olYcm.jpg

I think all of the top European skylines are pretty equal, but Frankfurt is my overall fav. It's a classic example of a great skyline.

Frankfurt:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2910995479_ac12e818af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nagendra_jujaray/2910995479/)
Frankfurt skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nagendra_jujaray/2910995479/) by Nagendra Jujaray (http://www.flickr.com/people/nagendra_jujaray/), on Flickr

Paris:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/3479487066_64bc755136_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spwalker/3479487066/)
Paris skyline from the east (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spwalker/3479487066/) by S Walker (http://www.flickr.com/people/spwalker/), on Flickr

Barcelona:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/399004110_7a3bcd45db_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frazerphoto/399004110/)
Barcelona skyline 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frazerphoto/399004110/) by frazerphoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/frazerphoto/), on Flickr

London:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4596900366_6c3ef75321_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24519319@N06/4596900366/)
London Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24519319@N06/4596900366/) by Jutiar (http://www.flickr.com/people/24519319@N06/), on Flickr

Moscow:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/3964598084_6be8815f10_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmg1635/3964598084/)
Moscow Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmg1635/3964598084/) by kmg1635 (http://www.flickr.com/people/kmg1635/), on Flickr

Warsaw:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3395500522_fb4acaa7ef_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/misterschmidt/3395500522/)
Warsaw skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/misterschmidt/3395500522/) by Michael Schmidt1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/misterschmidt/), on Flickr

Rotterdam:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4399523054_903bc66fb0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/okalbum/4399523054/)
Rotterdam skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/okalbum/4399523054/) by okalbum (http://www.flickr.com/people/okalbum/), on Flickr

Madrid:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3459/3804351987_4c202a8b5a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/racatumba/3804351987/)
Madrid Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/racatumba/3804351987/) by racatumba (http://www.flickr.com/people/racatumba/), on Flickr

Vienna:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/89/205022581_2772174b0d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davelevy/205022581/)
Vienna Skyline No 4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davelevy/205022581/) by DaveLevy (http://www.flickr.com/people/davelevy/), on Flickr

Berlin:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/23849862_e306533d10_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markeb/23849862/)
Berlin Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/markeb/23849862/) by markeb23 (http://www.flickr.com/people/markeb/), on Flickr

Istanbul:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2526/3837641873_c8a5fd39a7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmakice/3837641873/)
Istanbul Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmakice/3837641873/) by kmakice (http://www.flickr.com/people/kmakice/), on Flickr

Milan:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/4963921915_7b2685c140_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/langiulli/4963921915/)
Milano Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/langiulli/4963921915/) by Francesco Langiulli (http://www.flickr.com/people/langiulli/), on Flickr

Naples:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2106/3535946350_a941dc1df7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paolobosso/3535946350/)
Naples skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paolobosso/3535946350/) by Amev (http://www.flickr.com/people/paolobosso/), on Flickr

Benidorm:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/5060537388_3ce940c5d9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vic_78/5060537388/)
Benidorm (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vic_78/5060537388/) by Vic-Designs (http://www.flickr.com/people/vic_78/), on Flickr

Tallin:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/129501745_1bd3616869_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/veljo/129501745/)
Tallinn skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/veljo/129501745/) by Veljo (http://www.flickr.com/people/veljo/), on Flickr

Vilnius:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/3145294286_c61b96ff47_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andriusp/3145294286/)
Vilnius Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andriusp/3145294286/) by andrius.p (http://www.flickr.com/people/andriusp/), on Flickr

Liverpool:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3156626625_d507b14fd8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alancookson/3156626625/)
Liverpool Skyline seen from Crosby Beach (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alancookson/3156626625/) by alancookson (http://www.flickr.com/people/alancookson/), on Flickr

I think they're all worth mentioning :)

^^ Thanks for posting many new pictures of various cities!!! I appreciate that, and i can clearly see how much Moscow skyline has changed. They are all looking nice ... in their own ways. Paris cluster seems well balanced, Frankfurt looks great, but Canary Wharf needs density and more boxy-towers like North American cities.

