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saurav_68 May 22nd, 2011, 06:08 PM Vote your choice for Kolkata and Bengals various issues .Issues about Kolkata is most preferred,but you can post the issues about the other suburbs of Bengal also. Every one is welcome here.Your vote may solve those issues,so please don't forget to vote.Every vote is important.Not only the residents of Bengal but every forummers please vote.
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saurav_68 May 23rd, 2011, 07:17 AM More than 160+ views but only 12 votes..come on mates...Not only view this poll but please vote also.
Suncity May 24th, 2011, 01:17 AM As per Bartamaan action was taken against "encroachers" in Behala. Hawkers were "warned". Also 5 "illegal" autos were seized. Some improvements were noticed in the flow of the traffic.
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studdmanster May 24th, 2011, 05:53 AM here u go another related news from TOI...:)
Kolkata traffic cops for Behala,Thakurpukur
If chief minister Mamata Banerjee gives a go-ahead,Behala and Thakurpukur will soon be manned by Kolkata traffic police.
This is in sync with a rising trend in police administrative circles to summon the city police to clear traffic mess created by their own years of apathy.
So when the chief minister wanted an immediate solution to traffic imbroglio in the southern fringes,primarily Diamond Harbour Road,she found a stereotype answer hand it over to the Kolkata Police.
The traffic bottleneck on the Diamond Harbour stretch from Taratola to Joka are a drivers nightmare.As vehicles crawl from Behala Chowrasta to Taratala,it only reiterates the sad state of affairs.The few police constables (if one is lucky,otherwise its only homeguards) spotted are deployed with either the Behala or the Thakurpukur police station.
The Metro railway construction and the non-functional tram route which eats away most of the road space will take sometime to be completed.Added to it the auto stands along the Behala tram depot.
In her first meeting with state director-general of police Naparajit Mukherjee,the chief minister had raised her concern over the traffic mess in the areas hemming Kolkata.This prompted a series of high-level meetings.While the DGP took stock of the issue,the enormity of the problem at hand was realised.Key to it are the several proposals sent since 2009 that are gathering dust.These proposals made a case for augmentation of the state traffic wing by providing it with adequate manpower and infrastructure.
A case in point.Out of the 3,400 sanctioned posts under the state traffic wing,1,921 are lying vacant.
If one were to draw parallels with Kolkata Traffic police,sources said,this perhaps is the key differentiator.
Kolkata has a 5,000-strong force to man its traffic more than what the police has to man the entire state.Leave alone the 2,443 constables and 1,500 homeguards,it has 240 sergeants and 90 senior officers (sub-inspector and above).
When it was asked to man the EM Bypass and Sector V,the Kolkata Police was sanctioned another 200 sergeants,taking the figure to 440.It,therefore,had a financial implication attached.
The state traffic police are also hamstrung by lack of administrative control over its personnel.According to rule,the district police superintendents are also the SP (Traffic).The men deployed report to the SPs.Besieged by law and order and investigation issues,traffic is always low on their priority.
On Monday,a meeting was convened at the ADG (Traffic)s Bhawani Bhawan office.It was attended by the police superintendents of South and North 24-Parganas and Howrah and the DIG (Presidency Range).
The meeting decided that the government be forwarded a proposal to immediately set up 10 traffic guards with strength varying from 70 to 100 in these three districts.
ADG (Traffic) Arun Kumar Gupta said,We had proposed 95 traffic guards to be set up across the state.Since this may take sometime,we have requested the government to consider setting up these 10 guards on an immediate basis to control the traffic. Gupta,though,refused to speak further.
The penchant by the state police to hand over their traffic woes to Kolkata Police is also creating a legal loophole.Even if Kolkata Police runs the show in areas beyond its jurisdiction,it has no right to slap cases or take penal action.
These need to be lodged only with the local police.If action against traffic offenders is crucial to impose traffic discipline,Kolkata Police is left with no teeth in these areas.
It is also difficult to assign the main thoroughfare to someone and the arterial roads leading to it to someone else.It calls for round-the-clock coordination which is not always there, admits a Kolkata Police officer.The key to Kolkata polices success is more manpower, the officer admits.
So will the chief minister accede to the logic and hand over the traffic in Behala-Thakurpukur to Kolkata Police or will she augment the state polices traffic set up and create another benchmark The answer lies on how fast she wants to address the issue.Kolkata Police is an immediate solution;the other would take its own time.
saurav_68 May 24th, 2011, 05:42 PM As per Bartamaan action was taken against "encroachers" in Behala. Hawkers were "warned". Also 5 "illegal" autos were seized. Some improvements were noticed in the flow of the traffic.
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Hope,this actions will be taken regular basis and not only in kolkata,but also through out the west bengal.:cheers:
saurav_68 May 28th, 2011, 06:17 PM Thanks to those people who have voted. :)
ayan92 May 31st, 2011, 09:50 AM Thanks to those people who have voted. :)
saurav, no major action can be taken immediately. we must understand that changes cannot be brought about overnight..... or else, such changes can also lead to disasters. we must be patient and thoughtfull about things, before making any such important changes, which could have great impact on lives of several people. any hasty action can result to misery.
I understand your concern for ASAP improvements for our favourite city, & I do respect your views. but have you ever put your mind across about thousands of such vendors or hawkars, what meagre income they have? how they just manage to earn two square meals a day for their families? how they see their dreams of their children getting educated remain just as dreams? you can just forget about their shelter & healthcare facilities. how much misery is there in their lives? I hope you are able to understand now what it would mean by their immediate removal. solution could be either relocating them to better market regions, where aam aadmi can access them, or providing them with better job facilities. but all I can say is....haste makes waste
saurav_68 June 25th, 2011, 01:41 PM saurav, no major action can be taken immediately. we must understand that changes cannot be brought about overnight..... or else, such changes can also lead to disasters. we must be patient and thoughtfull about things, before making any such important changes, which could have great impact on lives of several people. any hasty action can result to misery.
I understand your concern for ASAP improvements for our favourite city, & I do respect your views. but have you ever put your mind across about thousands of such vendors or hawkars, what meagre income they have? how they just manage to earn two square meals a day for their families? how they see their dreams of their children getting educated remain just as dreams? you can just forget about their shelter & healthcare facilities. how much misery is there in their lives? I hope you are able to understand now what it would mean by their immediate removal. solution could be either relocating them to better market regions, where aam aadmi can access them, or providing them with better job facilities. but all I can say is....haste makes waste
I respect your view Ayan92,but if do a survey you will found 60% of the hawkers and encroachers are from U.P, Jharkhand and Bihar.Can you tell me why W.B should take their job responsibility,it is the task of U.P,Bihar,Jharkhand Govt. to give them job.So why we should allow them to do illegal business here encroaching footpaths,roads,parks and govt. lands.
soumalya747 June 26th, 2011, 12:05 PM Dear Saurav,
At first we are Indian. So we should help all Indians. Now UP, Bihar and Jharkand are part of India. So we should help the people who are coming from this state. If you come to Mumbai you can see lots of lower class bengalis are doing the same job. And if the Maharastra Govt start to send all Bengalis from Maharastra, so can you imagine the scene? So its the time we should help each other to fight with our Indian brothers and sisters.
mountaincloud June 26th, 2011, 12:44 PM I respect your view Ayan92,but if do a survey you will found 60% of the hawkers and encroachers are from U.P, Jharkhand and Bihar.Can you tell me why W.B should take their job responsibility,it is the task of U.P,Bihar,Jharkhand Govt. to give them job.So why we should allow them to do illegal business here encroaching footpaths,roads,parks and govt. lands.
We at West Bengal should stay thousands of miles away from this type of identity politics of raj thackeray.
ayan92 June 27th, 2011, 09:32 AM We at West Bengal should stay thousands of miles away from this type of identity politics of raj thackeray.
absolutely, probably no 'dil' is bigger than a bengali's 'dil'. :cheers:
saurav_68 June 27th, 2011, 03:18 PM Dear Saurav,
At first we are Indian. So we should help all Indians. Now UP, Bihar and Jharkand are part of India. So we should help the people who are coming from this state. If you come to Mumbai you can see lots of lower class bengalis are doing the same job. And if the Maharastra Govt start to send all Bengalis from Maharastra, so can you imagine the scene? So its the time we should help each other to fight with our Indian brothers and sisters.
But the no. of Bengalis is much lesser than the no. of Biharies,Jharkhandis.Yes we can help them by allowing them to do business here,but they should do legal business not by encroaching footpaths,stations which makes chaos.If you go to Mumbai or Delhi or else you will find the no. of hawkers is much lesser than of kolkata and also they are doing their business in much regulated manner,not hampering the peoples or not encroaching the whole footpaths. In Delhi hawkers do business in sat,sun only.
soumalya747 June 28th, 2011, 03:55 PM That"s because of our former "Left Govt". They had already declared that Hawkers can use 2/3 of Pedestrian Path. So this kind of dirty politics can happen in Bengal only. And our New Govt is already trying to solve this problem. So in future hopefully we can see a less Hawkers and more walking area in Footpath.
samrat_m June 28th, 2011, 04:10 PM That"s because of our former "Left Govt". They had already declared that Hawkers can use 2/3 of Pedestrian Path. So this kind of dirty politics can happen in Bengal only. And our New Govt is already trying to solve this problem. So in future hopefully we can see a less Hawkers and more walking area in Footpath.
But is the new Govt really trying to solve the problem ??:smug:
I guess only time will tell the story
saurav_68 June 28th, 2011, 06:11 PM That"s because of our former "Left Govt". They had already declared that Hawkers can use 2/3 of Pedestrian Path. So this kind of dirty politics can happen in Bengal only. And our New Govt is already trying to solve this problem. So in future hopefully we can see a less Hawkers and more walking area in Footpath.
Don't know whether the new govt. will really take any step or not,haven't seen any plan.The govt. is new but the rulers are already ruling the KMC for more than 1year,till now if they had any plan to free kolkata from hawkers they could have shown it through KMC.KMC has enough power to do this kind of operation.
Suncity June 28th, 2011, 06:49 PM That"s because of our former "Left Govt". They had already declared that Hawkers can use 2/3 of Pedestrian Path. So this kind of dirty politics can happen in Bengal only. And our New Govt is already trying to solve this problem. So in future hopefully we can see a less Hawkers and more walking area in Footpath.
Well Mamata is a big opponent of hakwer removal. She opposed operation sunshine. Let's see if she shows any determination to solve the hawker problem or just treats them like votebanks like every other politician.
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