After 500 replies , its time for a part 2 :)


To go to part 1

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?=99407

Frankfurt is the future:D.
On this picture U can see just a small part of the growing skyline:

http://hometown.aol.de/DAForum2/skyline/afeneu.JPG.jpg

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So... another picturethread?

Rotterdam city centre (by Jan)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/database/buildings.02/2851.jpg

Rotterdam Kop van Zuid (by Airbreaker) (eventually there will be build 7 150 m. towers on the pier)

http://members.lycos.nl/kranen/compangie/vliegdek.jpg

^ Are these cities or boroughs? :lol:

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=100460&aid=3&sro=46

N train to Brooklyn, Prince Street is next. Stand clear the closing doors. :cool:

Oh, mind you they are just down the river from each other. (#1 is just to the right of #2 on the second pic)

ISTANBUL,Maslak Business District 19.10.2004

http://wowturkey.com/tr29/k_Kerem1979_113_1315.jpg
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Great shot of Maslak! It's getting more dense as the days go by!
I remember an older picture taken from the same spot, quite a while ago.
Perhaps we can compare the two...

I think some building really really suck.

Does anyone have renderings of Frankfurt in the future? I rememeber seeing some a long time ago here, but can't find them now. They showed most of the city, and included a lot of proposed/approved towers. In front was the area with the new € coin hotel...

before (summer)
http://dunyaturk.com/tr17/MeReK_IMGP4801.jpg
after (summer)
http://wowturkey.com/tr29/Kerem1979_113_1315.jpg

Does anyone have renderings of Frankfurt in the future? I rememeber seeing some a long time ago here, but can't find them now. They showed most of the city, and included a lot of proposed/approved towers. In front was the area with the new € coin hotel...

Hi mlm,
i think u mean this picture:

http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/7686PEJd1/152287.jpg

But unfortunately are lot of those proposed projects are cancelled or postponed due to the dramatic economic situation ( unfortunately ) in Germany.
Here i made a little Picture how the skyline could look in about 10-15 years.
I only stitched in the projects believed to be built.

http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/7686PEJd1/152318.jpg


At the moment we have not really much going on in Frankfurt.
We have the so called Blue Heaven ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=139828) with its 87m, then the westendduo 96m and for sure the zeil project with its 2 towers ( 123m and 90m ), the Maintriangel ( 58m ) in one year for sure the EZB Project. ( up to 180m, final decision about the design will be in november ).

Than in the near future i suppose comes Kaiserkarree ( 135m ), former Zurich Highrise ( now called Tishman Speyer Tower ), renovation of DZ Bank ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=119289 ) , Probably MAX of the german Bank ( well if they did not outsource themselves until that day :D ), Marieninsel a 250m project of Deka Bank.
Tower One ( 211m ) and Tower Two (160m ) by Vivico ( if UEC is buildt, a big shopping and entertainment area) and finally the Highrise at the güterplatz ( 160m )
Millenium Tower is dead. Well there is the allowance by the city to build 375m high but with which investor, name one, haaarrrgghhh:)

Anyway we have a lot of projects but not really highrises.

Well lets hope there are still highrises going to be built in Frankfurt, besides of all envy bad behavior to each other, we highrise fans should be happy about all highrises being built.

Finally i have to say that i think that Frankfurt will be still in the Top Twenty for quite some years, but it will not be the number one anymore.

Good night
P.S. No responsibility on the informations given, and sorry if i forgot one or two projects.

can we have an original of that frankfurt pic please?
im glad frankfurt is still building, but building less than london :)
im afraid for this thread the winners are inevitably london and mosow, and depending on whether you think istanbul is in europe or not that too. we have so many projects coming online now in london its just amazing.

Here u are:

http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/7686PEJd1/152376.jpg
©fwvongoetz@aol.com

On the simulation there are not all proposals viewable due to the perspective.

Gracias newfvgffm, the first one was exactly what I was thinking of:okay:

About the other one, isn't it MAX you have placed just behind Commerzbank to the right? I though that was dead for sure. A real shame since I loved that design, and know a lot of other people feel the same way. Of the remaining ones my favorite tower has to be Urban Entertainment Center 1 (Tower One), I hope we'll see some progress on that soon.

I'm sure the German economy will be back on track sooner or later, and then the towers will start rising faster again in my favorite European skyscraper city:)

YYYYEEEEESSSS!!! Sun Plaza will have a spire on top (look carefully :D)

http://wowturkey.com/tr29/Kerem1979_113_1315.jpg

As I said before though: it would look better with "twin spires" (like Sears Tower or Hancock Building in Chicago)

Oh well - still GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. :)

http://ladefense.free.fr/1/skyline001.jpg

http://ladefense.free.fr/1/skyline002.jpg

Too bad Maslak is way up north (like Canary Wharf)

It would look a lot better closer to the bridges on the Bosphorus (along Sisli, Gayrettepe and Levent)

@ Phil , where exactly on your picture are those twins towers of Levallois going to be built , they must be visible on your picture , I guess

Levent - Istanbul
http://www.istanbulprincess.com/images/genel.jpg
(This one was actually taken in 2002)

Levent District from Bosphorus (Levent is quite left behind the hill)
http://www.worldturkey.com/web/levent03.jpg

Partially Levent and Bosphorus Bridge/Ortaköy Mosque
http://dunyaturk.com/tr16/k_wwwsercande_Bogaz45.jpg Large Image (http://wowturkey.com/t.php?p=http://dunyaturk.com/tr16/wwwsercande_Bogaz45.jpg) http://dunyaturk.com/tr16/k_wwwsercande_Bogaz44.jpg Large Image (http://wowturkey.com/t.php?p=http://dunyaturk.com/tr16/wwwsercande_Bogaz44.jpg)

For more Levent Street photos visit http://www.wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2991

@ Phil , where exactly on your picture are those twins towers of Levallois going to be built , they must be visible on your picture , I guess

I think they would be a little too far to be on these pics. They would be on the right anyway. I think not too far on the right of the second pic.

http://wowturkey.com/tr29/k_Kerem1979_113_13243.jpg
(+) (http://wowturkey.com/tr29/Kerem1979_113_13243.jpg)

beautiful effect with those highbuildings on the hills.

May 2004, Istanbul


http://wowturkey.com/tr29/k_wwwsercande_camlicapano.jpg
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http://wowturkey.com/tr27/Kazandibi_melih_a_istpanaromammm2mp.jpg

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m52.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr16/Kazandibi_leventsuperm2mmmmm.jpg

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m88.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr17/MeReK_IMGP4801.jpg

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m89.jpg

http://wowturkey.com/tr27/Kazandibi_Burc_adadan_7209mmp.jpg

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/ga10.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr19/Kazandibi_memocan_bogaz01mm.jpg

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/a1b.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr19/Kazandibi_Anil_fsm_leventm1.jpg

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m622.jpg

i love Arnold

Madrid in 2007
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/271104A.1.jpghttp://images5.theimagehosting.com/271104B.jpg

I hate that freak...

you shouldnt talk about asimov that way

What has that man got to do with a skyline?

Anyway:

For me it is (although hard to decide, and subject to change):

1. Frankfurt
2. Warsaw
3. Rotterdam
4. Paris
5. Istanbul
6. Benidorm (not beautiful but very dense....)
7. London
8. Moscow
9. Vienna
9. The Hague
10. And I guess that’s it….

WARNING NOT FOR CHILDREN!

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/arnold-schwarzenegger/asnaked02.jpg
Yes - thats Arnold, the cuberner.
hehe-he

Leave that man out, will you! People at work start to think that I am looking at a gay site ;)

http://fotos.ya.com/tomahawk29/ph11000238125601.jpg

Ladies and Gentlemen, i would like to present London.
The key to london is its future potential. Two clusters are already firmly in place and their future development is both assured and exciting. The City will provide exciting and experimental scrapers in its already random road structure. Canary Wharf will strive for a formal super sharp approach contrasting nicely with the former and emphasising London's historic definition as a city of towns and villages. Slowly, a city of cities towns and villages.

After those two already assured clusters, there is the landmark LBT and the southwark cluster, and a huge potential for a future cluster in Stratford city.

I do recognize this thread is comparingtodays state of affairs, but london even in its 'underdeveloped' state is still very competitive.

I apologize in advance for the indiscriminate stealing of these images and i none of these are mine.

The State of the Skyline, it will keep getting better! Remember, there are lots of parts to london which all contribute to London's skyline.

But first, a classical skyline of London :)

http://www.jochen-mengel.de/own/holidays/images/StJames'sPark_HorseGuards_01.jpg

and now the city and scrapers

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/city_night9-01.jpg
A low level view across the river to the dense tops of the city.

http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/cw6.jpg thanks Chest.

http://users.pandora.be/edelbach/canarywharf/canarywharf_136-3687_IMG.jpg
Canary Wharf direct view.

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/1096/l31.jpg

http://www.colinasdelfaro.com/skyscrapers/anniemac.jpg

http://www.tvaerials.net/images/wharfnight.jpg

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/neostorm/Darren/April2004.jpg

http://digicam.co.za/gallery/data/media/66/DSC04102.jpg

http://www.photographyblog.com/gallery/data/521/3CRW_2837.jpg


>>>SCROLL>>> London's skyline interpretation depends on where you view it from, there are some fantastic views that havent made it on to the net yet. Thanks wjfow.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/pano_poster2.jpg
In daylight the river front builds up as curves around the end and there are scrapers planned, still apart of the skyline though.

http://www.terminalterminus.co.uk/Architecture/Photos/London-Nighttime.jpg >>>SCROLL>>>>thanks hedgehog

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/lbt4a.jpg
>>>SCROLL>>>> Apart from LBT, this picture is representative of the current situation if not a bit old. LBT is not built yet. In the future, when Canary Wharf and the city reach new heights, this will be one of the best skyline views anywhere. On top of the two clusters in view, LBT, as pictured willl be soaring apart from both. Thanks to skyscrapernews.com. I wish there were a rendering of this quality of this view with a fully developed city, wharf, and southwark.

These few pics represent the reality of London's future. Thanks to skyscrapernews.com
http://club.nate.com/cindex5/427/askl/18831904/1/29[20041110164131].jpg
A render appropriately depicting the massing of a future City of London.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/wharf_golden2.jpg
London's formal scraper development, 2008, skyscrapernews.com.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/lbt8a.jpg
An underdeveloped view of where LBT will stand, there are already many more buildings here, this will be the alternative to the cities.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/city_of_london2008-01.jpg
From the south, so LBT appears disproportianately dominating, not saying it wont be though.

I hope this wasn't pic overload. I am confident that the future for London's skyline is fantastically bright. It already has loads of low rise foundation and plenty of mid rises to prepare for a bulky and dense city of multiple skylines. It may not be the highest yet, but i think it can be competitively one of the best when all skyline features are taken into account. I haven't been on the forums for a while, but i will work on my top twenty list, i think london is very very high on my list. Hi to all the Uk forum who havent heard form me in a while!!!

wow :eek2:

@ Istanbulians: ;)

yes, you have a high density... but the design of your buildings is, hmmm, ehmmmm, mmmmmhh, bullshit :)
Have a look at La Defense or London ;)

btw:

this one rocks!!! :lol:
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m88.jpg

btw:

this one rocks!!! :lol:
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m88.jpg

Yeah, Hitler would be glad


:rant:
Leave Arnold, it's not a gay site!

It's a few months old, but probably the best skyline shot of Rotterdam ever (doesn't contain the Kop van Zuid)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/database/buildings.02/2851.jpg

(by Jan)

Warsaw

by Konrad

http://members.chello.pl/jmajewski/pan.jpg
http://members.chello.pl/jmajewski/noc.jpg

Warsaw AD 2005 by @markus1234 my new true faith :master:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/hotttt/noc05.jpg

http://fotos.ya.com/tomahawk29/ph11031561733481.jpg

Frankfurt,Paris,Istanbul,Warsaw,London the rest I don't consider as a skyline!

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/0LO9H8IJ8AL7

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/EZ5PH6OOA1PD

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/33MCHDWF960J

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/1PILP44EH627

http://207.44.228.232/images/P0X/3238.jpg (http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3238.jpg)

:clown: :clown:

Frankfurt,Paris,Istanbul,Warsaw,London the rest I don't consider as a skyline!
mmh...do you never saw a pic of Rotterdam?
Super_sniper show us some pics: :D

This pic shows the area around metrostation 'Beurs' in downtown Rotterdam...

http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~gkoning/2412WK.JPG
thx Prologic for this pic!

Moscow 2010
http://img53.exs.cx/img53/1652/moscovo1uq.jpg

Zoveel mooie steden. Madrid, Frankfurt, Londen, Istanbul, Parijs, Moskou, Warschau, Brussel. I love it!

Hier nog wat Rotterdamfoto's.

http://img136.exs.cx/img136/2624/imag00574fv.jpg

http://207.44.228.232/images/P0X/3242.jpg (http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3242.jpg)

http://207.44.228.232/images/P0X/3243.jpg (http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3243.jpg)

http://207.44.228.232/images/P0X/3244.jpg (http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3244.jpg)

click to enlarge. by jan.

Brussels

http://img153.exs.cx/img153/28/BrusselNOORD.jpg
by Masson Xavier (Picture taken from finance tower)

http://img160.exs.cx/img160/2682/Brusselsskyline.jpg
by Masson Xavier

Brussels in 2006
http://img160.exs.cx/img160/3976/Botanique.jpg

buhahahah moscow in 2010 by Smeagol. Of course, everybody belive u ! hahaHAHHAhaha

Some new photos from Warsaw by @Michau
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050102_z_novotelu/z_novotelu_050102_1784.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050102_z_novotelu/z_novotelu_050102_1758.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050102_z_pkinu/z_pkinu_050102_1811.jpg

Lots of cranes in Warsaw! That last picture is awesome.

buhahahah moscow in 2010 by Smeagol. Of course, everybody belive u ! hahaHAHHAhaha

buheh- what a crap - because some of those highrise are U/C .. - just thing before post pablo!

Manchester 2007

Manchester 2007
Cant see the photo? or picture.

Hey Guys. CoolDown and see the Glory of the only REAL SKYLINE in Europe.

Check this Link
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3749

Forum:
www.Deutsches-Architektur-Forum.de

'The City' - London's main financial district:




http://www.skyscrapernews.com/city_night_pano1.jpg

LONDON, stunning and diverse skyine....
It takes number one spot for me, not because of its mass, but because of its character. It feels very much like London. The other European skylines are stunning, and some are much more defined and clustered, in an American sort of way, than London's. I particularly like Frankfurt and Paris, the rest i need to be more acquianted with.

(none of these photos are mine)

The 'City' from the South
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/city_night9-01.jpg

The 'City' from the East
http://homepage.mac.com/benveasey/.Pictures/cw6.jpg

The Wharf from the West approach
http://users.pandora.be/edelbach/canarywharf/canarywharf_136-3687_IMG.jpg

The Wharf from the East approach
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/neostorm/Darren/April2004.jpg

Towards Westminster
http://digicam.co.za/gallery/data/media/66/DSC04102.jpg

City from East, before Swiss re.
http://www.nickwoodphoto.com/media/photos/LONDON/London-City.jpg

Wow, that last one is impressive! But I wasn't really too impressed by the City's skyline when I was in London at the usual spots. Canary Wharf was way more impressive, although the City has more potential as a location in the city centre.

yeah, last one cool... :runaway: looks like typical american downtown...