More pics of The City, London

http://i.imgur.com/6lp9p.jpg
Credit/Photographer - chest

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5182/5648833321_4337072acd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/notkaiho/5648833321/)
Canary Wharf and the City of London in smog (http://www.flickr.com/photos/notkaiho/5648833321/) by Kaiho_ (http://www.flickr.com/people/notkaiho/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5229/5850705563_a553742316_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850705563/)
A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5850705563/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/)


Madrid
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2784/5756029676_1c0f54a120_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/juanrvelasco/5756029676/)
144/365 Madrid sky line (http://www.flickr.com/photos/juanrvelasco/5756029676/) by Juan R. Velasco (http://www.flickr.com/people/juanrvelasco/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2616/5749771451_2b0fa5569c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/robby-molver/5749771451/sizes/l/in/photostream/


Warsaw
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4490056217_207c75eceb_o.png (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vasseura/4490056217/)
Warsaw skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vasseura/4490056217/) by vasseura (http://www.flickr.com/people/vasseura/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4440640038_9466be0e7d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guidolo/4440640038/)
Vor dem Sonnenuntergang (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guidolo/4440640038/) by guidolo (http://www.flickr.com/people/guidolo/)


Moscow :bow:

19.6.11
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4705/parktower99911.43/0_4c644_340991ed_orig

18.06.11
http://www.myxin.ru/fotos/moscow_city/06.18.11/imbc-1.jpg

Rotterdam, Netherlands By Niels

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/5761078163_f1a27cfcfe_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5761565434_0f39644ecb_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/5759978340_c7bb2f4c9a_b.jpg

milan today http://i51.tinypic.com/212ajj8.jpg

Great set of pics guys.

Rotterdam, Milan ... Bravo :applause:

Let me tell you what is good about each city
London: keeps some nice towers in a nice area not too big
Paris; Most of the towers are short but are evenly spaced out and lets people know it is a skyline.
Frankfurt:Has great very tall towers nice design to every. Especially the tallest one
Rotterdam: Small and cute, doesn't need huge towers in this city looks good.
Madrid:The four towers are very modern they all stand out will be a great skyscraper city.
Istanbul: looks like they have something going.
Warsaw: Having a boom in construction it will look very good and it already has a good tower city. Will look much better with some very tall.
Moscow: Some very impressive super talls, nice design of them and good cluster to make it look very good, looks nice at night probably best in Europe.

Moscow
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4608/mrdtv2010.16/0_66013_b0f93dcd_XXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mrdtv2010/view/417811/)

^^ Smashing!

Let me tell you what is good about each city
London: keeps some nice towers in a nice area not too big
Paris; Most of the towers are short but are evenly spaced out and lets people know it is a skyline.
Frankfurt:Has great very tall towers nice design to every. Especially the tallest one
Rotterdam: Small and cute, doesn't need huge towers in this city looks good.
Madrid:The four towers are very modern they all stand out will be a great skyscraper city.
Istanbul: looks like they have something going.
Warsaw: Having a boom in construction it will look very good and it already has a good tower city. Will look much better with some very tall.
Moscow: Some very impressive super talls, nice design of them and good cluster to make it look very good, looks nice at night probably best in Europe.

London has high-rises all across the city which gives it such a massive feel I find.

On another note ... The Shard is such a beacon :drool:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3433/5837134056_dff3662e93_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5862910726_7fbc048598_b.jpg?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/x3wolfgang/5862910726/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5233/5860814825_9ddd87ff8d_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/picturetimede/5860814825/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2580/5699451397_a3251d13b9_b.jpg?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebastian-fiedler/5699451397/sizes/l/in/photostream/

^^ Thats as good as most cities in the US!

^^ Impressive Franfurt pics!

I think Moscow realy has the most daring modern skyscrapers. I really wonder what the town will look like in 10 years.

The dildo-shaped buildings in Barcelona and London are also pretty daring though :lol:

I still think the Paris skyline is one of the best in the world. The large straight axis from the louvre, via the arc de triomphe, to la Défense is just breathtaking (if you look straight towards it of course). The Eifel tower also nicely sticks out.

Moscow and Frankfurt :applause: Paris and London need to work a bit harder

London again

http://cdn.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/1302626908-shard-2.jpg
By http://www.archdaily.com/126348/update-the-shard-renzo-piano/#more-126348

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/5857969858_723046482e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stumayhew/5857969858/)
[/url] by stumayhew (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stumayhew/5857969858/)


Paris

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/5764080263_c09fb96f4b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thierryphoto/5764080263/)
by Thierry B (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thierryphoto/5764080263/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5276/5849302189_4c9fd0b8e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jorgeabl/5849302189/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/jorgeabl/]jorgeabl (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jorgeabl/5849302189/)

If you look at the hight of skyscrapers you see a top ten very fast, but some city's are smaller and other city's have a lot more money, so than it is another story.

(FFM pics)

Impressive! :cheers: Btw, have you taken that second pic yourself or how did you manage to hotlink it here although the owner seems not to permit that?

@eduardo: the last option.

now i really think i have to upgrade frankfurt to number one in my list. but i guess i'd still go for my underdog... (for some personal reaasons)
1. Benidorm- not so good architecturally, and not at par when it comes to height but it has
the only continious skyline in more vantage points.
2. Frankfurt- well-clustered, good architecture, has the height factor, but kinda feel like still
missing something.
3. Paris- well-balanced and has continuity.
4. London- would have faired higher but the great skyscrapers are scattered all over which
kind of feels like a blasphemy to its heritage structures.
5. Moscow- for the great potential. has a good start with its nicely designed skyscrpers.

London & Paris.
Milan is doing great, btw.
These cities are already beautiful, anyway

I also prefer a concentration of skyscrapers at one place instead of skyscrapers being spread over a large area. This way you can keep the old city intact and at the same time enjoy enjoy the benefits of a modern business district. I like the London skyline, but I think it's a bit of a shame that the old buildings do not really stand out anymore. European cities does not have look like all the interchangeable modern American, Australian or Asian cities, they should maintain their own style.

Another little skyline in Croydon, London

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2483/3583390980_7e5f79ddfe_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/reds42/3583390980/)
[/url] by Reds. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/reds42/3583390980/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/41/123923269_fb4cbd64a5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robsalmon/123923269/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/robsalmon/]WoBB (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robsalmon/123923269/)

Amsterdam

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5808/mostheatre.43/0_63d22_d11e00cf_XXL.jpg

Madrid

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5146/5857017419_f3983dd213_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlsaguar/5857017419/)
[/url] por Julio López Saguar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlsaguar/5857017419/)

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por [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/58545098@N03/]-SIBI- (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58545098@N03/5854228357/)

I also prefer a concentration of skyscrapers at one place instead of skyscrapers being spread over a large area. This way you can keep the old city intact and at the same time enjoy enjoy the benefits of a modern business district. I like the London skyline, but I think it's a bit of a shame that the old buildings do not really stand out anymore. European cities does not have look like all the interchangeable modern American, Australian or Asian cities, they should maintain their own style.

exactly! that's one reason why i'm not that impressed with london although it boasts some of the most architecturally superior skyscrapers in Europe. I just think they don't complement the city as a whole. paris is a different story though, it has made a good cluster of skyscrapers without much negtive effects to its old historic architectures nearby. i just think that european cities do not need massive skylines, they're great without them...

Frankfurt had at least thirty years of building a skyline while Moscow started their majesty in like 2002. So who do you think has a "head start" and fast progress?

:):)

Istanbul


http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9341/54407457.jpg


Berlin
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2105/2099996149_9ae933428d_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardwig/2099996149/)
[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/hardwig/]Florian Hardwig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardwig/2099996149/)

^^ Beautiful pics, thanks for posting SO143

SO143 Nice photo my friend.

