Hi guys, anyone know if the gracious living fair is worth going? If it is, i will try to squeeze time to go today as i will be outstation next week.

Consulted them at one of the fairs. Took them almost 1 month to get back to me with the quotation and 1 3D perspective drawing. Didn't appoint them in the end, coz the quotation was quite high for me and not everything included in the initial quotation yet. So I went for another ID.

Do you need to pay any initial fee to have the quote and 3D drawing comes out ? Do you allow to keep the 3D even though you do not proceed.

Do you need to pay any initial fee to have the quote and 3D drawing comes out ? Do you allow to keep the 3D even though you do not proceed.

Most IDs could walk you through the proposed design with a rough concept and give a preliminary quote. If you accept, they would take a small deposit (may be $1K) to get the 3D perspectives done with the proposed colours and layout.

If you walk out after seeing the perspectives, I think you would just lose your deposit. Of course, you can ask them to modify the design to your liking.

Hi guys, anyone know if the gracious living fair is worth going? If it is, i will try to squeeze time to go today as i will be outstation next week.

Definitely worth going to see them at the Expo than just visiting them in their shops. You can squeeze them for promotional prices and if you sign up there, you still stand a chance to win something at the show's lucky draw.

Consulted them at one of the fairs. Took them almost 1 month to get back to me with the quotation and 1 3D perspective drawing. Didn't appoint them in the end, coz the quotation was quite high for me and not everything included in the initial quotation yet. So I went for another ID.

Can ask how much higher than the current ID you appointed ?

Can ask how much higher than the current ID you appointed ?

Couple of thousands more. Besides, the current ID included additional items that the previous one have yet to do so and the price is still lower. So if the previous one include all my additional requests, it will be even higher. Furthermore, when I appointed my current ID, they are not charging GST yet. So I saved on that too. However, the managing director told me they will have to charge GST soon, probably by this month or end of the year. Not so sure.

Do you need to pay any initial fee to have the quote and 3D drawing comes out ? Do you allow to keep the 3D even though you do not proceed.

It was free consultation. I was given the quotation and layout plan but not the 3D.

Taken today. Went up to the 30-storey HDB flats! The views were damn great :D

The tennis court is done!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00465.jpg

The mini courtyards with eco ponds.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00466.jpg

A pile of mud wating to be spread over the bare land to grow grass!!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00474.jpg

Aye? Why are pipes exposed?

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00467.jpg

View of the blocks at 30-storeys.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00471.jpg

Looking down.. :eek: The road in moving towards the entrance has also been redone. The parking lots have also been removed.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00467.jpg

Another view of the *nearly* completed blocks at 30-storeys.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00464.jpg

Sneak peak of the future view!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00468.jpg

By the way, I also noticed a yellow IKEA truck parked just inside, at the entrance. TOP already?

I made a visit into the grounds of Citylights today

The TOP is gonna be real soon cos the Admin office has been put up at the Function Room by the gym and all kitted up with computers etc.

the Gym is nice, all euipped and ready

NOW the concern:

if you come by road as a pedestrian instead of driving in, s many of us will, you will go pass the guard post adn walk along a coloured pavement which ends on the ground flr carpark.

Then you will walk to the entrances of the respective lift lobbies. Here is my concern: there is no delineated path to walk. You know how dangerous it is to walk in carparks esp for the old n kiddies
Also there is an exit to Pehhas Road gate which i hope wont get people sppeding about as my condo residents are wont to do

The lift lobbies or the grand entrance to your block, is very very disappointing: I dont think there is controlled access to the lift lobby which is narrow and tiny (3 lifts in a row.may have to squeeze past people to get to the furthest most lift)

I think we m,ay need to get Management to create proper and safe walking paths to the lift lobbies of the 3 towers.......................

Otherwise, its all ready to GGOO

HOW DID YOU GET IN?

There is controlled access asciano. But yes, in the brochure, the lift lobbies looks so thin :ohno:

But there is a path. From Jellicoe Road, cross to the middle of the guard house where there are stairs. Then whichever direction you want, just cross. For me, so long as you are careful, accidents are impossible.

Any other updates?

What do you like about Citylights ?

For me it will be the SkyGarden looking at the beautiful view..

:banana:

Then you will walk to the entrances of the respective lift lobbies. Here is my concern: there is no delineated path to walk. You know how dangerous it is to walk in carparks esp for the old n kiddies
Also there is an exit to Pehhas Road gate which i hope wont get people sppeding about as my condo residents are wont to do

The lift lobbies or the grand entrance to your block, is very very disappointing: I dont think there is controlled access to the lift lobby which is narrow and tiny (3 lifts in a row.may have to squeeze past people to get to the furthest most lift)

I think we m,ay need to get Management to create proper and safe walking paths to the lift lobbies of the 3 towers.......................

Otherwise, its all ready to GGOO

How did you get in to the grounds?

Agreed with you as I really hope they look into all safety aspects for the sake of the residents. I think the Horne Road junction with Jellicoe Road is also risky for pedestrain and cars turning out as there are no traffic crossings there. I have written to LTA to prompt them to look into installing a zebra crossing or traffic lights.

Another weakness I spotted is that the swimming pool changing rooms behind the clubhouse is in full view of motorists and other road users at the Lavender Street junction. I sure hope there won't be any accidents when motorists ogle at bikini-cladded women walking to the changing rooms. :lol:

BTW, I don't think there should be controlled access to the lift lobbies as residents need to take the lifts up to the skygym/skydeck on Blk 86-90.

How did you get in to the grounds?

Agreed with you as I really hope they look into all safety aspects for the sake of the residents. I think the Horne Road junction with Jellicoe Road is also risky for pedestrain and cars turning out as there are no traffic crossings there. I have written to LTA to prompt them to look into installing a zebra crossing or traffic lights.

Another weakness I spotted is that the swimming pool changing rooms behind the clubhouse is in full view of motorists and other road users at the Lavender Street junction. I sure hope there won't be any accidents when motorists ogle at bikini-cladded women walking to the changing rooms. :lol:

BTW, I don't think there should be controlled access to the lift lobbies as residents need to take the lifts up to the skygym/skydeck on Blk 86-90.

The brochure reads "card access to lift lobbies". The changing room is exposed? Shouldn't they at least frost the glass? I think I have seen it before - is it those L-shaped windows?

I am still curious. HOW DID ASCIANO GET IN?

What do you like about Citylights ?

For me it will be the SkyGarden looking at the beautiful view..

:banana:

The fact that it is 42-stoeys, doorstep MRT and beautiful view!

The brochure reads "card access to lift lobbies". The changing room is exposed? Shouldn't they at least frost the glass? I think I have seen it before - is it those L-shaped windows?


Nope. The walkway from the pools past the clubhouse to the back changing rooms is in full view of the public. They should put up screens or taller shrubs to ensure privacy.

Nope. The walkway from the pools past the clubhouse to the back changing rooms is in full view of the public. They should put up screens or taller shrubs to ensure privacy.

There are plant covering that area, but may be not tall enough . Thinks it will be ok after 3-6mth after thry grow taller

What do you like about Citylights ?

For me it will be the SkyGarden looking at the beautiful view..

:banana:

The height, the sky garden, great view, just beside MRT station, good food, close to the city! :)

Nope. The walkway from the pools past the clubhouse to the back changing rooms is in full view of the public. They should put up screens or taller shrubs to ensure privacy.

Change them to frosted glass!

Change them to frosted glass!

You mean change the shrubs to frosted glass? :lol: There are currently only short shrubs blocking the pavement to the ladies and gents changing rooms. I think better change them to full-height hedges or bamboo trees.

Change the windows to frosted ones / frost them / change them to tinted glass!

So many choices, yet they chose to reveal the people inside :naughty:

Change the windows to frosted ones / frost them / change them to tinted glass!

So many choices, yet they chose to reveal the people inside :naughty:

The windows of the changing rooms are already frosted or tinted. I am in fact referring to the walkway from the pools past the clubhouse to the changing rooms. The walkway is in full view of the public. Ladies in bikinis or swimsuit walking to the changing rooms can be seen clearly by anybody along the main road. I am not referring to those already in the changing rooms.

The windows of the changing rooms are already frosted or tinted. I am in fact referring to the walkway from the pools past the clubhouse to the changing rooms. The walkway is in full view of the public. Ladies in bikinis or swimsuit walking to the changing rooms can be seen clearly by anybody along the main road. I am not referring to those already in the changing rooms.

Is it necessary to use the changing room? Why not just put on something after the swim and go back to the apt for a shower and change?

Good point ^^

Use the luxurious master bath :D

But some people prefer to shower then go up.

The windows of the changing rooms are already frosted or tinted. I am in fact referring to the walkway from the pools past the clubhouse to the changing rooms. The walkway is in full view of the public. Ladies in bikinis or swimsuit walking to the changing rooms can be seen clearly by anybody along the main road. I am not referring to those already in the changing rooms.

Oh. Misread what you meant. Thought the changing room windows were not tinted / frosted :lol:

Citylights as seen from the Kallang MRT station platform. Taken on 20/11/07:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8100/cimg3345dh3.jpg

Nice updates Maverick.

If that green building were to go, the picture would be perfect. Why didn't you take the MRT all the way to Lavender? :D

Nice updates Maverick.

If that green building were to go, the picture would be perfect. Why didn't you take the MRT all the way to Lavender? :D

Because I happened to be in the vicinity?

Anyway, you can see in the pic that the 30 storeys HDB blocks at Jellicoe Road have been re-painted with light-pinkish colours.

Because I happened to be in the vicinity?

Anyway, you can see in the pic that the 30 storeys HDB blocks at Jellicoe Road have been re-painted with light-pinkish colours.

Or rather, "lavender" :lol:

The time for repainting is long overdue. The peeling paint is so ugly.

Or rather, "lavender" :lol:

The time for repainting is long overdue. The peeling paint is so ugly.

Probably Lavender Pink. There are many shades of lavender:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_(color)#Lavender_pink

The height, the sky garden, great view, just beside MRT station, good food, close to the city! :)

Likes:
- doorstep MRT
- basin view
- sea view
- cbd view
- near to cbd and orchard

Dislikes:
- Jalan Besar type
- lease hold

Dislikes:
- Jalan Besar type
- lease hold

Jalan Besar type? I like the heritage character of Jalan Besar, plus I was born and grew up there (at least for the first few years).

Likes:
- doorstep MRT
- basin view
- sea view
- cbd view
- near to cbd and orchard

Dislikes:
- Jalan Besar type
- lease hold

Citylights is perfect. Only minus point probably LH.

Jalan Besar type? I like the heritage character of Jalan Besar, plus I was born and grew up there (at least for the first few years).

haha. i remember someone posted in this thread, jalan besar type = think gold chain etc etc. vs Tanjong Rhu or Orchard type.

Dislike :

Fragrance Hotel & Hotel 81 because you can see couples going there for short time.
Would prefer these Hotels be up to standard then more of sleazy reputation.
Wish the goverment do not give out these Hotels license anymore to operate as these hotels painted a negative image.

haha. i remember someone posted in this thread, jalan besar type = think gold chain etc etc. vs Tanjong Rhu or Orchard type.

Jalan Besar was once a notorious gangster turf. I have witnessed fights before and saw someone's head slashed with a parang and people grabbing knives and choppers from my grandparents' shop for gang fights. I lost count of the number of times my dad had to pick up the phone to dial "999".

Now it is just a peaceful heritage enclave. :)

Jalan Besar was once a notorious gangster turf. I have witnessed fights before and saw someone's head slashed with a parang and people grabbing knives and choppers from my grandparents' shop for gang fights. I lost count of the number of times my dad had to pick up the phone to dial "999".

Now it is just a peaceful heritage enclave. :)

Yeah ^^

The shophouses there are pretty and are worth taking a look.

Dislike :

Fragrance Hotel & Hotel 81 because you can see couples going there for short time.
Would prefer these Hotels be up to standard then more of sleazy reputation.
Wish the goverment do not give out these Hotels license anymore to operate as these hotels painted a negative image.

Some times it is all in the mind. For me, I only know those Fragrance and Hotel 81's at Geylang and Joo Chiat as "sleazy".

Of course since both hotels charge hourly rates you know what it is meant for :naughty: :lol: :lol:

Some times it is all in the mind. For me, I only know those Fragrance and Hotel 81's at Geylang and Joo Chiat as "sleazy".

Of course since both hotels charge hourly rates you know what it is meant for :naughty: :lol: :lol:

True. I'm currently staying in chinatown, and I don't think the Hotel 81 along Upper Cross Street is sleazy.

The budget hotels in Lavender are also not sleazy.

Taken today, the long overdue signage:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4412/cimg3396vw2.jpg

The full height of Citylights can really overwhelm the senses. I saw many passer-bys looking at it in awe ....

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6690/cimg3399js6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3800/cimg3395xh8.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8540/cimg3392dy6.jpg

There are plant covering that area, but may be not tall enough . Thinks it will be ok after 3-6mth after thry grow taller

Maybe not .... the plants are not tall enough to cover the walkway to the changing rooms behind the clubhouse: :ohno:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7060/cimg3394um5.jpg

Fragrance Hotel Imperial just behind Citylights is opening soon. I think this one is more of a tourist-class hotel as it has a swimming pool, 7-11 shop and a lobby cafe.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9420/cimg3389xu2.jpg

The lobby cafe is called "Good News Cafe" and uses a symbol of the Cross for its logo. Maybe the owner is a devoted Christian? Anyway, it's almost ready:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1861/cimg3390fj7.jpg

Hi Mav,

What corner is the hotel on? Is it on Penhas & Horne?

Now that the Citylights sign is up, does that mean TOP is soon?

Nice pix! Thanks!

Maverick, nice photos. I always enjoy the nice photos taken by you. Thanks !

Hi Mav,

What corner is the hotel on? Is it on Penhas & Horne?

Now that the Citylights sign is up, does that mean TOP is soon?

Nice pix! Thanks!

There is one on the corner of Lavender Street and Penhas Road. This one is in the middle of Penhas Road.

Yes! Dcember 1st is approaching! :D

The full height of Citylights can really overwhelm the senses. I saw many passer-bys looking at it in awe ....

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6690/cimg3399js6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3800/cimg3395xh8.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8540/cimg3392dy6.jpg

Yeah ^^

Many even stopped to take photos. I felt happy when they did that :D

Fragrance Hotel Imperial just behind Citylights is opening soon. I think this one is more of a tourist-class hotel as it has a swimming pool, 7-11 shop and a lobby cafe.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9420/cimg3389xu2.jpg

The lobby cafe is called "Good News Cafe" and uses a symbol of the Cross for its logo. Maybe the owner is a devoted Christian? Anyway, it's almost ready:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1861/cimg3390fj7.jpg

I can see the boss making the preperations! :D

Maybe not .... the plants are not tall enough to cover the walkway to the changing rooms behind the clubhouse: :ohno:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7060/cimg3394um5.jpg

Maybe can use as some fashion show :lol:

But it looks kind of nice, with a resort feel. Nice updates again Maverick!

The budget hotels in Lavender are also not sleazy.

Taken today, the long overdue signage:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4412/cimg3396vw2.jpg

You beat me to it! I think the signboard will be lighted up at night because on the last photo taken before the signage was put up, there was a hole with wires protruding out.

Still not TOP hah ?

When will -TOP- be ? Will it be December, January or February ?
Can anyone confirm the dates.

Still not TOP hah ?

See Excelsvr's message footer: 1STDECEMBER2007 A Crucial Date.

However, Capitaland put that as "estimated" only.

You beat me to it! I think the signboard will be lighted up at night because on the last photo taken before the signage was put up, there was a hole with wires protruding out.

Yep... should be lighted up. There would also be one more signage at the exit gate along Penhas Road which has yet to be installed. Maybe you can beat me to it.

Wheh I read earlier in the thread about the two Fragrance Hotels I never looked on a map. I had no idea they were practically next door to each other!

FYI: Here are the published room rates for both:

Lavender: $129 for std room; $149 for deluxe room

Imperial: $79-99 for std room

Looks like they are targeting different markets.

Wheh I read earlier in the thread about the two Fragrance Hotels I never looked on a map. I had no idea they were practically next door to each other!

FYI: Here are the published room rates for both:

Lavender: $129 for std room; $149 for deluxe room

Imperial: $79-99 for std room

Looks like they are targeting different markets.

I don't even see both new hotels listed at the Fragrance hotel website. Where did you get the rates from?

Lavender rooms might be larger, or the internet rates differ from walk-in rates as is usually the case nowadays with the shoot-up in hotel rates island-wide.

Maverick, nice photos. I always enjoy the nice photos taken by you. Thanks !

Thanks everyone. I also enjoy taking pictures of iconic-looking buildings like this. :)

Thanks everyone. I also enjoy taking pictures of iconic-looking buildings like this. :)

I plan to go down to CityLights ths afternoon to look at the latest development and the surrounding. If there are people taking photos of CityLights, that must be you or Excelsvr. Cheers !!

I found the rates for the Fragrance Hotels at

www.visitsingapore.com

I think the Fragrance Hotel site itself hasn't been updated in a long time.

The visitsingapore site writes that the Fragrance Imperial Hotel has 76 standard rooms. The Fragrance Lavender has 36 standard and 1 deluxe.

See Excelsvr's message footer: 1STDECEMBER2007 A Crucial Date.

However, Capitaland put that as "estimated" only.

Publicism! :lol:

Yep... should be lighted up. There would also be one more signage at the exit gate along Penhas Road which has yet to be installed. Maybe you can beat me to it.

Hehe :D

I plan to go down today at night and in the day so maybe..:banana:

When will -TOP- be ? Will it be December, January or February ?
Can anyone confirm the dates.

Most likely December, lavandar. Everything is completed! I can understand your eager anticipartion, me too :lol:

The visitsingapore site writes that the Fragrance Imperial Hotel has 76 standard rooms. The Fragrance Lavender has 36 standard and 1 deluxe.

Of course, the Frangrance Hotel Imperial sits on a bigger plot but the Fragrance Hotel Lavender sites on a small corner plot.

I plan to go down to CityLights ths afternoon to look at the latest development and the surrounding. If there are people taking photos of CityLights, that must be you or Excelsvr. Cheers !!

KK Boy, maybe you will meet me :D

I am going to depart for Citylights soon!

Yes, let's all celebrate, CHEERS, cause TOP is approaching! :banana:

I plan to go down to CityLights ths afternoon to look at the latest development and the surrounding. If there are people taking photos of CityLights, that must be you or Excelsvr. Cheers !!

You won't find me there today. The weekend is always a family day. :)

was there this noon, the main road leading to the entrance has been tarred. also asked the guard about BCA inspection, he told the inspection will finish by next week.

You won't find me there today. The weekend is always a family day. :)

Yeah ^^

Family time. But my whole family is overseas!

was there this noon, the main road leading to the entrance has been tarred. also asked the guard about BCA inspection, he told the inspection will finish by next week.

Nice ^^

So TOP is probably around 1st December as expected by Capitaland.

The main road to the entrance was tarred long ago. You went overseas?

Taken today with the K800i.

Another angle of the Signboard :D

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00525.jpg

The respective Blocks / Towers soaring into the cool, blue sky :D

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00526.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00527.jpg

Interesting angle of the Towers!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00532.jpg

The Overall Effect of the Entrance isn't very spectacular :(

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00531.jpg

A few OT items to post here today :cool:

The 30-storey Lavender flats are being repainted to Purple and Lavender!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00530.jpg

The skylight makes my leg go jelly :D

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00529.jpg

Something is going on at the Kallang GasWorks site!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00528.jpg

Just found this out : the chinese name for Citylights is 城光. Sounds nice, at least better than Bobo Tan Gardens :lol:

Wrong, it is not 城光 . It should be 瓅之尚都. See the Zaobao article below:

买公寓安家 (2006/05/21)

周晶表示对住的要求很高，她觉得公寓的环境较好，又有许多设施，而屋内装潢也较为讲究，住了比较舒服。
　　6年前从上海孤身前来狮城念书的周晶（24岁）不久前终于在原本陌生的地方找到了家的温暖感觉。

　　这名性格爽朗独立的小妮子刚于今年5月，以46万多元买下碧山一个私人公寓单位，拥有了一片真正属于自己的空间。

　　周晶说：“在新加坡买公寓比较省时省力，房子已铺好地砖，房间和厨房也设有基本橱柜，只需买些电器和家具就马上能搬进来住了，根本不需要找承包商来装修，可以省下很多麻烦。”

　　其实在提升为私人公寓业主之前，周晶几乎每年搬家一次，她曾分别租过3套公寓和2个组屋单位。“我对住的要求很高，相比之下，我觉得公寓的环境比较好，又有许多设施，最重要的是屋子内部装潢较为讲究，住了比较舒服。”

　　周晶说：“我不怎么习惯住在组屋，觉得屋与屋之间隔得很近，没什么隐私可言，隔壁邻居说话只要稍微提高音量就听得到，而且我很不明白为何这里组屋的住户总喜欢把家大门敞开给别人看。”

　　她说：“反正我以前每个月也需花900多元还租金，倒不如用这笔钱来买公寓，至少还清银行贷款后房子就完全属于自己的了。”

　　在上海也是住公寓的周晶说，新加坡公寓的居住环境和上海基本上很相似。“只不过上海的公寓很少设有游泳池，因为冬天水会结冰，没这么实用。”

　　“新加坡的公寓设施比较完善，管理上也比较有系统。现在我每个月的管理费约两百元，包括停车费和预订设施的费用。在上海，停车费则是另外计算。”

　　已在2003年成为新加坡永久居民的周晶，18岁那年被“无良”中介“骗”来狮城修读语文课程，后来她自己报读南洋理工学院的多媒体与资讯通信专业文凭课程，由于成绩优秀，去年毕业后她就获新加坡国立大学录取，目前在国大修读电脑系。

　　在家开设补习中心

　　过去几年来，周晶都利用课余的时间半工半读，一边儿念书，一边儿教华文补习。后来学生越收越多，于是她在两年前决定自己创业，在家里开设补习中心。

　　现在周晶在碧山面积达900平方英尺的公寓，不只是她的心灵栖息地，也是她创业梦想起飞的地方。她把其中一个房间腾出来给学生上课，每逢星期五至星期日为他们补习华文。

　　周晶的母亲目前持短期社交访问准证前来和她一起居住，从商的父亲偶尔也会飞来新加坡和她们团聚。

　　和父母亲关系密切的周晶说：“父亲喜欢自己下厨动手做些小菜，我自己平时也喜欢包馄饨吃，有了新家，我们一家三口就随时可以在家里舒舒服服的煮几道家乡小菜来享天伦。”

　　中国人是第三大外国买家

　　近年来，我国私人房地产越来越受中国投资者和新移民的青睐。目前中国买家已是本地私人房地产市场的第三大外国买家，仅次于印尼人和马来西亚人。每10名外国买家当中，就有1个是中国人。

　　ERA产业助理副总裁林东荣受访时透露，两年前，中国买家仅占该集团外国买家总数的不到5%，现在这个比例已增加到10%。

　　PropNex集团董事蔡华莲说：“中国房地产价格上涨，一些中国客户告诉我们，他们在中国脱售一项房地产所得，足以在本地购买两三间公寓。”

　　最近掀起抢购热潮的滨海舫(The Sail@Marina Bay)也吸引了不少中国买家进场。

　　发展商城市发展集团总经理谢仰丰说，中国买家的购买力越来越大，不少人专程飞来新加坡选购第二座公寓大楼的单位。“有些还一口气买下整层楼的全部单位，有的买来自己住，有些则是买来投资。 ”

　　近年来，本地发展商纷纷放眼神州大地，把房地产项目直接带到中国各大城市去行销，抢攻这个庞大的市场。

　　远东机构从去年开始就积极进攻中国市场。该机构房地产销售部业务总裁谢文华说，随着新加坡经济增长强劲及市场投资气氛改善，有越来越多中国买家对新加坡的房地产产生兴趣。

　　谢文华说：“去年我们总共出售了50个单位给中国买家，今年到目前为止，各个房地产项目也同样有50个单位是卖给中国人。”

　　由嘉德置地发展、坐落在劳明达地铁站旁的瓅之尚都（ Citylights）公寓也受到中国买家力捧。发言人说：“这些中国买家主要是在新加坡工作的专业人士。”

　　去年8月成为新加坡永久居民的朱乔治（50岁，商人）在去年4月到今年7月之间，以将近250万元在本地购买了3个房地产项目，即99 年地契的碧山豪园(Rafflesia)和海涛苑(Water Place)各一个单位，以及中央城居家办公单位(SOHO)。

　　原本在上海经营运动休闲用品业务的朱乔治刚于不久前把公司总部迁移到新加坡。

　　他说：“我们原先是在新加坡、澳洲和香港这3个地方之间做选择。可是后来考虑到新加坡的人文和居住环境比较理想，语言沟通上也没有问题，所以就决定在这里落户。”

Taken today with the K800i.
The Overall Effect of the Entrance isn't very spectacular :(

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00531.jpg

Agreed. The signage is less than spectacular. They should have added the Chinese name of Citylights: 瓅之尚都 and the brown/black logo :

http://www.citylights.com.sg/pres/display/images/login-row1-3.jpg

Something is going on at the Kallang GasWorks site!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00528.jpg

I think they are only planting trees on the reserved land?

A few OT items to post here today :cool:

The 30-storey Lavender flats are being repainted to Purple and Lavender!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00530.jpg


Smart choice of colours to choose a lavender theme. Their previous colours with dark blue and white looked awful.

was there this noon, the main road leading to the entrance has been tarred. also asked the guard about BCA inspection, he told the inspection will finish by next week.

The road was tarred last week and the previous parking lots on Jellicoe Road leading to the main entrance were not painted (i.e.,they have been removed). Yet that did not stop motorists from parking there illegally.

I think Towers 86, 88 and 90 are nearly or fully completed. Tower 80 still have many windows on lower floors covered with blue laminates and workers inside rushing to complete the work.

I think they are only planting trees on the reserved land?

Plant more! Make a forest! I don't want the land to be sold to build a high rise resdential tower because of a reason many of us know here ;)

Agreed. The signage is less than spectacular. They should have added the Chinese name of Citylights: 瓅之尚都 and the brown/black logo :

http://www.citylights.com.sg/pres/display/images/login-row1-3.jpg

At least they bothered to light it up. But I think this design is OK. From afar at the 30-storey Lavander flats, I could read the name clearly.

So if you ask me I'd rather they build something practical than add those black / brown icons, as f they did that, the signage would have to be downsized.

Wrong, it is not 城光 . It should be 瓅之尚都. See the Zaobao article below:

买公寓安家 (2006/05/21)

周晶表示对住的要求很高，她觉得公寓的环境较好，又有许多设施，而屋内装潢也较为讲究，住了比较舒服。
　　6年前从上海孤身前来狮城念书的周晶（24岁）不久前终于在原本陌生的地方找到了家的温暖感觉。

　　这名性格爽朗独立的小妮子刚于今年5月，以46万多元买下碧山一个私人公寓单位，拥有了一片真正属于自己的空间。

　　周晶说：“在新加坡买公寓比较省时省力，房子已铺好地砖，房间和厨房也设有基本橱柜，只需买些电器和家具就马上能搬进来住了，根本不需要找承包商来装修，可以省下很多麻烦。”

　　其实在提升为私人公寓业主之前，周晶几乎每年搬家一次，她曾分别租过3套公寓和2个组屋单位。“我对住的要求很高，相比之下，我觉得公寓的环境比较好，又有许多设施，最重要的是屋子内部装潢较为讲究，住了比较舒服。”

　　周晶说：“我不怎么习惯住在组屋，觉得屋与屋之间隔得很近，没什么隐私可言，隔壁邻居说话只要稍微提高音量就听得到，而且我很不明白为何这里组屋的住户总喜欢把家大门敞开给别人看。”

　　她说：“反正我以前每个月也需花900多元还租金，倒不如用这笔钱来买公寓，至少还清银行贷款后房子就完全属于自己的了。”

　　在上海也是住公寓的周晶说，新加坡公寓的居住环境和上海基本上很相似。“只不过上海的公寓很少设有游泳池，因为冬天水会结冰，没这么实用。”

　　“新加坡的公寓设施比较完善，管理上也比较有系统。现在我每个月的管理费约两百元，包括停车费和预订设施的费用。在上海，停车费则是另外计算。”

　　已在2003年成为新加坡永久居民的周晶，18岁那年被“无良”中介“骗”来狮城修读语文课程，后来她自己报读南洋理工学院的多媒体与资讯通信专业文凭课程，由于成绩优秀，去年毕业后她就获新加坡国立大学录取，目前在国大修读电脑系。

　　在家开设补习中心

　　过去几年来，周晶都利用课余的时间半工半读，一边儿念书，一边儿教华文补习。后来学生越收越多，于是她在两年前决定自己创业，在家里开设补习中心。

　　现在周晶在碧山面积达900平方英尺的公寓，不只是她的心灵栖息地，也是她创业梦想起飞的地方。她把其中一个房间腾出来给学生上课，每逢星期五至星期日为他们补习华文。

　　周晶的母亲目前持短期社交访问准证前来和她一起居住，从商的父亲偶尔也会飞来新加坡和她们团聚。

　　和父母亲关系密切的周晶说：“父亲喜欢自己下厨动手做些小菜，我自己平时也喜欢包馄饨吃，有了新家，我们一家三口就随时可以在家里舒舒服服的煮几道家乡小菜来享天伦。”

　　中国人是第三大外国买家

　　近年来，我国私人房地产越来越受中国投资者和新移民的青睐。目前中国买家已是本地私人房地产市场的第三大外国买家，仅次于印尼人和马来西亚人。每10名外国买家当中，就有1个是中国人。

　　ERA产业助理副总裁林东荣受访时透露，两年前，中国买家仅占该集团外国买家总数的不到5%，现在这个比例已增加到10%。

　　PropNex集团董事蔡华莲说：“中国房地产价格上涨，一些中国客户告诉我们，他们在中国脱售一项房地产所得，足以在本地购买两三间公寓。”

　　最近掀起抢购热潮的滨海舫(The Sail@Marina Bay)也吸引了不少中国买家进场。

　　发展商城市发展集团总经理谢仰丰说，中国买家的购买力越来越大，不少人专程飞来新加坡选购第二座公寓大楼的单位。“有些还一口气买下整层楼的全部单位，有的买来自己住，有些则是买来投资。 ”

　　近年来，本地发展商纷纷放眼神州大地，把房地产项目直接带到中国各大城市去行销，抢攻这个庞大的市场。

　　远东机构从去年开始就积极进攻中国市场。该机构房地产销售部业务总裁谢文华说，随着新加坡经济增长强劲及市场投资气氛改善，有越来越多中国买家对新加坡的房地产产生兴趣。

　　谢文华说：“去年我们总共出售了50个单位给中国买家，今年到目前为止，各个房地产项目也同样有50个单位是卖给中国人。”

　　由嘉德置地发展、坐落在劳明达地铁站旁的瓅之尚都（ Citylights）公寓也受到中国买家力捧。发言人说：“这些中国买家主要是在新加坡工作的专业人士。”

　　去年8月成为新加坡永久居民的朱乔治（50岁，商人）在去年4月到今年7月之间，以将近250万元在本地购买了3个房地产项目，即99 年地契的碧山豪园(Rafflesia)和海涛苑(Water Place)各一个单位，以及中央城居家办公单位(SOHO)。

　　原本在上海经营运动休闲用品业务的朱乔治刚于不久前把公司总部迁移到新加坡。

　　他说：“我们原先是在新加坡、澳洲和香港这3个地方之间做选择。可是后来考虑到新加坡的人文和居住环境比较理想，语言沟通上也没有问题，所以就决定在这里落户。”

Thanks for correcting me. Though I thought I saw "CHENG GUANG" in the street directory..

Smart choice of colours to choose a lavender theme. Their previous colours with dark blue and white looked awful.

It also reflects the location :D

Agreed. The signage is less than spectacular. They should have added the Chinese name of Citylights: 瓅之尚都 and the brown/black logo :

http://www.citylights.com.sg/pres/display/images/login-row1-3.jpg

Also, they forgot to add in someting like:

CITYLIGHTS

80, 86, 88, 90 Jellicoe Road

The road was tarred last week and the previous parking lots on Jellicoe Road leading to the main entrance were not painted (i.e.,they have been removed). Yet that did not stop motorists from parking there illegally.

I think Towers 86, 88 and 90 are nearly or fully completed. Tower 80 still have many windows on lower floors covered with blue laminates and workers inside rushing to complete the work.

Yeah - the guard was mentioning something like "Tower 4 not checked because not completed yet!"

I am going down to Citylights again now to take a night scene of the signboard. I'll be back to post later :D

Most likely December, lavandar. Everything is completed! I can understand your eager anticipartion, me too :lol:

I went to look at CityLights around 6PM today. I saw a man wearing an army cap sitting near CityLights. Is that you ?

I went to look at CityLights around 6PM today. I saw a man wearing an army cap sitting near CityLights. Is that you ?

Unfortunately, no :(

I went at 4PM.

Spot the sky terrace competition!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00537.jpg

And lastly, the creme da la creme. The lighted up signboard at night! Nice. Practical and passable design.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00536.jpg

Unfortunately, no :(

I went at 4PM.

:D

Yeah - the guard was mentioning something like "Tower 4 not checked because not completed yet!"

I am going down to Citylights again now to take a night scene of the signboard. I'll be back to post later :D

I drove past it a while ago and saw the lighted sign.... no camera with me this time. There are two huge Transtar coaches blocking the main entrance. I think they should look for a new place to pick up passengers.

I often seen this Coaches park near the main entrance. I would think this is illegal. In future I hope they will not block the entrance. What do you reckon ?:)

There are two car parks in Citylight. One of them is the multi-storey car park and the other is below the swimming pool. How do they allocate the parking lots ? Those staying at Block 80 park at the car park below the siwmmig pool whereas those staying at other blocks will park at the multi-storey carpark ?

I drove past it a while ago and saw the lighted sign.... no camera with me this time. There are two huge Transtar coaches blocking the main entrance. I think they should look for a new place to pick up passengers.

yes, was just about to post this... do you think the coaches will find another boarding place? It is so unpleasant to have coaches in front and blocking the main entrance.

Maybe we lodge a complaint that might work...who knows.

Don't want to see coaches & passengers around there will block the way

Any news on the Hotel development on top Lavendar MRT ? Is been quiet lately .

Maybe we lodge a complaint that might work...who knows.

Don't want to see coaches & passengers around there will block the way

It looks very "龙蛇混杂“ with crowds of passengers, mostly foreigners, sitting/resting on pavements, smoking and talking very loundly.

I often seen this Coaches park near the main entrance. I would think this is illegal. In future I hope they will not block the entrance. What do you reckon ?:)

I think the residents can inform the MC to act on this. Worse case write to LTA?

I hope this area won't turn out or resemble like Geylang red light district as now there is now 2 Fragrance Hotel & Hotel 81 behind to lane.

I think the residents can inform the MC to act on this. Worse case write to LTA?

I did send my feedback to LTA recently..... but got no reply yet. Maybe we just need to go down to the Lavender MRT station and tell Regent Star Travel to move their buses away.

I hope this area won't turn out or resemble like Geylang red light district as now there is now 2 Fragrance Hotel & Hotel 81 behind to lane.

It won't. The pimps and the gals know their limits. The surroundings are also not right.

Overall Like & dislike:

Like:
1. MRT nearby
2. The Sea view Kallang Basin
3. Near eateries.
4. Near Bugis Shopping Centre & Orchard
5. Near future IR
6. City View

Dislike:
1. Surrounding area not great like Kitcherner Complex , Cheap Hotels etc.
2. Buses or coaches parking nearby Citylights

OVerall I give 7/10 rating wa ha thumbs up man

With the latest set of Citylights photos uploaded, excitement is building up towards the TOP. When TOP is obtained, hope that the owners could bring us in for a look.

like the sail thread, there will be a TOP party.
anyone ops for a TOP party?

like the sail thread, there will be a TOP party.
anyone ops for a TOP party?


Sounds interesting ! Why not ?

Today I was at Citylights walking around, went in the MRT & out towards ICA. I walk along till near Southbank. I had my lunch there. Owners of Citylights should be happy as Citylight location is much better then Southbank. Southbank's to MRT is quite far as you need to walk further to the bridge to cross. Also the surroundings there is not great.:cheers:

I drove past it a while ago and saw the lighted sign.... no camera with me this time. There are two huge Transtar coaches blocking the main entrance. I think they should look for a new place to pick up passengers.

Hehe :D

I took it first :D

:D
By the way is any of the forumners here an old man with white hair? I saw one when taking pictures :D

I often seen this Coaches park near the main entrance. I would think this is illegal. In future I hope they will not block the entrance. What do you reckon ?:)

Yeah, they're damn irritating. MC already take out the parking lots yet they still have the audicity to park there.

Let's complain! :D :D

yes, was just about to post this... do you think the coaches will find another boarding place? It is so unpleasant to have coaches in front and blocking the main entrance.

I think they should do the loading / unloading in Golden Mile Complex since that is where most of the coach operators operate :D

I think the residents can inform the MC to act on this. Worse case write to LTA?

I think we should ruthlessly write to LTA. Sometimes even if you personally tell them to go they won't.

Bribe them? :D

Not worth it :lol:

I hope this area won't turn out or resemble like Geylang red light district as now there is now 2 Fragrance Hotel & Hotel 81 behind to lane.

Relax, those hotels are for backpackers.

The Fragrance Imperial even has a pool, cafe and a 7-eleven.

By the way is any of the forumners here an old man with white hair? I saw one when taking pictures :D

I took some photos of the metal staircase and entrance this morning. I have got white hair (98% black and 2% white).

like the sail thread, there will be a TOP party.
anyone ops for a TOP party?
Let's all chip in to organise one! :D

Overall Like & dislike:

Like:
1. MRT nearby
2. The Sea view Kallang Basin
3. Near eateries.
4. Near Bugis Shopping Centre & Orchard
5. Near future IR
6. City View

Dislike:
1. Surrounding area not great like Kitcherner Complex , Cheap Hotels etc.
2. Buses or coaches parking nearby Citylights

OVerall I give 7/10 rating wa ha thumbs up man

I think Kitchener Complex is Ok. Many ineteresting shops there like bakery, 7-11 and fruits store. Perfect when you short of fruits or need cup noodles.

The coaches will sure go if we threaten with lawyers letter.

For me, only minus point is probably the exterior look which could do with more glass.

With the latest set of Citylights photos uploaded, excitement is building up towards the TOP. When TOP is obtained, hope that the owners could bring us in for a look.

Sorry, but I don't mean to be wet blanket, but TOP won't be that soon as the pavement towards the bus stop and drainage works along Penhas Road are not completed yet.

Today I was at Citylights walking around, went in the MRT & out towards ICA. I walk along till near Southbank. I had my lunch there. Owners of Citylights should be happy as Citylight location is much better then Southbank. Southbank's to MRT is quite far as you need to walk further to the bridge to cross. Also the surroundings there is not great.:cheers:

Yeah. They kept saying Southbank is close to Lavender MRT but we are even closer to the MRT :D

Taken today :D

The sun shining on the blocks makes it look futuristic :D

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00541.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00542.jpg

I took some photos of the metal staircase and entrance this morning. I have got white hair (98% black and 2% white).

Post it here! Post it here!

By the way it couldn't be you since that old man's hair was FULLY WHITE and he was driving this BMW 7-series :D

Post it here! Post it here!

By the way it couldn't be you since that old man's hair was FULLY WHITE and he was driving this BMW 7-series :D

I hope I am the one driving the BMW 7-series.


http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/chautakvui/Citylight-27Nov2007.jpg

Taken today :D

The sun shining on the blocks makes it look futuristic :D

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00541.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00542.jpg

That is really breathtaking. Every one whom I spoke to about Citylights these days (some don't know it by name but knew it by location) said it looks big and nice and the location is very convenient.

I hope I am the one driving the BMW 7-series.


http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/chautakvui/Citylight-27Nov2007.jpg

Work towards buying the 7-series. Motivation for you :lol:

Nice image of the staircase. If only we could climb over :D

That is really breathtaking. Every one whom I spoke to about Citylights these days (some don't know it by name but knew it by location) said it looks big and nice and the location is very convenient.

Yeah ^^

Citylights is getting more and more popular.

Who says Citylights looks like HDB? Each and everyone of my family memebrs say it looks more high-class to be a HDB :D

I am just wondering if the Citylights "perforated staircase" is counted in the
GFA or not. There was a period of time when developers used "external perforated staircase" because it was not counted towards the GFA, but a URA circular issued in Oct 2004 changed the rule.


Circular No : URA/PB/2004/31-DCD Fax: 6227 4792
Our Ref : DC/ADMIN/CIRCULAR/PB_04
Date : 18 Oct 2004

CIRCULAR TO PROFESSIONAL INSTITUTES

GROSS FLOOR AREA (GFA) TREATMENT FOR UNCOVERED
EXTERNAL PERFORATED STAIRCASE
Objective of Guideline

To address end-users’ concerns of safety, maintenance and usability
associated with uncovered external perforated staircases.

Effective date - With effect from 18 January 2005
Who should know - Architects, engineers, developers, owners, residents and Management Corporations

Background

1 In the past, uncovered external perforated staircases were proposed
mainly for industrial developments. As these staircases serve only the
workers of the industrial developments, which are generally low-rise and
less intensive, they are acceptable in the context of industrial activities.
However, where the perforated staircases are subsequently covered,
they would be computed as additional GFA.


2 However, over the last few years, there has been an increasing trend
among developers to introduce such uncovered perforated staircases in
residential and commercial buildings since they are not considered as
GFA. To ensure that occupiers of the building have a set of proper
staircase to use, URA requires that a proper covered staircase serving
all the units be provided in a development before we can approve such
external perforated staircases.


3 Recently, URA has received adverse feedback from building owners,
end-users and management corporations that uncovered perforated
staircases pose serious downstream maintenance and safety problems
for the occupants of the building. For instance, the staircases become
slippery when exposed to wet weather and are prone to corrosion since
they are generally constructed of steel and exposed to the elements.
There is also the fear of falling, as external perforated staircases are not
enclosed and users are exposed to high heights. There have been
requests to cover up and enclose the external perforated staircases to
address these problems. However, the enclosing of the staircase would
increase the GFA and plot ratio of the site and therefore, violate the
Master Plan Gross Plot Ratio (GPR) control.

4 External perforated staircases do add to the overall building bulk and
should therefore be counted as GFA. In view of the shortcomings of the
perforated staircases and the fact that these staircases add to the
physical bulk of buildings, we have reviewed the guidelines and
concluded that the current GFA exemption should be withdrawn so as
not to encourage the provision of uncovered perforated staircases, which
are undesirable building features especially in non-industrial
developments.

Revised Guidelines


5 All uncovered external perforated staircases will henceforth, be counted
as GFA. By including these staircases as GFA upfront, the building
owners will be free to cover up the staircase subsequently when
concerns regarding safety, maintenance and usability arise.

Implementation

6 To give the industry sufficient advance notice of the change, the revised
guidelines to include uncovered perforated staircases as GFA will apply
to all new development applications received on and after 18 January
2005. Formal development applications (which do not include Outline
applications) received prior to 18 January 2005 will continue to be
evaluated under the existing guidelines.

7 For pure industrial or warehouse developments, external metal
perforated staircase can continue to be allowed without being counted as
GFA . However, the current basic requirement that the development
must have at least one proper covered staircase serving all units will
continue to apply.

8 This Circular will supersede the URA Circular No. URA/PB/2001/11-DCD
dated 26 April 2001.

9 I would appreciate it if you could convey the contents of this circular to
the relevant members of your organisation. If you or your members have
any queries concerning this circular, please do not hesitate to call our
DCD Customer Service Hotline at Tel: 6223 4811 or e-mail us at
URA_CSO@ura.gov.sg. We would be pleased to answer queries on this,
and any other development control matter. For your information, the past
circulars to the professional institutes are available from our website
http://www.ura.gov.sg.

10 Thank you.

FOO CHEE SEE
DIRECTOR (DEVELOPMENT CONTROL)
for CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER
URBAN REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY

I think Kitchener Complex is Ok. Many ineteresting shops there like bakery, 7-11 and fruits store. Perfect when you short of fruits or need cup noodles.

The coaches will sure go if we threaten with lawyers letter.

For me, only minus point is probably the exterior look which could do with more glass.

I tot Citylights had much glass liao??! Almost 90% of its front... you wanna compare citylights to Sail, where the whole building is glass cladded?

Not possible to have all glass. The design of Sail & Citylights they are different.

Work towards buying the 7-series. Motivation for you :lol:

Nice image of the staircase. If only we could climb over :D

I still cannot figure out why they have used steel staircase. It will be quite an experience for someone with height phobia to walk down from very high floor.

I still cannot figure out why they have used steel staircase. It will be quite an experience for someone with height phobia to walk down from very high floor.

I am still wondering if the steel staircase was counted as part of Citylights' Gross Floor Area (GFA). If the developer was able to exclude the staircase's area from the GFA by building a steel staircase, then there is clearly an incentive to have a steel staircase. This allows the developer to build and sell more units.

recently,just saw this website.saw the pictures taken by you guys.wow,all so well taken.i also can't wait for TOP to come.from what you guys previously comment it mean it won't TOP so fast in next month?:nuts:by the way which blocks are you guys staying in citylights?

recently,just saw this website.saw the pictures taken by you guys.wow,all so well taken.i also can't wait for TOP to come.from what you guys previously comment it mean it won't TOP so fast in next month?:nuts:by the way which blocks are you guys staying in citylights?

I stay in T88. Nice number leh! :lol:

I tot Citylights had much glass liao??! Almost 90% of its front... you wanna compare citylights to Sail, where the whole building is glass cladded?

I was talking about the back where there is this whole row of Aluminium Panels, making the building look very "concrete".

I still cannot figure out why they have used steel staircase. It will be quite an experience for someone with height phobia to walk down from very high floor.

At the same time it is cool! Imagine standing at the 41st floor staircase and looking down :eek::runaway::eek2:

I am still wondering if the steel staircase was counted as part of Citylights' Gross Floor Area (GFA). If the developer was able to exclude the staircase's area from the GFA by building a steel staircase, then there is clearly an incentive to have a steel staircase. This allows the developer to build and sell more units.

So the question now is " Is the Steel Staircase counted in the GFA of Citylights?"

I think no.

So the question now is " Is the Steel Staircase counted in the GFA of Citylights?"

I think no.

I also think it is not. Citylights was approved for sale in 2004 whereas the policy change was made only in 2005.

I don't understand how the developer can build perforated stairways to take advantage of the older policy of GFA exclusion to build more units? Maybe the staircases can add more bulk to the building but the number of units should be already predetermined by the GFA.

I stay in T88. Nice number leh! :lol:

My unit is in 86. Together with other numbers of the unit's address, they formed an exact mirror of my auspicious car plate number which had brought me some good luck so far. I only realized this fact 2 months ago. I think I might have subconsciously picked the unit whose numbers looked just like my auspicious car plate numbers. :lol:

I also think it is not. Citylights was approved for sale in 2004 whereas the policy change was made only in 2005.

I don't understand how the developer can build perforated stairways to take advantage of the older policy of GFA exclusion to build more units? Maybe the staircases can add more bulk to the building but the number of units should be already predetermined by the GFA.

Yeah. The policy change was made only 1 year after Citylights obtained permit to build the units etc.

GFA determines how many units can be built determined b the size of the units.

Of course there are other factors that uses the GFA, and there are also cases by which GFA cannot be fully maximised.

My unit is in 86. Together with other numbers of the unit's address, they formed an exact mirror of my auspicious car plate number which had brought me some good luck so far. I only realized this fact 2 months ago. I think I might have subconsciously picked the unit whose numbers looked just like my auspicious car plate numbers. :lol:


Mine is T80 - Stack 4.

Mine is T80 - Stack 4.

Yes, we also know the unit level - the exact address too :D :D

My unit is in 86. Together with other numbers of the unit's address, they formed an exact mirror of my auspicious car plate number which had brought me some good luck so far. I only realized this fact 2 months ago. I think I might have subconsciously picked the unit whose numbers looked just like my auspicious car plate numbers. :lol:

Wow. Lucky Maverick :D

Bought a unit he didn't know that will bring him good luck :D

By the way Maverick is your unit Stack 17?

My unit is in 86. Together with other numbers of the unit's address, they formed an exact mirror of my auspicious car plate number which had brought me some good luck so far. I only realized this fact 2 months ago. I think I might have subconsciously picked the unit whose numbers looked just like my auspicious car plate numbers. :lol:

wow.. not only you got citylights, but you also own a number of cars...

And we may be sharing the same auspicious car plate number..
mine's 68.. yours?

I'm in blk 88! :)

Wow. Lucky Maverick :D

Bought a unit he didn't know that will bring him good luck :D

By the way Maverick is your unit Stack 17?

Hahaha ... I better not give more info for the sake of enjoying some privacy. In case I stay there and want to keep the door open for ventilation, I might see people standing outside looking in to see what I am doing. :lol:

wow.. not only you got citylights, but you also own a number of cars...

And we may be sharing the same auspicious car plate number..
mine's 68.. yours?

My mistake. It should be number, not numbers.... I'm not rich. :lol:

Mine has more digits in it and also contained your set of numbers, plus it sounds more "effective". :)

I also think it is not. Citylights was approved for sale in 2004 whereas the policy change was made only in 2005.

I don't understand how the developer can build perforated stairways to take advantage of the older policy of GFA exclusion to build more units? Maybe the staircases can add more bulk to the building but the number of units should be already predetermined by the GFA.

Normal staircases count towards the GFA. The bigger the staircase area, the lesser the remaining GFA to be used for residential units.

At the same time it is cool! Imagine standing at the 41st floor staircase and looking down :eek::runaway::eek2:

the view at 41st floor is not :eek::runaway:...
it is awesome!!! :)

the view at 41st floor is not :eek::runaway:...
it is awesome!!! :)

It will be fun to have vertical marathon at CityLights. As the steel staircases are not enclosed, we can see the runners from outside at ground level.

so anybody here has received any lawyer's letter?

It will be fun to have vertical marathon at CityLights. As the steel staircases are not enclosed, we can see the runners from outside at ground level.

haha. but negative! the staircase may collapse???

I'm in blk 88! :)

Same block as you! :banana:

Hahaha ... I better not give more info for the sake of enjoying some privacy. In case I stay there and want to keep the door open for ventilation, I might see people standing outside looking in to see what I am doing. :lol:

Narrow the possibility by hanging a Barbie Doll at your door? :lol:

Since you want privacy, we give you privacy :lol:

My mistake. It should be number, not numbers.... I'm not rich. :lol:

Mine has more digits in it and also contained your set of numbers, plus it sounds more "effective". :)

Well, if you own 5 QQ's it doesn't mean your rich.

Similarly, if you own 1 Rolls-Royce, you are rich :D

So it actually depends on the make, not the number of cars :D

haha. but negative! the staircase may collapse???

Why should it? :D :D

the view at 41st floor is not :eek::runaway:...
it is awesome!!! :)

Well, my leg's already turned jelly at the 30-storey Lavender Flats' skylight. So 41st floors..

But the view up there is awesome!

It will be fun to have vertical marathon at CityLights. As the steel staircases are not enclosed, we can see the runners from outside at ground level.

Cool! Let's have Fear Factor perform that here :D

I think Fear Factor once did a vertical marathon on the Empire State Building before, so Citylights can be a good choice :D

so anybody here has received any lawyer's letter?

Not so soon, they haven't completed the pavement towards the bus stop along Lavender Street and drainage works along Penhas Road is still in it's final stages.

I think Citylights will TOP in mid-December.

Not so soon, they haven't completed the pavement towards the bus stop along Lavender Street and drainage works along Penhas Road is still in it's final stages.

I think Citylights will TOP in mid-December.

well, if they want, they can finish the pavement within 1 or 2 days. pretty fast and easy job. I even seen this happened at some sites, just within 3 or 4 hours...

As of tonight, there are still more level ( think about 5) at blk 80 that has partial blue protector have not been tear off.

Think by the week, they should complete their work at blk 80.

While we are waiting for the TOP, let us be entertained with one of the designs of the Sports Hub. You can visit the following website for a video presentation on the design by one of the bidders for the Sports Hub : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceGZuFzefC4

I stay in T88. Nice number leh! :lol:

ok,i stay in blk 86.same as maverick.think almost all stay in different block.btw i remember the lifts need access card in order to go to the level right except the playing ground level in t80 and sky terrace.:uh:

Well, my leg's already turned jelly at the 30-storey Lavender Flats' skylight. So 41st floors..

But the view up there is awesome!

ya,agreed.that day i went up to the hdb level 30,my legs almost go jelly.:lol:but still think stay high in citylights is better with the great views.

well, if they want, they can finish the pavement within 1 or 2 days. pretty fast and easy job. I even seen this happened at some sites, just within 3 or 4 hours...

The pavement and drainage work is almost done. Looks like only left grass turfing.

WOW.. :cheers: the TOP is very imminent then.. actually the original expected TOP in the lawyer letter is 20th Dec 2007. Let's hope it wont be delayed anymore. There are many things that to settle after the TOP though. Inspection, repair, bank loan, etc etc.. gonna be a busy week yah..

usually how does the warranty inspection process go? how long does it take? can the inspection/repair be done together with ID work?

The pavement and drainage work is almost done. Looks like only left grass turfing.

Turfing can be very fast. The turfing along Kallang Road was undone 3 - 4 days ago but 2 days ago it was all done up.

Unbelievably fast!

well, if they want, they can finish the pavement within 1 or 2 days. pretty fast and easy job. I even seen this happened at some sites, just within 3 or 4 hours...

The pavement is completing soon! Patrons can walk over it already but the nets are still there.

That area seriously needs a good turfing.

As of tonight, there are still more level ( think about 5) at blk 80 that has partial blue protector have not been tear off.

Think by the week, they should complete their work at blk 80.

Yeah, should complete by this week, followed by inspection, then it will TOP around mid-December! :banana:

ok,i stay in blk 86.same as maverick.think almost all stay in different block.btw i remember the lifts need access card in order to go to the level right except the playing ground level in t80 and sky terrace.:uh:

Yes, access card for the lift lobbies.

I think I know almost which blocks the forumners here live in.

KK Boy: Block 80

Maverick: Block 86

Citylander: Block 86

Lotuspocus: Block 88

Excelsvr: Block 88

The forumners here are smart not to buy Block 90! :D

If you are a owner at Citylights, you may feel free to add which block you live in :D

ya,agreed.that day i went up to the hdb level 30,my legs almost go jelly.:lol:but still think stay high in citylights is better with the great views.

Actually the view doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is that the 30-storey Lavender Flats' skylight has every floor's beam protruding out, so you can actually see the many floors before seeing the lobby which appears to be small.

The pavement and drainage work is almost done. Looks like only left grass turfing.

Yes. Once they complete the turfing and the remaining units in T80, the it's...:banana:

CHEERS !!

WOW.. :cheers: the TOP is very imminent then.. actually the original expected TOP in the lawyer letter is 20th Dec 2007. Let's hope it wont be delayed anymore. There are many things that to settle after the TOP though. Inspection, repair, bank loan, etc etc.. gonna be a busy week yah..

I thought the lawyer's letter put 1st December?

Anyway the TOP is going to be real soon so turn on your engines!

Well, busy week, yes, but soon we can get the keys! :banana:

usually how does the warranty inspection process go? how long does it take? can the inspection/repair be done together with ID work?

I think it is up to you.

You can chec for repairs while your ID does the carpentry work, OR you can also inspect first then commence work.

If I remember correctly, dddddd and cmwong456 are also in Blk 88. Sango123 is in Blk 80.

KK Boy: Block 80

Maverick: Block 86

Citylander: Block 86

Lotuspocus: Block 88

Excelsvr: Block 88

dddddd: Block 88

cmwong456: Block 88

sango123: Block 80

Correct me if I am wrong.

I think it is up to you.

You can chec for repairs while your ID does the carpentry work, OR you can also inspect first then commence work.

No, you cant get the ID going in and do any work while the inspection is carried on. You only can get the ID starts once you are satisfied with the overall condition of your condo. The management will advise you not to get ID starts if you want to complain about the paint work, furnishing (window,kitchen,wardrobe,toilet). They will not want to bear the responsible anymore. So usually, it is better to get your inspection done as early as possible. As it will take a long time for your unit to get repaired (few days), this is the reason on why the TOP is also released in batches.

However, other than that, you have 1 year guarantee period on the unit. Like toilet or windows break down, but not on the finishing touch up.

No, you cant get the ID going in and do any work while the inspection is carried on. You only can get the ID starts once you are satisfied with the overall condition of your condo. The management will advise you not to get ID starts if you want to complain about the paint work, furnishing (window,kitchen,wardrobe,toilet). They will not want to bear the responsible anymore. So usually, it is better to get your inspection done as early as possible. As it will take a long time for your unit to get repaired (few days), this is the reason on why the TOP is also released in batches.

However, other than that, you have 1 year guarantee period on the unit. Like toilet or windows break down, but not on the finishing touch up.


Ok, thanks for correcting me, have you ever witnessed / experienced TOp before that's why so expert in it?

If I remember correctly, dddddd and cmwong456 are also in Blk 88. Sango123 is in Blk 80.

KK Boy: Block 80

Maverick: Block 86

Citylander: Block 86

Lotuspocus: Block 88

Excelsvr: Block 88

dddddd: Block 88

cmwong456: Block 88

sango123: Block 80
Correct me if I am wrong.

Cool! So let's categorize it.

Block 88: dddddd, cmwong456, Excelsvr.

Block 86: Maverick, citylander.

Block 80: sango123, KK Boy.

Looks like majority of us like Block 88 better. Or maybe it's the number :lol:

Ok, thanks for correcting me, have you ever witnessed / experienced TOp before that's why so expert in it?

:) I am not an expert, but i have experienced 2 times TOP so far. Well, as much as i can say, it will be a hectic week especially if you are working full time and still single and alone in foreign land like me. There are many things to be settled and so little time available (if you thinking of renting it out asap).

:) I am not an expert, but i have experienced 2 times TOP so far. Well, as much as i can say, it will be a hectic week especially if you are working full time and still single and alone in foreign land like me. There are many things to be settled and so little time available (if you thinking of renting it out asap).

I want it for own stay. Yeah, will be a hectic week as you need to pay stamp duty etc.

On top of that, you still have to meet up, collect keys, check for defects, send the defects letter, wait for the repairs, and only after all these can you finally start renovation works.

Cool! So let's categorize it.

Block 88: dddddd, cmwong456, Excelsvr.

Block 86: Maverick, citylander.

Block 80: sango123, KK Boy.

Looks like majority of us like Block 88 better. Or maybe it's the number :lol:

me : block 86 not 88

Block 88: dddddd, Excelsvr.

Block 86: Maverick, citylander, cmwong456

Block 80: sango123, KK Boy, infinity88

Block 88: dddddd, Excelsvr.

Block 86: Maverick, citylander, cmwong456

Block 80: sango123, KK Boy, infinity88

Aye! Didn't see you for a while :)

Wow, so many forumners here choose Block 80 and Block 88, why so little people choose Block 86? :?

Aye! Didn't see you for a while :)

Wow, so many forumners here choose Block 80 and Block 88, why so little people choose Block 86? :?

Hi, Excelsvr,

How do you do? I have been very busy with work. Like you, I am very excited about moving in Citylights.

I guess you mean why Block 86 is popular. Because it is located the furthest from the blockage of Block 80 (my block :D, sorry).

But I would say all units in Citylights are popular, even the lower level ones. Don't you think so?

Hi, Excelsvr,

How do you do? I have been very busy with work. Like you, I am very excited about moving in Citylights.

I guess you mean why Block 86 is popular. Because it is located the furthest from the blockage of Block 80 (my block :D, sorry).

But I would say all units in Citylights are popular, even the lower level ones. Don't you think so?

Hi infinty88!

Yes. We all need to earn money to pay the remaining 80% of the sale price as TOP is imminent! :D :D

Yes, I agree with you that all units in Citylights is popular because some people don't really need the views. They'd rather have a good location (1 stop to Bugis, 2 stops to City Hall and 3 stops to Raffles Place).

The units on the lower floors are ok because they either view the pool and recreational facilities or the landscape deck on top of the MSCP for Blocks 86, 88 and 90. So I guess it's what you go for :)

Hey! No worries! So what if you stay in the Block that blocks me? For me, the focus is the Kallang Basin, National Stadium and the Sea, so you don't really block me :)

Even if you do, I won't mind it :)

Cheers, TOP is advancing!

No, you cant get the ID going in and do any work while the inspection is carried on. You only can get the ID starts once you are satisfied with the overall condition of your condo. The management will advise you not to get ID starts if you want to complain about the paint work, furnishing (window,kitchen,wardrobe,toilet). They will not want to bear the responsible anymore. So usually, it is better to get your inspection done as early as possible. As it will take a long time for your unit to get repaired (few days), this is the reason on why the TOP is also released in batches.

However, other than that, you have 1 year guarantee period on the unit. Like toilet or windows break down, but not on the finishing touch up.

Darwish is right! No one is allowed on site while inspection is going on. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, when your lawyer tells you that TOP is on a certain, give or take a few weeks from there. It can be really frustrating. What some of you might like to do is to get an ID and show him/her your floor plan and come up with an estimated quotation. When you have collected your key, do the rectification immediately and pass the key to your contractor. As for paintwork, if you are repainting your place, forget about rectification. Just my 2 cents worth.

Darwish is right! No one is allowed on site while inspection is going on. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, when your lawyer tells you that TOP is on a certain, give or take a few weeks from there. It can be really frustrating. What some of you might like to do is to get an ID and show him/her your floor plan and come up with an estimated quotation. When you have collected your key, do the rectification immediately and pass the key to your contractor. As for paintwork, if you are repainting your place, forget about rectification. Just my 2 cents worth.

Wow, alek11 expert after experiencing the TOP of Domain 21 :)

Alek11 since you have experienced Domain 21 TOP before, how long do they usually take to recitify the damages?

Correction:

Block 88: Excelsvr
Block 86: Maverick, citylander, cmwong456, dddddd
Block 80: sango123, KK Boy, infinity88

looks like the most popular among forummers here is block 86 so far.
The reason i chose 86 was, it is the furthest block from blockage.

Correction:

Block 88: Excelsvr
Block 86:
Block 80: sango123, KK Boy, infinity88

looks like the most popular among forummers here is block 86 so far.
The reason i chose 86 was, it is the furthest block from blockage.


Correction again, it should be:

Block 88: Excelsvr, Lotuspocus

Block 86: Maverick, citylander, cmwong456, dddddd

Block 80: Sango123, KK Boy, infinity88

Looks like Block 90 still has no takers yet. Block 86 wins hands down!

By the way I thought infinity88 was in Block 88?

Hi, Excelsvr

No leh. I am all along in Block 80. What makes you think I am in Block 88? I prefer the number 88 though.

Block 88: Excelsvr, Lotuspocus, blink

Block 86: Maverick, citylander, cmwong456, dddddd

Block 80: Sango123, KK Boy, infinity88

I was considering between Block 86 and 88 but finally chose 88 because in comparison:

:yes: auspicious number
:yes::yes: being the middle block, it is protected by the neighbouring blocks.
:yes::yes::yes: the layout suits my Bazi better
:yes::yes::yes::yes: should be quieter being further from the main road
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes: may have slightly better city view though very little and insignicant due to blockage by block 80

Block 88: Excelsvr, Lotuspocus, blink

Block 86: Maverick, citylander, cmwong456, dddddd

Block 80: Sango123, KK Boy, infinity88

I was considering between Block 86 and 88 but finally chose 88 because in comparison:

:yes: auspicious number
:yes::yes: being the middle block, it is protected by the neighbouring blocks.
:yes::yes::yes: the layout suits my Bazi better
:yes::yes::yes::yes: should be quieter being further from the main road
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes: may have slightly better city view though very little and insignicant due to blockage by block 80

Cool! Now Block 80 and Block 88 have the same number of forumners. By the way, Blink, didn't see you for a while. Welcome back!

For me, the reasons are as such for chossing Block 88, with some being the same as Blink's reasons:

:yes: Auspicious Number
:yes::yes: Having the sky terrace right smack in the middle of the block
:yes::yes::yes: Pool view from there better
:yes::yes::yes::yes: Road noise is shielded from two blocks surrounding it
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes: Dunno why, just like the fact that it is the middle block ;)

Hi, Excelsvr

No leh. I am all along in Block 80. What makes you think I am in Block 88? I prefer the number 88 though.

I don't know why. I think it is because your user name is infinity88 :lol:

:yes::yes::yes: the layout suits my Bazi better


Why Blk 88 suits your bazi better? I thought the layouts between Blk 86, 88 and 90 are more or less identical for things such as windows/doors facing and position of the rooms/kitchen/stoves etc.?

My geomancer visited me yesterday to brief us on his analysis of our Citylights unit's layout based on our bazi. The tentative conclusion is this place suits us much better than my current place which is deemed not suitable for a member of the family. He also advised me to revise my original ID plans as some of the design features can bring bad luck. :ohno: these analysis may seems to be hocus pocus to some but I think I would probably follow his instructions.

Looks like Block 90 still has no takers yet.

Looks like everybody forgot about Blk 82 where there are ten units of heritage townhouses. :lol:

Why Blk 88 suits your bazi better? I thought the layouts between Blk 86, 88 and 90 are more or less identical for things such as windows/doors facing and position of the rooms/kitchen/stoves etc.?

My geomancer visited me yesterday to brief us on his analysis of our Citylights unit's layout based on our bazi. The tentative conclusion is this place suits us much better than my current place which is deemed not suitable for a member of the family. He also advised me to revise my original ID plans as some of the design features can bring bad luck. :ohno: these analysis may seems to be hocus pocus to some but I think I would probably follow his instructions.

Well maybe blink has a 4-bedder which are mostly housed in Block 88. Other than that I think the layouts are more or less the same.

Which design feature can bring bad luck? Black tempered glass TV Console? I don't understand why furniture alone can bring bad luck since I am not involved in geomancy :D

Looks like everybody forgot about Blk 82 where there are ten units of heritage townhouses. :lol:

Well, if any forumner has a unit at Block 82, I would gladly want to step into the unit to see how different it is from the tower blocks.

I don't think any forumner lives in the onserved heritage town houses, otherwise, they would have added their name in [if they had visited the Citylights thread].

Cheers, Citylights is going to TOP soon!

Block 88: Excelsvr, Lotuspocus, blink

Block 86: Maverick, citylander, cmwong456, dddddd, manophilo

Block 80: Sango123, KK Boy, infinity88



Has everyone taken out their mortgages at this point? I'm just wondering if anyone has taken out variable 1-yr no lock-in mortgages, especially those pegged to SIBOR and if so, which banks did you choose?

Well maybe blink has a 4-bedder which are mostly housed in Block 88. Other than that I think the layouts are more or less the same.

Which design feature can bring bad luck? Black tempered glass TV Console? I don't understand why furniture alone can bring bad luck since I am not involved in geomancy :D

I am also not much involved in geomancy so I took his advice with a pinch of salt. He said that the in my ID plans, the 3 cylindrical vertical lamps dangling over the dining table look like 3 tomb headstones. The large mirror at the dining room also cannot be split down in the middle when seen from the dining table.

The master bedroom wall feature behind the bed has wood laminates designs that splits down vertically in the center to create an image of two tombs. The false ceiling L-box also created an inauspicious overhead beam at our bed head.

The built-in aquarium (which is my favourite feature) near the main door would drown the chi or wealth at that critical "support" location and that is really bad for promotions, payrises, job security etc. He stressed that this aquarium feature must be scrapped or moved away whereas the other weaknesses can be mitigated with simple redesigns.

Believe it or not, it is up to the individual. :)

I am also not much involved in geomancy so I took his advice with a pinch of salt. He said that the in my ID plans, the 3 identical vertical lamps dangling over the dining table look like 3 tomb headstones. The master bedroom wall feature behind the bed has wood laminates designs that splits down vertically in the center to create an image of two tombs. The false ceiling L-box also created an inauspicious overhead beam at our bed head.

The built-in aquarium (which is my favourite feature) near the main door would drown the chi or wealth at that critical "support" location and that is really bad for promotions, payrises, job security etc. He stressed that this aquarium feature must be scrapped whereas the other weaknesses can be mitigated with simple redesigns.

Believe it or not, it is up to the individual.

I think the three identical vertical lamps hanging down is a nice feature! You may want to change the headboard since it isn't your favourite, but since you are just taking the geomancy advices with a pinch of salt and the aquarium is your favourite feature, why don't you keep it? :D

Very chimp indeed. So much restriction too!

I think the three identical vertical lamps hanging down is a nice feature! You may want to change the headboard since it isn't your favourite, but since you are just taking the geomancy advices with a pinch of salt and that is your favourite feature, why don't you keep it? :D

Sometimes if it does not cost too much, a simple redesign can be a psychological comfort just to get any doubts out of the mind even for a casual non-believer. Afterall, he advised me never to let these things become a self-fullfilling prophecies although by human nature, people tend to worry if they don't follow.

He told me to keep the 3 vertical lamps but make them hang at different heights. He also suggested that the headboard feature wall is more appropriate to have horizontal sections instead of vertical sections. I'm ok with that since neither direction mean much to me. The beam over the bed can be minimized with a narrower L-box etc.

The only thing he is very adamant about is the embedded aquarium at the entrance, which my ID and myself liked a lot because of the great effect. I have to brainstorm where to place that now since he sounded so serious about removing that. :ohno:

Very chimp indeed. So much restriction too!


That's why I think it is better to design one's house on one's own so as to minimise restrictions.

Of course, it is still good to get second opinion :)

That's why I think it is better to design one's house on one's own so as to minimise restrictions.

Of course, it is still good to get second opinion :)

Or simply forget about getting a geomancer to check it in the first place. For me, I couldn't resist. :lol:

Sometimes if it does not cost too much, a simple redesign can be a psychological comfort just to get any doubts out of the mind even for a casual non-believer. Afterall, he advised me never to let these things become a self-fullfilling prophecies although by human nature, people tend to worry if they don't follow.

He told me to keep the 3 vertical lamps but make them hang at different heights. He also suggested that the headboard feature wall is more appropriate to have horizontal sections instead of vertical sections. I'm ok with that since neither direction mean much to me. The beam over the bed can be minimized with a narrower L-box etc.

The only thing he is very adamant about is the embedded aquarium at the entrance, which my ID and myself liked a lot because of the great effect. I have to brainstorm where to place that now since he sounded so serious about removing that. :ohno:

Now the contrast..

Now you can keep the things you like but not as much as the aquarium which you adore so much.

If you really want an aquarium, why don't you try doing it like this, like what an owner in Glentrees did, designed by Vegas Interior Design that I had mentioned a few pages back?

Here, the owner has decided to placa the aquarium below the TV Console because it reportedly benefits the place [in terms of geomancy].

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/Excelsvr/DSC00572.jpg

Sorry if the image is too blur, too dark :)

Wow, alek11 expert after experiencing the TOP of Domain 21 :)

Alek11 since you have experienced Domain 21 TOP before, how long do they usually take to recitify the damages?

Hi Excelsvr, in response to your queries, if you are one of the earlier key owners, inspect your unit asap and send it to the management office. They will get it down immediately if not the next day. Also, you can rectify the major ones and do others as you go along. No hard and fast rules. Good luck!

Now the contrast..

Now you can keep the things you like but not as much as the aquarium which you adore so much.

If you really want an aquarium, why don't you try doing it like this, like what an owner in Glentrees did, designed by Vegas Interior Design that I had mentioned a few pages back?

Here, the owner has decided to placa the aquarium below the TV Console because it reportedly benefits the place [in terms of geomancy].

Sorry if the image is too blur, too dark :)

Can't see much but you certainly had given me an idea to work on ....

Thanks.

Hi Excelsvr, in response to your queries, if you are one of the earlier key owners, inspect your unit asap and send it to the management office. They will get it down immediately if not the next day. Also, you can rectify the major ones and do others as you go along. No hard and fast rules. Good luck!

Oh, so that's why they TOP in phases, so won't have long queue formed by residents waiting to recitify the damages. By the way, alek11, someone in the Pinnacle 16 thread mentioned that the bathtub draining pipe leaks for certain units. Does your unit in Domain 21 have this damage? If so, is it common in your estate or in most of the new projects in Singapore? I think it is not?

I hope I am one of the first to collect keys!

Can't see much but you certainly had given me an idea to work on ....

Thanks.

You are welcome.

I will try to scan it tonight to show it to you. The picture shown to you was taken by my camera phone, then uploaded here.

Hi Excelsvr, in response to your queries, if you are one of the earlier key owners, inspect your unit asap and send it to the management office. They will get it down immediately if not the next day. Also, you can rectify the major ones and do others as you go along. No hard and fast rules. Good luck!
One major area to inspect is yr bathroom floor - run the tap or shower all over the floor. wait n see if there is some 'ponding'. if there is, likely the floor tiles not laid properly. the resulting rectification work is 'major', so best to find these out early. For bathroom also, look out for basin top, must be properly aligned and sealed well and even. also marble grain tho subjective, but if the natural flaw in the grain is too obvious as in poor grade, then insist on replacement.

another aspect is to look out at all walls n ceilings carefully - they must be reasonably flat and have edges that are straight, not slant or crooked. rectification will mean that yr renovation i.e. new paintwork or wallpaper etc, will not be compromised. Esp when u put false ceiling, the comparison or non-parallelism will be very obvious. Or look closely at how the air con is aligned with the ceiling/wall edge.

of cos, parquet flooring n marble flooring - no need to say, must look out carefully for gaps or cracks that need fixing.

One major area to inspect is yr bathroom floor - run the tap or shower all over the floor. wait n see if there is some 'ponding'. if there is, likely the floor tiles not laid properly. the resulting rectification work is 'major', so best to find these out early. For bathroom also, look out for basin top, must be properly aligned and sealed well and even. also marble grain tho subjective, but if the natural flaw in the grain is too obvious as in poor grade, then insist on replacement.

another aspect is to look out at all walls n ceilings carefully - they must be reasonably flat and have edges that are straight, not slant or crooked. rectification will mean that yr renovation i.e. new paintwork or wallpaper etc, will not be compromised.

of cos, parquet flooring n marble flooring - no need to say, must look out carefully for gaps or cracks that need fixing.

Thanks, didn't know about the 'ponding' thing to check :)

But what if we insist in changing the marble but Capitaland says there is a disclaimer in the brochure saying that "Marble and Graniteare natural materials with tonality differences. There will be colour and bla bla bla" that prevents us from changing the marble / granite?

Also, what if the timber is also bad quality like the marble? Then when we try to change it, they say disclaimer is "Timber is a natural material, so it is not possible to achieve total consistency of colour and grain in its installation"? Do we have right to change if the degree of the marble is not of good grade but they put all those disclaimer?

Also, seems like you have experienced a TOP before? Which condominium project make you so knowledgeable? ;)

'ponding' is like mini flooding. eye sore, ppl can slip, mosquito larvae kekeke. actually, shd check throughout the house where washing is expected e.g. kitchen floor, but the must check ones are bathroom floors in n outside shower areas.

all issues are up to how sharp n convincing u make yr case to be, with merit. Tat means also, that u r the buyer/customer so despite the std disclaimers, u hv the right to be a satisfied customer. of cos, dun be nasty.

the marble grain that cannot make it is the type that is really big eyesore with obvious cracks, sometimes if u look carefully, the supplier 'rescued' the marble by patching up - so the quality therein can be off the marked - totally unnatural. natural defects yes, but not until so obvious n patched, comparing w other tiles around the house or of same type will make r case convincing. I mean u can actually instruct r lawyer to withhold the last payment after TOP.

experienced? was spoilt by the quality provided by developer in my previous place at East Coast. ;)

btw, check r toilet flushing system repeatedly but be aware that the 'float' that controls the water filling up can 'fail' i.e. the water will just overflood n flood the floor. if it does happen, it will still happen after a few years. when this happens, it does not have to mean that the some leak comes from the water pipes hidden inside the walls. the cause can be simpler than that. talking abt walls, careful how n where drilling is done, u dun want that contractor to drill too close to a pipe or pee chia the pipe....

talking abt walls, careful how n where drilling is done, u dun want that contractor to drill too close to a pipe or pee chia the pipe....
Very true .... I recall a case some years ago where a young boy died of gas suffocation in his bedroom during the first night the family spent in the new condo. Their contractor had drilled a hole into a hidden gas pipe when installing cabinets without realizing it. :ohno: Tragic case of a life lost ....

Very true .... I recall a case some years ago where a young boy died of gas suffocation in his bedroom during the first night the family spent in the new condo. Their contractor had drilled a hole into a hidden gas pipe when installing cabinets without realizing it. :ohno: Tragic case of a life lost ....


Will we be given the electrical and piping drawing ? remember for HDB flat, we need to requested separately from them.

Will we be given the electrical and piping drawing ? remember for HDB flat, we need to requested separately from them.

I think we have to request for the plan but lets wait and see.

Will we be given the electrical and piping drawing ? remember for HDB flat, we need to requested separately from them.

All the plans will be in a bag when they pass you the keys. As for Domain 21, I didn't encounter too many problems except minor ones like the drainage was a bit slow and the windows were making unnecessary creaking sound when you open n close it. I didn't have any major problems and yet to hear any others. However, I had to change my gas stove to electric ones because it's so windy in the kitchen and thus makes more sense to use induction plates.

Very true .... I recall a case some years ago where a young boy died of gas suffocation in his bedroom during the first night the family spent in the new condo. Their contractor had drilled a hole into a hidden gas pipe when installing cabinets without realizing it. :ohno: Tragic case of a life lost ....

ballota park, opp Changi Prison. It's always good to keep a house well ventilated.

Will we be given the electrical and piping drawing ? remember for HDB flat, we need to requested separately from them.
Mgmt office shd hve such things.

as for electrical wiring, determine wat u r given and wat more n where u want to have laid in the apt.

personally I feel that developers dun provide enuf, ideally, one point for every wall. one reason is that at times u want to lay out yr furniture n table lamps ... so good to hve easy direct access to a point.

btw, if u do a lot of renovation with built in furniture i.e. if such things are still trendy, my humble advice is that they r costly and have no aftersale value. moreover when u want to sell yr place later on, they can discourage the prospective buyer who has to tear down these things etc. Built in furniture also cannot be brought to the next house.

best to do yr own homework n thinking, n set yr theme n compose yr own interior 'design' as simple n as elegant as possible. No need to rush n do everyting at one go, plonking down $$$$.

my place has 11 colors in different rooms :) sorry if my views above r too intrusive or biased.

Mgmt office shd hve such things.

as for electrical wiring, determine wat u r given and wat more n where u want to have laid in the apt.

personally I feel that developers dun provide enuf, ideally, one point for every wall. one reason is that at times u want to lay out yr furniture n table lamps ... so good to hve easy direct access to a point.

btw, if u do a lot of renovation with built in furniture i.e. if such things are still trendy, my humble advice is that they r costly and have no aftersale value. moreover when u want to sell yr place later on, they can discourage the prospective buyer who has to tear down these things etc. Built in furniture also cannot be brought to the next house.

best to do yr own homework n thinking, n set yr theme n compose yr own interior 'design' as simple n as elegant as possible. No need to rush n do everyting at one go, plonking down $$$$.

my place has 11 colors in different rooms :) sorry if my views above r too intrusive or biased.

You must be a very colourful person.

my current HDB, we didn't do much. So for citylight, just like something different, but keep it simple.

You must be a very colourful person.

my current HDB, we didn't do much. So for citylight, just like something different, but keep it simple.

No lah, just adopt a theme like main wall as feature wall n color blend nicely for each room except for one room. Basically the colors go with the furnishing n curtains in each room. In the end there is no sudden garish change from one room to another, so long as the theme for each room in itself is pleasant enuf. Where relevant, feature walls will have some feature like a picture frame or mirror or side board etc. If u do table lamp lighting n ceiling centrepiece lamp, u dun really need a lot of those white ligthings flushed into the false ceiling cos most of the time u dun need it in the living room area, if that is yr life style so to speak. (Western homes on TV v seldom hv those white florescent tubes or lights, the mood is nicer, but of course in rooms, yes for practical reasons)

btw, for marble floor, shd get the developer to polish/wax the floor well, but after cleaning them with water well enuf cos' as in the whole house, when they hand over to you, it is not clean enuf. Anyway, once the marble floor (as well as parquet) are polished, it will be very nice. Marble floor polish shd last 2 years b4 u wish to call in a contractor again.

btw, see if can get those ICI Colorland services: someone will come down n plan with you after snapping photos of the empty rooms n putting them into a software on a laptop. Choose the themes or color schemes, then get a voucher to go buy the paint cans yrself. I am assuming that this approach is still available, but that was what I did. If u cannot paint yrself, of cos, get someone.

In this way, after the lighting n other fixtures u want to put in like additional holders, lighting, glass shelving, towel rails etc in yr bathrooms, yr house moving will be more pleasant n complete. Closthes n loose things, move them yself b4 the big day, easier. Get mover to give u boxes in advance, organize yselves n the boxes, cannot rely on movers cos they dun now what u want where, get plenty of newspapers to lay around in the hse cos of scratches n dirt from boxes n people on that day. Super precious things like piano, lamps etc, pls pay close attention to waht they do, they shd wrap these tings with those protective bubbly plastic sheets, not just cling wraps.

if r yard has a clothes rack, see if you could remount it outside the yard. In my case I took advantage cos' I want the yard to be spacious n the clothes to dry faster 'outside'.

I even sourced for window grilles myself off the web, cheaper than going thru middleman contractor who does some minimal work including a shoe cabinet outside the main door taking advantage of a 'hole' at the side, flushing well pleasantly. The grilles are color matched with the window frames, can be opened. There r young kids at that time, so why take the risk especially with high floor.



Oops, sorry, my 2 cts

Very true .... I recall a case some years ago where a young boy died of gas suffocation in his bedroom during the first night the family spent in the new condo. Their contractor had drilled a hole into a hidden gas pipe when installing cabinets without realizing it. :ohno: Tragic case of a life lost ....

Yes, so tragic. One precious life lost just like this :(

ballota park, opp Changi Prison. It's always good to keep a house well ventilated.

That's why I chose Citylights with many windows, but not in a position that is awkward to place furiniture.

'ponding' is like mini flooding. eye sore, ppl can slip, mosquito larvae kekeke. actually, shd check throughout the house where washing is expected e.g. kitchen floor, but the must check ones are bathroom floors in n outside shower areas.

all issues are up to how sharp n convincing u make yr case to be, with merit. Tat means also, that u r the buyer/customer so despite the std disclaimers, u hv the right to be a satisfied customer. of cos, dun be nasty.

the marble grain that cannot make it is the type that is really big eyesore with obvious cracks, sometimes if u look carefully, the supplier 'rescued' the marble by patching up - so the quality therein can be off the marked - totally unnatural. comparing w other tiles around the house or of same type will make r case convincing. I mean u can actually instruct r lawyer to withhold the last payment after TOP.

experienced? was spoilt by the quality provided by developer in my previous place at East Coast. ;)

btw, check r toilet flushing system repeatedly but be aware that the 'float' that controls the water filling up can 'fail' i.e. the water will just overflood n flood the floor. if it does happen, it will still happen after a few years. when this happens, it does not have to mean that the some leak comes from the water pipes hidden inside the walls. the cause can be simpler than that. talking abt walls, careful how n where drilling is done, u dun want that contractor to drill too close to a pipe or pee chia the pipe....

Yeah, the ponding effect is ugly, but imagine dropping a few fish in to make it a aquarium :D

But I trust Capitaland won't be so stingy to "rescue" the marble. I think they have the financial means to change the defective ones to new and top quality ones.

Imagine the contractor drilling the sewage pipe :D :D

Mgmt office shd hve such things.

as for electrical wiring, determine wat u r given and wat more n where u want to have laid in the apt.

personally I feel that developers dun provide enuf, ideally, one point for every wall. one reason is that at times u want to lay out yr furniture n table lamps ... so good to hve easy direct access to a point.

btw, if u do a lot of renovation with built in furniture i.e. if such things are still trendy, my humble advice is that they r costly and have no aftersale value. moreover when u want to sell yr place later on, they can discourage the prospective buyer who has to tear down these things etc. Built in furniture also cannot be brought to the next house.

best to do yr own homework n thinking, n set yr theme n compose yr own interior 'design' as simple n as elegant as possible. No need to rush n do everyting at one go, plonking down $$$$.

my place has 11 colors in different rooms :) sorry if my views above r too intrusive or biased.

Your views are not intrusive or biased at all, I find them quite informative and interesting too! But built in furniture looks better although cannot move to next house because non-built in ones look too "temporary".

Only minus point of built in furniture is when your estate(s) en bloc, new furniture would have to be purchased.

All the plans will be in a bag when they pass you the keys. As for Domain 21, I didn't encounter too many problems except minor ones like the drainage was a bit slow and the windows were making unnecessary creaking sound when you open n close it. I didn't have any major problems and yet to hear any others. However, I had to change my gas stove to electric ones because it's so windy in the kitchen and thus makes more sense to use induction plates.


Yes, further more it is faster to cook food of the induction plate AKA the electric stove. Wow, if your windows make unnecessary creaking sound, did you change the windows?

Then how do you solve the "slow drainage" problem?

Wow, Low Keng Huat so good, build house but so little defects ;)

You must be a very colourful person.

my current HDB, we didn't do much. So for citylight, just like something different, but keep it simple.


Yes, my old house is also just placed with furniture, no built in features etc. But I Love Home so it doesn't really matter how it looks to me ;)

However Citylights would be one of the last properties I have purchasedfor own stay so I would want the Interior Design to look good and stylo-mylo ;)

No lah, just adopt a theme like main wall as feature wall n color blend nicely for each room except for one room. Basically the colors go with the furnishing n curtains in each room. In the end there is no sudden garish change from one room to another, so long as the theme for each room in itself is pleasant enuf. Where relevant, feature walls will have some feature like a picture frame or mirror or side board etc. If u do table lamp lighting n ceiling centrepiece lamp, u dun really need a lot of those white ligthings flushed into the false ceiling cos most of the time u dun need it in the living room area, if that is yr life style so to speak. (Western homes on TV v seldom hv those white florescent tubes or lights, the mood is nicer, but of course in rooms, yes for practical reasons)

btw, for marble floor, shd get the developer to polish/wax the floor well, but after cleaning them with water well enuf cos' as in the whole house, when they hand over to you, it is not clean enuf. Anyway, once the marble floor (as well as parquet) are polished, it will be very nice. Marble floor polish shd last 2 years b4 u wish to call in a contractor again.

btw, see if can get those ICI Colorland services: someone will come down n plan with you after snapping photos of the empty rooms n putting them into a software on a laptop. Choose the themes or color schemes, then get a voucher to go buy the paint cans yrself. I am assuming that this approach is still available, but that was what I did. If u cannot paint yrself, of cos, get someone.

In this way, after the lighting n other fixtures u want to put in like additional holders, lighting, glass shelving, towel rails etc in yr bathrooms, yr house moving will be more pleasant n complete.

if r yard has a clothes rack, see if you could remount it outside the yard. In my case I took advantage cos' I want the yard to be spacious n the clothes to dry faster 'outside'.

I even sourced for window grilles myself off the web, cheaper than going thru middleman contractor who does some minimal work including a shoe cabinet outside the main door taking advantage of a 'hole' at the side, flushing well pleasantly. The grilles are color matched with the window frames, can be opened. There r young kids at that time, so why take the risk especially with high floor.



Oops, sorry, my 2 cts

Yes, when they hand the house over to you, it will be very dusty and the air will reek of the "dust" smell :ohno:

However as you had mentioned after a good scrub down the house will be deemed liveable and we can start enjoying!

built in has to be custom made - the quality tends not to last. with wear n tear, may be difficult to fix. I 'invested' in a dining table n sideboard tat 'lasts' cos they have a post modern english design, mahogany veneer or wood etc. can be handed down to future generations ;).

I mix n match furniture pieces from Park Mall, Mahattan Suites at Mohd Sultan, even IKEA. Lighting Centre is a good source for reasonably priced pieces. In all, probably more than 10 different sources/suppliers. Art pieces/painting there is a good shop at Toa Payoh. They also do large mirrors. In the end, some things can be moved around the house to recompose n refresh.


Smaller pieces or other functional tings, from teak furniture shops along east coast rd for example.

the main thing is to noe wat u want, n go thru some magazines m study what the shops offer. Main ting is to get the satisfaction that u hv a pleasing simply inexpensively done home. U noe when ppl come to your house n tink that u got professional help. Same thing with turning yr car into something different n special without killing the design, overdoing any modification or improvements. And yet, not blowing yr budget like going for the hottest pc of equipment available.

By the way let's conduct a poll here to see if we will install girlles.

a. Will Install Grilles

b. Will NOT Install Grilles

I choose b. I won't want to spoil the look of the building / facade. However for safety concerns I will lock windows at times to prevent climbing. If we want to open then I would probably advise family members to be careful and not climb.

built in has to be custom made - the quality tends not to last. with wear n tear, may be difficult to fix. I 'invested' in a dining table n sideboard tat 'lasts' cos they have a post modern english design, mahogany veneer or wood etc. can be handed down to future generations ;).

I mix n match furniture pieces from Park Mall, Mahattan Suites at Mohd Sultan, even IKEA. Lighting Centre is a good source for reasonably priced pieces. In all, probably more than10 different sources/suppliers.


Smaller pieces or other functional tings, from teak furniture shops along east coast rd for example.

the main thing is to noe wat u want, n go thru some magazines m study what the shops offer. Main ting is to get the satisfaction that u hv a pleasing simply inexpensively done home. U noe when ppl come to your house n tink that u got professional help. Same thing with turning yr car into something different n special without killing the design, overdoing any modification or improvements. And yet, not blowing yr budget like going for the hottest pc of equipment available.

Woah, bonder.bond. Your comments are very informative and well-written, and you seem like some professional ID, knowing about furniture, interior design, what to look out for when recitfying the damages!

Why Blk 88 suits your bazi better? I thought the layouts between Blk 86, 88 and 90 are more or less identical for things such as windows/doors facing and position of the rooms/kitchen/stoves etc.?
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Pardon me. Yes, the layouts are identical in the 3 blocks. However, the layout for the left wing is the mirror image of right wing within the same block. It just so happens that my choice unit that suits my bazi matches 1 available unit in blk 88 during the second phase release.

By the way let's conduct a poll here to see if we will install girlles.

a. Will Install Grilles

b. Will NOT Install Grilles

I choose b. I won't want to spoil the look of the building / facade. However for safety concerns I will lock windows at times to prevent climbing. If we want to open then I would probably advise family members to be careful and not climb.

I won't since there is no children, no maid :D in the house. So safety should not be a major concern.

Woah, bonder.bond. Your comments are very informative and well-written, and you seem like some professional ID, knowing about furniture, interior design, what to look out for when recitfying the damages!
no i.d. lah, just dun get conned by them so easily. once, when items like wall paper n curtain material design were discussed, the price quoted was simply :bash:

so in the end, take responsibility n D.I.Y. Then there was some NTUC-initiated firm in Marina Sq, went there get some quotes n referrals etc, n had a contractor from AMK Industrial Park to do the basic works (lighting, switches, false ceiling, some functional cabinets n shelving).

The rest as mentioned earlier, all diy, both from old house n with new ideas simply bcos old house had built ins. Actually to be honest, built in was there due to 2 reasons, limited space in house so built in to get more space n younger than, built in allows u to justify n obtained company renovation loan. Those were the days.

seriously, when u do yr homework, u get more satisfaction.

btw, if u can get freebies from developer like spare tiles here n there, they may come in handy just in case.

Yes, when they hand the house over to you, it will be very dusty and the air will reek of the "dust" smell :ohno:

However as you had mentioned after a good scrub down the house will be deemed liveable and we can start enjoying!

well, when u show yr house to future potential buyers, a neat clean uncluttered place helps more than anyting else. if no value add, at least no value erosion in that sense.

Recent transacted Price:

18 Nov 07 Blk 86 #33-20 2 bdrm 893sqft $1,071,600 $1,200psf
12 Nov 07 Blk 88 #09-24 1 bdrm 560sqft $ 604,800 $1,080psf
09 Nov 07 Blk 90 #10-27 1 bdrm 678sqft $ 745,000 $1,098psf
05 Nov 07 Blk 90 #09-29 1 bdrm 560sqft $ 650,000 $1,160psf
31 Oct 07 Blk 88 #08-24 1 bdrm 570sqft $ 630,000 $1,105psf
19 Oct 07 Blk 88 #29-25 2 bdrm 893sqft $1,100,000 $1,231psf

Will the price raise further?

Woah, bonder.bond. Your comments are very informative and well-written, and you seem like some professional ID, knowing about furniture, interior design, what to look out for when recitfying the damages!

look for things w taste, differentiation n dun hv to pay a bomb .... most of all, dun spoil the overall look n class. look out for size, colors, blend, matches n feel. even a piano is a display piece if u have one for its original purposes, n not covering the piano brings out its look n richness. (not baby grand piano tat sort, just a simple straightforward piano)

one experience i had was misjudging the size/dimensions of the fridge viz the kitchen doorwar, can't move in the fridge, got to send back n reselect :nuts:

well I m just sharing, so hopefully no digression. an investment for yr own living satisfaction notwithstanding the actual forum purposes.

I won't since there is no children, no maid :D in the house. So safety should not be a major concern.

when children older, no grilles ...

but as some may know, the condo architect hv some guidelines BUT I ignored the recommended ones - they look factory like n bad - went ahead with my chosen design of the wrought iron kind tat dun clutter up the high floor window view. color blends with window frame so not obvious from outside .. the mgmt cannot do a thing, it;s yr own pte ppty on the inside.

Cool! Now Block 80 and Block 88 have the same number of forumners. By the way, Blink, didn't see you for a while. Welcome back!

For me, the reasons are as such for chossing Block 88, with some being the same as Blink's reasons:

:yes: Auspicious Number
:yes::yes: Having the sky terrace right smack in the middle of the block
:yes::yes::yes: Pool view from there better
:yes::yes::yes::yes: Road noise is shielded from two blocks surrounding it
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes: Dunno why, just like the fact that it is the middle block ;)

Indeed, 88 is an auspicious number. However, I missed the luck of striking 4D. I bought 4D on my unit number (instead of blk number) on the week I purchased my unit but it turns out 0088 emerge as 2nd prize. :(

ballota park, opp Changi Prison. It's always good to keep a house well ventilated.

Yes I remembered now ..... Ballota Park, next to the Edelweiss Park Condo. Found the related news below:

"Call for building code revision after gas-leak death in flat
Engineers and contractors are calling for a revision of the building codes which allow gas pipes to be concealed. They want concealed pipes to be either clearly indicated or not concealed at all. This follows the death of teenager Nelson Choo, who died one day after moving into his new home at Ballota park. His heart and lungs failed after a gas leak in his room."

By the way let's conduct a poll here to see if we will install girlles.

a. Will Install Grilles

b. Will NOT Install Grilles

I choose b. I won't want to spoil the look of the building / facade. However for safety concerns I will lock windows at times to prevent climbing. If we want to open then I would probably advise family members to be careful and not climb.


No grille.

when children older, no grilles ...

but as some may know, the condo architect hv some guidelines BUT I ignored the recommended ones - they look factory like n bad - went ahead with my chosen design of the wrought iron kind tat dun clutter up the high floor window view. color blends with window frame so not obvious from outside .. the mgmt cannot do a thing, it;s yr own pte ppty on the inside.

If the mgmt can't do anything if we don't follow the guidelines for windows grilles, I think I might get something nicer as long as the color tone blends in well. I prefer not to get those aluminium grilles that looks like prison cell gates unless no choice.

Can't take the risk with the little ones after the recent fall of a toddler from a window at Signature Park.

Yes I remembered now ..... Ballota Park, next to the Edelweiss Park Condo. Found the related news below:

"Call for building code revision after gas-leak death in flat
Engineers and contractors are calling for a revision of the building codes which allow gas pipes to be concealed. They want concealed pipes to be either clearly indicated or not concealed at all. This follows the death of teenager Nelson Choo, who died one day after moving into his new home at Ballota park. His heart and lungs failed after a gas leak in his room."

"in his room" ... ironically, leak was not in kitchen, it would hv been better that the gas piping comes in from yard area somehow. nonetheless, too many (young) ppl die nowadays other than natural causes. :ohno:

Indeed, 88 is an auspicious number. However, I missed the luck of striking 4D. I bought 4D on my unit number (instead of blk number) on the week I purchased my unit but it turns out 0088 emerge as 2nd prize. :(

What a close miss - it's not easy to strike 4D. It's better to invest cash in equities and other investments as the probability of making money is higher. :lol:

Yes, further more it is faster to cook food of the induction plate AKA the electric stove. Wow, if your windows make unnecessary creaking sound, did you change the windows?

Then how do you solve the "slow drainage" problem?

Wow, Low Keng Huat so good, build house but so little defects ;)

I didn't change the windows. The contractors came to rectify the problems and now it's ok...just some screws that were screwed too tightly.

With regard to the drainage, it's just some cement problem and got to loosen it and it's okay.

I agree that ID can be a problem but it can be a blessing when you don't have time or don't know what to do with your place. I would suggest doing something minimal to your place but get ideas from the ID. Mix and match your furniture and remember to measure before making purchase. Don't rush to buy; look around and see what's good and whether it goes well with your interior decor.

if r yard has a clothes rack, see if you could remount it outside the yard. In my case I took advantage cos' I want the yard to be spacious n the clothes to dry faster 'outside'.

Outside the yard? You mean put the clothes rack just outside the window at the yard? If yes, sudden rain would create havoc on newly washed clothes.

if the ledge is big enuf, away from a/c. by design there would be a ledge above. in my case, i dun hv rain related problems, since the 'upper' ledge shields the clothes. the key thing is though clothes rack is realli practical, putting them in the yard n not being able to extend it out into the open enuf, n yet cluttering the yard with clothes hanging down like an inverted forest, are problematic. No developer will give u an extended space 'outside' akin to a landed ppty for the clothers to dry.

I can onie say this: if u r gg to live in that apartment, then these are valid issues. if not, just from the viewpoint of investment, then fine as long as it does not concern the buyer. after all not all projects are equal to one another.

cheers

if the ledge is big enuf, away from a/c. by design there would be a ledge above. in my case, i dun hv rain related problems, since the 'upper' ledge shields the clothes. the key thing is though clothes rack is realli practical, putting them in the yard n not being able to extend it out into the open enuf, n yet cluttering the yard with clothes hanging down like an inverted forest, are problematic. No developer will give u an extended space 'outside' akin to a landed ppty for the clothers to dry.

I can onie say this: if u r gg to live in that apartment, then these are valid issues. if not, just from the viewpoint of investment, then fine as long as it does not concern the buyer. after all not all projects are equal to one another.

cheers

Hmmm.... you set me thinking how to squeeze out every inch of extra living space I can find. Thanks.

I won't since there is no children, no maid :D in the house. So safety should not be a major concern.

YAY!

I hope more forumners here choose b :D

no i.d. lah, just dun get conned by them so easily. once, when items like wall paper n curtain material design were discussed, the price quoted was simply :bash:

so in the end, take responsibility n D.I.Y. Then there was some NTUC-initiated firm in Marina Sq, went there get some quotes n referrals etc, n had a contractor from AMK Industrial Park to do the basic works (lighting, switches, false ceiling, some functional cabinets n shelving).

The rest as mentioned earlier, all diy, both from old house n with new ideas simply bcos old house had built ins. Actually to be honest, built in was there due to 2 reasons, limited space in house so built in to get more space n younger than, built in allows u to justify n obtained company renovation loan. Those were the days.

seriously, when u do yr homework, u get more satisfaction.

btw, if u can get freebies from developer like spare tiles here n there, they may come in handy just in case.

I think it is good if you are design savvy yourself as all you need is to hire a contractor to furnish the apartment as it would of course be cheaper.

Yes, in one of my properties, CDL gave me a whole stack of tiles, as spare ones. However I did not have enough space to store it so I returned it :(

well, when u show yr house to future potential buyers, a neat clean uncluttered place helps more than anyting else. if no value add, at least no value erosion in that sense.

Yes, even if the value don't rise, at least don't let it fall :bash:

Recent transacted Price:

18 Nov 07 Blk 86 #33-20 2 bdrm 893sqft $1,071,600 $1,200psf
12 Nov 07 Blk 88 #09-24 1 bdrm 560sqft $ 604,800 $1,080psf
09 Nov 07 Blk 90 #10-27 1 bdrm 678sqft $ 745,000 $1,098psf
05 Nov 07 Blk 90 #09-29 1 bdrm 560sqft $ 650,000 $1,160psf
31 Oct 07 Blk 88 #08-24 1 bdrm 570sqft $ 630,000 $1,105psf
19 Oct 07 Blk 88 #29-25 2 bdrm 893sqft $1,100,000 $1,231psf

Will the price raise further?

Woah! $1,200 psf! Why are prices still hovering around that area? Price limit?

look for things w taste, differentiation n dun hv to pay a bomb .... most of all, dun spoil the overall look n class. look for size, colors, blend, matches n feel. even a piano is a display piece if u have one for its original purposes, n not covering the piano brings out its look n richness. (not baby grand piano tat sort, just a simple straightforward piano)

one experience i had was misjudging the size/dimensions of the fridge viz the kitchen doorwar, can't move in the fridge, got to send back n reselect :nuts:

well I m just sharing, so hopefully no digression. an investment for yr own living satisfaction notwithstanding the actual forum purposes.

Well the ID that I have consulted says that decor should not be overdone to such an extent that the home looks extravagant.

Indeed, 88 is an auspicious number. However, I missed the luck of striking 4D. I bought 4D on my unit number (instead of blk number) on the week I purchased my unit but it turns out 0088 emerge as 2nd prize. :(

Aye! I think it's on one's intuition. Nevermind if you didn't win as long as you didn't bet high! (did you?) :D

Yes I remembered now ..... Ballota Park, next to the Edelweiss Park Condo. Found the related news below:

"Call for building code revision after gas-leak death in flat
Engineers and contractors are calling for a revision of the building codes which allow gas pipes to be concealed. They want concealed pipes to be either clearly indicated or not concealed at all. This follows the death of teenager Nelson Choo, who died one day after moving into his new home at Ballota park. His heart and lungs failed after a gas leak in his room."

How old is Ballota Park? You mean the pipings were not concealed at first?

No grille.

YAY! Let's hope more forumners choose (b) :D

If the mgmt can't do anything if we don't follow the guidelines for windows grilles, I think I might get something nicer as long as the color tone blends in well. I prefer not to get those aluminium grilles that looks like prison cell gates unless no choice.

Can't take the risk with the little ones after the recent fall of a toddler from a window at Signature Park.

So when I see a unit with those nice grilles n Block 86, I will knock on the door to see if it is Maverick713? :D

Actually I think grilles are OK but to maximise the nice view I decided not to put it.

I didn't change the windows. The contractors came to rectify the problems and now it's ok...just some screws that were screwed too tightly.

With regard to the drainage, it's just some cement problem and got to loosen it and it's okay.

I agree that ID can be a problem but it can be a blessing when you don't have time or don't know what to do with your place. I would suggest doing something minimal to your place but get ideas from the ID. Mix and match your furniture and remember to measure before making purchase. Don't rush to buy; look around and see what's good and whether it goes well with your interior decor.

Oh, these damages are minimal.

So you like minimalist designs from the ID?

So when I see a unit with those nice grilles n Block 86, I will knock on the door to see if it is Maverick713? :D

Actually I think grilles are OK but to maximise the nice view I decided not to put it.

You might not see anything if I make my grilles from clear perspex rods or tempered glass strips .... :lol: