just a quick diagram on some talls in NEQ & Darwin with comparisons to tallest in tassie. no real reason just that about same size.
didnt know weather to put it in Townsville thread or Toowoomba thread/. please let me know where i can lump it.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/sunshinecoastnew.jpg

That's cool. I reckon you should put it in Both Townsville and Toowoomba threads.

Interesting. I had a look at SSP and Emporis and there are a few anomalies to do with this.

SSP Diagram of Townsville, Cairns, Hobart and Toowoomba (http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?7766920)

Holiday Inn - 22 storeys?? - its a bit hard to tell exactly how many floors the podium is but the 20s on Emporis seems right to me.

SSP has Hobart Place as a 16s/63.4m building in Hobart but its not on Emporis. Whats the go there.

Cottesloe - read your posts in Toowoomba thread - is 50m a educated guess?

Maybe you could put this thread in Skyscrapers & Skylines - it does realate to 3 states?

Also Cul do you know the height of the Taroona Shot Tower. Searching the web SSP says 66m, some sites say 58m but most say 48m.

http://www.discovertasmania.com.au/images/product/100x100/1045e.jpg

Going by the elevators at the Holiday Inn, the top floor where the pool is, is number 20.

If the pool ie the roof was 20, then that would mean it was only 18 storeys, because the roof isn't a storey and the first storey would be "ground" (2nd storey, 1st floor etc). The tower is 17 storeys so that would make the podium only 1 storey??

Wezza do you need a key card to operate the lift?

I dont think Hobart Place exists. It was submited ages ago under my name... but could not work out from who. Trying to remove it now

No, the lifts can be operated by anybody, but you do need a card to get out onto the pool deck once you get out of the lift.

any data on emporis was put there by me after years of research. lol
i currently take care of 38 Australian cities/towns. update ect.
I put together most of Hobarts info.its pretty hard from up here in Sydney but i have got contacts in most town planning councils around Aus.
As i keep saying, ssp is pretty bad. ive had nothing to do with heights or data for that so stay clear of it. seriously.
just on questions.
I contacted of Holiday Inn manager last year and was told 22 storeys.
The tallest building in Hobarts CBD is AMP at 58m. Hobart Place?wtf
The Cottelsoe Crest bldg is 49m high to pointy parapet. and 45m to roof. A city planner indicated these figures when i contacted here recently.
Ive studied the Taroona Shot tower in depth and keep in contact with museum owner at its base, after i sent her some diagrams for schoolies. I told them years ago there official height of 48m was wrong even though there own brochure indicated this.also history books have confsuing heights of 45m, 48m and 60m and even 66m.
So got the bloody thing surveyed!! The current height without 1.3m weather ball is 58.7m.!!So it was exactly 60m or 196ft up until 1920's.
It was Australia's tallest structure from 1870-74, it was surpassed by the 64m spire of melbournes Scots Church.
cheers

ive added the Taroona Shot for comparison.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/sunshinecoastnew.jpg

Nice work Cul :)

Yeah, Hobart Place doesn't exist, it doesn't look like any building down here, it might be in some other city (I think Canberra has lots of streets named after other Australian cities). Glad I found you Joe, I tried to contact you a couple of times (via SSP forums and so on!)

Culwulla's diagrams are cool. Sorry Chuq , have been between jobs and never had the time for checking emails. All fixed now

I knew SSP was inaccurate but listing buildings that don't even exist - geez!

Hobart is definetely lacking in the photo department on Emporis. Chuq or Cullwulla - is AMP one of these buildings? (Cul's pic of AMP in Hobarts tallest thread is gone. )

http://www.worldcityphotos.org/Australia/AUS-Hobart-webshotslabrcajun2.jpg

A nice aerial of Hobart
http://www.bluedtravel.com/bdte/images/aub20_0.jpg

I contacted of Holiday Inn manager last year and was told 22 storeys.


Well there you go but I am still struggling to make it 22 storeys.

Here's my diagram of it

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Oriolus/HolInnFin.bmp

There are 17 storeys in the main tower - thats clear. Could there be 4 storeys in the base? Or maybe the cone is counting as a storey?? (note my diagram is not of the side shown in the picture below)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Oriolus/HolidayInnPodium.jpg

With the lift only going to 20 (being the roof) maybe the public lift does not go to some services floors, hence they are left out?

If the pool ie the roof was 20, then that would mean it was only 18 storeys, because the roof isn't a storey and the first storey would be "ground" (2nd storey, 1st floor etc). The tower is 17 storeys so that would make the podium only 1 storey??


Correction - 1st storey is G, 2nd storey is 1, 3rd storey is 2 etc ....21st storey is 20 which is the roof therefore lift says building actually is 20 storeys. Don't know what I was thinking.

great oriolus! thanks for pic of base. ive never seen one before.this is the way i see it.
podium-2 floors
plant-2 floors (under tower)
tower units-17 floors
top roof/plant (green ring)-1 floor
total-22
i chatted to manager last year and he said leve22 is in cone.its plantroom/LMR ect.
also fyi, the dia of tower is 22m. manager quoted this
your cone looks a little short in diagram. its 16m above parapet, thus roof is 60m.
you can see in your fab pic you took>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Oriolus/HolidayInn.jpg

as for AMP in Hobart. yes its the streamlined one on the far right of first pic!
cheers

I found an article yesterday - it was the report that appeared in the Townsville Bulletin when the plans for the SGIO Building, as it was, were first announced (2/6/73).

The article says there were to be 23 floors (4 plant, 19 occupied) and also that the height was to be 89.9m. 3 of these plant floors were to be in the cone. Here's the main points of the article - a full version (3 jpegs is available on request). I should mention that before the building was finially completed it was refered to as 14 storeys and 24 storeys at different times in the Townsville Bulletin so some of the details may have changed eg height for a start

Here's the render that went with it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Oriolus/HolidayInnRender.jpg

Details of planned development by the purchaser, the State Government Insurance Office, of the recently demolished Central Hotel and Theatre Royal Buildings, have been disclosed.

The building will have a total of 19 usable floors, consisting of a ground floor housing commercial offices, and a drive in bottle shop in connection with a tavern on the first floor, the remainder of which will be let for office space. The ground and first floors will cover the whole of the site

From the third floor level, the building will be reduced to a circular tower 90 feet in diameter, which it is anticipated will accommodate seven floors which will be available for leasing for office space.

Nine floors above these seven office floors will be utilised as motel accommodation, eight of the floors having fully equipped motel units on each floor, the other being divided into five apartment units and a VIP suite.

…

The next upper floor, it is anticipated, will house a restaurant which will be fully equipped to provide dining service not only to motel occupants but also to members of the general public. As this area is on the 19th floor and will be 212 feet (64.6m) above Flinders St, extensive views of Townsville will be available to users in all directions.

On the floor above the restaurant a swimming pool will be provided for the benefit of motel guests… This floor will be served by the main lifts in the building.

There will be four plant floors in the building, one at the third floor level to house airconditioning plant, and three above the swimming pool level for lift motor equipment, airconditioning plant, water storage tanks and the cooling tower.

In all the total height of the building will be 295 feet (89.9m) above Flinders St.

It continues with detailed descriptions of the building, in fact more details then anyone could even wish to know eg “Adequate power supplies will be available, with allowance for provision of power points to suit tenants needs”

I wonder what happend with that. Maybe they had to decrease in height Maybe, or what could of happend there.

From the Townsville Bulletin 1/1/76 - the sugar shaker is nearing completion, the lift shaft of Metro Quays is UC and a crane at left is working on the Commonwealth Bank Building. Must have been an exciting time - 3 buildings UC taller then anything built before (well perhaps CB is a bit shorter than T&G - really don't know)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Oriolus/HolidayInnUC.jpg

That definatly looked like a good time for Townsville. However it wont match up to 2004/05 period, as there is likely to be at least Four to Five cranes up.

WOW! Sorry for bringing up such an old thread but how interesting is the material, So is there really any confirmation of the Sugar Shaker height/floor count? This is such a great read!

If you ask me I believe Townsville needs taller skyscrapers, but I still think the sugarshaker is a good icon of Townsville, it would be better being a couple of floors higher though. :tiasd: