Please post related news here

Central station:

No. of platform - 12 (excluding 3 for suburban)
Opened - 1853
Intercity trains handled a day - 100+ Up and down services
No. of Intercity passengers handled a day - nearly 1.5lakhs passengers

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/ChennaiCentral2.JPG/800px-ChennaiCentral2.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Chennai_Central_interior.jpg/784px-Chennai_Central_interior.jpg

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai_Central

Moore market complex - MMC

No. of platforms - 3
Built - 1986
No. of suburban service operated daily - nearly 260 up and down service to Arrakonam suburban service and Gumidipoondi line
No. of suburban passengers handled - nearly 2.5lakhs passengers

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Chennai_Moore_Market_Station.jpg/800px-Chennai_Moore_Market_Station.jpg

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore_Market

Chennai Egmore

No. of platforms - 11 (including 2 dedicated for suburban)
Opened - 1908
Intercity service operated a day - nearly 50 up+down service
Intercity passengers handled per day - approx 75,000

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Chennai_Egmore_facade_panorama.jpg/800px-Chennai_Egmore_facade_panorama.jpg

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai_Egmore

Chennai suburban railway - map

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Chennai_suburban_rail_and_bus_interconnectivity_map.png/556px-Chennai_suburban_rail_and_bus_interconnectivity_map.png

source and further info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai_suburban_railway

Tambaram - Emerging as 3rd terminal for Chennai

http://i55.tinypic.com/244wtv6.jpg

source: newchennai.com

Tambaram - Emerging as 3rd terminal for Chennai
source: newchennai.com
Tambaram: Has 9 platforms.
6 platforms are Operational. (2 under BG Conv, 1 not used)
2 of them dedicated for Sub-Urban only (12 car).
Since: I am sure TBM is existing prior to 1930 (Year TBM-MSB operated).
If anyone knows exact year of commencement of this station, please post.

TBM has EMU Coach Shed (Dont know if this is the biggest in Chennai).

Like Central and Egmore, Bus Terminal (/stop) is just across the station.

Recently there was clarification from SR official that TBM is planned as "Coaching Terminus" and not a Terminal. What does it mean? After dispatching passenger in Egmore, the empty compartment come back to TBM for cleaning the debris? I feel this is waste. They can combine this with passenger travel also (if that is the case).

They can start extending selected North-East bound low profile trains to TBM. I think no one will have objection to this.

Why Royapuram is missed in the list? Dinamalar's pet station?

Why do we need this new thread? Can't we juzz stick to the MTC and suburban thread?

Why do we need this new thread? Can't we juzz stick to the MTC and suburban thread?

By popular Demand.

I would request guys to cross post relevant matters here. Then I can erase the Rail related posts from the old thread.- which will be mainly for MTC & Road transport.

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Kannan no need to erase from old thread. waste of time. just change heading, hereafter it can be followed

Chennai-Bengaluru-Ernakulam and Chennai-Hyderabad 300KMPH High speed trains PROPOSALS bills to be passed in parliament


சென்னை - பெங்களூரு இடையே அதிவேக ரயில் : பார்லிமென்டில் விரைவில் மசோதா தாக்கல்

புதுடில்லி : சென்னை - ஐதராபாத், சென்னை - பெங்களூரு - எர்ணாகுளம் மார்க்கத்தில் 300 கி.மீ., வேகத்தில் ரயில்களை இயக்கும் திட்டம் குறித்த மசோதா, பார்லிமென்டின் மழைக்கால கூட்டத்தொடரில் தாக்கல் செய்யப்பட உள்ளது.



பொருளாதார வளர்ச்சித் திட்டத்தின் ஒரு பகுதியாக துணை நகரங்களை அமைக்கவும், ரயில்களின் வேகங்களை அதிகரிக்கவும் முடிவு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஐதராபாத் - விஜயவாடா - சென்னை, டில்லி - ஆக்ரா - லக்னோ - வாரணாசி - பாட்னா, டில்லி - சண்டிகர் - அமிர்தசரஸ், புனே - மும்பை - ஆமதாபாத், ஹவுரா - ஹால்டியா, சென்னை - பெங்களூரு - எர்ணாகுளம் ஆகிய தடங்களில் 300 கி.மீ., வேகத்தில் ரயில்களை இயக்குவது குறித்து திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதற்கான அறிவிப்பை, மம்தா பானர்ஜி ரயில்வே அமைச்சராக இருந்தபோது பட்ஜெட்டில் அறிவித்தார்.



இந்த திட்டம், பொதுத் துறை மற்றும் தனியார் நிறுவனங்கள் கூட்டு முயற்சியுடன் செயல்படுத்தப்பட உள்ளது.
இந்த திட்டத்தை கண்காணிப்பதற்காக, "தேசிய அதிவேக ரயில் ஆணையம்' அமைக்கப்பட உள்ளது.
ஒன்பது உறுப்பினர்களைக் கொண்டதாக இந்த ஆணையம் இருக்கும். ஒரு தலைவர், எட்டு உறுப்பினர்கள் இதில் இடம் பெறுவர். திட்டக் கமிஷன், நிதித் துறை, இன்ஜினியரிங் துறை ஆகியவற்றை சேர்ந்தவர்களும், இந்த திட்டத்திற்கு நிதியளிக்கக் கூடிய நிறுவனங்களைச் சேர்ந்த நான்கு பேர் பகுதி நேர உறுப்பினர்களாகவும் இடம் பெற உள்ளனர். பொதுத் துறை தேர்வு வாரியத்தின் மூலம் இந்த ஒன்பது பேரும் தேர்வு செய்யப்படுவர்.



இந்த வரைவு மசோதா, சட்ட அமைச்சகம், நகர்ப்புற அமைச்சகம், நிதி அமைச்சகம், திட்டக் கமிஷன் ஆகியவற்றின் ஒப்புதலுக்கு அனுப்பப்பட உள்ளது. அதன் பிறகு, அமைச்சரவை ஒப்புதல் பெறப்பட்டு பார்லிமென்டில் தாக்கல் செய்யப்பட உள்ளது.இந்த அதிவேக ரயில் பாதை ஒரு கி.மீ., தூரத்துக்கு அமைக்க, 100 கோடி ரூபாய் வரை செலவாகும் என மதிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.



முதற்கட்டமாக, ஆறு தடங்கள் அதிவேக ரயில் பாதைக்காக அடையாளம் காணப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதில் மூன்று பாதைகள், வெளிநாட்டு ஆலோசனை நிறுவனங்களின் உதவியுடன் ஆய்வு செய்யப்பட்டு வருகிறது

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=321838

^^

the phote with above picture :lol::lol:

http://img.dinamalar.com/data/large/Tamil_New_large_321838.jpg

^^ Hahaha what irony.

None of these corridors will benefit TN in any big way, right??

Chn -Hyd is fully for AP's benefit..

And the alignment proposed by centre for Chn- Bang corridor also doesn't pass thro' TN much.

some comments in Dinamalar! time to relex...

1. நம்ம நாட்டுக்கு இது எல்லாம் ஒத்துவராது;;;60 KM /hours வேகத்தில் போய்யே பல விபத்துகளை சந்திக்க வேண்டி இருக்கிறது;;;;;நம்ம நாட்டில் ரயில்வே ட்ராக்கில் ரயில் மட்டும் போனால் ஓகே;;;;;இந்த ட்ராக்கில் ஆடு, கோழி, மாடு, நாய் மற்றும் மனிதர்கள் தான் அதிகமாக நடந்து செல்கிறார்கள்:lol:;;;பிறகு எப்படியா இந்த 330 KM வேகத்தில் ரயிலை ஓட்டமுடியும். என்ன செய்வது எல்லாம் ஆண்டவன் செயல்.

2. ஓகே. இன்னும் நாப்பது வருஷம் கழித்து கண்டிப்பா ரயில் விடப்படும்.

3. சென்னை டு மதுரை அதிவேக ரயில் எப்பொழுது ? தென் தமிழ் நாடு என்று ஒன்று இருக்கிறது .....தேர்தல் சமயத்தில் மட்டுமே தென் தமிழ்நாடு அரசியல் வாதிகளுக்கு தெரியும்

4. தினமலர் சார் இந்த ரயிலு மூஞ்சிய பாத்தா மணிக்கு 30 கிலோமீட்டர் வேகத்துக்கு மேல போவுமானு சந்தேகமா இருக்கு...கிகிகிகிகி....எதுவும் காமடி கீமடி பண்ணலையே!!!!! :lol::lol:

5. காமெடி பண்ணாதீங்க பாஸ்! 60-80 கீமி வேகத்தில போகும்போதே இடிச்சிக்கிட்டு ஒரு வண்டி மேல இன்னொரு வண்டி ஏறி நிக்குது இதுல 300கீமி பத்தி பேச்சு வேற...தண்டவாளம் வேற அங்க அங்க அடிக்கடி வாய போலந்துக்குது:lol:. வளர்த்த நாடுகள்ல இருக்குற மாதிரி இன்னும் track கூட போடா தெரியாம இருகுரானுங்க. இவேய்ங்க இப்போ வச்சிருக்குற நாத்தமடிக்கிற,பாதுக்காப்பு இல்லாத தகர டப்பாவுல 120 தாண்டுனாலே பரலோகம் தான்

6. சூப்பர் அண்ணா, நல்ல படம் காட்ட வேண்டாம், போதும் உன் நாடகம்:lol:

3. சென்னை டு மதுரை அதிவேக ரயில் எப்பொழுது ? தென் தமிழ் நாடு என்று ஒன்று இருக்கிறது .....தேர்தல் சமயத்தில் மட்டுமே தென் தமிழ்நாடு அரசியல் வாதிகளுக்கு தெரியும்



Appadiye track ellam pottu, test run mudichalum ethavathu jolnapaikaran illa samiyar solratha kettutu unnaviratham irunthu traina odavidama chenjiduvanga. Ippo theriyuthu yen IT companiyellam antha pakkam pogamairrukanunga.

Duranto train the fastest train in TN runs all around TN to reach madurai in the maximum possble time. Good they didnt say Duranto will reach Madurai in 36 hours running non stop via coimbatore, Kerala, kanniyakumari.

Appadiye track ellam pottu, test run mudichalum ethavathu jolnapaikaran illa samiyar solratha kettutu unnaviratham irunthu traina odavidama chenjiduvanga. Ippo theriyuthu yen IT companiyellam antha pakkam pogamairrukanunga.

+1 most of the people dont know why they are doing it. In a TV news a person said if K'kulam comes up men will lose potency. So they dont want the plant. Some said they will not allow fishing for 100 kms if the plant comes up so they are protesting .

+1 most of the people dont know why they are doing it. In a TV news a person said if K'kulam comes up men will lose potency. So they dont want the plant. Some said they will not allow fishing for 100 kms if the plant comes up so they are protesting .

Srilanka is planning a nuclear power plant on the north eastern coast.Will the Indian fishermen protest.

+1 most of the people dont know why they are doing it. In a TV news a person said if K'kulam comes up men will lose potency. So they dont want the plant. Some said they will not allow fishing for 100 kms if the plant comes up so they are protesting .

While travelling by bus from Nagerkoil to kudankulam I overheard a villager explaining the illeffects of Nuclear power plant on the neighbourhood.He said women will become widows because this plant will kill all men.there will be no procreation and all towns and villages will be without people in a decades time.The villagers gave a dirty look at some of the staff of the nuclear plant going in that bus.When they got down at one of the village stop they spit and vowed never to allow this plant to start and drive all the people from the township.People here talk as though they posses all the knowledge about nuclear fission more than the nuclear scientist but they mistake the radiation for some sort of virus which attacks only the male sexual part.:lol:

If it s true no kids will be born in Kalpakkam or Trombay

Link regarding Tambaram terminal : http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/tambaram-station-plan-hits-end-line-551

But what's the curent scenario ?

Link regarding Tambaram terminal : http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/tambaram-station-plan-hits-end-line-551

But what's the curent scenario ?

railways projects follows slow and steady wins the race formula. But it never wins the race!

Tambaram terminal would be built in a time line of 10-15years, but some useless media has spread false information that SR is going to stop all south bound trains at Tambaram (no need of blame media alone, this dumb suggestion is mentioned in master plan of CMDA).. so protest started for that. Now railways will take their own time and use this protest to delay the project further... so keep checking the news, ssc and other forums for next 20yrs, surely there would be progress.

MoSR AKM and Velu tried to expand Chennai central with 10more platforms, but looking at no developments in past years, I guess world class station promise and Central expansion are mere paper projects!

I guess world class station promise and Central expansion are mere paper projects!
these are useless statements from Lalu period onwards....just they are looting the money in terms of "STUDY"....
Lalu reaped the benefits of Nitish...and did nothing..
Didi turned IR to WBR...

Poor TN..

Thirumalpur-Arakkonam track electrification

Work on electrification of track between Thirumalpur and Arakkonam on the Chengalpattu-Kancheepuram-Arakkonam section will begin once the Vellore district administration hands over a portion of land to the Southern Railway, according to Deepak Kishan, General Manager, Southern Railway.

Talking to reporters here on Friday, he said the Southern Railway had identified a new route after the Navy objected to the electrification of the existing track which was passing adjacent to the INS Rajali air base.

New track

The new track would branch off the existing one and join the Chennai-Bangalore sector on the western-side of the Arakkonam junction.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article2502294.ece

This is a decade old project... still hopeless and looks it will take another one decade:lol:

If this project is completed EMU trains can go for circular service from Beach to Beach via Perambur, Avadi, Arrakonam, Kanchipuram, Chengalpattu, Tambaram, Egmore... but it gets least importance from SR.:bash:

Chennai Beach - Tambaram Timetable : http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/archive/00810/Chennai_Beach-Tamba_810719a.pdf

Tambaram - Chennai Beach Timetable: http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/archive/00810/Tambaram_-_Chennai__810720a.pdf

Beach - Velachery MRTS Timetable: http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/archive/00810/Chennai_Beach_-_Vel_810721a.pdf

Thirumalpur-Arakkonam track electrification

Work on electrification of track between Thirumalpur and Arakkonam on the Chengalpattu-Kancheepuram-Arakkonam section will begin once the Vellore district administration hands over a portion of land to the Southern Railway, according to Deepak Kishan, General Manager, Southern Railway.


If this project is completed EMU trains can go for circular service from Beach to Beach via Perambur, Avadi, Arrakonam, Kanchipuram, Chengalpattu, Tambaram, Egmore... but it gets least importance from SR.


A Circular Service would be truly spectacular and this route would be an ideal candidate . Dedicated EMU Lines from Tambaram -Chengulpet would truly complement this .



:)

Bought smart card for Chennai sub urban services... I was skeptical that the machine will work. Awesome. It works in each time I went. So far I frequented park and Tambaram. Flawless, easy to use. Feeling shy when I walk away with ticket crossing lengthy queue. It costs only few bucks extra but worth. Wondering why it is not famous in chennai. I think SR hardly bothers. First I need to struggle a lot to get that (of course if you don't even know about it, obviously you will not look for where is it). The smart card issuing counter in Moore market treated me as if I had increased his work load (ennathu, card'a? Oru 15 nimisham wait pannu...). Luckily my temper I could control, waited and took card after 30min. If it doesn't work (in future), I will keep it as souvinier. I am sure it will one day.... Looking at the way it is placed every place...

Hope they improve (nothing wrong in hoping...)

Bought smart card for Chennai sub urban services... I was skeptical that the machine will work. Awesome. It works in each time I went. So far I frequented park and Tambaram. Flawless, easy to use. Feeling shy when I walk away with ticket crossing lengthy queue. It costs only few bucks extra but worth. Wondering why it is not famous in chennai. I think SR hardly bothers. First I need to struggle a lot to get that (of course if you don't even know about it, obviously you will not look for where is it). The smart card issuing counter in Moore market treated me as if I had increased his work load (ennathu, card'a? Oru 15 nimisham wait pannu...). Luckily my temper I could control, waited and took card after 30min. If it doesn't work (in future), I will keep it as souvinier. I am sure it will one day.... Looking at the way it is placed every place...

Hope they improve (nothing wrong in hoping...)

To issue one smart card it takes 30 mins what a shame.In mumbai the counter clerk issues 7 cards in 30 mins without a murmur.This must be the reason why it is not only unpopular but not advertised by SR owing to its lethargic staff.

Chennai - Sulurpet line timetable
http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/files/1309842284804-MAS-SPE%20PTT%2011-12.xls2.pdf

Sulurpet - Chennai

http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/files/1309842284804-MAS-SPE%20PTT%2011-12.xls2.pdf

Chennai - Tirutanni

http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/files/1309841343218-MASMSB-TRT%20JULY%2011-12%20%20UP%20AND%20DOWN.pdf

Tirutanni - Chennai

http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/files/1309841760704-MASMSB-TRT%20JULY%2011-12%20%20UP%20AND%20DOWN2.pdf

For all other services

http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/view_section.jsp?lang=0&id=0,2,325

I don't know what makes people say its less crowded. Looks like they say all these since these sections are not covered by special programs in TV.

http://i.imgur.com/KJn3W.jpg

Original(bigger resolution) : http://v6.cache8.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/55654583.jpg?redirect_counter=2

CR:aadhi444,panoramio

^^ Lovely memories. TFS satish.

It seems that PF3&4 MG has been converted to BG, platform upgrades too almost complete. Awesome. Any idea when this gonna be opened?

With TBM level crossing being closed, trains from CPT don't have to wait at Irumbuliyur for Platforms and gate closures. Any ideas whats the status guys?

