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Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 02:34 AM I would never support Spanish. Many Spanish pidgin words in the Filipino language have appropriate Tagalog substitutes. These words should be eliminated as it is a complete colonial language and nothing created on Filipino turf. The addition of Spanish as a national language is just something else to add to the mess of: the national language + regional languages + English.
Hokkien is at least spoken by a big group of people, but Spanish? By an overwhelming majority, Filipinos can't speak Spanish fluently enough for this notion to even be considered.
"Filipino" itself is a Spanish word. :cheers:
Spanish was only removed as an official language in 1987. The years prior that it was required in schools and was an official language.
Now, please apply your "colonial" analysis to English. Do not forget the bloody Philippine-American war in which the US has buried as if it did not happen.
Other than that, most of Philippine law date back from the SPANISH civil code that we had since the independence.
Spanish is very relevant to the country's culture and history. The original national anthem was in Spanish. Our first laws (as a unified nation) was in Spanish. We have towns and last names in Spanish. El Fili and Noli were originally written in Spanish.
Not all Spanish loans have Tagalog equivalent. Time? Oras? Tiempo? beses/veces? Asukal(azucar)? Lapis (lapiz)? Benta (vender)? Boses(voces)?
Going further, you might as well erase any foreign loans in Tagalog like karma, araw, alak, susi, kuya, ate, suki -- words not created on "Filipino" turf. We might as well get rid of Adobo, Mechado, Pancit, Palabok, Caldereta -- food brought by foreigners and colonizer and merely indigenized.
Other than than, native Tagalog speakers make up 1/4 of the population. In other words, 3/4 have Tagalog as a non-native language.
Ady001 June 23rd, 2011, 03:51 AM ^^ I would agree for Spanish, not to be reinstated, but to be part at least of the fringes of our learning.
xxxriainxxx June 23rd, 2011, 04:26 AM I would never support Spanish. Many Spanish pidgin words in the Filipino language have appropriate Tagalog substitutes. These words should be eliminated as it is a complete colonial language and nothing created on Filipino turf. The addition of Spanish as a national language is just something else to add to the mess of: the national language + regional languages + English.
Hokkien is at least spoken by a big group of people, but Spanish? By an overwhelming majority, Filipinos can't speak Spanish fluently enough for this notion to even be considered.
Spanish is widely spoken around the world. I really do not want to pick a fight against you or anyone, but while you rail against Spanish, I just would like to point out that you used English, another 'colonial' language. In fact, the American public school system and the ensuing Anglicization of the Philippines at the beginning of the American occupation caused many Filipino languages/dialects pushed further into the background.
As for Hokkien or any Chinese language variety is spoken by more people (which are by majority Chinese), Spanish is more widespread. In fact, knowing Spanish can open up our markets and connections to basically the entire Central and South America (with few exceptions like Brazil of course). The United States has the most number of Spanish speaking population outside the Hispanic world.
Learning Spanish would be much easier as well because as it is, anyone correct me if I am wrong, there is at least 2000-5000 Spanish loan words in Tagalog, Ilonggo, Cebuano and many other Philippine languages/dialects.
To be pragmatic about it, it's no longer an issue of 'nationalism' for me. It's an issue whether we can be competitive globally and knowing a third, or fourth foreign language is very important. I am saying that we don't need to lose our own just because we acquire another.
I agree with Nabartek. The current 'Filipino' language we are using is an amalgamation of several languages ranging from Sanskrit, English, Spanish, Malay, Spanish and even Nahuatl (AFAIK).
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 04:29 AM Spanish is widely spoken around the world. I really do not want to pick a fight against you or anyone, but while you rail against Spanish, I just would like to point out that you used English, another 'colonial' language. In fact, the American public school system and the ensuing Anglicization of the Philippines at the beginning of the American occupation caused many Filipino languages/dialects pushed further into the background.
As for Hokkien or any Chinese language variety is spoken by more people (which are by majority Chinese), Spanish is more widespread. In fact, knowing Spanish can open up our markets and connections to basically the entire Central and South America (with few exceptions like Brazil of course). The United States has the most number of Spanish speaking population outside the Hispanic world.
Learning Spanish would be much easier as well because as it is, anyone correct me if I am wrong, there is at least 2000-5000 Spanish loan words in Tagalog, Ilonggo, Cebuano and many other Philippine languages/dialects.
To be pragmatic about it, it's no longer an issue of 'nationalism' for me. It's an issue whether we can be competitive globally and knowing a third, or fourth foreign language is very important. I am saying that we don't need to lose our own just because we acquire another.
I agree with Nabartek. The current 'Filipino' language we are using is an amalgamation of several languages ranging from Sanskrit, English, Spanish, Malay, Spanish and even Nahuatl (AFAIK).
Given the growing number of Hispanic population in the US (Yes, illegals included...most of them reluctant to learn English...hehe...You say No hablo espanol, still speak Spanish to you), learning Spanish can bring in more investment in the Philippines not only from the US but from Spanish speaking countries as well. Spanish is the most spoken language behind Chinese (Mandarin)
Yep, I read that Tagalog has Nahuatl words. Bangketa, Atsuete, Avocado... Palengke. Palenque is like a historical site in Mexico. Ah, interesting! :D How it came to mean "wet market" in Tagalog. :lol:
I might add, given Filipinos familiarity with the English structure and some Spanish words, it would be quite easier for us to learn Spanish
xxxriainxxx June 23rd, 2011, 04:37 AM Given the growing number of Hispanic population in the US (Yes, illegals included...most of them reluctant to learn English...hehe...You say No hablo espanol, still speak Spanish to you), learning Spanish can bring in more investment in the Philippines not only from the US but from Spanish speaking countries as well. Spanish is the most spoken language behind Chinese (Mandarin)
Yep, I read that Tagalog has Nahuatl words. Bangketa, Atsuete, Avocado... Palengke. Palenque is like a historical site in Mexico. Ah, interesting! :D How it came to mean "wet market" in Tagalog. :lol:
I might add, given Filipinos familiarity with the English structure and some Spanish words, it would be quite easier for us to learn Spanish
Yes. It's time to reclaim our place in Latino world. Learning Spanish also do not entail learning entirely new scripts as one would do for Chinese, Korean, etc. Spanish is also a non-tonal language.
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 04:41 AM Yes. It's time to reclaim our place in Latino world. Learning Spanish also do not entail learning entirely new scripts as one would do for Chinese, Korean, etc. Spanish is also a non-tonal language.
Agreed. Besides, Spanish is very phonetical. We just have to get used to the accent marks :lol:
Mercato June 23rd, 2011, 04:57 AM Bien dicho – well said.
Spanish is widely spoken around the world. I really do not want to pick a fight against you or anyone, but while you rail against Spanish, I just would like to point out that you used English, another 'colonial' language. In fact, the American public school system and the ensuing Anglicization of the Philippines at the beginning of the American occupation caused many Filipino languages/dialects pushed further into the background.
As for Hokkien or any Chinese language variety is spoken by more people (which are by majority Chinese), Spanish is more widespread. In fact, knowing Spanish can open up our markets and connections to basically the entire Central and South America (with few exceptions like Brazil of course). The United States has the most number of Spanish speaking population outside the Hispanic world.
Learning Spanish would be much easier as well because as it is, anyone correct me if I am wrong, there is at least 2000-5000 Spanish loan words in Tagalog, Ilonggo, Cebuano and many other Philippine languages/dialects.
To be pragmatic about it, it's no longer an issue of 'nationalism' for me. It's an issue whether we can be competitive globally and knowing a third, or fourth foreign language is very important. I am saying that we don't need to lose our own just because we acquire another.
I agree with Nabartek. The current 'Filipino' language we are using is an amalgamation of several languages ranging from Sanskrit, English, Spanish, Malay, Spanish and even Nahuatl (AFAIK).
"Filipino" itself is a Spanish word. :cheers:
Spanish was only removed as an official language in 1987. The years prior that it was required in schools and was an official language.
Now, please apply your "colonial" analysis to English. Do not forget the bloody Philippine-American war in which the US has buried as if it did not happen.
Other than that, most of Philippine law date back from the SPANISH civil code that we had since the independence.
Spanish is very relevant to the country's culture and history. The original national anthem was in Spanish. Our first laws (as a unified nation) was in Spanish. We have towns and last names in Spanish. El Fili and Noli were originally written in Spanish.
Not all Spanish loans have Tagalog equivalent. Time? Oras? Tiempo? beses/veces? Asukal(azucar)? Lapis (lapiz)? Benta (vender)? Boses(voces)?
Going further, you might as well erase any foreign loans in Tagalog like karma, araw, alak, susi, kuya, ate, suki -- words not created on "Filipino" turf. We might as well get rid of Adobo, Mechado, Pancit, Palabok, Caldereta -- food brought by foreigners and colonizer and merely indigenized.
Other than than, native Tagalog speakers make up 1/4 of the population. In other words, 3/4 have Tagalog as a non-native language.José Rizal, Graciano Lopez Jaena, Pedro Alejandro Paterno, Marcelo H. del Pilar, Isabelo de los Reyes, Antonio Luna, Eduardo de Lete, Emilio Jacinto, José Palma, Leona Florentino, Felipe Calderón and Apolinario Mabini.
Wenceslao Retana and Claro Mayo Recto, both in drama and essay; Antonio M. Abad and Guillermo Gomez Wyndham, in the narrative; Fernando María Guerrero (Crisálidas, 1914), and Manuel Bernabé, both in poetry. Isidro Marfori, Cecilio Apóstol (Pentélicas, 1941), Gaspar Aquino de Belén, Flavio Zaragoza Cano (Cantos a España and De Mactán a Tirad) and others.
Guillermo Gómez Rivera, Jesús Balmori, Fr. Ignatio Francisco Alzina, Edmundo Farolán, Lourdes Castrillo Brillantes, Uldarico A. Alviola, Evangelina Guerrero.
:D
Now who are these people? They are the Filipino authors whose works are in Spanish. I am sure many of these names ring a familiar bell. Why, if we follow through with the logic of the anti-spanish Nazis amongst us, then let the bonfires and book burnings begin. Why, all works of these authors should be put to the torch according to the Nazis. :lol: :lol:
Wind Shear June 23rd, 2011, 06:40 AM Bien dicho – well said.
José Rizal, Graciano Lopez Jaena, Pedro Alejandro Paterno, Marcelo H. del Pilar, Isabelo de los Reyes, Antonio Luna, Eduardo de Lete, Emilio Jacinto, José Palma, Leona Florentino, Felipe Calderón and Apolinario Mabini.
Wenceslao Retana and Claro Mayo Recto, both in drama and essay; Antonio M. Abad and Guillermo Gomez Wyndham, in the narrative; Fernando María Guerrero (Crisálidas, 1914), and Manuel Bernabé, both in poetry. Isidro Marfori, Cecilio Apóstol (Pentélicas, 1941), Gaspar Aquino de Belén, Flavio Zaragoza Cano (Cantos a España and De Mactán a Tirad) and others.
Guillermo Gómez Rivera, Jesús Balmori, Fr. Ignatio Francisco Alzina, Edmundo Farolán, Lourdes Castrillo Brillantes, Uldarico A. Alviola, Evangelina Guerrero.
:D
Now who are these people? They are the Filipino authors whose works are in Spanish. I am sure many of these names ring a familiar bell. Why, if we follow through with the logic of the anti-spanish Nazis amongst us, then let the bonfires and book burnings begin. Why, all works of these authors should be put to the torch according to the Nazis. :lol: :lol:
And on the field of music, Plita Corrales can sing Spanish songs.
Not acknowledging Spanish is like you are turning back your past, glorious or otherwise.
Agreed. Besides, Spanish is very phonetical. We just have to get used to the accent marks :lol:
Yep. Just to be careful, wrong or missing accent is considered as wrong spelling in Spanish.
OtAkAw June 23rd, 2011, 01:37 PM Without delving deeper into the technical reasons, I support bringing back Spanish to the country 100% simply because Spanish is like, the sexiest language ever!!! :lol: ;)
I'm being the most prejudiced version of myself right now but whenever I hear the following languages being spoken... they remind me of:
French = sosyal na taong barado ang ilong
Thai = tae
Korean = mabantot na bagay na di mo maexplain
Chinese (Hokkien, Cantonese, Mandarin, whateva) = mas mabantot na bagay na mas lalong di mo maexplain
Ewan ko ba, I just find Spanish really sexy haha
xxxriainxxx June 23rd, 2011, 01:48 PM Without delving deeper into the technical reasons, I support bringing back Spanish to the country 100% simply because Spanish is like, the sexiest language ever!!! :lol: ;)
I'm being the most prejudiced version of myself right now but whenever I hear the following languages being spoken... they remind me of:
French = sosyal na taong barado ang ilong
Thai = tae
Korean = mabantot na bagay na di mo maexplain
Chinese (Hokkien, Cantonese, Mandarin, whateva) = mas mabantot na bagay na mas lalong di mo maexplain
Ewan ko ba, I just find Spanish really sexy haha
Speak in Spanish, with the top buttons of your shirt undone and baka biglang magliparan ang mga panty (pati na brief ng iilan.) :lol::lol::lol:
Pag Thai or Viet ang naririnig ko, ang pumapasok sa isip ko heto:
12tce-THLUE
:lol::lol::lol:
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 02:37 PM Given the growing number of Hispanic population in the US (Yes, illegals included...most of them reluctant to learn English...hehe...You say No hablo espanol, still speak Spanish to you), learning Spanish can bring in more investment in the Philippines not only from the US but from Spanish speaking countries as well. Spanish is the most spoken language behind Chinese (Mandarin)
Yep, I read that Tagalog has Nahuatl words. Bangketa, Atsuete, Avocado... Palengke. Palenque is like a historical site in Mexico. Ah, interesting! :D How it came to mean "wet market" in Tagalog. :lol:
I might add, given Filipinos familiarity with the English structure and some Spanish words, it would be quite easier for us to learn Spanish
Tiangge from Tiangue. Tsamporado from Champurrado.
I finished A2 level at Instituto Cervantes. I plan to reach C1 level at least. I agree it is the most natural language for us to learn. We did embrace English even if the Americans killed 1 million Filipinos at the turn of the century. What was the population back then? 10 million? So they wiped out 10 percent of the population. Wow. We already forgot about that. The atrocities of the Japanese during WW2 which is the most recent humiliation we suffered as a race from a foreign power is just a fading memory. We now love everything Japanese. We are said to be a forgiving nation. However, we are incapable of forgiving our most ancient colonizers, the Spaniards. Why is that?
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 02:48 PM Yes. It's time to reclaim our place in Latino world. Learning Spanish also do not entail learning entirely new scripts as one would do for Chinese, Korean, etc. Spanish is also a non-tonal language.
Filipinos are Asians with an obvious Latino culture who think they are Americans. :D
xxxriainxxx June 23rd, 2011, 02:55 PM Tiangge from Tiangue. Tsamporado from Champurrado.
I finished A2 level at Instituto Cervantes. I plan to reach C1 level at least. I agree it is the most natural language for us to learn. We did embrace English even if the Americans killed 1 million Filipinos at the turn of the century. What was the population back then? 10 million? So they wiped out 10 percent of the population. Wow. We already forgot about that. The atrocities of the Japanese during WW2 which is the most recent humiliation we suffered as a race from a foreign power is just a fading memory. We now love everything Japanese. We are said to be a forgiving nation. However, we are incapable of forgiving our most ancient colonizers, the Spaniards. Why is that?
We cant forget something we dont know. Check our history books. None ever mentioned that. Crazy. I was shocked when I found out much much later in life.
Filipinos are Asians with an obvious Latino culture who think they are Americans. :D
Oye dude. :lol:
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 03:16 PM We cant forget something we dont know. Check our history books. None ever mentioned that. Crazy. I was shocked when I found out much much later in life.
That is true. Nung nag quarter life crisis ko na rin yan nalaman. Haha. John Sayles, the multi awarded director who directs Amigo, a movie about the Fil-Am War, also noticed this selective amnesia of both the Philippines and the USA.
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 03:23 PM Speak in Spanish, with the top buttons of your shirt undone and baka biglang magliparan ang mga panty (pati na brief ng iilan.) :lol::lol::lol:
Pag Thai or Viet ang naririnig ko, ang pumapasok sa isip ko heto:
12tce-THLUE
:lol::lol::lol:
I am not racist but I cringe every time I watch a Thai movie. I just find their language odd. I bet Cambodians and Viets sound the same. Bahasa is more tolerable. Maybe because it is related to the languages in the Philippines with a common Austronesian origin.
xxxriainxxx June 23rd, 2011, 03:36 PM I am not racist but I cringe every time I watch a Thai movie. I just find their language odd. I bet Cambodians and Viets sound the same. Bahasa is more tolerable. Maybe because it is related to the languages in the Philippines with a common Austronesian origin.
I like the sound of Bahasa Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia. It sounds like Cebuano. :) And it sounds easy to learn too.
Khmer is not tonal, so it's quite different from Thai and Viet.
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 03:42 PM That is true. Nung nag quarter life crisis ko na rin yan nalaman. Haha. John Sayles, the multi awarded director who directs Amigo, a movie about the Fil-Am War, also noticed this selective amnesia of both the Philippines and the USA.
I speculate it is BOTH sides played it dirty. The Americans learned waterboarding from us :lol: Besides, on the Filipino side, we had dirty internal politics. On the American side, yeah it was an imperialistic war with not much of a cause. And the Phil-AM war was partly due to Aguinaldo's own miscalculation :lol::lol:
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 04:08 PM I like the sound of Bahasa Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia. It sounds like Cebuano. :) And it sounds easy to learn too.
Khmer is not tonal, so it's quite different from Thai and Viet.
Yeah sounds like Cebuano. I heard the Indonesian embassy offers free language courses. I'm interested in enrolling. :)
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 04:13 PM I speculate it is BOTH sides played it dirty. The Americans learned waterboarding from us :lol: Besides, on the Filipino side, we had dirty internal politics. On the American side, yeah it was an imperialistic war with not much of a cause. And the Phil-AM war was partly due to Aguinaldo's own miscalculation :lol::lol:
Good analysis. So the Pinoys want to protect the image of our so called heroes and the Americans their so called "benevolent" assimilation propaganda.
Kawawa pala talaga ang mga Katila. Sila lang ang masama. Kelangan pa ba hulugan sila ng atomic bomb para mapatawad ng mga Pinoy? :lol:
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 04:20 PM Good analysis. So the Pinoys want to protect the image of our so called heroes and the Americans their so called "benevolent" assimilation propaganda.
Kawawa pala talaga ang mga Katila. Sila lang ang masama. Kelangan pa ba hulugan sila ng atomic bomb para mapatawad ng mga Pinoy? :lol:
Yeah, half truths. :lol: It doesn't help that Aguinaldo, I read, ordered the execution of one of his finest generals, Antonio Luna. Not to mention, he had Bonifacio executed due to politics. Dagdag mo pa yung miscalculation nya sa mga Americano :lol: Adding those up, it puts Aguinaldo, the very first president into a bad light :lol:
Mercato June 23rd, 2011, 04:37 PM Oi, bai animo, marami tayong amigos dito ngayon. :D
And on the field of music, Plita Corrales can sing Spanish songs.
Not acknowledging Spanish is like you are turning back your past, glorious or otherwise.
Yep. Just to be careful, wrong or missing accent is considered as wrong spelling in Spanish.Speaking of Pilita, jejeje. :D
HLlggRXdIcYTiangge from Tiangue. Tsamporado from Champurrado.
I finished A2 level at Instituto Cervantes. I plan to reach C1 level at least. I agree it is the most natural language for us to learn. We did embrace English even if the Americans killed 1 million Filipinos at the turn of the century. What was the population back then? 10 million? So they wiped out 10 percent of the population. Wow. We already forgot about that. The atrocities of the Japanese during WW2 which is the most recent humiliation we suffered as a race from a foreign power is just a fading memory. We now love everything Japanese. We are said to be a forgiving nation. However, we are incapable of forgiving our most ancient colonizers, the Spaniards. Why is that? The answer is La Leyenda Negra.
Viva Hispanidad! :lol:
Without delving deeper into the technical reasons, I support bringing back Spanish to the country 100% simply because Spanish is like, the sexiest language ever!!! :lol: ;)
I'm being the most prejudiced version of myself right now but whenever I hear the following languages being spoken... they remind me of:
French = sosyal na taong barado ang ilong
Thai = tae
Korean = mabantot na bagay na di mo maexplain
Chinese (Hokkien, Cantonese, Mandarin, whateva) = mas mabantot na bagay na mas lalong di mo maexplain
Ewan ko ba, I just find Spanish really sexy hahaSpeak in Spanish, with the top buttons of your shirt undone and baka biglang magliparan ang mga panty (pati na brief ng iilan.) :lol::lol::lol:Oh really now? :naughty: Did I hear the word sexy? Coz the title Latin Lover is a title quite well deserved, you know. ;)
*if sex appeal is one way of promoting hispanidad, pues porque no?* :lol:
Shakira and Rafael Nadal will show what sexy is all about. :lol:
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xxxriainxxx June 23rd, 2011, 05:04 PM ^^ Enrique Iglesias is one proof that Filipino and Spanish mix is way too caliente. :D
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Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 05:51 PM ^^^Do you think Isabel Preysler has "Indio" blood? She looks like a "Filipino" in a colonial sense of the word, a Spaniard born and grew up in the Philippines.
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 05:54 PM Shakira and Rafa is one hell of a hot couple! :D
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 06:07 PM ^^^Do you think Isabel Preysler has "Indio" blood? She looks like a "Filipino" in a colonial sense of the word, a Spaniard born and grew up in the Philippines.
No se. But I think she is of Spanish decent, I read it somewhere...
Have you guys heard of Junior? I heard he is related to the Barretto clan
Mercato June 23rd, 2011, 06:56 PM ^^ of course. :D Junior, Antonio Morales Baretto, was born in Manila. His late wife was Spanish singer Rocío Dúrcal and his famous singer-daughter is Shaila Dúrcal. His nieces (daughters of his maternal cousin Miguel) are actresses Gretchen Barretto, Claudine Barretto, and Marjorie Barretto.
^^ Enrique Iglesias is one proof that Filipino and Spanish mix is way too caliente. :D:D :D Filipino Enrique Iglesias in a duet with Filipina Nicole Scherzinger. :D Her biological father Alfonso Valiente, is of Filipino descent. She only got the Scherzinger surname from her stepfather.
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Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 07:05 PM Everytime I hear someone with a Filipino father, it feels so WEIRD :lol:
No like Pinays? :lol:
Out of curiosity, how do you guys feel when you encounter a foreigner who has a Pinay wife or who has a thing for Pinays. Don't you feel that foreigners ares tealing "our women"? :lol:
Mercato June 23rd, 2011, 07:10 PM ^^ Bakit naman nagkaganun, e di pagusapan ang other half of the duet. :lol:
Di ba Pinay ang mommy ni Enrique Iglesias na si Isabel Preysler?? :lol:
Bakit stealing?? E di ba choice ng Pinay yan kung sino gusto niya? I dont look at it like stealing, it's her choice.
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 07:13 PM ^^maybe it is because it's a rare paring. Even in local Chinese relationships, the girl is usually Pinay. Same with foreign non-Chinese.
It is either Pinays are less inclined with Pinoys or that our women are just that hot that foreigners want a share of our pie. :lol:
Mercato June 23rd, 2011, 07:19 PM ^^maybe it is because it's a rare paring. Even in local Chinese relationships, the girl is usually Pinay. Same with foreign non-Chinese.
It is either Pinays are less inclined with Pinoys or that our women are just that hot that foreigners want a share of our pie. :lol: I had been told by quite a number of Singaporean male friends and colleagues that they do find the Pinay beauty very stunning and kinda "different" daw in a positive way. And I had been told the same by half a dozen Brazilians based in singapore, the same appeal they find in pinays. One Brazilian confided that it's the spanish asian mix he finds so hot. That was their opinion.
Greypilgrim June 23rd, 2011, 07:25 PM No se. But I think she is of Spanish decent, I read it somewhere...
It's weird to claim Enrique as one of our own if his mother doesn't have native Filipino blood flowing in her veins. Well she's still Filipino in citizenship.
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 07:26 PM ^^Ang kinatatakot ko baka maubusan tayo ng supply kung makikishare sila...equal pa naman din ang ratio ng Pinoy sa Pinay and many have engaged in transnational marriage with foreigners... :o
:lol: :lol:
Mercato June 23rd, 2011, 07:30 PM It's weird to claim Enrique as one of our own if his mother doesn't have native Filipino blood flowing in her veins. Well she's still Filipino in citizenship.But the term Filipino is not a race. The term Filipino denotes nationality. :D If we need to be pedantic about native Malay blood, thousands of thoroughbred Chinese will lose their "Filipino-ness" not to mention a huge chunk of the Azkals and PBA imports. :D
Nabartek June 23rd, 2011, 07:31 PM But the term Filipino is not a race. The term Filipino denotes nationality. :D If we need to be pedantic about native Malay blood, thousands of thoroughbred Chinese will lose their "Filipino-ness" not to mention a huge chunk of the Azkals and PBA imports. :D
That dude from Smart Gilas(Douhit) is now even a Filipino :lol: By senate decree :lol:
Animo June 24th, 2011, 04:11 AM Oi, bai animo, marami tayong amigos dito ngayon.
Haha, really cool. :) I am a Filipinist (well true a little bit of a Hispanist). ;) I prefer to acknowledge the whole truth of Philippine identity, culture, and history. It's a sad fact that many Filipino's have this disease: selective amnesia. Another famous "Filipino" that you guys forgot to mention is Luis Eduardo Aute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Eduardo_Aute).
I haven't been participating much in this forum since I'm too busy with the real world but I do check this place sometimes. :(
^^^Do you think Isabel Preysler has "Indio" blood? She looks like a "Filipino" in a colonial sense of the word, a Spaniard born and grew up in the Philippines.
She looks Asiatic and definitely has "native" blood. We have a family friend (older lady) who looks more European than her and always gets mistaken as "American" but she is a Filipina of Spanish descent. Heck, she will speak Tagalog or Cebuano to other Filipinos but they still think she's a foreigner. :lol:
These are her relatives living in Manila when she visited them.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bjeVPmM61xY/R0x0EBXLkEI/AAAAAAAABew/nLNpTv_X6xQ/s400/ISABELPREYSLERRETURNPHILIPPINES.jpg
http://top-people.starmedia.com/tmp/swotti/cacheAXNHYMVSIHBYZXLZBGVYUGVVCGXLLVBLB3BSZQ==/imgIsabel%20Preysler3.jpg
Just look at her without the magic of Photoshop. :D
xxxriainxxx June 24th, 2011, 04:46 AM ^^ Sabi ng friend ko na Pinay, habulin din daw ng mga chicks ang mga Pinoy sa Singapore (mostly Indonesian girls). :)
Sa Middle East, dinig ko, (literally) hinahabol at nirerape ang mga Pinoy.
