Abidjan Disussion Thread - Cote D'Ivoire [Archive]

boris89

November 23rd, 2007, 12:03 AM

I found it.....

ARTICLE DU 22 NOVEMBRE FROM NOTRE VOIE

Financement de la CICF: Arthur Grobri (PDG) : “Les Ivoiriens seront sollicités”
La Compagnie ivoirienne des chemins de fer va bientôt démarrer ses activités. Dans cette interview, le PDG, M. Arthur Grobri, explique tout ce qui est fait autour de cette phase active.

Notre Voie : Monsieur le président, tout le monde attend avec impatience le lancement des activités de la Compagnie ivoirienne des chemins de fer…
Arthur Grobri : Vous avez dû remarquer que des spots passent à la télé invitant les contribuables à faire des suggestions sur le fonctionnement du tramway à Abidjan. Le tramway en Côte d’Ivoire, ce n’est pas un rêve que nous voulons vendre aux Ivoiriens. C’est une réalité qui sera bientôt visible. Le tramway, c’est du nouveau en Côte d’Ivoire. Il faut donc sensibiliser la population abidjanaise sur ce nouveau mode de transport qui va certainement changer ses habitudes de déplacement. Cette politique de sensibilisation, nous l’avons jugée indispensable avant de lancer nos activités.
Nous sommes justement en train de concocter un programme de simulation pour préparer les esprits. C’est l’action de communication entreprise qui a commencé à la télé. Dans quelques jours, des panneaux publicitaires vont suivre, des encartages dans la presse écrite également. Nous avançons méthodiquement parce qu’il s’agit de chemin de fer, un secteur particulièrement délicat à l’instar du transport aérien.
La simulation va certainement causer des désagréments à la population parce que c’est nouveau. Mais, les gens vont finir par s’y habituer. A ce sujet, nous avons saisi les services compétents du District d’Abidjan à l’effet de prendre une part active à la campagne de sensibilisation. Le tramway, c’est pour bientôt ! Nous avons reçu des promesses fermes de financement, mais nous voudrons d’abord compter sur la contribution des Ivoiriens.

N.V. : On évoque justement le financement de la CICF comme un frein…
A.G. : Il y a des privés européens qui sont prêts à entrer dans le capital. Il faut éviter de tendre la main à l’extérieur. Il faut se départir du statut d’éternel assisté alors que, c’est connu, c’est l’Afrique qui soutient l’Europe. La Côte d’Ivoire est un pays porteur de marché ferroviaire, et chaque Ivoirien est amené à jouer sa partition sur ce marché.
Faisons un simple calcul. Abidjan compte en moyenne 6 millions d’habitants. Si les 70% de la population (4,2 millions d’habitants) qui se déplacent tous les jours dépensent en moyenne 2000 FCFA, le volume total du transport s’élève à 8,4 milliards FCFA par jour. En 1 mois, cela fait 252 milliards FCFA, ou encore 3024 milliards FCFA l’année. Or la CICF ne cherche que 655 milliards FCFA auprès des contribuables ivoiriens. Au lieu d’emprunter à l’extérieur et de rembourser environ 9000 milliards FCFA, nous préférons rembourser aux Ivoiriens. La collecte nationale est donc, dans l’esprit, une façon pour la CICF de s’assumer, de jouir d’une liberté d’action au cours des négociations, d’être maître de ses choix sur le marché ferroviaire, d’offrir un salaire décent au personnel. L’Etat, les collectivités locales, les personnes physiques sont donc attendues.
Entrer dans le capital de la CICF, c’est participer en toute sécurité au développement du pays.

N.V. : Où en est-on avec l’étude de faisabilité ?
A.G. : L’étude avance et se situe maintenant à 30%. L’occasion m’est donnée de rappeler aux uns et aux autres, notamment les responsables du développement local, que nous attendons les contributions qui avaient été promises. De toutes les façons, quand le tramway sera en activité, la CICF va verser des redevances à l’image de son rayonnement. Donc, rien n’est perdu.

N.V. : Quelles leçons tirez-vous de la mission que vous avez effectuée récemment auprès de l’Office national des chemins de fer de Rabat ?
A.G. : Le Maroc a fait l’option du développement ferroviaire. Il s’est donné les moyens de réaliser 4 km de voie par mois. La Côte d’Ivoire revendique cent ans de train pour 100 km de voie, soit en moyenne 1 km posé par an. Nous pensons que nous avons pris du retard. Il faut rattraper ce retard. C‘est en cela que l’expérience marocaine peut nous être utile.
Par ailleurs, le Maroc est un pays voisin de l’Europe. Sa population a donc une tradition de train. Le Maroc est également un pays africain. A ce double titre, il était nécessaire pour la CICF de chercher à découvrir l’expérience marocaine. En plus, nous avons appris avec plaisir que l’ONCF est l’une des rares entreprises de chemin de fer à réaliser des bénéfices d’exploitation. Le chiffre d’affaires de l’Office est constitué à 60% de l’exploitation du phosphore. Pour aller d’un point de production à un point d’exportation, le train met peu de temps, et en toute sécurité.
En Côte d’Ivoire, ce ne sont pas les matières premières qui manquent. Grâce au tramway qui, dans sa phase terminale, va couvrir le territoire national, on pourra exporter des produits bord champ, par exemple.

Matthias Offodile

January 28th, 2008, 05:29 PM

Whoahhh Un tramway a abidjan!! En + c'est le citadis qui est à Bordeaux!!
Geniaaaaaaaaaallllll Ca commence quand?, j'ai toujours pensé qu'une ville comme abidjan pouvait avoir un mode de transport moderne qui irait bien avec sa skyline qui est THE BEST OF AFRICA!!!!!

As long as the dictator is still there and relatively peaceful elections haven´t taken place...this project won´t happen. Investors want secirity before ANYTHING lese.

Moi, je desteste Gbagbo de tout mon coeur, j´suis desolé! Il a détruit a appauvrit la belle Côte d´ivoire, le pays de l´Esperance dans une Afrique troublée. Moi, j´espère qu´il va disparaître bientôt de la scène politique mais je le doute. La Côte d´ivoire a besoin d´un Jerry Rawlings pour faire le ménage dans ce pays mérveilleux avec ses gens aimables.

Khalfani

January 28th, 2008, 07:39 PM

The deal is done. Are you ready to rumble?????????????
http://cicf-iv.com/images/2.jpg

That's what I want to see: Africans handling their own with little foreign assistance.

Alloukou

February 23rd, 2008, 02:26 AM

http://news.abidjan.net/photos/photos/SOTRA6.jpg

Alloukou

February 25th, 2008, 01:16 AM

As long as the dictator is still there and relatively peaceful elections haven´t taken place...this project won´t happen. Investors want secirity before ANYTHING lese.

Moi, je desteste Gbagbo de tout mon coeur, j´suis desolé! Il a détruit a appauvrit la belle Côte d´ivoire, le pays de l´Esperance dans une Afrique troublée. Moi, j´espère qu´il va disparaître bientôt de la scène politique mais je le doute. La Côte d´ivoire a besoin d´un Jerry Rawlings pour faire le ménage dans ce pays mérveilleux avec ses gens aimables.Jealous Crocodile ofodile, please stay out of this thread. We've closed already 2 Ivory Coast photo galleries because of your rant against President Laurent Gbagbo. I have told you many times, if you want to discuss politics, tell me where to meet you. I am ready to talk about your stinking Nigeria.

This is a 'photo only' thread. Please get your stinky ass out of here.
Thanks for your cooperation.
A+

pappy

February 25th, 2008, 01:25 AM

Jealous Crocodile ofodile, please stay out of this thread. We've closed already 2 Ivory Coast photo galleries because of your rant against President Laurent Gbagbo. I have told you many times, if you want to discuss politics, tell me where to meet you. I am ready to talk about your stinking Nigeria.

This is a 'photo only' thread. Please get your stinky ass out of here.
Thanks for your cooperation.
A+

I respect Ivory Coast, alot of Nigerians respect Ivory Coast. If you have a problem with Matt then you bring that up to him and him only but try not to insult Nigeria because we're moving past this hate. Thanks.

P.S: very nice pics, I feel proud for your country.

Alloukou

February 25th, 2008, 02:02 AM

popa1980

February 25th, 2008, 10:07 AM

And Matthias would be the first one to protest if someone politicised one of "his threads"! (I do agree with him though regarding Gbagbo)

Matthias Offodile

February 25th, 2008, 06:00 PM

Alloukou, lèche mon c.u.l!!!! C´est à cause des gens comme toi que le pays va aux enfers mais continue de lécher le cul sale de n chérie, Mr. Gbagbo! Moi, je le deteste si cela te plaît ou pas, cela m´est égal!