My list:
1. Frankfurt am Main


2. Paris


3. London


4. Istanbul


5. Warsaw


6. Rotterdam


7. Moscow


8.Vienna


9. Benidorm


10. Madrid

11. Napoli

12. Berlin

13. Barcelona

14. Essen

15. Brussels

16. Vilnius

17. The Hague

18. Birmingham

19. Manchester

20. Lodz (second largest Polish city)


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:hilarious:

this is so wrong :D

Check this out from Frankfurt:

http://www.*****************/pc/pc/cat/2586/display/1411538

Im so suprised Birmingham isnt making it into these lists and Manchester is :( ...

This was the skylien about 4 years ago, tens of buildings have gone up, including the UK's tallest residential outside London, HCT which is inbetween the 2 brownish buildings on the right which are now white, and there is also another 100m tower u/c just to the left on the other side.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/708/490skyline.jpg

:hilarious:

this is so wrong :D
Oh really? Why? Because Tallinn isn't on a first place? :hilarious
Try to make a better list if you can :D

Im so suprised Birmingham isnt making it into these lists and Manchester is :( ...

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/708/490skyline.jpg
Wow, really nice skyline ;)
OK, I added it to my list :D

Wow, really nice skyline ;)
OK, I added it to my list :D

You have good taste ;) :cheers:

Speakerbox: that 100m tower you talk about wouldn't be the 78m Orion tower would it? And please name me just 6 of the 'tens' of towers that have been built that could be seen on that pic (50m+).

Birminghams highest completed occupiable building to date is the 100m tall Alpha Tower. Granted however, it is a nice dense skyline and probably worthy of a top 20 spot.

Speakerbox: that 100m tower you talk about wouldn't be the 78m Orion tower would it? And please name me just 6 of the 'tens' of towers that have been built that could be seen on that pic (50m+).

Birminghams highest completed occupiable building to date is the 100m tall Alpha Tower. Granted however, it is a nice dense skyline and probably worthy of a top 20 spot.

78m was the original height it has since had 2 height increases, first from 22 storeys to 26 now from 26 to 29 with double height penthouse so really 30 floors.

12 storeys plus are what I list for the UK terms.

Birminghams tallest is however 152m the BT Tower :bash:

Jerv i know you might be upset about Manchester being below brum for something but please get over it.

another Birmingham shot but from the industrial wasteland...

http://img117.exs.cx/img117/4346/brumlandscape028kn.jpg

and where is barcelona

and where is barcelona

In Spain

Barcelona doesn`t have a skyline.

London looks at its best from the BT tower

http://www.urban75.org/london/images/telecom18.jpg

Barcelona doesn`t have a skyline.

PARDON ME??
http://tinypic.com/20quk6
Barcelona 2004!!
;)

Originally Posted by DetoX
Barcelona doesn`t have a skyline.


no, no, no Barcelona has a very nice skyline!

this agbar-tower looks fantastic :cheers:
super...

no, no, no Barcelona has a very nice skyline!

this agba-tower looks fantastic :cheers:
super...

Thanks!
One of the most original skylines on Earth, with Sagrada Familia & Agbar Tower.
;)
Not just regular skyscrapers...
:)
And I haven't got any pic of 2005 skyline: Much better!!

yes and the colors are wonderful (a unique building in the world)
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/3562/0191copia0iq.jpg
i wait for the new photos of Barcelona!

i see a big construction between the agbar-towerand the kathedral, which tower is it and how tall? from this angle it looks realy big;)

yes and the colors are wonderful (a unique building in the world)
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/3562/0191copia0iq.jpg
i wait for the new photos of Barcelona!

i see a big construction between the agbar-towerand the kathedral, which tower is it and how tall? from this angle it looks realy big;)

I think it is Torre Mare Nostrum, but I am not really sure... Now it's almost finished! It is very original too. It has got a thread in "Foro de rascacielos españoles".
;)

thanks, i will search there ;)

Another view of Barcelona skyline last Monday 28/2/2005:
http://tinypic.com/217cs9
;)

cool, but a bigger photo would be better ;)
i cant see much details, sorry (have an 1400x1050 monitor )

Parque das Nacoes Lisbon:

http://img98.exs.cx/img98/4131/lxsgabrielsrafael13qq.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Marco77/Projectos_maquetes/UPDATES/pdn_reginocruz.jpg

http://p.vtourist.com/1713397-Parks_and_the_Zoo-Lisbon.jpg

http://p.vtourist.com/110690-Parks_and_the_Zoo-Lisbon.jpg

http://www.strawberry-world-lisbon.com/images/expo_park027.jpg

http://photos.minman.com/europe2001/0221_lisboa/world_expo/lisboa_expo14.JPG

78m was the original height it has since had 2 height increases, first from 22 storeys to 26 now from 26 to 29 with double height penthouse so really 30 floors.

12 storeys plus are what I list for the UK terms.

Birminghams tallest is however 152m the BT Tower :bash:

Jerv i know you might be upset about Manchester being below brum for something but please get over it.

I've got nothing to get over. You are the one making stats up to try to convince these guys that Brum has a great skyline.

152m BT tower is a comms tower.
So are you telling me that orion is now 100m tall? Bullshit. The tallest building in Brum is the under construction Beetham Tower at 122m (130m to those 'spires')

If you are bringing manchester into this argument about false facts, here is a truth: 3 out of the top 4 tallest outside London in the UK are Located in Manchester (171m, 118m, 107m). The top 3 highest current proposals outside London are in Manchester (188m, 179m, >175m)

Jerv well thats a load of Bull because Arena Central in Birmingham has been APPROVED at 240m :bash: and The Birmingham Needle is in its final designs and proposed for 900ft ...

Orion is now just shy of 100m, and yes Birmingham does have a good Skyline for European standards, Much better then Manchesters.

P.S Birmingham currently has the two tallest structures outside London in the BT tower which has 1 habital floor and HCT which is now 130m. Manchesters Beetham tower is under constrcution but isnt even 60m yet ...

Jerv well thats a load of Bull because Arena Central in Birmingham has been APPROVED at 240m :bash: and The Birmingham Needle is in its final designs and proposed for 900ft ...

Orion is now just shy of 100m, and yes Birmingham does have a good Skyline for European standards, Much better then Manchesters.

P.S Birmingham currently has the two tallest structures outside London in the BT tower which has 1 habital floor and HCT which is now 130m. Manchesters Beetham tower is under constrcution but isnt even 60m yet ...

Oh yes, I forgot AC. The one that was first proposed in 1999 and has been approved since 2000. This scheme will not get built at the approved designs. I will not argue about AC any further.

The birmingham needle? thats a building now is it?

Show me some evidence that Orion is 'just shy of 100m'.

Birmingham does not have the two tallest structues outside London. If you are including comms/observation towers as defined by emporis (of which BT is one), then Portsmouths Spinnaker Tower, Blackpool Tower and Emley Moor Tower are all taller.

I am well aware of the projects going on in Brum. When people make false claims to big up their city, it annoys me.

Habital Towers YES ...

The Birmingham Needle was always gonna be a building you plonker. It will be like the CN tower just smaller alot thinner, and way way cheaper.

AC has had change of developers, Ill put £5 on it going on recent news that it will start construction late 2005.

Well jerv considering it was 78m at 22 storeys I can quite safely say it will be closer to 100m then it will be to 85m ... thats another 7 storeys with a double floor penthouse, so literally 30 storeys. unless those extra floors are gonna be no more then 2m high each then I expect it to be just shy of 100m ...

Now ... lets do the maths 8 more floors at lets say Mimimum possible height 2m thats, 8x2 = 16 ... 16+78 = 94m ...

Those floors will be at least 3 metres each ... unless they're planning on selling them to dwarves.

In other words:
8x3 = 24 ... 24+78 = 102m approx.

Oh. Speculation. I thought so.
C'mon I'd like it to be 100m but it clearly isn't.

Habital Towers YES ...

The Birmingham Needle was always gonna be a building you plonker. It will be like the CN tower just smaller alot thinner, and way way cheaper.

AC has had change of developers, Ill put £5 on it going on recent news that it will start construction late 2005.

The birmingham needle is a building? You are annoying me now.
It is a man made structure yes. But it is a monument or a peice of art-not functional. Is a bridge cable tower a building? Is a power station cooling tower a building? How about a chimney?

I'll give you the fiver eitherway. Sounds like you'll need it being a bullshit artist and all.

Jerv, of course its a building, you have to build it dont you. What do you classify the CN tower as? thats classified as a building all though observational. Its still classified as one of the tallest structures in the world.

Jerv and its not specualtion Orion is 29 floors +1 (double penthouse) work it out. Are you Earlybird by chance. because all this squabble you talk to try and decieve people is very like his.

P.S how is the needle not functional.

It will have floors seperated by different heights all connected by lifts and stairways leading to platforms which will describe the history of Birmingham from Steam Trains to JR Tolkien. It will have a resturant, shops etc ... think about it :sleepy:

For fuck's sake stop the bickering, I can't even see my pictures anymore!!

For fuck's sake stop the bickering, I can't even see my pictures anymore!!

Good

They were shit anyway ;)

Good
They were shit anyway ;)
What??? Birmingham... oi don't u disrespect me bitch!! ;)

http://dunyaturk.com/tr29/wwwsercande_turkbalon.jpg
http://dunyaturk.com/tr29/wwwsercande_turkbalon1.jpg

More Barcelona skyline:
http://tinypic.com/21rmrk
:)
http://tinypic.com/21rmz6
;)
Pics by Meditt

Barcelonas skyline is rubbish ... sorry but its true

Barcelonas skyline is rubbish ... sorry but its true

It is just your opinion...
BTW you are very unpolite!
:(

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/116_16467.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/116_16468.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/116_16542.jpg

Warsaw in January '05 by michau
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050117_z_blekitnego/z_blekitnego_050117_3059.jpg

http://www.warsawtour.pl/files/foto_big19577567021091455665wn142_tapeta.jpg
http://www.warsawtour.pl/files/foto_big12643950091091519623182_tapeta.jpg

Beautiful skyline, Warsaw!
;)

Warsaw skyline rocks!!! :cheers:

GO EUROPE.

what about monaco
http://www.monaco.mc/monaco/icons/view3.jpeg
http://www.monaco.mc/monaco/icons/view1.jpeg

NAPLES- ITALY

http://tinypic.com/4t9f1z

wow Naples !!!!

Warsaw :) :cheers:

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050425_z_bloku_wilanowska/050425_wilanowska_7485_cl.jpg

http://photoenligne4.free.fr/Panoramique/Ffm_SkylineNight_3.jpg

Cool pics y'all :cheers:

Click to enlarge!
http://www.skyscrapercity.info/images/pano/3858.jpg (http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3858.jpg)

By Jan :cheers:

Birmingham, Only 1 not built or U/C in this picture is the Biggest One which is Arena Central although it has been approved and Construction should start at the end of 2005. Others are Photoshoped in, but Orion and HCT are reaching full height. :cheers:

http://www.worldcityphotos.org/UK/UK-ENG-Birmingham-skyscrapercitycomaug041.jpg

Birmingham West Side

http://tinypic.com/55nlw9

Birmingham 2000

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/708/490skyline.jpg

oh! naples! amazing skyline!!! :D

oh! naples! amazing skyline!!! :D

Hi, What is the tallest building in Naples? :cheers:

http://wowturkey.com/tr49/Kazandibi_memocan_camlicamanzara19www.jpg

http://wowturkey.com/tr49/Kazandibi_memocan_camlicamanzara19www.jpg

Istanbul??
:?

Warsaw

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050405_z_bloku_zzb3/050405_z_bloku_zzb3_5972_cl.jpg

Istanbul??
:?

Yep... That's the Bosphorus Bridge.

http://wowturkey.com/tr49/Kazandibi_memocan_camlicamanzara19www.jpg

A closer view:

http://wowturkey.com/tr49/Kazandibi_memocan_camlicamanzaramod.jpg

Connecting Europe and Asia, the First Bosphorus Bridge (1973) was the world's 4th longest (the longest outside USA) suspension bridge when completed

http://dunyaturk.com/tr47/ilhan_9646546544.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr34/Hakan88_1466831.jpg

Beautiful Istanbul...
:drool:
I am going there this year for holidays 1 week!
:happy:

Beautiful Istanbul...
:drool:
I am going there this year for holidays 1 week!
:happy:

Cool! Let us know when you come and we can have a beer or two. :cheers1:

WOWWW !


fantastic... magic... speechless...


http://photoenligne4.free.fr/Panoramique/Ffm_SkylineNight_3.jpg

all european skylines looks fantastic, but my favorite skyline is of course istanbul! :cheers:

TODAY:
Paris. La Défense
Frankfurt
London. City
Warsaw
Rotterdam
Istanbul
Barcelona
London CW
Milan
Birmingham
Bruxelles
Madrid
......


2010-2012
London City
Istanbul
Paris La Défense
Frankfurt
Warsaw
Madrid
Rotterdam
Milan
valencia
Barcelona
London CW
Birmingham
Bruxelles
Manchester
......

London
Paris
Frankfurt
Warsaw
Rotterdam

what boroughs?:dunno: now the european skylines are as follows
1. paris
2.frankfurt
3.london
4.warsaw
5.madrid
6.naples

:)
the one that I agree is ugly was built by Turks :runaway:


Reform Plaza

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/rp07.jpg
http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/turek1.JPG

It would fit Istanbul percfectly dont you think :)

Rondo1 one ot the finest skyscraper in Europe (U/C)

@michau

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050405_z_zzb/050405_z_zzb_5807.jpg

@maly

http://img226.echo.cx/img226/900/rondowhole8bu.jpg

:)
the one that I agree is ugly was built by Turks :runaway:


Reform Plaza

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/rp07.jpg
http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/turek1.JPG

It would fit Istanbul percfectly dont you think :)

Delphin if you had the money we had built this one in Warsaw instead of in Istanbul!

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/560/9alternat_f.jpg

top twenty EUROPEAN skyline

1.London
2.Paris
3.Warsaw
4.Frankfurt
5.Mediolan
6.Rotterdam
7.Moscow
8.Naples
9.Barcelona
10.Bruxell
11-20 others

:cheers:

Some of off-topic posts were deleted.

If ASIMOV keeps ruining this thread, he gets trouble.

1. Athens
2. Warsaw
3. Paris
4. Frankfurt
5. London
:D

I dunno, I reckon one of the finest scrapers U/C at the moment is HCT in Birmingham.

http://skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/153HollowayCircusTower_pic6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/jolon01/CopyofBirmingham24.jpg

http://tinypic.com/4lppbs

http://tinypic.com/4tlsf6

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/midgeblackandwhite/Picturefile337.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/midgeblackandwhite/Picturefile340.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Construction%202/HCTJune72005.jpg

pti ben posted these in the french forum. without any nationalism i can say its the best in europe (until those dam brits finish building theire 150210510 towers in london)


http://premium1.uploadit.org/ptitben//LD-vue-maladrerie.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/ptitben//LD-vue-Maladrerie-2.JPG

It seems like Moscow has the most tall skyscrapers u/c right now. But if London will build Bishopsgate Tower and London Bridge Tower the city will have a really impressive skyline.

1) Empress Istanbul & Empress London

2) The rest (who cares?)

Speaking about scrapers u/c don't forget Madrid with its
4 towers over 200 m.

http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/otobus.jpg

TURKEYPOO
1) San Istanbulisco
2) Ankareattle
3) Antalio de Janeiro
4) Sao Adano
5) Napolizmir

As I see few people don't have Benidorm in their top10, and I think it's the best, here you got some pics made by Toneo, where you can see the 40% of the skyline:
http://www.fotovalencia.com/cosetes/header_benidorm.jpg

http://img23.echo.cx/img23/7547/debeni014z0jz.jpg

http://img32.echo.cx/img32/9792/debeni015z6yk.jpg

http://img32.echo.cx/img32/4766/debeni017z9eb.jpg

more from benidorm :D
http://img170.echo.cx/img170/2057/cimg05506mc.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/victhor/versus/benlev-01t.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/victhor/versus/benidorm%200102.jpg

http://img210.exs.cx/img210/6158/benixxx5qp.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/efren28/100_2270.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/efren28/100_2273.jpg

http://tinypic.com/521hqb

benidorm looks like istanbul would look it it had way more skyscrapers

Benidorm looks like the Asian side of Istanbul

But only a small fraction of it

World skyline ranking

http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/sr/

16) Istanbul
24) London
25) Moscow
39) Paris
47) Benidorm
50) Frankfurt
64) Madrid
65) Glasgow
67) Ankara
72) Rotterdam
78) Milan
82) Berlin
85) Warsaw
86) Barcelona

It is not a skyline rating;)
It is points related to entered buildings. From such cities, like Moscow, San Paulo etc into database entered just few percents of all buildings.

http://img299.echo.cx/img299/9219/270zx.jpg

By bobdebouwer ;)

and an old picture from Holland Real Estate.

http://www.holland-re.com/files/buildings/loc_158_2_980x274.jpg

Tell the editors of Moscow to work harder then. ;)

Kein arbeiten, kein Heineken :nono:

Kerem and I could finish counting only a portion of Istanbul's highrises (we stopped counting a long time ago because it's a hopeless case to finish them all) but at least we tried to do our best for some time.

Nowadays we only add really big projects (30 floors or more) and ignore the minor ones (less than 20 floors)

and what about the 21-29 ones?

and as for Benidorm... sorry, but that is AWFUL. Butt ugly

I like Benidorm. Very impressive. Skyline-wise it's one of the best in Europe. It's just no big city, that's why I don't really admire it.

... and Rotterdam is a big city?

Where did I say that? And yeah, Rotterdam is a big city compared to Benidorm. Benidorm is busy and big during summers and the opposite during winters I guess. I'd never want to live in such a place.

Where did I say that? And yeah, Rotterdam is a big city compared to Benidorm. Benidorm is busy and big during summers and the opposite during winters I guess. I'd never want to live in such a place.

Benidorm has got more than 500000 inhabitants in Summer, 65000 in Winter!!
:D
Beaches are wonderful and the weather is always good.
;)
But I am not going to talk about the quality or beauty of its skyscrapers...
:runaway:

World skyline ranking

http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/sr/

16) Istanbul
24) London
25) Moscow
39) Paris
47) Benidorm
50) Frankfurt
64) Madrid
65) Glasgow
67) Ankara
72) Rotterdam
78) Milan
82) Berlin
85) Warsaw
86) Barcelona

I don't like the Benidorm skyline nor Istambul. Franfurt, Roterdam or Warsaw have much more beautifull skyline and it coudn't be shown by any points, aspecialy if that points only numet of hight buildings but doesn't show how dence the skyline is, and the level of their architecture.

http://groundy.webd.pl/warszawa/Nowe/panorama29.jpg
http://sloneczny-stok.waw.pl/zdjecia/wysokosciowiec/IMG_0049.JPG
http://plfoto.com/zdjecia/679137.jpg

Brussels

Pic from "Michiel"
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6843/panovanafdearcaden9ha.jpg
By night
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7288/bruxelles2203md.jpg

Pic by "Giergel"
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8776/brusselnoord7ml.jpg
The building on the left, the TBR tower, will be renovated and renamed. It will become 136m and the new name will be "Brusselstower"


I believe that the skyline of Brussels is better than many other European cities. And it will only become better.

ISTANBUL :master:

http://www.fotokritik.com/photos/orig/335/8e5be0a944110f6fd9e69da2b4d49074.jpg

http://wowturkey.com/tr56/can_a_P72600401i.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/08/292100.jpg

:baaa:

:lol:

Istanbul overall, is very different than Benidorm. Istanbul has ancient domes , towers , plus glass covered skyscrapers , not the concrete look like Benidorm.

...

Birmingham In a few years - quite a few missing including a new 130m tower but will look taller then all of these, because its on a hill :hahaha:


http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://tinypic.com/cotx0

Birmingham In a few years - quite a few missing including a new 130m tower but will look taller then all of these, because its on a hill :hahaha:


http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://tinypic.com/cotx0

Very beatiful photo...
:drool: :drool:

Rotterdam!

http://www.kvb-p.com/images/Rotterdam/DSCF1071.JPG
http://www.kvb-p.com/images/Rotterdam/DSCF1706.jpg
http://www.kvb-p.com/images/Rotterdam/1/DSCF1721.jpg
http://www.kvb-p.com/images/Rotterdam/1/DSCF1726.jpg

pix from me :)

And here a amazing picture bij Rotterdam Highrise :runaway:
http://home.planet.nl/~stee8329/forum/vliegen/1.jpg

In the future. By CborG
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8726/skyline27wf.jpg

Rotterdam has the density.. but the designs are rather bland

One of Birminghams gateways into the city - although what you see isnt even the main city ;) - on this road a new 18 storey and 27 storey residential buildings are planned. Its Birmingham City Councils views to make the gateways into Birmingham quite dense although, gradually build up in height to the city centre. so if 27 storeys are gonna be on the outskirts you can imagine the future plans they have.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/djguinness/minaret-Views_Belgrave_Middleway.jpg

With the 2 towers (27 storey on the right, curved blue glass structure, and Belgrave just behind the other residential tower)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/woodhousen/bristolgate.jpg

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m88.jpg[/img]
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/m622.jpg

Good lord, do all Austrians have such small dicks? :wink2:

Birmingham

http://www.puffins-brixham.velnet.co.uk/nick/bast.jpg

http://wowturkey.com/tr60/k_Yusuf_istanbulbogaz200501.jpg
(+) (http://www.worldturkey.com/web/istanbulbogazbuyuk.jpg)


http://wowturkey.com/tr60/k_Yusuf_istanbulcamlica.jpg
(+) (http://www.worldturkey.com/web/istanbulcamlicabuyuk.jpg)



http://wowturkey.com/tr60/k_Burc_mecidiyekoyden_0395.jpg
(+) (http://wowturkey.com/tr60/Burc_mecidiyekoyden_0395.jpg)

1-istanbul
2-frankfurt
3-london
4-paris
5-benidorm

6-20 : who cares !

Warsaw is definitelly in European Top5 ;)

(pics by michau)

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050826_z_bloku_bruna6/050826_z_bloku_bruna6_5152.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050826_z_bloku_bruna4a/050826_z_bloku_bruna4a_5168.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050822_z_bloku_odolanska/050822_z_bloku_odolanska_4604.jpg

Istanbul sucks in the above pics :D

Some of the worst skyline shots of the city that I've ever seen

http://wowturkey.com/tr56/can_a_P72600401i.jpg

:)
the one that I agree is ugly was built by Turks :runaway:
Reform Plaza
It would fit Istanbul percfectly dont you think :)

Kurwa delfin czy Ty wszędzie musisz robić sobie wrogów.

Istanbul have very nice skyline in my opinion. Definitively Europe's top 10.

http://wowturkey.com/tr60/Yusuf_beykozdanlevent2005.jpg

Originally Posted by delfin_pl

the one that I agree is ugly was built by Turks
Reform Plaza
It would fit Istanbul percfectly dont you think

Okay my dear Delphin_pl this building called Reform Plaza was built by turks:
http://www-users.mat.uni.torun.pl/~kombo/zdjecia/plaza.jpg



But let's have a look on some of Warsaw's TOP 20 buildings:

Was the FIM tower built by turks:
http://www.eljako-al.pl/zdj/big/6.JPG

Was Lucka City built by turks?
http://www.jwconstruction.com.pl/gfx/pictures/zrealizowane/lucka_city.jpg

PZU tower was also not built by turks,ight?
http://www.pzutower.pl/img/fot1.jpg

Blue Tower isn't our masterpiece,is it?
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4504/aaabluetower4kg.jpg


Babak Tower turkish?Noooo!
http://www.yawal.pl/upload/Babka_Tower.jpg

Westin maybe?No definitly not!
http://www.portmanusa.com/hotel/imgs/warsaw_westin01.jpg


Alpha?? It's blue enough but is it turkish?
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8520/alpha8uj.jpg

Ulica Zgoda turkish?We don't build commies as skyscrapers!
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4506/aaindesit3ev.jpg

Ulica Świętokrzyska 35 turkish?Nope it's not blue enough
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8784/abbaaa9al.jpg

Warta Tower?You can't sell me this blue box as turkish ;)
http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/7898/awarta6nv.jpg

A couple new 30 storey towers proposed for Birminghams redevlopment of its main train station, how they would fit in wiht our second cluster in the westside

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/woodhousen/newst.jpg

It may not be a jungle of Skyscrapers or overbearingly canyon like, but there is no doubt that once the next stage of building is over London will have one of the most recognisable high-rise skylines anywhere. As if Westminster, Big Ben, Tower Bridge, St. Paul's, and Swiss Re were not recognisable today....


This render includes the two 1000 footers London Bridge Tower and The Bishopsgate Tower.



http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/tijjan/Thewholecity.jpg

New skyline-picture of Rotterdam, made by Hoogbouw010:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/bvdscheur/Steden/skylinerotterdam2005pano.jpg

Rotterdam is still competing!

Okay my dear Delphin_pl this building called Reform Plaza was built by turks

But let's have a look on some of Warsaw's TOP 20 buildings:


PZU tower was also not built by turks,ight?
http://www.pzutower.pl/img/fot1.jpg


Alpha?? It's blue enough but is it turkish?
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8520/alpha8uj.jpg


Some facts:
-that's not PZU tower (on the first pic)

-"Alpha" (well I'm not sure about this name) is turkish > original concept by Vahap Toy from Epit (Reform Plaza/ Millenium Plaza architect) stollen from him (that's his version) by the other turkish architect. and next thing is that co-owner is Sabri Bekdas.

A list of known scrapers that should be build in strict center of Warsaw up to 2010.
http://mitglied.lycos.de/hotttt/plan.jpg

my nr. 1

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8676/levent24xd.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9426/levent99bn.jpg

and nr. 2

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4555/maslak75xs.jpg

http://wowturkey.com/tr46/okhan_de_lan_P1010426.jpg

Manchester
http://www.giftybles.com/ManchesterSkyline.gif
This is an Old Picture without Beetham Tower.
Manchester has lots of approved skyscrapers even taller than beetham. The skyline will be second to london in the UK.

Paris
London
Warsaw
Franfurt
Istanbul

The rest are not real skylines.

Bull shit. If you consider Warsaw a skyline, then Rotterdam certainly has one too. And Warsaw above Frankfurt, come on!

Rotterdam has a lot of highrises, but they don't resemble skyscrapers to me. And yes, I think Warsaw has better skyline than Frankfurt already, however with every year this will become more and more clear.

1.frankfurt
2.London
3.paris
4.warsaw
5.Istambul

Bull shit. If you consider Warsaw a skyline, then Rotterdam certainly has one too.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/hotttt/skyw.jpg

^^^
this is a SKYLINE :D
IMO even one of the best in Europe

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050905_z_bloku_blatowa/050905_z_bloku_blatowa_4385_cl.jpg

For me :

1.Frrankfurt
.
.
.
.
2.Paris
3.Warsaw and Istanbul
4.London !!!!
5.Rotterdam , Madrit , Vienna

For me :

1.Frrankfurt
.
.
.
.
2.Paris
3.Warsaw and Istanbul
4.London !!!!
5.Rotterdam , Madrit , Vienna
I agree. But maybe London on 3rd place as well.

ISTAN YORK CITY

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6445/gayretepe17lx.jpg

http://wowturkey.com/tr56/can_a_P72600401i.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/08/292100.jpg

DP

Rotterdam

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/bvdscheur/Steden/skylinerotterdam2005pano.jpg
Picture by Hoogbouw010 and edited by Bass

ISTAN YORK CITY

Istan? not bad ;)
http://www.andalucia.com/province/images/3490_36.jpg
http://www.andalucia.com/province/malaga/istan/home.htm

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5225/view36cruise9yy.jpg

Puur from the Holland Hoogbouw Forum made this excellent picture...

http://207.44.228.232/images/SSC/upc20053601.jpg

Made by Jan! Just a fabulous picture!

rotterdam is starting to get a skyline. rotterdam looks awesome. needs some tall and some more density and it will be like new york. looks like new york.


glasgow

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Get13/GH_1_1lg.gif

That is a very nice picture of Glasgow! Especially because of the damp... another one of Rotterdam here:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8572/monti5bs.jpg

Picture made by: Kees

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/35730/429103/0/Athens+-+From+Pendeli+-+5+-+May+2005-+small800x.jpg


Now, don't laugh or I will not post anything in here :lol:

A city that built all its highrises from 1969 to 1980. A city that needs them and God knows when it's gonna see them again, although it is probably one of a handful of conurbations that despite its size, many say it is beautiful without them.

OK here it comes... Athens

Classic view of the charm of flatness with the Acropolis at some 150m height


http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/35730/429105/0/Athens+skyline+with+Acropolis+From+Lucabetus+-+small800x.jpg


The Acropolis and some Athenian highrises, all in one shot

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/35730/429107/0/Athens+Skyline+from+Profitis+Ilias+1-blasphemous+detail-small800


View of Athenian highrises from the Lycabettus hill (270m)

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/35730/429109/0/Athens+-+View+From+Lycabettus+-+May+2005-small800xb.jpg


Athens Skyline detail from mount Hymettus. The building to the left is Athens Tower (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=110579), our tallest and most decent.

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/354984/0/Athens+-+From+Hymettus.jpg


Athens skyline with the city's tallest from the top of the Athens Hilton hotel

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/35730/429120/0/Athens+-+Highrise+Skyline+View+from+Hilton+2+-Focus-+small+800x


Residential highrises in Athenian suburbia, all built before 1978

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/35730/429137/0/Athens+-+Holargos+-+P+Psychico+3+-+Aug+-+2004+-+small800x.jpg


The Olympic stadium and the Greek Telecom (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=148981) (1978) offices building. The Arches of the stadium, measuring some 300m in span length and 80m in height are the newest addition in the Athenian skyline after over 20 years of inactivity...

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/334269/0/OAKA+-+From+Tourkovounia+-+3+-+OAKA.jpg

Last but not least: A very nice view of the few, the proud and the not-so-great (all of them being there since the late 1970's) D: Athens skyline (whatever...) from the mount of Penteli, norh-northeast of Athens...


http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/35730/429118/0/Athens+-+From+Pendeli+-+6+-May+05-small800x.jpg
Please note that most of these pictures were taken with a large zoom factor so as to distort reality. Athens continues to be flat...

...and two of my favourite night skyline pictures: No comparison but I like them both

Istanbul Levent, probably from the metrocity looking towards the IsBankasi complex. I am not sure if anybody postede this one in one of the previous pages but I believe that it deserves some publicity...

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22634/36693/475709/0/Istanbul+Levent+19-From+Metrocity+Night.jpg


Athens Tower and Lyvabettus hill from a rooftop of the old and concrete district of Goudi, where however, you can get the best shots of the few Athenian highrises of the nearby district of Ampelokipi...

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22634/35743/475127/0/Athens+Tower+and+Lycabettus.jpg

Also, add this to the above collection for Athens: The Athens Olympic Complex in the northern suburbs as seen from the Philothei Hills/ Attikon Alsos area:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22632/24691/334267/0/OAKA+-+From+Tourkovounia+-+1.jpg

Vienna:

http://img-x.******************/40/2469640.jpg

http://www.twinpark.at/images/start.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/T-mobil_center_wien.jpg/800px-T-mobil_center_wien.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Millennium_Tower_bei_S-Bahn_Station.jpg/450px-Millennium_Tower_bei_S-Bahn_Station.jpg

http://www.foto-julius.at/wien/W680+.jpg

http://www.foto-julius.at/wien/W31+.jpg

http://www.foto-julius.at/wien1/W1258+.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/735/1279148_4899.jpg

http://www.foto-julius.at/wien1/W1254+.jpg

I was very disappointed in Vienna.

Hoping to find Austria Felix, but it wasn't there.

Sooooooooooo boring.

Life ends at 8:30 pm ( if you can call it "life" )

Places of less boredom: Die Tunnel, Bermuda Triangle, Schwedenplatz, Rathausplatz, Votiv Park area.

But they are also pretty boring, I must say.

La Défense


http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/newsite/photos/t1007.jpg

Warsaw skyline
http://static.flickr.com/26/48657759_8d0dd02fee_o.jpg

with proposed Libeskind Tower (pics from polish forum)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/muszynianka/Capture2.jpg
http://www.kionlab.com/varia/lib.jpg
http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/temp/44a.jpg

She's got the look ;)

I must say I like the Warsaw upcoming skyline.

Heres another Birmingham shot from the UK, long way to go but they are gradually starting to build taller. Plans have just been submitted for a new 137m skyscraper on broad street with Birminghams first skyscraper helipad as it's situated in Broad Street the citys entertainment district. another 150m skyscraper is planned a few blocks down aswell ... new 30+ storey towers have alos been rumoured at the cities train station and twin 120m towers have also been rumoured next to Birminghams tallest structure the 152m BT Tower. the 122m HCT Tower to the far right of this picture situated inbetween the two 90m sentinels is nearing completion and will house the new 5* star radisson hotel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%204/BartleySkyline4.jpg

Manchester, UK!

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool2/84/29/07/80/3A/5A/11/DA/A7/B7/E6/71/54/2D/D3/F5/10/AF0E84103A5B11DAA2713570542DD3F5.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool2/84/29/07/80/3A/5A/11/DA/A7/B7/E6/71/54/2D/D3/F5/10/B20751B03A5B11DAA2AC1967542DD3F5.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool2/84/29/07/80/3A/5A/11/DA/A7/B7/E6/71/54/2D/D3/F5/10/C33F95503A5B11DAA91E51EE542DD3F5.jpg

http://www.magix-photos.com/mediapool2/84/29/07/80/3A/5A/11/DA/A7/B7/E6/71/54/2D/D3/F5/10/C62529103A5B11DABD474718542DD3F5.jpg

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man023.jpg

WooW, the picture here above is very stuning!!!

True, looks like there's some serious activity going on in Manchester... :)

And they say we europeans don´t have great skylines! :)

1.Paris
2.Frankfurt
3.London(London would be first if all the scrapers would be in one cluster)
4.Warsaw
5.Rotterdam

Future:
1.London
2.Paris
3.Frankfurt/Warsaw
4.Rotterdam/Manchester
5.Birmingham/Naples


Warsaw have very long and wide streets and i think that´s positive because in the future when more scrapers will go upthere will be skyscraper canyons and that´s great! I don´t think that´s possible in any other european city...

I don't know which one is the best right now but the future belongs to Istanbul and Moscow and Warsaw will be the best of the rest.

Of course Frankfurt :) Why?

http://www.fvgffm.de/graphics/logopanpreis.jpg

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/1503/39921871uq.jpg

© www.fvgffm.de

Visit www.fvgffm.de for new Airials of 2004 (90 Pics) and 2005 ( until now 47 Pics, 300 more to come in the next weeks---->
http://www.fvgffm.de/luftbilder/2005.html

1) There are proposals of adding a spire on the 94-floor office block, bringing the total structural height to around 400 m

2) The 94-floor office tower and the 74-floor hotel/residential tower are rising above a multi-storey retail facility (i.e. there are more floors above ground)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/warsword/Haldun34_memocan_bogaz018.jpg

http://www.ticketsgalore.com/nba/newyorkpic1.jpg

1) Frankfurt
2) Paris
3) Rotterdam
4) Warsaw
5) Istambul
6) London

Frankfurt rulez

http://img2.uploadimages.net/66999110.jpg

http://img-a.******************/ram/new/4368056.jpg

all these pics....ooow :) hehhe

http://www.hohpe.com/Gregor/Travel/2000/Frankfurt/Downtown/DeutscheBank.jpg


http://www.ftd.de/asset/Image/Migration/2004/deutsche_bank_fm.jpg

Brum 2010?

http://tinypic.com/fu5i6t.jpg

1 Frankfurt
2 Rotterdam
3 Paris
4 Warsaw
5 London

future of Warsaw :) :) :cheers: :cheers:


http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/foto/wawa2a.jpg

very nice but only vision;)

very nice but only vision;)

Nice vision yes...
here a VISION of Frankfurt(2010-2012 i think),wich is not bad too^__-
http://hometown.aol.de/RadioD3/FRANKFURT2010.jpg

i think warsaw has no skyline and it's also very ugly
just my opinion

i think warsaw has no skyline and it's also very ugly
just my opinion

yapp--because of the EU there are a little boom maybe..but it wont takes a lot of time
and other Cities in the EU will grow too..so its equalXD

Right now:
Paris,Frankfurt,Istanbul,Warsaw,London

future:
Moscow,Istanbul,London,Warsaw

i think warsaw has no skyline and it's also very ugly
just my opinion
Maybe it's not perfect and there are many things to fix up in Warsaw but taking into consideration it's history (WW2, Germans, Russians), I must say it's realy nice and still developing. I like it very much but imagine how would it look like if these terriblle things hadn't take place. Saying that it's "ugly" is not fair and not true...

yapp--because of the EU there are a little boom maybe..but it wont takes a lot of time
and other Cities in the EU will grow too..so its equalXD

Entering the EU made this growth faster for sure but i think it's not the only reason of boom (it started few yaers earlier). Probably the development will be the bigest in next few years but Warsaw grows up faster not only than the other central and east europe cities but also faster than many in the west. You had 60 years to build your cities' skylines. We started 20 years ago.

by the way : www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187906

Cool pics :) here are two new of downtown Rotterdam

http://www.m-nuijten.speedlinq.nl/images/100_0699.jpg
By Hoge Erf D

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8391/panorivier18kg.jpg

By Keezy

1) Frankfurt

Frankfurt rulez

http://img2.uploadimages.net/66999110.jpg



Nice one! Even the Radisson is visible!

i think warsaw has no skyline and it's also very ugly
just my opinion

:nono: :weird: :weird: :weird: no skyline ??? are You an idiot ? :bash:

as for european standards the Warsaw skyline is excellent :baeh3: :yes:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/717/rondo1rondpl7ik.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/9475/zwawskyline23vz.jpg
http://groundy.webd.pl/warszawa/Nowe/panorama29.jpg

by @SoboleuS :

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/6889/intraco60da.jpg

by @sojuz :

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/2944/skyline87qa.jpg

by @Leshchoo :

http://www.albumtown.com/data/78e3b5ca79e1d3688b73c13540b5c261/39800_p539738.jpg
http://www.albumtown.com/data/78e3b5ca79e1d3688b73c13540b5c261/39800_p539748.jpg

by @michau :

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050707_spotkanie_forumowiczow/050707_forumowicze_1425.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050905_z_bloku_blatowa/050905_z_bloku_blatowa_4385_cl.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050905_z_bloku_widawska/050905_z_bloku_widawska_4453.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050907_zdobywanie_centrum/050907_panorama_nowogrodzka_400.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050907_zdobywanie_centrum/050907_zdobywanie_centrum_4532.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050907_zdobywanie_centrum/050907_zdobywanie_centrum_4564.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050822_z_bloku_odolanska/050822_z_bloku_odolanska_4604.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050822_z_bloku_odolanska/050822_z_bloku_odolanska_4604_cl.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050826_z_bloku_bruna4a/050826_z_bloku_bruna4a_5168.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050826_z_bloku_bruna4a/050826_z_bloku_bruna4a_5170.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050902_z_bloku_smocza16/050902_z_bloku_smocza16_4165.jpg

nothing specially at all...

Guys, how about Kyiv, Ukraine. I will try to get some renderings that are ******.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/3_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/1_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/2_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/4_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/5_large.jpg

:nocrook:


This skyline is postmarked approximately 2010.

thats reality in Frankfurt right now:
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,534227,00.jpg

Guys, how about Kyiv, Ukraine. I will try to get some renderings that are ******.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/3_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/1_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/2_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/4_large.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/5_large.jpg

:nocrook:


This skyline is postmarked approximately 2010.

aaall...right....^___-

aaall...right....^___-

I'm not joking, the President fully supports this project. The interesting thing is that it was the investors looking for this project, and it's going to be built. The first stage of completion is, I believe, 2008.

1) There are proposals of adding a spire on the 94-floor office block, bringing the total structural height to around 400 m

2) The 94-floor office tower and the 74-floor hotel/residential tower are rising above a multi-storey retail facility (i.e. there are more floors above ground)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/warsword/Haldun34_memocan_bogaz018.jpg

http://www.ticketsgalore.com/nba/newyorkpic1.jpg

Not particullarly impressed... there are 2 great towers, but they are not even built yet. The rest arent good. And dont bother showing me pics of the diamond either, ive seen it and dont like it...

Go Europe :)

Frankfurt number 1

Rotterdam number 2 :)

Frankfurt today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/Fuschimuschi/Frankfurt.jpg

This thread now: LOCKED for further reading (tomorow morning, it's late now).

Ok, I cleaned the thread, it's the second time I do. Next time I'll simply lock and trash it, no matters how much it worth.

2 PMs are being sent.

One more from Frankfurt:
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/6772/23097040xg.jpg

some more Frankfurt:
http://db2.*****************/78/2846578.jpg
http://www.fotos.geschichtsthemen.de/frankfurt-fotos/Ffm001a.jpg

^ Very very nice :)
Europe´s Number 1

One more from Frankfurt:
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/6772/23097040xg.jpg

wow...absolutly the best skyline-pic of Frankfurt i´ve ever seen!

what is this blue,green buildings there?Looks so cool!

what is this blue,green buildings there?Looks so cool!

Thats the IBC building. They used this colours to attrtact tenants. Actualy a plain office building.

http://www.mercedes500.de/sonstiges/pics/frankfurt/DSCF1708_800.jpg
http://www.thehighrisepages.de/hhkartei/ffmdbibc.jpg
http://db1.*****************/neu/pic/67/2125467.jpg

Right now:
Paris,Frankfurt,Istanbul,Warsaw,London

future:
Moscow,Istanbul,London,Warsaw

Moscow made a good sprint, but I think Istanbul will prove to be the ultimate marathon runner in the end.

The projects currently UC in Istanbul and will be completed in 2008-2009:

A 94-floor tower (plus mall floors), a 74-floor tower (plus mall floors), a 61-floor tower, a 55-floor tower, a 48-floor tower, a 42-floor tower,...........

It's so funny that you keep repeating that Istanbul is and will be the best city on earth. I mean, I think that everybody after 2 years gets the point.

Istanbul is definitely a wonderful city, and the skyscraper clusters are very nice. Keep us updated on the beautiful projects but make it a little bit less chauvinist, please.

Moscow made a good sprint, but I think Istanbul will prove to be the ultimate marathon runner in the end.

The projects currently UC in Istanbul and will be completed in 2008-2009:

A 94-floor tower (plus mall floors), a 74-floor tower (plus mall floors), a 61-floor tower, a 55-floor tower, a 48-floor tower, a 42-floor tower,...........

well well

projects in moscow u/c that will be completed until 2009 40fl+.

FederationTower tower A/C (IBC): 432m 88f
City Hall and City Duma block 1 (IBC): 307m 70f
City Hall and City Duma block 2 (IBC): 307m 70f
City Hall and City Duma block 3 (IBC): 307m 70f
City Hall and City Duma block 4 (IBC): 307m 70f
Parcel 12 (IBC): 305m 75f (67f?)
City of Capitals: Moscow (IBC): 268m 72f
Naberezhnaya Tower C (IBC): 252m 56f
FederationTower tower B (IBC): 242m 59f
City of Capitals: Saint Petersburg (IBC): 235m 62f
Vertical (NRM): about 190m 50f+
Continental (NRM): about 180-190m 48-53f
Avenue, 77 block 1 (1): about 45f
Avenue, 77 block 2 section 2: about 45f
Avenue, 77 block 2 section 3: about 45f
Avenue, 77 block 2 section 4: about 45f
Avenue, 77 block 2 section 5: about 45f
Avenue, 77 block 3 (6): about 45f
Northern Park block A: 40f


and will start soon with high probability to be built until 2009

IBC 18 (IBC): 398m 80f (2006 - 2009)
IBC 17 (IBC): 353m 78f (2006 - 2009)
Moscow City Transport Terminal tower 3: 159m 40f (2006 - 2007)
Yaroslavskoye highway, demesnes 121-123: 50-55f (NRM program 1st phase until 2010)
we know information about one of 8 administrative districts of moscow for NRM program where planned buildingd for this program. so at least one planed until 2010 over 40fl. possibly at least 5.

there is also dozen of projects, but with less information so this minimum list.

^^

yes, moscow will blow out the others
but is there a possibility to enlarge the cluster in some years?

what do you mean?