When I was in Asia, I got the impression that there was some resentment/dislike between Japan/Korea/China of each other. Is this true or am I completely off my knocker? Do the Japanese really dislike the Chinese/Koreans, do the Koreans really dislike the Chinese/Japanese and do the Chinese really not like the Koreans/Japanese? If you live in an Asian nation how do you and other people in your country think of

China
Japan
Korea
Singapore
Malaysia
Vietnam
Indonesia
Taiwan
or any others that are significant...

My impression:

The Chinese generally like Koreans
The Chinese generally hate Japanese
The Koreans used to like the Chinese until the whole "Koguryo" issue came up
The Koreans absolutely hated the Japanese until recently - now I think there's more respect for them.
The Japanese used to look down upon the Koreans and the Chinese. Recently, that has decreased to negligible levels among the educated elite.

True. I think every Asian country hates how Japan is being viewed as the economic and cultural superpower in Western textbooks. Japan after WWII, are generally hated in Asia (esp. China+Korea). What makes it worse is that the Japanese people are decendents of China and Korea (evident in the emperors baekjae background).

Theres no real "hate" relationship between Korea and China. I doubt the "Koguryo" issue will last long.

Ya, we hate each other, so what? If u'd been livin' with ur wife for a couple years u probably didn't have problems with her but if u'd been livin' with her for a couple decades let's see if there would be no problems...

True. I think every Asian country hates how Japan is being viewed as the economic and cultural superpower in Western textbooks. Japan after WWII, are generally hated in Asia (esp. China+Korea). What makes it worse is that the Japanese people are decendents of China and Korea (evident in the emperors baekjae background).

Theres no real "hate" relationship between Korea and China. I doubt the "Koguryo" issue will last long.

The Japanese don't have much Chinese blood in them. IIRC, they're about half-and-half Korean and Malay.

And I think people are already starting to forget about Koguryo. Especially since the Chinese Government never publicized it within China...

I think the Japanese are ethnically Close to the Koreans and Northern Chinese. (Whereas the Southern Chinese are closer to Southeast Asians.) Aren't the Northeast Asians all decendants of Mongols?

It would make sense that the Koreans and Japanese are closer to each other genetically than the Chinese. Both the Korean and Japanese languages (as different as they are) are still arguably Altaic languages along with Manchurian and Mogolian where as Chinese seems to be a whole different world.

Yeah, lots of resentments about the Japanese in China, thats definitly incredibly apparent on the surface, especially, by certain members of the younger generation who seemed to have adopted the phrase "Japanese Demon" (RiBenGui) as a replacement for the term "Person of Japanese Nationality".

From my understanding from several studies concerning the ethnicity/DNA of
North East Asian:

Korean -
1) roughly 70-75% Nothern Mongoloid + 25-30% Southern Mongoloid + probably a few drops of Caucasoid, nevertheless the most homogenetic of the 3, relatively speaking
2) as close to Japanese as to Chinese: most probably related to the Dong-Yi people(s) who was one of the important tribes in the formation of early Chinese civilization in prehistoric time

Japanese -
Mongoloid (mostly from/via Korea + some from China & East Siberia) + Micronesian/SE Asian + Ainu (the indigenous people: some studies indicate they're a divergence from Northern Mongoloid, but some claim that they're Caucasoid)

Chinese -
1) predominantly Northern & Southern Mongoloid (amid China being the 'breeding-grounds' of Mongoloids) + some peoples from Central Asia
2) Northern Han: predominantly Northern Mongoloid + some Southern Mongoloid + some peoples from Central Asia
3) Southern Han: some studies show that they're predominantly Southern Mongoloid + some Northern Mongoloid, & some indicate that genetically they're mostly similar to the Northern Han on the paternal side but half-half on the maternal side, with remarkable proportional differences from regions to regions

When I was in Asia, I got the impression that there was some resentment/dislike between Japan/Korea/China of each other. Is this true or am I completely off my knocker? Do the Japanese really dislike the Chinese/Koreans, do the Koreans really dislike the Chinese/Japanese and do the Chinese really not like the Koreans/Japanese? If you live in an Asian nation how do you and other people in your country think of

China
Japan
Korea
Singapore
Malaysia
Vietnam
Indonesia
Taiwan
or any others that are significant...


Hi ... You are trying to Post this topic more than once ....
what do you intentions .... ?

Are you trying to make us fight each other ? ...
We are Asian all brothers ....

Please answer me .... what is your intention ... ?

From my understanding from several studies concerning the ethnicity/DNA of
North East Asian:

Korean -
1) roughly 70-75% Nothern Mongoloid + 25-30% Southern Mongoloid + probably a few drops of Caucasoid, nevertheless the most homogenetic of the 3, relatively speaking
2) as close to Japanese as to Chinese: most probably related to the Dong-Yi people(s) who was one of the important tribes in the formation of early Chinese civilization in prehistoric time

Japanese -
Mongoloid (mostly from/via Korea + some from China & East Siberia) + Micronesian/SE Asian + Ainu (the indigenous people: some studies indicate they're a divergence from Northern Mongoloid, but some claim that they're Caucasoid)

Chinese -
1) predominantly Northern & Southern Mongoloid (amid China being the 'breeding-grounds' of Mongoloids) + some peoples from Central Asia
2) Northern Han: predominantly Northern Mongoloid + some Southern Mongoloid + some peoples from Central Asia
3) Southern Han: some studies show that they're predominantly Southern Mongoloid + some Northern Mongoloid, & some indicate that genetically they're mostly similar to the Northern Han on the paternal side but half-half on the maternal side, with remarkable proportional differences from regions to regions

Celestar, do you have any citations that I could look up? Thanx!

China
Japan
Korea
Singapore
Malaysia
Vietnam
Indonesia
Taiwan
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China-my own country i am proud to be chinese
Japan- I used to dislike Japanese, but now i think some japanese are very nice people, however i still hate those who deny the truth
Korea: i love them
Singapore: Sorry to say but i dont like the attitude of some singaporeans, esp chinese singaporeans.
Malaysia,vietnam,indonesia: i dont care, know little about them.
Taiwan: I love them, down with the DDP though.

I believe Japanese and koreans are genetically close to each other, koreans people came from central asia, the earliest japanese were mixed of immigrants from korea and pacific island(polynesians?). Chinese were immigrated to the yellow river valley from Southeastern Asia, therefore more genetically close to vietamnese than japanese and koreans.

If you're interested about this, visit China Rising forum where you can talk about a wide variety of issue about China.

www.china-rising.org

BTW, I think Sino-Japanese relations are going to be very difficult to control in the future.

The whole issue about where everybody is from is just pointless. Our descendants go WAY WAY back and theres always the chance that what everybody thinks or wants to believe is false. Besides, the question of this thread is to ask what Chinese people think of their neighboring countries...

I though we human all came from Ethiopia in Africa.

We all came from monkeys, but at least they didn't know how to make fucking weapons.

Japanese is worst humanity in asia, you can see how cruel they are. Even though japanese now seems to be kind, actually they carry the genes inherited from their ancestor. They are cruel, they can kill people and can change from good to bad without warning. Thats why we must be careful, japanese sucks.

Japanese is worst humanity in asia, you can see how cruel they are. Even though japanese now seems to be kind, actually they carry the genes inherited from their ancestor. They are cruel, they can kill people and can change from good to bad without warning. Thats why we must be careful, japanese sucks.


No need for stereotypes.

I know about what happened in 1937 - more than 300,000 people were killed in Nanjing, and more than 20,000 women were raped.

Since that time, the Japanese have really changed. Your attitude only continues the hatred. You should have lived long ago to say those words.

No need for stereotypes.

I know about what happened in 1937 - more than 300,000 people were killed in Nanjing, and more than 20,000 women were raped.

Since that time, the Japanese have really changed. Your attitude only continues the hatred. You should have lived long ago to say those words.
Those words might be harsh, but please elaborate on how they've changed, u mean they stopped massacring and raping so they've made a change?

I don't like the Chinese very much. Very hegemonistic and arrogant people. The Chinese government itself is an exact replica of its peoples' mentality. By way that China is doing, it doesn't seem like it is in the business of making friends.

I also dislike Singaporean Chinese. So arrogant and so rude.

I don't like the Chinese very much. Very hegemonistic and arrogant people. The Chinese government itself is an exact replica of its peoples' mentality. By way that China is doing, it doesn't seem like it is in the business of making friends.

I also dislike Singaporean Chinese. So arrogant and so rude.
This isn't surprising coming from you.

Vinaboyz is infamous for his anti-Chinese sentiments on other forums. He does seem to be much more rational on skyscrapercity.com than other forums though.

I don't like the Chinese very much. Very hegemonistic and arrogant people. The Chinese government itself is an exact replica of its peoples' mentality. By way that China is doing, it doesn't seem like it is in the business of making friends.

I also dislike Singaporean Chinese. So arrogant and so rude.

Vinaboy, you are known as a bloody China-basher on another forum for fanning diatribes and spreading discords among the forumers. Even your fellow Vietnamese on that particular forum dislike you.

Vinaboy, you are known as a bloody China-basher on another forum for fanning diatribes and spreading discords among the forumers. Even your fellow Vietnamese on that particular forum dislike you.
That's true.

However, the Vietnamese on the other forum that we're speaking of tend to call each other "viet gian" (or "vietnamese traitor) whenever a fellow vietnamese disagrees with him or her lol

Vinaboy, you are known as a bloody China-basher on another forum for fanning diatribes and spreading discords among the forumers. Even your fellow Vietnamese on that particular forum dislike you.
And may I know who they are? If you can't name any then shut up and stop speaking from your anus.

And Pangu, obviously you still haven't realised that we use that term jokingly. Clearly you can't see beyond the horizon with those slitty eyes of yours. :)

Dudes, minding a viet is a disgrace for us. Forget what they've done? We funded them and they tried to invade, that speaks much for their humanity. Very not hegemonistic and arrogant people.

Dudes, minding a viet is a disgrace for us. Forget what they've done? We funded them and they tried to invade, that speaks much for their humanity. Very not hegemonistic and arrogant people.
You are one brainwashed Chinese kid. Who invaded who again?

Hahaha talking about being hegemonistic and arrogant people, I wonder which country is. Just ask around. :weirdo:

Look what vinaboy PMed me:

"Hi

Hello you piece of Chinese shit."
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LOL

Look what vinaboy PMed me:

"Hi

Hello you piece of Chinese shit."
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LOL

OMG you dirty Chinese. You're making up bullshits just to defame me? :bash: Ahahaha it's ok, me and my people are used to dirty tricks from the north.

I don't like the Chinese very much. Very hegemonistic and arrogant people. The Chinese government itself is an exact replica of its peoples' mentality. By way that China is doing, it doesn't seem like it is in the business of making friends.

I also dislike Singaporean Chinese. So arrogant and so rude.

Try substituting the word ''Singaporean'' for another nationality, you will find that it applies too that country too. Why? Because there are rude people in every country so it applies everywhere.

Why stereotype a country's entire population, after all, we don't live in a society where the Dictator says ''be rude'' and everyone becomes rude. Now only in that circumstance would there be any justification to saying that a particular nationality's race is rude.

OMG you dirty Chinese. You're making up bullshits just to defame me? :bash: Ahahaha it's ok, me and my people are used to dirty tricks from the north.

LOL,

don't you think the moderators have some kind of acces to monitor what you wrote me? There is no need to make up anything to defame you. Your language and action tells much about you.

China
Japan
Korea
Singapore
Malaysia
Vietnam
Indonesia
Taiwan
~~~~~~~~~~~
China-my own country i am proud to be chinese
Japan- I used to dislike Japanese, but now i think some japanese are very nice people, however i still hate those who deny the truth
Korea: i love them
Singapore: Sorry to say but i dont like the attitude of some singaporeans, esp chinese singaporeans.
Malaysia,vietnam,indonesia: i dont care, know little about them.
Taiwan: I love them, down with the DDP though.

What attitude of Singaporeans? I won't specifically pinpoint a particular nationality's race as being overly rude etc just because of a few bad experiences in which you might have had. After all, the Japanese may be well known for being polite, but you can't because of that say that all Japanese are polite...and vice versa...

We shouldn't be drawn into this vietnamese's trap. He is simply trying to start flaming for reasons only known to the likes of him.

We should just let the moderators take care of flamers like him.

Now... back on topic...

China - China isn't perfect, but then again, no nation is, but I love China and I applaud the fact that the PRC government is improving itself everyday.

Japan - Japanese individuals I've met are very polite and friendly, but then again the same can be said about almost every Asian individuals I've encountered. However, as a group, it's a different story, but I have nothing against the Japanese people. The Japanese government on the other hand, I believe they should at least acknolwedged what they did to their Asian neighbors during WWII, I don't even care if they apologize or not.

Korea - I feel closer to Koreans than Japanese due to cultural reasons. Individuals are nice and polite but when they are in groups, they are too nationalistic for my taste.

Singapore - Haven't really met any Singaporeans.

Malaysia - I only know Chinese-Malaysians and not native-Malaysians so I guess that doesn't count.

Vietnam - Most Vietnamese I know in real life are quite nice and friendly, but not nearly as polite as Chinese, Japanese and Koreans I know. Very few Vietnamese people I know are like this "Vinaboyz" character.

Indonesia - Don't konw any Indonesians but it's very difficult to forgive them for what they did to the Chinese-Indonesians as hard as I try.

Taiwan - I was born and raised in Taipei, Taiwan. I love Taiwan but it's unfortunate that DPP is in power now.

Singapore - Haven't really met any Singaporeans.
How about us? :D

Anyway...I will be watching this thread. The heat is reaching intolerable levels.

I don't like the Chinese very much. Very hegemonistic and arrogant people. The Chinese government itself is an exact replica of its peoples' mentality. By way that China is doing, it doesn't seem like it is in the business of making friends.

I also dislike Singaporean Chinese. So arrogant and so rude.

It is true that singaporean chinese are very arrogant and rude, especially the way they talk to people. But not all all chinese people are like that. If you refer to the chinese people in china as a whole, youre wrong. Chinese people from china are very good people.

No need for stereotypes.

I know about what happened in 1937 - more than 300,000 people were killed in Nanjing, and more than 20,000 women were raped.

Since that time, the Japanese have really changed. Your attitude only continues the hatred. You should have lived long ago to say those words.

Fucking japanese, i really hated them so much. Even though the japanese occupation had already over, i still will never forgive those japanese. What happen if your very love ones being raped and then torture to death, or your family being torture or burnt to death in the laboratory will you still forgive them and just let the matter rest?? Until now, i still feel sad for those people who had died during the japanese occupation. Ever heard of killing competition in nanjing, where thousands of people had been killed during the competion.

It is true that singaporean chinese are very arrogant and rude, especially the way they talk to people. But not all all chinese people are like that. If you refer to the chinese people in china as a whole, youre wrong. Chinese people from china are very good people.
Fucking japanese, i really hated them so much. Even though the japanese occupation had already over, i still will never forgive those japanese. What happen if your very love ones being raped and then torture to death, or your family being torture or burnt to death in the laboratory will you still forgive them and just let the matter rest?? Until now, i still feel sad for those people who had died during the japanese occupation. Ever heard of killing competition in nanjing, where thousands of people had been killed during the competion.
Very sad seeing such comments made by someone from across the causeway. Right after I have reprimended others for misbehavior too.

Very sad seeing such comments made by someone from across the causeway. Right after I have reprimended others for misbehavior too.
Do sth to that Vinaboyz will ya? Or tell us ur bottom line.

You are one brainwashed Chinese kid. Who invaded who again?

Hahaha talking about being hegemonistic and arrogant people, I wonder which country is. Just ask around. :weirdo:
Funny, what's the point to invade a country, that had no actual independence in history, and where the average height of the ppl was no more than 160cm, etc., especially subsidized by USSR to launch the war? Yeah there's no brainwashing in Vietnam, the government doesn't need it, huh. You must be saying that we are brainwashed coz the Nansha islands belong to us, pathetic.

Do sth to that Vinaboyz will ya? Or tell us ur bottom line.
Bottom line? Pretty simple. One more post like that and I am reporting him.

It is true that singaporean chinese are very arrogant and rude, especially the way they talk to people. But not all all chinese people are like that. If you refer to the chinese people in china as a whole, youre wrong. Chinese people from china are very good people.

When I read this post the first thought that came into my mind was ''this is yet another Oh China Is So Great And No Other Country Is'' post.

Do you have facts to back that up? True = In accord with reality, fact, or truthfulness. (Dictionary.com). I would have accepted your comment if you had added in ''to a certain extent'' or ''some''.

So the chinese people from China are not rude, especially in the way they talk to people... They are the nice nice people, and everyone else is bad? Malaysian Chinese, Indonesia Chinese, Singaporean Chinese, Hong Kong Chinese, Taiwan Chinese... there are no good people from these countries who are chinese?

Threads about whether this group of people are good or not or whether a country is good or not is pointless cause common sense and economic sense tells you that Labour/People/Humans are not homogenous/identical. After all, you have to agree that WE LIVE IN A WORLD where we are DICTATED by one GREAT leader to be arrogant for that statement of yours to be true.

When I read this post the first thought that came into my mind was ''this is yet another Oh China Is So Great And No Other Country Is'' post.

Do you have facts to back that up? True = In accord with reality, fact, or truthfulness. (Dictionary.com). I would have accepted your comment if you had added in ''to a certain extent'' or ''some''.

So the chinese people from China are not rude, especially in the way they talk to people... They are the nice nice people, and everyone else is bad? Malaysian Chinese, Indonesia Chinese, Singaporean Chinese, Hong Kong Chinese, Taiwan Chinese... there are no good people from these countries who are chinese?

Threads about whether this group of people are good or not or whether a country is good or not is pointless cause common sense and economic sense tells you that Labour/People/Humans are not homogenous/identical. After all, you have to agree that WE LIVE IN A WORLD where we are DICTATED by one GREAT leader to be arrogant for that statement of yours to be true.
I think she is from Johor Bahru.

That should more then explain things? :D

Very sad seeing such comments made by someone from across the causeway. Right after I have reprimended others for misbehavior too.

Although we are sad for the death of our ancestors, but in the future, we chinese must be more stronger.
So you must be from singapore,i think singapore should be not be too arrogant, from many forums outside this forum, people impression of singapore is all the same, rude and arrogant. Sometimes you have to accept others opinions, because this is a discussion forum, we had to express our feelings, opinions and thoughts. Simple as that.

Although we are sad for the death of our ancestors, but in the future, we chinese must be more stronger.
So you must be from singapore,i think singapore should be not be too arrogant, from many forums outside this forum, people impression of singapore is all the same, rude and arrogant. Sometimes you have to accept others opinions, because this is a discussion forum, we had to express our feelings, opinions and thoughts. Simple as that.
Accepting an opinion does not negate the liberty of questioning it, my dear, especially when it is obviously highly unfounded and unjustified?

I think she is from Johor Bahru.

That should more then explain things? :D

Nope, im from kukup, a small town in johor and i studied in singapore for 3 years.

Therefore, i understand what kind of singaporeans they are, majority of them have serious attitude problems, but some are good.

Nope, im from kukup, a small town in johor and i studied in singapore for 3 years.
Dont worry dear. I have been to that "small town" often enough to know where it is, despite how "arrogant" I may be. ;)

Accepting an opinion does not negate the liberty of questioning it, my dear, especially when it is obviously highly unfounded and unjustified?
I know what you mean, but you just cannot force certain people who you dislike to turn them into good people who has the same thinking as you right. Just let it be alright. Sometimes we had to change ourself, not changing other people, so next time other people will think of us differently and even respect us.

I know what you mean, but you just cannot force certain people who you dislike to turn them into good people who has the same thinking as you right. Just let it be alright. Sometimes we had to change ourself, not changing other people, so next time other people will think of us differently and even respect us.
You appear to be of the opinion that Singaporeans have to learn to get into your good books before they can get anywhere? Honestly, I doubt most Singaporeans would take what you think of us so seriously to the point of actually changing ourselves according to your demands, and I do not know how long more some of you are going to harbour that kind of sentiment to the detriment of your personal well-being.

Those demands seem just about as arrogant as to those the demands are supposed to be aimed at?

Fucking japanese, i really hated them so much. Even though the japanese occupation had already over, i still will never forgive those japanese. What happen if your very love ones being raped and then torture to death, or your family being torture or burnt to death in the laboratory will you still forgive them and just let the matter rest?? Until now, i still feel sad for those people who had died during the japanese occupation. Ever heard of killing competition in nanjing, where thousands of people had been killed during the competion.


Blame the past aggressors but don't hate the decendents because they are innocent. They weren't the ones that march into China and commited the murders.

I don't like the Chinese very much. Very hegemonistic and arrogant people. The Chinese government itself is an exact replica of its peoples' mentality. By way that China is doing, it doesn't seem like it is in the business of making friends.

I also dislike Singaporean Chinese. So arrogant and so rude.


You Vietnamese aren't any better either, stirring up trouble everywhere. I still remember those vietnamese refugees in Hong Kong detention camps, such pests, wasting our taxpayers money to feed you guys and pay for the plane tickets so they can either go back to Vietnam or someother countries willing to accept them. Perhaps Chinese are arrogant because we actually have something to be proud of. The successes of the Chinese diaspora is evident in Malaysia,Indonesia,Singapore,Philipines,Thailand,Canada,USA,and Australia, and now China is grabbing the attention of the world. Vietnamese are just troublemakers, take Los Angeles for example Chinese people don't really like them because of their attitude and behavior. This tiny vinaboyz is a good example.

For other readers, excuse my rudeness cause this particular Vietnamese gets on my nerves. :bash:

Sigh...calm down. I have sent him a PM as a final warning. No need to puke blood over such folks lah. :D

Sigh...calm down. I have sent him a PM as a final warning. No need to puke blood over such folks lah. :D


I'm calm :nocrook:

I'm calm :nocrook:
hahaha....cool dude. :cool:

huaiwei, or other Chinese Singaporeans, is this true? Can anybody confirm(a bit off topic):
日本人对印尼暴乱中华人世界的描述　[国人必看]
不知道是否真是日本人，不过看的我很难受，下面是我最难受的一部分

摘要

在整个亚洲，在国际舞台上强大的国家除了日本，另外一个国家是新加坡，而不是中 国。1997年起我在印尼的雅加达工作，目睹了1998年5月份的暴动过程，通过我住的酒店的窗户，能看到当地华人被洗劫的情况。居我们大使馆的人员介绍有几百名华裔女性被当地人强*、毒打和虐待，男人则被砍掉了脑袋！我坐的汽车也被抢劫者盘问过，问我们是不是华人，当我们用日语回答时，他们挥挥手就把我们放行了。

在印尼富有的外侨并不是华裔，而是我们日侨，所以找替罪羊的说法是华人的自我安慰，当地人之所以选择华裔开刀――因为组织发动袭击的人明白，不会有任何人为这些被害者作主。事实上他们的选择是正确的，至今也不知道谁是最终的主谋，也不会有人再去过问，这一切将成为历史，无论中 国的大陆，还是台湾都不敢得罪印尼。当时，只有新加坡竭尽全力的帮助华裔，新加坡樟宜国际机场到处都是从印尼逃亡出来的华人，新航为此加开了一倍班次，来救援被洗劫的印尼华人。长期以来新加坡一直是印尼华人的避难之地，也是华裔心目中的天堂。别说华裔，印尼甚至不允许中[和]国使馆的工作人员乘飞机离开，尽管当时印尼和香港之间的航线还没有取消，中 国使馆的全体人员只能登上汽车，长途跋涉从泗水港乘船至新加坡。

huaiwei, or other Chinese Singaporeans, is this true? Can anybody confirm(a bit off topic):
日本人对印尼暴乱中华人世界的描述　[国人必看]
不知道是否真是日本人，不过看的我很难受，下面是我最难受的一部分

摘要

在整个亚洲，在国际舞台上强大的国家除了日本，另外一个国家是新加坡，而不是中 国。1997年起我在印尼的雅加达工作，目睹了1998年5月份的暴动过程，通过我住的酒店的窗户，能看到当地华人被洗劫的情况。居我们大使馆的人员介绍有几百名华裔女性被当地人强*、毒打和虐待，男人则被砍掉了脑袋！我坐的汽车也被抢劫者盘问过，问我们是不是华人，当我们用日语回答时，他们挥挥手就把我们放行了。

在印尼富有的外侨并不是华裔，而是我们日侨，所以找替罪羊的说法是华人的自我安慰，当地人之所以选择华裔开刀――因为组织发动袭击的人明白，不会有任何人为这些被害者作主。事实上他们的选择是正确的，至今也不知道谁是最终的主谋，也不会有人再去过问，这一切将成为历史，无论中 国的大陆，还是台湾都不敢得罪印尼。当时，只有新加坡竭尽全力的帮助华裔，新加坡樟宜国际机场到处都是从印尼逃亡出来的华人，新航为此加开了一倍班次，来救援被洗劫的印尼华人。长期以来新加坡一直是印尼华人的避难之地，也是华裔心目中的天堂。别说华裔，印尼甚至不允许中[和]国使馆的工作人员乘飞机离开，尽管当时印尼和香港之间的航线还没有取消，中 国使馆的全体人员只能登上汽车，长途跋涉从泗水港乘船至新加坡。
Yeah, it was true. I cant remember much details of it, and I often confuse it with the Bali and Jakarta bombings more recently, but it seems like Singapore often ends up as "refugee" point of sorts. During the riots, the government set aside an SIA B747 just for ferrying the refugees. SIA continued to fly to Indonesia despite almost zero passengers on the flights towards Indonesia, and had to mount extra flights too.