Alors, je prend mes distances vis-à-vis de ce que tu nous montres ici parce que cela ne correpond pas à la réalité.

Bonne chance

Continuez de montrer des belles photos, Mr le Président!!!!

Matthias Offodile

February 25th, 2008, 06:38 PM

Sorry bro, but this Crocodile ofodile guy gets on my nerve. Everytime we have an Ivory Coat photo gallery, he comes in to denigrate the country.
He created the first Ivory pix thread but it was to put the country down with his negative comment on almost every picture... I got the Site Admin to close that thread.

When I created a new Ivory Coast Gallery, he came back in to spew his hatred again. We had to close it and re-start. The Site Admin told him to stay out of the Ivory Coast photo Gallery with his politics... But he couldn't help it. He is back. He's starting his political rant here again.

Toute mes excuses a toi si je t'ai offense.
Merci.

Don´t make a fuss out of nothing.

Well, I didn´t denigrate anything ( but your comments just worked up on me again) I just said that I don´t like Gbagbo but I said that I like the Ivory Coast and its people. The same is with countries like France, I don´t like Sarkozy but I like France as a country. I don´t like Bush but I like many things that are American or that is associated with the American way of life. Do you get what I am driving at?

I think that your beautiful country to which I still feel drawn to desserves better than a Mr Gbagbo, you have very good politicians in the background but they are not allowed to run the country. This is my opinion, Sorry If you can´t share it.

As opposed to you, I seem to have the capacity to distinguish clearly between countries and its people, landscapes etc.

So just forget my point of view, we have discussed this over and over again and your point of view as well as mine differ greatly and are both unalterable.

So continue to show us your nice pics

PEACE

StormShadow

February 25th, 2008, 08:53 PM

I like this city, it has it's crowded skyline, composed of medium buildings, modern structures.

A little flashback if you don't mind me mentioning, I remember I had a computer strategy game for "Sega CD" titled "Third World War" and certain countries were available for a playing role, 2 African one's too, Libya and South Africa. Anyway the "Cote d'Ivoire" was an unplayable state in the game but one could invest or invade or sign certain treaties with the country. I recall invading the capital and I noticed that it had nice buildings, a nice skyline and highway system, it was portrayed quite well in the game if you ask me, and it motivated me to look for images on the net of this city. This is way before high speed connection and SkyScraperCity itself. :)

Alloukou

February 25th, 2008, 09:13 PM

Crocodile ofodile, take your politics out of here. I will Report your rants to the Site Admin again. But before, let me inform all the people that read your stupid rants.

Gbagbo is the best thing that happened to Ivory Coast since Houphouet's death. Before he took office, your God Allassane Ouattara had emptied the government coffers after just 3 years as prime minister. when Ouattara was leaving, he declared and I quote: "Les caisses de l'Etat sont vides". Translations: "the country is broke".
At the same time, he had become multi-billionnaire in CFA.

Then came Konan Bedie and the disaster continued... by 1997, the World bank, the IFM, all international financial institutions had left Ivory Coast. All banks were closing. Abidjan was falling a part.

Gbagbo was elected in 2000. By October 2002, just under 2 years of effective power, Ivory Coast was rich again. He forced all the foreign companies to pay their taxes. He opened their accounts to see how they were ripping off the country.

And before we knew it, money was flowing in the governement account again; banks started opening again.
For the first time in its short history, Ivory Coast was not dependint on the IMF loan to finance it's economy. Ivory Coast was operating what the then minister of Economy called "budget securise", which means, we'll finance every thing we do, without foreign financial backing.
The french, who never gave the regime Gbagbo to last more than 3 months, were stunned.

The IFM publicly congratulated Gbagbo for a job well done. That's the victory that angered France. Gbagbo declared on national television, in front of the whole country, in English, his now famous: "Cote d'Ivoire is back".
Crocodile Ofodile, that's the short history of Ivory Coast.

But France had not said its last word. It was expecting a Gbagbo failure so that it could place its man, Allassane ouattara in power. As it turned out, Gbagbo had earned the trust of the Ivorians by putting the country back on track. The only response the French came up with was to arm his political opponent Ouattara to overthrow the regime in September 2002. The coup failed, my dear Crocodile Ofodile and the country was split in 2.

The French again predicted that that part of Ivory coast under Gbgbo's control would be bankrupt by December 2002. It didn't happen.

They predicted again that the country would be down on its knees by December 2003. He didn't happen. Just the opposit.

The revenue we lost from Diamond and the gold fields, from cotton farms in the North occupied by the rebels, was replaced by new oil exploration in the South. Oil price was going through the roof in the world, as Ivory Coast had started to join, though in a modest fashion, the class of oil producers. The price of Coffee and cocoa was up. Gbagbo could afford to by war planes, weapon of all kinds to equip the army, while paying the salaries of all gouvernment employees, despite the war. That's a FIRST in Africa. Many war torn african countries cannot pay they employees or conduct any government project.

Despite the war, Gbagbo completed the new Parlement Hotel in Yamoussokro, the new National Assembly and the new presidential palace in Yamoussokro were going up, the highway to reach Yamoussokro was under construction, the new tramway project, and many others initiatives were underway. Again, Crocodile Ofodile, it's a First in Africa.

Crocodile Ofodile, the French could not let Gbagbo work for 5 straight years. Because the French were losing the major construction contracts to the Americans, the Chinese, the Germans, the Italian.
That's why they demonized Gbagbo and attacked his regime just under 2 years after he took office.

But our spirit is strong, despite people like you that sing the rebel songs with their ally France.

I wrote all this to close this chapter. I asked you many times to tell me where to meet you to discuss politics. But you keep butting your ugly head in this photo thread to spew your rebel speeches.

Please stay out of this thread. And stop posting pictures that have already been posted here. Please delete all your posts from MY thread. Thanks.

Matthias Offodile

February 25th, 2008, 10:16 PM

I won´t enlarge on this one because when I would this thread will end up closed again. I have enough articles and links to prove the opposite and many are NON- French reports on the Ivory Coast. These reports were done by American, various African, English and German scientists. Moreover, independent UN statistics all tell different story of your country.

And when it comes to Mr. Gbagbo "fighting the French"...this is just hilarious. Read this, very revealing stuff, the very same Gbagbo is supported by the French international socialist:http://www.lexpress.fr/info/monde/dossier/cotedivoire/dossier.asp?ida=358275

I could easily litter this thread full of them. I have uploaded enough material that shows the opposite.

Why do you think that the US has put a ban on certain people in your country? Like Blé Goudé among others...the very same guy that fights French but has a big villa in the South of France, the very same country that he declared war upon..

But you act just like a well paid government politician (just like the ardently blind devoters of Robert Mugabe´s regime that hasn´t woken up to the reliaty on the ground)

Do your really think that French did all this because they lost a fucking bridge and a road contract? The French has lost the port of Dakar to Dubai investors, so do they go about and "destroy" Senegal? in your logic, they should. (The problems in Ivory Coast were long-term and din´t arise in 2002) Furthermore you have to learn a lot about foreign trade and economics, my dear. because a large French department store like Galleries Laffayette has a higher turnover than your entire country.

And when it comes to foreign trade betwen France and Africa, their interest is principally centred around South Africa and Nigeria. read and check statistics carefully and stop telling the crap from "Radio Trechville": http://www.dree.org

Who controls the cocoa, oil sector etc.? French economic interest in the Ivory Coast is on the decline since the early 90´s, so long before Gbagbo came to power.

As for new the parlimant building, it was principally paid by Chinese funds.

....independent reports all point to a different direction!!! I am not short of material.

When you go to the internet forum and read what the people say, they are generally fed up with Gbagbo and "la refondation" has failed miserably.

Anyway, back to the topic!

I even continued with photos but you took up the debate!

So let´s turn the page.

Alloukou

February 25th, 2008, 10:51 PM

Delete your photos... all of them have already been posted here.
And for your rants, your source are all from the same ouattara paid propaganda machines that spread them around the world.
Gbagbo is here because the French faild to take him out. Did you know that the French army shot at the Gbagbo residence to force him outside? No, you don't read all that in your french/ouattara propaganda.
For every source you have, I can cite you 2 that say just the opposit.
And as I said many times, if you want to discuss politics, tell me where to meet you. We can debate Ivory coast and Nigeria all you want.
Now please delete all your pictures and messages from the Gallery.
Thanks.

