I've found this site http://www.angelfire.com/nv/207/

Urban Decay


I guess there are places like that in the Baltic region, so post pics of em.. does'nt have to be "ghettos", but i wanna see some decay (if there is any) from Norway, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Denmark and Sweden.. (& iceland ;) ) + ( could be "commieblocks" also ) ..

And yes im bored.. this forum is fucking dead :)


im not really enjoying seeing it.. im just curious

peace

I think that you want to see some photos from the smallest republic in our region. This republic is called Uzupis (Užupis). Btw in 2004.06.25 the president of Uzupis and Lithuanian minister of foreign affairs signed a treaty which guarantee good relationships between Lithuania and Uzupis.

Some photos from Uzupis:

http://img32.exs.cx/img32/6874/Fotogalerija_14x.jpg

http://img13.exs.cx/img13/5373/Fotogalerija_n1.jpg

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/2074/Fotogalerija_pr1.jpg

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/9835/motion512x384.jpg

http://img75.exs.cx/img75/9756/uzup_wb.jpg

http://img32.exs.cx/img32/9062/Uzupyje_02.jpg

http://img34.exs.cx/img34/8370/Uzupyje_03.jpg

http://img4.exs.cx/img4/2563/Uzupyje_04.jpg

http://img85.exs.cx/img85/4201/viln0020.jpg

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/6918/Vilnius-Uzupis2.jpg

Actually small unrestored, abandoned buildings, small river Vilnele and many other things makes Uzupis a very unique place in Vilnius. It's charming and it is the place for artists. Other more colourful views from Uzupis:
http://img43.exs.cx/img43/4117/uzupis.jpg

My avatar :) (restored part of Uzupis):
http://img5.exs.cx/img5/8863/PICT5064.jpg

http://img72.exs.cx/img72/3241/undin1.jpg

http://img3.exs.cx/img3/1663/dsuzupis.jpg

The Uzupis is changing quite fast and there are fears that it will loose its charm because of new buildings and restoration of old ones. If it was up to some artists and other people all those buildings which are in a bad conditions would be left as they are.

Good idea because otherwise there are few chances to see the "bad" places of our cities. Just don't hesitate to post all the "worst" things you've got.


I'm usually not posting pictures like this in SSC so this should be quite exclusive. The worst and the shabbiest places in Vilnius without any makeover. Vilnius Municipality Department of Tourism wouldn't be thankful to me ;)
anyway, most of those places are living their last days


Snipiskes district, view from the new Municipality building. That's where the new city center of Vilnius is being dveloped. Middle of nowhere? Maybe, but I'd say middle of a junkyard :D
Photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/Vilnius/VF_Sznip_2003_0316_2.jpg

Snipiskes (Sznipiszki) was built in the 20's and 30's of 20th century and didn't change much since then. The idea of "New City Center" is to redevelop the entire area. Europa Square was the initial step although there is alot more to do and now the mayor can enjoy the view from his office on the 19th floor :)

photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/Vilnius/VF_Sznip_2003_0316_1.jpg

photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/NMC/01810004.jpg

photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/NMC/05220007.jpg

photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/Sznipiszkes/00440013.jpg

photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/Sznipiszkes/01850017.jpg

photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/Sznipiszkes/05220010.jpg



rest (c) John

in the old town
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_0614.jpg

unused pedestrian bridge over River Neris
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_1282.jpg

Uzupis district (old town)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_1901.jpg

view from the former "Revolution museum"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_3287.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_3291.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_3293.jpg

the old sports arena, it's about to be demolished or rebuilt to a conference center
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_3797.jpg


near Coca Cola Plaza cinema and construction site of Helios Tower
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_3930.jpg


Zverynas Bridge (currently under heavy restoration, wasn't restored since it was built i.e. for the last 100 years or so)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_5254.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_5252.jpg


near the NCC, currently hotel construction is underway in the place
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/meetup052.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/meetup053.jpg



any comments? :)

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Some time I ago I advocated that Snipskes (sp?) area should be renovated, but after getting a really good close look I'm not so sure anymore. Maybe it's better if NCC spreads little bit. :)

And another bizarre thing: I seem to have some love / hate relationship with Europa Tower. Sometimes I think its design has something missing, right now I'm liking it again!


Here's supposedly the worst place you can find from Helsinki: Jakomäki suburb in eastern Helsinki. Its residents have the lowest income per person in the city and the crime rate is above the average.

all pics copyright (c) that website


http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/kasit1.jpg



http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/kuusetalo3.jpg



Library

http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/kirjasto1.jpg




Post and video rental

http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/posti1.jpg




Local shopping mall

http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/ostari1.jpg




http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/270602jmt6g36.jpg



http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/280403jakis30.jpg



http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/280403jakis82.jpg



Notice the suburbian pub. :)

http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/290902jakis07.jpg


Copy paste to get the pics function properly. Alternatively, you can go to the website: http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/2000luku.htm - http://www.angelfire.com/film/jakomaki/2000luku13.htm
Luckily(?), Jakomäki is far from downtown.

@Ober
In fact I've never been deeper inside to Snipiskes but the current area of Europa Square looked quite the same as those other pictures with huts

this is the plan of development (the new one with buildings "no taller than ET" ), they plan to leave a quarter of those huts and make it residential or entertainment zone, of course restoring everything
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/snipiskez.jpg




Here's supposedly the worst place you can find from Helsinki
A while agot I watched Kaurismaki's "The man Without a Past" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0311519/) (it's a good film, btw) and some places shown there were a bit (to put it mildly) worse looking than this, although I have no much idea if those places were real and if so, where were they located. Any ideas?

Haven't seen it myself, though I know Kaurismäki has a knack for finding depressing filming locations. All I could find from the net were vague "somewhere in the outskirts of Helsinki". Maybe it was filmed in different (warehouse / light industrial?) areas in different places in the region? Sorry, can't really tell without seeing the movie -- not neccessarily even after that.


EDIT:
"Elokuvassa eletään Sompasaaressa Kulosaaren ja Sörnäisten välimaastossa keskellä yhteisöä, josta hyvinvoivat ihmiset eivät ole kuullutkaan. Ihmiset asuvat konteilla, joihin saa jopa sähköä, tongeilla tolpasta"

Yeah, found it!

Sompasaari is the place. It used to be a tiny island just off the coast, but now it's part of the Sörnäinen cargo harbour that is to be developed into a residential area after the new harbour in Vuosaari opens.


http://www.digicamera.net/galleria/k_olympus/images/sompasaari.jpg


http://www.fimr.fi/stc/itamerikanta/imagebank/19/233.jpg


http://www.hel.fi/port/images/matkustajaliikenne/sornainen/sornainenilmakuva.jpg

damn, that truly is bad

thanks for sharing

I've also been talking in favour of perhaps restoring some of those areas behind ET, but now that I see the shape they are in my mind is altered...;)

We don't have much grit really. There are some buildings here and there that has been left to the forces of mother nature, but that is often because those houses are in private hands and have some historical value, hence it's preserved. Those who own those houses allow them to deteriorate so much that it is impossible to fix them. Then they have an excuse to tear them down and build new apartments instead. Funny isn't it?

Here are the only houses I found in a bad shape in all my extensive walks this spring. From Gamlebyen.

http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26293025.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26293062.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26293069.jpg

When we are talking about bad residential areas in general, Romsås, that is located about 30 minutes on the metro east of downtown, is perhaps as bad as it gets in Oslo. A few years ago, the area was haunted with alot of crime, but I've understood that things have gotten better lately. And many of the buildings there are now in much better shape than they used to. It has been more run-down than these images show.

http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4734088_1_611_67117397_0611.jpg

http://cache.finn.no/mmo/nordstrandremax170401603057731_1-b.jpg

Although it's not grit perhaps, Ammerud is not exactly desireable eighter.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4708781_1_2753_67117280_2753.jpg

http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4728704_1_0_1391246_ammerudgrenda_172_blokka.jpg

http://cache.finn.no/mmo/dnb3100131042774101402_131042771.jpg

Alnabru is really depressing. It's just motorways, huge 2 story warehouses and some industry.
http://www.erikengen.com/bilder/alnabru_morgen1.JPG


As I said...we don't have much grit:)

yes u have :)..

i've acctually seen more from Oslo then Stockholm..

