View Full Version : need help on sim city 4


pakboy
October 3rd, 2004, 08:52 PM
i have just made a city, population is still small,

problem is i have made high density commercial and residential zones as well as low density, but i am nhot getting any high risers or buildings at all, only small houses and shops.

otherthing is that my yearly income is less then my expenditure, so i lose alot of money every year, wat can i do to fix that, should i raise taxes,

and how can i increase population rapidly.

Style™
October 3rd, 2004, 09:02 PM
you need a large population and high demand for skyscrapers.

think this way - in real life are there many cities with a population less than 10,000 with many supertalls?

DiggerD21
October 3rd, 2004, 10:31 PM
I set the taxes on 9% for the poor, 8,5% for the middle class and 8% for the wealthy (no matter if residential, commercial or industrial)
How many inhabitants do you have? Have you already built service facilities? (police station, fire department, hospital, school etc.) If yes, decrease the funding to a level that is enough to fulfill the demand of these services and watch them constantly. If you have still money, the demand of i.e. residential is high and the already existing residentials don't grow, then built some more residential zones within the areas of the service facilities as long as you have money.

pakboy
October 3rd, 2004, 10:34 PM
the other problem i am getting is that employment is 100% full, so there are many people in my city without jobs, and there houses end up being abandoned, and i cant create more jobs cos my commercial zones just arnt developing at all.

Style™
October 3rd, 2004, 10:39 PM
get industrial zones then

pakboy
October 3rd, 2004, 11:51 PM
i have put many industrial zones is well, but they are not developing any further and are all of dirty industry.

DiggerD21
October 3rd, 2004, 11:57 PM
Is there a demand for high-tech industry? Then make a new little industrial park where air and water are still clean. Let some green space between the dirty and the high-tech industry.

pakboy
October 4th, 2004, 05:02 AM
ok, but how do i make my commercial zones grow, cos there just about empty.

MatHack
October 4th, 2004, 09:08 AM
You have to provide a good educational and a good health system, those are very important to get smarter and richer people.

Syd-Hk
October 4th, 2004, 02:53 PM
maybe it's a demand cap, try plopping plazas, but seeing your low on money i suggest zoning industry or making a neighbour connection to make your sims work in another city.

pakboy
October 4th, 2004, 03:30 PM
well the citys next to mine are empty and i have put mnay plazas in the commercial areas but there not developing still.

and the industrys are also closing down and so are the residential zones as there are no jobs, i have also proposed the clean air ordenience but still nothing happened

pakboy
October 4th, 2004, 06:19 PM
i am completly stuck.

my commercial and industrial zones arnt developing and the residential zones arnt developing either, cos there are no jobs, and also my education is on the rise. i dnt know wat to do.

LSyd
October 4th, 2004, 07:32 PM
do they have water? what's the crime rate? is garbage a problem?

how far's commercial to residential? i'd zone them closer together, keep the commute time low.

maybe for money, you can zone a lot of dirty industrial along one side of the city, and then tax it highly, while you have most of the commercial and residential on the other side.

what's your education and health situations, too?

my suggested tax rate would be around 8% for $ and $$ commercial, and at least for lower-wealth residential; you'll have more of them, and you can get more of them easier than getting wealthy ones, and then up their taxes.

good luck.

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pakboy
October 4th, 2004, 07:39 PM
no, i have no problem iwth water, power or garbage.

still its not developing.

MatHack
October 4th, 2004, 08:08 PM
Maybe a screenshot of your city would help us. Could you make on and post it?

pakboy
October 4th, 2004, 11:17 PM
ok here are screen shoots, bad quality thought.

housing, you can see there abandon, and ppl with no jobs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Gwadar-10Oct.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/housing.png

industry also getting abandon and is very dirty plus its a high industry zone
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/industryegtingabandon.png

downtown, not 1 skyscraper, except a casino.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/downtown.png

birds eye view of industrial zone
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/birdseyeviewindustry.png

my city
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/beviewofcity.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/beviewcity.png

MatHack
October 5th, 2004, 01:47 AM
Are you using any elementary schools, I can't seem to find them on your screenshots?

If you query the abbandoned buildings (try all 3 kinds, RCI), what's the reason those get abbandoned?

pakboy
October 5th, 2004, 02:22 AM
yea i have 1 elementry school and 3 private schools (d/l off net)

pakboy
October 5th, 2004, 02:26 AM
well i queryed all of them but it says nothing except current occupation 0/how ever big it is. and the rest of the stuf which it usally says like pollution, crime, land value, eduction and all that is good.

Sultan
October 5th, 2004, 02:35 AM
Pakboy,

are you playing the original ??

DiggerD21
October 5th, 2004, 03:45 AM
one elementary school is not enough to cover nearly all your residential areas. You also have far too much commercial areas and often too far away from the residentials. It is better, if you put some commercial blocks into the residential zone and delete the commercial zones, which are far away. Or build residential zones around all existing commercial zones, but don't forget to provide hospitals, police, fire dept. ,educational facilities etc. to this new residential zones.

Your town doesn't look big enough to get skyscrapers. Be patient.

LSyd
October 5th, 2004, 05:32 AM
1. you really don't need that many power lines, power'll go from zone to zone easily (within 2 tiles i think)

2. mix up your commercial and residential more to cut down on commute time

3. your taxes...lower 'em some to encourage growth.

4. maybe try a grid system, at least for part of your city; see what happens with it.

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pakboy
October 5th, 2004, 04:56 PM
i have put commercial zones inside my residential zones is well but there not growing either.

if i take the power lines out the power doesnt go to the zones.

and my education is quite high with 1 elementry school and 3 private schools.

MatHack
October 5th, 2004, 06:33 PM
If you querying the 'blacked' buildings you should see a reason why the building is abbandoned.

pakboy
October 5th, 2004, 07:40 PM
nope it doesnt say a reason.

Syd-Hk
October 6th, 2004, 07:09 AM
have you patched your sc4? try reinstalling sc4 + rh again. if it still doesn't work , then maybe it's the cd that's missing some data. you can try to ask ea for another copy.

pakboy
October 6th, 2004, 04:46 PM
were do i get the patch from

MatHack
October 6th, 2004, 05:10 PM
http://simcity.ea.com

pakboy
October 6th, 2004, 08:03 PM
i cant find the patch on the site.

Syd-Hk
October 7th, 2004, 03:59 PM
you need to have registered your SC4 by using your serial number provided AND have a valid username for the site.

pakboy
October 7th, 2004, 10:55 PM
ye i have registered, but they dnt have no patches, i went to the downloads section is well, but they only have buildings and regions to d/l.

BlackRat
October 7th, 2004, 11:02 PM
You're too impatient. Read the manual, view the site and learn the basics. All of your questions are simple things that you can learn yourself by just playing the game. Give yourself more time; this is a vast and complex game.

Syd-Hk
October 8th, 2004, 09:49 AM
very true blackrat. simcity.com will check your computer for updates not you.

pakboy
October 8th, 2004, 03:38 PM
i am impateint cos i have been playing this game for 2 years and still i have no result.

Syd-Hk
October 8th, 2004, 04:51 PM
^lol

zuhahmed
October 8th, 2004, 04:52 PM
thats because u dont where underwear?

pakboy
October 8th, 2004, 04:57 PM
thats because u dont where underwear?



this guy is a compleye physco who talks about underwear in every thread, plz ignore him and back to the topic.

pakboy
October 8th, 2004, 04:59 PM
well my commercial zone has superb desirability factors, except customers are low, but still not developing, how do i increase customers.

LSyd
October 8th, 2004, 05:25 PM
1. have it by well-used roads, intersections

2. plazas nearby

3. residential nearby.

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pakboy
October 8th, 2004, 05:58 PM
1. have it by well-used roads, intersections

2. plazas nearby

3. residential nearby.

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yep i have all of that, but still not developing.

zuhahmed
October 8th, 2004, 06:27 PM
there must be some thing wrong with ur computer, or ur pants

pakboy
October 8th, 2004, 11:45 PM
ok, i think i have got the problem. it might the commute time, which is medium mostly and high in some places.

now firstly wat is commute and how do i make it low.

MatHack
October 9th, 2004, 12:11 AM
commute time is the time it takes to get from your home to your job, and you make it low by placing work closer to home or a better traffic/mass transit system.

rbhriuthbu1234
October 9th, 2004, 02:48 AM
Go to, http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.insims.de/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinsims.de%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

There are many good cities here and I suggest that you download yack mate
because It helped my city go from small town to big city in just hours.
My city Downtown San Francisco currently has 1.7 million inhabinits and yack mate helped me get to 750,000. Yack mate has very good trade and if you connect roads to this city you'll see improvements fast. This city has good commercial trade and good residential trade and I'm not sure About industry but it will help you in commercial and residential. It might not help you as fast as it helped me but if it doesn't there are plenty of other cities to download.



If you have any questions just ask.

Syd-Hk
October 9th, 2004, 04:43 PM
there must be some thing wrong with ur computer, or ur pants

... can you explain to me how HIS pants happen to fit in SC4? :)

pakboy
October 9th, 2004, 04:59 PM
... can you explain to me how HIS pants happen to fit in SC4? :)


i told you to ignore this physco, man hes mental. he does this in every topic.

Syd-Hk
October 10th, 2004, 02:44 PM
i told you to ignore this physco, man hes mental. he does this in every topic.

TIP:feel free to report him to an admin if you want :) :)

pakboy
October 10th, 2004, 06:26 PM
Go to, http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.insims.de/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinsims.de%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

There are many good cities here and I suggest that you download yack mate
because It helped my city go from small town to big city in just hours.
My city Downtown San Francisco currently has 1.7 million inhabinits and yack mate helped me get to 750,000. Yack mate has very good trade and if you connect roads to this city you'll see improvements fast. This city has good commercial trade and good residential trade and I'm not sure About industry but it will help you in commercial and residential. It might not help you as fast as it helped me but if it doesn't there are plenty of other cities to download.



If you have any questions just ask.





were do i find this yack mate on that website.

rbhriuthbu1234
October 10th, 2004, 10:11 PM
So sorry scroll down and to the left of the screen there should be a section called downloads and click on cities and that is page that yack mate is on http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=139840&page=3
and if you still can't find it go to http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.insims.de/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinsims.de%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG.

note: yack mate has some buildings that are special and require like patchs and downloads and some buildings won't show up but, that won't change the trade.




If you have anymore questions just ask.

pakboy
October 11th, 2004, 05:50 PM
ok i downloaded it, how do i put the city in the game now.

rbhriuthbu1234
October 12th, 2004, 03:04 AM
If you downloaded it in a winzip file highlight the file yack mate and extract it into C:\My Documents\SimCity 4\Regions\Downloads. Start the game and import it into a medium sized map, when you go to import it goto downloads and click on the plus sign beside the folder and then select yackmate.








It might sound confusing so if you have anymore questions just ask.

zuhahmed
October 12th, 2004, 03:47 AM
you are psycho to Pakboy look at this
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=133224&page=1 :weirdo: and every body has problems with thier pants

Syd-Hk
October 12th, 2004, 02:51 PM
you are psycho to Pakboy look at this
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=133224&page=1 :weirdo: and every body has problems with thier pants

i THOUGHT they were talking about YOUR pants, unless im mistaken?

pakboy, try to get the IP's from the accounts, if they match, it's nearly 100% it's same person~ good luck!

zuhahmed
October 12th, 2004, 03:25 PM
ya right, i am not the same person the moderators already checked. they made a fool out of pakboy, and he cried after that and his pants came down because he became pregnant.

pakboy
October 12th, 2004, 03:54 PM
i THOUGHT they were talking about YOUR pants, unless im mistaken?

pakboy, try to get the IP's from the accounts, if they match, it's nearly 100% it's same person~ good luck!


naah the ips are different cos he told me on msn that he registered his zuahmed account at college and his india2050 account at home.

but everyone on the forum knows its india2050, no one even likes him on the pakistan forum.

pakboy
October 12th, 2004, 04:02 PM
check this topic made by zuahmed

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=114625



here is wat he has asked everyone.

i know this is stupid, but all my life i have wondered whats the point of wearing an underwear, specially for a man, why do we wear it?

hahahaha, know you know how much of a psyco this guy is, there are also many other stupid topics started by him.

zuhahmed
October 12th, 2004, 04:10 PM
i would never talk to a man on msn who is pregnant and loses his pants everywhere

zuhahmed
October 12th, 2004, 04:12 PM
and yes i still dont understand why people where underwear

but pakboy u should because u are pregnant and have a habit of loosing ur pants, u dont wana show ur weiner in public, unless u want too

STR
October 12th, 2004, 07:47 PM
Listen to Zuhahmed, I once had no control of my pants. After getting control of my pants problem my cities went from this:
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/8637/Centropolis-Oct19731097609064.jpg

To this:
http://img50.exs.cx/img50/3066/Centropolis-Oct19731097609029.jpg
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/2185/Centropolis-Oct19731097609002.jpg

The moral of the story is to watch those pants, and all that is under them. If you do success will follow.

Syd-Hk
October 13th, 2004, 07:54 AM
and yes i still dont understand why people where underwear

but pakboy u should because u are pregnant and have a habit of loosing ur pants, u dont wana show ur weiner in public, unless u want too

erm... this isnt a sexual forum please keep comments to yourself.

pakboy
October 13th, 2004, 04:49 PM
erm... this isnt a sexual forum please keep comments to yourself.


this guy is gay. better to keep away from him. i jus heard he got engaged to this other canadian guy in dubai. they plan on marrying in april next year.

zuhahmed
October 13th, 2004, 05:58 PM
just lies and more lies coming from your mouth, atleast i dont have a pregnant ass like u

pakboy
October 13th, 2004, 06:12 PM
yea your gona be pregnant after aprill when you get a sex change and your husband gives you one. lol

zuhahmed
October 13th, 2004, 07:22 PM
you have a pregnant ass. lol :bash: :cheers: :eek2:

pakboy
October 13th, 2004, 07:58 PM
you have a pregnant ass. lol :bash: :cheers: :eek2:



your engaged to a man, lol,:hug: yuck :puke: :dizzy::dizzy::dizzy::dizzy::dizzy: :weirdo: :runaway: :eek2:

your getting a sex change done. lol yuck :puke: :dizzy::dizzy::dizzy::dizzy: :eek2: :runaway: :weirdo:


if you dnt want me to expose you any further, take my advice, boota bund kar la.

cntower
October 13th, 2004, 11:12 PM
wow...this is low...

cntower
October 13th, 2004, 11:14 PM
Listen to Zuhahmed, I once had no control of my pants. After getting control of my pants problem my cities went from this:
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/8637/Centropolis-Oct19731097609064.jpg

To this:
http://img50.exs.cx/img50/3066/Centropolis-Oct19731097609029.jpg
http://img79.exs.cx/img79/2185/Centropolis-Oct19731097609002.jpg

The moral of the story is to watch those pants, and all that is under them. If you do success will follow.

WOW!

Is that the orig. SC4?

I play that one...and I wait for a long time until I see some highrises. It takes a while on SC4 if I'm not mistaken?

On Rush Hour you'll get highrises much quickly; and more of them as well!

STR
October 13th, 2004, 11:45 PM
^That's SC4:Rushhour. I've downloaded a couple of buildings from simtropolis( e.g. Sears Tower, the Art Deco building with the pyramid top) , and a couple of mods that make the sim more realistic (pathfinding fix, road top mass transit), but most of those towers are default buildings.

It's my best city yet. I'll post a few more pics in my own thread, as it has grown even more hi-rises since yesterday.

Sultan
October 15th, 2004, 02:57 AM
I'm playing the Deluxe version! :D

I'll try posting some pictures from my cities soon :)

SD40-mac
October 18th, 2004, 12:21 AM
You're using SC4 for sure. Only SC4 Rush Hour gives a reason for abandonment, not SC4 the original.

rbhriuthbu1234
October 19th, 2004, 11:58 PM
Is yack mate helping?

pakboy
October 20th, 2004, 05:31 PM
no i havnt installed it yet, im waiting for rush hour, getting it soon.