^^ Lovely memories. TFS satish.

It seems that PF3&4 MG has been converted to BG, platform upgrades too almost complete. Awesome. Any idea when this gonna be opened?

With TBM level crossing being closed, trains from CPT don't have to wait at Irumbuliyur for Platforms and gate closures. Any ideas whats the status guys?

No wlbkng, only platform portion has been converted to BG on PF3. Its not connected with any other line.

Northern side of PF3
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/197/57029454.jpg

Southern side of PF3
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4456/15547929.jpg

And PF4 works are yet to start.

And yes the trains are not waiting for the gate now. But trains wait some times for the availability of PFs.

^^ Nice snaps

No wlbkng, only platform portion has been converted to BG on PF3. Its not connected with any other line.

Northern side of PF3

Southern side of PF3

And PF4 works are yet to start.

And yes the trains are not waiting for the gate now. But trains wait some times for the availability of PFs.

Thanks for the info CP.

What are they gonna do by having tracks without connecting to main lines. Will trains do frog jumping from one station platform to another? Shows the sluggish pace of SR's working pattern.

Thanks for the info CP.

What are they gonna do by having tracks without connecting to main lines. Will trains do frog jumping from one station platform to another? Shows the sluggish pace of SR's working pattern.

The story on Chennai port and the railways in chennai evokes laughter.I have never come across such a stupid administration anywhere in my life.The biggest joke is the people take pride as good administrators.

The story on Chennai port and the railways in Chennai evokes laughter.I have never come across such a stupid administration anywhere in my life.The biggest joke is the people take pride as good administrators.

Even if they are mismanaged, etc etc we have those.:baeh3: Suburban rail is definitely not mismanaged

Thanks for the info CP.

What are they gonna do by having tracks without connecting to main lines. Will trains do frog jumping from one station platform to another? Shows the sluggish pace of SR's working pattern.

Didi gave only Rs 28 lakhs for Tambaram Terminal in the budget when it required Rs 8 crorers which is equal to one year revenue collection of this station.

If they complete all the platforms and pitlanes they can be used for trains heading north of Chennai and will be useful for South TN people

Bought smart card for Chennai sub urban services... I was skeptical that the machine will work. Awesome. It works in each time I went. So far I frequented park and Tambaram. Flawless, easy to use. Feeling shy when I walk away with ticket crossing lengthy queue. It costs only few bucks extra but worth. Wondering why it is not famous in chennai. I think SR hardly bothers. First I need to struggle a lot to get that (of course if you don't even know about it, obviously you will not look for where is it). The smart card issuing counter in Moore market treated me as if I had increased his work load (ennathu, card'a? Oru 15 nimisham wait pannu...). Luckily my temper I could control, waited and took card after 30min. If it doesn't work (in future), I will keep it as souvinier. I am sure it will one day.... Looking at the way it is placed every place...

Hope they improve (nothing wrong in hoping...)

Last time I saw (about 4-5 months back), the smart cards could be used only to buy single trip tickets and not season / monthly passes.

Lot of regular train users get monthly passes for which you still have to stand in the queue at least once a month.

Many people who buy single trip tickets are irregular users. The minimum card amount was Rs. 100 which may not be used at all. Plus all the hassles you mentioned in buying the card.

I've noticed the machine not working in many station. For one, i've never seen it work in Tambaram Sanatorium where I used to get down every day.

User friendliness is very important in any system. That is not the case here.

Yes, you are right. This should be extended for season tick.... But, that requires access entry etc., mmmm.... I think as you said this meant only for non-regular commuter like me. This by design not meant for reducing the counter office load...

Last time I saw (about 4-5 months back), the smart cards could be used only to buy single trip tickets and not season / monthly passes.

Lot of regular train users get monthly passes for which you still have to stand in the queue at least once a month.

Many people who buy single trip tickets are irregular users. The minimum card amount was Rs. 100 which may not be used at all. Plus all the hassles you mentioned in buying the card.

I've noticed the machine not working in many station. For one, i've never seen it work in Tambaram Sanatorium where I used to get down every day.

User friendliness is very important in any system. That is not the case here.

Yes, you are right. This should be extended for season tick.... But, that requires access entry etc., mmmm.... I think as you said this meant only for non-regular commuter like me. This by design not meant for reducing the counter office load...

I think if card purchase is done online, it will have more takers..

One can register and order for the smart card online. It will be delivered in two days.. (just for the start)

Then you can renew/top-up online.. And just print the tickets using the machine at station before your journey. Also season tickets shall be made available using smart card.

Concerns over daily delay of Chengalpattu-Beach fast local trains!

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maalaimalar

pic is mrts and not suburban

Bought smart card for Chennai sub urban services... I was skeptical that the machine will work. Awesome. It works in each time I went. So far I frequented park and Tambaram. Flawless, easy to use. Feeling shy when I walk away with ticket crossing lengthy queue. It costs only few bucks extra but worth. Wondering why it is not famous in chennai. I think SR hardly bothers. First I need to struggle a lot to get that (of course if you don't even know about it, obviously you will not look for where is it). The smart card issuing counter in Moore market treated me as if I had increased his work load (ennathu, card'a? Oru 15 nimisham wait pannu...). Luckily my temper I could control, waited and took card after 30min. If it doesn't work (in future), I will keep it as souvinier. I am sure it will one day.... Looking at the way it is placed every place...

Hope they improve (nothing wrong in hoping...)

this is the first positive review i am seeing on the automatic ticket vending machine. Good that atleast it is working fine at Tambaram and the station you have used.

The failure of ATVM - Automatic Ticket Vending Machine is

- non-availability, most of the time machine will not work
- Season ticket holders will not opt this! As it cost more than dead cheap season ticket.
- ATVM are not user friendly! It cannot be brought in every stations
- Poor advertisement by southern railway

b/w most of the amenities created by SR were mere scam and garbage

- Platform ticket vending machine - Flop system and it halted.
- Coins-Note change machine - Never works and the facility with drawn
- LED display for coaches, platform and train arrival/dep - only 50% it work
- ATVM - grossly under utilized
- Lifts/escalator - never works always at Egmore and MRTS stations

Just money is wasted on these amenities and helps oppicers to make money to their pockets!

Yes, you are right. This should be extended for season tick.... But, that requires access entry etc., mmmm.... I think as you said this meant only for non-regular commuter like me. This by design not meant for reducing the counter office load...

I think if card purchase is done online, it will have more takers..

One can register and order for the smart card online. It will be delivered in two days.. (just for the start)

Then you can renew/top-up online.. And just print the tickets using the machine at station before your journey. Also season tickets shall be made available using smart card.

Mumbai suburban introduced this long back. SR is the worst among all zones in IR, such online facility will knock our door some where in 2020.:lol:

b/w season ticket are main culprit for loss making of suburban ticket system in India. The system needs to be made as costly as regular travel ticket fare, then only system can be made access control and better station.

12lakhs people are using the suburban/mrts system in Chennai daily... even if the average spending of per person is 20 rupees, it should spin 850 crores approx per year! Suburban system can be upgraded in single shot!

(Note: Chennai railway division total passenger revenue is approx 1100crores with major share from express trains.. suburban revenue is very less due to less seasonal ticket!!... how grossly the suburban potential is under utilized by IR management...:bash:)

but spineless IR ministry will never do that... and protestors will block trains as if the suburban system is used by jobless people and beggers only.

Indian Railways will never learn anything. :bash:


Thank god, Mamta Banerjee moved back to Kolkatta , so there is hope

Mumbai suburban introduced this long back. SR is the worst among all zones in IR, such online facility will knock our door some where in 2020.:lol:

b/w season ticket are main culprit for loss making of suburban ticket system in India. The system needs to be made as costly as regular travel ticket fare, then only system can be made access control and better station.

12lakhs people are using the suburban/mrts system in Chennai daily... even if the average spending of per person is 20 rupees, it should spin 850 crores approx per year! Suburban system can be upgraded in single shot!

(Note: Chennai railway division total passenger revenue is approx 1100crores with major share from express trains.. suburban revenue is very less due to less seasonal ticket!!... how grossly the suburban potential is under utilized by IR management...:bash:)

but spineless IR ministry will never do that... and protestors will block trains as if the suburban system is used by jobless people and beggers only.

CAG has blamed IR for such low fares of trains in India and rejected future Central Government funding for IR, if it is still not increasing the fares. Also, Railways is under huge pressure to increase the fares and accumulating losses. Fares of passenger trains in India are the same for almost two decades.

Members can correct me if I am wrong.

To the definition of MRTS, Calcutta Metro is first MRTS in the country and Chennai should be second. Therfore Delhi 3rd and Bangalore 4th in operational. Just that Chennai is named as MRTS (instead of Metro), does not mean that credit shouldnt be taken. Only thing that anyone argue is MRTS shares the 'ticketing' with rest of sub-urban operation in Chennai. But that is one lament execuse I feel. Complete track and infrastructure is independent (oen may still point stations like Fort, common foot over path etc... but does that matter?)????

Mumbai suburban introduced this long back. SR is the worst among all zones in IR, such online facility will knock our door some where in 2020.:lol:


12lakhs people are using the suburban/mrts system in Chennai daily... even if the average spending of per person is 20 rupees, it should spin 850 crores approx per year! Suburban system can be upgraded in single shot!

(Note: Chennai railway division total passenger revenue is approx 1100crores with major share from express trains.. suburban revenue is very less due to less seasonal ticket!!... how grossly the suburban potential is under utilized by IR management...:bash:)



^^

I agree . Like Mumbai , Chennai has got an extensive suburban system running in 3 different directions , 4 including MRTS but there ends the similarity . The following are some of the positive things that we could look at from Mumbai

1) Dedicated Lines for both Slow and Fast locals making them reliable and on time
2) BEST Feeders to stations
3) Stations are well maintained
4)Mumbai Seasonal tickets are currently available online for purchase at the Indian Railyway site
5)In certain stations in Navi Mumbai they even have IT parks and office spaces right adjacent to the train complex making it much more easirer to commute.


We need the following


1)Dedicated lines all the way from Beach - Chengulpet so that we do not have to share the load with passenger trains
2) Better MTC services to stations
3) MRTS Stations are gossly underutilized and dilapidated .They need to be handed over to a private contractor for better maintenance.
4)I think the Smart card issue may be solved once CMRL comes in and introduces a unified ticketing scheme for all modes of travel .


Once STM becomes a hub the ridership and load on MRTS and suburban can increase so much that they could start choking with out proper management . I think they need to get their act together before these hubs are formed and Metro becomes operational.


:cheers:

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Source: Dinamalar, Chennai edition, dated 16-Nov-2011 (http://www.dinamalar.com/district_detail.asp?id=349903)

Translation:

History of Royapuram Station:

Trains arrived at Chennai in 1856. Royapuram was the first station in chennai
After that, for 17 years, Royapuram was only station in Chennai
In 1871, Central was constructed. After that, North bound trains started from Central, while south bound trains started from Royapuram.
Soon, the cargos from Chennai harbour increased and as a result, egmore station was opened in 1907 for south Bound trains
Soon, the cargo terminal services moved to Korukkupet. As a result, royapuram lost its significance
In 2006, some sections of the station land were leased for private Fertilizer and Cement storage.
Due to the protests that resulted, the government announced the setting up of engine maintenance facility in royapuram station lands, in 2007. An amount of Rs 15.5 Crores was alloted for that.
Then mninster Velu, also announced that some North bound trains will be operated from Royapuram. but all these have remained in paper.


Request to make royapuram as third terminal

Now, the 'TamilNadu rail Passengers Rights Protection Organization' has requested that Royapuram be converted to the third Terminal instead of the proposed Tambaram.
Many northbound trains from Egmore, already go only via Royapuram. They can start from royapuram itself.
Royapuram station has more than 72 acres of land available and can be made bigger than Central and egmore
There is already links from royapuram to Egmore and Central


Reasons given By southern Railways against Royapuram:

Royapuram station is between 2 flyovers
It is near Harbour
There are lot of branch Roads around the station
There are lot of tall buildings like stanley hospital around the station
right now, engine Maintenance shed is being built there
For a rail terminal, a length of 1200 metres and adequate width is needed
No place available for parking and maintenance of trains


The agitators have given responses for each of above points:

Egmore station is also between two flyovers and the length between them is only 925 metres
Harbour is not a hindrance. It 'll be beneficial for people going to harbour.
The branch roads will only help passengers
Tall buildings will affect only airports. Why train station?
Why is an engine maintenance shed needed in center of city. The existing one in Arakonam can be expanded. Or the land at Cochraine basin can be used.
Central with 12 platforms is only 950 metres long. Egmore with 9 platforms is only 750 metres long. But royapuram has space for 16 platforms and is 1015 metres long by 420 metres wide.
There are lots of land available near Sathyamurthi nagar in Korukkupet for establishing train maintenance sheds.

^^

The city is expanding in south and not in center. Egmore and Central both are situated in central Chennai. When other cities like Bengaluru/Hyderabad creating their new terminals in city border another terminal in central Chennai will only create more congestion on those steets of george town.

Tambaram should be developed at any cost. But at the same only new trains needs to be started from here and not terminating the operational south bound trains. Royapuram will only create more congestion in and around central, egmore and george town.

^^

The city is expanding in south and not in center. Egmore and Central both are situated in central Chennai. When other cities like Bengaluru/Hyderabad creating their new terminals in city border another terminal in central Chennai will only create more congestion on those streets of George town.

Tambaram should be developed at any cost. But at the same only new trains needs to be started from here and not terminating the operational south bound trains. Royapuram will only create more congestion in and around central, egmore and george town.


^^


Tambaram would definitely be a boon for South bound Trains and would serve to decongest Egmore . Now may be Royapuram could serve to play a similar role for North bound trains and EMU's and decongest Central . This might mean strengthening the link between Egmore ,Central and Royapuram

If you notice Mumbai has a similar set up for West Bound and South bound trains . West bound traffic is shared by 2 stations (Mumbai Central and Bandra). South bound traffic is shared by CST and Kurla .

:)

Royapuram could be converted to a container transhipment station for concor considering it being just 200 m away from DP CCT. Would go a long way in reducing congestation at CCT. The current goods terminal at Periyampet behind JN stadium could be converted to as an extension for Central with Bengaluru Thirupathy jolarpet express starting from here.

Egmore should remain as the main entry point for trains from South. Otherwise Railways will start using it mainly for North bound trains.

This will be against the interests of locals settled in Chennai.

Incoming Trains from East,North East shall be terminated at Royapuram. Central shall be reserved for main trains from Delhi,Bombay,Bangalore,Coimbatore/Kerala.Hydrabad.

Decongesting the City and providing connectivity to the terminals even if they are outside are the immediate needs.

Is Tambaram station ready to take the load of Egmore.? I doubt. They should not shift till the infra at Tambaram is improved.

Royapuram as a passenger terminal is not very advisable. Very apt for container Terminal.

They should develop Villivakkam for west bound trains, Tambaram for south bound trains, Central for North bound trains and Egmore can supplement for non regular trains, service yards, freight trains while idle and local suburban trains.

^^

Further if Royapuram needs to be developed, the flyovers near the station needs to be demolished, loco shed needs to be shifted and storage yard needs to be removed.

Tambaram can act as terminal even for Bangalore/Mumbai/Coimbatore bound trains.

In 10years Chengalpattu-Vridhachalam section will be doubled,

* Apart from adding many trains to central, delta and sout TN, trains to western TN can be introduced via Vridhachalam, Attur

* Trains to Bangalore/Mumbai can start from Tambaram and travel via Chengalpattu (nearest hub for OMR/ECR hub), Walajabad, Kanchipuram (nearest station for upcoming residential areas around SRPD/Oragadam) to Arrakonam.

Tambaram terminal has lot of advantage for growing Southern part of Chennai.

Some useless media like Dinamalar has spread false information that existing trains like Vaigai, Pandian, Nellai is going to be terminated at Tambaram, this has sparked the protest from south TN. So they don't want to develop Tambaram terminal.... after Sethu, Koodankulam, this is the 3rd project mis-guided the people by media/organization people.:bash:

Yeshwanthpur, Kacheguda etc., are far from city and it is fueling the growth.. intha veena ponna railways tamilnaduku project tharathey athisaiyam, ithula sontha kasula sooniyam vechikarathula nammala minja aal illai intha ulagathula.:nuts:

^^


Tambaram would definitely be a boon for South bound Trains and would serve to decongest Egmore . Now may be Royapuram could serve to play a similar role for North bound trains and EMU's and decongest Central . This might mean strengthening the link between Egmore ,Central and Royapuram

If you notice Mumbai has a similar set up for West Bound and South bound trains . West bound traffic is shared by 2 stations (Mumbai Central and Bandra). South bound traffic is shared by CST and Kurla .

:)

Everyone is confused that Tambaram is going to help only south bound traffic. No it is NOT!! Even SR's vision on developing Tambaram terminal is entirely different.

More than south, it is for Bangalore/Mumbai traffic or even North bound traffic to cateer the southern metropolis of Chennai.

In future this will push for Chengalpattu-Kanchipuram-Arrakonam doubling! Royapuram can only acts as museum station since it is claimed to be the first railway station of south India.

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Arul

good one. thats the cgl byepass we discussed some time back. hope sr does it. Let them complete, electrification, that can serve for emus, while tbm ones take this via diesel to ajj where electric locos can be changed if needed.

Nut ivanga modala tbm develop pannatum. See he amount in balance and allocation over yrs. looks like 10 yr project. The amount though is pittance and can be done as one time allocation.

^^



Yeshwanthpur, Kacheguda etc., are far from city and it is fueling the growth.. intha veena ponna railways tamilnaduku project tharathey athisaiyam, ithula sontha kasula sooniyam vechikarathula nammala minja aal illai intha ulagathula.:nuts:

Kacheguda station in Hyderabad is in the heart of Hyderabad like Egmore in Chennai.:)

See this another propoganda and protest which is against tambaram terminal...:bash:

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BJP etha vechi vote politics pannarathunu theriyala, athaan ithula mookai nulaikiranga pola.

BJP Opposed Tambaram to be the 3rd Terminal for Chennai :lol:

சாதாரணமாகவே கூட்ட நெரிசலாலும், போக்குவரத்து நெரிசலாலும் திணறும்போது, அதிகப்படியான பயணிகளால் தாம்பரம் பகுதி மேலும் கடும் நெருக்கடியைச் சந்திக்கும். இதற்கு மாற்று வழியாக, 72 ஏக்கர் பரப்பளவுள்ள ராயபுரம் ரயில் நிலையத்தை மூன்றாவது முனையமாக மாற்ற வேண்டும்.சென்ட்ரல் ரயில் நிலையத்தில் இருந்து 3.5 கி.மீ., நீளமும், சென்னையின் அனைத்து பகுதிகளில் இருந்தும், வந்து போவதற்கு சாலை வசதிகளும் உள்ள இடம் ராயபுரம். சென்ட்ரல் ரயில் நிலையம், 12 நடைமேடைகளுடன் 950 மீட்டர் நீளமுள்ளது.

ஒன்பது நடைமேடைகள் கொண்ட எழும்பூர் ரயில் நிலையத்தின் நீளம் 750 நீளம். ஆனால், 16 மேடைகள் அமைப்பதற்கு வசதியுள்ள ராயபுரம் ரயில் நிலையத்தின் நீளம் 1,015 மீட்டர். அகலம் 420 மீட்டர் என, விரிவாக்கம் செய்ய இடவசதி உள்ளது.ஆகவே, ராயபுரம் ரயில் நிலையத்தை மூன்றாவது முனையமாக மாற்ற வேண்டியும், எழும்பூர் ரயில் நிலையத்தை தாம்பரத்துக்கு மாற்றாமல், தொடர்ந்து இயக்கவும் கோரி, பா.ஜ., சார்பில் 25ம் தேதி மாலை 3 மணிக்கு மெமோரியல் ஹால் அருகில், எனது தலைமையில் தர்ணா போராட்டம் நடைபெறும்.இவ்வாறு பொன்.ராதாகிருஷ்ணன் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=353282

this is the first positive review i am seeing on the automatic ticket vending machine. Good that atleast it is working fine at Tambaram and the station you have used.

The failure of ATVM - Automatic Ticket Vending Machine is

- non-availability, most of the time machine will not work
- Season ticket holders will not opt this! As it cost more than dead cheap season ticket.
- ATVM are not user friendly! It cannot be brought in every stations
- Poor advertisement by southern railway

b/w most of the amenities created by SR were mere scam and garbage

- Platform ticket vending machine - Flop system and it halted.
- Coins-Note change machine - Never works and the facility with drawn
- LED display for coaches, platform and train arrival/dep - only 50% it work
- ATVM - grossly under utilized
- Lifts/escalator - never works always at Egmore and MRTS stations

Just money is wasted on these amenities and helps oppicers to make money to their pockets!
True.. the concept is good.but poor implementation because tenders are given to bad elements...
My family bought and it works every time.
My father comes once in a month from my native. He will avoid long queues.
So does my brother who lives in bangalore, visits chennai often.
Since he is having smart card, he saves lot of time...

Kacheguda station in Hyderabad is in the heart of Hyderabad like Egmore in Chennai.:)

likewise, yeshwantpur in bangalore is not some far away place, just 8 km from city station. tambaram is a good 30 km from egmore.

tambaram is far away and only reason i would think it needs to be developed into a terminal is if current terminals don't have capacity. otherwise, it is a bit like kalyan in mumbai. terminating trains at tambaram would be a problem for folks travelling to different parts of chennai city.

likewise, we need a similar large station where all west bound trains should stop. villivakkam is an ideal place but not sure if it has space for additional platforms. ambattur/some station near bypass might be good alternatives. kr puram in bangalore is a very important station where about 20% board and even more get down.

SR has lands in Villivakkam, Chetpet-Egmore, Tambaram, Central - Basin Bridge and Royapuram apart from Perumbur (ICF)

Isn't there anyway to de-congest the Irumbuliyur Sanetorium section? GST road itself becomes a 2 lane road just after irumbuliyur interchange. I believe there is a kalyana mandapam. Bottle neck starts there and goes all the way till sanetorium.

I thought of a plan

1. Develop Tambaram into a major rail terminal with a major entrance on east side.
2. Connect it with a proper road to Eat tambaram bus stand(old stand).
3. Divert the buses from Chengalpattu, Guduvanchery etc via east tambaram - Chitlapakkam main road and then rejoin GST road at MIT flyover. Crowd will also spread out and as well decongest Tambaram west side.

3. Divert the buses from Chengalpattu, Guduvanchery etc via east tambaram - Chitlapakkam main road and then rejoin GST road at MIT flyover. Crowd will also spread out and as well decongest Tambaram west side.

The areas in Chitlapakkam, East TBM, are 2 laned including Bharatamatha street and heavily congested. IMO, its unsuitable to handle traffic from GST road. It can handle bus traffic from Velachery road though.

If the monorail corridor becomes a reality we can take half the buses on this route off the road. We just need to connect the station with the east terminal gate properly.

If the monorail corridor becomes a reality we can take half the buses on this route off the road. We just need to connect the station with the east terminal gate properly.

Sorry I cant understand ur point. Monorail is from Vandalur proceeding towards Velachery and Puzhal. how come this will reduce the bus traffic from Chengalpattu/Guduvanchery proceeding mostly towards Anna salai/IRR?

Already there is this suburban system which could not manage the load on GST. If the suburban system frequencies beyond Tambaram are increased, that itself will be a plus in GST road. Taking the route inside east tambaram from GST road and joining back at MIT will increase travel time, congestion etc.

But, I agree that widening between Irumbuliyur-Sanatorium will reduce congestion. Especially, Irumbuliyur stretch of GST road should be expanded. It is one of the choking areas.

Ya. Nt much can be done. But buses from Vandalur is not needed at all. Monorail is enough. Buses from Guduvanchey and beyond could act as buffer.

Also once the monorail comes, mofussil buses could stop here itself and take irumbuliyur route permanently.

All EMUs from Beach to Tambaram should be extended till Chengalpet.

This dinamalar is totally againt Tambaram 3rd terminal proposal

likewise, yeshwantpur in bangalore is not some far away place, just 8 km from city station. tambaram is a good 30 km from egmore.

Indeed Yeshwantpur is far away place for South Bengaluru. It is good 19KM from BTM layout to Yeshwanthpur.

Yeshwanthpur was developed to cateer the north part of the Bengaluru metropolis considering the centre axis of the city as Majestic.

In Chennai, the major two terminals are located to north considering Nungambakkam as center axis of the city.

Though Yeshwanthpur is north, it does not mean that station is for north bound trains alone. Even trains to Chennai, Kerala, Pondicherry, Salem starts from there.

tambaram is far away and only reason i would think it needs to be developed into a terminal is if current terminals don't have capacity. otherwise, it is a bit like kalyan in mumbai. terminating trains at tambaram would be a problem for folks travelling to different parts of chennai city.

Tambaram is not for Chennai core city, it is for south part of Chennai like Velacherry, Chromepet, Pallikaranai, booming OMR, GST, Airport etc., So for those who have home at Egmore, Nungambakkam, Mylapore, Royapettai will feel/see that OH.. Tambaram very far station.. but that will not be the case for the areas mentioned former.

likewise, we need a similar large station where all west bound trains should stop. villivakkam is an ideal place but not sure if it has space for additional platforms. ambattur/some station near bypass might be good alternatives. kr puram in bangalore is a very important station where about 20% board and even more get down.

Villivakkam/Ambattur/Avadi does not have any land to build a new terminal. It is possible at

Annanur - for that EMU shed needs to moved to some where else

Anna Nagar - un-used station is there for long time, this can be converted into terminal, but TVS needs to give some land for conneting Arrakonam line with Anna Nagar, as of now only Perambur side is connected. And further this terminal may need land from ICF.

Central - Still huge parcel of land is available, more 15 PF can be constructed to raise the present 15 count to 30 PF. For this huge terminal to happen, some god father is needed for the project.

And this does not stop the need of Tambaram terminal which is much needed for booming south Chennai.

likewise, yeshwantpur in bangalore is not some far away place, just 8 km from city station. tambaram is a good 30 km from egmore.

tambaram is far away and only reason i would think it needs to be developed into a terminal is if current terminals don't have capacity. otherwise, it is a bit like kalyan in mumbai. terminating trains at tambaram would be a problem for folks travelling to different parts of chennai city.

likewise, we need a similar large station where all west bound trains should stop. villivakkam is an ideal place but not sure if it has space for additional platforms. ambattur/some station near bypass might be good alternatives. kr puram in bangalore is a very important station where about 20% board and even more get down.

Hello Sir,
Yeshwantpur may be 8km from Majestic but it has no connectivity from anywhere in the city (public transport). Whereas TBM is well connected both bus and train (EMU). So it is not same to compare. For me 30km more closer than travelling to YPR which is just 8km (actually takes 2+hrs if you go through busy MG road). TBM just take 35-40min from centre of the city (by train) and almost same time by bus (21G, 70, 18, 66 and 51 series). I dont know who the hell keep crying TBM is far. As long as you keep reading 8 Vs 30km no one will understand. Measure in terms of time and accessibility.

I have no objection to make RYP as terminal but I think TBM is more ideal than RYP.

RYP, as of now only 1series busses connect people form Centre and SOuth to RYP area. I have no clue what time the MSB-Avadi train passes through RYP (dont know its frequency). So, it will be either auto (paying 250Rs min) or by own transport to reach RYP.

Also please accept the fact that City is expanded. It is no longer Guindy which is the boundary.

Height of all, SR is tight lipped as if people are talking about some other entity. Noone is coming out to give clear picture to people.

In case RYP should be terminal, there should be a dedicated line connecting PARK, MAS and RYP with dedicated shuttle service operated every 5 min. Existing line (I think there is one unused line between from Basin Bridge and towards MSB) can be used for this. Or it can even connect MS (which was a paper project MS-MAS shhuttle). So in one go it shall connect MS-MAS-RYP. It should also have connectivity for Park, Park Town and Basin Bridge sub-urban stations. Epdi...? (irukkura thollai pathatha...? ippa innum onna...?).

Tambaram as southern terminal has a big plus. Pre-existing rail infrastructure. (as opposed to Ambattur/Avadi/Anna Nagar areas, where such a big land parcel is non existing near the railway tracks).

Tambaram terminal can add real value, when it gets connected to Sriperumbudur and beyond, say Arakkonam. This way the some of the west / north bound trains can be shifted to Tambaram. Unless Tamabaram gets connectivity with other areas, its effectiveness will be diminished.

RYP, as of now only 1series busses connect people form Centre and SOuth to RYP area. I have no clue what time the MSB-Avadi train passes through RYP (dont know its frequency). So, it will be either auto (paying 250Rs min) or by own transport to reach RYP.


Royapuram is well connected to other parts of the city by bus. BTW Royapuram is RPM rite?

All EMUs from Beach to Tambaram should be extended till Chengalpet.

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Four lane till chengalpet

Hello Sir,
Yeshwantpur may be 8km from Majestic but it has no connectivity from anywhere in the city (public transport). Whereas TBM is well connected both bus and train (EMU). So it is not same to compare. For me 30km more closer than travelling to YPR which is just 8km (actually takes 2+hrs if you go through busy MG road). TBM just take 35-40min from centre of the city (by train) and almost same time by bus (21G, 70, 18, 66 and 51 series). I dont know who the hell keep crying TBM is far. As long as you keep reading 8 Vs 30km no one will understand. Measure in terms of time and accessibility.

I have no objection to make RYP as terminal but I think TBM is more ideal than RYP.

RYP, as of now only 1series busses connect people form Centre and SOuth to RYP area. I have no clue what time the MSB-Avadi train passes through RYP (dont know its frequency). So, it will be either auto (paying 250Rs min) or by own transport to reach RYP.

Also please accept the fact that City is expanded. It is no longer Guindy which is the boundary.

Height of all, SR is tight lipped as if people are talking about some other entity. Noone is coming out to give clear picture to people.

In case RYP should be terminal, there should be a dedicated line connecting PARK, MAS and RYP with dedicated shuttle service operated every 5 min. Existing line (I think there is one unused line between from Basin Bridge and towards MSB) can be used for this. Or it can even connect MS (which was a paper project MS-MAS shhuttle). So in one go it shall connect MS-MAS-RYP. It should also have connectivity for Park, Park Town and Basin Bridge sub-urban stations. Epdi...? (irukkura thollai pathatha...? ippa innum onna...?).

Exactly..If we keep it in Tambaram, It will definitely help the city to grow more beyond that South strech..Also tambaram had enough space there..A main Transport hub coming 30 km away from the city is Excatly Chennai like metro Wanted!!:):hm:

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Ippadi camera / video camera vum kaiyuma alaiyareengale.

Vootla thitta mattangala ?

(unga photos naanga ellarum ensoy panrom than)

:lol: Evalavuthan thituvanga! Ippo ellam thitrathukum satharanama pesurathukum vithyasame theriyala! :nuts:.

:lol: Translation : How long will they keep on scolding! Now-a-days unable to distinguish scoldings from normal conversation! :nuts:.

In this trip, I didn't travel a lot on suburban trains but I can make the following observations,

1. Lots of ROBs constructed between Beach to Tambaram has definitely brought down the traveling time and has resulted in a smooth commute all along. :cheers: Yet, there are some level crossings which are going to stay the same for a few more years - the ones near Meenambakkam and Chrompet Vaishnava college.
2. Unlike many years ago, now you can see frequent services to Chengelput. That's like every other service is to this place and not Tambaram.
3. The cleanliness of platforms have greatly improved but the pedestrian bridges to the platforms are dirty in many places and flooded with vendors as always.
4. There are nice display boards with scrolling info on the next train arrival.
5. Although the crowds on the trains are same, the waiting time to get a traveling ticket in the ticket counters makes it appear that the crowds have increased.
6. The automated ticket vending machines (the ugly blue-yellow Indian Railways s**t) have been broken (literally broken) and nobody uses them. They occupy unnecessary space. :bash::bash::bash:
7. 12 car EMUs are very common.

Overall it felt good to travel on one of India's oldest suburban routes which is going great even after 80 years now!!! :cheers::cheers: These are the Metro trains of the bygone era.

Tambaram terminal looks massive and is surely bigger than many of the major train terminals in India for operating out-station trains. It can be easily converted into a 3rd terminal in Chennai for operating out-station trains. However there are few limitations.

1. BG tracks haven't been laid on platform 3 after the old MG tracks were removed.
2. Many of the platforms are unused or underused.
3. There are some 9 platforms right now with 2 of them dedicated for suburban traffic. There is room for 1 or 2 more platforms to be built.
4. Platforms operating out-station trains have decent coach markers but they need to be electronic for easy use.
5. Buses traveling out of the city come up to the entrance of the station thereby providing an easy hop on/off facility. But for people wanting to catch buses going towards the city, it is a very big hardship - they have to cross two long roads through a subway and walk a very long distance to the bus terminal. :bash: I see this as the biggest problem on why Tambaram cannot be used as a 3rd terminal. In Egmore, the bus stops are relatively nearby.
6. Although its not a terminal station, almost all trains stop here making it a good transit station at the edge of the city.
7. Platforms are a lot cleaner than it used to be. :cheers:

After all this is Indian Railways and lot needs to be done.

^^ CI, welcome back and thanks for sharing your experiences. Btw, when was the last time you were in Chennai before this trip?

^^ Many years :)

5. Although the crowds on the trains are same, the waiting time to get a traveling ticket in the ticket counters makes it appear that the crowds have increased.


The lines at the ticket counters have increased after the recent bus fare hike.

The lines at the ticket counters have increased after the recent bus fare hike.

But just for few months as in the railway budget for 2012 passenger fares are going to be hiked including for the suburban commuters

But just for few months as in the railway budget for 2012 passenger fares are going to be hiked including for the suburban commuters

But not as steep as bus fares. I was told the fare from Chengelpet to Tambaram is Rs 28.00 by bus and Rs 10.00 by train. Even after revision, train fare may go up by Rs 2 - 3 most likely.

Egmore to remain railway hub

The Egmore station will remain a hub of train services and there is no proposal to shift services to Tambaram, Southern Railway said on Wednesday.

The south-bound services will continue to originate from Chennai Egmore, the Railways stated in a press note in the wake of concerns that the bulk of train services would be shifted to Tambaram.

However, because of the growth potential being limited at Chennai Egmore, some of the additional trains introduced in future will originate/terminate at Tambaram, Southern Railway said.



http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article2736904.ece

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Perungalathur railway stn in makeover mode


The railway station in Perungalathur, some 30km from Chennai, is set to get a facelift. Southern Railway has begun renovation and expansion works, including extension of platforms.
The existing platforms will be extended to accommodate 12-car trains. “These platforms were laid during the British era when most trains had nine compartments. Currently, over 10,000 commuters use the station daily,” an official said. The extension of the platforms will help residents from Perungalathur and adjoining Peerkankaranai to have easy access to the station.

