View Full Version : Oslo or Fjordcity?


Þróndeimr
May 30th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Poll is in favor of a Oslo subsection. Poll has now been closed and case settled.

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Norway is big and active enough to support a subsection, actually this is something we need right now to continue growing and attract more forumers. After a bit of discussing the subject we have ended up with two choices, a subsection for the city of Oslo (obviously with Bærum, Asker etc.) or a subsection just for the Fjordcity project.

Subsection of Oslo
Is a clear subsection and will most likely be most attractive. However, right now about 70% if not more of the activity in the Norway section is in Oslo's threads, this mean the rest of the Norway section might turn small and somewhat inactive?

Subsection of Fjordcity
Start small? Fjordcity is a large project, with 13 very active threads concerning different projects in Fjordcity, and there is lots of future projects waiting to be discussed.

IceCheese
May 30th, 2011, 09:06 PM
I vote for the "test-run", ie Fjordcity!:)

OnTheNorthRoad
May 30th, 2011, 09:34 PM
I believe there's a need for some clarification, so that we know what we're voting for and how it'll turn out structurally.

Firstly, is it natural to separate fjordcity from the rest of Oslo? I know this might be secondary, but it does carry with it some rather unfortunate symbolic consequences. The fjordcity project is all about integrating city and waterfront, and there's a lot of overlapping development going on, such as 'Krystallklar', which obviously doesn't belong to the fjordcity development, but at the same time it has to be seen in context with the ongoing development around it, as does the new central station.

Threads such as 'Oslo's new skyline', where does it belong?

espenhs
May 30th, 2011, 09:39 PM
I believe there's a need for some clarification, so that we know what we're voting for and how it'll turn out structurally.

Firstly, is it natural to separate fjordcity from the rest of Oslo? I know this might be secondary, but it does carry with it some rather unfortunate symbolic consequences. The fjordcity project is all about integrating city and waterfront, and there's a lot of overlapping development going on, such as 'Krystallklar', which obviously doesn't belong to the fjordcity development, but at the same time it has to be seen in context with the ongoing development around it, as does the new central station.

Threads such as 'Oslo's new skyline', where does it belong?I voted Oslo because of this exactly.

kjetilab
May 30th, 2011, 09:41 PM
I voted for a Fjordcity test-run also. Let's see how this turns out.

espenhs
May 30th, 2011, 09:43 PM
Actually I'm against having a subsection at all, I just felt compelled to vote something.

IceCheese
May 30th, 2011, 09:46 PM
@Onthenorth: In my first suggestion, I placed the skyline-thread in the Fjordcity-section. Mainly, this is because both Fjordporten and Krystallklar are so far in the future, I don't have to take it into consideration, yet!:lol:

But in the future, it would probably belong in the main section, but I doubt this division will stay for so long. In 1/2-1 year or so, we will decide whether to continue the seperation with the rest of the Oslo-threads, or we will decide to gather all threads again (less likely, IMO).

kjetilab
May 30th, 2011, 09:54 PM
But in the future, it would probably belong in the main section, but I doubt this division will stay for so long. In 1/2-1 year or so, we will decide whether to continue the seperation with the rest of the Oslo-threads, or we will decide to gather all threads again (less likely, IMO).

I guess it all depends on the possible rise in activity or lack thereof.

Galro
May 30th, 2011, 09:59 PM
I vote Oslo. Both because there may be some doubt about whether or not a project belongs in Oslo or Fjordcity treads, but more importantly because I would like to see more Oslo treads as I think the current Oslo Development treads picture updates usually are too big to follow. It's scrolling for your life. It does gets tiresome when enough people have been out taking pictures. I would prefer to see one tread dedicated to Oslo inner city (inside ring 3) and one to suburbia for example.

City of Rain
May 30th, 2011, 10:06 PM
Fjord-city. Like some said, having an "Oslo"-subsection would make the main page dead, which would be depressing.

OnTheNorthRoad
May 30th, 2011, 10:24 PM
@Onthenorth: In my first suggestion, I placed the skyline-thread in the Fjordcity-section. Mainly, this is because both Fjordporten and Krystallklar are so far in the future, I don't have to take it into consideration, yet!:lol:

But in the future, it would probably belong in the main section, but I doubt this division will stay for so long. In 1/2-1 year or so, we will decide whether to continue the seperation with the rest of the Oslo-threads, or we will decide to gather all threads again (less likely, IMO).

It'll probably work fine anyhow, but I still think it'll be hard to divide between fjordcity and Oslo S/kvadraturen/Aker Brygge/downtown Oslo. Suggestion: Fjordcity and downtown/central Oslo in one subsection, including filipstad and kvadraturen, while local satelite centers, such as Økern, are held outside together with other developments in Oslo and Akershus.

In that way, the new subsection will cover the projects with skyline impact, it'll cover all projects connected to the main hub in Norway and it'll cover the projects that produce threads that have themes in common. At the same time, the section will be sort of a showcase on its own, which is perhaps kind of the idea?

Still unsure whether it's better than just 'Oslo', though..

mjoks007
May 30th, 2011, 10:24 PM
I vote for "Oslo Fjordcity". Like mentioned, the main page would feel quite dead, besides, the activity in the Oslo threads dont justify an own section IMO. Its rather to get a better overview on the different threads belongs to the fjordcity, mainly threads with construction updates.

IceCheese
May 30th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Aker Brygge

Fjordcity-project;)

OnTheNorthRoad
May 30th, 2011, 11:12 PM
^^

It was in the 80s :)

Anyways, fjordcity it is then, mainly because the main section will be too dead if greater Oslo claims independence.

..

No, Changed my mind again. It'll be too messy. Oslo it is, and now it's a dead race.

Galro
May 30th, 2011, 11:17 PM
How about Oslo inner city subforum then? Then we would still get all the projects at Løren, Økern, Fornebu and other suburbia projects at the front page.

Edit: Not all that unlike what OnTheNorthRoad suggested above.

muster
May 30th, 2011, 11:29 PM
Oslo, with Fjordcity as a sticky in the subsection.

mjoks007
May 30th, 2011, 11:47 PM
Or just highrises...

Olabil
May 31st, 2011, 12:00 AM
I can`t make up my mind here! I see the point of the the main page becoming dead, so for that sake I might vote for Fjordbyen, but we need to include Oslo in the name, so the foreign visitors understands what it`s about.

The most important for me however is that we split Oslo development thread into 3-4 threads, for example Økern, Nydalen, Løren and Fornebu. This is projects that will be going for another 10+ years, and it`s just going to be more and more messy if we keep them together. Vulkan is a good example of this, I enjoy to follow updates on that thread because I can compare it to earlier posts and get the full picture.

Þróndeimr
May 31st, 2011, 07:14 AM
I do have a hard time to make up my mind, but i voted Oslo because i feel it will be the best for Oslo, as well as it will make many of the current city threads in the main section more visible.

Both Bergen, Trondheim and similar threads drown in Oslo threads, and this is the places we need the most new forumers from right now. I would not mind creating a few more threads about the biggest projects in these cities to ease the size of the main development threads, and if all Oslo threads move into a new subsection there will be much room for this. As for now i am not really afraid that the main section will be inactive, actually it might be positive since it will be easier to find interesting information, which is a essential cause for new forumers to register on SSC.

Ingenioren
May 31st, 2011, 10:46 AM
Or just highrises...

Actually yes.

I vote for Oslo for the same reasons as mentioned above - don't want to divide the city between 2 sub-sections, and i want more treads both for the city and "bygde-Norge:)".

Mulefisk
May 31st, 2011, 11:16 AM
Voting for fjordcity.

I'm wondering where we should draw the line though. For example, where will the new Oslo S thread go?

Ingenioren
May 31st, 2011, 11:22 AM
^ Fjordcity i would say!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Fjordbyen.gif
(If this map was made today it would probably include Oslo S as they back then included Jernbanetorget.)

Waluigi
May 31st, 2011, 11:49 AM
Voted for Oslo.

It would look much cleaner with all Oslo-related threads in one place.
Easier to navigate, find and follow projects.
It would also relieve the main page, wich also makes that one easier to navigate.

I'm confident that there will be activity, and we'll probably attract som new users as well.

City of Rain
May 31st, 2011, 03:35 PM
By second thought, Oslo wouldn't be that bad if we managed to keep the rest of the forum active, as well..

Whatever you choose to do, just do it quick.. I bumped the Bergen-thread like 2-3 days ago, and it's already half-way down the page..

Þróndeimr
May 31st, 2011, 05:00 PM
So it looks like we're going for a Oslo subsection. I will discuss this with the admins then we will see how soon we get a new section.

IceCheese
May 31st, 2011, 06:47 PM
Great. A chance to start over with lots of new Osloians, and no Cities of Rain!:banana:

:lol:

City of Rain
May 31st, 2011, 08:32 PM
^^ I never post in Oslo-threads anyway.

Finally my lovely Bergen-thread won't be overshadowed by Oslo :)