Does anyone know the condition of Sheikh Zayed. I believe he is clinically dead and is being kept alive using life support systems


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I have heard of his grave condition, but I don't know anything else.

omg
didn't here anything about it yet.

he's the main ruler of ad, right?

He is the ruler of Abu Dhabi, and the president of the UAE. He founded the UAE.

What? When did that happen?

This news has been going round for the last few days, didn't want to put it on here just incase it turned out to be a silly rumour, so no one really knows what is going on.

Apparently they are keeping him on a life machine (or so the story goes) until Ramadan, when they will turn it off. It has something to do with him going straight to paradise if he passes on during Ramadan? Can any forumers shed light on that?

Remember its a rumour so it might be completely off, but loads of people have heard about it, so maybe there is something that is true about it

I heard the same thing from very realiable sources. They say they have him on a machine, but they are trying to figure out the political ramifications of him passing out. They are trying to figure out who will rule once he passes away so that their would be a smooth transition of power.

I really cant imagine what will happen to the uae and its people once he passes away i really havent seen any people love thier leader as much as the emirities love him. Inshalla he doesnt have to leave us because at these times we need more people like him!!

laaaaaaa this is not true is it :( :( :( I love sheikh zayed a lot. You know, in Bahrain, Sheikh Mohammed, uncle of the king and brother of the late emir, he's been on a machine for a long long time, and I've heard he's about 27 kg, it's just all about who'll inherit his wealth and other issues. Inshalla itgoom bil salama ya zayed.

^everyone loves Sheikh Zayed and I cant imagine how the UAE will function without him, he had everything so well under control.

rumers started last week and we heard about it last monday and the rumers have got more and more since then. Lets wait to see what happens but it will be a big blow for the UAE and there will be a long mourning period like when Sheihk Rashid passed away in 1992

this will be much much much worse that the sheikh rashid passing away man

Everyone is saying sources, rumours...from where? How do you guys know?

not surprising to keep quite about it, he is way richer than bill gates.

gee miss out complete on this type of news here
nothing filters down to oz ever

الشيخ زايد اهتم بشعبه واكرمه ووفر له الحياة الراغده الكريمة وحصل على حبه واحترامه والوفاء له

نسأل الله ان يطيل بعمره وان يلبسه ثوب الصحة والعافيه وان لا يريكم به اي مكروه


http://arabic.cnn.com/2002/earth_summit/8/27/uae.environment/story.zayed_uae.jpg.jpg http://www.khorfakkan.net/vb/attachment.php?postid=26604 http://ftws.net/aden/free/z7.jpg http://www.mashkoor.com/zayed_files/zpic_files/035.jpg http://www.mashkoor.com/zayed_files/zpic_files/056.jpg

does this mean khalifa bin zayed becomes president?

Where Is This News Coming From?

^youve never been to mideast have u? all news starts with rumors.

Some people on this forum, have said they got it from reliable sources? Where are they?

Strange people.

never hear any thing unless it starts as gossip

O Allah, Lord and Sustainer of mankind, remove his difficulty and cure him. You are the only One who cures. There is no cure but Yours. Grant such (complete) cure that leaves no trace of illness

This is worth a read, but with a pinch of salt

17th-10-2004

United Arab Emirates : The Question of Succession

A number of sources have told Stratfor that Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan, the ailing ruler of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), is close to death or has died. Like similar arrangements in many other monarchies on the Arabian Peninsula, the ruler¹s eldest son, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahyan, will succeed his father on the throne in the emirate of Abu Dhabi. However, because power is distributed among the president¹s various sons, a fight for the UAE presidency could break out within the royal family
- or beyond.


A Persian Gulf-based source told Stratfor late Oct. 14 that unconfirmed reports were circulating of the death - or near death - of United Arab Emirates (UAE) President Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan. The sources said Sheikh Zayed had been taken to a London hospital because of failing health. The source also suggested the president¹s entourage could be keeping his death a secret in order to claim the president died Oct. 15 - during the holy month of Ramadan. The consensus from various sources, however, is that the monarch is extremely ill and that discussions pertaining to succession have begun among his family in Abu Dhabi and the rulers of the six other emirates that make up the UAE federation. Given the Islamic religious culture in the Arabian Peninsula, which calls for a quick burial of the deceased, it is likely Sheikh Zayed clings to life and that rumors of his death began to circulate after his physician intimated the president had very little time to live. Sheikh Zayed¹s son, the crown prince of the largest emirate of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahyan, will succeed him as ruler of Abu Dhabi - and is expected to succeed him as UAE president. It is possible, however, that the presidential transition will not go as smoothly as the informal succession plan would suggest. Two of Sheikh Zayed¹s other sons, who are half-brothers - or even an outsider - could vie for the presidency. In fact, this presidential succession will be an historic event in the United Arab Emirates; Sheikh Zayed has ruled since the country was created in 1971. The crown prince is destined to follow his father as emir of Abu Dhabi and it is expected that he will assume the presidency of Abu Dhabi. That succession, however, is assumed under an informal agreement only. Abu Dhabi is the most powerful of the UAE¹s seven emirates - Dubai, Sharjah, Ra¹s al-Khaimah, Al Fujairah, Umm al-Qaiwain and Ajman - because of oil, which would explain why the country¹s Supreme Council has elected Sheikh Zayed as president for six successive five-year terms since 1971. But because the succession process is not written in stone, sources close to the UAE, in particular sources close to the ruling family, say there could be several contenders for the presidency. Stratfor examines the possible
scenarios:
1. Succession takes place in accordance with the established arrangement, and Sheikh Khalifa, son No. 1, takes over. He has a huge following of four major tribes in the west, south and east of the country and is considered extremely influential, though he is not as wealthy as son No. 3. That said, it is quite possible he would he be willing to sell the presidency in exchange for some other political and economic benefits. 2. Son No. 3, Sheikh Muhammad, becomes ruler. Commander of Abu Dhabi¹s armed forces, Muhammad has a Western education, a good command of the English language and personifies the United Arab Emirates interface with the Western world. We are told he is materially more affluent than Sheikh Khalifa and is considered more qualified to run the country. Although he controls the police, army, intelligence and the ports, he has only about half the supporters of son No. 1. Would he make an offer of money for the post? 3. Son No. 2, Sheikh Sultan, succeeds his father. Sultan is well loved and widely respected by the people of the United Arab Emirates. However, two terrible automobile accidents some 25 years ago slowed him down, though he is not handicapped. He could possibly become president in name with son No. 3 as his deputy. This system is in play in the emirate of Dubai, where there is a nominal leader, but real power resides with his deputy. 4. There is an outside chance Dubai also could make a bid for the presidency. Given its power as the second largest emirate - and the fact that UAE¹s prime minister and its vice president always have come from Dubai
- it could join with smaller emirates and become a contender. Sources in Dubai told Stratfor the wife of a lower-level sheikh says the wives and families have standing orders to go to Oman or elsewhere in case of Sheikh Zayed¹s death - because the power struggle could get ugly. 5. A more remote possibility is that Sheikh Zayed¹s grandson - who has been schooled in the West - is named president. There is one precedent for a move of this nature. When Sheikh Zayed came to power as ruler of Abu Dhabi in 1966, he managed to break with tradition and name his son as crown prince instead of his brother. He overcame the obstacle by co-opting senior members of the family into the government. 6. The most remote possibility is that Sheikh Sultan bin Mohammed al-Qasimi, emir of Sharjah, would offer his candidacy. Sheikh Sultan¹s tribe was the most powerful before the arrival of the British and the creation of the United Arab Emirates. In essence, the struggle for the UAE presidency is likely to be an Abu Dhabi family affair, possibly involving Dubai as well. The exact direction and extent of the power struggle remains to be seen.

Strategic Forecasting, Inc.
October 15, 2004

very intresting article

ya good article, hopefully it doesn't turn into a mess like it suggests, that is in the future. For now, god help out sheikh zayed.

Latest news ive heard is that he was in resuscitations room and now is out. source is from a friend who was told by Sheikh Hamdan Bin Mohammed Bin Rashid.

My unlces whose ambassador told my father that he will tell him about the big guy. but nothing as yet.


As for the article, Khalifa would be the ruler of AbuDhabi and Mohammed would by the crown price. i dont know who could be the prisedent of the UAE.

Hmm the whole thing sounds complicated. What happened in 1992 when Sheihk Rashid passed away? What was his position, and were there any power struggles etc?

Also, could someone clear this up for me - is it true about it being 'better' to pass on during Ramadan? Someone told me there wasn't really any thing like that in Islam, or..?

well that should be good news hopefully. But still, he could be out for two reasons, we'll have to wait and see, inshalla everything will be fine.

Hmm the whole thing sounds complicated. What happened in 1992 when Sheihk Rashid passed away? What was his position, and were there any power struggles etc?

Also, could someone clear this up for me - is it true about it being 'better' to pass on during Ramadan? Someone told me there wasn't really any thing like that in Islam, or..?

smussuw,what do you mean "out"? out of hospital i.e. ok or worse?

As i was told he is in the ICU. I dont know if it is better to pass on during ramadan despite being a holy month. Sheikh Rashid was the vice prisdent. We used to have our own army. (army for Dubai and another one for AbuDHabi). and he used to refuse building Al Khan in sharjah because it was owned to Dubai (as he said). and Abu Dhabi wasnt supposed to be a permentant capital now. They were supposed to build a capitla between Duba and AbuDHabi called Al Karama. After Rashid death they had the way to change things.

If all this is true, and I believe it is, think of poor Zayed. If they are really keeping him alive until thay stop squabling over who will sucseed him he must be very unhappy. He has done a great job of running the country that is my adopted home and I believe he should be alowed to go in peace.

Anyone live in abu dhabi?
PM me if you do cos have heard some rumours fom there today and would like clarification
Thanks

What does this mean for all the current ongoing projects all around Dubai?
I know there are some that don't like them, because it's all about attracting expats and not locals. Are any of the people that are expected to take over as president like this? In other words, will they cancel things like the Burj Dubai, The World, etc etc and try to 'dewesternise' the place somehow?

hopefully not!
good question
can anyone help?

I personally won't think that the new president can do much about the expat issue, atleast for the time being. Most of the work force is foreign, and to eliminate all of them now won't be helpful at all for the country. As a president, I don't think he'll hinder any projects in dubai, why should he. Plus, Dubai is its own entity under the umbrella of the UAE i.e. it a lot of ways, its functioning independently.

O Allah, Lord and Sustainer of mankind, remove his difficulty and cure him. You are the only One who cures. There is no cure but Yours. Grant such (complete) cure that leaves no trace of illness

Anyone has something new?

Anyone has something new?

nope, last week my friend got a sms (Sheik Zayed dead, couple of hours after government meeting they will announce it). We are still waiting for the annoucment :P. Maybe God help him.

Sheik Zayed is wisest ruler in the Arab world and he won’t leave his nation in trouble
What some people say about the ruling family in Abu Dhabi having some trouble is not true, and Sheik Zayed is in critical condition but not dead, and if he passed away Shaiek Khalifa will be the ruler no doubt .

I'm pretty sure this is a rumor, I pray that it is

why cant they just become a democratic country, why do they have to follow thier old ways to be monarchs, i know that sheikh zayed has done a lot for Uae, but dont u guys think its time that arab world has its first democarcy. I mean islamically speaking democracy is way better then monarchy, even Prophet Muhmmad (pbuh) said, that after him choose a leader amongst u. why cant the arab world follow that.

why cant they just become a democratic country, why do they have to follow thier old ways to be monarchs, i know that sheikh zayed has done a lot for Uae, but dont u guys think its time that arab world has its first democarcy. I mean islamically speaking democracy is way better then monarchy, even Prophet Muhmmad (pbuh) said, that after him choose a leader amongst u. why cant the arab world follow that.


Yeah ur right. the UAE is leading the Arab world in everything except democrecy. Am ok with the situation now though.

We Gulf states need no democracy we are happy like this and we don’t want forigners to interfer with our internal affairs, we don’t want to be another Iraq.

i used to go to school with loa al thani

which school did u go to

but dont u think the gulf leaders are corrupt because their monarchs, from democracy atleast the wealth is distributed equally. And yes agreed that west shouldnt interfere. but if should come from within. Look at saudi arabia for example the royal family is so corrupt, and waste money. they spend like 6 million dollars a day on shopping in spain

Well even so called democratic nations such as Turkey and Pakistan are corrupt. Examples are Tanso Chiller ex president of Turkey, Banazeer Boto, and Nawaz sharif of Pakistan are filthy thefts sucking money out of their pour people.

No matter if a country is a democracy or not, there is no leader out there who would pass a chance at getting richer will doing his job!!

I really dont think qatar needs an american style of democracy because there is alot of wealth to go around and a small population. But we do need serious accountablty both on the municipial and political levels.

how did u guys know so early, about this situation

why cant they just become a democratic country, why do they have to follow thier old ways to be monarchs, i know that sheikh zayed has done a lot for Uae, but dont u guys think its time that arab world has its first democarcy. I mean islamically speaking democracy is way better then monarchy, even Prophet Muhmmad (pbuh) said, that after him choose a leader amongst u. why cant the arab world follow that.


Well, u must remember , UAE is just over 30 yrs old, give it some time.
Plus, democracy isnt the answer to everything. Democracy works in certain situations, in others it simply can't