But the commieblocks are similar to the swedish

yes u have :)..
i've acctually seen more from Oslo then Stockholm..


Hmm, where did you see that? I can't say I've every come across any really bad areas, and I've lived here for 4 years. It's all a matter of definition I guess. All of the inner east was in pretty bad shape in the early 80'ies, but it has changed radically.

no i just mean i've seen more "grit" in Oslo than in stockholm(does'nt have to mean poor, BAD areas)

u wont find these (http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26293069.jpg) for example in Malmö or Stockholm innercity.. maybe a lil' bit outside (?).. But the "commieblocks" in Oslo looks to be in good condition

no i just mean i've seen more "grit" in Oslo than in stockholm(does'nt have to mean poor, BAD areas)

u wont find these (http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26293069.jpg) for example in Malmö or Stockholm innercity.. maybe a lil' bit outside (?).. But the "commieblocks" in Oslo looks to be in good condition

Okay I see:) Yeah, we do have some buildings like that scattered around, but they are not many. I have only seen those I photographed plus a few others, and the reason they are like that is often spaculative, as I mentioned. Further out from the center, like at the Alna area I showed, there are probably alot of abandoned garages and stuff, I find most of that area, or most of Groruddalen acctually to be a sad place.

The reason the commieblocks are in such good shape is that, unlike housing projects in most other countries, ours are made with the intention of the people living there to own their own apartment. Therefore people are more interested in keeping their building and neighbourhood in a good shape, to make sure their apartment is valuable. Also the state hands out cheap loans for communities/cooperatives ("Borettslag") that want to renovate.

Ok, what about Lavian and Estonian "bad" stuff? I really know there is something to be "proud" of as well :)

northstar : alright :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_5252.jpg
any comments? :)
They forgot a K in "AmeriKKKa". ;)
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Let's see if I can find a few Sthlm pics in my on-line collection...
http://w1.875.telia.com/~u87519939/20040611/PICT0045b.JPG
only one I could find right now, I should try to take more photos of stuff like that :)

Yeah i agreee..

u must have some in Kista :)

maybe this one from rågsved:

http://www.ragsved.com/images/Dscn1681.jpg
http://www.ragsved.com/images/Dscn2557.jpg

I found something more from Vilnius. the most terrible place in the whole Vilnius and perhaps whole Lithuania. Gipsy camp... oh no, they're called Romas now!

In Lithuanian this place is known as "taboras" what basically is a quarter with some terribly looking huts and typical gipsy "order", few hundred of gipsies live there. It's located in the Southern part of Vilnius, not far away from the airport.
They don't pay any taxes to the government and they don't have any official incomes, none of them has an official job (!), although don't be surprised to see some of them driving a Mercedes Benz S600. They're not poor, not at all, drug-business was running efficiently for decades. It's all about their mentality.

A few days ago the municipality of Vilnius built a police office and installed watching-cameras in the camp territory. After few days the new police office was set on fire :crazy:

no wonder why people don't love gipsies too much here :)

pictures
photos from www.roma.lt (it seems they even got their website!)

http://www.roma.lt/articles/att_files/51_image.jpg

http://www.roma.lt/articles/att_files/52_image.jpg

http://www.roma.lt/articles/att_files/58_image.jpg

http://www.roma.lt/articles/att_files/68_image.jpg

http://www.roma.lt/articles/att_files/139_image.jpg

http://www.roma.lt/articles/att_files/138_image.jpg

http://www.roma.lt/articles/att_files/141_image.jpg

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Here are some more of my not-so-nice ones

This is Blitz, this house was occupied by a group of anarchists in the 80'ies. They still occupy it, they have their own concert-scene, cafe, radio, record shop etc in there. I was there once when I was 16 and it scared the shit out of me then to see all that grafitti and dirt that was inside, not to mention all the strange people :lol:
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/24172922.jpg

Here is another occupied house, Haussmania
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26560368.jpg

"Her slutter Norge" = Norway stops here
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26560367.jpg

in Belgrade there is gypsy paper village right in front of new financial district and intercontinental and hyatt hotels. It looks very bad and is located by the river. They will be moved into some new buildings for homeless people.

btw most of such things in Belgrade have been demolished last year and new residential buildings were constructed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/johngang/decay/IMG_1901.jpg

^
Lets hope it isn't so!
I would never demolish such things. Just fix & renovate them.

Yes, it would be a terrible mistake to demolish this. The problem is that owners are not doing anything with such property and municipality is unable to do anything more than just fine them.

in Vracar municipallity many many similar buildings have been demolished and I must say I don`t regret. Those were some ugly houses which were abandoned and it looked like some village house in beetwen of urban city construction.

If you were in charge and you have this question:should we renovate that old ugly building which has only walls and give money or sell it to investor for money who will built residential building with very nice apartments what would you choose. Btw you are governing town in EE not some extra rich city.

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Yeah, may be Riga has more grit than shown here.
Sometimes we need a kind of "purification" to show that Baltic states after all really are among the most poor countries in EU. And Latvia has got even more problems than its neighbours. This unwritten mood of competition among Baltic states sometimes seems as something very unnecessary and burdening. Yes, lots of nice things happen here, fine and not so fine buildings are built here. But lots of poor people live in their sad housing here as well... and unfortunately will live for at least decade to come.


Sorry, after these sentences I have nothing to show. Somehow I tend to walk in the nicest parts of my city and to take nice pictures for postcards which would be never printed. At the same time I understand that in reality I have nothing to prove to the other world. Yes, I am living in a not so rich country. I am tired that in Western world news very often there is shown only the dark side of the life in my country. And to counterweight it I tend to show the bright side of it. Even more stupid it is to enter in fight with neighbouring countries which have had exactly the same fate as my country did (although in this forum we do well together... more or less).
Nope. We are only humans slowly fighting back to normal life after strange, inhumane nightmare. To satisfy our needs or even to show to the other world our "ego" we may be will build a dozen or more highrises over the next decade. And this will be nice spectacle :) But this will not turn us into something more than just human beings...

Very good speech Gatis!

wow, gatis, what a emotional speech! Yes, sadly, we, together with poland, are the poorest :(, but we'll keep going! Why i mentioned Poland, is because it fits in the category excellently too, my class just made a trip to a conference about the Baltic sea in Poland, well, they sayd all the places they went to, seemed very soviet, sadly, thats also apparent on the pics just a pic : http://www.21k.ee/galerii/images/db811f61a21797b19cc96a087c53c0a2.jpg Ofcourse they were in a small city. Pretty much what im saying isthat apart from the capitals of the baltic states and the bigger city's the country side is still very poor :(.

Ok, nice speeches all, but what about some pictures? :D

sounds like a good idea :)

Taken minutes ago near the old sports and concerts hall of Vilnius. A big note on the wall says "GRAFFITI IS ILLEGAL!", just in case you didn't know :D
http://img37.exs.cx/img37/737/IMG_6941.jpg

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wow, gatis, what a emotional speech! Yes, sadly, we, together with poland, are the poorest :(, but we'll keep going! Why i mentioned Poland, is because it fits in the category excellently too, my class just made a trip to a conference about the Baltic sea in Poland, well, they sayd all the places they went to, seemed very soviet, sadly, thats also apparent on the pics just a pic : http://www.21k.ee/galerii/images/db811f61a21797b19cc96a087c53c0a2.jpg Ofcourse they were in a small city. Pretty much what im saying isthat apart from the capitals of the baltic states and the bigger city's the country side is still very poor :(.

Just curious which city in Poland on the Baltic your school visited. I've spent a good amount of time on the Baltic in Poland and would be interested in city pics. Not that I don't agree with you but the picture of what seems to be school children performing a play is a very poor example and does not prove your point.

rrr, proves my point of Soviet style...... but since u havent, obviously, been through all that, u wouldnt understand... its surely not about city's appearance, but soviet style imo.

How can we differ a soviet style? What are the characteristics in your opinion..

Oh guys you cant deny that this photo is a proof that soviet Poland still exists:

http://strony.aster.pl/aligapa/soviet poland.jpg


BTW Its very similiar photo to concert of another well known soviet singer:


http://www.madonnanewera.com/galeria/Koncerty/2004%20%20RE%20INVENTION%20TOUR/06.%20Papa%20Dont%20Preach%20-%20Crazy%20For%20You%20-%20Music%20-%20Holiday%20(67%20zdjec)/003.jpg

BUEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHE ;) God...Paolo..that was great:D

god, stop it. that pic seemed soviet to me, and all the guys who went there confirmed it, now dont tell me that your country side isnt outdated and not as modern as warsaw or some other major city in Poland?

god, stop it. that pic seemed soviet to me, and all the guys who went there confirmed it, now dont tell me that your country side isnt outdated and not as modern as warsaw or some other major city in Poland?

I confirm Polish countrysite is not so modern as Warsaw is .

Btw. Which town did you visit???

omst or something

omst or something

Omst - that's not obviously in Poland
Something - I wasn't there but I've heard that they've nice and long, sandy beach :lol:

god, stop it. that pic seemed soviet to me, and all the guys who went there confirmed it, now dont tell me that your country side isnt outdated and not as modern as warsaw or some other major city in Poland?

How ridiculous...how can you compare the countryside of in any nation to its city? I'm still waiting for city name or photos to prove your point...otherwise I have no idea what the hell you are talking about by showing me pics of kids who look like any european children. Perhaps if we had some asians, blacks, latinos mixed in the picture, in the same exact clothing, it wouldn't look so soviet.

Where are the pictures of "grit" in those last 10 messages?? :)

How ridiculous...how can you compare the countryside of in any nation to its city? I'm still waiting for city name or photos to prove your point...otherwise I have no idea what the hell you are talking about by showing me pics of kids who look like any european children. Perhaps if we had some asians, blacks, latinos mixed in the picture, in the same exact clothing, it wouldn't look so soviet.

hmm. did u read my post? Plz. swallow your Polish pride :sleepy:

hmm. did u read my post? Plz. swallow your Polish pride :sleepy:

I think it is not matter of Polish pride but rather everyone is curiuos which town is so Soviet in Poland . If we get name of this misterious town, we will be able to rate your opinion. Try to understand us , You show a part of Poland as a soviet region , but you don't give us examples. Belive me speaking in General way is rude!!! So could You tell us where You was ???

god, stop it. that pic seemed soviet to me, and all the guys who went there confirmed it,

You know why a picture of school girls dancing looked soviet to you ? Because you have repressed mind, you were raised in the SOVIET UNION hence any gathering showing joy and any public performance automatically equals soviet behaviour in your mind.

Nobody in my country would ever associate this with soviet behaviour, looks, feels or anything else. Nobody outside of the SOVIET UNION would. Only those who come from the former Soviet Union may have such idiotic connotations.

In psychology such behaviour is called a conditional theory, your past stimuli are forcing certain associations or connotations.

Where are the pictures of "grit" in those last 10 messages?? :)

Also, I had no idea Poland and Serbia lied in the Nordic Region... Well, I know better now.

if u wanna discuss get the hell outta here... haha, no just kidding..

but post pictures in this threadh and if u wanna discuss start another one

Also, I had no idea Poland and Serbia lied in the Nordic Region... Well, I know better now.

So what do you mean?

I just mean, without wanting to be mean, that the title was "in NORDIC Region", but I'm not a mod or an ad, so, uh basically... nothing.

Oh guys you cant deny that this photo is a proof that soviet Poland still exists:

http://strony.aster.pl/aligapa/soviet poland.jpg


BTW Its very similiar photo to concert of another well known soviet singer:


http://www.madonnanewera.com/galeria/Koncerty/2004%20%20RE%20INVENTION%20TOUR/06.%20Papa%20Dont%20Preach%20-%20Crazy%20For%20You%20-%20Music%20-%20Holiday%20(67%20zdjec)/003.jpg

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OK, back OT, I just read now in Aftenposten that some of the "drabantbyer" in Oslo east are decaying, and that the standard of living is going down.
* Parks are not maintained
* Much tagging
* Public offices shut down
* Commercial activity move out

They particulary focus on a drabantby called Haugenstua(I didn't even know where this was), where aparently most of the buildings suffer from visible decay.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00231/141593a047_1071754__231182h.jpg

The article: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article894528.ece

Almost the only thing that remains, the post office
http://gul.no/bilder/22083.jpg

http://www.astrup.no/oslo/astrup.nsf/bilder/718160832BBF62D1C1256D43002EA3AF/$FILE/fasade.jpg

Some pictures I found from Haugenstua, in ads for apartments for sale, hence they are in the best possible light.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4756255_1_0_garverfor.jpg

http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4755382_1_1413_117450730_1413.jpg

http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4683552_13_0_bilder_haugenstua_001.jpg

dudes take it easy he really didnt mean nothing with the soviet remarc ...oh and by the way we werent brought up in a soviet society the soviet rule ended in 1992 and we were born in 1988 so we basicly dont even remember the union days ...oh and by the way your towns in the northern region are soviet looking just take a look at the northern alley (the road that goes from latvia to germany in the north of the polish country side although i admit my parents are a bit soviet minded my mom is russian and my dad is half german half latvian but ch1les are scottish and estonian so that means that he doesnt have a drop of soviet propaganda in his blood :rant: :rant: :rant: :nono: :poke: :soapbox: dont mess with the bull of you dont like the horns .........by the way im really sorry if i pissed somebody off or offended you guys but that soviet remarc pissed me off seriously

jacek you dunno c**p about the former soviet countrys so shut the hell up

I must say the heat is really on in this thread... :bash:

I'll say...

oops we created an international incident :bash: :poke: :)

ok im uppin' this

please, little less conversation - little more action :)

Is it better to be a Soviet or someone's who's being controlled by Soviets?


Is it better to be a slave master or a slave?

please post pics or shut the fuck up..

no disrespecting

Some pictures from the area I live in in Martinlaakso, Vantaa, Finland, taken from the homepage of Martinlaakso:

These houses were built in the very late 60's to early 70's:

http://www.martinlaakso.info/ertasa00.jpg
This one was restored in the 90's and looks better now but several others like it still remain.

http://www.martinlaakso.info/ml-korj05x.jpg

http://www.martinlaakso.info/ml-korj06.jpg

http://www.martinlaakso.info/ml-korj09x.jpg

http://www.martinlaakso.info/ml-korj09ax.jpg
Unfortunately there are still buildings looking like this here but some of these have been given a facelift and here's a picture just to show you how one of theese green houses looks like today:
http://www.martinlaakso.info/ml-korj04x.jpg

"Martinlaakso is also the hometown of two F1-drivers Mika Häkkinen and Mika Salo!"

PC : thanks for sharing.

:)

this thread is going up.

http://aeonflux.exctazy.org/brl/misc/welcome_to_sweden.mpg


Ok, hm.. this is a movie about the situation in Rosengård, a "ghetto" outside Malmö. This was sended in Fox News on american television some time ago.

^that was interesting, thanks! is the situation really that bad??

Here's a VERY interesting site with pictures and information on abandoned and rundown place in Helsinki metro area: http://www.silentwall.com/SouthFin.html
some of those have been demolished, but it's interesting.

a few examples:

office building in Pitäjänmäki (north Helsinki)
http://www.silentwall.com/PitajanMonsterPicture26.jpg

toxic suburb of Alakiventie in Myllypuro (east Helsinki):
http://www.silentwall.com/AlakivenPicture20.jpg

Water purification plant in Kyläsaari:
http://www.silentwall.com/KylasaariWaterPicture9.jpg

HAKA's concrete factory in Vantaanpuisto (west Vantaa):
http://www.silentwall.com/ParmaPicture1.jpg

PPOBBO : oh i remember that..
fox news are some racist bastards.