Wow - during lunch I decided to look at the development application for Vision tower at BCC.
Its Level one, 69 Ann street if you want to check it out - Ask for Development application number 902442.

Anyway Vision is amazing - some fantastic A3 renders and heaps of pictures + plans, well everything!!!

Anyway what impressed me most was the images of Vision tower on Brisbane skyline in the future - Wow!!!
What amazed me even more is that they have included all other buildings in their renderings that are either underconstruction, proposed and planned. They have also included heaps of buildings that we have no idea about - there are at least 6 or 7 proposals of around 200m that we have no idea abou but are in the renderings including a beautifull office tower of about 200m at Eagle St Wharf and a government office tower on the corner of Alice and William street that looked about 220m. There are plenty of other towers going up if those renderings are correct.

Anyway check it out and be amazed!!!

Just thought I'd share this with my fellow Brisvegans:)

JatT

7 200m towers? :S

That seems unlikely. Not that id complain lol!

I might try to get a pic.... if not ill just see myself on wednesday.


Now JayT. I want u to be 100% honest here.. Be modest for bris. You HONESTLY saw alot of new big buildings. be PESSAMISTIC. WORST CASE lol.

can anyone get pics ? I'm guessing that those extra towers JayT speaks of are more of a vision of what the city could look like rather than current DAs ?????

I would agree except that i dont see why theyd do that. When people make renders like that they usually try to get good impressions by showing what it would really look like... which adding in alot of non-existant buildings wont do.

I would agree except that i dont see why theyd do that. When people make renders like that they usually try to get good impressions by showing what it would really look like... which adding in alot of non-existant buildings wont do.

To show that their 250m building doesn't have a huge IMPACT...

I might try to get a pic.... if not ill just see myself on wednesday.


Now JayT. I want u to be 100% honest here.. Be modest for bris. You HONESTLY saw alot of new big buildings. be PESSAMISTIC. WORST CASE lol.

There were lots of A3 renderings of Brisbane.
One with Current Buildings
One with Under Construction Buildings
One with Approved Buildings
One with Proposed Buildings - it was the Proposed that shocked me!

Each 4 stages are viewed from different areas of the city including:
Gaza Road entrance.
Kangaroo Point
ICB in Bowen Hills
Southbank
Story Bridge
=so there are about 20 or so colour renders.

From what I remember.
Big glass office building where eagle st pier is.
Very Big office building near Parliament House - corner William and Alice.
Another huge tower to the west of Vison on Albert St
A huge tower next to Aurora where the blood bank is.
Emerald was with the proposed as well.
Another huge tower called 'sarina russo' on Eagle St.
Very tall tower towering over Riverside called Riverside II.
^^^
All of the above looked 200m or over!

There were many many smaller towers of between 100 and 200.
Looks like Skyline tower will have some competition height wise.
Lots of new towers around the Western end of the city - Roma St.

Oh - the renderings of Brisbane square are amazing!

The whole point was to look at Vison and there are some amazing A3 renderings of that tower too. The thinner sides of the tower look awsome and the spire is very wide (looks about 3 or 4 meters wide) and is kind of sculptured all the way from near the bottom of the tower to the top with it thinning at the last 20m or so.

All in all we are in for a big future!!!

jt

Wow, that just sounds awesome. Wish Townsville had a 200m building but that seems unlikely.

it seems impossible at this stage lol.

cool JayT. Borrow the UQ camera tomorow and show us some pics

it seems impossible at this stage lol.

cool JayT. Borrow the UQ camera tomorow and show us some pics
See what I can do.
As I said earlier you can see for your self by going to Level one, 69 Ann street if you want to check it out - Ask for Development application number 902442.

It costs $10.75 if you want to copy images - up to 17 can be copied but they are all A3 so I am not sure how much that would cost.

jt

i just replied to the guy from Buchan.. since they did the archicteture and the renders.. Seeing if they made them up or not.

sounds too good to be true. how would they know what is proposed that we haven't heard of? Maybe they are educated guesses based on current market conditions.

Having said that I've been wondering if we are about to see an office boom. I saw a rental rate chart which had been flat for ages and spiked significantly last few months.

Also note that Sydney currently has 7 buildings over 200m, so maybe we are looking at a guess at what Brisbane may be like in 20 or 30 years.

unlikely jellyman.

Their most likely for now...

or made up.

I cant think of any other good reason (showing in 30 years time is stupid lol.. they cant make an accurate prediction)

JayT.. Were the towers detailed? or just like blank.

If they were detailed, why would they bother designing new towers in full for nothing?

unlikely jellyman.

Their most likely for now...

or made up.

I cant think of any other good reason (showing in 30 years time is stupid lol.. they cant make an accurate prediction)

JayT.. Were the towers detailed? or just like blank.

If they were detailed, why would they bother designing new towers in full for nothing?

No they were quite detailed.

jt

This might be possible: when Newman was trying to bring in his temporary city plan the Courier Mail stated that there were 3 applications made before it was to be implemented; their was Vision and the Red Cross site owned by Kevin Seymours company (which I wasn't expecting to be very large), leaving one other site for something hopefully interesting. However, a few days later the Courier Mail reported that 5 had been put in....