Frankfurt had at least thirty years of building a skyline while Moscow started their majesty in like 2002. So who do you think has a "head start" and fast progress?

not true. moscow started building skyscrapers in the 1950s. some of the most famous examples of skyscraper architecture are coming from the 50s and 60s. the latest buildings are just the new generation of highrise building in moscow.

exactly! that's one reason why i'm not that impressed with london although it boasts some of the most architecturally superior skyscrapers in Europe. I just think they don't complement the city as a whole. paris is a different story though, it has made a good cluster of skyscrapers without much negtive effects to its old historic architectures nearby. i just think that european cities do not need massive skylines, they're great without them...That was the attitude in London until the eighties and nineties.

Once upon a time "London skyline" meant something. ONLY landmark buildings were synonymous with that concept .

I grew up with this "rising out of the river" logo appearing in various programs on my TV:

http://poderesunidos.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/poderes-unidos-thames-tv_01.jpg
by poderes unidos (https://poderesunidos.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/poderes-unidos-thames-tv_01.jpg)

When I went to London for the first time THAT's what I wanted to see with my own eyes.

But alas, all these are completely gone from the horizon :mad: submerged into an ocean of glass and steel.

As a result, London skyline as a whole (not just buildings individually) is not iconic anymore
.

As a result, London skyline as a whole (not just buildings individually) is not iconic anymore

Disagree, Canary Wharf and The City skylines are some of the most recognizable and iconic skylines in Europe.

Rotterdam

http://huibnederhof.nl/webspace2/PanoKralingen1a.jpg

As a result, London skyline as a whole (not just buildings individually) is not iconic anymore
.

Disagree, Canary Wharf and The City skylines are some of the most recognizable and iconic skylines in Europe.

maybe "iconic" isn't the right word for it... i think london's skyline is recognizable.. but not impressive! mainly because of ruining its old-world charm.

That was the attitude in London until the eighties and nineties.

Once upon a time "London skyline" meant something. ONLY landmark buildings were synonymous with that concept .

I grew up with this "rising out of the river" logo appearing in various programs on my TV:

http://poderesunidos.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/poderes-unidos-thames-tv_01.jpg
by poderes unidos (https://poderesunidos.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/poderes-unidos-thames-tv_01.jpg)

When I went to London for the first time THAT's what I wanted to see with my own eyes.

But alas, all these are completely gone from the horizon :mad: submerged into an ocean of glass and steel.

As a result, London skyline as a whole (not just buildings individually) is not iconic anymore
.

Your "London skyline" is just St. Paul's cathedral. Only that. Insufficient for a city of that size. All other buildings that can be seen on the picture are only visible if you're standing on the riverbank or one of the bridges. They are not dominant from the great distance, and the point of "skyline" is that it's recognisable and impressive even many miles away.
Besides, even during Victorian Era, London was building the most modern buildings and used newest technologies in construction. Yes, the styles were "revival", but it was nevertheless contemporary architecture. So don't whine how London is destroying her urban fabric. London is going boldly forward, like she always did.

Stunning picture of Rotterdam!

I think the Rotterdam and Den Haag area is going to be so impressive in the future. You will be able to see the two nice skylines ver near each other.

maybe "iconic" isn't the right word for it... i think london's skyline is recognizable.. but not impressive! mainly because of ruining its old-world charm.

First of all London is not Rome or Anthem. London is famous for it's classic + modern (mixed) architecture. Second of all being a financial centre of the world i reckon London should build much more high standard "quality" skyscrapers in it's financial districts in order to be seen as a genuine Alpha++ world city that plays a huge role on the global scale. ATM i find it's skyline sort of inferior in terms of both quantity and density. I am not saying London should be like Dubai or Shanghai but it still needs to construct more highrises in order to shape it's massive skyline. On the other hand, Frankfurt cluster looks fantastic but it needs supertalls. Paris has great density but they look rather short. Without a doubt Moscow skyline is so promising and has a lot of potential to dominate all the Europe's tallest buildings. Other cities such as Istanbul, Rotterdam, Warsaw, Milano etc are also working hard and some of them already have good looking skylines. :yes:

I agree with most of it except that Frankfurt needs supertalls. I would appreciate more 200+ towers to generate a higher density, mostly bewtween the messe quarter and the bankcluster. after that a spertall would fit perfectly but not now.
personally I guess that Frankfurt has got the scrapers with the highest quality in europe.

