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August 2nd, 2011, 12:00 PM
Construction currently sits at 40%, time to create a thread dedicated to this major project. The projet is to facilitate trade between DRC-Zambia, also the gateway for trade with SADC region.
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View Full Version : Katanga | Kasumbalesa - Zambia Border Post| Completed. preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:00 PM Construction currently sits at 40%, time to create a thread dedicated to this major project. The projet is to facilitate trade between DRC-Zambia, also the gateway for trade with SADC region. preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:02 PM Kasumbalesa Border Construction At 40 P.C. THE construction of the US$25 million modern facility at Kasumbalesa border on the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) side has started with about 40 per cent work being done. Zambian Border Crossing Company chief executive officer Avishy Dvir said in Kitwe that the construction works which started three months ago was on schedule. Mr Dvir said the facility would be commissioned in November this year. "The construction works are on course and the works are progressing according to plan. We started construction works in April this year and we are expected to complete the project in November," Mr Dvir said. The new facility would be offering 24 hours service, unlike the old arrangement when the border operated from 06:00 to 18:00 hours and only cleared 250 trucks in a day. General manager Samuel Sandi said the facility under construction in the neighbouring country was similar to the one which was commissioned by President Rupiah Banda on the Zambian side. Mr Sandi said the company would have to expand the single lane on the DRC side into six lanes. He said the facility would reduce the cost of doing business because clearing of cargo would be much faster. "Truck drivers previously used to pay about $300 per day because of delays in clearing the trucks on the border, but the cost will now be reduced," Mr Sandi said. He said the construction of the facility on the DRC side would improve revenue collection in both countries. The project will improve monitoring and collection of customs duty and other fees applicable. There would be proper office space, new weight bridge and the x-ray machines. The border has state of the art broadband internet connection, restaurants, banking facilities, clinic, washrooms, lavatories, duty free shop and an internet cafe among other facilities. The crossing point caters for all commercial traffic while the main goods are minerals (copper and cobalt) and mining inputs such as coal, sulphur, fuel, sulphuric acid as well as construction materials. Others are mining equipment, agricultural produce, food, beverages. Kasumbalesa attracts traffic originating or destined to the ports in South Africa, Mozambique, Tanzania, and Namibia as well as traffic to and from various SADC and COMESA countries.allafrica (http://allafrica.com/stories/201108012143.html) preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:03 PM http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1005/24.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1005/23.jpeg zipbcc preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:15 PM PREVIOUS POST This is the truck traffic I am talking about http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/preme3000/trucks-1.jpg http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/preme3000/Congo-China-404_737879c.jpg N1, Kasumbalesa, border with Zambia. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2024/rn1kasumbalesa.jpg picture of current works, I expected this route to be completed by now since its been a couple of years since they began work but like i said i am looking forward to the final product This is the same Lubumbashi-Kasumbalesa route, I don't actually know if this was before or after the Chinese projects. http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/preme3000/lumumbashii-kasumbalesa1.jpg preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:19 PM The Kasumbalesa Border Post Project - Facts, Figures & Benefits v Commissioned: 4 March 2011 Operational: 14 March 2011 v Project cost: USD 25 million. v Financing bank: the Development Bank of Southern Africa ("DBSA") v Construction: o Commencement of works: 15 April 2010 o Completion date (phase 1): 16 February 2011 o Duration of construction: 10 months o No of employees during construction: 450 o Contractor: Gomes Haulage Limited - a Zambian based contractor v Facilities: o 5,000 sq/m of buildings, offices, shades etc. o 100,000 sq/m of access roads and parking space (reinforced paved concrete). o Main reception hall area: 400 sq/m. o 54 offices for clearing agents and transporters. o 9 X 18 m high lighting towers. o Other facilities for border users: banks, shops, toilets, showers, dining area, etc. v No. of Government agencies to be accommodated: 14 v Capacity: o No. of entry trucks per day: over 600 o No. of exiting trucks per day: over 600 o No. of lanes: Total of 10 lanes o No of trucks entering/exiting per hour: 90 trucks per hour at the entry gates, 60 trucks per hour at the exit gates o No of passengers/ drivers to be processed through immigration desks: over 150 per hour v Expected time for clearance per truck: o 20 - 120 minutes assuming the clearing documents are available and complies with the Zambian laws. v Number of employees: 250 v I.T. System o Highly sophisticated, state-of-the-art system for the purpose of traffic control o Automated entry/exit lanes including license plate recognition technology, and automated axle counting technology. o Fully automated Control Room to monitor the smooth flow of traffic in the terminal o Advanced point-of-sale (POS) computerized cash machines o CCTV cameras cover internal and external areas, including the ability to rotate and zoom. o Public Announcement system v Phase 2 of the Project includes: warehouses, additional offices, 1,000 sq/m of housing and a market v Reducing costs of transport/trade o The old Kasumbalesa border post had queues of 400-500 trucks (12-14 km) to cross the border, causing delays of 3-7 days for a single truck. The long queues translated to a loss of USD900 - USD2,100 per truck per trip! o The new Kasumbalesa border has eliminated the long queues, while saving USD600 - USD1,800 per truck per trip and increasing the number of monthly return trips per truck. o This means that either less trucks are able to haul the same loads currently on offer or that the existing number of trucks are capable of hauling additional substantial tonnages v Prepaid activity o More than 2,000 trucks are registered under prepaid arrangements, which enables the respective companies to receive valuable information on their trucks at the border and eliminates the need for companies to hand-out cash money to the drivers. zipbcc (http://zipbcc.com/general/facts_figures.aspx) preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:27 PM Pictures of the Old Kasumbalesa Border http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/12.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/13.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/14.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/15.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/16.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/17.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/19.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/20.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/21.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1004/22.jpeg all pics taken from zipbcc (http://zipbcc.com/general/view_Images.aspx?bH%2f708i7LfU78USyFBK2DQ{a61}{a61}) preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:32 PM Under construction pictures part 1 http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/25.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/26.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/33.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/35.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/36.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/37.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/38.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/39.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/40.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/41.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/42.jpeg all pics taken from zipbcc preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:47 PM http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/56.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/57.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/58.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/59.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/60.