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marcin954 June 19th, 2011, 01:15 AM Recently I discovered Baltic's sand spits as valuable destination for my next continental travel.
I have short question regarding Curonian Spit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_Spit) - Kuršių nerija.
This sand spit going towards north and finally finishes at the front of Klaipėda's harbour. Curonian Bay is divided by Russia and Lithuania (as Vistula Bay between Poland and Russia).
I want to know how Government of Lithuania sorted the issue of free navigation of vessels through the strait. I meant about how Russian's vessels can sail thought the strait towards their ports located by Curonian Bay.
I'm asking because I'm not happy how Polish government sorted that problem in Vistula Bay. Russians makes a lot of problems with everything as usual.
whatever... June 19th, 2011, 04:31 AM I want to know how Government of Lithuania sorted the issue...
http://www.kam.lt/images/thumbnail/?id=12724;w=1240;h=566;
On a serious note, i have no idea, but i doubt if it was even an "issue" since afaik there are no marinas on Russian side that could properly accommodate yachts or speedboats (hence no traffic from their side) and i can't find a reason why would Lithuanians want to sail/go to a series of rundown towns on Russian side, when there's plenty of marinas and lovely, well-kept/great service towns with stuff to do and places to eat at, on our side.
PeoplePower June 19th, 2011, 04:35 AM http://www.kam.lt/images/thumbnail/?id=12724;w=1240;h=566;
On a serious note, i have no idea, but i doubt if it was even an "issue" since afaik there are no marinas on Russian side that could properly accommodate yachts or speedboats (hence no traffic from their side) and i can't find a reason why would Lithuanians want to sail/go to a series of rundown towns on Russian side, when there's plenty of marinas and lovely, well-kept/great service towns with stuff to do and places to eat at, on our side.
How does russian side look like? Bad?
manrush June 19th, 2011, 07:26 AM ^^
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marcin954 June 19th, 2011, 09:03 AM http://www.kam.lt/images/thumbnail/?id=12724;w=1240;h=566;
On a serious note, i have no idea, but i doubt if it was even an "issue" since afaik there are no marinas on Russian side that could properly accommodate yachts or speedboats (hence no traffic from their side) and i can't find a reason why would Lithuanians want to sail/go to a series of rundown towns on Russian side, when there's plenty of marinas and lovely, well-kept/great service towns with stuff to do and places to eat at, on our side.
I'm in trouble to understand what have you typed but I think you said there are no sensible reasons why Lithuanians might sail downwards to Russian part of Curonian Lagoon. Ok but what about their vessels? They can sail free to southern part of lagoon or not?
Can you have look for any act regarding that issue? Has any bilateral agreement been signed? Russian got used to force another nations to their rights disregarding for their point of view. I don't think so Russians could drag their military vessels throught the strait at the front of main Lithuanian harbour but what about regarding different types of vessels like yachts, ferries etc? Non military ones and no government ones.
Polish government have been considering regards digging a channel across Vistula Spit to enable easier and less stressful navigation in Vitula Lagoon. That plan was brought forward to 2017 because benefits could be lesser than losses. Nowadays touristic and trade navigation throught the Vistula Lagoon has been restored but Russian worship to create a problems - vessels from different countries have to report two weeks before they's cross the strait of Vistula Lagoon.
Warship looks nice. What's that?
whatever... June 20th, 2011, 03:57 AM I'm in trouble to understand what have you typed but I think you said there are no sensible reasons why Lithuanians might sail downwards to Russian part of Curonian Lagoon. Ok but what about their vessels? They can sail free to northern part of lagoon or not?
Can you have look for any act regarding that issue? Has any bilateral agreement been signed? Russian got used to force another nations to their rights disregarding for their point of view. I don't think so Russians could drag their military vessels throught the strait at the front of main Lithuanian harbour but what about regarding different types of vessels like yachts, ferries etc? Non military ones and no government ones.
Of what i could grasp from a couple of articles, there is an unwritten agreement of semi-free sailing in the lagoon. But Vessels would have to go through simplified border checks at the nearest marina upon entering Russia/Lithuania.
However, the agreement cannot be signed and implemented, due to lack of infrastructure and interest on the Russian side.
Polish government have been considering regards digging a channel across Vistula Spit to enable easier and less stressful navigation in Vitula Lagoon. That plan was brought forward to 2017 because benefits could be lesser than losses. Nowadays touristic and trade navigation throught the Vistula Lagoon has been restored but Russian worship to create a problems - vessels from different countries have to report two weeks before they's cross the strait of Vistula Lagoon.
The situation in Curonian Lagoon is different in a way that there is little to none traffic coming from Russian side. Only a bunch of small fishing villages and a couple of potential tourism towns have access to Curonian Lagoon in Russia, which is a stark difference to warship rich Vistula Lagoon.
Warship looks nice. What's that?
That's a Flyvefisken class vessel in service with Danish and Lithuanian navies. Lithuania has a few of them.
How does russian side look like? Bad?
Compared to Lithuania?
Saying "bad" would be an understatement.
taimis October 17th, 2011, 01:00 PM Some photos from the Curionian Spit, mainly around Nida.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3482/barg.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6622.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6629.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6630.jpg
The German cemetery in Nida.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6633.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6634.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6639.jpg__http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6652.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6646.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6649.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6651.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6653.jpg
taimis October 17th, 2011, 01:05 PM http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3482/barg.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6654.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6668.jpg
From the highest hill on the sands.. At least on the Lithuanian side.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6677.jpg
Rain about 1 minute away..
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6679.jpg
..and its raining!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6684.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6687.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6691.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6693.jpg
Back in the sun!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6702.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6722.jpg__http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6719.jpg
The Lithuanian/Russian border runs somewhere close. The peninsula sticking out to the left is already Kaliningrad.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_6733.jpg
taimis October 17th, 2011, 01:08 PM Lastly from a boat ride that takes you right up to the border (from the photo above) and back to Nida, a very pleasant and highly recommended attraction, especially in the evening when the sun is low.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_1970.jpg
Traditional ship that has sailed these waters back in the day.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_1973.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_1976.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Lietuva/DSC_1978.jpg
Artura Lithuania December 21st, 2011, 02:23 PM This is so beautiful place. I love my country Lithuania:cheers:
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