On the other hand, Frankfurt cluster looks fantastic but it needs supertalls.

Placing a supertall in this cluster right now, would let frankfurts skyline look like a silly damaged circus-tent. No thank you.

^^ Well then, let's build a few of those at the same time:banana:

Placing a supertall in this cluster right now, would let frankfurts skyline look like a silly damaged circus-tent. No thank you.

You know you need to have one although you don't want, unless you got it you will still be seen as a little brother among big brothers :lol:

balderdash. I did not say No to supertalls at all. Frankfurt needs a basis for them. Its the best and most harmonic skyline in Europe and if it want to keep this title, it would be useless to run around like a scared chicken because London builds one and Paris talks about them for ... for how long is paris talkin now? 25 Years? Frankfurt needs a basis for Supertalls to keep it's skyline harmonic. And thats what Frankfurt has to work on now - and it works on it.

First of all London is not Rome or Anthem. London is famous for it's classic + modern (mixed) architecture. Second of all being a financial centre of the world i reckon London should build much more high standard "quality" skyscrapers in it's financial districts in order to be seen as a genuine Alpha++ world city that plays a huge role on the global scale. ATM i find it's skyline sort of inferior in terms of both quantity and density. I am not saying London should be like Dubai or Shanghai but it still needs to construct more highrises in order to shape it's massive skyline. On the other hand, Frankfurt cluster looks fantastic but it needs supertalls. Paris has great density but they look rather short. Without a doubt Moscow skyline is so promising and has a lot of potential to dominate all the Europe's tallest buildings. Other cities such as Istanbul, Rotterdam, Warsaw, Milano etc are also working hard and some of them already have good looking skylines. :yes:

i'm not saying that london shouldn't build one. i mean it's their prerogative if they choose to. but (hopefully) with proper zoning. paris' skyscrapers aren't as high and architecturally wonderful, but the clustering made it look more attractive than london. IMO.:)

not true. moscow started building skyscrapers in the 1950s. some of the most famous examples of skyscraper architecture are coming from the 50s and 60s. the latest buildings are just the new generation of highrise building in moscow.

well I guess I was saying who started the modern era and how long it took them.

Vienna

http://i.imgur.com/33huJ.jpg

Different angle of Madrid, a mix of the new with the old sckyscrapers the catedral and the royal palace.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8391/57233998093592cf5b79b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/57233998093592cf5b79b.jpg/)

pic by ferd

not actually the best, but i love it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1333/5134944743_7c4ba393b2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chacobo_flickr/5134944743/)
Barcelona Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chacobo_flickr/5134944743/) by David Chacobo (http://www.flickr.com/people/chacobo_flickr/), on Flickr

wow ! the Barcelona pic looks spectacular.

Love the dominance of Sagrada Família in that picture

Frankfurt

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5273/5873816979_40d7491364_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nilsb/5873816979/)
Der Himmel über Frankfurt (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nilsb/5873816979/) by Nils Bremer (http://www.flickr.com/people/nilsb/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5153/5867984994_a8197fd157_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/julian_herrmann/5867984994/sizes/l/in/photostream/


Moscow

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5241/5320662285_9b86560c49_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/callmearchie/5320662285/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5782437289_90f6d97151_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/obartunov/5782437289/)
Moscow-City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/obartunov/5782437289/) by Oleg Bartunov (http://www.flickr.com/people/obartunov/), on Flickr

Warsaw

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1012/768606043_697f00042c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guidolo/768606043/)
[/url] by guidolo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guidolo/768606043/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/1302549797_4f942533aa_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ewanp/1302549797/)
by Buddha_Fingaz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ewanp/1302549797/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2490/3879665395_5540fa91c8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15068801@N00/3879665395/)
by Rich pick (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15068801@N00/3879665395/)



Rotterdam

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/5843392130_acb7a17d90_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsgeorge/5843392130/)
by gsgeorge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsgeorge/5843392130/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/38932203_a5bbb1b783_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62053096@N00/38932203/)
by AgnesH (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62053096@N00/38932203/)


Milano

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/5207249863_e2550dfece_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/langiulli/5207249863/)
by Francesco Langiulli (http://www.flickr.com/photos/langiulli/5207249863/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5877210456_ff937c3638_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skymino/5877210456/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/skymino/]skymino (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skymino/5877210456/)

More photos of Vienna skyline, not the best but beautiful.

http://app.imaginevienna.at/fotocommunity/deliverImage.do?sessionId=&imageId=2555&format=650

http://img.******************/Oesterreich/Wien/Vienna-skyline-a17997167.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2756/2vr8.jpg

1. Frankfurt (though London and Moscow have bigger skyscrapers)
2. London
3. Paris
4. Rotterdam
5. Moscow

Madrid has not really a good skyline. 4 Tall skyscrapers . No cluster.

^^ not true; London hasn`t yet got any bigger skyscrapers than Frankfurt.

^^ not true; London hasn`t yet got any bigger skyscrapers than Frankfurt.

I think he was referring to this U/C one, or he might be referring to overall size

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5043/5313160020_b63c5c047a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39718739@N02/5313160020/)
The Money Shot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39718739@N02/5313160020/) by Alastair Batchelor (http://www.flickr.com/people/39718739@N02/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/5869408692_5dd65213d1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869408692/)
A very tall place in a rather large city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/5869408692/) by LiamCH (http://www.flickr.com/people/liamch/)

^^thats like saying London only has Canary Wharf.

Madrid has 2 main clusters AZCA & Cuatro Torres, the problem is the dislevel ground that the city sits on. You can only apreciate a good skyline view from the south in a tall building bc it's density will aslo will block the view from the ground. From the North u only see the four towers sense they sit in higher ground.

We just need more spaniard forumers to post pictures from this angles!!! (There is one more tower in the smaller cluster now aslo)

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/4601/azcacuatrotorres.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/860/azcacuatrotorres.jpg/)

...or he might be referring to overall size


I think he clearly said "bigger skyscrapers"..
But doesn't the Shard already beat Commerzbank Tower (without antenna)? They must be about the same height currently I think (or how tall is the Shard at the moment?).

not actually the best, but i love it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1333/5134944743_7c4ba393b2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chacobo_flickr/5134944743/)
Barcelona Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chacobo_flickr/5134944743/) by David Chacobo (http://www.flickr.com/people/chacobo_flickr/), on Flickr

Really an amazing picture of Barcelona :cheers:

Rainy Rotterdam
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9231/img5480jw.jpg
by bas b

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5806/go131.d/0_59af4_9d73881d_orig

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5508/go131.d/0_59af8_dcc004bb_XXXL
larger http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5508/go131.d/0_59af8_dcc004bb_orig

1.- Livorno
2.- London
3.- Moscow
4.- Frankfurt
5.- Paris

Barcelona, ​​España
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5009/5238672496_b2db3db693_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aigle_dore/5238672496/)
Barcelona (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aigle_dore/5238672496/) by ♀Μøỳαл_Bгεлл♂ (http://www.flickr.com/people/aigle_dore/), on Flickr

Barcelona
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/45/149133587_6244e06a3b_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattcornish/149133587/)
Barcelona Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattcornish/149133587/) by Dr.Flemming (http://www.flickr.com/people/mattcornish/), on Flickr