At present, the two platforms can accommodate only trains with nine compartments. All 84 suburban trains halting at Perungalathur have 12 compartments and commuters at Perungalathur refuse to board the last three compartments of 12-car trains and jam themselves in the remaining coaches, risking their lives.

Of the 17 stations on the 45-km Guindy-Chengalpet section, Perungalathur is the only one with platforms that can accommodate trains with nine compartments. “During rush hour, commuters push each other to get in or get off trains. Extending the platforms and building subways and foot overbridges are welcome steps,” said K Murali of Perungalathur.

Loss of lives between Tambaram and Vandalur, especially on the track in Perungalathur, is a big concern for the Railways, as on an average, at least five people are killed on the track each month in Perungalathur alone. Besides, a new rail line will be laid exclusively for express trains.

At present, the suburban service between Tambaram and Chengalpet is limited and suburban trains have to wait at yards at the Tambaram station to allow express trains to use the limited tracks available in Perungalathur. Commuters at many stations, including Perungalathur, are put to hardship.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOICH/2012/01/02&PageLabel=3&EntityId=Ar00302&ViewMode=HTML

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not sure how they can extend when there are railway gates at either ends of the current platform.

^^ They were telling one of those gates were going to be closed.. The one opposite to the aakash bhavan will be closed I think.

I am amazed by the moulded plywood seats in suburban trains. Even after so many years, they are good. Only, polishing is needed.

Compared to the cushion seats (with less quality Plywood inside) which have to be replaced often, these are ideal for our kind of people.

Even in Coimbatore Hotels, I have seen chairs made out of these Moulded Plywood. With Lumbar support et al. Fantastic.

I was told that even if they are exposed to atmosphere, they will not go bad for long years.

But the SG & CG have started restricting felling of trees for Plywood manufacturing. Plastics are slowly replacing.

I think SR can introduce the below mentioned trains from tambaram


Chennai Central- Kolhapur Via-Anantapur,Bellary
Porbandar- Chennai Central SF Exp Via- Kadapa,Pune,Kalyan,Surat,Rajkot

Also move the Kacheguda, kallinada, Guwhati express to tambaram. No south bound trains is required from tambaram

I think SR can introduce the below mentioned trains from tambaram


Chennai Central- Kolhapur Via-Anantapur,Bellary
Porbandar- Chennai Central SF Exp Via- Kadapa,Pune,Kalyan,Surat,Rajkot

Also move the Kacheguda, kallinada, Guwhati express to tambaram. No south bound trains is required from tambaram

Also a separate line to Pathankot which is tri-state border of Punjab, Himachal and Kashmir. Since only Jamu to Chennai serves that area which is not enough. Several apple vendors and dry fruit distritors would benefit.

What say folks? Naa common man (CM) na nalla sindhikarena?

January 6, 2012 By K. Karthikeyan & P.A. Jebaraj DC chennai

Southern Railway on Thursday started preliminary works for shifting south-bound trains to the Tambaram junction even as Chennaites were protesting against the proposal.

Divisional railway manager (DRM) Mr S. Anantharaman, assisted by ADRM Ms Usha Venugopal, undertook over an hour-long inspection at the station on Thursday morning assessing the requirements to make Tambaram the third terminal of Chennai.

To begin with, SR has decided to construct an escalator at the main entrance and another at the eastern side (facing Madras Christian College).

It was also decided to install common escalators for platforms 1 and 2 where passengers of suburban trains alight besides another one for passengers alighting from south-bound express trains on platforms 6 and 7, a feature already available at Egmore junction

Mr Anantharaman also instructed authorities there to expedite the gauge conversion (meter to gauge) works on platforms 3 and 4, which were started four years back.

With abundant space available, three additional platforms can be built to convert Tambaram station, which already has nine platforms, into a full-fledged third terminal of Chennai, railway authorities told this newspaper.

Thursday’s inspection was a feasibility study undertaken to assess the requirements for the terminal.

Less than a fortnight back, SR had clarified that it would only shift future south-bound trains to Tambaram and existing south-bound trains would continue to depart from Egmore junction.

The DRM and his team also reviewed the passenger amenities required for the terminal.

Pedestrian flyover in Nugumbakkam railway station collapsed - 4 Injured.

http://www.maalaimalar.com/2012/01/06142545/flyover-Stairs-collapse-in--Nu.html

Pre-feasibility studies on to put city on high-speed train map
Railways has identified six corridors for pre-feasibility studies for high-speed trains of which studies for four projects, including Pune-Mumbai-Ahmedabad, Delhi-Chandigarh-Amritsar, Howrah-Chennai and Chennai-Bangalore-Coimbatore-Thiruvanantha-puram, are already in process,” said A P Mishra, Railway board member (engineering).



Mishra was in the city to inaugurate a national technical seminar organised by the Institution of Permanent Way Engineers (India).



“Soon, Mumbai-Delhi passenger trains may ply at a high speed of 200 km per hour (kmph). Steps are being taken for enhancing the train speed. If things go as planned, trains will run at a maximum speed of 200 kmph in another five years, “ he said, adding, “A Japanese firm has undertaken a detailed study on upgrading the speed of the trains on the Mumbai-Delhi track and will submit its report for further decisions.”

“At present, the maximum speed of the trains in the country is about 120 to 130 kmph. Only trains plying on Delhi-Agra track travel at 150 kmph, which is the highest in the county,” he said. “Apart from this, steps are also being taken for overall upgradation of the operation speed of passenger trains in the country.”



“For increasing operating speed, a lot of things including up-gradation of overhead equipment (OHE), signalling system, less level crossings, fencing on either side of the track and more RUB’s and ROB’s need to done,” said Mishra.



Subodh Jain, general manager, Central Railway, hoped that best solutions will come out within the seminar for the betterment of high speed tracks and safety as well.

GM, Southern Railway and G C Agarwal, GM, Eastern Railway and Prashant Kumar, chief commissioner, Railway Safety were also present at the event.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/prefeasibility-studies-on-to-put-city-on-highspeed-train-map/896759/2

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Friends, can we move this thread under "Railways and Transportation" in the India thread? This way all railway updates will be in one place. We can definitely provide a link from the Chennai sub-forum.

http://elocos.railnet.gov.in/CLW/Allotment.htm
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Rlys to inspect 156-yr-old station to d'lare it 4th terminal


The Railway Ministry has ordered for a spot study and inspection of the 156-year-old Royapuram railway station in North Chennai for developing it as the fourth terminal in the city.

This follows a request by DMK MP T R Baalu, also Chairman of the Standing Committee on Railways, to Railways Minister Dinesh Trivedi on a plea from his party colleague and North Chennai MP T K S Elangovan and others, a release from his office said.

"In pursuance to the persistent demand, the Minister for Railways has ordered for this spot study and inspection by a team of officers, who will be inspect Royapuram station on January 20," it said.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/railways/rlys-to-inspect-156-yr-old-station-to-dlare-it-4th-terminal/articleshow/11553294.cms

Rlys to inspect 156-yr-old station to d'lare it 4th terminal




http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/railways/rlys-to-inspect-156-yr-old-station-to-dlare-it-4th-terminal/articleshow/11553294.cms

Same news in dinamalar as well. :rock:

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_detail.asp?Id=388996

Same news in dinamalar as well. :rock:

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_detail.asp?Id=388996

One more empty promise from C. Govt.They declared Tambaram as 3rd terminal with no money, same is being done for Royapuram as 4th terminal.

Now it is confirmed that Tambaram will be the 3rd terminal for Chennai

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2012/01/20/20120120a_007107008.jpg

No smooth track for third terminal at Royapuram

CHENNAI: Several substantial issues need to addressed if the Royapuram Railway Station is to be made into the city’s third terminal. After inspecting the station here to explore the possibilities of converting it into a full-fledged terminal, Executive Director (Coaching) of the Railway Board Mukesh Nigam told Members of Parliament, T K S Elangovan (North Chennai) and N S V Chithan (Dindigul), and? representatives of the local people that several issues were involved in it.

Nigam said the Electric Loco Shed had been functioning on Royapuram station premises for five years now and this may need relocation if the terminal is planned here. Pointing out that the railways had almost reached an understanding with the Chennai Port authorities over acquiring a portion of the port land for quadrupling the railway line, he said the railways had promised to part with its printing press premises within the Royapuram station complex in return. Also, a portion of the land is with Thirumalai Chemicals Limited.

“It is to be seen if they will part with the land,” he said, adding that an electronic weigh bridge owned by the railways also was in that area. “This area is a hub for heavy commercial vehicles. The subway that is coming up near Stanley hospital cannot accommodate big trucks. When we talk of a passenger railway terminal, heavy vehicular traffic may be a hindrance. This has to be seen,” Nigam said.

Indicating that the cramped low roof bridges like the one at Mannarsami Koil Street could pose obstacles, he said,? “Our rail passenger association friends want us to take a bold decision by pulling down the century-old bridge. All these need to be debated.”


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/no-smooth-track-for-third-terminal-at-royapuram/222815-60-120.html

Baalu meets Sonia for fund allocation

CHENNAI: DMK Parliamentary Floor leader TR Baalu has urged UPA Chairperson Sonia Gandhi to prevail upon the Union Government allot more funds to the State in the upcoming railway budget, considering the ‘snail pace’ progress of the ongoing railway projects here, on Friday.

According to a release, Baalu, who is also the Chairman, Standing Committee on Railways, met Sonia Gandhi at her residence in New Delhi in this regard, on the advice of DMK leader M Karunanidhi.

He also pointed out that the projects sanctioned to the State were on at ‘snail’s pace’ due to inadequate funding. Baalu had also requested Sonia Gandhi to advise the Union Cabinet to sanction some new railway projects including a fourth terminal at Royapuram in Chennai in the ensuing Railway Budget 2012-13.

In response, Sonia had also agreed to do the needful to the State to her best.

Baalu also requested the Union Ministry to sanction Rs 870 crore towards eight works which include doubling works between Tanjore- Tiruchy and Villupuram-Chengalpattu, Villupuram-Tiruchy-Dindigul, new lines between Mannargudi -? Pattukottai, and Vailankanni-Thirukuvalai-Thirutthuraipoondi, and construction of a third terminal at Tambaram.


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/baalu-meets-sonia-for-fund-allocation/222838-60-118.html

No smooth track for third terminal at Royapuram

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/no-smooth-track-for-third-terminal-at-royapuram/222815-60-120.html

Is it 3rd or 4th terminal? Why many of the modern day journalists have no idea of what they are writing about? I dont think that many of them do proper ground work of the news item they write with. So many errors and mistakes nowadays.

Is it 3rd or 4th terminal? Why many of the modern day journalists have no idea of what they are writing about? I dont think that many of them do proper ground work of the news item they write with. So many errors and mistakes nowadays.

To keep the protesters quite they have cleaverly mentioned RPM as the fourth terminal. But they location is not ideal for a large terminal. The people from Koyambedu or central or Egmore has to be at the mercy of the auto drivers to reach RPM.

The number of EMU services from Beach is very less to enable easy transfer from Egmore and Central.

Also there needs to be a large MTC bay to accomodate buses from various places , which is not possible.

The Goods unloading yard has to be shifted. The Loco yard has to be shifted.

Biggest problem is RPM being sandwiched between two bridges.

I would suggest a huge contioner yard and loading area for Chennai port. This will ease the burden on the yard. Move the EMU Yard from Beach and there are huge tracts of land available opposite the port. Convert Beach station as the 3rd terminal.

idea is to decongest city & central station means ideal location is villiwakkam which will provide easy access from all point of city. definitely royapuram is not ideal choice, it will be usefull only for north-south passing trains can halt there instead egmore.

idea is to decongest city & central station means ideal location is villiwakkam which will provide easy access from all point of city. definitely royapuram is not ideal choice, it will be usefull only for north-south passing trains can halt there instead egmore.

Let all train bound to north from Egmore /Tambaram halt at Royapuram thats it.
Terminal for royapuram will be wastage of money and will congest the already congested north chennai.

idea is to decongest city & central station means ideal location is villiwakkam which will provide easy access from all point of city. definitely royapuram is not ideal choice, it will be usefull only for north-south passing trains can halt there instead egmore.

Let all train bound to north from Egmore /Tambaram halt at Royapuram thats it.
Terminal for royapuram will be wastage of money and will congest the already congested north chennai.

Instead of exploring new terminal for chennai ...let them look down south for railway development which wld benefit TN purpose instead of targetting chennai and investing large amt of funds

Will Royapuram Station regain steam?

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The Royapuram Railway Station, which was once “Madras Central” station, today remains a shadow of its glorious past.

The 156-year-old station building, originally marked by arches, ionic pillars and high rise ceilings, is now covered in graffiti and in a state of disrepair. Access to the station is extremely restricted and many younger Royapuram residents even seem to be unaware of the existence of the station.

After the inauguration of India's first railway line in 1853, the Royapuram station was declared open by Governor Lord Harris in June 1856. On the inaugural day, two services – Royapuram to Ambur and Royapuram to Tiruvallur – were operated.

The station, the oldest in south India, resembled a Regency mansion in a quasi-classical style of the Renaissance Era. However, it lost its premier status in 1907 when the present Central Station became the city's main terminal point. With this, its decline began, even though the station, even now, is spread over around 70 acres of prime land.

Still, all is not lost. Of late, a renewed attempt is being made by sections of Royapuram residents for giving the station a fresh lease of life. These people feel that Royapuram can at least become the railway hub of north Chennai.

Thanks to their persistent efforts and representations to the Railway authorities, the Railway Board has formed a special committee to examine their demand. On January 20, the committee inspected the Royapuram station and it would present its report to the Board soon.

A.T.B. Bose, Co-convenor, Tamil Nadu Rail Passengers' Right Tribune (TNRPRT), points to the availability of open space that the railway station has. Strongly arguing that the station can be converted into the hub of north Chennai, he says that his organisation has done a comparative study of the availability of space in several railway stations in the country.

Royapuram ranks second in space availability with 2,46,000 square metres, next to the Howrah station in Kolkata. There are other factors supporting the revival of Royapuram such as the location of the station at the heart of the expanded Chennai Corporation. As the erstwhile northern municipalities of Manali and Kathivakkam are now part of the Corporation, Royapuram, if made the hub, would be closer to people in these areas than Tambaram on the southern outskirts.

About 10 years ago, a bid was made to revive the Royapuram station. It led to the renovation of the station at a cost of Rs.35 lakh. Addressing a function to mark the inauguration of the renovated station in October 2005, Union Minister of State for Railways R. Velu said that railway engineers, during their restoration work, had taken care not to alter the heritage features of the building. “After that nothing was done. Several other buildings on the station premises are in a neglected condition,” says a resident V. Gopalakrishnan.

Historian K.R.A. Narasaiah says that any restored heritage building should be put to proper use and should not remain a museum piece. “When they [Railway authorities] can maintain old railway engines, why not a building?” he wonders, adding that the Justice Padmanabhan committee, constituted by the State Government, has identified Royapuram station one among the 800 heritage structures.

An official of the Southern Railway says that all details have been furnished to the committee. If Royapuram is to be made a passenger hub, major changes are required. More buildings need to be constructed. Additional tracks and platforms too are necessary. All these involve a huge investment.

Would Railway Minister announce in this year's Budget the revival of the Royapuram station? This question is of great importance to the residents of north Chennai.



http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article2869758.ece

[QUOTE=murlee;88332047]Will Royapuram Station regain steam?

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Few years back they renovated the station by spending crores. Look at the status now.

The railway unions ad sucks.....:bash::bash::bash:

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Speed restriction imposed by Rangarajapuram RoB construction removed...
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Common ticket for bus-rail soon in Chennai

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/common-ticket-bus-rail-soon-chennai-569

Soon Chennaiites will be able to travel in city buses and suburban rails with a common ticket. After a long lull, the state government has set the Chennai unified metropolitan transport authority (CUMTA), an initiative to facilitate seamless commuting for Chennaiites, in motion.

Among the functions of the CUMTA is the regulation of measures to integrate all public mass passenger transport modes through routing, scheduling and operating feeder services, besides running combined or common ticketing.

Though the project got the Assembly approval as early as 2010, it was put in the backburner for long. However, it was revived on Thursday with officials of various agencies involved in planning, providing operations and managing the transportation system meeting for the first time in Secretariat.

“The main objective of the opening meeting was to take a decision on macro issues like how quickly CUMTA could be operationalised.

It has been decided to constitute an executive committee headed by Chief secretary to ensure effective execution of the policy decisions taken by the CUMTA that has transport minister as the head and top officials of various public transport and planning agencies as nominees,” highly placed sources in the government told DC.

The executive committee would also address key coordination issues between rail and bus transport, they added.

The panel also agreed to adopt the recommendations of the ‘Chennai comprehensive traffic and transportation study’ (CCTS) conducted by CMDA as the comprehensive transport plan for CUMTA. “CCTS, as a fallback arrangement, would be used to address the planning and development of all public passenger transport modes and related infrastructure,” sources added.

The CUMTA team also has 14 other official nominees, including secretaries of finance, home, transport and urban development and Southern Railways.

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Common ticket for bus-rail soon in Chennai



25-30yrs is soon??

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I remember there was an announcement in 2011 budget saying all TBM EMU's would be extended to CGL. With Perungalathur becoming the entry & transit point for south Chennai these services would immensely benefit Guindy - Tambaram people. Do IR/ SR remember that or they think it will vanish in thin air? I hope they need to be reminded about this with a RTI or PIL.

Ramesh

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No, I don't remember such announcement.

There are 4 tracks all the way from Egmore to Tambaram, but only two tracks b/w Tambaram to Chengalpattu.

So all trains can never be extended to Chengalpattu unless 3rd line is converted to BG and 4th line is laid.

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No, I don't remember such announcement.

There are 4 tracks all the way from Egmore to Tambaram, but only two tracks b/w Tambaram to Chengalpattu.

So all trains can never be extended to Chengalpattu unless 3rd line is converted to BG and 4th line is laid.

How is the BG conversion going on? I thought it should have been over by now.

How is the BG conversion going on? I thought it should have been over by now.

GC should first started to be completed. Still the MG sleepers are not removed beyond perganlathur .

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No, I don't remember such announcement.

There are 4 tracks all the way from Egmore to Tambaram, but only two tracks b/w Tambaram to Chengalpattu.

So all trains can never be extended to Chengalpattu unless 3rd line is converted to BG and 4th line is laid.

there was such announcement.. I still remember Mamtha didi announced that :)

Kindly refer here (http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/more-local-trains-to-chug-in/251421.html)

To know suburban train arrival and departure status sms station name to 9688139139. Works for stations in Beach- Tambaram and Beach - Velachery line.

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GC should first started to be completed. Still the MG sleepers are not removed beyond perganlathur .
Correct. Noticed the same recently. BTW I don't think we have done even basic work to start laying 4th line...

So 4 track till Chengulpet should be another 5-7 years ?? away...

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friends,
any updates on Pallavaram flyover and Chrompet Radha nagar subway? i think this both completes closure of LLC in Egmore-Tambaram

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Superb, I always wondered why all major cities in India does not have Bus/Train maps....you can overcome sort of language barriers / Auto wallah's issues...and mainly we can easily visualise the place to visit...

^^ I think its Planemad's..

^^ Yes, it is PlaneMad's (https://profiles.google.com/arunganesh03/about)

Skywalk soon to be reality


The much-awaited skywalk, an elevated walkway exclusively for pedestrians, connecting the Central and Park railway stations, will soon become a reality.

The state highways department is all set to appoint a consultant for preparing a detailed project report for the skywalk project. “After scrutinising the bids submitted by the consultancy firms, we will appoint a consultant in a weeks time,” said a senior highways official.

The nearly 1-km-long walkway along EVR Periyar Salai will have escalators at entry and exit points of Central and Park stations, Madras Medical College and Evening Bazaar Road. Besides escalator, the skywalk will have ramp for the benefit of the elderly and physically challenged people.

The skywalk, which is estimated to cost over Rs30 crore, will be the first of its kind to come up in the city. However, cities like Mumbai and Bengaluru, have skywalks.

The walkway would not only discourage jaywalking along the stretch of the arterial road but also provide a safe passageway for pedestrians. “During peak hours there is a heavy rush of commuters through the existing subways. Sometimes there won’t be space to walk. Hence many prefer to walk on the road. But in the skywalk there will be a free movement of pedestrians,” the official said, pointing out that over 15,000 pedestrians use the arterial road during peak hour.

The proposal for the skywalk was mooted in the wake of impending closure of the pedestrian subway near Park station for the construction of an underground Chennai metro rail station.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/skywalk-soon-be-reality-438

The nearly 1-km-long walkway along EVR Periyar Salai will have escalators at entry and exit points of Central and Park stations, Madras Medical College and Evening Bazaar Road. Besides escalator, the skywalk will have ramp for the benefit of the elderly and physically challenged people.

Escalators :lol: Innuma ooru ivangala nambikitu irukku? (vadivel style)

Rail Budget 2012-13: Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata to get additional rail services

In good news for people who use local trains in Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata, Railway Minister Dinesh Trivedi today announced 137 additional services in sub-urban train network.

While presenting this year's Rail Budget, Trivedi said with a view to further enhancing the carrying capacity of suburban services, additional services are being introduced in Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata.

There will be 75 new services in Mumbai, 18 in Chennai and 44 in Kolkata, he said. New suburban services for Kolkata include Sealdah- Ranaghat, Ranaghat-Naihati, Ranaghat-Shantipur, Ranaghat- Krishnanagar, Ranaghat-Gede, Ranaghat-Bangaon, Bangaon- Barasat, Barasat-Hasnabad, Bandel-Barddhaman, Bandel-Howrah and Mecheda-Degha.

He also proposed to introduce 50 new services in Kolkata Metro in the coming year.

Additional suburban services proposed for Mumbai include Churchgate-Virar, Virar-Dahanu Road, Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus-Kalyan-Kasara and Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus -Kalyan-Karjat sections, Harbour and Trans-Harbour line.

In Chennai area, it is proposed to run 18 additional services on Chennai Beach-Tambaram, Chennai Beach- Chengalpattu, Chennai Beach-Avadi, Chennai Beach-Tiruttani, Chennai Beach-Gummiidipundi/Sullurupetta and Chennai Beach-Velachery sections, Trivedi said.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/railways/rail-budget-2012-13-mumbai-chennai-kolkata-to-get-additional-rail-services/articleshow/12264319.cms

Now that Royapuram will be the next terminal, they must increase access roads and infra around it . Hope CMDA and SG will take a lead role in seizing this opportunity for growth in North Chennai.

Do hope that Railways will maintain little bit historic nature of the Royapuram site.. (And double hopefully improve the terminal infra, up from now...)

Now that Royapuram will be the next terminal, they must increase access roads and infra around it . Hope CMDA and SG will take a lead role in seizing this opportunity for growth in North Chennai.

Do hope that Railways will maintain little bit historic nature of the Royapuram site.. (And double hopefully improve the terminal infra, up from now...)
I think Royapuram is included as 1 of the terminal. it will be 4th terminal for chennai.
members can clarify on this.

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The list of Adarsh stations in Chennai and suburbs are: Chennai Beach, Chetpet, Park, Korukkupet, Perambur Carriage Works, Thiruninravur, St. Thomas Mount and Chromepet.

“The railways would ensure that such stations have basic facilities including drinking water, adequate toilets, catering services, waiting rooms and dormitories especially for lady passengers, better signages and other facilities,” explained S. Anantharaman, Divisional Railway Manager, Southern Railway.

SRC: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article2995773.ece

Hi Guys,
I read this news in some blogs. Can you anyone have any idea on why no news on this line? Is it dropped. Even in last budged they have allocated 50C for DPR i guess. Whats the status of this project now?
"The Indian Railway Budget has a rail network project along east coast road near chennai in Tamil Nadu. This train route will take two hours to travel thus passing through industrial units and IT establishments along ECR
The Union Ministry has passed the railway project along the East Coast connecting Chennai & Cuddalore through Mamallapuram and Puducherry
The proposed railway project will give large job opportunities as getting down the running time from Puducherry to Chennai in 2 hours.
There is one more project Bangalore-Puducherry railway project which may also get cleared.
The Chennai-Cuddalore alignment survey made long back, but nothing is mentioned in this year Railway budget (2012-2013). Overall a very disappointment Railway budget for Tamilnadu.
The new train line was proposed even before the year 2007 and a detailed blueprint on the railway line was announced on 2008 from Chennai to Cuddalore through Puducherry and Mamallapuram would branch off from Perungudi on the MRTS line section.
The project cost of Chennai Perungudi – Cuddalore through Mahabalipuram and Puducherry of 179.25 km would cost Rs.522.22 crore
Station Stationed at
Perungudi 0
Solinganallur 9.6
Kovalam 23.6
Tirupporur 30.1
Mahabalipuram 43.7
Kalpakkam 49.3
Sadurangappattinam 52.7
Kuvattur 64.5
Cheyyur 80.2
Chunampet 92.8
Marakkanam 96.6
Kunimedu 112
Kuilappalayam 125.6
Jipmer 131.1
Pondichery 139.1
New Pondichery 147.4
Bahoor 161.9
Varakalpattu 170.2
Tiruppadirippuliyur 175.3
Cuddalore Port 179.2
"

http://in.finance.yahoo.com/news/travel-high-speed-double-decker-152828791.html?mod=budgetNews

Travel in high-speed double-decker from Bangalore to Chennai
IANS

Bangalore, March 14 (IANS) Denizens of this tech hub will soon have the privilege of travelling in an high-speed air-conditioned double-decker express to Chennai, covering a distance of about 360 km in a little over two hours.

Of the seven new express/mail trains Railway Minister Dinesh Trivedi announced Wednesday for Karnataka in the 2012-13 rail budget, introduction of a daily non-stop AC double-decker express will be eagerly awaited as it will reduce the travel time between the two cities by three hours from the five hours the Shatabdi Express currently takes.

"Reducing travel time from Bangalore to Chennai by nearly three hours will be possible, as the double-decker express coaches are designed and built to run at 150 km per hour on upgraded tracks with no stoppages," a senior South Western Railway (SWR) official told IANS here.

Of the seven direct express/mail trains operated between the two cities, two are Shatabdis on six days a week, which run at 110 kmph, and two are inter-city trains that take over six hours due to their many halts.

"The double-decker express will be launched as soon as we get the new coaches and funds to upgrade the tracks, which currently enable Shatabdis to travel at 110 kmph," the official said on condition of anonymity.

The double-decker rakes, comprising eight stainless steel coaches and two power cars, are manufactured at the Rail Coach Factory at Kapurthala in Punjab.

"A double-decker coach can carry 128 passengers in comparison to 78 in a Shatabdi chair car, increasing the capacity by about 70 percent. With lower weight per commuter, the coaches are more energy efficient," the official pointed out.

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SRC: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article2995773.ece

This is bare minimum standards expected from a Railway station?! If Adarsh stations will have this, other stations dont even have these any or all of these facilities? atrocious!

^^ Haha exactly my thoughts as well. They are promoting it as if it is a luxury !

http://in.finance.yahoo.com/news/travel-high-speed-double-decker-152828791.html?mod=budgetNews

Travel in high-speed double-decker from Bangalore to Chennai
IANS


The double-decker rakes, comprising eight stainless steel coaches and two power cars, are manufactured at the Rail Coach Factory at Kapurthala in Punjab.

"A double-decker coach can carry 128 passengers in comparison to 78 in a Shatabdi chair car, increasing the capacity by about 70 percent. With lower weight per commuter, the coaches are more energy efficient," the official pointed out.

What is this double-decker coach - will it be one-coach-over-other like double decker bus? If so, how stable it will be? Any pictures?

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Hi Guys,
I read this news in some blogs. Can you anyone have any idea on why no news on this line? Is it dropped. Even in last budged they have allocated 50C for DPR i guess. Whats the status of this project now?
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Yeah as you said DPR was budgeted last time, but was any time set for completion of DPR ? DPR kind of things in Indian Railways itself takes a few years. So don't expect to hear on this for sometime..

Personally I feel that Avadi Guduvanchery (via Oragadam/Sriperumpudur) will be given greater priority.

Five more trains to connect city with Tiruvallur, Gummidipoondi (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Five-more-trains-to-connect-city-with-Tiruvallur-Gummidipoondi/articleshow/12323174.cms)

CHENNAI: Suburban train commuters now have reasons to cheer. Southern Railway on Sunday introduced five new suburban trains which will cater to 5,000 more commuters in the Chennai-Gummidipoondi and Chennai-Tiruvallur routes. And the suburban stations are likely to get cleaner, as Chennai Corporation has decided to join hands with Southern Railway to spruce up.

Flagging off the new services promised in last year's railway budget, Chennai Mayor Saidai Duraisamy said the civic body will with the railways to improve cleanliness at railway stations that fall within the city limits. "We will survey railway stations and improve amenities," the mayor said.

Corporation and railway officials will conduct inspections to prevent mosquito menace at access roads and in the vicinity of suburban stations. "Some of the stations are located near water channels. We will take steps to ensure cleanliness," said divisional railway manager S Anantharaman.

Suburban commuter traffic has increased by 13.2 % over last year. The railways has kicked off several projects to improve passenger amenities in the suburban network which is used by 16.6 lakh commuters every day. "New foot-overbridges are being built at 21 stations at a cost of 20 crore while new subways will be built at Tirumalpur and Nemilicherry stations at 2 crore each. An additional booking office will be built in the Tambaram sector," said Anantharaman.

As suburban trains attract more people from the lower middle class, Southern Railway has decided to install bicycle stands at seven stations. At present, there are 64 stations.

The new trains will be operated on these routes: Avadi-Chennai Beach (2.40pm), Chennai Beach-Gummidipoondi (3.45pm), Gummidipoondi-Chennai Central (5.30pm), Chennai Central-Tiruvallur (6.50pm) and Tiruvallur-Chennai Central (8.40pm).

The number of railway services per day in the Chennai-Gummidipoondi and Chennai-Tiruvallur sections will go up to 450 services after the new services are introduced. Chennai has 766 trains running along its suburban network.

Traffic has increased by 13.2 % over last year. Chennai mayor Saidai Duraisamy said the civic body with the railways will improve cleanliness at stations

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Thanks :)

Looks cool - happy atleast some "innovation" is happening.
Has such coaches been used anywhere else - other countries?

Thanks :)

Looks cool - happy atleast some "innovation" is happening.
Has such coaches been used anywhere else - other countries?
Sure. They are used in other countries.. Also non AC trains were used in several areas here in the past

Yes. There is this Cal train I've traveled in, that plies in the bay area of California from San Jose to San Francisco. Extremely similar to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrain

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Yes. There is this Cal train I've traveled in, that plies in the bay area of California from San Jose to San Francisco. Extremely similar to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrain

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Nippon_Sharyo_bi-level_passenger_car_interior_hallway.JPG/429px-Nippon_Sharyo_bi-level_passenger_car_interior_hallway.JPG

Similiar type .....shown in d hollywood movie "Source code".

Right now we have seats 3 + 3 in a row in BG and 3 + 2 in MG.

The increase by converting to this type of double decker - how nuch ? Does not seem double.

Right now we have seats 3 + 3 in a row in BG and 3 + 2 in MG.

The increase by converting to this type of double decker - how nuch ? Does not seem double.

Single decker AC CC - 67 and 78 in recent trains *
Double decker AC CC - 128

*corrections welcomed.

neenga MG AC CC la eppo ponninga?

Single decker AC CC - 67 and 78 in recent trains *
Double decker AC CC - 128

*corrections welcomed.

neenga MG AC CC la eppo ponninga?

MG AC CC used to be 2+2 seats. non A/c is 3+2
I travelled by Chozhan express long back to Kumbakonam from Egmore, when main line was MG. Now after gauge conversion that training is running with sleeper coach :(

I got confused between Normal Chair Car and not AC Chair car.

Thanks Arul.

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Cross posting IR projects in TN thread...

Originally posted by Chennai Future

Shortage of funds derails gauge conversion works at Tambaram

CHENNAI: A shortage of funds has affected the conversion of three metre-gauge tracks into broad gauge at Tambaram railway station.

Presently, suburban broad gauge trains are forced to wait at signal points between Tambaram Sanatorium and the EMU workshop before platforms at the Tambaram station are free for trains from Chennai Beach. In the opposite direction, trains are made to wait either at Perungalathur or at Vandalur for around 20 minutes.

Last month, when the automatic signals between Tambaram and Tambaram Sanatorium failed, there was a long disruption of services as only two tracks were available. Additional tracks would have helped a lot, officials said.

The delay in the gauge conversion project has also hindered the optimum use of BG suburban trains from both Chengalpet and Chennai Beach.

The first broad gauge line at Tambaram was laid in 2004 at platform 2. In 2008, platform one was built. Subsequently, the conversion of lines at platforms 3, 4 and 5 into broad gauge was taken up but had to be halted due to a shortage of funds.

"We have taken up the issue with higher officials during routine meetings and also when they visit Tambaram station for inspections, but there has been no progress," said sources in the Dakshin Railway Employees Union (DREU), Chennai.

Daily, 160 train services are operated between Chennai Beach and Tambaram, 70 between Tambaram and Chengalpet and 16 between Tambaram and Kancheepuram.

The gauge conversion is aimed at running more services between Chennai Beach and Tambaram and to help increase services to Chengalpet from Tambaram.

Source (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Chennai/%0A%09%09Shortage-of-funds-derails-gauge-conversion-works-at-Tambaram/articleshow/12387022.cms)

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GPS can be good for tracking progress.. I hope they are not relying on this to prevent collisions!

http://www.indiadigitalreview.com/news/indian-railways-launch-real-time-train-tracking-google-maps (http://www.indiadigitalreview.com/news/indian-railways-launch-real-time-train-tracking-google-maps)

The Centre for Railway Information Systems (CRIS), the technology arm of the Indian Railways, along with Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO), has developed a GPS-based solution which can provide exact location of a train with an accuracy of 10 metres, and latency of 2 minutes, on a real-time basis. Passengers may also be able to see real-time locations through mobile devices and PCs, as CRIS has integrated the GPS app with Google Maps.

The GPS devices, which will cost around Rs 70,000 to Rs 1,00,000 per train, would be fitted in about 100 trains, which may help avert collisions and prevent loss of lives. In affect, trains in future may know each other's location, and start breaking, in case of danger ahead.

"The government's focus is to reduce the number of accidents and installation of real-time monitoring service on all trains by the end of 2013, which would contribute in improving the monitoring," VA Chopra, MD, CRIS has said.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/rsubram24

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http://www.youtube.com/user/VinothTN?feature=mhee

^^ Really nice :) So far I have seen only 3 simultaneous up & downs in Guindy....

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http://www.youtube.com/user/VinothTN?feature=mhee

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^^ Really nice :) So far I have seen only 3 simultaneous up & downs in Guindy....

Thanks! This too is a 3 train run but from a distance it looks like 4...

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Imagine their headache in case of a single line...

http://www.youtube.com/user/VinothTN?feature=mhee

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simply great. This is the best thing a rail fan can enjoy in Chennai and Mumbai!! 2 suburban trains and 2 express trains can be spotted on same section.

Vinoth you can please tell the location and timings!! so that we can know the express train names. :)

Thanks Arul!! This was shot at 06:55 @ Padi RoB.. I am not sure about both the trains.. Guess the one towards Chennai is TVC express..

Thanks! This too is a 3 train run but from a distance it looks like 4...



Imagine their headache in case of a single line...

single line la vera madhiri irukkum rail traffic control. Signal potturuvaanga anniyayathukku. namma sundal than saptu time pass pannanum

Thanks Arul!! This was shot at 06:55 @ Padi RoB.. I am not sure about both the trains.. Guess the one towards Chennai is TVC express..

My guess

1. Kaveri Express towards Central
2. Sapthagiri express towards Arrakonam
3. EMU to Central
4. EMU to Arrakonam

TVC mail usually reaches MAS by 06:55 and it will cross Padi around 06:15 to 06:30.

My guess

1. Kaveri Express towards Central
2. Sapthagiri express towards Arrakonam
3. EMU to Central
4. EMU to Arrakonam

TVC mail usually reaches MAS by 06:55 and it will cross Padi around 06:15 to 06:30.

Ah! Captain Vijayakanth style la pulan visaranai panreenga!! shoober thalaiva!!

Arul, good sir... ekkachakkamaana data vechundu kalakkareenga..

My guess

1. Kaveri Express towards Central
2. Sapthagiri express towards Arrakonam
3. EMU to Central
4. EMU to Arrakonam

TVC mail usually reaches MAS by 06:55 and it will cross Padi around 06:15 to 06:30.I feel it cannot be Sapthagiri and could it be Kovai or Brindavan since the 23 coach rake is in normal colour? I vaguely remember Sapthagiri is currently in a livery resembling normal coaches but not exactly same livery. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

Ramesh

My guess

1. Kaveri Express towards Central
2. Sapthagiri express towards Arrakonam
3. EMU to Central
4. EMU to Arrakonam

TVC mail usually reaches MAS by 06:55 and it will cross Padi around 06:15 to 06:30.

The one towards Central is definitely not Kaveri. The train is a 12 coach one and I distinctly remember Kaveri to be longer (22 or 23 coach). Finding the train wont be difficult. There are not many trains which run with only 12 coaches at such a busy time. My guess is that it is some recently introduced express.

The one towards Arrakonam is again definitely not Sapthagiri. As pointed out by Ramesh, it has a livery - a yellow green livery. And again it is not 23 coach. It is much smaller (I think 15-16 coaches). My guess is that it is Kovai. The timing matches, 23 coaches, presence of pantry car. It is unmistakable - It is Kovai express; my favorite train :)

I feel it cannot be Sapthagiri and could it be Kovai or Brindavan since the 23 coach rake is in normal colour? I vaguely remember Sapthagiri is currently in a livery resembling normal coaches but not exactly same livery. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

Ramesh

The one towards Central is definitely not Kaveri. The train is a 12 coach one and I distinctly remember Kaveri to be longer (22 or 23 coach). Finding the train wont be difficult. There are not many trains which run with only 12 coaches at such a busy time. My guess is that it is some recently introduced express.

The one towards Arrakonam is again definitely not Sapthagiri. As pointed out by Ramesh, it has a livery - a yellow green livery. And again it is not 23 coach. It is much smaller (I think 15-16 coaches). My guess is that it is Kovai. The timing matches, 23 coaches, presence of pantry car. It is unmistakable - It is Kovai express; my favorite train :)

23 coach train is moving towards central!! so it cannot be Brindavan or Kovai.

Tshyam, there is a SLR coach at 6th or 7th position from the loco for that 23 coach train. So it should be Kaveri express! 6-7 coaches are attached at Bangalore for this Kaveri express. So SLR coach which would be last coach while coming from Mysore, will become 6th or 7th coach after adding Bangalore portion.

I guess Brindavan is 25 coach train. And Kovai express have advertisement on the ordinary coaches!! So these are missing in that 23 coach train and further my observation is that it is moving toward central.

Also Sapthagiri runs with conventional blue livery coaches. I used Sapthagiri 10days before from Renigunta to Central, the train arrived from MAS was blue livery with 13-14 coaches. I am not sure where those green livery coach and loco has gone.

This is my understanding from that video. I may be wrong....

http://i44.tinypic.com/1445wlf.jpg

^^

I guess confusion is due to this order


My guess

1. Kaveri Express towards Central
2. Sapthagiri express towards Arrakonam
3. EMU to Central
4. EMU to Arrakonam

TVC mail usually reaches MAS by 06:55 and it will cross Padi around 06:15 to 06:30.

It should be

1. Sapthagiri express towards Arrakonam
2. Kaveri Express towards Central
3. EMU to Central
4. EMU to Arrakonam

http://i44.tinypic.com/1445wlf.jpg
:master: & :yes:. But Sapthagiri has locos at each end rite?

//Also Sapthagiri runs with conventional blue livery coaches. I used Sapthagiri 10days before from Renigunta to Central, the train arrived from MAS was blue livery with 13-14 coaches. I am not sure where those green livery coach and loco has gone. //

The conventional coach train is sapthagiri express .. should be running late

Green livery coaches should have gone for POH.

I generally travel between PUT and MAS in this train.

and once in a while we get these conventional coaches. :tongue4:

The other train towards MAS is definitely KAVERI Exp.

Thanks Damodar!!

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River :(

They have two seperate tracks for express trains from egmore till tambaram after tambaram only two tracks are there, all trains express,emu's going and coming in these two tracks only.We not yet prepared seperate tracks for EMU's after tambaram.we got independence before 64 years still nothing improved.

What has independence got to do with it?

Let me draw your attention to the following: 4 dedicated BG tracks between MS-TBM, and 3 between MSB-MS. Used to be 3 MG tracks. BG is more capacity, and there are now 12 car rakes every 10-15 min (MG maxed out at 8 car rakes), hence more capacity. As for express trains, there are more trains from MS than the MG era, and with more capacity - BG tracks, and longer rakes.

I agree that things beynd TBM need improvement, just don't see where the independent status joins this discussion :)

What has independence got to do with it?

Let me draw your attention to the following: 4 dedicated BG tracks between MS-TBM, and 3 between MSB-MS. Used to be 3 MG tracks. BG is more capacity, and there are now 12 car rakes every 10-15 min (MG maxed out at 8 car rakes), hence more capacity. As for express trains, there are more trains from MS than the MG era, and with more capacity - BG tracks, and longer rakes.

I agree that things beynd TBM need improvement, just don't see where the independent status joins this discussion :)

May be his expectation was that "our Engineers plan with full capacity and bring more amenities to people was not done fullest after independence" (Vant'enna...?).

by the way, it is truth that beyond TBM city have expanded horizontally and just 2 tracks just not sufficient. Need the 3rd MG to be BG immediately (may be in next 2 decades it may be done).

One more. I feel the frequency between MSB-TBM is reduced after BG. Now SR may claim that they are serving same no. of people as in MG or little more. But looking at the frequency... just 1 in every 8-10 min is disgusting for the crowd that turn up. It is worse in non-peak hrs (just 3 in 1hr).

Key in city is time. Every sec. counts... Real benifit to the people would be operating 2 6-car train every 3-4min rather 12 car in every 8-10min. Bombay has already gone to 15 cars. So Chennai will soon adopt 15 car (with couple of sub-urban station, people has risk jumping to board/alight) and once in every 15min. So operating cost is reduced further but same people.

This I feel Kolaveri intent of Accountant driven operation. What willl stop them 20car (or continuous chain of bogies... kodumai'da...)?

Our Mamata will keep opposing cost increase and SR (and CR, and SCR and every XXR) will keep increase the number of compartments... No one bothers how best the commuters interest is met... Horrible...

I have nothing else other than "Need to improve"...

I think regional railway zones need to be more decentralized so that they can take more decisions on their own - for example, adding more platforms at TBM. Things like that should not need funds or approval from Delhi. This takes away most decision making powers out of the regional managers, who are the people most conversant with local issues. This is my biggest complaint (kolaveri equivalent): even adding more suburban services needs an announcement from rail bhavan :(

May be his expectation was that "our Engineers plan with full capacity and bring more amenities to people was not done fullest after independence" (Vant'enna...?).

by the way, it is truth that beyond TBM city have expanded horizontally and just 2 tracks just not sufficient. Need the 3rd MG to be BG immediately (may be in next 2 decades it may be done).

One more. I feel the frequency between MSB-TBM is reduced after BG. Now SR may claim that they are serving same no. of people as in MG or little more. But looking at the frequency... just 1 in every 8-10 min is disgusting for the crowd that turn up. It is worse in non-peak hrs (just 3 in 1hr).

Key in city is time. Every sec. counts... Real benifit to the people would be operating 2 6-car train every 3-4min rather 12 car in every 8-10min. Bombay has already gone to 15 cars. So Chennai will soon adopt 15 car (with couple of sub-urban station, people has risk jumping to board/alight) and once in every 15min. So operating cost is reduced further but same people.

This I feel Kolaveri intent of Accountant driven operation. What willl stop them 20car (or continuous chain of bogies... kodumai'da...)?

Our Mamata will keep opposing cost increase and SR (and CR, and SCR and every XXR) will keep increase the number of compartments... No one bothers how best the commuters interest is met... Horrible...

I have nothing else other than "Need to improve"...



Iam a daily commuter in the MSB-TBM line .I start only after 11 ,sometimes after 12 to office .But i haven't waited for more that 5 mins in the station even in the non-peak hours .The least frequency in the Peak hours is 5 mins only ,may be even less and in non-peak hours(after 9 pm) in 10 mins only.

Please check the SR Chennai suburban time tables. I also accept the fact that the services needs to catch up with Mumbai suburban lines .

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http://www.youtube.com/user/indianrailways

Excellent Vinoth.. very nice picture
where is this ponpadi?

Iam a daily commuter in the MSB-TBM line .I start only after 11 ,sometimes after 12 to office .But i haven't waited for more that 5 mins in the station even in the non-peak hours .The least frequency in the Peak hours is 5 mins only ,may be even less and in non-peak hours(after 9 pm) in 10 mins only.

Please check the SR Chennai suburban time tables. I also accept the fact that the services needs to catch up with Mumbai suburban lines .

http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/files/1309780946915-MSB-TBM%20-%20PTT%20JULY%20-11-12%20%20WEEK%20DAYS.pdf

Check the timing. It is never 12 service in a single hour to claim 5min frequency. Of course it is not on regular time. Which means there are trains within couple of min and there are at 15min. There are odd hours with just 3 trains. Even peak hour starting 4pm is just 4/5 service. This is what I am pointing at. If you are at wrong slot, you need to wait longer time.

Also trains should be operated at fixed interval. This can vary between peak and non peak. Also peak shouldn't be only office hrs. For CGL it starts 6am. For TBM it starts 7:30am and in MBM, it may be 8:30am. So except dark in the morning and after 11pm should be non-peak. Rest should be peak hrfrequency. It may be ambitious. But for the size of the population that's what is required. SR should not be ademand that only 120+% is the peak hr. Even it could be 60-70% occupancy also should be peak.

Make sense (I am sure it is not for SR officials, owing to operational cost)...

^^ Per uploader the place is in between Renigunta and Arakonam.. looks like he climbed(no road, no steps) a hill to take this video

It is worst on weekend. Who thinks that on weekend people stay at home? It is atrocious thought. If you board on weekend from TBM, you would see lot of family travel. Crowd if not same at least comparable to a typical working day. Now the entire family with kids and elders are unconvinced. We shouldn't always think that the transportation required only for office. Think about the crowd retrain at park station on Sunday evening... Definitely SR should treat weekday and weekend should be same at least not this worst.

Hi Jayaraj,
I agree that there is a huge demand on weekends too.. so SR should operate as Weekday special.
Sara has told he did not wait for more than 5 mins.. it means he plans his arrival time to the stations on 5 mins of departure of trains.
I used to travel in peak hours..there are enough frequencies between 8 to 9 or 9:15 am.(in fact 4 to 5 mins)...
probably you can check with timings on the station board..
the pdf might not be updated the latest.

but there is no doubt that CGL-MSB frequency to be increased and all trains should have 12 cars.

What has independence got to do with it?

Let me draw your attention to the following: 4 dedicated BG tracks between MS-TBM, and 3 between MSB-MS. Used to be 3 MG tracks. BG is more capacity, and there are now 12 car rakes every 10-15 min (MG maxed out at 8 car rakes), hence more capacity. As for express trains, there are more trains from MS than the MG era, and with more capacity - BG tracks, and longer rakes.

I agree that things beynd TBM need improvement, just don't see where the independent status joins this discussion :)

1.It's sad that still our most of the routes(nearly 70 percent) are develpoed by british.

2.WE can't even provide escalators in platform to avoid people from crossing railway tracks.

3.we cant even give good clean toilet in passenger trains

4.what else we did with our own govt(govt elected by people)

The just 4 BG tracks from egmore to tambaram is the development you satisfied?

very sad

1.why they cant prepare 4 BG tacks from TBM MSB

2.why they cant reduce the frequency between TBM MSB?

3.Do you know how many people commuting from city to chengalpet and chengalpet to chennai?

4.The distance from BEACH STATION to THIRUMALPUR is 107 km but they are running 9 car train everytime.dont you think it's silly?

i dont see the development and you cant say it as development

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsJLwoVWujU

1.why they cant prepare 4 BG tacks from TBM MSB

2.why they cant reduce the frequency between TBM MSB?

3.Do you know how many people commuting from city to chengalpet and chengalpet to chennai?

4.The distance from BEACH STATION to THIRUMALPUR is 107 km but they are running 9 car train everytime.dont you think it's silly?

i dont see the development and you cant say it as development

1. Why should they? IR just cannot build something without justification

2. Reduce or increase? Whatever the train @ 9:00 will be crowded and it will never change..

3. How many?

4. Its you who find it silly.

http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/files/1309780946915-MSB-TBM%20-%20PTT%20JULY%20-11-12%20%20WEEK%20DAYS.pdf

Check the timing. It is never 12 service in a single hour to claim 5min frequency. Of course it is not on regular time. Which means there are trains within couple of min and there are at 15min. There are odd hours with just 3 trains. Even peak hour starting 4pm is just 4/5 service. This is what I am pointing at. If you are at wrong slot, you need to wait longer time.

Also trains should be operated at fixed interval. This can vary between peak and non peak. Also peak shouldn't be only office hrs. For CGL it starts 6am. For TBM it starts 7:30am and in MBM, it may be 8:30am. So except dark in the morning and after 11pm should be non-peak. Rest should be peak hrfrequency. It may be ambitious. But for the size of the population that's what is required. SR should not be ademand that only 120+% is the peak hr. Even it could be 60-70% occupancy also should be peak.

Make sense (I am sure it is not for SR officials, owing to operational cost)...

There are 28 services that starts between 6:00 and 9:30 and out of that 18 are 12 car EMU. It makes perfect sense by any scale. SR cannot be responsible of commuter's alarm failure...

It is worst on weekend. Who thinks that on weekend people stay at home? It is atrocious thought. If you board on weekend from TBM, you would see lot of family travel. Crowd if not same at least comparable to a typical working day. Now the entire family with kids and elders are unconvinced. We shouldn't always think that the transportation required only for office. Think about the crowd retrain at park station on Sunday evening... Definitely SR should treat weekday and weekend should be same at least not this worst.

EMU services are subsidized by state government and you cannot really blame them for running as many services on a weekend. SR runs close to 140 services starting at MSB, that is 7 per hour. Are you referring compartments were all the seat occupied as crowded?

For updated train timetable.. From this it is evident that the services are well planned to cater the needs of office goers. Even in the double track north line more locals are operated in peak hours..
http://erail.in/ChennaiSubUrbanTrains.htm#

There are 28 services that starts between 6:00 and 9:30 and out of that 18 are 12 car EMU. It makes perfect sense by any scale. SR cannot be responsible of commuter's alarm failure...
:lol:
but thye can increase EMU by 12 Cars Vinoth..it is tough in the evenings.. you can not even enter into it in Guindy.. After mount, pazhavanthal, the crowd will be reduced lot...
MRTS(if successfully completed, can take out some crowd from St.thomas mount as most of the crowd in st. thomas mount are towards medavakkam side.

:lol:
but thye can increase EMU by 12 Cars Vinoth..it is tough in the evenings.. you can not even enter into it in Guindy.. After mount, pazhavanthal, the crowd will be reduced lot...

Thats true my friend was struck inside the station for 45 mins.. on the other hand imagine how the situation will be had if they continued with MG and normal passenger trains instead of EMUs and MEMUs on the other two lines.. but i think the 12 car EMUs are steadily increasing

1. Why should they? IR just cannot build something without justification

2. Reduce or increase? Whatever the train @ 9:00 will be crowded and it will never change..

3. How many?

4. Its you who find it silly.

when people are like these mindset nothing will change

No pharmacy, internet at 2 railway stations (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/no-pharmacy-internet-at-2-railway-stations/252129-60-120.html)


CHENNAI: They are the two major railway terminals linking Chennai with the rest of the country. Attracting over three lakh people every day, the city’s premier landmarks handle roughly 150 trains, and tens of thousands of passengers. However, the absence of a pharmacy is a blot on these stations, which otherwise have several first-of-its-kind initiatives to their names. What is more, neither Central nor Egmore has an Internet café, at a time when wi-fi facilities are offered even on board trains.
Picture this. A passenger who urgently requires his prescribed medicine after arriving at Central Railway Station must make his way to the congested Nainiappan Maistry Street, off Walltax Road, to find a pharmacy, spending at least 20 precious minutes. For a browsing centre he has to walk down to the adjacent Walltax Road, again 20� minutes. A few emergency medicines like paracetamol tablets and pain relievers are sold at a book stall in the station. �
Enquiries into the critical absence of these basic facilities revealed that three pharmacies were shut down in the last three years, and the lone Internet centre at the Central Railway Station run by RailTel Corporation of India Limited was closed about 12 months ago. The huge rent for the stall proved a constraint as the Internet centre generated hardly any income.
Apparently Egmore Railway Station too, after more than a century of servicing commuters, lacks these facilities, forcing hapless people to go to Kennet Lane, diagonally opposite 96the station. Though a pharmacy cum general shop is functioning close to the railway terminal, the net savvy must make it to the fag end of Kennet Lane to browse the Internet. When contacted, a senior official of Southern Railway stated that tenders had been floated for two pharmacies at Central and Egmore Railway Stations, which are yet to be finalised.

This is the real pathetic status of chennai's premier hub stations.

No pharmacy, internet at 2 railway stations (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/no-pharmacy-internet-at-2-railway-stations/252129-60-120.html)



This is the real pathetic status of chennai's premier hub stations.

Boss, Toilet kuda propera illa, WIFI , medicines ellam ethir parikirathu too much. Not sure now, it has been a long time since i travelled by train.

EMU services are subsidized by state government and you cannot really blame them for running as many services on a weekend. SR runs close to 140 services starting at MSB, that is 7 per hour. Are you referring compartments were all the seat occupied as crowded?

Weekend frequency is not sufficient. I travel from TBM, even on crowd I am sure I can get seat there. most of the time the seats are occupied. Imagine from next station onwards. From Chrompet itself people find it difficult to board. My only point is increase the frequency. Why we should consider 100+% occupancy is the need of more trains? I am sure operational cost is the only reason which compromises the comfort of commuters. I am not expecting seat all the time. Atleast a convenient boarding/detraining without yelling for space.

Again, we only worry about office going community (9 and evening 5). There are hundreds of business people who travel throughout the day. We cannot blame them saying alarm failure. There are vendors who return after morning sale of goods. There are salesman who travel. There school kids who travel after half a day.

After my brief 4years of college, when I entered multiple need of my career I need to travel throughout the time of the day. Of ocurse morning 9 I need to punch at office. Later, I need to travel for other service issues.

You may say 'go get two wheeler'. Then we are driving him out of the service of train. In fact that is exactly happening... more two wheelers on road.

whatever the solution is, our basic understanding of peak hour definition should change. For me, 6am-11pm is peak hr. Rest can be non-peak.

Probably I will take picture of the board which displays the time. How lean non-peak Vs Peak hr.

Govt should not run travelling services for profit.If you say it's for profit then why tey are constructing new metro lines in chennai?

if they govt say loss in railways then how the loss came?

why govt can't provide good transportation facility in this 120 crores populated country?

when people are like these mindset nothing will change
People like me are much better than those who got no idea what frequency is..:lol:

Probably I will take picture of the board which displays the time. How lean non-peak Vs Peak hr.
check the online timetable its far accurate...

Govt should not run travelling services for profit.If you say it's for profit then why tey are constructing new metro lines in chennai?

if they govt say loss in railways then how the loss came?

why govt can't provide good transportation facility in this 120 crores populated country?

ain't enough money for the railways to provide good transportation.yet the trains keep moving overcrowded.People bear it but not any increase in train fares.after travel experience in mumbai's suburban trains one feel like a maharaja travel in chennai's suburban trains.

Well one can feel like a maharaja alright but he ain't one.

Agree with many of your points, but not with these:


1.why they cant prepare 4 BG tacks from TBM MSB

There are, please check the tracks next time you visit this area. If you are referring to 3 tracks between MS-MSB, there is very little land available for another line; yet, it is possible to operate more fast services on this single line, since they will be unidirectional given the time of the day and traffic flows in Chennai. With the available infra, we can in the future operate trains like they do in Mumbai, i.e. peak frequency of around 60 sec if needed, with dedicated slow and fast services. Currently, Chennai does not have Mumbai-size population, and a similar demand for rail travel (MTC takes a bunch of load too, unlike Mumbai).


2.why they cant reduce the frequency between TBM MSB?


I think you meant increase: I agree with this, track capacity exists, because of the infra augmentation by BG conversion, which I call development. As to why not more services, only SR would know - maybe they don't have enough rakes, or maybe operating additional services would be a financial burden (most of these suburban operations make a loss except in Mumbai and Kolkata). The SG can help, but won't, because they are happy making money through a competing MTC.


3.Do you know how many people commuting from city to chengalpet and chengalpet to chennai?


I don't know, but I am sure it is a lot. If you cared to read my original post, I mentioned facts only between MSB-TBM and said beyond TBM, things aren't good.

Ideally, here's what we need IMHO:
1. TBM-CGL should be quadrupled, with EMU operations similar to MSB-TBM.
2. CGL-TMLP/AJJ doubled to enable regular EMU operations thoughout the day.
3. Operate more fast services through the day from TMLP/CGL to MSB to help longer distance commuters.
4. MSB-TBM needs a lot more fast services, especially in peak hours.


4.The distance from BEACH STATION to THIRUMALPUR is 107 km but they are running 9 car train everytime.dont you think it's silly?


Possibly, given the kind of demand and frequency of service. 9-car may be sufficient if there is more frequent service to TMLP, say, every 15-30 min, but currently I understand that there are very few services to TMLP.

Ideally, IMHO, SR should run frequent 9-car rakes between MSB-TBM, TBM-CGL, and CGL-TMLP through the day. 9-car rakes would enable more frequent operation without excess capacity, and shorter distances (around 30-50 km) would give more flexibility in scheduling. Long distances routes like MSB - TMLP can be restricted to peak hours.


i dont see the development and you cant say it as development

What you see is subjective, and so is what I see. I listed facts about what I saw, and in my opinion, that is development. Kindly don't make statements like "you can't say" something. Let us discuss facts and real issues, not what one can see and cannot see.

Long wait for tickets at Tambaram station (http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3377772.ece)

Buying a ticket for a suburban electric train is a simple task. But at the Tambaram railway station, it has become an ordeal. A shortage of staff at the ticket counters combined with an increase in the number of people availing of the trains' services (due to steep fares in government buses) has resulted in overcrowding at the ticket counters on both the eastern and western sides of the station.

Southern Railway sources said people waiting in endless queues at ticket counters, especially during rush hours on Friday evenings and Monday mornings, was a common sight. With the onset of summer vacations, the number of people travelling to different parts of the city and other far-flung suburban locations such as Arakkonam, Tiruvallur, Gummidipoondi and Kancheepuram too, has increased.

At present, two counters function on the eastern side, and five on the western.

On days considered auspicious, muhurthams for instance, the crowds increase. On Wednesday, the crowd swelled to more than its usual size at ticket counters on both sides. Between 8 a.m. and 9.30 a.m., people waited for as long as 45 minutes to get a ticket, missing between four and five trains to Chennai Beach, and at least a couple towards Chengalpattu. This led to frayed tempers amongst people waiting in the queue.

Added to this, only three of the nine ceiling fans were working near the ticket counters. Further, many impatient men were seen jumping the queue to get to the counter, resulting in a mild scuffle amongst some of the waiting commuters. No policeman however, was seen regulating the crowd.

This problem is not restricted just to Tambaram, but exists at nearly all the suburban stations on the Tambaram – Chennai Beach line, during rush hours on weekdays, Southern Railway sources said.

People preferred to travel by electric train as it saves them both time and money. “I have to spend anywhere between Rs. 7 and Rs. 11 to reach hospitals in Chromepet and Pallavaram by Metropolitan Transport Corporation buses, but a train ticket costs only Rs. 4,” said C. Pushpa.

Southern Railway officials said ticket sales in Tambaram were the highest on the suburban sector. Monthly sales of tickets, which stood at 7.12 lakh in November 2010, went up to 7.5 lakh in November 2011, when the State government hiked bus fares.

In December 2011, it shot up to 8.37 lakh and In January this year, 8.71 lakh tickets were sold in Tambaram. Last month, the figure touched 8.26 lakh. Nearly 95 per cent of the tickets sold are on the suburban sector, while the remaining are to neighbouring and southern districts.

Southern Railway has also been unable to deploy adequate staff at the automatic ticket vending machines in the stations, due to lack of manpower, sources added.

Seeing all the above Posts RM expects only money rest of the facilities to the Bengal..
even our neighbors for that matter not getting fair deal...
now for Howra to Delhi they are going to try for online connectivity..what a shame on those fellows..main stations like central doesnt have pharmacy or internet cafe..
are we not paying the same tax as the fellow over there ...

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110829/jsp/business/story_14437645.jsp

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http://www.youtube.com/user/rsubram24

Seeing all the above Posts RM expects only money rest of the facilities to the Bengal..
even our neighbors for that matter not getting fair deal...
now for Howra to Delhi they are going to try for online connectivity..what a shame on those fellows..main stations like central doesnt have pharmacy or internet cafe..
are we not paying the same tax as the fellow over there ...

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110829/jsp/business/story_14437645.jsp

Porumai... Politician will jump to introduce in their home state first. But it will be inevitable that these ameneties get spread across nation as demand is always higher any corner.

BLR city station for ex. has wi-fi connection (but I have no idea where to get password, or which agencies to granting the acess. You can see them if you have gadget).

If I recall correctly, MAS had a wifi service a while ago, not sure if it still exists.

http://www.hindu.com/2011/04/26/stories/2011042661920200.htm (talks about renewing contract for wi-fi, so it did exist).

cross posting from chennai mrts project
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=91156681&postcount=1513

Come June and an MRTS station at Mundakanni Amman Koil, between Thirumailai and Light House stations, will finally be thrown open to commuters after a delay of over two years.

X posting from TN railway thread..
Hello Guys,

I have been a silent reader in this forum. I have decided to jump in. This is my FIRST POST!! I miss travelling in BG EMU trains since i used to go SRM - POTHERI in MG. But those days were fun - busy watching the GC work, etc.

Anyway i have thinking about the railway infrastructure needs of Chennai for some time:
1. MAS and MS are almost completely saturated with no room for expansion.
TAMBARAM - 3RD TERMINAL
2. TBM has to be developed very soon. Only problem with TBM is that North bound trains have to go thru MS. This means that people in west, north chennai have to come to MS to board the train. So, unfortunately MS-TBM section will be extra congested. Since 5th line is not feasible, i would prefer more fast EMU services between MSB - TBM - CGL utilizing the 3rd and 4th line.
3.West bound trains from TBM have to go thru CGL (Reversal) and Takkolam - AJJ alignment hasn't fruitified yet. I HOPE the tracks are laid in such a way that KPD bound train need not touch AJJ and RU bound train will utilize MELPAKKAM bypass. However, RU bound train will stop (MAS - KPD) traffic as crosses the MAS - KPD line.
4. Will Irumbuliyur ROB need to be altered for laying the 4th TBM - CGL line?
SRIPERUMBUDUR - 4TH TERMINAL
1. Why can't the Govt. build Mega GREENFIELD Stations similar to Mega Greenfield airports?? We already know that a new airport is coming up, why not build a train terminal to handle passengers going to smaller towns?
2. Because of the growth potential, Govt. planned a new AVADI – SRIPERUMBUDUR – GUDUVANCHERI line but I haven’t heard any recent updates on this project. See my pic below, Sriperumbudur will be able to handle trains in all directions as well as operate suburban trains to CGL, AVADI, TIRUVALLUR, KANCHI.
ROYAPURAM
1.Utilize some land available to stable trains from BBQ.
ATTIPATTU & BEYOND (5th TERMINAL)
1.Considering distant future needs, it’s better to carve out land at Attipattu or some station north as a terminal for North Bound trains.
CHENNAI (Perungudi)– CUDDALORE LINE
1.I haven’t heard any updates about this project. A Perungudi – Mahabalipuram (with a spur to CGL) rail line will do wonders. I guess deep South Chennai residents have to wait a long time to see suburban trains in their neighborhood.

I'll stop here. :) Let me know your thoughts/comments.


http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q522/HV1976/Sriperumbudur.png

Thanks!
Harish

Paavam TN threadla Chennaiku terminal venumnu post pannirukaru.. vidincha enna aagumo :lol:

del

Nanri Madraskaran!! Hopefully, my dreams come true....

Was going thro' wiki on mrts... saw the render that was envisaged for velachery station.. here..


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Proposed_Velachery_station.jpg/588px-Proposed_Velachery_station.jpg

they really proposed some extravagant structures that time!!! what a sad story it has turned out to be...

^^
and current status :)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9016/img4040vb.jpg

edho try pannirukanga but mudiyala so apdiye vittutanga pola

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLCBM3MYhyQ

Alight at Tirusulam for the airport’ (http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/%E2%80%98alight-at-tirusulam-for-the-airport%E2%80%99/393919.html)

CHENNAI : Train passengers bound for Chennai airport from the south of Tamil Nadu may soon be able to alight at the railway station diagonally opposite the aerodrome.

Minister of State for Railways K H Muniyappa has ordered authorities to augment for a stop at Tirusulam Railway Station for express and mail trains, allowing passengers to proceed directly to the city airport. He was addressing the gathering on the occasion of Anti-Terrorism Day at the Rajiv Gandhi Memorial in Sriperumpudur in neighbouring Kanchipuram district on Monday.

The Minister’s stress on a stop at Tirusulam is expected to end the hardship of passengers and visitors from southern districts who are forced to break their journey at the crowded Tambaram station to head for the airport.

Outbound travellers to different countries from central and southern parts of the State prefer to commute

by train to Chennai, thanks to the convenience and

the reasonable fare. Air passengers travelling by long distance trains alight at

Tambaram and avail other means of transport to the airport, which is about eight

kilometres from the Gateway of Chennai (Tambaram).

During this transition passengers must wait in serpentine queues at the suburban counters in Tambaram railway station to purchase tickets for electric multiple unit (EMU) trains. For those who want to avoid the difficult queues and opt for a bus, access to Metropolitan Transport Corporation fleets is almost a nightmare given the distance between the railway station and the bus terminus, and the heavy baggage. The other options are to shell out a few hundreds for a call taxi or get fleeced by autorickshaws.

In such a scenario, a stop at Tirusulam will help

passengers of about 20 daily express and mail trains bound for Chennai Egmore and almost five long

distance weekly trains bound for north and east India through Egmore. “Facilities like rest rooms will be built at Tirusulam,” S Anantharaman, Divisional Railway Manager, Chennai Division, Southern Railway said.

WOW!!!:applause::applause: fantastic googly from SR..

Metro, Suburban Railway, MRTS, Chennai Metroploitan Bus Service and soon to be built (!) Mono all are the positive's of Chennai Transportation.

But are they interconnected?.. I do not see Metro and Suburban Railway sharing a common Railway station (Ex..Meenambakkam & St Thomas Mount). A common Station would have aided in smooth movement of people between Suburban train, Metro and Bus Service as well as with MRTS as and when MRTS line to St.Thomas Mount gets completed.

Metro, Suburban Railway, MRTS, Chennai Metroploitan Bus Service and soon to be built (!) Mono all are the positive's of Chennai Transportation.

But are they interconnected?.. I do not see Metro and Suburban Railway sharing a common Railway station (Ex..Meenambakkam & St Thomas Mount). A common Station would have aided in smooth movement of people between Suburban train, Metro and Bus Service as well as with MRTS as and when MRTS line to St.Thomas Mount gets completed.

Not every mode can have interchanges at every other point.

Metro - Suburban (Fort-Highcourt, Central-Park, Egmore, Guindy, St Thomas Mount, Meenambakkam, Airport-Tirusulam)
Mono - Suburban ( Tambaram-East Tambaram)
Metro - MRTS (Central - Park)
Mono - MRTS (Velachery)
Metro - Mono (Kathipara-Alandur, Vadapalani)

Guess this is fairly significant number of interchanges amongst the different forms of rail based options that will be available in Chennai in few years time.

http://in.finance.yahoo.com/photos/bullet-train-may-connect-mysore-bangalore-in-30-mins-slideshow/the-10-fastest-trains-in-the-world-photo-1334908025.html
According to a Karnataka’s Large and Medium Industries Minister Murugesh Nirani, a detailed project report for the proposed high-speed bullet train from Chennai to Mysore via Bangalore will be ready by December.
The project would cost approximately Rs. 150 crore per kilometer, The Hindu reported earlier this month. The train, which will have a maximum speed of 350 kmph could connect Mysore from Bangalore in less than 30 minutes, the daily added.

Not every mode can have interchanges at every other point.

Metro - Suburban (Fort-Highcourt, Central-Park, Egmore, Guindy, St Thomas Mount, Meenambakkam, Airport-Tirusulam)
Mono - Suburban ( Tambaram-East Tambaram)
Metro - MRTS (Central - Park)
Mono - MRTS (Velachery)
Metro - Mono (Kathipara-Alandur, Vadapalani)

Guess this is fairly significant number of interchanges amongst the different forms of rail based options that will be available in Chennai in few years time.

Agreed we cannot have interchanges in every stop.

When i referred to Interchanges for Metro/Mono/Suburban/Bus.. The expectation was that these lines ends up in the same station Like Suburban in gound floor, MRTS in First floor and Mono/Metro either in second floor or in adjacent land but the station is part of the whole premises. So commuters do not get to travel outside the premises for interchanges. This can be done wherever possible to take the people out of vehicles and roads, but it doesnt seem to be the case here.

Take for ex: Metro does not share the same premises in Meenambakkam or Airport or in St Thomas Mount which if done would have been great if there is an interchange in any one of the above stations (definitely not all).

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Was going thro' wiki on mrts... saw the render that was envisaged for velachery station.. here..


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Proposed_Velachery_station.jpg/588px-Proposed_Velachery_station.jpg

they really proposed some extravagant structures that time!!! what a sad story it has turned out to be...

Wow, i took that photo at a fair in island grounds back in 2006

Wow, i took that photo at a fair in island grounds back in 2006

Arun, your fingerprints are all over Chennai related websites. On one side, I feel great about contributors like you, on the other side, I am pained at this plagiarism and lack of giving credit culture.

^^ Very true, but fortunately in this case its not plagiarism. Looks like Arun is the one who uploaded the picture in Wiki. Check here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Proposed_Velachery_station.jpg

Happened to watch this discussion about Tambaram terminal recently

Not sure if this video is already posted in thread. If so pls remove it.

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வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை பணி விரைவாக முடிக்க கிடுக்கிப்பிடி

http://img.dinamalar.com/data/large/Tamil_News_large_477828.jpg
வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை அமைக்கும் பணிகளை துரிதப்படுத்த வேண்டும் என்று ஒப்பந்ததாரர்களுக்கு ரயில்வே நிர்வாகம் கிடுக்கிப்பிடி போட்டுள்ளது.

சென்னை கடற்கரை - வேளச்சேரி இடையே மேம்பால ரயில் போக்குவரத்து நடந்து வருகிறது. இதில், தினமும் 50 ஆயிரத்திற்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் பயணம் செய்கின்றனர். வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை இடையே 496 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை அமைக்கும் பணி 2007ம் ஆண்டிலிருந்து நடந்து வருகிறது. பணிகள் 2010 ஆண்டுமுடிக்கப்பட்டு, ரயில் போக்குவரத்து துவங்கப்படும் என்றும் அப்போது, ரயில்வே நிர்வாகம் அறிவித்திருந்தது. ஆனால், இத்திட்டத்திற்கு, தில்லைகங்கா நகர் பகுதியில் இடம் கையகப்படுத்துவதில் ஏற்பட்ட சிக்கலால் பணிகள் மந்தகதியில் நடந்து வருகிறது.பிரச்னைஆதம்பாக்கம் தில்லை கங்கா நகரில் ஜீவன் நகர் மெயின்ரோடு மற்றும் 36 வது சாலை பகுதிகளில், 800 மீட்டர் தூரம் நிலம் கையகப்படுத்துவதில் பிரச்னை ஏற்பட்டு வழக்கு ஐகோர்ட்டில் நடந்து வருகிறது. கோர்ட் தீர்ப்பு இன்னும்,

20 நாட்களுக்குள் வர வாய்ப்புள்ளது. பொது நலன் கருதி நில உரிமையாளர்கள் சம்மதத்துடன், ரயில்வே நிர்வாகத்திற்கும் சாதகமான நிலை ஏற்படும் வகையில் தீர்ப்பு அமையலாம் என்று நம்பிக்கை இருக்கிறது. ஒப்பந்த நிறுவனங்கள் செய்து கொண்டிருக்கும் கட்டுமானப் பணிகளை விரைவாக முடிக்க வேண்டும் என்றும் ரயில்வே அதிகாரிகள் கேட்டுக்கொண்டுள்ளனர்.வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை இடையே வாணுவம் பேட்டை வரை தூண்கள் மீது ரயில் மேம்பாலம் அமைக்கும் பணி முடிவடைந்துவிட்டது. வாணுவம்பேட்டை - தில்லைகங்கா நகர் 36 வது தெரு வரை அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள, 34 தூண்கள் மீது மேம்பாலப் பணி துரிதப்படுத்தப்பட்டுள்ளது.கோர்ட் தீர்ப்பில் ரயில்வே கட்டுமானப் பணிக்கு தாமதமின்றி நிலம் கிடைத்தால், அந்த இடத்தில் பாதைப் பணிகள் 15 மாதங்களுக்குள் முழுவதுமாக முடிக்கப்பட்டுவிடும் என்று ஒப்பந்ததாரர்கள் தெரிவித்தனர்.

ரயில்வே அதிகாரி ஒருவர் கூறியதாவது:வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலையில் மேம்பால ரயில் திட்டத்தில், சென்னை கடற்கரை - தாம்பரம் ரயில் பாதைக்கு கிழக்கு பக்கம் தான் பரங்கிமலை மேம்பாலம் ரயில் நிலையம் அமைக்க முன்பு திட்டமிடப்பட்டிருந்தது. இப்பகுதியில் நிலையம் அமைப்பதற்கு தனியாரிடமிருந்து நிலம் கையகப் படுத்துவது சிரமம் என்ற நிலையில், மேற்கு பக்கம் மெட்ரோ ரயில் நிலைய வளாகத்திலேயே மேம்பால ரயில் நிலையமும் அமைக்க திட்டமிடப்பட்டு பணி துரிதமாக நடந்து வருகிறது.

மெட்ரோ ரயில்மெட்ரோ ரயில் திட்டத்தில் முதல் கட்டமாக கோயம்பேடு - பரங்கிமலை இடையே 2013 டிசம்பருக்குள் பணி முடிக் கப்பட்டு, ரயில் போக்குவரத்து நடத்துவதற்கு பணிகள் துரிதப்படுத்தப்பட்டுள்ள நிலையில், தில்லைகங்கா நகரில் மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை அமைப்பதற்கான நிலம் கையகப்படுத்துவது குறித்த வழக்கின் தீர்ப்பு, விரைவாக கிடைக்க வேண்டும் என்ற எதிர்பார்ப்பு உள்ளது. தீர்ப்பு சாதகமாக வந்தால், மெட்ரோ ரயில் நிலையம் அமைக்கும் பணி முடிவடைவதற்குள்ளாக, வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை பணியை முடிக்கவும் திட்டம் உள்ளது. இவ்வாறு அதிகாரி தெரிவித்தார்.

Source : http://www.dinamalar.com/district_detail.asp?id=477828

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Dinamalar photo - New Digital boards showing arrival & departure installed @ MAS. (Old ones started functioning again or really new ones?)

Ramesh

Travel travails set to end in city (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/travel-travails-set-to-end-in-city/264150-60-120.html)

No more standing in queues for tickets. No long wait to get home after a tiring day’s work. Commuting in Chennai will soon become easier with the implementation of Chennai Unified Metropolitan Transport Authority.

Initiated in 2010, the Chennai Unified Metropolitan Transport Authority (CUMTA) is slowly taking shape under the AIADMK regime, after some key deliberations and changes in the formation of the authority.

Experts feel this will make mobility quicker and simpler as the focus of CUMTA is to frame an urban transport policy for the Chennai Metropolitan Area on the lines of National Urban Transport Policy.

Interestingly, CUMTA came into being after National Urban Transport Policy (NUTP) was framed with a vision to make cities the engines of economic growth that power India’s development in the 21st century.

The Second Master Plan for the Chennai Metropolitan Area (CMA) emphasised the need for a Unified Metropolitan Transport Authority (UMTA) for Chennai, in its policies and strategies for setting up a unified institutional framework encompassing all modes. The salient features of CUMTA include monitoring the implementation of various traffic and transportation measures including promoting the cause of public mass passenger transport systems and regulating their operations, besides implementation of traffic and transportation infrastructure in the Chennai Metropolitan Area.

Sources said the focus is to make Chennai a world-class city particularly in the urban transportation sector through the effective functioning of CUMTA with the co-operation of all department heads and chiefs of line agencies.

Currently, the state government has 10 different agencies involved in traffic and transportation management in Chennai Metropolitan area, governed by various ministries and departments. Experts felt that since many agencies were involved in planning and providing operations and managing transportation system in the CMA, the role of such agencies overlap. This gave rise to the need for a unified agency for proper coordination and streamlining of activities among various agencies.

வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை பணி விரைவாக முடிக்க கிடுக்கிப்பிடி

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வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை அமைக்கும் பணிகளை துரிதப்படுத்த வேண்டும் என்று ஒப்பந்ததாரர்களுக்கு ரயில்வே நிர்வாகம் கிடுக்கிப்பிடி போட்டுள்ளது.

சென்னை கடற்கரை - வேளச்சேரி இடையே மேம்பால ரயில் போக்குவரத்து நடந்து வருகிறது. இதில், தினமும் 50 ஆயிரத்திற்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் பயணம் செய்கின்றனர். வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை இடையே 496 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை அமைக்கும் பணி 2007ம் ஆண்டிலிருந்து நடந்து வருகிறது. பணிகள் 2010 ஆண்டுமுடிக்கப்பட்டு, ரயில் போக்குவரத்து துவங்கப்படும் என்றும் அப்போது, ரயில்வே நிர்வாகம் அறிவித்திருந்தது. ஆனால், இத்திட்டத்திற்கு, தில்லைகங்கா நகர் பகுதியில் இடம் கையகப்படுத்துவதில் ஏற்பட்ட சிக்கலால் பணிகள் மந்தகதியில் நடந்து வருகிறது.பிரச்னைஆதம்பாக்கம் தில்லை கங்கா நகரில் ஜீவன் நகர் மெயின்ரோடு மற்றும் 36 வது சாலை பகுதிகளில், 800 மீட்டர் தூரம் நிலம் கையகப்படுத்துவதில் பிரச்னை ஏற்பட்டு வழக்கு ஐகோர்ட்டில் நடந்து வருகிறது. கோர்ட் தீர்ப்பு இன்னும்,

20 நாட்களுக்குள் வர வாய்ப்புள்ளது. பொது நலன் கருதி நில உரிமையாளர்கள் சம்மதத்துடன், ரயில்வே நிர்வாகத்திற்கும் சாதகமான நிலை ஏற்படும் வகையில் தீர்ப்பு அமையலாம் என்று நம்பிக்கை இருக்கிறது. ஒப்பந்த நிறுவனங்கள் செய்து கொண்டிருக்கும் கட்டுமானப் பணிகளை விரைவாக முடிக்க வேண்டும் என்றும் ரயில்வே அதிகாரிகள் கேட்டுக்கொண்டுள்ளனர்.வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை இடையே வாணுவம் பேட்டை வரை தூண்கள் மீது ரயில் மேம்பாலம் அமைக்கும் பணி முடிவடைந்துவிட்டது. வாணுவம்பேட்டை - தில்லைகங்கா நகர் 36 வது தெரு வரை அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள, 34 தூண்கள் மீது மேம்பாலப் பணி துரிதப்படுத்தப்பட்டுள்ளது.கோர்ட் தீர்ப்பில் ரயில்வே கட்டுமானப் பணிக்கு தாமதமின்றி நிலம் கிடைத்தால், அந்த இடத்தில் பாதைப் பணிகள் 15 மாதங்களுக்குள் முழுவதுமாக முடிக்கப்பட்டுவிடும் என்று ஒப்பந்ததாரர்கள் தெரிவித்தனர்.

ரயில்வே அதிகாரி ஒருவர் கூறியதாவது:வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலையில் மேம்பால ரயில் திட்டத்தில், சென்னை கடற்கரை - தாம்பரம் ரயில் பாதைக்கு கிழக்கு பக்கம் தான் பரங்கிமலை மேம்பாலம் ரயில் நிலையம் அமைக்க முன்பு திட்டமிடப்பட்டிருந்தது. இப்பகுதியில் நிலையம் அமைப்பதற்கு தனியாரிடமிருந்து நிலம் கையகப் படுத்துவது சிரமம் என்ற நிலையில், மேற்கு பக்கம் மெட்ரோ ரயில் நிலைய வளாகத்திலேயே மேம்பால ரயில் நிலையமும் அமைக்க திட்டமிடப்பட்டு பணி துரிதமாக நடந்து வருகிறது.

மெட்ரோ ரயில்மெட்ரோ ரயில் திட்டத்தில் முதல் கட்டமாக கோயம்பேடு - பரங்கிமலை இடையே 2013 டிசம்பருக்குள் பணி முடிக் கப்பட்டு, ரயில் போக்குவரத்து நடத்துவதற்கு பணிகள் துரிதப்படுத்தப்பட்டுள்ள நிலையில், தில்லைகங்கா நகரில் மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை அமைப்பதற்கான நிலம் கையகப்படுத்துவது குறித்த வழக்கின் தீர்ப்பு, விரைவாக கிடைக்க வேண்டும் என்ற எதிர்பார்ப்பு உள்ளது. தீர்ப்பு சாதகமாக வந்தால், மெட்ரோ ரயில் நிலையம் அமைக்கும் பணி முடிவடைவதற்குள்ளாக, வேளச்சேரி - பரங்கிமலை மேம்பால ரயில் பாதை பணியை முடிக்கவும் திட்டம் உள்ளது. இவ்வாறு அதிகாரி தெரிவித்தார்.

Source : http://www.dinamalar.com/district_detail.asp?id=477828

If the sentence which is expected to come in 20 days( as per the above article) comes in favour of SR, i ll break 101 coconuts in Birmingham here ;-)

If the sentence which is expected to come in 20 days( as per the above article) comes in favour of SR, i ll break 101 coconuts in Birmingham here ;-)

Birmingham Vinayagar arul ungalukku endrum undu..

Railway track connection to PF 3 and 4 has commenced in the northern corner in tambaram. Once completed there will be 9 platforms in tambaram situable to operate long distance trains from Tambaram

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4th PF
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By ceeznic2 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/ceeznic2) at 2012-06-17

3rd PF
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By ceeznic2 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/ceeznic2) at 2012-06-18

^^ On a different note, I wish SR keeps enough and well maintained dust-bins on the platform so our people stop using the tracks as trash-cans.. :(

MRTS: A wreck of a system
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article3567349.ece

If you are new to Chennai or a first time user of the Mass Rapid Transit System (MRTS) – an elevated train connecting Beach and Velachery — the following guide may help:

If you have entered Thiruvanmiyur station near the TIDEL park junction, do not get lost looking for the ticket counter. It is at the farthest end, but walk carefully. Do not park your vehicle in the basement unless you are trained in a circus. Watch out when you step out, the buzzing roads kiss the exit. Do not mind the cows at the Perungudi station, they never cause any harm. But do not trust the water coolers. Wait until you reach Mylapore where you will find the only vending stall. If you want a smooth ride to Marina beach or the Parthasarathy temple, do not get down in Triplicane – it floats over the Buckingham sewer. If you are desperate, you can use the toilet at the Kasturba Nagar station, but get out as quickly as you can.

Beach station is bound to offer you a sense of relief. The platforms are on grade. Though it is a long walk to the entrance, at least it is safe. There is a coffee vending machine that is manually operated.

For those who want to travel after seven in the night, only statistics can be comforting. Guided more by intuition than by bright lights, commuters have been reaching their respective platforms safely. So far, not many have reported the breaking of legs due to groping in the dark.

All these tips are for those who are able to and can climb three steep floors. Senior citizens and the disabled: forget your desire to use the MRTS. Lifts, escalators and other things mechanical are often under repair. But I have to admit that I do not mind the winding queue to buy tickets in Velachery nor the long wait for the D70 bus to take me home from the station. I can endure them since the roads are choked; the 21L bus to the office is packed; and the office is only a three-minute walk from the Chintadripet station.

Sum and substance of the MRTS: squalor, ruin and wreck. That is if you overlook the fourth point – its crawling pace of construction.

Forty years on and still incomplete, the MRTS probably holds the dubious record for the most-delayed infrastructural project in the country. But it was not a bad project when it started.

In 197I, when it was first conceptualised, the MRTS was one of the most ambitious projects in the city. It was meant to connect the Beach Station with St. Thomas Mount and then continue to link Villivakkam and go beyond to complete the circle, by connecting Tiruvottiyur. Some of the best talents were commissioned to design it.

Delays and changes messed it up; cost escalated and the network shrank to be of less use.

The first phase covering a distance of about 9 km (Beach to Mylapore) estimated to cost Rs. 55 crore in 1984, was finished in 1997 at a cost of Rs. 269 crore. When the second phase (Mylapore to Velachery) was completed in 2007, construction cost of the 11 km stretch had phenomenally increased to Rs. 777 crore. The link between Velachery and St. Thomas Mount is still being built. None of the stations are complete. The Villivakam-Tiruvottiyur project is as good as dropped.

The brisk pace of the Metro Rail construction is assuring. But it has not learnt the lessons from the MRTS — an inadequate network length, poor planning for modal transfers and lack of integration with the surrounding areas plague the Metro Rail too. But that is another story.

The State, which is spending thousands of crores on Metro, should spend a few tens to complete the MRTS tracks and make the stations safe and commuter-friendly. Will the government do it?



MRTS was one of the most ambitious projects in the city when first conceptualised