Over here, the government activated a "emergency status" sort of thing, finding accomodation and welfare for the less well-off refuges who came with nothing. This scenario was repeated during the Bali bombings, when Singapore ended up being the main hospital for hundreds of victims because the whole of Indonesia do not have a burns unit in their hospitals.

I suppose that is what little Singapore can do best to help its huge neighbour...it may be just a small assistance, but hopefully we get some appreciation from those few who benefitted from it?

But nonetheless, it always warms my heart when relating this. It is times like this when humanity shows its brightest sparks? :)

Yeah, it was true. I cant remember much details of it, and I often confuse it with the Bali and Jakarta bombings more recently, but it seems like Singapore often ends up as "refugee" point of sorts. During the riots, the government set aside an SIA B747 just for ferrying the refugees. SIA continued to fly to Indonesia despite almost zero passengers on the flights towards Indonesia, and had to mount extra flights too.

Over here, the government activated a "emergency status" sort of thing, finding accomodation and welfare for the less well-off refuges who came with nothing. This scenario was repeated during the Bali bombings, when Singapore ended up being the main hospital for hundreds of victims because the whole of Indonesia do not have a burns unit in their hospitals.

I suppose that is what little Singapore can do best to help its huge neighbour...it may be just a small assistance, but hopefully we get some appreciation from those few who benefitted from it?

But nonetheless, it always warms my heart when relating this. It is times like this when humanity shows its brightest sparks? :)

Singapore's the metropolis for SE Asia. Of course it's supposed to provide advanced services for the region - including both financial services and advanced medical care.

Huaiwei, once again - hats off to handling the idiot racists on the boards.

You Vietnamese aren't any better either, stirring up trouble everywhere. I still remember those vietnamese refugees in Hong Kong detention camps, such pests, wasting our taxpayers money to feed you guys and pay for the plane tickets so they can either go back to Vietnam or someother countries willing to accept them. Perhaps Chinese are arrogant because we actually have something to be proud of. The successes of the Chinese diaspora is evident in Malaysia,Indonesia,Singapore,Philipines,Thailand,Canada,USA,and Australia, and now China is grabbing the attention of the world. Vietnamese are just troublemakers, take Los Angeles for example Chinese people don't really like them because of their attitude and behavior. This tiny vinaboyz is a good example.

For other readers, excuse my rudeness cause this particular Vietnamese gets on my nerves. :bash:

And you chinese are nothing but trouble makers in Vietnam. Centuries after you came to Vietnam as refugees, you people still behave like criminals. All the gangs, drug trafficking are run by you ethnic chinese around the Ha Noi and Hai Phong areas. We have been wasting too much of our tax money to feed you useless people for the last several centuries. It's time for you to pack your bags and go back to where you came from several centuries ago.

We are willing to trade 100 of these chinese criminals in Vietnam just to get back 1 Vietnamese like you have described but I'm afraid that you don't even have enough to trade with us.

Talking about gangs in the U.S, your famous Wah Ching gang make headlines in the television local news around Los Angeles for one of the biggest gangs involve with extortion, prostitution, drug trafficking and all of those good stuff.

Nah, I won't even want to mention about your chinese gangs started to march down toward the Vietnamese businesses around the Garden Grove and Westminster areas in southern California to collect your so-called "protection money"

Singapore's the metropolis for SE Asia. Of course it's supposed to provide advanced services for the region - including both financial services and advanced medical care.

Huaiwei, once again - hats off to handling the idiot racists on the boards.
Hmmm....well, not exactly. Singapore may be "advanced" in some sense, but coming to Singapore is not always a "natural" choice too. For instance, the Indonesians can very well escape to Malaysia, where they speak the same language, or to Australia, where quite a sizeable number did.

The Singapore government, in its assistance to these people, do incur the wrath of the Indonesian government sometimes. For example, Indonesian Chinese often want to get a Singapore passport as well, so that they can flee the country at the first sign of trouble, and the Indonesian authorities were not too happy with this. Being the "refuge" point for riot escapees...or even to money-luandering fraudsters, has also caused much unhappiness even to this day.

I suppose it is therefore more of a question of ethics and morality vs economics and diplomacy? There is a trade-off involved, and not every country wants to get entangled in it as much as Singapore got herself into.

Turning to negative behavior of forumers here, I do wish to stress (again), that while racist remarks against China are not tolerated, it does not justify us to make similar responses against them, like the post above.

Hence, please do chill out. I really do not want to do the unpleasant thing of deleted and editing posts, before starting to send people to the gallows.

the most important, taiwan is not a country!

the most important, taiwan is not a country!

That's not a fact of reality, only an interpretation; there's no need to restate it in a political fashion.

Hmmm....well, not exactly. Singapore may be "advanced" in some sense, but coming to Singapore is not always a "natural" choice too. For instance, the Indonesians can very well escape to Malaysia, where they speak the same language, or to Australia, where quite a sizeable number did.

The Singapore government, in its assistance to these people, do incur the wrath of the Indonesian government sometimes. For example, Indonesian Chinese often want to get a Singapore passport as well, so that they can flee the country at the first sign of trouble, and the Indonesian authorities were not too happy with this. Being the "refuge" point for riot escapees...or even to money-luandering fraudsters, has also caused much unhappiness even to this day.

I suppose it is therefore more of a question of ethics and morality vs economics and diplomacy? There is a trade-off involved, and not every country wants to get entangled in it as much as Singapore got herself into.

Turning to negative behavior of forumers here, I do wish to stress (again), that while racist remarks against China are not tolerated, it does not justify us to make similar responses against them, like the post above.

Hence, please do chill out. I really do not want to do the unpleasant thing of deleted and editing posts, before starting to send people to the gallows.


I know what you mean, that is why I didn't even bother replying it'll go nowhere. I am calm once again :nocrook:

I am a Chinese and I feel really proud to be a Chinese, although I am a Hong Kong Chinese
I love HK
I Love Korea
I , maybe like Japan, before I hate it, but now I made some really good Japanese friend, I think Japanese are quite friendly, except the Japanese Government
I don't really care about Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and vietnam

the most important, taiwan is not a country!

Are U sure to that :D

Actually ALL Asia countries togehter with their people are wonderful and beautiful :)

North East, South East, East & South ASIA are similar feeling as to brotherhood

This thread is an incredible and stupid mix of prejudices.
Ever heard of propaganda? Use your brains fellas, don't be fooled by polticians and media, in all countries, in Japan, Korea, China, wherever. It' s so easy and favorable for them to create hatred and simplification. That's what they want, it's about power.

I have friends from all over the world, Germany, Netherlands, US, China, Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Mexico...We can distinguish state policy & propaganda and individual level.
Why should be a Japanese ethical better than a Korean? A Chinese better than a Vietnamese? A German better than a American?

History of 20th century is in fact awful.

The Japanese State hasn' t fulfilled the duty to acknowledge brutal imperialism in the first half of 20th century as evil and take responsibility for what happened in name of Japan.
But no one can blame a young Japanese for that. Why hate them? Because he' s born in the wrong country or what?

I hear this kind of stuff so often and I' m pissed off of so much stupidity, sorry!

i completely agree with you.

I have 2 Hongkong friends here in Canada and they are the nicest people i ever met! They are really open minded and fun to hang around with! I couldnt make any Chinese mainland friends here but i wish to make some in the future. :)

I am living in England for studying and I've got a really good Japanese friend
Korean treat me so well as well
And the Mainland Chinese are extremely nice to me
So as Taiwanese
Actually, Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese and Hong Kong people and Korean can all be friends. more truth, all the people in the world, even a Iraqi and an American, can make friends

But no one can blame a young Japanese for that. Why hate them? Because he' s born in the wrong country or what?



I completely agree; that's what's wrong with some of us.

Tell that to those who rained water bottles and stuff on the Japanese soccer players in that infamous match.

Not that I cant understand what drives these kinds of feelings, but sometimes, I just feel it bits back far worse then it does to the intended party....

yeah right on we stupid Chinese should learn from that Japanese guy on the Tokyo filmfest, how righteous he was.

And what did he do to make him worthy of our emulation?

talked bullshit and acted like a clown in public, by our standard. That might be considered some epic act by some others?

The stereotype of ALL old Japanese are evil because they participated in the massacres during WWII is just as bad as ALL young Japanese are NOT evil because they didn't participate in those horrible events.

There are many young Japanese today who actually support and applaud the evil acts conducted by Japan during WWII. At the same time, there are many older Japanese either today or back then disagreed with their government's evil schemes.

There are many young Japanese today who actually support and applaud the evil acts conducted by Japan during WWII. At the same time, there are many older Japanese either today or back then disagreed with their government's evil schemes.
Last one I agree.
But I personally haven't met one single younger Japanese who actually supported the acts under Japanese flag during WWII.
I have to add, that (war) history of the first half of the 20th century isn' t taught intensively enough in Japan, my impression, but that's a very controversal issue inside Japan (history book debate), as you may know.
I wouldn' t deny that there are some fellas that are insane in the brain. But you would find these groups of war fanatics, fascists, racists and revanchists anywhere.
Therefore, the only point that we can discuss about in a rational way is what we can do against this small minority. What we never should do is to "discuss" which nationality is evil and which's not. This will lead to irrational nationalism
and enforce thoughts that belong to history that we can' t be very proud of.

The stereotype of ALL old Japanese are evil because they participated in the massacres during WWII is just as bad as ALL young Japanese are NOT evil because they didn't participate in those horrible events.

There are many young Japanese today who actually support and applaud the evil acts conducted by Japan during WWII. At the same time, there are many older Japanese either today or back then disagreed with their government's evil schemes.
Do you take pride in the Chinese crowd's behaviour at the recent Japan vs China soccer match? Or that there is a so-called "patriotic education" where the CCP teaches young Chinese to harbour hatred for other ethnics, particularly Japanese? Or the fact that the communist party uses extreme nationalism as a tool to consolidate power?

Do you take pride in the Chinese crowd's behaviour at the recent Japan vs China soccer match? Or that there is a so-called "patriotic education" where the CCP teaches young Chinese to harbour hatred for other ethnics, particularly Japanese? Or the fact that the communist party uses extreme nationalism as a tool to consolidate power?
Do you mean if the CCP is overthrown we will love you Viets? Guess only in ur country ppl's mind is controlled by a particular party? Tell me one time the Chinese loved Viets in history, no matter how the controlling power shifted? Oh wait the sweetest time with Viets was driving the Yanks out of Vietnam with Vietnamese ppl, and errrr, that was conducted by the CCP, how ludicrous huh?

Do you mean if the CCP is overthrown we will love you Viets? Guess only in ur country ppl's mind is controlled by a particular party? Tell me one time the Chinese loved Viets in history, no matter how the controlling power shifted? Oh wait the sweetest time with Viets was driving the Yanks out of Vietnam with Vietnamese ppl, and errrr, that was conducted by the CCP, how ludicrous huh?
WTF are you talking about? We don't need any Chinese to love us, just leaving us alone. And I've never said anything about Chinese loving Viets, where did you get this? Historically speaking, we Viets hate the guts out of you Chinese and vice versa, there's no pretension about it.

It's rather sad for the rest of the world, and particularly Chinese that they themselves are just the pawns of the CCP. Hopeless illinformed and ill-educated drones whose thrive on the hatred of other ethnicities and used as a tool by the CCP to consolidate their power.

And the CCP helping North Vietnam is a load of shit. Everybody know too well that it was in China's interest to have a divided and weak Vietnam as a buffer against the west and for hegemonistic reasons, same with the Korean situation. No thanks from me sorry.

History is the PAST and old stuffs
Reality as the new and up to date pictures