Hirap talaga maging pogi ano? :D
manileño June 24th, 2011, 04:57 AM Just look at her without the magic of Photoshop. :D
yea, she looks like a cougar hehe :jk: i didn't know you were into milfs, tio. :lol: but tienes nice taste ey :D
btw, more than an 'india' she's called 'la china' in Spain. True asian hotness :D
xxxriainxxx June 24th, 2011, 05:08 AM yea, she looks like a cougar hehe :jk: i didn't know you were into milfs, tio. :lol: but tienes nice taste ey :D
btw, more than an 'india' she's called 'la china' in Spain. True asian hotness :D
^^ dapat "la Filipina" :D
Pag "la China" peke yan. :D
Nabartek June 24th, 2011, 05:39 AM ^^ Tama! no somos los chinos :lol:
manileño June 24th, 2011, 05:43 AM ^^ ehhh.. you know the peninsulares y europeos, para sa kanila para ellos, we all look chinos. :lol::lol:
Animo June 24th, 2011, 07:00 AM Hirap talaga maging pogi ano? :D
Ewan ko lang kasi nung nakatira ako sa Espanya sabi nung ina ng kaibigan ko guapo daw ako. Haha, exotic ika nga dahil almond eyes pero hindi chinese looking. :lol:
yea, she looks like a cougar hehe :jk: i didn't know you were into milfs, tio. :lol: but tienes nice taste ey :D
btw, more than an 'india' she's called 'la china' in Spain. True asian hotness :D
Haha, kasi meron akong kaibigan na espanyol na may-crush sa kanya. "Cute" daw sabi nya. :lol:
xxxriainxxx June 24th, 2011, 07:17 AM Ewan ko lang kasi nung nakatira ako sa Espanya sabi nung ina ng kaibigan ko guapo daw ako. Haha, exotic ika nga dahil almond eyes pero hindi chinese looking. :lol:
Haha, kasi meron akong kaibigan na espanyol na may-crush sa kanya. "Cute" daw sabi nya. :lol:
Espanya, yung malapit sa USTe? :D Joke lang. But totoo yan, iba ang appeal natin. Nung last week, pagbaba ko sa first floor, may isang cougar na local nagmention sa staff namin - Dep Chai (or something like that) - meaning 'pogi' sa lengguahe nila. Dedma lang ako para hindi halata na naintindihan ko.. :D Sa lagay na yun, harassed and pagod na ako.
One time, nagwala ako sa isang bangko dito kasi I filed for a credit card (for my travels), tapos binigay debit maski I filled out all the necessary documents. Nanginginig ako sa galit, pag alis ko, sabi ng Manager sa staff namin- Pogi yun ah, taga saan yun.:bash::bash::bash:
Mercato June 24th, 2011, 07:23 AM Haha, kasi meron akong kaibigan na espanyol na may-crush sa kanya. "Cute" daw sabi nya. :lol:
Yup, I also have a mid40s friend from Santiago, Chile and he has the hots for Isabel. When he describes Isabel may kasama pang facial expression of awe. Diba tawag sa kanya duon La Guapa? :D
^^ Sabi ng friend ko na Pinay, habulin din daw ng mga chicks ang mga Pinoy sa Singapore (mostly Indonesian girls). :)
Sa Middle East, dinig ko, (literally) hinahabol at nirerape ang mga Pinoy. Yea true how did you know? In my old flat, we used to have one visitor, Indon-Chinese lady friend of the family. Problema daw niya sister niya is havin an affair with a Pinoy guy, a newbie from some call centre in Manila. They're both in their 20s pa lang. Smooth talker daw si call centre dude and the sister is head over heels daw gusto na ring iwan ang hubby kasi coldfish daw ...
Hirap talaga maging pogi ano? :DEwan ko lang kasi nung nakatira ako sa Espanya sabi nung ina ng kaibigan ko guapo daw ako. Haha, exotic ika nga dahil almond eyes pero hindi chinese looking. :lol: Mine are "Turco" eyes accdg to my Cebuano elders. :D
Ganyan talaga tayong mga matatangos ang aquiline nose, mahirap magnose bleed. :lol: :lol:
Animo June 24th, 2011, 07:31 AM Yup, I also have a mid40s friend from Santiago, Chile and he has the hots for Isabel. When he describes Isabel may kasama pang facial expression of awe. Diba tawag sa kanya duon La Guapa? :D
Ang problema kaibigan ko ay 25 anyos lang. :shifty:
amigo32 June 24th, 2011, 07:36 AM tumatangos din ilong ko pag si mercato andito:D
Nabartek June 24th, 2011, 07:37 AM la mama de azucar? :lol:
manileño June 24th, 2011, 07:43 AM Ewan ko lang kasi nung nakatira ako sa Espanya sabi nung ina ng kaibigan ko guapo daw ako. Haha, exotic ika nga dahil almond eyes pero hindi chinese looking. :lol:
mentirosa yun hehe!! ive seen your pic na kaya, kuya animo. :lol: loko lang. :jk:
Animo June 24th, 2011, 07:48 AM mentirosa yun hehe!! ive seen your pic na kaya, kuya animo. :lol: loko lang. :jk:
Sa Madrid napag-kamalan akong cubano. :lol:
xxxriainxxx June 24th, 2011, 07:51 AM Yup, I also have a mid40s friend from Santiago, Chile and he has the hots for Isabel. When he describes Isabel may kasama pang facial expression of awe. Diba tawag sa kanya duon La Guapa? :D
Yea true how did you know? In my old flat, we used to have one visitor, Indon-Chinese lady friend of the family. Problema daw niya sister niya is havin an affair with a Pinoy guy, a newbie from some call centre in Manila. They're both in their 20s pa lang. Smooth talker daw si call centre dude and the sister is head over heels daw gusto na ring iwan ang hubby kasi coldfish daw ...
Mine are "Turco" eyes accdg to my Cebuano elders. :D
Ganyan talaga tayong mga matatangos ang aquiline nose, mahirap magnose bleed. :lol: :lol:
Dinig ko sa mga kakilala ko sa SG eh.
Re call centre dude. Naku, nasales talk si Kumareng Indones? Patay.
Ang problema kaibigan ko ay 25 anyos lang. :shifty:
Si Ashton Kutcher nagpauso nyan. :D
Pero, Isabel Preysler is BEAUTIFUL. Very regal.
manileño June 24th, 2011, 08:13 AM Sa Madrid napag-kamalan akong cubano. :lol:
ok lang cubano, wag lang marroqui kung hinde lagot ka sa matamoros :lol:
Mercato June 24th, 2011, 08:07 PM Belated Happy Birthday, Doctor José P. Rizal. :cheers2:
Dr. José P. Rizal, who was born on June 19, 1861, marks his 150th birth anniversary in Calamba, Laguna. :banana: This calls for a celebration... teka muna...
Sa Madrid napag-kamalan akong cubano. :lol:
Sa Rome napagkamalan ako ng isang Italianong cardinal na taga Guatemala. :D
Mercato June 24th, 2011, 08:13 PM *credits to the hispanofilipino site for the poem
CHAPTER TWO: Ateneo
POR LA EDUCACIÓN RECIBE LUSTRE LA PATRIA
Dr. José P. Rizal
La sabia educación, vital aliento,
Infunde una virtud encantadora;
Ella eleva la patria al alto asiento
De la Gloria immortal, deslumbradora,
Y cual de fresca al soplo lento
Reverdece el matiz de flor odora;
Asi la educación, con sabia mano,
Bienhechora engrandece al ser humano.
Por ella sacrifice su existencia
El mortal y el plácido reposo;
Por ella nacer vénse el are y ciencia
Quo ciñen al humano lauro hermoso:
Y cual del alto monte en la eminecia
Brota el puro raudal e arroya undoso;
Así la educación da sin mesura
Á la pataria do mora paz segura.
Do sabia educación, trono levanta
Lozana juventud robusta crece,
Que subyuga el error con firme planta
Y con nobles ideas se engrandece:
Del vicio la cerviz, ella quebranta;
Negro crimen ante ella palidece:
Ella domeña bábaras naciones,
Y de salvajes hace campenes.
Y cual el manantial, que alimentando
La plantas, los arbustos de la vega,
Do plácido caudal va derramando,
Y con bondoso afán constante riega
Las ribaras do vase deslizando,
Y á la bella natura nada niega;
Tal el que sabia educación procura:
Del honor se levanta hasta la altura.
De sus labios las agues cristalínas
De célica virtud sin cesar brotan,
Y de se fe las provides doctrinas
Del mal las fuerzas débiles agotan,
Que se estrellan cual vias blanquecinas
Que las playas inmóviles azotan:
Y aprenden con su ejemplo los mortals
Á trepar por la sendas celestials.
En el pecho de míseros humanos
Ella enciende del bien la viva llama;
Al fiero criminal ata las manos,
Y el Consuelo en los pechos fiel derrama
Que buscan sus benéficos arcanos,
Y en el emor del bien su pecho inflama:
Y es la educación noble y cumplida
El básamo seguro de la vida.
Y cual pennon que elévase altanero
En medio de las ondas borrascosas
Al bramar de huracán y Noto fiero,
Desprecia su furor y olas furiosas,
Que fatigadas del horror primero
Le retiran en calma temerosas:
Tal el que sabia eduación dirige
Las riendas de la paria invico rige.
En zafiros entállense sus hechos;
Tribútele la patria mil honores;
Pues de sus hijos en los nobles pechos
Trasplantó la virtud lozanas flores;
Y en el amor del bien siempre deshechos
Verán los gobernates y señores
Al noble pueblo que con fiel ventura
Cristiana educación siempre procura.
Y cual de rubio sol en la mañana
Vierten oro los rayos esplendentes,
Y cual la bella aurora de ora y grana
Esparce sus colores refulgentes;
Tal la noble instrucción ofreceufana
De virtud el placer á nuestra cara patria ilustre
Inmortal splendor ofrece y luster.
THROUGH EDUCATION OUR MOTHERLAND RECEIVES LIGHT
The vital breath of prudent Education
Instills a virtue of enchanting power;
She lifts the motherland to highest station
And endless dazzling glories on her shower.
And as the zephyr's gentle exhalation
Revives the matrix of the fragrant flower,
So education multiplies her gifts of grace;
With prudent hand imparts them to the human race.
For her a mortal-man will gladly part
With all he has; will give his calm repose;
For her are born all science and all art,
That brows of men with laurel fair enclose.
As from the towering mountain's lofty heart
The purest current of the streamlet flows,
So education without stint or measure gives
Security and peace to lands in which she lives.
Where Education reigns on lofty seat
Youth blossoms forth with vigor and agility;
He error subjugates with solid feet,
And is exalted by conceptions of nobility.
She breaks the neck of vice and its deceit;
Black crime turns pale at Her hostility;
The barbarous nations She knows how to tame,
From savages creates heroic fame.
And as the spring doth sustenance bestow
On all the plants, on bushes in the mead,
Its placid plenty goes to overflow
And endlessly with lavish love to feed
The banks by which it wanders, gliding slow,
Supplying beauteous nature's every need;
So he who prudent Education doth procure
The towering heights of honor will secure.
From out his lips the water, crystal pure,
Of perfect virtue shall not cease to go.
With careful doctrines of his faith made sure,
The powers of evil he will overthrow,
Like foaming waves that never long endure,
But perish on the shore at every blow;
And from his good example other men shall learn
Their upward steps toward the heavenly paths to turn.
Within the breast of wretched humankind
She lights the living flame of goodness bright;
The hands of fiercest criminal doth bind;
And in those breasts will surely pour delight
Which seek her mystic benefits to find,
Those souls She sets aflame with love of right.
It is a noble fully-rounded Education
That gives to life its surest consolation.
And as the mighty rock aloft may tower
Above the center of the stormy deep
In scorn of storm, or fierce Sou'wester's power,
Or fury of the waves that raging seep,
Until, their first mad hatred spent, they cower,
And, tired at last, subside and fall asleep, --
So he that takes wise Education by the hand,
Invincible shall guide the reigns of motherland.
On sapphires shall his service be engraved,
A thousand honors to him by his land be granted:
For in their bosoms will his noble sons have saved
Luxuriant flowers his virtue had transplanted:
And by the love of goodness ever laved,
The lords and governors will see implanted
To endless days, the Christian Education,
Within their noble, faith-enrapture nation.
And as in early morning we behold
The ruby sun pour forth resplendent rays;
And lovely dawn her scarlet and her gold,
Her brilliant colors all about her sprays;
So skillful noble Teaching doth unfold
To living minds the joy of virtuous ways.
She offers our dear motherland the light
That leads us to immortal glory's height.
:cool:
r0mm3l July 6th, 2011, 12:01 PM UP, Ateneo in world's top 50 English-teaching universities
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/07/06/11/ateneo-worlds-top-50-english-teaching-universities
MANILA, Philippines - The University of the Philippines (UP) and the Ateneo de Manila University (ADMU) are among the top 50 English-teaching universities in the world, education and career network QS reported.
State-run UP in Diliman, Quezon City is the country's top English-teaching university this year, ranking 34th in the world, followed closely by private school ADMU at 35th place.
De La Salle University (DLSU) was in the 50-100 bracket while University of Santo Tomas (UST) belonged to the 101-150 bracket.
QS did not provide specific ranks for universities that did not make it to the top 50.
Schools from the United States dominated the top 10 list of English-teaching universities: Harvard University (1st), University of California, Berkeley (4th), Yale University (5th), Columbia University (6th), Stanford University (8th), University of California, Los Angeles (9th) and University of Chicago (10th).
University of Oxford and University of Cambridge, which are both in the United Kingdom, ranked 2nd and 3rd, respectively.
University of Toronto in Canada, meanwhile, landed in 7th place.
QS announced the top 200 universities in Asia last May, and 4 Philippine schools made it to the list. UP ranked 62nd, followed by ADMU (65th), UST (104th) and DLSU (107th).
Kabataan party-list Rep. Raymond Palatino earlier lamented that except for UP, all of the country's state colleges and universities (SUCs) are still neglected by the government.
He noted that the Philippines is "dominated by private schools." There are only 112 SUCs in the country with a population of 90 million, he add
Greypilgrim July 8th, 2011, 01:32 AM 'Amigo': A beautiful film on forgotten war between the Philippines & America
The funniest thing was when at the close of the Spanish-American War the United States paid poor decrepit old Spain $20,000,000 for the Philippines… There were the Filipinos fighting like blazes for their liberty. Spain would not hear to it. The United States stepped in, and after they had licked the enemy to a standstill, instead of freeing the Filipinos they paid that enormous amount for an island which is of no earthly account to us; just wanted to be like the aristocratic countries of Europe which have possessions in foreign waters. The United States wanted to be in the swim, and it, too, had to branch out, like an American heiress buying a Duke or an Earl. Sounds well, but that’s all. — Mark Twain interview, Baltimore Sun, May 10, 1907
This writer enjoyed watching the “takip silim” Philippine premiere of the American film Amigo directed and written by US independent filmmaker John Sayles last June 28 at TriNoma mall in Quezon City. Thanks to Sayles also for gifting me with an autographed copy of his 955-page novel A Moment in the Sun, from which he got inspiration for this film.
Among the numerous guests at the movie premiere were the late Carlos P. Romulo’s American widow Beth Day Romulo and lots of history scholars. A colorful exhibit of film costumes by Gino Gonzales titled “Veiled Memories of a Forgotten Past” is still on view from June 28 to July 5 at TriNoma cinema lobby.
Amigo is neither blindly pro-American nor shrilly anti-American. It’s a beautiful well-crafted film with good drama, deft humor, subtle irony and fine cinematography. It fairly and unemotionally presents both sides — the American and Filipino side — of a long-forgotten and ugly war between the Philippines and America over a century ago.
Is an unemotional review of unvarnished Philippine history and of US involvement here in our isles, such as this movie Amigo depicts, a good way to build realistic bilateral relations between us and our former colonizer based on equality, realpolitik and mutual benefits?
The almost timeless rural landscape of Philippine barrio life — the beautiful setting for an ugly war — was shot by Sayles in Barangay Toril in the Maribojoc municipality of Bohol province.
Amigo is a cinematic pleasure, from period costumes circa 1900, age-old rice-planting and harvesting rites, Catholic religiosity, admirable communal efforts to build a nipa hut for a local resident afflicted with then-incurable tuberculosis, the making of native wine called tuba, the colorful pastime of sabong or cock-fighting, to the “sacred as well as profane” custom of our annual fiestas or religious feasts for local patron saints.
Showing in selected SM, Robinsons and Ayala malls starting July 6 — around the same time as such Hollywood blockbusters as Transformers 3D, Harry Potter Part 7 and local flick Temptation Island hit cinemas — Amigo showcases good solid acting by Joel Torre as the well-intentioned yet conflicted chief Rafael Dacanay of the occupied village of San Isidro in northern Luzon; Rio Locsin as the pious and longsuffering wife of the village chief; Garret Dillahunt as the civilized Lt. Compton who is a pacifist at heart; and Oscar-winning actor Chris Cooper as American war freak Colonel Hardacre who is uncompromising in using brutal force to crush the Filipino rebels.
Cooperating with american invaders: treason or just survival?
The petty bourgeoisie landlord and village chief Rafael Dacanay is torn between paternalistic duty to keep his village safe and pressures to obey the increasingly difficult dictates of the brash new colonizers. Ominously, the ragtag rebels in the hills and even his own runaway son already suspect him of having become a “collaborator” with the new oppressors.
Director Sayles — who, according to former 2010 presidential candidate Nic Perlas, has read over 100 books on the Philippine-American War — revealed that the turmoil faced by the village chief in his film was a real-life dilemma confronted by various Filipino cabezas of that bloody era.
Indeed, not a few of the Filipino elite ilustrados of the Philippine revolution against Spain quickly defected, one by one, to the new colonizers and even assisted in thwarting Filipino rebels like General Macario Sakay. How do we assess their historic roles?
Other characters depicted in Amigo include the Tagalog-speaking and devious Spanish Catholic friar (played by Tony nominee Yul Vasquez) who was the parish priest of the area before the revolution against Spain had him and some Spanish soldiers locked up; also the ill-equipped but persistent Filipino rebels in the hills — labeled “landrones” or “bandits” by the Americans and led by Rafael Dacanay’s former seminarian brother Simon (Ronnie Lazaro).
Outsiders to the barrio in the film were the energetic Cantonese-speaking Chinese coolies brought in by the Americans to construct the basic communication and other public works facilities; but nowhere, I noticed, was any Hokkien-speaking local Chinese trader or storekeeper depicted in the film. How could barrio life be complete without the hardworking and resilient Chinese storekeeper of the tienda, equivalent to Dr. Jose Rizal’s Quiroga in Noli Me Tangere?
Philippines prepared for self-rule as us was in its 1776 revolution
I highly recommend this well-made, thought-provoking and interesting film, not only for its entertainment value, but in order for us to better understand and continue exploring what was once called the Philippine-American War from 1899 to 1902. Filmmaker Sayles told this writer that Filipino armed resistance to the US invasion, especially with numerous Moro rebellions in Mindanao, actually continued up to 1914.
With tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands in military as well as civilian deaths, the Philippine-American War was considered by historians as a precursor to America’s 20th century Vietnam War, the later Iraq invasion of George W. Bush and even the now controversial USA-led NATO military attacks in the Libyan Civil War.
Anti-guerrilla tactics of the Phil-Am War — such as hamletting, water cure tortures and merciless scorched-earth policies — were depicted in Amigo; these controversial strategies were also to be deployed half a century later by US troops in the ‘60s-‘70s Vietnam War with US military deployment rising to as many as 536,100 soldiers.
Amigo will be released in the US in August. It has deservedly garnered 10 Urian Awards nominations from the Philippine Film Critics Association, for 2011 Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, Best Cinematography, Best Musical Score, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress and Best Production Design.
True, American colonial occupation of the Philippines was more progressive than that of 333 years of Spanish colonial misrule; however, this writer still believes that colonialism in all forms is morally wrong and wars of colonial conquest are unjustifiable.
When I asked Sayles if his own country was right in claiming that the Philippines in 1899 “was not yet prepared for self-rule,” he readily replied: “If I were alive then, I would have been against the US invasion. If we were true to our democratic principles, we should have helped the Philippines to fight Spain. I believe it was a combination of greed and racism. Filipinos in 1899 were as prepared for self-rule as the Americans were in 1776 or the Vietnamese were in their 1960s revolution. If we had not invaded the Philippines, Filipinos then would have been like Mexico on the rocky road, but their problems in Mexico after independence didn’t mean the US had the right to take over Mexico.”
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=702095&publicationSubCategoryId=86
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Now showing in theaters nationwide!
TambayBlues July 15th, 2011, 02:22 AM One of the reasons Koreans are flocking to the Philippines. I guess they're also becoming increasingly frustrated with the high cost of education. :lol:
Korean Students Protest Tuition Hike - June 4, 2011
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carrieso August 3rd, 2011, 01:36 AM napanood nyo ba ang Report Card ni mike Grabe,,,, nakanatin natin pa ikw ha Sec.....
Ady001 August 5th, 2011, 04:21 AM One of the most important lectures that we cannot take for granted:
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GodIsNotGreat August 6th, 2011, 03:27 AM [QUOTE=Ady001;82558033]One of the most important lectures that we cannot take for granted:
^^ An inspiring speech and an eye opener for teachers, educators and parents.
the glimpser August 23rd, 2011, 03:47 PM Philippines has 26k foreign students
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-26k-foreign-students-052002848.html
By Jerome Aning in Manila/Philippine Daily Inquirer
ANN – Mon, Aug 22, 2011
Manila (Philippine Daily Inquirer/ANN) - More than 26,000 foreigners are currently studying in various schools throughout the Philippines with South Koreans topping the list, according to the Bureau of Immigration.
Immigration Commissioner Ricardo David Jr., in a statement, disclosed that more than 17,000 college enrollees accounted for the bulk of the foreign students while the rest were studying in elementary and high school or taking short-term language courses.
David said those enrolled in college are holders of student visa while elementary and high-school students are issued special study permits (SSPs).
He explained that both the student visa and SSP are issued by the BI to qualified foreign students pursuant to Section 9(f) of the Philippine Immigration Act.
The BI chief cited the increasing number of foreigners studying here as ¿proof that the Philippines is fast emerging as a major educational hub in the Asia-Pacific region."
¿The fact that more and more foreigners are opting to study here is testament to the improving standard and quality of education provided by the country¿s learning institutions," David said.
BI student desk chief, lawyer Grace Gaudelyn, said that of the 17,087 foreigners who applied for student visas from July 2010 to June this year, 12,806 are old students while 4,281 are newcomers.
She explained that foreign students are still considered tourists; thus, they are required to update their stay as temporary visitors while studying in the country.
Lara said that South Koreans, numbering 11,612, topped the list of the foreign students, followed by 3,961 Chinese and 3,225 Iranians.
Under existing BI rules, only schools or language centers accredited by the BI are authorized to admit foreigners for enrollment.
There are 104 schools and learning institutions nationwide accredited by the BI.
Askal82 August 25th, 2011, 03:59 AM One of the most important lectures that we cannot take for granted:
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I wholeheartedly agree with him. The existing model of education placed so much limitations on our individual expressions and creativity for the sake of conforming to society's expectation where premiums are placed on occupations that require language and logic. These requirements meant submitting yourself to be a corporate slave, instead of discovering your potential opportunities with the talent and skill you innately possessed.
I remembered one time, my brother really wanted to take computer graphics design when he started to design his own wall papers. My parents, being pragmatic, dissuaded him from pursuing that field simply because its 'too competitive' and 'jobs in that occupation are very scarce'. He ended up taking nursing instead. :lol:
Ephesus29 August 28th, 2011, 08:59 AM Philippines has 26k foreign students
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-26k-foreign-students-052002848.html
By Jerome Aning in Manila/Philippine Daily Inquirer
ANN – Mon, Aug 22, 2011
Manila (Philippine Daily Inquirer/ANN) - More than 26,000 foreigners are currently studying in various schools throughout the Philippines with South Koreans topping the list, according to the Bureau of Immigration.
Immigration Commissioner Ricardo David Jr., in a statement, disclosed that more than 17,000 college enrollees accounted for the bulk of the foreign students while the rest were studying in elementary and high school or taking short-term language courses.
David said those enrolled in college are holders of student visa while elementary and high-school students are issued special study permits (SSPs).
He explained that both the student visa and SSP are issued by the BI to qualified foreign students pursuant to Section 9(f) of the Philippine Immigration Act.
The BI chief cited the increasing number of foreigners studying here as ¿proof that the Philippines is fast emerging as a major educational hub in the Asia-Pacific region."
¿The fact that more and more foreigners are opting to study here is testament to the improving standard and quality of education provided by the country¿s learning institutions," David said.
BI student desk chief, lawyer Grace Gaudelyn, said that of the 17,087 foreigners who applied for student visas from July 2010 to June this year, 12,806 are old students while 4,281 are newcomers.
She explained that foreign students are still considered tourists; thus, they are required to update their stay as temporary visitors while studying in the country.
Lara said that South Koreans, numbering 11,612, topped the list of the foreign students, followed by 3,961 Chinese and 3,225 Iranians.
Under existing BI rules, only schools or language centers accredited by the BI are authorized to admit foreigners for enrollment.
There are 104 schools and learning institutions nationwide accredited by the BI.
WOW! Philippines is becoming an international educational hub as affirmed by the increasing numbers of foreign students coming to the Philippines to study.The standard of education in the Philippines is highly recognized internationally without any doubt. However, looking at how the Philippines fare with the rest of its neighbour, the country is not utilizing its educated skilled, and trained graduates. Instead, graduates opt to leave the country and look for a better employment abroad. This has to stop.
amigo32 August 28th, 2011, 09:46 AM Don't worry if that won't stop. We will start hiring Koreans, Iranians, Chinese Americans etc... to replace Filipinos. :D
Oh by the way, i have a Korean technician fixing my machine:D right now.
Nabartek August 28th, 2011, 09:53 AM ^^ Is that good news or bad news? LOL
MatudNilaBaby August 28th, 2011, 09:03 PM WOW! Philippines is becoming an international educational hub as affirmed by the increasing numbers of foreign students coming to the Philippines to study.The standard of education in the Philippines is highly recognized internationally without any doubt. However, looking at how the Philippines fare with the rest of its neighbour, the country is not utilizing its educated skilled, and trained graduates. Instead, graduates opt to leave the country and look for a better employment abroad. This has to stop.
dont worry about people leaving the country because they bring in the money in the form of remittances which is helping the economy just like people working in our country. besides both government and private sectors cant create enough jobs for our graduates so whats the use of letting them stay in the country and be unemployed? if their knowledge and skills are utilized somewhere else other than the philippines so let it be.
may mga ugali naman tayong mga pilipino to look back sa kanilang pinangagalingan so yon na magpadala na nag pera or balikbayan boxes o dadalaw na. ibang iba ang contribution nong nasa labas nang country pero parehos lang din yan makakatulong din.
Nabartek August 29th, 2011, 05:10 AM I wholeheartedly agree with him. The existing model of education placed so much limitations on our individual expressions and creativity for the sake of conforming to society's expectation where premiums are placed on occupations that require language and logic. These requirements meant submitting yourself to be a corporate slave, instead of discovering your potential opportunities with the talent and skill you innately possessed.