Matthias Offodile

February 25th, 2008, 11:13 PM

Yes, blablabla, you don´t have to tell me anything because my parent´s friends had to flee Abidjan in 2004! (one was a German lady married to a Nigerian , the other a French lady married to an Ivorian couple the latter lived there for more than 30 years). I am more than well aware of what was and is going on in your country and the biggest lie is your president and his monstruous wife! Belive me, I do hope that durable peace returns to your country.

Let´s close the debate.

For my part I offer you pics now!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1133/1351201678_4dff25c3e2_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2400/2220638937_16dec7696e_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/2220686657_736df56401_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/1351205076_044b951ddf_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/2220613655_3bc62a3ea8_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/2220620957_7b8bf23fc5_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/2220601379_0aba2630c1_b.jpg

Lagbuja

March 5th, 2008, 02:02 AM

Bien, mais, l'Abidjan a besoin des immeubles nouveaux.
Good, but, Adidjan needs new buildings.

L'Abidjan est devenir tres vielle et il a besoin d'aider, maintenant!
Abidjan is becoming very old and it needs help, now!

Axelferis

March 7th, 2008, 10:44 PM

Les travaux ont commence. Tu n'as pas vu la carte du trajet?

où cails ont commencé?? et qul traway y'aura? celui de la photo?

kulani

April 20th, 2008, 09:26 PM

bump this thread up. since i just met a gal from Abidjan

:lol::lol:

Lagbuja

April 23rd, 2008, 05:03 PM

Abidjan definately is the potential to be the best looking city in Africa outside of South Africa. Luanda also has a beautiful skyline but it lacks variety, Luanda can put up 25 more (15-35 floor) buildings but it wouldn't have variety in its skyline like Abidjan.

Abidjan has buildings built in the 1970's and 1980's and were made to look very beautiful and modern. Lagos, Kinshasa and Lusaka also had some buildings built in this time frame, but don't look anything as good as the ones in Abidjan (especially that golden building). If Abidjan just put up 1 or maybe 2 new glass style buildings than SHEBANG, it is the best looking city in Africa. Abidjan just needs a little facelift.
Variety is what makes a skyline attractive, what do you think NYC will look like is all its buildings were built in the same time period, it would look boring and kind of like a light blue glass wall.

Special note (Those glass buildings have to be 30-48 floors).

Matthias Offodile

April 24th, 2008, 11:02 AM

Lagbuja, the number of new buildings being built in Luanda will be staggering, don´t forget that!

Alloukou

April 27th, 2008, 02:31 AM

construction underway
http://news.abidjan.net/photos/photos/Chantier%20%285%29%20%28Large%29.jpg

deminath

May 1st, 2008, 03:05 PM

The new US embacy. It was inaugurated in 2004. It's the biggest and the most sophisticated US embacy in Africa and probably in the world. It's slated to be the eyes and ears of the US on the West Coast of Africa, and probably all over the continent.
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8341/wwwjfini1zi.jpg

It's a big lie!! the same type is in Bamako Mali, in Conakry Guinea and many more places and i have seen all of them.

So stop propagating lies

Note: i registered because i saw the false information

kulani

May 2nd, 2008, 03:43 PM

It's a big lie!! the same type is in Bamako Mali, in Conakry Guinea and many more places and i have seen all of them.

So stop propagating lies

Note: i registered because i saw the false information

Here's what the US Embassy themselves think

US Opens the Largest Embassy in West Africa (07/12/05)
http://abidjan.usembassy.gov/us_opens_the_largest_embassy_in_west_africa_07/12/05.html

(ABIDJAN) July 12, 2005 - Côte d’Ivoire President Laurent Gbagbo, U.S. Ambassador Aubrey Hooks, and General Charles Williams, Director of the U.S. Department of State’s Overseas Buildings Operations (OBO), officially opened the new embassy of the United States of America in Côte d’Ivoire, during a ceremony held today at the chancery in Abidjan. The new embassy is the largest American embassy in West Africa. The ceremony marks the completion of more than three years of intensive efforts by Americans and Ivoirians, who collaborated together to construct a landmark symbol to the strength of relations and the possibilities of partnership between the United States and Côte d’Ivoire.

"This magnificent new building is a symbol of American values and of the commitment of the United States of America to the future of Côte d’Ivoire and the countries of West Africa," remarked Ambassador Hooks in inaugurating the new building.

300 dignitaries and over 350 American and Ivoirian employees of the embassy looked on as President Gbagbo, Ambassador Hooks, and General Williams cut the ribbon to ceremoniously open the 21,845 square-meter facility in the Riviera neighborhood of Abidjan. The project cost over 90 million USD and will house almost all of the offices of the United States Government in Côte d’Ivoire. This embassy will also serve as a model for all American embassies around the world.

"The design of this office building is so exemplary, that we have developed from it a standard embassy model of which OBO is now using for all our new buildings worldwide. This recognition began here with you in Cote d'Ivoire," added General Williams. "In this building, we showcase American architectural design at its finest, wrought by the highest standard and quality of construction."

While serving as a worldwide model, the design of the new embassy is locally inspired. The exterior patterns of the building reflect the style of traditional African fabrics and the interior of the facility includes quilts from the American state of Alabama, with heavy influences from West African art.

kulani

May 2nd, 2008, 04:04 PM

The largest embassy in Africa is Pretoria (South Africa) with over 1,000 personnel. The other big embassies are Nairobi (Kenya), Addis Ababa (Ethiopia) and Abidjan (Ivory Coast) in order of size.

Also note that during the Bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Kenya had so much FBI and other spies at its embassy, that it become the largest US diplomatic mission in sub-saharan africa.

angcammoc

May 3rd, 2008, 03:26 AM

Ivory coast needs to renew their buildings as soon as possible...their buildings look so damn old.....

Alloukou

May 16th, 2008, 05:03 AM

Ivory coast needs to renew their buildings as soon as possible...their buildings look so damn old.....Ivory Coast is doing fine. Go to BBC and read the news in Africa today May 15.

Gabaoman

May 17th, 2008, 10:59 PM

Ivory Coast is doing fine. Go to BBC and read the news in Africa today May 15.

Salut mon frère, j´suis Gabonnais et très fier de l´être! J´adore Abidjan, c´est la plus belle ville d´Afrique (à part de LBV, ma ville natale)

Vive la belle Côte d´ivoire!

Alloukou

May 18th, 2008, 02:18 AM

Merci le frere. Y a rien de mal a aimer son propre village avant tout.

mike7743

May 18th, 2008, 04:46 AM

Here's what the US Embassy themselves think

US Opens the Largest Embassy in West Africa (07/12/05)
http://abidjan.usembassy.gov/us_opens_the_largest_embassy_in_west_africa_07/12/05.html

(ABIDJAN) July 12, 2005 - Côte d’Ivoire President Laurent Gbagbo, U.S. Ambassador Aubrey Hooks, and General Charles Williams, Director of the U.S. Department of State’s Overseas Buildings Operations (OBO), officially opened the new embassy of the United States of America in Côte d’Ivoire, during a ceremony held today at the chancery in Abidjan. The new embassy is the largest American embassy in West Africa. The ceremony marks the completion of more than three years of intensive efforts by Americans and Ivoirians, who collaborated together to construct a landmark symbol to the strength of relations and the possibilities of partnership between the United States and Côte d’Ivoire.

"This magnificent new building is a symbol of American values and of the commitment of the United States of America to the future of Côte d’Ivoire and the countries of West Africa," remarked Ambassador Hooks in inaugurating the new building.

300 dignitaries and over 350 American and Ivoirian employees of the embassy looked on as President Gbagbo, Ambassador Hooks, and General Williams cut the ribbon to ceremoniously open the 21,845 square-meter facility in the Riviera neighborhood of Abidjan. The project cost over 90 million USD and will house almost all of the offices of the United States Government in Côte d’Ivoire. This embassy will also serve as a model for all American embassies around the world.

"The design of this office building is so exemplary, that we have developed from it a standard embassy model of which OBO is now using for all our new buildings worldwide. This recognition began here with you in Cote d'Ivoire," added General Williams. "In this building, we showcase American architectural design at its finest, wrought by the highest standard and quality of construction."

While serving as a worldwide model, the design of the new embassy is locally inspired. The exterior patterns of the building reflect the style of traditional African fabrics and the interior of the facility includes quilts from the American state of Alabama, with heavy influences from West African art.

so we show our commitment to Africa by building a bigger embassy?

