Reasonable price is one word another word is undervalue.haha.lol:lol:even it reaches 1500psf i doubt i will sell the place.have fallen deeply in love with the place.some property have good location but no view and vice versa.mostly without having the mrt just downstair which made an important factor in rental.long time since we having a poll.maybe we can do it again.how much psf it reach then you guys will consider to sell or no matter how much also will not sell?

"Undervalue" was a word I used to describe Citylights and the Lavender area in this thread in 2006 or early 2007. I sensed good potential in this location back in the 90s when a friend told me that the CBD has very little room to expand westward at Tanjong Pagar and sooner or later the CBD would have to expand east of Bugis. Of course the release of the Marina South lands for the CBD slowed down the development of the CBD eastward but nevertheless I was thrilled when the government announced this year the huge Ophir-Rochor Corridor developments between Bugis and Lavender.

I won't sell mine at any price unless I am broke. In fact, I am patiently waiting for a good entry point to arrive so that I can purchase another 1 or 2 more units for rental. :)

GREAT LOCATION, GREAT VIEW, MORE GREAT DEVELOPMENTS COMING.

I will not sell my unit too. In fact I regretted not buying more units then in 2004/5/6, when the demand for Ciytlights was not that great. I am also seriously looking into buying smaller units for rental. :)

When I took a slow stroll from Citylights to Singapore Flyer and F1 race starting point last month, I tried to look for the 12-storey fountain along the way but it was apparently still under construction. I kept thinking the fountain was already ready because it was mentioned 2 to 3 years back. Anyway, I can't wait to visit the fountain in 2009.

thank Maverick713 for sharing with us how the fountain look like and where it is located.can't wait to see that.:banana:

GREAT LOCATION, GREAT VIEW, MORE GREAT DEVELOPMENTS COMING.

I will not sell my unit too. In fact I regretted not buying more units then in 2004/5/6, when the demand for Ciytlights was not that great. I am also seriously looking into buying smaller units for rental. :)

seem like quite a few won't sell no matter what and regretted never buy more.me too won't sell as well i dun need that money.actually i also regretted not buying more units.if time could turn back the clock.:nuts:

i was so shocked to see in the paper The sail for one bedder is almost the same as Cl asking price for rental and in fact some units there is much bigger than CL.at first thought their one bedder rental would be much higher than Cl.

i was so shocked to see in the paper The sail for one bedder is almost the same as Cl asking price for rental and in fact some units there is much bigger than CL.at first thought their one bedder rental would be much higher than Cl.

The massive construction works (for IR, MBFC, MBS, One Shenton etc.) going on around The Sail affected its attractiveness to tenants but this is only temporary. I believe things would turn around for the better in a few years time when the surrounding area has settled down. In the meantime, Citylights is a credible alternative.

see a lot of red lights on the roof tops around - for the air trafick obviously, but not on CL? Are we living in danger?

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Taken at T80 23rd Storey on the 15th night of the ghost month

see a lot of red lights on the roof tops around - for the air trafick obviously, but not on CL? Are we living in danger?

I had wondered the same thing too. Citylights is so tall yet have no red lights to warn aircraft flying at night. Even City Square Residences although shorter than Citylights have installed red warning lights on the roofs.

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Taken at T80 23rd Storey on the 15th night of the ghost month

Nice moon shot.

It's a gorgeous looking Kallang Waterfront but a bit dark-looking nowadays. A pity the brightly lighted Kallang Oasis entertainment complex over the bay was closed at end-March this year. They had added nice colourful lighting to the view when they were still in operation.

see a lot of red lights on the roof tops around - for the air trafick obviously, but not on CL? Are we living in danger?

i also observed that few months back.even the HDB blocks beside which shorter also have that as well.did BCA notice that?

Nice moon shot.

It's a gorgeous looking Kallang Waterfront but a bit dark-looking nowadays. A pity the brightly lighted Kallang Oasis entertainment complex over the bay was closed at end-March this year. They had added nice colourful lighting to the view when they were still in operation.


Does anyone know what is going to happen to the entertainment complex?

Does anyone know what is going to happen to the entertainment complex?

It is supposed to be demolished to make way for the water sports centre at the future Sports Hub.

See http://www.ssc.gov.sg/publish/Corporate/en/news/media_releases/2007_media_releases/watersports_centre.html

However, looks like the project is facing unexpected delays for some reason ....

any other bridges to be built over Kallang?

The laminate at the Block 88 Lift has been chipped off. The piece is ruined :nono: It's a rather big chip and its pretty obvious when seen from the furthest edge of the lift.

Either that is deliberate vandalism, or it had been chipped off by accident, or the quality of the laminate no good. See the enclosed photo. Any fellow residents at Tower 88 noticed this?

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Anyone else notice the dogs that are out on the 6th floor? Some are off leash. And some appear to be using the 6th floor as their toilet facilities. :ohno: Does anyone know if this is allowed in a condo? I thought there were very specific rules as to where dogs can relieve themselves.

who let the dogs out??

i really dislike the foul/strange smell at T86, 88, 90 car park at 1st floor. so disgusting.

Anyone else notice the dogs that are out on the 6th floor? Some are off leash. And some appear to be using the 6th floor as their toilet facilities. :ohno: Does anyone know if this is allowed in a condo? I thought there were very specific rules as to where dogs can relieve themselves.

That's just being irresponsible. Did you see the owners or their maids around? One needs to educate them on proper pet ownership responsibilities in public areas, in this case it's a "private public" area to be more accurate.

i really dislike the foul/strange smell at T86, 88, 90 car park at 1st floor. so disgusting.

Is it still there? I just came back from lunch and didn't notice anything already, might have cleared up?

Noticed that the lift lobby grille at Blk 90 took a severe beating and looks like a mangled heap... drunk driver perhaps or silly contractor?

It is so humid recently, I'm melting whenever I'm outside my home/car. Made the mistake of going to the Night Safari and Bottle Tree Park/Village and ended up all hot and sticky.

I sent letter to management about the skygarden, gym and sun beds at the pool. I received a letter back from them which I can post here in full later. However they show no intention to improve anything. Saying it is very good as it is right now. Obviously they don't live in CL, and I got dissapointed that they don't see any room for improvement.

yes the smell from sewage at level 1 carpark is always there.

I sent letter to management about the skygarden, gym and sun beds at the pool. I received a letter back from them which I can post here in full later. However they show no intention to improve anything. Saying it is very good as it is right now. Obviously they don't live in CL, and I got dissapointed that they don't see any room for improvement.

I've also brought up the issue of sunbeds at the pool. They are always occupied! I suggested why don't they add a few more sunbeds. The reply was that there is no room for more. What kind of excuse is that? :ohno:

their excuses (from managment) is in the shape of: It is good now, no need to improve. That is the excuse. If they could at least admit that it was room for improvement, and with time maybe do something with it, then I would feel better. However I don't see any willingnes what so ever to do anything.

their excuses (from managment) is in the shape of: It is good now, no need to improve. That is the excuse. If they could at least admit that it was room for improvement, and with time maybe do something with it, then I would feel better. However I don't see any willingnes what so ever to do anything.

Our new condo manager said that several residents' requests for improvements like additional equipment at the gym, better facilities at the sky gardens etc. were rejected by the developer. Only when the residents have voted into and form the new Management Committee after the first AGM of the MCST can we be allowed to use the condo's funds for these improvement. I think another 1 or 2 years more hopefully.

I think management should be clear that this is rejected from the developer. Now we get the impression that management is not working for our interest. I also think also management should put on preassure on developer to do something with this, otherwise it will be residents paying for it. I think developer has not delivered to expectations. If you sell a gym on the skygarden, I think we should receive a gym. What we got was the cheapest alternative around, and nobody using it.

Is it still there? I just came back from lunch and didn't notice anything already, might have cleared up?

Noticed that the lift lobby grille at Blk 90 took a severe beating and looks like a mangled heap... drunk driver perhaps or silly contractor?

It is so humid recently, I'm melting whenever I'm outside my home/car. Made the mistake of going to the Night Safari and Bottle Tree Park/Village and ended up all hot and sticky.

My guess is that a taxi or visitor's car must have seen the "Exit to Penhas Road" arrow sign and turned out to the side road only to find the gate closed. He/she then reversed out the tight space but could not see the lift lobby grille in the blind spot, thus turning it into a mangled heap.

I have always wondered why the misleading "Exit to Penhas Road" sign was never removed.

i wasn't in town, could anyone tell if the F1 engine roar can be heard at citylights?

Yeah, it could be. Wasn't that loud, but you could hear it.

Yeah, it could be. Wasn't that loud, but you could hear it.

Yep. I can hear the engine roars from Citylights but it's nothing compared to being next to the F1 tracks where it is shockingly loud. It's also nothing compared to shaking hands with Lewis Hamilton the legend and posing for a photo with him and getting his signature. :lol:

The just-opened Kallang Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE) near Citylights is cool. I visited Punggol new town using the KPE and it just takes about 10 minutes to reach there.

3 October 2008

Seven restoration projects win the URA Architectural Heritage Award

The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) has awarded the annual Architectural Heritage Award (AHA) to seven restoration projects.

They are:
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Sri Temasek
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No.12 Ann Siang Road (The Screening Room)
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No.43 Amber Road (The Sea View Clubhouse)
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No.14 Cable Road
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No.42 Cairnhill Road (Tan Chin Tuan Mansion)
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No.120 Cairnhill Road
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No.82 Jellicoe Road (Citylights)

Minister for National Development Mah Bow Tan presented the award at the 2008 Architectural Heritage Award Ceremony held at The Sea View Clubhouse this morning.


About the AHA

Introduced in 1995, the URA Architectural Heritage Award is given out yearly to promote quality restoration of monuments and buildings with preservation and conservation status in Singapore.

The award recognises owners, professionals and contractors who have gone the extra mile to thoughtfully and sensitively restore heritage buildings to their former glory.

Awards are given out under two categories:

Category A

This category is mainly for National Monuments and fully conserved buildings in Historic Districts and Good Class Bungalow Areas. Buildings fully conserved according to the restoration principles in other areas are also considered under this category.

They are assessed on how far they adhere to quality restoration principles such as maximum retention, sensitive restoration and careful repair.

Category B

This category is for integrated old and new conservation buildings in the Residential Historic Districts and Secondary Settlement areas.

They are assessed on how well the old elements have been restored and how new elements were innovatively integrated with the old by drawing inspiration from the original architectural design.

With the seven winners this year, a total of 84 restoration projects had received the URA Architectural Heritage Award since 1995.

About the 2008 Winners

The following provides an overview of the seven winning projects. Detailed write-ups are available in Annex A.

Category A

- Sri Temasek, Istana

Built in 1869, Sri Temasek is a stately 19th Century country house with an architectural legacy as diverse as Singapore’s heritage. Now lovingly restored, its Malay influence timber fascia roof and a mysterious Chinese moon-gate are just two among the many architectural gems that were brought back to life with restoration efforts.