Don't look back and good and prospective future of The Great Asia framwork is just on our own hand :)

WTF are you talking about? We don't need any Chinese to love us, just leaving us alone. And I've never said anything about Chinese loving Viets, where did you get this? Historically speaking, we Viets hate the guts out of you Chinese and vice versa, there's no pretension about it.

It's rather sad for the rest of the world, and particularly Chinese that they themselves are just the pawns of the CCP. Hopeless illinformed and ill-educated drones whose thrive on the hatred of other ethnicities and used as a tool by the CCP to consolidate their power.

And the CCP helping North Vietnam is a load of shit. Everybody know too well that it was in China's interest to have a divided and weak Vietnam as a buffer against the west and for hegemonistic reasons, same with the Korean situation. No thanks from me sorry.
Oh dude ya have so simple a mind, no love means hate? If it wasn't you I'd like the Vietnamese ppl, they have good ethnic connection with the ppl in Southern China no? They dared stand against the US and won the war, they have good historical connection with China... and the cultural part is kinda interconnected. But look at ur harlequinade, lol. You hate us, ok, no problem, but do you have the power to actualize that in action? It's better for you to not contradict yourself otherwise I'll further mess your logic.

I think the world will be a much better place if some of you just keep our comments to yourselves?

hahaha, u asian guys just have so much hatred from within yourself. I don't know if it's propoganda or prophecy, but one day u asian people will end up like the american and the middle east. I don't know which side is right, but the main point is they don't like each other, and the facts said the true, the hatred between the middle and american just getting stronger and stronger everydays. If you asian guys act like them, yall not gonna any peace. There are no winning side in a war, both side will have casuality and total infrastructure and mobility destruction. Because you asian people let hatred blind your love for other ethnicity, I really don't mean to said this, but if u keep this up yall gonna end up in total destruction. Sure the european have some problems too, I known that. anyway, but by judging at this thread, you guys hatred for each other is a lot worsen. With technology so advance now, a little war can start total destruction and chaos. Consequently, these words are just what i think, you guys don't have to agree with me, but think about it to see if I am right or not :)

One more things, I known I am not a perfect person, I hate other people sometimes when they wrong doing me. However, I forgive them because it make me feel goods. Do you guys feel good when u hate other people, do it make u a hero, even honor ur ethnicity.

There're historical reasons mate, the oriental culture has been going for thousands of years, and it's not possible that there will be no conflicts coming from history, culture, territory disputes etc.
There is nothing like the sentiment between the Yanks and the Arabs, they don't have that many reasons to dislike each other, the only reason is interest, national interest. The Yanks want oil and fear for the huge population of muslims, that's all.
It won't work even if you are so caritative, there are always things cannot be solved between ethnic groups. As an individual it is good to have an open mind to forgive others and their wrongdoings, but as a group of people, that's impossible.
Asians, when I speak of Asians I mean people in the Orient, have always loved and hated each other as the scroll of history unfolds and the pages are turned, every love or hatred has its own historical background and your lifetime is just as short as no more than a line in the scroll, so it's bad to judge different ethnic groups from your own investigation, because you never know historical accumulation.
To sum it up I think it's good to make others clear about how you think of them, the wheel of history has always been rolling and you don't know where the point you are at. Of course people write the history down but as a whole it is not written as you wish it to be.
So it sounds like that the conflicts between the Asians are temporary(as the relationship always shifts from love to hate or hate to love), and those of the Europeans are provisional as well, but the misunderstanding between the East and West will be a long-term thing.

True, you can said that Asian historical background can dated back to 5,000 years. I can even understand that there is always dispute between land and rivalry because of some causes dated back even to a thousands years. I known i don't understand much about your culture and historical background. I just speak from my mind, and from perspective view. I can even understand how the chinese must have fell when thousands of chinese people have been kill by the Japanese, but do you think that its good to carry on the grudge forever. I known it's easy said that done, I have also try to look at that perspective point of view also. However, the Japanese people have been bomb by the U.S. atomic bomb already, two island have been perish, I mean total destruction and chaos. Hundred of thousands of people have die, as right now thousands, or even worse million of people have been cause by illness disease due to the unleash of atomic bomb. I think the Japanese have already pay their price, and the price are being pay heaviy for assmiliated thousands of chinese. Consistenly, the chinese people have also invaded the vietnamese people for thousands of years just because of land. How much vietnamese people have die in a thousands china war. Who can the vietnamese blame it onto? The vietnamese people hatred are just like the chinese when Japanese assimiliated the chinese people, I think even a lot worse because thousands of years domination under the chinese rule, man that is a lot of hatred compare to the chinese under the Japanese chaos wrongdoing. The vietnamese people also have cause some harm to other ehtnic. Anyway, the main point is you guys must not let hatred continue, at least not developing at rate where it could cause total destruction. Hatred is what every person have on the inner side, that the evil side. Anyway I just want to point thing out that all, no one will have a good life of there is war going on. For an example, what do you think will happen if the U.S. will go to war with north korea. It will affect the whole world not just the 2 country because north korea got nuke. Once they got not choice left but to surrender to the U.S., they will launch all the nuke that they had who care which countries or whoever die, just as long as it got launch. That is just my speak of mind that all.

I wish there be peace on Earth all over place,a place with not hating and discrmination, or else we clould kill ourself first before global threatening out life. Man that is weird.

Well, depending on which religious faith you subscribe to, or even to none of them, the way mankind is slowly commiting suicide appears to be an interesting theme to mull over especially for particular faiths.

vietmanese speak their viet nam ngu like bunches of starving ducks yelling for food, lucky i dont have to hear that shit here

remember, all the vietnamese, dont talk on the street especially in a foreign country, coz you voice is actually NOICE! (ive seen some vietnamese students in china in a bus, their noices pissed me off badly!)


to japs, nothing but hatred, i'll beat up as much damn japs in china as possible!

vietmanese speak their viet nam ngu like bunches of starving ducks yelling for food, lucky i dont have to hear that shit here

remember, all the vietnamese, dont talk on the street especially in a foreign country, coz you voice is actually NOICE! (ive seen some vietnamese students in china in a bus, their noices pissed me off badly!)


to japs, nothing but hatred, i'll beat up as much damn japs in china as possible!
I think that is quite enough?

vietmanese speak their viet nam ngu like bunches of starving ducks yelling for food, lucky i dont have to hear that shit here

remember, all the vietnamese, dont talk on the street especially in a foreign country, coz you voice is actually NOICE! (ive seen some vietnamese students in china in a bus, their noices pissed me off badly!)


to japs, nothing but hatred, i'll beat up as much damn japs in china as possible!

Imagine how we have to hear that language of yours since your kind arrived to Vietnam in 1679. At least we don't have to flood to china to search for left over food since 1679.

Since your kind arrived to Vietnam in 1679, you people do not make one bit of contribution to our society. The only contribution that you have made was by collaborating with the invading chinese army in 1789 and collaborating with the french colonists to rule Vietnam.

You people do not make one bit of contribution to the economy of Vietnam either. I can't think of an ethnic chinese-owned company that creates jobs/providing incomes for the local Vietnamese either.

I seriously believe 1 millions of your brethrens living in Vietnam need to be deported and shipped back to china where they came from since 1679 or they can just pack their bags and move to singapore, taiwan, malaysia, or hong kong.

Fortunately, we did deport 500,000 of you ethnic chinese out of Vietnam in 1979.

Wow ! I thought it was bad in the North American forums. So much hatred and hostility here. Why? I have read much of the history of China and Japan. Unfortunately I have not been able to find too much on other peoples in the Orient.
Anyway, what drew me here to begin with was that I just knew there would be heated debates and raging going on in here. It is so unfortunate. I fear for the world (and I truly mean that) when I see such discord among neighbors.
I am no bleeding heart (I don't know if you are familiar with the term so ask and I will explain if you want) so I understand and even accept that there must be animosity in the world. But here in Canada ( I live in Winnipeg, a very, very cold city) I have met people from all around the world. In fact, we are friends, we work together, and get along just fine. Certainly there are plenty of problems and crime is not foreign to us either. However, the point I'm trying to make is that here it is frowned upon to assume that anybody is evil or inferior based on where they are from. I understand why you may think that what you believe is fair (as I said, I have read much history in general and some specific) but I personally can say that I never give a persons origin a second thought.
When the Europeans first arrived here and resettled this continent they wiped out the aboriginals almost to the point of extinction. And rest assured, we have many issues we are still dealing with to correct this injustice. But I grew up knowing hundreds of Natives and even count one as among my best friends. That is to say that regardless of the past, we have moved forward. Some Natives hate white people but they almost always live on reserves and know almost none that the government doesn't send. Whereas here in the city they soon realize that for whatever may have happened in the past, the majority of whites have been demonized and are not evil like they were taught. I believe this is what may be the problem with some of the people I see here speaking and spewing such hatred. You don't actually know the people you think that you hate. Some do of course but then again, do you really KNOW them? Or would you say that you have simply learned to tolerate things as they are and have accepted a bad situation as "just the way things are?" I know many Chinese and Philipinos. I know some Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese. I have never heard them say anything about hating each other but I acknowledge that that is probably because most of these people I know were born here in Canada and we consider ourselves Canadians. Their parents didn't teach them to hate like in the old country because now they could see that not everything they learned about each other was true. About the only thing I won't listen to is an uneducated opinion. It is almost always wrong and betrays the ignorance of the speaker. I pity people who speak of things as experts when they are truly ignorant. The reason for the pity is because they will never know a truth. They will never bother to actually investigate for themselves and therefore puposely deny themselves knowledge. I feel I must warn you that this is dangerous thinking. Many people have died horrible deaths to provide the evidence that what I say is true.
I am no expert at anything I have spoken of here. Be that as it may, I know the seeds of evil when I see them and that's why I have interupted your thread here. My apologies if this offends you. However, it is vital that you at least consider what I have said. Hitler spoke the same malice in his time and that cost the world a hundred million lives. Unless you would prefer to shoot first and ask questions later.

Imagine how we have to hear that language of yours since your kind arrived to Vietnam in 1679. At least we don't have to flood to china to search for left over food since 1679.

Since your kind arrived to Vietnam in 1679, you people do not make one bit of contribution to our society. The only contribution that you have made was by collaborating with the invading chinese army in 1789 and collaborating with the french colonists to rule Vietnam.

You people do not make one bit of contribution to the economy of Vietnam either. I can't think of an ethnic chinese-owned company that creates jobs/providing incomes for the local Vietnamese either.

I seriously believe 1 millions of your brethrens living in Vietnam need to be deported and shipped back to china where they came from since 1679 or they can just pack their bags and move to singapore, taiwan, malaysia, or hong kong.

Fortunately, we did deport 500,000 of you ethnic chinese out of Vietnam in 1979.

I agree, they do nothing but opening shops and leeching resources created with blood and sweat of the Vietnamese farmers and Vietnam alike. Must be deported to where they belong. And obviously that Manchurian dog is barking mad due to successful brainwashing by his Chinese masters.

I would think both of you will do better NOT replying to manchuria's posts, failing which I will just have to delete your posts?

Delete :banana: :banana: :banana:
But if you delete them we will never know how we think of each other?

Unfortunately, quite a number of you dont seem to realise you can express dislike and even hatred towards another without succuming to low-level insults and such?