I remembered one time, my brother really wanted to take computer graphics design when he started to design his own wall papers. My parents, being pragmatic, dissuaded him from pursuing that field simply because its 'too competitive' and 'jobs in that occupation are very scarce'. He ended up taking nursing instead. :lol:
It's not just being corporate slaves. Basically, political and "cultural" slaves, too.
It's a world of conformity for humans. Doesn't matter if it is "democracy", "communism", "dictatorship"...or whatnot
Welcome to the world of "humans"
leofriends August 29th, 2011, 06:13 AM Schoolgirl, 12, honored for saving Philippine flag (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/10317/albay-girl-honored-for-saving-philippine-flag)
By Jocelyn R. Uy
Philippine Daily Inquirer
7:02 pm | Thursday, August 25th, 2011
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MANILA, Philippines–No one would have thought that the shy 12-year-old girl in red sneakers had achieved a feat one would normally associate with soldiers on a battlefield: Save the country’s flag.
For her deed, a little Philippine flag was pinned on Thursday on the left collar of Janela Arcos Lelis to remind all that this was the sixth grader who saved the flag from raging floodwaters when Typhoon “Juaning” slammed her hometown in July.
Lelis, from Malinao, Albay province, was given formal recognition by the National Historical Commission of the Philippines (NHCP) for what she did—the first such honor bestowed on a Filipino child, according to the government arm that promotes Philippine history and cultural heritage.
In a simple ceremony, Lelis was awarded a plaque, a Philippine flag lapel pin and P20,000 in cash for what the NHCP called her “selfless act” of courage reflecting her love for the country. She also received a full-sized Philippine flag.
“We thank and admire Janela and we hope that your classmates and all the other young people in the country will follow your wonderful example of giving tribute to our national flag,” NHCP president Maria Serena Diokno said in Filipino before fastening the flag lapel pin on Lelis’ collar.
Filipinos first became aware of what Lelis did when a picture of her holding the Philippine flag above the floodwaters swept social networking sites. A major Manila television network later featured her story.
Risking life, limb
An NHCP board resolution also gave honor to Lelis.
“This plaque of recognition is given to (Lelis) for her exemplary action, risking life and limb to save the Philippine national flag from the rising floodwaters… at the height of Typhoon Juaning in Malinao, Albay,” said NHCP Executive Director Ludovico Badoy.
Lelis’ deed was a “selfless act of courage, reflective of her love for country and a constant reverence to the national symbol,” Badoy added.
In her crisp, white and blue uniform and high-cut red sneakers, the shy 12-year-old politely obliged endless requests for photos of her with officials, employees and visitors during and on the sidelines of Thursday’s ceremony.
A brother’s plea
In a speech, Lelis recalled how her elder brother Edcel, on that stormy day of July 26, asked her to quickly return from another house to their own home to retrieve the Philippine flag, which had been entrusted to him by his school. By then, their house was already submerged in the flood.
Speaking in Filipino, Lelis said: “We have a saying that the youth are the hope of our country. When the flood swept our place in Malinao, Albay, on July 26, this saying became true for me.”
“I did not know that young as I am, I would be able to do something good for our country. My brother, Kuya Edcel, told me to retrieve our flag from the rushing waters and that was what I did.”
Lelis’ 19-year-old brother, a color officer of the Citizen’s Army Training at Malinao National High School, could not salvage the flag himself because he was busy helping their relatives evacuate from their homes.
No fear
The waters had gone up to the level of her chest when she began to cross the water.
“I just held on tightly to a rope that our barangay captain had set up for the evacuation so I wasn’t swept away by the floodwaters,” Lelis said, shyly recounting in the dialect her experience to the Inquirer.
She did not feel fear or apprehension, she said.
While she remembered what her teachers had taught her about respecting the flag and not allowing it to get dirty, Lelis said she was also concerned about her brother if the flag was lost.
“He would have to pay for it if it was lost,” she said.
Memorable photo
The flag was already dripping wet and partly covered in muck when she retrieved it from their home.
“I immediately removed the mud and returned to the shelter,” Lelis said.
The NHCP got wind of her story when her brave act was immortalized in a photograph taken by a Malinao resident, Frank Lurzano. The photo circulated in social networking sites.
A good example
Teodoro Atienza, NHCP’s heraldry chief, said Lelis was worthy of emulation as she had done something not even adults had accomplished.
In his more than 30 years at the NHCP, he had never encountered anyone who had risked his or her life to save the national flag, Atienza said in an interview.
“She is a very good example to the youth… I hope people will learn from her in giving the right kind of respect to our flag,” Atienza said.
Orphans both
Thinking about Lelis’ bravery gave her aunt, Edna Arcos Machete, goose bumps. “It was really very stormy that day,” recalled Machete, Lelis’ guardian since she was just a year old.
Orphaned at a very young age, Lelis and her brother have been living with their maternal grandmother and aunt.
Thanking God for giving her the strength to do what she did, Lelis also acknowledged the support she received from others, including Lurzano, for capturing her bravery on camera.
“If not for him, I would not be standing before you today,” she said to applause.
Many invitations
Her aunt was teary-eyed during her speech. She said it was the girl’s first time to set foot in Manila. “So she’s just happy to be here,” Machete said.
Lelis was also excited at having met show-biz celebrities Sam Milby, Maja Salvador and Angelica Panganiban, the aunt said.
Taking the long bus trip from home, Lelis arrived in Manila early Monday morning with her brother and with Machete, her uncle, and her cousin.
They are extending their stay in the capital until next week because of many invitations from other personalities, the aunt said.
RonnieR September 20th, 2011, 11:37 AM DepEd: HS students to have work experience under K+12
By Ryan Chua, ABS-CBN News
Posted at 09/20/2011 3:38 PM | Updated as of 09/20/2011 3:38 PM
MANILA, Philippines - High school students will have actual work experience under the Department of Education's (DepEd) proposed K+12 curriculum, Education Secretary Armin Luistro told senators on Tuesday.
Luistro said during a hearing on the DepEd's 2012 budget that the agency envisions an on-the-job training for students in Grades 11 and 12 in areas like applied entrepreneurship, where they will learn how to make a business plan and how to implement them.
"I think this is critical to the goals for the high school graduate," he said. "High school should also help them specialize."
Under the program, students will be given the chance to specialize in either academic, technical and vocational, or sports and arts courses.
Luistro believes the curriculum will make high school graduates employable.
Senate education committee chairman Edgardo Angara is concerned, however, that the K+12 curriculum may be "too crowded."
"The principal complaint we have with the current curriculum is that we put too many subjects into our curriculum to the extent that a Filipino university graduate has to take more than almost 20 subjects than his counterparts in the West," the senator said.
Luistro explained that while core subjects like English, Filipino, Science, and Math will be retained, the actual contents of the subjects have been scaled down to only the essentials.
"It's not a multiplication of topics," he said. "There are less topics, but there is greater competency."
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/20/11/deped-hs-students-have-work-experience-under-k12
MatudNilaBaby September 20th, 2011, 02:19 PM how can a k-12 curriculum be too crowded compared to old 1-10 curriculum? is the honorable senator out of his mind or he meant the other way around?
as a blue blooded cebuano and bisaya speaking, the filipino subject should be considered as an elective only for those students who want to learn it. im sure the people in the south especially cebu and the visayan islands and mindanao would prefer to study and use the mother tongue and english as the medium of instruction. the subject itself is already a burden to the non-tagalog speakers which is the same as filipino. providing an education that disadvantage others who speak a mother tongue is unfair and unjust.
bakasaurus September 20th, 2011, 03:07 PM Hahaha. I hope Angara was just misquoted and this was an erroneous news report because he sounds so dumb there. The K12 was meant to "decongest" our loaded curriculum (on a per year basis) and there he was fearing the opposite.
Sleepwalker September 20th, 2011, 03:11 PM ^^If Angara was misquoted, then our journalists are becoming idiots these days. Otherwise, then Angara is the idiot, representing our public officials.
Shame!
wino September 20th, 2011, 11:45 PM ^^ either or.. someone is an IDIOT :lol:
wino September 20th, 2011, 11:49 PM Sa Madrid napag-kamalan akong cubano. :lol:
Sa Rome napagkamalan ako ng isang Italianong cardinal na taga Guatemala. :D
ako napagkakamalang 19 years old dito sa Canada.. pwedeng pwede sa mga teenage babes. :cool: :devil: :devil:
Mercato September 21st, 2011, 02:29 AM ^^ Que cool. :cool: A mari usque ad mare
Ganyan talaga tayong mga matatangos an aquiline nose, magagaling sa math = mayabang + astig + tikalon + hambugero. :jk: :lol:
Askal82 September 21st, 2011, 03:40 AM DepEd: HS students to have work experience under K+12
By Ryan Chua, ABS-CBN News
Posted at 09/20/2011 3:38 PM | Updated as of 09/20/2011 3:38 PM
MANILA, Philippines - High school students will have actual work experience under the Department of Education's (DepEd) proposed K+12 curriculum, Education Secretary Armin Luistro told senators on Tuesday.
Luistro said during a hearing on the DepEd's 2012 budget that the agency envisions an on-the-job training for students in Grades 11 and 12 in areas like applied entrepreneurship, where they will learn how to make a business plan and how to implement them.
"I think this is critical to the goals for the high school graduate," he said. "High school should also help them specialize."
Under the program, students will be given the chance to specialize in either academic, technical and vocational, or sports and arts courses.
Luistro believes the curriculum will make high school graduates employable.
Senate education committee chairman Edgardo Angara is concerned, however, that the K+12 curriculum may be "too crowded."
"The principal complaint we have with the current curriculum is that we put too many subjects into our curriculum to the extent that a Filipino university graduate has to take more than almost 20 subjects than his counterparts in the West," the senator said.
Luistro explained that while core subjects like English, Filipino, Science, and Math will be retained, the actual contents of the subjects have been scaled down to only the essentials.
"It's not a multiplication of topics," he said. "There are less topics, but there is greater competency."
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/20/11/deped-hs-students-have-work-experience-under-k12
The system needs to 'loosen' up a bit. After the requirements are met (usually at the end of junior year (third yr. hs), they are free to get into programs they want to specialize in so they won't get culture shocked by the time they get to college.
In New York State for example, once you met the Regent's requirements and pass them at the end of the year ( basic science, math, english, etc..), high school students are given options by their guidance counselors to choose their fields of study depending on what is offered by the school. If you're into arts, you'll take a lot of art classes on the last remaining 2 years of your high school. If you're into drafting and pre engineering, you'll proceed to advanced math and basic calculus. If you're into business, you'll take some business subjects materials. If you're into science, you'll take a lot of advanced science courses of your interest - physics, chemistry, biology, etc..
Askal82 September 21st, 2011, 03:53 AM how can a k-12 curriculum be too crowded compared to old 1-10 curriculum? is the honorable senator out of his mind or he meant the other way around?
as a blue blooded cebuano and bisaya speaking, the filipino subject should be considered as an elective only for those students who want to learn it. im sure the people in the south especially cebu and the visayan islands and mindanao would prefer to study and use the mother tongue and english as the medium of instruction. the subject itself is already a burden to the non-tagalog speakers which is the same as filipino. providing an education that disadvantage others who speak a mother tongue is unfair and unjust.
I think in the new system, the subject Filipino languages should be studied with different options to choose from (depending on the school) other than the mother tongue and treated like foreign language studies.
MatudNilaBaby September 21st, 2011, 04:17 AM I think in the new system, the subject Filipino languages should be studied with different options to choose from (depending on the school) other than the mother tongue and treated like foreign language studies.
if the mother tongue is used for the bisaya speaking regions then we dont have to resort into translating from tagalog to bisaya which is time consuming on our part but easy access to students speaking tagalog. we all know down under that the filipino language espoused by ched is purely tagalog. its a matter of equity in learning. why is it ok to disadvantage the non tagalog speaking students to learn filipino but it is not ok to disadvantage the tagalog speaking students to learn other languages aside from their own. not unless we can come up with a truly filipino language that is approved by everybody in the country only we can adapt that language in school. but up to now there is no such thing and everything is just experimental to the detriment of those non tagalog speaking students.
Ady001 September 21st, 2011, 05:02 AM A startling article from Yahoo! Singapore:
‘A degree is nice, but we need something else’
By Seah Chiang Nee | SingaporeScene – Mon, Sep 19, 2011
In the face of a changed labour market, Singapore may have decided to keep the local university population from increasing beyond current levels.
The more cautious approach to higher education emerged from private talks that a senior education ministry official had with a U.S. diplomat several years ago, according to WikiLeaks.
No formal announcement has been made, but the remarks quickly set off a buff of excitement among Singaporeans, who worship higher education as a god of success.
The official was quoted as telling the diplomat that the government did not plan to encourage more students to go for university studies.
The campus enrolment rate would be maintained around 20 per cent to 25 per cent of total Singapore students. The reason, she added, was the labour market did not need everyone to get a degree.
While political leaders have denied other WikiLeaks allegations, no one has commented on this subject.
Not playing a numbers game
Recently, Education Minister Heng Swee Keat said, in future, university planning could not "be a numbers game alone" and that "it has to be a strategic approach, responding to the needs of the economy".
The revelation has raised public speculation, including one that it is cheaper and faster to bring in trained foreigners en masse than to produce them at home.
Given past records, this is unlikely to be the whole truth. The government has always given priority to developing Singaporeans to play an economic role.
But such talk persists. "The number of local students is being reduced because foreign professionals are available at lower salaries," said a former IT engineer who is now doing jobs on an ad hoc basis.
Adding to the unhappiness is the presence of foreign students, who make up roughly 20 per cent of students in local campuses.
This new move is seen in some quarters as a new quota of sorts.
Downsizing ambition
Some of the harsher critics call the limitation a downsizing of the national ambition, or at least of the individual dream.
To economists, however, there are wider fundamental reasons for it. The demise of the manufacturing era has significantly altered the job market.
Many of the newly-created jobs today are in services that do not require formal four-year university training. "A degree is nice to have, but we need something else," is a regular employer comment.
For example, the opening of the two resorts required some graduates to be retrained as casino dealers and roulette operators.
In the past decade, thousands of retrenched middle-aged professionals have become property or insurance agents. Others are driving taxis.
This has evidently made the government worried about producing more graduates that the market does not need, especially with the global economy turning dismal.
A different approach
If the WikiLeaks report is accurate, Singapore seems to be breaking ranks with countries whose universities keep churning out masses of students for jobs that often do not exist.
Reuters reported this week that China's colleges are pushing out graduates in numbers far exceeding demand.
"A decade-long expansion in university capacity has created distortions in the job market," the news agency said. "China needs to work on the imbalances."
Singapore's tale is different. This is a smaller entity where numbers are easier to manipulate.
The universities here produced some 12,000 graduates in 2007 — or 25 per cent of all students — below Japan's 50 per cent. But this is only half the story.
According to Unesco, a further 18,000 Singaporeans were studying in foreign universities that year — half of them in Australia. In one year, some 4,000 enlist in US universities.
Poor hardest hit
Social commentator Lucky Tan said any university cutback would work against lower-income Singaporeans who could not afford to study abroad.
The WikiLeaks story showed the government was unable to fulfil its pledge to develop every Singaporean to his full potential.
Some Singaporeans are, however, supportive of being cautious. "It is important to maintain a balanced, orderly labour market for the sake of social order," said one writer.
Society does not only need graduates, she said. Who is going to work as a mechanic? Or cook?
In an observation on Asia's chaotic past, former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew spoke of the dangers of educating hordes of graduates and being unable to provide them jobs.
He noticed that many unemployed graduates often ended up roaming the streets, making violent revolution.
In a recent related comment, Lee remarked that Singaporeans were not getting smarter, only better educated.
Willingness to sacrifice
The ruling People's Action Party is not yet facing such a crucial test, and how sensitively it can handle public grouses — especially on jobs and education — will decide its future.
More than anyone, he knows his people's readiness to sacrifice for their children's education.
Many families are prepared to set a huge monthly budget to pay fees to private tutors to give their children the edge in exams to make it to university.
Just three months ago, a father angrily wrote how he had to sell off his prized house to finance his son to study medicine in Britain because he was rejected for a place in Singapore.
This was despite scoring 4 "A"s and a Special Paper in his A-Level examinations.
During a dinner gathering of several families at our house a hot subject surpassed all others among the wives: their children's education, what to study and which country to study in.
These are upper middle-class earners, who see their children's future depending on getting a good university degree — the higher the better.
I wonder how they will react to the government move to discourage them to enrol for one.
A former Reuters correspondent and newspaper editor, the writer is now a freelance columnist writing on general trends in Singapore. This post first appeared on his blog www.littlespeck.com on 17 September 2011.
Link here (http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/degree-nice-something-else-062420741.html;_ylt=AhBEfsTRCwoZx6aR9En5UiX9Vsd_;_ylu=X3oDMTR0ZW9jOG5mBGNjb2RlA2N0LmMEbWl0A01vc3QgUG9wdWxhciBBcnRpY2xlcwRwa2cDMDVhMzYwNTItY2FmMS0zNDg3LWI4YjItZWRjMTc4MTliY2ExBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJMaXN0TWl4ZWRNb3N0UG9wdWxhckNBBHZlcgNiMWUzYTViYy1lMjg5LTExZTAtYjZlMS1iZjFmYTIzOTZlNjI-;_ylg=X3oDMTJwMDVkdmM0BGludGwDc2cEbGFuZwNlbi1zZwRwc3RhaWQDMDAyZWRhZDAtYjg0Zi0zYWNhLWJiMTMtZjVhNjE0ZDA2Mzk0BHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdlBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3)
Askal82 September 21st, 2011, 05:34 AM if the mother tongue is used for the bisaya speaking regions then we dont have to resort into translating from tagalog to bisaya which is time consuming on our part but easy access to students speaking tagalog. we all know down under that the filipino language espoused by ched is purely tagalog. its a matter of equity in learning. why is it ok to disadvantage the non tagalog speaking students to learn filipino but it is not ok to disadvantage the tagalog speaking students to learn other languages aside from their own. not unless we can come up with a truly filipino language that is approved by everybody in the country only we can adapt that language in school. but up to now there is no such thing and everything is just experimental to the detriment of those non tagalog speaking students.
If you read my post, the Filipino languages required to learn will be treated as a foreign language subject. I am supportive of using your native languages as a Filipino subject in your respective provinces but then, they are required to learn Filipino languages other than their own. The objective is to make an average Filipino to be fluent in at least 3 languages (2 of the natives ones + English) and appreciate the ethno-cultural diversity in the country.
I actually like the idea of dropping national and official languages altogether. It's ironic that the major Anglophone (US, UK, Australia, etc.) countries does not have official and national languages required by their laws for political reasons (taking account of the minorities in their own countries) English is however, considered de-facto (not de jure) official languages in these countries. Let the provinces decide what language to use but I think English would still remain as the de-facto language in the Philippines.
RonnieR September 21st, 2011, 06:06 AM If you read my post, the Filipino languages required to learn will be treated as a foreign language subject. I am supportive of using your native languages as a Filipino subject in your respective provinces but then, they are required to learn Filipino languages other than their own. The objective is to make an average Filipino to be fluent in at least 3 languages (2 of the natives ones + English) and appreciate the ethno-cultural diversity in the country.
I actually like the idea of dropping national and official languages altogether. It's ironic that the major Anglophone (US, UK, Australia, etc.) countries does not have official and national languages required by their laws for political reasons (taking account of the minorities in their own countries) English is however, considered de-facto (not de jure) official languages in these countries. Let the provinces decide what language to use but I think English would still remain as the de-facto language in the Philippines.
if the mother tongue is used for the bisaya speaking regions then we dont have to resort into translating from tagalog to bisaya which is time consuming on our part but easy access to students speaking tagalog. we all know down under that the filipino language espoused by ched is purely tagalog. its a matter of equity in learning. why is it ok to disadvantage the non tagalog speaking students to learn filipino but it is not ok to disadvantage the tagalog speaking students to learn other languages aside from their own. not unless we can come up with a truly filipino language that is approved by everybody in the country only we can adapt that language in school. but up to now there is no such thing and everything is just experimental to the detriment of those non tagalog speaking students.
I think in the new system, the subject Filipino languages should be studied with different options to choose from (depending on the school) other than the mother tongue and treated like foreign language studies.
The issue that has been hounding for so long.....the use of Filipino or Tagalog as the national language. That's why, the government is correct to use English as the medium of instruction and it is the language for commerce and judiciary.
RonnieR September 21st, 2011, 07:03 AM Even in "Not So Good News" section, the issue on language is a hot topic. :ohno:
Welcome to my world. :bash:
If you think that's hard, how about here in the Visayan-speaking regions?
Not only that we have to learn English, but also Tagalog too! Isn't that great?
I speak bisaya in my school (even though speaking anything that is not English is heavily discourage), I would fluently speak bisaya to everyone I talk to. It's a "fuck you" to all the "socialites" in my class who only speaks Tagalog and thinks they are high above everyone who isn't "social" like them.
I know, but many those bashing him do not see the "otherside" of the issue -- the hierarchy among non Tagalog language vs Tagalog.
If the non-Tagalogs will assert that they learn their native language and literature, they are labeled as "regionalistic, divisive" yet "speaking" Tagalog is "nationalistic".
There is also the pretension that Filipino is "different" from Tagalog than Filipino and Tagalog need to be translated to each other (I remember a politician saying that!)
Double standards or are people merely lashing out on English to hide the hierarchy among local languages?
And amid globalization, it is unfathomable that the Philippines hardly offers foreign and other native languages as elective in HS and college? We're so fixated with the English vs Tagalog debate. Why not embrace as many languages?
well.. I think the article appeared discriminating on the way he described that English is the language of the learned.... like he is implying that Filipinos who are not good in English are not learned people or are second class citizens who can only be tinderas, yayas or manongs...
but then again, he has some good insights if you read his article with a grain of salt, like for schools for the priviledge should have Filipino become the language of instruction (which I think is right now in public schools) to give students importance for the language and simply make English the secondary language... and for our local setup that Filipinos should be used in different fields like the court rooms, board rooms, etc... specially if the company is Filipino and specially if this is in government...
it would be great actually to see the Filipino language become one of the most important languages in the world like English, Chinese, Japanese, and may be French when in comes to commerce and simply interest for linguistics...
I think this is not going to happen in our generation unless Filipino or Tagalog language is wholeheartedly accepted and spoken by ALL Filipinos in esp. in Visayas and Mindanao.
Even for Filipinos, there are hardly good references as to Tagalog books. Worse is, they are not teaching Tagalog grammar how it's supposed to be taught that is why hardly any Filipinos can teach the grammar rules (esp the focus) to non-Filipinos. Tagalog grammar is more than mag, nag, im, um....
Id put the blame on the government. Why? Because for most part:
1. they are deceiving the public that Filipino is different from Tagalog, rather than accepting that by linguistic definition, one is just a subset of the other
2. they failed to make the language more adaptable to evolving and new terms. What the government has done is create and promote words that are no longer in use that even native Tagalog speakers would not remember or appreciate
3. they promoted that languages other than Tagalog are a manifestation of "regionalism" rather than the Philippines' cultural diversity
If there is one thing good about GMA, she at least multilingual when it comes to regional languages. When in Zambaonga, she spoke Chavacano, when in the North, she spoke Ilocano. When she was in Chile, she spoke Spanish
Not many president or even any politician is willing to learn other languages.
Basically, we're stuck with English and Tagalog. Worse is, there are people who want to eliminate English. Instead of getting Filipinos immersed in languages (local and international), we limit ourselves to much to two or one.
oooh, don't get me started on this. :D there was in fact a World War a coupla years ago across quite a few SSC Threads which had some locked down. To be fair, 19th century Tagalog was quite beautiful and its clear manifestations were the elegant poems and kundimans of yore.
NVM the new forgettable Kris Aquino Taglish.But Cebuano and the other triplets Waray & Ylonggo are not "sozy" languages. :D :D :D
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We are not Sozy, but we are Royalty. These are the languages of forgotten Ancient Royalty. We must never forget that we are descendants of the Empire of Resplendant Victory ~ Sri Vijaya. :yes: bisa'g unsaon, pusyon bisaya kita. :D
It's not really about being "sozy", it about the "socialites" thinking they are high above others just because they are not speaking the native language. And the ones who came to my city who looks down at my people just because we speak bisaya and are proud of it, they are the ones that should adapt to us. Afterall, we are all Filipinos.
Speaking of Filipino, should bisaya (and other triplets) be integrated to the "Filipino" language? I think it's unfair that Filipino is 90% Tagalog, when Visaya is also the most spoken language in the country. But I guess it's too late for that. :\
its never too late to seek for equal treatment and use of the different filipino languages especially for bisaya being one of the dominant languages in the country. in this day and age, its high time that we revise the national language of our country that allows more freedom for the use of other languages. we might as well revert back to english as the national language.
as we all noticed, media has changed the way they broadcast at the regional level. they now have tv programs that used their own language as the medium especially in the news information category. the print media is still predominantly english although the sunstar daily news has bisaya edition balita for those who prefer to read news in their local language.
i for one receive my online philippine news in cebuano/bisaya edition from sunstar daily news, the freeman or cebu daily news. for tv that promotes local programming, i watch the cebu catholic television network (cctn tv channel 47), real cebu telivision (rctv) and sugbo tv from the province of cebu. i rarely watch gma 7 anymore as i have gotten used to hearing my mother tongue used in the media.
Manila-X September 23rd, 2011, 04:21 AM The fetish for global rankings
By: Raul C. Pangalangan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
9:59 pm | Thursday, September 22nd, 2011
http://opinion.inquirer.net/12625/the-fetish-for-global-rankings
In their heart of hearts, Filipinos actually rank universities according to the prowess of their basketball teams, and not just the teams’ performance but with special attention to the design of the teams’ uniforms. Sadly, that doesn’t even include all the other wonderful sports teams, but just the one sport that corners the bulk of every school’s athletic budget.
That is why, in a sense, the global ranking of universities is the serious Filipino’s revenge against the barbarians. It is his way of saying to his heathen brethren that there’s actually another way of looking at universities. That in schools, there’s something else going on and it’s called learning. It’s done by people called teachers, who work together with typically younger people called students. Global rankings are the last desperate gasp of the dying Filipino thinker before he drowns in the sea of ignorance.
And that is why the reading and writing Filipino public understandably panics each time we rank low in these ratings. We realize how little we have invested in the next generation of Filipinos. But I would hold back on the agonizing and instead count our strengths. It’s actually amazing how our universities have thrived despite our ever-precarious economy and perennially corrupted politics.
The most recent 2011-2012 survey by the Quacquarelli Symonds (QS) group is just one of the many university ranking systems administered in the world. Each ranking system scores the schools on a different set of criteria.
For example, the QS criteria rely on the following: peer review (40 percent), review by graduate recruiters (10 percent), number of citations per staff member (20 percent), staff-to-student ratio (20 percent), percentage of overseas staff (5 percent), percentage of overseas students (5 percent).
The first two criteria are actually very subjective. I am not saying that subjectivity itself makes them unreliable, but let us not read too much into “peer review” and “review by graduate recruiters.” The first refers to how fellow academics regard the standing of local schools. Given the large pool of comparators spread all over the world, the best way for a school to project its academic presence is through international publications, which can actually be measured by the third criterion—“number of citations per staff member”—which is based on publications by the school’s faculty. Yet peer review which is highly subjective gets a heavy weight at 40 percent, while cited publications which is less so gets half that weight at 20 percent.
Even worse for “review by graduate recruiters,” which refers to the impression held by non-academics in the employment market. It is based on the marketable skills taught by the schools and desired by employers. The irony is that the loftier the academic mission of the school, the less marketable its skills training. Philosophy, the sciences and humanities are the indispensable core of a university. (Princeton University doesn’t have a law school. Does that make it any less a university?) Hereabouts, where do you think job recruiters rush to? To the philosophy department or to business administration?
I still recall a decade ago when Filipinos went into a fit after the now defunct Asiaweek magazine’s survey of Asian universities gave local universities low rankings. Yet looking at their criteria, they included the size of the school’s endowment and the salaries of its faculty. Such criteria obviously disfavored Philippine schools which funded themselves on the basis of either annual government handouts or student tuition. Moreover, faculty salaries are low due to constraints, both economic (not enough money) and cultural (not enough appreciation for teachers).
There’s actually another test that has been cited by even the New York Times that, had it been applied to the Philippines, would have given us more credit. The Shanghai Jiao Tung University (SJTU) Ranking System was developed on the principle that a great university is a great research university. It relies on academic awards and honors received by faculty, and citations of faculty writing in prestigious publications.
Contrast that to the QS study, which requires data about the number of students, faculty, etc. It is unclear how the QS study acquired their data. Just to take one item, some professors teach at various universities in Manila. To which school did QS attribute their publications? On the other hand, the SJTU ranking relies on faculty productivity that is available online from independent sources.
The chancellor of UP Diliman is Caesar Saloma, himself an internationally published physicist. He has closely monitored these university ranking surveys, including the QS study, to keep Diliman on its toes and improve as an academic institution. Diliman, as the flagship campus of the national university, is duty-bound to support fields that are otherwise left unstudied, a case of the Filipino nation living an “unexamined life.” For instance, how would the surveys appreciate the fact that UP has a pioneering institute of archaeology? And even more recently, a graduate program in medical anthropology?
At the same time, the challenge to the Commission on Higher Education is to keep watch over the proliferation of schools calling themselves “universities.” There are several push factors. One, the politicians, who wish to spiffy up the names of their local colleges. Two, the bureaucracy, which gives incentives for mere teaching colleges to call themselves universities. And three, the burgeoning market of OFW-funded students willing and able to enroll, a case of demand rising up to meet supply. The irony is that power and markets are the antithesis of academia, and it shows how little we appreciate the life of the mind.
red_jasper September 25th, 2011, 10:11 AM UP graduates dominate board exam for chemists (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=730678&publicationSubCategoryId=63)
By Sheila Crisostomo (The Philippine Star) Updated September 25, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (10)
MANILA, Philippines - More than half of those who took the licensure examination for chemists this month passed the test, the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) said yesterday.
The PRC said out of 630 who took the board exam administered by the commission’s Board of Chemistry, 331 passed.
Eight of those in the top 10 came from the University of the Philippines (UP) in Manila, Diliman and Los Baños, according to the PRC.
UP-Diliman was named the “top performing school” with passing rate of 90.28 percent as 65 of the 72 examinees from the school passed the board exam.
Paul Gerald Sanchez of UP-Manila led the roster of successful examinees with 91.75 percent rating. He was followed by Corrina Azarcon and Mark Daben Libardo, both of UP-Diliman, with 91 percent.
Ranking third was Julius Victorius Saluria, of UP-Diliman, with 90.50 percent, followed by Kevin Elissandro Gumabon, UP-Manila, 90.25 percent; Danette Monzon, UP-Manila, 90 percent; Laurenzo Alba, De la Salle University-Manila, 89.75 percent; Valerie Christie Miclat, Ateneo de Manila-Quezon City, 89 percent; and Darwin Caca Gomez, Eastern Visayas State University-Tacloban and John Rafael Granada, Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila, both garnering 88.25 percent rating.
Completing the top 10 list were Henson Yu, of ADMU-Q.C., and Nesty Margarretta Tumbaga, of UP-Diliman, both with 88 percent; and Kevinilo Marquez, of UP-Los Baños, and Romel Pagkalinawan, of the Polytechnic University of the Philippines-Main-Sta. Mesa, both with 87.50 percent.
For the complete list of successful examinees, log on to www.philstar.com.
red_jasper September 25th, 2011, 10:15 AM P330-M released for science equipment (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/335485/p330m-released-science-equipment)
By INA HERNANDO-MALIPOT
September 24, 2011, 6:40pm
MANILA, Philippines — The Department of Education (DepEd) has released some P330 million in producing science equipment which was delivered to 435 public secondary high schools nationwide.
DepEd — through its National Science Teaching and Instrumentation Center (NSTIC) — will also hold a national consultative conference on the use of science equipment in Cebu City to prepare teachers on the proper handling and maintenance of the equipment.
Education Secretary Armin Luistro said that the NSTIC, together with Regional Science Supervisors and BSE representatives, will review and finalize the experiment and repair and maintenance manuals which will be used for the subsequent regional training workshops set to start in October to cover the country’s 17 regions. NSTIC and the NSTIC-trained regional trainors will train one science teacher per science subject area (Integrated Science, Biology, Chemistry, Physics) in each recipient school.
“The training is very important for the science teachers to master the use and application of the new science equipment as well as the maintenance procedures to ensure long-term use of these equipment,” Luistro added.
A stronger science and technology curriculum in basic education is in the ten-point education agenda of President Aquino aimed at producing graduates who are geared towards a science and technology-driven economy. (Ina Hernando-Malipot)
Manila-X September 26th, 2011, 07:11 AM ‘The greatest generation’
By: Alex Lacson
Philippine Daily Inquirer
3:09 am | Monday, September 26th, 2011
http://opinion.inquirer.net/12845/the-greatest-generation
This phrase was first used to refer to the millions of young Americans who volunteered to fight during World War II. More than half a million young American soldiers died in the battlefields of Europe, Hawaii, Japan and, yes, our Philippines. Theirs was called “the greatest generation” because they fought not only for the liberty of America but for the freedom of the world.
This phrase has made me wonder—when and how do we bring about the greatest generation of Filipinos in our history?
Our country is also at war today, a debilitating war against poverty. Around 26 million of our people go to sleep hungry every night, around 60 percent or 16 million of whom are children who are too young and too innocent to fend or fight for themselves.
How do we move our government leaders and other public servants so they may give their best and work very hard every day until they find the solution to our nation’s ills?
How do we persuade our oligarchy and business leaders so they would think first of creating jobs for our people and spreading prosperity in our society, instead of building their wealth and business empires here and abroad?
How do we inspire our youth today so their generation would become the most studious and the most hardworking, and yet the most conscientious of all generations so that, in their time, they would create wealth not only for themselves but also for the many who have none in our society?
How do we rouse our people to become the best that the Filipino can ever be, to become the most honest and patriotic generation of Filipinos of all time, those who would love our people more than any other generation in the past?
But who will make the call? Who will challenge our people?
To bring out such a generation in our history, it is a function of two things.
First, it is a function of leadership, which should set the example in terms of discipline and hard work, in terms of patriotism and sacrifice. And second, it is a function of education, especially the education of our youth and citizens.
Truly, President Aquino’s call to fight “utak wang-wang” or the culture of abuse is great and laudable. But such call should not only remain in the government sector, it should be cascaded down to every level of our society, especially to the levels of our youth, teachers and parents. An effective operationalization of such call must be put in place immediately.
One thing that could be done is to make a serious effort to promote a “culture of honor” in our society. Perhaps, we can encourage every school in our country, from elementary to college, to adopt an Honor Code, even a simple one like—“The Filipino is a person of honor. We, the youth, do not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate those who do. Let the world know the Filipino by this.” To help students live it, programs could be created around it.
And to stress its importance, perhaps a huge stone marker, where such Honor Code is inscribed, could be put at the entrance or auditorium of the school. The great schools abroad have a long tradition of “honor systems.” Our schools should have no less. The biggest problems in our government today and in the past—graft and corruption, cheating during elections, lying under oath—are all about honor, or the lack of it.
The essence of education must be emphasized early and clearly, that is, for our youth to know what is right from wrong and what is good from bad; and for our youth to prefer the right and the good.
Another thing that could be done is to promote a “culture of brotherhood and nationhood” among our people. This can be done by defining and adopting a clear cultural anchor for our people. Great countries in history have a cultural identity or anchor. Their people know who they are under the sun. Their cultural anchor becomes their source of strength in this vast world of many cultures.
What about us? What is the cultural anchor of the Filipino?
Perhaps it should be “KaBayanihan”—which is anchored on Kapatiran and Bayanihan, which literally mean Brotherhood and Community Heroism. Kapatiran and Bayanihan are two old and beautiful traits of the Filipino. These are universal values that would help make a better world for all humanity, regardless of race or religion.
KaBayanihan could and should bring out the kapatid and the bayani in every Filipino, even through small acts of patriotism or heroism. It captures the essence of who the real Filipino is, of what we truly are as a people.
Perhaps KaBayanihan will help draw out the greatest generation of Filipinos in our history.
It is important for our youth to believe in the greatness of the Filipino and in the beauty of our country, so they would grow up someday with so much faith in the Filipino, with so much faith in themselves as a people.
It is crucial for our people, especially our youth, to believe that despite our diversity, we are but one people, one nation, one family.
Truly, the education of the youth is one of the most important things there is in the life of a nation.
Our leadership and education today must aim to draw out the greatest generation of Filipinos from ourselves.
wesunsled September 27th, 2011, 06:47 AM the question of k + 12 vs 1-10 just like la salle system vs ateneo system, which is better and which is good? what was the difference in studying la salle k+12 and ateneo 1-10?
13 years of connections vs 10 years of jesuit traditions?
MatudNilaBaby September 27th, 2011, 07:42 AM the question of k + 12 vs 1-10 just like la salle system vs ateneo system, which is better and which is good? what was the difference in studying la salle k+12 and ateneo 1-10?
13 years of connections vs 10 years of jesuit traditions?
its sad to say that the above schools you mention are still on the k-10 curriculum. if youre talking about the international schools in the country, then they adopt a k-12 curriculum which is either international, british or american systems of education such as the more prominent institutions: international school manila, brent international school, cebu international school and many more. unfortunately, non of our universities are using the k-12 curriculum yet. i heard some schools such as the st. theresas college in cebu have a grade 7th before you proceed to a four year high school.
RonnieR September 27th, 2011, 08:28 AM its sad to say that the above schools you mention are still on the k-10 curriculum. if youre talking about the international schools in the country, then they adopt a k-12 curriculum which is either international, british or american systems of education such as the more prominent institutions: international school manila, brent international school, cebu international school and many more. unfortunately, non of our universities are using the k-12 curriculum yet. i heard some schools such as the st. theresas college in cebu have a grade 7th before you proceed to a four year high school.
In Manila, Xavier School (Ateneo), Beacon School, Assumption College San Lorenzo Makati, Claret School Quezon City, among others, have Grade 7 in the elementary curriculum.
Mercato September 27th, 2011, 08:36 AM the question of k + 12 vs 1-10 just like la salle system vs ateneo system, which is better and which is good? what was the difference in studying la salle k+12 and ateneo 1-10?
13 years of connections vs 10 years of jesuit traditions?
:lol: :lol: hmm if I may, a better term for traditions would be excellence ;)
MatudNilaBaby September 27th, 2011, 11:51 AM In Manila, Xavier School (Ateneo), Beacon School, Assumption College San Lorenzo Makati, Claret School Quezon City, among others, have Grade 7 in the elementary curriculum.
beacon school is an international school established in 2001 and the rest are schools that added a 7th grade making their curriculum k-11 only giving their graduates some edge over high school graduates with a k-10 curriculum.
RonnieR September 27th, 2011, 12:22 PM beacon school is an international school established in 2001 and the rest are schools that added a 7th grade making their curriculum k-11 only giving their graduates some edge over high school graduates with a k-10 curriculum.
Yes, I know. I passed by this Beacon school few times. There are other local schools with Grade 7. Anyway, DEPED is implementing the K12 program, no more discussion. Thanks.
Nabartek September 27th, 2011, 06:20 PM masyadong convoluted ang Philippine education system. So many courses that are 'crammed' kaya nagkakaless focus ang students. Kung idistribute yung courses in 12 years para masmaraming time mag-aral at maituro ang subject matter.
One more thing: ibalik ang Hiraya Manawari, Bayani, Mathinik, Sineskwela, ATBP sa ere! Bring back the kid friendly shows for educational supplement
Ady001 September 28th, 2011, 09:40 AM ^^ Actually that's one of the reasons why the Bologna Accord should be taken seriously. As my friend said (a year ago) most Filipino schools rely mostly in rote memorization and not much in application.
RonnieR September 29th, 2011, 05:54 AM http://www.ateneoconfucius.com/MainPageParts/RightPanel/Images/AdMU.gif
About AdMU Confucius Institute
The government of the People's Republic of China, through the Office of Chinese Language Council International (Hanban), has established Confucius Institutes around the world for the promotion of Chinese language and culture.
Inaugurated in October 2006, the Confucius Institute (CI) at the Ateneo de Manila University (AdMU) is the first such institute established in the Philippines. It aims to promote Chinese language, culture, and knowledge of contemporary China in Philippine mainstream society.
As a nonprofit institute, it offers Mandarin language courses at low cost in various parts of Metro Manila, as well as activities to promote Chinese culture.
On 25 September 2010, the Institute moved to its new home at the 6th floor of the Ateneo Professional Schools in Salcedo Village, Makati City. The place, all of 1000 square meters, houses classrooms, consultations rooms, a Chinese culture experience center, and a reading room.
http://www.ateneoconfucius.com/
Askal82 September 29th, 2011, 05:59 AM ^^ Actually that's one of the reasons why the Bologna Accord should be taken seriously. As my friend said (a year ago) most Filipino schools rely mostly in rote memorization and not much in application.
and especially critical thinking/reasoning skills.
RonnieR September 29th, 2011, 06:01 AM CHINESE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL MANILA
http://philproperty.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/chineseinternationalschool.jpg
http://www.cismanila.org/index.php?pg=overview
Manila-X September 29th, 2011, 06:25 AM I often see CIS when passing through Mckinley Hill. I'm curious about the school's demographics.
Manila-X September 29th, 2011, 06:26 AM EDITORIAL - Investing in education
(The Philippine Star) Updated September 29, 2011 12:00 AM
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=732013&publicationSubCategoryId=64
This week, members of the judiciary staged “black Monday” to protest budget cuts, grumbling about judicial independence. But they’re not the only ones unhappy with their funding. In the health sector, government health professionals have registered their protest against low salaries by leaving the country in droves for better paying jobs overseas. Students of state colleges and universities have been staging mass protests, with “planking” the latest favored mode, against the inadequate budget of SCUs. The students surely have the sympathy of public school teachers, who periodically stage various types of mass protests against their low salaries.
Cops, soldiers, clerks – it’s rare to find a government worker satisfied with his pay. Most of the complaints are valid. The problem is addressing them and prioritizing the needs. Which sector should get more? After debt payments, education gets the largest chunk of the annual national appropriation. But even that lion’s share is never enough to meet the needs of SCUs, which must compete for funding with public elementary and high schools.
The University of the Philippines can turn to the private sector, particularly to its numerous alumni who have risen to prominence, for endowments to augment its budget. This is done extensively in other countries such as the United States. But this kind of fund-raising may not be as easy for certain SCUs, and they may need more direct assistance from the government.
The nation clearly needs to invest so much more in public education. Even education officials have acknowledged the deterioration in the overall quality of Philippine education, which has adversely affected all aspects of national life. It is no coincidence that other Asian countries that have invested heavily in educating their people have sprinted past the Philippines in economic progress and other aspects of human development. With many other sectors crying out for more funding, however, it would do no harm for state colleges and universities to innovate ways of generating their own additional funds.
RonnieR September 29th, 2011, 07:29 AM I often see CIS when passing through Mckinley Hill. I'm curious about the school's demographics.
They follow the K12 program. According to my friend who is connected there, their students are mixed with overseas Chinese but mostly local Chinese.
Manila-X September 29th, 2011, 08:15 AM They follow the K12 program. According to my friend who is connected there, their students are mixed with overseas Chinese but mostly local Chinese.
It is an alternative to most Chinese schools in this country. Plus the education here is more that of international schools.
OtAkAw September 29th, 2011, 12:29 PM Here's an example of a government who knows how to think ahead:
In Brazil, a Plan to Send Students to World's Top Colleges
By ANDREW DOWNIE / SÃO PAULO | Time.com – Wed, Sep 21, 2011
With their economy booming, their currency at a level that makes even London prices seem cheap and their foreign policy one of the world's most ambitious (President Dilma Rousseff this week will to be the first woman ever to open debate at the U.N. General Assembly), Brazilians have gotten used to going abroad for tourism, business, shopping and diplomacy. Now their students are finally getting an incentive to see the world, thanks to a major government program that aims to award 75,000 scholarships to attend the world's top universities. Available only to Brazilians studying subjects of strategic national importance, like engineering, they reflect "an effort by the government to take a quantum leap in the formation of a scientific and technological elite," says Aloizio Mercadante, Brazil's Science and Technology Minister.
That's a long-overdue agenda, not just in Brazil but all of Latin America. During the 2009–10 academic year, for example, Brazil, a nation of almost 200 million people, had fewer than 9,000 students at U.S. universities; China, by contrast, had more than 127,000, India 100,000 and South Korea 72,000. That's a big reason that more than a third of the world's research and development takes place in Asia today while less than 3% of it goes on in Latin America. As a result, countries across the region are working to get more of their best and brightest into top-flight institutions like Harvard, Stanford, Oxford and the Sorbonne. Ecuador last month announced its largest scholarship program yet, hoping to send more than 1,000 students overseas, while Colombia in 2011 will place more people abroad than in the past 18 years combined. Chile is expanding its own program to offer 30,000 scholarships by 2018, and even tiny El Salvador now has a study-abroad project.
Brazil's effort, dubbed Science Without Borders, involves the federal Agency for Support and Evaluation of Graduate Education (CAPES), which will fund 40,000 scholarships, and the National Council for Scientific and Technological Development, which will fund 35,000. The country's private sector is expected to bankroll another 25,000. "It's an ambitious plan," says Denise Neddermeyer, CAPES' international-affairs director. "But this cannot be achieved alone - it requires increased international collaborative effort."
That was a major impetus for U.S. President Barack Obama's visit to the South American giant last spring. He and Rousseff agreed to work more closely on vital education issues, student exchanges and increased R&D cooperation, especially in what are known as the STEM fields of science, technology, engineering and math. U.S. colleges and universities as a result are set to enroll half of Science Without Borders' grant winners, who will pursue studies in engineering, hard science, math, energy, sustainable development, the environment, biotechnology and health.
The increased scholarship investment is possible because Latin American nations are flush with cash from the global commodities boom of the past decade - much of which has been driven by China's voracious demand for everything from oil to steel to soybeans. At the same time, their economies have largely avoided contagion from the economic collapse in Europe and the U.S. It's no coincidence that Brazil, the world's biggest producer of iron ore, soy beans, sugar and beef, and Chile, the biggest exporter of copper, are offering the largest number of grants - or that Paraguay and Peru, which grew 15.3% and 8.8% respectively last year, are among the new study-abroad investors.
Experts back the scholarships plan, but they warn that governments have to take additional steps to reap the full benefits. One potential obstacle is foreign-language proficiency. (Brazil has acknowledged this issue and is considering expanding grants to include training.) Another is ensuring that students return home to apply and share their knowledge. And the student traffic shouldn't be just one-way: "This should be part of a broader program, and that means bringing in students from outside and having a true exchange," says Geraldo Nunes, coordinator of international agreements at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro. "Right now [Brazilian universities] don't have the means or infrastructure to do that."
That raises yet another key issue: improving primary, secondary and higher education in Latin America. Students in countries like Brazil continue to score at the bottom of international math, science and reading tests; and their universities, still too often steeped in the archaic pedagogy of the region's colonial era, produce far too many psychology majors and too few engineers. That reality makes it harder for Latin American economies to move from commodities to computers, from soybeans to solar panels. Brazil, for example, has made significant strides lately in areas like aerospace, evidenced by its world-class regional jet corporation, Embraer. But the region is still years, if not decades, behind Asian tigers like South Korea.
Still, the new trend is a welcome if fledgling sign that Latin American governments are giving new priority to education - to finally "advancing sustainably toward innovation, competitiveness and business leadership in strategic sectors," says Mercadante, the Brazilian Science Minister. With all that cash in hand, now is the time.
http://news.yahoo.com/brazil-plan-send-students-worlds-top-colleges-091006495.html
*I don't have anything against Philippine universities because I came from one but being educated at Harvard, Yale or Cambridge makes a big big difference.
RonnieR October 1st, 2011, 04:47 PM To maintain PH competitiveness in BPO industry.
Palace offers outsourcing training to universities :banana::cheers::banana::cheers::banana::cheers:
by Maricel Cruz
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideNews.htm?f=/2011/september/30/news5.isx&d=2011/september/30
THE Palace is considering spending P1 billion to train students and faculty in state universities and colleges to work in call centers and other outsourced services, Budget Secretary Florencio Abad said Thursday.
Abad, criticized for cutting funding to state universities, said he had already submitted a feasibility study on the program to President Benigno Aquino III, and that it would take three months to carry out.
He said “a little over a billion pesos” would be required to train about 62,000 potential applicants with a guarantee that about 37,000 will be hired.
“We have in fact submitted to the President an additional budget of P500 million [for this purpose],” Abad told reporters.
He did not itemize the spending or fund sources, saying only that the amount would be used by lead agencies such as the Technical Education and Skills Development Authority, the Commission on Higher Education, and the Education Department, which will carry out the program in partnership with the business process outsourcing industry.
“This is on top of what is going to be provided in the General Appropriations Act,” Abad said.
“We will include them as part of the additional expenditures that we have put together, that the administration is going to implement over the next three months to further accelerate the government’s spending program.’’
Nabartek October 3rd, 2011, 04:53 AM *I don't have anything against Philippine universities because I came from one but being educated at Harvard, Yale or Cambridge makes a big big difference.
Community colleges can be compared to the Philippines "prestigious" Universities.
MatudNilaBaby October 4th, 2011, 08:53 PM Community colleges can be compared to the Philippines "prestigious" Universities.
thats basically true due to our old curriculum of 10 years of basic education. what feeds to our four year colleges and universities is lacking two years from the k-12 american curriculum. since a community college here is only a 2-year college offering certificate and associate degrees that equals the philippine 4 year college offering bachelor degrees.
no matter which prestigious college you say you graduate in the philippines, comparing it with countries with a k-12 curriculum is about the same as a community college graduate. isnt that sad to know?
OtAkAw October 5th, 2011, 06:39 AM ^^Well it's sad really and we can feel the effect all throughout.
boypad October 6th, 2011, 11:44 AM Filipino teachers lowest paid in Asia :bash:
Manila Standard Today
by Christine F. Herrera
October 6, 2011
FILIPINO professors in state universities and colleges are the lowest paid in Asia, a lawmaker said Wednesday as the country marked World Teachers’ Day.
Gabriela Rep. Luz Ilagan said a 2009 UNESCO study showed collegiate-level teachers in the Philippines had an annual salary of $9,202 compared with those of their counterparts in Malaysia ($11,438), Japan ($26,256) and Korea ($30,405).
“Not only is it a dishonor, it is also an injustice for our teachers to teach amid conditions of scarcity and slave-like compensation,” said Ilagan who taught at the Ateneo De Davao University for four decades.
“This is something that President Aquino should have learned in his years of study in Ateneo [De Manila University].”
Ilagan wanted President Benigno Aquino III to “best honor teachers” by reversing the budget cuts on education and addressing the shortages in classrooms, teaching positions and textbooks.
The proposed budget of 110 state universities and colleges was P45 billion but the Palace approved only P21.8 billion, Kabataan Rep. Raymond Palatino said.
The budget cuts amounted to some P23 billion, Palatino said. He said some P1.8 billion in capital outlay that was received by the schools in the previous administration was taken away by the Aquino administration.
ACT Teachers Rep. Antonio Tinio said the World Teachers’ Day celebration turned into protest-rallies nationwide.
Tinio was in Cebu with some 300 teachers and 500 education students who demanded pay hikes and an increase in chalk allowances to P2,000 from P700 a year.
The Palace only approved P1,000 a year per teacher in chalk allowances for next year.
The protest started at the Cebu Normal University and moved to the Fuente Osmeña Circle.
“Hundreds of public school teachers in Metro Manila, Davao City, Masbate City, Negros City, Baguio City, Iloilo City, Butuan City, Central Luzon, Bohol, and Cagayan de Oro City today [Wednesday] held simultaneous protest actions to urge the Aquino administration to [give priority to] education by allocating a higher, sufficient budget,” Tinio said. With Gigi Muñoz David
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideNews.htm?f=2011/october/6/news3.isx&d=2011/october/6
Ekweng October 6th, 2011, 01:28 PM Someone from AMA University in Bahrain (owned by Dr. Amable) told me that salary structure for their teachers depends on their nationalities. Being British payed the highest, locals second, Indians third and Filipino teachers as kulelat. Can't confirm it but this guy have access to their records.
Anyway, Happy World Teacher's Day!
the glimpser October 7th, 2011, 03:34 PM Hope this gets implemented during Aquino's term...
DepEd readies K+12 curricula for next year
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/71693/deped-readies-k12-curricula-for-next-year
By Tarra Quismundo
Philippine Daily Inquirer 1:28 am
Friday, October 7th, 2011
The Department of Education (DepEd) plan to extend the basic education course by two years is set to take off next school year with new curricula developed for Grade 1 and 1st Year High School in implementation of the K+12 (Kindergarten plus 12 years) program.
K+12 aims to raise the country’s basic education course to world standards and produce high school graduates ready to be employed even without a college degree.
The DepEd started the program with a kindergarten curriculum this year, reaching out to 5-year-olds to prepare them for entering the grades and curbing the early dropout rate.
“Voluntary kindergarten was introduced this school year to lay the groundwork for universal kindergarten in subsequent years. The department, along with its partners (education stakeholders), has also made considerable progress in the development of the K to 12 curriculum,” Tina Ganzon, director of the DepEd communications unit, said in response to e-mailed questions from the Philippine Daily Inquirer.
Restructuring
The Inquirer was not able to interview top DepEd officials because they were all out of the country.
“The DepEd is gearing up for the introduction of the new Grades 1 and 7 (1st year high school) curricula in school year 2012-2013,” Ganzon said.
According to the DepEd plan unveiled on Oct. 5 last year, K+12, alternately called K-12 (K to 12) to represent a continuum, would restructure the basic education system with a required kindergarten, six years in elementary (Grades 1-6), four years of junior high school (Grades 7-10) and two years of senior high (Grades 11-12).
Students can choose an area of specialization in the final two years, whether it be in the performing arts, vocational training, sports, agriculture, among others.
The new curricula for Grades 2 and 8 will be introduced next in 2013. The first batch of senior high school students will enter Grade 11 in school year 2016-2017. The DepEd aims to graduate the first batch of 12th graders in March 2018.
Education officials continue to hold consultations with parents, students, businessmen and other education stakeholders across the country, the DepEd said.
“Subsequent consultation sessions will be conducted in the succeeding months to provide feedback to stakeholders on how the K to 12 leadership has addressed their concerns, and share the updated details about the K to 12 curriculum and its implementation,” Ganzon said.
MatudNilaBaby October 8th, 2011, 12:44 AM The Inquirer was not able to interview top DepEd officials because they were all out of the country.
what is this suppose to mean?
Parchie October 8th, 2011, 03:52 AM If a lowly Filipino is asked, it could be that our DepEd officials are having a good time. Sans details on what they are doing there when they are supposed to be working in the country, everyone's guess is as good as mine.
Mercato October 8th, 2011, 04:56 AM Filipino teachers lowest paid in Asia :bash:
Manila Standard Today
by Christine F. Herrera
October 6, 2011
FILIPINO professors in state universities and colleges are the lowest paid in Asia, a lawmaker said Wednesday as the country marked World Teachers’ Day.
Gabriela Rep. Luz Ilagan said a 2009 UNESCO study showed collegiate-level teachers in the Philippines had an annual salary of $9,202 compared with those of their counterparts in Malaysia ($11,438), Japan ($26,256) and Korea ($30,405).If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
James Goldsmithalmost seems like deja vu, :lol: I mean the quote I had quoted. I had posted this quote on the airline thread and now here. I suppose we can replicate the same throughout many Philippine threads?
InfinitiFX45 October 10th, 2011, 06:04 PM Making Filipino Graduates More Employable :ohno::ohno::ohno:
by TRICIA V. MORENTE (Inside Business Agenda) October 10, 2011, 3:37am
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/337217/making-filipino-graduates-more-employable
MANILA, Philippines — When the World Economic Forum (WEF) released its Global Competitiveness Report 2010-2011, it painted a picture of the global economy at a time characterized by significant uncertainty.
According to the WEF, “Economies are advancing at different speeds and there is still a risk of a ‘double dip’ in a number of countries.”
It then went on to highlight 12 pillars that determine a country’s level of competitiveness, one of which is Higher Education and Training. “Quality higher education and training,” the report states, “is crucial for economies that want to move up the value chain beyond simple production processes and products.
Today’s globalizing economy requires countries to nurture pools of well-educated workers who are able to adapt rapidly to their changing environment and the evolving needs of the production system.”
The report further revealed that the Philippines ranked a poor seventh among nine Southeast Asian nations in the area of education, science and technology, and innovation. Such a shame because in a recent media roundtable discussion with Jobstreet.com, Marketing Director Yoda Buyco revealed that there is actually a surplus of jobs available in the country.
Mismatch between education and actual employment
In the recent Jobstreet.com JobGantic Career Fair 2011 last August, Buyco reports that over 158,000 job opportunities were made available to 25,000 jobseekers that came to SMX during the two-day event. “Ang daming trabaho available, both local and overseas,” Buyco shares, adding that this year, 242 employers participated in the event. The IT-BPO sector, in particular, has been the most active in hiring.
“They represent 40 percent of the postings in our website,” says Buyco. “If you visit our website today,” she adds, “you will see close to 45,000 job postings in the website. That’s just the number of postings, because if you multiply the number of job openings per posting—and some of them can range as high as 25 openings per posting—you’ll see that the total number of jobs available amount to around 250,000.”
Given the number of job opportunities available in the country, why then do we still find ourselves facing a high unemployment rate? According to Jobstreet.com Campus Specialist Maricar Estrabo, it isn’t for a lack of jobseekers or jobs available.
“One job posting in our website would actually generate over a hundred candidates, but walang nakukuhang candidate because they lack skills,” she shares, “and this is especially true for the fresh graduates segment, the ones with only one to four years of experience.”
It’s the reason why pirating employees remains a widespread trend in the BPO sector. “The common complaint among employers is that if they bank on the talents of our fresh graduates now, they end up spending a lot on training because most of our fresh graduates are not really equipped and prepared for the workforce. There are gaps from becoming a student to an employee,” reports Estrabo.
The National Internship Movement
In line with Jobstreet.com’s mission of “improving lives through better careers,” the company recently launched the National Internship Movement, with the goal to institutionalize a formal internship program in the Philippines.
“There is no national agenda on internship,” shares Estrabo, “so this is really for us to engage different sectors to help create a sustainable internship program for the youth. Our goal is to connect 1,000 employers and schools in three years.”
According to Estrabo, different sectors have already pledged their support for the movement. “The academe is putting up internship programs for schools, but they want a stronger linkage program with different employers,” she says, adding that over 100 employers have also pledged support by establishing internship programs in their respective companies.
“We also wanted to provide students the linkages with them for monitoring and assessment. We want a 360-degree monitoring and assessment for employers, students and schools,” Estrabo says.
For its part, Jobstreet.com will be providing a rendezvous for all sectors to meet by way of a micro-site where internship opportunities will be posted. “This is really our CSR (corporate social responsibility),” injects Buyco.
“Usually when an employer posts an ad about a job opening in our website, we charge them because that’s our core revenue stream. But for all internships,” she says, “we will waive the charge and give it for free. So for all of those wanting to participate in the National Internship Movement, they can post their internship programs in our website for free.”
The company also spearheaded a campus career event themed “Leadership plus the Power of Three” last September 20, and it gathered thousands of student leaders from over 100 participating colleges and universities.
Esteemed speakers and trainers discussed how student leaders should practice and maximize their leadership skills while honing the three most sought-after skills by employers: communication skills, critical thinking skills and initiative.
It’s a long journey to institutionalize a formal internship program in the Philippines, especially because “we are dealing with the national government. It’s not going to happen overnight, but we hope that when we send out a report to DOLE about the good and bad internship practices we will be able to gather from our initial run, the government will realize the value of standardizing the process,” concludes Buyco
InfinitiFX45 October 10th, 2011, 08:46 PM 10 Mapua programs get US accreditation :banana::cheers::banana::cheers::banana::cheers:
by Rizal Raoul Reyes BusinessMirror.com.ph Sunday, 09 October 2011 15:40
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/component/content/article/30-education/17623-10-mapua-programs-get-us-accreditation
THE Mapua Institute of Technology, a pillar of engineering education in the country and a member of the Yuchengco group of companies, raised the bar in their standard of education when it was given last August an accreditation by the United States-based Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET).
In a recent media briefing held at Mapua’s Makati campus, Mapua president Dr. Reynaldo Vea said the accreditation given by ABET is a milestone because it is a first time for an institution in the East Asian region to be given such recognition.
The 10 ABET-accredited programs in Mapua are: BS Chemical Engineering, BS Civil Engineering, BS Computer Engineering, BS Computer Science, BS Electrical Engineering, BS Electronics Engineering, BS Environmental and Sanitary Engineering, BS Industrial Engineering, BS Information Technology and BS Mechanical Engineering.
With an ABET accreditation, Mapua said their graduates will have an easier time to get employment, get admitted to graduate schools and take licensure examinations in the US and other parts of the world. Furthermore, Mapua said the ABET certification is a proof their graduates have passed the educational eligibility requirements once they apply for membership in international registers of engineers a few years after graduation.
ABET is a federation of 25 professional and technical societies in the US in the fields of engineering, computing, applied science and technology. ABET accreditation guarantees that a degree program meets US quality standards established by professionals themselves.
Prior to applying for ABET’s accreditation, Vea said Mapua conducted a self-assessment of the 10 programs to determine if they were at par with the standards of the accreditation body.
After determining that they are ready to face ABET, Vea said they invited people from ABET to assess Mapua’s programs.
“ABET found out that the assessed programs are comparable to the US and the rest of the world,” he said.
The ABET seal of quality education means a lot for a school that seeks global status, as it entails establishment of a rigorous education system that will enable the school to produce graduates that are sure to meet international standards—the Outcomes-Based Education (OBE) system.
Meanwhile, Bonifacio T. Doma Jr., executive vice president for academic affairs, said the OBE “basically zeroes in on outcomes.”
Doma further emphasized that outcomes differ from outputs. For one, he said outputs are the total number of graduates in a program while outcomes refer to the abilities the students have acquired at the time of graduation and the abilities that they will learn many years after graduation.
“In the previous system, schools thought that if they have the proper inputs, such as the right number of books in the library, teachers with PhDs, good equipment, among others, they could turn out good graduates. With OBE, inputs are not enough. The degree of achievement of student outcomes must be evaluated to further improve the program,” said Doma in his statement posted on the school’s web site.
rain34 October 10th, 2011, 10:34 PM ^^ ano ba yan 3 beses ko na nabasa ito ah sa ibang mga thread :nuts:
InfinitiFX45 October 10th, 2011, 11:09 PM ^^ ano ba yan 3 beses ko na nabasa ito ah sa ibang mga thread :nuts:
@rain34; WTF !!! My intention is to share and post it under the Good News thread w/c I also believed should be under the Philippine Education System and Proudly Pinoy threads as well. FYI, I didn't post it just to please you, it's intended for everyone. If you have any problem w/ that, then you might as well ignore 'em... LOL :bash::bash::bash:
amigo32 October 13th, 2011, 08:03 AM @rain34; WTF !!! My intention is to share and post it under the Good News thread w/c I also believed should be under the Philippine Education System and Proudly Pinoy threads as well. FYI, I didn't post it just to please you, it's intended for everyone. If you have any problem w/ that, then you might as well ignore 'em... LOL :bash::bash::bash:
sorry but crossposting is not allowed. read forum rules:ohno:
Ekweng October 13th, 2011, 09:04 PM http://www.checkmyschool.org/
aoq1x-COF4A
william :D October 14th, 2011, 01:56 PM Pinoys urged to donate P10 daily to address classroom shortage
By donating P10 daily, or roughly P300 a month, Filipinos can help address the shortage of classrooms in the country, a multisectoral group said on Friday.
Through the 'TEN Moves' project that aims to build 10,000 classrooms in the next two years, Filipinos can donate P10 each day or a total of P3,000 in 10 months.
The project, spearheaded by the private group "57-75 Movement," aims to help address the Department of Education (DepEd)'s shortage of classrooms which stands at 45,000 classrooms for the upcoming school year 2012-2013.
During the launching of the TEN Moves project on Friday, Mario Deriquito, one of the conveners of the "57-75 Movement," said TEN Moves makes it easier for Filipinos to help out.
"Any amount will actually do. People don't have to literally give P10 if they cannot afford it," Deriquito said.
"This just makes it easier for people to do something. If we have two million people who are willing to donate P10 a day, or about P300 a month, that will already help so many Filipino students nationwide," he added.
The Department of Education (DepEd) estimates that the construction of a multi-storey classroom building costs around P800,000.
The amount needed for 10,000 classrooms can be funded by two million donors who will each contribute at least P3,000 for the program.
Those who want to help the TEN Moves project may course their donations through the following:
BANK DEPOSITS
a. BPI
Ayala Foundation, Inc. / 0011-1335-41 / Ref No. D101010 + (donor's name)
b. BDO
Ayala Foundation, Inc. / 3600-1774-21
c. UnionBank
Ayala Foundation, Inc. / 0021-0101-3065
Online donations via credit card through the TEN Moves website www.tenmoves.org
Classroom shortage
Among the provinces the Education Department identified to have the greatest need of classrooms are:
Pangasinan;
Isabela;
Batangas;
Quezon;
Palawan;
Camarines Sur;
Iloilo;
Negros Occidental;
Negros Oriental;
Cebu;
Bohol;
Leyte;
Zamboanga del Sur, and
North Cotabato.
DepEd Secretary Bro. Armin Luistro said the Education Department is working to address the shortages in the sector by properly managing budget allocations. However, despite the government's efforts to address the classroom shortage, government resources alone remain insufficient to address resource gaps.
Luistro said the program is also a good way for ordinary Filipinos to take part in a "new people power."
"The country is in a stage where a lot of people are looking from the sidelines, saying, 'What is the government doing?' Maybe it's time to change that," he said. "Maybe it's time to say, 'What are you doing? What are we doing?"
"To me, it's really a challenge for us, a new type of people power where we move from the sidelines, we move from being critics of those in government and those who are in business and say, 'I want to invest.' Invest a little part of you," he added.
The campaign, which was started in July this year, has already gathered over P2.5 million in donations through individuals and corporate pledges.
Earlier this month, the DepEd also encouraged Filipinos abroad to donate to the project.
DepEd says it wants to prioritize addressing the classroom shortage because it leads to other problems in the education sector, such as the increase in drop-out rates and poor student performance.
"It's not so much the amount of money that we will be able to raise. This is not fund raising," Luistro said. "This is engaging ordinary Filipinos in something I am certain will build a nation." - VVP, GMA News
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/235404/nation/pinoys-urged-to-donate-p10-daily-to-address-classroom-shortage
mukhang hindi lang naman ata sa mga probinsiyang iyan may shortage? lahat ng public schools na nakita ko kulang sa rooms.
Nabartek October 14th, 2011, 07:24 PM Abolish the partylist and put their "pork barrel" into education funds. Might as well get rid of all the pork barrel
Parchie October 14th, 2011, 09:05 PM Abolish the partylist and put their "pork barrel" into education funds. Might as well get rid of all the pork barrel
Agree. Scrap CCT and construct more classrooms also.
amigo32 October 15th, 2011, 12:24 AM at sinong beneficiary sa pork ang papayag?
go figure:D
Parchie October 15th, 2011, 10:01 AM World Bank urges higher education budget (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusiness.htm?f=2011/october/15/business2.isx&d=2011/october/15)
by Roderick T. dela Cruz
The Manila Standard Online
(Conclusion)
The World Bank report says tertiary education spending in relation to gross domestic product was lowest in the Laos, Cambodia, and the Philippines. Ratios are higher in Vietnam, Indonesia, and especially Malaysia.
“To increase spending in tertiary education, Laos, Cambodia and the Philippines should consider increasing their education spending in relation to GDP. High tax shares to GDP would suggest more potential for public spending increases,” it says.
It added the Philippines’ public tertiary expenditure stood at only 0.34 percent of GDP, compared with Indonesia’s 1.2 percent, Malaysia’s 1.69 percent, Thailand’s 0.71 percent. In 2010, overall public education expenditure in the Philippines was just 2.8 percent of GDP, compared with 4.13 percent in Malaysia and 4.12 percent in Thailand.
The report says graduates from private universities and colleges in the Philippines were not doing any better. “Similarly, in the Philippines, graduates from private institutions are less likely to be ranked good than those attending public universities or polytechnics,” it says.
“Even in the Philippines, the fact that only about 30 percent of private sector university graduates are considered good [against about 40 percent for the public sector] indicates that either the average quality of demand-absorbing institutions is still not good enough or that there is scope for more semi-elite institutions [or more enrollees in semi-elite institutions],” it says.
Policy was also pointed out as an area needing reforms. “Similarly, delayed regulation in the Philippines may also have played a role in the low quality of some institutions,” it says.
The report cites the results of a survey showing that some 30 to 40 percent of firms report quality to be an important or very important issue in Indonesia and the Philippines.
It says making the Philippines’ higher educational system more responsive to labor market demands and the economy as a whole will boost the country’s drive for growth and global competitiveness.
Across the East Asia and the Pacific Region including the Philippines, employers expect workers, particularly those with higher education, to possess the technical, behavioral, and thinking skills to increase their productivity and growth, it says.
The report says skills gaps are particularly large in the service industry, export sector, and technologically intensive sector representing a very serious bottleneck for innovation and productivity in the Philippines. Employers and employees find these gaps to be particularly severe in creativity, leadership, and problem solving skills.
The report also highlights the importance of shifting investments towards building the country’s research capacity, particularly in higher education institutions.
It says the Philippines should address skill gaps by maintaining coverage and improving the quality of higher education graduates, and increase research relevant to economic needs in a few universities or departments.
It cites the need to complete the process of granting autonomy to universities (with particular focus on staffing and finance) and strengthen the role and functions of university boards. It also suggested that the government improve the quality of private higher education through better regulation and information.
It encourages selected university-industry linkages to improve curriculum relevance, support entrepreneurship, and help with technological upgrading (build on the positive examples of some existing university partnerships with firms in skills delivery.
Parchie October 15th, 2011, 12:05 PM at sinong beneficiary sa pork ang papayag?
go figure:D
Owsss. Madali lang remedyohan yan. Ang hindi papayag, patayin . . . . . . .
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sa kiliti! hehehehe
Milcah October 15th, 2011, 02:08 PM Owsss. Madali lang remedyohan yan. Ang hindi papayag, patayin . . . . . . .
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sa kiliti! hehehehe
Ipapatay sa Death Squad ng Davao City. Kawawa naman ang Death Squad, puros drug pushers nalang ang pinapatay. Ang layo kasi ng Manila kaya hindi naabot. Kung dito lang yang mga mokong yan, hindi Death Squad ang kakatakutan nila, kundi ang mga Duterte.
All hail Davao Death Squad and the Duterte dynasty!!!
Ady001 October 16th, 2011, 04:01 AM at sinong beneficiary sa pork ang papayag?
go figure:D
Masama sa katawan ang sobrang pork. bigyan na lang natin ng Fork, yung tuning fork para mabilaukan na ng tuluyan.
RonnieR October 19th, 2011, 09:37 AM Abolish the partylist and put their "pork barrel" into education funds. Might as well get rid of all the pork barrel
Agree. The Party List is just a waste of money.
RonnieR October 19th, 2011, 11:13 AM new report.
World's Best Universities
2011 ranking
http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds-best-universities-rankings/top-400-universities-in-the-world
28.National University of Singapore (NUS)-Singapore (3-Asian Ranking)
58.Nanyang Technological University (NTU)-Singapore (17-Asian Ranking)
167.Universiti Malaya (UM)-Malaysia (39-Asian Ranking)
171.Chulalongkorn University-Thailand (47-Asian Ranking)
217.University of Indonesia-Indonesia (50-Asian Ranking)
229.Mahidol University-Thailand (34-Asian Ranking)
279.Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM)-Malaysia (53-Asian Ranking)
332.University of the Philippines-Philippines (62-Asian Ranking)
335.Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM)-Malaysia (54-Asian Ranking)
342.Universitas Gadjah Mada-Indonesia (80-Asian Ranking)
358.Universiti Putra Malaysia (UPM)-Malaysia (57-Asian Ranking)
360.Ateneo de Manila University-Philippines
RonnieR October 21st, 2011, 07:37 AM Ateneo de Naga grad tops 4,066 CPA board passers
ANDREO C. CALONZO, GMA News
10/17/2011 | 02:19 PM
A graduate from the Ateneo de Naga University in Camarines Sur topped the list of 4,066 new certified public accountants (CPAs) who passed the licensure exams given this month. [Click here for complete list of passers.]
Jerome Austria got a percentage score of 94 percent in the CPA board exams administered last week by the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC)’s Board of Accountancy in seven cities in the country.
A total of 8,525 accountancy graduates took the exam, making this batch’s passing rate of 47.69 percent slightly higher compared to the 40.50 percent passing rate last May.
The second and third placers, Carlos Yu Jr. (93.43 percent) and Ronnel Mag-isa (93.29 percent), respectively, both came from the University of the Philippines (UP) Diliman campus in Quezon City.
UP Diliman was also the lone school to have registered a 100-percent passing rate in the October 2011 CPA licensure exams, according to the PRC.
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/235648/nation/ateneo-de-naga-grad-tops-4066-cpa-board-passers
pulsephaze22 October 26th, 2011, 12:55 PM Just wanna ask. What's your view about the NO PERMIT NO EXAM POLICY?
Raven83 October 26th, 2011, 05:32 PM Filipino teachers lowest paid in Asia :bash:
Manila Standard Today
by Christine F. Herrera
October 6, 2011
FILIPINO professors in state universities and colleges are the lowest paid in Asia, a lawmaker said Wednesday as the country marked World Teachers’ Day.
Gabriela Rep. Luz Ilagan said a 2009 UNESCO study showed collegiate-level teachers in the Philippines had an annual salary of $9,202 compared with those of their counterparts in Malaysia ($11,438), Japan ($26,256) and Korea ($30,405).
“Not only is it a dishonor, it is also an injustice for our teachers to teach amid conditions of scarcity and slave-like compensation,” said Ilagan who taught at the Ateneo De Davao University for four decades.
Eh ang ogag naman kasi ng point of Comparison nila Malaysia,Korea and Japan pagkanao kaya nag ang per capita income dun based on industrial output?
GDP Per Cap
Malaysia $13,385
Korea $24,803
Japan $33,596
Philippines $3,383
Average Salary = (% over GDP per Cap)
Malaysia $11,438 (around -10%)
Korea $30,405 (around +25%)
Japan $26,256 (around -25%)
Philippines $9,202 (+200% )
That makes our head spending per Teacher is above average,what this idiots didnt put into their heads is that there are other teachers in other developing countries who's salaries is much lower than us yet was able to come-up with creative teaching methods,good education is simply not about money its creativity and innovation
Parchie October 27th, 2011, 04:30 AM Eh ang ogag naman kasi ng point of Comparison nila Malaysia,Korea and Japan pagkanao kaya nag ang per capita income dun based on industrial output?
GDP Per Cap
Malaysia $13,385
Korea $24,803
Japan $33,596
Philippines $3,383
Average Salary = (% over GDP per Cap)
Malaysia $11,438 (around -10%)
Korea $30,405 (around +25%)
Japan $26,256 (around -25%)
Philippines $9,202 (+200% )
That makes our head spending per Teacher is above average,what this idiots didnt put into their heads is that there are other teachers in other developing countries who's salaries is much lower than us yet was able to come-up with creative teaching methods,good education is simply not about money its creativity and innovation
US$9,202 annual salary? P404T annually? That will be P30T plus per month? Tapos, average pa yan! Tama kaya ang figures na ito? Calling all university/ college teachers. Can you confirm or deny this?
RonnieR October 27th, 2011, 05:19 AM Just wanna ask. What's your view about the NO PERMIT NO EXAM POLICY?
It is a just policy however, the school should have also considerations or exceptions depending on the situation of the students i.e. with emergency, extreme financial difficulty, among others, to prevent abuses.
RonnieR October 27th, 2011, 05:20 AM I heard that a big maritime school is closed by CHED! Any news? Good move by our officials to maintain PH maritime schools' quality and competitiveness in the industry.
4 maritime schools face closure
By Mayen Jaymalin The Philippine Star Updated October 20, 2011 12:00 AM 1 comment to this post
MANILA, Philippines - At least four maritime schools face closure as the government intensifies its efforts to produce more efficient and competent Filipino seafarers.
Commission on Higher Education (CHED) Commissioner Nona Ricafort, however, declined to identify these substandard maritime schools because they have pending appeals with the commission.
http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=65&articleid=739216
red_jasper October 27th, 2011, 10:02 AM ^^ nagpapakitang-gilas ang CHEd...
CHEd closes school's six courses
By INA HERNANDO-MALIPOT
October 27, 2011, 3:41pm
MANILA, Philippines — The Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) on Thursday announced the closure of six substandard programs at Harvardian College located in San Fernando City, Pampanga.
CHEd Executive Director lawyer Julito Vitriolo claimed the programs were closed in view of its “gross and serious violations and continuous defiance of the Commission’s policies, standards and guidelines.” The closure order, Vitriolo said, was served on October 25 and shall take effect immediately.
Vitriolo said the decision came during its 379th Regular Commission Meeting held on September 12, 2011 upon full and careful deliberation of the recommendations of the concerned CHEd Regional and Central Offices.
Resolution No. 229-2011, which was approved by the Commission en Banc, formally ordered the closure of academic course offerings of the Harvardian College which include Bachelor of Science in Education; Bachelor of Science in Elementary Education ; Bachelor of Arts Political Science; Bachelor of Arts English; Bachelor of Science in Commerce Accounting, Management, Finance, and Master of Education-Administration, Supervision, Guidance and Counseling.
Full story here (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/339140/ched-closes-schools-six-courses)
Raven83 October 27th, 2011, 10:02 PM US$9,202 annual salary? P404T annually? That will be P30T plus per month? Tapos, average pa yan! Tama kaya ang figures na ito? Calling all university/ college teachers. Can you confirm or deny this?
Not sure sa State universities, but for Full Time Faculties in LaSalle with Industry Experience and Grad Studies salaries are between Php40k to Php60k
red_jasper October 27th, 2011, 11:40 PM CHEd closes failing schools
By Tarra Quismundo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
3:07 am | Friday, October 28th, 2011
The Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) is cracking down on substandard courses in schools of higher learning, closing poor quality programs in at least two institutions in less than a week.
CHEd Executive Director Julito Vitriolo said more schools would follow, including those with low graduation and passing rates in licensure exams, in the next few weeks.
“Sunod-sunod na ’yan. There will be more to follow. This is in response to our program for quality assurance in schools. Our representatives have been visiting schools to rate their performance,” Vitriolo said.
Story here (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/84191/ched-closes-failing-schools)
Parchie October 28th, 2011, 04:30 AM Not sure sa State universities, but for Full Time Faculties in LaSalle with Industry Experience and Grad Studies salaries are between Php40k to Php60k
I know that. That is the very reason why I asked. People seem to generalize things and make it appear that a certain figure can be used as a benchmark for rationalizing things in the sector.
RonnieR October 28th, 2011, 07:29 AM ^^ nagpapakitang-gilas ang CHEd...
Full story here (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/339140/ched-closes-schools-six-courses)
That's really good. I am pleased with CHED.
PMI, the biggest maritime school in the country was not spared! Great!
CHEd closes school's six courses
By INA HERNANDO-MALIPOT
October 27, 2011, 3:41pm
MANILA, Philippines — The Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) on Thursday announced the closure of six substandard programs at Harvardian College located in San Fernando City, Pampanga.
CHEd Executive Director lawyer Julito Vitriolo claimed the programs were closed in view of its “gross and serious violations and continuous defiance of the Commission’s policies, standards and guidelines.” The closure order, Vitriolo said, was served on October 25 and shall take effect immediately.
Last week, the CHEd also announced the closure of two maritime courses—BS Marine Transportation and BS Marine Engineering —offered by the Philippine Maritime Institute (PMI).
The closure of the courses will be implemented in PMI Manila and Quezon City campuses effective second semester of school year 2011-2012.
The Commission encouraged the public to report the operation by schools of non-compliant college courses to the CHEd regional offices where these schools are located.
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/339140/ched-closes-schools-six-courses
skywalker2008 October 29th, 2011, 05:37 AM US$9,202 annual salary? P404T annually? That will be P30T plus per month? Tapos, average pa yan! Tama kaya ang figures na ito? Calling all university/ college teachers. Can you confirm or deny this?
The Human Resource Management Office
3rd Floor, Administrative Building,
Technological University of the Philippines
P.O. Box 3171, Ayala Boulevard Ermita, Manila, 1000
We are currently in need of the following:
INSTRUCTOR II
No. of Vacant Item/s: 6
Salary Grade: 13
Educational Qualification: Bachelor's degree in the area of specialization
Posted on: 10.10.2011
PROFESSOR 5
No. of Vacant Item/s: 3
Salary Grade: 28
Educational Qualification: Relevant master's degree
Experience: Five years of relevant experience
Training: Thirty-two hours of relevant training
Posted on: 10.10.2011
Full Listing: http://www.tup.edu.ph/careers.php?type=faculty
Salary Range (Salary Grade 13 - Salary Grade 28) = 19,658 - 58,132
Average = 38,895
Source: Salary Grade - http://www.gov.ph/2011/04/29/executive-order-no-40-3/
Ephesus29 October 30th, 2011, 05:55 AM If I could butt in;
The government should increased education funding, and pays educators handsomely to attract talented and skilled teachers.
I thought, there is an underlying problem too in the tiered education system in the Philippines. One for the wealthy and another for the poor. Appalling and extremely unacceptable. Quality education must and should be accessible to all.
Proper screening of deserving students, that are qualified to go to tertiary education is a must. For those academically challenge to get to higher learning are provided with quality training in vocational and other apprenticeship to get them gained traction in the employment scene.
In B.C. Canada, schools, (Prep/kinder/elem/high school) are free and are all funded by revenue raised from property taxes. Even privately run school system gets 60% of their annual funding from the the same source. Teachers/educators are well paid, and with a great benefits that is comparable to the rest of the western world. While private educators get paid well, they still fell short in terms of some privileges and other benefits, but not much.
amigo32 October 30th, 2011, 07:19 AM Sorry, binabawasan namin ang budget sa edukasyun at dinagdag namin sa CCT.
sabi nga ang taong malulunod na ay kailangan bigyan ng salbabida at hindi turuan paano lumangoy. saka na lang sya turuan pag ok na sya:lol:
Ady001 October 30th, 2011, 10:13 AM ^^ I wanted to teach literature in the university before but without any credentials, I have to settle for a non-teaching profession.
xxxriainxxx October 30th, 2011, 10:50 AM new report.
That forgot #88 (Asian ranking)
Thammasat University, Thailand
pulsephaze22 November 1st, 2011, 04:01 PM YPOfC_dGRRs
Found it on youtube. Quite interesting.
Ady001 November 2nd, 2011, 03:52 AM ^^ Kaya pala sa Cebu nag-aaral yung kaibigan kong nakatapos ng Environmental Science sa University of Washington ng Pagdodoktor... Hmmm... Very hmmm...
Makes me wonder, what's with going to Harvard kung may Harvardian naman diyan? Or bakit pa sa MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) kung may MIT (Mapua Institute of Technology) naman din dito.
pulsephaze22 November 2nd, 2011, 09:25 AM ^^ Kaya nga nagtataka ako eh. Panget daw education system sa pinas pero mas maayos pa pala tayo gumawa ng mga assignments, haha
MatudNilaBaby November 2nd, 2011, 03:55 PM ^^ Kaya nga nagtataka ako eh. Panget daw education system sa pinas pero mas maayos pa pala tayo gumawa ng mga assignments, haha
yeah that paper written by a pinoy got an F. opening with a very lengthy phrases thats a run-on sentence. para sa nagsulat his paper sounded really good pero wala diay substance. more and more practice bago makapasa sa native english speaking countries.
patchay November 2nd, 2011, 08:50 PM Eh ang ogag naman kasi ng point of Comparison nila Malaysia,Korea and Japan pagkanao kaya nag ang per capita income dun based on industrial output?
GDP Per Cap
Malaysia $13,385
Korea $24,803
Japan $33,596
Philippines $3,383
Average Salary = (% over GDP per Cap)
Malaysia $11,438 (around -10%)
Korea $30,405 (around +25%)
Japan $26,256 (around -25%)
Philippines $9,202 (+200% )
That makes our head spending per Teacher is above average,what this idiots didnt put into their heads is that there are other teachers in other developing countries who's salaries is much lower than us yet was able to come-up with creative teaching methods,good education is simply not about money its creativity and innovation
sorry to interrupt but this is interesting. Does that mean teachers in Malaysia are underpaid? It's quite true actually.
boypad November 3rd, 2011, 05:13 AM Found it on youtube. Quite interesting.
^^ Nice catch. Ang galing naman pwede na palang e-outsource pati yun assignment ng mga kano. Malaking pera din yun $15 per page na term paper. Ok na side line yun. Magkano naman kaya kung ang assigment na e-pa outsource ay thesis? aabot siguro ng between $ 500 - 1000 USD per thesis :lol::lol:
Ady001 November 3rd, 2011, 09:10 AM yeah that paper written by a pinoy got an F. opening with a very lengthy phrases thats a run-on sentence. para sa nagsulat his paper sounded really good pero wala diay substance. more and more practice bago makapasa sa native english speaking countries.
Heard that sample paper as well; it's a run-on sentence with all air and no substance.
MatudNilaBaby November 3rd, 2011, 11:01 PM Heard that sample paper as well; it's a run-on sentence with all air and no substance.
the writer could have used the basic grammar check than rely on what he thought sounded great.
RonnieR November 4th, 2011, 10:31 AM sorry to interrupt but this is interesting. Does that mean teachers in Malaysia are underpaid? It's quite true actually.
I'm also surprised with the salaries of teachers in Malaysia. If it is based on GDP per capita, the salaries there should be more than double than the average US$11K per annum.
Mr. Sandman November 6th, 2011, 08:29 AM Eh ang ogag naman kasi ng point of Comparison nila Malaysia,Korea and Japan pagkanao kaya nag ang per capita income dun based on industrial output?
GDP Per Cap
Malaysia $13,385
Korea $24,803
Japan $33,596
Philippines $3,383
Average Salary = (% over GDP per Cap)
Malaysia $11,438 (around -10%)
Korea $30,405 (around +25%)
Japan $26,256 (around -25%)
Philippines $9,202 (+200% )
That makes our head spending per Teacher is above average,what this idiots didnt put into their heads is that there are other teachers in other developing countries who's salaries is much lower than us yet was able to come-up with creative teaching methods,good education is simply not about money its creativity and innovationYou are absolutely correct regarding it's not only about money.
Let's also look at the student-teacher ratios (source: UNESCO)
Primary (Elementary):
Malaysia 31.7 : 1
Japan 28.6 : 1
Thailand 22.9 : 1
India 40 : 1
Philippines 43.9 : 1 (I think I read somewhere that this is the highest ratio in Asia, even Cambodia has a lower ratio)
Secondary (High School):
Malaysia 34 : 1
Japan 33.9 : 1
Thailand 41.5 : 1
India 39 : 1
Philippines 56 : 1
And since these are averages, I would not be surprised to see H/S classes with 60-80 students.
Another point to consider, in the 2007-2008 school year the Philippines spent an average of US$318 per pupil, while in Thailand it was US$1048 per pupil.
the writer could have used the basic grammar check than rely on what he thought sounded great.On a side note, have you read the posts in the various Phil. forums? There's an abundance of grammatical errors, especially in subject-verb agreement, especially since this is a very basic concept.
Parchie November 6th, 2011, 12:48 PM DepEd's K+12 initiative: Two steps backward
By Jose R. Gullas (philstar.com) Updated October 12, 2011 12:00 AM
I am very alarmed by both the obstinacy of the DepEd leadership to ram its K+12 initiative down the throats of the Filipino people, and the cryptic silence of educators and parents who will ultimately suffer the consequences of this misguided program.
If they will not raise their voices now, they will wake up one morning and find themselves weighed down by the tremendous burden of having to go through, and pay for, two more years of unnecessary and unwarranted education.
At present, the government is already unable to provide for the requirements of a 10-year basic education program. Adding two more years of unnecessary education will only worsen the already severely deteriorated quality of education that the Filipino youth have to contend with.
The K+12 program is an anomaly. It adds one school year — preschool or kindergarten - to the six-year elementary curriculum, and two more years to the four years of high school, thus making basic education a 13-year burden to Filipino children and their parents.
can have as many variations of a K+ program, but if you do not factor in the parents, no educatiAnd for what? The only compelling reason offered by the DepEd is that this is what other countries are doing. But that is merely looking at the trees and not the forest. The DepEd conveniently ignores the fact that good education is never measured by the length of schooling but by the quality of the instruction and the support facilities.
The reason why other countries such as our Asean neighbors are turning out quality graduates is not because these graduates spent more time in school. Their graduates are better because they enjoy the abundant resources that their countries pour into their educational programs.
DepEd says adding two more years to basic education will allow our graduates to be more employment-oriented and mature. Really? The DepEd must be hopelessly out of touch with reality and needs to plant its feet squarely on the ground.
How can the DepEd miss the glaring fact that, despite having enjoyed only a 10-year basic education program, F1lipino graduates are in virtually all industries in the world. The world turns with the help of Filipino graduates in shipping, construction., manufacturing and information technology. They are in the professions as lawyers, doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers and accountants. They are in the various global service sectors.
And then let us not ignore the effect of the K+12 program on parents because at the end of the day, it is still the parents who are responsible for the schooling of their children. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . .
Consider these primordial concerns:
1. Is the added cost of two more years for high school affordable? Can the majority of Filipino parents who belong to the average and below-average income brackets afford the already heavy cost of education?
2. Do we have enough classrooms to accommodate two added years considering that, given the rapid increase in population, more and more children come of school age every year?
3. Do we have qualified teachers, considering that government has not given the teaching profession the respect, recognition and importance it deserves? How can we have qualified teachers when teaching ranks very low as a career choice, given its far from attractlve benefits? The greatest indictment against this situation is the fact that many of our teachers prefer to endure working as maids overseas because of the better pay. And the DepEd has never seen this?
4. Does the government have the resources to match its ambition? Can it pay the cost of two more years of basic education?
This schoolyear, to accommodate a total of 1,126,722 preschool pupils, no less than 45,068 teachers are required (at 25 pupils per class). But you know how many the DepEd can afford to hire? Only 29,000 teachers, or only about two-thirds of the requirement.
This schoolyear, 66,800 classrooms were needed for basic education. And how many did government build? Only 9,000. of the 101,612 teachers needed for basic education, only 10,000 were hired. And yet DepEd obstinately wants to push forward with two more years to basic education?
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Clearly the K+12 program is destined for failure under the present circumstances. Instead of raising standards, it will only result in more dropouts in both the elementary and high school levels. Even as government is expected to be saddled with the runaway costs, parents will be hard-pressed as well to scrounge for the extra funds to finance the extra years of basic education.
Right now, many students walk to school in the barangays without breakfast, then go home and sleep without having a decent meal. And because hunger will prove to be more persistent than the urge to get an education, these poor children will eventually drop out to try and meet the more urgent need of helping their parents put food on the table.
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Contrary to DepEd’s expectations, the K+12 program, at this point in time, is a move in the wrong direction. It can only take us two steps backward.
How lamentable that DepEd refuses to see the reality and the folly of its initiative, that just because something is new does not necessarily mean it is a change for the better. The present system may not be perfect but it works and has withstood the tests of time. Changing that system abruptly, especially when we are totally unprepared for the change, can be disastrous.
Adding two more years to basic education is no different from the wanton establlshment of more community colleges all over the archipelago, without any regard for the lack of teachers and facilities that these colleges must surely face. As a result of these inadequacies, these schools churn out poor quality graduates year after year. And then we want to add two more years to further burden the system?
Where is Philippine education going. Quo vadis K+12?
Most of our political leaders still prefer to stand in the sidelines on this issue. Do they have to wait until parents, the reality of this folly staring them in the face, start making noises? And when these leaders finally react, whose concern will they choose to adopt? The time to make a stand is now. They need to speak out now so Filipinos will know for whose interests they truly serve.
The road to a better future is not the addition of more years to education but to make sure and guarantee the quality of the years we now spend in school.
Education secretaries often want to leave their marks on Philippine education. Secretary Lourdes Quisumbing focused on values training. Secretary Isidro Carino went for infrastructure projects. Secretary Ricardo Gloria promoted science education. Secretary Edilberto de Jesus was instrumental in assisting Rep. Jose R. Gullas, the father of the Payroll Regionalization Program, in realizing the regionalization of the DepEd’s payroll services, a development that greatly benefitted the country’s public school teachers and non-teaching personnel.
The present DepEd secretary, Armin Luistro, should seriously rethink and reassess his K+12 initiative. Adding two more years to basic education at a time of rising poverty and lack of logistical support from government can spell disaster for the country’s educatlonal system. His primary task is to move that system forward, not take two steps backward. If he remains oblivious to reality, then all that can be said is Quo vadis, Philippine education?
Full text (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=736488&publicationSubCategoryId=135)
MatudNilaBaby November 6th, 2011, 10:27 PM DepEd's K+12 initiative: Two steps backward
By Jose R. Gullas (philstar.com) Updated October 12, 2011 12:00 AM
Full text (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=736488&publicationSubCategoryId=135)
the writer pointed out some pressing education issues which have been in existence since the marcos/ramos/estrada/aquino/macapagal era. adding two years of basic education will greatly help improve the quality of our graduates because there's two more years of reading, computing and writing, thus making our graduates globally competitive especially in highly advanced countries.
another issue this writer could have tackled is family planning as it relate to education. stop making babies if you can no longer afford to send your kids to school so that dept. ed's problem of classroom shortages will be solve.
Mercato November 7th, 2011, 02:02 AM the writer could have used the basic grammar check than rely on what he thought sounded great.
On a side note, have you read the posts in the various Phil. forums? There's an abundance of grammatical errors, especially in subject-verb agreement, especially since this is a very basic concept.Interesting proposition. :lol: Quite a few here are unable to translate their thoughts exactly as to what they meant and so it turns out rather silly.
We have a lot to thank Kris Aquino and her cohorts for that. :D It would seem like in the end, Taglish had won the day and had become obligatory for everyone here to be part of the "in" and hip pinoy crowd. :rofl:
Consider this advert/ blog for a new aircraft. What do you think of it? The lack of attention to detail even in the advertising stage is a bit disconcerting. ;)
Dornier Seastar has 12 seats, meaning the new model will have double capacity compared to Seastar (photo : flightglobal)
He added that the airplane is capable of travelling a distance of approximately 2,000 nautical miles long-range endurance and be equipped with two Pratt &Whitney powered turbo propeller engines.
Their facilities in Clark is manufacturing a two-seater multi-purpose aircraft primarily designed to provide a training flat form to seaplane pilots who need trainings.
The S-Ray 007 single engine seaplane could be operated on both lands and sea with short takeoffs and capable of landing on runways or 2 feet seas.
The plane it said is ideal for surveillance missions, UAV missions (uninhabited air vehicles) that can be launched into a boat or carriers and can be transported into a container which flips it wings 90 degrees.
1. approximately 2,000 nautical miles long-range endurance and will be equipped ...
2. primarily designed to provide a training (flat form). :ohno: ~ Why is the form FLAT? :hilarious. The proper term is platform
3. to seaplane pilots who need trainings. ~ ditch the "s" in this case, for heaven's sakes. :hilarious ... who need training.
4. could be operated on both lands and sea ~ again, ditch the "s" on land. :lol:
5. The plane it said is ideal for surveillance missions ~ the sentence became unwieldy and clumsy because of the extra "it said". Or I almost thought the plane was speaking .. sheesh :ohno: ... This is much simpler- The plane is ideal for surveillance missions
6. UAV missions (uninhabited air vehicles) ~ !! really now, :hilarious UAV = Unmanned Air/Aerial Vehicle. :|... oh well. :lol:
7. UAV missions (uninhabited air vehicles) that can be launched into a boat or carriers ~ What a scary thought!! The sentence basically means to ram the UAVs(911 style) right into boats and/ or aircraft carriers. :rofl: Change the "into" to a from and you'll get it right.
8. UAV missions (uninhabited air vehicles) that can be launched into a boat or carriers and can be transported into a container which flips it wings 90 degrees. ~ I'm not sure what he means, but the sentence tells us that the container can "flip its wings 90 degrees". Hurray for the super flying container (with wings). :cheer:
boypad November 7th, 2011, 06:57 AM Priority skills tagged by TESDA, industries
BusinessWorld Online
Posted on November 06, 2011 10:58:17 PM
TRAINING for 10 skills will be prioritized by the government a bid to meet the needs of key industries, the Technical Education and Skills Development Authority (TESDA) announced.
A TESDA resolution published yesterday listed 10 qualifications recommended by industry partners during consultation meetings last September.
Resolution 2011-09, one of several issuances approved during an Oct. 7 TESDA board meeting, orders the prioritization of the following skills for the telecommunications, livestock, construction, health care, agriculture and programming sectors:
• telecom OSP (outside plant) and subscriber line installation (copper/cable/plain old telephone service/direct subscriber line);
• telecom OSP installation (fiber-optic cable);
• animal breeding (artificial insemination);
• formworks systems installation;
• construction lifting equipment/ passenger elevator operation;
• medical coding and billing;
• rubber tapping;
• game programming;
• 2D game art development; and
• 3D game art development
“TESDA regularly conducts industry consultations, particularly in preparation of training regulations (TRs),” TESDA Director-General Joel J. Villanueva said in a text message yesterday.
The TESDA resolution identified the industry associations/partners that requested the skills as including telcos Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (PLDT) and Globe Telecommunications, Inc.; the farm sector-centered Hog Federation of the Philippines and the Pork Producers Federation of the Philippines; Philippine Constructors’ Association; and the Game Development Association of the Philippines.
“All the TRs were prepared together with industry,” Mr. Villanueva said. “The industry is in a better position to determine their own skills needs, the standards required in the workplace. This is why TESDA involves the industry in this effort.
http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=TopStory&title=Priority-skills-tagged-by-TESDA,-industries&id=41193
boypad November 7th, 2011, 07:05 AM ^^ I saw on MB yesterday 2012 priority skill development for TESDA. One thing I don't agree, why on earth we need to spent vocational training to develop "telecom osp" skill which is suppose to be main responsibility of telco industry to beef up their own manpower requirement.
Instead of channeling the training for telcos related job, TESDA should use their budget to develop and train BPO related skills which is consider more beneficial to more unskilled worker and has longer benefit to our kababayan.
epik ll ian November 8th, 2011, 12:53 AM DepEd's K+12 initiative: Two steps backward
By Jose R. Gullas (philstar.com) Updated October 12, 2011 12:00 AM
Full text (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=736488&publicationSubCategoryId=135)
Complaints, complaints complaints. Always complaining. I'm sick of these kinds of people, so big shame on you Jose. Come up with solutions and ways to accommodate the change rather than complaining about it. I believe in the K+12 initiative - it needs support, dedication and an open mind.
RonnieR November 8th, 2011, 11:57 AM Complaints, complaints complaints. Always complaining. I'm sick of these kinds of people, so big shame on you Jose. Come up with solutions and ways to accommodate the change rather than complaining about it. I believe in the K+12 initiative - it needs support, dedication and an open mind.
I agree.
Parchie November 11th, 2011, 11:52 AM Complaints, complaints complaints. Always complaining. I'm sick of these kinds of people, so big shame on you Jose. Come up with solutions and ways to accommodate the change rather than complaining about it. I believe in the K+12 initiative - it needs support, dedication and an open mind.
FYI, he is an educator. He is a doer and not a whining blogger. He helps poor, aspiring students from the provinces finish college by offering affordable tuition fees in his university. He is listened to because he knows what he is taking about. He is synonymous to the University of the Visayas in Cebu City!
Sino ngayon ang may k? Sino ang shameful? Most of all, who is not offering solutions?
boypad November 11th, 2011, 12:11 PM New dropout rates show Aquino’s budget cut would worsen situation :ohno:
GoldStar Daily
Friday, 11 November 2011 00:00
WE call the latest "drop-out rates" released by the National Statistics Office (NSO) as proof that the Aquino administration's policies, especially in regards to Education, are steps in the wrong direction. One out of eight Filipinos between the ages of six and 24 are "out of School," according to the recently released 2010 Annual Poverty Indicators Survey (Apis) by the National Statistics Office. Among the top reasons given by respondents are "high cost of Education" and "looking for work." It's not surprising. This year's study by the National Union of Students in the Philippines (NUSP) which showed that the average tuition rate for Philippine universities is at P501.22 per unit (nationwide) and P980.54 (Metro Manila).
Assuming that a student takes 18 units per semester, and attends two semesters per year, then a student spends an average of P18,043.92 to P35,299.44 per year. Meanwhile, 80% of all Filipinos live on less than P104 a day, according to a 2011 study by the think-tank Ibon Foundation. This means that 80% of all Filipinos have to skip their meals and other daily expenses for at least 175 and 342 days to be able to send a child to School outside and in Metro Manila, respectively.
The government should fully subsidize, not just our tuition and other fees, but also other costs such as dormitories and housing, books and other study materials, School meals, and transportation. Yet the government is actually taking a step in the opposite direction. State universities and colleges (SUCs) which are supposed to provide more accessible Education, as compared to private Schools, are being forced to hike tuition and other fees in recent years due to budget cuts. Under the Aquino administration, SUCs have had their funding slashed twice in as many years.
The survey results have boosted the determination of many students to resist the budget cuts, according to the youth leader. Progressive youth and student groups are planning to build upon last September's successful nationwide campus strike with an "Occupy the Schools" campaign, similar to the "Occupy Wall Street" movement in the United States. We won't just go on strike. Since Noynoy's intention is to push all of us out of School, we're determined to shut down the Schools until they scrap the budget cuts. Vencer Crisostomo, Chairperson, Anakbayan
http://www.goldstardailynews.com/letter%28s%29/6909-new-dropout-rates-show-aquinos-budget-cut-would-worsen-situation.html
the glimpser November 12th, 2011, 01:13 PM DepEd: Follow standard time not 'Filipino time'
By Shielo Mendoza | Yahoo! Southeast Asia Newsroom
Fri, Nov 11, 2011
To do away with the negative connotation of Filipino time, the Department of Education directed all school officials nationwide to synchronize with the Philippine Standard Time (PST) so that all school-based activities are conducted simultaneously.
Following DepEd Order No. 86, all school offices are to match the PST established by the Department of Science and Technology through the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration.
The PST is set using the DOST-PAGASA’s timing system consisting of a rubidium atomic clock, Global Positioning System receiver, time interval counter, distribution amplifier, and a computer.
Source:
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/deped--follow-standard-time-not--filipino-time--20111111.html
Mercato November 12th, 2011, 02:25 PM ^^ it's about time, no pun intended. :lol:
coldfire083 November 12th, 2011, 03:23 PM Sabi ng dalawang pamangkin ko ay sobrang mas mahirap and mas may matutunan ka dito sa Pilipinas lalo na sa private school kaysa school sa UK. Dito sa Pilipinas ay malulunod ka daw sa mga research and homeworks pero sa UK ang homework ay search mo lang sa internet and copy and paste sa email tapos ay ok na daw. And mas madalas pa ang fieldtrip kaysa major exam.
Ady001 November 12th, 2011, 03:55 PM ^^ Well, how about applying things?
anakngpasig November 13th, 2011, 05:05 AM the writer pointed out some pressing education issues which have been in existence since the marcos/ramos/estrada/aquino/macapagal era. adding two years of basic education will greatly help improve the quality of our graduates because there's two more years of reading, computing and writing, thus making our graduates globally competitive especially in highly advanced countries.
another issue this writer could have tackled is family planning as it relate to education. stop making babies if you can no longer afford to send your kids to school so that dept. ed's problem of classroom shortages will be solve.
agree ako dito. gusto ko rin ng K+12. from personal experience, 4 years lang sa high school namin and calculus wasn't even taught juskopo, so pagdating ko sa UP, in fairness hirap na hirap ako sa Math 53-54-55 (calculus series) :D but yung younger sister ko, who went to a K+12 private school, 5 years high school nila at yung last year nila, calculus ang tinuturo so madalas nyang hinihiram yung Leithold book ko, so pagdating nya sa college, parang review na lang sa kanya ang Math series :D masasabi ko talagang the extra years can help prepare students well pagdating ng college.
MatudNilaBaby November 13th, 2011, 08:56 AM agree ako dito. gusto ko rin ng K+12. from personal experience, 4 years lang sa high school namin and calculus wasn't even taught juskopo, so pagdating ko sa UP, in fairness hirap na hirap ako sa Math 53-54-55 (calculus series) :D but yung younger sister ko, who went to a K+12 private school, 5 years high school nila at yung last year nila, calculus ang tinuturo so madalas nyang hinihiram yung Leithold book ko, so pagdating nya sa college, parang review na lang sa kanya ang Math series :D masasabi ko talagang the extra years can help prepare students well pagdating ng college.
calculus is taken as an elective in high school over here for students who want to major in engineering or mathematics at the university level.
there is one good thing about the k+12 curriculum there that i like and that is the vocational education component. that's a step in the right direction by integrating vocational or lifelong skills toward the junior/senior year in high school. in that way, once you graduate high school, you have the necessary skills to start an entry level job.
i only hope that the dept. ed will provide a varied selection of vocational training programs thats relevant to the students personal interests.
Mercato November 13th, 2011, 09:01 AM agree ako dito. gusto ko rin ng K+12. from personal experience, 4 years lang sa high school namin and calculus wasn't even taught juskopo, so pagdating ko sa UP, in fairness hirap na hirap ako sa Math 53-54-55 (calculus series) :D but yung younger sister ko, who went to a K+12 private school, 5 years high school nila at yung last year nila, calculus ang tinuturo so madalas nyang hinihiram yung Leithold book ko, so pagdating nya sa college, parang review na lang sa kanya ang Math series :D masasabi ko talagang the extra years can help prepare students well pagdating ng college.there is one good thing about the k+12 curriculum there that i like and that is the vocational education component. that's a step in the right direction by integrating vocational or lifelong skills toward the junior/senior year in high school. in that way, once you graduate high school, you have the necessary skills to start an entry level job.
i only hope that the dept. ed will provide a varied selection of vocational training programs thats relevant to the students personal interests.:yes::yes:
epik ll ian November 13th, 2011, 08:36 PM There should also be some kind of Participation in Government class, so students can feel like they are a part of the greater cause. Hopefully the class can give that little boost of nationalism that people need, so they can stay in their country and have a burning desire to help it improve.
Parchie November 14th, 2011, 01:13 AM agree ako dito. gusto ko rin ng K+12. from personal experience, 4 years lang sa high school namin and calculus wasn't even taught juskopo, so pagdating ko sa UP, in fairness hirap na hirap ako sa Math 53-54-55 (calculus series) :D but yung younger sister ko, who went to a K+12 private school, 5 years high school nila at yung last year nila, calculus ang tinuturo so madalas nyang hinihiram yung Leithold book ko, so pagdating nya sa college, parang review na lang sa kanya ang Math series :D masasabi ko talagang the extra years can help prepare students well pagdating ng college.
I would like to play the devil's advocate here. And if I may defer, learning cannot be due to the system alone or the length of time spent burning candles. Learning styles, culture, teacher-student mismatches, available education materials, etc., all impact on how students progress in school. The Education department is proposing something new but they haven't even done serious reviews on the books and the education materials they had been giving to our schools; bad information/ wrong ideas/ false data, etc. are found in the textbooks and reference books.
That is besides the fact that on any program, there will always be laggards and performers as well. Preparation does help, but in the ultimate analysis, the kind of student and what his/her brains are made up of runs supreme. Ever heard of a farm boy excelling even more than those kids who went through Prep, K1, K2, etc.?
If these proposasl were made by the government of Sultanate of Brunei, there will be no negative reactions, IMHO. Simply because the government there is more than capable of spending money on almost any project it can think of! Now, why on the Philippines do education planners of the government think it will work out fine here? Impress me, please.
bakasaurus November 14th, 2011, 12:58 PM I would like to play the devil's advocate here. And if I may defer, learning cannot be due to the system alone or the length of time spent burning candles. Learning styles, culture, teacher-student mismatches, available education materials, etc., all impact on how students progress in school. The Education department is proposing something new but they haven't even done serious reviews on the books and the education materials they had been giving to our schools; bad information/ wrong ideas/ false data, etc. are found in the textbooks and reference books.
True, but if we hold the two systems in comparison controlling for those other factors that you mentioned, the longer years will, IM professional O (can I say this because I was an educator myself, although a student again now..:lol:), eventually edge out the shorter, cramped one we have now. But that is as far as learning is concerned.
That is besides the fact that on any program, there will always be laggards and performers as well. Preparation does help, but in the ultimate analysis, the kind of student and what his/her brains are made up of runs supreme. Ever heard of a farm boy excelling even more than those kids who went through Prep, K1, K2, etc.?
Yes, it's true that a really smart person will be smart whether he/she was born poor or rich (provided that the poor one isn't sufficiently debilitated by severe malnutrition which affects brain development). However, I believe we should make the average guy/gal the benchmark of how well our educational system is in achieving the goal of actualizing and unleashing the potentials of our citizens. In a more democratic sense, we should care more about those in the middle and the lower rungs of society so as to give them a better chance at upward social mobility. I'm afraid to say that in our country, socioeconomic status does correlate well with educational achievement.
So again, as you said in your first sentence, I think this point is irrelevant for the discussion as to which system works better.
If these proposasl were made by the government of Sultanate of Brunei, there will be no negative reactions, IMHO. Simply because the government there is more than capable of spending money on almost any project it can think of! Now, why on the Philippines do education planners of the government think it will work out fine here? Impress me, please.
Now with this one, I'm in all agreement. This is the biggest issue when it comes to implementing this proposed system. Again, I would really prefer if we could shift to the K12 system or our own version of it, but all of these talks would just be talk and campaign material, and publicity vehicle unless the government backs it up with an UNEQUIVOCAL financial plan to get it going. What we now see is the continuing reluctance of the powers that be to spend more for education, so how can we ever believe this one?
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anakngpasig November 18th, 2011, 03:47 PM ^^ if I may add, I also think maturity also matters. Most kids finish high school and attend college at 16yo. Some are even just 15yo, at isa na ako dun. Nakaka-shock po ang college sa isang bata especially when, all of the sudden, you're being treated like an adult when you're not. Yes, we did get counseling nung high school on what college is suppose to be like but ibang-iba sya in reality and many (isa na ako) were not prepared psychologically and emotionally. I was only able to adjust in my third year. Marami din akong school mates who were having a hard time and some even had to quit, not because they were not smart but because they were not mature enough for college life. There were, of course, kids who were able to adjust and cope with the pressures of college life quickly but many simply broke down.
I don't know how things are like in other universities, but in UP, many are being left alone with almost no adult supervision. Many live in dormitories, away from parents for the first time. Aside from professors who treated us like adults, we had to deal with all sorts of other complicated things like budgeting (when SM North is just a jeepney ride away with, hello, no parents watching us). Remember, we were still kids. No matter how many times parents remind us to prioritize school first, it's just hard to act like a mature adult when you're actually not. :D
Ady001 November 19th, 2011, 09:30 AM ^^ Well, mahal daw magpaaral eh kaya iniiklian na lang.
Parchie November 19th, 2011, 03:51 PM ^^ Well, mahal daw magpaaral eh kaya iniiklian na lang.
OTOH,kung ili-libre ng gobiyerno yung additional 2 years, why not? Question: "Libre ba?"
Ady001 November 19th, 2011, 04:16 PM ^^ And there, I conclude how shortsighted some of us could be.
There's no such thing as a free lunch but then again, the best things in life are free.
The government may take the initiative of putting increased subsidies to education but in the end, it boils down to individuals on how they would place education as a priority.
At sa bansang ito. Di ka na magtataka.
Education is a long-term investment. If you produce half-baked students, you get half-done individuals. Para din yang pag-buburn ng CD; if you burnt the CD too fast, an error or two is bound to produce. Worse is if the CD Writer is already damaged; you're prone to buffer underrun.
So how does it relate to education?
Everything takes time.
Sure, we hear news reports from other countries stating they could go from 12 years to 11 years of education and that even China is having problems of its surplus post-graduates (even I read a Singaporean article undermining degrees) but the truth is that not all of us share the same brain, understand the same thing at the quickest or soonest time possible.
Hindi lahat ng nag-aaral sa Pilipinas ay kasing talino ng taga-Pisay, ngunit sa tamang panahon at de-kalidad na pagtuturo ay mahahasa din siya sa kanyang larangan.
The best thing to implement this is to do this at a slow pace. Try to make a sample or experimental class of students from all over the country. Start this in High School. Make a sample curriculum for a special band of students. Then implement the added 2 years and let's wait for the results.
Yes, it takes time, but everything does don't they?
We may have problems with equipment, facilities, educational materials, even capable and highly-calibrated instructors but remember that all of this are just bits and pieces of a larger picture. We need to improve not only our facilities but we have to put time as well into hand. Learning is not only measured by how conducive the learning atmosphere is; it is also measured by how we put time into prospect.
And also, we have to learn how to respect our teachers. We have to put a stringent rule na sasala sa mga teachers. If not, evaluate them at a yearly basis. Let's put meritocracy back to its feet.
Sino ba naman ang hindi kukulelat sa mga international exams kung tig-50 yung kada isang classroom, hatian pa sa isang araw (morning and afternoon) and tadtad pa ng holidays and cancellations tuwing bagyo. Tapos, we all know that oldies preferred rote memorization than actual practice. You then mix it with the lack of facilities or programs that would otherwise supplement subjects that needed these. These factors prove disastrous to our society.
This is probably one of the reasons why this country never prospers.
Parchie November 19th, 2011, 04:39 PM To summarize, if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys!
Ady001 November 19th, 2011, 05:11 PM ^^ And if you get monkeys, you get a banana republic.
Hmmm... Dilaw, kulay ng saging, dilaw, hmmm....
Mercato November 19th, 2011, 05:56 PM How much or rather what % of the budget is spent for education?
RealFlip November 22nd, 2011, 05:15 AM Philippine education ranked 'poor'
By Max V. de Leon, Business Mirror
Posted at 06/15/2011 6:51 AM | Updated as of 06/15/2011 10:17 AM
MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines ranks a poor seventh among nine Southeast Asian nations in the area of education and innovation, Guillermo M. Luz, co-chairman of the National Competitiveness Council (NCC), said.
At a forum on Innovation and Entrepreneurship for a Globally Competitive Philippines on Tuesday, Luz presented the disturbing results of the 2010-2011 Global Competitiveness Report of the World Economic Forum, which showed that the Philippines only fared better than Cambodia, among the eight Southeast Asian countries that were surveyed in the fields of education, science and technology and innovation.
In the area of primary education, the Philippines ranked 99th out of 138 economies. The Philippines ranked 69th in educational system, 112th in science and math, and 76th on Internet access.
In all categories, the Philippines was falling behind Singapore, Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam.
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Full Article: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/06/14/11/philippine-education-ranked-poor
Why am I not surprised?
Parchie November 22nd, 2011, 10:19 AM I would be very much informed, or any thinking nobody for that matter, if the criteria for judging were mentioned even just in passing. That way we can see which area our planners should focus on some more.
RonnieR November 22nd, 2011, 06:16 PM This is something that we should be proud:
In 2005: Only 6% of public high schools had internet access
In 2011: 97% had access to internet
In 2012: 100% of public high school will have internet access. The 3% with no electricity shall use solar power.
Bravo. Thanks to Private Public partnership particularly the Ayala Foundation. Cheers.
All public high schools to have Internet in 2012
By Niña Calleja
Philippine Daily Inquirer
3:38 am | Tuesday, November 22nd, 2011
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All the public high schools in the country will be connected to the Internet by next year, as the Department of Education brings a private sector-led Internet literacy program into the mainstream.
“It’s not enough that we merely continue building classrooms and toilets… The real revolution in education which has long-term effects can only be done through IT (information technology)” Education Secretary Armin Luistro told reporters after receiving the final report of the Gilas (Gearing up Internet Literacy and Access for Students) project in a ceremony at Dusit Thani hotel in Makati City.
About 300 representatives of the organizations and institutions that took part in the project gathered on Monday as the project was formally ended and was turned over to the DepEd.
Speaking at the ceremony, Jaime Augusto Zobel de Ayala, chairman and CEO of Ayala Corp. and cochairman of the Gilas project, said some 4.4 million students in 3,306 public high schools throughout the country now had access to cyberspace.
The project also trained 13,538 teachers to be competent in Internet-assisted instruction.
Ayala recalled that before Gilas was launched in 2005, bringing computers and the Internet to the public schools was merely a “ proposition and a dream,” as only six percent of what was then 5,443 public schools were connected to the Internet.
“Today it is no longer simply a proposition, it is no longer just a dream. The dream has become reality for millions of our Filipino students,” Zobel said.
Luistro said the DepEd has allocated P1.8 billion in 2012 to complete the Internet connectivity in the public schools.
So far, 97 percent of all public high schools have computers and 68 percent have Internet access.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/98247/all-public-high-schools-to-have-internet-in-2012
RonnieR November 22nd, 2011, 06:19 PM Philippine education ranked 'poor'
By Max V. de Leon, Business Mirror
Posted at 06/15/2011 6:51 AM | Updated as of 06/15/2011 10:17 AM
Why am I not surprised?
You are posting an old article here dated June 15, 2011. Are you desperate in propagating bad news? There was an improvement in our educational system! Are you hurt that GMA is in disgrace now? Pathetic.
Ady001 November 23rd, 2011, 02:57 AM This is something that we should be proud:
In 2005: Only 6% of public high schools had internet access
In 2011: 97% had access to internet
In 2012: 100% of public high school will have internet access. The 3% with no electricity shall use solar power.
Bravo. Thanks to Private Public partnership particularly the Ayala Foundation. Cheers.
All public high schools to have Internet in 2012
By Niña Calleja
Philippine Daily Inquirer
3:38 am | Tuesday, November 22nd, 2011
8 share155 145
All the public high schools in the country will be connected to the Internet by next year, as the Department of Education brings a private sector-led Internet literacy program into the mainstream.
“It’s not enough that we merely continue building classrooms and toilets… The real revolution in education which has long-term effects can only be done through IT (information technology)” Education Secretary Armin Luistro told reporters after receiving the final report of the Gilas (Gearing up Internet Literacy and Access for Students) project in a ceremony at Dusit Thani hotel in Makati City.
About 300 representatives of the organizations and institutions that took part in the project gathered on Monday as the project was formally ended and was turned over to the DepEd.
Speaking at the ceremony, Jaime Augusto Zobel de Ayala, chairman and CEO of Ayala Corp. and cochairman of the Gilas project, said some 4.4 million students in 3,306 public high schools throughout the country now had access to cyberspace.
The project also trained 13,538 teachers to be competent in Internet-assisted instruction.
Ayala recalled that before Gilas was launched in 2005, bringing computers and the Internet to the public schools was merely a “ proposition and a dream,” as only six percent of what was then 5,443 public schools were connected to the Internet.
“Today it is no longer simply a proposition, it is no longer just a dream. The dream has become reality for millions of our Filipino students,” Zobel said.
Luistro said the DepEd has allocated P1.8 billion in 2012 to complete the Internet connectivity in the public schools.
So far, 97 percent of all public high schools have computers and 68 percent have Internet access.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/98247/all-public-high-schools-to-have-internet-in-2012
OK sana kung closed lang yung connection para filtered yung info.
Hmmm... 100%, all dial-up siguro...
Parchie November 23rd, 2011, 03:10 AM OK sana kung closed lang yung connection para filtered yung info.
IMHO, it's doable now! I happened to have worked before with an international company and they did have a web dedicated for all of its subsidiary companies around the world. Our government can install hubs on each school and link those to a big central server.
Maybe, just maybe, that way our education think tanks can edit those reference materials that are full of wrong data, false info, etc.
Ady001 November 23rd, 2011, 03:12 AM ^^ Maybe our resident jester amigo32 could tell us a bit more about it.
amigo32 November 23rd, 2011, 03:37 AM ^^ Maybe our resident jester amigo32 could tell us a bit more about it.
tsee:D
Intranet tawag doon sa mga malalaking kumpanya na may sariling content, share ng resources/documents, o panloob lamang na internet.
paglabas internet na yun
puede rin filter/block all non-school/education related websites?
facebook is educational, porno is educational, :lol::lol::lol:
ang puede lang ata i block ay yung tinatawag na wiki na puno ng false info:lol:
Parchie November 23rd, 2011, 05:59 AM tsee:D
Intranet tawag doon sa mga malalaking kumpanya na may sariling content, share ng resources/documents, o panloob lamang na internet.
paglabas internet na yun
puede rin filter/block all non-school/education related websites?
facebook is educational, porno is educational, :lol::lol::lol:
ang puede lang ata i block ay yung tinatawag na wiki na puno ng false info:lol:
Hehehe. Meron po akong faysbuk! Saan ba yang educational mong "porno" na yan?
amigo32 November 23rd, 2011, 06:05 AM Hehehe. Meron po akong faysbuk! Saan ba yang educational mong "porno" na yan?
ex:
how to satsify your sex partner/s
to learn different sizes, lengths, curves.
dyan pa lang get educated ka na. pm ko na lang ang mga websayts:lol:
xxxriainxxx November 23rd, 2011, 07:27 AM ex:
how to satsify your sex partner/s
to learn different sizes, lengths, curves.
dyan pa lang get educated ka na. pm ko na lang ang mga websayts:lol:
hindi naman yata porn yan. :D
Parchie November 23rd, 2011, 07:51 AM hindi naman yata porn yan. :D
Aba! Aba! Aba! Meron ka ring alam na websayts? Hehehehe
Ady001 November 23rd, 2011, 07:54 AM ^^ Well, there's a thin line between porn and sex education. Yung S.E. is theory while Porn can be application... :D
Anyhow, going back to the thread.
(Some of you may hate antipinoy, but then...)
Free Education or Affordable Education?
We had a discussion on the DISMAL STATE of Philippine Education in the AP Crowd on Facebook. The underlying sentiment among most Pinoys is to increase public spending on education. In a previous life, I would have agreed to increase funding for public education – even nationalize it. My excuse would be – I was young, I had a heart, and I was stupid.
However, having seen the pathetic state of any undertaking that involves government or the Philippine government for that matter – I have changed my conclusion – and now prefer to use my head without prejudice to compassion. The main argument for “Free” public education is because the poor can’t afford it let’s make education “free”.
Is there such a thing as “Free” Education?
However, how can public education be “free” – when the salaries of teachers and the DepEd bureaucrats and all their expenses – are paid for by taxpayers’ money? Clearly “free” public education is not “free” – it is paid for by withholding taxes taken from employees payrolls, sales taxes, government fees, clearance fees – and all the buffets of fees and taxes that government can get away with. Then to add insult to injury – legislators and their minions congregate and rip off taxpayers’ money. At the moment there’s no way of tracing it because vested interests in government put up road blocks against any attempts at transparency. Obviously the Senators believe that Filipinos are stupid enough to fall for the anti-epal bill instead of passing the FOIA – and you know what, they are right – the fact that these crooks and nutcases wind up as Senators and Congressmen, Mayors, Governors, and President, is proof enough of Pinoy stupidity.
When public education winds up with millions of stupid Filipinos who know nothing except to be freeloading mendicants – something is amiss – not just public education but in the entire Philippine educational system.
http://antipinoy.com/free-education-or-affordable-education/
Public schools need more money
IT used to be that a good education meant a ticket out of poverty. For a lot of people that hope still rings true, but unfortunately those who need a good education the most are the ones who can’t afford it.
Budget Secretary Florencio Abad said that Philippine education is in “deep crisis” when he met with heads of state universities and colleges (SUCs) in the Cordillera and Ilocos regions recently.
http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/opinion/columnist1/11789-public-schools-need-more-money
Ady001 November 23rd, 2011, 07:57 AM And perhaps one striking article:
I was a Teacher… And I quit.
I am a teacher. Or at least “was” a teacher. I quit. I felt so guilty, I quit.
There’s something wrong with the system, the Philippine education system. Will it change? Hope looks so bleak right now.
I graduated cum laude from my Education degree. I was so happy. Wasn’t hard to land a job, my credentials were good. I started with low pay, I didn’t mind, I was just happy.
I gave it my all. Some students listened, listened well. Some are… how can I say… “hard headed, pain in the butt brats.”Pardon me for lack of nicer words.
But they do make your day exciting though. If it were all just silent, dedicated, ”A” students always, days becomes a bit boring. Pardon me again.
Everything started out nice. But as years went by, I became one of them. “Them” who’ve I’ve dreaded. “Them” who I never wanted to be. But talking to them, working with them, day in and day out, I felt like some part (maybe a lot) of them sniveled their way inside of me.
You know who I’m talking about. “Those” teachers. Those teachers who became numb human beings, never caring for students… those poor students. Teachers drunk with power, taking out life’s problems, life’s stresses, to the students… those poor students.
http://definitelyfilipino.com/blog/2011/11/21/i-was-a-teacher-and-i-quit/
Parchie November 23rd, 2011, 08:11 AM The Law and Education
You say: "There are persons who lack education," and you turn to the law. But the law is not, in itself, a torch of learning which shines its light abroad. The law extends over a society where some persons have knowledge and others do not; where some citizens need to learn, and others can teach. In this matter of education, the law has only two alternatives: It can permit this transaction of teaching-and-learning to operate freely and without the use of force, or it can force human wills in this matter by taking from some of them enough to pay the teachers who are appointed by government to instruct others, without charge. But in this second case, the law commits legal plunder by violating liberty and property. - The Law (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html)
Which one is better? The first or the latter?
Ady001 November 23rd, 2011, 08:18 AM ^^ Makes me think about "Ignorance of the law excuses no one."
xxxriainxxx November 23rd, 2011, 12:23 PM Aba! Aba! Aba! Meron ka ring alam na websayts? Hehehehe
Marami. dati. Until nainfect ang computer ko at nagcrash. HAHA. Never again!:lol::lol::lol:
Parchie November 24th, 2011, 06:57 AM ^^ Makes me think about "Ignorance of the law excuses no one."
I was just posting a portion of a very old paper from a French economic journalist and thinker, Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850). That clip supports your mention of education as being "not" free and how it relates to government actions. Nowhere have I found so clear truths that cannot be ignored,and it is still applicable these days.
ErekShawn November 25th, 2011, 05:50 AM iG9CE55wbtY
RonnieR November 28th, 2011, 11:01 AM http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2011/11/1128lasalle-samsung01.jpg
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2011/11/1128lasalle-samsung03.jpg
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2011/11/1128lasalle4.jpg
La Salle Green Hills classrooms go high-tech
By Stephen Norries A. Padilla
Philippine Daily Inquirer
8:51 pm | Sunday, November 27th, 2011
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TEACHER May Buenaobra and her fifth grade honors class at LSGH go digital with Samsung e-board and tablets. Photo by RODEL ROTONI
A teacher conducting a class with a touchscreen board and students using digital tablets as textbook, notebook or test pad may seem like a scene in a futuristic movie, but it is a reality now.
The even bigger surprise is that it is happening right here.
La Salle Green Hills (LSGH) has partnered with Samsung Electronics Philippines Corp. (Sepco) to turn old classrooms into high-technology zones.
Tech-savvy fifth graders of LSGH’s star section demonstrated electronic learning using a digital personal learning device, nicknamed Pearl, and an electronic board or e-board. Anequally tech-savvy teacher facilitated the demonstration.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/101439/la-salle-green-hills-classrooms-go-high-tech
Ady001 November 28th, 2011, 11:37 AM ^^ Buti pa sila may ganun na... pero yung iba kulang na kulang pa din sa classroom...
william :D November 28th, 2011, 01:33 PM ^^ may $$$ sila eh. sana lang makaabot man lang sa standards ang public schools sa bansa natin. last Civil Engineer Board Exam halos lahat sa State Universities nagmula ang top 10 which is good. konting effort pa para sa mga nasa gobyerno natin.
si Jun Lozada ba yung nasa picture? anong ginagawa niya dun?:lol:
ten (10) highest places in the November
2011 Civil Engineer Licensure Examination
1 BENJIE TALAN PANTINO
CATANDUANES STATE COLLEGES VIRAC
98.05
2 BENJAMES TENERIFE GO
CATANDUANES STATE COLLEGES VIRAC
97.35
3 JOSEPH MALICDEM CABURNAY
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES-LOS BAÑOS
97.00
GLENN ANGELO ENDAYA GALANO
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES-LOS BAÑOS
97.00
JERWIN DE LEON RENDON
CATANDUANES STATE COLLEGES VIRAC
97.00
4 RAY-ANN TORALBA HOSEÑA
TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES-MANILA
96.75
5 ARIEL BALBUENA PANOREL
BULACAN STATE UNIVERSITY (FOR.BCAT)-MALOLOS
96.65
6 RAJIV ELDON EQUIPADO ABDULLAH
UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS
96.30
ELVIN BERNARDO CRUZ
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES DILIMAN
96.30
KATHLEENE GRACE ORDOÑA DADERO
POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES-MAIN-STA. MESA
96.30
JESTONI DE GUZMAN DE LEON
BULACAN STATE UNIVERSITY (FOR.BCAT)-MALOLOS
96.30
DARYL CALIBAYAN PAMA
ATENEO DE DAVAO UNIVERSITY
96.30
7 JESSON JAMES CABAEL
COLUMBAN COLLEGE-OLONGAPO CITY
95.60
JAMES PIOC LACIA
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES-LOS BAÑOS
95.60
8 BRIAN ESPARRAGO BAUTISTA
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES DILIMAN
95.25
RUEL DATINGUINOO CATAPANG
DIVINE WORD COLLEGE OF CALAPAN
95.25
EDUARDO DE CASTRO CRUZ JR
BULACAN STATE UNIVERSITY (FOR.BCAT)-MALOLOS
95.25
ANGELO CAMA GARCIA
TECHNOLOGICAL INSTITUTE OF THE PHILIPPINES-QUEZON CITY
95.25
JOSE EGUNA PAGARAN JR
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES-LOS BAÑOS
95.25
ELDRIN COSTES QUIAMBAO
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES-LOS BAÑOS
95.25
9 CARLO SANTOS GRAGAS
BULACAN STATE UNIVERSITY (FOR.BCAT)-MALOLOS
95.00
10 LORETO CRUZ PAZ
UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS 94.90
http://prcboardresult.blogspot.com/2011/11/top-10-november-2011-civil-engineer.html
rawr November 28th, 2011, 02:32 PM ^^ ahem..si Jun Lozada po ay isa sa mga primary idealist ng concept na yan...accdg to the tv news shown earlier.
william :D November 30th, 2011, 12:13 AM ^^ ah okay okay. di ko kasi binasa yung buong article sa link, yung nakapost lang ang nabasa ko. haha :lol: thanks
HANG_tod November 30th, 2011, 04:57 PM La Salle schools ay pioneering talaga sa lahat ng IT sa buong bansa, ang laki ng tuition, ang laki ng advantage at ang laki ng future ng bawat studyante sa LSGH or sa La Salle philippines
HANG_tod November 30th, 2011, 04:59 PM nakakatuwa, top 3 from CSU-Virac, maliit na university,nasa isla pa.
ang top notcher ay katulong ang ina at magsasaka ang ama,ano pa nga ba ang gagawin ng Mapua,UST,adamson,TIP,UP? nasa bata ang talino wala sa paaralan
Parchie December 1st, 2011, 02:07 AM nakakatuwa, top 3 from CSU-Virac, maliit na university,nasa isla pa.
ang top notcher ay katulong ang ina at magsasaka ang ama,ano pa nga ba ang gagawin ng Mapua,UST,adamson,TIP,UP? nasa bata ang talino wala sa paaralan
Hindi siguro dun ang tanong kung anong dapat gagawin sa mga universities! Ang dapat managot ay ang CHED. Ang analysis ng CHED at DepEd ay ituloy ang K+12. Siguro sasabihin nila na yung mga bata na hindi man lang nakapag Prep o kinder dyan sa Virac ay pwedeng pang mag excel sa licensure exam at tataas pa ang performance kung ganyan ang gagawin! :weird::weird::weird:
Ady001 December 1st, 2011, 03:32 AM ^^ That happens in one in every, what, 400,000 Filipinos? As what I've said, different strokes for different folks. One cannot be expected to learn as fast as the other.
carlsant December 1st, 2011, 04:04 AM Education is the key to success. Without a education you have nothing in this world. I hope that education system in the Philippines will be more dynamic it would help students develop skills that prepare them for the marketplace and I'm looking forward that one day our Diploma will be recognized on other country many Filipino thinks that "wala nmn kwenta kahit mag aral ka dito kase pag dating mo sa ibang bansa katulong ka namn din " its really degrading on our end....
Parchie December 1st, 2011, 04:07 AM ^^ That happens in one in every, what, 400,000 Filipinos? As what I've said, different strokes for different folks. One cannot be expected to learn as fast as the other.
Precisely so. The idea is that good value formation does wonders. Do you think it was easy work for those who were at a disadvantage? Tiyaga tayo at talagang may nilaga, yun ang sabi. Nasa high-end na school na nga, di man inaatupag ang studies. The children mirror its attitudes to the surrounding they are in. Ang mali, pag palaging ginagawa ng mga matatanda ay naging tama sa murang isip ng mga bata! Look around us, mas sikat pa ang mga mapagkunwari kesa nagbabanat ng buto! Kikita ka pag showbiz ka, pwede kang maging presidente, senador, congressman at iba pa!
I don't want to believe we are a damaged society, though lots of indicators tell us it is going that way. So sad.
Officialdmcileasing December 1st, 2011, 06:15 AM Education is the key to success. Without a education you have nothing in this world. I hope that education system in the Philippines will be more dynamic it would help students develop skills that prepare them for the marketplace and I'm looking forward that one day our Diploma will be recognized on other country many Filipino thinks that "wala nmn kwenta kahit mag aral ka dito kase pag dating mo sa ibang bansa katulong ka namn din " its really degrading on our end....
Though marami rin namang Pilipino ang nakakagamit nang pinag aralan nila. But I must agree na kelangan ng improvement sa mga itinuturo sa schools. Para naman we would look more competitive sa mga ibang bansa.
the glimpser December 8th, 2011, 01:41 PM From the same guy that popularized the solar light bulb..
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sulong December 8th, 2011, 04:43 PM ^^ Wow, creative and resourceful. A laudable effort.
urban Iegend December 8th, 2011, 06:33 PM hinde ata yan pwede sa mga lugar na madalas tamaan ng lindol
Ady001 December 14th, 2011, 03:35 AM Finally... they walked the walk and talked the talk:
Incoming high school freshmen to become Grade 7 next year
By Rainier Allan Ronda (The Philippine Star)
MANILA, Philippines - The Department of Education (DepEd) will implement the K+12 basic education program in academic year 2012-2013, starting with the conversion of first year high school to Grade 7.
Education Secretary Armin Luistro said a curriculum had been created for Grade 7.
The K+12 basic education plan consists of kindergarten, six years of elementary education, four years of junior high school (Grade 7 to 10), and two years of senior high school.
“In 2012, we will begin using the new curriculum for Grade 1 and Grade 7 (first year of junior high school),” Luistro said in a forum at the Heritage Hotel the other day.
“The curriculum is almost complete for these two levels and we will soon begin preparing our teachers.”
He said that after the initial implementation, the department will continue to work on the “building blocks” of the program which are: Curriculum Transition Management, Financial Resources, Legal Framework.
“We will also continue our consultations so everyone can understand the need for reform,” he said.
DepEd will also address the deficiencies in the public kindergarten schools established this school year.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=758197&publicationSubCategoryId=63
RonnieR December 15th, 2011, 04:34 AM Finally... they walked the walk and talked the talk:
Hail, hail, hail, DEPED Armin Luistro. :cheers:
Ady001 December 15th, 2011, 04:38 AM ^^ I hope he succeeds... Sana ganituhin din nila yung RH Bill, parang mawawala bigla pero, AYUN! TA-DA!
xxxriainxxx December 15th, 2011, 12:11 PM Wow. GOOD JOB. Hayan ang tunay na TUWID NA DAAN! :cheers:
RonnieR December 15th, 2011, 12:16 PM ^^ I hope he succeeds... Sana ganituhin din nila yung RH Bill, parang mawawala bigla pero, AYUN! TA-DA!
Wow. GOOD JOB. Hayan ang tunay na TUWID NA DAAN! :cheers:
DEPED is truly an agent for change for a better PH. Not much "praise release" but the Secretary is a "man of action". :cheers:
xxxriainxxx December 15th, 2011, 12:41 PM ^^ Now they should start improving the quality of education - correct the erroneous textbooks, train teachers better, and stop cutting funding for SCUs.
Parchie December 15th, 2011, 08:33 PM Some parents rue extra school years for kids
abs-cbnNEWS.com (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/12/15/11/some-parents-rue-extra-school-years-kids)
MANILA, Philippines - Some parents are complaining about the Department of Education's (DepEd) K+12 program that will add 2 more school years for students.
Heidi Ubando, a single mom of 5, had to stop sending one of her children to school due to budget constraints.
Thus, she was dismayed to hear of the additional 2 years added to the high school level, be it private or public.
"Dagdag gastos po iyan," she said.
The DepEd will implement the K+12 program for the next school year.
High school will comprise 6 years for those starting their freshman year in June.
First year high school will now be grade 7, while the third and fourth years of high school are grades 9 and 10, or junior high.
Senior high will include the additional 2 levels of grades 11 and 12.
Senior high students can choose their area of specialization, whether academic, technical-vocational, sports, or the arts.
xxxriainxxx December 16th, 2011, 07:15 AM ^^ Dagdag gastos, pero in the long run, mas maganda sa kinabukasan ng mga bata yan.
Parchie December 16th, 2011, 07:28 AM Stop the K+12 folly (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=755961)(The Freeman) Updated December 07, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (2)
Rep. Mariano Piamonte Jr. of the A Teacher partylist is leading a public hearing in Cebu today by the House committee on basic education and culture, primarily to gather inputs on the K+12 Basic Education Program which the government of President Aquino wants to implement.
It is not clear why Piamonte still finds the need for a public hearing when the Aquino government has shown it is hell-bent on implementing the useless program, unmindful of the wide opposition it has been getting.
The Aquino government is not beyond fabricating stories just to support its imposition. Sometime ago, the education secretary announced “overwhelming support” for the K+12 program based kuno on nationwide consultations the DepEd conducted.
But ask the media if they had been aware of any such consultation. The first time the media heard anything of such consultation was on the day Armin Luistro announced the results. Worse for the Cebuanos, Luistro claimed Central Visayas gave the most overwhelming support.
That is a big fat lie. If ever there was any consultation at all, it must have been done in secret, and involved only DepEd personnel, where naturally everyone is expected to throw in their support lest they lose their jobs.
For the information of Piamonte, since he is said to be the principal author of K+12 (his faxed invitation to the hearing indicated “K to 12” which is not a very reassuring sign), the K+12 program is not what this country needs at this time.
We cannot implement it if our only reason for doing so is because our neighbors are doing the same. We simply cannot compare ourselves to them. If it means anything to Piamonte, even our country’s top universities are way outside the pale of the region’s top learning institutions.
We can stretch basic education to not just 12 but 25, but if we are not ready for it, it will only blow up in our faces. Let us not try to be what we cannot be at the moment. Hypocrisy and education do not go together. Let us improve the quality of education first.
If our teachers cannot speak straight English or do not know the capital of Antique, if we do not have enough classrooms, if the staff of Piamonte do not even know if it is K+12 or K to 12, how can you expect two more years of the same poor quality achieve excellence?
Comments:
oslecjaytan posted on Dec 07, 2011 11:43 AM
k+12 is anti-poor...extending the agony of parents and children. Pahirap ng mamamayan. Majority of parents are not agreeable on this.
boybogets posted on Dec 07, 2011 09:15 AM
The reason for this is they did not know the real sittuation of poor filipino people and the people behind this came from rich families that cant able to differentiate between studying in Public School and private school this issue is very simple improve the quality of education in our public shool that can compete the private school or find ways to improve the lives of filipinos so that they can afford to send their children in expensive high standard school or lastly change the education secretary replace him with the real person who understand the real situation in our eduaction system. In short the author of this bill is ogob
Be my guest!
xxxriainxxx December 16th, 2011, 07:45 AM In a poorer country like Vietnam, they have K+12. Poverty isn't an excuse. We should have our education level at least acceptable to an international standard.
xxxriainxxx December 16th, 2011, 07:47 AM Btw re article: input not 'inputs' unless a verb. input is a uncountable noun. More reason for K+12.
Ady001 December 16th, 2011, 08:16 AM K-12 is like a bitter pill to swallow. Pait sa simula ngunit nakagagaling talaga.
Isa lang ang gusto ko dito. Wala nang debate-debate pa. Implement kaagad. May mga panukalang common sense lang talaga ang kailangan.
skywalker2008 December 16th, 2011, 08:19 AM Some parents rue extra school years for kids
abs-cbnNEWS.com (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/12/15/11/some-parents-rue-extra-school-years-kids)
Also, one of the major challenges in this program is the institutional absorption of the additional 2 years of senior high. Private stakeholders on higher education are preparing for an enrol-less scenario wherein there will be 2 years of lag in freshmen admission. It is good if the school offers a complete educational package (e.g. pre-school to college) like the DLSU System where Sec. Aromin came from. But how about those that have college students only?
University professors are aware of this and they already have contingency plans for the worst case scenario come SY2016-2017 - Codename: "Goodbye Philippines!"
My unsolicited proposal to DepEd, just to cushion its impact, is to at least have the transition in 2 phases. That is, for SY2017-2018 students will be allowed to graduate in a 5-year high school (e.g. it will be K11). Then the next batch will have the full K12 so that the net loss on the tertiary level will only be equivalent to 1 year instead of 2 years.
IMHO.
Parchie December 16th, 2011, 08:27 AM Btw re article: input not 'inputs' unless a verb. input is a uncountable noun. More reason for K+12.
Hehehe. Am really sorry for the journalist who prepared that report! Or should I not? Nice to split nano-size fibers here!
Non-technical usages, yes, you are correct. "Though the usage of the word is well established, care should be taken not to use the word merely as a way to imply an unwarranted scientific precision."
FYI, the word has grown out of its original usage. Ever wonder why scientists use the word "inputs" referring to computer sensing and data gathering?
Am I correct to assume you want to let those scientists pass your K+12 to get let them learn your own idea of how mundane words mean?
skywalker2008 December 16th, 2011, 08:38 AM ^^
"Classes will dull your mind, destroy the potential for authentic creativity."
-John Nash, A Beautiful Mind
Parchie December 16th, 2011, 09:11 AM ^^
"Classes will dull your mind, destroy the potential for authentic creativity."
-John Nash, A Beautiful Mind
Agree. Nothing can beat that, IMO!
And the reason is? "WE WERE TOLD NOTHING BUT CONFORMITY TO NORMS!"
How could a tree grow tall when you placed it on a planter? Its roots are confined.
How can a bird learn new flying tricks when you placed her in a cage? The Shackling cage!
How can a child be creative when their hands get smitten every time he/she does something new?
How can a sedentary form of instruction ever enliven progressive thinking?
OtAkAw December 16th, 2011, 11:32 AM ^^(Gasgas na) Experience will always be the best teacher.
xxxriainxxx December 16th, 2011, 12:45 PM Also, I noticed pag magmigrate ang bata sa ibang bansa at galing sa Pinas, they have to do extra year of study.
Dito sa VN andaming students nag aaral sa abroad.
Nabartek December 17th, 2011, 09:46 PM K-12, are they gonna have more time for Math and Science and less subject for the day? Having gone to some school abroad, I think that is what is lacking in Philippine education -- the time for being analytical. Math has the same time as say, English or Filipino or History. Given the nature of the two courses, I think there should be more to have time to analyze problems, not just "memorize" stuff.
On the other hand, the Philippines should widen its courses -- offer astronomy, anthropology, etc as basic courses.
xxxriainxxx December 18th, 2011, 04:56 AM K-12, are they gonna have more time for Math and Science and less subject for the day? Having gone to some school abroad, I think that is what is lacking in Philippine education -- the time for being analytical. Math has the same time as say, English or Filipino or History. Given the nature of the two courses, I think there should be more to have time to analyze problems, not just "memorize" stuff.
On the other hand, the Philippines should widen its courses -- offer astronomy, anthropology, etc as basic courses.
And at least another foreign language aside from English.
b_9904 December 18th, 2011, 01:54 PM Go ako with astronomy... hindi sana ako nag law kung may astronomy or astro-physics dito.
Spanish would be a good second language course or mayhap mandarin.
Nabartek December 18th, 2011, 01:57 PM And at least another foreign language aside from English.
And local languages, too. I'm sure there are many Filipinos who want to learn non-Tagalog languages, too but unless you know someone who speaks the desired language and is willing to teach, it's almost an impossible dream.
Nabartek December 18th, 2011, 01:58 PM Go ako with astronomy... hindi sana ako nag law kung may astronomy or astro-physics dito.
Spanish would be a good second language course or mayhap mandarin.
Astronomy is very fascinating. It may sound "boring" but the subjects covered are very very very interesting. Who knows, offering this might accelerate our R&D :lol:
b_9904 December 18th, 2011, 02:20 PM Astronomy is very fascinating. It may sound "boring" but the subjects covered are very very very interesting. Who knows, offering this might accelerate our R&D :lol:
its not boring... its VERY fascinating (at least for me).
meron sa RTU course offering nito eh teka check ko.
Nabartek December 18th, 2011, 02:26 PM its not boring... its VERY fascinating (at least for me).
meron sa RTU course offering nito eh teka check ko.
maganda sana kung maging required subject siya sa college para naman may say mga Pilipino sa Astronomy. Baka akala pa ng marami eh planet pa rin ang pluto :lol:
anakngpasig December 18th, 2011, 02:30 PM Go ako with astronomy... hindi sana ako nag law kung may astronomy or astro-physics dito.
I think BS Astronomy is offered sa UP Diliman pero if you mean high school, sa mga special science high schools, may basic astronomy course din ata.
b_9904 December 18th, 2011, 02:58 PM I think BS Astronomy is offered sa UP Diliman pero if you mean high school, sa mga special science high schools, may basic astronomy course din ata.
maganda sana kung maging required subject siya sa college para naman may say mga Pilipino sa Astronomy. Baka akala pa ng marami eh planet pa rin ang pluto :lol:
Pluto is no longer a planet. :lol:
Gaano kadami ang graduate per year ng Astronomy sa UP?
anakngpasig December 18th, 2011, 03:30 PM ^^ that I don't know. there are also many programs na UP lang meron sa Pilipinas. pag nagtake ka ng UPCAT, daming weird programs sa mga choices, mga around 250 undergrad programs ata meron sila :D
b_9904 December 18th, 2011, 04:05 PM ^^ that I don't know. there are also many programs na UP lang meron sa Pilipinas. pag nagtake ka ng UPCAT, daming weird programs sa mga choices, mga around 250 undergrad programs ata meron sila :D
hahaha... madami nga sila courses pero... kulang sa promotion.
rawr December 18th, 2011, 04:37 PM May tinatayong Environmental Science and Meteorology building sa UP. Therefore may at least dalawang bagong undergrad programs ang i-ooffer in the future.
Nabartek December 18th, 2011, 09:48 PM This is an interesting article. I do not agree with some of his points and suggestion but still, it is interesting
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/241857/opinion/blogs/my-journey-with-my-mother-tongue
My journey with my mother tongue
Howie Severino December 16, 2011 10:41am
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I reconnected with my mother tongue at the age of 13 and we’ve had a love-hate relationship ever since. She abandoned me when I moved as a child with my family to the United States. I came home to the Philippines as an English-speaking teenager who was teased for his mispronunciations of Tagalog words. I became withdrawn. I hated not being able to speak Tagalog; I wanted so much to belong. In Tarlac, they speak Kapampangan, Ilocano, Pangasinense and Tagalog. In Benguet -- there is Ilocano, Kankanaey, Kalangoya, Ibaloi. It is more complicated in Baguio where people from different parts of the country had immigrated (the growing Muslim-Maranao population is a testament)
At Ateneo High School, I had the great fortune of being taught what was then called Pilipino by the great Onofre Pagsanghan. From him I learned the basics. I could finally converse and use the language in public without everyone noticing my twang. I even acted in a few Tagalog school plays. But my writing in Tagalog was still stilted, I found it difficult explaining complex matters in the language, and my vocabulary was pathetic.
Then I went back to America for college and my progress in mastering my mother tongue virtually stopped. Instead, I was recognized at my American university for my proficiency in their native language. I was among the few freshmen who were given exemptions from Freshman English after an exam.
When I came home, I taught English at my old high school and aspired to be a journalist. I was arrested at an anti-Marcos rally and falsely accused of leading the crowd in chants in Tagalog, which quickly became a joke among activists who knew me. My lawyers defended me by saying that I couldn’t even speak Tagalog, which wasn’t entirely true. But my Tagalog was certainly not activist-quality.
When I became a full-time journalist, I felt lucky to be in the profession in the Philippines and one reason was this: It hardly mattered that I had not mastered my mother tongue, because I was proficient in English, the only language that seemed to matter. The Philippines is perhaps the only country where a native journalist can do well without being very proficient in writing in his native language. When I started out, nearly the entire news media was in English; only tabloids that no one respected were in Filipino.
The news media seemed like a bludgeon to enforce a system of linguistic apartheid in the Philippines, where only those proficient in English, still an incomprehensible foreign language to many, could participate in national conversations about public policies and social injustice. Everyone else had Kuwentong Kutsero and other entertainment.
Non-fiction TV switches to Filipino
Then I joined “The Probe Team,” a TV magazine show in English, at the cusp of great change in mass media. Upon my return to the country in the 1980s and into the mid 1990s, nearly all of the news and public affairs programming on Philippine television was in English.
But in the late 1990s, as the English-speaking elite began to subscribe to cable TV and after noticing that much of “Probe”’s competition was switching to Filipino to widen their audiences, I lobbied for the switch too, even if that meant a great disadvantage for a journalist whose comfort zone was English.
I insisted on writing my own scripts in Filipino, as awkward as these were in the beginning. Voicing these scripts was nearly as torturous, forcing production assistants to endure multiple takes and long sessions in the voicing room. But I knew this was the only way to learn, and the psychic rewards soon came.
One of my first TV stories in Filipino was about land inequality in the Bondoc peninsula in Quezon province, and the killings of farmers who advocated land reform. This secluded part of Quezon is among the poorest places in the country, populated by native Tagalog speakers. Despite the script’s clunkiness, I think that I was understood by that audience, the first time as a journalist that I felt I had truly connected to a mass audience.
Soon after, I wrote and voiced in Filipino a documentary about the struggle for ancestral domain in the deep south of Palawan, again a region of native Tagalog speakers, many of whom had never gone to school. I realized then that television was a tool for educating even the illiterate, if you could just communicate in their language. Despite having very different backgrounds, we were united by the same tongue.
That documentary was invited for screening at a festival in Japan for which it had to be subtitled. When it was shown to a foreign audience, it gave me the feeling that my work was representing my culture in a way that none of my work in English could ever achieve.
Today, more than ten years later, I rarely speak or write in English for television. I am almost purely a broadcast journalist in Filipino. I still have a long way to go before I can say I have mastered the language. But my struggle to learn the language enough to communicate stories to a mass audience whose mother tongue is Filipino has made me feel whole and in touch with my roots and heritage. The struggle has made me feel proud and even authentic.
In addition, widening my vocabulary and learning the nuances of my mother tongue have unlocked doors to deeper knowledge about my culture and identity. It has plainly made me feel like a better and more well-rounded person.
For all the criticism of television, it is the one medium that we can call the bonfire in our national village, where the Filipino language is the fire under the melting pot, if you will excuse the mixed metaphor.
There are forces still anchoring us to a colonial mentality where proficiency in the colonizer’s language is a vital measure of one’s worth. But television professionals can feel proud that at least in the realm of language, we are providing a countervailing force.
Filipino language in public spaces
There are still many arenas where we can use language to develop our culture, cultivate pride, and even just to clarify to ourselves who we are.
President Aquino has set a new tone by insisting that all his major speeches be in Filipino, including a memorably eloquent inaugural address that popularized the word “wangwang.” Previous presidents, perhaps with the exception of President Joseph Estrada, rarely gave speeches in Filipino, as if their primary audiences were foreign investors.
Government can take the next step by mandating that agencies use Filipino in public spaces. The airport is an obvious start. One friend who has travelled the world shared his observation that our airport is the only one he has been to where signs are only in English and there were none in any local language, strongly insinuating that we are confused about who we are.
It shouldn’t matter that educated Filipinos are supposed to understand English. The choice of language is a statement of national pride, or its absence, and an expression of our identity. English-only signs communicate that we are mainly interested in informing only foreigners. Besides, there are still Filipino travellers for whom Filipino is still the more functional language, so there is a practical side too to making signs bilingual.
Filipino language as a steamroller
Our confusion, and my angst, about language do not end with our overvaluation of English. Just as a greater devotion to using Filipino can counter our colonial mentality, it could also steamroll our cultural diversity into a homogenous blob.
Tagalog-based Filipino may be my mother tongue, but it is almost as foreign as English to many in a nation of over 70 regional languages.
We have long had a bilingual policy, and aided by television, the school system has given our nation a national native language, taught and at least nominally understood from Batanes to Tawi-Tawi.
But now we must ask ourselves if the bilingual policy, which obliges only English and Filipino to be used in schools, is actually smothering our diversity and making learning more difficult than it has to be.
While shooting a documentary about kulintang music in Maguindanao province a few years ago, I recorded the amazing ability at the instrument of an 11-year-old boy, who said he was taught by elders in his clan.
When I asked him if he ever performed in his school, he said no. Surprised, I asked if his teachers knew that he had such a talent. He also answered in the negative. Then finally I asked what kinds of cultural talents they cultivated at his ethnically mixed public school. He said, Balagtasan. As with other schools, this boy’s school taught him Tagalog-based Filipino but did not teach his mother tongue, Maguindanao.
Mother tongue-based multilingual education
I have nothing against schools teaching the culture of other regions, such as Balagtasan in a predominantly Maguindanao school. That facilitates the development of a national culture that begins with the universal knowledge of a single native language.
But schools must also be used as instruments to keep local cultures alive and well, for diversity is a strength that must not be suppressed by neglect. Public policy already exists to achieve this goal in the mother tongue-based multilingual mandate of the Department of Education, a policy backed by a department order signed in 2009.
Essentially, this policy compels schools to use the mother tongue in their locality as the medium of instruction in at least the first three years of primary education.
But support for local culture has nothing to do with the expressed intent of the policy, and everything to do with learning. International and local studies have shown that cognitive development is more efficient if young children are first taught in their mother tongues. In other words, they become better learners, not just of language but of everything, including math and science.
In the few places where it has been piloted, the mother tongue-based multilingual project has already produced results. In Lubuagan, Kalinga, for example, elementary school students have dramatically improved their performance in standardized tests after just a few years of learning most of their subjects in their native Kalinga language (not dialect, mind you!).
English only?
After decades of a bilingual policy, university professors still lament that many of their students aren’t proficient communicators in English, despite its common use as a medium of instruction. Poor English can even be found engraved in stone, such as the statue of famed newspaper columnist Max Soliven on Roxas Boulevard, which is chock-full of grammatical errors. You can almost hear Max ranting in his grave.
The response of some is to propose even more intensive English instruction, with a bill proposed in Congress that would legislate English as the sole medium of instruction. English-only campuses have mushroomed, their monolingual policy advertised as their main selling point.
But could the lack of English proficiency be rooted in a lack of proficiency in learning? And if the studies cited by linguists are correct, could these deficiencies be better addressed by teaching in the mother tongue in the earliest years of education?
Then learning English, Filipino, and other languages would be more proficient. That’s how it’s done nearly everywhere else.
An emphasis on teaching in the mother tongue would create better learners, instil pride in local culture, and enrich the mother tongues themselves with new teaching materials produced in those languages. With young minds better primed, we might even become better English speakers and writers.
Yes, this shift in language policy will be hard. Just as it was hard for me to relearn my mother tongue. Today, I count my blessings. - KG, GMA News
I don't like how he suggested that Filipino should be mandated in public places. Not all are Tagalog speakers and there are multicultural cities/provinces in the country like Tarlac and Benguet. How will they solve this? Let one local language take over another?
And in my opinion, the deteriorating proficiency in English has more to do with the dwindling environment for it -- because there is a growing propaganda that speaking/learning English(or any foreign language for that matter) is not nationalistic. Being proficient in a language has more to do with environment than "intensive" learning. It's like Math, the more you "use" it, the more you become familiar with it. Also, in addition, is our attitude on laughing at people who make small grammatical mistakes. The deterioration of English is much more serious than lack of "intensive" learning.
I say, when the kids are still young, try to expose them to as many languages as possible. Offer foreign and local language as elective in Elementary up to college. It is much easier to learn a languages and be proficient in it when we are at our younger ages.
mikael21 December 19th, 2011, 02:50 AM From the same guy that popularized the solar light bulb..
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This kind of project, classroom made of recycled plastic bottled materials would definitely help lots of students in providing comfortable and spacious classroom. renewing such waste materials into higher purposes would do open mind for people that we can make a change by being creative in thinking possible solutions.
b_9904 December 19th, 2011, 02:57 AM Nabartek
I understood the gist of what he is trying to say. Its indeed interesting to say the least.
My cousins from Negros are proficient in Bisaya and English but not Filipino. Why? Usage and environment.
Intensifying English in schools may not solve poor English. This is specially true when the teachers themselves are NOT proficient in USING English. Sure, they could teach the rules, syntax, what is a noun, verb, etc but to use it is a different matter.
Despite growing up in Tondo I learned to speak English before I learned Filipino. How? Sesame Street and English movies. I learned English so well that I even had the twang. I could speak the language but I never got around to write in it. However, as time passed my proficiency deteriorated because I was forced to learned Mandarin in school, to communicate in the vernacular in Tondo, and I almost stopped using English.
This mixing and matching of different languages resulted in me never learning Mandarin. My Filipino speaking skill is ok but dont ask me to write in proper Filipino and expect to use the proper syntax, rules, etc., and I am struggling to express myself in WRITTEN English. I could still speak good English but with a neutral accent.
So yeah, usage and environment plays a major part in learning a language but it also plays a major role in NOT learning to be proficient in any language at all. This is especially true if your background is as diverse as mine, and you are not using any base language at all.
Nabartek December 19th, 2011, 03:11 AM Nabartek
I understood the gist of what he is trying to say. Its indeed interesting to say the least.
My cousins from Negros are proficient in Bisaya and English but not Filipino. Why? Usage and environment.
Intensifying English in schools may not solve poor English. This is specially true when the teachers themselves are NOT proficient in USING English. Sure, they could teach the rules, syntax, what is a noun, verb, etc but to use it is a different matter.
Despite growing up in Tondo I learned to speak English before I learned Filipino. How? Sesame Street and English movies. I learned English so well that I even had the twang. I could speak the language but I never got around to write in it. However, as time passed my proficiency deteriorated because I was forced to learned Mandarin in school, to communicate in the vernacular in Tondo, and I almost stopped using English.
This mixing and matching of different languages resulted in me never learning Mandarin. My Filipino speaking skill is ok but dont ask me to write in proper Filipino and expect to use the proper syntax, rules, etc., and I am struggling to express myself in WRITTEN English. I could still speak good English but with a neutral accent.
So yeah, usage and environment plays a major part in learning a language but it also plays a major role in NOT learning to be proficient in any language at all. This is especially true if your background is as diverse as mine, and you are not using any base language at all.
My theory about the "mixing" of languages has more to do with the popularization of Taglish in the 70's or was it 80's? If you look at old romantic and comedy movies, that is how it was.
I know people, the elder ones especially, who can speak different local languages as well as English pretty but they don't seem to mix them
I think the mixing was more of a result that we created an environment of "mixing" rather than real multilingualism...and a failure to teach proper Tagalog/Filipino in schools. Filipino is schools, it's like just parroting some stuff. But get a grammar book made for non-Filipinos, you will learn how Tagalog and perhaps other languages work.
But don't be swayed, these are merely my observations and theories.
manies_flip December 19th, 2011, 05:30 AM There's going to be a 7th grade now in the philippines... so thats good!
Parchie December 19th, 2011, 06:17 AM Good for whom?
coffeeworld December 19th, 2011, 06:58 AM AYAW KO NG K12 gusto ko na mag college!!!!
kenken94 December 19th, 2011, 07:01 AM ^^ I'm for K12.
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