View Full Version : PALERMO - Stadio di Palermo (35,000)


VPSI
July 16th, 2011, 05:58 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/7/7d/Palermostemma.png

Unione Sportiva Cittā di Palermo

1x Coppa Italia di Serie C/Lega Pro: 1993

http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/it/home/

http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/it/1011/news_scheda.php?id=24686

http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/it/media/photogallery.php?id=5863

Axelferis
July 18th, 2011, 01:28 PM
I was in palermo during holidays 2 years ago :)

The city is special and they need a better stadium than the actual one.

From those renders it will be pretty

alabro
July 21st, 2011, 12:02 AM
That is very nice! And so incredibly modern for an Italian stadium!

Hopefully the opening of the new Juve stadium will kick start the regeneration of Italian stadiums, and even Italian football. I grew up watching some fantastic Italian teams when I was younger, and would love to see an upturn in Italian football once more!

DimitriB
July 21st, 2011, 08:10 AM
It would be good for the club, city an Sicily.
I assume that Unione Sportiva Cittā di Palermo would be the owner of the stadium.

Also good for a bid for a Euro 20.. in Italy

Axelferis
July 21st, 2011, 01:30 PM
is it true that 6 months only is needed to build it?

Hansadyret
July 22nd, 2011, 11:30 AM
Nice to see more new stadiums are being proposed in the Italian league.

will101
July 22nd, 2011, 05:11 PM
Are there only going to be 28 suites? Did I read the plans right?

Carrerra
July 22nd, 2011, 05:23 PM
Any detailed renders released? Anyway congratulations to Palermo and Italy fans. A little bigger capacity would have been better but the project announced is nice enough. Btw is it legally allowed for private clubs to possess their own stadium in Italy?

islessmore
July 22nd, 2011, 10:18 PM
is it true that 6 months only is needed to build it?

must be mistake, mentioned time period is very short even for alteration or renovation of an existing structure its sized

Axelferis
July 23rd, 2011, 12:38 PM
it doesn't come from me but the president of palermo club de laurentis

adeaide
July 23rd, 2011, 06:34 PM
http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/img/immagini/105422-b.jpg


http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/img/immagini/105418-b.jpg


http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/img/immagini/105421-b.jpg


http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/img/immagini/105419-b.jpg

Axelferis
July 23rd, 2011, 06:41 PM
yellow stairs like juve,chelsea,istanbul...

adeaide
July 23rd, 2011, 08:00 PM
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9208/stadiom.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4069/esternostudio2.jpg

Axelferis
July 23rd, 2011, 09:50 PM
the old was better then... more expensive i guess :D

KingmanIII
July 24th, 2011, 10:23 AM
the old was better then... more expensive i guess :D
yup...taller+ more elaborate cladding + more storeys...

Axelferis
July 24th, 2011, 11:48 AM
but i don't think palermo satdium is full in every game, several times when i see it on tv the stadium isn't half full. I'm not sure the actual average attendace pass 15000 people

kerouac1848
July 24th, 2011, 11:07 PM
They averaged 25k this season. Since they returned to Serie A about 6/7 seasons ago they've never averaged below 23k and in their first season back they actually averaged 33k. Given that new grounds usually see a bump in crowds (better facilities for neutrals, families and the corporate lot) I think 35k is achievable as long as they don't have a terrible season.

MS20
July 26th, 2011, 04:18 AM
but i don't think palermo satdium is full in every game, several times when i see it on tv the stadium isn't half full. I'm not sure the actual average attendace pass 15000 people

Don't see how this makes any difference. No Italian teams play to 95% capacity.

Attendances problems are down to dilapidated stadia, poor security, safety concerns and so on. Build a modern, safe, rectangular stadium in Palermo and you can easily attract 30,000+ people on a weekly basis. 35,000 is ideal. And as kerouac said, new stadiums see attendances rises; in a city where football is entrenched, this should be a given.

VPSI
July 29th, 2011, 12:03 PM
A new seats photos (project)

http://www.ilpalermocalcio.it/it/media/photogallery.php?id=5882

Fizmo1337
July 30th, 2011, 02:34 AM
What's the chance this gets build?

Looks good btw.

adeaide
August 11th, 2011, 12:54 PM
http://www.rtmstudio.it/img/rendering-3d/rendering-esterni-grandi-opere/rendering3d-stadio-palermo-big.jpg

DooCharles
August 13th, 2011, 02:18 AM
^^wow

shqipo
August 19th, 2011, 01:50 PM
sembra piu grande del nuovo "delle alpi"

skaP187
August 19th, 2011, 05:03 PM
The current stadium isnīt that bad is it? I thought it was one of the few real football stadiums in Italy. Maybe I am wrong.

VPSI
November 15th, 2011, 12:22 PM
Questo é il video ufficiale di presentazione del nuovo Stadio di Palermo presentato al Teatro Politeama Garibaldi di Palermo: http://www.palermocalcio.it/it/1112/media/video.php?id=2083 :banana:

Hansadyret
November 16th, 2011, 11:11 AM
^^Looks good, any more info on when the building will start?

VPSI
November 16th, 2011, 11:52 AM
^^Looks good, any more info on when the building will start?
It is only awaiting permission to start work. The financial part is already covered. The stadium project was ready for about 5 years and if we come to now is just the fault of the Italian bureaucracy!

Katafractos
November 27th, 2011, 06:39 PM
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9208/stadiom.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4069/esternostudio2.jpg

That old model is awesome!

Axelferis
December 7th, 2011, 01:44 PM
is this project still sustainable after economic reforms in italy?

I seriously doubt :|

Evil78
December 7th, 2011, 02:01 PM
is this project still sustainable after economic reforms in italy?

I seriously doubt :|

It depends where the money is coming from... Just because the state adopted some economic reforms, doesn't mean that Italy will come to a complete stop.

kerouac1848
December 7th, 2011, 02:54 PM
is this project still sustainable after economic reforms in italy?

I seriously doubt :|

:blahblah:

MS20
December 9th, 2011, 08:25 AM
It depends where the money is coming from... Just because the state adopted some economic reforms, doesn't mean that Italy will come to a complete stop.

Unfortunately, that's how a lot of people think. :ohno:

People seem to think that a country going through economic reform/turmoil shuts down completely. In fact, as many economists would argue, that's the worst possible thing you could do. Italy will have cutbacks, but country's facing recession are usually encouraged to sustain activity to stave off further knock on effects. Constructions projects have a positive impact on employment in many different sectors.

Someone asked a similar question in an Iraqi stadium thread: "how can Iraq be building stadiums at this time"? Complete misses the point.

The big issue for Italian football looking forward is how much attendances will be hit as household purchasing power/surplus income decreases. You can already see the creeping effects of that in Portugal for instance.

Evil78
December 9th, 2011, 04:53 PM
Unfortunately, that's how a lot of people think.

No wonder. :ohno: It's first of all because of the mass-media, which is looking always for sensation, shocking and breaking news. It's very rare nowdays to see or read an objective review... Plus the f*** american rating agencies, which (for obvious reasons) try to put an unnecesary pressure on European economy... Italy has a very strong economy, and is one of the leading exporters in the world, with export-figures last year higher than the UK, Russia, India or many others. So i think they could still finance one or two infrastructure projects... but this discussion is for other threads.

michał_
December 10th, 2011, 02:03 AM
No wonder. :ohno: It's first of all because of the mass-media, which is looking always for sensation, shocking and breaking news. It's very rare nowdays to see or read an objective review... Plus the f*** american rating agencies, which (for obvious reasons) try to put an unnecesary pressure on European economy... Italy has a very strong economy, and is one of the leading exporters in the world, with export-figures last year higher than the UK, Russia, India or many others. So i think they could still finance one or two infrastructure projects... but this discussion is for other threads.

Out of 20-30 they really need. Seriously, Italian stadiums have been crap for several decades now and that won't change unless significant investment is made. Be it private or public - the machine needs to get going and I also completely don't understand why everyone supposes Italy should stop doing anything now...

Axelferis
December 11th, 2011, 05:22 PM
What you have to understand is that if people spend less money due to the fear of the economic context it will affect all sort of expenses!

If the domestic family revenue cut the entertainment expenses then the demand for football for example will be lower than today

An entrepreneur could think "hey the market demand for football is less strong than what i was expecting"

His decision after that could be:

-i cancel this project
-i reduce the cost of it by downsizing the capacity
-i maintain the project even if there will be a weaker demand for football due to the slowdown of consumption.

If i was that entrepreneur i certainly not choose the last option :|