- No.12 Ann Siang Road (The Screening Room)

Previously the historical 2-star Damenlou Hotel within the Telok Ayer area, this Art Deco marvel has been reborn as an eclectic film and foodie haven, complete with a screening theatre and a rekindled rooftop under the stars.

- No.43 Amber Road (The Sea View Clubhouse)

Now anchoring a towering collection of six modern condominium blocks, it is hard to imagine that this 2-storey clubhouse was once an all-but-forgotten bungalow.

Category B

- No.14 Cable Road

Once a mess hall used by staff of European trading company, McAlister & Co, this classic mock Tudor-style Black and White has reinvented itself as a contemporary family home, complete with a masterfully designed new annex.

No.42 Cairnhill Road (Tan Chin Tuan Mansion)

Built in the early 1930s, the 2-storey Tan Chin Tuan Mansion stands tall as an outstanding conservation effort and modern day engineering marvel. Sitting in the middle of a small triangular piece of prime real estate, it now faces the future as a beautifully restored mansion with a startling new 20-storey residential tower cantilevered over it.


No.120 Cairnhill Road

First restored in 1995, this double-storey transitional shophouse, circa 1930s, was updated with a new three-storey rear extension and a marvellous tropical rooftop pool terrace.


No.82 Jellicoe Road (Citylights)

Once a row of 16 motor workshops, the reconfigured 10 units of double and triple storey pre-war shophouses have been transformed into high-end townhouses anchoring a modern high-rise residential development.


2008 AHA Exhibition

An exhibition showcasing the seven winners of the 2008 URA Architectural Heritage Awards will be held at The URA Centre as follows. Admission is free.


Date : 4 October 2008 to 14 November 2008.
Venue : The URA Centre Atrium

45 Maxwell Road
Singapore 069118


Opening : Mondays to Fridays, 9am to 7pm
Hours : Saturdays, 9am to 5pm
Closed on Sundays and Public Holidays.

wow, this is a piece of good news for citylights. the townhouse surrounded by high rise buildings is a bold step taken by capitaland. i kind of like this... staying in a landed property, and yet get to enjoy the facilities.

Have visited the exhibition on the awards. No models, but each project is displayed on wall charts and posters with pics taken during the restoration.

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Townhouse featured in last Sunday Times

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The awarding winning Citylights Townhouse

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Townhouse featured in last Sunday Times

Cool. I wonder which townhouse unit has this nice decor.

BTW, the latest Square Rooms ID magazine also featured a Citylights 2-bedroom unit with classy interior decor. I don't have my copy of Square Rooms with me now so can't scan and put it up here but you guys can check it out at most magazine stands.

BTW, the latest Square Rooms ID magazine also featured a Citylights 2-bedroom unit with classy interior decor. I don't have my copy of Square Rooms with me now so can't scan and put it up here but you guys can check it out at most magazine stands.

Please scan a copy of the ID featured in Square Room and post it here. Thank you. I do not intend to buy a copy. :)

Cool. I wonder which townhouse unit has this nice decor.

Just be a "kay po" and look into those townhouses from their front gates you will know which unit. :lol: I will not mention the unit number here.

Hi guys, I am a citylighter too and just found this forum not long ago.

I heard that the developer are doing some sound proofing for some units on the sliding doors to the planters to cut out the traffic noise. Any info on that?

Hi guys, I am a citylighter too and just found this forum not long ago.

I heard that the developer are doing some sound proofing for some units on the sliding doors to the planters to cut out the traffic noise. Any info on that?

Really? I did not hear any news on this. Only the sliding doors to the planters? How about the windows?

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Citylights on a sunny day with blue sky.

Please scan a copy of the ID featured in Square Room and post it here. Thank you. I do not intend to buy a copy. :)

You can just browse for it at the magazine stand if you prefer. I have no access to a scanner as I am travelling now and won't be home until late October which I think by then most people would have seen the magazine at the stands. :)

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Citylights on a sunny day with blue sky.

Your photo looks similar to this pre-TOP photo I posted here last June but yours captured a more photogenic and deeper-blue sky. I believe we took this from the same point on the Rochor River foot bridge:

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URA closes tender for hotel site at Kallang Road/Jellicoe Road
Source : Channel NewsAsia - 9 Oct 2008

The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) has closed the tender for a hotel site at Kallang Road and Jellicoe Road, with only one bid received.

Citywide Land tendered the sole bid of S$51 million for the site which has an area of 4,219.2 square metres and a maximum permissible gross floor area of 18,986 square metres.

The site was launched for public tender in August. It was originally on the reserve list of the Government’s Land Sales Programme. It was offered for a lease period of 99 years.

The announcement of the award of tender will be made after the bid has been evaluated.

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Kallang/Jellicoe Hotel Site Gets $51m Bid: URA
Source : The Business Times, October 9, 2008

The Urban Redevelopment Authority closed the tender for the hotel site at Kallang Road/Jellicoe Road on Thursday, receiving a sole bid at $51 million.

Based on the site area of 45,415 sq ft and a maximum permissable gross floor area of 204,363 sq ft, the unit land price works out to be $249.56 per square foot per plot ratio.

The bidder, Citywide Land Pte Ltd, is thought to be linked to the Hotel 81 chain.

great, another hotel 81 next to CL

Don't be disheartened, the tender has not been awarded yet. Just pray (:

Don't be disheartened, the tender has not been awarded yet. Just pray (:

Even if the tender is awarded and Citywide Land really belongs to Hotel 81, a Hotel 81 with 25 floors, an estimated 455 rooms and a possibly 2,840 sqm commercial/shopping podium next to Citylights is nothing to be disheartened at. :lol:

Even if the tender is awarded and Citywide Land really belongs to Hotel 81, a Hotel 81 with 25 floors, an estimated 455 rooms and a possibly 2,840 sqm commercial/shopping podium next to Citylights is nothing to be disheartened at. :lol:


Why is it that the government does not control the no of hotel81 & Fragrance hotel ? They are actually spoiling the image & reputation :ohno:of S'pore.

Wonder why do we need another hotel next to Blk 813. So no more green parcels and more people hanging around the MRT station next time. :(

Does anyone knows why are some of the parking lots on level 2 carpark still cordon off by tape? It had blocked up more than 10 lots for the past 1-2 months already. Any idea what they were doing or what they did? I avoid parking on level 1 due to the smells of sewers.

Traffic noise can be quite bad sometimes...probably why i seldom open the windows

great, another hotel 81 next to CL

I hope we can appeal this if it does get awarded.

Stop sounding like those Serangoon Gardens idiots

Excuse me?

Why is it that the government does not control the no of hotel81 & Fragrance hotel ? They are actually spoiling the image & reputation :ohno:of S'pore.

Because we are a free-trade port? As long as it is not illegal there is no reason why the government should not allow this to be built. Anyway, nobody knows what plans Citywide has for the land but given the large scale and initial cost of the project, it shouldn't be that bad ...

Wonder why do we need another hotel next to Blk 813. So no more green parcels and more people hanging around the MRT station next time. :(

That's good. I have seen groups of Thai workers having pinics on the empty land next to the Lavender MRT station and they ended up littering the grounds. Having a new hotel on the site should get rid of them.

I think to maximise the cost of the tender plus high building cost currently, i believe they would rather build a higher class hotel to maximise the cost and this is probably a great chance for them to move out of the sleezy low class image that most has come to asscociate them with. Perhaps their new flagship hotel or their crown jewel?

I took this picture from ICA last Saturday evening and got scolded by the security :(

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Even if the tender is awarded and Citywide Land really belongs to Hotel 81, a Hotel 81 with 25 floors, an estimated 455 rooms and a possibly 2,840 sqm commercial/shopping podium next to Citylights is nothing to be disheartened at. :lol:

^^:ohno:

just now saw one car parked near tower 86,the front windscreen broke.dun know is it some act done by people if so the security so relax

just now saw one car parked near tower 86,the front windscreen broke.dun know is it some act done by people if so the security so relax

The car is owned by relation manager who sells Minibonds? :nuts:

Just a poll.

Are you guys sick of the beautiful view provided by Citylights?

I am NOT, for sure. :) The Kallang Basin/City view is still as stunning to me as I first saw it, day and night.

I took this picture from ICA last Saturday evening and got scolded by the security :(

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Impressive - considering there is no tripod. Is the camera lighter than the previous model you're using?

Hotel 81 developer to start new brand at Kallang Road site

14 Oct 08


HOTEL 81-linked Citywide Land has been awarded a hotel site at Kallang/Jellicoe roads and has a new brand in the works.


Caroline Choo, a director at Citywide Land and Hotel 81 Management said: 'We will be creating a new hotel brand for the site, to be completed in two-and-a-half to three years.'

While Ms Choo would not give details of the brand, she said that the new hotel at Kallang/Jellicoe roads is already in the 'development stage' and will be a three-and-a-half to four-star tourist class establishment.

The Urban Redevelopment Authority closed the tender for the site on Oct 9, with only one bid of $51 million from Citywide Land.

Based on the site of 45,415 sq ft and a maximum permissible gross floor area of 204,363 sq ft, the unit land price works out to $249.56 per sq ft per plot ratio (psf ppr).

Citywide Land's bid was the same as the committed bid received by URA in August that led to the reserve list site being put up for public tender.

When the tender was closed last week, market watchers were uncertain if the site would be awarded as only one bid came in.

According to Cushman & Wakefield managing director Donald Han: 'Technically speaking, the bid does reflect the market price.'

He noted that as the committed bid was made in August, several months before the recent meltdown in the global financial markets, it is not unreasonable to expect that the market price could be even lower today.

He also believes the site may have been awarded because of a shortage of hotel rooms here and to 'jumpstart' the rejuvenation of the Kallang area.

Based on the bid price of $51 million and a projected yield of 8 per cent, Mr Han reckons room rates could be in the vicinity of $100-$120 a night.

Knight Frank director (research and consultancy) Nicholas Mak said that it is rare for a development site to be awarded at the trigger price, but the business environment does look challenging.

Despite the credit crunch, he reckons Citywide should not find it too difficult to get funding for the project. Lenders are likely to see potential value in the site because Citywide Land's winning bid is 60-80 per cent lower than some earlier estimated prices in August.

Also in August, a hotel site at Balestier was awarded even though the top bid was below market expectations at $172.09 psf ppr.


By ARTHUR SIM
Business Times

The car is owned by relation manager who sells Minibonds? :nuts:

hahaha.so who the resident who bought from him?:nuts:

More and more Hotel 81s lately. Like the old Hong Ban Leong Bldg at Jalan Besar became Hotel 81.. So did a few shophouses opposite Selegie House, just a few shophouses away from Frangrance Selegie. The newest one is the odd bungalow-cum-shophouse opposite Textile Centre.

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Hotel 81 developer to start new brand at Kallang Road site


This is exactly what I thought would happen. By registering a new company called Citywide Land, the purpose is to start a new identity for a new class of hotels differentiated from the usual budget hotels they own just like many other international chains such as the US-based Carlson Hotels which runs brands like Regent, Radisson, Park Plaza, Park Inn etc. for different markets and budgets.

My guess is that the new brand would be called "Citywide Hotel" ...

The car is owned by relation manager who sells Minibonds? :nuts:

Hehe ... good one. Not mine though. :lol:

Just a poll.

Are you guys sick of the beautiful view provided by Citylights?

I am NOT, for sure. :) The Kallang Basin/City view is still as stunning to me as I first saw it, day and night.

Still love the view from Citylights. However, night views have never been the same since 31st March 2008 when the darned land acquistion act caused the colourful lightings of the Kallang Oasis hexagonal buildings over the bay to be switched off permanently. The Kallang bay looks kinda of dark and gloomy after that. :ohno:

This is exactly what I thought would happen. By registering a new company called Citywide Land, the purpose is to start a new identity for a new class of hotels differentiated from the usual budget hotels they own just like many other international chains such as the US-based Carlson Hotels which runs brands like Regent, Radisson, Park Plaza, Park Inn etc. for different markets and budgets.

My guess is that the new brand would be called "Citywide Hotel" ...

Think it is mentioned that the hotel is more likely to be 3 1/2 star, it is the logical way to start a new brand since hotel 81 name has been asscociated with budget than luxury

Just a poll.

Are you guys sick of the beautiful view provided by Citylights?

I am NOT, for sure. :) The Kallang Basin/City view is still as stunning to me as I first saw it, day and night.

just like the fast food restuaurant lines.I'm lovin it:banana:

given a huge decline in some properties.can see CL still hold its price vey well.actually recently just held my house warming,everyone comments this is one of the best development.Great location,great view,atmosphere inside condo is good and central area but to the extend too central.one of my friend even said should get CL instead of his XXXX condo.:cheers:

seen from the ura website.one unit sold during june 08 selling at 1402psf.is it a record highest psf so far?

Do keep a lookout for stagnant water around the neighbourhood. Spotted this 22nd floor balcony that's flooded with water. I think the drainage is choked and the owners are not in. Can be seen from 24th floor sky garden. :ohno:

NEA personnels went door to door and went around the condo doing checks on stagnant water. Wonder if they found any traces of aedes mosquitoes.

Do keep a lookout for stagnant water around the neighbourhood. Spotted this 22nd floor balcony that's flooded with water. I think the drainage is choked and the owners are not in. Can be seen from 24th floor sky garden. :ohno:

Saw the same unit from 24th level sky garden last Friday. Quite worried about it too.

Saw the same unit from 24th level sky garden last Friday. Quite worried about it too.

That's really terrible, no wonder I've been getting bitten by mozzies the last few weeks on and off! In fact I just swatted one and it was huge!

I was in when NEA came around knocking and just a look-see and nothing much. Please drop a note to Angeline regarding that unit with a flooded planter and any other flooded planters for that matter. I make a point to keep mine clear and unblocked so I don't see why others can't do the same :ohno:

Use the online website to lodge a service request, it's effective. I put in a request during the weekend and on Monday morning Angeline came knocking on my door personally. Talk about great response and attitude, kudos!

Just to add, I bought one of those insect zapping machines just for protection's sake, so far so good! Try to get one that emits CO2 and not just one that emits ultraviolet light, it will attract mozzies more as it is akin to a human exhaling carbon dioxide.

Kallang could roar again
Channel NewsAsia - Wednesday, October 22

SINGAPORE : Both the semi—finals and final of the Asean Football Federation (AFF) Suzuki Cup in December are played over two legs, home and away.

If defending champions Singapore do make it to the last four, they will play their semi—final home leg at Bishan Stadium, which holds a capacity of 4,254 fans.

But with the 55,000—capacity National Stadium yet to be torn down to make way for the proposed S$1.87 billion Sports Hub, there is a chance the old Kallang Roar could being heard once again.

“It is our understanding that the National Stadium may (still) be available,” said Football Association of Singapore (FAS) spokesperson Eric Ong.

“We have already scheduled a meeting with the Singapore Sports Council (SSC) to work out the relevant details before the AFF are invited for an inspection visit. We can expect this to be done within the next couple of weeks.”

“The larger—capacity National Stadium would allow as many Singaporeans as possible the opportunity to support the Lions in their quest to defend their title as champions of South—east Asia,” he added.

The 2008 Suzuki Cup will be co—hosted by Indonesia and Thailand from December 5—28.

Singapore have been drawn in Group A with Indonesia and Myanmar, while Thailand, Malaysia and Vietnam are in Group B.

Each group will be joined by a qualifier, with Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines and Timor Leste all in the mix for the qualifying competition, which kicked off last Friday in Phnom Penh.

The first—leg of the semi—finals will be played on December 16 and 17, with the return matches scheduled on December 20 and 21, while the two—legged final will be held on December 24 and 28.

The FAS had nominated Bishan Stadium in July as its designated venue for the home leg of the semi—final and final, should Singapore qualify.

They are currently working with the SSC on getting the stadium ready, while also exploring the possibility of increasing the capacity.

But with the Sports Hub project set to be delayed due to the global financial crisis, the FAS are now keen to use the National Stadium.

In January last year, a capacity crowd at Kallang watched Singapore beat Thailand 2—1 in the first—leg of the 2007 Asean Football Championship Final.

The last time a football match was held at the National Stadium was in July, when the Lions lost 3—0 to the Brazil Olympic side in a friendly.

When contacted on Tuesday, SSC chief (sports facilities group) Kenneth Hui said: “As long as the National Stadium is available prior to the construction of the new Sports Hub, the SSC assess requests to use the National Stadium on a case—by—case basis and will only consider allowing it to be used in exceptional circumstances.

“Should FAS request for the usage of the stadium, the SSC will consider re—opening it so that more Singaporeans may have the opportunity to watch the Asean Football Championship 2008 (AFF Suzuki Cup 2008).” — TODAY/rose

With the global credit freeze making everybody wondering when the Sports Hub can ever get built, the SSC might as well forget about the Sports Hub plans and spend less money by upgrading the existing National Stadium which is still a pretty solid structure. They should also bring back the colourful and bright night life at Kallang Oasis.

Kallang could roar again
Channel NewsAsia - Wednesday, October 22

SINGAPORE : Both the semi—finals and final of the Asean Football Federation (AFF) Suzuki Cup in December are played over two legs, home and away.

If defending champions Singapore do make it to the last four, they will play their semi—final home leg at Bishan Stadium, which holds a capacity of 4,254 fans.

But with the 55,000—capacity National Stadium yet to be torn down to make way for the proposed S$1.87 billion Sports Hub, there is a chance the old Kallang Roar could being heard once again.

“It is our understanding that the National Stadium may (still) be available,” said Football Association of Singapore (FAS) spokesperson Eric Ong.

seen from the ura website.one unit sold during june 08 selling at 1402psf.is it a record highest psf so far?

I think 1450 psf or there-about was achieved sometime last year during the property fever. Good to know Citylights resale prices have been pretty resilient but after seeing the devastation and gloom in the world financial markets, anything is possible now.

given a huge decline in some properties.can see CL still hold its price vey well.actually recently just held my house warming,everyone comments this is one of the best development.Great location,great view,atmosphere inside condo is good and central area but to the extend too central.one of my friend even said should get CL instead of his XXXX condo.:cheers:

True. Citylights has great view and location with decent landscaping. I notice my visitors on their first visit to Citylights would make their way to the full-height windows to stare at the view outside.

I believe Angeline has already taken note of it, although I'm not sure what measures are in place to address problems like this. Apparently, the owner is not in. I assume even the NEA won't have the authority to forcibly open the premises? Unless there's a foul stench coming from that unit, and maggots are seen crawling out....:sly:

I think 1450 psf or there-about was achieved sometime last year during the property fever. Good to know Citylights resale prices have been pretty resilient but after seeing the devastation and gloom in the world financial markets, anything is possible now.

true,btw what is the rental psf for cl at this point of time.

But I also hear that it's quite noisy at CL?

But I also hear that it's quite noisy at CL?

There is traffic noise but it is quite bearable in the day and people do get used to it. However at night, any sudden noise would be very obvious and intrusive, e.g., a speeding motorbike passing by at 1 am. Most of the time if we do not open the windows fully so the noise is not that bad.

Not as quiet as my last place (which is very quiet) but still acceptable.

I believe Angeline has already taken note of it, although I'm not sure what measures are in place to address problems like this. Apparently, the owner is not in. I assume even the NEA won't have the authority to forcibly open the premises? Unless there's a foul stench coming from that unit, and maggots are seen crawling out....:sly:

stench? maggots? Oh no, hopefully is not another case of .. ahem .. highly decomposed body. Oops sorry !!! :runaway::runaway:

stench? maggots? Oh no, hopefully is not another case of .. ahem .. highly decomposed body. Oops sorry !!! :runaway::runaway:

Had a peep at that unit's planter yesterday night. I think the owners finally cleared the blockage. :)

Had a peep at that unit's planter yesterday night. I think the owners finally cleared the blockage. :)

Phew ~~~ he's still Staying Alive. sing: ha~ha~ha ... staying alive :banana:

There's another unit on the 22nd floor ...... its planter area is littered with old magazine, a running short and dirt. You can see from the 24th floor sky terrace that the unit's drainage hole in the planter area is choked with dirt. :bash:

Had a peep at that unit's planter yesterday night. I think the owners finally cleared the blockage. :)

The owner is a regular here??

can see some units putting up lights at their planter n window.is it to celebrate christmas.haha

can see some units putting up lights at their planter n window.is it to celebrate christmas.haha

hmmmm ~~~ the lightings were up before the deepavali and even the Hari Raya Puasa. I think that was their festive lightings. :tyty:

hmmmm ~~~ the lightings were up before the deepavali and even the Hari Raya Puasa. I think that was their festive lightings. :tyty:

haha,maybe by start of next month even more units putting up lights.

It's cityLIGHTS!!

can see some units putting up lights at their planter n window.is it to celebrate christmas.haha

If you look across the bay to the Tanjong Rhu condos, you could also see some blinking festive lights at the windows of the buildings there. Same reasons I think.

I am planning to decorate my windows with lightings in December. I am hoping everyone can do so for your units .... yes, let's make Citylights --- cityLIGHTS ! like whatt citylander has mentioned. :banana:

If you look across the bay to the Tanjong Rhu condos, you could also see some blinking festive lights at the windows of the buildings there. Same reasons I think.

wow,Maverick713 you really got good eyesight even i perfect eyesight also never notice that until you mentioned to look carefully then noticed that.

I am planning to decorate my windows with lightings in December. I am hoping everyone can do so for your units .... yes, let's make Citylights --- cityLIGHTS ! like whatt citylander has mentioned. :banana:

haha,then i will look out so i will assume that unit is yours.:lol:actually might have intention to place christmas tree near the planter so it will look nice outside from the main road.

CSC already! What next? How/when can form Management Committee?

I think 1450 psf or there-about was achieved sometime last year during the property fever. Good to know Citylights resale prices have been pretty resilient but after seeing the devastation and gloom in the world financial markets, anything is possible now.

1450psf was done this year in aug, not last year. but sold with reno and appliances.

going to remove the protection in the lifts soon. Will be better ...

1450psf was done this year in aug, not last year. but sold with reno and appliances.

Let me guess .... you sold your unit at 1450psf in August? Anyway, I remember seeing > $1400 psf in the URA resale transaction site during the property boom last year.

going to remove the protection in the lifts soon. Will be better ...

Nice. Hopefully nobody damages the lift fittings after that. People are still moving furnitures in and out on some weekends.

I wonder what the MA is doing recently with the outdoor gym sets at 24th floor during the past few weeks..... was wishing they replaced them with something nicer.

Yes I also hoped they were going to replace the outdoor gym with something "real". The equipment is something your find in parks, and you can't really call it a gym. I think the developer has gotten away with it too easy

Anyone has any idea about latest bank valuation of citylight?

Project Name-CITYLIGHTS
Developer-Woodsvale Land Pte Ltd(CapitaLand Limited)
Property Type-Condominium
Tenure - 99 Yrs From 05/01/2004
Total Units - 600
Completion Date - Dec-2007
District - 8

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get more info ,floor plans and walk though the 720 degree virtual tour from:

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/citylights

:)

do anyone have the plan for the skygarden? I know I saw a plan for it before buying at CL. I see they call it Fitness station next to the play ground for the kids, but call it out door gym on the sky garden. Seems we ended up with fitness station where it should have been a gym??

Project Name-CITYLIGHTS
Developer-Woodsvale Land Pte Ltd(CapitaLand Limited)
Property Type-Condominium
Tenure - 99 Yrs From 05/01/2004
Total Units - 600
Completion Date - Dec-2007
District - 8


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That picture above is not Citylights. I think it is the RiverEdge at Tanjong Rhu. Why put this picture here?

do anyone have the plan for the skygarden? I know I saw a plan for it before buying at CL. I see they call it Fitness station next to the play ground for the kids, but call it out door gym on the sky garden. Seems we ended up with fitness station where it should have been a gym??

I think it was called an Outdoor Gym in the 24th floor's plans but I can only confirm when I can see my brochure back home. Currently not in town.

Anyone has any idea about latest bank valuation of citylight?

not too sure but i think CL still hold quite a good price at this point of time as compared to some other projects.one of the best and secure properties i had bought if to compare.

Poor layouts again

Any comments to the lifts after the protection is gone. I think its nice, but maybe a bit boring?

That picture above is not Citylights. I think it is the RiverEdge at Tanjong Rhu. Why put this picture here?

The photos are taken in Citylights.

Any comments to the lifts after the protection is gone. I think its nice, but maybe a bit boring?

I think the interior of the lifts is very nice. A bit of a Zen-look.

The photos are taken in Citylights.

Not really. Citylights do not have exposed corridors and skydeck on lower floors like these. I think the website owner realised it was a wrong picture as they have deleted it.

I think the interior of the lifts is very nice. A bit of a Zen-look.

I was half-expecting to see posters advertising hotel restaurants and club facilities on the lift walls because the lift designs look like those I see in some hotels.

Overall the lift looks nice. Did they remember to remove the protection in the clubhouse's lift? The last I use it they have not done so.

Not really. Citylights do not have exposed corridors and skydeck on lower floors like these. I think the website owner realised it was a wrong picture as they have deleted it.

I see. I did not see the photo you mentioned above.

I see. I did not see the photo you mentioned above.

The photo is gone. The owner has deleted it from his website as it was not taken at Citylights.

Prices were stable in Oct 08. Did the prices plunge in Nov & Dec 08?

Price: 1,111,800
Area: 872 sq ft
Unit price: 1,275 psf
Date: Oct-08

Price: 1,903,440
Area: 1,442 sq ft
Unit Price: 1,320 psf
Date: Oct-08

Price: 973,370
Area: 893 aq ft
Unit Price: 1,089 psf
Date: Oct-08

Just taken from URA...

S$1,326,640
1,442 sq ft
S$920 psf
Nov-08

Dunno which floor it is, but is the lowest price recorded for the past 1 year (only 2 out of 88 transactions in the past 1 yr dropped below S$1000 psf)... the start of more sub-S$1kpsf transactions?

The photo is gone. The owner has deleted it from his website as it was not taken at Citylights.

Yo! Back again ;D

Anyway I find the lift designs nice, especially the flooring which looks shiny and good. However, I find that the architect should have used more hardy materials for the majority of the lift and not the laminate that we see now as it would be easy to vandalise the lift. I would prefer a mish mash of mirrors, marble, steel etc.

The best lifts in a condo I have seen is Far East's lifts. They are well designed, grand and hardy materials.

Business Times - 19 Dec 2008

Sale of Kallang River hotel plot delayed
URA says release of the site will be deferred to June 2009
By UMA SHANKARI

THE Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) has deferred the release of a hotel site along Kallang River from this month to June 2009. The site was originally due to be made available for December 2008, as part of the government's plans to transform the Kallang Riverside into a waterfront lifestyle precinct by the edge of the city.

'URA is currently working with other agencies to finalise the detailed planning and development conditions of the Kallang River site to relate to the broader plans for Kallang Riverside and, as more time is needed, the release of this site at Kallang River on the reserve list will be deferred to June 2009,' the agency said yesterday.

The deferment 'makes sense' as the site is unlikely to be triggered in the current market conditions even if it is made available, market watchers said.

URA also announced yesterday that a commercial site at the corner of Stamford Road and North Bridge Road is now open for application under the reserve list system.

The site contains three historical buildings - Capitol Theatre, Capitol Building and Stamford House - that are to be retained and restored for use. The Capitol Theatre, for one, is required to be restored into an arts or entertainment-related performance venue, said URA.

And to strengthen the hotel cluster in the area, the developer of the site will be required to develop a minimum of 40 per cent of the total gross floor area (GFA) for hotel use as well.

Analysts said that the site is unlikely to see interest anytime soon. 'This is an irreplaceable site in terms of its location and heritage value but the timing may be inappropriate to realise its full potential,' said Ku Swee Yong, director of marketing and business development at Savills Singapore.

'I don't think the site will be triggered in the next six months,' said Nicholas Mak, director of research and consultancy at Knight Frank.

Other than the poor economic outlook, potential bidders are also likely to be deterred by a few other factors, he said. For one, the conservation element might put off some developers. Others are likely to be deterred by the fact that some of the GFA has to be devoted to hotel use.

Developers are also not too keen on the 'two envelope' system, under which the site is being sold, Mr Mak said. Under such a system, the government first picks out developers whose concepts gel with its vision, then awards the site to the highest bidder.

Analysts also expressed concern that if the government keeps releasing sites on the reserve list, there could soon be too many sites on the list.

hi guys, can somebody feedback on how has your phone reception been, esp with ST? I'm with M1 and am looking at switching cos lines get choppy or dropped off quite frequently when I'm in the living room. Wonder if guys with ST could comment. tks

hi guys, can somebody feedback on how has your phone reception been, esp with ST? I'm with M1 and am looking at switching cos lines get choppy or dropped off quite frequently when I'm in the living room. Wonder if guys with ST could comment. tks

ST is equally bad. I complaint several times to them and each time they claimed that they'll send an engineer to come down to check. They're purely NATO (No Action Talk Only) :bash:

It's pretty bad with Starhub as well, though they have improved significantly since we first moved in. It used to be impossible to talk, but now you can at least have a conversation with the occasional "dead time".

hi guys, can somebody feedback on how has your phone reception been, esp with ST? I'm with M1 and am looking at switching cos lines get choppy or dropped off quite frequently when I'm in the living room. Wonder if guys with ST could comment. tks

I am with M1 and initially had reception problems around Citylights right after getting keys. However, the problem has mostly disappeared since then. Maybe you are on a very high floor when you have problems?

Business Times - 19 Dec 2008

Sale of Kallang River hotel plot delayed
URA says release of the site will be deferred to June 2009
By UMA SHANKARI

THE Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) has deferred the release of a hotel site along Kallang River from this month to June 2009. The site was originally due to be made available for December 2008, as part of the government's plans to transform the Kallang Riverside into a waterfront lifestyle precinct by the edge of the city.


Thanks to the financial turmoil, we are seeing mega-projects postponed such as this Kallang Riverfront hotel, the Rochor-Ophir commercial site, the South Beach commercial site and the Singapore Sports Hub. The only project near Citylights that might proceed as planned is the hotel site next to Lavender MRT.

Latest URA transaction at $920psf for a 1442 sf unit. In Oct was $1320psf. Dropped of 40%!!

ST is equally bad. I complaint several times to them and each time they claimed that they'll send an engineer to come down to check. They're purely NATO (No Action Talk Only) :bash:

It's pretty bad with Starhub as well, though they have improved significantly since we first moved in. It used to be impossible to talk, but now you can at least have a conversation with the occasional "dead time".

I am with M1 and initially had reception problems around Citylights right after getting keys. However, the problem has mostly disappeared since then. Maybe you are on a very high floor when you have problems?

wow, looks like none of the operator is doing well here. when i first had the prob, they said it was my 2G sim card. upgraded it to 3G, prob still exist. how man like tt?

:ohno:the plants at the sky terrace seem to be blocking the walk area

Sky terrace:
- before you didn't want to use it as facilities are poor
- soon you can't use it, as the plants are growing everywhere

Amazing how they have managed to block the entire view to the north with plants and walls. What is the point of having the terrace on the 24th floor if you don't take advantage of the view?

Also they have given us a fitness station, when they sold us a gym :-(

Sky terrace:
- before you didn't want to use it as facilities are poor
- soon you can't use it, as the plants are growing everywhere

Amazing how they have managed to block the entire view to the north with plants and walls. What is the point of having the terrace on the 24th floor if you don't take advantage of the view?

Also they have given us a fitness station, when they sold us a gym :-(

ya,so sad.one thing for sure we dun pay the maintance for nothing.almost everyday i can see the workers working and cleaning up the place

It would probably be less work (and costs) to maintain the skygarden if it was a normal one with a tables / sitting groups etc - instead of a jungle

It would probably be less work (and costs) to maintain the skygarden if it was a normal one with a tables / sitting groups etc - instead of a jungle

Being lush and full of plants makes it a pleasant spot to spend time in, if they can provide some comfy all-weather sofa seats. The major problem is that the north-side view should not have been blocked off by plants, leaving only the view towards the bay/sea.

Unless a new MC is formed, I don't think Capitaland wants to do anything on this issue.

:ohno:the plants at the sky terrace seem to be blocking the walk area

Not just on the sky terrace but also at the external perimeter of the fences. The overgrown vines on the fences are intruding on the public paths outside Citylights, making it a bit tricky to walk next to the fence at Penhas Road to the side-gate. Gotta dodge the vines when walking on the outer path.

Not just on the sky terrace but also at the external perimeter of the fences. The overgrown vines on the fences are intruding on the public paths outside Citylights, making it a bit tricky to walk next to the fence at Penhas Road to the side-gate. Gotta dodge the vines when walking on the outer path.

ya,true.i agreed.esp the walkway near the side gate

if you guys interested can join citylights@facebook since one of the resident set up a page there but need him to approve you before entering the page

I met up with a friend of mine livng in a condo in Leonie Hill. His condo also has a skygarden. Really cosy sitting groups there, and we ended up sitting on the sky garden for several hours drinking wine. I would never have done this in CL. The problem is that it is not inviting to spend time there for more than just a few minutes. I never see anybody using the jaccuzzi either as the water is cold and not giving any privacy. If a new MC is formed, can anything be done?

In the lift - it says sky garden for the 24th floor, it would be nice if it was something similar for 6th floor - visitors / tennis

I also find the 6th floor much nicer than the 24th floor.

The wind/breeze from the North (北风) was very strong and cold of late. Have not been switching on aircons for weeks.

Can save some electric bills in this uncertain times :lol:.

I get the same cool, strong wind at my flat at North Bridge Road. It happens in Jan/Feb every year.

My unit 3 BR still vacant until now (after 1 month since my last tenant terminated their lease), i guess the property market is seriously bad now.. :ohno:

I get the same cool, strong wind at my flat at North Bridge Road. It happens in Jan/Feb every year.

I think this year the wind speed of the north-east monsoon's prevailing wind is exceptionally strong (an abnormal 30-40km/h) but dry. This is probably one of the driest January where the grass are wiltering despite cooler weather, due to a lack of rain.

My unit 3 BR still vacant until now (after 1 month since my last tenant terminated their lease), i guess the property market is seriously bad now.. :ohno:

Not just the property market is bad .... some things are already much worse. If we are lucky, we should all still have jobs by the end of the year.

Citylights would remain attractive to tenants when the economy recovers due to the 4 nearby MRT lines (CCL, EWL, NSL add DTL3) plus closeness to the CBD.

My unit 3 BR still vacant until now (after 1 month since my last tenant terminated their lease), i guess the property market is seriously bad now.. :ohno:

With more expats packing their bags + more TOPs, the rental market will only get worse. :ohno:

Citylights as seen from Marina South.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/3026571584_31a087a410_b.jpg

The photographer stays in Citylights. More of his amazing pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/archisculpture

Some of the winds are really strong. It manage to slam my window which was 80% opened. Really dont have to switch on air con.

its nice with the wind, and I would leave my windows open if it wasn't for all the noise from the trafic - Think how perfect CL would be without the noise.

My unit 3 BR still vacant until now (after 1 month since my last tenant terminated their lease), i guess the property market is seriously bad now.. :ohno:

actually not really.i just found a tenant for my unit to be hand over next month.in fact i still manage to get abit higher than the market rate in CL and i even rejected some offer by the tenant.think provided the tenant love the interior.

its nice with the wind, and I would leave my windows open if it wasn't for all the noise from the trafic - Think how perfect CL would be without the noise.

not only that i even experience an accident with big bang on thur 3am along kallang road and the whole street suddenly went black out for awhile and i even helped to call the police when saw that at the planter area.:ohno:

not only that i even experience an accident with big bang on thur 3am along kallang road and the whole street suddenly went black out for awhile and i even helped to call the police when saw that at the planter area.:ohno:

No wonder the emergency response came so fast that night. Hope that poor fellow is alright now. The public works people have also worked fast to repair the damaged street signs.

The stretch of Kallang Road in front of Da Pei Buddhist Centre / Pico-Art HQ has been quite an accident-prone area. Over the years, I have read in the papers of at least 4 fatal accidents around that spot - 3 of which took place at night. The weird angle of the road and high speed of cars along that stretch probably make things worse.

I met up with a friend of mine livng in a condo in Leonie Hill. His condo also has a skygarden. Really cosy sitting groups there, and we ended up sitting on the sky garden for several hours drinking wine. I would never have done this in CL. The problem is that it is not inviting to spend time there for more than just a few minutes. I never see anybody using the jaccuzzi either as the water is cold and not giving any privacy. If a new MC is formed, can anything be done?

There are possible improvements for sure, if a new MC is started by volunteering owners.

I had just visited City Square Residences nearby. Their gym is so well-equipped and well-thought that it really blew me away. It is about the same size as the Citylights' gym but has alot more equipment. There are 5 trackmills (CL has 4), 2 cross-trainers (CL has none), 2 stationary bikes and 1 multi-gym set (CL residents asked for this but rejected). Their gym also has nice piped-in music and 2 LCD TVs which makes the place more conducive.

BBQ pits? They have 10 of these!! Function Rooms?? Two!! Karaoke Rooms?? Three!!

Their bowling alley is not ready yet. Facilites in CSR are numerous but yet their land size is roughly equal to ours.

I had just visited City Square Residences nearby. Their gym is so well-equipped and well-thought that it really blew me away. It is about the same size as the Citylights' gym but has alot more equipment. There are 5 trackmills (CL has 4), 2 cross-trainers (CL has none), 2 stationary bikes and 1 multi-gym set (CL residents asked for this but rejected). Their gym also has nice piped-in music and 2 LCD TVs which makes the place more conducive.

BBQ pits? They have 10 of these!! Function Rooms?? Two!! Karaoke Rooms?? Three!!

Their bowling alley is not ready yet. Facilites in CSR are numerous but yet their land size is roughly equal to ours.

That is probably because CSR has over 900 units compared to CL with about 600.

That is probably because CSR has over 900 units compared to CL with about 600.

haha you took the words right out of my mouth

not only that i even experience an accident with big bang on thur 3am along kallang road and the whole street suddenly went black out for awhile and i even helped to call the police when saw that at the planter area.:ohno:

Oh, really? My windows were wide open and I did not hear it. I guess I was too tired sleeping after some drinks. :nuts:

actually not really.i just found a tenant for my unit to be hand over next month.in fact i still manage to get abit higher than the market rate in CL and i even rejected some offer by the tenant.think provided the tenant love the interior.

Is yours a smaller unit? I guess 3BR is more difficult to rent out at the moment.

That is probably because CSR has over 900 units compared to CL with about 600.

Yes, I thought of that. The number of units are 30% more in CSR. However, the number of recreational facilities (e.g. 10 BBQ pits versus 2 in CL, 3 KTV rooms versus 1 in CL, 2 function rooms versus 1 in CL) are like 2 to 5 times more!!

However,the overall development feels more congested with many units and the future mall facing inwards to the pool area. Lift lobbies are quite dark and stuffy. Residents in the lower to mid floor units might have a problem with the loud and never-ending gushing noise from the waterfalls, fountains and children play pool.

No wonder the emergency response came so fast that night. Hope that poor fellow is alright now. The public works people have also worked fast to repair the damaged street signs.

The stretch of Kallang Road in front of Da Pei Buddhist Centre / Pico-Art HQ has been quite an accident-prone area. Over the years, I have read in the papers of at least 4 fatal accidents around that spot - 3 of which took place at night. The weird angle of the road and high speed of cars along that stretch probably make things worse.

okay,then i better be more careful in future when driving along kallang road

Oh, really? My windows were wide open and I did not hear it. I guess I was too tired sleeping after some drinks. :nuts:

haha,you must be too tired and didn't notice that.cause you are enjoying

Is yours a smaller unit? I guess 3BR is more difficult to rent out at the moment.

ya,but i'm sure you still able to rent out soon.there always market there for CL.dun have to worry.:cheers:

Looks like in the next few years we are going to see a huge 902-rooms Citywide hotel next to Citylights plus a new Prominent Plaza with shop space along Lavender Street ....

Rush for URA approvals before window closed

Dated: 01.29.09

All’s quiet on the property front but developers secured a raft of approvals (provisional permission) for private residential projects from the Urban Redevelopment Authority in the last quarter of 2008.

The key reason for this is that developers rushed to make their submissions for provisional permission (PP) before a new ruling that scraps the exemption of bay windows and planter boxes from gross floor area (GFA) took effect on Jan 1, noted Credo Real Estate MD Karamjit Singh.

He said: ‘With effect from Jan 1, 2009, for any submission for PP, URA will consider bay windows and planter boxes as part of GFA, and that brings down the total saleable area in a project by about 5-12 per cent. So developers were making submissions to secure PP before the change in ruling kicked in - even if they didn’t intend to develop or launch their projects in the near future, given the current downturn.’

Agreeing, DTZ executive director Ong Choon Fah said: ‘Bay windows and planter boxes are an important contributor to developers’ profit margins. In the past when they bought land, they would have assumed these would be exempt from GFA.’

Hong Realty (part of the Hong Leong Group) received PP in Q4 2008 for a 1,517-unit condo project at Pasir Ris Drive 8, while Far East Organization unit Arts Associate Co secured URA’s approval for a 234-unit condo at Jalan Datoh/Jalan Dusun in the Balestier area. And Bukit Sembawang bagged PP for a 200-unit condo at St Thomas Walk.

Horizon Partners Pte Ltd - whose shareholders are Hotel Properties, Morgan Stanley Real Estate and Qatar Investment Authority - picked up URA’s consent to develop a 253-unit condo and eight detached houses on the Horizon Towers site at Leonie Hill Road.

URA also granted PP between October and December to NTUC Choice Homes unit Choice Homes Gamma for a 571-unit condo at Lor 2/3 Toa Payoh; to TID Pte Ltd for a 282-unit condo at New Upper Changi Road/ Tanah Merah Kechil Ave; and to an MCL Land unit for a 520-unit condo at Yishun Ave 1/2 fronting Lower Seletar Reservoir. The three proposed developments are on 99-year leasehold sites sold through the Government Land Sales Programme last year.

Casuarina Properties, controlled by the Lee Foundation and members of the Lee family, received URA’s permission for a cluster housing development at Mount Rosie comprising 191 terrace homes and two semi-detached units.

The proposed Pasir Ris condo project by Hong Realty is on a massive 2.1 million square feet plot that Hong Leong Group owns in Pasir Ris - which the 1,822-unit Livia condo launched last year is part of. City Developments has a 51 per cent stake in the site. Sources say the site was bought for just $10 million decades ago, was originally treated as land for rural or agricultural use and had restrictions on its title.

In the commercial property segment, Hotel 81-linked Citywide Land secured PP to develop a 902-room hotel at Kallang Road in Q4. The project will also have about 4,090 sq ft gross floor area of shop space.

At Jalan Besar/Lavender Street, Prominent Plaza Investments/Prominent Site Pte Ltd secured URA’s consent to develop about 133,800 sq ft of offices and 13,500 sq ft of shop space. Over at Changi Business Park Ave 1, United Engineers Developments picked up URA’s consent for a project comprising a 301-room hotel and 59,740 sq ft of shop space.

URA also approved several industrial property projects in Q4. Keppel Shipyard received PP for additions and alterations to its existing factory at Pioneer Sector 1, as did Yamazaki Mazak Singapore for its existing plant at Joo Koon Circle.

URA also granted PP for factory developments to General Magnetics (at Lorong 4 Toa Payoh), Index-Cool Furniture Design & Construction’s (Eunos Avenue 3) and Oxley Opportunity #9 Pte Ltd (Pioneer Crescent).

Source : Business Times - 29 Jan 2009

Any idea how tall will the hotel be?

Got the answer. Not more than 25 storeys.

Any idea how tall will the hotel be?

Maximum building height allowed is 25 storeys as listed in the URA land sale website. Since they are planning to have 902 rooms, I would think they would build this hotel skyscraper to the maximum height allowed. Most rooms might be small though.

I am keen to know where this Prominent Plaza's site is going to be. My guess is that it would replace the current Eminent Plaza and Lavender Food Court.

I am keen to know where this Prominent Plaza's site is going to be. My guess is that it would replace the current Eminent Plaza and Lavender Food Court.

That is what I guess so too. It is unlikely to be the empty land opp Eminent Plaza because the empty land is not situated at "Jalan Besar/Lavender Street".

Did you guys see the Chingay vehicles driving through Kallang on Saturday?

Did you guys see the Chingay vehicles driving through Kallang on Saturday?

Yes, the parade floats were passing by Citylights to get to/from the PA HQ at Old Kallang Airport. I saw them on Friday, Saturday and also Sunday along the CTE at Braddell area as they were heading to the heartlands in the north.

We would see more of these floats every year when the PA HQ moves to their new site at the former Victoria School just a short walk from Citylights.

Yes, the parade floats were passing by Citylights to get to/from the PA HQ at Old Kallang Airport. I saw them on Friday, Saturday and also Sunday along the CTE at Braddell area as they were heading to the heartlands in the north.

We would see more of these floats every year when the PA HQ moves to their new site at the former Victoria School just a short walk from Citylights.


The PA HQ is the one that is still under construction beside Jalan Besah Stadium, near Maude road?

If that is the case, then we will have an extremely close up view of the floats...

The PA HQ is the one that is still under construction beside Jalan Besah Stadium, near Maude road?

If that is the case, then we will have an extremely close up view of the floats...

Yes, that's right. The new PA HQ has been discussed in this thread - Old Victoria School at Tyrwhitt Rd coming back to life (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=432970).

Yes, that's right. The new PA HQ has been discussed in this thread - Old Victoria School at Tyrwhitt Rd coming back to life (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=432970).

Thanks for the info. It seems to be delayed from its proposed opening date in 2008. What are the facilities there?

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Originally Posted by Maverick713

I had just visited City Square Residences nearby. Their gym is so well-equipped and well-thought that it really blew me away. It is about the same size as the Citylights' gym but has alot more equipment. There are 5 trackmills (CL has 4), 2 cross-trainers (CL has none), 2 stationary bikes and 1 multi-gym set (CL residents asked for this but rejected). Their gym also has nice piped-in music and 2 LCD TVs which makes the place more conducive.

BBQ pits? They have 10 of these!! Function Rooms?? Two!! Karaoke Rooms?? Three!!

Their bowling alley is not ready yet. Facilites in CSR are numerous but yet their land size is roughly equal to ours.

That is probably because CSR has over 900 units compared to CL with about 600.



This is true, that this condo has 900 units compared to CL with 600, but compare CL with condos with a lot less units. Look at Kerrisdale which is just behind CL. They have a lot less units than CL, and still more facilities. The gym is also a lot better (even if smaller). I think 2 bbq pits, 12 sunbeds only, no multigym machine is a lot less than what we can expect from a huge condo like CL. I am surprised no more owners have pushed management with this, and that developers probably will get away with it (meaning the owners have to pay for the extras).

How do you think us owners can push the developer on the facilities? Of course ideally i would hope for a bigger clubhouse with a bigger gym, more sunbeds and even conversion of the sheltered seats behind the club house to be converted into a bbq pit... but do you think the developer will do anything like that?

Business Times - 03 Feb 2009

S'pore govt in active talks with sports hub consortium
By ANGELA TAN

The Singapore government is in 'active discussion' with the Singapore Sports Hub Consortium which is facing funding difficulties amid the liquidity crunch.

Minister of State for Community Development, Youth and Sports, Yu-Foo Yee Shoon, told Parliament on Tuesday that the government is in talks with the group on how it intends to proceed with the multi-billion Sports Hub project.

Minister for Community Development, Youth and Sports, Vivien Balakrishnan, added that 'negotiations are still ongoing' and any details on deadlines or potential losses will compromise negotiations.

The earliest completion date of the project is now 2012.

A consortium led by a subsidiary of France's Bouygues Construction won the tender early last year to build the $1.2-billion (US$793 million) complex including a dome-shaped national stadium, with a retractable roof, able to seat 55,000 people.

It was also to feature a 6,000-capacity indoor aquatic centre, an artificial river offering whitewater rafting, and a 3,000-capacity multi-purpose arena.

Known as the Singapore Sports Hub, the project was initially targeted for completion at the end of 2011, with the aim of making Singapore competitive with other major cities and sports venues.

Thanks for the info. It seems to be delayed from its proposed opening date in 2008. What are the facilities there?

They are not very much delayed. Most of the construction has been completed and they are just touching things up for handover. The plan was for PA to move in 2009 anyway. There are no facilities for public use; only for PA and their offices.

In future, not only would Citylights residents be able to watch soccer matches for free, we would also be able to see free previews of Chingay and National Day parades preparations. :lol:

How do you think us owners can push the developer on the facilities? Of course ideally i would hope for a bigger clubhouse with a bigger gym, more sunbeds and even conversion of the sheltered seats behind the club house to be converted into a bbq pit... but do you think the developer will do anything like that?

The developer has no incentive to add anymore facilities for a sold-out project like Citylights. The best thing is to attend the first AGM and vote for your MC.

The developer has no incentive to add anymore facilities for a sold-out project like Citylights. The best thing is to attend the first AGM and vote for your MC.

That is what i thought. Even we are to make a lot of noise to the MC or developer now, i doubt we can improve anything. I have to agreed that the facilities are as expected but it seems there is nothing we can do currently. At least i like the pool :lol:

Originally Posted by Sango123
How do you think us owners can push the developer on the facilities? Of course ideally i would hope for a bigger clubhouse with a bigger gym, more sunbeds and even conversion of the sheltered seats behind the club house to be converted into a bbq pit... but do you think the developer will do anything like that?

Of course the developer has no incentive to add more facilities or to improve things. The developers incentive is to deliver a condominium at a lowest cost as possible and hope that nobody will complain about it. I think they have delivered a minimum of what they promised. How many have actually sent in a written complaint to management/developer? I have, and that is the only way to improve things. I agree with Sango123 however that now it could be a bit too late. The best is to make a lot of noise right away. Remember if you also want to rent out your units one time, possible tenants will look at these things. I know somebody that didn't move into CL because they think the gym was too poor. Finally it is possible to many good changes at minimal costs.

- a few more sitting groups and sunbeds on the roof of the gym and some plants
- a multigym machine in the gym
- heat up the jaccuzzi on the sky terrace
- maybe a sitting group on the sky terrace

This is just examples of things that could be done, that wouldn't cost too much, and could be done in just one day.

Originally Posted by Sango123
How do you think us owners can push the developer on the facilities? Of course ideally i would hope for a bigger clubhouse with a bigger gym, more sunbeds and even conversion of the sheltered seats behind the club house to be converted into a bbq pit... but do you think the developer will do anything like that?

Of course the developer has no incentive to add more facilities or to improve things. The developers incentive is to deliver a condominium at a lowest cost as possible and hope that nobody will complain about it. I think they have delivered a minimum of what they promised. How many have actually sent in a written complaint to management/developer? I have, and that is the only way to improve things. I agree with Sango123 however that now it could be a bit too late. The best is to make a lot of noise right away. Remember if you also want to rent out your units one time, possible tenants will look at these things. I know somebody that didn't move into CL because they think the gym was too poor. Finally it is possible to many good changes at minimal costs.

- a few more sitting groups and sunbeds on the roof of the gym and some plants
- a multigym machine in the gym
- heat up the jaccuzzi on the sky terrace
- maybe a sitting group on the sky terrace

This is just examples of things that could be done, that wouldn't cost too much, and could be done in just one day.


I applaud your efforts to write to the developer and agreed that improvements should be made on some of the facilities. If they need more names or signatures of owners to convince them, let me know and i will help.

Read from My Paper that our celebrity resident broke off with his chio girlfriend of 6 years. :ohno:

Read from My Paper that our celebrity resident broke off with his chio girlfriend of 6 years. :ohno:

Are you referring to this article (http://tnp.sg/show/story/0,4136,191826,00.html?)?

I don't see this celebrity couple living together at Citylights nowadays. Not sure if he has cashed out his unit or rented it out.

BTW, did anyone see another Mediacorp actress (hint: Star Search 1990 1st runner-up) sometime last week attending a gathering in the function room?

Are you referring to this article (http://tnp.sg/show/story/0,4136,191826,00.html?)?

I don't see this celebrity couple living together at Citylights nowadays. Not sure if he has cashed out his unit or rented it out.

BTW, did anyone see another Mediacorp actress (hint: Star Search 1990 1st runner-up) sometime last week attending a gathering in the function room?

Thanks for the link. The version in My Paper is much shorter. So now he is living with his parents.

I did not see the Mediacorp actress leh. :ohno:

Although the weather is dry of late, it is quite misty and not sunny. Haze coming?

Although the weather is dry of late, it is quite misty and not sunny. Haze coming?

Don't think it is haze. I am quite sure it is just vast clouds which have covered the SEA region in recent weeks, giving us cooler weather.

I was on a flight back from the west recently. When the aircraft flew over the Straits of Malacca, I saw huge clouds blanketing the landscape beneath. As the aircraft started its descent into the thick clouds, the setting sun disappeared from view and visibility was near zero. I only saw objects on the ground again when the aircraft had descented low enough to land in Singapore. The cloud layers I saw were high up, had huge depth and stretched for hundreds of kilometres.

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'nice' kitties...to be exact, 3 adults and 1 kitten (partially obscured). there is a food bowl too if you noticed (next to the brown cat). somebody must be feeding them...

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The annoying noise at night created by the construction of Pico's Building extension last year has been reduced to the minimum.