Madrid, España
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1367/1429682234_177781fad7_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/juanluispolo/1429682234/)
m azca noche feb05 07 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/juanluispolo/1429682234/) by JuanLuisPolo (http://www.flickr.com/people/juanluispolo/), on Flickr

Madrid
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/3046109737_0aebf8f960_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xag/3046109737/)
Madrid skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/xag/3046109737/) by Xag. (http://www.flickr.com/people/xag/), on Flickr

^ Gracias, si bonito and hermoso but can you post all those pics in one post and in large size? :cool:


Barcelona http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1333/5134944743_7c4ba393b2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chacobo_flickr/5134944743/)
Barcelona Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chacobo_flickr/5134944743/) by David Chacobo (http://www.flickr.com/people/chacobo_flickr/)

^^searching for those photos in flickr + (oddly) slow connection = had to post them separately and in that size:lol:

^^searching for those photos in flickr + (oddly) slow connection = had to post them separately and in that size:lol:

:okay: http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif siii

Isnt the biggest Skyline, but i think some of the nicer ones.
The Skyline in Frankfurt, Germany.

http://stadt.cityreview.de/images/fotos/7u/7unrlg.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5806/go131.d/0_59af4_9d73881d_orig

Have to say, that's a fantastic picture of Barcelona :cheers:

Benidorm, España
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5190/5675780657_4aa48bcef2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75362441@N00/5675780657/)
Skyline Benidorm, Spain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75362441@N00/5675780657/) by Tatiana Glansbeek (http://www.flickr.com/people/75362441@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5063/5676342804_0f98a2ea17_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75362441@N00/5676342804/)
Skyline Benidorm, Spain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75362441@N00/5676342804/) by Tatiana Glansbeek (http://www.flickr.com/people/75362441@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5675781703_4c848955d4_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75362441@N00/5675781703/)
Skyline Benidorm, Spain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75362441@N00/5675781703/) by Tatiana Glansbeek (http://www.flickr.com/people/75362441@N00/), on Flickr

más fotos de Benidorm, España

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5548061110_922b2699c2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosshawkes/5548061110/)
Benidorm skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosshawkes/5548061110/) by ross_hawkes (http://www.flickr.com/people/rosshawkes/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5547357407_4eb9d7a67b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosshawkes/5547357407/)
Benidorm view (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosshawkes/5547357407/) by ross_hawkes (http://www.flickr.com/people/rosshawkes/), on Flickr

Paris, France

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/5885636523_376f9cc650_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/remotelyboris/5885636523/)
A Very Boris Vacation - Paris Day II (http://www.flickr.com/photos/remotelyboris/5885636523/) by RemotelyBoris (http://www.flickr.com/people/remotelyboris/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5888652080_cbe4cb8811_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacobhamiltonsmith/5888652080/)
Skyscrapers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacobhamiltonsmith/5888652080/) by jacobhamiltonsmith (http://www.flickr.com/people/jacobhamiltonsmith/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5103/5885621959_6e9229f443_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/remotelyboris/5885621959/)
A Very Boris Vacation - Paris Day II (http://www.flickr.com/photos/remotelyboris/5885621959/) by RemotelyBoris (http://www.flickr.com/people/remotelyboris/), on Flickr

Paris

http://i.imgur.com/0VeIm.png
by wikipedia

^^ not true; London hasn`t yet got any bigger skyscrapers than Frankfurt.

Not yet , but I thought of the Shard when it is finished.

I can't see any of the pics from dustin's posts, does anyone else have this problem?

Isnt the biggest Skyline, but i think some of the nicer ones.
The Skyline in Frankfurt, Germany.

http://stadt.cityreview.de/images/fotos/7u/7unrlg.jpg

what a poor pic of mainhattan :ohno:

I love it when people start begging for pictures of their city in angles that make it look better......

I love it when people start begging for pictures of their city in angles that make it look better......

Frankfurt skyline is nice but based on that last shot im gonna have to rate it 3.5 http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif (ps im being generous)

Madrid

http://i.imgur.com/ZqQpj.jpg