I have just taken the important features of the new project at Sonata Complex
The Allegro @ Sonata
Legato will be the 4th tower. Office will be taken out.
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* 3rd Tower in the vicinity of Sonata Residences complex
* 42 storey building
* A mix of retail units, serviced residences & residential units.
* 4th to 11th floor is serviced residences
* 12th floor to 36floor are 1BR
* Turn-over date is August 2016
* 408 units
* typical floor plan consist of 15 units to a floor.
* Mostly 1BR 42sqm @ 5.3Mil (roughly 126K per sqm)

I really like this project, of all the RLC project, this one has the best master planned..although at first, there were office buildings and a hotel but eventually RLC has taken advantage of the demand on the residential units of this finest project.

wow looks really nice. but this is really pricey. swerte na lang ng bumili sa SONATA.

^^ nice, 1 br unit with 2 bathrooms.

ganda nga eh, just enought mix of glass and concrete.

^^ nice, 1 br unit with 2 bathrooms.

hmnn..pero medyo pricey at p 126K per sqm

i just got off the phone with my agent about this. apparently, part of the reason for the significant price increase is that allegro will more deliverables than sonata 1 and 2. the price is inclusive of cooktop, rangehood, split ACU, shower enclosure, and countertop upgrade, among others. finishes in general are also supposed to be better

my agent also mentioned the possibility of additional services (concierge, houskeeping, etc.), although some will of course have corresponding fees. this makes sense since the building will also be housing serviced apartments

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LOCATION The ALLEGRO - Sonata Place

San Miguel Avenue corner Lourdes Street, Ortigas Center, Mandaluyong City



Developer: Robinsons Land Corp. (The Property Developer of Choice)






GENERAL DESCRIPTION

- Contemporary Architecture

- One of the two-tower residential condominium development i n the second phase to be developed within the Sonata Place complex.

- 42 Storey building, inclusive of 3-level podium for lobby and retail units, guest parking and amenities

- A mix of retail units, serviced residences and residential units

- All flat units



AMENITIES

- Exclusive for Residences:

- Reading lounge & WiFi hot spot area

- Area dedicated to children’s facilities – kiddie pool and play area

- Adult swimming pool

- Shower and changing area

- Multi-purpose function room

- Massage room

- Game room

- Media room

- Roof deck amenities –Sky bar/lounge



Amenities Shared with Serviced Residences:

Wellness Center

- Fitness Gym

- Spa and Sauna Facilities



BUILDING FACILITIES / SERVICES

- Four (4) elevators (3 passenger elevators and 1 service elevator) with key card access system (Exclusive for the residences only)

- Main entrance lobby with reception counter at Ground Floor

- CCTV monitoring of selected common areas

- Automatic smoke detector and fire alarm with sprinkler system at all common areas

- Annunciator panel with emergency speaker at all floors

- Standby power generator for common areas and selected outlets in the residential unit

- Individual mail boxes

- Central garbage area

- Building administration & concierge office

- Water reservoir

- Fire exits



PARKING

- Appurtenant parking slot(s) for 2-bedroom units, 3-bedroom units and penthouse units

- 4 Level basement parking for residents of the two towers

- Podium floor parking for retail and serviced residences guests

TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL FEATURES

- Entrance panel door with viewer

- Provision for: Individual electric line, Cable TV line, Telephone line and Hot water supply line (excluding water heater) for toilet and kitchen

- Ventilation for kitchen and toilets

- Automatic smoke detectors and fire alarm with sprinkler system in all units

- Utility Rooms for all units in Zone 2 and selected units in Zone 1

- Powder room for select units in Zone 1

- Space provision for washer/dryer for all units



UNIT FINISHES

Floor

- Engineer wood flooring at Bedroom areas

- Homogeneous tiles flooring at Living, Dining and Kitchen

- Homogeneous tiles flooring at Toilet & Bath and Utility Room

Wall

- Homogeneous tiles for walls of Toilet & Bath

- Plastered painted finish for interior walls

Ceiling

- Painted plain cement finish at Living, Dining, Kitchen and Bedrooms

- Painted gypsum board at Toilet & Bath



OTHER DELIVERABLES

All units

- Wardrobe closets for all units

- Modular base and overhead kitchen cabinets and drawers

- Solid surface kitchen countertop

- Stainless steel kitchen sink with swivel faucet

- European-brand kitchen and toilets fixtures

- Walk-in closet for select units

- Water Filtration system for the Kitchen

- Cook top with range hood for all units: 1BR – 2 Burner; All other units – 4 Burner

- Shower glass partitions for all toilets except in utility toilets

- Split-type air conditioners for all units



Penthouse Units

- Personal safety box

- Bath tub and separate shower area with enclosure

- His and Hers lavatory for Master’s Bedroom toilet



Basement 1 to 4 : Parking for Residents

Ground Floor : Main lobby, reception, amenity spaces and retail units

2nd Floor : Podium parking

3rd Floor : Amenities

4th to 11th Floors : Serviced Residences

12th to 37th Floor : Zone 1 or the 1-Bedroom Zone

43rd Floor: Penthouse



Design consultant for the project.

Principal Architect : W.V. Coscolluela and Associates

Structural Designer : SY2 + Associates

Plumbing, Sanity & Fire Pro : NBF Consulting Engineers

Electrical Designer : M.A. Alix & Partners

Mechanical Designer : L.R. Punsalan & Associates



Approximate floor area for each type of unit.

1 Bedroom 42.55 – 64.96 sqm (exclusive of Balcony Area)

2 Bedrooms 114.29 – 119.12 sqm (exclusive of Balcony Area)

3 Bedrooms 149.00 – 169.64 sqm (exclusive of Balcony Area)



INVESTMENT PRICE RANGE

1 BR Php 6,059,360.00 – Php 6,332,760.00

2 BR Php 14,006,951.00 – Php 14,702,080.00

3 BR Php 18,412.100.00 – Php 21,413,721.00



PARKING RIGHT (PRICE PER SLOT)

Php 945,000.00 – Php 985,000.00



PAYMENT SCHEMES – Zero Interest

Option 1: Cash (15% Discount)

Option 2: 40/60 (40% Installment, 60% Retention)

Option 3: 10/30/60 (10% Spot Downpayment, 30% Installment, 60% Retention)

Option 4: 20/20/60 (20% Spot Downpayment, 20% Installment, 60% Retention)



RESERVATION: Php 50,000.00 (1-BR, 2-BR, 3-BR)

Allegro and Legato

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Anyone interested in Allegro, I'm willing to give up to 2.5% of my commission, on top of the discount given by Robinsons. BTW, I'm in-house account manager of Robinsons Land since 2008. email if interested at faat88@yahoo.com.

Anyone interested in Allegro, I'm willing to give up to 2.5% of my commission, on top of the discount given by Robinsons. BTW, I'm in-house account manager of Robinsons Land since 2008. email if interested at faat88@yahoo.com.

what floor? which unit? 1br, 2br, studio? and how much? :)

The Allegro at Sonata Place

San Miguel Avenue corner Lourdes Drive, Mandaluyong City

Pre-Selling, Turn-over by August 2016

Available in Flats with Balcony on selected units

Live your symphony in the city while you set your own tempo in your home, located right at the heart of where the action is.

GENERAL DESCRIPTION

- Contemporary Architecture
- 42 Storey building, inclusive of 3-level podium for lobby and retail units, guest parking and amenities
- A mix of retail units, serviced residences and residential units
- All flat units
- One of the two-tower residential condominium development in the second phase to be developed within the Sonata Place complex.

BUILDING FACILITIES / SERVICES

- Main entrance lobby with reception counter at Ground Floor
- CCTV monitoring of selected common areas
- Automatic smoke detector and fire alarm with sprinkler system at all common areas
- Annunciator panel with emergency speaker at all floors
- Standby power generator for common areas and selected outlets in the residential unit
- Individual mail boxes
- Central garbage area
- Building administration & concierge office
- Water reservoir
- Fire exits
- Four (4) elevators (3 passenger elevators and 1 service elevator) with key card access system (Exclusive for the residences only)
PARKING
- Appurtenant parking slot(s) for 2-bedroom units, 3-bedroom units and penthouse units
- 4 Level basement parking for residents of the two towers
- Podium floor parking for retail and serviced residences guests

TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL FEATURES

- Provision for: Individual electric line, Cable TV line, Telephone line and Hot water supply line (excluding water heater) for toilet and kitchen
- Ventilation for kitchen and toilets
- Automatic smoke detectors and fire alarm with sprinkler system in all units
- Utility Rooms for all units in Zone 2 and selected units in Zone 1
- Powder room for select units in Zone 1
- Space provision for washer/dryer for all units
- Entrance panel door with viewer

UNIT FINISHES

Floor

- Homogeneous tiles flooring at Living, Dining and Kitchen
- Homogeneous tiles flooring at Toilet & Bath and Utility Room
- Engineer wood flooring at Bedroom areas

Wall
- Plastered painted finish for interior walls
- Homogeneous tiles for walls of Toilet & Bath

Ceiling

- Painted plain cement finish at Living, Dining, Kitchen and Bedrooms
- Painted gypsum board at Toilet & Bath


OTHER DELIVERABLES

All units

- Wardrobe closets for all units
- Modular base and overhead kitchen cabinets and drawers
- Solid surface kitchen countertop
- Stainless steel kitchen sink with swivel faucet
- European-brand kitchen and toilets fixtures
- Walk-in closet for select units
- Water Filtration system for the Kitchen
- Cook top with range hood for all units: 1BR – 2 Burner; All other units 4 Burner
- Shower glass partitions for all toilets except in utility toilets
- Split-type air conditioners for all units

Penthouse Units

- Personal safety box
- Bath tub and separate shower area with enclosure
- His and Hers lavatory for Master’s Bedroom toilet

Experience The Allegro, the latest exciting addition to the bustling Ortigas Center, the metro's mall capital.

The Allegro is located in the Sonata Place, an exclusive residential community at the corner of Lourdes Street and San Miguel Avenue in Ortigas Center.

Take every opportunity to enjoy life in the security of a gated community while comfortably having evrything in the vibrant city within your reach.

The community is a short walk away from the metro's top shopping destinations like the Shangri-la Plaza Mall, SM Megamall, and Robinsons Galleria and just minutes away from the Medical City, the EDSA Shangri-la hotel, schools like St. Paul College, University of Asia and the Pacific, and Lourdes School. Coming home to the Sonata Place is also made conveniently by its proximity t major roads like EDSA, Shaw Boulevard and C5.

Aside from residential condominium units, The Allegro shall also house retail and dining components and serviced residences, making the Sonata Place truly a grand masterpiece worth waiting for.

Indulge in an exclusive lifestyle that offers more than just the ordinary.

Amenities exclusive to the residents:

Wifi-enabled reading lounge media room
Private Theater and videoke
Recreational/game room
Adults Swimming Pool
Shower and Changing area
Function Room
Massage Room
Children's Facilities
Kiddie Pool
Playroom
Sky Bar

Amenities shared with the serviced residences guests:

Wellness and Fitness Center

Spa Lounge, Jacuzzi and Sauna
Gym


INVESTMENT PRICE

1 BR Php P 5 - 6.3M or $117k- 146k For as LOW as P25k or $588 /month
2 BR Php P 14-14.7M or $325k -341k For as LOW as P 32k or $757/month
3 BR Php P18 -21M or $ 418k or 488k - For as LOW as P60k or $1,411 /month

Sample Quotations


40/60 (No DP) 1-BR (42 sqm.) 2-BR (114 sqm.) 3-BR (149 sqm.)

TCP 5,028,350.00 13,867,261.00 18,278,005.00
Less: Rebate 50,000.00 75,000.00 100,000.00
NET TCP 4,978,350.00 13,792,261.00 18,178,005.00
Reservation Fee 50,000.00 50,000.00 50,000.00
40% DP less RF 1,941,340.00 5,466,904.40 7,221,202.00
MA for 60 months 32,355.67 91,115.07 120,353.37
60% Retention 2,987,010.00 8,275,356.60 10,906,803.00
*If With 20% DP 16,731.05 46,814.95 61,150.89
(Estimated MA for 57 months)

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Kindly see below photo's of The Allegro at Sonata Place condo project for your reference:

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Please watch the Audio-Video Presentation of The Allegro at Sonata Place:

The Allegro at Sonata Place AVP (http://youtu.be/IBizpsOgVgc)

I think there is thread for Sonata already..so this should be lock.:ohno:

From what i heard, due to the increasing number sales of Allegro, RLC is thinking of increasing price per SQM for every 10 or 20 units sold..:lol::lol:

they should think this fully before making the move..I hope I'm wrong

To Bevepi,

Sir, I think there's a different thread pertaining to Sonata development. The Allegro is a new development within Sonata Complex so I think it's time for all the members to see the latest update on what will be the over-all project development for Sonata.

Besides, Tower 1 and 2 is already constructed and I guess having a new thread like The Allegro would not affect the Sonata thread.:)

Thanks to the Moderator for posting my Thread. God Bless!

To Bevepi,

Sir, I think there's a different thread pertaining to Sonata development. The Allegro is a new development within Sonata Complex so I think it's time for all the members to see the latest update on what will be the over-all project development for Sonata.

Besides, Tower 1 and 2 is already constructed and I guess having a new thread like The Allegro would not affect the Sonata thread.:)

Thanks to the Moderator for posting my Thread. God Bless!

To Mods and Admin,

Lets just merge the thread of Allegro and the future Legato to the Sonata thread so it will not have a double thread in one project.

You may post at Sonata thread.

Okay Sir Bengene. I'll just post the update of the 2 projects on Sonata Thread.

God bless.

imho the allegro deserves its own thread in the same manner that the different projects of MW at forbestown got their respective threads. merging these two projects may create confusion on future posts. anyway, let's leave it to the mods...

ang sonat ba ay matatakpan ng bagong project na 42-story building?

hindi sha matatakpan, pero masasamahan, Sonata 3 and 4 shall be known as Allegro and Legato. :D

Allegro and Legato

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ang ganda nito kasi lapit lang sa office....kaso di ko afford.....

To All Followers of The Allegro at Sonata Place project, we had a price appreciation last August 10, 2011. The 1 br unit with an area of 42.55 sqm priced before at Php 4.9M is now Php 5.1M while the 2 BR unit with an area of 114 sqm at Php 13.4M is now Php 14.1M and the 3 br unit with an area of 149 sqm at Php 18M is now Php 18.5M

As per Robinsons Land Corporation Management, every 10th unit sold at The Allegro, the investment price will appreciate. We are still waiting for the memo when is the duration of the said announcement.

The project's Grand Launching is set to schedule this upcoming quarter. I'll keep you posted and will post the venue and time of the project launching. You can contact me on my mobile number at 0927 982 8698 or 0922 791 8117 if you would like to attend and be our guest to the Grand Launching of The Allegro at Sonata Place.

Thank you for reading. Have a Blessed day to everyone.

Jerwin Siobal
Senior Account Manager
Robinsons Land Corporation
www.thefortrealty.com
www.theallegrocondo.webs.com Bold move by RLC, its either they're confident or just crazy. Let's see how they make out on the planned price jump per 10 units sale. Please keep us posted.

I hope they could keep up with the velocity.

Okay Sir Bengene. I'll just post the update of the 2 projects on Sonata Thread.

God bless.

okay Jerwin goodluck

okay Jerwin goodluck

imho the allegro deserves its own thread in the same manner that the different projects of MW at forbestown got their respective threads. merging these two projects may create confusion on future posts. anyway, let's leave it to the mods...

Okay Sir Bengene. I'll just post the update of the 2 projects on Sonata Thread.

God bless.



Sir Bengene, I think, tama po sila Jerwin and NEZ, though, Allegro is located in the Sonata Place, Allegro is much more different by means of lay out, deliverables and even the services that Allegro may offer to old and new buyers of Allegro Place.
Allegro deserves its own forum/threads like other development at SSC. :):)

any updates?

Wow, considering na medyo pricey ang Allegro, meron pa din kumukuha..... few weeks from now pwede na makita ang model unit.

Yesterday, we celebrate our Grand Launching and pinakita ang moddel unit without interior ( as in finished unit lang ) hindi magsisisi ang mga buyers na kumuha dito sa Allegro. :banana:

where is the showroom?

Our showroom for The Allegro project is located at Robinsons Land's Grand Showroom in Galleria, Ortigas.

Jerwin Siobal
Senior Account Manager
Robinsons Land Corporation
0927- 9828698 / 0922- 7918117
siobal.jerwin@yahoo.com
www.theallegro.net , www.thefortrealty.com

We have a new promo for The Allegro project. We are giving additional Cash Discount on top of the standard Cash Rebates to be deducted on the Investment Price. Promo is until November 21 only. For inquiries, please contact me at 0927 9828698 / 0922 7918117 or send me an email at siobal.jerwin@yahoo.com.

Happy weekend everyone.

Update regarding the units at The Allegro:

The smallest 1 br unit, Unit H which is facing the Amenity/ Pool area is selling fast. As of yesterday's inventory we only have 3 units available for the said unit. For inquiries, kindly inform me thru my mobile number at 0927- 9828698 or you can send an email at siobal.jerwin@yahoo.com

Our model unit for the 1 br with an area of 52.40 sqm is now open for viewing also. Please text me your availability so I can assists you and present to you in full details The Allegro project.

God bless everyone :-)

Update regarding the units at The Allegro:

The smallest 1 br unit, Unit H which is facing the Amenity/ Pool area is selling fast. As of yesterday's inventory we only have 3 units available for the said unit. For inquiries, kindly inform me thru my mobile number at 0927- 9828698 or you can send an email at siobal.jerwin@yahoo.com

Our model unit for the 1 br with an area of 52.40 sqm is now open for viewing also. Please text me your availability so I can assists you and present to you in full details The Allegro project.

God bless everyone :-)

^^^^^^

Jerwin is right. the unit H ( smallest unit ) are the units who sold fast. But they closed again the showroom for the interior design. they just open it last Grand Launch for our buyers who bought that night, for them to see the actual unit finishing.

I'm inviting everyone to visit my personal website at http://www.robinsonsprojects.weebly.com

I'm giving away special discounts from SSC members!!!!

By the way guys, here are the upgrades for the units deliverables at The Allegro for your reference:

1. Under counter Sink; counter extending to water closet for the Powder Room

2. Kitchen: 1 br- 2 burner cooktop; 2 & 3 br- 4 burner cooktop
Solid surface kitchen countertop
Built in water filter

3. Master's T&B: Shower Enclosure
Homogenous tiles for T & B wall and floor

4. Bedroom: Engineered wood for bedroom floor

5. Living/ Dining/ Kitchen: Homogenous tiles

6. Split type A/C

For full details of the presentation, kindly email your inquiries at siobal.jerwin@yahoo.com or you can text me your name, email address and your queries regarding The Allegro at 0927-9828698 or 0922-7918117.

God bless everyone :-)

Good Day Every one!

I would like to advice you all na kapag meron kayo relatives or friend na interested in any of Robinsons Projects, pwede nyo po i-refer sakin and you will have 2.5% commission.

For those who are interested naman to buy, again,in any of Robinsons Project, I will give you special discount of 2.5% on top of Robinsons Discount. the 2.5% special discount is deducctable to my commission.


Thanks!

http://www.robinsonsprojects.weebly.com

Corner unit facing Morning Sun.

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This unit is worth P8million.

One added security feature which I like at The Allegro is the Keycard Access System that gives a secured, worry- free feeling to The Allegro unit owners. I've visited one hotel in Makati na may ganitong feature and I've felt very secured eventhough guest lang ako dun and pinuntahan ko lang yung client ko to present our project in Global City.

Imagine if I have a son, daughter, or me and my wife are living to this kind of building, na may added security feature like this one, I'd be happy and be worry-free na di basta basta makakapasok kung sino sino sa condo premises. Of course, we know how tight the security personnel of RLC on our condo units, even us Account Managers ng RLC we need to undergo security procedure before we can go up on the condo building.

Imagine how safe, secured and happy yung family mo if you're living on this kind of community. Oh! Another security feature also is Gated yung Community both for Sonata and The Allegro as well as The Legato Towers.:)

Not just a KEY CARD access. if your unit is located on the 17th floor, hindi ka pwede makapunta sa ibang floor kasi yung card mo is for 17th floor lang......... sounds nice di bA?

unless you have friend residing on the other floors, yun makakagala ka na sa ibang floors ng building.:lol:

Allegro really deserve to be in a high end market..... :banana::banana::banana:

You got a nicely designed, safe and secure building alright, the problem is mahina ang RLC sa marketing ng projects nila. They are the worst among the developers pagdating sa updating ng construction progress sa website nila, amateurs ang gumagawa ng rendering at scale models, at bihira rin sila magadvertise sa media. I'm not saying na kumuha rin sila ng artista to market their projects because frankly dagdag gastos lang yan na ipapatong sa buyers, but in this present condition na binebentang parang sabon ang mga condos they can not just rely on good reputations and the talents of their workers anymore.

You got a nicely designed, safe and secure building alright, the problem is mahina ang RLC sa marketing ng projects nila. They are the worst among the developers pagdating sa updating ng construction progress sa website nila, amateurs ang gumagawa ng rendering at scale models, at bihira rin sila magadvertise sa media. I'm not saying na kumuha rin sila ng artista to market their projects because frankly dagdag gastos lang yan na ipapatong sa buyers, but in this present condition na binebentang parang sabon ang mga condos they can not just rely on good reputations and the talents of their workers anymore.

Totoo po na mahina yung Marketing Strategy ng RLC, even kami napapansin yun.
Pero wala po kami magagawa dun sa marketing strategy nila. kailangan lang, every agents must think out of the box and wag lang umasa sa company sponsored activities. and tama po kayo, baka kapag mas dumami ang advertisements ng RLC, baka dumagdag lang sa price ng projects.

You got a nicely designed, safe and secure building alright, the problem is mahina ang RLC sa marketing ng projects nila. They are the worst among the developers pagdating sa updating ng construction progress sa website nila, amateurs ang gumagawa ng rendering at scale models, at bihira rin sila magadvertise sa media. I'm not saying na kumuha rin sila ng artista to market their projects because frankly dagdag gastos lang yan na ipapatong sa buyers, but in this present condition na binebentang parang sabon ang mga condos they can not just rely on good reputations and the talents of their workers anymore.

The safest term for this is Conservative..

They are too conservative that it gives an impression na they are lazy and old-school type developer. Real estate marketing today is not the same anymore as they were a decade ago. Now you can cheat on the rendering and make the Ilog Pasig water color "blue" at iyan ang bebenta (geez, a blue river??) . Allegro may use an engineered wood or solid surface countertop/corian, or a Cobonpue furniture at hindi yan papansinin ng mga tao. Who knows about engineered flooring and corian? Only design purists and people with technical background kung ano ang mga yan. Palitan mo ng cheap materials at pgandahin mo ang rendering mas kikita pa yan.

Just lok at this render here.. ang mga cars, roads and buildings are not even scaled with each other...http://images03.olx.com.ph/ui/11/70/20/1313476410_239737020_4-Allegro-Ortigas-Condominium-New-Houses-Apartments-for-Sale.jpg

its just a rendition and nothing to do with the quality of the units.
we are not trying to deceive other people by this rendering. " it's architects rendition anyway."

They are too conservative that it gives an impression na they are lazy and old-school type developer. Real estate marketing today is not the same anymore as they were a decade ago.

True SCUD..Buyers has already evolve in terms of decision making..the more aggressive (In terms of marketing strategy, agents aggressiveness, price, terms) the developer, big chance of getting new clients to buy the property. Maybe dapat clear ang disclaimer. I already posted this note to my other thread.


DISCLAIMER
• No representation is being made herein. The particulars, details, and visuals appearing herein are intended to give a general idea of the project and as such are not to be relied upon as statements of fact. While such particulars and details are based on present plans which have been prepared with utmost care and given in good faith, interested parties are invited to verify their factual correctness, and subsequent changes, if any. The contents herein are subject to change without prior notice and do not constitute a part of an offer or contract. It may be advisable for you to consult an attorney or other knowledgeable professional who is familiar with real estate and development law in the country where this project is situated.

All details appearing herein are subject to change without prior notice.

True SCUD..Buyers has already evolve in terms of decision making..the more aggressive (In terms of marketing strategy, agents aggressiveness, price, terms) the developer, big chance of getting new clients to buy the property. Maybe dapat clear ang disclaimer. I already posted this note to my other thread.


DISCLAIMER
• No representation is being made herein. The particulars, details, and visuals appearing herein are intended to give a general idea of the project and as such are not to be relied upon as statements of fact. While such particulars and details are based on present plans which have been prepared with utmost care and given in good faith, interested parties are invited to verify their factual correctness, and subsequent changes, if any. The contents herein are subject to change without prior notice and do not constitute a part of an offer or contract. It may be advisable for you to consult an attorney or other knowledgeable professional who is familiar with real estate and development law in the country where this project is situated.

All details appearing herein are subject to change without prior notice.

:okay::okay::okay:

A great day to everyone!!! Just an additional information that would help our buyers.

7 BASIC things you should know.

1. HOW DO YOU WANT TO USE IT?

Your own personal paradise. Use it as your primary home. The good thing with condominiums is you can enjoy a wide array of amenities without the trouble of maintaining it yourself. Swimming pools, kid’s play area, jogging path, fitness center and function rooms are just a floor away from your unit. Having a peace of mind is also comes living in a condo for you have your security 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

An income generator. Use your investment as a rental property. Get a bag of help with the property management group and your real estate agent to get tenants for you. Take the driver seat with great returns on your investment.

A legacy. One of the best “pamana” you can leave to your loved ones.

2. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.

Choose from the different hot spots. Get a location where everything is just within your reach. Shopping malls, hospitals, churches, convenience stores, business districts, transportations must be a stone throw away.

Best locations to choose from: The Fort Bonifacio Global City, Ortigas, Pioneer, New Manila Q.C., Makati, Manila Area, Paranaque, Cebu.

3.NOW AND THEN.

Choose from a Pre-selling condo or a Ready For Occupancy.

Pre-selling is the best stage for investing on a condominium since prices are at the introductory phase. Flexible and no downpayment terms are very much available. This means alot of savings and low monthly for you.

If time is not on your side, better yet look for ready for occupancy condominiums. Get the feel of the unit upon seeing the actual turn over. There are still discounts available on this stage. You can also start your cash flow immediately since it is already ready for lease.

4.FINE CUTS.

Choose from a wide variety of units.

Studio unit, 1 bedroom, 2 bedrooms, 3 bedrooms, Penthouse units.

5.BUDGET WISE.

How much do you want to invest monthly? As low as P10k, P15K, P25k, P35K or even more.

Check your funds to see if you can afford to give a downpayment in exchange of additional discounts.

6.BIG SAVINGS.

Well, everyone wants to save right? Go check for discounts and ongoing promos of the month. Ask for special terms like no down payment and for example, a lease to own term for ready for occupancy units.

7.Visit to the Model Unit.

Give yourself time to view the model units, site location and see how your unit can look like. If you are off shore ask for actual pictures.

To know more about the real estate market feel free to contact me.
I am more than willing to assist you.
Thanks.
www.robinsonscondo.webs.com

Happy New Year to Everyone! Here's a quick tip for those who would like to invest on this great year of 2012! It would surely be a help!

Where to invest in? Ready For Occupancy or Pre Selling?
It really depends on the need of the client what his/her priorities are.

Lets start with the benefits of a pre-selling condo unit.
1.A pre-selling condo unit is a lot cheaper at this stage.
2.asy payment schemes and stretched down payment.
3.You can still choose the best locations of the units.
4.Prices tend to be higher when the unit is turned-over to you.


Here are the benefits of buying a ready-for-occupancy condo unit.
1.What you see is what you get.
2.You can estimate costs in real time.
3.You can move in almost immediately.
4.You can offer it for rent to tenants right away.

To know more about the real estate market feel free to contact me.
I am more than willing to assist you.
Thanks.
www.robinsonscondo.webs.com

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Jerwin Siobal
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Robinsons Land Corporation
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Mahal! I want to win the lottery na so I can get one from each of MM's CBD. Eto or OSP will be my bet. Wait, mas mahal pa to sa Shang???

halos nasa 1/3 lang ng alegro ang sonata, ang taas nito, probably mas mataas siya kesa sa tektite

Tama Sun-tex. Im excited to see what the Sky Bar will look like and what floor siya located :) This will be the first time na magkakaroon ng ganitong Amenity/ Feature sa projects ng RLC.

Im not sure kung mas mataas ang Allegro kesa sa Tektite. We'll do some research para ma compare natin.

Thanks and God bless.

Dont waste your time doing reasearch jerwin. A 30-storey residential like Sonata could reach at least a hundred meters in height, so if our resident manghuhula tells you that Allegro is thrice as high as Sonata dont even bother checking it. His crystal ball could have malfunctioned again.

Hi Sir Scud. Meron palang ganun dito. Hehehe. Thanks for the advise. Have a great day and God bless.

kelan groundbreaking?? sold out na ba??

100-105m ang Sonata Halos kasing height nya ung building ng san miguel properties

baka umabot ang allegro ng 150-160m

Dont waste your time doing reasearch jerwin. A 30-storey residential like Sonata could reach at least a hundred meters in height, so if our resident manghuhula tells you that Allegro is thrice as high as Sonata dont even bother checking it. His crystal ball could have malfunctioned again.

kong 100 meters ang sonata siya ay 3/4 halos ng alegro which probably 150 m more or less, ang 3/4 or 75% ng 150 ay 100, tama ka talaga

nagkamali lang or nagkaroon ng misrepresentation na 1/3 instead of 3/4---------------dp

Palpak pa rin! Tumigil ka na lang kaya at nang hindi ka nagmumukhang tanga.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:sino naman ang kahihiyan ko?la pake sa mga taong bitter, masayahin ang pilipino!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

alam mo skyscrapercity po ito

this forum was originally created for skyscraper enthusiasts and not for anyone else. kasama po ito sa vision-mission ng SSC kaya pinag-uusapan po talaga ang height ng mga buildings dito. it just evolved to include all kinds of urban developments.

way back in early 2000's, tumatawag pa mga members dito sa mga contractor at developers just to get the height of the buildings.

ano ba alam ninyo magbenta lang

Tama Sun-tex. Im excited to see what the Sky Bar will look like and what floor siya located :) This will be the first time na magkakaroon ng ganitong Amenity/ Feature sa projects ng RLC.

Im not sure kung mas mataas ang Allegro kesa sa Tektite. We'll do some research para ma compare natin.

Thanks and God bless.

Research?? Your Business dev dept. is one phone call away Jerwin.

Research?? Your Business dev dept. is one phone call away Jerwin.

Hehehe. Next time I'll do that, Sir. Thanks for the advise Sir Gene. Have a great weekend and God Bless.

FYI as per our Business Development Dept. Sky Bar/ Sky Lounge is located at the 43rd Floor of The Allegro Tower. The size of it is around 200 sqm. :)

FYI as per our Business Development Dept. Sky Bar/ Sky Lounge is located at the 43rd Floor of The Allegro Tower. The size of it is around 200 sqm. :)

Jerwin sana tinamong mo na din yung final height ng building...

@jerwin, based sa powerpoint presentation na binigay satin, 43rd floor nakalagay ang penthouse. confusing....
ibig sabihin banito, magkasama ang penthouse and skybar?

Update!!! :)

As per text conversation with our Business Development Dept, The Allegro at Sonata Place has 43 Floors. Above 43rd Floor is the Roof Deck Amenity where the Sky Lounge is located.

Have a great day and God Bless everyone.

FYI as per our Business Development Dept. Sky Bar/ Sky Lounge is located at the 43rd Floor of The Allegro Tower. The size of it is around 200 sqm. :)

@jerwin, based sa powerpoint presentation na binigay satin, 43rd floor nakalagay ang penthouse. confusing....
ibig sabihin banito, magkasama ang penthouse and skybar?

^^^^^^
Buti na yung mailanw bro, sabi din kasi sakin 43 ang penthouse and the next floor is the skybar. :)
edit or delete mo na lang para di magkaroon ng confusion sa mga readers.:)

^^^^^^
Buti na yung mailanw bro, sabi din kasi sakin 43 ang penthouse and the next floor is the skybar. :)
edit or delete mo na lang para di magkaroon ng confusion sa mga readers.:)

Update!!! :) (Posted Yesterday @ 5:53 pm)

As per text conversation with our Business Development Dept, The Allegro at Sonata Place has 43 Floors. Above 43rd Floor is the Roof Deck Amenity where the Sky Lounge is located.

Have a great day and God Bless everyone.

Hi readers!
I would like to share this.
these are the architects rendition of the skybar and the floor description of the Allegro. these 2 slides are part of the powerpoint presentation given to us ( sales force ) last July 30,2011.
Just want to share. :)

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SKY BAR

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Floor description.

Ryan Alluarte
Account Manager
09158136469
robinsonsland08@gmail.com
www.robinsonsprojects.weebly.com

kamusta ba ang sales velocity ng mga RLC projects given that they are less aggressive than other big developers?

kamusta ba ang sales velocity ng mga RLC projects given that they are less aggressive than other big developers?

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As of today, ok naman po ang sales velocity,ayus pa din po ang sonata, sa Trion ok din po lalo na sa Magnolia Residences and Sapphire Tower. Sa Allegro, tama lang, di sya mabilis pero din naman slow moving, siguro dahil na din sa di pa masyadong na-tap yung market ng High end projects.

Kulang sa ads, in my opinion...... though competitive naman po ang projects and price.

sana man lang update nila ang websites. Marketing should be teid in with the strong potential of advertising via Cebu Pacific as the country's number 1 carrier. O meron nang ganito? I think konting synergy pa siguro. Millions of balikbayans and tourist, and economically mobile group take Cebu Pac, pero most havent heard of these superb RLC projects. It's almost like a captive market. Bakit ba ang daming agents dito sa forum - kasi captive market. If RLC helps their agents a bit by going beyond the usual marketing tools, baka we wont see them here as often. Why havent they tapped into this strategic advantage? Tingnan mo ang SM, pati sa bus meron.

sana man lang update nila ang websites. Marketing should be teid in with the strong potential of advertising via Cebu Pacific as the country's number 1 carrier. O meron nang ganito? I think konting synergy pa siguro. Millions of balikbayans and tourist, and economically mobile group take Cebu Pac, pero most havent heard of these superb RLC projects. It's almost like a captive market. Bakit ba ang daming agents dito sa forum - kasi captive market. If RLC helps their agents a bit by going beyond the usual marketing tools, baka we wont see them here as often. Why havent they tapped into this strategic advantage? Tingnan mo ang SM, pati sa bus meron.

^^^^^^
Iba naman po kasi market ng SM compare sa RLC.
Poor marketing strategy, tagal na pong issue yan sa loob, pero wala naman po kami magagawa, even kami di namin alam kung bakit ganun ang nagyayari.

Pasensya na po kung madalas kami agent dito, pero imagine na lang po kung walang agent dito sa forum.

We are here not only to sell, we are also here because we want to learn some new things, katulad na lang po ng mga terminology ni Sir SCUD, dami ako natutunan, every now and then. syempre part na din po ng reason kung bakit kami nandito is to give updates, construction, price increase and even issues sa loob regarding the projects. :)

Again and again..I think the right word is conservative...

kamusta ba ang sales velocity ng mga RLC projects given that they are less aggressive than other big developers?

Roy,

I guess every developer has it's own "diskarte"..I know because I've been there as an agent & as a manager..so somehow I know how they move. And when I transferred with SMDC I saw how they also move..

Maybe its just a matter of wanting to be number 1.

Again, in fairness with RLC, they have a very marketable project with competitive price. This is just an opinion ha, I think something is lacking Lang..maybe the agents can answer that.

Just an observation lang..

Roy,

I guess every developer has it's own "diskarte"..I know because I've been there as an agent & as a manager..so somehow I know how they move. And when I transferred with SMDC I saw how they also move..

Maybe its just a matter of wanting to be number 1.

Again, in fairness with RLC, they have a very marketable project with competitive price. This is just an opinion ha, I think something is lacking Lang..maybe the agents can answer that.

Just an observation lang..

^^^^

Thanks bevepi!
I think if we are going to listen with somebody, pipiliin ko na si sir gene, kasi galing na sya sa RLC and at the moment nasa iba na sya, so sakanya mismo natin maririnig kung ano ang pagkaka-iba. that is according to his opinion and experiences.

Conservative nga..... bakit ang kulit ko...:bash: :rofl:

sana man lang update nila ang websites. Marketing should be teid in with the strong potential of advertising via Cebu Pacific as the country's number 1 carrier. O meron nang ganito? I think konting synergy pa siguro. Millions of balikbayans and tourist, and economically mobile group take Cebu Pac, pero most havent heard of these superb RLC projects. It's almost like a captive market. Bakit ba ang daming agents dito sa forum - kasi captive market. If RLC helps their agents a bit by going beyond the usual marketing tools, baka we wont see them here as often. Why havent they tapped into this strategic advantage? Tingnan mo ang SM, pati sa bus meron.


I agree with you that RLC's marketing strategy is way out of the norm, but sometimes we have to give them credit for being different than what we are seeing now. That way makikita mo kung sino talaga ang mga seryosong buyers/investors at mahina ang chance na mahaluan ng mga impulsive buyers na napabili lang dahil popular at madalas makita sa advertisements.

We all know na hindi masyadong mahigpit ang Pilipinas pagdating sa credit checks ng mga potential buyers, kung may pambayad sa reservation fee at may monthly payment na kaya nilang bayaran for 10,000 pesos for the first two years aprubado agad yan. But how about the 3rd year? With interest rate of 10% and a possible 20 Thousand + M.A, saan nila kukunin yan? They will speculate na kaya nilang paupahan ang unit and their investments will be self-liquidating. Kapag hindi nangyari yan ibebenta nila at loss or may risk ng foreclosure ng bangko at ibenta ng short sale. Then apektado ka ngayon at ang investment mo kung isa kang kapitbahay.

See, this is one of the factors in choosing your investment, pipiliin mo rin ang market ang financial status ng mga posibleng bumili. Savvy investors and people with background in engineering and construction know kung sinong mga developers sa Pilipinas ang mapagkakatiwalaan, mas safe pa kung sa kanila ka sumabay. And if you know very little about the developer's reputation then look at the density, look at the sales velocity, the way they market their projects, and the speed of construction. Other developers don't respect the meaning of " TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE " , wala rin silang pakialam kung baguhin nila kung ano ang nakalagay sa marketing materials. So Ano ang panghahawakan natin ngayon? Best bet is choose the developer with good reputation and with less marketing gimmick

I get your point SCUD. I do know a couple of individuals who have that mindset - self liquidating investment daw na upon turnover, the rent will pay for the mortgage.

Rye, no offense meant, it was just an example and its not like I'm driving you guys away. I just think that you need a little help from RLC.

I get your point SCUD. I do know a couple of individuals who have that mindset - self liquidating investment daw na upon turnover, the rent will pay for the mortgage.

Rye, no offense meant, it was just an example and its not like I'm driving you guys away. I just think that you need a little help from RLC.

^^^^^^
Its ok todjikd. I'm always open sa opinions ng lahat. in that way I know kung saan ako dapat mag-aral. and I don't take it as negative, besides, di ko po ginagamit sa mga client ko ang salitang "SELF LIQUIDATING" or "RETURN OF INVESTMENT" coz i know sa dami ng supply ng residential building ngayon, 3 years from now, baka mahirapan na rin sila sa "self liquidating" na yan.

I always told to my client na wag silang mag-focus sa sinasabi ng ibang agent na mapaparentahan nyo yan at mababawi nyo lahat ng binayad nyo "R.O.I." instead, sinasabi ko sa kanila na kapag andito sila sa Pilipinas, rather than renting expensive hotel, at least meron silang ma-uuwian, then kapag meron silang relative or friends, pwede nila pa-upahan, pero hina-highlights ko ang pagkakaroon ng sariling property by the end of time.

Sa mga ganitong sitwasyon, na parang kabuteng nagsulputan ang mga condo, always choose the best location.......

Thank you guys for your opinions. please feel free whatever your opinion is.

My first post... :)

Any future neighbours here???

May kamahalan ang Allegro pero dream kasi ni misis ang location na ito...

^ what about it's location? btw, congrats on purchase.

^ malapit sa lahat... Work, church, malls... Etc. Nag bigay ako ng options kay misis na ibang condo na malapit rin sa lugar like Flair, SMDC condo sa Pioneer pero eto lang na approved nya. Dream nya raw yung lugar nung single pa sya at nag wo-work pa sa San Miguel Corp. Kaya ayun kahit nga may kamahalan nag down na kami to make my wife happy. Pasok naman sa budget kaya okay lang. Hindi kami titira sa unit at wala ring balak pa rentahan, bakasyunan lang ng family namin.

^ malapit sa lahat... Work, church, malls... Etc. Nag bigay ako ng options kay misis na ibang condo na malapit rin sa lugar like Flair, SMDC condo sa Pioneer pero eto lang na approved nya. Dream nya raw yung lugar nung single pa sya at nag wo-work pa sa San Miguel Corp. Kaya ayun kahit nga may kamahalan nag down na kami to make my wife happy. Pasok naman sa budget kaya okay lang. Hindi kami titira sa unit at wala ring balak pa rentahan, bakasyunan lang ng family namin.

^^^^^^
Congrats Sir!

Salamat! Sana maging maayos lahat ng development ng Allegro katulad ng Sonata.

Salamat! Sana maging maayos lahat ng development ng Allegro katulad ng Sonata.

^^^^^^
Im sure Sir na magiging maayos po ang lahat. just like Sonata. nahgitan pa po ang expectation ng mga buyers namin. even my client, natuwa sa outcome ng development.:)

About 20% more than Sonata in terms of price? Will the ROI be 20% more?

About 20% more than Sonata in terms of price? Will the ROI be 20% more?

can't be determine by now. there's a few high end projects in the market. In times like this that lots of low coast condos arising, buyers should be wise in buying, they need not to be focus how affordable the monthly amortization but focus on the location and the package, just like wise buyers do.

agree rye. tamang tama ka.

can't be determine by now. there's a few high end projects in the market. In times like this that lots of low coast condos arising, buyers should be wise in buying, they need not to be focus how affordable the monthly amortization but focus on the location and the package, just like wise buyers do.

Thanks for your advice. But I noticed prices to be going up but rentals have not been going up proportionately. Hope you can share what is your take on this project. Will the rental here be 20% higher than Sonata?

I can only cite anecdotal evidence. a friend who bought a condo unit in the fort initially wanted it for investment. he posted it unfurnished. no takers. he furnished it and designed it a bit, increased the price a bit, no takers. he lowered the rent to "unfurnished price level." still no takers. short term wasn't an option so he decided to move in since it is in one of the nicer location.

But this is in ortigas, so it might be the same or entirely different.

Buyers should really study their investments and not to over stretched their finances, or else, their dream condo would become a liability...

Buyers should really study their investments and not to over stretched their finances, or else, their dream condo would become a liability...

you can easily determine who's the wise buyers....
they are not buying because of the popularity or who's the endorser of the product and cannot be easily attracted with different kind of marketing gimmicks. :)

Peace to all!

Thanks for your advice. But I noticed prices to be going up but rentals have not been going up proportionately. Hope you can share what is your take on this project. Will the rental here be 20% higher than Sonata?


Its case to case basis sir, for example, i'm living in one of the Robinsons Project but it's not as nice as Sonata, my client has a 2 bedroom unit and she chose to hire a interior decorator and bought a nice furniture, even the standard rate for the 2 bedroom is about 30,ooo (max) in pesos, she was able to rent her unit for 45,ooo pesos. ( excluding dues ).
Just like the ordinary items in store, if you will not work for its package, don't expect that the market will response to your item.

(nice package = nice price)

the Fort property that my friend got was also from RLC. I think ortigas is different from the fort in a sense that the former is a more mature market. more commercial space, corporate centers and has more pedestrians. Like what my friend said, he will try to wait it out as he thinks that the Fort is going to that direction. I sort of agree only if the developers stop being lazy and start focusing on spaces alloted to corporate buildings.

Thanks for all the advice. But I have already taken the plunge.

wow congrats!!!

Thanks for all the advice. But I have already taken the plunge.

Congrats kaki! See you in 2016/2017... :)

wow congrats!!!

Thanks. I hope it will turn out to be a good investment.

Congrats kaki! See you in 2016/2017... :)

Thanks. Hope to see you too. But I am not planning to move there.

Thanks. Hope to see you too. But I am not planning to move there.

Then maybe you could just visit me here in my Yishun flat... Ha ha.. Just kiding...

Good luck to your investment!

Thanks for all the advice. But I have already taken the plunge.

Congrats!:cheers:

Congrats!:cheers:

Thanks. Honestly, I took the plunge in haste as I do not want to miss out on a good unit as I did for Sonata.

Thanks. Honestly, I took the plunge in haste as I do not want to miss out on a good unit as I did for Sonata.

I think, the outcome of Sonata helps to make you decide at Allegro.

I think, the outcome of Sonata helps to make you decide at Allegro.

Yes, it did. Another important consideration was the developer.

^ Care to share the payment terms?

^ Care to share the payment terms?

kindly P.M. your email add. so i will be able to send the sample payment terms, including the discount I'm offering. :) (2% net of taxes )

Yes, it did. Another important consideration was the developer.

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Congrats for the purchase! we will do our very best to satisfy our buyers! in case you need something,( if your agent is out of reach) please feel free to email me anytime.:)

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Congrats for the purchase! we will do our very best to satisfy our buyers! in case you need something,( if your agent is out of reach) please feel free to email me anytime.:)

Thanks for the offer. The thing I am not comfortable with is that agents do move about quite alot. Is it true that once they moved they can be availed on information concerning client's account?

Thanks for the offer. The thing I am not comfortable with is that agents do move about quite alot. Is it true that once they moved they can be availed on information concerning client's account?

Yes it's true, if your agent still concern with you after they moved. :)

Yes it's true, if your agent still concern with you after they moved. :)

My agent at SM is still taking care of me even though he had moved to DMCI. But I wonder if most agents are like him.

My agent at SM is still taking care of me even though he had moved to DMCI. But I wonder if most agents are like him.


Of course his taking care of you... You bought so many units from him. Property agents are always under pressure to sell. They need to reach their monthly quota in order to keep their job. Maybe he thinks you will buy some more units at his new post.

My agent at SM is still taking care of me even though he had moved to DMCI. But I wonder if most agents are like him.

Not all huanggua. As an agent, I've encountered some clients who had problems with their property consultants. Sad but true. You're very lucky to have an agent like yours right now. :)

My agent at SM is still taking care of me even though he had moved to DMCI. But I wonder if most agents are like him.

Not all huanggua. As an agent, I've encountered some clients who had problems with their property consultants. Sad but true. You're very lucky to have an agent like yours right now. :)

I agree with you Jerwin! not all salesperson is like your agent huannua. you are lucky that you found a good agent like Jerwin and me. :)

It's sad, but it's also the reason why I'am here. I'm aware that some of the buyers find it hard to contact their agent.that's why i'm offering my service in many simple ways.

I agree with you Jerwin! not all salesperson is like your agent huannua. you are lucky that you found a good agent like Jerwin and me. :)

It's sad, but it's also the reason why I'am here. I'm aware that some of the buyers find it hard to contact their agent.that's why i'm offering my service in many simple ways.

Apart from servicing their client the agent must also be prepared to accept that their clients may buy from other developers and they gain the trust of their client if you give their honest unbiased opinion on projects of other developers.

My agent at SM is still taking care of me even though he had moved to DMCI. But I wonder if most agents are like him.

Our Agent at SMDC also looks after us. As a result we have since referred 2 clients to our agents who have since bought 1 br unit each at light residences.:cheers:

Our Agent at SMDC also looks after us. As a result we have since referred 2 clients to our agents who have since bought 1 br unit each at light residences.:cheers:

Very good. You are your friends should take some units here. This I s an awesome project. My estimation is that it will emerge as possibly the best in Ortigas.

Apart from servicing their client the agent must also be prepared to accept that their clients may buy from other developers and they gain the trust of their client if you give their honest unbiased opinion on projects of other developers.

I agree. I believe all condominium projects/ developments are all beautiful. It is really on the client's eyes whether a condo project is a good development for them. It depends actually on what the client's need for the condo as their 2nd home or as an investment.

I just want to share my personal experience regarding this topic. I have this client who asked a favor to check out a condo development in Ortigas near Sonata. I've visited personally the project for him and told the agent on the other developer that I have a client who's interested on their project. He gave me the details and forwarded it to my client. He bought the unit on the said development and he's very happy about it. He thanked me and give another referral who bought a 2 br unit at sonata. I'm very happy that I've helped him get his another dream condo and helped also a colleague from the other developer. My client is planning to buy another unit on our future developments once he settled his balance on Sonata. :)

I always give my clients the freedom to choose which is best for their investment needs. That's why we're here to guide them on choosing their dream home based on their preferences not ours. It's a great fullfillment if you helped someone find what they want for themselves and their love ones. :)

Have a great day everyone. God Bless.

everything has beauty but not everyone sees it. it's in our clients choice if they buy in other developer. it's their discretion. all we can do ( speaking to my fellow agent ) is to guide and educate them as possible as it can be. no unbiased details and opinions. and don't forget the after sales service. :)

everything has beauty but not everyone sees it. it's in our clients choice if they buy in other developer. it's their discretion. all we can do ( speaking to my fellow agent ) is to guide and educate them as possible as it can be. no unbiased details and opinions. and don't forget the after sales service. :)

After sales service is very important. Every dog has his day.

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this will seal the deal for RLC's luxuria line. really nice, understated and balanced concrete and glass. form and function nga talaga.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzYrk3f7FGA">YouTube Link</a>

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beautiful...

Is it possible to change agent midway?

I agree. I believe all condominium projects/ developments are all beautiful. It is really on the client's eyes whether a condo project is a good development for them. It depends actually on what the client's need for the condo as their 2nd home or as an investment.

I just want to share my personal experience regarding this topic. I have this client who asked a favor to check out a condo development in Ortigas near Sonata. I've visited personally the project for him and told the agent on the other developer that I have a client who's interested on their project. He gave me the details and forwarded it to my client. He bought the unit on the said development and he's very happy about it. He thanked me and give another referral who bought a 2 br unit at sonata. I'm very happy that I've helped him get his another dream condo and helped also a colleague from the other developer. My client is planning to buy another unit on our future developments once he settled his balance on Sonata. :)

I always give my clients the freedom to choose which is best for their investment needs. That's why we're here to guide them on choosing their dream home based on their preferences not ours. It's a great fullfillment if you helped someone find what they want for themselves and their love ones. :)

Have a great day everyone. God Bless.

Is it possible to change agent midway?

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There's a rule in our office that you cannot change your agent,specially if your agent is still connected with Robinsons Land.
But the good thing is, we can provide you assistance even if I'm/we are not your agent.

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There's a rule in our office that you cannot change your agent,specially if your agent is still connected with Robinsons Land.
But the good thing is, we can provide you assistance even if I'm/we are not your agent.

What if I threaten to cancel the purchase if they do not agree to the change?

I can forfeit all my payments and pay all over again.

I can forfeit all my payments and pay all over again.

Why do you want to change agents anyway?

I did. I emailed my request/problems with the sales director. But then that was different company/developer. Usually they dont do that coz it gets complicated with their commission. Yes, its all about them not the buyers.

What if I threaten to cancel the purchase if they do not agree to the change?

Threaten? If you sign an agreement, they will not care. Your reservation fee will be forfeited. It will be your loss not the developer nor the agent. All Reservation Agreement regardless who the developer has no buyers protection.
In my case the management agreed to my request. Although they have to abide with their company policies and procedures. I have no problem with my new agent so far.

Threaten? If you sign an agreement, they will not care. Your reservation fee will be forfeited. It will be your loss not the developer nor the agent. All Reservation Agreement regardless who the developer has no buyers protection.
In my case the management agreed to my request. Although they have to abide with their company policies and procedures. I have no problem with my new agent so far.

I am prepared to lose the reservation fee and all that I have paid.

Why do you want to change agents anyway?

I lost out on getting a good unit in Sonata becos he was trying to sell me Sienna Park when Sonata was a much better project. I finally managed to get a decent unit at Sonata when some buyer release his unit back to RLC. When I fell into arrears and paid up together with the penalty he didn't tell me I could request for a waiver. When I went to SM to settle the arrears my agent at SM told me to request for a waiver of the penalty. He even gave me the assurance that it will be waived.

I though Sienna Park is under DMCI? The project I think is more for locals for residential than investment. I did consider getting that for my gf but I can't imagine myself staying there next time.

I lost out on getting a good unit in Sonata becos he was trying to sell me Sienna Park when Sonata was a much better project. I finally managed to get a decent unit at Sonata when some buyer release his unit back to RLC. When I fell into arrears and paid up together with the penalty he didn't tell me I could request for a waiver. When I went to SM to settle the arrears my agent at SM told me to request for a waiver of the penalty. He even gave me the assurance that it will be waived.

Is it possible to change agent midway?



I agree with Rye08. Although, we have this rule that we can hold our client's account for six (6) months period that's why it's very critical on our side and we're doing our best to give the best service to our clients.

I'm glad that I've found a good Sales Manager, whose name is Mr. Reinald Perez who trained us to be good at customer service. Best of it, we became friends with our clients and we manage to extend our relationship with them and their families for a long period of time even we have turned over their investment(s).

Maybe you could talk with your Account Manager so they can address your concerns to the higher management. I hope you'll understand that we have our flaws also and sometimes we can't address it immediately, since we're seeking approval also on the higher management for certain request or maybe we're not aware of it since it's our first time to encounter that particular situation.

Thank you in advance for your understanding. Have a great weekend ahead. God Bless.

I lost out on getting a good unit in Sonata becos he was trying to sell me Sienna Park when Sonata was a much better project. I finally managed to get a decent unit at Sonata when some buyer release his unit back to RLC. When I fell into arrears and paid up together with the penalty he didn't tell me I could request for a waiver. When I went to SM to settle the arrears my agent at SM told me to request for a waiver of the penalty. He even gave me the assurance that it will be waived.

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In my case, the penalty can be waived but not 100%.
Me and my client was able to waived almost 70% on the total amount of the penalty. but then again, it's depend in case to case basis.

I lost out on getting a good unit in Sonata becos he was trying to sell me Sienna Park when Sonata was a much better project. I finally managed to get a decent unit at Sonata when some buyer release his unit back to RLC. When I fell into arrears and paid up together with the penalty he didn't tell me I could request for a waiver. When I went to SM to settle the arrears my agent at SM told me to request for a waiver of the penalty. He even gave me the assurance that it will be waived.

Now i understand. I hope you can work things out well.

I did. I emailed my request/problems with the sales director. But then that was different company/developer. Usually they dont do that coz it gets complicated with their commission. Yes, its all about them not the buyers.

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It's depend on the agent's/director's mind thinking. and It's also what kind of problem/request you're trying to seek for approval.

It's not about the commission.

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In my case, the penalty can be waived but not 100%.
Me and my client was able to waived almost 70% on the total amount of the penalty. but then again, it's depend in case to case basis.

I think RLC has been kind to me. They waived off completely. But what I didn't like was them telling me pay up for all units the next day when what was outstanding were just the parking slots. Subsequently they extended it to the end of the month. But I wasn't happy already and I paid up everything the next day.

Hows the taking up rate of this project? When I took a unit here I realized all the small units of 5 million or so were taken but those exceeding 6 million were still available. Even those on the auspicious 28th floor.

Hows the taking up rate of this project? When I took a unit here I realized all the small units of 5 million or so were taken but those exceeding 6 million were still available. Even those on the auspicious 28th floor.

all of the 1 bedroom units are sold except to those units located at the ground floor or garden units. while we still have available for 2 and 3 bedroom units but it's also limited.

all of the 1 bedroom units are sold except to those units located at the ground floor or garden units. while we still have available for 2 and 3 bedroom units but it's also limited.

Then I was lucky to be able to get a good unit on the 28th floor when I was at RLC office early this month. The smaller units were below 6 million. I took mine at above 6 million and I thought then 6 million was the resistant level. But it seems the market had breached that. Very good. On account of what RLC had done to Sonata I believe this project will turn out better and even surpass our expectations.