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/61.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/62.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/63.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/66.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/67.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/68.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/69.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/70.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/75.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/79.jpeg ZIPBCC preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 12:49 PM Part 3 http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/80.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/81.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/82.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/88.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/89.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/83.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/85.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/87.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1006/86.jpeg Pius August 2nd, 2011, 01:23 PM This is a Zambian project executed on the Zambian side of the border. The Congolese side was modernized two years(?) ago. Still, it is good news to see that governments start taking the modernization of inner-SADC trade seriously. preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 01:56 PM Good spot Pius, are they not excuting both as one, for some reason I always thought that was the case? Any info on the DRC side of things? I have been looking for the modernisation pictures of Kasumbalesa for a while but couldnt find anything concrete until I came across that website. Let me see if I can hunt down the pictures of the DRC side. Pius August 2nd, 2011, 02:33 PM Good spot Pius, are they not excuting both as one, for some reason I always thought that was the case? Any info on the DRC side of things? I have been looking for the modernisation pictures of Kasumbalesa for a while but couldnt find anything concrete until I came across that website. Let me see if I can hunt down the pictures of the DRC side. Actually the Congolese side is yet to be modernized, which is a shame. Only the OCC has constructed a modern building that accomodates its offices. The Prime Minister recently visited the Kasumbalesa border post, but nothing concrete in terms future modernization came out of the visit. Some pictures of the new OCC building http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_dirkat_kasumbalesa_inauguration_siege_50020100222_kas71.jpg?t=1312288254 http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_dirkat_kasumbalesa_inauguration_siege_50020100222_kas10-21.jpg?t=1312288332 preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 02:45 PM Thats why I couldn't find anything previously. Are you aware of any reason for the failure to excute such an important project? The Zambians got their money from the African Development Bank so what is our excuse? Are we waiting for the Chinese as usual?:ohno: preme3000 August 2nd, 2011, 02:49 PM I think the road leading to the border went under a modernisation process either last year or the year before, the plan was to increase the number of lanes to a multi lane highway. I believe this was excuted under the 5 chantiers propaganda. Pius August 2nd, 2011, 04:01 PM Thats why I couldn't find anything previously. Are you aware of any reason for the failure to excute such an important project? The Zambians got their money from the African Development Bank so what is our excuse? Are we waiting for the Chinese as usual?:ohno: The scaling down of the Lubumbashi – Kasumbalesa infrastructure projects is a mystery to me too. The Lubambashi – Kasumbalesa highway project was abandonned because the rate of traffic did not justfy the construction of a highway proper. Considering the foreseeable increase in traffic due to current economic growth, this argument does not hold water. The construction of a modern cargo handling facility at Kasumbalesa, one of the two main ports of entry into and exit from the country, is as important as the construction of the Banana deep water port. Furthermore, it is not expensive to construct; Zambia is spending $ 25 million. Can’t the DRC do the same given the economic importance of the site? I wish I could put this question directly to both the provincial and the central governments. hsark August 3rd, 2011, 04:31 PM uh? thought ur side was complete can't u get a loan from dbsa? if u get a loan from the chinese they'll want their contractors to work on it preme3000 August 3rd, 2011, 05:12 PM uh? thought ur side was complete can't u get a loan from dbsa? if u get a loan from the chinese they'll want their contractors to work on it Hi hsark, There was an announcement about the works, I was actually under the impression that the work on our side was at least under construction or near completion but Pius gave me another insight into the whole mess. If a brother country can do it, then we certainly don't have any valid excuses, especially looking at the cost benefits for only a $25 million expenditure. It remains a mystery to us at this moment in time, I will update when possible. I havent had time to investigate. If the question was directed at the governments (central and provincial), they will use the scaling down of the China-Congo deal as an excuse for lack of finances to complete the project. I have to at least say well done Zambia for getting on with their part of the deal and for using local talents. Pius August 3rd, 2011, 05:16 PM Unfortunately, it was only a partial modernization consisting of the construction of a new office building. The following article depicts precisely the current situation. Le Potentiel (Kinshasa) Congo-Kinshasa: Katanga - Muzito s'implique dans l'assainissement du poste frontalier de Kasumbalesa Stephane Etinga 11 Mars 2011 Le Premier ministre, Adolphe Muzito, effectue actuellement une mission d'inspection au Katanga. Il s'est rendu mercredi à Kasumbalesa pour donner des directives visant l'assainissement du climat des affaires. Le Premier ministre, Adolphe Muzito, effectue depuis le début de la semaine, une mission d'inspection dans la province cuprifère du Katanga. Cette mission se situe notamment dans la recherche des voies et moyens permettant de maximiser les recettes de l'Etat dans diverses activités provinciales, surtout du secteur minier. Dans la journée du mercredi 9 mars, le chef du gouvernement s'est rendu au poste frontière de Kasumbalesa, à 90 km de Lubumbashi. D'après l'envoyé spécial de l'ACP qui fait partie de la suite du Premier ministre, celui-ci a saisi l'occasion pour donner des instructions visant à résoudre le problème de désengorgement de la zone neutre de ce poste. Actuellement, plus d'un millier de véhicules de grand tonnage sont bloqués dans le parking du poste de Kasumbalesa, aussi bien pour l'entrée que pour la sortie des frontières nationales. En attendant la mise en service du guichet unique, intégral et virtuel, les dispositions préconisées par le Premier ministre consistent en la création de cinq voies pour l'évacuation des véhicules ainsi qu'au renforcement des effectifs qui seront redéployés sur trois pôles et qui devront travailler 24 heures sur 24. S'agissant du guichet unique, le Premier ministre a précisé que la Direction générale des douanes et accises (DGDA) est la seule habilitée à percevoir les taxes et à les rétrocéder aux autres services autorisés à opérer aux postes frontières, à savoir l'Office congolais de contrôle (OCC), qui réclamait cette perception. Pour Adolphe Muzito, ce train de mesures visent à favoriser le climat des affaires en réduisant le temps des opérations commerciales afin d'attirer les investisseurs désireux de travailler au Katanga. Il a déploré les mauvaises conditions sanitaires dans la zone neutre et dans toute la bande frontière du côté de la RDC. Muzito a constaté sur place les marais, la boue et de la crasse alors que la partie zambienne est bien assaini. preme3000 August 3rd, 2011, 05:29 PM The Urban Man, thank you for the report. It just recites the usual Congolese BS, all talk no show, propaganda, something for TV and newspapers. These findings were there a few years back, nothing new. I could have saved these guys a trip and told them the situation years ago, anyone with even a little bit of interest in DRC knows about the bottleneck of Kasumbalesa. Little Zambia has put us to shame to tell you the truth. I no longer waste time commenting on this "government" anyway so I will leave it at that. Pius August 3rd, 2011, 05:39 PM The Urban Man, thank you for the report. It just recites the usual Congolese BS, all talk no show, propaganda, something for TV and newspapers. These findings were there a few years back, nothing new. I could have saved these guys a trip and told them the situation years ago, anyone with even a little bit of interest in DRC knows about the bottleneck of Kasumbalesa. Little Zambia has put us to shame to tell you the truth. I no longer waste time commenting on this "government" anyway so I will leave it at that. You said it. It's so humiliating... Pius August 3rd, 2011, 06:25 PM What is annoying about the Kasumbalesa situation is the fact that this border post can finance its modernization through the revenue generated by the trans-border traffic. Judge for yourself: Transporter charges in the DRC are as follows: DRC Cross-border Charges Breakdown 2010 Paid At the Border before Exit. Government Tax $50.00 Fumigation $50.00 Disinfection (Ministry of Health) $50.00 Card Entry $15.00 Visa for the Horse $25.00 Tourism and Vaccine $35.00 Break-bulk $20.00 Visa for the Driver (valid 2 weeks) $55.00 Containers $40.00 Total $340.00 Tolls in DRC Kasumbalesa - Lubumbashi (Return) $300.00 Lubumbashi - Likasi (Return) $300.00 Likasi - Tenke (Return) $150.00 $750.00 *Source of information and contribution from Anthony Bell, Kasembo Transport, Zambia. l'ecclesiaste August 22nd, 2011, 12:20 AM What is annoying about the Kasumbalesa situation is the fact that this border post can finance its modernization through the revenue generated by the trans-border traffic. Judge for yourself: Ce projet est deja en consrtuction depuis avril 2011,voir la visite du ministre provincial des itpr a kasumbalesa sur Nyotatv videos du 14/08,http://nyota.net/videos-on-line/news14aout/nyota-news-14aout.html. A la ceremonie d'inauguration en mars du post frontalier de la Zambie a Chingola,Moise avait promis de faire construire une copie conforme de ce post a Kasumbalesa,http://www.katanga.cd/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=979%3Adouanes-kasumbalesa&Itemid=122&lang=fr. L'entrepreneur a promis la fin des travaux pour octobre 2011. Pius August 22nd, 2011, 12:10 PM Ce projet est deja en consrtuction depuis avril 2011,voir la visite du ministre provincial des itpr a kasumbalesa sur Nyotatv videos du 14/08,http://nyota.net/videos-on-line/news14aout/nyota-news-14aout.html. A la ceremonie d'inauguration en mars du post frontalier de la Zambie a Chingola,Moise avait promis de faire construire une copie conforme de ce post a Kasumbalesa,http://www.katanga.cd/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=979%3Adouanes-kasumbalesa&Itemid=122&lang=fr. L'entrepreneur a promis la fin des travaux pour octobre 2011. :applause::applause: C'est ce que j'entends par gouverner. Grand bravo à M. Katumbi. Karavia August 22nd, 2011, 12:56 PM http://lh3.ggpht.com/-6kOSDy1Jjfw/TgYdW4HdK4I/AAAAAAAAKkc/KW7KUYmNop4/IMG_4795.JPG?imgmax=576 http://lh3.ggpht.com/-iYWbdzKDwqw/TgYcTq5-i8I/AAAAAAAAKkU/DgGDD41cRlg/IMG_4810.JPG Official site OCC:http://www.occ-rdc.cd/rubrique4.html BUTEMBO21 August 22nd, 2011, 01:05 PM Nice find Karavia. I fixed the video. Construction du Post Frontalier de Kasumbalesa : 14 Août Juillet 2011. 8leqtW5sMhU preme3000 August 22nd, 2011, 08:54 PM Big relief to see these updates, it would not have made any sense to neglect such a common sense project, thanks for the updates guys jjmutax August 23rd, 2011, 06:20 PM J'y étais y a moins d'une semaine et je dois vous dire que j4ai eu trés honte en voyant la différence entre les deux édifices, heuresement qu'il y a eu cette initiative mais pourquoi faire une copie conforme? Ne peut t'on pas être ingénieux et faire autres chose d'aussi simple et mignon? Je posterais les photos bientôt. Karavia August 23rd, 2011, 06:53 PM J'y étais y a moins d'une semaine et je dois vous dire que j4ai eu trés honte en voyant la différence entre les deux édifices, heuresement qu'il y a eu cette initiative mais pourquoi faire une copie conforme? Ne peut t'on pas être ingénieux et faire autres chose d'aussi simple et mignon? Je posterais les photos bientôt. jjmutax, Vous parlez du bâtiment de l'OCC? Si je ne me trompe les travaux du post frontalier sont financés par le gouvernorat provincial, ce qui n'est pas le cas du dit bâtiment ( je crois). jjmutax August 23rd, 2011, 07:03 PM Je parles bien du postes frontaliers, celui de l'OCC est deja finit et se trouve lui meme a quelque kilometre de la frontiere. J'aurais loader les photos mais ni photobucket ni tiny pic ne fonctione sur ma machine en ce moment jjmutax August 23rd, 2011, 07:32 PM http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/mutax2000/POSTRDC.jpg ACTUEL POST FRONTALIER DE LA RDC http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/mutax2000/POSTZAMBIE.jpg ACTUEL POST FRONTALIER DE LA ZAMBIE http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/mutax2000/CONSTRUCTIONPOSTE.jpg DRC CONSTRUCTION SITE (TO BE INDENTICAL TO THE ONE IN ZAMBIA) WHY INDENTICAL????????? BUTEMBO21 August 23rd, 2011, 10:22 PM LOL. Broda-Man August 24th, 2011, 12:49 AM have to say, that is really a gay move ! Why identical ? arrrrr ! Karavia August 24th, 2011, 03:38 AM Je pense que le choix de modèle types est limité. Vu le délai de livraison (Octobre 2011), je crois que le plus facile s'était de répéter ce qui avait déjà été fait du côté zambien. Attendons de voir les travaux finis pour en juger, peut être que la couleur sera différente :-) Pius August 24th, 2011, 04:45 AM Why not identical? This is not a beauty contest; it is a matter of efficiency. If the building company presented a design that answers all questions pertaining to security, parking, accommodation and administrative work, why not accept it? Furthermore, the identical construction of the two facilities helps the users to quickly familiarize with customs procedures in cross-border clearance. Broda-Man August 24th, 2011, 05:16 AM Hahaha, Maybe the colour will be different, who knz :) :P Well Pius, this fact of the building being Identical, figures -in my opinion- the lack of creativite. La seule chose qui me fruste est que le plan de ces deux ediffices soit identique. C'est juste sa. Maintenant sur le point de ce que le batiment va regrouper, je ne trouve aucun probleme que les services qui s#y trouverons soit pareille a ceux qui existent deja chez les Zambiens. C'est juste le cote architecture. Je trouve que sa aurait etait mieux de cree un design unique, mais qui pourrait se marier a celui de la Zambie, pour ne pas cree un cauchemar visuel. Pius August 24th, 2011, 09:55 AM Hahaha, Maybe the colour will be different, who knz :) :P Well Pius, this fact of the building being Identical, figures -in my opinion- the lack of creativite. La seule chose qui me fruste est que le plan de ces deux ediffices soit identique. C'est juste sa. Maintenant sur le point de ce que le batiment va regrouper, je ne trouve aucun probleme que les services qui s#y trouverons soit pareille a ceux qui existent deja chez les Zambiens. C'est juste le cote architecture. Je trouve que sa aurait etait mieux de cree un design unique, mais qui pourrait se marier a celui de la Zambie, pour ne pas cree un cauchemar visuel. Il faudrait plutôt parler de bâtiments similaires qu’identiques car il est évident qu’il y aura des signes distinctifs entre les installations zambiennes et congolaises, ne fût-ce que pour éviter aux usagers la méprise. Cela peut aller de la couleur des bâtiments à celle des vitres, en passant par la disposition des parkings, etc. L’essentiel est que les activités administratives transfrontalières se déroulent désormais dans des bonnes conditions afin d’éviter à l’économie nationale le lourd manque à gagner actuel. En ce qui concerne l’originalité architecturale, nous devrions plutôt concentrer nos efforts dans la modernisation de nos villes et campagnes avec, entre autres, les fonds générés par le poste frontière Kasumbalesa… preme3000 August 24th, 2011, 10:29 AM I was very impressed with what they have achieved over the Zambian side and for the price it was achieved. I think having the same on our side is a very welcome addition. demavin August 24th, 2011, 02:27 PM I was very impressed with what they have achieved over the Zambian side and for the price it was achieved. I think having the same on our side is a very welcome addition. They could have done better but copycat is always the first step towards mastery and independence. preme3000 August 24th, 2011, 05:09 PM They could have done better but copycat is always the first step towards mastery and independence. I understand where you are coming from. My only beef was that the Zambians raced ahead whilst we appeared to stand still but I am quite happy with the progress and updates I have seen since. It is one of those small in scale but very practical project. If it looks as good as what I have seen from the Zambians then I am all for it. l'ecclesiaste August 25th, 2011, 12:44 AM Pas de panique guys.Au mois de mars dernier,le PM Muzito s'etait rendu a kasumalesa pour regler le different entre l'Occ et l'ex Ofida mais sans succes.Ce projet concu par un entrepreneur Israelien a ete aggree par le COMESA pour resoudre les differents problemes aux post frontaliers,http://www.comesa.int/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73:delegation-from-drc-government-visits-comesa-secretariat&catid=6:latest-news&Itemid=59. C'est ainsi qu'en homme averti connaissant la lethargie de notre administration et sachant que time is money,a pris cette courageuse decision de construire un post similaire ,identique par sa conception et par la technologie utilisee.Ce projet est totalement pris en charge par le govt provincial du Katanga avec l'argent que genere la route L'shi-Kasumbalesa tandis que le post Zambien a ete finance par une banque qui va gerer ce post pendant 20ans,http://www.ips.org/fr/zambie-un-poste-frontiere-de-pointe-transforme-le-commerce/. Pour les observateurs avertis en regardant la video et les photos de Jjmutax vous verrez que le batiment principal Zambien a 3 niveaux tandis que du cote Congolais,il a 4 niveaux.Coup de chapeau a Moise Katumbi,un visionaire, un homme pragmatique dont les mesures prises commencent a porter des fruits. Pius August 25th, 2011, 02:17 AM Pas de panique guys.Au mois de mars dernier,le PM Muzito s'etait rendu a kasumalesa pour regler le different entre l'Occ et l'ex Ofida mais sans succes.Ce projet concu par un entrepreneur Israelien a ete aggree par le COMESA pour resoudre les differents problemes aux post frontaliers,http://www.comesa.int/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73:delegation-from-drc-government-visits-comesa-secretariat&catid=6:latest-news&Itemid=59. C'est ainsi qu'en homme averti connaissant la lethargie de notre administration et sachant que time is money,a pris cette courageuse decision de construire un post similaire ,identique par sa conception et par la technologie utilisee.Ce projet est totalement pris en charge par le govt provincial du Katanga avec l'argent que genere la route L'shi-Kasumbalesa tandis que le post Zambien a ete finance par une banque qui va gerer ce post pendant 20ans,http://www.ips.org/fr/zambie-un-poste-frontiere-de-pointe-transforme-le-commerce/. Pour les observateurs avertis en regardant la video et les photos de Jjmutax vous verrez que le batiment principal Zambien a 3 niveaux tandis que du cote Congolais,il a 4 niveaux.Coup de chapeau a Moise Katumbi,un visionaire, un homme pragmatique dont les mesures prises commencent a porter des fruits. On a envie de dire Amen... preme3000 August 25th, 2011, 10:53 AM Coup de chapeau a Moise Katumbi,un visionaire, un homme pragmatique dont les mesures prises commencent a porter des fruits. yes indeed sir! and thanks for the precise updates Broda-Man August 25th, 2011, 12:12 PM Amen to that !! jeroboamed August 25th, 2011, 12:30 PM tres magnifique!! preme3000 August 26th, 2011, 02:22 PM Moise with preseident Banda at the opening ceremony for the Zambian side; http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1009/144.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1009/147.jpeg http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1009/149.jpeg preme3000 August 26th, 2011, 02:38 PM zambia times article dated 10 august 11 Every nation's economic, political and social cycle cannot be complete without a proper facilitation of trade both locally and internationally. Trade in both goods and services is necessitated by the fact that no single country can produce all its needs hence the interdependence that has been created by various nations. Having realised the importance of harnessing its business relations with the international community, Zambia has made strides towards the cause among them, the attainment of membership to various organs that directly promote international trade such as the Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA), Southern African Development Community (SADC), and the African Growth Opportunity Act (AGOA). Zambia has also developed its own mechanisms to promote foreign trade among them the upgrading and construction of modern border facilities. Early this year, a state-of-the-art US $25 million worth modern facility at Kasumbalesa border post in Chililabombwe was commissioned by President Rupiah Banda at a ceremony attended by various dignitaries among them Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) Governor Moses Katumbi. The facility was constructed under the Public Private Partnership (PPP) initiative, which Zambia recently enacted into law. A similar facility on the DRC's side of Kasumbalesa has thus started to complete the circuit. If the DRC side had continued with the old system, the benefits of the Kasumbalesa modern facility on the Zambia side would not have been fully realised. While Zambia is poised to construct similar facilities at other border posts, Malawi is in the process of enacting the PPP initiative into law as announced by that country's Ministry of Industry and Trade Permanent Secretary Newby Kumwembe who toured the modern Kasumbalesa Border Post in the company of his Zambian counterpart Buleti Nsemukila. Zambia Border Crossing Company (ZBCC), the firm that constructed the facility, recently announced that a similar border post on the DRC's side of Kasumbalesa is being constructed following an agreement with authorities in that country. ZBCC Chief Executive Officer Avishy Dvir said 40 percent works had been done on the state of the art facility which is scheduled for commissioning in November this year. This is indeed a welcome development as having a modern facility on the Zambian side while the DRC still relies on the old post had not resulted in the envisaged results of enhancing the clearance of cargo carriers and other goods and services. The old structure in DRC could not effectively and efficiently handle the volumes of trade between the two countries. The construction of the two facilities has a number of economic benefits for the two countries and the individual traders among them the reduction in the cost of doing business due to the fast clearance of cargo on both sides. The new facilities would ensure maximum revenue collection for both countries due to new features that have improved monitoring and security mechanisms such as CCTV high zoom cameras remote monitored from a control room. Employment creation is another aspect as the concession firm has recruited more than 250 permanent employees with 50 of them interfacing with computers and other advanced Information Technology (IT) systems. The installed IT systems enables the Government and other agencies access pertinent security, safety, clearance and health data hence the improved monitoring of illegal items and trafficking, hazardous goods, livestock and matters relating to cold storage. There is the adequate office space. Other facilities in place are banks, bureau du changes, internet cafes, restaurants, duty free shops, showers, lavatories, access to running water as well as dining areas, entertainment centres and large parking lots for drivers. The Government plans to modernize all major border posts, among them Nakonde, Kazungula, Mwami, Kipushi and Jimbe, were underway to ensure an increase in trade volumes in the Southern Africa Development Community (SADC) and COMESA regions and beyond. In Nakonde, the construction of a K 31.2 billion one-stop-border which was suspended in February last year has resumed and is progressing well. Here again, it is the ZBCC which has been contracted to finish the works under the PPP arrangement. ZBCC Deputy Project manager Collen Ndiweni said the construction works are progressing well. A Zambian company based in Lusaka has been sub-contracted to do the painting and flooring. A vehicle scanning machine will be placed at Nakonde District Commissioner Billy Silwimba said once completed, the modern border facility will boost revenue collection and enable the Government to have enough resources for various projects For sure the modernisation of border facilities is cardinal to Zambia's social and economic agenda and the PPP initiative is probably the sure way of speeding up the process lest with the limited state resources which have to be shared in many sectors. The initiative which entails a private sector partner financing and running a particular infrastructure for an agreed concession period then hand it over to the state at no fee should thus be extended to other sectors of the economy besides the border posts. The construction of the modern border posts on both the Zambian and DRC sides of Kasumbalesa would indeed catapult economic growth in both countries as they enjoy a cordial trade partnership which accounts for over US $ 1 billion, second only to Zambia's trade partnership with South Africa among other countries in the region. The anticipated increase in the number of operational hours from 12 to 24 hours, the increase in the number of traffic lanes and reduced clearance process would make Kasumbalesa Border Post commensurate increase in revenue to the national coffers. Afterall, the border's main imports and exports include copper and cobalt, mining equipment, mining inputs such as sulphuric acid, sulphur, coal and fuel as well as construction materials. Others are agricultural produce, food and beverages some of which is destined or originates from oversees through the various ports in the region, Zambia being a landlocked country. kaps76 September 12th, 2011, 02:41 PM UwDJ_Av-298 Karavia September 12th, 2011, 03:26 PM ^^ Moise said they're going to do something better than Zambia! Good Thanks Kaps76 Pius September 12th, 2011, 05:24 PM Thanks Kaps for the great update. One can only commend the Governor’s initiative, even though this was the least one could expect from his administration, considering the huge cash generated by this border post. BTW, the Direction Générale de Migration (DGM) promised, a year ago, to upgrade the Ruzizi 1&2 (Bukavu) and the “Beach Ngobila” (Kinshasa) border posts by building state-of-the-art administrative buildings. What happened to the plan? Just an academic question… Broda-Man September 12th, 2011, 05:31 PM Kaps, from which website did you get the video from ? kaps76 September 12th, 2011, 06:22 PM Kaps, from which website did you get the video from ? I recorded it from the live feed of digital congo...no website. Broda-Man September 12th, 2011, 07:24 PM Oh nice ! I'll try to do that as well. Thanks man. :) MotoPamba September 12th, 2011, 10:32 PM I like how he addressed the public in Swahili. That was really good. we need more of that. bandundu September 13th, 2011, 08:38 AM ^^ Moise said they're going to do something better than Zambia! Good Thanks Kaps76But didin't one of you mention that the building will look exactly like that of the Zambians , if that is the case I don't know how they intend to do something better than the Zambians Karavia September 13th, 2011, 09:30 AM But didin't one of you mention that the building will look exactly like that of the Zambians , if that is the case I don't know how they intend to do something better than the Zambians Yes, someone said that but it was just an assumption. In this interview, he said in Swahili: " I told you that we're going to do something better and I don't want to talk too much, you'll see". bandundu September 13th, 2011, 10:25 AM Yes, someone said that but it was just an assumption. In this interview, he said in Swahili: " I told you that we're going to do something better and I don't want to talk too much, you'll see". Wel, I guess we wills have to wait and see. But please guys , it will be so helpful if we state the facts rather than make assumptions bandundu September 13th, 2011, 10:28 AM I like how he addressed the public in Swahili. That was really good. we need more of that. Who is this tribalist!!! did you realy have to point this out preme3000 September 13th, 2011, 10:42 AM Wel, I guess we wills have to wait and see. But please guys , it will be so helpful if we state the facts rather than make assumptions It was not an assumption, it was a direct quote from Moise. Just like now he has said he will build something better. Ce projet est deja en consrtuction depuis avril 2011,voir la visite du ministre provincial des itpr a kasumbalesa sur Nyotatv videos du 14/08,http://nyota.net/videos-on-line/news14aout/nyota-news-14aout.html. A la ceremonie d'inauguration en mars du post frontalier de la Zambie a Chingola,Moise avait promis de faire construire une copie conforme de ce post a Kasumbalesa,http://www.katanga.cd/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=979%3Adouanes-kasumbalesa&Itemid=122&lang=fr. L'entrepreneur a promis la fin des travaux pour octobre 2011. Karavia September 13th, 2011, 10:53 AM Thanks Preme3000 for the correction! Broda-Man September 13th, 2011, 06:26 PM Who is this tribalist!!! did you realy have to point this out Where is there tribalism in what the person said ?? o.O BUTEMBO21 September 13th, 2011, 07:59 PM Who is this tribalist!!! did you realy have to point this out What was tribalist about what he said? MotoPamba September 14th, 2011, 12:30 AM Who is this tribalist!!! did you realy have to point this out Im seriously confused here but im not gonna pass any judgement until you actually tell us what is tribalist about me saying i like to see more swahili from Moise. Swahili is one of the national languages in Katanga and the country. SO what is that made you conclude that there was tribalism here. litho September 14th, 2011, 01:12 AM Who is this tribalist!!! did you realy have to point this out I really don’t see anything tribal about what he says, here we know MotoPamba is a nationalist who like national languages than European languages, I know he would says the same thing if Katumbe speaks in Kikongo, Thsiluba or Lingala. The thing I don’t like when someone call anyone tribal. Swahili is one Congolese language, so everyone is free to speak any language they want. If tomorrow Swahili become Congo official language I wont cry because it is one of our languages, but I wont be happy if they make us speak Kinyarwanda or Hibo. Eteya biso. bandundu September 14th, 2011, 08:37 AM Maybe I was wrong to call motopamba tribalist, I do apologise, but it would have been better if he would have said " I am happy he addressed the people in a congolese language''. This would avoid any misinterpretation. Karavia September 14th, 2011, 01:38 PM A little more details about the work progress Le Gouverneur de province est descendu le mardi 23 aout dernier à Kasumbalesa où se construit un nouveau poste frontalier afin de se rendre compte de l évolution des travaux qui en terme de pourcentage se chiffre à 7O% d exécution. Le nouveau bâtiment comptera trois niveaux: le rez-de-chaussée va être occupé par les quatre services principaux dont l OCC et la DGDA, le premier niveau va abriter le service de supervision. La direction ou le management logera au deuxième niveau tandis que la tour de contrôle sera au quatrième et coiffera l édifice. Trois parkings vont être disposés un pour les privés, le deuxième pour les remorques et le troisième pour les camions canters. Pour le Gouverneur de province, seul l idée d offrir à la RD CONGO des bâtiments plus sécurisants à militer en faveur de l érection de ce poste qui sera inauguré au mois de novembre prochain. A noter que ce poste de Kasumbalesa va être le plus moderne de la RDC et il est une copie de celui de la Zambie sauf que celui du Congo sera doté de matériels de standard international. Gilbert J.V Kakab l'ecclesiaste September 15th, 2011, 11:01 AM Je me rend de plus en plus compte que pour etre nationaliste,il faut parler lingala.Le lavage de cerveau est entrain de faire des victimes meme dans le milieu des intellectuels et de la diaspora.Le lingala,le swahili,kikongo et tshiluba sont des langues nationales tandis que seul le francais est la langue officielle et tout congolais est libre de s'exprimer dans la langue de son choix pour mieux exprimer sa pensee. Karavia October 12th, 2011, 04:52 PM Est ce le poste frontalier du côté congolais? Parce que normalement le nôtre à 3 niveaux, celui de la Zambie à 2 niveaux. http://www.lacroisette.org/xsette/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nouveau-poste-frontalier-de-kasumbalesa-300x240.jpg Pius October 12th, 2011, 05:49 PM Est ce le poste frontalier du côté congolais? Parce que normalement le nôtre à 3 niveaux, celui de la Zambie à 2 niveaux. http://www.lacroisette.org/xsette/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nouveau-poste-frontalier-de-kasumbalesa-300x240.jpg Sans aucun doute, c’est le nôtre. Non seulement le nombre d’étages correspond à l’immeuble en construction dans les différents reportages, mais aussi le bord de route peint en rouge et blanc, c’est notre marque déposée… Karavia October 12th, 2011, 06:30 PM Sans aucun doute, c’est le nôtre. Non seulement le nombre d’étages correspond à l’immeuble en construction dans les différents reportages, mais aussi le bord de route peint en rouge et blanc, c’est notre marque déposée… :lol: Merci Pius! ILOVERDC13 October 12th, 2011, 08:36 PM Est ce le poste frontalier du côté congolais? Parce que normalement le nôtre à 3 niveaux, celui de la Zambie à 2 niveaux. http://www.lacroisette.org/xsette/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nouveau-poste-frontalier-de-kasumbalesa-300x240.jpg J'aime ca:cheers::cheers: Merci Moise LOL young po October 13th, 2011, 01:18 AM :) :) jjmutax October 13th, 2011, 10:48 AM Est ce le poste frontalier du côté congolais? Parce que normalement le nôtre à 3 niveaux, celui de la Zambie à 2 niveaux. I hope it is but seeing the structure of the one in construction i don't think it is. Plus the red and white color is found everywhere even in Zambia. The typical congolese color is the blue and yellow. He those where the color on the border then we would have been sure it was on our side. Pius October 13th, 2011, 11:51 AM I hope it is but seeing the structure of the one in construction i don't think it is. Plus the red and white color is found everywhere even in Zambia. The typical congolese color is the blue and yellow. He those where the color on the border then we would have been sure it was on our side. The pictures below unmistakably show that these are two different buildings Zambian border post http://zipbcc.com/admin/photo_gallery/Album/1010/154.jpeg Purpoted Congolese border post http://www.lacroisette.org/xsette/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nouveau-poste-frontalier-de-kasumbalesa-300x240.jpg Pius October 13th, 2011, 12:09 PM If there were still any doubt as to on which side of the border the 3-storey building is located, the video below (2:18) sets the matter straight. UwDJ_Av-298 l'ecclesiaste October 13th, 2011, 03:45 PM If there were still any doubt as to on which side of the border the 3-storey building is located, the video below (2:18) sets the matter straight. UwDJ_Av-298 Les images du 04/10/2011,dans ce journal de juatv. http://rtlj.net/journaux/journal_live. Karavia October 13th, 2011, 03:57 PM Mukubwa, aksanti! Surprise, je ne savais pas que la chaîne de Muyambo diffusée sur le net. l'ecclesiaste October 21st, 2011, 01:21 PM Mukubwa, aksanti! Surprise, je ne savais pas que la chaîne de Muyambo diffusée sur le net. Aksanti na wewe.Les videos sont irregulieres depuis la brouille avec Moise mais par contre congoweb tv de Gabriel Shabani est tres interessante. http://www.dailymotion.com/CONGOWEBTV#videoId=xk62ya ILOVERDC13 October 21st, 2011, 10:22 PM Aksanti na wewe.Les videos sont irregulieres depuis la brouille avec Moise mais par contre congoweb tv de Gabriel Shabani est tres interessante. http://www.dailymotion.com/CONGOWEBTV#videoId=xk62ya :lol::lol::lol: C'est trop bizarre de voir mon propre cousin Willy Kayembe on that channel. Really? He always wanted to be on TV, goodluck to him:lol::lol::lol: Can't believe it:lol::lol: l'ecclesiaste November 14th, 2011, 11:32 AM Inauguration de KBP. yYkrCgzaDfk. Many thanks Kapson bandundu November 14th, 2011, 01:29 PM Much better than Ndjili airport, I realy wish all international visitors could use Kusumbalesa as their port of entry into Congo. It could realy save us so much embarrasment. It's indeed much better than the Zambian, they are using plastic chairs, while our immigration officers are enjoying the comfort of smooth leather chairs Pius November 14th, 2011, 02:58 PM Thanks Kaps. This is a great achievement for the DRC; the country is laying the foundations for its future development in a remarkable way. However, the biggest challenge remains the maintenance of the newly built infrastructure, and I hope that arrangements were made to that effect. Newcongo November 14th, 2011, 03:07 PM This is a beauty for congo. yes the maintaince should be provided kaps76 November 14th, 2011, 04:25 PM great building indeed. Now I hope that Ndjili will also be upgraded. The good thing of the elections is that politicians have the come up with all sort of electoral promises. I am eager to see what they have for Kin. Karavia November 14th, 2011, 05:03 PM Super!! En plus on s'est pas contenté simplement du building mais aussi de doter les agents d'un outil performant et moderne. C'est pas souvent le cas dans nos mentalités, je tenais à le souligner, Bravo! Mulopwe November 14th, 2011, 06:31 PM Much better than Ndjili airport, I realy wish all international visitors could use Kusumbalesa as their port of entry into Congo. It could realy save us so much embarrasment. It's indeed much better than the Zambian, they are using plastic chairs, while our immigration officers are enjoying the comfort of smooth leather chairs + 1000 Mulopwe Epaphras November 14th, 2011, 07:22 PM Inauguration de KBP. yYkrCgzaDfk. Many thanks Kapson Superb work. Governor Katumbi is a great asset for JoKa and for the country as a whole. He has demonstrated a high level of leadership's skills in getting things done and commitment to assignments as a governor with visible and indisputable concret results. I doubt there's any other official who has done so well. If JoKa doesn't bring him to Kin for governorship of the nation capital or Premier Minister's post we will understand that he (JoKa) isn't for the county's good! Epaphras November 14th, 2011, 07:31 PM By the way, I need help here: wasn't lake Bengwela currently in Zambia's territory a Congolese lake in the past (from colonial time to Mobutu's era)? Could anyone especially from the Katanga's province shed light as to why lake Bengwela is today a Zambian property? preme3000 November 14th, 2011, 09:53 PM Great video by Kapson, thanks to l'ecclesiaste for posting. Like previously mentioned, let us hope the maintenance is up to standard. MBA-Congo November 14th, 2011, 10:01 PM Superb work. Governor Katumbi is a great asset for JoKa and for the country as a whole. He has demonstrated a high level of leadership's skills in getting things done and commitment to assignments as a governor with visible and indisputable concret results. I doubt there's any other official who has done so well. If JoKa doesn't bring him to Kin for governorship of the nation capital or Premier Minister's post we will understand that he (JoKa) isn't for the county's good! Kabila will always have a place in Katanga with Congo or without he has proved it through his action. preme3000 November 23rd, 2011, 10:58 AM Kasumbalesa Upgrade Completed On DRC Side Kasumbalesa Upgrade Completed On DRC Side 21 November 2011 THE construction of the US$20 million modern facility at Kasumbalesa border on the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) side has been completed. Zambian Border Crossing Company chief executive officer Avishy Dvir said in an interview in Kitwe at the weekend that construction which started in April this year was completed two weeks ago. Mr Dvir said the construction of the border facility on the DRC side was completed in the record time of six months. "We are happy that the facility on the DRC side was completed in the record time of six months and according to plan. It was completed on November 1, 2011," Mr Dvir. The border facility which had since been commissioned had 2000 square metre office space and 35,000 square metre parking lot space. Mr Dvir said the facility had an access concrete road connecting Zambia and the DRC. He said the DRC facility was commissioned by President Joseph Kabila and Katanga Governor Moses Katumbi on November 11, this year. Mr Dvir said now that the facilities were in place, it was left to the two governments to conclude the concept of one stop border. Early this year, a state-of-the-art US$25 million worth facility at Kasumbalesa border on the Zambian side near Chililabombwe was commissioned The facility was constructed under the Public Private Partnership The construction of the two facilities has a number of economic benefits for the two countries and the individual traders. One of the benefits is the reduction in the cost of doing business due to the fast clearance of cargo on both sides. The new facilities would ensure maximum revenue collection for both countries due to new features that have improved monitoring and security mechanisms. These include closed circuit televion (CCTV0 facility and high zoom cameras remote monitored from a control room. Employment creation is another aspect as the concession firm has recruited more than 250 permanent employees with 50 of them interfacing with computers and other advanced Information Technology systems.allafrica Pius November 23rd, 2011, 04:19 PM The new Kasumbalesa border post facility is operational Courtesy of OCC Kasongo Mukonzo http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSC00161.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1182.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF6448_1.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1209_2.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF6423.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1212.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1207_1.jpg Broda-Man November 23rd, 2011, 04:48 PM Nice ! Tkx. Epaphras November 23rd, 2011, 05:20 PM The new Kasumbalesa border post facility is operational Courtesy of OCC Kasongo Mukonzo http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSC00161.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1182.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF6448_1.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1209_2.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF6423.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1212.jpg http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/occ_Kasongo_Mukonzo_inauguration_poste_Kasumbalesa_20111111_DSCF1207_1.jpg Will it be fairly managed and bring money to the national treasury rather than to pockets of "elected" thieves? That's the $ 1,000000 question! Karavia November 23rd, 2011, 07:07 PM Will it be fairly managed and bring money to the national treasury rather than to pockets of "elected" thieves? That's the $ 1,000000 question! Donnons leur le bénéfice du doute! D'autant plus que les recettes sont en nette progression chaque année et que l'informatisation et le paiement électronique vont sensiblement diminuer les cas de fraudes. preme3000 November 23rd, 2011, 07:25 PM Will it be fairly managed and bring money to the national treasury rather than to pockets of "elected" thieves? That's the $ 1,000000 question! Like Karavia said, lets give them the benefit of the doubt but I don't have as much faith as she does in these guys. For example, Moise has interests in the trucking industry and guess what? Trucks registered to his companies do not pay any charges or taxes going in/out, and do not have to wait for any processing like everyone else. I have said it many times, I dont mind corrupt politicians as long as they are doing their job at a competent level, like Moise. On the flipside, I doubt I have seen a more professional project than the execution of this project, with very little propaganda too. It is a very practical project too, straight away you can see the utility and benefits. Makes you want to go and do business in the area. Thanks for the great pics Pius. Karavia November 23rd, 2011, 08:10 PM On the flipside, I doubt I have seen a more professional project than the execution of this project, with very little propaganda too. It is a very practical project too, straight away you can see the utility and benefits. Makes you want to go and do business in the area. I agree and wish the same for Luano City project. ILOVERDC13 November 24th, 2011, 04:59 PM It's a "beauty". It is pretty useless if the same people who have been working there, have been stealing from the national treasury for ages and they are still operating there today. We need new employees with a new mentality otherwise that will remain a waste. preme3000 November 25th, 2011, 09:27 AM It's a "beauty". It is pretty useless if the same people who have been working there, have been stealing from the national treasury for ages and they are still operating there today. We need new employees with a new mentality otherwise that will remain a waste. Whether we have our reservations or not and most stories are just allegations, credit must be given when its due and in this case the government is due some credit for its strong efforts here. If you follow some of the reports posted on this thread, you will see all the comments are positive from the business people involved. Costs and the speed of doing business in the area has improved, that is a very big positive. ILOVERDC13 November 25th, 2011, 06:19 PM Whether we have our reservations or not and most stories are just allegations, credit must be given when its due and in this case the government is due some credit for its strong efforts here. If you follow some of the reports posted on this thread, you will see all the comments are positive from the business people involved. Costs and the speed of doing business in the area has improved, that is a very big positive. I gave credits to the Katumbi administration. I hope for Katanga sake and DRC national treasury that our people mentality changes or they change the employees out of there. I personnaly know some people from there so I know what I'm talking about. Karavia December 4th, 2011, 07:35 PM Un article intéressant que j'ai lu ce weekend sur le site de Syfia. L’informatisation de la douane au poste de Kasumbalesa, au Katanga, à la frontière avec la Zambie, a permis de multiplier par 30 les recettes de l’Etat. Importateurs et exportateurs y perdent aussi moins de temps. Ceux d’entre eux et les douaniers qui profitaient de l’ancien système pour frauder sont les seuls mécontents… Le soleil est de plomb ce samedi du mois d’octobre à Whisky, un village proche de la cité congolaise de Kasumbalesa. Des vendeurs d’eau et de boissons glacées passent et repassent parmi des centaines de passagers des camions remorques géants qui attendent ici, en files interminables, leurs visas pour traverser la frontière avec la Zambie. On n’en compte pas moins de 100 chaque jour côté congolais. Beaucoup de monde qui passait jusque-là un temps fou à ce poste douanier, le plus important de la RD Congo, avant ceux de Matadi (Bas-Congo) et de Kasindi (Nord-Kivu). Mais depuis un peu plus de deux ans, les opérations de dédouanement des marchandises s’y sont sensiblement améliorées, grâce à l’installation d’un guichet unique informatisé. “Dans le temps, la douane nous prenait une à deux semaines à cause de la lourdeur des opérations qui étaient manuelles, et aussi à cause des manœuvres des douaniers”, raconte un chauffeur zambien, qui a obtenu son bulletin de liquidation moins de 48h après le dépôt de sa déclaration douanière. Ce bulletin reprend le montant des taxes que l’importateur doit payer à la banque, pour entrer en possession de sa marchandise. Minimiser les fraudes Les marchandises qui entrent en RD Congo par cette frontière viennent d’Asie, d’Afrique australe ou d’Afrique de l’Est. Et le pays exporte essentiellement des minerais : cuivre, cobalt… Au guichet unique, c’est un nouveau logiciel du système douanier appelé Sydonia + +, qui analyse et vérifie la quantité et la nature des marchandises à l’import-export. Ce logiciel permet aux différents services douaniers de communiquer en interne par messagerie électronique. “A partir des données comme l’identité du porteur, la nature de la marchandise, sa quantité… que d’autres services me transmettent, je fais la taxation en me référant aux tarifs des droits et taxes à l’import-export, dont la version électronique est sur ma machine”, explique un agent taxateur, bien calé devant son ordinateur. Développé par la Conférence des Nations unies sur le commerce et le développement (CNUCED), Sydonia + + ou Sydonia web a été conçu pour améliorer les recettes publiques et renforcer l’activité économique. A Kasumbalesa, il a permis de minimiser les pratiques de minoration des taxes qui étaient monnaie courante entre douaniers, déclarants et opérateurs économiques et qui faisaient perdre au profit des individus, d’énormes sommes d’argent au Trésor public. Les recettes ont ainsi explosé à ce poste : “De l’ordre de 1,2 millions de dollars américains par mois avant l’informatisation, elles ont atteint à ce jour 32 millions”, affirme Xavérine Karomba, vice-ministre provinciale du Commerce. Un grand motif de satisfaction pour les autorités, qui prend au piège les habitués de la fraude douanière et tous ceux des services frontaliers qui s’en mettent souvent plein les poches. “Ceux qui déclaraient autrefois la farine en lieu et place du ciment ont eu des maux de ventre…”, déclare avec un brin d’humour Joseph Smet, lui-même opérateur économique du Katanga. Des importateurs mécontents Dans les services de la Direction générale des douanes et accises (DGDA), à Kasumbalesa, les agents qui avaient pris goût à l’ancien système, avec une administration lourde et très attachée à de la paperasse, reconnaissent les avantages de l’informatisation de la douane. Ce qui n’empêche pas certains parmi eux de s’arracher les cheveux : “Les recettes que nous générons sont importantes mais elles sont versées directement dans le compte du pouvoir central (Kinshasa, Ndlr), qui ne se préoccupe pas des conditions dans lesquelles nous vivons”, maugrée l’un d’eux. Certains opérateurs économiques avouent qu’avant, ils étaient “à l’aise” mais que “cette histoire d’informatisation est venue tout compliquer.” Un membre de la Fédération des entreprises du Congo (FEC/Katanga) estime que le nouveau système les désavantage : “Nous qui importons sommes fatigués, car il y en a qui paient le double de ce qu’ils payaient avant.”. Mais à la DGDA, où les chiffres en augmentation des recettes sont un acquis positif, on déclare ne s’en tenir qu’aux lois de 2008, qui fixent les tarifs des droits et taxes douaniers à l’import-export. ILOVERDC13 December 6th, 2011, 03:47 PM Things are changing this side, less corruptions is happening. I hope for the best. Broda-Man December 6th, 2011, 08:37 PM 32 millions ? O_O ILOVERDC13 January 16th, 2012, 11:47 AM The board is run by Katanga Boarders Post Company Limited which is a private company which makes the boarder a public-private owned. A normal (SUV included) car pays up to 10 dollars and the tracks pay up to 300 dollars at this peage. http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m547/ILOVERDC13/IMG-20120103-01147.jpg This is the parking and around the Kasumbelesa peage there is a huge parking. It really shows that a lot of money comes in. http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m547/ILOVERDC13/IMG-20120103-01150.jpg The interior which I was not permitted to take picture but yeahhh. http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m547/ILOVERDC13/IMG-20120103-01151.jpg The building itself. http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m547/ILOVERDC13/IMG-20120103-01149.jpg So some serious managements have been established behind this boarder and the sad part is most "commercant" saw this as a danger to pay taxes every entries, they decided to go into the parliament so they don't pay the taxes and a notable amount of them won the elections. This behaviour will cost us less taxes. I don't have the current exact amount of money that comes in but Moise said it is more than 80 million dollar a month so do the math and tell me why some SERIOUS Katanga developments haven't been endorsed? Broda-Man January 16th, 2012, 01:21 PM The board is run by Katanga Boarders Post Company Limited which is a private company which makes the boarder a public-private owned. A normal (SUV included) car pays up to 10 dollars and the tracks pay up to 300 dollars at this peage. This is the parking and around the Kasumbelesa peage there is a huge parking. It really shows that a lot of money comes in. The interior which I was not permitted to take picture but yeahhh. The building itself. So some serious managements have been established behind this boarder and the sad part is most "commercant" saw this as a danger to pay taxes every entries, they decided to go into the parliament so they don't pay the taxes and a notable amount of them won the elections. This behaviour will cost us less taxes. I don't have the current exact amount of money that comes in but Moise said it is more than 80 million dollar a month so do the math and tell me why some SERIOUS Katanga developments haven't been endorsed? Iloverdc..can them deputes vote laws that have to do with the border. Such as taxes ? Pius January 16th, 2012, 05:21 PM The board is run by Katanga Boarders Post Company Limited which is a private company which makes the boarder a public-private owned. So some serious managements have been established behind this boarder and the sad part is most "commercant" saw this as a danger to pay taxes every entries, they decided to go into the parliament so they don't pay the taxes and a notable amount of them won the elections. This behaviour will cost us less taxes. I don't have the current exact amount of money that comes in but Moise said it is more than 80 million dollar a month so do the math and tell me why some SERIOUS Katanga developments haven't been endorsed? Good job Iloverdc! Good to hear that this border post is operated on the basis of Public-Private Partnership. This is the only way forward in the DRC. BUTEMBO21 January 16th, 2012, 06:22 PM Great job Mr ILOVERDC, I just wish Nord-Kivu gets decent governor (since Paluku will be no more) Kasindi Border post in Nord-Kivu can get a Peage and broder post like this. Kasindi is third after Kasumbalesa and Matadi Port. This border doesn't just supply NK, it supplies Province-Oriental , Maniema and S-Kivu as well. Although S-kivu needs one as well. preme3000 January 16th, 2012, 07:34 PM great pic ILOVERDC13, the building looks impressive, hope there are plans to complete the pavement area near the front. Great building regardless The building itself. http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m547/ILOVERDC13/IMG-20120103-01149.jpg Pius January 16th, 2012, 07:52 PM Great job Mr ILOVERDC, I just wish Nord-Kivu gets decent governor (since Paluku will be no more) Kasindi Border post in Nord-Kivu can get a Peage and broder post like this. Kasindi is third after Kasumbalesa and Matadi Port. This border doesn't just supply NK, it supplies Province-Oriental , Maniema and S-Kivu as well. Although S-kivu needs one as well. Why the NK provincial government does not take a leaf out of Katanga government’s book? The financing of such a project should not be problematic since any bank would be interested in entering such a venture because huge customs revenue is assured. BUTEMBO21 January 16th, 2012, 08:15 PM Why the NK provincial government does not take a leaf out of Katanga government’s book? The financing of such a project should not be problematic since any bank would be interested in entering such a venture because huge customs revenue is assured. That NK governor is . Thankfully he will no longer be governor. First, he sent a team to visit what Katumbi is doing a few years ago. don't know what happened after that. This guy hasn't even paved a single road in his province. Kasindi Border post makes lots of money third to only Kasumbalesa and Matadi. The guy is clueless. no idea how to run anything. He needs to go back to his teaching job. He seems very good in his profession. he has done a decent job there. Hopefully we get again the Legendary Konde Vila-Kiakanda who has just been reelected will get the the Governoship. (Although, i know it wont any easy for him due to political game between Him and the President on the province's military/rebel issues). ILOVERDC13 January 17th, 2012, 10:10 PM Iloverdc..can them deputes vote laws that have to do with the border. Such as taxes ? Yes they can vote laws. I doubt there is a law that says the deputees shouldn't pay taxes but there is a myth law that makes them not pay the laws. ILOVERDC13 January 17th, 2012, 10:18 PM Great job Mr ILOVERDC, I just wish Nord-Kivu gets decent governor (since Paluku will be no more) Kasindi Border post in Nord-Kivu can get a Peage and broder post like this. Kasindi is third after Kasumbalesa and Matadi Port. This border doesn't just supply NK, it supplies Province-Oriental , Maniema and S-Kivu as well. Although S-kivu needs one as well. With the much needed importation from China and India, the Kasindi border is a great great asset for the whole country. Let not forget the mines exportation from Kivu. The Kasumbalesa border wasn't built with the government money only, it is those investors who took the risk and now they are making millions. They should take another risk and go invest in Kivu even if it is not safe. ILOVERDC13 January 17th, 2012, 10:20 PM great pic ILOVERDC13, the building looks impressive, hope there are plans to complete the pavement area near the front. Great building regardless It is actually paved, it rained that day. They should keep investing on security. ILOVERDC13 January 17th, 2012, 10:25 PM That NK governor is another braindead . Thankfully he will no longer be governor. First, he sent a team to visit what Katumbi is doing a few years ago. don't know what happened after that. This guy hasn't even paved a single road in his province. Kasindi Border post makes lots of money third to only Kasumbalesa and Matadi. The guy is clueless. no idea how to run anything. He needs to go back to his teaching job. He seems very good in his profession. he has done a decent job there. Hopefully we get again the Legendary Konde Vila-Kiakanda who has just been reelected will get the the Governoship. (Although, i know it wont any easy for him due to political game between Him and the President on the province's military/rebel issues). Forget about everything else. Kivu needs a governor that can bring in Kivutiens pride, believes and faith. In my opinion Rwanda controls the kivus and the Kivutiens need to fight for their land before anything else. Broda-Man January 18th, 2012, 08:17 AM Yes they can vote laws. I doubt there is a law that says the deputees shouldn't pay taxes but there is a myth law that makes them not pay the laws. Okey. Thanks Broda-Man January 18th, 2012, 08:19 AM With the much needed importation from China and India, the Kasindi border is a great great asset for the whole country. Let not forget the mines exportation from Kivu. The Kasumbalesa border wasn't built with the government money only, it is those investors who took the risk and now they are making millions. They should take another risk and go invest in Kivu even if it is not safe. Yeah. I am sure the Kivu can generate as much as Katanga is doing .That province is is just... BUTEMBO21 January 18th, 2012, 08:58 PM With the much needed importation from China and India, the Kasindi border is a great great asset for the whole country. Let not forget the mines exportation from Kivu. The Kasumbalesa border wasn't built with the government money only, it is those investors who took the risk and now they are making millions. They should take another risk and go invest in Kivu even if it is not safe. Kivu politicians are so dumb. Instead of being in control of their provinces, all they think about is be stupid ministers in the Central Government. there is a need for a new Kivu leadership that must be Strong Federalists. Its the only way out. Mai-Mai are there fighting, but Kabila and his accomplices are fighting against the Mai-Mai. I don't need to go any further in details. |