It is pretty obvious that just before a plan that was to limit development was to be put in place a rush of projects which would not be possible under the city plan would be implemented, so this does make some sense.

It would be great to get a few more buildings arround Roma Street. My hope is that with a few great buldings (read "tall") might revitalise the area. My feeling is that we've got the density thing down well, and though a few talls would really add to the skyline, we now need to extend the CBD.

On a related not - that photo with the article about the 200km city in Primesite on Friday had me excited for a second or two - I thought it was a vision for the Brisbane of the future - looked like Sao Paulo or something!

perhaps some of the proposed scrapers in the render are scrapers built/proposed in overseas cities? It seems odd to me that they would have a bunch of renders from competing companies on development proposals that haven't been made public yet.

From the sounds of it, all of these extra buildings are in spots which may lend themselves to nice talls, most of them are sites that I am sure we have already heard that have been sold to developers. We know that Brisbane is becoming a great alternative to the southern states for Head Offices and I believe that the state government is working very hard to promote Brisbane this way, the Port Of Brisbane and BAC are expanding all the time, our population is rapidly increasing, the tourism industry is growing again and we are right in the middle of one of the busiest tourism zones in the country, the cruise ship terminal is underway, and inner city living is becoming increasingly popular........ OK I may have gone overboard, but why would all of this not be possible.

I agree with Jellyman that it does seem odd that they would have a bunch of renders from competing companies but is it not possible that some of the developers have tried to work together a little bit more given Campbells plans?

Just trying to stay positive.......

So is anyone going to check the Development application out at city council? As of yesterday only 3 people have looked at the application - including myself. Its quite easy all you have to do is go to the desk on level one of the BCC administration building and ask to look at development application 902442 then take it an perouse at your own leasure - they have desks and such that you can sit at like in a library. Just don't mix up the documents to much.

Its quick and easy if you are in the city - you can do it on your lunch break.

jt

I will try and get in there at lunch time, but I only have limited time and bugger it I dont have my Camera with me. I am dying to see it though.

From the sounds of it, all of these extra buildings are in spots which may lend themselves to nice talls, most of them are sites that I am sure we have already heard that have been sold to developers. We know that Brisbane is becoming a great alternative to the southern states for Head Offices and I believe that the state government is working very hard to promote Brisbane this way, the Port Of Brisbane and BAC are expanding all the time, our population is rapidly increasing, the tourism industry is growing again and we are right in the middle of one of the busiest tourism zones in the country, the cruise ship terminal is underway, and inner city living is becoming increasingly popular........ OK I may have gone overboard, but why would all of this not be possible.

I agree with Jellyman that it does seem odd that they would have a bunch of renders from competing companies but is it not possible that some of the developers have tried to work together a little bit more given Campbells plans?

Just trying to stay positive.......

As I have said before.

They are more than likely just made up buildings with made up heights. They would be situated on sites with development potential however. What they are doing doen't seem odd at all. What they are probably trying to portray is, "I might be 250m tall, but I do not stick out like dog's balls. Please don't reject me, I'm just like any of the other towers likely to be planned in the near (10 years) future". Make sense?

Sure, it's one thing not showing the surrounding developments, such that investors think that they will get great views. But this is to the council, who don't give a sh!t about that really (as investors).

If I was anyone here, I would not get to heated up about all of these 200m+ towers. They are made up.

just viewed plans online.
looks great'.
some interesting stats
tower size 30mx 51m. very similar to Q1! Q1 measures 38m x51m.
So Vision is very slim indeed!
only the first 14 levels are office! they have floor -floor that measures 4.1m high. this podium section stops at approx 60m high.
Then the top 60 floors are apartments which measure exactly 3m per floor.
the roof of the highest apartment floor (72) is 225m. the actual rooftop is 243m, fins-246m.

So Vision will have the second highest apartments in Australia.

The highest apartment in Q1 is 217m above ground level, Vision has apartments at 219 and 222m above ground level (Eureka: 275m :-)

I went to have a look at the online plans at BCC's website but it costs $10 - stuff that.

Good for Brisbane !

Definitely growing heaps old Queensland ey !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Photocopied some A3 images of Vision at BCC today - will endeavour to scan some in as soon as I can - over the next few days.

Looks Great - also met another skyscraper fan there too;)

JayT

Just got back from viewing the DA, unfortunately only had very limited time to look. Well it certainly has some fantastic renders and the floorplans for the units look to be a fairly decent size. One thing I will say is that Vision looks fantastic, of course, Brisbane Square looks even better than in other renders, Skyline and 475 Adelaide St complement eachother very nicely.

The 'Proposed' buildings were not all that crash hot, most were quite boxy but there seemed to be lots of glass and I will resign myself to them being made up, the individual designs were not that exciting. It did hint at the future Brisbane and I recommend to anyone that can should go in and have a look for yourself. One thing that I do find a little disappointing is that even if only half of these buildings go ahead, our previous tallest, CP1, looks like it will fade into the background.

Im going for a look tomorow.

GMAC - Think of it like this... it will always be a classic! like the woolworth building in NYC (just using the most obvious example i cna think of)

Even if the designs are made up, since those 5 things were rushed into the council before newmans new thing came in, they must be fairly significant for thme to have bothered?
Hopefully that red cross site AND the eagle st pier sites arent wasted.

Well its Imagestation so please resize these images if you can. The originals are quite large.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid141/p9afde252b3287765e647068803d5939b/f6c23e40.jpg
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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid141/pccf7222044d6b1a9ddcf504eb12936c2/f6c23e3c.jpg
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jt

very amazing. So those are basically real towers, but only possibilities. Since they have names/owners for all the towers. bris would look amazing

Notional future potential :-) They just didn't want it to stick out so much :-) still looks pretty awesome.

that big building near parliament is an actual proposal according to that scan.

that big building near parliament is an actual proposal according to that scan.
Yes I noticed that, its a State Government Tower. Looks about 200m too.

Also it looks like 475 Adelaide St will be abou the same size as Skyline Tower to roof with a spire on top!

jt

here you go. Your resizes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Blend/brisfutureresize1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Blend/brisfuture2resize.jpg

Wow thanks - I'll try to get the other pics scanned and uploaded in the next few days.

jt

my favourite is waterfront place 2

wot an amazing skyscraper canyon it will b going down eagle street if all goes ahead

lol what IS the point of the austcorp people making the second one. It doesnt even show vision lol

Emerald Tower looks awesome in the skyline. It MUST go ahead!!

Yes this all looks amazing...and I hope we do eventually get all these buildings, but isnt anyone else concerned that the layout is going to make the city seem even more lop sided, and the state government proposal is going to stick out? The balance is already way off, and this will just make it worse no?

Thanks for the scans JayT. Looking forward to the rest. :)

Quote of M01lim

"Yes this all looks amazing...and I hope we do eventually get all these buildings, but isnt anyone else concerned that the layout is going to make the city seem even more lop sided, and the state government proposal is going to stick out? The balance is already way off, and this will just make it worse no?""



I think Vision bridges the "gap" between the Eagle St Golden Triangle area, and the George St talls on the other side of town.

The buildings that have made Brisbane lop sided are the Admiralty, etc buildings at Petrie Bight.

how is it m01?

Brisbane square, brisbane square 2, that tower on tank st, the government tower..

that one on the corner of albert and margaret, and vision. all dragging the skyline across.

As much as I would still like it to go ahead, I do think Emerald kind of sticks out a little much if the other proposals around it dont go ahead. Everything else I am happy with.

One other point that kind of detracts from the excitement is that the building labeled Bank of Queensland is addressed as corner of Edward and Elizabeth(which you cant actually see on the scan), does this mean that this is just an old proposal for the Macarthur site, or does this mean what I hope it means and the other Bank of Queensland building next to Elio's Menswear(and therefore including Elio's) will be another tall?

Any thoughts?

the riverside centre stuck out like dogs balls when it was first built back in the day... now its as big as a gym junkies dick on steroids

I have to agree. Vision is fantastic. I just checked it out on www.emporis.com (my fav website for pics) and i was stunned with the amount of appeal it had to me!

You feral bitch.

???

I think he was pertaining to danubis' post :bash:

Well it certainly served to answer my question as to what's worse than your, say, garden variety bitch.

Well it certainly served to answer my question as to what's worse than your, say, garden variety bitch.

Yeah...that makes sense.

Wow, That future Brisbane Pic is awesome. Did you do that blend or was it somebody else's made up pic or Found it the paper etc.

JayT found it. The developers for vision made it to go along with their own renders.

Cool, either way. Brisbane will Kinda look like that in the future. But not exactly like that.

...One other point that kind of detracts from the excitement is that the building labeled Bank of Queensland is addressed as corner of Edward and Elizabeth(which you cant actually see on the scan), does this mean that this is just an old proposal for the Macarthur site, or does this mean what I hope it means and the other Bank of Queensland building next to Elio's Menswear(and therefore including Elio's) will be another tall?

Any thoughts?

Bank of Qld is moving offices to the Macarthur tower, which will be renamed The BoQ centre.

BoQ I think would not be looking for anything else, given they have just signed this long term lease.

Speaking of which, I noticed a BoQ neon being fixed to the top of the building last week (Queen St side)

They have an option in the lease to more floors, should it be required. The old building will still house its outsource partner EDS. 229 Elizabeth street (the old BoQ building) was only leased.

Was ammused reading this thread (especially the first 2 pages)

thought I'd share.

Frustrating to think we were talking about Vision 3 years ago, and the site is still just dirt.

OMG - I was so excited back then - LOL.

Now we have so many going on its like - "just another big tower proposal".

LOL - great read.

J

:lol:

Lots of "Wow"s and "OMG"s. lol

Can a mod please move this to everything else.

Cheers

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