I am not sure if I am happy with all the cats running around in the condo

I am not sure if I am happy with all the cats running around in the condo
i am definitely not, more so bec it seems that somebody (probably not the residents) is feeding/ rearing them. i rem some time back the MC seemed to have posted notices saying that they were tying up with AVA to catch them...months on, nothing seems to have been done

I am a volunteer to the SPCA. I personally think that cats are beautiful and gracious animal. Their instincts "trained" them to dig on soil to poo and cover it back. They hardly "chase" after people. Just do not feed them and simpily leave them alone. They will go to somewhere else in search of food. If you spot a "Clip-off" on any of their ears i.e. they are already sterilized and will not multiply. If you send them to SPAC, these animals will be put to sleep if there is nobody adopting them. So, I urge people to be more tolerant -- leave them alone and do not feed them.

On the hand, we need to "train" some of the dogs' owners and their maids to "train" their pets -- not to urinate on building columns and to pick up the poo during their "toilet trips". I spotted one day urinating on the back door (Lavender St) and the maid just watched on. I told the maid off and she just walked off. :bash:

There is nothing wrong to keep pets but people just have to be considerate and do not cause nuisance to other residents.

i am definitely not, more so bec it seems that somebody (probably not the residents) is feeding/ rearing them. i rem some time back the MC seemed to have posted notices saying that they were tying up with AVA to catch them...months on, nothing seems to have been done

Something was done by the MC after residents complained. There were cat-traps laid behind 1 or 2 blocks and I believe some cats were caught and taken away. However, given the porous nature of our gates and fences, there is nothing to stop more cats from sneaking back if someone offers them food. I have yet to see anyone feeding them but from the pictures, it seems the feeding dish was next to the cleaners' quarters. Maybe they are involved or they know someone who has been feeding the cats?

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The annoying noise at night created by the construction of Pico's Building extension last year has been reduced to the minimum.

Yep. Quite a big building too. Did not expect a building extension to be 11 storeys tall. It should have a nice glassy facade added later.

I am a volunteer to the SPCA. I personally think that cats are beautiful and gracious animal. Their instincts "trained" them to dig on soil to poo and cover it back. They hardly "chase" after people. Just do not feed them and simpily leave them alone. They will go to somewhere else in search of food. If you spot a "Clip-off" on any of their ears i.e. they are already sterilized and will not multiply. If you send them to SPAC, these animals will be put to sleep if there is nobody adopting them. So, I urge people to be more tolerant -- leave them alone and do not feed them.

On the hand, we need to "train" some of the dogs' owners and their maids to "train" their pets -- not to urinate on building columns and to pick up the poo during their "toilet trips". I spotted one day urinating on the back door (Lavender St) and the maid just watched on. I told the maid off and she just walked off. :bash:

There is nothing wrong to keep pets but people just have to be considerate and do not cause nuisance to other residents.

Unfortunately the cats are a nuisance to other residents. One of the townhouse residents told me that several times they have found cats IN THEIR KITCHEN, stealing food. This in addition to the poo on their front yard, left uncovered. :ohno:

Happy Valentines Day all! Gosh time sure passes fast, one year since Citylights TOP alr.

I am a volunteer to the SPCA. I personally think that cats are beautiful and gracious animal. Their instincts "trained" them to dig on soil to poo and cover it back. They hardly "chase" after people. Just do not feed them and simpily leave them alone. They will go to somewhere else in search of food. If you spot a "Clip-off" on any of their ears i.e. they are already sterilized and will not multiply. If you send them to SPAC, these animals will be put to sleep if there is nobody adopting them. So, I urge people to be more tolerant -- leave them alone and do not feed them.
I have nothing against cats nor SPCA. But I guessed the adult cats in the pic are not clipped, which is why they reproduced. Each litter is about 3-4 kittens. In time to come, they will too reproduce. Soon we will have a platoon running around.

In any case, the thoughtful 'owner(s)' have relocated them from one corner to the other. food and water continued to be serve. i saw 3, but 1 ran away before i could click.

Afternote: I was wrong. They did not relocate...they were at both corners! In fact, I saw 5 at the dustbin area and another 2 at the dump truck at the same time yesterday!

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Cats are so cute...nothing wrong if they have not create problems.:)

ehh, cats are maybe cute, but I don't think they have anything to do in the condo area. I hope we can increase the standards in CL. Prevent the cats from coming in, stop people from hanging clothes on the planters, otherwise it will look like any other HDB in 2-3 years time (then I wish I invested my money other place)

Is not that bad. My condo also got cats coming in. Don't pose any problems. There are cleaners after all. Cats are also useful in getting rid of roaches.

For me, dogs are more of a nuisance than cats. Urinating on columns to mark territories, barking whenever a stranger walks near their unit, etc.

For me, dogs are more of a nuisance than cats. Urinating on columns to mark territories, barking whenever a stranger walks near their unit, etc.

I like dogs and cats. Owners should make a point to bath their dogs more regularly. I came across irresponsible residents whose dog STINKS. It was a torture to be on the same lift with them. Yucks! :ohno: Cannot imagine the state of their unit!

For me, dogs are more of a nuisance than cats. Urinating on columns to mark territories, barking whenever a stranger walks near their unit, etc.

Sad to say that, for some -- they just cannot tolerate seeing a stray cat in the premises. On the other hand, they are fine with dog that is noisy or whatever behaviour. The difference here is its master is a resident of the condo and so does the dog. Whenever they see poo/urine on the floor, they assume that must be done by cat and not the dog.

Does anyone have experience of walking into the lift (at least for Tower 86) and find a pool of "liquid" at the corner? I presume this is left behind from someone just step out of the swimming pool and took a lift up to his unit. Otherwise, someone (and his dog) needs to be slapped. PS: Stray cat does not have the talent of pressing for the lift.

Sad to say that, for some -- they just cannot tolerate seeing a stray cat in the premises. On the other hand, they are fine with dog that is noisy or whatever behaviour. The difference here is its master is a resident of the condo and so does the dog. Whenever they see poo/urine on the floor, they assume that must be done by cat and not the dog.

Does anyone have experience of walking into the lift (at least for Tower 86) and find a pool of "liquid" at the corner? I presume this is left behind from someone just step out of the swimming pool and took a lift up to his unit. Otherwise, someone (and his dog) needs to be slapped. PS: Stray cat does not have the talent of pressing for the lift.

Not to offend dog lovers/owners, but pardon my ignorance, I've never seen cats pee/poo on human property (as opposed to nature places) if nature places (like grass areas) are available.

I believe education is the key (I know Im sounding cheesy) here... But from what I see, there are more dog than cat owners, partly because of the HDB ruling which personally I feel is unfair.

And of cos, there are indeed more stray cats than dogs. But cats are less aggressive generally. You can't really compare which animal is "better", because it's their in-built natural instinct.

Can see the outer painting of level 24 got dirty from the soil erosion of the trees.usually when will the management repaint the whole structure?

^^
To paint the whole estate, it is usually every 4 to 5 years. But if enough votes are gathered in general meeting, it could be earlier.

For "maintenance" kind of touching up here and there, it should be any time if need arise

Anyone seen a falcon/hawk flying around our estate lately? Saw one this morning perched on the balcony, making very loud cries. So good to see rare birds in a concrete jungle like Singapore, smack in the city. :)

Anyone seen a falcon/hawk flying around our estate lately? Saw one this morning perched on the balcony, making very loud cries. So good to see rare birds in a concrete jungle like Singapore, smack in the city. :)

It might have been a white-bellied sea eagle often sighted around Kallang/Marina East/Suntec. I have seen it circling around Citylights and also around the condos in Tanjong Rhu last year. Have not seen it lately.

It looks something like this in flight:

http://www.naturia.per.sg/buloh/photos/302.jpg

Signs of better times ahead?

It might have been a white-bellied sea eagle often sighted around Kallang/Marina East/Suntec. I have seen it circling around Citylights and also around the condos in Tanjong Rhu last year. Have not seen it lately.

It looks something like this in flight:

http://www.naturia.per.sg/buloh/photos/302.jpg

It didn't seem to be a large bird. Looked like a slightly taller pigeon, with a falcon/hawk-like face. Don't think it's an eagle though...

What amazed me was its cries. They sound like mechanical squeaks and very loud. I thought it came from a machine! :eek:

Are they starting to build the hotel next to the mrt already? The area has been fenced off. Hope it won't be too noisy.

Are they starting to build the hotel next to the mrt already? The area has been fenced off. Hope it won't be too noisy.

Looks like the hotel is coming but still no rendering or project info yet. It would be noisy initially during the piling stage.

Looks like the hotel is coming but still no rendering or project info yet. It would be noisy initially during the piling stage.

Yah, only the fence is up. You can still walk through the compound to the MRT Station.

Have been walking around Citylights for some delightful food like Fish Head Steamboat, Belacan Fish... there are really lots of good food around Citylights

Yah, only the fence is up. You can still walk through the compound to the MRT Station.

Have been walking around Citylights for some delightful food like Fish Head Steamboat, Belacan Fish... there are really lots of good food around Citylights

Where is the Belacan Fish?

Yah, only the fence is up. You can still walk through the compound to the MRT Station.

Have been walking around Citylights for some delightful food like Fish Head Steamboat, Belacan Fish... there are really lots of good food around Citylights

Yeah ... we have lots of good food nearby but I am also seeing a couple of new PRC-owned steamboat restaurants popping up in the neighbourhood. I hope we won't see more of these so that Jalan Besar/Lavender won't end up like Geylang Road which in recent years was flooded with dozens of dodgy-looking China steamboat shops attracting hundreds if not thousands of Chinese nationals every weekend.

BTW, looks like there has been a change of plans by the authorities regarding the removal of the covered linkway from Kitchener Complex to the MRT station:

SYNOPSIS OF Q&A NO.2 DATED 3 OCT 08

Q1: We understand that there is no requirement for the successful tenderer to replace or reinstate the existing covered linkway across Jellicoe Road as part of the walkway for the future hotel development. However, is there any intention on the part of the Jalan Besar Town Council to propose a new covered Iinkway across Jellicoe Road to serve the residents in this area and how will it impact the future hotel development ?

A1: Based on feedback from the grassroots, there have been requests by the residents for a covered linkway across Jellicoe Road. The Jalan Besar Town Council is looking into providing an appropriate alternative location for a linkway to connect to the covered walkway of the future hotel development. The alignment of the proposed covered linkway across Jellicoe Road by the Jalan Besar Town Council will take into account the ingress/egress of the future hotel development as well as traffic planning of this area. In order to facilitate the implementation of the new covered Iinkway across Jellicoe Road, the Jalan Besar Town Council will work with the successful tenderer of the sale site and the Land Transport Authority (LTA) on the overall design and height of the linkway to ensure it integrates well with the future hotel development while meeting LTA's requirements and providing an all weather protection and connectivity to Lavender MRT station.

Where is the Belacan Fish?

You come out of Citylights main gate, turn right towards Horne Road and walk about 5 min. I think it is the first coffeshop on the right. It is opposite Jalan Besar stadium.

There is a also a decent Thai stall in the 24 hour coffeshop of Jalan Besar Stadium.

Lots of good food in Maude Road area too. All within walking distance.

The Fishhead Steamboat is very good but about 10 - 15 min walk away. Queue is amazing on weekends

Not so sure bout the China Steamboat shops although i know what you mean in Geylang...

You come out of Citylights main gate, turn right towards Horne Road and walk about 5 min. I think it is the first coffeshop on the right. It is opposite Jalan Besar stadium.

There is a also a decent Thai stall in the 24 hour coffeshop of Jalan Besar Stadium.

Lots of good food in Maude Road area too. All within walking distance.

The Fishhead Steamboat is very good but about 10 - 15 min walk away. Queue is amazing on weekends

Not so sure bout the China Steamboat shops although i know what you mean in Geylang...

Thanks! Will give them a try soon! Though I'll probably be giving steamboat a miss for a while anyway....

Yeah ... we have lots of good food nearby but I am also seeing a couple of new PRC-owned steamboat restaurants popping up in the neighbourhood. I hope we won't see more of these so that Jalan Besar/Lavender won't end up like Geylang Road which in recent years was flooded with dozens of dodgy-looking China steamboat shops attracting hundreds if not thousands of Chinese nationals every weekend.

BTW, looks like there has been a change of plans by the authorities regarding the removal of the covered linkway from Kitchener Complex to the MRT station:

SYNOPSIS OF Q&A NO.2 DATED 3 OCT 08

Q1: We understand that there is no requirement for the successful tenderer to replace or reinstate the existing covered linkway across Jellicoe Road as part of the walkway for the future hotel development. However, is there any intention on the part of the Jalan Besar Town Council to propose a new covered Iinkway across Jellicoe Road to serve the residents in this area and how will it impact the future hotel development ?

A1: Based on feedback from the grassroots, there have been requests by the residents for a covered linkway across Jellicoe Road. The Jalan Besar Town Council is looking into providing an appropriate alternative location for a linkway to connect to the covered walkway of the future hotel development. The alignment of the proposed covered linkway across Jellicoe Road by the Jalan Besar Town Council will take into account the ingress/egress of the future hotel development as well as traffic planning of this area. In order to facilitate the implementation of the new covered Iinkway across Jellicoe Road, the Jalan Besar Town Council will work with the successful tenderer of the sale site and the Land Transport Authority (LTA) on the overall design and height of the linkway to ensure it integrates well with the future hotel development while meeting LTA's requirements and providing an all weather protection and connectivity to Lavender MRT station.

That is good news, but I am confused about the MRT station building itself. The site plan put up during the tender indicated that the MRT building itself was part of the site. Does that mean that the structure itself will be gone? Will there still be access via Kallang Road?

That is good news, but I am confused about the MRT station building itself. The site plan put up during the tender indicated that the MRT building itself was part of the site. Does that mean that the structure itself will be gone? Will there still be access via Kallang Road?

Throughout the construction period, access to the MRT station from that entrance should still be maintained.

The developer of the hotel was given the option to demolish and integrate the existing MRT entrance structure with the new building on condition the raised platform entrance to the escalators is kept for flood prevention. They are allowed to permanently remove the bicycle parking stands and the MRT public toilets if they can provide alternative public toilets in the new building.

In last month issue of expats magazine,citylights was featured and listed as one of the most popular condo in singapore.Icon and The centris as well.

In last month issue of expats magazine,citylights was featured and listed as one of the most popular condo in singapore.Icon and The centris as well.

Citylights and Icon are most popular I can still understand (as they are the top 1 and 2 for subsales transactions in 2008 and located centrally near the MRT) but The Centris? How can Centris be one the most popular condo for expats if it is still under construction and sited in far-away Jurong West? :nuts:

Citylights and Icon are most popular I can still understand (as they are the top 1 and 2 for subsales transactions in 2008 and located centrally near the MRT) but The Centris? How can Centris be one the most popular condo for expats if it is still under construction and sited in far-away Jurong West? :nuts:

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Citylights and Icon are most popular I can still understand (as they are the top 1 and 2 for subsales transactions in 2008 and located centrally near the MRT) but The Centris? How can Centris be one the most popular condo for expats if it is still under construction and sited in far-away Jurong West? :nuts:

is listed as most popular condo with the highest subsales.ya,i also dun think Centris can be the popular condo.think when is launch lots of people bought that why listed as one of the popular condo

is listed as most popular condo with the highest subsales.ya,i also dun think Centris can be the popular condo.think when is launch lots of people bought that why listed as one of the popular condo

I agreed. Wonder how is the price of Citylight recently?I only disappointed that the Kallang development liked the Sport Hub,for eg,is still put on hold..

I agreed. Wonder how is the price of Citylight recently?I only disappointed that the Kallang development liked the Sport Hub,for eg,is still put on hold..

Today an agent called me and asked if i interested to sell if the buyer willing to offer 1000psf-1150psf.so i assume around that price at this point of time

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Looks like the hotel is coming but still no rendering or project info yet. It would be noisy initially during the piling stage.

The project sign is up. It would be a 15-storey hotel with 888 rooms, restaurant, food court and retail shops. The architect is Archiwave Architects but still no rendering of the site yet.

Is there a podium beneath the 15-storey hotel block or is it 15 storeys from ground level?

Is there a podium beneath the 15-storey hotel block or is it 15 storeys from ground level?

Should be 15 storeys from ground level I think but not too sure yet. Its surprising that they did not choose to build up to the 25 storeys max height allowed.

The project signboard might indicate if there really are additional floors. This is an example for the new hotel at Novena:

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The project signboard might indicate if there really are additional floors. This is an example for the new hotel at Novena:


The signboard I saw simply just say 15 storey hotel without mention of any podium or basement levels. It could be still early days because the current signboard is for the preliminary piling work to finish by September this year. Once the builders come in, hopefully we see more details and maybe a rendering of the end-product.

Maybe they will put the lobby/reception area on the 2nd floor or higher and leave the ground floor for the retail, restaurant, food court (!) and the MRT entrance.

They don't really do much noisy work so far... less than an hour in the morning.

The project sign is up. It would be a 15-storey hotel with 888 rooms, restaurant, food court and retail shops. The architect is Archiwave Architects but still no rendering of the site yet.

To "squeeze" 888 rooms in a 15-storey building? The rooms must be tiny. :ohno:

Restaurant + food court + retail shops, wow, that is good. :banana:

To "squeeze" 888 rooms in a 15-storey building? The rooms must be tiny. :ohno:

Remember that Leonie apt where they managed to squeeze 600+ rooms out of just over 100 apartments? Nasty! :nuts:

Something is happening at the abandoned building next to the Shell station on Lavender. I drove past it yesterday and saw it had been painted BRIGHT green. The windows and doors were open. Anyone know what's going on there?

Lots happening across the street at the hotel site. Mountain of big blocks piled up now.

Something is happening at the abandoned building next to the Shell station on Lavender. I drove past it yesterday and saw it had been painted BRIGHT green. The windows and doors were open. Anyone know what's going on there?

I passed by once and saw trucks inside the building. Either they are the renovation contractors or this building could become another hardware and machinery shop typical of trades in this area ....

The building next to the Shell station on Lavender street has "Ministry of Colour" written on it.... guess it's a paint shop? It would be a very, very large one....

yesterday saw from news on tv that they going to develop a shopping centre at kallang mrt.wonder will that boast up citylights price?

recently received alot of calls from agent and one of them said the buyer willing to offer at $1300psf.is it consider a good price or it should be better than that?

Well.. I think the agent is being unrealistic. I don't think Citylight will fetch 1300 psf, at this present moment. If you could, that will be a fantastic bonus of the year.

At 1300 psf, you have many choice to buy freehold properties at river valley, or even top up a bit to get a unit at the sail.

The building next to the Shell station on Lavender street has "Ministry of Colour" written on it.... guess it's a paint shop? It would be a very, very large one....

Or could it be a cousin of the Ministry of Sound @ Clarke Quay? :lol: Anyway don't think so given its location.

yesterday saw from news on tv that they going to develop a shopping centre at kallang mrt.wonder will that boast up citylights price?

Shopping centre? I think its going to be a beach front hotel along the banks of the Kallang River rather than a shopping centre. Anyway, its only a potential government land sale and no one has bidded for it yet.

Or could it be a cousin of the Ministry of Sound @ Clarke Quay? :lol: Anyway don't think so given its location.

How about the cousin of Ministry of Food, the Japanese restaurant? :nuts:

Lots happening across the street at the hotel site. Mountain of big blocks piled up now.

Anyone know what those blocks are for? They are gone now.

Anyone know what those blocks are for? They are gone now.

Are those blocks like huge concrete cubes? Possible pile load test...

Can someone inform whom should we can contact for wiring problem (3 point not working) even we have change the bulb.
We need to call Electrician.
Should we check with management first and is it still under building warranty?

Can someone inform whom should we can contact for wiring problem (3 point not working) even we have change the bulb.
We need to call Electrician.
Should we check with management first and is it still under building warranty?

Suggest u talk to someone at the condo management office. They can help u to relay the problem to the developer with a defect report list.

Suggest u talk to someone at the condo management office. They can help u to relay the problem to the developer with a defect report list.

TQ

I noticed that on the 5th flr car park at blk 90 there is some kind of contruction office setup & near blk 88 there seem to be like someone making a home with clothes hanging & it was very dirty. The car park is like a home for some workers is this allowed ? Also the office setup at the car park 5th flr is this allowed or someone has given permission illegally ?

You can take a look for yourself . I wonder if the condo management is aware of this

I noticed that on the 5th flr car park at blk 90 there is some kind of contruction office setup & near blk 88 there seem to be like someone making a home with clothes hanging & it was very dirty. The car park is like a home for some workers is this allowed ? Also the office setup at the car park 5th flr is this allowed or someone has given permission illegally ?

You can take a look for yourself . I wonder if the condo management is aware of this

Looks like you have finally stumbled on the designated store area where our main con Dragages and their workers keep their equipment and surplus materials used in the Citylights project. The Dragages workers come here when they need to get floor tiles, bathroom accessories and other furnishings for the defects rectification works. However, the workers don't stay there overnight but only come in during the day. :lol:

I went there to choose a replacement tile to fix a faulty one in my kitchen.

Looks like you have finally stumbled on the designated store area where our main con Dragages and their workers keep their equipment and surplus materials used in the Citylights project. The Dragages workers come here when they need to get floor tiles, bathroom accessories and other furnishings for the defects rectification works. However, the workers don't stay there overnight but only come in during the day. :lol:

I went there to choose a replacement tile to fix a faulty one in my kitchen.

scare me.thought Mas Selamat had not been caught.haha.lol:lol:

Read in the property report magazine,Citylights won the construction excellence award by BCA as well as the heritage award.

I am selling my unit, #3x-02, 1313 sqft. Currently tenanted at $4.xk/mth, lease expire in 6 months.

I am thinking of selling at $1150 psf.

Interested party please PM me.

Yield of 3-4%...