LOL..wow

-hangs head in shame-

Alloukou

May 20th, 2008, 01:20 AM

il y a trop de jaloux en Afrique.
This is a picture thread. If you want to talk politics, tell me what country you are from and let me know where to meet you.
Thanks.

mike7743

May 20th, 2008, 08:24 AM

from U.S, but no thank you I don't want to talk to you about politics (if that was sarcastically directed at me)

just passing by...

angcammoc

May 21st, 2008, 02:54 PM

To be honest, it looks like abidjan is being ignored by the governmentwhen it comes to construction. Thier government is only cncerned in the construction for Yammousoukro and Abidjan's buildings are looking very 80' same goes to the city decorations (very 80's). It used to b called the paris of africa but i don't see it anymore...the government should also focus on abidjan and not only yammousukro (where there is a great deal of construction)...it is no different than what it used to be in the 80's-90's

Matthias Offodile

June 22nd, 2008, 11:06 PM

http://photo.ringo.com/126/126644882RL513181039.jpg

inside one of the numerous big supermarkets in Abidjan

http://photo.ringo.com/126/126644466RL127171075.jpg

http://photo.ringo.com/8/8658467RL707328468.jpg

Matthias Offodile

June 24th, 2008, 10:24 PM

Abidjan Nightlife Scence Shots in June 2008...

Abidjan people ..as always sooooo fashionable
:cheers::cheers:

all in Zone 4 Abidjan, Rue Princesse etc which are all packed with clubs, discos bars and even strip clubs everything

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Augusto

August 21st, 2008, 04:10 AM

Getting rid of the old buses. The new ones are in, slick and loonnnnnng.
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This Renault PR180 seems to be in very good condition despite its age. It should be more than 25 years old as I have not seen them in Paris since almost 10 years. Are they second hand buses from France? Are there still SC10 from France in operation?
Est ce que les bus sont toujours dégradés par des jeunes qui font des boro d'enjaillement?

vfG

January 19th, 2009, 08:52 AM

KQV208

January 19th, 2009, 10:29 AM

Am sure they will in due time.

Matthias Offodile

January 19th, 2009, 10:36 PM

Abidjan is the reflect of a nice past ... i think we will wait some years before seeing Luandesques or Lagosesques projects in côte d'ivoire ... this contry (like Angola) is coming out of a national crysis ...

Abidjan was once called the "paris of Africa" or the pearl of the lagune for its beauty...hopefully, it will get back to where it once was...but the road will be a steep one.

people always said "no we don´t live in Africa, we live in the Ivory Coast".....ask older Ivorians if you don´t believe me...because so many things were functioning

dwdwone

February 5th, 2009, 03:19 AM

Hi. Can anyone tell me if the light rail line has started construction yet?

Abidrovia

February 5th, 2009, 04:04 AM

If Abidjan just had two modern skyscrapers (35-50 floors in height), and one tower that stands out (60 floors), than it would definately be the best looking African skyline outside of South Africa.

Matthias Offodile

February 5th, 2009, 03:00 PM

If Abidjan just had two modern skyscrapers (35-50 floors in height), and one tower that stands out (60 floors), than it would definately be the best looking African skyline outside of South Africa.

Eh, you probably mean outside of Jo´Hannesburg. Cape town skyline is good but not so hugely impressive like than of Jo´Burg.

There was an approved tower that was about to be built in the 1990´s. it was called "Tour de l´Elephant". Bedié wanted to build it, it should have had close to 70 floors and should have come to symbolize the weath of an economy that grew by 7 percent on average from 1994-1998....well, we all knew what happend to these high-flying dreams.

A lost decade followed.

angcammoc

February 7th, 2009, 01:58 AM

If Abidjan just had two modern skyscrapers (35-50 floors in height), and one tower that stands out (60 floors), than it would definately be the best looking African skyline outside of South Africa.

I DON'T THINK SO, Abidjan used to be developed at its time in the 80's but many cities in Africa are developing ahead of Abidjan, Abidjan is very highly overrated and i don't even see the shit she's got. Yes she was nice in the 80's but i don't think Abidjan is that nice anymore.

Abidrovia

February 7th, 2009, 02:06 AM

I'm talking about in terms of it's skyline, it has the most potential. Obviously their infastructure must be rebuilt.

Even though many other West African cities are doing better than Cote d'Ivoire, such as Accra, Abuja and Lagos, they do not have a defined skyline because many tall buildings are scattered randomly all over the place. Abidjan has a single defined CBD, like many Western cities, but most African cities doing better than Abidjan don't even have a skyline.

Matthias Offodile

April 10th, 2009, 09:44 PM

French R&Bn Singer M. Pokora will give a concert in 18 April 2009, too!...He is very famous!

Matt Pokora en concert au Palais de la Culture d'Abidjan

http://medias.ados.fr/people/2/1/218/M-Pokora/photos/8659-matt-pokora.jpg

here two music clips

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M. Pokora, de son vrai nom Matthieu Tota, la star du RnB français sera sur les bords de la lagune Ébrié pour un concert live exceptionnel. La salle Anoumabo du Palais de la Culture de Treichville sera la scène de cet évènement prévu pour le 17 Avril prochain. M.Pokora est l’auteur de trois albums à succès depuis le début de sa carrière solo en 2004 : « M.Pokora » certifié disque d"or, « Player » sorti en 2006 certifié disque de platine et le dernier en date « MP3 » sorti en 2008 sur lequel il a bossé avec Timbaland. Actuellement, il prépare un nouvel et quatrième album.

Axelferis

April 11th, 2009, 02:50 PM

LOL Offodile!!! M.Pokora is only famous in france without disrespect him :lol:

Matthias Offodile

April 11th, 2009, 03:07 PM

I was refering to France, Axelferis!

most of the singers are only famous in France and the rest of francophone world...never heared of beyond those linguitic confines...only exception was Edith Piaf and France Gall!

angcammoc

April 12th, 2009, 08:24 PM

all these french musicians are terrible singers..their music sucks

Matthias Offodile

April 12th, 2009, 08:28 PM

angcammoc

April 12th, 2009, 08:31 PM

anagmonoc, you needn´t listen to them! !All this French haters suck ...don´t visit this thread if you hate French-speaking countries..and I don´t go and peep into countries that I don´t like on SSC, as simple as that!

i was referring to french artists from france..i can fall asleep while listening to their music...love the pics of abidjan:cheers:

Matthias Offodile

April 12th, 2009, 08:34 PM

angcammoc

April 12th, 2009, 08:37 PM

Yes, I know that you hate France and French people and numerous francophone countries......I adore French music..thank god tastes differ, would be awful if we all listened to the same music like American trash where one song is exactly like the previous one, where would the diversity be?

I'm sory but I don't hate french people i just do not care that much about them....there is a difference....I listen to kizomba and tarraxinha most of the time....I care less about american music

i also love house music

Matthias Offodile

April 12th, 2009, 08:49 PM

ok, then we have different tastes...I like France a lot, (although there are things which I don´t like with every country) but I do like kizomba music , too!!

As for American music, well there are really good songs...but I hate it when they are forcing their music and culture upon the rest of the world...so that everybody should lick their ass or die!

chrisangel

August 12th, 2009, 08:54 PM

I don't know but abijan really looks dirty and filthy and very runned-down .
It looked better than this in 70s and 80's. Its sad to see it deteriorate . the mayor is not doing his job

Jeph

November 30th, 2009, 05:21 PM

Bonjour,
je reviens juste d'un séjour professionnel à Abidjan. Je connais cette ville depuis 15 ans. Elle n'a jamais été aussi sale et dégradée. Les photos présentées ici me paraissent trompeuses.
Les ordures sont partout, l'assainissement et l'écoulement même des eaux usées est bouché. Il flotte partout une odeur nauséabonde, masquée seulement par celles des gaz d'échappement terribles des woro-woro.
Les façades d'immeubles sont incroyablement laides, par absence d'entretien. Seules les publicités d'opérateurs de téléphonie mobile cachent cette misère.
Et pourtant, il y a de l'argent pour construire nombre de villas de luxe, d'immeubles de bureaux, ....
On est très loin de la ville d'il y a 15 ans.

Matthias Offodile

November 30th, 2009, 05:36 PM

Jeph, tu es Francais?

Jeph

November 30th, 2009, 05:59 PM

Jeph, tu es Francais?

oui. Et j'ai eu la chance d'aller en CI de nombreuses fois depuis 1994. Ce qui ne me fait pas dire que je connais parfaitement le pays !

Matthias Offodile

November 30th, 2009, 08:02 PM

Merci pour ta réponse, Jeph.:)

Malheureusement, la belle Côte d´ivoire a perdu son lustre...c´est un peu comme une rose fânée...la Côte d´ivoire pendant les années 70/80 était un "merveil" en pleine Afrique. En 1994 (ta permière visite), Abidjan a déjà passé son zenith (plus de pauvreté, routes défoncées, institutions en panne etc.) .... si l´on compare la ville au temps du miracle ivoirien.

J´espère que l´avenir va s´éclaircir pour ce beau pays et le peuple chaleureux.

Matthias Offodile

December 7th, 2009, 11:29 AM

it pains me to see what the city has turned into, ufookoro..especially if you knew what the city once stood for!

Popa1980, Abidjan has lost more than its shine, corruption and mismanagement has become the order of the day. Abidjan has already lost its crown and given it to cities like Dakar, Accra and Lagos...especially with the upcoming oil boom Accra will finally delete Abidjan from an investor´s map.

Axelferis

February 7th, 2010, 11:45 PM

this city needs a SERIOUS architectural update!! :ohno:

Luanda is surpassing it! it's very stange cause Abidjan was at the leading edge of african cities! that's what happened when incompetence becomes n°1 in a country :lol:

But seriously it's sad :(

ufookoro

February 8th, 2010, 11:02 AM

This is typical of African Leaders. Personal interest seems to supersede the interests of the country. The war ended years ago, I have not seen any new projects go beyond project drawings and proposals. What is happening. The whole City of Abidjan is plagued with totally run down buildings. There is nothing new. All new FDI investments to the region have basically been shared by the other countries. Look at Rwanda, a country that experienced something unlike anything else, has been galvanised in to the new renaissance. Ivory Coast need to smell the Coffee. Did I say Coffee? They produce the Dam Stuff, I rest my case. :bash::bash::bash:

Matthias Offodile

February 8th, 2010, 03:52 PM

this city needs a SERIOUS architectural update!!

Luanda is surpassing it! it's very stange cause Abidjan was at the leading edge of african cities! that's what happened when incompetence becomes n°1 in a country

But seriously it's sad

TIA...it has happened over and over again ...and I wouldn´t be surprised to see future repetitions of this!

Abidjan, once called "la Perle de la Lagune" or the "Paris of Africa", known for its sophistication and good standard of living...has landed brutally in "African reality".

Poverty rates less than 3 % (!!) in 1985 for Abidjan has sky-rocketted to more than 40% nowadays.

This country had everything to succeed....and once again failed.

Lately, I have read that power cuts (something non- existent in past time) have become the order of the day - even in Abidjan....those stupid decision-making people truly masterfully destroyed Felix Houphoet´s proud country....and I don´t see it returning to past glories any time soon.

BUTEMBO21

February 8th, 2010, 04:22 PM

Abidjan is looking sad. very sad.

Axelferis

February 9th, 2010, 11:38 PM

if they go for a project like 'Le Plateau 2" it would be good to reinvest and open doors for others projects!!

Ahh!! Africa.... eternal story... :(

popa1980

February 13th, 2010, 09:03 PM

Sad. Nkrumah got the last laugh.....

Axelferis

February 13th, 2010, 10:54 PM

Sad. Nkrumah got the last laugh.....

What?? he didn't like ivory coast?

aceone

March 10th, 2010, 08:34 PM

Alot of potential when peace is secured.

Bastors

April 19th, 2010, 08:29 PM

Cette ville est très grande très bien construite mais mal entretenu. Mais bah, il a beaucoup de potentiel et en plus c'est charmante.

YorkTown

April 19th, 2010, 08:46 PM

Pour quoi un grand pays comme la cote d'ivoire n'a pas encore sa section sur le SSC?

Bastors

April 23rd, 2010, 10:29 PM

Pour quoi un grand pays comme la cote d'ivoire n'a pas encore sa section sur le SSC?

je me demande pourquoi il n'y a pas de forum francophone mais il y'a na pour les Lusophones :nuts:

Matthias Offodile

April 23rd, 2010, 11:29 PM

On ne peut pas comparer les pays modernes lusophones avec les pays francophones au sud de la Sahara! L´Angola est comme une autre Afrique du Sud/Brésil en devenir. un forum sans l´Angola.... Impossible. Il y a trop de choses qui bougent là-bas contrairement à la belle Côte d´ivoire, malheureusement.

Jeph

April 25th, 2010, 02:16 PM

Abidjan should be a green economy hub!

Abidjan et la Côte d'Ivoire ont un potentiel fabuleux, et pourraient être un hub sur énormément de plans.
Les Ivoiriens n'aspirent qu'à cela. En plus, ils ont un très bon niveau de formation, et sont entreprenants.
Malheureusement, la gouvernance pèche. La classe politique en porte l'énorme responsabilité.

Tatoo

September 26th, 2010, 12:03 AM

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Tatoo

September 26th, 2010, 12:25 AM

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Simfan34

September 29th, 2010, 09:33 PM

popa1980

September 30th, 2010, 04:16 PM

Yeah, anywhere else in the world that would be luxury apartments and restaurants on the beach. Accra is even worse.

Tatoo

September 30th, 2010, 04:26 PM

Yeah, anywhere else in the world that would be luxury apartments and restaurants on the beach. Accra is even worse.

Accra looks better than Abidjan to me. But if you are comparing Accra to Bamako, then I will Bamako looks better.

ciceroji

October 1st, 2010, 12:26 AM

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This one is painful, you have a thin strip of slums between the nice highway and the beach, you just want to pick them up and replace them with a nice beach.

Abidjan look first world back then.. Some pics still do.

Guys don't kid yourself. That is in a bad area of Abidjan. It never looked good. I have lived in Abidjan and those that are trying to compare it to Accra really don't know what they are talking about. In Abidjan they build the roads before the houses on all middle income and higher areas. I mean ALL such place. When the develop an area it is to first class standard, there will be irrigation, underground power, electricity, clean drinkable tap water, even before a single house is built. Just look at the two cities with google maps satellite and zoom in, and you will get what I am talking about. Accra still has five more years to go to catch up. That how far ahead Abidjan is and was.

ciceroji

October 1st, 2010, 01:22 AM

It looks like I might have to partially eat my words. It seems there are some areas in Abidjan now where the declined to do the roads first. They are a couple of housing development which have street light but no roads yet so, we can assume if you put the street light you will put the road. Anyway here they are. Photos are from 2009 onwards.

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Simfan34

October 1st, 2010, 05:45 AM

Accra looks better than Abidjan to me. But if you are comparing Accra to Bamako, then I will Bamako looks better.

Hah! I wish....

Matthias Offodile

October 1st, 2010, 09:09 PM

Abidrovia

October 2nd, 2010, 12:16 AM

BUTEMBO21

October 2nd, 2010, 12:25 AM

Abidrovia,

Where have you been?

BUTEMBO21

October 2nd, 2010, 12:30 AM

Tatoo

October 2nd, 2010, 03:09 AM

Guys don't kid yourself. That is in a bad area of Abidjan. It never looked good. I have lived in Abidjan and those that are trying to compare it to Accra really don't know what they are talking about. In Abidjan they build the roads before the houses on all middle income and higher areas. I mean ALL such place. When the develop an area it is to first class standard, there will be irrigation, underground power, electricity, clean drinkable tap water, even before a single house is built. Just look at the two cities with google maps satellite and zoom in, and you will get what I am talking about. Accra still has five more years to go to catch up. That how far ahead Abidjan is and was.

Accra is cleaner, more organized and more beautiful compared to Abidjan.
Abidjan has high skyscrapers that look old, rundown, and dirty roads.The city also has a lot of dirt loads on the streets that the city trash collectors never pick up. The pictures I posted, are the recent pictures of Abidjan dating June 2010. Accra is and has already defeated Abidjan.

ciceroji

October 2nd, 2010, 11:04 AM

Those new houses. Are they in Cocody?

Are those apart of a lower class housing program or are they aimed at middle and upper class buyers?

just curious

I can't tell what all the areas are, they seem like brand new areas, or areas I never visited much which would be the lower class neighborhoods, such as Yopougon. But the second set of new houses is in Grand Bassam, quite far from the city center. None of the pictures show Cocody.

popa1980

October 2nd, 2010, 11:13 AM

Its B.S and Sad that DRC only has 37 km of Ocean coast, when its one of the largest countries in world.

In DRC That slam between the highway and the beach would be filled with Mansion like on this Congolese lake (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=64028663&postcount=1).

Yeah, its cos its an articifical colonial invention. DRC is one of the most populous land locked nation on earth- I can only think of Ethiopia which has more. Maybe one or two of the Central Asian states.

But that means that once DRC starts developing that 37k of Ocean is going to be PRIME property because they will have to fit beach developments and ports on that tiny part. Im guessing every centimetre will become developed.

Simfan34

October 2nd, 2010, 07:41 PM

Yeah, its cos its an articifical colonial invention. DRC is one of the most populous land locked nation on earth- I can only think of Ethiopia which has more. Maybe one or two of the Central Asian states.

But that means that once DRC starts developing that 37k of Ocean is going to be PRIME property because they will have to fit beach developments and ports on that tiny part. Im guessing every centimetre will become developed.

DRC is NOT landlocked. 37km of seacoast is still seacoast. Ethiopia is the world's most populous landlocked nation, and we'd kill for 37 km (however the port Ethiopians agitate for is 50 km from the border of Eritrea and Djibouti.

Naijaborn

October 3rd, 2010, 09:19 AM

Wow! Abidjan was really on it's way to being a first world city, absolutely superb!
If it had continued on that track i'm sure it would be either best. second. or third best city on the continent by now.
But then.........................:( We all know what happened....so sooo sad
I remember back then in primary school, there were some five good pages about How beautiful and impressive Abidjan was, then in our Macmillan social studies textbooks , even our own Lagos, didn't gain so much attention in our little kid hearts, back then.....it was a real jewel.

popa1980

October 3rd, 2010, 12:48 PM

Matthias Offodile

October 5th, 2010, 12:30 PM

Yeah, I first read of Abidjan when I was 15 years, that was back in '95 so it was still a decent place though already in decline. I really wanted to go there.

1995?...they heydays were already over...bear in mind that although the economy grew by 7% on average between 1994-1998...poverty grew, too....this stands in stark contrast to the period between 1960s-early/mid 1980s.

without the proper leadership/governance (I don´t see it as the government and the opposition are rotten to the core)...Abidjan (and Côte d´ivoire as a whole) is only set to deteriorate, unfortunately.

BUTEMBO21

October 5th, 2010, 02:08 PM

But that means that once DRC starts developing that 37k of Ocean is going to be PRIME property because they will have to fit beach developments and ports on that tiny part. Im guessing every centimetre will become developed.

Thats if the deep see port planned gets built (as planned to start construction early next year.).

Lots of Congolese businessmen are waiting for it construction . Lots of Congolese in diaspora also, are already on standby to buy land on that spot.
Facts that there is already Oil being pumped there(since the 1970s at 25,000 berrils/day and now more exploitation underway to increase production), Cement factory nearby , Sugar factory nearby, INGA 1, 2 nearby.
I hope i'm able to get myself a plot of land there in the future. That will be a big investment.

But , yea, having an Ocean coast is very beneficial. This Abidjan, Accra, Lagos, Dakar, Luanda etc.. have great spots. Easy , very easy and great for business because one doesn't need to drive inland, everything is on the coast.

èđđeůx

October 6th, 2010, 03:27 AM

^^ DRC could always build artificial islands on this stretch of 37km to maximize its use. I'm sure that will more than likely be the outcome of it in the future.

But hey the upside to having just 37km of shore is that you have some of the most mineral rich and diverse land in Africa. I'd whether be a huge, resource-filled DRC than a tiny Eritrea.

Simfan34

October 6th, 2010, 09:24 PM

jeff91

February 8th, 2011, 01:13 AM

but u wamted the whole of Ivory coast as Ghana Territory, just a while ago :D

nah that was joke lool, its all love, i just wish they were stable it would be soo good for west africa, the capital is just stunning wooow

Matthias Offodile

February 12th, 2011, 07:23 PM

nah that was joke lool, its all love, i just wish they were stable it would be soo good for west africa, the capital is just stunning wooow

it was stunning 20 years ago! it looks terribly run-down and Third World nowadays.

Send your hugs and kisses to Bedié , the drunkard, who run the country from 1993-1999...and Laurent Ggabo who completely killed it off!

jeff91

February 17th, 2011, 10:57 PM

it was stunning 20 years ago! it looks terribly run-down and Third World nowadays.

Send your hugs and kisses to Bedié , the drunkard, who run the country from 1993-1999...and Laurent Ggabo who completely killed it off!

to be real it still looks better than Accra, accra needs some years to catch up,

Carver02

April 1st, 2011, 03:44 AM

Hadrami

April 1st, 2011, 07:25 AM

Carver02

April 1st, 2011, 06:32 PM

8 roads is every road ? :lol:

It's all the largest ones.

Mutu yachuma

April 1st, 2011, 08:15 PM

Hadrami

April 1st, 2011, 08:33 PM

It's all the largest ones.

Ok. I'm a take a look in Google Earth.

Hadrami

April 1st, 2011, 08:35 PM

These are Boulevards (Main roads of the city). Damn. thats too much.:ohno::ohno::ohno::bash::bash:

What happened to Ivorianization here? I don't think it ever happened.:ohno:

"Ivoirité" only against the defenseless immigrants from neighbouring countries. :ohno:
I'm happy the xenophobic "ivoirité concept"will soon be over.

Sorry to every one for being off topic.

Mutu yachuma

April 1st, 2011, 09:18 PM

"Ivoirité" only against the defenseless immigrants from neighbouring countries. :ohno:
I'm happy the xenophobic "ivoirité concept"will soon be over.

All i'm saying these French names aren't supposed to exist anymore. Ivorian names should .

Hadrami

April 1st, 2011, 09:47 PM

All i'm saying these French names aren't supposed to exist anymore. Ivorian names should .

I agree Butembo.

ciceroji

April 4th, 2011, 02:36 PM

Hadrami

April 4th, 2011, 08:28 PM

Before beating up Ivory Coast too much we should note that 30% of the population is foreign. Very few countries are at such a level. Very few of us would accept this in our own country. I am not saying attacking them is good. I am just saying we should realize what is going on.

Without these foreigners and their descendants the country wouldnever have been as prosperous as it used to be.
You should realize what is going on.

Matthias Offodile

April 4th, 2011, 09:23 PM

Practically every road in this city is named after a French person or a French place - look at GoogleEarth:

Blvd de Gaulle
Blvd Mitterrand
Blvd de France
Blvd Valery Giscard d'Estaing
Blvd Andre Latrille (a colonial administrator)
Ave Joseph Blohorn
Blvd Marseille
Marchand Ave

The only black persons I noticed were Jesse Owens and Toussaint Louverture, though I'm sure there are others.

:ohno::ohno:

Funny that you picked only those and left out the rest who have African names.:lol:

Anyway, these are post-colonial names and those streets were built in the post-colonial era. They stand for a certain époque...and truly name change is the last thing IC has to bother now when the official unemployment rate runs at 40%, vast segments of the society are woefuly impoverished, generations of youth without a perspective....and you pick out six or seven boulevards which bear French names.

you even get names of African presidenst cities or countries in France.

There are several roads and streets in Nigeria who bear the name of British people...Nigerians give a toss for that...as if a name change could modernize a country.

Carver02, I do know that you hate white people to the core - knowing that you come from a country yourself USA where RACE (IDENTIFICATION) IS JUST EVERYTHING...and I wouldn´t be surprised to see you rejoice if mulattos were sent into gas chambers - due to theiR "white & and in your eyes evil and invested blood" like Hitler has done with the Jews.

Your dream is certainly an Africa were Africa should ONLY trade among 100% non-infested black Africans.

You would love to see the last white men leaving Africa....CAPE TOWN MUST BE AN EYE-SORE FOR YOU..just say it bluntly and don´t use diplomatic tongue.:)

Matthias Offodile

April 4th, 2011, 09:26 PM

Without these foreigners and their descendants the country wouldnever have been as prosperous as it used to be.
You should realize what is going on.

+1

Malians, Burkinabés, Senegalese, Nigerians, Ghanaians, French, Lebanese, Quebecois from french-speaking Canada, Vietnamese other Europeans they all made up what IC stood for in the past..ITS RACIAL AND CULTURAL TOLERANCE..now it will go down what we know from liberia and Sierra Leone, most likely.

Sokotocaliphate

April 4th, 2011, 09:49 PM

...and I wouldn´t be surprised to see you rejoice if mulattos were sent into gas chambers - due to theiR "white & and in your eyes evil and invested blood" like Hitler has done with the Jews.

Your dream is certainly an Africa were Africa should ONLY trade among 100% non-infested black Africans.

You would love to see the last white men leaving Africa...just say it bluntly and don´t use diplomatic tongue.:)

such hyperbole :laugh:

Arinze

April 4th, 2011, 10:02 PM

Matt converses in Hyperbole :lol:

Matthias Offodile

April 4th, 2011, 10:15 PM

nah that was joke lool, its all love, i just wish they were stable it would be soo good for west africa, the capital is just stunning wooow

Yes, 25 years ago...nowadays it is just one run down big slum.

Carver02

April 5th, 2011, 02:56 AM

Funny that you picked only those and left out the rest who have African names.:lol:

Anyway, these are post-colonial names and those streets were built in the post-colonial era. They stand for a certain époque...and truly name change is the last thing IC has to bother now when the official unemployment rate runs at 40%, vast segments of the society are woefuly impoverished, generations of youth without a perspective....and you pick out six or seven boulevards which bear French names.

you even get names of African presidenst cities or countries in France.

There are several roads and streets in Nigeria who bear the name of British people...Nigerians give a toss for that...as if a name change could modernize a country.

Carver02, I do know that you hate white people to the core - knowing that you come from a country yourself USA where RACE (IDENTIFICATION) IS JUST EVERYTHING...and I wouldn´t be surprised to see you rejoice if mulattos were sent into gas chambers - due to theiR "white & and in your eyes evil and invested blood" like Hitler has done with the Jews.

Your dream is certainly an Africa were Africa should ONLY trade among 100% non-infested black Africans.

You would love to see the last white men leaving Africa....CAPE TOWN MUST BE AN EYE-SORE FOR YOU..just say it bluntly and don´t use diplomatic tongue.:)

I do not hate white people or mulattos.

ciceroji

April 5th, 2011, 09:27 AM

Without these foreigners and their descendants the country wouldnever have been as prosperous as it used to be.
You should realize what is going on.

I agree. However, the same argument goes for the Mexicans in the United States. However, a large chunk of the U.S. population wants to kick them out. So, what I am saying is Ivory Coast is dealing with a situation few countries do, and know how to deal with. I believe we should get rid of all borders, but most people would wince at this. While these same people call Ivory Coast Xenophobic, do you see the hypocrisy.

èđđeůx

April 7th, 2011, 01:51 AM

I do not hate white people or mulattos.

He always overrreacts w/ the same tiring rhetoric. Leave it be.

Julio Villamizar

April 8th, 2011, 09:52 PM

This city seems to be one of the most developed in the area. We in south america never imagine how Africa is.
I liked the city.

Matthias Offodile

April 8th, 2011, 10:15 PM

I do not hate white people or mulattos.

Sure, and I am the son of the last Shah of Persia.

Matthias Offodile

April 8th, 2011, 10:16 PM

This city seems to be one of the most developed in the area. We in south america never imagine how Africa is.
I liked the city.

no longer is...it was the most developped in the sub-region.

bear in mind that IC was the third largest economy in Africa South of Sahara before those fuckers decided to destroy it....with their blood(y) concepts.

jeff91

April 8th, 2011, 10:48 PM

the city still looks better than most cities in Africa

Matthias Offodile

April 8th, 2011, 10:56 PM

the city still looks better than most cities in Africa

Yes, it looks better than Bangui, Bissau, Conakry, Freetwon, Monrovia etc.....but poverty has grown in leaps and bounds and Abidjan was not built to harbour close to 5 million people.

The city is a mere shadow of its former self...even the city´s inner circles look shabby and left to decay....many of the lifts in the high-rises ceased to function.

jeff91

July 27th, 2011, 01:03 AM

i dont like the guy who in charge of ivory coast but i hope they get back on their feet

jeff91

July 27th, 2011, 02:52 AM

^^ I think This country can still do ''wonders''.......Little wonder why France is still soo Interested.

i see the current president as a puppet but i guess the people will benefit

Naijaborn

July 27th, 2011, 02:54 AM

i see the current president as a puppet but i guess the people will benefit
I am not a ''fan'' of Outarra too......LOL

I just want the Ivory coast to get back on its feet, we need some Fierce competition in West Africa, Look what the EAC is doing....I mean, why cant WA Do the same?

jeff91

July 27th, 2011, 03:02 AM

I am not a ''fan'' of Outarra too......LOL

I just want the Ivory coast to get back on its feet, we need some Fierce competition in West Africa, Look what the EAC is doing....I mean, why cant WA Do the same?

yeah we really need that if they get back on their feet there is going to be some major competition going on nigeria, ghana and ivory coast the other west African nations are slack big time really disappointing

Yobouetkev

July 28th, 2011, 12:08 PM

I would like to show some amazing pics of Abidjan city economical capital of Cote d'Ivoire!

jeff91

July 28th, 2011, 12:28 PM

I would like to show some amazing pics of Abidjan city economical capital of Cote d'Ivoire!

noting is stooping you bro

Yobouetkev

July 28th, 2011, 12:32 PM

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/yobouetkev/

Mintali

August 18th, 2011, 06:14 PM

Yes, it looks better than Bangui, Bissau, Conakry, Freetwon, Monrovia etc.....but poverty has grown in leaps and bounds and Abidjan was not built to harbour close to 5 million people.

The city is a mere shadow of its former self...even the city´s inner circles look shabby and left to decay....many of the lifts in the high-rises ceased to function.
You cant be serious Mathias. A little instability and you think this magneficient city is dilapidated enough to be compared with the likes of Bangui and Bissau. Come on; show this pictures to a European, American or Asian to guess where they were taken and believe me none will guess anywhere in Africa. Mathias you are from Nigeria and to be honest, I feel Abidjan still beats all Nigerian cities in terms of infrustructure.

HerachioBlo

August 18th, 2011, 06:20 PM

Not Abuja

Makelele

August 19th, 2011, 02:14 AM

Quite Frankly Nigeria as a country has the best infrastructure in the whole of SSA. Lagos, Port harcourt, Abuja, Victoria have superb road networks. You got to visit Nigeria before you compare Abidjan with Nigeria's infrastructure. Abidjan is a great city too but not as great as the first 3 cities in Nigeria.

Sokotocaliphate

August 19th, 2011, 02:19 AM

Arinze

August 19th, 2011, 02:26 AM

I like him/her they are like Suns 25 from Gabon, very nice to Nigeria :yes; Nigeria is not perfect but its not Afghanistan.

Naijaborn

August 19th, 2011, 04:46 AM

Mintali

August 19th, 2011, 09:21 AM

lool, to be Frank, Abidjan once had the best infrastructure in SSA outside South Africa but not anymore, this is 2011.
Then when we talk about Total infrastructuure, and no just infra within a single city, Nigeria is in a different league of its own in Western Africa.
True..........just like you can say China has better infrastructure than , say Israel. remember Nigeria alone has more people than the rest of West Africa combined so its fair that it has More roads. but can u tell me for instance, that someone living in Lagos has access to better infrastructure than a Ghanian in Accra? Come on guys..........and comreparing Abuja to Abidjan - look.......Abuja has less than 1 mil people(the 2006 census put Abuja at776298 people) While Abidjan has 5 Mil people. furthermore I still hold that Abidjan is better than all Nigerian cities. If you were to talk about total infrastructure, then divide Nigeria's population of almost 160 Mil into 18 mill pieces( population of cote de ivoire is 18M) then divide the Nigerian infrustructure amongst the total nigerian pieces and compare it with the total Ivorian infrastructure. Then you will know what having good infrustructure is all about.

Mintali

August 19th, 2011, 09:36 AM

Accra looks better than Abidjan to me. But if you are comparing Accra to Bamako, then I will Bamako looks better.
Let me hope you r joking my friend

Naijaborn

August 19th, 2011, 09:59 AM

True..........just like you can say China has better infrastructure than , say Israel. remember Nigeria alone has more people than the rest of West Africa combined so its fair that it has More roads. but can u tell me for instance, that someone living in Lagos has access to better infrastructure than a Ghanian in Accra? Come on guys..........and comreparing Abuja to Abidjan - look.......Abuja has less than 1 mil people(the 2006 census put Abuja at776298 people) While Abidjan has 5 Mil people. furthermore I still hold that Abidjan is better than all Nigerian cities. If you were to talk about total infrastructure, then divide Nigeria's population of almost 160 Mil into 18 mill pieces( population of cote de ivoire is 18M) then divide the Nigerian infrustructure amongst the total nigerian pieces and compare it with the total Ivorian infrastructure. Then you will know what having good infrustructure is all about.

LOL!!
well, Nigeria doesent have the most extensive infrastructure in West Africa, and one of the most extensive on the continent because it wants to build them, for ghosts, But because people actually need them.

Now, comoaring Lagos to Accra. Accra and Abidjan are capital cities, Lagos isnt.And Lagos still has more people than Accra and Abidjan put together and multiplied by 2. Lagos isnt a small city at all.

And no, I wont say china has better infrastructure than Israel, Bigger isnt equual to better. Outside of Abidjan, show somewhere else ''decent'' enough in the whole of Ivory coast.

Anyways, that is not my point....... when will the Ivory coast get back fully on its feet again??
we neeed more countries to do well in West Africa. :)

Hadrami

August 19th, 2011, 10:04 AM

Accra and Abidjan are capital cities.

^^
Abidjan is NOT the capital of CIV. :lol:

Naijaborn

August 19th, 2011, 10:06 AM

oh, sorry, for a moment, i forgot that :lol:
But everything that happpens in Ivory coast centers in Abidjan, right?

Hadrami

August 19th, 2011, 10:18 AM

oh, sorry, for a moment, i forgot that :lol:
But everything that happpens in Ivory coast centers in Abidjan, right?

Yeah, Abidjan is CIV’s Lagos.

But there's San Pedro, Gagnoa and Yamoussoukro(capital).
They’ll get back on their feet. It use to be such a nice country, I hope more stable ecowas members will help. :)

Makelele

August 19th, 2011, 09:50 PM

Naijaborn

August 19th, 2011, 10:23 PM

^^ lol, where r u from??

HerachioBlo

August 20th, 2011, 01:45 AM

True..........just like you can say China has better infrastructure than , say Israel. remember Nigeria alone has more people than the rest of West Africa combined so its fair that it has More roads. but can u tell me for instance, that someone living in Lagos has access to better infrastructure than a Ghanian in Accra? Come on guys..........and comreparing Abuja to Abidjan - look.......Abuja has less than 1 mil people(the 2006 census put Abuja at776298 people) While Abidjan has 5 Mil people. furthermore I still hold that Abidjan is better than all Nigerian cities. If you were to talk about total infrastructure, then divide Nigeria's population of almost 160 Mil into 18 mill pieces( population of cote de ivoire is 18M) then divide the Nigerian infrustructure amongst the total nigerian pieces and compare it with the total Ivorian infrastructure. Then you will know what having good infrustructure is all about.

my friend commot with your division, show me what abidjian has that Lagos doesn't have in volume?

and 1 million or not Abuja is still first world, the only things on the continent on par are some south african cities (which are as good as or better) and some north african cities.

you can't say 'any nigerian city' then disqualify abuja for being a growing city.

but taking Abuja out of the picture Lagos is still superior to Abidjan in every way shape and form. IF you look at everything a city is to have there's no comparison.

HerachioBlo

August 20th, 2011, 01:52 AM

i would say Accra < Abidjan though.

Nigeria actually has superior infrustructure compared to everywhere on the continent except southern african states and egypt. almost every state out of 36 has a city in it that can be one of the best if placed in the middle of ghana or CIV. It's just the media has an unusually specific fixation with trying to make nigeria look like afganistan and nigerian over complaining (school fees for example when the average public school fee is 70 dollars annually and every bread sales woman in the country can afford it) doesnt make it any better.

Makelele

August 20th, 2011, 03:53 AM

^^ lol, where r u from??
Nigeria is doing great things in Africa look at the wonders of Ecko Atlantic . Looking dwn upon each other will not help us any. Nigeria knows how to to do it leading the way lets learn from them and learn to accept reality and give credit where it is due. Why is it that in Africa we can never seem to get along and compliment each other even when it is obvious. Nigeria has the biggest in Africa, so is their infrastructure.:banana:

Makelele

August 20th, 2011, 03:58 AM

^^ lol, where r u from??

^^Kenya:cheers:

Mintali

August 29th, 2011, 02:11 PM

The new US embacy. It was inaugurated in 2004. It's the biggest and the most sophisticated US embacy in Africa and probably in the world. It's slated to be the eyes and ears of the US on the West Coast of Africa, and probably all over the continent.
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8341/wwwjfini1zi.jpg

I think the American embassy in Nairobi is bigger than this.......

Mintali

August 29th, 2011, 02:20 PM

Some Photos of the Nairobi embassy
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6585/usembassy.png

Mintali

August 29th, 2011, 02:24 PM

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/710/us2ji.jpg

Naijaborn

August 29th, 2011, 02:35 PM

^^ Lmao, That isnt bigger.

Mintali

August 29th, 2011, 03:08 PM

^^ Lmao, That isnt bigger.

I cldnt get a bigger front photo of the buildng due to the photography restrictions associated wth the region(it is locatd nia th UNEP hq n the region has many restrictins). the photos above are actually side views. bt honestly its bigger. al try n find u sme photos.

Mintali

August 29th, 2011, 03:35 PM

LOL!!
well, Nigeria doesent have the most extensive infrastructure in West Africa, and one of the most extensive on the continent because it wants to build them, for ghosts, But because people actually need them.

Now, comoaring Lagos to Accra. Accra and Abidjan are capital cities, Lagos isnt.And Lagos still has more people than Accra and Abidjan put together and multiplied by 2. Lagos isnt a small city at all.

And no, I wont say china has better infrastructure than Israel, Bigger isnt equual to better. Outside of Abidjan, show somewhere else ''decent'' enough in the whole of Ivory coast.

Anyways, that is not my point....... when will the Ivory coast get back fully on its feet again??
we neeed more countries to do well in West Africa. :)

My brother am happy u seem 2 agree with my bigger is nt beta thng bt again u contradict yuaself. saying only abidjan in ivory coast has such infrastructure-now with 5mil pple, abidjan has almst 30% Of IC. that is more than the percntage of nigerians lvng in lagos, abuja, calabar and port harcourt combined!

Mintali

August 29th, 2011, 03:52 PM

my friend commot with your division, show me what abidjian has that Lagos doesn't have in volume?

and 1 million or not Abuja is still first world, the only things on the continent on par are some south african cities (which are as good as or better) and some north african cities.

you can't say 'any nigerian city' then disqualify abuja for being a growing city.

but taking Abuja out of the picture Lagos is still superior to Abidjan in every way shape and form. IF you look at everything a city is to have there's no comparison.

Av never been to Abuja but like many other cities in the world, i knw much about the city. frankly from what i see, abuja doesnt come to me as anything near a first world city and its archtecture is just so boring-no creativity. the roads are marvellous though. from what nigerians say, anyone who has no idea of what abuja is might expect smthng of New york calibre-anyway from the way nigerians talk, the whole lot cant just lie-for me, i take what they say and blend it with what i knw, i bring forth a city with good infrustructure, maybe beta than all ssa minus sa bt nt by the huge margin u guys tend 2 mek us blv. the one thng that i hate about abuja is tht its luks sooo boring.

Mintali

August 30th, 2011, 09:42 AM

More views of the nairobi one
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3028/21170472.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/194/usembassynairobiwhd.gif

Naijaborn

August 30th, 2011, 11:08 AM

^^ still small {Compared to the Abidjan one of course}
Dude the American embassy in Abidjan is Huge, it isnt a hidden fact.

Mintali

August 30th, 2011, 01:28 PM

^^ still small {Compared to the Abidjan one of course}
Dude the American embassy in Abidjan is Huge, it isnt a hidden fact.

If it suits you. but then, I would advice you to check up the sizes using google maps and measure them then you will realize what am talking about. btw, the nairobi one is composed of two structures.(the nairobi one has 2 large structures mearing 102m and 70m while the abidjan one has one large structure of length 90m.)

Hadrami

August 31st, 2011, 08:18 PM

Who gives a damn if its bigger or smaller guys. :nuts:

Hadrami

August 31st, 2011, 08:18 PM

with 5mil pple, abidjan has almst 30% Of IC.
that is more than the percntage of nigerians lvng in lagos, abuja, calabar and port harcourt combined!

That is because of the war, everybody fled to Abidjan !!

Naijaborn

August 31st, 2011, 08:26 PM

^^ Including the Northerners and Migrants??

Hadrami

August 31st, 2011, 09:42 PM

^^ Including the Northerners and Migrants??

I have family there. They left Senegal at least 30 years ago. When the ivoirian dream was alive and kicking. They are succesfull businessmen now. They suffered a lot during Gbgabo’s 10 years in power.Thank God the civil war is over. :)

The foreigners in CIV feel very Ivorian since they come from neighbouring countries with exactly the same greater mandé culture as northern ivoirians. Many left but many stayed, after two or three generations the links with their country of origin were already too blurry.

At least 50% of Abidjan is of northern or greater mande origin.
Look at the top 10 football players
Top 10 CEO’s
Top 10 actors
Top 10 politicians
Top 10 whatever ...

At least 50% are sons of migrants from the greater mandé or northerners. And they (especially dioula/wangara ;) )control small business and transport business. They got too much money too loseso they didn’t leave. And the southerners Akan and Bété are not seen as very good businessmen in CIV, they better leave that to the Dioula, lebanese and french. Like my mother’s cousin they are not thinking of leaving Abidjan or other southern cities. They stayed, the money is too good. :lol: